gameplay-discussion

[zenith knoll]

not sure about that, i got the location name immediately upon reaching the dungeon for the first time back when p14 dropped, no mote needed

[knotty moon]

🤔
Uh, guess that bugged out in H1 then, only got it with the first mote.

[tepid chasm]

are we sure this refers to the pensives set and not the wazzard set?

[knotty moon]

Uh, just got a second mote from the same room where I got the first, backtracking after the Wyrm is definitely something I would recommend.

[zenith knoll]

Only a sagely scholar, a pensive sort, could decipher what purpose this tower once served. Perhaps you ought don your cloak...

[tepid chasm]

ah

makes sense then

[zenith knoll]

and then you have the item named Pensive's Cloak

[knotty moon]

If it is the Wazzard's it is quite the bait and switch.

[wet tulip]

k second run found 1 moth in the first big room. for run 3 i will try to not relog and see if i get a moth or not

[tepid chasm]

also is the recall memory button supposed to do something? For me it just causes the game to flash white in the brackground of the journal.

[fresh forge]

I just noticed that lots of people are playing the game, how can i join them?

[zenith knoll]

i think it's bugged at present

[tepid chasm]

makes sense

[zenith knoll]

it still does nothing even with all entries unlocked

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message
Next stream is tomorrow, time on the events, remember to link the account.

[vagrant kayak]

Following up, videos from before the NDA lifted are still under NDA so you aren't allowed to post them I'm afraid

[knotty moon]

Really?
Why?

[sly escarp]

Content from the period in which the NDA was in effect are still under that NDA.

[zenith knoll]

aw

[knotty moon]

Uh.

[wet tulip]

lol did a third run ( without relogging after second run) 0 moths xD

now ill relog before Run 4

and if i get a moth on run 4 most likely relogging is needed xD

[calm crown]

without the joinery perks, I'm struggling to wrap my head around best-use of the joineries.

[wet tulip]

like its over world moths

[sly escarp]

Used to help get weapons to suit the build you want them for.

[calm crown]

With this weapon and these virtues, what would I choose for a joinery?

[sly escarp]

Want to use Purity on a Courage/Grace build? Throw on a Thrice Blessed by Saphene

[calm crown]

cuz twice blessed mora, thrice blessed mora cap at the same damage, it looks like

[wet tulip]

imo grace

[fallow arch]

is there a setting that would make motes more visible?

[knotty moon]

3x Blessed Mora.

[calm crown]

what does the thrice blessed add? cuz in the preview window at Tuvelkane 2x and 3x look the same

[sly escarp]

Thrice blessed by mora will get you to the minimum number of Courage points needed to hit scaling cap

[zenith knoll]

i'd slap mora as well

[vagrant kayak]

Don't slap Mora Fenn will kill you

[sly escarp]

Just means you don't need as much Courage to hit the cap, that's all adding pips does in most cases

[zenith knoll]

sorry, slap mora on that. my bad

[wet tulip]

and id slap a grace to make it flexible in any build since you will reach dmg cap anyways

[calm crown]

and in this case, I like the high courage for better life and better uptime on bestone

[fallow arch]

second run no relog, aint found shit

[wet tulip]

yup relog is needed xD

[calm crown]

so reducing the courage requirement doesn't really get me anything unless i want to use the weapon on a more hybrid build, right?

[sly escarp]

Could opt to not Bless it at all if you're already hitting scaling cap

[wet tulip]

yea with your current courage you hit dmg cap anyways. so putting a grace is more logical if you would ever want to use this outside of courage build

[sly escarp]

All Blessing a weapon does it make it easier to cap, either by making your scaling per point stronger or adding another Virtue it can scale off of.

[calm crown]

and regardless of which blessing, there's a hard damage cap, yeah?

[wet tulip]

yup

[calm crown]

hm.

[sly escarp]

Yes, there's a hard scaling cap on damage

[wet tulip]

which you reach with your current courage without any blessings

[uneven pond]

does anyone having any good spellcaster cogah builds?

[calm crown]

if I use it on a non-courage build, 3x mora might be best then, yeah?

[fallow arch]

reee

[calm crown]

it seems that adding 1 pip of courage gets me to the cap

[sly escarp]

One sec, wanna check something

[wet tulip]

nope since then with less courage you get low attunment anyways

hence why having all 3 virtues is better for any hybrid build

• grace virtue scales better then spirit and courage

[sly escarp]

Base damage is 39...meaning scaling cap is +58.5 damage...assuming a Blessed by Mora...would mean at minimum you need 24 Courage to cap

So twice your requirement

Could work for Hybrid builds if you did that, but it means 24 would always be locked up in Courage.

[wet tulip]

if it will have grace attunment too its auto lowers courage cost

[upper osprey]

day 2 trying to find the sword to refight mestra and.. failed , north and south nothing

[sly escarp]

If you did it as Grace, you'd need 12 Courage for the req, then only 26 Grace to cap outside of that.

@wet tulip Just doing the math

[wet tulip]

and + theres spirit too

just saying having all 3 virtues help each other for lower cost

[calm crown]

and now no difference between verite and gildaur?

[wet tulip]

instead of having only 1 strong attunement and 1 weak attunement

[calm crown]

so I should just do 2x grace?

[wet tulip]

x3 grace

[sly escarp]

True. Assuming 8 (2 base + 6 pact)...22 Grace to cap

[wet tulip]

since you can use only 1 joinery its always best to use the x3

[sly escarp]

Unless doing so would put you over 5 in a virtue

[wet tulip]

this too

[tepid chasm]

it's unneccesary a lot of the time because you an atm only get up to 5 of any given virtue

[sly escarp]

If you want to bless Purity with Mora, use a twice blessed

[tacit leaf]

Chat, why arena is not spawning on Andurin?

[sly escarp]

Low chance

[calm crown]

it's random

[wet tulip]

the weapon is a 2 pip courage 2 pip spirit im talking about adding x3 grace

[tacit leaf]

is there another way to farm mr fast?

[wet tulip]

so its flexible with any build

instead of locking it up for courage only

[sly escarp]

Mr or weapon levels?

[tacit leaf]

weapon

[calm crown]

that's what I'm looking at doing

[sly escarp]

Cogah and NE tales

[tepid chasm]

Also, on the Rovgot motes. Just did a relog with pensive set and ran through it, found 2 but I needed to barcktrack from the Wyrm kill and then run back through te whole dungeon to the boss room, and only on this trip back to the end did they spawn

[calm crown]

cuz I've already got Oryn-Umbr as full courage

[wet tulip]

yes it takes time to spawn

[fallow arch]

huh

I was running the dungeon backwards

[tepid chasm]

yeah I just saw some people say backtracking to the start is enough, just wanted to add that it can take enough time that you need to basically run the whole length 3 times to get it

[wet tulip]

4th run after a relog found moth second room

make that 2 moths same room

[calm crown]

Thanks for the advice on the reforge. and truly no difference between verite and gildaur now?

[zenith knoll]

presumably none

for now

[sly escarp]

Gildaur can be applied to any, that's it

[wet tulip]

gildaur is like a joker joinery you can use on any grip type

so yea

4 runs (5 moths found) 1 run was wasted without a relog

[fallow arch]

yea a bit of my issues may stem that I was running the dungeon ass backwards

[wet tulip]

what im doing is simply entering

going clearing it all

killing boss and look for moths on my way back to the entrance

[fallow arch]

yeah but I was entering boss room first lol

[zenith knoll]

did you find any motes yet?

[wet tulip]

and exit though the entrance and then relog

[fallow arch]

1

[zenith knoll]

wait what

you can do that??

[fallow arch]

ye

[wet tulip]

wait how does that work x?

[fallow arch]

you can just sorta spam the boss like that

[wet tulip]

did you enter from the exit ?

[fallow arch]

just go in the exit

[zenith knoll]

wtf

[wet tulip]

weird when i tried the door didnt open xD

[fallow arch]

yes lol I've been doing that this whole time

it kinda bugs letting you in though

[wet tulip]

unless you reenter after you just cleared it

[fallow arch]

you have to stand in the center of the exit for it to open

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ yea weird xD

i simply go to the main entry

[fallow arch]

this explains why the boss was the first room and enemies spawned in hallways behind me

[wet tulip]

since the moths seem to be more likely to spawn with a room with no enemies

[fallow arch]

I thought it was the entrance lol...

[wet tulip]

how xD

if the marker is clearly shown while the exit not xD

[fallow arch]

also all the enemies spawned as level 1 or 2

[zenith knoll]

that's very funny actually

[wet tulip]

yea lol

[fallow arch]

I just thought this shit was incredibly buggy

[wet tulip]

kk heading on my run number 5

[fallow arch]

I mean... it is but only because I was driving the car backwards essentially

[wet tulip]

this seem very promising with the pensive armor

[fallow arch]

I'd probably say dont do what I was doing, given how buggy it was

[wet tulip]

run 5 first room xD

[river elk]

these in the new journal thing? Only thing is that it wants me to do stuff over again so i did not accept the first one.

[wet tulip]

its the new added location with moths

[river elk]

with motes, but seen moths a lot in here for some reason. I will look at it.

[wet tulip]

the big talk about these moths is because before the last hotfix it was super rare

and even after the last hotfix i did runs without a pensive armor equipped and found nothing too

and since i equipped the pensive armor they spawn like candy

[misty ingot]

Is anyone stuck at the part where you need to "Pull phantom sword from the shipwreck's hull"? I searched the entire circle that the map marks but I see no sword or anything

[dark zephyr]

I take there's no swimming update yet?

[wet tulip]

so @zenith knoll's theory seems right

[fallow arch]

not yet, think thats along with vaulting and mounts

I got 2 on this run

[dark zephyr]

Because I accidentally rolled in the water :/

[fallow arch]

also backwards causes sparrow to not know what to do

[dark zephyr]

Okay, nevermind, managed to walk to the shore

[wet tulip]

5th run 2 moths

[river elk]

was going to say use jump, but you made it out anyway, at least you don't die in the water I played some games like that

[lethal tundra]

The Rune hot fix to activate on spirt sight + heavy attack is an improvement.

But we still activate the rune then throw a melee weapon or get multiple swings?

[sinful scarab]

i wasn’t wearing pensive set and was able to get all of them, but i was actually entering through the exit of the dungeon if that makes any difference

[fallow arch]

I hope they move run activate to sight + kick

[knotty moon]

I declare thee, this Prelude's Hero.

[fallow arch]

lets gooo

[wet tulip]

how many runs it took you?

[knotty moon]

Fun fact, you can get the last Mote twice.

[sinful scarab]

i was getting 1 every 2-3 dungeons

[wet tulip]

welcome to the club

[wet tulip]

meanwhile we getting 1-2 each run

so its clearly not a MUST but it helps

[sinful scarab]

hmm

[dark zephyr]

Okay, gotta share it here then: I managed to do that!

Oh, dang, reward...

[wet tulip]

6th run 1 moth

[zenith knoll]

was actually bracing myself for a fight lmao

[spiral gust]

I just did that today. Am I the only one who was expecting an epic super battle that would be the mother of all super battles? :u7

[zenith knoll]

the quest alluded to an actual creature of some kind so i was expecting at least a regular enemy

[knotty moon]

My expectation was a fungal Sproutfolk.

[lilac tapir]

duello pact runnig dewelion. should i reforge dewelion to max out its grace or spirit?

[wet tulip]

me personally i always go for the third virtue the weapon doesnt have. because it makes the weapon flexible in any build and you reach dmg cap with any build

only weapons with 1 virtue attunement for example "marrow's bane" with 4 courage pips only i chose to put grace so it will be at least flexible with courage and grace builds

[kind sapphire]

That’s a shame, but understandable

[paper ibex]

Hey guys ! Sorry to bother you wit my silly question but I just started Soulframe a few hours ago. Chose Sirin as a starter and I'm having trouble finishing the "use 3 runes while in combat" quest.
I have Alca's Breath sloted
But i think i'm lacking the skill that triggers it
Anyone knows how can I unlock the first skill please ?

[kind sapphire]

Runes are on your weapon not pact, hold spectral sight and press heavy

[molten spade]

I went with grace since it'll scale your clone ability as well as headshots from your flintlock

[paper ibex]

Ooooh ok, will try this thanks

[vagrant kayak]

As mentioned Runes are tied to weapons, you gain charges by Smiting enemies (when they glow red, blue or green), but to answer how you unlock the first skill, just levelling the Pact will unlock its 3 skills, at level 30 all Pact skills will be maxxed out

[kind sapphire]

You might not want to use dewelion depending on what you’re going for on duelo unless you just want it for vibes. Some other weapon types have increased pdodge window or really good finishers. For bleed you would probably want something with a higher attack rate but weak against armor because bleed makes these weapons no longer care about armor.

[paper ibex]

Thanks guys, I guess it wasn't an obvious link between getting to smite enemies (i had that) and activating the rune 🙂

[wet tulip]

gg after 7 runs consecutive dungeon runs ( would have been 6 runs if i didnt try to do run number 3 without a relog) @zenith knoll. its fair to assume we need to spread the word for the new dungeon moth hunt

[vagrant kayak]

The whole Rune system JUST changed in this update so the in-game direction isn't on point yet 😅

[proven smelt]

can someone answer this persons question plz? https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1496918557479407728

[kind sapphire]

Yeah i think the only time it prompts you with how to do it is if you go absorb fenn in dungeon

[proven smelt]

my memory is SO bad

[wet tulip]

BTW

[vestal crystal]

I think it just bugged yeah

[proven smelt]

ah ok

[fallow arch]

does using a skin on armor actually screw with the mote spawn?

[proven smelt]

thanks! someone got to it thx all

[wet tulip]

pre new dungeon moth run

[zenith knoll]

i don't know but i didn't take my chances

[wet tulip]

and after

so thats a hefty MR exp gain

[vestal crystal]

Wait what do you mean?

[wet tulip]

this is the max MR exp as of now

[knotty moon]

I'd would like to say no since it doesn't with the Duelo, but...

[vestal crystal]

Rip old fey pact…. The final pieces have disintegrated forever more….

[fallow arch]

this is the pensive set lol

[wet tulip]

so it didnt change for you on moth runs?

[vestal crystal]

Oh bestitching? Wait it influences history mote spawns?

[fallow arch]

I did relog but got nothing on that run

[knotty moon]

We are running with the theory that the Pensive set improves spawn of Motes in the Rovgot Ruins.

[zenith knoll]

there's also a bug with S&S and the durglint rune, in that the rune consumes 2 charges per use instead of one

[vestal crystal]

Ohhhh…. That would be very interesting and a very cool Easter egg bonus!

[proven smelt]

ooo ok Belgo sry 2 hear that

[wet tulip]

no i mean did it make it worse with the skin?

as in no moths at all?

[onyx belfry]

Dumb question, how can I use my rune with a bow after the update?

[fallow arch]

none of the following run from relog but just got one now

why are we calling them moths?

[knotty moon]

Typo.

Or autocorrect maybe.

[wet tulip]

typo yea xDDD

[queen valley]

What silly thing am i missing here? Im literally talking to him right now

[knotty moon]

Try relogging.

[visual radish]

In front of his dorm

Like literally in front of the previous objective

[queen valley]

right you are. didnt realize he would be outside. ty

[misty ingot]

Did they remove the glowing lights that you collect to reveal the name of a location?

[wet tulip]

nope it should work if you dont find any in a place try relogging and heading there again

[misty ingot]

ah, thanks thanks

[wet tulip]

usually in the world locations if theres a mote it should show you when you enter that area

in the top middle of the screen

[misty ingot]

ah with the cute black things with googly eyes right?

[wet tulip]

thats not the case for the new dungeon though

[wet tulip]

yup

[misty ingot]

oh?

[misty ingot]

how so?

[wet tulip]

the new dungeon motes have this theory which really seems true

where having the orlick pensive armor set boosts the chances for motes in the new dungeon

[misty ingot]

okay, good to know. thanks so much ^__^

[thorny glen]

what is "golden courage" scale in terms of ammount? is it 3?

[rough sky]

Magick weapon not being able to headshot anymore is intended or a bug?

[rough sky]

5

[thorny glen]

yippe

wait, i just checked with a 3 courage weapon, if i add 2 more courage, it goes golden, but if i ad 3, it's still golden, is 5 the max you can put in one stat refine?

[rough sky]

5 is the max as per P14 patch notes

[thorny glen]

darn

marrow bite nerf

this does more dmg than one extra courage

bit annoying when i'm a full courage build

[rough sky]

not really a nerf, its just how the attunement system works

[thorny glen]

i wanted my 43 courage build to matter :*(

[dusky socket]

At max MR with full Courage you hit the attunement cap with the base Marrow's attunement regardless. So doesn't really matter if you put a joinery on it or not 🤷‍♂️

[iron temple]

Gathannan and Purity still take a bit more virtue than most to max... 😅

[mental topaz]

Still no plans for PvP in Soulframe, is that correct?

[thorny glen]

wait, i need a certain helmet to do the rapier duel?

[rough sky]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[wet tulip]

still highest max HP xD

[zenith knoll]

the duelo ribbon you get from the quest, yeah

[thorny glen]

any idea where the quest starts?

[zenith knoll]

one of the shipwrecks around midrath

[thorny glen]

amazing

[iron temple]

In Rovgot Ruins, while relog farming for the motes, I've had really long streaks of both bad and good luck, mostly really bad and I'm having a hard time getting motes to spawn again and spending extra time in the instance isn't helping currently... 😅

[thorny glen]

whatever, i'm gonna farm the motes in the dungeons first

[dusty hare]

So there is no meaningful difference between 2,3, or 4 pips

If you intend to max them out with a joinery

[rough sky]

there is in terms of scaling and in terms of build choices

[mental topaz]

It was a serious question -- so that's a no? 🙁

[iron temple]

I'm at 4/9 progress Rovgot Ruins motes relog farming... 😅

[thorny glen]

i have to relog in oder to span them if they didn't already? will they 100% spawn if i'm full scribe guy set

[rough sky]

if they said PvP is planned i've never seen it

[mental topaz]

tyvm

[iron temple]

That worked for a few runs then stopped for me... 😅

[thorny glen]

oh the things we do for completion

also i'm getting these new silver medals, where do i use these?

oh, these are kith

[smoky crater]

yes they have said no plans for pvp atm

[dusky socket]

Being that Rovgot is a "preview" you can assume that there are portions of it that "exist" but behind doors we can't get to, so Motes will be spawning in inacessible areas. So, 100% spawn per login, probably. But can you find them? No

[smoky crater]

kinda doubt that's how it be? i'd guess preview just means that they're working on a lot more content as a whole for the dungeon type

[iron temple]

I think I once pulled a mote I couldn't see in a wall once when I was trying to smite a mendicant knight... 😅🤔

[thorny glen]

this has layers of esoteric completion

[paper ibex]

Is it usual that I get only totems for another weapon than mine ?

Or am I just terribly unlucky (i'm playing bow)

[dusky socket]

It's completely random which totems you get

[iron temple]

So this Rovgot Ruins mote situation is just like Mirfuir motes all over again... 🤔😅

[dusky socket]

Just how unfinished parts of the game work

[iron temple]

My current Rovgot Ruins mote progress is currently roughly this: 4 runs bad luck, 4 runs great luck, and now 10 or more runs of bad luck... 😅

[thorny glen]

2 runs so far with backtracking, and 0 motes

[iron temple]

Looks like my horrible bad luck streak is broken by a run with 2 motes! 😄

[dusty hare]

Isnt 2 + 3 = 3 +3 = 3 + 3 = 5 when it comes to joinery

[thorny glen]

i've been to 4 shipwrecks so far, is the helm from a normal chest and i've been unlucky?

[smoky crater]

it's from the duel not the chests ._.

[thorny glen]

and how do i get duels?

i was told to start a quest to get a helm to be able to start duels

and to do that i need to....get more shipwrecks?

[smoky crater]

ye you need to pick up 3 pieces of a ribbon at the shipwrecks

[thorny glen]

i found no such things at the shipwrecks

nothing glowing in focus mode

[smoky crater]

should glow in spectralsight

hm

well that is how it's meant to work ._.

[thorny glen]

ok so it looks liek this, first time seeing one after 5 shipwrecks

[smoky crater]

yep

[woven nimbus]

some of the shipwrecks are unrelated to the quest

[thorny glen]

grabed it, dud a tune....and nothign else

this game is so esoteric

[woven nimbus]

by design

[smoky crater]

get 2 more

[thorny glen]

ok NOW the quest started

[karmic fulcrum]

i have an account already but how do i get access

[thorny glen]

you need to activate a key they handout in from twitch steams after 30 min watch

[smoky crater]

there do be other ways aswell but that's the easiest way especially considering there's a stream tomorrow

[karmic fulcrum]

ahh okey me my brother and dad wanna play

[smoky crater]

alternatively you could also buy one of the small founder packs for 30 bucks, get instant access for 1 account and get 2 codes that you can use to activate the other 2 accounts

[thorny glen]

make sure you all have your own twitch accounts and watch 30 min to each get a key

[mighty relic]

when is the next key stream drop?

[karmic fulcrum]

yeye just linked my twitch

[fervent sun]

tomorrow afternoon, you can check the "event" at the top left of this discord

[pure shoal]

do you think well get stuff to mine and fish? cause i found this thing

[thorny glen]

maybe one day

[pure shoal]

be kinda cool

[thorny glen]

we had a long talk about cooking awhile back

[pure shoal]

ohhh that would be super cool

[thorny glen]

ended up saying we would become vegetarian because we are warriors of nature

[pure shoal]

whaaaat, no! i want squirrel!

[sly matrix]

Warframe mining PTSD intensifies

[pure shoal]

lol that is very valid

[thorny glen]

what's the cooldown on the shipwreck duel?

[smoky crater]

i've heard both 3h and 2h per duel but idk anymore

[versed pumice]

are the 4 codes you get for other people meaning i need to keep one for myself or can i share them with 4 friends and i just use the link?

[smoky crater]

for others

[versed pumice]

alrighty thank you :D

[thorny glen]

per location or like a fort cooldown?

[smoky crater]

like i said i dunno

[thorny glen]

the quest is telling me to pull a polearm now

any diff?

[iron temple]

per location

and there are lots of locations...

[thorny glen]

8 locations, 8 times the drop table?

[iron temple]

about that much yeah! 😄

But it is random what locations are currently up... 😄

[calm crown]

Ohh I really hope not. Not here for that Valheim experience.

[smoky crater]

think you might get disappointed in the future 👀

[opal fable]

is the oden conductor the guy on top of the towers?

[dusky socket]

Yes. No to be confused with the 3 Conductor bosses at Mirifuir, though

[opal fable]

alright, hes just a pain to smite since hes so weak

[dusky socket]

Gotta slap on some unlevelled, unattuned flyblades lol

[knotty moon]

Don't trigger him, Smite him from outside.

[opal fable]

my current strat is kicking with a greatsword

[iron temple]

Oh thx! 😄

[pure shoal]

can someone help me understand the breakdowns of the virtues, i know courage gives life, but the other ones confuse me a bit.

[opal fable]

although kicking feels very strange, its a 1/8 to smite but sometimes i can kick enemies to death with like 100+ kicks and no smite

and sometimes higher level enemies die to like 5 kicks

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Virtues

[iron temple]

Hurrays, I finally got all motes in Rovgot Ruins! 😻🎉 It was almost as if it was forcing a cycle of some kind because I would have several runs of good luck and more of bad luck alternating, but it was probably coincidence... 😅

[opal fable]

how many runs did you think it took you, and do you need to were the pensive robes?

its the last thing i need for mastery, but it sounds really painful

[zenith knoll]

oh damn, you can get sap for cogah potions from the neathuns containers now

[iron temple]

I must have had about 30 or so runs total with pensive robes on the whole time...

[opal fable]

wait only 30? thats not so bad

[zenith knoll]

try with the full pensive set?

nvm just saw you're finished

[iron temple]

Yes that is what I said...

[opal fable]

i was assuming it would be 100's

[zenith knoll]

as of last hotfix apparently it's fairly quick to do

[iron temple]

Some people managed to complete it under 10...

[versed pumice]

what started pact would be good for somebody wanting to solo play for now?

[zenith knoll]

jesus i can't type

[opal fable]

because i only have 1 after like 150 runs, that was pre hotfix tho

[zenith knoll]

go for it again then

[knotty moon]

Yeah, I averaged at two per run.
Though I had to backtrack from the Wyrm to get them to spawn most of the time.

[iron temple]

They seem to usually spawn 2 motes at a time and I recommend giving the first one time to register before pulling the 2nd which is generally very close to the other... 😅

[opal fable]

i need the last few enemies for my codex and the motes and i think im 100% again

[iron temple]

I had the opposite issue where backtracking and waiting didn't ever make a difference and they would always just be already spawned and there...

[thorny glen]

so if i get 1 or 2 then that's it, pack it up and relog for the next run

[iron temple]

Yes that is how it played out. 😄

[thorny glen]

they are just gas motes, right?

[iron temple]

The glowing gold things just like overland.

[thorny glen]

never seen them during my 4 runs

with armor set ofc

[cloud snow]

Am I able to play on bazzite os

[iron temple]

That is how my first 4 runs started out, then I had my first burst of good luck! 😄

[opal fable]

where does the elite sincure soldier with the fur colar spawn?

[wet tulip]

glades if you mean with the pointy type of hat?

can you send a pic or something ?

[opal fable]

ah, the name of the pic says enough

[smoky crater]

dunno if it'll work for you but https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1473854528913670285

there are a lot playing the game on linux already

[opal fable]

oh i can't post the link, its the sinecureAssassinGlades

[wet tulip]

xD

[versed pumice]

are all pacts earnable by just playing?

[opal fable]

yeah, but i didn't see that untill i tried to post the picture

[wet tulip]

these right?

[opal fable]

i saw then when copying the image link

no, thats the scout

they have a fur piece over their shoulders

[smoky crater]

all outside of the Wyld pacts from the founder packs but those will become farmable for free eventually aswell

[versed pumice]

alright sweet ty once again

[zenith knoll]

them? yeah they're from the glades

[versed pumice]

im just trying to figure stuff out :p appreciate it

[smoky crater]

[opal fable]

honestly before this update i never even knew there were this many enemy variants

[zenith knoll]

and the fun part is that the codex is STILL missing some

[wet tulip]

funniest part theres this too then

but with swords

and same drop table apparently lol

[zenith knoll]

you have an entry for etheldred the weaver but not for seachnall, its dungeon counterpart

[opal fable]

do these actually have that bracket thing in front of their faces? i couldnt really see those on their ingame models

[wet tulip]

most likely those types spawn in the new siege

[opal fable]

i have scanned them, but it didn't stand out that much as in the picture

[wet tulip]

because since p14 i farmed only the new siege/ NE camps/ new dungeon

[opal fable]

its almost on eye level in the pic

[wet tulip]

most likely ill start running with a not attuned bow to deal minimal dmg and pull smite on anything i see xD

[opal fable]

so far the kicking strat has been working for me, except tower conductors

[wet tulip]

lol kicking can smite proc xd?

thats a first never knew that

but ngl idk what DE expect us to do with this one really

[opal fable]

most weapons have a totem for it, greatsword has the best one i think

[opal fable]

can oscelda 1 trigger smite?

[wet tulip]

pact abilities dont proc smite i think

[edgy spear]

Stupid question: When falling , attacking mid fall resets momentum on first attack. Is this intended?

[wet tulip]

like only ability affecting smite is orengall third ability

[opal fable]

i sure hope so, its so nice

[wet tulip]

it was first a "bug" and devs kept it as a mechanic lol

[knotty moon]

Is there an Arcanic that does no damage but can Smite?

[wet tulip]

can pact abilities even proc smite though in the first place?

i played for so long and i cant seem to remember xDDDD

[knotty moon]

I remember Oscelda birbs triggering it, but that does damage iirc.

[ripe bone]

ember can, i have 10 gb of video footage of it proccing smite 💀

[edgy spear]

Ok i found that the Nurash doesn't have this mechanic then, fell of the organ like usual attacked and smashed into the ground like Bromus and died

[ripe bone]

also duo duelo attacks can proc smite too

[knotty moon]

All three Mockery weapons do not have that mechanic, all other weapons do.
No idea if the omission is intentional.

[zenith knoll]

current journal progress on my end

[timid plinth]

did yall know that
Rolling + interacting with pickupables works the same way in warframe?
You can skip pick up move lock animation

[thorny glen]

yea...i don't think you can pull smite some of these

they need to add "per kill" and then make animals that are fully codexed a higher chance to skip minigame

[knotty moon]

Oh that would be a nice progression thing.

[tiny loom]

I have a pact with her though?

[opal fable]

i think you idk is the one that does not spawn no?

[zenith knoll]

yeah but no, it's placeholder

[knotty moon]

Ignore that, placeholder.

[thorny glen]

you need to swear more :)

[zenith knoll]

hang on let me try and translate their name

[tiny loom]

Ah

[opal fable]

there is an axe officer that does not spawn ive read

[zenith knoll]

oh it's hewyl

one of the agari

[knotty moon]

Should be a Banneret, maybe from Faction Tales?

[opal fable]

funny, hewyl is the last one i need too

[wet tulip]

everytime i see this im thinking . why cant this be a special joint event xD

[halcyon thicket]

wonder if this guy was added

[zenith knoll]

the "who?" i've marked is "Gruul Seeker Sontaro"

that one does not ring a bell

[opal fable]

have you ever blown up the ship?

[wet tulip]

nah it simply spawned xD

[ripe bone]

where did sontaro vella and hewyl go now that they were replaced by sinecure officers?

[knotty moon]

Was supposed to be, kinda.
The location was supposed to be the same for all player, never managed to figure out if that was ever true.

[wet tulip]

and dispawned. most likely organ event overwritten the collector

[halcyon thicket]

here's vella 😂

[zenith knoll]

kay updated

[opal fable]

i learned it a while ago, you can send up a bomb to the collector to make the ship crash and skip a bunch of the fight

[knotty moon]

Ichorlich is not bugged, Mendicant King spawns them at the start of the fight.

[zenith knoll]

does he? damn

[opal fable]

he keeps spawning them if he has at least 3 melee boys up

[knotty moon]

Also no need to do Bromious' Fable three times, just need to log out before killing him.

[halcyon thicket]

he spawns them infinitely

[zenith knoll]

i thought they were the dudes from the new dungeon

nevermind then

also circade is proving to be extremely difficult to get a smite on, even with orengall's 3

[opal fable]

yeah he was annoying, ive kicked him to death maybe 3 more times before i got enough smites

[graceful veldt]

Hi, I’m currently downloading Soulframe and I’m super hyped. Can you tell me how much content is in the game right now? Am I able to spend like a few dozen hours in it in its current state?

[knotty moon]

I'm counting 500h and climbing.
But really it is kinda hit or miss, the game, while very good in its current state, is noticeably unfinished.

[opal fable]

if you just do all the story quests its not very long, but if you want all the weapons/pacts etc it can be quite a while

oh the motes are not bad at all in the new dungeon, i get like 2 literally every run

[proper crystal]

do you have the pensive set on?

[opal fable]

yeah

[proper crystal]

guess what the pensive set does

[opal fable]

yeah done in about 5 runs

[upper osprey]

uh... why mada doesnt talk with me?

[opal fable]

did you shoot the floating box?

[upper osprey]

oh. ty

[proper crystal]

nah rovgot motes are fake for me

on my 6th run, not a single spawn after the first, full pensive

[upper osprey]

i got one in my 8th run.

[knotty moon]

Tried backtracking from the Wyrm?

[wet tulip]

eyyyyyyy

[amber tendon]

which is the easier way to pull smite+ using your rune

[upper osprey]

lets go

got one after pulled the chain down

the mote wasnt on the place, after i pulled the thinggie, it spawned(?)

[knotty moon]

It spawns on a time delay, my suggestion is to clear the dungeon, then backtrack after the Wyrm.

[upper osprey]

lemme ask a question, when i click one of those, i go to a certain, dungeon/boss.
it shows me the place i didnt explored yet? or the place that still have something to find out?

sorry for my horrific explanation, im trying my best on my english haha

[proper crystal]

well i backtracked from the wyrm and still no motes

[upper osprey]

try pull the stringgies, may be have something attached to it, or i just had the luck to spawn after i did the thing

[zenith knoll]

might be just you, never had to pull anything

[opal fable]

sometimes they just take a while to spawn

leaving and reentrying the room can spawn them

[upper osprey]

oh i found my errors on why i dont have the max-level on soulframe, there is some locations i didnt got the motes like he sinkland depths on neth'uns and rivernest

[knotty moon]

Sinkland Depths?
Rivernest?
That's from non-English Soulframe or did I miss some too?

[halcyon thicket]

i think he's playing on a dev build

[quasi wolf]

How good is mistgale compared to everflame ?

[knotty moon]

Oh, I got the Rune tutorial, for some reason.

And seems it got stuck on my screen. 🤣

[upper osprey]

font: avakot wiki

[knotty moon]

Ah, those are unmarked.

[upper osprey]

so they dont apply on the codex?

[halcyon thicket]

nope

[knotty moon]

Nope, or at least not as far as I know.

[upper osprey]

back to stake 0 then...

[upper osprey]

last question for today.

to complete this entry, i need to challenge all the bosses or have something specific to do?

[knotty moon]

You just need to cugh more Cogah potions, no need to actually engage with the Cogah.

Don't even need to get out of one first.

[opal fable]

is this the most you can do in the codex for now?

[upper osprey]

oh, just that?

i did like 3-4 runs only to get all the content. welp. ty @knotty moon ❤️

[knotty moon]

Seems so, maybe the Banneret spawns from FT, but that's a wild guess.

[opal fable]

wiki says its an officer with an axe

[knotty moon]

The name is Sinecure Officer, the model seems to be the deer guy type.

[opal fable]

now i just need the rare rats and beavers

[knotty moon]

Like this one.
Given that some of the names are mixed up, it could be possible.

[opal fable]

the wiki has a picture of it, idk if its accurate

[knotty moon]

As much as I trust the ones compiling that list, until someone comes out and tells me they tried and didn't work I'll hold out hope.

[opal fable]

i think i have maxed everything and im slightly over 18.5 now

[wet tulip]

like this?

[opal fable]

yeah

[wet tulip]

yeah ur maxed

[thorny glen]

so that's with every new weapon and pact, right?

[opal fable]

yeah, and every location

[wet tulip]

yup and the motes from dungeon

[thorny glen]

THE THINGS WE DO FOR COMPLETION!

i hate that mote randomness

[opal fable]

honestly, the motes were very very easy withe the pensive set

like 5 runs

[thorny glen]

i got 5 dungeon runs with that set and none

i cri

[opal fable]

make sure to give it some time btw

sometimes it takes to motes a bit to spawn, so run through the dungeon twice

[thorny glen]

i waited like 2 min each large zone

backtracked everytime i killed the boss

[opal fable]

unlucky then

[thorny glen]

:(

[proper crystal]

hold up, why did they decrease paragon's base damage?

[opal fable]

they did? you sure you just didn't lose some damage from the joinery changes

[thorny glen]

so anyway, new weapons, where are they?
rapier is from quest, staff is from new fort, where is shield and dagger?

[proper crystal]

it's 63 now, used to be 67

[thorny glen]

max stat is 5 now (appears as golden)

[opal fable]

mendicant boys in new dungeon

[knotty moon]

Another Repier from the Duelo or the Fort, the Sword&Shield is from the mendicant enemies, and a Sword is from the Wyrm.

[thorny glen]

both dagger and shield?

wyrm?

[opal fable]

dagger? if you mean the cenotaph its from the dungeon boss

[proper crystal]

cenotaph is a long blade

[knotty moon]

Boss of Rovgot Ruins.

[thorny glen]

ah the new boss

so, new dungeon mobs and then boss will get me the 2 weapons

and new fort gives me staff and rapier

[opal fable]

yeah

you can also get the new rapier from the boat fights

[thorny glen]

and last rapier is from the duels

[hidden kite]

where do we farm the new armor Q.Q?

[thorny glen]

do i need to keep the fancy hat on?

[violet siren]

Hi, im come back to Soulframe Preludes. Sorry if this question is obvious nad i am stupid. Is there possible to reset my Character? I just want start from begening, fresh start

[proper crystal]

duels

ribbon is necessary for duels yes

[thorny glen]

darn

[knotty moon]

Only for the Duelos.

[smoky crater]

not without making a new account atm

[knotty moon]

No, but most quest can be replayed.

[opal fable]

i don't really understand why people want a new character, you can change your appearance and you can replay the quests

[knotty moon]

Restartitis. ^^

[thorny glen]

they want the whimsy of discovery

[upper osprey]

you know which dungeons have motes? bro im needing those.

[wet tulip]

the new one

[upper osprey]

just the new one?

[knotty moon]

Rovgot Ruins is the only one, as far as I know.

[thorny glen]

the far south east one, the new fallen tower

also wear the new armor set from the quest to get them

[knotty moon]

That said the other dungeons do have locations that can be discovered and get written down on the Journal:

    Bastion
    Brackport
    Crypt of Auld Jotar
    Dermak Market
    Fenn's Sanctuary
    Forgotten Refuge
    Pegroot Mill
    Terpeth District

Glades of Andurin
    Folksgrove
    Glades of Andurin
    Picktrix Thicket

Crypt of the Circade
    The Tomb of The Circade```

[upper osprey]

this one? xD

[opal fable]

im not a huge fan of these armor requirements to do the duels or get the motes, seems a bit annoying to have to swap all the time if they continue with this

[thorny glen]

yea

but the full set

also maybe disable the tansmute

[violet siren]

game is chaotic for player like me who did not play warfame earlier just. I realy dont understand when my character is levelup, tons of stuff in inventory that i dont know how to use, after couple hours i can play only one weapon efectivly

[proper crystal]

i wonder if mr 19 is possible with all of those

[smoky crater]

i don't feel like there's any need to have played warframe before this

[thorny glen]

playing from scratch will not fix this

[knotty moon]

Fairly sure it is not.

[thorny glen]

18.5 is max right now

[upper osprey]

i dont like the visual of the pensive, but, welp, i will try

[wet tulip]

nope

[thorny glen]

me neither, but the things we do for completion!

i am a full courage build, but have to change my amulet to enable pensive armor bonuses

[knotty moon]

My suggestion is to watch the Envoy Hours streams, which you can find in youtube, the devteam runs through the early game and does explain things a bit, if on older versions of the game.

[upper osprey]

ok i will check all of those and see if something is missing out for me.

[wet tulip]

anyone managing to pull smite from the circade xD?

[proper crystal]

precklies?

[thorny glen]

alot of creatures you can't pull smite from

like those small sprouts

[knotty moon]

Low scaling Precklies with the Smite perks on orbiting and plain Smite.

[proper crystal]

do animal and enemy journal entries give mastery?

[knotty moon]

As far as I know no one tested it.

[opal fable]

i just kick spammed with a 1/8 smite totem on the circade boss

[wet tulip]

ive been using a simple kick for smite totem combo xD

[thorny glen]

what about those sprout bombs!?

[opal fable]

i don't think they can be scanned

unless someone knows something that does no damage but can trigger smites

[wet tulip]

yea not possible

ita a DE troll for now xD

[knotty moon]

Does Tethren's Clash Arcanic trigger smite?

[thorny glen]

unless they somehow make one of the buffs that slow apply the smite with 0 dmg

new duel pact also slows enemies

we are trying to not burst those bulbs

so something medium range

[opal fable]

im fairly sure oscelda 1 does not cause smite

[smoky crater]

doesn't that deal damage aswell tho?

[wet tulip]

bestone 0 dmg

[knotty moon]

They die when the petrification ends.

[opal fable]

well, they float there as a rock for a while

[wet tulip]

i think

like the initial cast

[upper osprey]

i finally found what i dont have.
TODO -
Undercity of Dermak:
Forgotten Refuge
Terpeth District
Crypt of the Circade:
The Tomb of The Circade
those 3 ^

[smoky crater]

terpeth district im pretty sure is guaranteed from the entrance next to college

[wet tulip]

yea i think circade smite pull is bugged rn xD

no matter what i try 0 smites xD

[knotty moon]

It ain't, did it earlier.

[mellow drum]

How does damage work? Is it a linear subtraction thing (like armor - incoming hit damage = final damage applied to health)? Or does it sit on a curve? I ask because I have been messing with defense values or whatever they're called, swapping things around, and there doesn't seem to be much difference in the damage I take from an enemy of the same level whether I've got like 50 or 60 in an individual defense

[smoky crater]

defence values are flat yeah 👀

as in yes it is damage - armor = damage dealt

[knotty moon]

Enemy armor is.
Player armor, I have no idea, but should work the same (do keep in mind the smaller number are relevant, the big one is a sum of them all).

[mellow drum]

Do we have a source for this? I didn't see anything on the wiki, which is the reason why I'm asking here.

[wet tulip]

exactly what ive been trying to do xD

[zenith knoll]

Orlick taught me a new word that I can't find the definition of: "malderation"

[wet tulip]

5 circades killed no smite

with kicks only xD

[knotty moon]

Try orbiting precklies, the kick might not register properly maybe?

[wet tulip]

i literally done half of my codex with kicks xD

and on circade it wont register xD?

[knotty moon]

I know for certain that works.

🤷‍♂️

[wet tulip]

i even done circade ghosts with kicks lmao

[opal fable]

to me it felt like the circade boss has a thing that reduces smite chance or something

[wet tulip]

whats funny

i remember helping some starter envoy to get his talisman on P13

[knotty moon]

If true it might get the kick to 0%, would be the only enemy that has such a mechanic, but could be possible.

[wet tulip]

and smites were procing easy then

[opal fable]

since its so incredibly unlikely you fail a 1/8 like 50 times in a row

[zenith knoll]

crypt ghosts in general seem to have higher smite resist than average

at least to me

[wet tulip]

i got 6 full hp of circade killed only with kicks and 0 smites

kicks do seem rigged on circade lmao

btw i tried precklies too

still no smite xDDDD

[knotty moon]

You are cursed.

[wet tulip]

i used all of my RNG on lyke wake on hotfix 1 timeline

[knotty moon]

And I'm not joking, given the Rank C bug on Sieges it might be true.

[mellow drum]

I think this is one of those cases where DE is using an old english word and adding a modern english twist to it, in order to make it sound like it alliterates better or sounds more poetic. I looked up malder and malderate, and the closest thing I could find was mald being slang for a mad balding person. So "Murmuring Malderations" might be Orlick's way of making fun of one of his colleagues.

[knotty moon]

Would try to join someone and see if you can pull a Smite in someone else game, can invite you if you want to test.

[wet tulip]

if you can yea

[zenith knoll]

just when I think I have a great grasp on the English language, SF comes to slap me on the back of the head

thanks for the explanation though!

[opal fable]

this game must be a nightmare to translate to other languages

[mellow drum]

lol not much of an explanation. I'm kinda feeling around in the dark on that one

[zenith knoll]

as a translator myself (English to French) I really gotta sympathize with the loc teams here

[mellow drum]

especially with how they're trying to mimic a non-modern speech pattern

shit sounds beautiful, but yeah it must be a nightmare to translate and get the same gist/vibes across

[glacial arch]

no wonder it's so confusing

I commented on my stream last night about not knowing what the heck words meant

but I thought they were real words

[zenith knoll]

I play the game in French so I read the English script afterwards and I'm like HUH

[wet tulip]

yup

[mellow drum]

dude i've spoken english my whole life and i'm still confused sometimes

[wet tulip]

the circade smite kick was literally a bug on my end xD

[knotty moon]

Just to let people know, this was correct, in my game a smite was pulled in a few kicks.

[wet tulip]

i joined dexell's host first 10 kicks smite proc xD

[opal fable]

classic

[half talon]

Story of my life…

[zenith knoll]

i see some super antiquated sentence structures at times but nothing I can't understand, but some words are just. wtf

"malderations" being one of them

[mellow drum]

What was that meme I saw awhile back about my mother tongue? "There are no rules, intelligibility is the only law, do what you will".... I will say though, to the dialogue writers, nice work. Even if I don't understand it immediately, it sounds very nice and I still get it pretty fast.

[normal sail]

dw belgo, most of DE is still trying to pronounce the words themselves

[zenith knoll]

OH and "wevet" like in "wevetwood" also. didn't know it was an ancient variant of "weave"

[normal sail]

but for translation stuff also not too suprised theres issues given most of the words and structure are in Old English

[zenith knoll]

in FR they just translated it as "wevette" which is... honestly not a bad call

took me some time to accept it but I fully understand the reasoning now

[knotty moon]

Didn't know that, thanks.

[glacial arch]

is there a discord with actual vc out there. i've only played like two hours as the spirit class and i'd love people to roll with

normal people tho

[knotty moon]

Avakot.org's Discord does have VC.

[glacial arch]

sweet thank you so much

[knotty moon]

Not sure about other comunities.

[wet tulip]

@knotty moon wanted to ask. you got access to edit wiki.avakot right?

[knotty moon]

You just need to register, as far as I know.

But yeah, I edit some stuff from time to time.

[wet tulip]

lol didnt see where i can register on the wiki website

[knotty moon]

Lower left sidebar.

[wet tulip]

ohs

yea ill try to edit it myself rn then

since current mestra armor pips arent accurate

xD

[twilit vine]

is it just me or the runes are broken? like i feel it's not working at all

[smoky crater]

they changed the rune activation to spectralsight + heavy attack with the last hotfix

[mellow drum]

do we add that one to the count

[smoky crater]

but also if you happen to be using Avex... that thing's got a bug where runes don't work with it

[twilit vine]

oh wow thank you for saving my life

[woven robin]

Are the motes spawning in the new dungeon?

[smoky crater]

mhm, just very rare

[midnight tartan]

whats the current best source for gossamer quartz. is it still crypts?

[knotty moon]

Yes, current theory is that the Pensive set makes the spawn common.
Keep in mind the spawn has a time delay, I suggest fully clearing the dungeon of enemies, killing the Wyrm and then backtracking.

[opal fable]

also make sure to relog between every run

at least thats what i did and literally every run had 2 motes

[half talon]

Glades for me. But everyone has their own places to farm

[woven robin]

What you mean relog

[opal fable]

as in log out and log back in

[median rain]

Hello.
I was reading on the wiki that leveling up the " Olho por Olho " passive on Duelo doesn't increase bleed chances nor bleed damage. Can someone confirm ? Should i avoid maxing it then ?
Thanks !

[woven robin]

The pensive armor equipped or bestich works?

[woven robin]

Ohhh got it, thanks

[knotty moon]

Armor equip, we did it without bestiching to be sure, but in theory removing that is unecessary.

[woven robin]

Thanks👍

[knotty moon]

Time to hunt down charm the animals.

[opal fable]

ethically kidnap them to be thrown on the totem pile

[normal sail]

just uhh be mindful when you log out next that there is a super slim possibility that those scans will vanish to the void

[half talon]

Yeah… my 26 scans…I don’t wanna look

[wet tulip]

umm im trying to edit the wiki but i dont see where im going wrong xD

[knotty moon]

Scan, Nightfold, relog. 👍
Same procedure of the enemies really.

[half talon]

This is not the discord to discuss wiki issues.

[wet tulip]

soz

[normal sail]

the nightfold will never stop being our “saving” mechanic

[half talon]

Until it is…

[sly matrix]

I'm just waiting for the day I login, go to the nightfold and have a small kid standing there going "Hey Kiddo...'"

[halcyon sky]

do all sieges have level 40 enemies or is that only mirifur?

[half talon]

That’ll be amazing.

[half talon]

Just Mirifuir. Unless you’re doing cogah

[cyan prawn]

hello, i can't find how to use a Rune for the quest after equipping it, any help?

[sly matrix]

Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack 🙂

[cyan prawn]

Q + mouse 3 ?

[sly matrix]

Yes 🙂

But you need charges to use it, which you accumulate from Smithing enemies. You can see your charges around your 2-ability... Each Rank of the Rune grants 1 extra charge up to 4

[knotty moon]

After charging it by Pulling a Smite.

[bold magnet]

hello.
I'm back after so long. Is there a list of settings for keyboard? I can't recall how to smite?

[sly matrix]

Also, Runes are crazy OP.. 2-3 fully charged hits is usally enough to down most bosses in Normal 😛

[knotty moon]

Settings -> Keyboard/Mouse -> Customize Key Bindings.

[sly matrix]

When an Enemy starts to Glow, you used Spectral Sight (Q) and Mouse 1

[bronze adder]

(in cogah too) boss scaling in cogah is non existent

[cyan prawn]

Seems like i don't understand sorry ahahah

[bold magnet]

oh, thank you everyone. I appreciate it

[cyan prawn]

I just have to left click and get charges?

[sly matrix]

Ah fair, haven't tried Cogah yet myself 😄

While the enemy is Glowing, which indicates they're ready to be Smith'en

[bronze adder]

ah i see haha

[sly matrix]

And they have a chance to start glowing when you attack them. All weapons have a chance to Smite... 1:100, 3:50 etc.

[knotty moon]

When an enemy glows like this (can also be Green or Red), use Spectral Sight + Light Attack.
That is a Pull Smite.

[cyan prawn]

Just did it! thank u bro ❤️

[sly matrix]

The weird enemies that looks like a Ghost incased in Rock also needs to be killed with Smite 😄 When they "die" they drop a spirit you need to Smite to kill them properly, or they'll just respawn 🙂

[elder solstice]

hello guys, is there a website where i can see builds or smthg? ive been 2 days playing it, im going on spirit

[knotty moon]

Not really, there was an attempt in the wiki, but no one used it as far as I know.

[upper osprey]

the ston broke my bird :c

[orchid remnant]

hey.

I'm really have an hard time getting the vadagar too spawn I swear I'm sitting 4-8 full nights with nothing and then when one finally spawn its ofc not the one i need wich is random that cool but really that hard to get it spawn it? I've been ad it for hours on end now and its getting a bit irritating XD any got any good tricks or tips?

quick side not I have tried shifting places but not with a lot of luck and I haven't had a mission with vadagar in for ever so cant even take those XD
any help its great help

[upper osprey]

Since i never did the circade puzzle, i may ask, how i spawn the circade outside the dungeon? i need the 3 pieces of the pendant first?

[knotty moon]

I seem to always get a Vadagar spawn at Stroaic, should be one at Birdie's Bog too which is close.
My suggestion is to check those places, and relog if they don't spawn.
Relogging might also work for rerolling which one you get, but never actually tried.

[knotty moon]

Yes, you need to wear the appropiate pendant for the time of day.
More info here: https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade

[upper osprey]

ok

[orchid remnant]

aight for sure cuess first i farmed southeast/west blue area with a little luck then nothing for like 10 nights staight thought of shifting place so i move Wyndon Village tried that for now 3 nights with not a single luck rather on missions or on the spawner it self. quick side qustion its not beacusse im in the alca pact or what its called? uk advokato men?

[upper osprey]

so i just... wait here?

[knotty moon]

The Faction you are in should not have any influence on it as far as I know.

[orchid remnant]

im not good with names but i have been farming there with no luck for days on end so i manged to farm mendicant king from nothing to everting (beside like 1 fragment sword and one fragment breastplade)

[knotty moon]

When it should spawn the pendant should start glowing.

[upper osprey]

this kind of glow or more intense?

[knotty moon]

More, should emit a bit of light iirc.

[upper osprey]

welp im running to get into mirifuir, hope he spawns

[knotty moon]

Seen a screenshot of him spawning into the Duelo, so Mirifuir should be fair game.

[lucid pebble]

Im kinda lost, how do I use a rune for the Grand Fable quest?

[upper osprey]

and also day 4 trying to spawn the sword xd

[knotty moon]

Might be the wrong wreck.

[knotty moon]

On the top of my mind I remember the correct wrecks being near Othavess, and west of Mirifuir. Don't remember the other six.

[dusky socket]

These are the 8 shipwreck locations that can spawn the sword. It's a toss up which have a duel available. I've done runs of all 8 where I only had 3 duels, and ones where I had 6 duels, so, just gotta go the distance lol.

[upper osprey]

i will go there, i need to farm the dual blades,so... time to walk

i found the sword

[dusky socket]

As you can teleport to the central west of the map by playing the flute in Nightfold, I suggest starting at the NW spot, running around to the E and SE locations, then teleporting to central west and completing the 3 top to bottom. It's impossible to walk along the beach below Castle Kearnhold

[thorny glen]

the hardest farm this update is probably the new fort, just from the 3 hour cooldown

the new dungeon is a close second

[white igloo]

So... how do I get animal journal entries? Do I need 100% perfection on the charm mini game?

cuz that's hard with my low FPS

[dusky socket]

No, any charm, even by freeing an animal from a cage, will count

[white igloo]

So how do I see progress then-

[knotty moon]

Just need to keep scanning, perfection is not required.
Do note that it is currently bugged, so only one scan per session per type is going to be saved.

To be safe, after a scan go to the Nightfold and then relog.

[dusky socket]

Click the entry in the journal and you'll see some of the letters have been revealed. Each charm reveals more letters, and a little more of the picture

[knotty moon]

Rare animals (those that have five notes in the minigame) are conted as separate entries.

[white igloo]

It's surprisingly difficult for me to track down a squirrel right now

used to see them everywhere, now it's just rabbits and baby deer

ok so I relogged and all my journal entries cleared out.

great

[knotty moon]

Yeah, as I said, only one scan per type gets saved.

[white igloo]

No, I mean All

I had 3 scans

2 enemies, 1 animal, all gone after that relog

[knotty moon]

As in, those entries don't have a single letter revealed?

[white igloo]

...Ok well there are letters revealed, but-

[knotty moon]

Yeah, you got one scan saved then.
Bugframe unfortunately.

Also, the scan that gets saved is unaugmented by Orlicks traits, so you might unlock an entry completely, but upon relog find out that a letter of two disappeared.

[white igloo]

pain

[knotty moon]

Yep.

Le sigh...
Apparently if the auto charm triggers no scan is saved either.
Apparently just that one scan didn't get saved, strange.

[elder lantern]

Do I still have to die in mirf to get the new rewards? Like get less than S

[knotty moon]

Not since H3 I think, also the Espadarte can be gained from the Duelo now.

[elder lantern]

You the man

Confirmed

[lyric leaf]

I've only just realized there's a fast travel mechanic.

[knotty moon]

^^

Two even, if you count the Eternium Gardens bringing you back near the Faction hubs.

[glacial arch]

how do you equip souls i see stats on a deer soul i picked up

[knotty moon]

Go to the Nightfold, open the Armory, point at a weapon, right click (there is a prompt on the tooltip for the gamepad, dunno the button).

[glacial arch]

kk lemme try thank you

do you need to be a crertain level

[knotty moon]

Not that I know.

[glacial arch]

ok thanks

[knotty moon]

To be clear.

[meager mango]

Hello guys sorry to interrupt, Does anyone have any idea about when the game gotta be out for Xbox ?

[orchid remnant]

side note

love the outfit giving elf lotr

[knotty moon]

Not shortly would be my guess.
Whenever it gets out of the Preludes phase, and we have no idea when that ends.

[meager mango]

Hopefully soon i really wanna try it out

[tough robin]

is that normal?

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440103546900185108

[tough robin]

I'm trapped inside the bell

[knotty moon]

Open the chat and type "/unstuck".

[tough robin]

xd?

[normal sail]

prop hunt in soulframe

[tough robin]

XD

[knotty moon]

\o/
All that could be scanned has been scanned.

[normal sail]

gee i like the glimmering rabbit vs the regular rabbit

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[knotty moon]

One is a fluffy pet, the other is the Beast of Caerbannog.

[upper osprey]

this gives me Terpeth District ?

[knotty moon]

That's just a quest specific to Hilly-Den's entrance.
Terpeth is simply a tile, you can get that randomly.

[upper osprey]

i think i made this..

this is the only avakot lost?

[vocal pumice]

small question is there a limited time for the playtest?

[knotty moon]

Nope, once you are in, you are in.

[zenith knoll]

so Aurem Canus is basically soulframe's rough equivalent of the library of alexandria, or even Wikipedia

[upper osprey]

just to not run in circles, when i get into terpeth and forgotten refuge, there will be an indicator, like a mote or something like that? or nope?

[knotty moon]

The location name will show up on the top of the screen, like any other location.

[glacial eagle]

is there a way to farm for any thrice blessed by iris is joineries? i’ve literally ever only gotten one and i frankly don’t remember how

[knotty moon]

If all else fails, Children of Alca should sell them.

[glacial eagle]

what rank do i need to be?

[knotty moon]

4 or 5 I think, not quite sure.

[glacial eagle]

welp, that’ll have to work then

[upper osprey]

the only way to get fables now is from a world tree?

another thing im crafting the talisman with the 3. i can get the separate ones again ?

[frosty condor]

hey guys, so I just made an account on the website, do I now just have to wait around until they send me an email saying that I can become a play tester?

[knotty moon]

From world trees you get Votives, which are either Faction Tales, one off stories, or Operations (Sieges/Organ/The Collector, all can be started without going to the tree first).
Fables are generally more cinematic and have each a specific way to start them.

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[upper osprey]

Oh, right, they're called votives now, got it

[knotty moon]

Yes, or you could follow one of the other methods here:
#gameplay-discussion message
Particularly the next stream is on Friday, check the events section for local time (also remember to link the accounts if you are going for it).

[tardy veldt]

I havent played in a couple months. Anyone have a good video to explain the recnt updates?

[knotty moon]

Best bet is to read the patch notes of the main updates (not the hotfixes, save for the current ones).

[tardy veldt]

Alright, thanks!

[sturdy phoenix]

is anyone else having issues getting Runes to proc? I cant seem to trigger this for the quest

[knotty moon]

Charge them by Pulling Smites, then use them with Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack.

[sturdy phoenix]

Ah thank you

[tardy veldt]

what does it mean to "wield a rune in battle"?

[knotty moon]

Equip it, charge it, use it on an enemy.

[tardy veldt]

Q and mouse wheel?

[knotty moon]

Those should be the default binding iirc.

Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack.

[scenic solar]

where are the motes in Rovgot?

[knotty moon]

In the main rooms, where Wazzard speaks.
They spawn on a significant time delay, I suggest fully clearing the dungeon of enemies and then backtracking from the Wyrm.
Current theory is that the Pensive set makes the spawn more common.

[scenic solar]

well i've yet to see any and i've cleared this one completely

[knotty moon]

Try spamming Spectral Sight + Light Attack, sometimes I absorbed them without seeing them.

[scenic solar]

still the golden cloud things in there, right?

[knotty moon]

Yep.

[fallow arch]

whats the reset on sieges?

[wet tulip]

3 hours

[fallow arch]

reeee

[spice silo]

Does anyone have any suggestions? i am currnetly stuck trying to get a door open while looking for that deer

[regal stone]

which house in luminns is orlick's dorm?

[fallow arch]

its not in luminns

[regal stone]

...then whats the point of saying its in luminns 😭

oh i found the quest marker

[fallow arch]

not a clue, it does say luminns

but its southeast of the college of pensives

like thats kinda far DE

the bottom middle of the image is where its actually at

its too bad we cant waypoint to get distances

[young igloo]

is it still possible to taxi some one to the secret island tree?

[dusty hatch]

Why would wearing a specific armor do anything for the mote spawns? There can't be any unintended coded connection in such a case, so why would it work like that?
Insane what people come up with.

Delayed spawns though feels like a possible situation. There has to be a reason I almost never have the motes spawn, even when relogging before each run. I will try running the dungeon back each time before resetting.

[tulip geyser]

do the prelude codes via twitch drops have a certain time window? or is it any time you watch a soulframe stream?

[dusty hatch]

So far, anytime you catch them online for 30 minutes (dev stream/envoy hour), you get a code into your account that stays there until redeemed. Just have to have twitch account linked to soulframe account and redeem the drop on twitch.

[tulip geyser]

I have access, would i be able to give the code to a friend if i get one from twitch drops?

[upbeat cradle]

yes

[upbeat cradle]

yeah the codes stay active forever, like my friend gave me a 5 month old code and that's how i got in

[half talon]

If they are still in your account management, they are still available to use.

[orchid vale]

So far, about 15 minutes of play in, my gosh. Gorgeous game.

Much optimization to be done, but wow.

[fallow arch]

yea the pensive set things a myth

3 runs with no motes and I did relog, steve starting myths in his own game bruh

[proper crystal]

well i went from 0 motes in 10 runs to 2 motes a run every 3 or so runs

the spawn trigger is either bugged or just not guaranteed

or both

[fallow arch]

ye and pensive set either doesnt help or 2x0=0

[proper crystal]

well everyone i've heard from has said they only got spawns with it on

and you haven't provided any evidence to the contrary

[fallow arch]

I did 3 runs no motes and I'm wearing the set

[proper crystal]

did you get any without it?

also minimum statistical sample size is ~30

[fallow arch]

I cant prove that it actually does anything

[proper crystal]

sure you can

[fallow arch]

as far as I can tell this is some hold down + B to catch pokemon easier

[proper crystal]

run 30 runs without it, then 30 runs with it and compare

[fallow arch]

if I get it without I cant prove with

[proper crystal]

and in doing so will have proven it isn't true

[fallow arch]

I'd need to make a new account

[lavish heath]

Elooo

[hexed spoke]

i dont have proof but i never wore the pensive set and i have 1 mote from the new dungeon

[proper crystal]

the first one?

that's guaranteed every run until you grab it?

[hexed spoke]

ahh the first one is free? if so yeah

[fallow arch]

no motes

[hexed spoke]

that explains why i havent gotten 1 since then

[proper crystal]

congratulations, you have proven that it is not guaranteed

[dusty hatch]

I have 3 motes and never once put on the pensive armor set. I feel like the text is more of a general suggestion to follow ones adventurous nature or something, not a hidden armor set bonus.

[real quartz]

A lot of the time for me it's taking multiple minutes for the mote to spawn

[proper crystal]

how many runs is that in

[fallow arch]

dont even know where the hell they would even spawn in that room

[dusty hatch]

Like 50-80? But for the longest time I didn't relog and just repeated the dungeon instantly over and over, which might not spawn new motes. And if they indeed spawn in late, speed running the dungeon is the issue, not the armor.

[proper crystal]

i'm inclined to believe it's bugged either way

[dusty hatch]

I mean, it's definitely not working like the overworked motes work. No pop up at the top of the screen with 1-3 motes crawling over the locations name, indicating exactly how many motes spawned into the instance.

[hexed spoke]

im curious, where did the theory come from?
i havent seen anything designed in this game that can only be obtained by wearing a certain something, not unless the game legit tells you to do so

[hexed spoke]

ahh

[fallow arch]

also you cant fight mestra boss without the blue ribbon hat

[hexed spoke]

that makes sense then

[hexed spoke]

yeah but the game tells you to wear it during the quest

[wind ether]

which quest is it?

[hexed spoke]

the duello story quest

[fallow arch]

the way it is currently is supposedly the pensive set helps, you also need to relog though

after every dungeon run

[hexed spoke]

good thing i read this here, i wouldnt have noticed kek, so thats why i never got motes after the first one. more stuff to do till d4 expac hits

[fallow arch]

its just for this stuff

[wind ether]

what , duello story takes you to rovgot ruins when the hell did that happen ?

i did the mission never did i go to fallen sky tower .

[hexed spoke]

guess you misunderstood,
i was pertaining to a part where the game tells you to wear something for something to start/spawn

[wind ether]

aah i see , i asked why people are going looking for motes in the tower just for collection or is there some quest .

[hexed spoke]

im guessing just completion stuff, dunno if this one gives mastery, but area motes usually do.

[fallow arch]

guess I need to relog for my relog to relog so the motes spawn

[hexed spoke]

relogception

[fallow arch]

someone even suggested that bestitching might interfere with the cloak

more accurate to just say, it broke

[hexed spoke]

man for these things i wish the devs actually confirm it kek
if its bugged i mean. but someone might be reading kek

[cloud palm]

What virtues should I prioritize with Ode Tempest

Im using Basker's and Seathorn but Im thinking replacing it with Silvstaf since I am running a Courage/Spirit prism

[fallow arch]

each virtue boosts its respective skill

[unkempt gull]

How does leveling up in this game work bc I'm pretty sure I beat something that I wasn't supposed to yet...out of smite

Like smite bc I'm stubborn

[upper osprey]

there is motes on this place?

[upper osprey]

you mean lvl up gear or envoy lvl?

[unkempt gull]

Uh...I...think envoy? The number next to my name

[mild palm]

envoy lvl doesnt make a difference with regards to enemy level. Its like Warframe's master ranks.

[upper osprey]

level up gear and find some locations, your map will have some weird names, discover the names by smiting the golden thinggies.

[dire python]

is there a weapon playstyle based around blocks/parries/counters?

[unkempt gull]

Mmm never played Warframe....🫪🫪

[mild palm]

basically just bragging rights right now

[upper osprey]

the level affects how much courage/grace/spirit you gain with the system, right?

[unkempt gull]

Ohh that's what that is

[upper osprey]

with the prism system*

[mild palm]

your weapon level and pact level is where enemy level comes into play more

not combat art level, mind you. I mean the specific weapon you have equiped rank

[unkempt gull]

Okay so that number doesn't really matter

[mild palm]

next to your envoy name? not really. It will go up as you max rank on items

[fallow arch]

how am I supposed to get the explodey plant dudes in the codex?

[unkempt gull]

I see....okay

Thanks you....

[wind ether]

you will find them in midrath around the map here and there but i dnt think you can pull smites on them though.

[wind ether]

your envoy ranks matters , it helps you get more virtue points in the prisms . the more points you can get the better you are overall , helps you make different build with different pacts and weapons .

[fallow arch]

ye but they are in the codex though

[unkempt gull]

So basically just keep playing and it will come into play...

[wind ether]

if you dnt have enough points you gonna be stuck with same bunch of pacts and weapons coz you wnt have enough points to use them

[wind ether]

exactly , keep playing , play new pacts , new weapons , gather mots ( memories from different places ).

[wind ether]

ikr .dnt have it either

[unkempt gull]

There's a lot for my tiny brain

[wind ether]

dnt worry there is no rush or race , play at your own pace , explore have fun

things will increase automatically , just dnt stay stuck with same pacts and weapons aftr they are maxxed out , try different stuff

[unkempt gull]

I haven't even gotten a rune yet lol

[mild palm]

basically, don't worry about the envoy level. play wiith pacts and weapons to rank 30 and it will go up with time

[unkempt gull]

Someone showed me where they were at and I lost it

Shown sounds better

[wind ether]

which runes ?? the basic runes you get just by taming animals which you can see all aorund map

[mild palm]

Totem and rune assignment is next to your weapon in your loadout screen in nightfold

[unkempt gull]

The big circle rune....unless I've been aiming for the wrong thing again

[wind ether]

the bigger ones drops from agaris or bosses , but you should think about those later not now , but go for those animals get them runes

[unkempt gull]

I'm trying lol all these damn animals are for other classes

[wind ether]

gotta catch em all XD

[mild palm]

Supposed to get a rune from absorbing the Fenn spirit in the beginning, no? I believe that is a recent change.

[unkempt gull]

The baby man just told me to get a rune

[fallow arch]

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