gameplay-discussion

[wet tulip]

anyone else noticing math not mathing on some weapons dmg cap xD?

for example how can odiac reach 128 dmg when its base dmg is 32

shouldnt it be 112 dmg cap?

[vagrant kayak]

The damage buffs that used to be on Joineries now get added as you level the weapon so the base damage at 30 is higher than it is at 0

[wet tulip]

that isnt the case with all weapons though

thats what i mean

take marrows bane for example too

base dmg is 54 and dmg cap is 189

math adds up there

but on odiac? theres a 16 dmg bonus from somewhere

[vagrant kayak]

Yeah the Joinery damage, your Marrow's Bane is level 0

[wet tulip]

i took the pic from the premium shop to show the base dmg

[vagrant kayak]

And what's the damage on a level 30?

[wet tulip]

so you mean marrows bane doesnt get the bonus dmg from joineries?

[wet tulip]

like i told you 189 dmg cap

which adds up to the base dmg of 54 calculation

meanwhile some weapons go beyond the dmg cap

[vagrant kayak]

It should do but the whole Joinery conversion has been buggy so there may be some numbers missing or added somewhere

[wet tulip]

same with dewelion

but base dmg is 48 which indicates it should be 168 dmg cap

[lament nacelle]

3 star weapons have a higher cap

[vagrant kayak]

They do but the calculation for that cap should still be the same across all weapons

[wet tulip]

odiac is 2 star

still doesnt explain xD

theres clearly a math not mathing moment

some numbers behind the scene

[gleaming vortex]

i wonder if its coz hybrid attun

[lament nacelle]

maybe since each virtue scales differently like how Grace has a higher scaling multiplier than the others

[wet tulip]

my odiac is spirit/courage only so most likely grace doesnt do the trick here

i will try the hybrid scaling theory

[lament nacelle]

thats true

[gleaming vortex]

like p14 has new 5 pip cap so it cuold be they let hybrid attun weapon has higher cap

[wet tulip]

and change my marrows bane to be hybrid to see

[native drum]

is there a guide to show you where you can get materials from?

or just google it is the best?

[wet tulip]

you got wiki website/ or ingame codex system where you unlock it by smite pull from enemies

for example

[lament nacelle]

once you start unlocking your codex entries, you will have all the info you will need, but in the meantime, the Avakot weabsite has all the info for you

[native drum]

oh shit I didnt even see this I must of missed it

[lament nacelle]

have you done the Orlick quests with this Prelude?

[wet tulip]

yea P14 added more stuff to the journal

[native drum]

uhhhh is there a way to see?

[wet tulip]

go to orlick and check xD

[lament nacelle]

probably not then since you gotta talk to Orlick to start them

its a whole questline that unlocks alot of journal and Soul Sight stuff

[native drum]

the last quest I did was fight the bear that I remember and then I was doing kiths quest things

[gleaming vortex]

wait 32*2.5+25+24=129 , isnt it lose one damage instead higher

[wet tulip]

thats not how you calculate it

[gleaming vortex]

explain

[wet tulip]

the +25 dmg from the joineries was simply added to the base 24 bonus with lvl up

[native drum]

oh I did orlick I just ran around and saw him I forgot this guys name but yeah I did it

[carmine cypress]

What reforge better to do for Seathorn in P14? I am a little bit confused...

[wet tulip]

dmg cap calculation goes only from the base dmg

[gleaming vortex]

thats how i calculat

[wet tulip]

by calculation it should be 32+ x2.5

thats it which amounts to 112

[gleaming vortex]

cap is 1.5

plus 32 is 2.5

[wet tulip]

i skipped a math step

[lament nacelle]

okay so yeah, go to your Nighthold and talk to Orlick to get started

[wet tulip]

by doing x2.5 its simple a + 150%

[gleaming vortex]

ok cap is 32*1.5=45 45+32=80 80+49=129

so max damage is 129

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/disney-frozen-review-WrNfErHio7ZAc

let me show you an example on a wep that actually works

since odiac aint mathing

take marrows bane for example

54 is base dmg

when you calculate the +150%

you do 54x1.5 and add another 54 to it

making it a x2.5

[gleaming vortex]

yes and plus 49

[wet tulip]

the +49 is simply a bonus to lvl up

it doesnt affect the dmg cap

[gleaming vortex]

but it shows max damage in UI u need to add it

UI is not shouwing only atuun cap

[wet tulip]

on marrows bane its 54+ 135( the 150%+)= 189

which adds up

[gleaming vortex]

marrows bane is 54*2.5 +25+24

[wet tulip]

which goes to 184 xD

[gleaming vortex]

atuun cap is 54*1.5=81 81 is attun cap not 189

[wet tulip]

but the dmg cap is 189

[gleaming vortex]

yes marrows bane is +5 damage from no where

[wet tulip]

like im telling you

math aint mathing

by normal standards weapon dmg CAP

getting calculated only by base dmg and the + 150%

thats it . you dont add in the 24+25

[gleaming vortex]

no u nned to

UI is showing total damage not only attun cap

[wet tulip]

...

the UI simply shows you the bonus dmg you get

the numbers in the (xx) doesnt affect the dmg cap

since the dmg cap can never change its the top dmg you can reach on a specific weapon

joineries +25 was simply helping reach the dmg cap by needing less virtue points

[gleaming vortex]

"Keep in mind that, for weapons, the value in the parenthesis is not only Attunement, but also bonus damage from leveling and Joineries."

[wet tulip]

i dont think you understand what dmg CAP is

[gleaming vortex]

damage cap is base+ attun cap +leveling bonus+25

and thats how UI showing

[wet tulip]

the lvling bonus isnt 24 anymore its 49

the +25 from joineries which got removed was added to the lvling bonus

[gleaming vortex]

i just split it for clear

its 49 if add up

[wet tulip]

just saying

as it stands now. marrows banes dmg cap is 189

and if you do 54+ (150%+)135=189

without counting that +49

[lament nacelle]

wait.. thought... is the calculation only telling us HOW MUCH each pip can give us? Cause thats what my brain is reading

[dusky socket]

This was driving me crazy the other day lol

I thought I was losing my mind 😂😂

[wet tulip]

the +49 is simply helping you to reach the dmg cap

[lament nacelle]

oh ok

[wet tulip]

dmg cap doesnt change

the amount of virtue points needed does

[lament nacelle]

gotcha

[dusky socket]

Some other weapons also have a random +5 dmg out of nowhere, too

[wet tulip]

odiac got a +16

[dusky socket]

Wtf...XD

[wet tulip]

base dmg 32

which implies it should be dmg cap 112

[lament nacelle]

now are these weapons that have the strange math coming from weapons that you had already had your joineries on BEFORE the update and havent changed cause of it? Or are they like... new weapons

[wet tulip]

meanwhile

[gleaming vortex]

like i said odiac damage cap is 32*2.5+25+24=129

is doesnt get more damage

[wet tulip]

which doesnt add up xD

since you cant go more then 128 lol

[gleaming vortex]

like marrow bane doesnt add up to , but thats how u calculate max damage

[wet tulip]

meanwhile with marrows bane the calculation of 54+135=189 add up

[gleaming vortex]

i just math

[lament nacelle]

so if you were to drink a courage potion for more virtue points, the damage doesnt change?

[wet tulip]

which is essentially 54+ (x2.5)=189

[gleaming vortex]

no thats not how u calculate it

u just simply base*3.5 which is wrong

[wet tulip]

dmg cap doesnt change

[knotty imp]

oh god not the mathmaxxing in general

[lament nacelle]

man all i know is number big means stick do more hurty

[wet tulip]

this is what happens when DE dont give us the full numbers

[native drum]

am I dumb or can you not add and subtract virtue points? (I'm probable just dumb)

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/FarCryGame-ubisoft-far-cry-6-PacQUjx7vwEBJLszzc

[knotty imp]

game will be out of preludes only once we have ui elements for everything lulz

[lament nacelle]

that got changed for Prisms. check your enclaves for all the new prisms

[dusky socket]

Well, sometimes you'll get a ~1 difference because it's really: Base + (Base x 1.5) + 24 + 25. We just do Base x 2.5 cuz it's easier.

[native drum]

ahh I see I was looking every where for the the + and - button and I was like where df is it

[gleaming vortex]

thats how i calculate too

and sometimes it just dont add up

[wet tulip]

and then math not mathing xD

why its major confusion rn

[dusky socket]

Yeah, the math don't math lol. I spent like 5 hours putting together a build calculator and, finally realized it's impossible atm 🤦🏻‍♂️

[gleaming vortex]

not really confuse, just has minor diff

like -5 ~+5

[next remnant]

The indvidual points was a lot of micromanaging without much gain

[lament nacelle]

i will never understand how people math...(actually have a legal learning disability for math)

[next remnant]

I much prefer the prisms

I mean a lot of maths people are bad at explaining maths too

to this day I have no idea how the damage reduction on eidolons works because the equation on the warframe wiki is too complicated

[dusky socket]

Like every math professor in college 😂😂😂

[wet tulip]

lolz

[next remnant]

Those are the people I expect to be better than that 🙁

[dusky socket]

"Just trust me, this is maff"

[gleaming vortex]

i just saw its 28, if its 30 it will be 129

[lament nacelle]

I agree, it really makes having the talismans and skillpoints from pacts more than just a dump to get more of a stat, you gotta manage them to actually hit the requirements now

[gleaming vortex]

which is what i calcualte

[wet tulip]

it wont xD i had it maxed before it was still 128

[gleaming vortex]

then odiac is -1 then

hope de gonna give us more number in ui

[next remnant]

Bah. I prefer less numbers

[gleaming vortex]

for weapons only

[next remnant]

Helldivers 2 went downhill when arrowhead caved and exposed the numbers the dataminers insisted were important to know

[wet tulip]

or atleast hidden numbers you can see with a click of a button so the "flavor" doesnt change

[next remnant]

I see more red symbols, I know red number makes weapon gooder

[dusky socket]

Numbers on the Prisms themselves would be helpful so you don't have to actually equip them to see what your virtues would be

[wet tulip]

i still think best possible way for prisms to work

[next remnant]

Well... I mean it's trivial to switch them when you're already in that screen

[lament nacelle]

blue also makes weapon gooder

[wet tulip]

is make a triangle slider and prisms just give different passives

[lament nacelle]

but only if weapon has blue

[next remnant]

Weapons come with colours, match colours to make weapon good

[lament nacelle]

i would actually not mind this. like the prism has like enchantments on them to boost a virtue or give you other stats or effects. maybe even cosmetic ones

[next remnant]

I like the prisms just the way ther are now

Pick a stat spread and go from there

[wet tulip]

which DE said will happen eventually

like imagine the confusion when you will have 20+ prisms with different passives and different virtue allocation xD

would be much simpler to have a triangle slider for virtue allocation and prisms just give specific passives that help you go with what build you want

[next remnant]

That would be less obnoxious than the +- sliders

[graceful cedar]

How do i complete the rite?

[wet tulip]

go to the grave yard and use spectral sight to interact with the grave stones

[graceful cedar]

ty

[native drum]

should I be saving my crypt keys or using them now? I only got 15 of them

[next remnant]

I've yet to use them all up. they drop in manifold quantity

[native drum]

I see

thats good to know

[wet tulip]

see xD

[gleaming vortex]

well it still not lose damage like u said

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ still mass confussion

[gleaming vortex]

and max damage is 129 not 112

[wet tulip]

literally all weapons dont match

[gleaming vortex]

well some of it

[native drum]

forgetfire set worth making or wait and make something else? (courage build)

[smoky crater]

i'd say worth it

sure you'll find better ones too but it's not bad

• more fashion options

[native drum]

was wondering because I saw the Mendicant King Set and Circade Set but was not sure how hard they would be to get

[smoky crater]

circade set you get pre-crafted from completing 2 puzzles in the crypts, mendicant king set just drops from mendicant king himself which can be a pain but usually not too big

[native drum]

yeah I saw that but I decided not to look up anything so I didnt know how hard the puzzles would be or the fight

[smoky crater]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1445732147452444802 here's for the puzzle
it was added as a community puzzle so not something you were intended to solve on your own but you can do the puzzle on your own still.

well first part anyway

2nd part is something you can figure out on your own but it's gonna take a good while

[native drum]

mhmm I might give it a try or two and see how it goes also if I dont meet the virtue requirements does it make the wepon weaker? or how does that work I just made the sollos but only 11/13 virtue

[smoky crater]

it doesn't make it weaker. you just don't get the attunement bonus damage

[native drum]

ahhhso I need to level up 2 more time

[smoky crater]

that or get a talisman that gives 2 more courage points oooor upgrade your pacts upgrade trees point that gives you Courage points

[native drum]

oh shit thanks for that not going to lie I forgot to upgrade my pact

went from 11 to 16

[smoky crater]

ooo noice

[wispy hare]

Guys ? Can someone explain me how to charge my archstorm ?

[wet tulip]

pull smite from enemies

[wispy hare]

Because of this

[sturdy nova]

"Wield a Rune in battle":

[vagrant kayak]

When enemies glow red, blue or green you can use Spectral Sight (hold Q/L2/LT) and Light Attack (LMB/R1/RB) to Smite them, this will give you one Rune charge which you can expend by doing a charged Heavy Attack (hold down MMB/R2/RT)

Should be noted this will (likely) be changed to Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack in a future hotfix

[novel ivy]

Hotfix that is supposed to come out today tbf

[wispy hare]

and now ?

i already cast them and nothing happens

[gusty sky]

charged heavy attack until they change it next hotfix to soulmode + heavy

[novel ivy]

Charged heavy

[wispy hare]

heavy with a staff ?

[gusty sky]

Yes. with your staff

charged heavy

[wispy hare]

thanks

[forest vector]

can someone explain about this quest? I don't know what to do.

[smoky crater]

[forest vector]

i did but nothing happen.

[gusty sky]

IIRC it's also presently bugged with p14

so you're doing the right thing, just the latest update borked it.

[forest vector]

so i can't continue this quest until DE fix it?

[gusty sky]

Pre-alpha things I guess

i think you might be able to just run and dip without doing this tutorial section though

[forest vector]

i see. thanks for the information, i'll try to do other stuffs while waiting for them to fix it.

much appreciate 🫡

[sinful scarab]

he’s not part of any quest iirc, they just randomly mention that you can do it

[smoky crater]

He is

[sinful scarab]

really?

[smoky crater]

That part specifically only happens during Torment Stag

[sinful scarab]

yeah but not an objective, if you walk a little bit away from him, the bird will guide you to the exit

[smoky crater]

It's an optional objective

[sinful scarab]

hmm, i guess, i just skip through when i replay it

[smoky crater]

Lul

[gusty sky]

it is specifically part of the quest where orlick mentions you can do it. but presently orlick is incorrect as it is right now bugged, rip orlick...

[knotty imp]

orlick is indeed deceased, correct

[gusty sky]

He's going to become a ghost-ghost

[wide stag]

I ran into this the other day when I accidentally restarted this quest (I thought I had to complete it again for a later quest step but I didn't lmao)

Just keep following the path behind the shade once it stops moving, you should get some dialog and the quest should resume

[knotty moon]

Somehow, this is the first time I notice Verminia's rats glow in Spectral Sight.

[wispy hare]

Am i stupid or just unlucky ?

[smoky crater]

Wut mean?

Iirc you need to charm like 3-5 squirrels to complete the entry

[knotty moon]

Also note that the Journal is bugged right now, if you log out only one scan from the previous session will save.
Either complete it in one go, or log out after each squirrel.

[smoky crater]

Huh

[wispy hare]

heavy breath

[knotty moon]

Bugframe week.

[wispy hare]

and where can i find squirrels ?

[knotty moon]

Basically everywhere but the coasts and towns.
On rivers the spawn is reduced since Beavers and Ducks will share spawn space.

[wispy hare]

okay

thanks

[rigid condor]

Do we have confirmed which rank of Miri drops Espadarte?

[knotty moon]

I can confirm it drops from B rank.

[rigid condor]

How do you achieve B rank

[sly escarp]

Die once

Kill all enemies

[knotty moon]

One death, then full clear.

[rigid condor]

Cool thanks

[quartz kestrel]

Hi anyone having issues with the journal of the foes and animal that is not tracking properly or losing progress?

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message

[quartz kestrel]

Thx

[swift schooner]

Did the Lyke-Wake drop rate improvements include them now dropping from the goop spawning enemies? Or still only static spawned enemies in second room?

[knotty moon]

Not yet, that is scheduled for the next hotfix.

[dusky socket]

Still only 2nd spawn, should be fixed in today's hotfix

[swift schooner]

I will hold off further farming till then 😂

[knotty moon]

Uh, does Wevetwood Sap drop from the Neath'uns now?

[zenith knoll]

not to my knowledge? you still harvest it from trees

[knotty moon]

New enemy type, Stealth Sinecure.

[opal fable]

in the codex there is a second wazzard wizard dude, where do i find this one

[knotty moon]

Waste Bear fable for one (log out before killing him to keep scanning), Agari for the other.

[supple elm]

how to get mestra gear? I only got pants yesterday. Now I'm running on beaches and no more rapiers in the ground

[knotty moon]

They have a 2h cd, otherwise you should be able to find more.

There is a map floating around.

[opal fable]

man having to farm a quest is a bit rough

[fleet axle]

Yeah it lost my progress bc the game crashed 🥲

How do I get the deer man gear? I have one piece only

[opal fable]

ive seen it drop from the stag

[fleet axle]

I have one of 4 pieces needed. I can’t fight it again

[opal fable]

it can spawn randomly at night or as a tale objectives

[fleet axle]

Oh so bosses can random spawn in overworld? Or do I have to go back to the same grove?

[opal fable]

the stag can spawn during the night yeah. it has a bunch of fixed points around the map where it can spawn

only once per night tho

when i was farming it i just checked the trees for quests which had it as an objective

[dry summit]

how do i get more potions? other than drops?

[opal fable]

avakot sometimes sells them, not very worth it

[knotty moon]

I think you can buy them from Avakot.

[opal fable]

usually the best idea is just to kill some easy enemies

[knotty moon]

Or open chests, you can find potions inside them too.

[tiny loom]

I using my runes in a fight and it’s not counting?

[sly escarp]

You're using the Heavy Attack while it has a charge to activate it?

[tiny loom]

Yep

Tried unequiping and reequiping it before the fight as well

[smoky crater]

You need to activate it 5 times total iirc

[tiny loom]

Ah

[fleet axle]

Once per in game night? I’ll have to check a spawn location map if there is one up yet

[smoky crater]

Shows the count everytime when you actually activate the rune

[smoky crater]

Once per night as a natural spawn yeah

[opal fable]

i think its easier to just relog near a spawn point

[smoky crater]

Ones from faction tales can be fought multiple times if you happen to find tales with them

Those also dont need night iirc

[opal fable]

there is a tree you can relog quickly next to and just roll quests over and over until you get a stag, but its very boring

[fleet axle]

Idk where the spawn points are lmao

[fleet axle]

We can fight the bosses again from faction guys?

[smoky crater]

Yyyyyes

[edgy bridge]

What do you think, will DE add piercing damage type for rapiers?

[scenic ledge]

Is anyone using Thistle having issues with their rune? My friend's doesn't seem to be charging up even though she's been killing enemies for 10min, so she can't use it and progress Orlick's quest

[vagrant kayak]

Runes charge on Smite not on kill

[scenic ledge]

Ooooh didn't know that thank you!

Aha, she didn't know/remember how to do it so she hasn't been using Smite at all. Mystery solved

[midnight hare]

no se que hacer con eso x.x

[undone prawn]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[halcyon thicket]

Nightfold

[fallen orchid]

(If you're solo) slip into the nightfold then back, standing next to the crate & it'll drop loot. IDK how to break 'em in multiplayer tho, nightfold doesn't seem to work.

[primal stump]

ok, question, anyone knows how exactly the defensive buff on tethren works? the wiki is not really helping

[vagrant kayak]

Please keep chat in English Envoy

[exotic ice]

if you use a +2 Joinery on a weapon at max rank, then re-master it, and it has the gold-trimmed pip for the primary stat, does it get the +30 attack the same way a thrice-blessed joinery does, for remastering it?

[gusty sky]

5 pips is the max, so if you hit the gold icon at +2 then +3 doesnt' do anything.

[exotic ice]

yeah but the +30 for re-mastering a thrice-blessed weapon, does that apply to a once or twice-blessed weapon, or thrice only?

[sly escarp]

Wait, but Joineries don't add damage anymore?

[exotic ice]

no, they add attunement pips

[sly escarp]

Yeah. So not sure what you mean by 30 bonus damage?

[exotic ice]

but remastering a thrice-blessed weapon seems to add +30 damage to the weapon's final damage when it's re-mastered, no?

[gusty sky]

if you have 3 already, adding 2 is the max you should add, because 3 doesn't do anything.

[sly escarp]

The damage from joineries was moved to be extra damage from levelling a weapon

As far as we know, there shouldn't be a bonus from relevelling.

[gusty sky]

you don't gain anything from a thrice, if a twice hits the gold pip already. (Spirit is bugged and doesn't show the gold pip, but same principle there function wise)

[exotic ice]

i see

[sly escarp]

*bugged and shows the gold pip at 6

[iron falcon]

does the new dungeon drop anything else new besides cenotaph?

[zenith knoll]

lyke-wake fragments on some specific mobs there (I would advise waiting for the next hotfix before farming that tho)

[dusky socket]

Hotfix should be today 🙏

[gusty sky]

enemies in it drop the new sword and shield, but is bugged and not as many are dropping as they should, (should be fixed next hotfix)

[sly escarp]

Lyke Wake can be gotten from Mendicant Soldiers inside, but the drops are bugged and will be fixed next hotfix

[iron falcon]

yeah I got 0 there so not bothering, better to keep doing organs as I still need to get the wazard clothes

[lament cradle]

• Look for a soul-stored in the Midrath plains.
• Look for a dew spore in the Midrath plains.

I don't know where on the game map I can find those materials; I only have two acorns left for the journey between the World Trees.

[gusty sky]

dewspore spawns in caves and stuff, (like hillyden) and there's also a soul flower in hillyden that spawns. But they generally spawn in the corrupted areas.

[lament cradle]

hmm i gonna try in corrupted areas

thanks

[ancient granite]

i wonder if we will ever get diferent attack combos with the wepons

[sinful scarab]

managed to separate the camera from the character, makeshift photo mode

[knotty imp]

frame minus soul

[brazen sparrow]

you tried to shoot me.. rude..

[spare badge]

Shoot 'em back. We have them trying to shoot us on tape. Clear case of self defense...

[sinful scarab]

no no, i was showing you how i can shoot a fish without looking, i was using your eyes as a mirror, (you can see the bullet on the right hit the water)

[brazen sparrow]

... as you were... i'm watching you...

[dusky socket]

I need this tech lol

[brazen sparrow]

Man, captura/camera mode was one of the earliest things we asked for in the old discord too. Hope to still see something, eventually

[gusty sky]

my honest reaction...

[brazen sparrow]

heh, it would make for a good "same as it ever was"-like template

[knotty imp]

will we get photo mode before mounts

[gusty sky]

well, they're the same in that pic, so this would be more fitting.

[sinful scarab]

sorry i can't share this one, it has a side effect and that side effect DE would consider it an exploit

[plucky grove]

where do i learn a rune

[dusky socket]

You need to acquire a rune, equip it to weapon, and then you'll be directed to use it in battle a number of times

Runes are dropped by bosses, mainly. What weapon type are you using?

[plucky grove]

bet ty

and what do they mean by wield a rune in batlle?

[regal shadow]

do some world bosses and sieges, get lucky enough for a rune to drop and apply it to your weapon, then you charge it via smite

[ripe bone]

annihilate the fools that dare stand before you with the might of everflame

[regal shadow]

(sieges have near guaranteed rune drop btw if you dont have one already)

[opal fable]

was there an update recently?

[regal shadow]

yes, p14, last week

[opal fable]

no i mean as in hotfix in the last few hours

launcher had to download a bit but i saw no patchnotes

[ripe bone]

there was hotfix 2 but aside from that no

[regal shadow]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1495887700379566110 this is the last hotfix

[plucky grove]

uh?

[ripe bone]

bop em with a charged heavy after a smite with the rune weapon

[plucky grove]

bet ty

what a smite i dont get it

[dusky socket]

Enemy center/face glows red/green/blue, hold Q + Left Click, it will do a little animation

Adds 1-2 charges to your rune, shown around your 2nd skill

Every attack has a chance to Smite an enemy

[ripe bone]

DE really needs a video tutorial to show how to smite

[opal fable]

have they said anything about motes in the new dungeon? they feel extremely rare for 8 of them

[plucky grove]

ty

[dusky socket]

The dungeon is currently just a preview

[plucky grove]

is that only from attacking cause maybe my RNG is terrible but like i dont get much smite

[gusty sky]

weapons each have their own smite rate

it's a stat they have

[knotty moon]

Well, guess Avakot doesn't want my Baskbulbs then.
Fine I'll take them to the Roses.

[plucky grove]

oh alr ty

[minor cave]

Anyone have any issues with the first quest in Orlick's saga ? My birb will not lead me anywhere

[spare badge]

Plus, you can get totems for increasing smite on regular attacks and heavy attaks, and for adding smite chance to kicks.

[amber lance]

you cant sell the last one, just max it out and reduce it by 1

[knotty moon]

Was already doing that, needed to sell a few less, guess I was a t the cap.

[orchid remnant]

hey idk if I'm in the right place for this question but I'm kind of stuck atm I need Verminia to be rank 2 but my cloudquell is bugged? I have all the materiel I need to make it but it keeps telling me I'm missing material and I need the potion she have in rank two for my runes any one know what to do would be greatly appreciated

[spare badge]

Since when? I could all of every type of token to Fenn last night.

[amber lance]

since that's what works for me

[knotty moon]

Do you have the money?

In alternative you could seek the Factions and buy the colors and stat potions recipes.

[amber lance]

this game is just a collection of bugs it doesn't surprise me at all that it works differently for you

[orchid remnant]

yea almost 3 grand on me

[orchid remnant]

its saying I need the purple mushroom I have 17 out of the 6 I need

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[visual radish]

Nah yeah that is a bug that can happen

[orchid remnant]

aight bet

[visual radish]

Doesnt look like it always happens but it can

[plucky grove]

what to do with fragment how to use it to transform them into actual item

[spare badge]

Get enough of them and talk to Tuvalkane in your nightfold. She can smith the items, as long as you have the dracs, enough fragments, and the resources needed.

[visual radish]

In other words gotta unlock the crafting table

[plucky grove]

oh alr ty and when do i unlock tuvalkane

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Steelsinger
You will be eventually be guided to her if you don't want spoilers.

[plucky grove]

btw how to imbued your weopon with totem belssing

[knotty moon]

Armory, point at a weapon, right click (no idea about gamepad, but there is a prompt in the tooltip).

[plucky grove]

alr ty

[viscid cargo]

Where is the black smith?? 🙏

[smoky crater]

Look for lightning near the starter area

[viscid cargo]

Alright, thanks.

[zenith knoll]

is it me or does this guy's helmet have lipstick

[viscid cargo]

It does look like it lmao

[zenith knoll]

colonizing planets, destroying ecosystems, enslaving civilizations and looking good doing it #yass

[left wigeon]

trying to figure out what joinery to put on odiac

[viscid cargo]

If this is the black smith then I'm unable to interact with him..

[left wigeon]

most of them seem to make the damage worse

[smoky crater]

None of them do

[left wigeon]

nah thats just a dude

[viscid cargo]

Then where is the real black smith 😭

[left wigeon]

gotta do a lil quest

[smoky crater]

This

For blacksmith

[knotty moon]

Warning, this is cursed, do not open.

[left wigeon]

huh wha

[smoky crater]

I regret everything

[cosmic hull]

its not

[smoky crater]

Oh yeah. Feybalt's bugged. Doesnt give any buffs. Just use gildaur

[left wigeon]

stats is same tho

are they supposed to be the same?

or am i at the cap

[smoky crater]

Could be?

[left wigeon]

put a joinery on it before p14

[smoky crater]

But also seems too low damage for attunement cap

[smoky crater]

Which one?

[left wigeon]

forget

[smoky crater]

Lul

[left wigeon]

not a blessed one

guessing thats why it has the blue pip

[grand island]

These motes are going to make me lose my marbles

[left wigeon]

wonder if its just a visual bug

could try using one of the lesser iridis joineries so it doesn't reset the level

gildaur also says it only works on melees

i think

no they work on seathorn

[grave pumice]

is there pvp?

[knotty moon]

Ragatta pvp yes.
There used to be a pvp enabling debuff, but it is gone as far as I know.

[grave pumice]

so there is pvp awesome

[knotty moon]

To be clear, Ragatta is the Avakot's board game.

[grave pumice]

so there is no player vs player pvp other than a board game?

[knotty moon]

Not atm.

[grave pumice]

are there any plans for it?

[knotty moon]

Not really planed for now either, but they didn't say outright no.

[opal fable]

is there a source somewhere where people are cataloguing where we can find mobs for the codex?

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Journal#Foes
This would be your best bet, but it could use some improvements.
Largely it will do though.

[opal fable]

thanks, it does have some im missing

[viscid cargo]

Turns out I already visited the area with the lighting and it disappeared so I didn't see it, though I was able to complete the quest and get the black smith.

[plucky grove]

where is it?

[fickle lark]

am i the only one getting a weird delay after doing a dodge roll in combat? like my guy is just standing there, cant do any attack for like 1-2 seconds? only felt it after this update

[knotty moon]

Known bug, should be fixed in the next hotfix.

[plucky grove]

?

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message

[visual radish]

Try tracking that in your journal and seeing if your bird guides you

[fickle lark]

good to know, was thinking i had problems with my ps5 controller, switched to mouse today and still same issue

[plucky grove]

guide me wrong im pretty sure

[formal stump]

if you havent sorted by now, logging out and back in did it for me

[zenith knoll]

fun fact: the first Grounded "star" to appear when you use a magick weapon always points to the south

the next ones appear in clockwise order, west then north then east

[lethal tundra]

Playing around with Duelo, won't start coaga until they Rune hot fix is in the game.

[spare badge]

Ran across a weird bug... Went into the fallen skytower from the exit, everything was level 1-5.

Haven't been able to repeat it.

[pure shoal]

just got the sheee, scared out of me, working through wevet wood and the bear audio played and heard stomping, just some basic enemy but still thought the bear rolled up to rock me.

[native drum]

wait question may be dumb but after fighting the waste bear are there any other "main bosses" or it just run around now doing side quest stuff but I swear I have not seen anything (I"m probable dumb)

[pure shoal]

should be duelo

[knotty moon]

Mestra Carmo was just added in this Prelude.

[native drum]

ok I see duelo and carmo are the same uhh so I just run around until I find the quest or some specific?

[knotty moon]

Yeah, you are supposed to find it in the wild, there is a map on spawn points floating around if you do a search.

[spare badge]

check the wiki, under Fables. Make sure you've done everything.

The game isn't linear. You can do a lot of things in varying order.

You can also replay many fables.

[native drum]

yeah everything done I've jsust been doing kiths stuff and the tree quest idk something like that

[grand island]

how the hell do i open this door

theres shit on the other side i know there is

[spare badge]

You don't.

[grand island]

then

how do i get in?

[sly escarp]

That seems to be...Castle Curlail?

If so, you can't.

[grand island]

its not

its turret jotar

[normal sail]

its turret jotar

[spare badge]

No. It's Turret Jotar... #1495887700379566110 message

[sly escarp]

Oh, right, forgot they overhauled it.

Yeah that Siege isn't actually in the game yet. You can get over the wall on some rocks though, not much reason to though.

[normal sail]

yeah there is no siege in Ba Sing Se Turret Jotar

[spare badge]

Since when has "because we can" not been a good eneough reason to go anywhere in this game?

[sly escarp]

Valid lol

[grand island]

then i guess the last mote i need isnt in there

[sly escarp]

It might, those can spawn anywhere close to a ground normal in a set area around the PoI

[knotty moon]

🤔
It might spawn there, not sure.
In any case, if you can't find it after a few minutes it is usually best to relog and then try again.

[grand island]

alright

ive gotten a good chunk of the locations recovered so far

around 20 of them

[zenith knoll]

it could be, though

[spare badge]

Always check the indicatior by the location name. If you see 1-2 mote faces, then there's a (or a pair of) motes there. If not, relog or go into/out of a nearby dungeon.

[grand island]

yeah i know

when i went to the place it indicated it had enough motes to finish it

[zenith knoll]

slightly unrelated but I remember when I was mote hunting, some motes would appear in dungeon exits inaccessible from the outside

looking at you, comber's leve

[spare badge]

Murifuir's the biggest offender.

[zenith knoll]

don't recall having had issues with that one

[knotty moon]

Kairness, still got PTSD...

[zenith knoll]

now kairness could be bs

the motes being nowhere near the place

[spare badge]

Murifuir teased us with motes in the stratosphere and out to sea.

[zenith knoll]

oh damn

guess I got lucky then

[knotty moon]

Or they fixed it.

[arctic cedar]

There are mores in the fallen tower 😇

Motes

[knotty moon]

Extremely rare apparently though.

[zenith knoll]

in the new dungeon you mean?

[arctic cedar]

Apparently not as rare as shield itself cause I got one lol

[zenith knoll]

didnt find any in several dozen runs

[arctic cedar]

Yes, the location is not on the map but it's Oden Skytower

[knotty moon]

The shield is a myth at this point, not rare. 😛

[past burrow]

Thank God no

i hope, this never get a pvp mode

[grave pumice]

Why?

[knotty moon]

They did talk about being interested in something like duels.
Not anytime soon though.

[grave pumice]

It would bring more players to the game, no?

[past burrow]

If it’s like clan duels in Warframe, I’m satisfied. Having it not matter and not focusing on it is the best option, one of their best decisions was to completely abandon that mode.

[past burrow]

pvp players... eh... better not

[grave pumice]

Why do you dis like pvp so much?

[arctic cedar]

Pvp sounds like a terrible idea, but more coop, raids etc. I am looking forward to

[knotty moon]

The main arguments people have against PvP in this game are:
Reduced focus on main gameplay devtime.
Bringing in people with toxic mindset.

[past burrow]

I don’t dislike it, I just don’t think the game needs a mode like that or the kind of player base it brings. I play a lot of competitive games

[plucky grove]

so there no way to fast travel or anything to go faster?

[past burrow]

Yeah, with wevetseed

[pure shoal]

there is, you need the plant that you get from doing arbear

[arctic cedar]

Only pvp I can accept is regatta

[plucky grove]

what taht

[knotty moon]

After Waste Bear a planter is added to the Nightfold (near Verminia), seeds respawn every 12h iirc.
You can use them to fast travel to World Trees and Factions.

[pure shoal]

what dexell said

[plucky grove]

alr ty

[past burrow]

like... pvp players is not necessary in the community, They’re usually players who jump from game to game chasing their dopamine, so they already have plenty of options for that, Soulframe doesn’t need to be one of them.

[pure shoal]

definitly a calmer game

[plucky grove]

alr but im early game so its not for now?

[pure shoal]

i think you can access it at any time

[past burrow]

after get verminia, you get the waste bear quest

[knotty moon]

You can enter and exit the Eternium Gardens (music emote in the Nightfold) and it will put you back near the Faction hubs.

[past burrow]

yeah

[grave pumice]

Crazy it already has 3 factions you could make just like a separate pvp mode entity for people who want to par take and it has the same kind of classes and faction system as new world and new world was awesome they just ran out of content and funds? 😭

[past burrow]

Oh, a New World player... now I get it. A lot of people came here thinking it would be something similar. I’m sorry, my friend, but we’re not going to have the same thing. (I played since the alpha too and loved it, but thank God Soulframe isn’t the home for New World players.)

[plucky grove]

ill check that ty

[visual radish]

If a game isnt intended for it from the get go, halfheartedly jamming it just because only dilutes dev time for something noone likes

[plucky grove]

bwt as a begginner i should focus on main quest? and also im like at the end of chapter 2 but still have the excat same stuff is it normal?

[visual radish]

As in noone will like the result because it will be half baked

[past burrow]

yeah

get the main quest

[smoky crater]

i'd suggest a mix of both quest stuff and just grinding/exploring

[arctic cedar]

This. Like I came to Soulframe specifically for chill vibes and no pvp

[pure shoal]

this game is a very, go at your own pace kinda thing

[past burrow]

Just having PvP as an optional feature already shifts the focus and brings that PvP crowd over, who’ll constantly complain about balance and make dumb requests just like in any other RPG or MMO with PvP.

[plucky grove]

aight bet and btw i feel like there kinda lack of inforamtion about drop and exploration maybe im dumb but idk feel kinda lost for some thing

[past burrow]

no PVP is good

for new world players already have another mmo with a good pvpve

[grave pumice]

I had a lot of fun playing new world and this game looked cool but probably will just go to Bellatores or chrono odyssey

[pure shoal]

thats ok, a lot of the game is like that google and players are a help, breeds a positive ask for help and its ok mentality or learn solo, up to you

[past burrow]

good option for a PVP

[smoky crater]

iirc the enemy codex entries in your Journal show the drops when you complete the entries
but also a looootta stuff is still W.I.P.

[pure shoal]

never be afraid to ask for knowledge or assistance from the players, someones got the knowledge

[past burrow]

but soulframe is not the game for pvp

[visual radish]

Also they have just properly started looking at the journal feature

[past burrow]

and no game for pvp enjoyer

[pure shoal]

oh snap i totally forgot about that wooh ty for the reminder

[visual radish]

Like literally first real journal iteration came last friday lol

[plucky grove]

alr ty

[plucky grove]

alr ty where can i find the codex (nvm)

[smoky crater]

Journal

[trim oriole]

are tales just bugged right now?

[smoky crater]

wym?

[trim oriole]

i tried 4 and none will advance past the first stage

[knotty moon]

It could be the Codex-icon.

[pure shoal]

thats a cool sword and shield

[trim oriole]

objective completes but never moves on the quest

[smoky crater]

[spare badge]

Exactly. DE doens't wans PVP, most of us don't want PVP.

[plucky grove]

quick question is all weopon and armor mostly obtain by crafting or there is drop to instant get armor and weopon form mob and quest (not fragemtns )

[knotty moon]

DE is not against PvP, just not now.

[pure shoal]

they would rather cater to the players wants and requests, which puts them leagues above most

[smoky crater]

or more specifically not in the plans atm

[arctic cedar]

Fragments, except the camel shop where u can buy for 💰

[pure shoal]

anyone ever talk how farming for wevetwood sap is stupid relaxing

[plucky grove]

what i need to do for this?

[plucky grove]

alr ty

[pure shoal]

just go out and tem like 4-5 squirrels

[spare badge]

Charm 5 squrrels.

[smoky crater]

mmmmmm no. the whole game is

[knotty moon]

Given that Wevetwood has worse performance than the rest of the game it is actually farily stressing, on my GPU.

[pure shoal]

facts

[smoky crater]

oh yeah related to the Wevetwoods area

an interesting discovery i made a few days ago

[pure shoal]

really dang, its cosy

[halcyon thicket]

cuz vegetation

[knotty moon]

Though I think I saw them drop from the Neath'uns, need to confirm.

[spare badge]

No, because those little (redacted) corrupted sproutfolk keep showing up in the process of finding the sap trees.

[plucky grove]

alr ty are they anywhere?

[smoky crater]

pre P14 i was getting like 75-95fps in the Wevetwoods area with vol. fog on Low.
after P14 i changed Vol. fog to Medium, and even with that taking up more performance wise i never dropped below 80-85 and the higher end of my fps was in like 110's

[knotty moon]

Plenty of vegetation around the game, only that area gives me problems (now, southeast near the castle also gave me problems during P11-13).

[spare badge]

Yeah. Just go find 5 squirrels.

[pure shoal]

alright ill give yah that, keeps yah on yah toes, there not lethal just oh hey

[spare badge]

Just kill all fog.

[spare badge]

They actually can be.

[smoky crater]

nnnnno

[pure shoal]

oh? btw you know what debuf they give?

[smoky crater]

point was they made foliage or just rendering stuff in general a good bit better

[spare badge]

DEATH TO FOG! Long live being able to see the game!

[smoky crater]

nnnnnnnNO

[pure shoal]

why is the game SPEAKING FOGGINESE!

[smoky crater]

i wonder what my fps would be at with vol. fog at high....

[spare badge]

Dunno what it is. But they can set you on fire without any indication that they've done so other than you bursitng into magical flames. I suspect it's a bug.

[pure shoal]

AH

[spare badge]

Additionally, there's those ones that keep matrix doding arrow hail.

[pure shoal]

lmfao they moving like neo

[spare badge]

Is why we need some gatling guns and a proper Boomstick.

[pure shoal]

wheres my howitzer cannon!

[spare badge]

On the front of the Doom Turtle.

[pure shoal]

YEEEEEEES!

https://tenor.com/view/boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-knight-chevalier-i-want-u-in-my-room-gif-21144183

[spare badge]

Turtle Pact:

[pure shoal]

THATS A CHONKER

[spare badge]

It weighs as much as a blue whale.

12" thick armor

[knotty moon]

Scorpion Pact.

[spare badge]

They just needed to give it a better engine. The one they stuck in it caught fire trying to move it.

[smoky crater]

thaaat's fiiiine

just a cool special passive ability

[spare badge]

It's like they had a redneck design it, then kicked him off the team when it came time to decide what engine to use...

[river elk]

if there is a mob that walks into the zone sometimes you have to clear them and then it updates.

[brave hatch]

There is no difference between using twice and thrice blessing on purity?

[smoky crater]

well... are you already at attunement cap with it?

because if you are it doesn't matter how many more attunement pips you add to it, it won't get more damage

[toxic bridge]

pips max out at 5 now

[smoky crater]

that too yeah true

[brave hatch]

thanks

[toxic bridge]

so its wasting to do more than 2

on that wep

[spare badge]

Smart move would be to use sappene blessed anyhow.

[pure shoal]

wtf is eternum gardens, did the thing but whaaaat!

[smoky crater]

a place for flowers

[spare badge]

It's the place for founders to plant the flowers with their name on 'em.

[pure shoal]

oh thats awesome i can do that too wooh!

[smoky crater]

gotta find a instance with space left tho to be able to plant

[spare badge]

If you hit the little button to exit the gardens, it'll TP you back to the starter area. Good for not wasting a seed.

[brave hatch]

How can i get rank A on miri? I did 3 run and all of them were S

[spare badge]

Die more often?

[pure shoal]

oh, oh this is gonna be hard, where do i put it lol

[knotty moon]

Can't as far as I know.
You can get B (which has the A tier rewards) by dying once and then full clearing.

[pure shoal]

nv got it

[native drum]

theres no way to put saved markers down on the map is there? instead of just the waypoint

[spare badge]

No. Not yet, anyhow.

[native drum]

damn looks like I'me doing it the old faction way take a photo so I remember

[spare badge]

I think you meant old-fashioned way?

[native drum]

I did I did

I do not know why I wrote faction

yep everything seems to be in working order

[knotty moon]

That bug will still be there in 2030. 🤣

[ripe bone]

you have discovered the quantum lamp

we dont observe it too much for our safety

[spare badge]

Ancient NA tradition. Blame Coyote.

[native drum]

I forgot coyote was an animal to be honest (not american)

[sly matrix]

Omg, so much new armor... Fashionframe is on!

[spare badge]

Coyote is the apex Trickster.

The species are also one of the few species that laugh at human attempts at eradication. The Europeans came and killed off most of the species that were keeping the coyotes in check for millions of years, and now they're everywhere. They adapt under pressure. People trying to get rid of them just end up weeding out the weaker, less intelligent ones, and the stronger, smarter ones pick up the slack.

[zenith knoll]

incoming hotfix

[knotty moon]

Hotfix in 5 min.

[wet tulip]

may the RNG god be with you

[worn carbon]

lyke wake farm has been suffering

[calm crown]

Hotfix inbound in 2 minutes

[worn carbon]

it looks SO COOL though

[calm crown]

https://klipy.com/gifs/drinks-9--k01KPVEF4ZZCH65JY5Y37MHMYZ4

[native drum]

oh cool we got something "like" a coyote we got dingos

[worn carbon]

man why cant we have the red text guy from warframe

This is fire

[spare badge]

Because Soulframe is the opposite of Warframe.

They're opposite sides of the DE Frame coin.

[worn carbon]

whats the opposite of a furry then

[zenith knoll]

bring this exact same unhinged energy but with Soulframe's prose

[knotty moon]

Note: Bow Runes activated with Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack will charge the bow with a regular Shot, rather than the alternative fire (e.g., Arrow Rain), while you have a Rune charge.
That sounds like pure pain.

[wet tulip]

pretty sure this was made so no more torrent arrow hail xD

[fickle stirrup]

Stupid question but how do I uncover the map? I thought it was finding the world trees :p

[knotty moon]

It should be, you need to interact with them.

[worn sundial]

is there a 3 star rapier?

[wet tulip]

dewelion

[fickle stirrup]

I just collected a bunch of tasks from one, but the map is still in fog

[worn sundial]

dewelion was changed to a rapier?

[wet tulip]

yup

[knotty moon]

You need to interact with the spear, didn't even know you could take Votives before healing one.
Sounds like a bug honestly.

[fickle stirrup]

yeah I think so too, there was no spear

[knotty moon]

Fixed Clients never receiving a Rune for absorbing Fenn Jotar after leaving the Dermak Undercity in The Torment Stag.
That gives a rune now? 👀

[visual radish]

News to me too lol

[sly escarp]

Apparently

[knotty moon]

Fixed the “Sympathy” Pact Art not healing the Envoy after pulling a dead enemy’s Smite.
\o/

[fossil plume]

are pacts like bromius and orengall still unobtainable except the ones you get from the fable?

[knotty moon]

You can replay the Fable, also Avakot sometimes sells them.

[fossil plume]

oh alright thanks

[sly escarp]

Avakot sells the bps again apparently

[final rock]

nice

[wet tulip]

now i wonder if it will count for the journal too xD. sometimes the smite appears on the killing blow lol

[knotty moon]

Hopefuly, wasn't mentioned though, so I will not put my hopes on it.

[wet tulip]

yea most likely

[knotty moon]

It did say the Mockeries do give it now, so might be though.

[wet tulip]

i know i can just go with a low dmg bow without attunement bonuses to just get the smites. but it feels super tedious

[knotty moon]

It doesn't quite feel like the right mechanic to be tied to it.

[wet tulip]

true why isnt it just "hunt" to unlock

[final rock]

ah I was wondering how mockeries interacted w that

they didn't lol

[wet tulip]

yea pretty sure mockeries still wont give journal advancements. on the last envoy hour joe said they will look into it xD

[knotty moon]

Fixed being unable to complete the Journal entry for Mockeries.
They did apparently. 😛

Though no mention of the other enemies that had the same problem.

[zenith knoll]

... you can smite these???

[sly escarp]

HUH

[knotty moon]

I think I saw them drop a smite on death, once.

[visual radish]

They have so little health tho

[zenith knoll]

yeah but post-death smite pulls don't count toward your entry progress

[final rock]

yeah I hope they just change it to kill x amount or something w how smites currently function

[wet tulip]

LOL HOW. they die with literally any 1 hit xD

[knotty moon]

Also no mention of the scan not saving, hopefuly they simply forgot to mention it.

[zenith knoll]

the scans do save, the game just hallucinates additional ones sometimes

these ones disappear on relog

[wet tulip]

yea i sure do hope it changes from smite pull to simple " hunt for completion"

[knotty moon]

The game saves one scan per enemy type per session, or at least it did.

[zenith knoll]

in hotfix 2 it didn't at least

[knotty moon]

Also the saved one seems to be unaugmented by Orlick boosts.

[final rock]

I had journal progress roll back a lot on hotfix 2

[knotty moon]

Fable enemies would be even more of a pain though.

[wet tulip]

those can be simply adjusted for 1 kill complete

[final rock]

how would it be more annoying to simply kill them instead of having to get a smite

[zenith knoll]

there's a wazzard of the wastes entry in there (from bromius' fable)

[wet tulip]

so you need only 1 fable kill

[knotty moon]

True.

[wet tulip]

its not like the fable mobs give important loot. its literally just for the 100% completion hunters

[final rock]

I imagine we'll get to kill them again soon

[zenith knoll]

in wf there's a codex entry for the chroma specter you fight in one of the super early quests and nowhere else

[random quiver]

im at the shipwrecks after finishing the fable, how do i do more duels

[wet tulip]

literally this is just for the looks xD

[zenith knoll]

i'm not even sure it's replayable

[final rock]

wait no that'd be a specific variant of an agari nvm im being dumb

[knotty moon]

Right now you need multiple scans, so for Wazzard of Wastes (Waste Bear version) need to replay the fable and log out after the Smite, if it was on kill and still multiple you would have to complete the fable multiple times.

[wet tulip]

for agari it seems like 3 smite pulls for a complete after you finish all orlicks tales

[random quiver]

how do i farm the duels to get the mestra armor and espadarte

[final rock]

check all of the shipwrecks every 3(?)hrs

[visual radish]

Just gotta find em

[zenith knoll]

for almost every enemy, only exception i can think of currently is the vadagar bear (which only requires one)

[random quiver]

ohh so not every shipwreck has a duel?

[final rock]

I think the 3 ribbon and 3 weapon ones from the fable are viable locations.

[calm crown]

finally got my first fragment for the new sword/shield

[final rock]

congrats

man I should not have grinded for the boss drop weapon before now

[visual radish]

Kinda like a vadagar situation
Many spawn locations, not all are active

[torn plaza]

anyone having problems with the covens cauldron quest from orlick

ive gathered the materials and made the ink but its not registering anything

[zenith knoll]

is it me or did they technically buff runes yet again with this new Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack activation

you no longer need to fully charge your heavy attack, meaning you can activate your runes even faster than before

not that i'm complaining of course.

[agile merlin]

How do you lure the circade in front of the glowing seals to get the talisman pieces, he just teleports back to the pit for me

[quaint dune]

um so how are you suppose to be able to use your rune now wiht mouse and keyboard on the hotfix?

use to be a charges heavy attack, but isn't doing it for me now

[torn plaza]

gotta keep close to him so he stays aggros

[knotty moon]

Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack.

[visual radish]

Keep poking and dont go too fast

[torn plaza]

hold spectral sight, hit heavy attack button

[sly escarp]

Hold q then tap heavy

[visual radish]

It's like a small child gotta hold their attention

[torn plaza]

keep em engaged with subway surfers

[quaint dune]

even for archers?

[visual radish]

Yup

[sly escarp]

Yep, even for archers

Note that Avex is bugged and can't activate runes atm

[final rock]

yeah. apparently Q+M2 on archer should just charge heavy apparently

[calm crown]

and second fragment for lyke-wake

[final rock]

of course they missed that lol

[calm crown]

woot

[visual radish]

M2 is right click tho

[final rock]

M2 is heavy attack, no?

am I mixing up game keybindings

[visual radish]

Block/aim

[zenith knoll]

bow rune activation for reference

[sly escarp]

M2 is block

M3 is scroll button

[visual radish]

M1 left button
M2 right button
M3 middle click/wheel
M4-x whatever weird order you fancy mouse has

[sly escarp]

That's odd, it shouldn't be doing arrow hail

[zenith knoll]

that's the torrent rune

[sly escarp]

Never mind then

[gusty sky]

Well, I think the biggest detractor for PVP in soulframe is just... The game doesn't seem anywhere near built for it, unless you implement a stamina system or ETC where actions have a cost, it's not an experience where I feel that there's really a good set of bounds for fighting one another. Which is fine in this game because it is entirely PVE

[final rock]

woops all spam

[gusty sky]

I checked the channel and it was all the way up there so I figured I'd give my 2 cents

[sly escarp]

At best could maybe see a 1v1 duel system and even that would probably be buggy and, imo, unfun.

[gusty sky]

well yea, because we don't have any cost to dodges and ETC.

which like, again, PVE context, that can work, but PVP? It falls apart

and I say that as like, person who likes souls PVP.

[final rock]

stamina sounds like it could be an interesting addition to combat, but iirc that was a thing in old preludes that got axed

[gusty sky]

That wasn't a thing

[zenith knoll]

pvp in this game sounds terrible as it is, unless you make special gamemodes just for it (like warframe's lunaro but good) OR PvPvE similar to the faceoff gamemode in 1999

[final rock]

guess Im misremembering what ive heard or I was lied to

[gusty sky]

atleast not in any publicly released builds of soulframe.

[visual radish]

It was axed early on in warframe so dunno how much steve likes it

Dont remember if they ever mentioned it for soulframe

[knotty moon]

This doesn't work btw.

[final rock]

ah that might be what I mixed up

[zenith knoll]

hear me out: soulframe fall guys

[torn plaza]

war and soulframe are power fantasy games, pvp didnt work in warframe when they tried and it wont work here

[final rock]

wow Warframe w stamina sounds cursed

[torn plaza]

oh no, its still in warframe

[visual radish]

Game was much slower so it wasnt horrible

[torn plaza]

it was

[halcyon thicket]

Quite the assumption

[visual radish]

I am talking stamina

[gusty sky]

well, it was warframe before bullet jumping and ETC. So just normal running and walking and sneaking.

[visual radish]

Stamina is full gone

[halcyon thicket]

Is this an expert giving his professional opinion

[visual radish]

Warframe was destined for speed when dual zoren popped up

Good old coptering

[torn plaza]

its not an assumption its a pretty educated guess, it didnt work in warframe, it wont work here either. both of these games are using the same formula and its about doing wilds amount of damage in as little time as possible and the games allow it

[final rock]

?

[torn plaza]

dash slide melee

[halcyon thicket]

In case you missed it this is meant to be a much slower game

[final rock]

ah yeah

[torn plaza]

was a spin with dual zoren, so youd spam it and copter arpund lol

[visual radish]

Before bullet jumping slide meele attacks could propel you forward
Which was called coptering

Dual zoren was one of the best for that

[torn plaza]

speed doesnt matter, again, massive damage power fantasy

[halcyon thicket]

And again, "it didn't work there so it won't work here" isn't much of a valid reasoning

[torn plaza]

sure buddy

[zenith knoll]

Avex innovating by being the first weapon unable to activate runes due to its unique heavy attack

[visual radish]

Too "avex" garde lol

[final rock]

always knew Avex was the worst bow when I got it /j

I typed /j, but it probably is the worst one w how strong arrow storm is/was (haven't tried a normal bow in P14)

[zenith knoll]

Avex was the first bow I used after I got back from my SF break somewhere in the middle of P13

had not played for like a month or two because of work, thought they had removed arrow hail entirely from all bows

when actually it's just that one bow

[gusty sky]

Arrow hail was a mistake IMO.

I do think that refining the melee bow moveset instead of ditching it, and then only bringing back the heavy for the avex wasn't the move. I wish they'd refine it more.

[final rock]

I was just confused for half a sec

[final rock]

real

[lyric leaf]

was there a small change to the runes just today? i notice i can only activate them when holding spectral sight as well

[zenith knoll]

yep that was added today

[final rock]

yup, check the patch notes

[gusty sky]

Yes, in the patch notes

[lyric leaf]

i like that change. cool!

[gusty sky]

alot of people do, especially since we kinda asked for it too

so yay we got thing we asked for, yippie.

[final rock]

always thought it odd that Brom 1 got nerfed radically while arrow storm + torrent stuck around

brom 1 deserved it fyi

[knotty moon]

Uh, the UI is counting the Totem's armor again.

[zenith knoll]

shouldn't it?

[wet tulip]

oh yes it does lol

[final rock]

oh did that get removed at one point?

[wet tulip]

it was a visual bug

[lavish smelt]

The fort curlail drops dont seem to match with what the hotfix said, did i misunderstand the hotfix?

[wet tulip]

that happened on P13 too. your armor totems wasnt showing in the UI

[lavish smelt]

kearn too, havent tried miri yet

[knotty moon]

Every once in a while they bug it again, generally the armor itself works though.

[vast pasture]

Zoinks scoob

[sly escarp]

What seems to be dropping instead?

[void marten]

There's no boss and the doors wont open, guess I'll become a wazzard of the wastes

[lavish smelt]

I didnt pay much attention to the drops, I was mainly doing it for the runes and metal farming, after 3 S runs in curlail and 1 S run in kearn i didnt get any new runes

[wet tulip]

you are the boss now go yoink lyke wake fragments from others xD

[sly escarp]

Can drop runes. Not guaranteed.

The table seems to be the weapons/runes in one drop chance, so you would get one or another.

[lyric leaf]

I'm trying to find this new fallen skytower dungeon. is it not at the "fallen skytower" point of interest?

[iron falcon]

ffs i was done with duelos, don't put spadarte there too!

[knotty moon]

New Viscii.

[void marten]

I ahve breached containment, but wtf? What's this weenie hot jr. ahh instance?

[lyric leaf]

ah ok, i'll head there

[wet tulip]

straight up from warframe's deimos rock xD

[iron falcon]

happened to me too, thought it was fallen skytower, but its the one at new viscii instead

[lavish smelt]

oh thanks for the clarification

[bronze adder]

I seem to no longer be getting smite charges off of smites from dead enemies, I noticed an issue related to this was fixed in the hotfix. Does anyone know if this was this a problem before the hotfix or if this is as a result of the hotfix

Just wanna know whether I should make a post about it

[smoky crater]

happened before too

[bronze adder]

ahh okay ty

as long as its known

[quaint dune]

so what is this thing about virtue attunement? a weapon i had forged says i have 5/13

[torn plaza]

bro what lol

how do you even get it that high lmao

[wet tulip]

mestra armor and magick weps xD

[gusty sky]

that means you have 5 of that stat, and to get the bonuses from its scaling, you need to be at 13 in that stat at the very least.

[visual radish]

Stat requirements to get a bonus from your stats

[wet tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411314132459847700/1491021228369252372/image0.gif

[torn plaza]

geez the armor is that good? and what do the weapons contribute i didnt think it changed that number at all

(ive spent all my time leveling shit and not trying to make a build until now lol)

[wet tulip]

there are armor totems xD

[amber tendon]

im doing a grand fable chapter 1 and the "wield a rune in battle " is bugged. Anyone else has this problem?

[wet tulip]

that you put on your weapons

[gusty sky]

are you activating the rune?

as in soulmode+heavy

[torn plaza]

get them as randomly as you get any other totems?

[wet tulip]

lure the animals

each totem got 3 stats for each slot

[torn plaza]

yeah thats what i meant

[amber tendon]

its equipped "100% flame dmg" it only activates when im in soul mode "pressing Q" ?

[torn plaza]

OOH i see em now

"+2 magick armour"'

[wet tulip]

you can upgrade totems too with harmony

[torn plaza]

ye that i knew

[sly escarp]

You need to first do a pull smite to get a charge. Then you have to hold Q then do a heavy attack to activate the rune charge.

[wet tulip]

and i said magick weps especially since their magick armor totems give +15 each. why my magick armor is sitting above 80

[sly escarp]

It will immediately do an attack so make sure you're in range.

[coarse schooner]

Why do i get a smoldering sword while using Moras Flame pact?

[torn plaza]

thats nuts i was wondering how it was still that high lol, im at 110 with oryn umber

[coarse schooner]

Its causing me not to be able to use Runes

[wet tulip]

mestra itself makes it 50+ on everything fyi

[torn plaza]

ig i know what im farming for tonight lol

[amber tendon]

oh

[knotty moon]

On one hand the description seems like it is hinting at a secret, on the other the lore unlock seems to be a bug.

[amber tendon]

can i pull smite with a short sword?

[wet tulip]

have fun while it lasts it will most definitely get nerfed anytime soon xD

[wet tulip]

||you found a moth in the dungeon WUT?||

[sly escarp]

Yes, you can pull smite with any weapon. However, you will Only get a charge if that weapon has a rune equipped

[knotty moon]

||Yeah, quite rare, but sometimes it spawns.
Seems to be one of Wazzard lines.||

[wet tulip]

||any tips on what rooms? or its literally random?||

im asking cuz i want that extra MR exp xD

[knotty moon]

||No idea, I'm walking around spamming Pull Smite, when I entered one of the big column rooms the mote was pulled.||

[wet tulip]

only thing left to farm

[wet tulip]

||ah the room where the knights spawn ||?

[quaint dune]

so how do you finish your journal entry on squirrel? you have to charm so many of them?

[knotty moon]

Yeah.

[wet tulip]

kk ty

guess its back to the dungeon for me xD

[sly escarp]

Yep

[wet tulip]

gotta get that extra exp lol

[amber tendon]

so i need to wait for a 6% when a attack..... thats rough

[torn plaza]

the "a covens cauldron" quest step from orlick isnt progressing

[sly escarp]

What step isn't working?

[torn plaza]

brewing the ink

[sly escarp]

And brewing the ink isn't progressing it?

[torn plaza]

correct, ive made 2 now

[sly escarp]

Hm. Have you tried a relog?

[torn plaza]

yup, twice actually

[sly escarp]

https://support.soulframe.com/ to file a support ticket, they can probably help further. Also make sure to file a bug report in #1438224825113120788 ! Does the bug report dance

[torn plaza]

lol will do

[pure shoal]

how does one get centoaph and lyke wake?

[sly escarp]

The fallen tower dungeon in the SE

[final rock]

from my experience brewing didn't do anything, but eventually counted. It was the first thing I did before collecting the flower and mushroom tho.

[pure shoal]

bet ty

[quaint dune]

so what is the point of the different talismans?

[knotty moon]

Different Virtue bonuses.
Best are the +6 to one virtue or the +3 to all.

[pure shoal]

soo uhh question, anyone else struggling to get runes to activate

[quaint dune]

ah, and what do the different virtues do?

cause i have unlocked 3 virtue prism

[visual radish]

Spirit vision + heavy attack button

[pure shoal]

thats new

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Virtues

[pure shoal]

noice

[visual radish]

Indeed like few hours ago new

[torn plaza]

ill go collect the other flower then and see

jsut gotta find where its at lol

[eager sun]

Can someone explain or show me where the path is near Heedoway

[scenic solar]

Looks like they might be planning to sneak in another new armor set

[proper crystal]

so not only do pull smites from dead enemies still not give healing, they don't give rune charges either anymore, lovely

[iron falcon]

did they fix the new Sword & shield drop?

[torn plaza]

supposedly

[proper crystal]

allegedly

[iron falcon]

I mean, has anyone tried to? XD

[torn plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrelly-dan-gif-22970567

[scenic solar]

kinda, normal sludge spawned knights drop it, but still on the lower end of drop rates, 1 part in like 15-20 kills since the patch

[night sapphire]

i just got the game

[iron falcon]

I can work with that

[scenic solar]

and I can confirm they do spawn from the sludge spawned ones, because one spawned right in front of me as I entered, I killed it, and it dropped 1 fragment.... i still need the second

bright side... I don't need to do the worm anymore, so just get to the boss room and then back track and reset the dungeon 😛

[void dawn]

does anyone know how to get the rune for the shield?

[thorn ingot]

Did you managed to get more history motes from this place? I cant seem to get more than one

[knotty moon]

Just the one earlier, but didn't spend much time on it after getting it.

Posted it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1496648586853875883 anyway. 😛

[proper crystal]

yeah, after playing mirifuir more, whoever designed this needs to be fired

[knotty moon]

Why?

[proper crystal]

teleporting, immune to range, full healing bosses that spam oneshot attacks

[visual radish]

Fairly sure only one of them is a healer

[proper crystal]

and he's on the other side of the arena now

[visual radish]

Ranged ftw lol