gameplay-discussion

[frozen edge]

I really want them to give each weapon some unique useful quirk, so in theory none of them will ever be fully powercrept

in reality, there will likely always be BiS gear, but having extra reasons to use underpowered stuff beyond just fashion/themes would be nice

[swift schooner]

Does muifinrnfjdlfj siege have a 30 min cooldown or 3 hr?

[dusky socket]

I imagine it the same as Riven rolls, where a god roll is just all the best stats at all the highest values. But we also have yet to delve into statuses, which we can only assume will be coming at some point, so there's another layer of variability.

[dusky socket]

Sieges are 3hrs (although I swear I have been able to do Mirifur again before the 3hrs). But it should be on the same respawn time.

[swift schooner]

Ooooh my bad, thanks!

[dusky socket]

Imma start calling it Muifinrnfjdlfj from now on, though 🙏

[swift schooner]

I already waste enough time double checking if it's Orengall or Orrengal, I'm not wasting time memorising that name 🤣

[brazen sparrow]

if we can soulf, then we can murf

[dusky socket]

Hey, that's better than most. People in-game asking "so how many Orangenell wolves can you have?" XD

Anyone else have an addiction to charming every animal you see? And with the new Spectral Sight range, it takes you like 58584958 hours to cross the map because you can see the animals for miles? Or just me? 😂

[frozen edge]

Orangenell should be a thing. Jodie Foster skin for wolves when, DE?

[dusky socket]

When we can turn our wolf pup into a mount and give it a name, this is what I'm finna name it

It's even already orange.....

[full hearth]

Orangell

[halcyon thicket]

Sounds like a cleaning product

[dusky socket]

Imma clean out these sludgey Ode with my Orangenell

[vagrant kayak]

CHOMP, and the dirt is gone

[dusky socket]

What do you think Ode'n sludge smells like?

Is it like, car oil? Or extra virgin olive oil? Or maybe hair oil?

[vagrant kayak]

Grease and rot

[dusky socket]

So basically Jack in the Box nuggets, got it

[smoky crater]

Cheese

[scenic solar]

Anyone else feel like someone screwed up making the Mestra armor Spirit while Rapiers are Grace?

[dusky socket]

When they made the Maestra armor, they were really high and said "wouldn't it be funny if...."

[swift schooner]

Is the sword and shield just a super low drop chance from the knights in the new ichor dungeon?

[knotty moon]

Yes, though I have yet to personally see someone post a screenshot of a drop.

Someone mentioned only those already standing dropped it, not those spawning from pools.

[honest iris]

Q is this bug I got task to kill Discharged Nimrod but he is not in the spot

[sly escarp]

Seen a few

They do exist

But it seems like the drop rate is similar to the Mockery weps

[knotty moon]

Sirin time I guess?

[dusky socket]

As Dexell said, it only drops from static spawn mendicants in the 2nd spawn area. So you can run past the first spawn area, kill the mendicant in the 2nd, use tele stone back to entrance, leave, reload dungeon, reenter.

[sly escarp]

Pact passives broke this preludes

Including pickpocket

[swift schooner]

Ahh that's what happened. I thought maybe prespawned they were "aware" or something.

[frozen edge]

approaching citrine levels of boredom

[lament path]

Ah that explains some stuff

[ripe sonnet]

Citrine has fire tyl regor lines though

[frozen edge]

Not a fan of time gated encounters with diluted drop tables either, multiple sieges with just filler fragments is bad juju

[lament path]

The drop rates for the new items are really bad all over with this prelude

common mook items for high level content

[frozen edge]

well, maestra armor and cenotaph is relatively fast at least

[lament path]

I did three duels for nothing, a rune and.. nothing

5 dungeon runs for all nettles

[frozen edge]

sounds about right, but both are fast

[lament path]

And getting.. was it sollos? Idk but whatever I got from the siege was salt in the wound

[frozen edge]

that damn cutscene should have been skippable tho

[knotty moon]

Conductor Petra is an awful healer.

[lament path]

Something just seems broken to me if you get 1 star equipment after doing the new content

[stray oriole]

Anyone knows where all the shipwreck locations are?

[frozen edge]

bouncing back and forth on the two east coast ones seems fastest.

[sly escarp]

30 min cooldown might trip up that plan.

Might be best to plan a 30 min run loop of wrecks

[iron falcon]

once you get all 3 parts of the set and the pact you are done with them right?

[sly escarp]

Pact you get from the quest

The post quest wrecks are just for armour

And for fun

[iron falcon]

I just want to be done with the ridiculous headband

[swift schooner]

Look I'll never judge devs for bugs when I haven't got the first clue how to code a game

But stuff like "sword and shield knights drop the new weapon... but just the ones that were already spawned in" always make me laugh haha

So weirdly specific

[dusky socket]

It was even better when we thought it was only the 2h guy.

"So you're telling me that the guys wielding the SnS...don't drop the SnS...right right"

[sly escarp]

Technically all knights that start spawned in drop it

Halberd Knights,ace Knights

[grand island]

I forgot how downright confusing this game was

[knotty moon]

We had worse, there was that time that the Mockery weapons dropped by the unaware spirits only, and since those couldn't be killed they had to be pickpocketed.

Most likely in this case they added the drop to the spawned entity, then added the ones spawning in and forgot to add it to them too.

[ashen gulch]

is there any new POI map for this preludes yet or the previous one?

[sly escarp]

Or just used the wrong enemies for the spawning triggers. Guessing they might be the ones from the King and Knell fights.

[sly escarp]

They added a new location or two iirc

[dusky socket]

Still being updated, though

[knotty moon]

I seen a map of the wrecks floating around.
Other than that you got Mirifuir's Siege, New Viscii dungeon, and the miniquests (||College of Pensives, Rood's tree, Wyndoun's tree||).

[frozen edge]

There's no 30 mins cd for those two spots, it was always up for me going back and forth. About 5 mins to kill both.

[sly escarp]

Intriguing

[grand island]

Is there any way to make this game less cryptic or am i just kinda stupid

[sly escarp]

Game is intentionally somewhat cryptic, lots of flowery language to set the moodm

The avakot wiki is a helpful tool if you find yourself getting lost on how things work.

[dusky socket]

You can always ask in here, or in Q&A in game as well, usually you'll get like 5 people answering haha

[frozen edge]

DE makes games where you basically have the wiki on alt tab or 2nd screen

well maybe thats a bit unfair, unreal tourney and dark sector weren't that opaque

[fickle wind]

guys im stuck in the glades

god this game bruh

[knotty moon]

...
I had to look up a walkthrough on how to kill a Dark Sector boss, wasn't helpful, turned out it simply had an ungodly amount of HP while being presented as a gimmick fight.

[grand island]

Yeah i guess

This game just feels way less explained

[dusky socket]

Use tele stone and go out entrance?

[grand island]

Its been a while since i last played and i remember being just as confused before

[fickle wind]

reloging fixex

[fickle wind]

too true

[frozen edge]

should always exit out the entrance if possible anyway, if you want to stay in the area

bugger dealing with the exit points way the eff away from where you were and having to run back

[dusky socket]

It's the one Neathuns that takes you all the way up north that gets me XD

Like...dungeon weren't that long, why am I here?

[frozen edge]

circades being a drop down entrance, so you have no choice is my pet peeve

like, its a tiny dungeon, what do you mean I'm now all the way at the fort?

[dusky socket]

It do be annoying asf

[smoky crater]

Because there is only 1 exit

[knotty moon]

Active exit, technically all three Crypts have an exit nearby.

Still not sure why they didn't activate the other two honestly.

[smoky crater]

Oh wait yeah

Been that way since they got added tho

[frozen edge]

That perfectly nice exit in the swamps that never got used 🙁

should have added a trampoline to the entrance at least, so we could get out :p

[hot oriole]

is duelo still bugged

[knotty moon]

You gotta be more specific, though there has only be one hotfix so most likely yes.

[fervent sun]

Is there an audio cue for a perfect dodge? I can't tell if I'm hitting it.

[knotty moon]

Should be, Duelo makes it more clear since it leaves behind a clone.

[dusky socket]

It's very faint, like a little whiff, and feet glow yellow for just a second. It's kinda hard to tell with stuff going on

[fervent sun]

all these people rich in gossamer quartz 😭

[grand island]

Ok it seems this game also does the standing system stuff like warframe which kinda just deters me

[fervent sun]

(I haven't been able to craft it yet)

[swift schooner]

Good to know! Feel a bit dumb but I've been skipping them so I'll stop that haha

Crazy good luck though, just pulled both murifdlfajksdj siege staff frags one after the other! Been missing levelling a staff 🙂

[fickle wind]

anyone knows how this reforging works ???

i have all these ryt now

[knotty moon]

It lets you add Joineries to a weapon.

[fickle wind]

ya i added to a weapon before the rework , but then it had like clear stats now idk wha any of it means

[knotty moon]

Joineries add pips of attunement to the weapon, (one, two, or three, depending on quality).
That makes your weapon scale faster (up to five pips per type), so it requires less stat points to cap out on damage.

[fickle wind]

i wanna add something to my blitzel what should i add??

[knotty moon]

Go with your highest Virtue I guess.

[fickle wind]

for a bestone blitzel build with oschelda what is like the correct virtue set

i currently have these ryt now

[floral coral]

Can I be kicked out of a chat room?

[final rock]

I always just push one stat to the highest for the weps I use

[smoky crater]

Simply put, yes

[dusky socket]

Well, Blitzel scales off Grace/Courage, so you're going to want a good amount of Grace.

[dusky socket]

You can also get a free Grace Prism by just walking into the Rose Enclave

[floral coral]

Hahaha, and how can I get unexpelled? We were just joking and I got expelled.

[grand island]

I have discovered something quite annoying

[smoky crater]

Wait for some amount of time.

Could be 24h could be a week

[fickle wind]

so should i use a full grace virtue??

[knotty moon]

Courage build, or Courage/Grace hybrid I guess.
You only have the Courage/Spirit hybrid Prism as Courage.

Most likely you want to work toward getting the Courage Prisms from Kith of Kings.

Otherwise you could go with Grace/Spirit, so you can scale your weapon and the cd, since the scaling for Bestone is not really important as far as I know, but it is suboptimal.

[grand island]

I had chose sirin as my first pact so the enclave i would have would be silent rose and the pact you get from it is ode tempest

But somehow i already have ode tempest?

[floral coral]

oh ok

thanksss

[grand island]

So its redundant

[elfin blaze]

is there a place you start the duello quest

[smoky crater]

Find a shipwreck

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message
Go to any of those location, pick up the Ribbon.

[dusky socket]

You'll get more damage that way, and more Grace = lower detection range while sneaking, which works well if you use a Shortblade offhand for backstabbing people when you need to use close range

[fickle wind]

ohh aight

thank you

[final rock]

suppose I should add I have a high enough MR to meet most secondary stat requirements w/o issue. if you dont a split prism would be needed, but going fully on one stat scales the best from my experience

[red gull]

I am trying to find the last history mote of salzbrim, cant find it. Do i have to wait for one to appear?

[knotty moon]

Relog.

[red gull]

ty

[grand island]

The premium currency stuff what should i be using all of them on i know in warframe starting out youd be getting warframe slots and weapon slots

[final rock]

just slots

[grand island]

Oh ok this game also has slots

[final rock]

I'd treat it the same like WF except slots are even more valuable due to the lack of alternatives to acquire more

[fickle wind]

whats the diff between these two

[knotty moon]

The Virite looks bugged.
Mora should be Courage instead of Grace.

Probably should post it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788.

[final rock]

they used to do entirely different things, but I think they're identical in function now

oh yeah the names off

[fickle wind]

ohhh

[dusky socket]

Only difference is that not every weapon goes with every joinery

[frozen edge]

Some of them are probably bugged. All my old stuff got replaced with blessed by saphene, but I think I saw one or two weapons without any bonus grace at all. Need to recheck later.

[smoky crater]

Or did they just have the golden pip instead since that appears with 5 or more of the same virtue pip

[frozen edge]

nah, if I wasn't hallucinating, it was like blessed by saphene, but only had 2 moons

[dusky socket]

There have been issues with some rolled over joineries not showing up, or being the wrong tier. Blessed turning into Twice blessed instead of Thrice blessed, etc.

[opaque viper]

Odd question but is the perfect dodge working atm?

When i dodge and proc the copies of the Duelo pact...i can't attack for a second or two, as if the window for perfect dodge riposte is locked up?

[knotty moon]

Seems to be an issue with Duelo, I think it was working with Oscelda.

[dusky socket]

Yeah, it's glitchy with Duelo

[opaque viper]

thanks i'll go look for a bug report to +1 (done)

[fickle wind]

cani like get a virtue prism from another facton whilst im pledged to another faction

[dusky socket]

I love you for looking for the +1 instead of just spamming another redundant post 🙏 🙏 🙏

[dusky socket]

You get one automatically first time you enter the Enclave. The second one you have to be pledged in order to buy

[grand island]

Do the location name orbs have a chance to spawn? Or is it a set location

[wet tulip]

LMAO

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Locations

[topaz robin]

i must say i recived a screen shot today im unsure of but if real spirt paragon sword build prolly highest dps in game like how 723 charge

[dusky socket]

1-2 spawn per location, per login. You can tell if 1 or 2 spawned because the empty "pips" at the top will have floating quotation marks in them. You can relog to force spawn/respawn the Motes.

[wet tulip]

i think grace paragon if anything since it scales better on the grace side

[topaz robin]

just a screen shot i recived my grace build para caps out at 428

[knotty moon]

Possibly potions were used.

[knotty moon]

Or buffs.

[halcyon thicket]

tethren can do that

[topaz robin]

i use potions annd buffs and i cant get my damage up like this

[halcyon thicket]

use tethren's first ability

[topaz robin]

highest was like 483 on dewelion lol

[dusky socket]

And second, second is 50% dmg buff straight out the door

[knotty moon]

Also it looks like that ain't from this prelude, as it should condense the pips.

[topaz robin]

that does that interesting i stoped using it when duelio rapire allowed 6k damage finishers

[topaz robin]

sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt

i have some that the pips dont even get added

[wet tulip]

||WE CAN PLAY AS ORLICK!!!!|| WUT

[topaz robin]

its so bugged

[wet tulip]

lol

[topaz robin]

so teth ability still scales like god

[grand island]

Empty pips where

[wet tulip]

essentially 50% less i think

still fairly good though

[dusky socket]

Top of screen, under the location name when you first enter it's area, it'll have a number of pips, black ones for the number of still missing Motes

[topaz robin]

ahhh i was gonna say i know they nerfed stuff but i didnt notice any lowered damages so far other then i cant scale things as high

[dusky socket]

1. Paragon max dmg unbuffed
2. Paragon dmg with Tethren 2 buff

[topaz robin]

ahhhhh

[grand island]

Im entering the location and it aint happening

[topaz robin]

wonder what the team buff is that also boost damage cause teth and that id assume would scale together i think wolf howl?

[dusky socket]

I'm not sure then, I can't check of course because I have all locations fully discovered. Should look like the image. And I apologize, they are above, not below the name

[knotty moon]

Duelo's Bravada raises Virtues, which should help with Paragon since it has high caps iirc.

[dusky socket]

Orengall boosts team damage by X for each party member, up to 4 times.

[wet tulip]

LOL

[grand island]

Yeah that never showed up for me lemme reload the game

[topaz robin]

so you want a teth with spirt main and spirt paragon/ wolf and duelo/ make most dps in game for funs

[knotty moon]

||That does go through if you choose it.||

[wet tulip]

im tempted xD

https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-fassbender-perfection-x-men-9WXyFIDv2PyBq

[cinder light]

Book, the legendary Book.

[dusky socket]

Well, "most" DPS is going to be what Sara Loves Archery did to reach 250k headshot lol.

[dusky socket]

Click it...click it!!!

[sinful scarab]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1495289772522999838

[frozen edge]

Thats the name I went with

[wet tulip]

xDDD

[dusky socket]

Yaaaaaaas

[wet tulip]

the book gang

[frozen edge]

Best choice imo especially if the tab scales with the name

[dusky socket]

Please send ss of it being called "Book" in menu

[wet tulip]

xD

now i wonder. how would the other long ass names would show up

[dusky socket]

Breh...I love this lol, I made the wrong choice

[topaz robin]

???????????

[dusky socket]

Just youtube it lol, it's hilarious

[topaz robin]

just courious if its with avex

[sinful scarab]

i regret not choosing Book, i picked a long name

[halcyon thicket]

it was

[dusky socket]

It's with Avex and every other possible dmg multiplier

[halcyon thicket]

bugged

[finite stone]

I really don't know why they don't just make the button be 'Almanac', 'Codexicon', etc

instead of writing the full entire thing

[topaz robin]

that had to be hard to pull off

[frozen edge]

So many of my converted stuff are like that

[halcyon thicket]

yeah it's broken for alot of us dw

it'll be fixed

[wet tulip]

umm

[grand island]

Oh

Yeah before it wasnt locked beind a quest

[wet tulip]

UMMMMM

[grand island]

Wacky

[wet tulip]

where's the hay stack xD

[sinful scarab]

yep, its terrible change and without warning

[iron falcon]

They name is only|| the first part anyway: Chronicles, Feybles, Handbook, Almanac, Codexicon, Book.||

[dusky socket]

Do a stealth finisher dive

[wet tulip]

but ill die xd

[sinful scarab]

post it in #1438224662344761345

[grand island]

How the hell do i make my bird track a different quest

[wet tulip]

go to the journal and click the birb icon on the quest you want to track

[knotty moon]

Press J, click on the Track button on the top right.

[grand island]

That is annoying

[frozen edge]

feybles is a terrible pun and they should be ashamed

[wet tulip]

lol now im glad i chose book xD

https://giphy.com/gifs/black-jack-mind-3kD2Eciolhy4VOzjRV

[knotty moon]

Ah, so it ain't just me that misread that.
It's FLYblade.

[swift schooner]

Are all passives broken? Is there no point in investing in Duelo passives rn?

[wet tulip]

seems like it

[grand island]

Ok now i need to figure out how i learn a rune

[wet tulip]

get a rune from any boss/siege and equip it

[grand island]

Slime time i guess

[sinful scarab]

calling it “Learn” is deceiving

[grand island]

Time to see how well my big ass sword does

[knotty moon]

Duelo's passive do work.

[wet tulip]

you sure?

so all the other pacts passives dont work . just the duelo ones do xd?

[knotty moon]

At least the Chamariz lvl 1 does, not sure if the higher levels do.

Or if Olho por Olho does, never seen the bleed get applied, but I wasn't really looking.

[frozen edge]

I was referring to Orlicks title choices. They had fables spelt that way.

[knotty moon]

I'll go back into my hole.

[wet tulip]

lol

[finite stone]

That's from much longer ago than the Orlick stuff - Poppy mentions feybles in his letters to his family, and there was also a library of Feybles at both the college and Othavess. Plus the sproutfolk have feybles as mentioned in Dewspore's description

not sure which of those came first, maybe P9 with map expansion? or was that earlier? memory fuzzy lol

[knotty moon]

||Kinda disappointed that it didn't get up as an alternate fungal big sproutfolk.||

[wet tulip]

||ikr i was expecting it to be a reveal to mushroom people||

||and instead of "big legs" it would have been " smelly legs" xD||

[dusky socket]

Was very anticlimactic lol

[final rock]

wheres the starting point of the new fable?

[frozen edge]

I honestly dont remember lore from that long ago. It's cool they kept it consistent. Still a terrible pun tho :p

[wet tulip]

look for any ship wrecks and use spectral sight

[final rock]

noted thks

[finite stone]

Haha agreed on that, it is dreadful 😜
-# (I absolutely love it)

[swift schooner]

What a bummer, love DE but this prelude feels a bit half-baked. Only speaking for myself but I'd have been more than happy for them to delay to end of April to iron out the bugs.

Guess that's what hotfixes are for 🙂

[grand island]

I cannot find this damned locked chest in this fort

[knotty moon]

Releasing it on a Friday didn't help. 😛

[grand island]

Man i love the founder bird

[light dew]

?

[halcyon thicket]

lmao

[knotty moon]

Duo Duelo.

[grand island]

How do i know what weapon can the rune go into

[halcyon thicket]

top left corner the rune

[grand island]

It has a little shield icon

Ok so sword and shield weapon

Which i do not have cool

[formal token]

did they really remove headshots from magic weapons???

[halcyon thicket]

seems so

[jaunty dirge]

yes

[grand island]

Alright uhh how long till i can siege fort curlail again

[formal token]

the push i needed to uninstall fr lmaooo

[regal quarry]

We need a way to sort gear better. Like, by attunement, rank, etc.

[fickle wind]

i entered , but i didnt get any ???

[knotty moon]

Try speaking with the faction leader.

[fickle wind]

this guy right?

[knotty moon]

Nope.

Go into the tavern.

[dusky socket]

No, farther back, super tall lady

[halcyon thicket]

odds are they're not gonna find her

[dusky socket]

I have faith XD

[vagrant kayak]

Envoy please don't bypass our profanity filters they're there for a reason

[knotty moon]

Tormented Stag does need to be completed.

[halcyon thicket]

no because of the quest u need to get her

[fickle wind]

i cant find mommy

[halcyon thicket]

yeah just progress through the story

don't worry about the other stuff

you'll be limited for a short while

[fickle wind]

nvm found her

[halcyon thicket]

ah

[fickle wind]

got the prism tks guys

[mellow aurora]

Hello, I wanted to know if you’ve also experienced bugs since the new update.

• I tried the organ, but the door didn’t open.
• Boss not spawning.
• The Collector’s Arc doesn’t spawn enemy waves or its boss.

[halcyon thicket]

the collector needs to be started by shooting down a hovering box

[rain wren]

Are the cloud nodes off cause i havent seen them for the journal

[mellow aurora]

I did it, but it didn’t work.

[grand island]

Why does this discord have a profanity filter when the warframe discord doesnt?

[halcyon thicket]

cause this is less unhinged

[knotty moon]

An oversight most likely.

[grand island]

I guess warframe is a good deal more adult compared to this game

[dusty hare]

Grace Bromius

[dusky socket]

Soulframe is also marketed to 13+, whereas Warframe is 17+ (even though Synod himself swears in the middle of a cutscene XD)

[halcyon thicket]

It needs to be rated M cuz there's blood

[dusty hare]

Uh oh

[weary knoll]

Dy Synod's naen?

[halcyon thicket]

B word

[dusty hare]

What cant you do in 13+ that you can in 17+

[dusky socket]

Swear in Discord chat XD

[halcyon thicket]

Laws wise, show blood and gore

And strong language

[knotty moon]

Isn't there blood in the game?
Not really prevalent, but I think there is some?

[weary knoll]

There's the blue blood from the beginning

[neon imp]

does any one know where i should go for a bug like this?

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440103546900185108
F6 screenshot is better in those cases (or in most cases really), it has metadata the dev can use to quickly load the map position.

[wet tulip]

forget blood there is enough gore just from the dismembered limbs for M rating xD

[neon imp]

Thx

[wet tulip]

what file path does those screen shots go to?

nvm found it

[knotty moon]

%userprofile%\Pictures\Soulframe

[dusty hare]

I love cussin

[sullen fox]

If I were to hazard a guess at it, it's probably less about being Adult™ or not, and a lot more about making people think about what they say before they say it

I'm not of the opinion that cussing is bad by any means, it's a part of my regular vocabulary

However, there's no denying that it increases when someone starts to get upset, starts talking really fast, or gets into an argument.

In forcing us not to use the language we would regularly use, it interrupts our immediate thought process, which can both cause us to think twice before saying something hurtful, and allow their small moderation team time to break up arguments before they go too far

Bonus, generally speaking anyone who's gonna break one of the more important rules like being respectful of each other and mods, or not using slurs, is likely to also ignore this rule, making their removal swift and easy, to maintain a healthier environment here

It also helps see who may have not read the rules, kinda like the "single brown M&M on the pillow" thing, a quick way to check if a venue read a bands list of safety requirements

[supple elm]

I'm tripping. What's a sparrow tale? I completed a votive but it didn't count for orlick's quest

[knotty moon]

Bug, Votive=Sparrow's Tale.

[supple elm]

oh, ok

thanks

[knotty moon]

The quick 1 star ones should work.

[supple elm]

i saw a screen from a guy who completed orlick's quests. so it's not consistent bug I guess?

[knotty moon]

I had no trouble with it personally.

[dusky socket]

Somewhat possible they don't understand what "share" means in game.

[knotty moon]

Relogging might fix it if it persist.

[quartz ether]

Ayo, where does Lyke-Wake come from?

[dusky socket]

Gotta find a leprechaun at the end of a rainbow and give it your firstborn child

[cold idol]

Yeah. Especially at 16+ Mastery. They definitely don't know what a share is.

[topaz robin]

one lobbie bugged out we explained a bug to you you didnt listen he left so i logged off

[knotty moon]

New dugeon's Mendicant Knights, only the already spawned ones (not the ones rising from the ground), and it is extremely rare.

[topaz robin]

dont be bad at game and listen to your team mates you also died 3 times durring seidge

[quartz ether]

Ahh, my mistake

[quartz ether]

Wait, the 'already-spawned' ones? I don't think I ever came up on an enemy that was just standing in that dungeon (and I literally just finished farming the cenotaph)

[dusky socket]

Lol, I'm just joshing you, because it's such a terrible drop rate. As Dexell said above, only the mendicants in the 2nd spawn area of the Rovgot Ruins dungeon in the southeast corrupted area.

[knotty moon]

Run around with Spectral Sight, you should see some, they are not assured to be in the dungeon, but usually there are a few.

[dusky socket]

The 2nd spawn room has 1-3 enemies, and 0-3 of them can be mendicants.

[topaz robin]

^fyi for all you runnning siege miri ill explain the bug to you all so you dont biff your run or others because im tired of it when im don efarming everything but sword and shield so im only bug testing and helping.

Siege of Miri bug, bosses wont spawn keys if killed by magic explosions and sometimes wont despawn from them cause you to be unable to finish siege
yolu cannot run double duelio build green buff dont stack and if you use it wile another has there clone out clone becomes targetable as it take damage from the green buff. the double and tripple clones can also prevent you from blocking or parrying. wile to many clones are out sometimes bosses health bar also wont despawn preventing seige completion.

death currently auto drops ranking to b instead of a

third history is a mistoryt to me as i hvnt gotten it yet wile already finding all these buggs in siege.

[topaz robin]

🤣 that whole situation is alot i dont even need. im only missing gathi and lyke im take mental break and go rage at rocket league lol

[wet tulip]

damm duelo second ability stacks xD

[vast pine]

does healheart on bromius do anything anymore with the rune changes?

[wet tulip]

my base courage is 33 here xDDD

[topaz robin]

yeah but do that with clones out and now your clones are half health and targetable

its bugged

[dusky socket]

Is it multiplicative with elixirs?

[topaz robin]

yes

[wet tulip]

i mean i didnt use a potion

but most likely yea

[halcyon thicket]

potion adds +10

[topaz robin]

you can use potion and music buff and duelio buff 3 times but it makes a mess of targeting but you can get like 70+ now

if no one uses clone i suppose it dont matter

[dusky socket]

100 Courage here we come XD

[topaz robin]

but i imigine if everyone runs courage build and goes 70+ courage you can one shot anything with muskeet

[topaz robin]

you pull it off i wanna see ss highest courge you can manage

[wet tulip]

lol thats my duelo buff alone full spirit and 0 potions xD

base was 42

thats a +16 spirit buff xD

[meager tree]

Is dewelion a rapier now?

Like does it have the rapier light attack moveset?

[wet tulip]

yes

[meager tree]

Nice im going to go all in with spirit for it

[dusky socket]

Can you see if it's multiplicative with Elixir? I don't have Duelo levelled lol

[wet tulip]

dont wanna use potion for that xD

[meager tree]

Or is their a better spirit rapier?

[wet tulip]

but from how it looks duelo buff works by % i think. so the higher virtue points you got before you press buff the more you get

[meager tree]

Does spirit effect the buffs power?

[wet tulip]

yes it looks like that

[quasi kestrel]

Anyone know how i can get a game key for a friend?

[wet tulip]

watch the stream tomorrow

[meager tree]

Spirit duelo build looks fun

[rose totem]

Can anyone provide me a guide or tutorial type thing to get into the game… im upto the point where it shows “The Last Pensive” by pressing J… tbh I have no clue on what to do and what are the best things to do! (LR1 player btw 🥲)

[wet tulip]

with linked twitch account

[quasi kestrel]

which one

[dusky socket]

Okay, it is multiplicative with elixir lol

So, probs can literally reach 100 Spirit XD

[wet tulip]

maybe even higher xD

since each buff works upon existing buffs

[dusky socket]

Dear lord almighty XD

[wet tulip]

3 envoys max spirit finna be more then 100 i think

if i alone can get a +16 spirit buff without a potion xD

that means the other envoys will give me more

[rose totem]

Can anyone help me out pls :/

[wet tulip]

i just noticed. you got loadout birb now xD

[supple elm]

Did my game bugged? I was bombarded with visual filters and screen shake during final battle with 3 bosses in Mirifuir Siege

[halcyon thicket]

nope

[warm pasture]

question: have they removed point allocation for virtues?

[molten spade]

yeah they're replaced with virtue prisms which are like presets

[warm pasture]

yea i noticed but wanted to be sure

so i guess i gotta find them to fix my virture requirement for my weapons

when u see "X" on an enemy instead of their level wat does that exactly mean? is it that i cant do effect damage against them?

[wet tulip]

their armor is too high for your current weapon to deal dmg. (either use armor strip totems or use heavy attacks)

[warm pasture]

ahhhh ok

[knotty imp]

so are the mestra duels on a cooldown & if so, for how long?

[smoky crater]

3h

3 rapiers spawn at once at like 8-9 wrecks afaik

[vast pine]

idk if I'm doing something silly, but goddamn that mirifuir final fight is tough

[pulsar cedar]

Where is Maestro Carmo located in nightfold after you complete the quest

[wet tulip]

anyone knows if you can find the motes inside the dungeon?

or it should spawn outside of it?

[narrow pecan]

agreed. i found it tough, too. i think it might be a few things. the rune changes make a lot of weapons feel a lot less potent, i usually don't run much magick defense, and three bosses with magick attacks is a lot to manage. haha. i've been focusing them into the walkway that moves around the tower to the left when you enter the boss area. i've been using a high courage mora's hand with a greatsword (treefell rune).

[narrow pecan]

yep, they pop up randomly in the different room/tiles.

[wet tulip]

if the new siege is hard for you guys. just use pacts with CC abilities and focus the archers

[warm pasture]

my map got fogged in areas i already opened, wats up with that/.

[pastel verge]

so true. It's a fairly difficult seige overall honestly. especially if your magic armor stats are low

[fathom river]

What I do with runes?

[waxen flower]

Slot them in your weapon

[lucid dirge]

guys im doing ORlocks last mission he want me to climb on his tower but when i go there nthing happens

[fathom river]

how?

[waxen flower]

Right click on your weapon in the tent

[fathom river]

yup, I just found out, thx

[waxen flower]

Runes are also weapon specific

[lucid dirge]

how can i do this

i go to his tower he speaks with me then the screen goes black for a few seconds when its back nothing happens and where i go nothing happens

also my HUD is gone i cant see it

[narrow pecan]

is it a fully black screen? it should put you into a "jumping puzzle" kind of thing. it's a very specific mission.

[lucid dirge]

Full Black screen for like 3 seconds and then my HUD is gone

no no full black screen then im back into the castle

[sinful scarab]

I’ve seen someone have the same issue, worked for them after restarting the game

[lucid dirge]

alr did.

[sinful scarab]

second time might help

maybe a third after that

it’s gonna work on one of them trust me

[lucid dirge]

i trust u imma do it :)

thanks for help tho

worked . TY !

[sinful scarab]

i’m a wizard!

[prisma ledge]

I think you mean "Wazzard"

[sinful scarab]

ew

not that creature

[prisma ledge]

It's a title
It just so happens that the only one we've met is terrible

[lucid dirge]

orlock brought ALOT OF LORE

am happy

[wet tulip]

who knew orlick knows spooder talk xD

the spooder whisperer

[ripe bone]

orlick x etheldred fanart incoming 👀

[bronze swift]

Guys, what is the round yellow zone with a book? I thought it was a quest zone but I didn't have any quest. :(

[ripe bone]

check with soul mode

also your journal

[bronze swift]

Ow, i'll check ! Thank you

[opal fable]

does only the 2 handed mendicant knight drop the new shield in the second fighting room of the new dungeon?

[tight vessel]

no

well any static spawning enemy

can be regular ones as long as they arent popping out the ground

[dusky socket]

Well, any static MENDICANT enemy, and only in the 2nd spawn area. The wyrms don't drop it, and the goopy troopers that come out the ground don't, as Pounce said

[opal fable]

thats at least better than what i thought

[tight vessel]

its still not good. 8 hours of farming and i got 1 fragment , sunk cost fallacy caught me 😭

especially because its like 90% a bug and will be hotfixed

[opal fable]

same, i randomly got 1 part so now i want the second one

many hours later still 1 part

[tight vessel]

thats how it gets you lol

[dusky socket]

Basically a 1% chance per run

[tight vessel]

it knows

[opal fable]

its also the last part i need to have everything again

what do people think of the cenotaph, i don't really like it so far

[halcyon thicket]

its ok, just another cleaver; there's nothing unique about the weapons

[tight vessel]

im missing this and nurash (200 hours of play and its never dropped 😭 )

[opal fable]

not so great damage and its another sword that feels like a club

yeah nurash is pretty rough, i only have 8 spare fragments

[pure shoal]

is there a daily standing cap limit for the factions?

[opal fable]

i think its 15k

[dusky socket]

16k

[wet tulip]

current max mr i guess xD

though didnt get the new dungeon motes yet so ill send another pic when i do

[pure shoal]

awesome thanks yall

[opal fable]

do motes give mastery?

[wet tulip]

unlocking the names give mastery exp yea

[dusky socket]

That's the biggest mastery gain you can get, like 12/13 levels after completing the whole map.

[opal fable]

i have them all besides the new dungeon, but i didn't know that

also the dungeon motes are absurdly rare it seems

[golden trellis]

Can anyone help me. I am stuck at "a grand fable" quest. I missed the learning rune part, now I cannot find it

[sinful scarab]

the first quest from Orlick?

[golden trellis]

yes mate 🙁

[sinful scarab]

you just equip a rune on your weapon

[golden trellis]

I dont have one 🙁

[opal fable]

time to get one

[sinful scarab]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Runes

[wet tulip]

so the wyrm is missing from the enemies codex huh?

[opal fable]

yeah it seems like it

which is weird since they are brand new

[wet tulip]

yeah id expect both system and current enemies to be on it

[sinful scarab]

how do we get mockeries and their souls in the codex?

[wet tulip]

thats a good question xD

since you cant smite pull them

and i guess the death smite pull doesnt register

[opal fable]

the mockeries and the big dogs just can't be put in the codex i believe

[sinful scarab]

someone got the soul

#envoy-gathering message

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

guess that envoy got lucky

and the bug didnt affect their codex xD

[vast pine]

has anybody had luck with the northernmost shipwreck(west coast south of mirafuir) spawning the sword to start a duelo? I've been seeing it spawn at every location but that one I think

[opal fable]

i have never seen that one, i saw people put it on the maps tho

[vast pine]

I got an initial ribbon from it doing the fable, but never a sword for the world version

[wet tulip]

on the funny note. anyone else getting infested tile set vibes on the new dungeon xD?

[tight vessel]

the wyrms are pulled straight from Deimos lol

[warm pasture]

is there ne benefit to recrafting weapons i already have except for lvlin the blacksmith?

[dusky socket]

There is no benefit at all, currently. The blacksmith only levels to 3, and doesn't gain any bonuses after 2.

Maybe if you want a copy of a weapon to put a different joinery on to make it work with a different build? But even then, probably only a couple of cases where this is even necessary for hitting damage cap

[sinful scarab]

how big are the fixes they doing for it to take this long

[smoky crater]

regular

[normal sail]

gotta pass the internal qa team first

[smoky crater]

they work at supersonic speeds tho right after a preludes update

[zenith knoll]

might be me tripping but the soundtrack reminds me of the ambient orokin tower one

especially with the choir, I am like 80% sure it's the same melody

[wet tulip]

infested tile set vibes. invisible grineer in dermak dungeon... where soulframe going xDDDD

[zenith knoll]

also before I head into lyke-wake frag farming hell, how many of em does it take to craft it? 2?

[opal fable]

yes 2

[zenith knoll]

aight thanks

[gentle quest]

Oh your poor soul

I do not envy you

[wary laurel]

just logged in and this alert appears... game seems to run well im in but just wanted to know if its something in my pc or from latest update ?

[warm pasture]

i dont even know how to get joinerys 🤣

i kinda stopped playign awhile back cuz i didnt know where to go wit hthe story, but now i wanna progress, finished the wolf story, time for the bear but i'm trying to lvl my prefered weapons

[dusky socket]

So very much not necessary to craft additional copies haha.

Joineries drop from a lot of sources in the game, enemies, bosses, sieges, chests, with higher tiers dropping from higher tier enemies/content.

[pure shoal]

so votives are missions used to get standing right?

[zenith knoll]

I have heard the tales but I am feeling brave.

[pure shoal]

after completing them do i have to turn them in or something, cause ive completed 3 but got no standing

[gentle quest]

Tell me that after 50 runs

[opal fable]

i thought tales were the missions for faction xp, and votives are the mini quests

[dusky socket]

Some Votives also lead you to kill bosses, specifically the Vadagar Bear/Stag which drop a range of high tier gear.

And no, you do not need to turn them in, they will auto complete on last step, Tier 2/3 have a little scene at the end. An NPC will also spawn nearby that let's you start another Votive.

[dusky socket]

DE has jumbled the wording around, technically Tales/Votives are the same thing, but they also call the little mini missions "Tales" so, can be confusing haha.

[verbal nebula]

Make sure you aren't already at the cap before next rank !

[pure shoal]

oh then ive done them but got no faction xp, i prolly did something wrong,

[verbal nebula]

Or remember that you have a daily cap of 16k. One of those.

[pure shoal]

these ones right?

[zenith knoll]

i'd say yes

Orlick's questline requires you to do 3 of those

[pure shoal]

so ive done like 5 and got no faction experience

im not hindered by the 16k just started and im not near level 2

[wet tulip]

had that too. restarted game and it began counting

[pure shoal]

ok bet ty

[wet tulip]

wait we talking about faction exp?

[pure shoal]

yeah

[wet tulip]

or the orlick quest to complete 3 tales?

[pure shoal]

faction

[wet tulip]

did you visit your faction atleash once?

[pure shoal]

yeah reached level 1 with them already

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

should keep getting more faction exp then

[pure shoal]

mesa confused as well

[past drift]

If you aren't seeing any problems you can ignore it. I get that all the time in warframe / soulframe

[vagrant kayak]

This is a network issue that can cause issues if you want to play multiplayer but shouldn't matter if you're solo, more info here: https://www.warframe.com/en/strictnat

The article is about Warframe but the issue is the same

[feral warren]

Ok so I am still trying to get Dewelion. Supposedly Sinecure-Errant Vella is still in the same entrance to Dermak Undercity but every time I go there the boss is someone else. Anyone know what’s going on?

[opal fable]

doesn't that one drop from a siege?

[feral warren]

It also drops from Kearnhold. But also drops from Vella.

[wet tulip]

it can drop from bunch of places but yea imo best farm kearnhold siege

[feral warren]

Yeah seige is on cooldown which is when I would try Vella.

[hollow portal]

do the infinite spawns dungeons still only give exp to pacts?

[vagrant kayak]

No you get weapon XP also

[verbal nebula]

Yeah they added new boss room in most dungeons and seems like that switch a bit generic banneret and specific banneret so I don't know where dewelion drops anymore (except kearnhold and collector). We gotta map it out again.

[past drift]

I had the same issue. no Vella

[feral warren]

Avakot.org doesn’t show Hewyl as a drop source either. Sheesh.

Ok well I did still get a piece from the siege at least. I don’t do shares so it will be an even longer grind. Hope we get the drop sources figured out.

[grizzled otter]

Where to farm the new Mestra armor ?

[lethal aurora]

Hello, i used this guide to install Soulframe on my steam deck. How do I uninstall it?

https://wiki.avakot.org/Guide:Soulframe_on_Steam_Deck

[meager tree]

Has anyone tested if returning the bow on the ship duel has any effect?

[alpine root]

I think its just a dialogue change lol

If you do the normal bow she makes a big deal about it in dialogue though

[meager tree]

Thats so cool. I heard on reddit the fight is easier if you bow

Like not returning the bow makes her very aggressive

[zenith knoll]

ONE DOWN

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/shia-labeouf-live-wijMRo7UZXSqA

[zenith knoll]

hotfix inbound

LYKE-WAKE DROP RATE BOOST LMAO

incredible timing

[wary laurel]

wth, thanks a lot boss i killed you and you destroy the only FLAME source for my torch to burn down red balloon at top terrace - no flame is sight 🤬

i cant take my tourch to lower levels of castle - torche drops from my hand

torch on the ground

[vast pine]

what does healheart do with the rune changes? does it only work on the handful of duration-based ones?

[desert wasp]

since when are 2 fragments needed for duhk halic? or is mine bugged? i swear it used to need 1

[hushed obsidian]

probably a bug

[lethal halo]

Are the organs not always active anymore? Last night I tried to go do an Oregon after doing maistra Carmo, and it was just sitting there and nearly ignoring me with no animals to pull out of the muck.

Then when I got so far away from it the guy in charge of the organ would make some kind of one to three word quip.

[dusky socket]

Anybody want to throw on a full Spirit Duelo build and see how high we can get our Spirit? XD

[hushed obsidian]

reforging with a regular blessed joinery won't reset weapon levels right?

[dusky socket]

It won't, only twice/thrice will

[hushed obsidian]

cool

[candid wagon]

i really wish our passives actually functioned this patch

[dawn hearth]

how do you unlock the blue dye for your armor?

[peak gust]

What determines if you get an s in the new siege

The lack of explanation for a vast majority of how to obtain things in this game is so frustrating. I did a run where I didn't die and cleared it in like 6 minutes and still got a B

[dusky socket]

Afaik (and I've tested this) you have to kill every enemy inside. (I've left one alive and gotten an S rank, but no rune. Left two/three alive, gotten A/B rank.) Mirifur likes to spawn more enemies even after bosses die, so make sure you do a clean sweep of the whole area and use Spectral Sight to guarantee you found them all.

[peak gust]

I'll try that I suppose. Do you happen to know the timer to redo this siege?

[dusky socket]

All sieges are 3hrs

[lethal halo]

Do we know the requirements for getting the different tiers of siege rewards? Time/kills/boxes broken? I feel like some folk, myself included, are going to want to aim for lower ranks on purpose.

[peak gust]

Thanks

[dusky socket]

I mean, I could be wrong, cuz I definitely don't know all things, but pretty sure it's not a "get A rank, only get rewards from A" but a "get A rank, get rewards from A and B." So, get S rank, you get a reward from all the rank pools.

[peak gust]

In all honesty if getting an S requires you to killll all enemies they should make it that you get a reward for the letter rank you get and all under it. So if you get an S you also get a reward from the a and b pool. It's quite weird to incentivise players to perform worse to get a specific reward.

I understand they want to pace rewards but incentivizing poor performance is dumb. Also the fragment system isn't long for this world anyway according to Steve so idk what they'll do

[opal fable]

did the hotfix fix the drops for the new shield, as in do the enemies that pop out of the ground now also drop it

[dusky socket]

I seriously doubt that's how it is. That's not how it was, nor is that how any of the other sieges are. The other sieges the rune is part of the S rank rewards, if you don't get S, you don't get a rune. If you get S, you get a rune.

But won't know till people try it, if they get S rank and get a reward from A or B, boom, we know.

[peak gust]

Also if this is the case for rewards that's horrendous

[dusky socket]

Well, someone go do the siege and get an S rank, I have to wait for 2.5hrs lol

[lethal halo]

Right? I feel like this theory is easy to test.

[opal fable]

one of the easiest way to get A rank at kaernhold was to just leave 1 enemy alive in the siege for me

[hollow portal]

i don't see my joinery info on my weapons anymore
Is that a bug or did they move the info?

[dusky socket]

Near instant ability recharge with 74 Spirit......baha

[opal fable]

lyke-wake drops have not been buffed by a huge amount, still seems pretty rare

[halcyon thicket]

Ye

[lament path]

Gunmage was one of my plans actually

[opal fable]

how do you get it that high?

[dusky socket]

Throw on a full Spirit Duello and come see how high we can get our Spirit with 2 buffs!!!

[dusky socket]

Full Spirit, use spirit elixir, Duello 2 buffs highest virtue, boom, 74

[opal fable]

ah the duello buff, damn its that strong?

since you are only at ~50 without that buff i assume?

[lament path]

My lack of dungeon running has come to haunt me, the gossamer quartz..

Avakots shop, my beloved

[dusky socket]

I'm at 52 without it. Could be 54 if I swapped fable points

[opal fable]

wait fable points still work like that? i thought they changed them

[dusky socket]

Afaik you still get 2 virtue points, per your selections. I don't remember seeing any changes in P14 patch notes, and pretty sure my Grace is 2 higher than my Spirit right now

[zenith knoll]

fellow gracemaxxers rise up

[opal fable]

i thought they were changed to be the same as the other floating points with the virtue rework, but i could be wrong

i really dislike how to plants in the new dungeon give kinda the same orange glow like motes

[formal veldt]

am i able to make a new envoy and start from scratch?

[twin skiff]

this is activating the one neuron in my brain

[smoky crater]

not without making a new account atm

optional resets are most likely coming eventually but we don't know when

[formal veldt]

hmmmm okay and if i make a new account no key access

[smoky crater]

mhm

you can replay the starting fables tho if that's something you were hoping to do

[dusky socket]

It's hilariously fun, just spamming Flintlocks like a madman

[formal veldt]

i just started awhile back and haven't had time to play much and have absolutely no clue what i was doin XD

[meager tree]

Can you fight the pirate after the quest? Or are you inly allowed those 3 battles?

[visual radish]

You can yeah just gotta manage to find the swords across allllll the wrecks

[meager tree]

Okay, I visited 3 sites, no swords. Bad luck?

[opal fable]

if you follow the map with the spawns yeah thats bad luck

[visual radish]

There are more sites
Heard something like 8 to 9 sites but havent checked myself

[opal fable]

the one on the top right has never spawned for me

[dusky socket]

They're all RNG based whether they spawn sword or not

[opal fable]

another 30 min of running the dungeon, 0 shield parts

[dusky socket]

It's been buffed slightly. Think from 1% to 5% chance. So instead of having to do 200+ runs to get them, you only need to do 20+ runs (although more like 50+ with the other variables involved.)

If it takes you like 3-4 mins a run, you're looing at 1-3 hours of straight running

[opal fable]

one day there are gonna fix that the underground boys drop it and its gonna be extremely easy

yay finally got it

[dusky socket]

Lol

[opal fable]

man the enemies flinching the moment you press 1 before you can shoot with duello is kinda annoying no

[gentle quest]

Just hold it for a moment

[tight trout]

Y'all get flinching enemies?

Mine just stand there and take it like good boys

[gentle quest]

Don't immediately fire

[gentle quest]

Ay what

[opal fable]

i want to quickdraw with my blunderbuss ofc

[gentle quest]

Then get in close so you'll hit them anyway

[halcyon thicket]

It's a fear mechanic when u cast abilities

[gentle quest]

Otherwise, hold the aim for a bit before you left click

[halcyon thicket]

Isn't that better? It gives u a second to actually aim

[gentle quest]

Besides, it looks cool too

[hollow viper]

the flintlock arcanic is the best thing they've added to the game. Blasting someone and obscuring them with a cloud of smoke only for it disipate and reveal them laying dead on the ground is so funny

[strange pebble]

Anyone know what graphics setting I should adjust to fix this odd 'ghosting' around the edges of the trees?
Vsync is on, no DLSS.

[tight trout]

I thought that was part of the game lol

[strange pebble]

It's something to do with Volumetric Fog

[patent swift]

So I'm not sure if I'm understanding the Joinery system correctly but did I just waste this material? It looks like nothing changed aside from going back to level 0

[opal fable]

it should have more spirit attunement

[patent swift]

Yeah for some reason it either doesn't or isn't showing it cause the numbers and icons are the same

[dusky socket]

Spirit joineries are bugged right now and don't show the pips in the UI

[opal fable]

mine has a once blessed by saphene and also only shows 3 spirit

[dusky socket]

Sorry, let me rephrase: Magick weapons seem to be bugged, and don't show pips from joineries in UI

[opal fable]

a fair enough

but the stats still work just an ui bug?

[patent swift]

Makes sense

[dusky socket]

I haven't sat down and done the testing yet to see, kinda hard when all my weapons were already blessed before

[opal fable]

oh do factions sell their own joinery as thrice blessed? or still bugged at twice blessed

[patent swift]

I don't even know how I got the one I had I'm pretty sure it used to be a different thing

Idk I changed my faction to get red colours a while ago and haven't gone back

[opal fable]

previously factions sold all colors of joinery blessed to their thing

[patent swift]

I never looked that deep into it tbh, Faction grinding is probably my least favourite right now.. though I have an absurd number of faction tokens to spend

[opal fable]

tokens are capped at 50

and faction grinding is pretty decent now imo, the dungeon quests in the north east rewards 2k+

[opaque viper]

I'm happy that faction token accumulate passively while doing stuff, was able to cash in 10K per faction while emptying my pockets once one of them capped

[patent swift]

More just running around to different trees to keep doing Tier 3s

[opal fable]

thats true

[opaque viper]

We just need a faction to sell bundles of brass xD

[opal fable]

is brass bad these days? i have 1k+ still from before they changed it i think

[opaque viper]

I had a relatively ok stock but the new pact was a bit brass heavy (i think it was 50) and i don't remember but i think some of the weapon needed it too :/

But yeah i've got 550 of the other metal and i think i'm around 80 for brass

[opal fable]

shame avakot only sells 10 of it at once

did they up the physics of the neath caps container

every time i break one the contains fly away at mach 10

[gentle quest]

FWAI

[velvet yew]

this damned pirate has been killing me perpetually. is it just the parry window, or is there something i'm missing? I barely deal any damage and she melts me in a few slashes, even if i get a lucky parry.

[proper compass]

Hello can someone help me im stuck in combat since yesterday and can go in Nightfold. What do i do ?

[frozen edge]

Skytower Mendicants finally dropped a frag and its Dewelion :/

[fluid bison]

Is there still no controller support?

[lament nacelle]

AYO?

[lament nacelle]

the game was designed for controller

hell im using controller rn

[last prism]

I realized I missed Thawtide. Will the birds you can earn return?

[sullen fox]

Okay, am I missing something about reforging?

For reference, I'm lookin at reforging my Sollos-I. When I look at the preview, it seems using Grey Gold, Sun Gold, Eldore, or Palladium have no visible effect, aside from adding their name to the bottom. Despite claiming they add damage, I don't see any change in the numbers to reflect that

Now, if I add Verite or Gildaur, they add an extra attunement symbol, and the numbers do change, but there seems to be no numerical difference between those two joineries either, they add the same amount of damage to the weapon regardless.

So what am I missing?

[halcyon sky]

What's considered a high level in soulframe?

[frozen edge]

The first 4 are depreciated, basically just souvenirs now. the other 2 are currently functionally the same

[sullen fox]

Okay, so I was right that the first ones do nothing then, thats good

And the other two are basically "do you like orange or purple"

[frozen edge]

for now, they used to be different and might be different again. I dont see it staying this way

[sullen fox]

Yeah, I'm purely talking right now, cuz I need to up my strength at the moment

[frozen edge]

but purple is clearly superior cause it is the best color

[sullen fox]

It also seems that leveling up your equipment via using it doesnt change anything with the number either, is that so?

Sorry, ranking it up

[frozen edge]

level does add to the damage calculations, but I dont remember if it shows up in the arsenal numbers

[fluid bison]

Anytime ive used controller it bugs out on me and crashes my entire game

[sullen fox]

Thats interesting, I've used controller since I joined

[sullen fox]

Okay, so then

I have Sollos-I as my current primary, its rank 16
Attunement is 3 Mora suns
Attack is (+54)96
Charged is (+108)192
Stagger 56
Smite 1 in 20
(these numbers have not changed in arsenal since rank 1)

Now I also have Wulder, rank 29

Attunement 1 mora sun
Attack (+62)100
Charged (+124)200
Stagger 64
Smite 1 in 25

Would I be correct in assuming that means Wulder is just more powerful? Like, if I reforge it until I get 3 mora suns, would it just continue to out damage Sollos in most every situation?

Or are there factors here I dont get?

[dense raven]

I play with Xbox controller. My husband plays with ps4 controller but he had to setup as a non steam account on steam to use the steam overlay

[left pecan]

it feels like doing a 3 hit combo with the rapier before blocking to reset the combo string is better dps when you cancel out the final wide sweeps it does in favour for mass stabbing

[fluid bison]

Appreciated

[frozen edge]

Sollos will be stronger. Its got a higher base damage and is uncommon, so it has a higher attunement bonus cap.

[errant mulch]

So dewlion drops from Mirifuir now it seems

[frozen edge]

Yeah, great for the guys struggling to get fragments to have an extra potential source, but I was killing them WITH the Dewelion when they dropped a fragment. so it felt like an extra special eff you

[sullen fox]

Thanks, I appreciate the explanation

[alpine root]

God leveling anything in this game is so slow

Nothing is enemy dense enough for it to be halfway worth it

[tired night]

true

[zenith knoll]

mimrod

[cerulean mauve]

is the coven cauldron quest bugged? I grabbed soulsbane and dewspore as well as created the ink but it does not show completed or am I missing something?

[digital tangle]

They changed a bunch of things while I’ve been busy what exactly happened to the Tiered (123) missions? Why is there only set stat affinity spreads?

[pure shoal]

quick question, im in the swamp rn and cant find vermina, anyone know where she would be. checked the 2 huts

[normal sail]

shes in a very familiar spot

where you first faced nimrod

[pure shoal]

ohhhhh ok ty ty

[frozen edge]

original location you found her

quest should have a circle on the map, it's just easy to miss

[pure shoal]

ty ty

[crystal nexus]

What's the most emotional story you've liked in Soulframe so far, guys?

[zenith knoll]

no time for dat wormie... got a last lyke-wake frag to grind

[sly escarp]

Faction Tales (star missions) can be picked up at world trees. You can get more prisms from faction shops and talking with faction leaders

[digital tangle]

Okay so it’s not just a silly forum now haha

[sullen fox]

The story of the Arbearer, for sure

That was genuinely tear jerking

[pure shoal]

the arbear for sure

[digital tangle]

That story does do a certain kind of punch in the gut 🥹

[sly escarp]

Bearrrrr

[digital tangle]

Given that this has essentially been my very first semi-single player pve story game, I’ve been having an outstanding time this past year

[pure shoal]

how does one get into the cloud tower

[sly escarp]

One doesn't yet

[pure shoal]

shoot, certified sad day

trying to figure out what to do since i did my standing cap

i need to level a lot of stuff

[sly escarp]

It's the Ode King's castle, gotta wait for them to make it into a proper adventure!

[pure shoal]

im excited for it.

[sly escarp]

Oh, for levelling just run some NE tales or maybe a cogah run

[pure shoal]

whats cogah?

[sly escarp]

Hard Mode

Ends on death, decreased healing, ability regen, enemies are higher level

[pure shoal]

oof, now that sounds like a blast

might have to go look for that

[sly escarp]

If you have Verminia, you can make a potion to start it once sh reaches Bond Rank 2

[pure shoal]

whats the name of the potion

nv got it!

which is weird it says shes only lvl 1

[sly escarp]

Potion is called The Cogah

[pure shoal]

oh, the whole world is cogah and ends when you die! WAAAAAAH

SOOO COOL

[sly escarp]

Yup!

And enemy levels increase with every Agari you kill in Cogah!

[pure shoal]

hohohoho, time to get to work. gonna make the best out of the one i have

should i inv others to level and stuff

[sly escarp]

Up to you. Having a party does make it easier to recover if you accidentally dodge into an Agari heavy swing

But it also removes some of the fun of taking on the world, just you vs the gods, imo

If you only have one potion a party is probably good for your first time though. Just make sure to invite BEFORE drinking the potion.

[pure shoal]

ahhhh so true! mhmmm, tricky. i only have one after all. ill give it a shot solo first prolly. lol to late rocking solo drank it

is there a time limit?

or just death

[zenith knoll]

some runes drop only from certain agari during cogah

[pure shoal]

oh thats cool

[zenith knoll]

death or log out

[pure shoal]

then to the death it shall be!

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-battle-fight-gif-24829111

[tiny loom]

It’s not to bad. Patience is your best friend

I managed to go for about 20 minutes with no gear

Just using Purity

[pure shoal]

hell yeah, im fighting my first agari, i am fighting the spider

welp i got merced

[tiny loom]

RIP

Spider is tricky though, lots of ads

Mendicant king imo has the worst amount of ads

What makes his fight hard is the 20 mendicant zombies

[pure shoal]

super super fun though, new goal, get good asf and run a sword instead of a bow next time..

That sounds painful and fun

[tiny loom]

From what I’ve heard Purity is one of the best weapons for Cogah

It’s a greatsword

Drops from mendicant king

[pure shoal]

i have the parts just need to build it

[tiny loom]

Sweet

[pure shoal]

just got to max rank everything and reach max mr. super fun and is challenging

[frozen edge]

King can be cheesed by ringing the bell over and over

[hexed hedge]

how do you start The Wreck of Mestra Carmo?

[wet tulip]

did you get sky tower motes xD?

which are super rare lol

[pure shoal]

lol im on the cusp of mr 9 i aint got squat

[wet tulip]

i got misled by this lol

[pure shoal]

lol thats fair, i like to dream big. games to fun not to

but i do still have a lot to learn especially in min maxing but i just like making fun builds

if you could say this game has builds

[quartz tide]

why why -why- with the unskippable cutscenes

[pure shoal]

cause they are peak

[quartz tide]

Thhey're great!

Once or twice!

[pure shoal]

thats fair

[frozen edge]

my god, finishered a soldier in miri siege and fell through the floor for a sec and then rubberbanded back into the sky. saw my entire run flash before my eyes

[pure shoal]

lmfao

[proper compass]

is this normal ?

[finite stone]

-# good luck

[tiny loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[wet tulip]

Damm this looks actually fun xD

[cloud palm]

Do I have to get A rank on Mirifuir to get Espadarte fragments or I could also earn them from S ranking?

[tiny loom]

I’m sorry, but are you a masochist?

Nimrod imo is one of the harder bosses

I could not do 5 of him

[polar ginkgo]

just gotta kill em. before they kill you. easy enough

[cloud palm]

Also, does anybody know how do you use Flyblades?

[rich karma]

you cant A ranks either doesnt exist or is broken, B rank drops it tho apparently

[cloud palm]

That is so weird

Idk why they can't have S rank just reward one of each rank instead

[dusky socket]

New meta Maestro farm? XD

[leaden yoke]

Anyone feel like the combat is too floaty and it needs a proper lock on system?

[cloud palm]

Yeah

[lament nacelle]

i would love a hard lock on ye

[cloud palm]

I also think weapons kinda lack uniqueness

[leaden yoke]

Every weapons too slow

[cloud palm]

Most weapons are "This other weapon but spirit" or "This other weapon but grace"

I kinda want them to add unique traits like in Warframe

[leaden yoke]

They need to remove the 10% attack speed buff from squirrels and just make everything faster

[cloud palm]

Like, rapiers having innate more parry window

[lament nacelle]

honestly alot of the longswords are pretty unique. some like Marrow have special backstabs or like Vetch where its attacks are mostly heavy stabs

[cloud palm]

Or basker's wresth having a DOT effect

[leaden yoke]

I was pretty excited when i found a dual wield daggers

I've been playing for a few months but im still getting the same 4 weapons blueprints

I don't understand why crypts need keys i don't feel like im getting more than other dungeons

[leaden yoke]

The new camera is pure motion sickness

I don't need the camera bobbing up and down when i jump

You know it doesn't make much sense there's no lockon when soulframe is just duviri from warframe and it has a lock on

[digital tangle]

I’m just bothered by inanimate (barrel crate etc.) lock on while enemies are nearby or fighting, other than that, frankly, I find the combat tolerable

And please bring back manual affinity spread 😭🙏

[cloud palm]

Ngl I also wish they gave us Drifter-Operator levels of faces

I dont really like the current faces for our Envoys

[digital tangle]

I like that we have more options now, I logged in and my updated envoy looked like it’d been dropped too many times before I fixed ‘em 😬

[wet tulip]

Not that hard for me lol

[cloud palm]

Idk, maybe it's my graphics setting but envoy faces dont look that good to me

What is the visual option for making character faces better looking?

[digital tangle]

They’re definitely… unique

[lament nacelle]

its still early

im sure something will come later once things are more stable

[digital tangle]

In Verminia’s appearance adjustment menu where you change eye color and the like click on the faces and there will be skin tone and shape options

[cloud palm]

I know that

I mean more so the graphics

[digital tangle]

You’ll have to play around with graphic settings if it’s visual clarity but I’m not sure of your hardware specs
I gotta sleep so best of luck 🫡

[jagged pilot]

how does the duello encounter spawn is it time based or world reset?

[pine adder]

just walked to a boss after the 30 mins and found no boss and instead this:

mildly unerving

[frozen edge]

leftover duelo dodge clone? crazy it doesn't despawn

[jolly crane]

paragon

[gleaming vortex]

which totem effects of sidearm still works even using primary weapon? i know the physical and magic armor works any others?

[atomic prairie]

hi quist says i have to complete 3 sparrow tales, are they the random quests the starrow takes me to is i have no quest chosen ?

quest

[dusty hatch]

I think thats supposed to be faction tales, meaning the quests you get from world trees. You might have to join a faction first though, not sure how the quest works if you are not in one yet

[atomic prairie]

ah i maxedin all 3 mr17 almost 18, just came back tosay after a break

shit my typings bad

[dusty hatch]

then you should be able to just do 3 random tree quest and have it checked off

[atomic prairie]

kk ill give it a go, been doing all sorts of quests and no luck

cheers

[dusty hatch]

The entire thing is buggy af, same with the journal entries. Im currently on a different quest step were I have to read a note and it doesnt work, after relogging the note isnt there anymore but neither is the quest showing up with the sparrow, even when highlighted in the journal. This is the buggiest prelude so far, for me personally

[atomic prairie]

beings me back to early warframe days,

[pure shoal]

by chance does anyone know how to get into jotar?

[prisma ledge]

You don't yet
Key word being yet
It's the next siege they're adding

[pure shoal]

noice!

[dusty hatch]

Are there any recent new locations you can get motes from, other than New Viscii Dungeon?

[pure shoal]

so question, lets say, hypothetically before i try, will i get in trouble if i find a way into jatar?

[upbeat cradle]

soulframe is in a pre-alpha, we're testers, do what you'd like

[pure shoal]

hell yeah, thats awesome. was worried id get in trouble. anyways got in.

[prisma ledge]

Anything interesting in there?

[pure shoal]

once you get in you can open the door giving access, then scrap metal, one set of doors is locked rn rather small so id be expecting a lot of cqb like fighting. seems good for swords

[stray oriole]

Does anyone know what the Chamariz passive upgrades do for Duelo?

[pure shoal]

door on left is locked

[atomic prairie]

did they remove hail of arrows on bows, new bow has a arrow atab instead

stab

[upbeat cradle]

avex is the only bow to have this heavy attack

all other bows do arrow hail like normal

[atomic prairie]

ahh k im using that atm havent touched a bow since i got back

[lethal halo]

I don't play saphine that much. How is the increased chance to smite(?) feeling with the change to charges?

[ripe sonnet]

its charged shots have piercing too while it hits like a brick. More of a sniper bow then the others

[atomic quartz]

Are the Duelo arts for the dodging and bleed worth investing into?

[knotty imp]

hell yea

[visual ibex]

i love dodging more than parry so yea

[pure shoal]

anyone need help with anything. aint super stacked but i can be cannon fodder

[dusty hatch]

That really depends on your playstyle I would say. I never use dodge or dodge attacks, I find it tedious and inefficient to implement that into the fighting flow. Others might differ

[finite stag]

which one is better and why is the one green moon on the left shining?

[frozen edge]

shiny icon is 5 pips

[light dew]

@frozen edge why i don't have shiny icon

[ripe bone]

possibly a bug with how they converted feybalt

[frozen edge]

cause the magic stuff are bugged visually

I dont think even a single one of my magic weapons are displaying correctly atm

[light dew]

Do we need to reinforce them again?

[gleaming vortex]

if pact skill kills enemy, is exp all to pact like warframe or split to weapons?

[frozen edge]

Id wait and see what they do first to fix stuff

Not sure what the current system is, not been too focused on leveling stuff. exp used to be split for a long time and then a short while ago stuff like smite were all going to pacts

[wet tulip]

Mockery smite kill splitting exp now

[rapid frost]

The drop rate is a damn joke, I have just spent 3 hours farming the Fallen Ode'n Skytower and all I have to show for it is 18 Nettle Fragments and 1 Cenotaph fragment. I feel like DE is purposely keeping the drop rate so damn ridiculously low in order to force you to just spend money to buy the new crap because its faster, easier, and less of a damn headache!

[fickle wind]

good game

[frigid agate]

Clearly that village has been colonised by the Spanish.

[gusty sky]

duelo clone just decides to stick around sometimes.

[knotty imp]

incredible theatre kid energy

[gusty sky]

the one that's shrouded is in this pose.... With a very questionable wrist.

[finite stone]

This is the kind of bug we love lmao

[dusky socket]

Have y'all enjoyed the multiple Mestra bugs on the ship?

[frozen edge]

I never got that one. Someone posted multi Nimrod earlier too. That'd be fun.

[dusky socket]

Had 10 on here at one point lol

[gusty sky]

Never happened on my mestras and I did alot of it for the full set.

[dusky socket]

Multi Nimrod would be...how do you even see anything XD

[dusky socket]

It's when you're in a party, host hops off ship, let's them interact with the sword and spawns another Mestra

[gusty sky]

Ah

[gloomy hazel]

how many players are affected by not being able to attack after dodges; makes combat really unenjoyable..

[knotty imp]

yep, have this happening often now, extremely aggravating

[next rampart]

is there a timer for how long you can stay in wolf form to travel with orengall pact? any indicators or anything that have been added to let you know when to attack so you dont teleport back to starting location?

[finite stone]

There is no timer yet, but players have been asking for them for a long while! https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1469302675903611256 worth throwing a +1 and any feedback you have in threads like that one

[next rampart]

will do, ty!

what did preludes 13 mostly add? i know it changed the virtues and how the faction grinding worked, but was there other in world content that was addded?

[mellow python]

Preludes 13 added the organs and the Vadayar Bear as world content

[full hearth]

Preludes 13 was Virtue Rework, Votives, The Organ, Vadagar Bear, Envoy customization and various camera changes to name few.

https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/9461-soulframe-preludes-13-a-triquetra-of-virtues/

[next rampart]

awesome, ty! looks like some new gear too

[full hearth]

This is all in addition to Preludes 14, which we are currently in.

https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/10655-soulframe-preludes-14-the-duelo/

So, lots to do.

[sick spindle]

That’s not a bug- that’s a perk

Or a friend, really if you think about it

[gusty sky]

Bugs can be boons, See: Coptering back in yee olden days....

Or when grace was bugged and applied headshots to everything equally and made it so magick weapons could headshot (returned to no headshot mult with p14)

[smoky haven]

first time doing the new siege, i get my last fragment

[kind narwhal]

I hope we get to fight demons at some point

After the tutorial island

[limber prism]

i think we need a cogah rework. like, if we kill every agari on the map, we unlock a special arena where we fight the three goddesses

[sly escarp]

Probably not fire and brimstone, but could see some sort of Corrupted that's got some similarities maybe

[kind narwhal]

Maybe a future thing

I want a sincure armor set

[sly escarp]

The game is firmly fantasy, but avoids a lot of the typical tropes in favour of their own aesthetic. For example, we've been told we'll get Dragons, but suspect they won't be giant flying fire breathing lizards.

[kind narwhal]

There are different types and sizes of dragons

Even ones that cant fly

[sly escarp]

Yep! We already have a Wurm, which is apparently a giant centipede thing in Soulframe.

Which is a pretty cool take on Wurms

[kind narwhal]

Just think it would be cool to fight a firery demon

Go into an underworld thingy

[sly escarp]

Could see a firey ghost at the very least! Fenn and clan Jotar have strong ties to Mora!

[kind narwhal]

Those ghost tree things are cool

I've seen them fight the sincure

[sly escarp]

The Mockeries?

[kind narwhal]

Yea

[sly escarp]

Yeah, they're interesting. Even have their own language!

[kind narwhal]

Sincure got to close and the tree things destroyed them haha

[sly escarp]

Not really a fair fight. The mockeries can't be killed by Sinecure

[kind narwhal]

Still funny

The sincure will also fight those slug things too

[zenith knoll]

the game does not seem to be interested in giving me my last lyke-wake frag

the people who said frags only dropped from pre-spawned knights may be onto something because that's how I got the first one

in which case it might not be a drop rate issue but just a drop issue

[grand island]

Ok im just about ready to be done with this game im trying to do this damn smoke tower thing and at the and its having me do some kind of rhythm thing