gameplay-discussion

[knotty moon]

All in all it looks all very good, I'm looking forward to it.

[sly escarp]

Love the new weapons and pact, new dungeon is hype, and new siege is always welcome. Hoping the runes rework doesn't tie all of them to heavy attack - some are more useful on other trigger conditions, like Flitsmoke triggering on finisher

[faint badge]

Still haven't maxed out my oscelda is 😫 it's been slow with the sparrow tales, does it have to do with the pact or magic changes ?

[smoky haven]

found them. they're heavy blocks on the stone walls

[knotty moon]

Couldn't tell you, got my Pacts maxed since P9/P12.

[smoky haven]

i haveno no idea how XP works 😛

[faint badge]

Thinking if I should have started earlier or delay till we have more polish,tempted to cash in as time is scarce for me.But seeing them talk of rarity I'm a bit cautious.

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Gameplay#Item_Leveling

[smoky haven]

omg... i just finished glades, but the sparrows tale was for undercity...

[knotty moon]

One thing you can do (alone) to speed it up is to pop a Cogah and do The Organ, then don't free the animals and instead run around killing the spawns.
Not quite as fast as the Glades arena, but much less setup needed.

Though if you still have Faction stuff to do, doing that is more efficient in the end.

Tbh there is no real need to max it all out now, you can wait for P14 content and exp stuff while doing that.

[faint badge]

To be honest I don't think my skill level is at a point where I can solo a Cogah run, I'm still roaming with oscelda and starter staff

[knotty moon]

Newly started Cogah sets enemies to lvl 40-ish iirc, you can check if you can run it by going to the northeast and see if the enemies there give you trouble.

[tight plover]

how does leveling up the combat arts work? it feels like I've stopped getting points for my greatsword and its been a bit

[weary knoll]

Iirc every 5 levels is a point to the weapon arts

[knotty moon]

You get 5 points per weapon (must be unique, no copies).
Specifically at levels 1, 5, 11, 19, and 30.

The gap from the fourth point to the last one is quite big.

[tight plover]

oh okay I see

thank you both

[smoky haven]

after leveling Avex to level 30 twice, i finally understand how the splinter thing works

[knotty moon]

Probably not very useful on Avex since it lacks the Arrow Hail, though I never found it overly useful anyway.

[gaunt mason]

are you able to reeset your account foir the chararcter creation part

[sly escarp]

No, but you can replay the quest, and you unlock deeper character customization later in the game

[knotty moon]

No, but you can change stuff at ||Verminia's|| station.

[gaunt mason]

im just tryna change to a girl character

[knotty moon]

You can do that later.

[sly escarp]

That is unlocked once you complete Brewer of Hues

[half talon]

once you unlock verminia, you will be able to freely swap

[gaunt mason]

thank you Ive had souldframe since we could get early access and I finally havve time to play it so im tryna fix what I made a mistake on

[rose condor]

the game have region lock?

[half talon]

You can freely move around the map, but you might die to harder enemies

[knotty moon]

I think purchases do, but the game itself shouldn't.

[faint badge]

Wait we got forma system?

[knotty moon]

Kinda, Blessed Joineries works similar to it.
They reset the rank and add an attunement pip, otherwise the stats are the same as a Polished, you can't double up on it like the Formas though.

Also note that Joineries are up for rework.

[smoky haven]

its a weird system

[faint badge]

Ah so that's what joineries do, I take it curtains items are meta ,you y'all use Cogah to rank up weapons that are just for MR?

Certain*

[knotty moon]

Most people use the Glades arena to rank up stuff.

There is always a meta, but it is not really worth pursuing imo, mostly everything is viable at high levels for now.

Armor and Prim are the only things that I would choose for stats outright.

[final rock]

Runes can carry weapons from my experience

[faint badge]

Armor I hear is flat so what's the go to ?

[knotty moon]

Depends on the Prism you are using, but generally the three stars ones.

[final rock]

Orengall, Wazzards, and Mendicant probably

[dapper rain]

mockery is good and bear

[rose condor]

no that kind of region lock

i have a friend in cuba he reclaim a code

and the game dont open

[knotty moon]

That might be a different problem, as far as I know it shouldn't happen.

[half talon]

Have him reach out to support.soulframe.com

They will be able to assist with this issue

[stuck cove]

yo thats a cool outfit

what do you have on rn?

[tiny loom]

Pact looks like Garren

[smoky haven]

fire king outfit

[stuck cove]

oooooh

and you made it greeeeeen

I think

[smoky haven]

no 😛

[zenith pike]

Is it possible in soulframe for a dungeon to generate without an exit?

[knotty moon]

Not to my knowledge, where does the birb takes you?

[zenith pike]

my bird keeps pointing me to a wall

i tried going around every corner and it just points me to the same wall in the glades

[knotty moon]

Screenshot? (map too)
Might be a puzzle.

[zenith pike]

I went out XD

but its this part right here were theres a wall

this part was entirely blocked and the bird keeps on pointing at this direction

[knotty moon]

Might be worth getting the logs and send them to support as instructed here: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438226708154286101.
I don't think I have seen anyone mention it before.

[wary laurel]

How to find other virtue prism?

[knotty moon]

Factions.

[ember jacinth]

Hey guys, how can I get an invitation to play? Thx.

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message

Next announced devstream is on the 21st.

[dense umbra]

ahh just where I wanted to be

[ember jacinth]

ok, thx a lot, have fun

[hardy sphinx]

can someone confirm whether they are going to change how the joineries works?

i think i heard something for p14 or p15

[knotty moon]

Yep, was said so on the devstream.
Don't remember if for P14 or later though.

[hardy sphinx]

do you remember what will change?

[knotty moon]

They didn't go into too much detail, and I vaguely remember something about attunement.
Didn't pay too much attention to it.

[hardy sphinx]

yeah ill se eif i find over on the p14 devstream. thank u

[knotty moon]

It is for P14: #soulframe-news message

[hardy sphinx]

so, basically they will change and basically will add 1 to 3 attunement to the weapon.

[gaunt vault]

Can somebody enlighten me, what to do with this mirror? Never saw that one before

[knotty moon]

That's a puzzle, find the other mirrors and guide the shaft of light to the statue near some vines.

That particular one can't be redirected.

[gaunt vault]

So that one stays blocked and I have to find another one?

Cause that one is right next to the sprite and I thought I had to get rid of the chains and flower somehow

[dapper rain]

[00:38:14] In Perles 14, the role of joineries will be simplified uh to focus purely on attunement. Yes. adding between one to three attunements to your weapon during reforge. Existing joineries are not being removed, but rather worked into this system. And I have an important point from Mr. Joe Buck here. the bless joineries that offer plus 25 damage. That is going to be tied into when you rank your weapon to 30.

[dapper rain]

sometimes better then spending bunch of time.
majority of times when the bird mess up or seems confused in glades its been when there is ➕ tile circle raised platform in center and have to activate stag statue so its facing door,

[gaunt vault]

Okay, I give up, I only see one beam of light, that hits one mirror with two settings, one setting is hitting the mirror with the flowers above, the other one just hits a wall. Logout it is

[dapper rain]

its like water. keep workin the pipe towards where u want it to go. its useful to kno where that is. typically if the light is pointing at grass that one is the wrong direction

[dapper rain]

used spectrasl sight for mirriors somewher below or above the light beam need to get knocked into position?

[dapper rain]

looks familiar...is it part of a really tall tile with rope bridges?

[gaunt vault]

yeah

That is the beginning

[dapper rain]

thrown weapon at ?

[gaunt vault]

yeah, thats the mirror i mean. Setting one:

Setting two

[dapper rain]

send inv? OuroborosGhost.VirChoose

[knotty moon]

That is likely the wrong path, might be worth going back one more mirror.
Or it might be bugged, that is a possibility too.

[modest belfry]

how can i play i need an invite?

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message

Next announced devstream is on the 21st.

[gaunt vault]

apparently it was. Probably. Maybe, We couldnt figure it out

[heavy ore]

hey guys, anyone have a spare friend invitation?

[wary laurel]

i was stuck in a catacomb quest couldnt find exit for 30mins (couldnt find puzzle to move statues bloacking door but finilly found it out)... if i log off game will i repawn in catacomb or overland at green glow stone?

[gaunt vault]

Overworld next to your animal buddys, Quest will reset

[wary laurel]

perfect thx

[faint badge]

Btw fellow envoys if gear and weapons are tied to the 3 stats what's the incentive to buying them with arc ?

[vagrant kayak]

Buying gear from the market means you don't have to farm it, spend resources or wait for the craft to finish, also comes with a weapon/Pact slot

[faint badge]

And if you don't meet the station requirements?

Stats*

[vagrant kayak]

You can still use any weapon without meeting the requirements, they'll do their base damage + joinery damage, you just won't get scaling until you meet the requirement

Meeting those reqs also isn't that hard, you get access to the 3 starter Prisms right after Torment Stag

[faint badge]

Noted, Ty for the info now the question is if store weapons will be regular or higher tier after gear drop change.

[vagrant kayak]

We'll have to see when the new system has more details but any weapons bought on the Market will be the same as those you grind

Tier-wise at least, depending on what the RNG element will be there may be some guaranteed element to Market weapons, I'm sure we'll get more info closer to P15

[wary laurel]

do i have 3 Alca runes accumulated ??? can i release 2 of them and keep 1 for my bow? ...or this number is not quantity but indeed LVL 3 upgrade Alca ???

[crude valve]

you have 3 and can release 2, if its leveled up its takes another slot and would be worth much more on release

[limber nexus]

Anyone think weapon requirements should be removed? I like the scaling changes but for me the new system as a whole took me from using 10+ weapons to now like 3 lol, I’d assume it’s the same problem for others

[dire helm]

I think the requirements can stay, but need to be split on all weapons with split attunements, and they should be proportional to the base attunement of the weapon.

They've done that for a few so far, and that's worked out well. I just wish they would do the rest.

[cosmic hull]

i have problem i cant interact with the tree

[dire helm]

You interact with a puddle of sap on the ground, not the tree itself.

Should be at the base of a tree.

[finite stone]

I don't think you need to, right? Your objective is 'Drip the Sap into Verminia's Cauldron'

From the walkthrough, it looks like you're here @cosmic hull

[cosmic hull]

thanks

[autumn musk]

did they change the cdr talent to healing efficiency ?

[finite stone]

Yep in P13

[autumn musk]

yikes

[sly escarp]

Spirit now reduces cooldown

So they wanted to avoid double stacking

[autumn musk]

i see

grace finisher thingy, and cour is atk right

[sly escarp]

Courage is health and access to better armour

Grace is increased stealth damage, finisher damage, headshot damage, and better weapon virtue scaling

[autumn musk]

hs ? cool

how is the stat distribution to skill

[sly escarp]

Courage for red ability, Spirit for green, Grace blue

Scales all relevant parts of the ability

[autumn musk]

still the same

[sly escarp]

No, before it was Courage strength, Spirit duration, Grace range

[autumn musk]

oh yea yea

[sly escarp]

Now it's Courage scales everything in the red ability only

[autumn musk]

anything else other than bear and organ ?

i could just look at the patch notes nvm

[sly escarp]

Pretty much just those, some mini quests, and the Virtue overhaul

[opal schooner]

how exactly do the mobs scale? With my level, or in the different zones? I want to level up my dagger, but I'm barely doing any damage.

[sly escarp]

Different zones

The more East/North, the higher the enemy level

Though the SE enemies are no slouch either

[prime rivet]

hello dont know if this is a bug but sometime when i got a smite , my bar will refil when i attack some mobs someone have this too ? its like 1 minute i got this rune buff

[winged garnet]

One of the Garren Rood passives increases rune duration if you regain health while the rune is active

[prime rivet]

ho so the , heal steal is count on it ^^'

well its a pretty op combo

[keen river]

i am so curious to know what kind of keyboard setup you have where &, E, and " are your ability keys

[prime rivet]

azerty

[keen river]

never actually seen one of those in the wild before, neat

[twin skiff]

Combine this with the dagger stealth rune and you're cooking with gas

[smoky crater]

disgustin

[inland nebula]

I love how the Steve Signature Camera Bug is still a thing.

It doesn't affect the gameplay at all because it's only with non-prerendered cutscenes.

The "bug" being that you can sort of move the camera.

For any devs stalking the chat, please don't fix this, it's been a thing since darkSector and it's really funny

[smoky crater]

is that even a bug?

[halcyon thicket]

You mean real-time cutscenes?

I don't think so no

[void roost]

hey guys, are the founder stuff worth buying? like those armors and stuff are good?

[smoky crater]

armor, not really. weapons, mostly yes.
Arcs are mainly what make them worth it

ofc the pacts too

[void roost]

can u explain to me? im thinking of buying to get access to the prelude but I dont want to spend on something that will be useless pretty quickly or smth haha

[halcyon thicket]

Think of it as an early access pack

[void roost]

hmm

yeah I like the sword skin too haha the tragedy of getting to the fashionframe endgame on warframe

I dont have anyone to give those 2 prelude access tho

[halcyon thicket]

U can save them for later, or give them to ppl here

[void roost]

yeah, ok I will ask my girlfriend then probably buy it, I never played a souls game before tho

[smoky crater]

not a souls game

[void roost]

no?

oops

[smoky crater]

nnnope

might have Soul in the name but that's not what it means

[void roost]

hahaah okok thank you, its an rpg tho so I already like it

[regal quarry]

Damn I've finished all the content

I guess I could grind rep until max before next patch... I'm also missing a few Coagh runes I guess ...

[lament path]

I can throw two codes your way if you just want to try it out first

[void roost]

how does codes work? like I can try the game and then give it back to u?

[lament path]

They are consumeable but I just have a whole bunch, some of them from watching streams

You can always buy a founders pack later and pay it forward

[void roost]

ohhh I see, that would be so kind of you

[wary laurel]

IMO sincerely hope weather is going to be a parameter, because being constantly blinded by sun dawn / daytime / dusk, its getting really annoying... hope there will be rain (mud sinks us) - wind (deviates arrows/daggers) - ice /slipery) and snow (slows down sprint and dims health)

[fickle stirrup]

Hello everyone 🙂 Do we know when there will be another stream? I am also looking for a chance at getting a code 🙂

[normal sail]

April 21st is the next Envoy Hour

[fickle stirrup]

Ah long way to go, alright! Thanks a lot 🙂

[tiny loom]

How do I unlock faction tales? i already joined an enclave but they do not show up on the map

[thin hazel]

you need to go to a world tree, it's a bounty board system!

[tiny loom]

OH

I never would of figured that out

[undone prawn]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[opal barn]

I hope the mounts aren't just mounts it should have it's own passive tree
Maybe one could be an ability similar to the orengall passive where they pop up attack and leave

[carmine cypress]

Quick question: if my Pact and main hand weapon are already level 30, does all the XP go into the off-hand weapon? Or is XP still split as usual and some of it just gets wasted?

[thin hazel]

the weapon needs to be in hand to receive exp for your kills unless you're in a party, then other player's exp goes to all weapons and the pact!

[whole owl]

There's no carry-over in soulframe? 👀

[carmine cypress]

Ok, then I will use some time offhand as the main weapon 😉

[thin hazel]

OH unless, of course, you do stuff like tales, those give exp to all stuff!

the reward exp for completion, specifically

[wary laurel]

twice i´ve killed queen crawler in her pit and also the king crawler underground (finally found the correct entry) and still no RUNE drop, for my Envoy´s pack short blade... ohhh well, i rarely use it 😂

[opal barn]

Do I have to complete the bear tale for the wazards of wastes to start spawning?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[opal barn]

Okay thanks

[wary laurel]

IN RED --- how do i release all these animal spirits i dont use ??? i dont have any crafted sword, shield, staff... how about those runes also ?

[smoky crater]

well i wouldn't suggest getting rid of all of them, i'd say keep a single of each one atleast so that when you do get a weapon it fits on, you have one

[frigid spoke]

Keep three of each'

[smoky crater]

you can release them in the same totem screen in the arsenal tho but select "Compendium" and unselect the other one

bottom right

[wary laurel]

i never use shield or staff... ever ! may keep sword OK

[frigid spoke]

You will in this game if you want to fully rank up

[visual radish]

Also it's not like those take inventory

[lament path]

I keep 4 of each beast totem in case they get changed or something gets added that makes them more useful like the kicking totems.

[wary laurel]

but i was thinking gaining $$$

🤣

[frigid spoke]

You don't gain money for them, just a material to upgrade.

[lament path]

An extra if I accidentally throw one away

[frigid spoke]

Not hard to get really, just run and capture em as you go to missions

[wary laurel]

yes amaterial of course

[lament path]

They are okay for the dust but runes give 2k each.

[wary laurel]

thx, envoys - went from 2K amaterial to 52K... kept 3 of each for future weapons i never used 👍

[wary laurel]

for the symmetry-OCD in me, future Inventory will let me organize / filter by category, hopefully 😂 - im never bored at the cashier of supermarkets as i wait my turn... i just re-arrange by brand, flavors, colours the packs of sweets, gums, that people take and dont put back in the initial place - they should pay me for those 5 mins of OCD 🤣

[white willow]

Does anyone know if they're going to give away more premium currency for the next Prelude?

Did they say something? haha

It was because it had more gaps

[fresh socket]

who's the human trash can that reported me until I got kicked from recruiting

FOR BEING AN ENDLESS TAXI

[safe canopy]

it was me

[smoky crater]

no info buuuut could happen.

[fresh socket]

they really need real moderators

[white willow]

I wish

[safe canopy]

i hope not

[smoky crater]

why not?

[fresh socket]

been a taxi for endless the entire day, then my pc crashed and I was getting a new room while talking in chat, they reported me over and over for nothing lol

[smoky crater]

oh lol

[fresh socket]

I hate people with literally zero spine or intelligence

[safe canopy]

free stuff would be okay if you have paragon or something, but for all seems meh

[white willow]

So they want us to test the game, right? We need space, lol

[smoky crater]

wha...

they've literally given us free arcs multiple times before

[visual radish]

That has no logic behind it

[halcyon thicket]

It's prealpha there's gonna be free currency

[visual radish]

Just sheer pettiness

[white willow]

I only have 100

[whole owl]

don't they still give 100 per prelude?

[smoky crater]

think they do

[fresh socket]

whoever it was I hope you stub both your big toes every single morning for the rest of your life

js

[halcyon thicket]

Not every prelude, like p12 didn't have any i think

[smoky crater]

hmmm

[halcyon thicket]

P13 did

[smoky crater]

i know for a hotfix in P10 they did, and for P11 they also did

[visual radish]

Basically around major changes i'd say

[white willow]

I started with Prelude 13

[whole owl]

Uh, reports shouldn't do anything if you're not breaking TOS/EULA

Actually, they might actually get in trouble for making false reports

[fresh socket]

they did it like 10x in a few min until I was removed from recruiting and suspended apparently

I'd love to speak to a mod about it

[halcyon thicket]

Dm #discord-mod-mail

[whole owl]

Open a support ticket https://support.soulframe.com

[fresh socket]

ty ❤️

[whole owl]

modmail is for discord related stuff

[barren scroll]

Please contact https://support.soulframe.com/ for further inquiries on why you go kicked.

Please do not discuss any moderation anywhere inside of this discord. Thanks

[fresh socket]

I've put in a ticket, thank you, sorry about that

[barren scroll]

Hi there please discuss the wiki or ideas you have for it separately in a different space. This discord is meant for soulframe related content only, with allowance of useful and helpful links from the wiki which are allowed to be posted to assist members in questions they might have. ☺️

[glad tusk]

Am I allowed to ask gameplay questions in this chat im experiencing quite the bug preventing happiness at the moment haha

[barren scroll]

Your best bet is to either report the bug in #1438224825113120788 and if it is further then a bug and a general experience problem you can make a thread in #1438224662344761345

[scarlet pawn]

What should i do in the first quest where i need to find someone who haunts the tower ?

[smoky crater]

go into the tower

[thin hazel]

in the tower there's a room you enter a tad up the stairs, hold Q to use spectral sight, it helps with seeing clues (stuff that will glow gold).

[scarlet pawn]

ahh ty it was glowing blue but the light was soo low that i didnt noticed that xd

[thin hazel]

all good!

[wary laurel]

VIRTUE PRISM - other than the ones i got from purchasing an envoy pack, the others prism are only adquired at our enclave pact (npc merchant) correct ? i need to upgrade my favour lvl - its by doing missions posted at giant trees ?

[smoky crater]

yes

[visual radish]

There are also basic ones you get just from talking to each faction

In a "here take this and stop bothering me" kinda way

[void roost]

guys I have a question

what is this yellow stuff

I found 2 of these but I cannot interact with it

[smoky crater]

those reveal the locations name and histories

[spring flame]

hold q and left click to take it up

[smoky crater]

you can yoink them with if on M&KB, Q+left click

[carmine cypress]

Any recommendations on what to do with faction points after I’ve bought all weapon/armor/pact parts? Should I spend them on crafting poisons?

[spare badge]

That's a history mote. Smite it ot unlock part of the location's name.

[wild crag]

I really love this game and I can’t wait till it releases to more platforms. The only feedback I have is bigger parties. Scale enemies in difficulty to bigger parties. My friend group always struggles because we’re with 4 or 5. We don’t mind if the game gets harder because the game scales. That’s actually more fun to us at least.

And scale enemies in the world. Having some enemies super easy because it’s the beginner area and the same enemies super hard somewhere else feels a bit weird. Especially if it’s the same mob.

[void roost]

ohh okok ty

[tiny loom]

I've started hearing voices after cleansing my last 3-4 trees. This just coincidence or more lore?

[opal barn]

What's the difference btw baskers wrest and odiac ?

[tiny loom]

-# Yes I am talking about the game

[dire helm]

What are the voices saying? Lots of people talk to us telepathically in this game.

[tiny loom]

Very Cryptic, the name just reads as ???

It all kinda refrences nature stuff

And sounds female

[dire helm]

Do they sound french? It's probably verminia I would guess.

[tiny loom]

No

I already got Vameria so I shouldnt read as ??? too

[sly escarp]

Alora

She'll talk to you if you cleanse a world tree, and sometimes in the login page

[dire helm]

I've never heard her talk in either of those cases. The only time I've heard her voice is after dealing with an agari.
Thanks for solving that mystery, Naito!

[sly escarp]

For sure!

[amber anvil]

When does daily enclave rep reset?

[normal sail]

00:00UTC, or in an hour

[silent mauve]

hows the game now nowadays i didnt rlly like it bc the traveling was slow last itme i played was like few months ago

[smoky crater]

Traveling is the exact same

[opal barn]

Where do I get fragments for seathorn ?

[spare badge]

Fast travel's been a thing for many a prelude.

[silent mauve]

i remember there being a system where it was capped or something i dont remember

[smoky crater]

It still is yes

[spare badge]

You get 1-3 seeds per pickup. It refeshes 12 hours after you pick them.

[smoky crater]

3 star votives

[opal barn]

Any faction?

[smoky crater]

Any faction

[opal barn]

Okay thank you

[smoky crater]

Tho suggested to do with some other faction than kith because they also have Baskers in the droptables

[opal barn]

Okay good Thin I'm with alcas children

[brazen sparrow]

i don't think i've ever seen the map double over itself..

[tiny loom]

how far can I travel in the Werewolf form of the orgenal pact before it deactivates? i love using it to travel quickly but i am worried it will run out mid sprint and send me all the way back

[left kite]

they are other factions ?? how ?

there*

[fringe tendon]

@tiny loom I think that mechanic needs to change, what should happen is wherever you run out of juice that is where you turn back into your envoy, not throw you all the way back

[tiny loom]

Okay, but do you know how long it lasts?

[fringe tendon]

I would guess at least 20 seconds but not sure

I'm not at the point where I want to be in the game and I'm thinking what now?

now

[left kite]

any idea how to find trees easier ?

[opal barn]

How do I get to the third moaner in the mock nor moan faction quest ?

[sly escarp]

Just to be clear: you don't turn into a wolf when using the ability

You summon a wolf you can control, but your body stays behind. If enemies find your body and attack it, the ability can end early.

[sly escarp]

Follow the bird!

[vocal grove]

heblo soulframers i come to ask how the combat actually feels
to me it looks reminicent of games like elden ring and im curious to know how you guys think it compares to games like that
i know the world exploration and building and etc is very different but im just curious as to the way the movement in combat feels

[visual radish]

closest imo is witcher
mostly because we don't have a stamina mechanic here

[vocal grove]

interesting

[spare badge]

There is no werewolf form. Only a wolf drone summons. You'd need to check the wiki for if it scales with courage for duration, because they reworked how all the virtues stuff works.

[normal sail]

Effect duration is [Courage+40] seconds.

so you get around a minute or so before you get sent back to where you started

[spare badge]

Ideal situation is still the same as the way it was before: use a stopwatch to time your ability duration and practice until you've got a good idea of how long that is.

[tiny loom]

Same thing basically. You control a large wolf thing while your body is weak

Werewolf just another term

[spare badge]

No. Your body is left behind, and can be attacked, which will instantly terminate the ability.

[finite stone]

It doesn't feel like Elden Ring, it's more like Jedi Fallen Order imo. Some people make the witcher comparison but this doesn't feel as old as witcher (I love Witcher 3 but it was 2015 and its combat is kind of floaty and not as impactful as Fallen Order)

[tiny loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-winchester-supernatural-relatable-relatablemoods-gif-7719768255809338997

[spare badge]

That is not a form change. It's simply the same as things like when a game lets you control a missile or drone launched from your vehicle, or spy-style games that have drones you can control. The only difference is this is a magical wolf and not a machine.

[tiny loom]

I mean the word you pick ain’t a big deal. You control a large dog. Not a huge deal how you wanna describe it

I just used werewolf because I forgot the forms name

And it was similar enough

[final rock]

they really need to add timers to the UI. they have it for rune duration already.

[boreal solar]

What is this item? I can't get hold of it

[frigid agate]

A Sineculum, Enclave Favour for the Kith of Kings. You can’t pick it up because you can only hold a max of 50.

[boreal solar]

Oh! Thank you so much!

[tiny loom]

How do I get fragments for the Shewolf set?

Since there is no boss associated with the quest

[void roost]

when does codes usually get delivered?

because I wanna play with my girlfriend but I dont have any more codew

[hallow prawn]

wednesdays i think

[dusty hare]

looks like they boppin to music

[teal steeple]

They are.

It's from the animal charming minigame.

[fringe tendon]

Well I just realized, I have the pacts I want at the right place, I have the weapons that are fun for me, I have all the runes and prisims, so what now, I have Kith and alca all tapped out and don't really need to tap out Rose, so what now??

[halcyon grove]

Its really just material farm and mastery grind

[dusty hare]

get everything

then level everything

do what you don't need to do but can do

[river elk]

lost 1 courage and it went into spirit, not sure how and I need the 16 courage for the next long blade and halberd after that.

[halcyon grove]

Talisman/virtue prism?

Did you change your pact?

[tiny loom]

How do I get fragments for the Shewolf set?

Also does player level increase overall stats in spirit/grace/courage?

[amber island]

Does replaying the fable and killing a boss give fragment drops from said boss?

[tiny loom]

No, you have to go to Vadgar boss locations at night. Which will spawn a copy of the boss made of goop

You can find all the Vadgar locations online

You get one random fragment per Vadgar kill

[amber island]

vadgar? I want the bear

but googling waste bear doesnt seem to give me a location

[tiny loom]

Yeah. Vadgar Bear/Stag

[amber island]

ah ight

[tiny loom]

It’s a 50/50 between which spawns whenever you go to a location

[amber island]

ah ight

[tiny loom]

It took us a whole two days for that conversation

Wow

https://tenor.com/view/ill-be-here-all-week-thank-you-stand-up-comedian-i-got-jokes-comedy-gif-24431238

[mighty rune]

What does Attunement do for weapons and armor?

[teal steeple]

Increases their stats.

[river elk]

might have changed some things in the main stuff, but not sure what made me lose 1 point, thought I got it back, but noticed days ago that I lost 3 health too.

only have one thing, the tethren.

[tiny loom]

I believe it buffs the stats

[mighty rune]

So any armor and weapon is OK, but matching is ++ better

[tiny loom]

I’d think so

[mighty rune]

I'm seriously hating this votive. Running around in this dungeon for over 30 minutes, and still no clue where this "Relic before the Ode" thing is

[twilit escarp]

I realized googling bear waste also doesn’t help

[amber island]

i figured it out. you just sit next to a tree and wait for refreshes while looking in the recruitment channel. already got 4/4 chestpiece

[wind ether]

ikr , its usually a scroll . i played a few days ago and it was not even in the marked area it was off in a tunnel away from the marked area on the map

[mighty rune]

I searched a distance away in every direction I could find, and no dice. May have just missed it, but...

Well, I'm bald, now. 🙁

All my lovely hair!!

[wind ether]

undercity is such a maze ngl.

[river elk]

sometimes you have to look, one quest I was looking for a piece of paper and even with a 43 inch screen I nearly missed it.

[mighty rune]

If the game is going to give me indicators and 'helpers' for where an item is supposed to be found, I'm naturally going to do that. And not waste time running around the map outside that area - why would I?

[mighty rune]

Ahh!! It's a beggar!

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-go-away-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-4877675

[real timber]

Every once in a while we can even help those

[mighty rune]

sure, the non beggars who ask 'how might I gain access to the game? '

😄

[real timber]

thats just beggin but different

[thorny glen]

guys i need to beg you all please ||release prelude 14, i'm bored to tears||

[mighty rune]

Nah, that's asking for information.

[safe canopy]

Ohh im just a baby. How to get access because i surely dont know and im not asking for code so im not begging 😆

[real timber]

Tomato-tomato

[mighty rune]

No, the only beggar allowed here is the Great and Glorious Spazz Almighty, when he begs for his weekly tithes of high-quality cheesecakes

[real timber]

that one gets it

[mighty rune]

I think when I joined, I asked something along the lines of "are there other ways to gain access, other than buying the various support packs". And someone kindly mentioned the streams.

Which, as one had already started, I scampered to link accounts, and then plopped into the room (about 15 minutes late), and won a code. 😄

[safe canopy]

Tbh i rarely check pinned messages and forget they even exists

[thorny glen]

i never asked, i got the founder pack and then joined discord to see if people were having the same questions

[mighty rune]

same. It's shameful, I know, but... well, the fuzzy lil brain falls out, and I'm just helpless

[thorny glen]

because this game is as esoteric as warframe

[real timber]

Founders be like

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-out-of-my-way-lemonade-queen-slay-gif-11737663

[safe canopy]

But i got code from someone, then bought wyld pack. Might buy paragon but money is short. Doctors and car fixing costs a lot

[thorny glen]

game is far from removing the packs, don't worry

[safe canopy]

In 2-3 months ill buy 😆

[thorny glen]

godspeed tenno gruul

[real timber]

i bought paragon the second it was there 💀
Was putting all my Warframe Hype and Love directly in that game

[safe canopy]

Ugh warframe

[mighty rune]

nah, I wouldn't.

I'd have my manservant tell 'em.
BWAHAHA

[thorny glen]

i'm probably not going to buy anything like prime packs for this game when it gets them, farming for new content is the whole point of the game

[safe canopy]

Tried it yesterday with the rhino skin mission. Did 5 stags in meanwhile. Didnt know what im supposed to do in this mission

[thorny glen]

rhino skin mission is kill infected, they drop batteries, you plug those in to keep infection away for a timer....do that 3 times

it takes some time

[river elk]

I just wander around in the game.

[mighty rune]

ugh.

I haz munchies. BAaaaaad

[thorny glen]

same but i've ran out of places to run around

[mighty rune]

and craving ET food, too

[mighty rune]

I still have to finish my current faction (seedpods), then work on the 3rd. All while finding and leveling weapons

[thorny glen]

don't forget to spam t3 for those armor drops

[river elk]

still some fog on my map, but randomly finding a tree once in a while is ok, the bird always loses me so I just lvling up the weapons right now.

[mighty rune]

yupyup.

And Cogah! Cogah! Cogah!

[river elk]

i wandered around so much when i finally got crafting I made 4 weapons.

[thorny glen]

cogah has failed me, i've tried 20 times to get that last run from cogah nimrod, and that's the last thing i need to finish my collection

you see...i've 100% current content, all weapons levels, pacts, and all armors (but 3 missing halloween masks)

[safe canopy]

Im missing the spidey rune only. But not from cogah. The normal one

But gathannan calls me

Today is the day

[thorny glen]

it took me 50 kills to get 1 part of that spear

[safe canopy]

Ive done around 220 kills

[mighty rune]

maybe by next year, I'll be there.

Till then, I just wander about, doing as MurderHobo's do

oh. And enslaving then selling cute lil critters.

😈

[thorny glen]

that's still a month of doing anythin

unless you ignore bosses and organ event

[upbeat cradle]

i dont remember much but it took me a while to get back in p8

it was a nightmare

but i cant imagine farming it now, needing to search a boss that can spawn in a lot of zones and not guaranteed

and only at night too?

[safe canopy]

Well there is tales quests that guarantee his spawn and you can relogg to refresh tales so you might be getting one after another

[upbeat cradle]

Yea i guess

Good thing that i farmed my gath before

[safe canopy]

I play only for a month so might be hard to get it before 😰

[upbeat cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

Imma be honest, i didn't understand that sentence

[safe canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hyelin-hyerin-exid-i-is-study-englishing-lol-gif-13312834

[upbeat cradle]

True, true

We all be englishing out best

[safe canopy]

Couldnt get it in p8 as im new and just started playing

[upbeat cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-laser-eyes-angry-cat-cyclops-nara-gif-26030753

[upbeat cradle]

Ah, so u are like a month into playing soulframe

[safe canopy]

Ye

Newborn avakot

[upbeat cradle]

In p8 wasn't better either, drop was bugged and theorized to be 0.02% of a single drop lol

Ig the only good thing was that u could retry the mission the times that you liked

[safe canopy]

Ohh

Ive been relogging but it seems time related for now

[upbeat cradle]

Do you know about soulmap? That might help you

[safe canopy]

I.e. at my local 11pm i get 0 stag tales quests. And then at my local 1am i get a lot of them. Like thousands

[upbeat cradle]

Lol, how does that happen

[safe canopy]

Yeah I know

Does it show tales quests around the map?

[river elk]

still don't know where I lost a courage point, will have to just make the bell when I get the rest of the mats for it.

did find enough to make a shield already but want to make bell first.

[knotty moon]

Lost a courage point?
Did you replay Shewolf Snared or Waste Bear?

[river elk]

no, did do a letter thing a while back but also not sure if I just did a song for one of those glowing icons in the field and looked at it then. It was 15 for a while and then jumped to 16 and then went away.

can fix it with the bell though.

like 3 mm from 30 on first weapon too, so probably get enough of the mats soon anyway as I only need 3 more of something that drops from random mobs.

[knotty moon]

Strange, Echo Stones do give Virtue buffs, but those shouldn't be visible in the armory UI.

[ripe bone]

did you rank up with a starter/wyld prism?

[river elk]

starter

[ripe bone]

yeah they allocate to the offstats symmetrically, so they sometimes take away from the main stat to give 2 offstats

[river elk]

oh ok

[ripe bone]

so 13/8/8->12/9/9->13/9/9 type of deal

[river elk]

yeah, think it happened after the off stats jumped to 6 from 5.

the bell will add 4, so 3 more as current thing adds 1 to courage.

[knotty moon]

That's a pretty bad interaction.

[ripe bone]

yeah, the upside at least is ranking up again at those ranks is fairly fast with history motes

[ripe bone]

worst of all is that starter prism has an inconsistent interval for the leaps

[river elk]

I am only at envoy 4, that is probably the issue as I did not realise I had to collect the motes at first.

[ripe bone]

leveling up with history motes is really fast, if you want a bit more stat points

you can relog near a location if you want to respawn its motes

[river elk]

yeah if I get to 5 I won't have the courage issue as I only need the 1 point for 16 courage as my build and a talisman give me some.

but the bell will help as well.

[knotty moon]

That courage column is a rollercoaster.

[normal frigate]

Are the dungon exits random?
I found a nice little farm route online but for that you use the fact that you can travel on the map and exit at another spot.
I have done the dungon 2 times now and came up at the same spot, just next to the entrence

[ripe bone]

no and in fact i happen to have a map for those 😄

[knotty moon]

As far as I know they are random, but they do seem to choose exit that are close-ish to the entrance.

[ripe bone]

they used to be a few preludes ago

[smoky haven]

lets fricking go

[wary laurel]

LITTLE GENIUS - before i install the App, will it tell me about: - Quest/Mission i didnt do (i did the Tales) - Bosses i didnt vanquish (Cogah) - Weapons/Armor missing from Collection ???

[smoky haven]

took a while but i realized the other runes drop while in cogah

[knotty moon]

I don't think it tracks quests, the rest yes.

[normal frigate]

Very nice, thanks!
So the video has then become old in just 6 days lol or what?

On your map I don't see the connection he uses.
He goes from Demark cluster top right to Demark exist Left side

[wary laurel]

thx for map of Dungeons... but what is that symbol yellow-arrow, pls?

[ripe bone]

the yellow arrows are dungeon exits that were in soulmap

[normal frigate]

@ripe bone So at 10:08 this guys is simply wrong then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtCEg5NvjK8&t=666s

The route he calls #2 seems to be working according to your map, utilizing the very long purple travel

[ripe bone]

lemme look at the route he shows. which one has the exception? @normal frigate

[smoky haven]

how do i check how many hours i have in the game?

[normal frigate]

Route 1, to get back to left side after ending on right side via Demark

[ripe bone]

i think i went into that dungeon multiple times and ended up north east of it

i can double check

[knotty moon]

Not possible with in-game tools atm.
Linking the exe to the AMD software does track the time.
Adding it as a non-steam game also probably does it.
And Little Genius also has a tracker for it, but it doesn't look precise (probably only counts time out of the Nightfold).

[ripe bone]

although if you want to fast travel to start you can always use fipple flute emote in nightfold as long as you are not in cogah or a squad

[ripe bone]

my map is correct on that one, it seems he is using outdated info from the soulmap

this is the exit position

[normal frigate]

Also what doe gray helbars mean... 50% of the enemies I meet have it and I feel like I do 0 dmg ...

[knotty moon]

Too much armor.

[ripe bone]

it means your light attacks dont go above their armor

[wary laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-spinning-waiting-bored-chair-gif-12572632970262008618

[ripe bone]

you can heavy attack/headshot throw to bypass this

[wary laurel]

when i have 10 hours of playtime but must wait 3h between respawn

[ripe bone]

if you have built enough weapons(4) i recommend reforging your weapon with a joinery to deal more damage. you find them in chests from bosses/end of dungeons

[normal frigate]

Oh, I have not gotten into this at all....
I have the Juniper bow and Purity greatword (which I understand are both good)
I like tank builds in game, but I started as rager so at this points I don't seem to be able to get enough courage for purity =/
I have to get to 20.000 with my starter pact to change right?

[wary laurel]

how do i light up this golden "parachute/skull" SYMBOL on my map, permanently ? need to mark them in game...

[knotty moon]

Pact does not really restrict what you can use effectively (all Pact have the same Virtue Arts bonuses), Prims does the stat allocation.
You can get those from the Factions, though you need to rank up your own a few times to get access to Sacred Shimmers (you need that to craft the Talismans needed to interact with the other leaders to switch).
Starter Prisms you can get simply by visiting the factions, but those are not very good.

[ripe bone]

the skull icons currently cant be marked in game. they only show up in cogah. you kinda memorize their locations after a bit

[tropic trail]

hey yall whats the strongest pact currently?

[knotty moon]

The one you like to play.
The answer most likely changes based on how you play.
Personally, I find Oscelda quite good.

[tropic trail]

ah so like warframe all frames are good if you know how to use em?

[ripe bone]

mostly, some are still a bit weak but every pact has its niche

[safe canopy]

Garren seems kinda stronk

[tropic trail]

mmm give a a top 3 besides sirin. so i can give myself a goal xD

[ripe bone]

mora's hand, tethren, bromius are my go to atm although garren can oneshot bosses (will likely get nerfed)

if you like summons/use grace weps orengall is quite good too

[safe canopy]

Orengall is still crashing?

[ripe bone]

idk at this point

[safe canopy]

Tetheren is solid all rounder
Garren for now pretty much one shots everything
And then bromius for some fun playstyle i would say

And oscelda for bows

[wary laurel]

to gain **amaterial dust ** by playing flute to animals... but how do i know which animals / how do i make them stand still ???

[ripe sonnet]

Tethren also one shots if you prestack fellust

[crude valve]

You have to compendium to see if you're missing some but you cant know the exact type before you catch it. And i dont think you can make them still you kinda have to run after them

[safe canopy]

You can sneak on them. You can see the Animal it is (i.e. squirrel) but you dont know which weapon totem it will be (you actually kinda can guess by looking at the difficulty of animal so you can limit it for i.e. 3 weapon totems)

[wary laurel]

I SUCK AT FLUTE - must be doing something wrong !!! i scan the land with spirit wave / duck is lighted up near by / i sneaked up on duck / i opened my wheel to chose flute action / i played 451-451 tune / duck remains calm by my side ...but nothing happens. (no blue flowers as in image above)

[sonic scaffold]

So guys Im thinking of becoming founder, which wyld should I pick? I want to use the rapier I saw in a video, looks sick

[vast pasture]

Based Mora warrior spotted.

[safe canopy]

You use your spectral sight with light attack to catch animals

Same with souls

[wary laurel]

ohhhh ok but duck didnt show the glowing orb from his chest that i usually rip out from enemies --- EDIT: perfect, thx u --- it WORKED !

[safe canopy]

They dont. But its the same keybinds

[wary laurel]

not first time an enemy drops a SCROLL but i cannot pick it up (even during missions from big tree) 🤔

[crude valve]

its the new faction xp redeemable they are capped at 50 so you're probably capped already

[safe canopy]

Isnt that a faction scroll?

[wary laurel]

dunno sorry 😣

[smoky haven]

You know it.

That rune is so cool btw

[river elk]

jumped to envoy 5 so after getting starter long blade to 30, was able to equip new long blade

[vast pasture]

Mora willing

[wary laurel]

OMG im getting the hang of pokemon "catch-them-all" 🤣 (even if i never played the game) ...got a lot of animal spirits !

if it was this easy to loot RUNES 😢

[river elk]

i raid camps and open cages.

[wary laurel]

🤣 guards butting heads, on who has right-of-way, on bridge 🚷

[sly escarp]

Son't use the emote, use soul sight + attack to trigger the song

[wary laurel]

i just killed the metalic giant Medis Gyon, near Organ in normal-mode Midrath - can i drink Elixir afterwards, to fight him in HARD MODE -or- must i wait 3H for him to respawn in Cogah ? are both worlds synchronised ? (need pix rune)

[crude valve]

The cogah cooldowns are separate from the normal ones so it will be there, you might need to go away and come back tho

[safe canopy]

Also boss cooldown is 30min

[wary laurel]

MUSIC NOTES ON MAP - i´m stuck on this tree "mission" where i must offer a song in middle of this forest ...so i hit the "flute action" from my wheel / no singing tree stump nearby either... ⁉️

[crude valve]

You got the idea you have to find a tree stump but they can be hard to find

[wary laurel]

ok so i was on the right path but this darn blinding sun is not helping 🤣

[weary knoll]

[safe canopy]

There is a broken figure on a cut off tree. You need to find it and then just simply click F next to it (you got to be in front of it so you might walk around the tree for F icon to show)

[safe canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-praise-gif-25000256

[weary knoll]

Mora Mora Beammmmmm!

[safe canopy]

Would it be stealing if DE added praise the sun emote?

[weary knoll]

Not if its Praise the Suns!

[safe canopy]

Praise the Allmighty Avakot

[tiny loom]

What’s a free way to increase weapon/armor slots

[weary knoll]

At the moment I don't think there is one, not until trading is added

[sly escarp]

Wait until DE hands our free arcs as compensation for a rework, would be the only way we can think of. Arcs are currently mostly money only

[tiny loom]

They do that often?

[sly escarp]

Eh, sometimes. We got 100 starting arcs, 100 when they added slots, another 100 for the Virtue rework...so on occasion, not often

[dire helm]

They did say they'd bring trading to the game, and I suspect it'll use warframe's model, since that has worked well.

So I highly suspect trading to other people for arcs will be a thing.

[tiny loom]

Yeah, I doubt it would take long for Arcs to become the standard trade currency again.

[dire helm]

I mean, I'll trade you dracs if you prefer. 🤣

[tiny loom]

You can give me all those fragments I’m farming

[dire helm]

Add me ingame. I've got enough fragments to make duplicates of most things at this point. If/when trading lands, I'll be handing them out to noobs if DE will let me.

[tiny loom]

https://tenor.com/view/doubletake-gif-20683599

Will do as soon as I get back on

Will be a good bit though

[dire helm]

Only things I can't dupe right now are like the super rare stuff.

[tiny loom]

I’m mainly grinding for the mendicant king and she wolf armor rn

[dire helm]

-# granted the value of the fragments I have may change with p15, so we'll have to see how that goes, but... yeah

[lament path]

Also a hundred for fashion

Which was the most recent one

[tiny loom]

And how do we get moonsteel?

[dire helm]

Arcs spent in the cash shop. The founders packs also come with a lot of it.

It's like a secondary premium currency only used for fashion.

[tiny loom]

Dang it

I have to pay to transmog : (

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-20581738

[dire helm]

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of that design choice either.

[tiny loom]

Hopefully it gets reworked once the game starts earning some more income. I really don’t want it to turn into stats > but look shit

[dire helm]

I mean, thankfully, we're not mismatching our gear to get optimal stats just yet, so at least the sets are staying together, generally.

I do think they should give us the "no helmet" option by default though.

[tiny loom]

Yeah

The hide helmet atm is kinda misleading

More like open helmet

A second proper hide helmet emote would be good

[dire helm]

I like that we can do that for RP reasons, but yeah, totally.

[tiny loom]

Yeah I do think the current open helmet is good

But would like hide helmet on top

[sly escarp]

Only once to unlock an appearance

[tiny loom]

No reason to only have one of them after all

[tiny loom]

I’ve been spending all my Arcs on rushing so I can get some quick gear

[sly escarp]

Once you unlock an armour appearance you have it unlocked forever and can apply it over any armour later

(this includes Helmless)

[smoky crater]

[tiny loom]

IM IMPATIENT

I hope rushing stays cheap

Because it’s pretty cheap so far

[dusty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/tf-you-said-gif-20255278

You’ve been doing what

[dire helm]

Theoretically we'll be cooking less stuff in the future of p15? Or at least folks who don't care about actually having one of each weapon will need to craft less to just get mastery. If you still want the top-end version of every weapon you'll have to craft from ancient fragments from the sounds of it.

But yeah, don't waste arcs on crafting. It adds up fast, and it isn't worth it.

[wary laurel]

NINJA MESSENGER - << why dont you wait for me in the tree branch, why dont you >> ...spent 5 mins spinning around, looking for him. 👀

[dusty kettle]

These messengers have two moods, they either practice vietnamese camouflage tactics like your messenger does here, or they appear right in front of you

[brazen sparrow]

The sproutfolk and the ghostie boys can be worse.. at least the red cloth there helps a bit

[halcyon thicket]

Thats a little too bright

[jagged matrix]

so I just started playing, picked the rogue/archer pact, should I charge every shot? seems to do way more damage than regular shots

[knotty moon]

Most of the time, yes, but there are situations where a quick shot is enough to finish off an enemy.

[jagged matrix]

also, are bosses just going to ignore the decoy 🥹

seems kinda useless

[cosmic hull]

i killed the bear and i dont know what to do now?😅

[weary knoll]

Try the sieges, get new gear, pacts and weapons, explore!

[safe canopy]

how do u stack tetheren ability?

[weary knoll]

Using 1 and 2 at the same time

[safe canopy]

how it works?

[cosmic hull]

where do i find bow crafting parts?

[weary knoll]

Depends on the bow, is there one you are particularly interested in?

[weary knoll]

Fellust works on a charge system and the 2nd ability is on timer, the second ability does damage increase, and fellust increases damage per consecutive strikes, thus stacking both damage buffs (Additively iirc)

[safe canopy]

and how can i make my consecutive dmg to reach like i.e. 3-4k?

[weary knoll]

I don't know specifically as I'm not really good and builds, but it will depend on your weapon, your virtue lean, and joineries probably as well as runes and totem set up

[safe canopy]

i mean, i heard you can stack your dmg something like with shield beam dmg

[smoky crater]

Lil tip: they're always in the exact middle of the marker on your map

-# yes i know that was an hour ago

[cosmic hull]

juniper

got only 1 part of 3

[weary knoll]

You need to find the echo stones

There are three, each drop one frag

[wary laurel]

➡️ what is the MAX level, these 2 values can reach ? ⬅️

[regal shadow]

left one is your envoy rank, aka mastery rank, and highest as of now is 18, right are your defenses, as for how high they can go, highest i've seen is 148, but that was a while ago, unsure if they can go higher now

[halcyon thicket]

Why is ur screen so bright

Is that HDR

[smoky crater]

Doesnt look like hdr to me

But also it could be

[brazen sparrow]

HDR in SF is a bit weird.. it had this.. greyness to it

[full hearth]

[wary laurel]

⏰ does in-game** Time**, passes the same as IRL ?

[brazen sparrow]

No, the star of the system we're in is a binary star.
The left sun is Mora, the right is Sapphene.

The part where your yellow arrow is has always been empty, so no idea what's supposed to be there. (oh yeah, i see i tiny crescent moon - That's Iridis)

as for time, the rate of in-game time is 1:1 with our time, it's just that the day is something like 45 minutes long, and the night is shorter than this.

[dire helm]

Max envoy rank, the number on the left, is 17 right now, and will be 18 with the next update.
-# except for people with the old fey pact exp, who are already 18, but that'll get sorted out in the next update as well.

Max number for armor, the number on the right, just depends on how high you can jack up your grace stat, currently, so idk what that is.

[safe canopy]

@jolly sedge u there?

[jolly sedge]

yeah?

[safe canopy]

wanna share the tech for stacking tetheren or is it time limited stacking only?

[jolly sedge]

You need to hit an enemy 3 to 4 time, the 5 hit will be multiply, you will see the number on the inventory, looking at your weapon. Mind you, don't let the enemy hit you, also if you want a good stack, just do first basic attack then back off to do it again. This is how tethren works, is not a tech haha, it's been like this since it got here. You can watch the tethren tutorial from saralovesarchery, she explain this well. ^_^ But if, you need me to make a small clip and post it here, I'll be glad to served.

Also you will know that the numbers are stacking cause the damage will multiply every hit, do know that, at the 5 hit you will lose this buff, unless with spirit you can get another hit, haven't tried that yet.

[safe canopy]

okay i will watch her video, thought the stacking is fixed or its locked behind timer i.e. after 10sec out of combat or after 10sec activating skill

[jolly sedge]

The stack will stay cause you have not use the full 1 ability of tethren, unless you get hit of course, you will see the red gauge going down on the 1rst ability.

Yeah watch her, she is really good with that. I'm still studying video editing to make more videos later on.

[opal barn]

Is there a way to transmog weapons I really like how estroot looks

[real timber]

[brazen sparrow]

not yet.

[real timber]

ngl i kinda want to copy you with that ""[Paragon Founder]" in server name xD

[opal barn]

Does orengall pact melee count as a kick ?

[tiny loom]

I believe so

I’m pretty sure it is just a animation replacer

Nothing else

[jolly sedge]

You can go ahead and do it, there's no rule to not let you, haha. Go on.

[tiny loom]

He’s gunna beat you if you do it

[lunar pond]

And with this, I own every obtainable equipment 🎉

Only things I'm missing are the paragon sword and the stuff from the other two founder packs, but I don't have enough money to throw around

[tiny loom]

🎉

[smoky haven]

very nice

im almost done aswell

[safe canopy]

got it today too, now only spidey normal rune and imp armor and done with all of it 😄

[opal schooner]

Is there a wiki or something where I can see where I can get which materials?

[visual radish]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[opal schooner]

thx

[barren scroll]

I have told you before, please don’t discuss or ask questions regarding this app. This is the last time I will be warning you regarding this. All matters please keep separate from this discord server; discuss elsewhere in a more appropriate place.

[wary laurel]

im terribly sorry, im a dumbass with small brain 😢

im over at avakot app discord this time, sorry

[barren scroll]

Don’t say that about your self. But please listen and don’t post/ask additional questions regarding this topic again/usage of the 3rd party software. Thank you! 🙏

[vestal spruce]

How is everyone doin

[opal barn]

I need food

[vestal spruce]

I can relate, though been dealin with stomach an throat issues all day makes my appitite feel nothin

[amber island]

food would be nice rn

[vestal spruce]

I am so hyped to start playin

didin't relize I joined in, life happened but now I am just hyped

[halcyon grove]

Eyyy

welcome my man, its gonna be fun

They have more content in pre alpha than most games at launch

[hardy sphinx]

i know we are gonna get mounts but im thinking of a feedback which i think it's important. id like to discuss with anybody who's willing to lol.

idk if it's just me but the game in it's current state takes a lot of time. like consume time to make anything relevant.
what are your thoughts on that?

[halcyon grove]

I think since its pre alpha, its to be expected

[visual radish]

That is kinda their monetization model rlly

Pretty much how they did it in warframe

[vestal spruce]

I'm hyped

tryin to talk to some friends an give em codes, do we get different weapons along with the soulframes?

[halcyon grove]

The fables, basically story missions are so goodd

[whole owl]

do think warframe's monetization model feels a lot like 2010's mobile game

[halcyon grove]

There's just one frame, you're basically a human(?) But you have tons of weapons

[hardy sphinx]

idk if i was clear. like, warframe you make a mission in like 5 minutes.
here, 5 minutes you take to travel from one boss to another. this doesn't give you 1% of anything relevant.

i know it's preludes and stuff, and the idea of map exploration is very cool.
im just thinking that maybe long term, not much of ppl will be willing to spend 3+ hours to get an item part or level a weapon.

[halcyon grove]

Not tons, but around 30

[visual radish]

I'd argue warframe has more stuff for free than paid so it would be rather unlike a mobile game

[hardy sphinx]

do you have the codes? i have some if you need it.

so you have a ton of weapons and "pacts" the "pacts" are the "Frames".

[whole owl]

There is quite a lot of weapons right now https://wiki.avakot.org/Weapons has a full list and how to get them

[visual radish]

I think between mounts and wevetseeds the map traversal wont really be an issue

Tho i do wish they would tie enemy level to something else like infamy so we dont have to go to specific regions to get apropriate levels

[whole owl]

This infamy thing has been discussed so much and we have absolutely no clue what it'll do lol

[visual radish]

Yup lol

But yeah i'd like enemy level to not be determined by geographical location

[halcyon grove]

Comparing soulframe to warframe is eh, two totally different games. Soulframe is meant to be slow, its a fantasy rpg after all

Enemy level i agree with

And spending 3 hours running from boss to boss and getting nothing is basically just cogah and its fun

Mounts are ginna be a thing soon, maybe this year 🙏

[hardy sphinx]

like level scaled based off your level or something?

[halcyon grove]

But as you said, preludes. The game is basically 13% done(considering its p13)

[hardy sphinx]

i'd say 0.13% hahaha

[visual radish]

Maybe, tho considering how our level depends mostly off of exploration i think a different mechanic like the currently unused infamy might be better

[halcyon grove]

That could work yep. Just like Where Winds Meet does it yk

[tight plover]

anyone know the highest you can upgrade totems to?

[visual radish]

3 leaves

[tight plover]

okay thanks

[hardy sphinx]

i got it. yeah i like the ideas.

but what you all think of like, having more of a way diverse the areas and and lock you in where 'you belong'. Like, thinking of old mmorpgs where you had a clear distinction of where you should go by the level you are at. so instead of the Tales forces you to go around the whole map, you can loop through and explore 'old' areas when you want a resource or something.

[visual radish]

That sounds like a more restricted version of what we have

[hardy sphinx]

What we have is that we have to travel the whole map because we need a boss from north another from south.
what im thinking is: give you less reason to have to constantly travel thru everything as you progress.

[lime nacelle]

I feel the biggest reason they’ve made it this way is cause every new weapon you get starts over at rank 0. Making it nice if you change weapons you can go back to lower level areas and farm rank for it to make fighting higher level enemies easier. IMO

[dire helm]

Yeah you have to determine difficulty somehow. Level scaling with Geography is a tried and true method for a lot of games. Going other routes introduces their own problems elsewhere.

[lime nacelle]

I feel like one way to work around that would be to scale enemies with your weapons ranks maybe, just thinking

[visual radish]

On the other hand your base damage increases as your virtues do, so at some point the lowest levels become unecessary

[weary knoll]

Currently, enemy level scale based on location, with the further you go away from the starting area, the higher the enemy is, with NE being the highest levels

[lime nacelle]

That’s what I thought about after saying that, so I don’t know if they find a way to scale with your virtues and weapons to average it out, still having areas with higher levels but increasing them all as you progress. Like an average between your virtues and weapons

[dire helm]

My point exactly: trying to force other methods of enemy scaling to work leads to their own problems with maintaining balance, and in a way, can lead to a kind of loss in player agency.
Like what If I want to test something vs a level 1 grunt? Can't do that anymore? well darn I guess.

I'm as sick of farming and leveling in the northeast as anyone else, but I've yet to hear of an alternative I would like better.

[lime nacelle]

Yeah it would take a lot to be able to create a new system for the game. In all honesty the current isn’t bad I enjoy going to lower lvl areas and just clearing the floor sometimes. It gives a feel that I am getting stronger as the game progresses

[visual radish]

My biggest issue with current form is mostly about how faction rep is tied to region level

And votives usually make you walk away from the area with the highest level

Because it is such a small area

Tho again that will probably be mitigated when we get mounts

[hardy sphinx]

more or less. i think mounts are going to fix 30% of this issue.

i personally dont like fast travel, and the way they implemented fixes 10% of the issue.

both votives takes you away from the area and farming stuff as well. Like, if you want The Organ, you have to go thru the whole map vertically.

but i think that they (DE) wants the play to go thru the map exploring and stuff.

[visual radish]

Well at least the organ doesnt depend on level, which is the problem with faction rep

[hardy sphinx]

i am not sure but enemies too? Like killing high level mobs gives you more xp?

[visual radish]

I mean that farming the organ isnt really affected by the level of it it is the same reward regardless

While farming faction rep on votives is affected by the level making it's constant fluctuation an issue

[hardy sphinx]

yeah i got what you mean. like, any other votive is meaningless beside the NE one.

[split briar]

Does anyone know what to do after the invitation quest - i went down to see the vendor in the cave come out and now i have no quests? HELP LOL

Just done the organ though pretty fun

[hardy sphinx]

yes!!!

which quest is the invitation? lemme check

ok so whats your pact?

[split briar]

Its quite early on daniel. I had to go and get something from a camp to go down into the cavern

Im playing an archer mate. With a decoy and i go into the ground to get away 😅

Only just stsarted really its quite confusing but super cool game. Cant see myselfnon the map which is quite confusing

[tiny loom]

How do I get the shewolf armor fragments?

[smoky haven]

https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Cogah_Lorcaan

[hardy sphinx]

ok so it seems you got Sirin.
https://wiki.avakot.org/An_Invitation
nonetheless see if this one helps you!

[smoky haven]

how do these talismans become more powerful exactly? do their stats increase permanently?

[hardy sphinx]

I think you are talking about the Silent Rose.

[shy onyx]

any news on whether squad size will increase from 3?

[tiny loom]

That will be a rough grind

[visual radish]

Cogah talismans scale with agari kills while in cogah

[tiny loom]

Just pure RNG

[teal fog]

They do???

Damn, I gotta start using those

[dire helm]

They do, but they're buggy as heck last any of us checked, so it's not a consistent experience. lol

They should generally be the "best" talismans in cogah, however.

[split briar]

Im not sure what to do after though, no quests or anything. Someone said about maybe going to an altar? Any ideas

[visual radish]

Yeah there's like 3 other quests you can find around
Orengall's(wolf), tuvalkane's(blacksmith)and verminia's(appearance and potions)

If you dont wanna look you could check the map on the wiki and have it only show quests(fables)

[smoky haven]

i was doing cogah and wearnig it yesterday and i didn't see the stats increase

[split briar]

Ok will check out tommorow. Is there only 3 quests left to do then?

[visual radish]

There's a few more but they unlock from those 3

[hardy sphinx]

the game will not guide you thru the 'steps' it is more like: explore and findout!.

so it depends a lot on which quests you've done yet.

[visual radish]

Hopefully orlick is able to help next preludes lol

Time for the old man to pay rent lol

[hardy sphinx]

for sure!! haha

hey do you think they are going to add base building of any sort?

[visual radish]

Maybe

Seems like a natural direction once the game is more solid

[vivid acorn]

Is it possible I’m somehow doing the quests out of order? I just got the game yesterday

[visual radish]

Tho it will probably be just nightfold customization instead of true in world base

[visual radish]

Not much order to them tbh

Currently quests are more episodes about the character/funtion they unlock rather than a storyline

[vivid acorn]

I’m not really sure what to do then because I’m on a quest and the boss seems ridiculously difficult I deal 1% of his health an attack and I have no other like quests in my journal

[hardy sphinx]

theres no such 'order'.

[shy onyx]

I guess not really, then?

[hardy sphinx]

yeah thats what i am thinking. but also theres that old envoy's house

[vivid acorn]

There has to be some sort of order. There’s no way you can fight the very highest little boss as your first quest you know?

[visual radish]

Grandfa

[visual radish]

Dunno what to tell ya

[vivid acorn]

Well, if it’s impossible for me to progress in the game, I don’t know how I’m supposed to play?

It seems like a waste of money

There’s no other quest markers there’s nothing for me to do what is the point?

[hardy sphinx]

yes you can increase your power and strength by either leveling your gear or dropping better gears.

[vivid acorn]

How are you going to level gear if there’s nothing spawning and no quests except for the one you can’t do??

There’s also no gear drops on any enemies, except for the first boss that I fought

[hardy sphinx]

by running around the map, killing mobs, bosses, collecting resources, doing dungeons and stuff

[smoky crater]

there is. just not guaranteed

[finite stone]

Kind of. It's exploration-based but with chains, so you can start the fable chains in any order you want:

Tutorial Chain: Warsongs > Rise, Envoy > The Last Pensive > The Torment Stag

Then once the tutorial is complete, you can go start any of these:

Steelsinger Chain: The Steelsinger > (not yet added)

Shewolf Chain: Shewolf Snared > (not yet added)

Verminia Chain: Brewer of Hues > A Witch Withdrawn

Bromius Chain: Waste Bear (has Brewer as prerequisite since it features Verminia) > (unsure if there will be more, maybe his story ends there)

Miniquests / Enclave: An Invitation / Deadwood / Lightning in a Vial / Mistress of the Thread (any order you want)

[finite stone]

by exploring and interacting with the places, character, enemies etc that you find in the world

[finite stone]

The game is free

[finite stone]

Explore

[vivid acorn]

It’s not free if you buy a pack

[hardy sphinx]

maybe, you do not have the 'crafting' yet. so go ahead and try to do this quest instead.
https://wiki.avakot.org/Tuvalkane

game won't guide you - it's exploration.
and it's preludes so bare with us!

[smoky crater]

buying a pack is optional

[vivid acorn]

Buying a pack to access the game seems like a waste of money if there’s nothing playable according to this other dude

[smoky crater]

that's your own decision

[vivid acorn]

Well, I bought the pack before I knew I could not play anything

[finite stone]

The game is still free if you chose to optionally support them with a founders pack.

[vivid acorn]

There’s no way for me to explore dungeons and level because nothing is spawning

[smoky crater]

[vivid acorn]

There’s zero way for me to progress according to what you say is how I progress.

No enemies are spawning. No animals are spawning. I can only beat in. I guess this dungeon? And I can’t even kill enemies because it just comes back to life.

I tried to look up how to kill them and I don’t have the key prompt when I down them

[finite stone]

What do you mean nothing is spawning? Your dungeons have no enemies?

[hardy sphinx]

if 'nothing is spawning' your game is likely bugged. try to restart it or open a ticket on support.
the world is supposed to be filled with mobs and bosses and stuff

[vivid acorn]

The only thing that spawn are in this one dungeon that I’m being led to by my bird

No other enemies are on the map

[finite stone]

Are you talking about https://wiki.avakot.org/Mockeries ? You just use Pull Smite on their souls

[vivid acorn]

Yes, and I looked at the wiki and saw how to kill them, but I don’t have the prompt when I down them

[smoky crater]

you don't get a prompt

[visual radish]

It isnt a propmt

[finite stone]

What do you mean 'have' the prompt? You use Pull Smite

[smoky crater]

you just have to do the button combo

[vivid acorn]

I run up and press E like everything says

[smoky crater]

not how it works

[vivid acorn]

The wiki says it tutorial say it and it does nothing

[visual radish]

What wiki are you looking at?

[vivid acorn]

Read the link you sent me man

[finite stone]

Pull Smite isn't E??

[smoky crater]

was just about to ask

[hardy sphinx]

you have to press "Q" and click.

[vivid acorn]

And now I’ve gotten three answers on how I’m supposed to do it

So obviously, nobody knows what’s going on in this game and it’s so bugged. It’s unplayable.

[visual radish]

The wiki we use does not mention E at all

[vivid acorn]

I guess it’s early access but I’m not even able to access the content. Everyone else apparently is able to.

[smoky crater]

...wrong .-:

[smoky crater]

early access, yes, a pre-alpha

[vivid acorn]

If you’re all giving me an answer that’s different. That’s the truth.

[finite stone]

The page you've been sent has one single answer. You seem to have pulled E from somewhere else

[visual radish]

Sigh....

[vivid acorn]

I haven’t pulled up on my screen so I don’t know what you’re talking about

[finite stone]

Everyone is telling you to just use Pull Smite.

[smoky crater]

don't think anyone was giving you multiple different answers for one thing like that

[vivid acorn]

Literally everybody told me to press a different button so I don’t know what you’re talking about

Three of you in here, the wiki and a tutorial video

[smoky crater]

everyone was talking about Pull Smite

everyone in here ^

[vivid acorn]

Everyone in here gave me a different button to press

[smoky crater]

which is Q+Left click

[smoky crater]

....pretty sure we didn't .

[visual radish]

We know you are frustrated but everyone said the same thing

[vivid acorn]

Do you need me to screenshot all three of your messages??

[smoky haven]

did the faction reputation daily limit already reset?

[finite stone]

Those of us in here have all said pull smite. The wiki also says pull smite.

Whatever tutorial video you're talking about may just be outdated, so you should probably check its date. Pull Smite used to have a different input prior to Preludes 11

[vivid acorn]

Even though you also said different things

[finite stone]

Sure, yeah! They all say pull smite (which is spectral sight, default Q, plus a light attack, default LMB)

[hardy sphinx]

i think youre rushing too hard on that. stressed out. this won't help you. we are all trying to help and the developers are trying to make you have fun, they expect you to help develop the game by playing. be patient, if you have a hard time doing something, reach out to the community we will help. no reason to be stressed out bro

[vivid acorn]

Sad to see how wildly unhelpful this community is compared to war frame. I love DE, but this is just not the same. Disappointed

[smoky crater]

what..

[finite stone]

What more would you like help with?

[smoky haven]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[smoky crater]

i don't think we are really being the problem in this case if im being completely honest

[smoky haven]

already left

[smoky crater]

surprise..

[finite stone]

Not yet, it's in 3 hours I think!

[hardy sphinx]

bro is just freaking mean

[finite stone]

well that was... bizarre

[smoky crater]

i mean... atleast confusion is no more i guess

[finite stone]

I'm assuming just a troll but you always have to help these people because you never know if they're genuinely just that confused 🤷‍♂️

[smoky haven]

terminally online discord user

[smoky crater]

[finite stone]

[smoky haven]

i don't see this info on fextralife, but i feel like some runes i can only get when killing agarai in cogah?

[smoky crater]

yes

cogah Agari have Cogah exclusive runes

[visual radish]

Yeahhh dont use fextralife

[smoky crater]

loaf

fextraloaf ._.

[visual radish]

It is utter garbage

[smoky crater]

haven't even looked at it ngl

[visual radish]

Shush /j

[smoky crater]

[visual radish]

Fextralife is barely serviceable in their genre of focus(soulslikes) for any other game it is really a sad pile of default page templates

[smoky crater]

about what i've heard of it yeah

[teal steeple]

Where do the Moaners get all the Ichor they spew from?

[smoky crater]

underground

they got pipes goin down into the ground under them 👀

you can kinda see a properly destroyed one just west from Mines of Borro

[teal steeple]

So why don't we just destroy the storage depots?

Maybe we will?

[smoky crater]

uhhh.... insert something something Thy Gods Hath Yet To Decide How Thou Shall Deal With Them something something

[hardy sphinx]

i get so mad they are a thing. and so happy avakot is a thing.

[visual radish]

Fextratemplate

[smoky crater]

FextraContemplatingLifeDecisions

[hardy sphinx]

and about avakot thing they have that little buddy app, i'd love to use it but it's jjust another alecaframe thing right

[smoky crater]

yeeep

[hardy sphinx]

if they only need the ee.log they could have a browser app that yo ucan copy paste there

so no ban for you

[finite stone]

Yes some runes are cogah-only, but you won't see that on fextra as that wiki is not updated. Here's the full list of sources from the wiki, hopefully this helps to hunt them down!:

p.s. does anyone know yet if it's been ruled out whether normal runes still drop in cogah alongside the cogah ones? It's always hard to disprove something exists hahaha, til we get the journal update anyway - but I haven't played cogah for a while myself and want to confirm that for example Hurlwind can still drop in place of Picktrix for cogah dimrod

[smoky crater]

im pretty sure i've gotten stuff like Everflame instead yeah...

tho that was a while ago and honestly i wasn't paying a lot of attention so i might also be talkin bs

[sand oracle]

Is there any way to easily find those trees that removes the fog of the map?

[smoky crater]

hmmm.... keep yo eyes real wide open

[sand oracle]

Am I just being dumb to find them?

[smoky crater]

i wouldn't say that

[vestal spruce]

I just fused with somethin an got a sword but can't use my bow. How do I unfuse an get my bow back

[smoky crater]

the sword's a temporary thing that'll go away after you leave the dungeon

[finite stone]

Hehe yeah same, I think I got torcheternal from cogah kabocha and I've always just remembered that one drop though it was many hotfixes ago 😂

[smoky crater]

[finite stone]

Nah they're definitely tricky to see! They're distinct once you're close (they're dead and kind of stocky) but it was tough, I remember back when I did mine I had to use the vague marker in the clouded area of the map - but I think DE patched that out

[brazen sparrow]

eh, if you'd asked like 3 days ago, i'd run cogah again for the first time in ages (and lost my mind doing it)

[smoky crater]

oh... oh yeah

[vestal spruce]

So how do we get new pacts?

I wanna grab the wolf sounding one

[visual radish]

For that one, the related quest

[vestal spruce]

oooo

[fallow arch]

let your sparrow guide you

[finite stone]

Depends on the pact - some are fables, some are enclaves

[tiny loom]

Is anyone else having a issue were sometimes the vadgar bosses just vanish mid fight

What’s mendicant king’s cooldown? Some stuff tells me a hour, others say 1/2hr

[sly escarp]

30 min

It used to be an hour a long time ago, then briefly was 3 hours, then 30 min

[shy onyx]

Ha, I remember my farm

Every hour

Kill, set the timer, go AFK, repeat

Few days straight

[jade latch]

which is the more normal build for juniper? Grace or spirit

[pliant obsidian]

Does anyone know how to get Dewelion?

[sand oracle]

Do I have any mission to do after the waste bear or is a free roam now?

[twilit escarp]

It doesn't exist, everyone is lying

[smoky crater]

Have you done The Shewolf Snared?

If yes, then that's all until P14 yeah

Tho there are a few specific locations on the map with notes that start a miniquest when you pick them up. Tho those ones wont show up in the Fables tab of your Journal

[sand oracle]

dont think so

[gloomy timber]

if you don't have a pup in nightfold you need to be looking for camps with red baloons iirc, and free pups from cages

[sand oracle]

well, tomorrow I go them (because it's quite late rn and I'm sleepy)

[gloomy timber]

also, if you can't brew hard mode potion you'll need to rank up Verminia

[sand oracle]

thanks guys!

i'm level 1 with both verminia and the forge girl

still couldn't get many resources to do things

[chrome talon]

hi guys

[gloomy timber]

lvl2 Verminia triggers a mini-quest and you can then craft hard mode potion

[chrome talon]

how to get acces to the game?

[smoky crater]

Pinned messages got info on that

[finite stone]

Ah you have another small fable to do then once you get Verminia to 2, but after Witch Withdrawn and Shewolf you've probably done all fables

[peak sparrow]

Rly? How?

I dont have this hard mode potion thingy

[finite stone]

By increasing her bond rank. It's explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/Verminia:

[finite stone]

Yes you get it at Verminia rank 2

[peak sparrow]

Hmmm COOL! Thanks!

[tiny loom]

I’m doing that rn

[trail grail]

I noticed sometimes that blocking has a delayed input

[fallow arch]

wonder when this will be implemented

[twilit escarp]

It works but the scaling starts to malfunction after boss #8 (reportedly)

[fallow arch]

whats it gain?

[fervent locust]

Is there a way to change Soulframe's installation location? It's installing in my C: drive but I want it on my E: drive where I have all my games

[frigid spoke]

You choose the folder before you install it

[river elk]

so what does bond rank 2 for the forge lady do, think that happened.

[upbeat cradle]

it allows you to forge stuff that requires bond 2

same for bond 3

[river elk]

oh ok

[fervent locust]

Is this the screen where I choose?

[dusty hare]

when update?

[fervent locust]

I deleted everything and redownloaded but upon clicking the download program it brings this up

And it's still installing to the wrong drive

Aaaaand now the folder is back in the wrong drive >x(

[sly escarp]

It opening that is asking for the install location

[fervent locust]

-# oh!

I'm a bit of a dingus, lmao

[sly escarp]

It creates an auto hierarchy in a default drive, but you can manually set a folder you made yourself as the directory instead

What you downloaded and installed initially, the .msi, is the installer for the launcher

The launcher then installs the game

[teal steeple]

Here's an idea: Using wrist casters as shields when wielding single swords.

[jade latch]

That would be sick... or if like you cant use it to block, but if you parry with it it makes a cool magic shield during the parry