gameplay-discussion

[stuck cove]

My friend tried joining me and one and it kicked him out and sent him to a remote island with a world tree

[smoky crater]

3 star votives

[fathom river]

Oh

[fathom river]

Can I go there?

[polar elm]

whats a votive? lol

[smoky crater]

faction tales

[polar elm]

where can I access those

[smoky crater]

the island is not available atm no

[stuck cove]

Idk, wasn’t able to replicate it again

[smoky crater]

world trees

[fathom river]

Is it the island on the upper left corner of the map?

[smoky crater]

mhm

[stuck cove]

yeah

[dusky plover]

hey i didnt play for a while

can u mount the wolf or not yet ?

[smoky crater]

nope

[dusky plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-plankton-meme-ugly-plankton-ugly-face-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-15836444981074643801

[stuck cove]

lmao

[dusky plover]

ill come back in a few months again

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[stuck cove]

Does anyone know if quests/sparrows tales done around higher lvls will increase how much exp I get for my faction standing?

[smoky crater]

*watch the Warframe devstream at PAX East in an hour and a bit to maybe see something about mounts 👀 *

[dusky plover]

ty for ur response have a good day/night

[smoky crater]

both the star count and enemy level and if it ends in a dungeon affect the rep gained

[stuck cove]

mmm

ty

[smoky crater]

highest amount possible at the moment from a single tale is 1450 or 2900 if it ends in a dungeon

[polar elm]

how low is the drop chance on the seathorn?

[sly escarp]

Like 1/11 usually iirc

For 3 stars

[sage drift]

Finally got to play last night!

Thank you @spare badge for the code your the best!

I put unter 2 hours in so far i love the gameplay the combat feels heavy and with purpose

[stone walrus]

ok so this might be the noobiest question going, but is there any videos/guides on what to do once youve completed the story? like how to gear, how to level and unlock new pacts? i have literally no idea what to do now, other than run round and murder stuff XD

[sage drift]

How long was the story?

[stone walrus]

couple of hours maybe? and then i ran wrong and unlocked all the world trees to get rid of the fog of war, that took maybe another 30min - 1hr

[sage drift]

I just got the quil

[tawdry forge]

I didn't realize you had to destroy the lanterns, I thought they were pretty, so I left them

but I've done the stag and done two ancestor quests

[polar elm]

so is seathorn better then The Alder from the founder pack?

[polar elm]

less then 10 for now I believe

I did it pretty quick

[smoky crater]

8 fables at the moment yeah

technically 6 but 8 yes

[tawdry forge]

technically 6?

[finite stone]

8 that get recorded in the Journal, but there's also An Invitation and A Witch Withdrawn (then the 3 miniquests)

[finite stone]

technically 10 and 3 miniquests

DE mentioned smaller Fables getting renamed to either 'Larks' or 'Yarns' soon, but hasn't happened yet so a lot of them get bundled under Fables

Deadwood, Lightning and Mistress are the only ones to have explicitly been named Miniquests which leaves 10 Fables total

[tawdry forge]

so I could do everything is a single night if I wanted

and which gives you the person who can change your hairstyle?

[finite stone]

I think you maybe could if you rushed yeah, just depends what pace you like to enjoy story and exploration at

[finite stone]

Brewer of Hues

[tawdry forge]

well my brain would be like 'if I do the quests first I can explore all I want later'

[smoky crater]

technically 6 because the intro cinematic and the tutorial part where you choose your starting gear are 2 of the 8

so 6 that feel like actual proper quests

[tawdry forge]

well I found a map that has everything

so I'm using that for world trees

[white igloo]

It'd be funny if the secret island tree had bounties

[finite stone]

It has the salesprout votive, but no others yet

[polar elm]

does the game have a memory leak or something? my performance seems to decrease the longer I play

was getting a stable 120 and 2 hours later im down to like 105 with spikes down to like 85

[latent mango]

do you guys think reforging Avecs is a good idea or maybe a uncommon bow with hailshot is better?

[twilit escarp]

I've reforged mine, it was a fantastic choice

But it depends on a playstyle that you know you like

I like being a "true" marksman, and lining up the shots

[latent mango]

its a great bow but im thinking maybe a 20% charge speed with hailshot is gonna be insane

[twilit escarp]

Arrow Rain feels like cheating, or a necessary evil at least.. for me

[latent mango]

its overpowered because you can have 100% rune uptime with it, but runes are changing next patch

[finite stone]

It seems to have a slight one since P13 yeah, but fixed with a relog

[twilit escarp]

This is true, I find the skill reward of Avex is prime design

Nail the headshot? (A moderately difficult thing to do) = Get big damage

[smoky crater]

right click on the file and try "Repair"

[latent mango]

thing is, the avecs is insanely powerful in terms of raw damage compared to the other bows

[tight latch]

Is there any way to know quickly which garden you planted your seed in for founders?

[polar elm]

logging helped for like 20 mins and then it went down again lol

[latent mango]

not that I know of 😮 ... i try to remember it

[finite stone]

Yeah it's explained on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Eternium_Gardens page, you're looking for the yellow flower icon

[smoky crater]

the garden you planted in will have a lil icon in one of the corners

[tight latch]

Oh thank you!!

[twilit escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/martha-oprah-gif-13188899

https://tenor.com/view/battle-damaged-batman-rage-gif-18236802

[tight plover]

how do you defog the map?

[latent mango]

find the trees

[tight plover]

oh okay thanks 🙏

[candid cairn]

Is there a daily cap for earning standing?

[finite stone]

Yep! You can see it on https://wiki.avakot.org/Standing:

[candid cairn]

thank you

[fathom river]

I love that buried chest

[kindred glacier]

is the game playable right now?

[visual radish]

Yes, closed pre alpha tho

[kindred glacier]

so whats the game like is it a mmo lots of group content and grinding or is it more of a singleplayer game that you can play multiplayer

[eager delta]

definitely the latter, it does have plenty of grind but it's the enjoyable kind imo

[opal barn]

Can the wolf walker ability just be a straight up wolf transformation not whatever it currently is
With mounts coming it just feels redundant

[smoky crater]

also remove "lots of content" from that
not a lot of content yet

[visual radish]

Open world rpg pretty much

[visual radish]

Yeah this, the devs are not joking about pre alpha

[kindred glacier]

i just wanna know is it gonna be a game lets assume its full finished like way down the road will it be a game thats just i play for a couple weeks max out bored or will it be a infinite grind to do something harder i guess like diablo where you eventually beat the story but there is a endless amount of scaling content

[visual radish]

No idea

If you want any reference however vague it is then look towards warframe

We just know it aint an mmo or a soulslike

[smoky crater]

most likely both

[kindred glacier]

im just hoping for something thatll replace wow lol for me atleast not in general

[visual radish]

This probably wont be it then

[calm viper]

Is this gonna be like a destiny game? Like with dungeon and raids

[smoky crater]

nnnnope

[calm viper]

What would you guys compare it to?

[smoky crater]

been compared to elden ring, ghost of tsushima, witcher 3 in the past

[calm viper]

Im assuming is isn’t gonna be a actually mmorpg

[visual radish]

So far? Witcher 3 but with optional multiplayer

[smoky crater]

correct

[visual radish]

It is an open world rpg

[calm viper]

Oh kinda like fable then?

[normal sail]

co op open world rpg at that

[visual radish]

Kinda yeah

[calm viper]

That might be fun for a little atleast something coming out

[visual radish]

It has its quests and crafting, and is currently still at the beginning of development

[calm viper]

It actually has crafting😳

Nvm lowkey might be a w game now

[smoky crater]

that's what the steam page says anyway

[visual radish]

Subject to change in the future, from the latest devstream but we are still pretty far from that system being tackled

[visual radish]

Not that those are exactly accurate tbf

[calm viper]

I really wish there was a game like new world ngl

[kindred glacier]

so it wont be a 2026 launch then im assuming

[normal sail]

man soon™ they'll have to add "hammer" into the "forge your legend" sentence

[smoky crater]

fairly accurate in this case

[visual radish]

Nooope

[smoky crater]

2028 maybe

[visual radish]

Hard to say it will have any traditional launch tbh

Will likely just go like warframe and just keep being update without a "proper launch"

[kindred glacier]

idk im on the border lmao it isnt sounding like the videos i watched on it but maybe they was painting the long term picture

are they wiping each person after each playtest or if i play now ill keep my char

[visual radish]

Youtubers arent exactly on the business of precision and accuracy tbf

[visual radish]

No more planned wipes

[kindred glacier]

so best way is to become a founder right and i pretty much own the game

[smoky crater]

well... it'll be a free game anyway

[visual radish]

Free to play btw
So if you just wait for the next stream you have permanent access

[smoky crater]

on the 21st of next month

[kindred glacier]

anything worth being a founder for then

[visual radish]

And all the founder stuff will be farmable later (least the gameplay stuff)

[smoky crater]

access to the gear that they give early and without the need to craft or grind for them

[visual radish]

If you like the game and wanna throw money at them

[smoky crater]

• Arcs and moonsteel thread which alone make it worth it imo

arcs being the premium currency

and moonsteel thread being a transmog resource only available for said premium currency atm

[kindred glacier]

before i purchase and dive in lol do yall think it could eventually be a infinite grindy style game or is this something you beat and dont return to

[smoky crater]

well it'll be live service

[visual radish]

Much like warframe this is certainly gonna be an ongoing project

[smoky crater]

so definitely something you'll return to

[visual radish]

Like literally same people

[smoky crater]

or keep playing*

[kindred glacier]

yeah i know i just quit warframe prolly in like 2016 so im lost on the state oif that game i remember having fun on it tho

[smoky crater]

definitely worth returning to that game too btw 👀

wildly different experience to back then

[kindred glacier]

lol idk about all that i think necro prime like came out and i had got it then quit playing

[smoky crater]

even if just for the story quests

[kindred glacier]

or one of the primes

[normal sail]

why wait?
||8CAF||||-FDB3-||||AC95||||-3D9F||

[halcyon thicket]

10 years huh, a long time

[mystic tartan]

guys can you put multiple emails for better chances?

[halcyon thicket]

lmao

[smoky crater]

i guess....?

[halcyon thicket]

not the type of question you openly ask in the official discord of the game

[kindred glacier]

so i can purchase one of the $30 founder packs right now get two friend codes and all 3 of us cna start playing today?

[mystic tartan]

ty

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[kindred glacier]

alright which class is bis so i buy the right pack lmfao

[smoky crater]

probable tho that even with 5 emails you wouldn't get invited before the next stream

[visual radish]

They arent classes

[smoky crater]

mmmm i'd suggest just getting the one you like the look and/or sound of the most

but yeah there aren't classes really

[obsidian ember]

hi guyss how do i completely uninstall soulframe?

[smoky crater]

thru control panel afaik

[kindred glacier]

so you just play as one of the 3 characters and what you do is up to you?

[obsidian ember]

i heard uninstalling from apps will only remove 700mb

[visual radish]

They are sorta starter gear loosely aligned with con(courage/red), dex(grace/blue), int(spirit/blue)

[obsidian ember]

o.o

[mystic tartan]

is it a game where you feel like you are the charachter playing? then il make one that lookjs like me if not il js make a cool looking charachtwer

[visual radish]

Not even characters

[smoky crater]

not really. there's no different "characters". it's the same character, you just switch between ability sets (pacts)

[mystic tartan]

oohh

[lament path]

You can kinda see them as ability sets?

[visual radish]

^^

[kindred glacier]

im really intrigued lol it was either this or mortal 2

[twilit escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-shock-scared-psyduck-pokemon-gif-25805348

[smoky crater]

i'd say yeah

[smoky crater]

especially with low enough FoV it becomes very cinematic honestly

been playing at 40 myself

[normal sail]

not low FOV but yeah

[smoky crater]

that just looks like max FoV 👀

[normal sail]

it is, only becausr i love the person who decided that 70 shouldnt be the max

[smoky crater]

well yeah who in their right mind would pick 70 as the max

[mystic tartan]

lmaoo why

isnt there a disatvantage

[smoky crater]

like i said, results in a very cinematic feel

[kindred glacier]

is there multiplayer yet and if so how many people

im about to be coming as a group of 6 lol

[normal sail]

3 per squad

[smoky crater]

not really any disadvantage to it either, i pay close attention to sounds and to my surroundings
never had issues with it even

[twilit escarp]

That means you have 2 squads worth, which is twice what everyone else hs

[tight plover]

is there any way to travel faster? its been feeling like a walking simulator for some time

[smoky crater]

after completing The Waste Bear fable you unlock a limited form of fast traveling yes

fast traveling requires a resource, uses 1 each time you do, you get 1-3 of said resource and it has a 12h cooldown on pickups

you can also only fast travel to world trees and to your faction enclave

[tight plover]

how do I do it? I've completed the waste bear already

[smoky crater]

you can pick up the ||wevetseeds from the sapling next to verminias spot in the nightfold||

after that just hold left click on a world tree

[tight plover]

I see, thank you 🙏

[twilit escarp]

Just gonna go ahead and the bad guy saying if you don't enjoy traversing the open world... then it's questionable if a person enjoys open world games

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[halcyon thicket]

how many times are u gonna really enjoy traversing it

[tight plover]

I enjoy it while I'm following the story but while I'm trying to get standing its just repetitive

and makes the standing grind more lengthy than I'd like

[mystic tartan]

guys what is the q? it looks like a gust of wind

[halcyon thicket]

spectral sight

highlights stuff

[twilit escarp]

Racing games and FIFA, and trading card games are repetitive - It's a perspective thing perhaps

[smoky crater]

dw you'll realize the repetitiveness after a couple hundred hours

[daring gulch]

Damn i really wish this game can be on old gen and new gen consoles... not like other games i know, they stop making support the old even when they are people still playing the games and more with the costs of components rising...

[tender linden]

is the game f2p as much as warframe?

[halcyon thicket]

not 100%

maybe 80-90%

u cant earn premium currency for free, and there's gear temporarily behind a paywall

should be 100% like wf later on

[undone prawn]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[daring gulch]

another person hacked

welp normal thing...

But really wish this game dont stuck on New Gen consoles and support everyone equally...

[torpid canopy]

when doees preludes 14 release?

[twilit escarp]

Mid April

[smoky crater]

old gen console thing is....
said older console gen starts to be a decade old at this point.
as a whole they probably won't have support for too long either and it's another platform needing support taking increased effort to some degree probably idk how exactly it works
older gens gotta be let go at some point too ._.

[knotty moon]

Soulframe for PSX.

[smoky crater]

ahyes

[noble viper]

Here we go again with the long standing bug you can't find the last Ode in the last step of T3 and Sparrow stop guiding you to its location basically you lose all the progress for the tale no matter what !!!!

[echo token]

Fling it to #1438224825113120788 for posterity and (hopefully) a fix!

[twilit escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/lara-croft-tomb-raider-angry-gif-13282398

[noble viper]

Guess the only work around i found is to just look at the map and not depend on the sparrow for the last one

[twilit escarp]

Sparrow will bug sometimes

https://tenor.com/view/gifgod-remasteredgifs-jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-tip-hat-gif-15837780565091868534

[echo token]

The birb, it do its best.

[twilit escarp]

It do be that way

[static steeple]

My mouse bird is a little goofy. So it makes sense.

[toxic mauve]

Hm. I killed the Discharged Nimrod in Cogah about 20 times today, because I was hoping to get picktrix.
I got 0 runes from him. Not a single one.
Is there a bug or something?

[lapis fjord]

Guess what brought me up here...

[halcyon thicket]

Got flung by an enemy?

Never seen the balloon from up top

[north marsh]

How often do they give a key to play - is it like wait a week and its guaranteed or just wait week after week?

[lapis fjord]

Giant slapped like in the old days at skyrim

[halcyon thicket]

2000 codes each Wednesday

[lapis fjord]

The Tower is a lie by the way xD

[north marsh]

Oh cool -

[halcyon thicket]

Funny how u got up there the easy way and i the hard way

Shame that, was expecting to see the mini boss just hovering there

[lapis fjord]

Whats the hard way?

He got me here

[halcyon thicket]

I meant like before he breaks out

[lapis fjord]

Yeah that would be funny

[halcyon thicket]

Hard way is with bromius rump thump and jumping bugs

[lapis fjord]

I don´t know what that is and atthis piont I´m to afraid to ask

In a completely unrelated topic... is there a unstuck button?
Or fast travel for that matter?

[halcyon thicket]

U can jump up

[toxic mauve]

open chat with T and type /unstuck

[lapis fjord]

I´m in a prospn xD

[halcyon thicket]

Oh ur way down

[lapis fjord]

I guess grey health bar means i´m not supposed to kill em yet?

[toxic mauve]

means their armor level is higher then your damage level... or something like that

[shy carbon]

The game looks so good I can’t wait for it to release

[lapis fjord]

I feel like ranged is a cakewalk, about to forge some melee weapons but staff is super cheesy...

[toxic mauve]

staff is way underpowered, in my opinion. on higher level I do pretty much no damage at all with staff

[twilit escarp]

Boy, do I have news for you

Lol

[lapis fjord]

Yeah dmg is laking but you can cite them so easily and cc them and all, bow must be even easier

can I switch classes somewhere? or do I have to buy?

and can I farm real money currency ingame?

[toxic mauve]

you switch by building and equipping a different pact.
well... prism sets your stats, pact the skills. armor and weapons just scale off of the prism thingy

[lapis fjord]

where can I find it? or who does it drop from?

the pact

[toxic mauve]

some you get from story/missions. and some you can buy at the factions with your reputation

[lapis fjord]

thx

[toxic mauve]

I was today levels old, when I learned, that the enemies level keeps increasing while in Cogah. they just reached level 100 and the only way I am still able to play is with bow. As mage, even with my best gear I do ~40 damage with a full charged heavy attack.
with bow however, a charged shot to the head still does 400+ damage. regular shot, no smite

so balance definitely seems off to me

[lapis fjord]

lel ok, yes it seems realy rough at many fronts but it will get there I hope

[wraith socket]

what are these alien text that pops up every so often from loots/interactions?

[toxic mauve]

you need to collect knowledge about that location. the 3 pips above the name means, there are 3 you need to collect. they will translate the name.
I usually see 1-2 per location, but next time you're there there will be more

it's like a glowing cloud. or at least at night its glowing, during day sometimes hard to see

[wraith socket]

ahh so its a mechanic to have the map unlocked

[wild crag]

i cant wait for this game to release on console, its a really cool game

[wraith socket]

btw whats this black cloud randomly around the ui

[west lantern]

Do those motes pop up in random locations or are they fixed?

[toxic mauve]

yeah. as far as I can tell, there is no reward for it yet, but yes.

[west lantern]

Dust mote, you can pop them like bubblewrap and the good feeling is all you get.

[toxic mauve]

I don't know, but I assume there is a bunch of locations where they can spawn

also, if you find more then one per location, go back to your hideout, before collecting the next one. I often didn't have it count if I didn't do that, but it always worked when I did.

[wraith socket]

what are these btw?

[toxic mauve]

that's where your bird/rat respawns, when you die. it automatically picks the nearest

[spice garden]

Where (if anywhere) is the best farm for Sappheline?

[noble viper]

Hi can somebody please confirm if the fragment of this weapon drops from this T3 , because i've done over 100 of them since P13 and even that only 1 frag i got not sure was from this Tale ?

[toxic mauve]

I just started playing in P13, and I got it. so... yeah, it does drop 😅
but late. I already had everything bought from the Alca Faction Shop, and are just grinding to get 5 of each blessing, before switching to the next one, and eventually it was just there to build, didn't even notice when it dropped.

[noble viper]

i'm already Rank 4 on Alca faction and almost Rank 5 on Keith do i have to do Alica T3 to get it to drop or i can do it on any faction, i stopped doing everything and i'm only doing T3 tales and it Never drop for me !!!

[toxic mauve]

according to info online it can drop from any T3 Faction Tale.
But since I am Alca, I can't tell you if that's still true

[sleek locust]

I have a quick question, so I am getting back into the game and are seeing people on youtube able to replay a mission where you choose your mother and can edit their character, I have an old soulframe account and never played this mission. Am I locked out basically from accessing it right now?

[toxic mauve]

do you have this entry in your journal?

[sleek locust]

yes i have that

[toxic mauve]

well, try the replay button there 🙂
otherwise, you can also edit your look at verminia

well, almost everything 😉

[sleek locust]

sweet thank you, its been a while since i played! a lot to catch up on

[toxic mauve]

enjoy 🤗

[lapis fjord]

how do I fast travel

[unborn bear]

clip your heel three times and reapet there is no place like home

or grow some seeds after you do later quests lol

[lapis fjord]

Why no glider xD

[twilit escarp]

Gliders would so cool lol

[lapis fjord]

I´m the King of the world

[noble viper]

Man this can't be right i'm tired of this spent a VERY LONG TIME just to get this weapon no fragments drop is this gucha gamee now or what eeven if it's gucha it can't have rating drop like this

[twilit escarp]

Gacha*

https://tenor.com/view/summoners-war-lightning-summoners-war-lightning-summoners-war-summon-summon-gif-17920540

[noble viper]

Who cares you got the damn point and screw with me now i'm sooo freaking frustrated of this

[twilit escarp]

Gacha games are whole nother level tbh

I found Soulframe to be fair especially in contrast to what abusive systems actually look like

The problem comes down to individuals hyperfixating on the end game and not enjoying the journey. In my opinion…

[noble viper]

Do you understand what i'm even saying been trying to get frags to drop since day 1 of P13 for that weapn that's over month and it doesnt drop

[twilit escarp]

That is certainly unfortunate, I’m sorry to hear this

[spare badge]

Maybe not the world, but the Envoy is the rightful ruler of Midrath.

[twilit escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-arwen-royalty-lotr-gif-25814454

[finite stone]

It's us or her, and I sure do want that armour

[noble viper]

clearly not only me struggling to get frags to this weapon what's the point putting a weapon in game and and make it even try it https://youtu.be/hh0vDCnPZys?si=yqiStjwFTxomGNSx

[twilit escarp]

Rare items are indeed very rare

[spare badge]

We just need to locate the family Glaive.

[noble viper]

Nuh that's regarded RNG nothing should be this rare taking you over a month

[frail bone]

Hello, is there a lot of co-op in the game?

Are there plans for clans? And clan-specific content?

[twilit escarp]

I would not be against more weapon types, I’m sure it’s on the queue tbh, inevitable

[twilit escarp]

The game is equally solo and co-op and can be played entirely in either style

[spare badge]

Precklies say hello. It took me a month to get 1 fragment and 3 more preludes to finally get a spare fragment to drop.

[finite stone]

There is the option for a lot of co-op, but you can also play the game solo, your choice! (Just avoid doing fables in co-op because bugs. Vlad will tell you about this 😄 )

Clans are planned for future, but no specifics yet

[twilit escarp]

Co-op does make some boss encounters and game modes easier to deal with though

[finite stone]

Yeah we've got this one coming, I guess a giant chakram is potentially a gateway into smaller glaives as well!

[twilit escarp]

Soul Calibur flashbacks

My fave weapon tbh

Hula-Hoop’m to death

[spare badge]

In past devstreams, DE did say yes there will be glaives.

[twilit escarp]

Glaive intensifies

[frail bone]

Are clans definitely planned? I love it when there's a lot of co-op in a game and it's easy to find someone to play with.

[finite stone]

They are yeah! They've mentioned them 2 times total I think? Or maybe 3

[twilit escarp]

Clan v Clan pvp 😍🤤

[spare badge]

When asked about them, they said yes.

[finite stone]

Clan Regatta tournaments, now that could be fun

[spare badge]

Go watch the latest devstream. PvP is not currently on the table.

[unborn bear]

That really is unfortunate it only took me a day max to get that weapon.

[twilit escarp]

Keyword currently?

[frail bone]

What is known about resetting progress?

[unborn bear]

Hopefully neverly 🤣

[finite stone]

Everything known about it is on here if you need it! https://wiki.avakot.org/Account_Resets (the important thing is that they do not plan any more forced resets)

[twilit escarp]

I love PvP, make it optional so those who want to.. can.. and those who don’t want to.. don’t have to.

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[spare badge]

"on the table = being discussed" It's possible for something to be "on the table" and discarded because it was discusssed and found a bad idea.

[noble viper]

That's what i'm saying it's freaking bugged or they changed the source drop without updating the info in the wiki

[unborn bear]

True im a more pve guy then pvp tbf lol.

[twilit escarp]

Well idk… seems like it would definitely solve the whole “this game is too easy” people for sure

I fail to see why optional pvp for those who want to is a “bad idea”

[spare badge]

Most of us don't want PVP. Only a small vocal group wants it.

[twilit escarp]

But thats just me

[finite stone]

I mean, we had this same discussion the other day but unless it's outsourced to a separate team, there's unfortunately no such thing as optional when trying to implement a significant feature into a game that does not have it. All the players who want more actual Soulframe would have no way to avoid the fact that development time is taken away from the actual game

To take this PvE game and put PvP into it would involve immense development work on new interactions and mechanics for each arcanic and rune, taking away numerous hours from development of the main game (or requiring DE to outsource to a separate team entirely). Either that, or it'd just have to not have pacts and runes which seems a bit pointless. I'm very glad DE don't want to take time away from the game to do PvP, at least for a long while

[twilit escarp]

So cater to that group without dragging the others? Why does it hurt them?

[spare badge]

#gameplay-discussion message

[finite stone]

Now if it were outsourced, like Warframe's recent 'The Teacher' tutorial quest, that could potentially be something they look at years down the line? But with how Conclave went, and with how focused Soulframe is on an Envoy vs Ode narrative experience, I can't see them wanting to 🤷‍♂️

[twilit escarp]

I mean maybe we just have different visions in mind that you are perceiving it will somehow take a lot of resource to create

[finite stone]

I'm not too sure what you mean here - how would PvP existing make fighting the actual Ode more tough/interesting? We need tougher and smarter PvE enemies for sure

[spare badge]

People wanting DE ot put time and effort into a game mode that will end up mostly abandoned, just like how Warframe's PVP is.

[finite stone]

Were you thinking just a quick friendly sparring mode without any pacts or runes? Like the warframe dojo one, vs an actual mode with its own UI, voicelines, progression etc?

If so then yeah that would take much less long I agree

[twilit escarp]

So in other games a duel mode exists where you create a temporary challenge, a countdown timer starts (get ready) and combat is enabled until one player reaches 0 hp.

After which they are restored to full hp.

Simple as. Like, I’ve coded in UE and Unity, a lot (almost all actually) of the code they need is already present in game.

[twilit escarp]

I have actually specifically said that every time this came up.. yes.

[unborn bear]

I can throw either way, if there is pvp I wouldnt touch it, but there is a good bit of people who prefer pve over pvp, thats why games like cod exist for people who love pvp, idk either way i dont care what happens later down the line, just that I wont ever touch pvp probably.

[finite stone]

That's fair, I thought you meant an actual gamemode, but as a quick spar yeah it wouldn't take any strenuous dev resource

Interestingly whilst I wouldn't touch an actual PvP mode, I would probably use a mini dueling feature to pass time whilst waiting for our 3rd party member to get to the dungeon entrance hahaha

[twilit escarp]

Eventually.. I wouldnt be against it but a duel mode for sure is “needed” and that’s just my opinion

It gives a subset of the community an outlet without infringing on pve lovers

[twilit escarp]

Well, exactly

[vast pasture]

Sun & Moon from Warframe should be in Soulframe

[north nimbus]

Why does it use the processor so poorly? Does anyone know how to fix it?

[spare badge]

It would need a second sun.

[vast pasture]

Sonsun & Moon

[plucky snow]

Hey everyone, finally getting to try soulframe for the first time today and I'm having pretty hard choice paralysis picking a pact, I just want to know is it possible later in the game to use different weapon classes across pacts (i.e. having a sword as grace or a bow as spirit) or in general do you get to mix stuff up later on?

[finite stone]

Yep! You can obtain, and mix, every single item in the game. Don't worry at all about commitment

[twilit escarp]

Oscelda

[finite stone]

(You will need to purchase some inventory slots though if you want to own everything at one time)

[plucky snow]

Thank you so much, massive sigh of relief lol

[spare badge]

Yes, the more you unlock, the more variety of builds you get.

[twilit escarp]

Oscelda Juniper bow

Its the best

[finite stone]

In terms of things to actually worry about / be aware of, there are really only three rules in soulframe right now

• never sell juniper
• never sell an omen pact (since DE removed the way to reobtain them in P13)
• never spend arcs on rushing crafts unless you very specifically want to spend money on the temporary rush of a craft over the permanent boost of an inventory slot

I think those are the only mistakes you can make

[polar elm]

fix da chatttt ahhh

its escaping its bounds

[plucky snow]

Alright, easy enough to remember, third one is definitely something I've regretted doing with plat in warframe 🥲

[spare badge]

Unless you plan on donateing for arcs or getting the founders packs, you'll want to use your arcs for a few pact slots, and then weapons slots.

[twilit escarp]

I rush crafting alllll the time

Regret makes me stronger

[plucky snow]

Yeah I'm looking at potentially getting a founders pack, I wanted to take tonight and tomorrow to try out the game and see if it's my taste before I commit to it

So if I can get every single item, when picking a pact is it the magick i should be mostly concerned about? Or are those obtainable in some way aswell?

[spare badge]

Yeah. Founders aren't going anywhere soon. DE said they'll give a 30 days heads up before founders goes away. So take your time and get familiair with the game. See if it's something you really want to toss money at.

[twilit escarp]

Oscelda Juniper or Avex bow with Torrent

Very much not regret with those choices

[spare badge]

Oscelda is usually the best starter pact, as it has good crowd control and healing. You can farm up faction rep and get the other pacts and starter weapons.

[finite stone]

Ah rapiers confirmed still to be long blades (I missed this when I first watched the stream)

[twilit escarp]

Juniper is also the best

[finite stone]

there's now 3 subtypes in long blades

[plucky snow]

Alright, thank you!

[twilit escarp]

Oooh Navalha with Sapph joinery

[sly escarp]

But! Grace req

Which makes it cool

[finite stone]

Yesss!! Big new precedent 😍 means we could even see bows with courage reqs and things like that!

[sly escarp]

Tying it to a moveset is at least somewhat better than locking away a whole weapon type

Courage bows could be crossbows

[twilit escarp]

Avex already requires... 16? Which is enough to deny a full grace prism.. for example

[sly escarp]

Spirit flyblade that casts a lightning spell on hit, like a rune marble

[finite stone]

It does yeah, still the 14 grace though and gotta hit both - now that we have a long blade which doesn't require the 'main virtue' for that weapon class, it means we could see that happen more often

[twilit escarp]

Verus' Assassin is the only way currently, I think... or at least is optimal

[sly escarp]

Dewelion:

[finite stone]

Because previously they laid it out like this

Weapon Attunement - Entire weapon categories are standardised to align with a Virtue!!

Courage:

Large melee weapons including:

• Swords
• Greatswords
• Polearms

Grace:

Small melee weapons including:

• Daggers
• Splitswords
• Flyblades
  (They didn't mention bows but as we now know they are Grace)

Spirit:

• Magick weapons

The majority of weapons have split scaling to align with multiple attunements

[sly escarp]

Would imagine Dewelion was kinda the prototype for the move set in a way

[twilit escarp]

Eventually a weapon for every prism would be kinda cool... in terms of reqs and players being prompted to move stats around for different playstyles

[sly escarp]

Might even get the Rapier moves in p14, maybe

[finite stone]

You know what I had no idea Dewelion didn't require any courage at all 😂 that's crazy was it like that ever since P13?!

[sly escarp]

It requires Grace!

Of all the things!

Also it broke and doesn't have a scaling cap, making it the best long blade in the game atm

Grace winning yet again

In p13

[twilit escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/dartangian-yay-gif-22811718

[finite stone]

It must have been a pretty last minute decision for them if they had them laid out in categories before, I think it's great to see more options though, the requirement restriction was the worst part of the rework (I actually like prisms because they come with lore )

[twilit escarp]

It's Grace's world... the other two virtues just pay rent

[sly escarp]

Think it's fine to have outliers, especially if they have diff move sets

A rapier is def bot a Courage weapon, even if it is a long blade

[finite stone]

Yeah completely agreed! I still hope we see more different requirements even in the same moveset as well, I like the idea that every build will have at least one option for every weapon type (ie a courage staff and a grace staff, etc)

[modest crater]

🙁 entire old house of cluttered grandparents i live on a couch on ceiling collapse, no power.. see ya'll around the next update

[twilit escarp]

Wishing you a speedy return to normalcy @modest crater

[sly escarp]

Would say yes, but: make the off virtue ones weaker, as they're a bit more of an off colour option.

If you want the BEST greatsword, use Courage, but here's an okay greatsword for Grace if you wanna do that.

[echo token]

I am perhaps a little too excited for the rapier.

[sly escarp]

Which means not excited enough for the Sword and Board

[echo token]

Fair! But we've already got one of those.

Two, in fact.

[sly escarp]

But this one has unique moves!

NEW MOVESET sword and board

[finite stone]

You act like that's a good thing 😭 finally shields won't be as neglected as they have been

[echo token]

Consider my interest piqued.

[echo token]

Fair point. I think sword & board would get more attention if its skill tree focus was...well. Blocking.

[sly escarp]

Look at the animation stance when blocking. Sword had back and the tip pointed in front of the player. A counter stance for after deflecting an attack. Most SnS have the sword down and back in a sturdier blocking stance.

[hallow prawn]

gossamer quartz is really going to be the reason i stop playing this game

[echo token]

A much less passive stance. Alright, this might be fun.

[sly escarp]

The attacks seemed a bit different too, hard to tell without a side by side

[final rock]

run through dungeons and open rare chests. can also buy em when avakot sells em.

[visual radish]

gonna have to swap greatswords and shields soon huh

[hallow prawn]

i love getting one per dungeon run when i need 50

[dull junco]

I been wondering what graphic settings should i be running with a gtx 1660

[frigid agate]

You should get a stable 60 fps at medium in 1080p

Just tweak with the settings a bit, the game is surprisingly well optimized for a pre-alpha

[dull junco]

Yeah and i used fsr so i get 80

Yeah it is

When i run low settings i get 200 fps

I was in shock without any upscaling or anything

[wraith socket]

when do i unlock crafting, im just picking up alot of materials i come across but im still early game and no npc to sell me items either

[finite stone]

The way to unlock it is explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/Crafting along with subfeatures like tuvalkane bonding, joineries/reforging, etc 😄 but if you don't want spoilers or to rush straight to it, dw it's something you'll come across whilst exploring the world

[wraith socket]

is it through questing or ill have to find it?

[finite stone]

a bit of both - you can find it in the world at any point, but also once you've quested to a certain point (I think it's just after An Invitation), a note will appear in a convenient spot that will guide you too

[tight plover]

are there any known quick ways to get river pearls to craft with?

[twilit escarp]

Walking along rivers

[tight plover]

I thought so, I must be unlucky then or maybe I'm not looking hard enough

[twilit escarp]

I think I’m just committed more than most people

Like if I tell myself to farm river pearls, I walk the entirety of several rivers across the map

From what I hear… from others it sounds like they do the equivalent of “dad” looking for something and says he cant find it

[tight plover]

it sounds like I'll be walking the lengths of several rivers then

[twilit escarp]

😄

[river elk]

shows up at same time if exploring but after the first quest, had them both there just did the crafting one first but I also walked passed the area linked to it before doing it.

[narrow condor]

are we gonna have mounts finally?

[sly escarp]

They said it was in the works for the Tennocon showcase iirc

[sinful scarab]

probably in p15 if we’re lucky or p16

[half talon]

Also getting Momma Envoy lore, Nightling lore and, in case y'all didn't see it, it def looked like ||momma has become one of the ancestors; she is ghost, while we are alive||

[kindred glacier]

Welp I bought the founder thing and handed out 10 copies so add 11 players to the player base

Do I get a cool discord tag 👀

[spare badge]

Not yet.

I believe discord tags will eventually be a thing for founders. For now, you can go stealth like me, or be like those who put "[founder]" or similar in their server names.

[daring jacinth]

I was always confused by that, thanks for the clarification

[dim swan]

Can anyone explain to me how a Moras Hand pact player is supposed to take advantage of the 'Hungry Flame' Passive? I feel like there aren't many sources of fire damage to receive

[twilit escarp]

The '2' ability counts as being on fire

Max Passive - Press 2

[dim swan]

Ahhhh, okay thank you!

[kindred glacier]

What’s the most underplayed build so I can make it bis 😂 I’m going tank atm

[twilit escarp]

Underplayed, great question

All in one build?

Sirin, and Gathannan... I guess?

Or, actually Ode Tempest kinda lack-luster at the moment... because of comparison to Oscelda. It's great... but if you use it you might see why some players feel like it's missing something

[spare badge]

Tempest with a pair of starter weapons and armor you don't have the stats for.

[twilit escarp]

Underplayed doesn't mean beginner weapons to me... it just means a majority of players don't choose it regardless of strength

Imo Gathannan fits that desc

[spare badge]

To me, it means "nobody's using this cause it sucks".

[twilit escarp]

Underplayed has a set meaning - The rest is either implied, or chosen to be assumed

[final rock]

Seathorn because I don't have it :D

[twilit escarp]

A fair take lmao

[final rock]

personally haven't tried shields yet nor do I use Tempest or Sirin often

[kindred glacier]

😂 I’m just meaning when you do group play what do you never ever see people playing like is sword and shield non existent right now

[final rock]

dont see spears often

[lament path]

I run sword and shield on oscelda, sword and shield might be a bit rarer now because there are only two weapons for that one

[final rock]

ive seen people run durglint shields somewhat often

[lament path]

Spears are pretty good but I don't see them often either yeah

shortblades are a rare sight compared to how many shortblade weapons there are in both main and sidearm

[spare badge]

Polearms are kinda clunky.

[final rock]

prob dont see em as often since the ones worth running are sidearms

[twilit escarp]

(With a grain of salt here) - The two most major camps are Tetherin + Purity + Treefell and Oscelda w/ Avex or Juniper w/ Alca's Breath or Torrent

Seathorn everyone says doesn't actually exist and the devs are lying (I have it - very nice)

So if by underplayed you mean, not considered strong (but not rusted copper sword beginner stuff) then... Ode Tempest and Gathannan

[lament path]

Yeah do need some time to get used to them, but throwing them is really nice

Archer osceldas being that common?

[final rock]

Yeah Seathorn drops seem rather low. 1 frag after 20 or so T3s in my experience

[twilit escarp]

In current end game content because of heals and CC moveset

[final rock]

Oscelda and Tethren are the best since they keep you alive and help you deal significant single target dmg

[lament path]

Yeah, some way of health regain that isnt potions is really nice in cogah

[twilit escarp]

Oscelda has the monopoly on the healies

[lament path]

Definitely has especially with the last prelude for spirit boosting cooldowns even more

[final rock]

Tethrens heal on kill is real good if you arent getting hit constantly. There is also sympathy.

[twilit escarp]

If Oscelda is standing in water they don't have cooldowns

[final rock]

Rood 1 is also a life leach, but in P13 it felt inconsistant when I tried using it.

was solid in P10 tho.

[lament path]

Oscelda in a puddle ascends to godhood pretty much

[twilit escarp]

Unlimited hospital lettuce

[lament path]

I main oscelda with shield at the moment, solo cogah is pretty chill

Does petrification still not work in multi?

[twilit escarp]

I've never had a problem with it

[lament path]

If you arent a host petrification tended to instantly break, bit of a bug

[final rock]

I just run teth in multiplayer

abilities can get wonky as a client

[twilit escarp]

I've still not encountered problems like that

[spare badge]

Do MP enough as client and law of averages says you eventually will.

[spare badge]

Sometimes if fails to work solo.

[tribal cloak]

Is Soulframe officially released yet?

[twilit escarp]

Pre-Alpha, and no... depending on the word "official"

[tribal cloak]

😂 😂 Aight, that's all I needed to know.

[final rock]

nope still closed

[spare badge]

Maybe in 3 years or so.

[pulsar tundra]

You joke... right

[final rock]

they should make soulframe look worse so people's expectations lower

who needs shaders anyways?

[spare badge]

No. Guestimation based on DE wanting the game to be a huge expansive ARPG and after a couple of years, we've still just got a hadful of fables and the tutorial island isn't fully fleshed out yet.

[normal sail]

force low graphics for everyone in p14

[twilit escarp]

People asking if SF is gonna run DLSS knowing full-well 90% of them won't be able to run it without lag or crashing

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

[kindred glacier]

So the founder currency I got is just used to pretty much get a few classes and weapons early without having to grind em out?

[lament path]

Slots and future fashion is my advice

[twilit escarp]

Everything is grinable except Paragon sword

Imo, if you do decide to buy weapons from the store, buy the 3* ones

And take your pick of Seathorn, Purity, or Avex (Going by community sentiment)

Weapon slots yes, followed by pact slots, then loadout slots

[lament path]

Seathorn and gathanan seem to be hard to get generally, those aren't for the impatient.

[twilit escarp]

Gathannan is somehwat hard to obtain, but also is not liked or used by most players

Seathorn is pretty nice, apparently though no one has it

[lament path]

Seathorn is just stuck in a massive lootpool

And quests take longer than single bosses

[kindred glacier]

No decided to randomly buy seathorn and siren to start the game as a stealth mage is this build gonna be viable at all 😂

[dusty hare]

DLSS5 soulframe

[twilit escarp]

You’ll get by

[lament path]

Any combo can work as long as you are skilled enough for it

[kindred glacier]

Is there a better seathorn build I should be doing

[twilit escarp]

So you have 3 main stats - Courage/Grace/Spirit.

As long as your gear matches your highest stat(s) your good

Everything else is mix and match as you like

You’ll see the virtue pips (C/G/S) on every gear item in different amounts

[sleek locust]

need help lol. what do we do with these ?

[kindred glacier]

@twilit escarp I dm ya if you could help it would be sick but if you just started also no worries

[twilit escarp]

Might be squadding up with a friend soon but send inv.. I can help for a bit maybe?

IGN: Sighduq

[kindred glacier]

I gotta get off for the night I just wanted to see if you could help me get a build based off this weapon that’s pretty good

[twilit escarp]

Ah ok

[kindred glacier]

If you can dm me a recommendation I’d appreciate it I’m brand new so learning but I’m also a min max guy on every game 😂 and I feel like siren aint it

[dusty hatch]

That's the best way to play the game, level everything you find and don't look for anything specific. If you'd go out of your way to only target farm specific things early on, you'd leave those things behind after fully leveling them anyways, to level the next thing. Minmaxing can only happen once you found everything

[twilit escarp]

I found it best to level everything as you come across it

Weapon maxed? Swap out
Pact maxed? Swap out

Down time when lvling pacts and weapons is wasted progress time.

[lament path]

Oscelda is a good starter pact as the healing allows for more mistakes to be made while you are learning the game. Teth is like a hammer that works well, syrin has a bit of a harder start

[river elk]

so even if you switch to another long blade, the first long blade should be lvld to 30 before that?

[twilit escarp]

Weapons keep levels unless you sell them

[limpid pike]

question how much has change for the "Dewelion Great Sword" to drop ?

[ripe bone]

its a longsword technically, but it has approximately 2% chance from vella at least. it also drops from kearnhold with and unknown chance and from collector with equal chance to all the rest of its drops

[limpid pike]

Thx no wonder i can't get the drop for months

[night arrow]

if i alt f4 here... could i come later and pick one?
i gotta do some calculations fr

gotta choose one between spirit or courage

[lament path]

Cant say what happens if you f4 mid decision there really, someone would have to have done it before to know that.
Pretty sure you can replay tales to change the bonus though

[night arrow]

dude

this tale is so damn long though

eh whatevs, im goin courage. i got spirit off the wolf

so this one can be courage

[karmic willow]

Not hopeful on this one, but is there a way to get a totem back if we accidently sell it? Got rid of one of my gold squirrel totems for magic and I'm feeling like its back to hunting them down to get it back

That tells me everything I need to know. I am off to the forest

[lament path]

No shortcuts for totems and runes yeahh

[karmic willow]

Haha no worries. I was in the middle of upgrading and releasing and got a bit click happy. Lesson learnt

[dapper rain]

can replay to chanfe

[dapper rain]

sucks. theres been requests for like 'are you really sure' when its something upgraded or runes. ive let a couple good things go as well

[karmic willow]

I really just wasnt paying attention which fully my bad. Thankfully running around they took pity on me and I managed to get a replacement. A lock feature would be primo

[dapper rain]

i think its not +1:+1 cuz of my bromius build it makes a difference on the extreme virtues and hybrid but not middle ground. breain not working right now so cant properly remember to explain.
perhaps a new project lol

[dapper rain]

good of u to own it. perhaps why rng gods kind to u lol . lock feature good idea

[heavy island]

guys when was last key?

[noble viper]

Hi i replayed a fable, ( which i actually don't recall playing before as my onboarding experience was with mother long ago) anyways i don't want to change anything in my current look am i cooked , neither change my original pack?

[unborn bear]

https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-i-was-having-a-stroke-david-mitchell-wilty-sick-mental-gif-7822845861119803077

[finite stone]

Don't worry you're fine! It's just a replay, your choice was made back in your original experience whether that was rise envoy or the old UI on the shoreline

[dapper rain]

cant change your starting class choice

[dapper rain]

what u can change by replaying fable is the choice during waste bear and shewolf snared that affects virtue

[fathom river]

There is a way to increase my capacity (weapons, pact, panoply) ??

[latent mango]

swipe

you need the paid currency to expand your inventory

[fathom river]

Only that?

There isnt an another way?

[latent mango]

nope

[fathom river]

and I think there isnt any way to get the paid currency for free (because it is paid)

[latent mango]

you get 100 for free when you make a new account

this gets you enough slots to level up many pacts and a few weapons but I keep selling off the weapons i dont need once i hit 30 with them

[fathom river]

ok thx

[smoky crater]

not yet

eventually gonna be a tradeable currency

just like platinum in warframe

[south finch]

Guys, what are the minimum and recommended system requirements for the game?

[smoky crater]

minimum = potato
recommended = hardcore potato

honest

[south finch]

Yes, I already saw it, but I don't really believe it. The graphics in the video look very good, but the requirements... at least Windows 7 and an I5 750 processor.

[smoky crater]

tbf yeah the requirements on the website are just placeholder copypaste from Warframes requirements from years ago but still

[weary knoll]

DE are Wazzards at optimization

[smoky crater]

of course you're not gonna be running on high or even medium graphics with a proper potato but you know

[halcyon thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TDNiO3Jggg

[sinful scarab]

its gonna run but won’t be pretty

[normal sail]

remember, warframe can run on androids and iphones

[south finch]

Is it worth playing with a friend? Is it worth the time?

[smoky crater]

slightly more complicated question maybe

[south finch]

https://klipy.com/gifs/clash-royale-epstein-legendary-chest

[smoky crater]

do note the game's in pre-alpha still, not a whole lot of content, story quests can cause prog stops if done in multiplayer, bugs as a whole especially in multiplayer are still plentiful

[south finch]

Well, that's understandable, it's still pre-alpha, but overall, is the game worth it?

[smoky crater]

i and a lot of others do find it fun yes

as for if it's worth it, i feel like that's a question you're gonna have to answer yourself by playing

nerd reactions are unnecessary like always but have fun i guess if you do decide to play

[finite stone]

I'm just getting this image of them like an awkward school bully asking for help with their homework

and when you do help they walk away like "thanks, nerd"

[smoky crater]

[bitter storm]

lol my light source buggin

[smoky crater]

they like doing that yeah

[bitter storm]

fire

[smoky crater]

not that i've ever seen that happen myself ._.

[normal sail]

wagiii is yet to experience the 4th dimension lamp

[raven axle]

same

[bitter storm]

lmao fire

[tight plover]

can multiple vadagar bears spawn in one night cycle?

[sinful scarab]

randomly in the world? No, through votives? Yes

doesn’t have to be night time for votives either

[tight plover]

okay that's great thanks

[jaunty ravine]

hi guys, I couldn't find any information on this and since I am not familiars myself - will those preludes last forever so we can continue testing or do they close at some point?

[weary knoll]

As far as we know, it will eventually just open up to public

[smoky crater]

continues in 1 form or another to release

[echo token]

Also, when you're accepted into preludes, you're accepted into the next stage as well.

[magic vault]

"Hey guys, how's it going?

I have a question, i received a Soulframe access code via steam drop about 5 days ago, but i can't redeem it now, does anyone know if these codes have a short expiration period?
and if it’s not an expiration issue, what’s the best way to resolve this?

[echo token]

Codes shouldn't expire until used, best of my knowledge.

[normal sail]

it should have been auto applied to your account, in the management tab does it say “Access Enabled”

[magic vault]

I didn't use the code, but somehow it got activated on my account. Thanks, guys!

[normal sail]

yeah if its the first code you get via twitch drop it automagically applies it to your account

[halcyon thicket]

They never say that on stream

[magic vault]

I didn't know that good thing I used my main account, haha

[normal sail]

yeah its odd, but its something ive seen the mods say in similar situations

[wary laurel]

unbearable playing todaytits so slow its horrible been playing for 2 months never had this bad

[teal steeple]

Not liking these drop chances...

[weary knoll]

If it helps, the organ does determin what armor piece drops

[teal steeple]

I have been doing all three.

I still need fragments for all three parts.

[inland nebula]

HELP! THE ODE MINIATURISED ME!

[teal steeple]

Honey, I shrunk the Envoy!

[finite stone]

😭

[normal sail]

honey i shrunk the envoy

-# on the other hand; HOW

[finite stone]

by making verminia REALLY angry

-# new P14 boss

[normal sail]

poppet mount

DE write this down!

[teal steeple]

Why is Lady Deora part of the Silent Rose, the Grace faction, when her armour (and polearm) scales with Courage and Spirit, is she stupid?

[smoky crater]

because it's melee oriented

[teal steeple]

Maybe this is why she was so easy as a boss?

[smoky crater]

i mean... she's a literal tutorial boss even

[teal steeple]

Yeah, but she would have kicked our arse if she allocated her stats better!

[smoky crater]

[void marten]

Is Sirin clone arcanic bugged?

Each time I cast it, the game micro freezes

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[finite stone]

Deora doesn't do meta; she's playing soulframe purely for the vibes

[vagrant kayak]

The armor being Courage and Spirit makes sense but I wouldn't mind Rook becoming Courage/Grace as there's no polearm for that combo yet

And it'd make sense for the Grace Enclave weapon

[scenic solar]

Because they made the factions over a year ago and the virtue changes were just over a month ago?

Also “no polearm with that combo” there’s only 4 in the game period right now

[boreal roost]

hey all, which channel would be the best to ask for some answers? I downloaded the launcher, launch the launcher (xD) that I downloaded, a window pops and nothing else happens...

[scenic solar]

With the virtue rework they did too much at once, including forcing a bunch of weapons to be “designated” virtue requirements, like how flyblades and shortswords are grace and wrist casters are spirit, meaning there’s no sidearms for courage outside of an outlier that they made a problem they made for thenselves with this, Thrice Spurn, the Wyld Tethren flyblades

[smoky crater]

there should be a file explorer window in the background that pops up. it's there for you to select the installation location for the game

[boreal roost]

this windows pops out for 1s and nothing else...

[smoky crater]

oooh you meant launching the .msi file i see 👀

mmm... try right clicking the .msi file and "Repair" it

[void marten]

Thanks

Also, wanted to ask if anyone knows if Orengall quest can be done in multiplayer? I know it cannot be started, at least me and my gf couldn’t done it in her world, but does the quest progress? She’s in the in between of freeing Orengall and waiting for her to make an appearance

[smoky crater]

should be able to however that's probably the most progression stop bug prone quest in the game atm so i would suggest doing it solo

[knotty moon]

All quest should be able to be started and completed in MP (save the very first one "Rise, Envoy!"), in theory, in practice there are plenty of bugs.

Do note that the world state, and quest availability is based on the host world state.

[hardy sphinx]

hey i have a low-end pc and im thinking of upgrade. id like to know what you're using and whats ur recommendations for me. im currently on a rtx 3050 8gb and it's taking 100% of it, also on a 16gb ram dd5. it's taking nearly 4gb.

[smoky crater]

neither of those things are unusual i'll just say that

like in general for gaming it is the norm that a gpu would be running at 100%

[knotty moon]

I use a rx 5700 xt at maximum graphics (though at 720p), no problem here, make of that what you will.
I don't think more ram is going to help you, unless you use a lot on background stuff.

[smoky crater]

more ram is not gonna help if we're talking about just playing soulframe no

faster ram? also no

[river elk]

yeah I am on an rtx3050 with a 43 inch screen max graphics and mine is fine.

[smoky crater]

for recommendations... all we'd really need to know is budget and what your goals or expectations would be for performance and graphics settings (as in whether you're wanting to run on low/medium/high graphics)

[boreal roost]

it worked, thanks 🙂

[hardy sphinx]

i should be more specific on my questions. so, i can run the game, but often at 60-ish fps. ideally i'd like to run at least at consistent 100fps on max (optimized) graphics. i dont have a budget for that, the thing is that im running on a 1080p so it shouldn't huge setup i guess.

[smoky crater]

so are you asking about what to change graphics wise to achieve said 100fps or?

because rtx3050, atleast 100fps and "max (optimized) graphics" don't really go hand in hand

[hardy sphinx]

no, im more like asking if you recommend me a 'better' setup. cuz what im thinking is that my setup isnt good enough to run the game properly. it feels laggy and stuff as if it was on a 60hz monitor.

obs my rtx 3050 is 8gb vram

[smoky crater]

first time exploring the map will be slightly stuttery because it's loading shaders for the first time.

so if it's about upgrading the actual physical components, all you'd need to upgrade is the gpu, which is what i mentioned we'd really just need to know your budget for

[hardy sphinx]

yea but it's weird cuz u said you get 100fps on the same gpu so now im confused. i dont have a specific budget. im coonsidering a rtx 5070 12gb.

[smoky crater]

no one said they were getting 100fps on the same gpu

[halcyon thicket]

Just look up on YouTube

Lag and stutter might be another issue

[full wind]

Is it bugged, or do I need to do something else on the map first?

[knotty moon]

Need something else, the birb should lead you to the objectives.

[full wind]

The bird brought me here.

[knotty moon]

After interacting with that once it should lead you to the stuff to unlock it, if it doesn't search around for broken trees.

(or might want to consider relogging, not sure how feasible is to find them on your own)

[full wind]

Thanks, I'll try

[red scaffold]

Does anyone know if there are inventory limits on these items? It seems like there is, but it does not warn you.

[halcyon thicket]

50

[remote field]

does anyone know if wyld sirin only fights with a bow or when its close combat is the bow used as a weapon to fight with? it would be really cool to have them pull an arrow and stab someone who is close range

[finite stone]

Wyld sirin is just a pact (the arm that gives you 3 abilities and 2 passives). Your weapon and your sidearm are separate pieces of equipment - you can use bows, greatswords, polearms, staffs, whatever you like

[smoky crater]

oh man i can tell you would've loved the old days of proper bow melee fighting...

[slim portal]

i dont know if its only me but the game feels already very warframe like in terms of weapons, already too many weapons without much or any difference in their playstyle, combined with very slow leveling of the said weapons, i dont think this progression style is suitable for a long term "slow paced" game

hopefully this changes in a good way

[red scaffold]

Can't be correct. I had 55 of one.

[halcyon thicket]

Earnin them in coop bypasses it, a bug

[tight plover]

I don't think it makes sense to say the weapons in wf don't have many differences in that category

so many different weapons have so many different styles and gimmicks

[slim portal]

with the help of weapon mods and after so many years of investments on to new weapons

i worded it badly but SF feels like early-mid WF

[red scaffold]

Is there a cap on self healing? I have noticed when I get injured sometimes there is a whited out area on my health, that I can self heal with leech attacks, but never beyond that.

[smoky crater]

that's the melee health regain mechanic

[red scaffold]

That

[smoky crater]

so basically when that area is there, that's the amount of damage you just took from the last damage instance, that you can regain by landing melee attacks

it's a "limited health leech" of sorts

[red scaffold]

That's the devil, how does it function? Because it never worked prior to me using my 20% health regain deer spirit on my weapon, is that right?

[smoky crater]

it's always active as long as you're fighting with a melee weapon

bow, magick and thrown weapons (flyblades) don't have it

[red scaffold]

So the deer spirit does nothing, or makes it faster?

[tight plover]

I see how it could feel that way too ngl

[smoky crater]

it makes you heal more health per hit

[smoky crater]

yeah you get a 20% boost to life gained from hits when you have that whited out area active there

[red scaffold]

But there is a limit on how much self healing can be pulled?

[smoky crater]

the limit is where the whited out area ends

[red scaffold]

So effectively, thie spirit is sort of pointless as long as you land your hits, the ultimate result is the same?

[smoky crater]

yes and no

[red scaffold]

Or does this give me 20% more health returned in TOTAL, vs 20% faster health returned of the set amount?

If you follow my question there

[finite stone]

I'm not sure if anyone's done the math on that yet at least not that I've seen so far!

[red scaffold]

Because I am in a spot where I can easily test this, if otherwise.

[smoky crater]

so lets say you have the whited out area active there, (for this explanations purpose i'll use simplified fake numbers), you deal 100 damage to the enemy and lets say you'd normally heal 25 health per hit with that 100 damage dealt, that totem increases that number by 20%, to 30 health per hit

[red scaffold]

If it's 20% more in total, it is MUCH better than just 20% faster of that set amount, assuming relative skill.

[finite stone]

Yeah that'd be so awesome! Like if a regain hit normally gave you 5%, does this totem mean you get:

• 6%

• or 25%

I'd have to assume it's the former but it'd be nice to know for certain lol

[smoky crater]

i doubt it'd be the 2nd option ngl

[finite stone]

Oh wait nice it's been tested?

[red scaffold]

I mean, that would make it somewhat weak, elsewise.

Relatively bad, even.

[finite stone]

Same but just looking to confirm either way

[red scaffold]

If you can still get the final result, then it is more of a crutch than a benefit.

[smoky crater]

no i made that up
that's just how i'd expect it to work

[red scaffold]

Ok, so, here is my thoughts.

[finite stone]

hahaha yea same I agree it's most likely

[smoky crater]

i don't do testing

[red scaffold]

Let's say we have 100 health.

We are hit for 50 health.

First question:

Does the default health leech effect allow me to return that 50 Health via landing those melee hits, or a lower amount?

Just to iron this out, before I begin my own testing.

[smoky crater]

you get to heal the amount of health you lost from the last damage instance

[red scaffold]

So yes. Alright, so to continue this line of thought:

[smoky crater]

getting hit again will reset that amount to that damage instance instead

[red scaffold]

Let's say we have 100 health.

We are hit for 50 health.

I hit back for 50 health, it takes let's say, two hits. 25 damage for 25 health.

As we can observe it takes around that on average anyway, usually 2-3 hits to restore health lost on average enemies.

Let's say I am using this rabbit that gives me 20% more health returned on the regain hits.

I am now at 50% health in this hypothetical, missing 50 health points.

Two possibilities.

Hypothetical 1:
It would allow me to get 20% more TOTAL health per hit.

Meaning, if I am hitting for 25 damage, to restore 25 health, it gives me 20% more of that 25. (6.25) more health a bit, but only to the total of my half missing health. Meaning, I am healing 31.25 health per hit instead of 25.

In our scenario, that is still only 2-3 hits to get the exact same result as the previous. You would need two of those souls on the weapon for it to ever even have any point. Making it stupid.

OR:

Hypothetical 2:

It is giving me 20% more health to be restored on the hits.

Meaning, If I have lost 50 health, I can restore beyond that 50. (This is only good in a situation where I have previously lost health, but still better than the previous arrangement.)

Pushing that limit up.

For example, I have 120 total health, I have lost 50, I can now gain back 20% more health in total than I could before, so I can gain 120% of that 50hp

Meaning I could gain up to 60 health back instead of 50.

That would make it useful, and not a crutch ability.

[wary laurel]

THE BOLT - what does this attack means?

how do i regain hits?

[stuck cove]

ugh, was farming for the last piece of the arbearer chest piece only for it to bug out and just not be in my inventory

[neat citrus]

what a text wall lol

literally takes a whole page lmao

[halcyon thicket]

They just explained it up there

[red scaffold]

It is the only way to explain the scenario.

[neat citrus]

formatting moment

[red scaffold]

A flat wall of text is painful to read, spacing is less eye burning.

[wary laurel]

the life-return %, increases when i do "what" hits?

[red scaffold]

Melee

[wary laurel]

thx U

[red scaffold]

The way it almost looks like, is it might be totally pointless.

As long as you are not intentionally using the worst weapon

TLDR:

Does the rabbit let you gain more health in total, or just speed up the rate that you already get it,

because if it is the second, it is the single most useless thing I can imagine,.

A useful crutch if you struggle with timing, I suppose.

Wait, I will simply test it.

[wary laurel]

DUCK has 1 in 6 change of smite +++ SQUIRELL has 1 in 13 change smite = what is end result? the smallest value or some mathematical formula?

[red scaffold]

1 in 6 is 16 percent, give or take

1 in 13 being a little over twice less as likely to happen

[twilit escarp]

It depends how they stack, perhaps.

Weapon Smite = %A
Squirrel Smite = %B
Rabbit Smite = %C

Damage = Base Instance - Triggering a chance of %A, B and C

How are they applied, and how are they stacked?

This info matters when deciding the result.

[safe canopy]

Sarah said the 1 in 6 is not working properly as of right now from what i remember

[shy carbon]

So the game is beautiful but like what am I supposed to be doing lol 😂

[safe canopy]

grinding ofc

[twilit escarp]

Adventuring, saving Alca from Beyond Petroleum

https://tenor.com/view/truth-gif-5593711

[shy carbon]

I’m just like do I do the main quest do I explore am I supposed to do anything in a specific order

[safe canopy]

there are like 8 quests

[shy carbon]

Oh so does those then go grind

[safe canopy]

after you done with them do whatever you want to, exploration, saving animals, getting all the stuff

[twilit escarp]

Grind before those quests, then do them, then grind after

[wary laurel]

all weapons scale at 30max?

[twilit escarp]

Yes

[wary laurel]

whats the best RUNE for short blade (sidearm)?

[twilit escarp]

Flitsmoke

[safe canopy]

probably hiding rune

invisible forever

[twilit escarp]

Only if you can guarantee chaining smite procs, but most of the time it lasts as long as the battle

[smoky crater]

by far the most boring one too tho

[safe canopy]

no duh

i get half back after killing

[twilit escarp]

Well I say this because that might not be the case forever

[safe canopy]

so as long as i kill im full on the smite energy

[wary laurel]

good night envoys, zzz 👋

[red scaffold]

So you only sometimes find a boss in the Dermak undercity then=

[safe canopy]

no

if u mean hewyl/vella they have their own dungeon

[twilit escarp]

Vella is in Undercity

[safe canopy]

thats what he asked

[unborn bear]

is the island tree counted towards the reward you get do anyone know?

[red scaffold]

I sometimes found a big woman with a sword in Dermak undercity, sometimes not, in the same place.

Also, what on earth is causing my audio to work in reverse, that

is definitely a new bug. I am hearing things infront of me, behind me,

That is funny though

[safe canopy]

might be vella, remember bosses have 30min cooldown, so if you go there before 30min cooldown you wont have a boss there

[red scaffold]

This was a 16hr difference.

Alo is there anyway to stop my character randomly turning around and blocking in the wrong direction?

Or anyway to stop my character randomly fondling his bird after killing an oil tower or so, causing us to just die instantly to any enemies nearby?

[red scaffold]

Fun fact, if you use the bear pact vine ability, and use it when people are on a plane higher than you, you can pull people underground.

[tepid hull]

How long does the cogah last?

[smoky crater]

until you die, run away from a Agari fight or relog

[red scaffold]

Longsword feels like it might just be a stronger version of the greatsword, hrm

Longsword getting so much more melee focused capacity, and the trade off being that greatswords get more...wait for it...throwing potential, is kind of unbelievably bad IMO, holy moly.

Oh, Longswords get more parry, and consective strike attacks, so more offensive and defensive ability vs, greatswords getting a sprint stagger is questionable, huh.

Is Longsword just a lot more loved by the devs than Greatsword right now, we reckon?

[smoky crater]

more like... longswords have been in the game since the start, and greatswords since P12

don't forget about the sprinting heavy attack on the greatswords tho, lot more useful than the light one

[halcyon thicket]

I like heavy attack builds on GS

Also ye that sprint attack can stun lock any enemy/boss

[red scaffold]

Definitely true,

Seems like the greatswords only benefit over the two so far is that it really can be used for a somewhat buggy gimick stunlock.

Hopefully it gets revisited though, for sure.

It feels like sprint attacks are very unreliable, as your character just locks on and decides to do a sliding regular attack most of the time, as well, due to the game design.

Though, for fun and just swinging it around, really really funs tuff.

[void marten]

Doesn't mattter, I'd heavy attack

[red scaffold]

Ironically, you would lose if you were doing it against a longsword user for no real reason.

Also, I keep seeing people that Wyld Tethren has better self healing than the bear pact, but I really do not know what that is based on.

[kindred glacier]

where is my friend codes at after i bought founders pack

[red scaffold]

https://www.soulframe.com

Go to your account management, far right side.

[kindred glacier]

thank you good sir

[sand oracle]

Sup, i'm thinking of getting the game in the founders pack, does anyone ever tried to play it on linux? Does it work?

[molten spade]

works fine on linux, you can just add the .msi to steam as a non steam game and it should work with proton

[red scaffold]

Ok, from trying greatsword on Cohah.

Ridiculous idea, do not do it. Longsword is just better in every possible avenue.

[winged garnet]

I was doing Cogah with the Paragon and Tethren and breezing through enemies. I quite enjoyed it.

[smoky crater]

Mfw paragon's the main weapon i ever used for cogah

[solemn sluice]

hey is there a way to keep the compass from disappearing on me automatically? it's a little annoying having to summon my bird every 30 seconds

[smoky crater]

There's a setting in the accessibility options yes

[lone wave]

If you go for a full Courage Build + Tethren and almost all of Mendicant King's armor and weapon. It's actually very Killer.

[solemn sluice]

oh i missed it tyty

[smoky crater]

hardly needed

[lone wave]

It's fast though, at least for me.

[smoky crater]

Fast yes, strong yes, needed...? Not at all

[sand oracle]

ty

[lone wave]

You're right, I just do this setup to blitz bosses and grind runes.

[smoky crater]

Yus

[lone wave]

Runes can give like 2500 of those totem points when you release them.

Good grind if you're trying to max out your runes and totems.

[red scaffold]

I will give it a go, hesitantly, fought the wazard, the greatsword attacks are so slow, he hits you every single time you land a hit, and sometimes you can't as he just flies away over and over.

Forcing you to beat it by spamming jump attacks or by stunlocking him, which is, I assume, Not intended for you to beat a boss by sprintstriking over and over.

[smoky crater]

I've dealt with wazzard just fine with greatswords

[red scaffold]

What did you do?

As far as I can see, basic swings will not hit him as long as he is moving.

Heavy attacks, which are slower, will also not hit as long as he is moving.

What is the resolution to this? Other than spamming the jump attack or the questionably intended stunlock spam from the sprint attack.

(Which does, in turn, turn the greatsword into a glorified "I win" button via a single mechanic.)

[lone wave]

I cheesed him in my own way, since Basker's (magick secondary) like throwing blades have lock on at a certain range. I made sure to invest in the skill that allowed me to cast faster standing still and do more damage at the end of a casting combo.

I used Tethren's 1st and 2nd for the damage boost. Make sure you have totems that give better smite chance so you can regain the abilities quicker and potentially heal.

[red scaffold]

So you beat him with throwing weapons?

[lone wave]

Magick weapons.

[red scaffold]

Oh, just to reitierate, the wazard is fine to deal with, my point is surrounding using the greatsword.

[weary knoll]

@smoky crater what set up do you use for the paragon, trying to put a build together for it

[smoky crater]

You know... I have no idea

[lone wave]

Oh my apologies, yeah with greatsword it can be slow, but I payed attention to where he reappears next when he sinks into the ground.

[smoky crater]

I dont do crazy builds or anything, i throw on what sounds like it might be good, armor wise even i maimly go for fashion, not armor values, and it works perfectly fine every time

[weary knoll]

I see I see

[lone wave]

Out of moonsteel?

[smoky crater]

I cba to minmax stuff or do proper buildcrafting,

[smoky crater]

Nope, havent used a single moonsteel thread yet and im at i think 51

[lone wave]

Build number?

[smoky crater]

Wah

[lone wave]

Is that like the number on the top right for equiping armor and such?

[smoky crater]

Nonono i mean 51 thread left still

I tend to hover in the 40-85 area tho, changes a lot

[lone wave]

Oooh, why do you have 51?

[smoky crater]

When it zomes to defence*

[smoky crater]

45 from paragon pack and 6 for free for just being there when they introduced the system

[red scaffold]

What can be gained from the Cogah, other than the cogah necklaces so far?

[smoky crater]

Runes

[twilit escarp]

Trauma, depression

[smoky crater]

Agari drop different runes in cogah

[red scaffold]

Oooh, thankyeeee

[jolly dome]

is there a way to avoid the oscelda skills getting stuck on cooldown and not recharging? I have read that you can fix it by stepping in water or going to change pact, but it's happening just about every fight I'm in, this is making the class kind of an awful experience

[kindred glacier]

can i get anyone to help me make a build that can help me through the game a bit

[lone wave]

Stepping in water fixes it?

[smoky crater]

2 ways, switch pact, or wait for a fix

[jolly dome]

it does, yes, but just annoying, almost wondering if I remove all points from that if I'd still have the bug or not...

[lone wave]

what pact are you?

[kindred glacier]

i dont know yet ive been swapping around lol but i feel they are all weak right now im trying to use seathorn as my main weapon

@lone wave \

[lone wave]

Magick right.

[kindred glacier]

yeah im currently bromius and before that was siren

[lone wave]

I'm currently crafting Bromius, yet to know what that's like.

@kindred glacier If you want to go magicks, start grinding the Wazzard set.

[visual radish]

Rememeber to explore, currently most of account level(and so stat points) come from destabbing world trees and revelaing location names

[tall lava]

dont use your skills on inclines like stairs, and during loading areas, and when you might be getting kocked back by enemies, thats how i avoid it getting stuck
but otherwise ye, step in water, or die, or switch pact, or relog

[lone wave]

And mastering weapons and pacts (level 30).

[visual radish]

That is the lesser source of account level

Like i said most comes from exploration

[lone wave]

When it comes to finding motes would they all be there all at once for location? Or would there be a few and you would have to come back later for the rest?

[visual radish]

Would have to come later
Pretty sure at most 2 spawn at a time

[visual radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438223413247479960/1485087148305813656/image.png?ex=69ca79ef&is=69c9286f&hm=911ef44871c7c5e077d5159b04cb26d860c2e95234967616401a05952192177d&

[lone wave]

Not only that it is slow, like you have to wait for a phase of the day cycle for it to be updated.

[visual radish]

Didnt feel too bad for me while doing votives and doing laps around the map for agari

Certainly wasnt the best, but not the worst

[jaunty ravine]

hi guys, new to the game, could somebody explain to me 2 things:

1. how do I reveal the map to not be foggy
2. how do I make the names of the objectives not random symbols, but names.

[visual radish]

for the location names scroll up just a bit we were just talking about it

for the map fog you gotta find the world trees and unstab them

[jaunty ravine]

that's all I found - unstabbing world trees, but does that also reveal names?

[tiny loom]

How do I get a ruin or ruin fragments?

However they work

[visual radish]

don't remember anything named ruin

[tiny loom]

Runes*

I’m dumb

https://tenor.com/view/smart-not-smart-man-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-4496013

[visual radish]

oh runes you get from bosses

the bosses are called agari and they kinda are just around at set locations on the map

[tiny loom]

So not from seige or vadgar bosses?

[visual radish]

siege yes vadagar pretty sure no

[tiny loom]

Only kind I’ve killed so far aside from main quests

Thanks

[visual radish]

but the runes from the sieges are a few specific ones

[tiny loom]

I’ve only done the Curial siege so far

[visual radish]

each rune usually comes from a specific place/agari

[opal barn]

Where do I find the avocot vendor ?

[amber anvil]

How many times can you reforge a weapon? (Currently reforged once on a greatsword)
Like how many times can i reforge and keep adding joineries.

[visual radish]

as many as you want, also they replace eachother

they do not stack

[amber anvil]

Ah so only 1 joinery stays on at a time

[visual radish]

yup

[finite stone]

His guaranteed spawns are listed on https://wiki.avakot.org/Avakot:

[opal barn]

Thank you

[red scaffold]

Absolutely love it beyond reason when my character decides that sprinting is more important than casting a spell that would save me

Also, is there something that causes sprint to just not function on every other shift hold?

Does this mean, permenatly, just while you're in there? What's the criteria for this?

Does the attack go up?

[unborn bear]

it goes up with each boss kill but its a bit buggy rn so not worth using.

[red scaffold]

Also, it claims the Cogah drops the Everflame for longswords, but I had this long before I did the cogah?

[red scaffold]

Worth knowing, thanks.

I am assuming the buffs do not work outside of the cogah

[unborn bear]

correct

only the base stats apply when out of cogah but inside its supposed to increase with each boss kill but again its a bit buggy.

[red scaffold]

Even if they did work, it seems...kinda pointless, to an extent.

Well, for now! We can see what the future holds at least.'

[unborn bear]

actually they would be really usefull and powerfull because with each boss kill the levels go up and you will eventually reach the 100s in levels so your attack will keep going up.

but as of right now they are buggy so they aren't usefull but when they work they will help alot in reaching the upper levels of cogah

[red scaffold]

To what end.

You would be killing bosses over and over, with the power of a necklace, that you already got, for killing those bosses.

[unborn bear]

its to see how long you can last before you die really and the loot you get are good too like the high level runes and stuff its really the endgame stuff if your still mid game or near the start it won't make any sense.

[tepid hull]

What are the base virtue blessings given by the different pacts? It doesn't say anything anywhere, but they seem to give more or less virtues when I swap between them.

[red scaffold]

This would be great to know.

Does it even say anywhere?

[sly escarp]

Pacts don't inherently give virtues (anymore), but some of the Pact Perks do

[knotty moon]

Pacts do not give virtues by themselves, but you might have unlocked the Arts that do give them.

[tepid hull]

I've maxed out the perks that give the virtues, but it somehow still seems to change when that's the only change I'm doing

[knotty moon]

Also, might be worth exiting the armory and reentering if you suspect the count is wrong.

[tepid hull]

I'll try that!

[red scaffold]

Using all the perks that max out virtues, then swapping between two different pacts, with the exact same set up on both, results in different virtue levels for some reason at times.

[sly escarp]

There can be a UI bug with virtues after switching pacts, Dexell's suggestion can help specify if it's that

[tepid hull]

Ohh it was a bug with the UI

Thank you! ❤️

[crimson elm]

Hello, i havnt played since prelude 11, i was wondering did they change the way bestitching works ? (the transmog system). I know at preludes 11 it kind of sucked because you had to use the token everytime you wanted to apply a piece of armor, even if you applied it before. did they change it?

[knotty moon]

Yes, fairly soon after they implemented it.
Now once you unlock an appearance you can put it and remove it from all compatible armors.

[crimson elm]

oh that's pretty neat, thank god!

thanks!

[smoky haven]

fellas, got this blocked door in the glades of mist

how do i open it?

[knotty moon]

There are buttons on either side of the door you need to hit, and possibly another on the opposite wall.

[faint badge]

What's y'all thoughts on P14 changes to come ?

[knotty moon]

Time to change from Oscelda. 😛

[smoky haven]

oscelda is so good...

im having trouble finding these buttons