gameplay-discussion

[sly escarp]

Paragon can even get 3 charges

One of each virtue

[teal field]

i noticed it with paragon yeah but not the other ones
that's fun

[sly escarp]

On Starling this means the next full draw btw

Not Hail of Arrows

[teal field]

makes sense

[sly escarp]

But otherwise it's what it says on the tin.

[teal field]

speaking of bows

how does avex compare to our other options

i heard it doesn't have arrow hail and i'm wondering if that makes it worse considering that torrent is a thing

[sly escarp]

Similar damage, longer draw time, no hail of arrows, more punch through on a full draw.

Torrent can proc on just shooting an enemy normally

[teal field]

well yes but doesn't it generate a whole lot more arrows if you proc it with an arrow hail of your own

[wet tulip]

considering torrent its worse

not considering torrent its ok

[teal field]

gotcha

[sly escarp]

TBH Torrent probably should have a cooldown

[glacial lintel]

I don’t like the bow without arrow hail personally

[sly escarp]

Like, 5 seconds between being able to proc

[teal field]

it probably should

[wet tulip]

both torrent and flitsmoke needs a tune down xD

[sly escarp]

Yup

Flitsmoke needs like half its current duration

[teal field]

is flitsmoke the invis one?

is it actually good?

[wet tulip]

anything that can be back stabbed making flitsmoke users into a god

[sly escarp]

Finisher kills extend the rune's duration

So you can just combi finishers with a Grace build to oneshot every enemy in a camp while not being attacked at all.

[wet tulip]

essentially proc smite once and you are a perma invisible envoy that can backstab for ever with the exception theres anything to back stab xD

[graceful oracle]

flint only good for mobs

[teal field]

oh interesting it makes enemies open to finishers regardless of alertness

that's kinda crazy

[wet tulip]

some bosses can be backstabbed too lmao

[sly escarp]

Some bosses can be finished too

Bannerets notably

[wet tulip]

pretty sure wazzard too

maybe some more im missing out

[teal field]

i need to get my hands on it then.. i do love me a shortblade

[sly escarp]

It's kinda of a perma Sirin 3 with no pickpocket but no restrictions on actions you can take

[wet tulip]

grull seeker too

[sly escarp]

Gawth as well

[teal field]

sounds incredibly strong yeah

[wet tulip]

yeah there are plenty bosses are that trivial with flitsmoke

[sly escarp]

And yes, it is FLITsmoke

[wet tulip]

but much more trivial with torrent lmao xD

[proper badge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/69eqBC1GsheBXLUmW8YeqF

[burnt bone]

Just got my 3rd Avex fragment I'm free \o/

[teal field]

congrats
I just got mine a bit ago as well

[burnt bone]

Time to be OP in 20 hours 🫡

[graceful oracle]

meh, I like the other bows better

avex feels clunky

[burnt bone]

I'll see once it's crafted, bows just seem to be the best anyways next grind is the T3 polearm which is gonna be worse I fear.

[graceful oracle]

pretty sure gathannan and garren rood is best combo rn

[burnt bone]

Oh word? Sounds fun then hope I can get enough to craft rood by then 🤣

[chilly brook]

is endless best way to lvl?

[burnt bone]

From what I've done it seems to be, but gl getting the room I've been super unlucky recently.

[chilly brook]

i see, i saw alot of ppl do endless split taxi

[finite stone]

It's the best from a pure xp perspective once you're there, for sure! But other contenders are:

• NE T3 tales - good xp and also enclave standing + drops
• Cogah - good xp and can work it into agari drops if you need them

[chilly brook]

i don't think i can survive very well in cogah yet XD

how long does sap respawn?

[frigid spoke]

decently fast n there's 17 locations of 1-3 each time you pick em. Hard to run out

[sinful scarab]

fenn is under every dermak entrance and exit to make sure you don't runaway with his sword

[vestal crystal]

Gotta deploy fenn whenever he appears

[normal sail]

either fenn is smol or that poppet is dog sized

[vestal crystal]

Large floppet can’t hurt you:
Large floppet hiding ominously under your floors:

[graceful oracle]

Best place to farm Tessard, Witan and Nurash frags is crypt of Circade?

[neon badge]

Can we go back

[sly escarp]

In the graveyards outside the entrances

[cold fossil]

is anyone able to collect and stock up on wevetseeds, feels like mine never goes above 3

[still owl]

so what was the livestream about yesterday?

[sly escarp]

Just the devs playing Cogah

[finite stone]

less news than the previous envoy hours, I think in this one all we got was the 27th March date for the Devstream

[still owl]

i see, thanks!

[sour trellis]

Sorry for the off topic, i just wanted to say that we already have a Brazilian community server if you're interested

(I remember you from Sky:CotL a few years ago, great to see you here)

[halcyon thicket]

Sky 😮

Such a fun game

[spiral depot]

it looks super cute but ive never played it

[teal field]

mine stockpiled just fine

[chilly brook]

for juniper charge hailarrow build, on totem, hail arrow slow or hail arrow reduce armor better?

[teal field]

i just realised
do we even have a single 3 star secondary

we indeed do not

[wet tulip]

both with torrent

[teal field]

hmhmhmhm
well all in due time i suppose

[chilly brook]

no charge rate totem?

[teal field]

slow and armor is better if you're doing hail build

[wet tulip]

i mean you getting charge rate from quick silver joinery

[chilly brook]

oh ok

cause someone said charge rate affect hail arrow

[wet tulip]

slow and the anti armor better then a bit more charge rate

[chilly brook]

ok, cool

[wet tulip]

this is what i use for arrow hail build

[cold fossil]

for what weapon, Bows have a recharge rate totem, The Sly

[chilly brook]

juniper

i use the magic armour totem, the rate better?

[cold fossil]

different slots for charge rate

[teal field]

charge rate is atk yeah

[wet tulip]

both magick and physical are +5 on bows so what ever you want

[chilly brook]

yea, that why i ask if slow + reduce armor better than charge rate

[cold fossil]

slow is on the flyblades?

[chilly brook]

on bow

slow on arrow hail

[wet tulip]

imo yes since you get charge rate from this

[cold fossil]

ya, just looked, i rarely use hail, if i'm geared for headshots

[chilly brook]

i think that what i have, but the polised version

[cold fossil]

and none at all on Avex

[wet tulip]

same effect just a bit less dmg scaling

the main build part is torrent rune. other then that is a bonus

[chilly brook]

ok

[unreal shale]

how do I heal in this game?

[wet tulip]

use potion/ use smite heal passive on any pact/ use pact with healing ability/ on melee gain hp back by dealing dmg

[placid condor]

Also, if you run out of potions fast while learning how to play, corrupted slugs drop health potions like 75% of the time

You can find them in any of the "mucky" areas that look polluted

[unreal shale]

I only have the Sirin pact currently (in the 2nd or so overall story mission)

The Torment Stag

[cold fossil]

ya, it can be rough if you start with one pact, like Tethren, yhou are better off eating the death than using the potions

[wet tulip]

still can get heal on smite perk on sirin and use potions then

[unreal shale]

are potions 'renewable'?

is that even a concept in this game?

[wet tulip]

they get dropped from mobs

[cold fossil]

you have to loot them

[unreal shale]

and they respawn?

[smoky crater]

enemies do respawn yes

as long as you go far enough from the area or reload the area

[wet tulip]

mobs= any enemy you can find

[chilly brook]

on arrow hail, should i just tap or hold for max range?

[cold fossil]

ok, in the starter area you pretty much have to get healing potiosn off of the soldiers, or via pull smites

to heal, i try to never fall below 3, if i'm just roaming i eat the death, you don't lose anything from dying

[ornate quarry]

yeah, I'd love to enter the brazilian community server

[smoky crater]

depends on if the enemies are more spread out or not

[chilly brook]

so it doesn't affect the damage?

[smoky crater]

afaik no

[wet tulip]

yeah dont think so

and while torrent rune active it doesnt matter anyways

[chilly brook]

ok

[smoky crater]

afaik there's no "perfect throw" kind of mechanic or "full charged" mechanic for the rain

other than ofc the size of the area changing

[cold fossil]

for hail, i find that anymore than the first one, its a waste, your better off kiting, and lining up your charged aims

[wet tulip]

you know what torrent rune does right ?

[smoky crater]

i've just not used the rain in forever tbf
not "bow gameplay" to my brain

i use a bow if i wanna go precision mode

[cold fossil]

i use alca's breath,

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ k then. just saying while using torrent you dont need to use anything other then arrow hail ( it makes the game way too easy)

[chilly brook]

i use orengall XD

[cold fossil]

i may try that if I get a torrent to use, when i level Maestro

[chilly brook]

i saw someone use tethren with magic sidearm, andit so fun XD

[wet tulip]

fyi what torrent does ( spawn arrow hail on every arrow you shoot = you use arrow hail and each arrow from that hail spawn another hail)

[cold fossil]

i've been killing two bosses for two days now to get 1 fragment for Skilter, the RNG is awful

[chilly brook]

what the best armor set for orengall pact?

cause i know it need spirit for more wolves

[wet tulip]

you can use orengall with grace for bonus grace and smite chance on third ability

[chilly brook]

so which armor give those? ihear someone said use abearer mask for courage and mockery set for spirit/grace

[wet tulip]

and if you go grace you can use orengall armor set too

[chilly brook]

question, the totem from sidearm + bow only work when u use the specicific weapon? or they stack?

[wet tulip]

depends on what totem effect you mean

[chilly brook]

smite chance

[wet tulip]

that works on the specific weapon it got equipped on

[chilly brook]

oh, ok, whatabout combat art?

[wet tulip]

those work on the weapons they represent

[chilly brook]

oh, so only stuffon bow matter?

[wet tulip]

if you will use only bow yes

[unreal shale]

why will the bow sometimes refuse to shoot?

[smoky crater]

because this is a pre-alpha

[unreal shale]

oh

bugframe has 2 meanings now

[chilly brook]

what pact best with torrent build?

[smoky crater]

haven't used torrent but as far as i know from how it works... i suppose Sirin would work well since it has 2 kinds of cc

for grouping enemies

[wet tulip]

imo orengall xD cuz you use third ability get bonus smite chance and its gg ez

[chilly brook]

i see, i'm lvl orengall atm, and i think only the 3rd skill good with it

[smoky crater]

that too yeah

[ripe sonnet]

bromius might be nice for armor steal and the root on 2

[chilly brook]

on oregnall skill point, just put all on virtues and heal on smite?

[wet tulip]

only 1 point should be enough for the heal

[chilly brook]

yea, i got 1 point on it and all 3 virtues max

what does spirit does ? just more duration and faster cd on skill?

[wet tulip]

• some scaling with second abilities which we cant know for sure since no number data on abilities

[chilly brook]

pre-alpha, am i right XD?

[wet tulip]

but on orengall you know it boosts wolf summon limit

[unreal shale]

what do I have to do with the stags I can rotate?

[wet tulip]

depends on where it is

show the puzzle maybe?

[unreal shale]

the torment stag

[halcyon thicket]

holding Q doesnt show anything on the walls left and right?

[wet tulip]

pretty sure you need to place the stag statues so their faces are in the same direction the wall murals show

[halcyon thicket]

oh look they changed where the statues are

[unreal shale]

ohh thx

[wet tulip]

yea they made it more obvious it seems xD

[halcyon thicket]

yeah a lot of ppl were confused about this part

[chilly brook]

what does this mean?

[wet tulip]

armor scaling

[chilly brook]

oh so it doesn't give the virtues stat? but require the virtues?

[halcyon thicket]

that one only requires courage, but can scale with grace

[wet tulip]

the higher virtue point you got the higher the armor numbers are (each icon shows the scaling effectiveness )

[fair monolith]

Am I also to understand this give more magical for courage?

[halcyon thicket]

but isn't recommended since going full courage gives more armor anyway

[chilly brook]

i see

[halcyon thicket]

this one is for hybrid builds

[wet tulip]

yea can get more magick with that armor piece with courage only

[chilly brook]

soit doesn't help with offend, only def scaling?

[halcyon thicket]

armor only helps with defense scaling

the points u invest determine how much armor u have

[chilly brook]

and the point get is only from prism and pact right?

[wet tulip]

talismans too

[chilly brook]

ok, it not helping much they don't let us see what each point does T.T

[wet tulip]

prisms only change where the virtue points are allocated

[wet tulip]

• the pact passives that give virtue points

lol i just noticed you wrote pact already xD

[unreal shale]

what is the white bar below boss health bars?

[wet tulip]

its stagger meter

fill it and the boss get stunned

[unreal shale]

how am I supposed to defeat the torment stag?

I can get through the lady using 2 potions, but it seems to be immune

I generally have a problem getting far enough away to use my bow

[wet tulip]

try timing your dodge rolls with the stag attacks

[proper badge]

?

okay only friend list invite works lol

[modern badge]

Hi guys where can i find neathcap? I read that it can be found in Neath’uns dungeons but I have two questions: are the neath’uns those dungeon that in the map appear as a door symbol? Because if yes, I tried like 3 different dungeons and never found a neathcap

[wet tulip]

Neath’uns dungeons are the ones with a cave entrance that covered in big roots

[placid condor]

Look for the amber looking growths on the ground. Breaking those can give neathcap I believe

[modern badge]

You mean the dungeons with that symbol?

[wet tulip]

all dungeons got that icon though

you needs ones with Neath’uns name. and while in said dungeon you need to loot the sap looking orbs

[modern badge]

Ok ok thank you

[placid condor]

All dungeons have that symbol so hover over it to see if it is named Neath’uns. Then look for these things inside the dungeon!

[chilly brook]

omg, i was in cogah against the dam bear, it does it mech while im in middle of the weird creature and they killed me T.T

[modern badge]

I just saw your message btw i found a lot of them like 10m ago, thank you!

[placid condor]

I gotchu homie 🫡

[safe pelican]

Do some enclave items sold rotate? I noticed some things missing from the store.

[red lake]

Does the armour reduction from the Totems "Attacks reduce enemy armour by 15" and "Parries remove 27 Armour" stack?

[wet tulip]

nope highest overwrites the lower ones

[red lake]

Oh, i guess it's still worth using both for that big -armour after parries

[wet tulip]

but you can see 1 is easier to apply then the other

[red lake]

Yeah just saw some videos recommending using both

[wary laurel]

sorry, i´m not able to slot in, my weapons skill-points (3 sword + 5 bow) - ive selected the circle (ramification from L2R) but it doesn't become green (filled) 😲

PS: i wanted to relocate them (i hit RESET) and now i cant slot them again

[trim oriole]

Whats going on with Kearnhold? done it like 4 times and its not dropping anything fragment wise

[sweet sapphire]

Has anyone done a comparison between Courage blessed Purity and Grace blessed Paragon. Assuming courage/grace investment is equal which scales higher?

[trim oriole]

Paragon isnt as good as purity ever

sorry i pressed enter too early lol

[sweet sapphire]

Dewelion is the only fragment that drops from Kearn and it’s rare. 4 runs is not enough

[trim oriole]

swear it supposed to drop grinn and unsula aswell

[sweet sapphire]

Thanks. So Purity/courage over Paragon

[sweet sapphire]

It is. I never saw it from them though in over 30 runs

[trim oriole]

i dont need anything from it anyway, just been doing it for infamy incase they dont reset it when they make it do somthing

though they prob will reset it

[trim oriole]

yep

[narrow tiger]

So i have the stag armour in my character inv but when i go to the nightfold and try equipping it aint there

[white igloo]

I wish Hewyl would give me a Dewelion fragment.
I'm at 30-40 fragments for Grinn and that dual wield one he drops. Each.

[lament trench]

hi guys, not sure if im supposed to ask about it here or where, but is there any info wich syndicate im supposed to do T3 bounties to get Seathorn, i mean like one sindicate that has less drops than other two.

[white igloo]

Any of them

Seathorn fragments drop from any T3 mission. It's just luck of the draw for RNG

[lament trench]

i know that

[narrow tiger]

Why cant i equip the stag armour tht i got from defeating stag

[lament trench]

craft it

[narrow tiger]

How

[lament trench]

u got tuvalkane in ur nighthold?

[narrow tiger]

I dnt think i do lol

[lament trench]

-VM-Krzysiu, inv me to ur game, and i can help u get her

[narrow tiger]

Says sent u friend request

[lament trench]

oh sorry wrong nickname

-VM-Krzysiuu

[white igloo]

I wonder if anyone has done a No Armor + Charm build yet

[sleek drift]

This has 2 pressure plates, I assume I need a friend? And has it been implemented yet? Whatever it is?

[frigid spoke]

Yes n yes

[sleek drift]

awesome cheers! I’ll have to try it out!

[smoky crater]

a friend or the orengall pact

orengall pact is... slightly unintentional tho probably

[sleek drift]

🤙 cheers ppl

[scenic solar]

It opens automatically if you have a quest going into that Glade

(Making the double pressure plate pointless)

[sinful scarab]

when was the last time you used orengall to do it?

[regal shadow]

(it's also not a glade)

[smoky crater]

think it was in p13 already...

most likely

[sinful scarab]

wasn’t working for me

[smoky crater]

anyway look at da funny

[ornate quarry]

does this error happen to someone else?

[spare badge]

Can't read that language. Your best bet is probably to hit the button to go to the next step and get the error number, then take a screenshot of that and bug report it.

[halcyon thicket]

U just have to tp back to envoy and step on the second plate

Step on plate as werewalker then to back

[chilly brook]

is account lvl base on weapon and pact amount to max rank?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[smoky crater]

along with a few other things 👀

[chilly brook]

which area best tales to earn exp?

[halcyon thicket]

NE and NE dungeons

[chilly brook]

ok

[chilly brook]

hmm, somehow i able to summon 3 wolves now O.o

[umbral light]

Are you using VPN?

[ornate hound]

It's based on spirit, you can summon a max if 4 currently which how high you can get it (afaik?)

[chilly brook]

i see

[umbral light]

Sometimes the way a VPN routes end up causing sites to think your in another country than the location you have selected as VPN, (happens to me often) despite having VPN location set as America i sometimes get ads in german/french

[spare badge]

Proper way is to weigh down the first plate as envoy, then use werewalker then step on second plate. First plate will remember that envoy stepped on it, and statue will move.

[halcyon thicket]

Not sure if that works anymore

Besides you know how envoy jumps forward now that u cast Werewalker

[spare badge]

It worked after the last hotfix.

[spare badge]

Hasn't kept it from working for me.

[chilly brook]

best place to get sappheline is circade?

[spare badge]

Still working.

[ornate quarry]

no

[wary laurel]

HELP - im loosing it !!! i´ve tried 2 different key binding for the PULL SMITE (i suppose its to "steal soul glowing orb" from enemy before he dies) with the key RIGHT-SHIFT and i also tried the command with the key ENTER and none works... am i suppose to use the PULL SMITE simultaneously with an action (dagger on one hand and PULL on other empty hand) ???

[halcyon thicket]

no, you're supposed to use soul mode + pull smite buttons

for example q and lmb

[wary laurel]

ohh ok !!! "soul mode" is the SONAR effect right ?

[halcyon thicket]

sure

[wary laurel]

thx !!! so i need to allocate 2 keys that are close together on right side of keyboard to make use of my right thumb 👍 (im left handed - my WASD are my arrows)

[halcyon thicket]

wait

you use the mouse with your left hand?

[wary laurel]

yes mouse left - arrows right

[halcyon thicket]

damn, im left handed and that seems kinda odd to me lol

but you can just bind pull smite to lmb

it's the default

[wary laurel]

LMB as in left mouse? thats my attack...

[halcyon thicket]

thing is, you need to use soul mode, and you can't attack in soul mode

[wary laurel]

so i dont need to have a empty hand to do the pull animation of smite? because i use both my hands with the bow most time

[halcyon thicket]

if you wanna "smite" an enemy, you need to go in soul mode and pull

it's best to just go and try it

[wary laurel]

ok will rebind tomorow and try again... 2 months playing without 1 single pull - no wonder im still level 2

[spare badge]

I use controller. KBM is not not good for someone who makes typos like I do.

[halcyon thicket]

Practice makes perfect

[visual radish]

Smite pull is a conditional action and thats why it works

Normally left mouse will be your attack, however when holding spirit visions it becomes smite pull

[mighty rune]

Bear fight is just not fun

[spare badge]

That's a lie.

Sometimes, no matter how much you practice, you'll suck at something.

[halcyon thicket]

And you won't know that until you try

[mighty rune]

That's me!! My Git Gud ran out when I was 3

[spare badge]

Dude. I had to get a doctor's note so I could pass a computer class that was required to graduate HS, because it's physically impossible for me to hit the required WPM at the required accuracy. It's not from a lack of trying. I failed the class once, had to re-take it, was in danger of failing again. And I was spending every available minute working on it. It's just something impossible, due to how my nervous system is. I can move fast, or I can move accurately. I can't do both. I've spent a couple of decades after that trying to get better. It's not working.

[surreal cape]

Hello, i need some kind of guidence about this game, ive played for like 2 weeks since launch and now when im trying to kill any bosses they insta one shot me and i am wondering if i am missing anything

[sly escarp]

You probably aren't meeting your armour requirements

[surreal cape]

so i should just bruteforce any bosses to get better armour?

[sly escarp]

Not necessarily

Some armour, like the Circade set, is tied to puzzles

Many armour sets are tied to Factions as well.

But the issue likely isn't that your armour isn't good enough, imo

It's more likely you aren't meeting your armour's stat requirements

May I ask what armour you're using?

[surreal cape]

circade's set with tethren pact and warrior of mora prism

[sly escarp]

Hm

One sec

Requirement is 14 Courage it looks like

What's your courage stat at currently?

[surreal cape]

its at 15 atm

[sly escarp]

Hm, should be active then

What bosses were you fighting?

Circade set gives no Magick defense so if they do a lot of Magick damage it could be hitting pretty hard.

[surreal cape]

currently the weaver

[sly escarp]

Weaver can hit pretty hard. Not sure overall.

[half talon]

Weaver spam slams and I get wrecked every time…

[north iron]

Is it still possible to get early access to Soulframe? Im really wanting to get amongst the community and help where I can.

[sly escarp]

It certainly is

[surreal cape]

okay ill just try different bosses haha, also do you have any special route that you can do everyday like in warframe?

[sly escarp]

You can buy a founders pack, watch an official Envoy Hour or Devstream live, get lucky during the weekly access sendout, or be given an access code by a friend!

[half talon]

This is the one I use personally. Yellow is above. Green is below (in dungeons). Map is slightly older but still accurate.

[surreal cape]

ooh thank you

[north iron]

When you say founders pack,

[sly escarp]

Those are the 3 Wyld founders packs, yes

[reef depot]

is it just me or is everything easy up till the torment stag quest? getting rocked now

[sly escarp]

If you would prefer to avoid spending money there are other ways, as mentioned.

[north iron]

Im just not sure what the official envoy hour is sorry..

[sly escarp]

Once every couple weeks the devs do a stream on Tuesday

For an hour, just a couple devs playing the game

If you tune in while it's live for 30 min you get access as a twitch drop

[north iron]

Oh ok, thanks @sly escarp , you have been very helpful

[sly escarp]

Glad to be of service!

[fringe tendon]

quick question what is the highest character rank you can get?

[visual radish]

17 iirc

[fringe tendon]

hmm really, ok one last question in a town with three motes, are all the motes there or do they generate randomly one by one?

[visual radish]

However many appear as the black motes on top of the pips when the location name appears on screen

[raven axle]

only 1 to 2 motes can spawn.
also there is an indicator above the location name like this

[fringe tendon]

ok so they don't all spawn then, ok thanks

[final rock]

is faction tale xp based on the lowest lvl, highest lvl, or soemthing else?

[raven axle]

if you want to clear them so bad, you can actually relog and the new motes will spawn on that place
https://wiki.avakot.org/Locations#Revealing_Location_Names_&_Histories

[sly escarp]

Levels of tales and enemies are tied to map regions

The Tale XP is related to the lowest level that tale displays iirc

[final rock]

yeah, but lvl 29-3X tales exist which border tiers

[sly escarp]

Think those use the 29 level xp but unsure.

[whole owl]

they really should want those badly lol

[final rock]

what does MR even do atm?

[whole owl]

scales your prism

makes your virtues skyrocket

[raven axle]

additional virtues

[final rock]

ah so that got carried over into prisms

[whole owl]

MR 15 needs to min-max to get to use three star gear, MR 17 can do anything with a potion

[scenic solar]

Stream

[final rock]

eh from my experience using a max stat prism works best in general

given I've been at MR 16 the entire time using a +3 all talisman

[chilly brook]

where to farm sappheline?

[raven axle]

crypt

[whole owl]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Droptable

[chilly brook]

from pots or the coffin?

[raven axle]

the sarcophagus
https://wiki.avakot.org/Sappheline

[chilly brook]

oh dam, the 3 coffin each run and it have low drop chance too T.T

[final rock]

from my experience popping open rare chests in dungeons works well enough for rare mats

[whole owl]

yup, it's in the wiki

pretty sure nothing changed much on the dropsources for stuff

[final rock]

personally never saw how the crypt was the best, but maybe theres some map gen manipulation I don't know about.

[raven axle]

avakot is your friend, worth every reset.

[chilly brook]

apperancely from siege and dungeon container

[languid escarp]

drops quite often for me in the reg chests in glades / dermark

[chilly brook]

i see

[final rock]

yeah undercity and glades would be my rec

[languid escarp]

usually get a feybalt out of the coffins

[final rock]

rip feybalt

[languid escarp]

indeed

[final rock]

+5 dmg from gildaur after multiple attacks while being notably less common

[chilly brook]

are there anyreason why juniper better than the 3* bow for hail build?

[final rock]

I don't think the Avex can use arrow hail

Haven't gotten around to properly use it, but the M2 was just a melee with the arrow.

[languid escarp]

smite chance would be the factor

[chilly brook]

i see, cause im lvling other bow rn for the mastery

[final rock]

yeah can't M2 with the Avex like you can with the other bows.

[chilly brook]

is it me, or the endless with only lvl1 mobs doesn't give that much exp

[mighty rune]

Made it to bear fight.

And now shelving this nonsense to play something where I actually have a chance

[final rock]

i miss when endless was endless

[gray sand]

is this game ever gonna add rankings or pvp stuff?

[safe jewel]

not for a while most likely, not really the vibe of the game

if they do it will almost certainly be once the game is fully released

[final rock]

do people play Warframe's PVP?

[safe jewel]

ostensibly

[gray sand]

they could just use the same anti-cheat as warframe in this game

[chilly brook]

are there a location where avakot alway spawn?

[gray sand]

yes there are

[chilly brook]

oh, just found it XD also does new armors increase account exp?

[scenic solar]

No. At least not more than like 15-20 people outside of random events like the Snowball fight mode in December

[scenic solar]

Armors don't appear to effect mastery level, as they aren't leveled

[misty estuary]

They dont effect matery level, But Mastery level effects them

[chilly brook]

i see, so only weapon andpact? and im running out of capacity for them T.T

also does anyone have a problem where the char just stuck on moving like a delay?

[scenic solar]

Leveling pacts, leveling weapons, and completing the map

so get all the motes for each flag/area

[misty estuary]

You can sell all weapons wonce you reach them to 30 besides Duhk Halic, They are all farmable
Do NOT sell garren Rood, Orengall or Bromius if you need to sell a pact, AS there is current no free way to obtain them again right now

[scenic solar]

meh, just buy the slots, they aren't expensive

[chilly brook]

dam it,those 3 pact + ethren and oscelda only one i have atm

[scenic solar]

$5 for 150 arcs, 10 arcs per weapon slot, 20 per pact slot

[misty estuary]

you gonna say that to people with no money(?) Seems kinda dumb to say suggest throwing money at your problems when you arent sure if the person can.

[final rock]

it is real bad to push people to spend money on a pre-alpha imo

[chilly brook]

i just don't know if it worth pre-alpha

[scenic solar]

so 1 weapon slot is $0.34 and 1 pact slot is $0.67

[misty estuary]

If you enjoy the game, Then it is worth it

[scenic solar]

I still don't count this as pre-alpha

Duviri was pre-alpha. Soulframe is beta

[final rock]

thats not how game development works

[chilly brook]

do we get to keep all the thing on official launch?

[misty estuary]

Yes

[scenic solar]

They prototyped ideas with Duviri, then moved the prototyped ideas and tweaks based on feedback into SoulFrame proper

[final rock]

thats the goal. considering they added monetization they kind of have to atp.

[misty estuary]

There is no planned wipes. The only time it will happen now is if its litterally the only solution to their issue

[scenic solar]

Also they have historically done refunds for failed projects

There was a founders program for Keystone/Amazing Eternals, their attempt at a team-based hero shooter, but it died in like 10 months

[misty estuary]

Team based hero shooters is an oversaturated genre, So yeah it was bound to fail

[scenic solar]

it was 8 years ago

shortly after Overwatch and Paladins launched

[misty estuary]

Dont forget all the OW/Paladin Clones as well because they were outin quick succession

[scenic solar]

weren't that many back in 2018

[misty estuary]

They started dropping them back to back around 6 months to a year after OW release< they wanted to captialize on OW's Playerbase

[final rock]

I can't, in good faith, recommend someone purchase stuff for a pre-alpha. for a closed version of the game that is still testing and developing its foundation asking people to pay money to utilize the pacts and weapons is a bad move. founders exists for supporting the devs. pushing people to pay for arcs for slots is just shitty.

[scenic solar]

what if Steve says the next patch they just move it to beta?

would you recommend it then?

and you say "closed" but it's so damn easy to get in

they might as well just scrap the keys

[chilly brook]

will soulframe ever beat warframe in long run?

[scenic solar]

doubtful

[misty estuary]

I personally enjoy SF more than WF

But Im also more into Fantasy setting over Scifi

[visual radish]

They are different flavours both gameplay and lore wise

So i say enjoy both

[scenic solar]

My biggest problem with WarFrame atm is the constant retcons and forcing in of nonsense settings and themes with no explanations or connections

Like we just click the start of the 1999 Hex quest, play a character that's not us for about 20-25 minutes, then our WarFrame is suddenly regurgitated by an Infested mouth and I'm just thinking... how?

[viral saddle]

It's kind of like marathon from Bungie,but for me warframe is more fun than Destiny 2

[glacial lintel]

Does the lady in the rose enclave sell anything? Just bonded to level 3 but nothing?

I thought she sells potions, do I need faction lvl 5?

That’s discouraging

[runic dagger]

Is there still a 16k faction cap?

[hallow prawn]

is it normal for this game not to 100% your gpu? my gpu is capping at like 81% usage (my cpu stays under 30%) and im getting 80 fps but it would be nice if it used 100% of the gpu for more frames

[scenic solar]

"View Favors" or whatever the bottom right button is on that menu

might be "Favours"

[glacial lintel]

Thanks so much.. and sell everything 🙂 cheers

I want Ode Tempest

[scenic solar]

Lucked out and got it for free/kept it, since it was one of the original starters

[celest ridge]

i have a couple codes if anyone needs, DM me

[fast umbra]

Not normal afaik. Send your specs and settings

[modest crater]

They will sliggghhtly dial up the random further launch jumps you get sometimes trying to trigger rapid rolling by clicking speed at the right time out of them until we are indoctrinated into a superior habit of momentum idk.

[modest crater]

The web dart 😵‍💫

[modest crater]

Envoy wisp, you need someone that can stand on their feet in a cogah? Oh.. well..

Ember has to hold mora's hand for inferno, but is locked into the ignis wraith primary.
My inaros is an acolyte of the indifference hunting her down on alca to recover with zaw polearms and contracting a quartakk from a lich, wisp takes over being materialised on alca and runs away with it feeding on voltaic archon shard primary damage.

The drifter gets a KIM situationship with your ode outcast envoy xd

[slim cosmos]

hey so how do abilities scale now, did they make it so courage isnt the defacto stat to level for nuking anymore?

[visual radish]

Virtues scale everything that cam be scaled about the ability they are color coded with

[slim cosmos]

understood

Feels like its best for me to dump level up points into stats and no where else then on pacts

Follow up question, are factions the only way to aquire prisms at this time?

[visual radish]

Yup

[abstract kettle]

whats the little fire icon that randomly appeared?

[dusty hatch]

The rune you equipped on your weapon OR if thats not it, maybe you picked up the ghost of the fire dude in an undermark dungeon. But it looks like the fire rune for your weapon

[abstract kettle]

yeah the latter happened, left the dungeon and he took it away ;c

[dusty hatch]

in the olden days this was the mechanic of farming Igne Mora parts, but that sadly got removed so now it's only for some fun in the dungeon

[abstract kettle]

awhh how do i use it tho in the dungeons if i do get it?

[dusty hatch]

If you collect the dude your weapon should turn into a flaming melee sword that wreaks havoc until expiring or dying. if nothing happens when you picked the ghost up then it was bugged maybe. should be super obvious when it's active

[abstract kettle]

oh gotcha

when i got it i got a cutscene, with the fire sword, when it ended it dissapeared tho

[dusty hatch]

That's not how it should work. Thats why you have that indicator on your UI. Wouldnt make sense if nothing happened. Maybe it broke on some patch.

[abstract kettle]

could of just bugged out

[dusty hatch]

Maybe it breaks with the cutscene. I'm not 100% sure you get the cutscene more than once. Might work next time you encounter it. The dude is always shown with a blue dot moving around the dungeon map.

[abstract kettle]

actually could be cause i wasnt using my primary maybe? cause i was trying to level up my other weapon so maybe didnt swap to it;/

[sleek pendant]

what is the best place and way to farm standing? Going 3 star missions?

[vagrant kayak]

Honestly just playing, high level zones will give more standing so T3 in the high level areas will get you the most per mission, but just casually doing them across the map will get you there as well

[slim cosmos]

I like how the color of a smite refreshes your cooldown

[hallow prawn]

RTX 5060ti 16GB
i7 12700
16 GB RAM DDR4

i get 80ish fps on max settings, ram usage is around 10 gbs

[smoky crater]

is your gpu performance from the launcher set to Performance or Power Saving?

if it's at performance then all i can really think of is a ram/cpu bottleneck or something but that shouldn't really be happening either with your specs

[balmy lion]

dose anyone know what the max level is for a weapon or a pact?

[smoky crater]

30 for both

[balmy lion]

know any good way to level weapons and pacts or is it just play the game

[smoky crater]

the way i'd suggest aka multifarming would be by doing 3 star votives in the northeast

[stuck fjord]

arena in glades

[hallow prawn]

nope not at all

[smoky crater]

[hallow prawn]

this is the only graphically intensive game where i dont get 100% usage

[smoky crater]

wack

wait are you using dlss?

[hallow prawn]

nope

[smoky crater]

[hallow prawn]

I still should be getting 100% usage though

[smoky crater]

Technology strikes once again!

[wary laurel]

hi, how do i keep up with the different "Fragments" (and others: part 1 of x) throughout the game ? im following the map over at AVAKOT but is there a checklist in my Journal ?

how to kill this spectral boss - do i need to use this purple glowing weapon (image) ? because i killed it with bow from afar twice and he somehow respawns...

[abstract kettle]

is there a way to farm wevetseeds? apart from the tree in nightfold?

[frigid agate]

Nope

"Every 12 hours, 1-3 Wevetseeds can be harvested from the Wise Elm in the Nightfold"

According to the Wiki

[abstract kettle]

awhh

[mellow python]

You need to use spectral sight and pull smite to destroy their floating spirit after you've downed it

[ripe sonnet]

you can use another part of avakot, buddy.avakot.org to note down your progress. That being said I mostly just tag items for farmed and mastered because keeping track of fragments is a lot of extra work

[wary laurel]

thx guys for your insight 🫂

[wild swan]

ive not played since pledues 8 is it possible to reset my progress so I can start fresh since theres so much more new content now ?

[half quiver]

Someone know when we can play this game ?

Can i play now the game ?

Or not possible?

[sly escarp]

It's currently in a semi closed pre alpha, and you can play it if you get access.

[sly escarp]

Unfortunately there is no way to reset your account yourself.

[regal quarry]

Ok taking bets, what will happen first: I max out all the Pacts I currently have, or I rank up enough to buy one of the Enclave-locked Pacts.

[wary laurel]

i visited the 3 musical-stump but this one (picture) isnt interacting with me and it stands way above my waistline... is this why no JUNIPER bow appears in my inventory --- OR is it because i bought a "Envoy blue pack" character that comes with its own bow already (the starling) ??? ...i already did the envoy´s cabin Stump and the one in middle of a lake.

[brazen sparrow]

To be clear, it's a juniper bow fragment (of which you need 3) and not the juniper bow outright. And no, the pack you've bought has no bearing on whether juniper fragments drop or not.

once you have the 3 fragments, you must still build the bow

[wary laurel]

yes 3 fragments sorry... visited all 3 /from avakot online map) but only got 2 to work with the flute

ohhh ok, i must build it my bad i though i would have the bow in my inventory, LOL my bad noob here

[brazen sparrow]

there is a long-standing bug with these stumps. if you've definitely visited each one and tooted your flute, you will need to contact support because you can only toot your flute at each one once.

[wary laurel]

yes i agree, stumps, animal cages and chests should be accessible from all sides to interact once your close to it (not swirls around until the E key appears)

[brazen sparrow]

it might be too late, but if you go to nightfold the game sort-of saves your game state. so if you stand in nightfold and look at your inventory, do you only have 2 fragments?

[wary laurel]

yes ive got it to forge - thx for alert

[lament cradle]

i have problems with the animal infect pact
i go in the nodes and they dont appers 🙁

[sly escarp]

With the what pact?

Oh, your Pact Arts are missing? Is the pact unleveled and all the spaced greyed out?

[lament cradle]

that mini boss for other patchs

patcs* , deer , bear

[surreal echo]

I'm having this same issue today, did you manage to get your dawn pendant part?

[upbeat cradle]

yo dude what's the issue, i speak spanish

[lament cradle]

in know my english is confuse

no encuentro a los mini jefes que son los anteriores animales infectados, el ciervo y el oso.

use un mapa donde muestra donde aparecen pero no salen de noche :/

[sly escarp]

Hey, sorry, but asking for codes on the discord is not allowed!

[upbeat cradle]

The location isn't fixed like most bosses, the corrupted vadagar spawn in random locations across the whole map

Also, they only spawn at night

[sly escarp]

If you still need game access, #envoy-gathering message has a list of handy ways to get it!

[lament cradle]

i know
i dont know is random
damn
thats difficult little location that mini bosses

[upbeat cradle]

You'll have more luck if you check the missions in the trees, sometimes one will have the "purge the vadagar beast"

[lament cradle]

the mission just appers in night?

[upbeat cradle]

Nah

The mission forces a vadagar spawn, even during the day

[lament cradle]

hmm that sounds better, thanks

[shell sentinel]

Random Question for y'all, Anyone else having problems with Input Lag? (I think that is the term for it?) Like I move my mouse to look around or clicking something to attack/use an ability and it takes a second or two for my Envoy to respond to that.

[smoky crater]

What kinda fps are you at and do you have v-sync on or off? Aaaand are you fullscreen or borderless?

[dark crystal]

I just defeated a deer and got armor and stuff from it but when I want to equip it I don’t got it

[smoky crater]

Gotta craft it first

[dark crystal]

But it says I’ve already got it in my inventory

[smoky crater]

buuuut before that gotta get more fragments for the armor pieces (no need for pact and weapon) to actually be able to craft them in the first place

[smoky crater]

They're "fragments" required to craft the items, not the actual crafted items

[dark crystal]

Okay thx

One last question where do I craft?

[winged garnet]

You have to unlock the smith ancestor. After the Stag quest you should have the faction unlock quest, and then the smith unlock quest is available.

[glacial lintel]

That endless thing really is power leveling

[sinful scarab]

how many +6 virtue talismans are we supposed to have?

[sly escarp]

There's 3, one per virtue

Assuming you mean the ones that give +6 to one virtue

[dark crystal]

Thx just unlocked

[sinful scarab]

yes but I mean how many can we purchase, when i purchased 1 from Kirk it disappeared from the shop, but in alca and rose i managed to purchase 2 of each

[sly escarp]

You should be able to craft one copy of each talisman

At a guess there's an issue with the dupe protection script for shop purchases

[fathom elm]

what if u could combine faction talismans just like the crypt one

for a 3x+6 one

[sly escarp]

Mostly because that would make certain talismans way unbalanced

[winged garnet]

I like the current talisman system, the higher tiers ones have their advantages. +3 to all stats is a very strong and balanced, but some builds need a +4 or +6 to one stat. +6 to all stats makes every other talisman irrelevant. It might change in the future, but I think I would prefer something more like the fable attribute point rewards to make your character more powerful.

[minor marlin]

How long does it take for bosses and operations to respawn?

[halcyon thicket]

Bosses are on a 30 min timer

Sieges and Organs are 3h

[minor marlin]

Thank you!

[shell sentinel]

Fullscreen, 6 fps, and V-sync was set to auto

[smoky crater]

6fps or 60?

[shell sentinel]

6

[smoky crater]

[shell sentinel]

I double checked it

[shell sentinel]

I'm scared what that face is for......

[smoky crater]

I feel like your answer might be that

[shell sentinel]

Probably? Not sure how I could fix..... that

[smoky crater]

What graphics settings are you using?

[languid escarp]

try turning off vsync, makes de games run like crap for me

[brazen sparrow]

I mean it might also help to have a small summary of what your system is.. you know.. CPU.. RAM.. GFX card and these things.

[plush surge]

yo how to get rare Etheldred The Weaver ?

any protips ?

[smoky crater]

Etheldred spawns in the sinkhole in the northwest

[shell sentinel]

TY, it's managable now

[halcyon thicket]

Are u using lossless scaling by any chance

[plush surge]

what this green moon mean ?

6/7

[halcyon thicket]

Spirit

[sly escarp]

6/7 spirit, you need one more point in Spirit to meet the requirement and unlock damage scaling on the weapon.

[plush surge]

how to get one more spirit

[sly escarp]

Could swap your prism to be more spirit focused, equip a talisman that gives more spirit, increase your Envoy Rank nough that the virtue split gives another spirit, take a Spirit upgrade in your pact, there's lots of ways

[plush surge]

my god haha its really a lot

❤️

[final rock]

MR, talismans, pacts, and prisms are permanent ways to buff virtues while songs and potions are temp buffs. If they haven't changed it the 3 pact fables also let you pick a virtue to get a permanent +1 to a stat as well.

[abstract kettle]

does anyone know where i find the crypts?

[visual radish]

Entrances are in the mausoleum looking structures

Also there's only 3 in the map so might wanna check soulmap in the avakot wiki

[smoky crater]

One's near the northern castel, one's next to the southern castle, another's next to fort kearnhold in the middle ish of the map

[verbal crown]

hello! just wondering but i havent been able to see faction missions any longer for over a week is this normal?

[sly escarp]

Faction tales are now gained by going to world trees

[verbal crown]

oh thank you!

[sly escarp]

There should be a note attached to a rope, interacting with it will ive some faction mission options

[abstract kettle]

how do i get more virtue prisms?

[sly escarp]

Talking to faction heads outside of your starting faction will get you 2 more basic prisms, then the Hybrid and Extreme prisms are sold byt the factions directly.

[abstract kettle]

is there a way to get that island for the world tree?

[pulsar tundra]

Collector is every six hours? just making sure

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[dire helm]

Gotta OOB glitch, or have someone who has it already invite you to their session and then spend a wevet seed to take you there.

[abstract kettle]

whats a oob glitch :D?

[final rock]

out of bounds

think they might have patched it, but there was a spot on top of the NE swamp that could clip past the invis wall

[pulsar tundra]

Can Sacred Shimmer only be obtained in the faction vendors?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[proud sedge]

There's also the founders prisms which I believe are even more extreme than the faction ones

[halcyon thicket]

nope

factions have starter, hybrid and extreme, founders sit somewhere between starter and extreme

extreme, starter, founder

oh i guess founder is even better than starter

[lofty gorge]

Hello

[stuck fjord]

If high level but depends

[plush surge]

any recommends for build with jupiter bow ? i mean armor etc

[final rock]

the Orengall set is the best for spirit and Tethren is prob the best pact in general

just build the bow around smite and torrent and everything will die

[celest ridge]

have got some keys if anyone needs, DM me

[hot zenith]

anyone know how can i find the stag boss to get the fragments i couldn't find anything on the wiki (or maybe iam blind idk )

[smoky crater]

Spawns at night in a goop puddle in a few different possible locations around the map

Sometimes also the final stage for votives

[lethal tundra]

@plush surge

Play what you enjoy the most

[sly escarp]

If you have an account you're signed up for of the random Wednesday sendouts automatically

[celest ridge]

i just DM'd you a key

[chilly brook]

what the best magic sidearm? there only 3 right?

[sly escarp]

Odiac, Esthelle, and Basker's Wrest. Odiac and Baskers are about the same (courage/spirit hybrid) and Esthelle is Founders Gear so not yet available generally.

[chilly brook]

i see

cause i saw someone build consecutive magick sidearm and it look fun

[sly escarp]

It can be for sure!

[chilly brook]

what the best magick rune?

[sly escarp]

Personally like Hollowing

Enemy explodes on death

[chilly brook]

i see, there also another one that increase damage on pull right?

[sly escarp]

All runes need a smite pull to activate

The other one marks the enemies and after a short time they get hit by lightning

[chilly brook]

i see

they both from cogah?

[sly escarp]

The lightning one is from normal

Hollowing is from Cogah

[chilly brook]

oh, i need to get both tbh

which one drop the lightning one?

[sly escarp]

Wraith of Wastes drops both

[chilly brook]

oh ok

[sly escarp]

Good hunting, Envoy!

[chilly brook]

aight

[young geyser]

Hello, brand new to the game after stumbling across it. How does one perform a smite pull? (I assume it's when you ignite some color glow within an enemy) I chose to play grace, trickster bowsman.

And how does one trigger the ability to perform a melee animation in a fight without using your butterfly ability or sneaking up behind an unsuspecting enemy, would it be related to a stagger?

I've only recently found out light attacks stick arrows and a heavy fragments the stuck lights randomly lol

Besides not knowing much, the game is beautiful and I love the fey whimsy of tongues dancing in riddles cleansing man and creature alike of gears grease

[sly escarp]

Smite pulls are when an enemy glows a certain colour, you hold Soul Sight and then tap your attack to pull.

The melee animations are called Finishers. You can do while while the enemy is unaware of you, while you are invisible, while the enemy's Stagger bar is full, or when the enemy is knocked down.

[ancient raft]

So I saw a poll someone did regarding favorite weapon types. Is magik really not that popular? I just started playing 10ish hours and have been mage this whole time. Not really struggling in most fights

[sly escarp]

It unfortunately has significant falloff in Cogah

And Spirit is the least survivable virtue, though it comes with some solid Arcanics.

[celest ridge]

i have 5 more codes for whoever needs, just DM me

[jade latch]

Is there a reason I can't equip the armor and weapons that are in my inventory, but dont show up when I go to the weapon menu? - oh it looks like they are fragments? How many fragments does it take to be able to use them? or does it depend on the weapon

[hexed spoke]

Was gonna rely but you found out

[sly escarp]

Have to craft em at the blacksmith

[jade latch]

Does that show up at camp eventually or is it in the world?

[sly escarp]

Fragments are the core of crafting

[sly escarp]

It will be in the camp but you have to do a quest in the world to unlock it

[ancient raft]

That stinks. I really like magic in most games. Well I'm just playing for now for the love of the game.

[fierce helm]

I am STUCK at the Waste Bear fight 😩 legit get barely any hits in idk if I'm just bad but the other fights aren't nearly this difficult.. even the organ was easier.

[hexed spoke]

welp we dont know what we have in store for us when it comes to magic

atm its still barebone but this is a pre-alpha

[ancient raft]

This is fair

It's got a heck of a grind too. Having to level each weapon individually

[hexed spoke]

i hope they work on it, ive always preferred melee but I want a true spellsword if a game can manage it well

[misty estuary]

I can help, invite .DollGenetics

[hexed spoke]

theres this thing called arena/endless by people. its a few waves of enemies that levels you quickly. around 2 runs of a decently leveled instance can max a weapon .

just join one if someone advertises. sooner or later youll max all the weapons and join the squad who only plays during major updates

[misty estuary]

20 waves, And if you get the first wave spawning in at level 38, You can go from 0>28 in 1 run

[hexed spoke]

i feel sad ive maxed all of mine

[misty estuary]

All I got left to max sadly

[ancient raft]

That's good to know. Ill look into that after I finish exploring.

[fallow spire]

damn, I only have like 4 maxed out weapons 😄

[lethal kite]

I’m a “refugee” as one might say from Eldegarde. This game just got on my radar. The graphics and combat looks amazing imo. But I’ve never played warframe and even though I lean towards PvP in games I can appreciate this style but I do tend to enjoy running into other players in a game like this to give that feeling of community. Anyone know if in the future that is a direction this game could take? I definitely want to test it out. Gonna be hopefully getting a founders pack next month unless I can get a key on a live stream or something sooner.

Either way /hi, love the look of this game and can’t wait to try it.

[fierce helm]

I will tomorrow, appreciate this sm

[misty estuary]

Aiai, If im not on in game when you send the invite just @ me here and ill hop on

[eager skiff]

my chat barely ever works, is that a common thing? been that way many patches

[chilly brook]

weird question, have anyone got delay input in game?

[jade latch]

dont think so, just in my brain

[hexed spoke]

man i feel bad for that community

they gave up on it so fast, effing rug pull

[minor marlin]

Are tales still bugged? Where you need to go to your faction to unstuck the progress for standing?

[chilly brook]

Odiac or basker's brest, which better?

[wet tulip]

odiac. ( has a bit better smite chance/ needs 8 spirit for attunement requirement while basker needs 9)

[jade latch]

how do you not die to damage over time with bear...

[wet tulip]

spam F fast enough

or use oscelda healing ability before that state

[jade latch]

I mean there is something in the arena killing me over time that I dont see

[wet tulip]

while in the F circle spam phase you receive dot dmg

so gotta do it fast or you run out of hp

especially if you are a spirit build with low hp pool

[jade latch]

its the phase right after that, there is like an area damage over time.
*figured it out, if you get hit by his ranged attack it poisons you

[limpid pike]

The Hollowing rune anyone know where it drop ?

[celest ridge]

3 more keys if anyone needs, DM me

[dusty hatch]

From the Wraith of Wastes (Wazzard) during Cogah. You find all the drop locations in patchnotes. Just go to the soulframe website and visit the forum section.

[limpid pike]

From corrupted wizard ?

[dusty hatch]

Whatever you want to call it. That's not the official name but you probably mean the same, yeah. The one in the corrupted swamp area that looks like an 8in the south-middle

[limpid pike]

Ok

[iron temple]

Wazzard's hat is hilarious and fun! 😄

[neat night]

it looks like a banana for me

[abstract kettle]

is there a way to always have the compass on?

[devout stag]

right ! i want to play so bad.. i sunk sooo many hours into warframe and now really want to play this

[sturdy nova]

Yes, in your settings, under accessibility iirc

[abstract kettle]

omg thank you sm

[sturdy nova]

#gameplay-discussion message

next Envoy Hour March 24 where you're guaranteed a key by watching for 30 min while stream is live

[ripe sonnet]

Does tempest grapple proc kick totems?

[vagrant kayak]

Please don't ask for codes in the Discord you can check the pinned message in this channel for how to get access to the game, as mentioned there will also be an Envoy Hour stream on the 24th which will have acecss as a Twitch Drop

[flint cove]

Hello

[vagrant kayak]

Hello

[lament burrow]

how do i get invitation soulframe preludes?

[drowsy mountain]

how do i get invitation soulframe preludes?

[vagrant kayak]

You can check the pinned message in this channel

[faint badge]

curious anyone bought gera or weapons with arc ?

[misty estuary]

Theres quite a few who done it, The few who ive seen saying they did only done it for rare things like Dewelion or Gthanan

[sleek pendant]

such a waste ... and I am not talking about the money only ... but we dont have that much to do in the game yet and to take it away by using arcs ... sad 😄

[misty estuary]

The guy who bought dewelion had ran Vella/Hewl/Kearn over 400 times put together and he was still only at 1/3 Frags for dews, Or atleast thats what he claimed

[sleek pendant]

wow thats crazy ... and I felt bad for running glade 40 times without dropping shard for the necklace

[ripe sonnet]

Yea the fact that you need to hit the lucky % multiple times can really hit you hard in the long run

Personally got them 3/90 tries so them sitting at 2-4% seems plausible

[faint badge]

i might have 4 codes from a 2025 email but not sure if it is expired.

[neat citrus]

they don't expire afaik

[faint badge]

if so any takers atm in chat im happy to give them away

[regal quarry]

The grind for those last points to get the Enclave locked Pacts is. Arrrrgh.

[chilly brook]

is the cogah talisman better than tribune talisman?

[halcyon thicket]

They do different things, cogah talisman bonus only works in cogah after you kill agari

[chilly brook]

ooo

[chilly brook]

how do i activate this?

is it only work on weapon with courage?

[exotic gale]

Works on any magick weapon once you level it up to 30

[chilly brook]

oh ok, it put the virtue there make me thought only courage scale weapon XD

[vagrant kayak]

So what that means is because it's "Blessed by Mora" it'll add a pip of Courage scaling to a weapon you use it on

So if for example you used it on Odiac, which scales with 2 Spirit and 2 Courage, it'll instead scaling with 2 Spirit and 3 Courage

[outer berry]

Yep

[chilly brook]

gah, the magick runes won't drop for me T.T

on virtue stat, does courage increase damage?

[smoky crater]

Only for courage abilities

Or weapons that scale with courage

[chilly brook]

oh ok XD

[chilly brook]

what a good attack totem for magick sidearm?

[knotty lava]

the "-x armor on passthrough heavy attack" one is stackable iirc, which the "-x armor on attack" one does not

oh there's also that duck one that just straght up adds primary attack damage

[gray seal]

hello guys! someone have a extra key for the game? thx!

[chilly brook]

i see, cause i dont use heavy attack on sidearm

is the primary attack + better than reduce armor?

[drowsy mountain]

anyone who wants to give a key as a gift? thx

[red lake]

more consistent at the least

[chilly brook]

i see

[spare badge]

Armor strip beaver.

[hasty zealot]

Can we still get the armor set from the crypt of the circade? Or was that event only

[spare badge]

Though, Hallowing is the worse rune.

[spare badge]

It's an eternal event.

[hasty zealot]

Thanks 🫡

[chilly brook]

i try to get the other rune

but it refuse to drop T.T

[spare badge]

I know that pain. But at least you don't need cogah to get that one.

[chilly brook]

yea

but it like no one like to run wraith share XD

btw, i saw youtube vid of dude doing like 2-3k with sidearm

magick, but i can barely do 280 T.T

[spare badge]

You'd have to ask then what their setup is. Could be a combo of artes and stuff.

And hitting headshots.

[chilly brook]

they show all of it tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GrqLIG6PZw

this what i got

[spare badge]

Eh. I use Gilduar and focus on heavy attacks.

[chilly brook]

does it kill faster?

[spare badge]

It kills reliably and restores some health without relying on pacts/smites.

AOE rat in attack slot. Heavy attaks pass through enemies in magic weapons artes. Most enemies don't last too long. Just make sure to actually aim, cause otherwise you'll be attacking boxes and stuff.

[chilly brook]

i see, so can just main staves for aoe and sidearm for bossing?

[spare badge]

You can build however you like. I use the same setup for both.

[chilly brook]

i see, what is gilduar? the rune?

[spare badge]

No

Joinery that's compatible with all weapons. Feybalt is a weapon type joinery.

[chilly brook]

oh ok

[vestal oriole]

so i am in circada crypt and theres is the room with one statue, that can be moved, but how?

[spare badge]

You have to lure a knight ghost there and not kill it. Keep it in front of the statue.

It can be a bit of a pain to do at times, since the ghost wants to kill you.

[knotty lava]

Note that the floaty-shooty ghosts do not count for it, nor does the Circade bossknight.

[vestal oriole]

literally nothign happened

while he was standing on it

[knotty lava]

also note that if the knight is right in front of it, it blocks the statue's progress

[vestal oriole]

the shooty ghost no logner shoot and just stand around doing nothing

bug

[knotty lava]

so you have to keep the knight at a certain distance from the statue

[vestal oriole]

is it worth it

[spare badge]

No.

Sorry. You posted right as I did.

[knotty lava]

it's another loot chance in the Crypt, which means more chances for Polished Feybalt.

[spare badge]

It's just another openable casket.

Unless you're desperate or relly want to 100% that instance, it's just a complicated puzzle for a single casket.

[vestal oriole]

also idk why, but yesterday tier 3 above lvl 20 guildquests gave me liek 12k each and no its down by a tenth

which is weird

[knotty lava]

12000 or 1200

[vestal oriole]

12k

now its only a thenth of it

i literally maxed out the rank 1 from doing 1 mission

[knotty lava]

normally it's around 1.2k

well, congrats

[vestal oriole]

maybe this specific one is bugged?

[spare badge]

Maybe.

12000 is abnormally big.

Yeah. Get screenshots of the rewards.

[vestal oriole]

it brigns one to the glades of andurin

[chilly brook]

what the different between tethren and wild tethren?

[visual radish]

Basically the visuals

And they both contribute to the same arts tree

[spare badge]

Wyld is just a prime version.

[vestal oriole]

i thought its more liek a founder packet exclusive skin

[visual radish]

It says in the faq it wont be exclusive

[vestal oriole]

but wyld founders are?

[chilly brook]

i see

so i can sell the normal version? or still keep?

[frigid spoke]

Keep both

[chilly brook]

ok

[frigid spoke]

Get em both to 30 and enjoy extra points to put into the wyld version

[spare badge]

Nope. No excluseives. Just early access to stuff that anyone will be able to grind for eventually.

For people wondering about the founders stuff, watch the videos. #soulframe-news message

[vestal oriole]

so no foudner exclusives like Excal prime on warframe?

[misty estuary]

Nope

Paragon is Pseudo Exclusive in a way though, THey wil eventually allow paragon founders to put their name on a Paragon and give it to somebody else

[spare badge]

Exactly. DE regrets that Exal Prime and his stuff are exclusive. They want no more FOMO with Soulframe.

[vestal oriole]

i remember hearing that, for legal reasons, they cant make exal prime available for all players, so they isntead gave us umbra

[visual radish]

Umbra is more so because of umbra prime on the old chinese exclusive build

[spare badge]

A situation they want to avoid with SF.

[scenic solar]

Nope. Wyld Pacts are still Pacts, and they give an extra 30 perk points, allowing you to max that associated Pact tree

Part of why there’s now a joke of Wyld Garren Rood

[vestal oriole]

This worldtree 3 star mission gave me 12k standing yesterday

can someone check it ?

i am already max

[visual radish]

It isnt supposed to give that much no

[abstract kettle]

how do i do the attunement thing for my weapons? and what does it rlly do?

[chilly brook]

best way to farm harmonies?

[past ginkgo]

it is normal for seige locations to be outline only. I am pretty sure I had already gotten all the history motes. Try to figure the last of my mastery

[visual radish]

For sieges the symbol being empty means it is available

[past ginkgo]

hmmm, ok

[past ginkgo]

im at a loss, I have all locations, all weapons leveled, and all pacts leveled

[visual radish]

Looks about right to me

[past ginkgo]

Thought it was just a sliver left in 17 if everything was max

[chilly brook]

are there a way to know which weapon i already max and which don't if i sold some?

[halcyon thicket]

Ur missing something, maybe a few locations

Or a weapon u forgot

Not an entire weapon, few levels of it

[chilly brook]

does collects the little smoke thing give mastery?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[chilly brook]

oh wow

[visual radish]

Currently most of mastery comes from the exploration parts such as world trees and location names iirc

[chilly brook]

i see, guess i have to do those smoke thing T.T

also, why wraith's rune so rare...

[past ginkgo]

... I don't see any missing locations

[chilly brook]

what that?

[past ginkgo]

seige

[chilly brook]

oh

[past ginkgo]

found it "( oro's well

[chilly brook]

esthelle or odiac?

[digital turret]

They really just slapped a cage on top of that tent lol.

[visual radish]

"That will surely be out of reach of that gruul"

[scenic solar]

Welp, capped on rep for the day, nothing else to do

[gleaming shell]

What is this and how to kill them?

[scenic solar]

Weapon's too weak, need armor strip (can be semi-bypassed with heavy attacks or smiting and activating runes)

[smoky crater]

More specifically light attack damage on your weapon is too low to get thru the enemys armor

[gleaming shell]

Got it, thanks, I haven't been here for a while and must have missed a lot.

[wild steppe]

if i bought the paragon pack and already own the wyld sirin one is it cheaper or still the same price

[vagrant kayak]

It will be cheaper

[wild steppe]

sweet thanks

[chilly brook]

which of these better for greatsword?

[half talon]

Worth keeping at least 1 of each. Release the spares

[chilly brook]

ok, but which runes/totem is good for greatsword?

[half talon]

Depends on your playstyle. If you do heavier attacks, I suggest the Treefeller one. If you just like to strike, everflame isn't a bad choice

[chilly brook]

i see

when they said primary attack, they meant normal atk?

[wild steppe]

yeah

[chilly brook]

ok

[gray lodge]

is there any update on a official release ?

[sly escarp]

Not so far!

[wary laurel]

sorry, but how do i get RUNES to slot inside my weapons wheel ?

[wild steppe]

click on the middle one

[sinful scarab]

from agari (bosses) and sieges

[smoky crater]

you can get them from sieges and from agari. some agari while Cogah is active will have different runes than in non cogah

[toxic fog]

Can I not stack wevetseed?

[tawny shuttle]

stack?

you can get seeds daily in nightfold

[toxic fog]

Yea

But like stack it

I didn’t realize it reset the seed when I try to grab more

[tawny shuttle]

you should only be getting one to a few seeds a day, any resets/duped seeds could be a bug... but if they work i suppose u can stack it

[wild steppe]

i think thats a glitch try reloading mine did that

[toxic fog]

Nonono I thought u can just have more then that

[chilly brook]

are there suck a thing as bromius build?

[toxic fog]

Like u can just hold more and stuff

[tawny shuttle]

theres builds for lots of pacts and weapons! usually made up from skill tree/virtue distribution

[chilly brook]

i see

i try to do a courage bromius build

but im not sure if it viable XD

maybe combo it with flying blade with the armor reduce totem

[visual radish]

Yeah up to a 100

[toxic fog]

But like I try to grab more and it reset the

[visual radish]

Yes thats what people were telling you it is bugged

[toxic fog]

Ooooooooooooh

I thought it was the other way around

[visual radish]

The intended behaviour is being able to stack them

[toxic fog]

Im a idiot

[visual radish]

I hope we either get that fixed soon or get mounts soon so we dont have to depend on them

[wary laurel]

thx guys... how about teleport is that a thing? im level 3 can i use it? how?

[regal shadow]

if you mean fast travel, yes, there is but you need to complete a specific quest

otherwise, you can ask for taxi in chat

[toxic fog]

Which weapon like specific which one is able to dual wield

Like what is the weapon name called

[normal sail]

short blades have a few that are twin blades, The Royal Tines, Clivers, Rivt-II

[safe pelican]

Is bestitching applied per armor piece or does it stay constant no matter what you wear?

[safe pelican]

and unsula

[sly escarp]

Bestitching unlocks an armour appearance for you to use on any item of that slot, forever

[safe pelican]

Will undoing it refund me the thread or is it lost forever?

[sly escarp]

Once used you can't undo it? Again, it just unlocks that items appearance, for all other items, forever.

[safe pelican]

omg sorry i finally get what you mean

[sly escarp]

Let's say, for example, you have the Bromius helmet, the King helmet, and the Mockery helmet. You're using the Mockery helmet on your Grace build but really like how the King helmet looks. If you bestitch the King helmet, you can make the Mockery helmet look like the King helmet. Later, if you make a Courage build but want to King helmet look over your Bear helmet, you can equip the appearance overtop for free because you previously unlocked it.

[sly escarp]

All good! Hope it helps!

[wary laurel]

**QUEST "slay laughing storm" **--- im at the "target" from Quest, but other than enemies i slayed, there´s nothing to read / activate (not even in the Chest i opened) - i did destroy the Organ tower nearby (2 out of 3 done) - quest mentions Kairness village i visited (which is at bottom of my map = banner) but other than enemies i killed, i didn't find anything related to the quest. i must be blind !

[chilly brook]

what is the best armor atm?

[sly escarp]

Orengall for Grace, King for Courage, and Wazzard for Spirit, typically.

[chilly brook]

i see

this ok to go into cogah with?

are there armor for courage/spirit?

[visual radish]

I'd just explain it using monster hunter's term(because the systems are veeeery similar only difference being the appearance acquisition method)

In monster hunter the cosmetic armor is called layered armor
Because you layer it on top of the functional armor

Which is what we do, we dont make one specific equipment look like another, we just have a different cosmetic layer of armor

[north junco]

Chat, just returned to the game, is feybalt still worth it over gildaur for staffs?

[halcyon thicket]

no

[north junco]

damn 😔

all that farming for naught

[halcyon thicket]

ikr, nerfed to the ground

[misty estuary]

It can change in the future, Dont worry too much

[north junco]

Yeah, it's a bit harsh. Lower max stack and damage seems a bit over the top. 3 max stack without dodging cancelling the stacks would be nice and maybe 15 damage cap, instead of 10.

[north junco]

I'm sure it will, but it's been a bit of an annoying trend for the devs to go way too hard in either direction of buff or nerf for a lot of things.

[halcyon thicket]

yeah

anytime i see ppl asking for nerfs i just start getting worried lol

[north junco]

yerp

Oh well, still one of the best games out there so I'm not exactly gonna complain.

What I would like to see is some more joinery options for staffs, though.

[misty estuary]

Its been my everyday game since the 25th of jan, Except for the 3 day break I took after finishing my wazz farm and ended up walking 31km

[north junco]

zamn good walk

[safe pelican]

How much virtue do I gain per mastery level up?

[misty estuary]

1

[safe pelican]

so at mr17 I get 17 virtue?

[misty estuary]

Yeah

[chilly brook]

forgot, did i ever ask what the best way to farm harmonies?

[finite stone]

I think doing agari runs for runes and releasing them for harmonies, and making sure to charm animals along the way too

[kindred hemlock]

What should i do after beat the bear?

i came from warframe so i kinda lost

(sorry for bad english i speak portuguese)

[normal sail]

bear is the most current fable atm, now you just start collecting gear, weapons, etc

[kindred hemlock]

ooh ok ty

[finite stone]

Well, if you want to check for any remaining Fables, you can check https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables - though you might've completed all of these by now! There aren't too many (story quests take hella development time) and bear is the latest one added to the game, even though you can do them in different orders

If you want more stuff to do you can farm for Weapons, Armour, Accessories, Pacts or Joineries, you can check the lists of those via their wiki pages. Tons of those to be farmed and ranked up

You could rank up all your https://wiki.avakot.org/Enclaves too if you like, or collect all the https://wiki.avakot.org/Enchantments and try getting them to max rank

[umbral jay]

To piggyback off the question above, beyond the bear there's no "Main quest" ?

[normal sail]

other than rolling dice for runes/ totems and maxing enclaves im caught up on everything else

[drowsy mountain]

Does anyone have 1 Friend Codes to give?sry ,and thx.

[finite stone]

That's right, unless you have yet to do Shewolf (they can be completed in either order)

[umbral jay]

I did deer, bear, and wolf, so it's just a grind-for-all now?

[finite stone]

Check the others in this link #gameplay-discussion message but yeah as long as you caught witch withdrawn / the 3 miniquests then probably onto the equipment, enclaves and enchantments!

[umbral jay]

There will be more / a real story added once them game is out-out though right?

[finite stone]

Yup, there's 2 more omen beast fables in the works (Omen Ram and Omen Toad), and the Warsongs we currently have is just a short prologue version of it which will be expanded upon.

Beyond that there's no official reveals, but I think it's clear they're setting up a storyline involving rescuing Alora from the Ode, and fighting Synod, etc

[umbral jay]

And the map, will there be more than one or will the one that we have expand / evolve? (And PLEASE for the love of god tell me we get mounts)

[normal sail]

mounts are planned (not guaranteed) for end of this year

and yeah map will be bigger since this is the tutorial island

[umbral jay]

Baller, that's all I needed to know, thanks!

[barren scroll]

Please ensure there are not too many embed images when linking your wiki page inside of chats.

[jade latch]

how do you finish a siege? the fort is empt but it wont allow me to interact with the balloon nvm you have to light the torch