gameplay-discussion

[knotty moon]

Wiki corrected, thanks.

[nimble patrol]

anyone know where i can farm quicksilver joinery?

[wet tulip]

but my personal opinion. its faster to just farm faction rep and buy it from enclave shop because its guaranteed instead of rng ( if you are rank 5 in said enclave of course)

[hexed spoke]

just play normally and hop on the t3 sharers

youlll eventaully get what you need and just buy what you dont get from the enclave

[teal field]

archstorm from my first try on the wazzard on this new acc lol

[sinful scarab]

few hours late, but if you want to get into the castle just use werewalker ability in this corner and then /unstuck

[scenic solar]

Does it have motes?

[sinful scarab]

nope

[nimble patrol]

i went to the glade dungeon at the top north part of map where enemies are lvl 30+ and farmed chest for 20 mins and got 2 blessed quicksilvers and 3 polished

[azure bear]

in make room for new growth, in the area of the subquest are there literally just the exact number of plants needed to complete the quest

everything is grass I cant see anything

[smoky crater]

yyyes

[azure bear]

is there any way to help with finding the quenching acid I genuinely can't see anything

[knotty moon]

Keep Spectral Sight active, pickups should glow.

[azure bear]

oh my God there were 2 in bloody bushes

[knotty moon]

At least now they glow...

[wet tulip]

thats some good rng im not that lucky with joineries

[carmine cypress]

Good day, I would like to ask about suggestions. I didn't play Warframe that's why not all clear with leveling. For now I have level 5, if I understand correctly where to check 😉 I already understand that I need to level up weapons, pacts etc. But my question is about the level of enemies... For me, if I try to kill someone higher than 24-25 damage looks go really down... How to understand/calculate what level is now best for farming?

[scenic solar]

Steve has a weird obsession with forcing players into using armor strip builds

While I’m leveling stuff I’ve found myself mostly stuck using the throwing attack to get through the fights timely

[halcyon thicket]

Enemy level is region based so try to find a level that suits your skill level

[wet tulip]

yup we are the stage as warframe was with use corrosion to win xD

[scenic solar]

Mandatory full groups of Corrosive Projection aura slots to remove Grineer armor

[carmine cypress]

This is clear for me, just interrupted how things work here. One more question, what is the weakest boss here?

[halcyon thicket]

Maybe banneret gawth

Northwest

[safe canopy]

does reforging weapon and leveling it up again stack or I only can do that once?

[wet tulip]

MR exp gets registered only once per weapon if that is what you meant

[safe canopy]

meant buffing weapons with the potions or whatever its called

[wet tulip]

that too only 1 blessed joinery can be active at a time. ( but there is a bug where if you join someone's host and that host got a blessed joinery too , your weapons get buffed a second time)

[safe canopy]

okay thanks, im not interested in bugs

[open swan]

any invite codes

[smoky crater]

Watch the stream on the 10th for a code via twitch drops

[low sedge]

is the code guaranteed for everyone who watches it?

[smoky crater]

If you watch it for 30min thru twitch, and have your twitch account linked to your soulframe account via soulframes website, and as long as you actually claim it from your twitch inventory

Yes.

[low sedge]

thank u

[smoky crater]

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1478453578367635547

[low sedge]

got it thanks

[dire helm]

Hey Chair Shrimp! How ya doin' buuuuudy?

[primal verge]

duplicate Totems and Runes
I see a reason to keep up to three of each Totem (might want a build where I've got one in each category, can't put two of the same in the category my Rune expanded)
is there any reason to keep duplicate Runes?

and there is no random Stat variance in Totems and Runes, right? they're always X + Y/rank

[digital turret]

It only makes sense if we'll be able to trade them later or if the devs change the rune system somehow. But since there's no info on that yet, I personally don't see any reason to keep them for now.

[primal verge]

ok ok

ty

[next iron]

how can l get a key to play the game

[digital turret]

9476-661D-FB0D-E3EF

[next iron]

ty broo

[amber bolt]

weird lighting from spirit vision but I got all three objectives in the same room, lul

[karmic path]

Hello, could you tell me how to play? I understand that I need to receive an invitation by mail. How long do I have to wait for it?

[digital turret]

Maybe a month, maybe a year, or maybe more than a year.

[copper bluff]

Soo i’ve been running back and forth in cogah mode for bosses. It very tedious. Is there any trick to travel faster?

[digital turret]

Just ask the mobs to launch you into the sky. It’s a pretty fast way to travel.

[copper bluff]

I never stick the landing so thats out of the options

[azure bear]

I almost beat vadagar bear, it 1 shots me, runs away and now the quest is broken

nice

[copper bluff]

That’s so… convenient😅

[digital turret]

Enjoy it before the devs fix it.

[finite stone]

Hi! You don't need to wait for the email, everyone gets free permanent access this coming Tuesday. Just tune into this for 30min: https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1478453578367635547

[karmic path]

danke

[primal verge]

I'm confused by the stars and numbers of Votives. I'm looking at 1-star with 13-16, a 2-star with 29-36 and a 3-star with 17-32. I expected stars to be Tier and numbers to be Enemy levels , but Tier 2 having higher Enemy levels than Tier 3 doesn't add up

(also which gives the most standing?)

[knotty moon]

Level 0-10
    1 Star: 150
    2 Star: 350
    3 Star: 500
Level 10-20
    1 Star: 300
    2 Star: 550
    3 Star: 850
Level 20-30
    1 Star: 400
    2 Star: 750
    3 Star: 1150
Level 30-40
    1 Star: 500
    2 Star: 950
    3 Star: 1450
Level 40-50 (not available yet)
    1 Star: ???        (from 400)
    2 Star: ???        (from 750)
    3 Star: 1700

Dungeons tales give x2 rep.

[knotty moon]

Stars indicate length of the tale, with T3 also having the possibility of ending in a dungeon.
Level indicates the bracket it falls under, and the enemies you will have to face.

[wet tulip]

hopefully T4+ gonna be cogah with agari bosses as final xD

[pliant geyser]

What is the fastest way to get a key?

[knotty moon]

Elaborate, what key?

[wet tulip]

if you meant preludes entry key. click here and watch that stream for at least 30 min with a linked twitch account

[pliant geyser]

i meant preludes yeah, thank you

[wet tulip]

do note make sure your soulframe account on the website is linked with the twitch account you are gonna watch from

[azure bear]

wish avakot sold petrified ichor I have 0 n need 8

[wet tulip]

you can do that in the website by logging in and going to account management

[west wharf]

Is there a way to get more pact- weapon and loadout capacity without paying ?

[wet tulip]

rn nope

[small epoch]

Hello all ! So much question, just arriving so : is there a playable version ? How can I get in ? Any idea of release ? 😮‍💨🤘🏻

[wet tulip]

if you see messages history scroll up a bit

somebody just asked

[small epoch]

Great !

[small epoch]

Is it a steam code or ? I just downloaded the game and start playing without adding anything is it normal ?

[novel stump]

Without a code, you can't play the game proper pretty much

[small epoch]

Cant i ?

[broken hamlet]

where do you find the thunderstone to put in the animal cage

[upbeat cradle]

pick up a mission to destroy an ode bisulcam, get a thunderstone, destroy the ode bisulcam without the thunderstone and voila

the thunderstone doesnt stay in your inventory so it dissapears when you log off and on again

[broken hamlet]

ive gotten extras from the boss at the one fort but they never work on anything else

[small epoch]

So it means it’s a steam code or?? I don’t understand

[novel stump]

It's an access code that you'd put into the soulframe website, so similar to a steam code but it's not one, I guess

[small epoch]

Ok so that’s ma first question haha I didn’t put any code but I’m playing is it normal ?

[dusty hatch]

if you registered early on you already got an invite. Your account got unlocked for play and you just didn't notice it previously.

[small epoch]

Ooooook

That makes sense

Thanks a lot pal !!

[strange fossil]

Got 30 on my sirin and switched to tethren out wanted to share how cool I feel like I look lol. I'm still playing it a rogue like playstyle just out of habit but the fellust fireworks are pretty cool lol

[ionic flower]

why the hech i get only 2 in the Avakot

i cant play that mini game cuz it gives all day 2 jumps

[half talon]

Someone else said that before. I'm wondering if it the same avakot. Try others to see if it still does that

[smoky crater]

Someone else said they were only getting ones and fours iirc

[wet tulip]

lmao health potion very strong

why arent we using it as weapons

[smoky crater]

too strong

[wet tulip]

lolz sludged ode

[keen siren]

Once you've gotten an invite is it possible to get codes for your friends? I'm waiting on one but I'd also like to see if my friends can play with me

[subtle plinth]

🐦

[dusty hatch]

35 y/o, 6 ft, 215 lb, East African Grad-School Educated Male CEO, Landlord, Bodybuilder, Model & Actors can easily buy codes in form of Founders packages.

From the soulframe website. Comes with codes for friends

[strange fossil]

🤭 idk why I find this funny but I do

[keen siren]

Oh it's just a copypasta, I'm broke as hell 😅

[finite stone]

Yep! Everyone gets free permanent access this coming Tuesday. Just tune into this for 30min: https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1478453578367635547

Your friends will get their access by watching, and you can even get a spare key to hold onto for someone else

[keen siren]

Sweet thank you!

[wet tulip]

that moment if you know you know

6/7 clear sinecure camp xD

and you need to go lure a corrupt avakot to complete it

[safe pelican]

Isn't the cap 50?

[finite stone]

It is in DE's patchnotes, but maybe it's buggy like the wevetseeds were the past few weeks

[wet tulip]

the real question is does it go above 51 xD

tamed a new buddy

i guess the cogah line still appears when you loot a agari mushroom not in cogah mode

[sly escarp]

Huh, that's odd

Never had that happen personally

[wet tulip]

guess its another easter egg line from our fey queen that happens randomly xD

[cursive idol]

@keen siren do you want a code I have a few extra

[keen siren]

It would be much appreciated!

[cursive idol]

May i dm?

[keen siren]

Ofc ofc

My DMs should be on unless discord for some reason blocks it

[heady oak]

Hello, very good morning, by pure chance someone will not have a code to be able to play

[knotty moon]

I think that line is specifically for non-Cogah, I don't believe I ever got it in Cogah.

-# Or to be fair, I don't get it at all recently.

[safe pelican]

Are there softcaps to virtues?

[knotty moon]

There is a limited amount of them, dictated by the max ER, Talismans, and Arts.

There are also 2 points that comes from quests.

[wet tulip]

pretty sure its random when you loot the agari mushroom cogah or not

i usually had it in cogah

[copper bluff]

The points from quest, can you replay them 3 times and get them added?

Or is it just switching the virtue point if I choose another answer?

[knotty moon]

If you replay the quests (Shewolf Snared, and Waste Bear) you can reassign the points.
They don't get added on top.

[copper bluff]

Been itching to know that, thanks

[halcyon thicket]

You can gain more in coop

[scenic solar]

Yay, getting closer and closer to being caught up on item acquisition

[carmine cypress]

Good evening, what us a source of Seathorn? by wiki https://wiki.avakot.org/Seathorn no mob and chest drop 🙁

[smoky crater]

drops from 3 star faction tales/votives

[frigid spoke]

It's literally right there

[carmine cypress]

ah, i miss understend that, thanx

[umbral oyster]

Good afternoon all or whatever time it is there.

Wow this game is soooo involved.

[smoky crater]

👀

[umbral oyster]

Am wondering why the world tree #1 is almost all the way to the bottom south of the map?

I think I found World Trees #4 and #5

[snow junco]

I was just gonna ask if there was a Soulframe wiki, lol.

[finite stone]

Well there's 16 of them, spread all across Midrath! (Including one on a separate islet to the northwest)

[smoky crater]

they're not placed in any specific order really

[strange fossil]

Lol no unstuck will fix this stuck 🤣

Weaver died right after she wrapped me

Check out my new armour lol I call it eldriths bodice

[past sandal]

so apparently the baliq (shrimps) can sit on chairs. I don't have a picture because I didn't have any idea what I was looking at

[dire helm]

Yep, and sometimes when they go to stand up, their AI glitches out and they'll forget how to shoot at you.

I've had this happen most often in the glades, probably just due to higher numbers of shrimp spawns

Anyway, the community loves Chair Shrimp and we all hope he'll become our pet someday.

[past sandal]

I wait in eager anticipation

[dire helm]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1479280250495041718

Still not a pet, but I got some screenies.

He does follow you around a bit. Probably trying to attack or something and failing.

[toxic fog]

How u get the wolf armor again?

[turbid ridge]

That happened to me during cogah. Felt like my eyes were on fire.

[calm crown]

Question: if I sell the base Tethren pact to the camel, do I lose those 30 pact points on Wyld Tethren?

[pallid vine]

How can i get the wolf armor guys

[smoky crater]

you keep the points even if you sell it

[smoky crater]

alca's children faction tales or glades gold chests

[calm crown]

Fantastic. so no reason to keep the base pacts if you've leveled them all the way and have the Wyld versions?

[smoky crater]

not really no other than vanity stuff i guess

[spare badge]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440214171789688964 I do hope they keep him in the game in some capacity. He can be SF's version of Clem.

[toxic fog]

What the pact capacity do anyways

[smoky crater]

you have limited inventory slots for pacts and weapons so it increases those

[toxic fog]

Ooooo

[fallow arch]

so dos avex still fire arrows the wrong way around?

[dire helm]

Nah they fixed it

[plucky bison]

anyone have a extra code? 🥹

[spare badge]

Did they fix the weirdness with the bow strings?

[dire helm]

Not last I checked. I can check again in a minute

[fallow arch]

also also, does it use the charge rate increases from totems etc?

[spare badge]

#gameplay-discussion message

[fallow arch]

that bow was like 5 dfferent kinds of jank lol

[dire helm]

It looks a little better? maybe?

It still bends below the hand, but it looks like the hand almost covers that spot. I don't have a second person to get a better angle on it, so it's hard to tell.

Better lighting. Nope, doesn't look like they changed it.

[spare badge]

No. They're still drawing the bow wrong. You only pull on one of them, not all 3.

[dire helm]

Oh right, that. I was thinking you just mean the point in the center of the strings being below the hand.

They'd have to rework the model a fair bit to make it pull just one string I think.

[somber yew]

Are the electric traps instadeath or is it possible to tank the damage?

[spare badge]

How a compound bow is properly drawn.

[spare badge]

Electric traps are those fences that enemies come into to attack you. If you mean landmines, those are instadeath.

[fallow arch]

ye

[somber yew]

The landmines, ty. I think that needs to be changed.

[spare badge]

You need ot be careful where you walk. They glow with soul mode and can be blown up with weapons.

Ranged attack them.

[fallow arch]

and dont be in blast range

[somber yew]

I have destroyed them bows and magic did not work. The other issue is I went to kill enemy in a village dropped down from the above and landed on one died instantly. Did not see it at all even in soul mode becuase I was a higher elevation. They really should not be instadeath.

[spare badge]

Stick that up in #1438224662344761345

[somber yew]

Ty

[spare badge]

The landmines are a relic from before magic weapons existed. I'm a bit surprised that they're still even in the game.

Way back before factions, there were "Sparrow Tales" that were randomly spawned around the map (and the map was just the starter area). The "slay the bannerete at (location name)" one would always spawn landmines. The "slay the bannerette and their party" one didn't, because those bannerettes were mobile, wanding around the map.

[somber yew]

Yeah only seem them in those tales and if feel like having high enough health/armour should help with them. Magic attack tracking did not destroy them and bow is better but it took six shots one time and another one shot. 🤷‍♂️

[spare badge]

I'm not sure magic wealons even do damage them. Try heavy attack with magic and see what happens. Like I said, we didn't have magc weapons back in the day. We aslo didn't have flyblades or shortblades.

Bows or thrown melee is how we delt with them. And having a big circle on the map showing us where to go, we learned quick what places would have landmines.

I guess just be careful if you're walking towards a named place and there's a bird icon on the map pointing there?

[somber yew]

Might just avoid those tales for now, find one-shot mechanics annoying.

[spare badge]

1-shot mechanics are a relic from back when videogames were fueled by quarters.

[sinful scarab]

now that i think about it, i’ve only seen these landmines at that one village in the west i think near rose enclave, once i stopped running tales there i stopped seeing them

weird

[somber yew]

I can't say for certain of other areas but that was where it was.

[sinful scarab]

and its always there in the same exact place with its scary sound

and i still die from it

[somber yew]

Did not even see it soul mode but I think that was because I was higher up. Dropped down to kill the enemy that as there then boom death.

[dire helm]

I was confused what landmines you guys were talking about until you mentioned that village near silent rose. Salzbrim I think.
Those things were annoying, and yeah, I haven't seen any since I started doing things away from that area.

[strange fossil]

Does anyone know a good source for a map with all mighty locations?

[languid escarp]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

map on here, you can toggle what is visible, icon down bottom right

[strange fossil]

Ty

[languid escarp]

yw

[tulip crater]

Hello, I’m trying to farm the Steelsinger set..I remember getting some pieces from a mission in one of the quest trees, but I can’t remember the mission name or its rank. The pieces drop from Ode’n Bisulcam, but I don’t remember which quest it was or which quest tree it came from. I’m also not sure if every quest tree has that mission.,,

[half talon]

You can find bisulcams regularly in the NW part of the map, just north of the Enclave locations. There regularly spawns one just outside of Comber's Leve

[tulip crater]

Thank you very much 😄

[hearty kite]

Hello! new to server and to Soulframe, but not to Warframe (many years and hours there). Have a question about Reforging, specifically Joineries - the Parry stability costs for the higher grades, that penalty is applied to the enemy, not to me? is that how it works?

[hollow valley]

how do you get assece to the game

[storm dust]

Honestly not sure about that but its not noticeable too so just dont mind that

The lifesteal is workinh tho

[storm dust]

Watch dtreams and hope for code in the rewards thingy

[hearty kite]

OK, will do, thanks.

[storm dust]

Also, try using avakot wiki, they’re pretty complete

Im sure you get why wiki works since you’re a wf player too

[hearty kite]

I see it now, thanks.

Have been using it so far mostly for quests and such - only now am I first getting into crafting, which presents a whole new set of questions.

[glacial lintel]

This game is amazing

[hexed spoke]

its amaze balls too bad im out of things to do

[sleek drift]

it actually is 10/10 im loving it, does anyone know if we can get mounts or Pets? im only an hour or so into it atm

[half talon]

Eventually mounts. Not sure on pets. It’s been mentioned but not confirmed. Mounts coming later this year.

[sleek drift]

Awesome, thanks!

[wintry cairn]

Do you think we'd ever get gauntlets and boots as separate armour pieces?

[knotty moon]

Doubt it, but anything possible.

If you feel strongly about it you can make a suggestion here: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[turbid blaze]

how do blessed joineries work now,
do they just change an anttunement pip from a weapon or all or just one and change the requirements too? im confused

[knotty moon]

They add a pip of attunement, they do not interact with the existing ones or modify the requirements as far as I know.

[turbid blaze]

so its just like a forma but increases damage

[hexed spoke]

they just add one pip and add the other bonuses on it

[knotty moon]

With the exception that you don't have to do it multiple times.

[hexed spoke]

they reset the weapon back to 1 though

[knotty moon]

And to be honest, you don't have to do it at all as in quite a few cases Polished is more than enough to make a viable build.

[turbid blaze]

yea because in my eyes they would have changed the pips (all) to another and change the attunement to the same one

but now i know thank you

[gusty sky]

they used to change the whole scaling, but with p13 the only change is one added pip.

[carmine cypress]

Hi everyone! I’ve been looking into the most efficient ways to increase my Envoy Level. I noticed that getting a weapon to level 10 is incredibly fast, but the XP required seems to scale up significantly after that.
Since every weapon level contributes to the overall Envoy Level, would it be a good idea to "horizontally" level multiple weapons to 10 and then swap them out for new ones? This seems like the fastest way to boost account rank early on. Has anyone tested the XP-per-hour for this strategy compared to fully maxing out a single weapon?

[gusty sky]

It's better to max a weapon and be done with it, VS having a whole bunch of level 10 weapons taking up your inventory space, (Since you only get EXP for the weapon once, releveling it doesn't do anything). If we had unlimited inventory space, maybe getting a bunch to 10 would be worth it, but space costs $.

[turbid blaze]

that sounds so fun
you could make any weapon work on any build
sad to see it gone

[carmine cypress]

Thank you

[safe pelican]

"Attacks reduce enemy Armour by 13" does this effect stack with multiple hits?

[knotty moon]

Nope, only the strongest effect is applied, but you can combine it with "Bypass Armor" effects.
-# At least as far as I know, someone mentioned the last effect is applied.

[deep rune]

morning everyone, not sure if this is some new discovery or me and my friend just didn't know about it but me and Azazil seemingly found a way to quickly turn low level arenas into high level ones. Also not sure whether all these steps are required or just some, as we have done some testing but not enough. Here they are:

1. once you have your copy, invite your friend to the party
2. he will now leave your party/world, go to his Nightfold and invite you into his copy while he is in Nightfold
3. you will now start his arena while he is in Nightfold and monsters should start at lv 34+ instead of level 4

we have tested this about 10 times and it worked each time, hope it helps some of you too!

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[deep rune]

hold your horses for now good sir, we just tried it again now with a new set of players and it did not work 😄

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
Try getting the logs when it does work and send them to DE.

At the very least it should narrow down on the original bug of the level resetting in the first place.

[dusty hatch]

Not sure if you got an answer. It's NOT a penalty, it's your parrying filling your stagger bar up slower, which is a good thing. The entire mechanic is badly implemented at the moment though, so this is nothing you would notice a lot in the game anyways.

[mossy beacon]

Guys, I have a question. I can only ahve one facction active at a time?

[dusty hatch]

Yes, but you can freely swap anytime without penalty

[mossy beacon]

But do I have to pay for the item everytime I want to swap?

[halcyon thicket]

no

[mossy beacon]

oh, thanks

[scenic solar]

A little more grinding then I can move to the next faction

[amber quail]

Where do I report an infinite chest exploit?

[normal sail]

#1438224825113120788 would be the place

[amber quail]

Since it's related to exploiting chests & getting tons of free stuff I would rather not public post it x.x

[smoky crater]

If you really think it's that bad, support ticket.

[amber quail]

1 blue flower chest per 30 seconds tops

[smoky crater]

Oh...

[amber quail]

Yah.

[smoky crater]

Wouldnt say that's that crazy of a thing

[digital turret]

Everyone has known this for a long time.

[smoky crater]

Can't say i do

Tho i also dont need resources for a the foreseeable future so

[digital turret]

There was also an old bug where one person would leave the squad and the other would invite them back, which caused the chest to reset. Right now, you can just leave the dungeon and go back in to refresh the chests. These are all legacy bugs.

[halcyon thicket]

@amber quail https://support.soulframe.com/hc/en-us make a ticket

[digital turret]

I wrote about chests back in April 2025.

[limber bone]

okay

[carmine cypress]

Hey everyone! What are the available healing methods in the game? So far I've only found the mass heal on '2' with the starting mage pact and health potions. Is there anything else - passives, other pacts, or recovery mechanics?

[normal sail]

Garren Roods pact 1 ability is a lifesteal

[limber bone]

there is heal on smite pact skill point ability, lifesteal on hit melee weapons, and other pact abilities have healing too

[smoky crater]

all in all: life elixir, pact upgrade: Sympathy; heals you on pull smite, Polished/Blessed Gildaur joinery: has 4% lifesteal, for melee combat: Health Regain: you get hit, the part you took damage on your healthbar turns white-ish, and your following attacks can heal you a bit per hit

[limber bone]

you can also buff heall on smite with totems

[digital turret]

Try dying — it restores full HP

[normal sail]

even going back to the nightfold while out of combat will heal you partially

[sinful scarab]

talking to verminia or changing equipment will heal you fully

[carmine cypress]

Thanks a lot for such a big amount of useful advice.

[amber quail]

what does wd40 mean in the context of soulframe lol

[halcyon thicket]

where'd u see that

[amber quail]

All the time in recruiting

but when I ask in game they just say it's lube LMAO

[halcyon thicket]

prob a couple of ppl just trolling

[amber quail]

I mean I see it all the time

[safe pelican]

Whats generally considered the best long blade?

dewelion or marrow's bane?

[molten jasper]

They both are diff attunements. Depends on the build. But pure tankiness. The courage build, marrow.

I use the dewlion tho

[dire helm]

Dewelion right now but only because it's bugged to not have a cap on the damage it can get from virtue. If this cap gets fixed, it should top out at 169 damage at rank 30 and +25 from a joinery. Meanwhile, marrow's bane with the same bonuses tops out at 172.
That's not a huge difference, however, and you might still get more oomph out of dewelion if you like to throw headshots or get backstabs.

Bugged dewelion:

Nothing like smacking things around with 205 damage with a fast hitting longblade. lol

[main creek]

Whis there an estimate or time frame for when the next prelude is

[smoky crater]

Month or 2 from now probably

No official info

[empty steeple]

hello, im play and im stuck in bug

[normal sail]

/unstuck in chat

[empty steeple]

Thanks bro

[safe pelican]

I absolutely do not like throwing long blades. I only use throws on poleblades, short blades and sns. Stealth gameplay doesn't feel good at the current state of the game. I don't like the way virtues work at the moment, feels very restrictive. Dewelion is great but the lower defenses in simply running it (because I'm stacking grace instead of courage) kinda hurts sometimes. I'm interested in what you said about the damage cap, what exactly defines what the damage cap will be? Lets say a weapon has attunement in 2 virtues, can the damage cap be reached by simply stacking 1 of the said virtues?

[dire helm]

"lower defenses"?

[dire helm]

The base formula for total weapon damage looks approximately like this: BaseDamage+VirtueBonus+LevelBonus+JoineryBonus
For a weapon with a joinery at rank 30, the base damage, level bonus, and joinery bonus are all static, so we'll mostly ignore those. Level bonus is +24 for all weapons at rank 30, and for the sake of these weapons, the joinery bonus is +25. Bows and magic weapons can have different joinery numbers, but that's a separate discussion.
The Base Damage for a weapon is just the overall attack number minus the number in parenthesis. So in my screenshot above, it shows 205 damage and +157 in parenthesis. From this we can get that the dewelion has 205-157==48 base damage.

The meat and potatoes of the whole equation is the Virtue Bonus. As the name implies, it's a bonus defined by your virtue. This bonus has a cap -- a maximum amount of damage you can get before adding more virtue no longer helps the weapon.
For common weapons, (1 star on the name plate) the cap is simply the same as the Base Damage of the weapon. For uncommon and rare weapons (2 and 3 stars) the cap is 1.5*BaseDamage. (there are exceptions to both caps due to bugs, but those are exceptions)
The number of attunement pips on the weapon decide how much damage you get per point of virtue. Each pip is worth 0.5damage/virtue, so if you see 4 mora suns, for instance, then you know you're getting 2 points of damage for every 1 point in courage. (note that grace gets a little extra attunement for some reason, so there's also exceptions to this math)

So to answer your questions:

• the cap is determined by a combination of the rarity of the weapon and the base damage.
• you absolutely can and will hit the cap by investing in just one virtue, and will usually have an easier time doing so on most weapons. (especially on grace weapons.)

[slender saddle]

Any way I can see my total weapon max capacity allowed? I bought about 10 extra slots and now it says "buy more slots" again...?

[halcyon thicket]

The camel, last tab

[slender saddle]

Says 0

But for loadout also says 0, yet its there

What was the default slots capacity for weap? Started prior to prel 11

[digital turret]

Could you show me your build?

[calm crown]

It's a shame that you have to fully forge each armor set before you can use it for bestitching

[smoky crater]

Pre p11 start? 22 weapon slots 7 pact slots

[slender saddle]

Ty. That means I lost 2 slots, probably glitch. Not as bad as I thought tho

[dire helm]

This one is: Orengall armor set, Maxed out Tethren, +6 grace talisman, Dewelion and Skilter. If you're curious about the defenses specifically, I have +10Phys and +10 stagger on the flyblade totems, and +15phys on the sword totem.
Max grace prism, with +1 grace and +1 spirit from fables.

I'm also envoy rank 18 atm, so I have an extra point in the pool giving me just a tiny bit more defense in this configuration than is otherwise possible.

[thin grail]

Does anyone else lose the ability to attack or cast any spells sometimes after casting the bear arm's first ability? (The jump up and down one)

The only way I found how to fix it is to return to camp and leave

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[safe pelican]

By lower defences I meant that unlike courage I don't get more HP. Also, what the hell is that

[maiden kite]

Does anyone know the solution for this light puzzle, undercity, on top of a super high ascent of bridges, both ends of the mirror seem to just point at flowers

[dire helm]

Grace builds have ~1/2 the HP of equivalent courage builds, and spirit builds have ~1/2 that of equivalent grace builds or 1/4th that of courage builds.
You do get HP on grace, it's just not as much.

[broken hamlet]

@maiden kiteyou have to move a mirror to make it point somewhere else

[dire helm]

With Armor being flat & subtractive in nature, you're probably better off with more armor over health in a lot of cases.

[maiden kite]

Those are the only two places I found it pointing to, or are there mirrors you can move into place so a rotating mirror would then point at the newly moved mirror instead of nothing?

[smoky crater]

there are some mirrors that can move instead of rotating

[safe pelican]

In what cases does it differ?

[dire helm]

Higher damage attacks, basically.
You just take the attacks damage and subtract armor value, and all attacks do a minimum of 1 damage.
If the higher armor build takes a given amount of damage and reduces it to 1 damage, then it wins over having 2x hp, and breaks even if the damage would have been 2 damage but got reduced to 1.
The only time armor looses, then, is if the attack is high damage enough that it can't be reduced that heavily.

But at that point it might still win 'cause it's probably still taking a larger chunk out of the final damage than having 2x health would have helped you.

[safe pelican]

I see, thank you very much. I assume armor attunement works the same way weapon attunement you mentioned before correct?

[dire helm]

Yes but the multiplier is much smaller per attunement pip.
I think it's like 1/9 armor per virtue or something per pip. Can't remember the exact numbers on that one.

[safe pelican]

If both uncommon and rare weapon's damage cap is generally 1.5*base damage doesn't that make uncommon and rare weapons similar in damage output? Or is it that rare weapons generally have higher base values?

[dire helm]

Rares typically have higher base values, yes.

The Erstroot and the Seathorn, for instance, are good examples of this with the seathorn having 4 more base damage, which becomes +6 in the virtue bonus and lands the seathorn a total of 10 damage ahead of the erstroot.

Erstroot: 40[base] +60[virtue] +24[level] +25[joinery] == 149
Seathorn: 44[base] +66[virtue] +24[level] +25[joinery] == 159

[safe pelican]

You really helped me out with the understanding of this I appreciate it

What's gathannan's drop rate?

[dire helm]

FAR too low

guesstimates put it at ~2%

possibly lower than that though

[safe pelican]

So around the same as dewelion i assume

[dire helm]

Yeah, I see people saying they had to do approximately the same farm for dewelion

it's a bit different because one set of bosses for the dewelion are on a cooldown, and you can roll stag fables at a tree theoretically as fast as you can restart the game, though that's also RNG, so realistically it varies.

Apparently I got the dewelion back when it was a more common drop at kernhold

so I haven't farmed that one myself recently

[safe pelican]

Yeah I have never gotten a single fragment from kearnhold. I got all mine from hewyl and vella only

[dire helm]

It's a shame Gath is so hard to get. It's currently the highest damage weapon courage can get.

It even outpaces the Purity.

[safe pelican]

I noticed gath has only 1 more base damage over purity

[safe pelican]

How did you get such high armor value?

[smoky crater]

Surprise decoy!
Get bent idiot

[dire helm]

+10phys & +10stagger from flyblade secondary totems
+15phys from longblade primary totem

One of my fable points is in spirit, so if I were to get that reallocated to grace again, I could have it even higher.

Thankfully there doesn't appear to be any caps on armor, so if I pop a grace potion I can also ratchet this up to even sillier numbers. lol

[oblique crow]

Is there any specific locations for Ode'n Bisculam spawn?
I've been trying to find one for 3 hours

[half talon]

NW, just outside of Comber's Leve there's one that always spawns

[oblique crow]

ty ty

[safe pelican]

Why is nurash so damn hard to get

[prisma blaze]

I was trying to farm dewlion and fought dude 15 times and not one part droppped so e things are just difficult to get

[safe pelican]

try hewyl and vella

[prisma blaze]

Yeah I was fighting hewyl

[safe pelican]

Are there any plans to make available wyld pact weapons (such as the ivor, the starling etc.) on release?

I don't quite understand what these do

[sly escarp]

Add stagger to the relevant shot types

[wet tulip]

avakot is a spy

[amber quail]

So pretty new to the discord but I was curious. Once upon a time warframe had raids. They were too hard and complex for a fast pace game where no one was learning before doing. I am curious if there has been any mention of DE introducing raids again with Soulframe?

[safe pelican]

How do I differetiate the types? Idk which arrow has what wood

[sly escarp]

There isn't a wood.

[broken hamlet]

@safe pelicanits a passive ability any bow you use will apply that ability

[sly escarp]

It's just charged shots and the splinter damage

[smoky crater]

The sieges are kinda their first attempt at something alike but no info on like... actual raids like that

[broken hamlet]

anyone got a double xp token i can have

[unreal shale]

how did the raids work?

[wet tulip]

long missions with 6 players

[sly escarp]

8 players wasn't it?

[unreal shale]

similar to archon hunts, or just one large one?

[wet tulip]

ah yeah i think you are correct it was 8

could be not remembering it correctly cuz it was long ago xDD

[errant mirage]

there's 3 wolves

[sly escarp]

You can hit 4 at high spirit

[errant mirage]

also this keeps happening

[sly escarp]

Envoy Space Program

[errant mirage]

so it's intended?

[sly escarp]

Seems that way

[smoky crater]

sounds weird to me tbf since Scott did say that they found 3-4 to be too much especially when in a party which is why they initially stuck to 2 max

[halcyon thicket]

Says alot doesn't it

[halcyon thicket]

Were u able to land inside

[crystal garden]

does choice of puppy mean anything at this moment?

[wet tulip]

doggo itself nope

[dark mantle]

is the game out?

[wet tulip]

closed pre alpha for now ( but its fairly easy to get a key)

[dark mantle]

when will it officially come out? like 1-2 years or

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ your guess is as good as mine

[dark mantle]

i see, thanks

[young lodge]

Something I do wonder about, is this: what do yall think the pace of content needed to sustain a 1.0 launched SF would be? A Midrath-equivalent addition to the world every year? It's a much different beast than what we've seen from them before

[fringe tendon]

I have a question about the bow guy boss, lets say I kill his 2 dogs in regular mode then switch to cogah, will the dogs reappear?

[young lodge]

Hmm. Never thought of that. I'd guess so?

[amber quail]

I mean, it's DE. They can just dump like 50 weapons into the game, keep us all busy for a while and no one will bat an eye

[fringe tendon]

because if I go to cogah I only want to concentrate on the boss so I thought if maybe that would work??

[amber quail]

There's also the real chance that it will just roll seamlessly into release without us even knowing if there wasn't an announcement

and they just live dev from here out

[young lodge]

Yeah but Idk if the folks who play SF that aren't familiar with WF (which I think will be a more significant part of the playerbase than people think) will put up with that.

[amber quail]

They will, because anyone not into WF is here because of a friend into WF and we are all shoving SF down our friends throats.

Don't even xD

[young lodge]

I'd expect that Development on larger scale stuff would have likely started up now (hopefully) with their first money made off of the founder packs

[amber quail]

"Listen bro until you're 300+ deep on WF weapons, shut up"

is my go to

Here's the thing I keep telling my non-WF friends. DE is not lazy, DE is not Coffee Stain or Blizzard. DE is one of the, if not the last great actual studio around

We won't be waiting 6 months for crappy content drops like in Dragon Wilds or Valheim

Whatever we end up with, especially in the current state of gaming, we will be happy with

[young lodge]

I mean, I certainly will, I'm just trying to think about what this thing will need to be if it wants to attract at-large successful levels of returning players

[halcyon thicket]

Steve has said the game will have hundreds of weapons

[amber quail]

No doubt it will

and probably 25+ pacts in a relative blink of an eye

[errant mirage]

No, I hit the skybox and died instantly. I discovered the opposite of fall damage.... "ascend damage"

[halcyon thicket]

Lol, fall damage ❌ ceiling damage ✅

[amber quail]

Congrats, you are now a meme heading to the dark corners of reddit

[errant mirage]

Lmao

[young lodge]

Well we know they can churn out weapons and frames/pacts quite well, Im' more interested/concerned about their ability to actually expand the world in a timely manner. What will that look like?

They have mentioned they have vague plans of going to other parts of Alca, but how long will that take? That's what has me wondering

[amber quail]

I'm not. They have consistently delivered amazing story & quests in WF, a world by comparison far more restrictive to productive/efficient story telling. By stepping out of sci-fi and into Fantasy with the same core inspiration to a point will be liberating

and I imagine far easier to produce meaningful content

I think Duviri was a big sign of that

I mean I have cried like 6/7 times in my entire life, 3 of which were playing freaking Warframe LMAO

[young lodge]

Im talking about literally introducing and creating new geometry. New maps and areas. With how much more dense and intricate the world is expected to be here, I do wonder what the pace of production will be

[amber quail]

That's quality storytelling

[young lodge]

I really like what the are alluding to with the story going forward absolutely. More exploration of specific peoples in this world, more deep dives into the Ode. I like the fables we have a lot, but I really hopw it doesn't just stick to "save the magic animal" over and over again. That can only go so far unless they do something more with it.

[spring marsh]

Does anyone know if you get infamy from doing the Organ? I think you get 50 per, I was at 8001, I did two Organs, then I did a Kearnhold and I got +96 bringing me to 8197.

[amber quail]

I run an marketing agency & dev studio as a day job. I can tell you when we work with a client with a large, healthy industry, full of ideas and material it's a lot easier to pump out content for them vs niche clients who work in spaces no one does. I imagine it's very much the same. Scifi they kinda blaze the way, things take longer because for a lot of WF, they are first. From concept to implementation. With traditional fantasy there is so much more already out there, far easier to reinvent that wheel. Just my 2 cents on that matter

I think it's also easier to find 'talent' for fantasy than it is for scifi

writers, artist, designers, coders, etc.

[young lodge]

I have absolutely zero doubt or worry about creative ability behind this, only thoughts about what kind of horsepower it'll take to sustain something like this at a larger scale.

With the WF piggybank and their first money made off of Founder packs, my fingers are crossed

[amber quail]

If your only concern is financial, then rest well lol

They need money they can drop a BOGO again

I bet they made more than CoD with that last BOGO

[young lodge]

I've always been dumbfounded and impressed with how tight of a ship they seem to run. Even after getting bought out by Tencent, they haven't shown an ounce of regression in their standards for monetization. While everything else in the industry gets worse, they remain strong. I guess it's easy to stick to your guns when you're killing it, but still. It's something else man

[halcyon thicket]

They maintain full creative freedom

Or whatever it's called

[amber quail]

Yeah, they negotiated well lol

[young lodge]

Well yeah, but even then most studios that get bought out to any degree lose autonomy of how their business is run to some extent. When you're such a success and just need to expand, you kind of hold the cards I guess.

[errant mirage]

Soulframe's UI seems made for mobile

[amber quail]

While I am sure there's mobile in mind, Mobile first design is becoming more and more standard, as it has in Web design & other areas

[young lodge]

Ehhhhh... That's more of a side effect of them trying to make UI and interfaces simple and non-obtrusive imo

I think, if that's somehow to ever to come to fruition, then the game will take the same path that WF did: PC, console, whatever gimmick console Nintendo it doing, then phones.

They've done a remarkable job of crunching WF into lesser and lesser hardware without compromising the main offering on PC at all. I think they'll stick to that for sure

SF is fundamentally more demanding due to it's graphical fidelity and Always-rendered open world though. It might be a tough cookie to crack for super low end hardware

[smoky crater]

soulframe already runs on a potato

[amber quail]

I just found a HUGE problem. The games chat will automatically delete a message containing "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" which I assume is being viewed as spam, but according to the dictionary, is a real word. 😛

[sinful scarab]

my mount is acting weird and biting me, is this a bug?

[turbid ridge]

Closest we'll get to a mount right now

[halcyon thicket]

He needs a stern talking to

[haughty bronze]

Peak

Is your friends character becoming invisible a common bug?

[smoky crater]

oh... damn.
found a clip of me discovering the Ode could do the selfkabooms

a small amount of time ago...measily 1 year 9 months

[azure ridge]

Question from a new player! I just challenged Garren and was given the new armor and weapon but I don't know how to equped it. It doesn't show up in my chest but I have it in my inventory

[smoky crater]

you'll have to craft it first

and to craft the armor pieces you'll need to get more fragments from the from the "Vadagar Stag" boss that spawns in the openworld during night randomly in specific areas

the royal tines and the pact you don't need more fragments for tho

[visual radish]

You werent given new armor you were given parts of the crafting specs for the armor
And the full crafting spec(one fragment) for the pact

[azure ridge]

Ooooo! okay thank you so much~

[fringe tendon]

question, when stuff is cooking and it says 1 hour, is that game 1 hour or real time 1 hour?

[limber bone]

real time one hour

[timid urchin]

As janky as it is, I love that they do that.

[pulsar tundra]

Kinda wish they kept that health bar style.

[fringe tendon]

ok just making sure, because when I left it said two hours, watched a 1 hour program came back still 2 hours

[smoky crater]

[timid urchin]

You started the process yes?

[visual radish]

probably 3 hours which as soon as it starts goes down to 2H and Xminutes

[stuck fjord]

What are your post process effects dude my game looks worse and it's maxxed

[smoky crater]

i will point you towards the message i sent right after said clip.

[ivory arch]

is there a cap to how much faction xp I can get per day? ive done two and faction exp is 0

[smoky crater]

16k is the daily cap

[ivory arch]

gotcha thank you!

[smoky crater]

but you can also turn in the tokens (baskbulbs, sinner's stratagems, sineculums) for additional rep past the daily rep cap iirc

[ivory arch]

gotcha

dumb question.... using my favors takes away the xp accumulated for that level correct?

[smoky crater]

correct

[ivory arch]

understood, thank you

[smoky crater]

faction rankups and the favor shop use the same currency

[strange fossil]

So this might be one of those does proc sets proc sets type questions buuut. Has anyone tested to see if the arrow hail proc from torrent benefits from fellust?

I was kinda curious if skills that boosted damage applied to the additional damage from runes in general now to think of it lol

[timid urchin]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fellust

[strange fossil]

It says every successful weapon strike but the arrow hail is proced off pull smite so I didn't know if it'd count as a normal arrow hail would. I'll just check it out later 🙃

It probably will anyway

[hidden falcon]

Does Soulframe still have packs, or were they completely removed from the game? I’m a brand-new player trying to understand what I’m supposed to do at the beginning. Everything I find keeps talking about the new Prism system. Is that something that’s important for a new player, or not? That’s all I really need to know.

[visual radish]

Cant say i remember the term soulbind

[hidden falcon]

sorry Autocorrect.

[covert ether]

I'm not familiar with the packs, though generally the new stuff to do is collecting Memory Motes around different locations, doing the different Fables for your Ancestors/Omen Beasts, and then using them to create things and level them up.

[stuck fjord]

I assume it has been forgotten

I shall tweak more then, thanks

[hidden falcon]

I had a question about how Pacts work now with the new Prism system in Soulframe. Do Pacts still have a meaningful impact on your character beyond your initial choice, or has most of that been shifted over to Prisms now?
I’m trying to understand whether Pacts still matter for things like progression, build identity, Magicks, or other long-term mechanics, or if they mostly just affect your starting setup and then Prisms take over from there. I’m still pretty new, so I’m mainly trying to figure out how important Pacts really are in the current version of the game.

I want to make sure I understand this correctly. Founder’s Pack items do not seem to be cosmetic-only, since they include actual gear and other gameplay items. But if armor effectiveness and bonuses are now tied to Virtue requirements through the Prism system, then doesn’t that mean Founder armor can still be locked out of its full value unless your build matches it? That’s where my frustration comes from. I’m not expecting Founder gear to bypass progression, but it does feel bad if you pay for gear and still cannot properly benefit from it without meeting a separate stat setup.

[visual radish]

There are nodes in the pact arts tree that increase virtues by up to 6 points
Otherwise you can use the one you prefer

Also virtues now scale all relevant aspects of the ability they are color coded with

[visual radish]

also founders stuff doesnt have attunement reqs, tho of course you still need the relevant virtue to scale the bonus

[glacial lintel]

Anyone play in bed or couch on tv? Lol

[dapper rain]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Preludes_13 release information and patch notes
i like using this page format because it makes all the notes in a prelude word searchable

max Mastery or envoy level is ~17 having that as a goal covers everything.
what your supposed to do it up to you and the goals and things you want to achieve.

avakot.org map and wiki and other tools

[smoky crater]

point was the clip is almost 2 years old

[neon badge]

as of right now the paragon sword is the only super exclusive item

[pure horizon]

whats a good rule of thumb for applying blesseds to get the most out of them?

[vagrant kayak]

Depends on what you want out of the weapon, generally you won't want to add a scaling it doesn't already have, adding 1 Spirit pip to a 4 Courage weapon isn't a good use of a Blessed

Aside from that tho, what do you want? Do you want your 3 Grace 2 Spirit weapon to be more Grace focussed because you headshot a lot? Then you'd make it 4 Grace and 2 Spirit. Are you instead planning to use it mainly for a Grace/Spirit hybrid build? Then you'd even out the scaling at 3 Grace/3 Spirit

[swift schooner]

Yeesh, did anyone else find farming for Nurash wildly difficult? It's the last weapon I need to get ;-;

[wintry cairn]

If you use sirin to loot the mockeries before they activate. You'll double your drop rate.

[swift schooner]

I have been, still no luck 🥲 Thanks though

[scenic solar]

what stat should i prioritize my Garren Rood perks into?

(since we can't just 100% it until Wyld Garren Rood is out)

[swift schooner]

Is it just Alca's children quests that give Seathorn fragments or any faction?

[tropic nacelle]

it drops from the witch boss too

[swift schooner]

Wazzard of the wastes?

[tropic nacelle]

forgot the name of the boss the one above sidae's stake

[swift schooner]

I thought it dropped Erstroot but I'll check it out 🙂

[tropic nacelle]

yeah u r right. i am wrong

[regal shadow]

(you can't do that with wylds either) this is wrong

[finite stone]

Any enclave, yep! The drops are listed on https://wiki.avakot.org/Seathorn:

[swift schooner]

Omg i just realised I was misreading the wikipages - awesome thank you 🙂

[scenic solar]

You can now

with the most recent change to the virtue perks, a full tree is 60 points, and we get 60 per full wyld pact

[regal shadow]

Oh rly? Sweeeeet

[wild ferry]

quick questions there away to change the cross hair from just the dot or is that it at the moment ?

[safe pelican]

Will wevetseeds from different days stack?

[wintry cairn]

Imo Courage and spirit hybrid build is quite good especially with great sword + treefell rune or sword and shield with durglint rune with healheart ability to extend rune duration.

[bronze token]

Gildaur Joinery (lifesteal) and Healheart = endless cycle/rune duration

[spare kernel]

good morning! did anyone have the problem that after finishing a quest there somehow is no new Quest available? I just did the Thing where you find this secret fey wild thing and get off to read a message at the stone but then suddently I did not get a new quest. Do I have to go somewhere?

[dusty kettle]

What did the letter say?

[spare kernel]

Something about follow the Rats, but I saw no rats and my bird did not want to fly somewhere else

[dusty kettle]

Did you not see them even with your soul mode?

[spare kernel]

nope. I now kept runing around and I reached some hole in the Ground and now suddently the quest is there and my bird works again. I guess it was just a minor bug then

[smoky crater]

follow the rats? were you next to a very large tree by chance? 👀

[spare kernel]

yes

[smoky crater]

game wanted you to go down in the hole that went under said tree

[spare kernel]

I literally saw no hole XD there was like a Stone shrine and a tree next to it. then I walked around a bit randomly found a wall followed the wall found another white rat and there was a hole then and suddently the quest popped up XD

but this is like still a main story quest?

[smoky crater]

all the quest stuff you can find is "main story" really

there's not really anything other than that, except it's all character introduction and world building still

[smoky crater]

[wet tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[dusty kettle]

People who never met Avakot:

[graceful patrol]

am i the only one wanting, more above ground 3 star Votives and/or Longer votives? Like, I would like to see a timed one where you have to free as many captured animals as possible with a bunch marked on the map. or a long chain of freeing caged animals, getting intel and then fighting a Nimrod followed by a Veda.

[smoky crater]

oh i've met avakot... more times than you wanna know

[faint badge]

For the sake of thinning the grind is there any gear,weapons or pact worth buying?

[dawn arrow]

Each person has a different experience of which items took them longest to get but more often you see people complaining about not finding Gathannan,Dewellion, Marrow.
As for pacts, they all can be bought at enclaves, and if you like the game and planning to play it often, you eventually will level all enclaves to the max.

[faint badge]

I understand the grind is slow pace but it does feel my mind level oscelda with the starter staff is not progressing well, anything I might be doing wrong?

[dawn arrow]

What do you mean here, like you are not leveling up fast with your starter weapon? Or not finding weapons/armors?

[dawn arrow]

Also, in terms of "worth buying", Wyld versions of Tethren,Sirin, and Oscleda packs are worth buying as they also come with Arcs,Weapons,Armors and are not available yet in the game to find

[graceful patrol]

There is a very real chance, I had no problems getting up there what is your go to opening combo?

[faint badge]

Erm sling staff, bestone the mobs sling staff, use the phantome flock,rinse and repeat ?

[carmine geode]

What's a good way to level weapons/pacts? I don't seem to have the luck to reliably get endless rooms and i've only ever seen one.

[graceful patrol]

that's the right way, are you getting the virture boost from your armor?

[dire helm]

Leveling is horrendously slow outside of the 'infinite' rooms in the glades, and I think you need at least one other person involved to even get the most out of those.

New folks do progress painfully slow across their first few weapons & pacts for that reason.

Lower level enemies, and lower tier tales also don't contribute as much exp.

Something you can do early on to raise your overall power levels, however, is simply run around and collect motes and unlock trees. This contributes a majority of the envoy rank in the game right now, which in turn gives you a significant virtue bump.

It's counter-intuitive, but unlocking the map doesn't require much if any combat if you're good at avoiding camps, but will make you significantly more powerful. A good amount of that exp also falls on your equipped pact and weapon when you unlock things on the map, so you'll see improvements there as well.

Something else you can theoretically do fairly early is the circade tomb puzzle(s). There's a suit of armor and, more generally useful, a +3/3/3 talisman you can get. Granted the armor isn't as useful for mages.

[twin bane]

I’ve just started playing this past weekend and am pretty lost beyond unlocking the trees, and faction quests. I believe I’ve done the majority of the story

Pretty much just running around killing stuff and probably wasting time switching classes.

[faint badge]

i think so , jsut the starter armor atm.

[dire helm]

Once you're done with the story, the rest is faction/rank farm. Check the wiki for details and make sure you're really caught up on the story though. Some of the fables can be elusive.

[twin bane]

Thank you! I’ll look into it.

[graceful patrol]

Check your build and make sure all the Attunement have color, my friend change his attunement for extra HP and it turned off all his armor.

[dire helm]

Mostly, you're probably going to spend a lot of time running faction tales and turning in those faction items for rep to the three factions. They have later game pacts in their shops, and make sure to get the +6 faction talismans. Also there are world bosses that have late game weapons and runes. Once you've got a handle on that, you can do some cogah runs (it's a potion you drink, then fight bosses in hard mode for better loot) to get the remaining runes for your weapons. There's also a few good weapons and a mage armor set on the big black smokestack things called Organs that were added recently. Feel free to run those whenever you feel up to it.

[twin bane]

Well now I know there’s stuff I’m missing, because I only know about one faction.

[dire helm]

Oh yeah, there's 3. You'll need the Sacred Shimmer from your current faction to make the talisman for each of the other two.

[twin bane]

Excellent! Something to work on

[dire helm]

So make sure to get at least two more of those. You've probably already picked up the fragments for those talismans.
You'll also need 3 more sacred shimmer for some talismans that drop from cogah, but those are more optional and don't gatekeep anything like the +1 faction talismans do.

[cerulean elk]

I'd like to know if I'm still gaining XP by playing, because I don't think so...
I haven't bought any Founder's Packs.
I have the base game (Twitch key).
I have all weapons at level 30, all pacts maxed out, and I've discovered all the locations...

I just reached the very beginning of level 17 and I'm less than 2 mm from the full progress bar. Is that normal?

I'd like to know whether to continue playing or not.

I used a translator.

[vagrant kayak]

That is normal

[cerulean elk]

Is it the same at your place?

[vagrant kayak]

No but I have all the Founder weapons and Pacts levelled and also have some extra XP from the deprecated Fey Pact, so I'm just at level 18

But the full Founder items + that Fey XP is likely the difference

[cerulean elk]

So I can no longer gain XP by playing, is that right?

[faint badge]

attunement ?

[vagrant kayak]

You gain overall account level by levelling up weapons and Pacts, if you've levelled all the weapons and Pacts to max then you're at the current limit for account level yes.

[cerulean elk]

Okay, and what is fairy XP?

[gusty sky]

Assuming you're talking about people talking about the Fae pact. That's an old pact that doesn't exist in the game anymore, and people who did have it leveled, do have one pacts worth of EXP that other people don't have.

[cerulean elk]

Ah, so it's a pact then? Like Sirin, Oscelda?

[vagrant kayak]

It was yes, was removed and its abilities were turned into what are now the 3 starting Pacts

[cerulean elk]

What does it look like? I've never heard of it. I thought you were talking about the event with the 3 masks, which I'd also like, but I started on Prelude 12.

[vagrant kayak]

It's the Envoy's blue arm without any additional armor, but again it's no longer in the game, was removed in P9 I think?

[cerulean elk]

Ah, okay, so it's no longer accessible. Okay, I understand better now. Well, thanks for the info, Alca's children!

[vagrant kayak]

You're welcome

[cerulean elk]

Have fun playing! It's a shame I don't know what to do anymore; I have everything maxed out except for the infamy of the ode when you do the two forts...

[cerulean elk]

Speaking of which, I still have a C grade. Does getting an S grade give more XP? If so, how do I get it?

?

[vagrant kayak]

For Sieges? No the grade does not increase XP, you get a better one by killing more enemies/not dying, though I don't think rank actually does anything at the moment

[knotty moon]

Kill everyone inside the fort and don't die, time does not matter.
Some users have a bugged UI and only get C, Infamy gain is the same though, and you can get S grade in other people games.
Cogah gives more Infamy.

[cerulean elk]

Because I see people with S rank and I'm still only C, even though I kill everyone, get everything in the world, and don't get hit...

[halcyon thicket]

Grade doesn't increase that's xp?

Then there's basically no reason to fight malrog

[cerulean elk]

So the best option would be to do both forts in Khoga mode? That way, for more XP?

Thanks for the idea about leveling up infamy in Cogha, I'll do that then, it's the only choice I have left to level up... Thanks, goodbye

[knotty moon]

Infamy gain is roughly:
Fort's Base Infamy + Cogah bonus - Deaths - Sinecure left alive.

[vagrant kayak]

They're asking about account XP

[halcyon thicket]

Oh

[vagrant kayak]

I don't know if it increases XP gained for weapons/Pacts

[halcyon thicket]

No i meant infamy xp

[carmine cypress]

Hey, just interested, how long does it take to reach that? Did you level up solo?

[vagrant kayak]

It does increase Infamy but also that doesn't do anything

[halcyon thicket]

But grade does affect what drops you get right, or do we not know that

[knotty moon]

No idea.

[cerulean elk]

I'm only asking to increase my infamy rank XP...

[vagrant kayak]

I don't think it does I believe it's just in preparation for Ode Infamy doing something

Infamy or account level? Because those are different things

[halcyon thicket]

Infamy, and the answer is yes

[vagrant kayak]

And as mentioned, Infamy doesn't do anything, it's a work in progress system, levelling it gets you nothing

[cerulean elk]

Hi, what have you gotten to?

@carmine cypress

[knotty moon]

Bragging rights.

Also, another note on Infamy, the UI gives the wrong number right now, the actual gain is a bit more than what reported.
The total is correct.
And if swtiching fort the total bugs out a bit by subtracting some, than is then added to the next fort you do. (purely visual in other word, you still gain the same)

[cerulean elk]

Level 17? I have no idea, it's hard to answer you. And yes, I'm playing solo. It's been a very long process, especially leveling up all the factions, unlocking everything, and especially looting Gathannan and Dewelion... I can't tell you exactly, but I started at the very beginning of Prelude 12 and I've been at the maximum level for about two weeks now...

[carmine cypress]

I am Level 6, and I can kill mobs up to 32, but slowly;) 22-26 looks better. Got bear and wolf pakt.

[cerulean elk]

I've done a lot of XP rooms though...

[vagrant kayak]

Again, this is normal, account level only goes up when levelling new weapons and Pacts and finding location names, if you're done with all of those you are at max account level

XP from killing enemies, doing Sieges, etc... does not increase account level

Level 17 IS the max level at the moment, the only way to get to 18 is to have every Founder item and have the bugged XP from the old Fey Pact

[cerulean elk]

Yes, I understand that, you explained it well. I'm going with the idea of filling that infamy bar as much as possible by doing the two forts. That's my current run..

[dire helm]

If you haven't yet, you should also take some time to aquire all of the runes and rank those. So that's something to do.

I'm lazy, so I'll probably only rank the runes I'm actually interested in, but if you're looking for a grind, that's one.

You'll need approximately 2mil harmony to rank up all runes and 3 of each totem. So there's a fair bit to do there.

[cerulean elk]

Yes, I'm only doing this to level up my infamy bar; it's the last thing I don't have maxed out, otherwise I don't see the point in playing right now as long as there's no other content.

[dire helm]

Is there a max cap on the infamy bar?

[cerulean elk]

already done

@dire helm

[knotty moon]

Tip on this: Farming Infamy gives a lots of runes, those convert to a lot of Harmony.

[cerulean elk]

Flammel

X30 lol

For dewelion

[knotty moon]

None that I found, but the bar resets like a rank up.
At 30k +/- I'm at around one third of the third bar.

[cerulean elk]

What do you mean by an XP limit like the factions limited to 16,000 XP per day? Otherwise, I suppose that as soon as the bar is full, we're at the maximum. I must be at 1/4.

[half talon]

Kind of depends. When I hit one limit, it increased. I’m working toward the next limit but I don’t regularly run sieges to know what (or if) there is a limit. First limit was 5k, which increased when I hit that limit.

[knotty moon]

Second was at 10k iirc.

[half talon]

Yeah I haven’t hit that limit…and I’ve slept since then but I know there are a few folks who run it more regularly than I do.

[knotty moon]

[half talon]

Welp there you go…

[hearty fable]

I NEED A KEY 🥲

[knotty moon]

Check pins, next stream is tomorrow.

[hearty fable]

ok ty

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1478453578367635547

[abstract kettle]

is there a way that a person who owns the game could gift it to me somehow? like having friend invites or no?

[dire helm]

Only if they got extra codes to share. If they were given a single code by another friend, then they may not.

[abstract kettle]

how could they check if they have extra codes?

[vagrant kayak]

They'll be under Account Management on the website. Also if they watch the Envoy Hour tomorrow they'll get an extra code to give away

You can also watch the Envoy Hour and get access

[knotty moon]

With a linked Soulframe/Twitch account.

[abstract kettle]

i will if they dont have it, since they showed me the game today and it looks pretty fun, wanna try it out

[knotty moon]

Tomorrow's stream is your best bet, as long as you link the account you should get it by watching 30 min.

[knotty moon]

Do the e-mail codes get added to the Account Manager now?
I remember mine did not.

[vagrant kayak]

That I don't know, those may be in the e-mail still

[brazen sparrow]

I noted down all of my keys, where they came from and where they were used. The email keys don't show in account management for me.

Or at the very least, they don't show up for me because those codes pre-date the code account management / twitch drop system.

[safe pelican]

Will whats left of my wevetseeds be overwritten when I claim more from the plant?

[normal sail]

nope, unless you are close to an integer limit

[safe pelican]

what's the limit?

[normal sail]

they will stack

unknown

[safe pelican]

thx

[sly escarp]

If you're over 100, attempting to claim more will result in claiming 0, according to the players we've seen with the issue.

[blissful veldt]

I have a question, is anyone struggling with really bad frame drops? I recently just updated the game and whenever it opens to the login screen its very slow

[smoky crater]

All i can think of is either shader cache got reset or there's somethin else wacky that might get fixed with apc restart or verifying and/or optimizing the files from the launchers settings

[blissful veldt]

mkay thank you

[smoky crater]

Shader cache will "fix" itself just by playing

[fringe tendon]

I have to admit I'm a bit confused, I went to where the arrow boss was made sure he was there drink the cogah and now he is not there, what's going on am I missing something??

[blissful veldt]

Yeah I tried verifying but it didnt change anything, I would try to play through it but its unplayable if i could i would show you

[halcyon thicket]

something similar happened to me these last 2 days

i reverted gpu update to an older one

issue was fixed

[blissful veldt]

ill try that

[halcyon thicket]

do u have an nvidia gpu tho

[buoyant bridge]

So... it's been a bit since I last logged in, but armors that I had forged seem to have been reset (specifically in chest and leg slots)? Also I feel really pigeon-holed with this new virtue system because I have ONE which makes wielding any equipment that I actually want to use annoying...

[brazen sparrow]

nvidia's 595.59 driver was "unreleased", so if you have it, you may want to downgrade back to 595.71.

[fringe tendon]

ok let me ask this, is the cogah bosses on a different timer than the non-cogah bosses?

[halcyon thicket]

they're 30 mins aswell

but yes

[fringe tendon]

ok so if I saw the arrow boss there in non cogah then why when I drank the cogah he disappered?

[halcyon thicket]

that's weird, either go far away and come back or go to nightfold and give it a minute

or just do another boss and come back

[fringe tendon]

I thought so too

don't want to waste the cogah on another boss at the moment, i;ll try nightfold or moving away and see what happens, maybe it is on a different timer?

[whole owl]

Agari have different timers between Cogah and normal

[cosmic hull]

how can i play?

[upbeat cradle]

yeah but i don't think that if you kill a boss and then start cogah it'll spawn in your face

so maybe enter a dungeon and exit, idk

something to let the world update

[whole owl]

they seem to have a "region" around them that if you're in they may or may not, being outside will usually ensure they do spawn when approaching

[mental anchor]

When is it out, anyone knows???

2027 but

[upbeat cradle]

no one knows

🇴 🅾️ 🇳 ™

[blissful veldt]

oh no i dont sorry

[hot pecan]

hey so i got a question on how you can get codes to play the game. Do you only get them from the live streams and if yes when is the next one?

[upbeat cradle]

tomorrow

[blissful veldt]

Hey so im pretty sure the primary source to get prelude codes are from livestreams, but from what I understand if a person wins they get three codes so that they could give two to some friends to play with, some people who are solo players will drop codes in servers or community posts for other people.

[wet tulip]

you can click here to check when is the next

make sure your soulframe website account is linked with the twitch account you will watch with

[upbeat cradle]

nah, the streams have drops activated and after 30 minutes of watching the stream you can redeem a single code for yourself, if your account doesnt have preludes activated then that code will be used instantly to do so

[vagrant kayak]

You can check the ways to get access in the pinned post as mentioned there will also be an Envoy Hour stream tomorrow with access as Twitch Drops, you will need to link your Soulframe account to Twitch

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1478453578367635547

[glacial lintel]

How many virtue tree things are there?

[blissful veldt]

ahh

[hot pecan]

ty all

[blissful veldt]

Also irdk the issue I have with me game, last time I played I was able to run high graphics with 90 fps, now I have my graphics set to Low and it runs at 18

[astral fiber]

if you are using dx12 delete shader cache

[blissful veldt]

alr

where do i do that at?

[astral fiber]

looks like probably %localappdata%\Soulframe

[pure horizon]

im wonder what blessed joineries you guys recommend for the following weapons:

purity
gathannan
baskers
seathorn
starling
skilter
paragon
vetch
witan
dewelion
royal tynes
clivers

[astral fiber]

but usually when games start running bad, they don't like your gpu drivers or old shader cache messed up, are the most common problems in my experience

[rain mesa]

Why would you use a wrist caster when you have a staff as your primary?

Like, I could see short blades for big sneak crits, or fly blades to build up Smites and to give a warrior a ranged option. But Staves are already ranged and magic based. Do wrist casters have some utility I’m missing?

[pure horizon]

spellsword build? idk

[gentle shale]

There is an use case I can think of: managing runes

The exploding rune only requires "marking" the enemy once, no need to deal any extra hits or kill the enemy with the weapon it's been equiped on

So you could use one of the two weapons as a smite generator with that rune, mark everyone on the fight and then switch to your primary damage dealer to actually kill them

You'd probably be done way quicker using your primary from the start, but it is still something you can do

[safe pelican]

I think I've built everything I wanted to build and now don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

[fringe tendon]

I'm sorry if I'm showing my noobness, but something happened to my abilities in cogah, my fast firing sidearm seemed like it was slowed down??

[blissful veldt]

Yeah idk the issue, it might just be that smth changed from when I last played because before i was running high graphics no issue and now im getting 30 fps on Low.

[sly escarp]

Extra hits applies additional stacks so the explosion does more damage, from my observations

[timid urchin]

I'm pretty sure cogah slows down your abilities and attack speed

[fringe tendon]

hmm is that so, then I need to watch that video again of the guy who just blized bosses, maybe something changed between the time of his video and now, if so I'll have to go with moras hand then

that video was only a month ago, it's this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GrqLIG6PZw

[halcyon thicket]

it doesnt slow down attack speed, it slows down ability cooldown, which isn't working right now

[fringe tendon]

ok good to know

[cursive lotus]

can't find where the vadagar bear spawns

it's always like this, soulframe adds an update but the content itself is squirreled away under a rock. only the strongest beta testers can overcome these trials to actually test their content

[sly escarp]

Shares spawn points with stag. If you're on a faction tale it should guide you there

[cursive lotus]

so are the old spawn points from previous preludes just somewhere else now or are they just even less likely to spawn

with the walls and shit everything's unclear

i ran thru the whole path earlier and i didn't see a single one

[sly escarp]

If you run across a spawn point for a Vadagar, it can spawn Stag or Bear. The sound effects when you approach it differ slightly as well.

[cursive lotus]

are the old spawn points in the northwest still there or not

[sly escarp]

Believe a couple are. Keep in mind you can only spawn one Vadagar a night though

[cursive lotus]

so if you get a deer you're just locked out?

[sly escarp]

Until the next night yes

However, faction tales don't have this restriction

[cursive lotus]

bleh, i shoulda just farmed kabocha while the parts were still there, now the grind is even more hellish

[sly escarp]

If you find a Slay the Vadagar Bear tree, it will spawn even if you killed a Stag in the same night

[cursive lotus]

can't even imagine what all the people having to actually farm deer armor are going thru lol

game's like musical chairs

stuff that was easy gets harder and hard to impossible stuff gets easy

[sly escarp]

Unfortunately, rapidly changing drop tables comes with the territory, for better or worse.

[safe pelican]

Is it worth doing dungeon bosses in cogah?

[sly escarp]

Dungeon Agari can drop Cogah Runes in Cogah

But Circade has no special drops or anything

[safe pelican]

I fought kabocha and it was bugged tf out. It phased through the floor and around 10 seconds later it died. Couldn't pick up the drops :c

[silk walrus]

1. Orengall (Set) from any Alca T3 or?
2. Cogah end when the person that used it or lead dies or does it continue until party wipe and people can be revived?
3. Do the Forts offer anything special in Cogah?
4. How does multiplayer scaling work?
5. Any general tips for Cogah?
6. What is daily faction rep cap? 15-16k?
7. Wyld Garren Rood when jk.

-Sorry the answers are likely here to be found but the game keeps changing and I have many qs... I know I'm forgeting some 😛

[visual radish]

2 party wipe
3 pretty sure no
4 none that i am aware of
5 dont die
6 16k

[cursive lotus]

don't think any other wylds will be coming in until the first three are actually released as ingame content accessible

[smoky crater]

1. yes (pretty sure anyway) or from rare glade chests

[visual radish]

Probably yeah

[arctic cedar]

5. Tip for Cigar - get Torrent first, use bow and clear everything in a second

[silk walrus]

Thank you, I heard from someone in a friends stream that multiplayer scaling existed but I didn't fully understand what they were saying. Seemed like players got scaled towards lowest party member but idk.

[arctic cedar]

Cogah 😭

[visual radish]

The wiki doesnt mention any scaling and the wiki crew are usually pretty on top of finding these things out

[visual radish]

Yeah lowest party member doesnt even make sense in this game

[wet tulip]

this is funny since torrent drops in cogah xDDD

[visual radish]

They probably got it mixed up with another game

[arctic cedar]

Well what I did was stayed afk in Nightfold during respawn times, fighting Grull for one day, got torrent and got all the other runes

[wet tulip]

easier to join others hosting cogah till you can do them yourself ¯_(ツ)_/¯. that way you get other bosses drops too

[silk walrus]

Well I guess it comes from Agari that can be at the start of the path. I shied away from bows. Just reforged Marrow yesterday for it. 🤔

[timid urchin]

My bad, couldn't remember everything cogah did

[arctic cedar]

With bow you can also snipe some if the bosses from far with headshots, especially now with crazy grace scaling, for example Kneel Knight you can just stay on the rocks far away

[cursive lotus]

is it just me or is cogah actually making the drop rates for everything else worse in exchange for a small chance at a rare cogah exclusive

[wet tulip]

its just rng. i got all cogah runes with 4 boss runs

[cursive lotus]

not the rune, i mean the other drops (joinery, weapon parts, etc) i seem to get less of them during cogah

[silk walrus]

I mean I think I'm around Mastery 14? Don't have the 2 pacts from the factions and only Wyld Teth but all pacts at 30 aside Orengall. Think my Short Blades are 1 pip from Max. I guess I could go back to bow but I was feeling comfy on Brobro w/ shield and Teth or Rood w/ Marrow or similar 🤷 I have 5 or so potions brewed up I was just taking my time, helping out friends etc. I don't have much else in the normal world I know of aside a few bits and bobs.

[cursive lotus]

also discharged nimrod seems to disappear after doing the organ next to it sometimes???

like i see the lightning strikes at the boss site but then he's just not, like, here

[arctic cedar]

Oh you should be able to do it then, 14 is more than enough I think

I don't think cogah is that hard maybe except for the spider

[silk walrus]

The game has spiders?

[cursive lotus]

that's only because the webbing attack hits for like a billion damage lol

[arctic cedar]

It has, near the forest and an agari one which can kind kill you with 1-2 hits

[normal sail]

4 legged spiders, yes

[arctic cedar]

This spider was painful tbh

[silk walrus]

Sorry that was sarcasm. I have screenshots of fighting like 6 or so other agari with the spider pull web glow thing bugged out on me.

[cursive lotus]

which tree am i supposed to be looking at for hunting vadagars

searching for this stuff is expensive and undocumented

i tried the one i saw on reddit but that didn't give me jack shit

[arctic cedar]

North east trees mostly

[silk walrus]

Cogah scales as you're there though yea? So like # of enemies defeated ups levels or actual time passed or is this incorrect?

[arctic cedar]

It does scale, I think time passed or both

[cursive lotus]

every boss you fight increases the debuff

so basically when a boss dies, everything gets harder

[halcyon thicket]

the debuff does not increase, the enemy level does

[arctic cedar]

But I think time affects it too, I was afking and the enemies got higher level when I came back?

[halcyon thicket]

enemy level increases by 5 with each agari

ive kept my machine on for 3 days in a row with cogah on, level did not increase on its own

[arctic cedar]

Oh ok, was it always like this?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[silk walrus]

So I can go to Nightfold, what if I logout? and can I invite people in whenever or do they need to be their during potion use. Starting to feel bad for not just figuring it out myself but...

[halcyon thicket]

logging out ends cogah

you can only invite others before taking the potion

[cursive lotus]

ah screw it, i'm just gonna quit this game for another six months to reshuffle everything

actually more efficient to play this way lmao

[arctic cedar]

Because od the bear? Lol

[silk walrus]

Awesome thanks for the info GLHF!

[cursive lotus]

yeah, i don't really have anything else to farm except like two cogah runes, a bunch of near impossible fragment drop rates, and maxing out the handful of weapons that are good. that's my cutoff. i come back half a year later and it takes like ten minutes to get those things

except arbearer gear i guess, that'll either get even harder or not, and it's not like i need it when i already grinded out the mendicant king set

plus a lot of these runes are just straight up worse than "add damage" runes so if i'm gonna bang my head against a wall it's not gonna be struggling to farm super rare fragments for a two star rarity weapon or a rune that hasn't actually been tested to make it useful

[arctic cedar]

Ah well makes sense, I was surprised because bear doesn't drop many things

[cursive lotus]

it's just the bear armor. but hoo boy the fragment rarity distribution makes it even more frustrating than old warframe part drop distribution

[arctic cedar]

The uglies armour anyways

[cursive lotus]

i've been in the vay hek mines and boy howdy having 25 fragments of the thing i don't want is crazy on top of having to wait three hours for one try

plus they keep designing everything as if mounts exist, they drop a bunch of engagement walls, but mounts feel like dead last priority

game's being made backwards lmao

so yeah, six months

the way everything is arranged feels like when sakurai put tripping into smash bros

[arctic cedar]

Well I don't mind running and I have a lot of seeds but lack of content is getting to me

[cursive lotus]

i am okay with running, i'm not okay with running towards bum drops

like they even meganerfed chest stuff

they said they were going to reduce chest frequency and raise their reward threshold but then the chest frequency remains the same but they have almost nothing in them now

like i'm gonna go insane trying to feed that cope lol

[sly escarp]

They removed everything from chests a while after they said they were making chests less common

[cursive lotus]

so it's just Time To Wait

[arctic cedar]

Chests and dungeons will hopefully get better rewards soon because it is absolutely pointless rn to run them, I think they mentioned something lately

[cursive lotus]

increasingly bizarre design decisions from behind the dev build curtain

changes made before anything actually happens

[safe pelican]

Does cogah wraith of wastes spawn mendicant knights?

[cursive lotus]

i know i can't see what they're doing but they can't see what we're doing too lol

wraith doesn't spawn knights

[sly escarp]

What do you mean?

[cursive lotus]

no wait is the wraith the one in the north or the fake wazzard

[sly escarp]

Wraith is the Wazzard agari in the south

Doesn't spawn Mendicant Knights

[cursive lotus]

okay yeah that's just a solo fight

[halcyon thicket]

it's possible they came from the other side

[sly escarp]

Turns into some Weavers though

[cursive lotus]

yeah, it can spawn six weavers

they're all chumps though

[safe pelican]

Bruh how did they see me so far away? Can't believe wraith of wastes got me after all of that 🥲

[cursive lotus]

if you're fast enough generally it won't hit that phase if you just beat them relentlessly

like, even the giant sword wave can be parried so there's no reason to stop wailing on him

[arctic cedar]

Idk I feel kinda weird lately about the development tempo of the game, it kinda feels extremely slow

[cursive lotus]

oh it's always been slow. these systems are pretty complex

[safe pelican]

Its not the weavers, I was fine with those. Its the random ass army of mendicant knight that was annoying af to deal with

[sly escarp]

Plus they're not a full team yet

[cursive lotus]

the problem is that the interim choices they're making are......confusing at times, really

[arctic cedar]

Ok but is this going to be addressed or are we expecting release in 2030?

[sly escarp]

They've been running this on a partial team and whatever money that's not needed for Warframe

[halcyon thicket]

also in cogah those knights hit really hard, i was full courage and a level 46 took half my hp, at 43 courage

[cursive lotus]

development is actually increasing in speed compared to how it was previously

[sly escarp]

They said the plan is to expand the team and speed development with the Founders money

[halcyon thicket]

a couple of ppl already pointed that out

[safe pelican]

I noticed 😭
Really frustrating

I thought this wasn't supposed to be a souls like, wtf is dark souls 2 doing here?

[cursive lotus]

right now we're just experiencing Steve's Journey On The Development Karmic Wheel as he faces his past demons

[halcyon thicket]

its to be expected, they are using the magistar from warframe

[sly escarp]

Personally see it as experimenting. None of their systems are set and they're trying things to see.

Pretty common in pre-development

[safe pelican]

I just hope prisms and virtues as well as arts are dealt with ASAP

[cursive lotus]

cogah's either damage scaling way higher than your armor, or your own armor's being lowered, so you can't afford to take too many hits. more bosses in and you will basically get oneshot. it's the survival gauntlet in boss fight form

thankfully the bosses themselves don't actually get that much more HP themselves, so as long as you have something strong there is no upper limit on killing bosses on cogah

[safe pelican]

As long as I don't die cogah should go on infinitely? Even if I relog?

[sly escarp]

Logging out ends it

[cursive lotus]

besides your free time, patience, and raging against bad drops lol

logging or using the flute teleport in nightfold which resets your instance will end cogah

(also reportedly fleeing from bosses but why would you do that)

[wary laurel]

i suck at this game !!! i don´t know where to go, my bird flies a few meters and disappears, or what do i do next, no pop-ups of the keys to use (thank you YT for stag puzzle), i only use my bow and dagger to close combat, i have 30K coins but 0 arcs, i have a inventory full of stuff i loot but never used to level up or upgrade my weapons, because i don´t know where to slot them - its getting frustrating ...and NPC metallic echoing-voice is unsettling 😭

...at least i managed to reach this stage 😢

[sly escarp]

Is there something you'd like some help with?

Totally fine if you're just looking to vent, but if you'd like advice we can provide that too

[safe pelican]

Can all bosses be stealth attacked with flintsmoke rune for shortblades?

[wary laurel]

sorry my bad... im used to skyrim LOL how do i level up my weapons?

[sly escarp]

Not all, but many

[sly escarp]

By using them!

Weapon levels cap out at 30 for each unique weapon

[safe pelican]

Im guessing the beast type bosses can't

[sly escarp]

Levelling weapons also gets you Weapon Arts points for that weapon type, which you can use to unlock perks.

[wary laurel]

oh i dont have to slot in items to power them... i believe my char is LVL 2

[safe pelican]

Also, if Im still invisible can I do it over and over again?

[sly escarp]

Also nimrod for some reason

[sly escarp]

Could be!

[safe pelican]

Is hitting him while invisible also considered a stealth attack? Like does it benefit from grace stealth multiplier?

[sly escarp]

As long as your rune is active you can repeatedly finisher, yes

[sly escarp]

Only if he's not alert

If you're invisible but he's alert you don't get the bonus

Finisher animations get a seperate multiplier from grace as well

[safe pelican]

ground finishers included?

[sly escarp]

Not sure on that tbh

[wary laurel]

is the cerberus bear boss, easy to kill? i saw it has 3 phases and im afraid my bow will only tickle him - hes huge!

[safe pelican]

How long does it take for a boss to go from alert to not alert?

[sly escarp]

He's probably the hardest story boss in the game at the moment

[safe pelican]

shoot the head

[sly escarp]

I'm not sure they do tbh

The Agari AI is a bit odd compared to normal enemies

[wary laurel]

omg its one if my 3 quests i believe

head, ok thx!

[halcyon thicket]

i don't remember this

this pic was from last year, P9

[smoky crater]

oh the directions being glyphs?

[halcyon thicket]

ye

[smoky crater]

i remember it waaay too well ._.

[halcyon thicket]

lol, interesting choice to make it crypted

[smoky crater]

there was a lot of people complaining about it causing the compass to be unclear

i honestly liked it a lot more

[halcyon thicket]

yeah this is one of those things that doesnt really work with a live service game, accessibility is needed

[smoky crater]

but honestly it also took a long time for the first complaints to actually appear from what i remember ._.

like there was long period where no one complained about it

[halcyon thicket]

cause using the compass' directions is not common really

most of the time you put whatever is already highlighted in the center and press forward

only people who roughly remember where certain areas are from their current position will use the directions

[arctic cedar]

I wish we had a minimap instead of compass tbh

[halcyon thicket]

probably will happen with enough push from players, tho not any time soon, atleast not with the current players we have

[smoky crater]

kinda hope not

[arctic cedar]

Why not? Wouldn't it be easier? It's also possible that I'm just really bad with directions

I keep spamming map all the time

[halcyon thicket]

how long have u been playing

[arctic cedar]

Since December

But I get lost in real life too so 😂

[sly escarp]

Believe DE is trying for minimalist UI with the game

They want to make it feel like a world, not a game

Hence the bird and a full map

[final rock]

less games need minimaps imo

[arctic cedar]

Yeah probably I'm the issue not the compass

[sly escarp]

Nothing wrong with getting a little lost sometimes imo

Hopefully it's not been too much of an issue for you?

[final rock]

you can make the compass always visible and place waypoints on the map

[arctic cedar]

Well in the past before we had current mobiles it kinda was, I went to the forest once instead of where I was suppose to go 😇

But now I just put on Google maps

But even in the shopping mall in the city u live for years I can't remember what is where and have to go for a map sometimes

In game I think I am going somewhere and turns out sometimes I'm going opposite direction

Idk how that happens this 1 brain cell is not working

[lethal linden]

Time for a speed test for people: 99A7-76EC-D476-D767

[normal sail]

i am getting vietnam flashbacks of printing off MapQuest directions

[visual radish]

Dunno how useful an advice it would be but when you are walking the bird lands on your shoulder and points with its head with supposedly more precision

[keen trellis]

ty, bro.

[fringe tendon]

ok I've killed the colvah bow guy 2 times now and no rune, is that normal or are we talking bug?

[severe shard]

Is there any way to stay logged into the game even after exiting? Or do you have to enter the password every time you log in?

[fringe tendon]

you can alt tab out, that's what I do

[severe shard]

But in that case, you’re not leaving the game you’re just switching applications or screens. I would like the “Remember you” option to also work for the password, not just the email.

[fringe tendon]

ahhh got it

So about the colvah bow guy, bug or rng for the rune?

[spare badge]

Depends on the boss. I've run across Reaper a few times napping, and been able to carve off up to 2/3 of his health before he actually got up and started fighting.

[sly escarp]

RNG

Personally killed him a dozen times in cogah and another 8 in normal

Got the normal rune but still no cogah

[fringe tendon]

ok just wanted to make sure, so is the torrent rune the only thing he drops?

oh crap

[sly escarp]

Torrent runes a few weapon fragments but those are a seperate roll

Agaric Mushrooms but again guaranteed and seperate

[fringe tendon]

now those mushrooms I see them but I can't pick them up or is it automatic?

[languid escarp]

should be a big one in the middle, pick that one up for the rewards

[worldly wolf]

Okay,

Gilduar or Feybalt on Magick Sidarms?

**Feybalt projected total bonus damage: **
Attack 1: 0
Attack 2: 10
Attack 3: 30
Attack 4: 60
Attack 5: 100
Attack 6: 150
Attack 7: 210
Attack 10: 450

Gilduar projected total bonus damage:

Attack 1: 25
Attack 2: 50
Attack 3: 75
Attack 4: 100
Attack 5: 125
Attack 6: 150
Attack 7: 175
Attack 10: 250

From my math and expierence, it seems Feybalt may be the better choice simply becuase you will chain attacks between targets fast enough that the momentum past Attack 6 will carry over to the next guy and you start nuking.

Where while using Gilduar, the increased base damage was pushing past initial damage reducitons but without the esculating damage, this just lead to consistent damage but slower fights overall.

Anyone have any thoughts?

[languid escarp]

feybalt only stacks up to 3 :(

[worldly wolf]

That is good to know

[jolly dome]

when you harvest wevetseeds, does it discard the ones you already had beforehand? I had 1 in inventory, I harvested and it said I got 3, and now I have 3 in inventory

[languid escarp]

it's basically just trash now

[languid escarp]

it'll show your total when you pick up, they stack up (although it can be buggy)

[jolly dome]

oh I see, ok, ty

[final rock]

ah that sucks. 75s still notably better against agari, which is when dmg starts actually mattering.

[worldly wolf]

**Feybalt projected total bonus damage: **
(rescaled for 3 stack max)
Attack 1: 0
Attack 2: 10 (+10)
Attack 3: 30 (+20)
Attack 4: 60 (+30)
Attack 5: 90
Attack 6: 120
Attack 7: 160
Attack 10: 250

That makes it exactly the same at Gilduar's 10th attack, which makes it effectively.... kinda useless... yeah. That is much slower route of damage progression just to get to the same spot.

[final rock]

oh wait i misread which was which

[languid escarp]

it used to be +20 and 6 stacks but they nerfed it into the ground

[worldly wolf]

oof

[final rock]

shame it got nerfed so significantly. wonder if DE'll kneecap torrent sooner or later

[languid escarp]

sure they will at somepoint but probably get another 15 daggers first lol

[glacial lintel]

How do I get stronger so I can solo t3 tree tales at the northeast tree?

I’m about to just buy paragon finally f it

[limpid quarry]

Does Seathorn only drop from tier-3 tales?

[hearty jetty]

does anyone have a solid magic build ?

trying to maximize the damage for my erstroot but it still feels like it does no damage compared to courage and grace builds

[neat night]

Chill

Well. Easiest way is tethren courage build. With marrow bane or purity because they don't required rune from cogah in order to be strong (but to be honest, any melee weapon with flame rune will do)

For armor, bear or king will do.

I can also help u if our timezone match

at work rn though

or if you don't have tethren, any bow with Alca breath will also fine, just need to aim

[stuck fjord]

Highly advise leveling stuff aswell, even if you wont use it just level it so it contributes to account level, each account level is one extra attribute point

[neat night]

Also, the founder pack doesn't make you "instantly strong enough" to do anything, it just gives you more toys to play with, while I still suggest buying to to support the game, but don't buy it just for power

[glacial lintel]

Can you upgrade gear?

I bought it

[neat night]

nice

[neat night]

then u can try this

should have the whole set for u ready to use with the pack

[glacial lintel]

I see

[neat night]

(still need to level those up and find the flame weapon rune if you don't have yet)

[glacial lintel]

I’m about to see how that all works I’m trying to max bonds with ancestors

It’s just farming mats and faction xp lol