gameplay-discussion

[dusty hatch]

I wish I could deactivate it, only thing it does is breaking the flow of combat, denying me smiting and making me wonder if I get weapon xp for the kill. utterly useless passive.

[vagrant kayak]

You can reset your Pact points at any time if you'd rather not have Feral active

[chilly brook]

efficient

[knotty moon]

Faction Tales.

[chilly brook]

just spam it?

[knotty moon]

Yep, go to the NE and spam Tales.

[silver lark]

but then you're giving up cooldown reduction as well

[vagrant kayak]

No you're not, that node is gone

[knotty moon]

Provided you still need something from Tales ofc.

[chilly brook]

i need a better build tbh, i keep dying at ne with tethren V.v

[knotty moon]

Other stuff that is good to do while exping is Agari, Organ and Sieges.
Basically, farm while exping.

[silver lark]

aha, I need to take better look at new trees in P13, thanks

[knotty moon]

Akin was replaced by Healer, which makes healing more efficent.
Didn't really test by how much though.

[dusty hatch]

need it to reeach healer tho

[vagrant kayak]

Why use Healer when Sympathy is right there

[calm crown]

Is the pickpocket perk on Syrin supposed to proc when you have Flitsmoke active? It just says for Glamour, but it works on Flitsmoke . . . and I hope that's not a bug. I think it's a cool synergy

[chilly brook]

are there a beginner build that let me kill stuff easy?

like which pact/weapon?

[knotty moon]

It works when undetected, by any means. (including just sneaking)

[calm crown]

Least complicated setup is just Tethren with Longblade or Sword&Shield, imo.

[knotty moon]

Not sure, but investing into the Virtue Arts can raise your weapon damage.
Getting your hands on Triune should be fairly easy too. (search Avakot.org for Festival of the Circade).
After that I advice armor strip totems.

The combination of those thing should help you deal a bit more damage.

[chilly brook]

i see, i need to learn what are those are first XD

[vagrant kayak]

It says Glamour but you just have to be undetected, it actually works when sneaking normally as well

[chilly brook]

for tethren, which node should i lvl?

[knotty moon]

Those are the Virtue Arts.
First level gives one point, second gives two, third gives three.
For a total of six points, and cost the same number of Arts points.

[chilly brook]

hmm, so if i use long sword, i go for mora?

[calm crown]

Conqueror for survivability

[knotty moon]

Generally yes, with the exception of Dewelion that scales with Grace.
Just check what your weapons are scaling with.

[calm crown]

try to get Marrow's Bane

[chilly brook]

this what i use atm

[calm crown]

Good choice.

[knotty moon]

Yeah, that's Mora (Courage).

[calm crown]

solid

[chilly brook]

it worth to reforge it?

[knotty moon]

Yes, if you have the resources to do it.
Up to Polished it is just extra stats.
Blessed are special in that they have the same stats as a Polished version, but add a pip of scaling, but they reset the weapon rank.

[chilly brook]

is this bad or good?

[knotty moon]

Good.

[chilly brook]

k

between these 3, which should i max?

[calm crown]

Conqueror, imo

[spare badge]

Feral, the "heal on smite", and then focus on the virtues.

[chilly brook]

i got 9 point left

my tethren haven't max sadly

[knotty moon]

Personally I would focus on the Virtues before anything else, but do experiment with what works for you.

[spare badge]

Always max the "heal on smite". Cause that gives 100% healing when you smite something.

[chilly brook]

which virtue is orengall? spirit or courage?

[chilly brook]

i maxed courage on tethren

idon't know if i need to max grace/spirit

[knotty moon]

If your weapon or armor is not scaling with them, no.

[chilly brook]

this is heal on smite, right?

[knotty moon]

Even then I would just max the one related to your weapon to avoid spending too much on them.

[spare badge]

The pact is different from the armor. You want more spirit, cause more ghost wolves. Secondarily, grace.

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[spare badge]

Yeah. Max that one out.

[chilly brook]

are there a way to check if i max faction standing without having to go to the place?

[calm crown]

Little Genius app from wiki.avakot.org

[wet tulip]

do 1 star tale and see

[spare badge]

Lore wise, Orengall should be more Spirit focused, since her title is "the fang of iridis", and all the other mentions of the connection between omen wolf and the moon.

[chilly brook]

idk why, maybe cause my pact is low lvl, but wolf get 1 shot at the weaver boss V.v

[spare badge]

Gameplay wise, more spirit will give you additioal ghost wolf summons, beyond the normal 2 max.

[spare badge]

Bosses and bannerettes tend ot do that. It's a problem with the pact scaling.

[chilly brook]

i see

[spare badge]

Ghost wolves need some reworks.

Additionally, I've noticed that about 60% of the time, the ghost wolves and enemies don't want to interact. That started back when DE added the code to make enemies stop infighting when they spot the Envoy. That code affects the Sirin decoy and the ghost wolves.

[chilly brook]

i only have 8 point in long blade, where the best to use them?

[knotty moon]

Personally, I would go with:
2 ranks of Smitten.
1 rank of Riposte, Vaunt, Swift Parry, and Unyielding.

[spare badge]

Unlock the node for parrying heavy attacks.

[knotty moon]

Then max Smitten when you get the next 2 points.

[fickle finch]

how can I start playing the game is it invite only?

[knotty moon]

#envoy-gathering message

[calm crown]

Code from someone who is already in. Or random drop from Twitch devstream

[fickle finch]

ahhh cool I see thanks guys!

[knotty moon]

Twitch drops aren't random, they are time based, watch 30 min for one.

[calm crown]

OR buy founder's pack

[calm crown]

I thought they did lottery style drops for people who tuned in

[wet tulip]

thats for wyld founder packs

[knotty moon]

They do that too, but for Founders giveaways.

[wet tulip]

or the whole paragon

[woeful star]

So I'm assuming wyld is soulframes version of prime, can't wait for wyld orengal

Gimme double stats on werewolf pact

[fickle finch]

how similar is the game to warframe?

[chilly brook]

not similar XD

[wet tulip]

i guess only thing 100% similar is the MR lvling system

other then that everything is kinda different

[knotty moon]

There are quite a few things that are inherited from WF, but overall the flow is much different.

[chilly brook]

im at the area, but i don't see any scroll or enemy carry it V.v

[calm crown]

those can be tricky. it's probably just laying in the grass. but sometimes they manage to roll or bounce downhill

[chilly brook]

oh, dying and go back and it appear O.o

does each crypt puzzle room reward the same items or different?

[knotty moon]

The first room only sometimes spawn an openable sarcophagus, otherwise all puzzles award one or a chest.
There is also the two major puzzles that have unique rewards (Festival of the Circade in Avakot.org for info about those).

[chilly brook]

ok, cause i got an armors set from the puzzle room thingy

[knotty moon]

That's one of the two major puzzles.
-# In theory that should be done second as the clues to figure it out are in the first puzzle, but if you have the solution you can do it out of order. 😛

[chilly brook]

ahh, dam now i need 3 crypt key XD

[safe pelican]

What's the difference between a finisher and attacking a downed foe?

[knotty moon]

Finisher happens when they are stunned (stagger damage).
Downed foe attack is a different animation, and can be triggered on any fallen enemy.

[safe pelican]

when you stab them while they're laid on the grownd? Thats attacking a downed enemy?

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[safe pelican]

Perfect

thanks

[chilly brook]

darn, i was in NE doing tale, it lead me to the crypt and after i done

it send me to se...., i have to travel all the way back up T.T

no fast travel seed suck so bad

[dull ocean]

When you're maxed out for daily faction xp, doesnt that mean you cant get the faction rewards either for t3's? I've just done like 3 tier 3 dungeons for Kith of Kings and only got the tempest stuff. Usually I get one of the fire king armor parts?

[frozen ether]

today i found out you can kill Nimrod with the Organ

[smoky crater]

you can get rewards still, just not the rep

[frozen ether]

after maxing kith of kings is there anything i should buy from him that i cant get anywhere else before i move onto the next?

[languid escarp]

the pact, mora's hand

[safe pelican]

Any new bosses dropped since preludes 12?

[safe jolt]

God .. i need a Key ❤️

[keen river]

prisms, dyes, the +6 courage medallion, and mora's hand, to my knowledge. also basker's wrest can only drop from kith tales and offerings, so if you don't have that yet, grab it

[visual radish]

Bear can appear now like the stags

[safe pelican]

Where does Oryn-Umbr drop?

[regal shadow]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Oryn-Umbr

[safe pelican]

I fought everything within that drop table a thousand times and I haven't got a single fragment. Is it bugged?

[regal shadow]

my guess would be common enemies have very low drop %, i've mostly gotten it from elite enemies and bannerets

[crystal edge]

can make the new sword 3 x but no bow 🙁

[nova crow]

the music minigames all need tweaking

is this 4/4?

[umbral egret]

2/3 Purity babyyy

Almost there!

[finite stone]

in what way?

[umbral egret]

I don't think so.

I'm very new and I've gotten enough shards.

I haven't crafted it yet though

[finite stone]

no I don't think so, they all feel distinctly 3/4 to me, or at least walz-like. If you consider it that way you tend to get much better timing even without looking at the targets

[nova crow]

wtf i've been playing drums and guitar for like 16 years

and i'm blue noting everything

[safe pelican]

This is very confusing. Not a single fragment is crazy

[nova crow]

with my eyes closed its even worse

[umbral egret]

I am about to hit rank 4 with Kith, but I want to switch to another one for a few things they have. Are there penalties to swapping?

[finite stone]

same but with piano, and it was a little tough to get consistent golds at first until I started going just a millisecond before the marker. Maybe try that, like if you look at the spokes on the marker, go for one anticlockwise of the topmost

[nova crow]

i can wait for them

but the song the first time round and the timing the 2nd time round don't feel the same

[spare badge]

What's "blue noting".

[nova crow]

when you don't orange

[spare badge]

🤨
Can you translate to plain english?

[sly escarp]

When playing the notes

If you get a Perfect Note it turns gold

If it's only a Good Hit, you get it turning Blue

[knotty moon]

Charm minigame, got an hit, but not perfectly.

[spare badge]

Ah. Ok. I guess I still have enough brain fog from having a cold that it wasn't connecting...

[sly escarp]

All good!

[safe pelican]

is there a chest im supposed to open after the collector event?

[knotty moon]

No, but all the steel crates you managed to save will explode into loot like piñatas.
Also will get a fragment automatically at event end.

[spare badge]

DE needs to let us save the critters. Cause that just feels bad watching them be doomed.

[knotty moon]

Yeah, Mada's laugh is just salt in the wound.

[normal sail]

esp since the thunderstone tale has a super ultra rare spawn chance

[spare badge]

Yeah. We need a thunderston to always spawn with the Collector event, the critters cage to not require a thunderstone, or the cage to jsut be removed from the event.

[knotty moon]

Simple solution would be to allows us to save the cage too, and open it up at event end without a thunderstone.

[spare badge]

Back in early p9 when the collector was just the end of a 3 star tale, with a 90% chance of a "grab a thunderstone" to be one of the steps, it was fine. But after they nerfed the thunderstone drop rates, it just really hurt the feeling of doing the event.

[floral yoke]

So, i had the collector leave, randomly
I can't find her again
Is that normal?

[halcyon thicket]

6 hours cooldown

[floral yoke]

She left without engaging?

[knotty moon]

In theory it should switch position every 12h, so you might have gotten to the "old" place.

[floral yoke]

She's still spawning on the same spot for others :/

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
Try relogging.

[floral yoke]

Done twice already

She just flipped off, that's just bs

[spare badge]

She gave you the bird?

[floral yoke]

Yup

[spare badge]

Try throwing D-nimord inot the woodchipper? Maybe it'll anger her enough to make her stick around?

[nova crow]

the rhythm of the small statues is fine

[floral yoke]

Dude, yes, maybe i should XD

[nova crow]

the ones that give buffs

the animals are the problem

[spare badge]

IF nothing else, it might make you feel better.

[floral yoke]

Very solid tho

[nova crow]

maybe i'm just tripping because the notes are moving and not the red bar...

[spare badge]

I think somewhere, we had a feedback about some of those needing to better "grace period" per note...

Could alwys toss up a suggestion in #1438224662344761345 . If a legit musician is having trouble, that might lend some credence to our pervious complaints.

[nova crow]

i'll try a few more animal captures and see

i think the timing between the first play through and the 2nd isn't correct

[spare badge]

Part of why we're here is to give DE feedback and point out bugs that need fixed. Pre-alpha growing pains and whatnot.

[nova crow]

these lightning suiciders are really fun to play against

we can't kill dogs, but people can blow themselves up to damage us 🥲

[knotty moon]

-# If you trigger a Smite after the collar comes of you can kill them by pullling it.

[spare badge]

Those are alien invaders. Also, DE used to make us kill the ode dogs. We gave them enough feedback on it that they changed it. People don't like seeing dogs get hurt/killed. During the filming of Friday the 13th part 8, Kane Hodder flat out refused to portray Jason Voorhees as someone who would kick a dog. A few decades later, we got the John Wick movies.

[nova crow]

do we really need dog enemies?

[knotty moon]

I still think it is discrimination against spiders, no one defends their rights. 😂

[spare badge]

I think it's got something to do with showing how the Ode are trying to control Alcan animals. The Spellsong doesn't work on animals (dogs, the critters we rescue, Omen Beasts), sproutfolk (Avakot and alca's children enclave), people with bad or altered hearing (silent rose enclave), ghosts (kith enclave, out ancestor ghosts), or apparently people with magical blue arms. So, they need a type of mind control helmet to make those things do their bidding.

[whole owl]

I hear those blue armed folks are dangerous

[knotty moon]

Caged animals are also sludged.

[pine warren]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-horror-boombox-gif-13414393

[twilit lance]

I think it’s on brand that druids won’t kill dogs

[spare badge]

Exactly. It's why they added the boombox scene. The script had called for Jason to do that to Toby, the dog.

[pine warren]

And because of that, they managed to create one of the best Jason scenes

[spare badge]

Indeed. And it kinda helped with Jason's lore of "sure, he's evil, but he's lawful evil."

Would be hilarious if Envoy could scare ode with our ugly face. We just need "lift mask" added to the Crone Mask. 🤣
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obtc9U6hEYM

[floral yoke]

Where is Fore-Feller Hewyl at? Cuz maps don't show where it's at? XD

[whole owl]

inside a dungeon iirc

[spare badge]

IS that someone who exists?

[floral yoke]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fore-Feller_Hewyl

[knotty moon]

Dungeon just north of the southeastern tree.

[whole owl]

I went to grab that, tyvm lol

[floral yoke]

Yo, thanks, found him XD

[whole owl]

usually named npcs are on the wiki

[umbral egret]

Yo...is it really 22500 standing to be able to afford the shimmer required to craft the necklace to switch factions?

And no other way to get these talismans?

[knotty moon]

25k as far as I know.
5k for the first rank up, 5k for the second, and two 7.5k.

[umbral egret]

I'm not even talking rank up I'm talking even buying the material

The wiki says it takes 3 each and they're 7500

[knotty moon]

As far as I know you only need one per Talisman.

[umbral egret]

Okay thats still annoying but...manageable.

[spare badge]

What wiki are you looking at?

[umbral egret]

Nevermind I'm stupid

[knotty moon]

Uh, Sacred Shimmer is Rank 3, not 2.

[umbral egret]

The 3 fragments got me

Anyway guess I should get farming up a bit so I can swap.

[spare badge]

Oh. Ok. Yeah. That's fragments, not shimmers.

I was goinna say, they do need fragments, but those are common drops in the areas they drop from.

[twilit lance]

BLOW THIS MAN UP!!!!

[umbral egret]

Do the talismans given with each founders pack also count as the faction talismans?

[twilit lance]

RAAAAAAAH

[umbral egret]

MODS DELETE HIM

EAT HIS FACE

[twilit lance]

BEAT HIM

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-ban-syntheticllama-gif-21044291

[knotty moon]

Nope.

[spare badge]

PSA: Just ping the moderator role, instead of feeding the bots.

[lethal tundra]

I'm hitting the Organ sites farming for the new loot.

I already have the sword Falks and one piece of Wazzard armor.

But i really want thay new Bow.

[umbral egret]

blue

[floral yoke]

Thanks XD

What's the seed claim timer now? Was it 12h?

[lethal tundra]

@umbral egret Grace

[vagrant kayak]

Yeah 12 hours

[umbral egret]

Am I the only one who thinks spirit makes more sense as blue and grace as green

[floral yoke]

Thanks!

[tall stream]

Hey I don’t know if this is the right channel for this, but how do I get an invite to join the prelude, I’ve had an account sense July, any help would be great!

[umbral egret]

Check pins in the Envoy gathering channel!

[tall stream]

Ok thank you

[vagrant kayak]

Yeah this if you've been waiting a while I would also advise keeping an eye on #soulframe-news there are Envoy Hour streams every other week as well as (usually) one devstream every month that have invite keys as Twitch Drops

[mild robin]

uhhhhhh

nice view i guess

[primal verge]

kith of kings, where do I stand, a big 0 with 4870/5000 under it. does that 0 mean I have no more daily standing to gain?

[vagrant kayak]

Means you're at rank 0, once you hit 5000 you can rank up to rank 1

Daily standing cap is 16k so you are not at cap yet

[primal verge]

ok nice

Ty

[vagrant kayak]

Please don't ask for codes in the Discord you can check the pinned message in #envoy-gathering for how to get access

[rose condor]

Sorry

Ma fault

[primal verge]

I'm at the point where I have a few "Polished" joineries. What do I even do with the lesser rank ones? Plus I have a few Palladiums and Eldores, do these have any use?

[languid escarp]

you'll end up with lots of polished, slam one on anything you're using levelling, lesser ones are junk then the blessed ones which reset rank just use on your fav weapons

[primal verge]

Also is there any use for all the blueprints for stuff I've already crafted? Can I sell "junk" for coins? (Dracs?)

[languid escarp]

not at the mo

[primal verge]

darng. ty

[silver lark]

In the Crypt of the Circade, I m oinly getting the blue wall glyph even thought I already have blue talisman. Red and Green Glyph are not showing to me. is there any solution to this? I'm still missing the green talisman

[languid escarp]

they can be anywhere in the dungeon, gotta search

[umbral egret]

Its been a productive day

[late galleon]

wtf Avex have no rain of arrows?

very nice bow to up lvl 30 and sell

[vagrant lance]

okay so did the wolf quest completely, saw the cut scene, but no actual pup in my tent. Do i need that for anything or is it just a visual?

[unique jolt]

the hitbox looks healthy right? XD

[fossil heron]

is it just me or does jumping feel weird sometimes?

[narrow fjord]

Any limitations when playing Coop and you are not hosting?

What do You miss as a guest? Does missions sync?

And exploring the map does that sync?

[regal shadow]

Only thing that coop bugs are fables, ie quests, everything else works more or less fine

[narrow fjord]

Im still a noob. Fables?

The main missions?

You mean?

[regal shadow]

So clearing location names, tales, dungeons, resource farming etc works good

Fables are major quests basically

[narrow fjord]

What kind of bugs is there? Do you get the same items and sync with your world or do you have to do all over again in your own world

[rain mesa]

Waste Bear seems to break my sparrow. I have to rendezvous with Vaerminia but I don’t know where to go. The mouse-sparrow just hovers in place facing wherever I’m facing.

[regal shadow]

Game just doesn't track progression for clients, so you'd have to do the same quest again in your own world

[narrow fjord]

Ahh okay. I see. Thank you alot

[gaunt charm]

when I use spectral sight, some enemies glow golden yellow, but I see no prompt. is there something I need to do when that appears?

after they are killed*

[safe grotto]

Should I be catching all the critters I can?

[dapper rain]

steal ode intelligence objective, the casters are the enemies that carry it. i fifuge something to do with that

[empty cargo]

how do you use the faction favor items

[dapper rain]

there is a buy|sell when purchase menu of faction

[empty cargo]

ty

[gaunt charm]

im still very early on, so I assume ill unlock that later?

[sharp axle]

[dapper rain]

early i find its useful, as time goes on i engage with it less cuz get totems from freeing from cages and scrap runes for harmony
i keep ~7 agari and the sieges on regular rotation and make point to go out of way.

if u dont farm agari regularily for harmony from runes then yeah charm what you can tolerate but no need to burn out on the farm cuz of cages
ducks rats squirels i find to use most

[keen river]

the only ones you should probably go out of your way to charm later on are rats, which iirc can't be freed from cages

[dapper rain]

its an objective during the missions you pickup from trees.
Spectral sight light up objectives and puzzles, chests loot etc

[umbral egret]

Okay so archer gameplay is very fun. What pact is everyone running with bows?

[dapper rain]

good time to look for rats is when goto sieges the towns and outskirts or the NE swamp.. (while doing bear tale and taking out gruul seeker for harmony while picking off the graveyard foir mockery weapons...and getting stag spawn etc..lol im very much 2 birds one stone)

[dapper rain]

what do u have? do u arrow rain or shoot?

[umbral egret]

Little of both. Arbearer, Tethryn, Garren, and Sirin. I'll have Wolf tomorrow too!

But I'm willing to farm out whatever haha

[dapper rain]

-bromius enables arrow rain. He makes everything comfy(bias)
-teth big numbers,
-grace garren i find strong generally stampede can wipe a camp and bows have a CDR grace on smite totem(seem to not have the other ones) but to take advantage of his kit lifesteal on bow is ideal.

• sirin (im melee bias) think its useful to keep trickster assassin scrapper mentality becasue 2/3 abilites enable backstab, 1shot > charged shot

-oscelda is arguable the better bow pact cuz headshots all day easy 2K and can use cleave rat .saunter thru a medusa garden and shatter sinecure statues

-and realise from all that garren is the one whos pact ability gains the most straight forwd bonus
moras hand the smoulder passive, ember you dont gert inerupted when charging shots, 4th full grace ~1k

ode tempest shield and good arrow rain syngeize with grace scaling finishers an not getting interupted whencharing has a push back

[dapper rain]

generally relog if bird is broken. hope u got it goin

[dapper rain]

sometimes sleeps by other anscestors

[umbral egret]

I didn't super love Sirin so this makes sense. I'll have to snag Oscelda and give it a shot. Garren is actually my favorite pact so far so I'm definitely okay hearing this.

[woeful star]

You know what I'd really like?a survival/swarm/endless mode (war mode?) where you just fight an endless wave of enemies, because this game really has become my 'turn off your brain and play while watching a video or podcast' kinda game that I haven't had since the early dynasty warriors games, warframe was that for a while but I'm more into fantasy than sci-fi and so far warframe has been everything I could have hoped for. And it's still SO EARLY into its life,

[opaque grotto]

what am I supposed to do here

[woeful star]

Explore

[opaque grotto]

I did

i activated 4 purple things

i think

[woeful star]

Did any new mushroom bridges or pathways appear?

[umbral egret]

Is this just flavor text indicating my arrows now deal more stagger or is Camphor arrows something mechanical I need to know about?

[opaque grotto]

there is a lot

[woeful star]

I'm away from game ATM so I'd have to go back and look, I believe it's supposed to make new mushrooms/bridges appear so you can get to a room or chest you couldn't before

[spark star]

Flavor text

[umbral egret]

Thanks!

[opaque grotto]

thanks

[haughty vault]

Hi! Does anyone have a spare login key or know where I can get one? I already have an account on Preludios, but I'd like to start from scratch. Thanks ^^

[tidal vigil]

Does anyone know how to solve this room? I've explored the rest of the crypt and my bird is in this room - the tomb above is not one that opens

Oh nevermind bird was bugged out and it was in another room I didn't check

[dapper rain]

probaly irrelevant now but get to same elevation (if that is the bromius fable and being blcoked from shooting the plug)

[umbral egret]

I think I'm gonna have to farm out Blitzel. I like a Grace/Courage build more than a Grace/Spirit build.

[jolly dome]

I have never done the glades arena thing yet for exp, do any glades entrances have the swamp or is it only particular ones?

[whole hinge]

Im a little lost how do I access the new character customization?

[jolly dome]

it's the same NPC that lets you change gear appearance

[dapper rain]

have u done the brewer of hews fable?

[whole hinge]

I got it Ty guys

[timid urchin]

Ode flintlock weapons

[dapper rain]

any glades
reaper's entrance is the highest level currently so its desiarable level wise but can kill him on way out for a bonus
3* tales for destroying moaners increases odds of the room spawn because there is a moeaner in the endless tile

[jolly dome]

oh I see, so it's a bit RNG for the arena to spawn in the dungeon?

[dapper rain]

yea procedural generated tileset. a good writeup the image is actually a good example for endless becasue the D C connector is similar thin hallway so tgheres only a few that endless can generate.
helps to know where not to look

[jolly dome]

oh I see, thanks, will read it and give it a try

[dapper rain]

most of it just time spent and learning what deadends look like far away (volumetiric detail off)

[umbral jay]

Bros I might be dumb but everything is one-shotting me. What is the best way of farming armor? I got a couple pieces from the stag quest but no other pieces have dropped.

[spark matrix]

The avakot has items but no drop chance is there beter refrence avaliable

[clear vessel]

stag armor fragments drop from the vadagar stag, avakot wiki can explain all of this better than i can off the top of my head tho

[cobalt tangle]

Doing fables or tales will get you basic armor that's better than starting armor.

[glacial lintel]

How do I play

[cold idol]

Are Orgenall wolve's crashing the game? I mean outside of Endless. That's what I'm seeing. If so, why don't the devs just disable the ability because its F***** shit up. Maybe this has a higher likelihood with Organ like Endless. Either way, do something DEVS!

[umbral jay]

How do I pick those up>?

[clear vessel]

pick up quests for your faction at trees

[clear vessel]

nope. but i do know they can jam the organ elevator if they get stuck on where it should descend

[glacial lintel]

No I’m sorry I just read about getting an access code

[clear vessel]

oh

[glacial lintel]

Thanks

[clear vessel]

uh, twitch streams by DE and the subreddit has a mega threadfor sharing the codes

[glacial lintel]

Not sure which founders pack to get lol

[clear vessel]

u can unlock the default classes to try them (or since u dont have the gaame, see the videos of the class skills) before deciding

[glacial lintel]

Thank you

[visual raven]

After making my account it says "Your account is not yet registered for Soulframe Preludes. Please await an invitation email before downloading." Does anyone know how to fix this?

[neat citrus]

Paragon, duh

[willow thorn]

buy a founder pack, get a code or wait for invite in email

[visual raven]

ok thank you

[pulsar tundra]

Idk if this is specified, but if you say share in recruiting thats means everyone shares let's say an organ, and if you don't say share then you only mean one organ or three depending how much you have left.

[willow thorn]

should make a channel for code requests. get the begging out of here

[haughty vault]

🥲

[half talon]

**How do I get access to Soulframe? **

• Sign up: Soulframe.com and be invited via the Wednesday giveaway (2k codes every week)
• Purchase a Founder's Pack, which will give you spare codes for your friends.
• Watch a dev stream or Envoy Hour via Twitch

On occasion, Envoys will share codes in ⁠the channels here, but we ask that you do not beg.
You can also check social media, Reddit, or streamers who may run giveaways.
Attention: Selling/buying of codes is a violation of Soulframe's Terms of Service. Do not engage with third-party trades.

[half talon]

Not sure why this isn't on every channel, but alas...resolving that now...

[haughty vault]

Not everyone is lucky enough to try the game, please be understanding D: It's difficult to get keys

[half talon]

I do understand, but there are many ways to get a key without bogging the chats here with requests.

[haughty vault]

Ok, thanks so much

[clear vessel]

oh also unlike exaclibur prime, these founder sets in soulframe ,are just normal primes and will be available later down the line (kinda makes sense tho, since for warframe founders, there was no guarentee the game would thrive to such a degree, )

[weak pewter]

is controller finally fully compatible

[pulsar tundra]

So not only did I miss exaclibur prime but I don't get anything similar here

[clear vessel]

on the plus side you also wont' be missing the soulframe equivalent of excal prime

[jagged bluff]

Quick question, is it currently online only?

[clear vessel]

yeah unfortunately, game would make for a decent offline experience too it feels like

[knotty moon]

The Paragon is most likely as close as you'll get.
(Founders will have to replicate fragments and share it for other players to obtain it, no info yet on the method to do that)

[solar birch]

I started playing the game today and noticed that there were bundles available from Zenith with Thawtide items, which I looked up and found was an event that ended January 30th. Is that the Soulframe model, to sell event items later on for Arcs in the store, or is this a special case? Just curious about how limited-time the items are

[knotty moon]

Those items were always sold for Arcs, even during the event (that said they probably should not be available now).
What was available during the event, that will return next year, is the Armor, Talismans, and Guide skins.
There were also weapons obtainable from the event, but those have been kept available from other sources in-game.

[solar birch]

Got it, thank you :) were they obtainable for free during the event? Or exclusively with Arcs

[knotty moon]

Anything but the Motifs (account avatar thingy) was available for free.

[solar birch]

Gotcha

[viral void]

Hi, you must be really annoyed that people are asking this question. But I'd like to know how to get a key. Every time I see them in the Steam forum comments, they're already taken, and I've been waiting for mine in my email for several Fridays now without success.
Thanks in advance if anyone can point me to another method to get one.

[solar birch]

you can also get access through twitch drops or by purchasing a founder's pack, from what I've heard there's a lot of people on the waitlist and they only give out 2,000 keys every Wednesday

[knotty moon]

#gameplay-discussion message
Next devstream should be on the 10th with Envoy Hour, but it has yet to be announced.

[viral void]

Cool, thanks guys, sure i'll pick one of the packs, it's my plan B, but i'm afraid the game being so much soulslike for my taste

in that case i prefer to keep supporting warframe with bundles and so

[knotty moon]

Despite the name there is not really that much similarity with Souls games.
It is more of a Witcher 3/Sekiro/Warframe hybrid.

[viral void]

Can live with that 🙂 thanks for the advice, see ya

[dull ocean]

For Mora's flame is there any point in putting points into the hungry flame since it requires to be on fire which is "rare" in all honesty

or do the abilities like setting the ground on fire, "ability 1" do the "fire damage" for you as you're standing in fire.

[clear vessel]

Don't most flame runes have your weapon hits ignite enemies

(Idk if the, bakers something, sidearm magic weapon for the faction ignites enemies but it feels wrong if it didn't given that you're chucking fireballs)

[dull ocean]

The ability for a damage increase is when you the player is on "fire". Or at least that's what I'm understanding based on the desciption of the passive ability.

[clear vessel]

Ah that sounds way more situational, bummer

Unless one of the 3 pact abilities does it, but I haven't gotten it yet

Can't wait to though, (just a few more days of max standing grind)

[narrow condor]

is Midrath the only map that we will get?

or did they mention something about other locations

[spark star]

It goes without saying we'll eventually get new areas. We don't know how long from now that'll be though.

[candid valley]

Used to be that way, but they buffed it a couple preludes ago so your 2nd ability and self damage from your 3rd also counts as you on fire/recieving fire damage

[turbid vapor]

We probably will be able to acess skycastles at some point or even the moon maybe? Both look pretty exciting in the current skybox

[narrow condor]

okiess

[turbid vapor]

But not read or heard anything about that yet just my assumption

I already wrote would be cool if they do the transition between skycastles and midrath like in crimson desert when u skydive back to the ground

But there no fall animation yet when u fall from bigger heights so i guess they not even have a plan for that yet.

[clear vessel]

Nope we will get (literal) content islands down the line.

[clear vessel]

Using ode tech to navigate the world feels kinda odd

Like it'd make more sense if there was, midrath/alca originated methods of transport.

[somber haven]

Eventually we will get to join the ode to go to other planets, and on our way we will meet John Warframe, thus beginning the story of Warframe

[finite stone]

In Envoy Hour, Geoff explained that they're in the early exploration stages for other isles after Midrath (the tutorial island) is complete. Steve has also mentioned player boats before. There's also the Skytower/Citadel, which is technically not on the isle of Midrath so honourable mention there haha

[narrow condor]

Okies heheh

thats nice, more areas xD

[ebon wraith]

maybe the skytower will be a raid of sorts

[lethal comet]

Bit of a noobie question here, need help with letters and numbers and what they mean 🙂
Pic was copy/pasted from the patch notes
Rank, Art,Virt. Required, Stagger and Smite are fine

Damage (type) - also self explanatory, though I am not sure if it has any in game value right now
Attunement - here I struggle - in this case it says 2x Grace and 2x Spirit. Meaning it scales from both? Can I use this particular weapon with Spirit "only"?
Attack/Charged Attack- how much damage I do, however which number applies? I suppose the second one. What does the first number mean tho?

[ebon wraith]

you need to meet the 14 grace attunement first then can use spirit to boost the damage

for such attunements you need to meet the base requirement and after that boost it even more with any of two virtues

full grace or hybrid build

[lethal comet]

Oh, think I get it now
So I could use this as either full Grace build (as that will overcap the req.) or in a "full" spirit build (as long as I get 14 Grace somehow).
And Courage is out of the question unless I - hypotheticaly - use a Joinery (and even then it's gonna be weaker)

[ebon wraith]

courage would be pointless for this weapon

and attack/charged attack is light attack and heavy attack damage

[lethal comet]

Why two numbers tho
Is Attack 65? Or is it 65+39 from somewhere
Thinking about it, is it 65 from Grace + 39 from Spirit?

[ebon wraith]

ah you mean the extra... its the boost from virtue

the damage in (xx) is what you get from virtue scaling

65 is base damage and +39 is from virtue

[vagrant kayak]

65 is your total damage, the (39) is from scaling

[lethal comet]

Omg, I feel dumb. Makes sense now
I kinda forgot how weapons work and that they probably have their own BASE damage 😄
Thank you, thank you, appreciate it 😄

[scenic solar]

Alright done with the north organ and central organ, now to make my way to south organ, where I barely spend any time and farm that for the next few days

[amber bolt]

Trying to level up Precklies but its damage is so low XD

[umbral egret]

Yeah even on my max grace it just tickles lol

[knotty moon]

Just to clarify, the numbers in parenthesis contains all bonuses, Virtue, weapon rank, and Joinery (though only Virite and Gildaur).
Didn't test temporary bonuses myself, but those should show up in that count too.

[amber bolt]

I don't have the max grace Prism, only Oro's Ranger or Veru's Assassin, so more often than not I just end up dealing 1 damage when using it XD
I do try and get a sneak attack using it when I meet enemies in the open, it seems like it gets some decent exp that way

[knotty moon]

Could try fighting mockeries, and switching to Precklies before absorbing the ghost.

[umbral egret]

Oh true, get an andless arena going and swap before the absorb

[dark sage]

This might be a long shot, but does anyone have any really great controller settings, etc that they like that are different from the default controller settings? Or maybe there is a good video that covers those things? I prefer the xbox controller - just looking t see if anyone has a set way to have the buttons mapped.

[whole thorn]

Js got soulframe, haven’t had time to play yet but I was wondering if there’s fishing yet? I love fishing in warframe gotta know if I can fish here to

[misty estuary]

not yet

[whole thorn]

🙁 thanks tho 😆

[quartz stone]

When I'm equipping totems or runes on a weapon, what does the number in the top right of the totem/rune display signify?

[mild robin]

this has to be a joke. also, ive crafted falx too so thats 2 more fragments

[wet tulip]

the bow is a 3star rare though

[mild robin]

but a 7:1 ratio??

thats a bit much

[wet tulip]

bad rng

[dire helm]

I've done in excess of 50 stags overall now, and only have 1 of 2 gath fragments I need. Trust me, it can be worse.

I'll probably end up doing well over a hundred of them by the time I get my second drop.

[misty estuary]

it has 3 items in the pool not just the two

[mild robin]

fair. still painful tho lol

[misty estuary]

Tell that to the people who farmed Wazzard/the armor set before H4 lmao, The grind for Avex right now is nowhere close to it

I seen a few people with over 100 runs before they actually buffed the rates for it and still only have 1 frag

[mild robin]

yeah im still pretty new to the game and 100 runs... my condolences

[spark matrix]

Does anyone know if i use 2 of the same totems with a rune that gives an extra slot can i get 2 of the same effect?

[halcyon thicket]

You cant

[spark matrix]

Thats unfortunate

[rose condor]

me waiting for another 30 min

[spark matrix]

Thanks for the help

[rose condor]

everflame

[spark matrix]

My plan was ember raught with 2 the sloshings for a nice bitta throw damage

[rose condor]

That king won't rest until he has the complete set.

[void marten]

Did we get the doggo in this update?

[smoky crater]

nop

[void marten]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-berserk-in-the-rain-gif-18269717237211287247

[modern basin]

How do you exit game when you want a break?

[smoky crater]

Go to the menu, then top right

There's a door icon

[modern basin]

How to menu?

[smoky crater]

Open with Esc, map, journal, inventory buttons

[modern basin]

Ty!!

[lunar atlas]

its the new erstroot

[tame trout]

Hello, I want to test this game, and I want to know If there's some way to get a code? I really want to try It

[vagrant kayak]

You can check the pinned message in this channel

[meager tree]

How many virtue points can we get to a virtue via a pact?

Is it 10?

[spare badge]

6

[meager tree]

Thanks bud

[weak silo]

Is there any way to zoom out/adjust field of view?

[spare badge]

Graphics, under in-game settings.

[weak silo]

Thanks! I looked around but must have missed it, 69 is a good max

[spare badge]

Naw, it's a bit too low.

[void marten]

https://tenor.com/view/alt-f4-gojo-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-discord-gif-15613996490745970448

[celest sorrel]

when soulframe was first being discussed a few years ago i thought it was a huge meme and a joke. when prelude 7 dropped and i get a key for it i felt like gol d roger when he said the one piece is real

[modern basin]

💀😂

[patent gale]

hey im new, is it possible to know a bit more about the gameplay loop? Is there a lot of content for the alpha?

[weak silo]

What are the gold floating jinglebells? Like the on in the pensive tower

[lavish vault]

I have a curious question.
I was running Wyld Oscelda full spirit trying to level it to max and there was only one animal. Now I'm running Garren Rood on a Grace/Spirit build and now there are all these animals.
My overall power is now 98, with Wyld Oscelda was 83. Does that have anything to do with the amount of animals?

[halcyon thicket]

It's daily login, if you skip a day the animals reset

[lavish vault]

Oh yeah? Cool

[placid condor]

For the Tethren pact, does Fellust (first ability) ONLY work with melee like it says in the text or will it work on bows and staves?

[void marten]

Was the river pearl spawn rate incresed?

[smoky crater]

somewhat recently yeah

[void marten]

Also works with ranged weapons

[placid condor]

Hell yeah, thank you!

[void marten]

I think, don't know if it was changed

[placid condor]

Hope they update the text and not remove it working on ranged.

[void marten]

But, with flyblades and bows is really fun

[placid condor]

I'll give that a try lol

leveling my feyblades from Founders now lol

[void marten]

Yeah it works

[orchid pelican]

DM'D

[graceful jay]

when will mounts be a thing?

[smoky crater]

sometime this year is the plan

[hybrid pewter]

Your bird keep getting reset to default?

[brazen sparrow]

If it's the cardinals, this happens, yes. 'tis a bug.

[visual radish]

There isnt an overral power indicator
Do you mean your total armor?

[jolly topaz]

how to you see how much standing you have daily aavalable

[knotty moon]

There is no in-game indicator, other than not being able to gain any more rep.

[jolly topaz]

ah okay

they should add that lol

[placid condor]

So.. yesterday I had the Vadagar Bear pop up. The moment I activated my Song of Growth with the Bromius pact (3rd ability - grace) the bear legit just left and despawned.

Is this a hidden interaction or did he just decide to live and fight another day?

[lavish vault]

This number I mean

[mild robin]

sorry if this is a dumb question, but why does this climb from 28 to 43 when i swap from sirin to orangall, which also isnt even leveled fully? i also have the same amount of upgrades in virtues in both pacts

[sly escarp]

That's your armour stats

[daring jacinth]

It means your armor bonus points have dropped and you'll have to re-spec your pacts perk points again. Check to see if your Orengall's perk points are distributed.

[lavish vault]

ok. So it's not power. Cool

[daring jacinth]

Also, did you change loadouts or simply swap pacts?

[lavish vault]

I've tried several different combinations.

[mild robin]

oh so just reset arts and do the same exact stuff again and thatll raise it?

[wet tulip]

When you swapping pacts you need to exit the load out screen and reenter. Idk why it doesnt register the new pact you swapped to

[daring jacinth]

Is that a new bug from this last patch?

[wet tulip]

From what i remember it always was like this

[daring jacinth]

Or has it been around and I never noticed? lol

[daring jacinth]

I'd first check to see if they're already in place, but do what @wet tulip said and exit your loadout/equipment screen then go back to see if that fixes the numbers.

[wet tulip]

Its very easy to notice too. Upgrade 2 pacts fully with all virtue perks and swap between them and you see the virtue values drop

and then it goes back to normal when you reenter the loadout screen

[misty estuary]

Been here since atleast P12

[wet tulip]

yeah i noticed it since P9 xDDD

but its not harmful since it gets refreshed every time you exit the loadout screen

[daring jacinth]

I never noticed, I'm always running back and forth from the tent to vermina messing around with stitching and stuff (Old Monster/Fashion Hunter here).

[sinful wigeon]

Which virtue do yall build mora's hand for?

[wet tulip]

i think grace for the fire sword throw?

im not sure but i think the courage and spirit abilities dont scale or something ( other then spirit cooldown)

[misty estuary]

spirits cooldown doesnt really feel like it does much at all if anything

[wet tulip]

in cogah yeah

[misty estuary]

In normal mode for me too lol

But yes the fire sword is grace scaled

[wet tulip]

yeah i mean the spirit and courage abilities dont seem to scale

[daring jacinth]

Igne Mora?

[misty estuary]

The #3 for Mora

[wet tulip]

no the mora's hand pact ability

[daring jacinth]

Gotcha, when you said fire sword I though you meant the actual weapon.

[robust crater]

Is the gameplay always slow? Seems like nothing exciting is happening for the first couple of hours

[blissful flax]

Hey, I'm new I was wondering how can I get a key for this game, I played Warframe and this game looks awesome, maybe someone can help me with that, I really want to play It.

[frigid spoke]

#gameplay-discussion message

[blissful flax]

Thanks.

[mild robin]

when i activate cogah, is it on indefinitely or does it have a timer? i know that it turns off if you die or if you relog but is there a timer if youre just ingame?

[full hearth]

Cogah lasts until you die or act like a coward would

[daring jacinth]

Unless it's been changed with the last patch I'm pretty sure it's active until death or re-log, no time as far as I remember

[mild robin]

what does the latter mean? leaving a bossfight after starting it?

[misty estuary]

3 hour cap

[full hearth]

Initiating a fight with Agari and running away

[mild robin]

awesome, thanks yall!

[lethal tundra]

Got the new Bow and it's under way.

Though i'm still reforging my old ones. The Glade do not drop Quicksilver for me.

[cobalt current]

can i help me friend with bear in main mission if i made it?

[lethal tundra]

@cobalt current yes you can.

[cobalt current]

when i try to join to my friend i get information "Unable to join.the objective has been completed"

so they change it i think

[plucky fractal]

When you rank up a faction, if you have more faction XP than you need does it carry over? Or does it all disappear? Like if you only need 10,000 and you have 12,500, does it reset you back to 0 or to 2,500?

[wet tulip]

pretty sure if you reach the amount to rank up you stop getting more

until you rank up

[placid condor]

I believe so. When I turned in the faction "coins" to hit the next rank up, it gave me a popup asking if I was sure I wanted to turn the "coin" in as I only needed 50 xp to reach the next rank.
When I turned it in, I only got the 50 like it warned, not the 65.

@plucky fractal !

[jolly topaz]

is there a time the daily standings reset?

[knotty moon]

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[jolly topaz]

ah okay, bril ty

[sweet dagger]

Can u get the pacts that are available in the store?

*by playing

[sly escarp]

Yes, everything of mechanical importance in the game can be earned for free by playing, except the Founders gear which will be added to get for free at a later date.

[sweet dagger]

Alrighty, are the pacts in the story?

[sly escarp]

Some are

Some are earned by ranking up with factions

[sweet dagger]

Okii

Tyvm

[sly escarp]

Regardless what you'll get is a fragment, which you can then craft into the finished pact

You're welcome!

[sweet dagger]

One more question, is anything apart from slots worth it in the store? Idk what to spend my 3.5k arcs on

[misty estuary]

Yes, 100% the only thing atm worth

After you get a total of 12 pact slots and id say 15 wep slots you can use some on moonsteel thread(Transmog item)

[sweet dagger]

Okay... I won't spend anything yet ig cuz i am not far into the game

[misty estuary]

Yeah, Id say buy slots as you need them tbh

[sweet dagger]

Idk how to get weapons

[misty estuary]

You get armor and weapon fragments from killing bosses/seiges/organ

For now, Press G and follow your birb so you can unlock your nightfold cast

[sweet dagger]

Oki

[misty estuary]

You cant really craft anything witihout them anyway

[knotty moon]

12?
Preparing for the new Pact?

[misty estuary]

Fencer, yeah, Not sure when its coming but its coming

ingame model is alreay made

[sweet dagger]

So pacts are subclasses?

[misty estuary]

Pact are what control your abilities

You get 3 abilites with each pact, 1 that scales with courage, 1 that scales with spirit and 1 that scales withgrace

[sweet dagger]

Ooh

[misty estuary]

You can switch between them as long as you arent in combat

[knotty moon]

There is no real concept of class in here, while Pact are the closest, what they control is your spell set and passives.

[sweet dagger]

I have 4 tho

[sly escarp]

You should only have 3 activated abilities (arcanics) with each pact

[sweet dagger]

Wait so people just use whatever they want without focusing on the 3 stats?

[sweet dagger]

I mean pacts

[sly escarp]

Ah

[sweet dagger]

I started with 4

[sly escarp]

Paragon Founder?

[sweet dagger]

Yes

[robust crater]

Is the gameplay always slow? Seems like nothing exciting is happening for the first couple of hours

[knotty moon]

The stats do have to be managed, but that is done by Prism, not Pacts.
And even then, you can switch at any time.

[sly escarp]

Paragon comes with Improved Versions of the 3 starter pacts

[sweet dagger]

Idk what those are

[sly escarp]

Stat allocation ratios, basically

[sweet dagger]

Oh, i only have the base green one then ig

[sweet dagger]

Ooh

[sly escarp]

Should have 4

[sweet dagger]

Yeah, the 3 founders and green base

[sly escarp]

Oh, base Oscelda and the 3 Wylds

Got it

[vagrant kayak]

Chatting to the other Enclaves will get you the other base Prisms

[sweet dagger]

Idk what those are

[sly escarp]

How you assign your stats

[sweet dagger]

?

[knotty moon]

🤔
Starting out it should run you through a tutorial questline, that is supposed to be the hook.

[sly escarp]

A prism is basically a ratio of how much Courage, Spirit, and Grace you have based on your total Virtue Points

[vagrant kayak]

Oh are you brand new? In that case you'll find out after the tutorial

[sly escarp]

So as you level up, you get more Virtue Points

And then the prism assigns them for you

[robust crater]

I feel like I am past the tutorial but overall game play seems slow, running from here to there, not much action

[sweet dagger]

Yes, i started the game today and beat the first boss, now me and my ex are trying to find out what to do :p

[sly escarp]

It's a slower game than many, there's some activities and quests around to discover though

[knotty moon]

It is based on exploration, so it might come across that way.
Most stuff you have to find.
And to be fair some stuff is a bit too obscure now, once you start to get how the game works there is plenty to do.
Though keep in mind this is an Alpha, so some stuff is janky, and there is mostly a focus on farming stuff.

[surreal goblet]

What Dexell said, also given its a pre alpha theres a lot of skeleton design present in the game missing flesh

[robust crater]

Hmm fair, I'm not playing the game down I was genuinely wondering because I find myself a little bored with the combat and it just seems too easy for now

[safe pelican]

Whats the difference between the unsula and rostrum performance wise?

[amber bolt]

Entered the Circade without realising that I triggered an ambush before getting in the coffin. Luckily it disappeared after a while.
Opening a Bug Tracking too, sent the video here just to spread awareness that it can happen and that it does solve itself in like a minute

[safe pelican]

Also, can I still get thawtide weapons/armor right now?

[amber bolt]

Also lmao, I had a "search 3 coffins" quest and they all happened to be in this small room at the entrance!

[sly escarp]

Different movesets

[safe pelican]

whats better

[sly escarp]

Rostrum is better for throwing, Unsula attack faster

[safe pelican]

Can I get the rostrum through farming rn? Or is it a thawtide thing?

[fringe tendon]

Is there a easier way to check your faction standing or do I have to keep going back to the enclave?

[knotty moon]

Completing a quick T1 tale should show your total.

[sly escarp]

Should be able to!

[knotty moon]

Maestro and Rostrum will now drop from Bannerets, Kabocha, and The Mendicant King
This is from the patch notes, Avakot.org might have more sources.

[edgy spear]

Honest Question: Can Spirit Builds have a DPS build or are they mainly just support based?

[safe pelican]

Where do i get it from?

[sly escarp]

Bannerets, Kabocha, and Mendicant King

[knotty moon]

You can build Magick weapons to be fairly damaging, it is not something I usually use so I can't advice you on how, but it is possible.
-# Also The Paragon, but that can only be gained by the Founders pack right now.

Hybrid builds are also a thing, but mostly I would suggest them at high MR so you have a easier time meeting requirements and scaling stuff better.
-# Also need rank 4 with a Faction right now, so not something readily available.

[edgy spear]

Bought founders
I planned on going hybrid Courage And Spirit for a dps mage build but only r3 with 1 faction atm

[knotty moon]

Yeah, that will give you options.

[edgy spear]

OK well Hopefully De will get us some Courage based magic weapons so i can make this work since i need Courage for more damage

[knotty moon]

Main: https://wiki.avakot.org/Tessard
Sidearm: https://wiki.avakot.org/Odiac
Armor: https://wiki.avakot.org/Mendicant_King_(Set)
This should all scale with both Courage and Spirit.

Might need some Courage Arts and Talisman to meet the requirements though.

[edgy spear]

need to go get the basic courage virtue i started spirit

[knotty moon]

The basic one you can get just by visiting the Enclave.

[waxen ferry]

hi guys, new in the server, just wanted to ask a quick question bcs i think im having a lil problem with the walk/sprint thing

[visual radish]

Using tethren or something?

Or do you have an outdated info of courage affecting overrall damage?

[waxen ferry]

isnt there 3 paces in the game as walk, run & sprint or just walk & run?? i swear i remember i could sprint faster than the run

[knotty moon]

If you are on controller you should be able to walk, otherwise just jog and sprint.

[languid escarp]

there is a keybind to walk on keyboard

[waxen ferry]

im con controller but i was able to sprint too but now i can figure how

[knotty moon]

There is? 👀

[halcyon thicket]

Dont think so

[languid escarp]

push in left stick to run

[waxen ferry]

i must pressed something on the keyboard but cant figure what xD

[stray ice]

how do we handover the new faction tokens for faction experience? I can't seem to see a dialog option for that

[halcyon thicket]

Sell tab

[knotty moon]

Open the faction store, and switch to the "Sell" tab.

[stray ice]

saw it now, thanks

[edgy spear]

If the wiki is out of date MB, just saw that damage is affected by courage on abils

[visual radish]

Which wiki?

Also each virtue now affects the overrall scaling with the relevant color coded ability

[knotty moon]

In theory only Courage abilities (the red ones) should scale with Courage.

[visual radish]

Yeah red with red
Blue with blue
Green with green

[waxen ferry]

yeah, thats clear, but how to sprint faster that the run??

[languid escarp]

that's all u get lol

[waxen ferry]

reset the game and it works again...

weird

[knotty moon]

Bugframe.

[waxen ferry]

dunno, i must pressed something like toggle walk or smth

[edgy spear]

Oh Well then i def want hybrid courage and Spirit cause im running Ode Tempest

and i want max damage which is red and green abils

[visual radish]

Also the correct wiki is avakot dot org

Any other wiki like fandom or what have you will be outdated or abandoned

[edgy spear]

https://soulframe.wiki.fextralife.com/Ode+Tempest
was what i was using My b

[knotty moon]

Avakot.org is whitelisted, not need for dot.

[languid escarp]

yeah that one is hot garbage

[safe grotto]

What sort of Totems should I be keeping? Currently I enjoy using a bow if that helps ?

[languid escarp]

avakot one is really good

[halcyon thicket]

Keep 3 copies of each

Toggle compatible to reduce clutter

[safe grotto]

oh wow that makes it easier lol

[visual radish]

I always forget if it is or not

[safe grotto]

So I"m assuming it's just rng on what type of stats will be on the Totems when you capture them?

[knotty moon]

No, stats are fixed. (also rarity)

[visual radish]

There's a set number of them per weapon

[edgy spear]

but i got think i got the build right for now 1 more rank till i get the courage spirit mix virtue to maximize my build "Hopefully"

[safe grotto]

I noticed that Scourge Rat has an icon next to with better stats over another scourge rat ?

[visual radish]

You upgraded that one

The upgraded one separates from other copies

[safe grotto]

oh haha yeah possibly lol

[visual radish]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Totems/table

[safe grotto]

ok awesome thanks

[visual radish]

That's the list of totems if you feel like checking

[proven root]

can i check faction standing, without having to go back to the faction?
aside from finishing tales

[visual radish]

Not yet

[languid escarp]

not in game, there is an app though

[wide pike]

made a new friend today (its a bug, i killed wazzard, went to camp, came back out and used a wevet seed to go to the tree nearest the northern organ, and it took dead wazzard with, lol)

[knotty moon]

Might want to post it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788.

[fair monolith]

Basker's Wrest scales off of Courage more than spirit right?
so i should apply a Blessed by Mora to get most value out of it as opposed to Blessed by Iridis?
the build im using it in is going heavy into Courage

[knotty moon]

Scales equally, but if you are leaning on Courage that sounds like a good plan.

[languid escarp]

Odiac is easier to meet the spirit req for a courage build

[fair monolith]

doing a thematic build, sorta, not relevant for meta discussion, just wanted to know which Blessed would be best to apply

[languid escarp]

yeah i like the red better too

actually the musta reduced the cost, was 16 when i tried it

[fair monolith]

And, now, we can guaranteed get one of each Blessed by for all weapons in all factions, even if expensive?

[languid escarp]

yup

[knotty moon]

This hotfix:

Basker’s Wrest: 17 Spirit to 9 Spirit and 8 Courage.

[edgy spear]

Specific gameplay question: enemies that are open to finishers do they take increased damage for the duration?

[knotty moon]

🤔
I don't think so, not sure though.

[stray ice]

they should in theory have whatever finisher damage multipliers applied to them, which scales with grace?

[edgy spear]

Curious cause i was fighting nimrod and got 1 finisher window and proceeded to "send him to jesus" during the window which i wasn't doing nearly that much damage before the window

[stray ice]

well, if it's the discharged one, I found the most fun way to deal with him is to send him to "zeus instead" haha

[knotty moon]

Personally my favorite method is the woodchipper.

[stray ice]

through luring and then kicking I assume. I must try it

[smoky crater]

can't lie so far my favorite way of dealing with nimrod is just no abilities, no runes, just you and your sword

think it's because i've just smacked him in to the ground in 2 seconds for a good few hundred times probably

[edgy spear]

it was normal i was doing the collector event, i just put him in finisher zone once as a spirit build and proceeded to go from half+ to 0 during the window

[safe grotto]

Does the star level represent reward\difficulty? I'm assuming the number is your level?

[smoky crater]

number is enemy level

both the enemy level and the star amount affect the rep gained

[visual radish]

Stars is more so the "mission length"

[smoky crater]

1 star = 1 stage, 2 stars = 2 stages, 3 stars = 3-4 stages

[safe grotto]

Ah ok thank you both 😄

[knotty moon]

Star means length of the tale, generally we call them T1,T2, and T3, higher tier has more rewards, both in loot and reputation.
Level also raises the reputation reward, but not loot (in bracket of 10 levels).
Also if the tale end in a dungeon (only happens in T3) it gives double the reputation.

[misty estuary]

2 stars can be 2-3

[smoky crater]

that's new

[misty estuary]

It was happening to me in p12(?)

[smoky crater]

ngl only ever seen 2 stage ones

[wide pike]

didnt know it was a thing and just thought it was funny, but i made a post haha

[safe grotto]

I noticed when I capture a totem sometimes it has a number in the top right corner? But when I look at them in my inventory I don't see that number

[knotty moon]

I think it is also visible in the Totem UI, it has no meaning as far as I know.

[safe grotto]

good enough 😄

[smoky crater]

it just tells the animal the totem is from

iirc

[edgy spear]

Why is the Bear boss such a hard fight? or am i just bad

[misty estuary]

i died 17 times to it before Ir ealized after the QTE he inflincts DoT damage

[knotty moon]

Entering that fight underequipped is a common pitfall.
-# The fact that it makes tales not appear while it is on makes it worse.
One way to make it a bit easier is to go around the map and fill out the location names, those give out a lot of MR.
https://wiki.avakot.org/Locations

[safe grotto]

Is there a way to see your faction rep without actually going to the faction leader?

[smoky crater]

doing a faction tale

it's on the summary screen at the end

[safe grotto]

ok because when I complete one it says 10000\10000 does that mean I'm maxed with them?

[smoky crater]

yep, gotta go rank up

[knotty moon]

You are ready for the rank up.

[safe grotto]

oh crap hahah I think I have been like that for awhile. Oh well 😛

Time to head back I guess 😛

Game needs auto run lol

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[edgy spear]

I found the world version and it was worse that the quest one and quest one bodied me. the almost undodgeable leap is ability to SPAM range attacks and worse some of its attacks are not telegraphed like jeez. I get im not good at this game but damn

[craggy cape]

When Dewelion go brr

without pot or idol too

[knotty moon]

Dewelion is uncapped right now.

[craggy cape]

feels incredible

[safe grotto]

Not sure how to complete this tower? I missed what the name of it was lol

[empty cargo]

the orgen is its name

[safe grotto]

ok thanks I'll look it up

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Guide:Organ_Allegro_(Speedrunning_the_Organ)
Despite the name it has a thorough explanation on how to complete each step.

[storm dust]

Whaaaa

[storm dust]

Is there any other weaps like that?

[craggy cape]

with idol

and fire rune active ofc

[empty cargo]

why do you have 47 grace? XD

[craggy cape]

orengall howl

[knotty moon]

It is the only one uncapped, most likely a bug.

[storm dust]

Imma do that after work, tethren be slapping trucks and buildings atp

[empty cargo]

which factions should i do next i have done kith of kings tho i havent gotten the other two starter pacts

[storm dust]

Imagine the boost from tethren’s green

And ramp up from its red

[craggy cape]

theyre all fun to try out @empty cargo. IMO Silent rose has a really fun aesthetic and grace builds are strong rn. Alcas has a cool aesthetic as well but I think spirit needs love

[storm dust]

I like rose’s tale end animation best

[empty cargo]

should i buy the other two pacts before i switch factions

[craggy cape]

I would buy at least moras hand

[empty cargo]

i have that im talking about the other two starter pacts Oscelda and Sirin

[storm dust]

Yes and no, alca still dont have its own pact so you cna skip the balls there and just buy 1 before heading to rose

[craggy cape]

if you have a bunch of extra rep, sure

if not, i think you can pick them up from the other factions as well

up to you really

[storm dust]

you can pick the other base pacts if you want

[knotty moon]

You can switch back at any time, so don't feel pressured to have to buy it now.

[empty cargo]

i dont have enough to buy the others atm

[knotty moon]

One thing you could do is switching to another faction, then switch back when you have a stack of tokens to turn in.

[empty cargo]

ima flip a coin for which faction to go to

[storm dust]

The token is such a game changer

Dont forget to use garden tp to save on them seeds

[empty cargo]

ima say aleas isn heads and rose is tails

rose it is

[empty cargo]

where is that ?

[glacial lintel]

Yeah I’m torn between pacts

[storm dust]

Go to nightfold, music, exit garden and itll spawn you in the middle point of each faction

[empty cargo]

im in this

[storm dust]

Just leave and itll tp you to middle of the map

Origin area at least

[clear vessel]

hah wonderful

[clear vessel]

oh they have different tale end animations?

[storm dust]

Yeaa

Strongman on kiths, kneeling alca, bird coming to you on rose

[clear vessel]

nice i never noticed

ah nice

[pulsar tundra]

Is there a bug with ode tempest, when using one of their ability in arena?

[empty cargo]

so what is the garden for?

[frigid spoke]

an ok effort to thank those of us for buying founder packages

[storm dust]

Garden is for those who buys founder packs to plant their seeds

Leave their name and stuff, just boasting stuff lmaoo

[empty cargo]

ah

[clear vessel]

and convenient fast travel

[clear vessel]

which one? if you mean map objects exploding from tempest 1, no i think that just happens

[toxic pilot]

whats the arena

[clear vessel]

glade tile set that spawns 20 waves of mockeries increasing from like 20 to level 60

[toxic pilot]

oh endless...or rather not so endless anymore

[clear vessel]

Mhm still like easily shoots ur stuff to level 20

[jolly dome]

banneret's in my territory

[timid urchin]

What if some pacts doubled up on vitues? Two courage one grace. Three courage even

[humble zodiac]

has anyone got the world tree on the island

??

[autumn finch]

Is mora supposed to dmg its user??

[humble zodiac]

is it the blue one?

[autumn finch]

I think its the explosion passive

[candid star]

Does reaching rank 3 and 4 just take a long time? I feel like I’ll be stuck grinding for a better prism for weeks- and kinda wish there was a quest or something to break it up if it’s gonna take that long

[frigid spoke]

Don't stand in the explosion/fire n you usually won't take damage, but it will hurt you by design

[humble zodiac]

tank it

[hexed spoke]

Its quick

Relatively I mean
Unless you struggle to cap daily

[daring jacinth]

To hit faction rank 4 the total of XP you'll need is 80,000. Doable in five days as long as you hit the daily total XP cap of 16,000 per day.

[somber pumice]

Been playing for two weeks and just jumped to my second enclave after getting everything from my first one. Doing missions on higher level areas awards more enclave reputation.

[gaunt charm]

is there a reason to forge a weapon you already have?

[lethal halo]

Used to be that it might be worth doing such a thing to have them attuned to different virtues, when all pips changed to the same virtue when you used a blessed joinery. Now, however now that is less significant a change ||(for the same releveling work)||, as it only adds one pip of the related virtue.

In short: Not currently, but change is regular around here. Only the first time you forge a weapon counts for XP.

[edgy dove]

is spectre strike not working on staves right now?

[clear vessel]

with a cap of 16k standing a day,

pretty sure you can get there in 3 to 4 days

[rich breach]

well there's something I didn't really expect.. the little three rung fences in and around some settlements fully allow sniping arrows in between the boards. No idea why but I just kinda assumed they'd be a solid mesh or something, heh

[pulsar tundra]

is the only benefit to these just to sell them to the fire king?

[rich breach]

all three enclaves take them

each enclave likes a certain one the best

[daring jacinth]

Baskbulb -> Alca's
Sineculum -> Kith
Sinner's Strategem -> Rose

[pulsar tundra]

ty

[clear vessel]

(another DE game) warframe had a funny interaction where, since the gate had small openings that let you shoot through it, you could also have a (since it uses hitscan) portal to just go through it instead of breaking it down like intended

[glacial lintel]

I got the sirin pack for now

When can you play together?
End game or before

[rich breach]

yeh, many shenanigans to be had in WF. Like I said, not sure why I expected different with the fences, must be influences of lesser games, hehe.

[rich breach]

There's a couple relatively short fables (story missions) you have to finish before grouping is available, iirc

[glacial lintel]

Thanks! Can we also unlock other pacts in this version?

[rich breach]

yup

takes some grind, but you can unlock them all (or in the case of the Wylds, buy them)

I mean, with capitalism camel, I guess you could technically buy them all if you felt SUPER spendy, heh

[clear vessel]

yeah 8 out of 11 of them

the 3 starters, the 3 omen beast ones (garen rood, orengal, bromius) and 2 faction pacts, Ode Tempest, and Mora's hand

the remaining 3 are wylds and can be crafted without spending money later down the line

[glacial lintel]

Oh wow so we can switch pacts just with one founders pack? Awesome

[rich breach]

You don't need to have a founder's pack at all, if you got a preludes access code. the founders stuff is just extra gear from the start.

[clear vessel]

what?

[glacial lintel]

You said i can unlock 7 other pacts just buying the 1 founders right?

[daring jacinth]

Yes, though you don't really need to buy founders, free players have unlocked all the pacts who've been around and grinded long enough

[rich breach]

You can unlock all of the non-wyld pacts in game, regardless of if you bought a founder's pack or not.

[glacial lintel]

Thanks a lot guys very excited

[daring jacinth]

Just remember, regardless if you bought founders or not, you still have to unlock the pacts and craft them, they won't be available from the get go unless you spend real money to buy them.

[glacial lintel]

Sounds fair. I played a bit of warframe back in the day but this will be more my style.
I’m excited for the grinds I think lol

I’ve read it’s like 20ish hours of content so far and the rest farming

[rich breach]

also, small optional tip.. if you bought sirin founders, pick either tethren or oscelda as your starter pact in game, lets you start with 2 different pacts instead of sirin and wyld sirin, hehe

[glacial lintel]

Oh wow great advice!
Can we have more than 1 character yet? Or I’d have to change back to wyld sirin?
Also, how do we unlock the other wylds for free or is that not released yet?

[rich breach]

just 1 character per account, like warframe.

can't unlock Wylds without $$ yet, but they've said that's coming later.

[glacial lintel]

Great,
So if I choose tethren or oscelda I’ll be able to switch between that or sirin from the beginning?

[daring jacinth]

Game has a loadouts option too, so you can set pacts to specific loadouts and swap on the fly

[glacial lintel]

Awesome wow & I just read it’s easy to change pacts

Damn I’m hype. Thanks a million

[rich breach]

any pact you've unlocked and crafted is available to swap to anytime you visit your arsenal

[glacial lintel]

Great thanks a lot for your time gentleman. Talk soon good night

[sleek belfry]

So this game is like warframe but medieval?

[rich breach]

There's some similar notions (pacts vs warframes, abilities, weapon upgrading), but it's pretty significantly different in execution and overall feel.

[sleek belfry]

I saw that the combat system looks the same

[rich breach]

You could kinda compare it to Duviri, but even that's not super close.

[rich breach]

A lot slower and deliberate, but uses the same game engine, so you'll notice elements.

[sleek belfry]

Oh, that’s good then.

[radiant sparrow]

I found these platforms in the undercity and I can't seem to get them to come down, any tips?

[clear vessel]

which?

[storm dust]

Pics helps

[radiant sparrow]

There was a lever underneath them, I thought I had to like attack the rope

[radiant sparrow]

^^

[clear vessel]

oh nice

[earnest timber]

Can you mastery rank 18 yet?

[storm dust]

Havent gotten the bow, but it’s close

Im practically on the brim of a rank up

[earnest timber]

Yeah I’m maxed all weps/pacts/loactions and at 17 99% lol

Apparently you can only hit 18 if you had fey pact

[storm dust]

Awww, that sucks

I joined in p11

[earnest timber]

Dang yeah I joined at the beginning of p12

[storm dust]

At the end tho, so i got the slots but not played

[copper bluff]

Envoys, which tree gives highest xp for factions?

[storm dust]

NE

T3 with dungeons, 3k faction

[copper bluff]

Awesome, moving there👍🏼

[storm dust]

[pulsar tundra]

Does curaidhs breath increase you virtue but specially courage?

[storm dust]

Yes, each virtue has its own potion name

And its for a duration not session

1 hr iirc

[pulsar tundra]

Good to know

I was about to pop it lol

[storm dust]

[elder gull]

i'm lost, idk what a grave robber is and I can't find it in the area

[storm dust]

Its the stone coffin in the middle with a blue orby thingy that you can push its cap asidr

[elder gull]

oh nvm I found it. Its the wondering patrol guards lol they went off the radius of the mission area

[storm dust]

Ohh you mean “steal the key” mission

[elder gull]

yea

[elder gull]

I hate these things.. they just trap me in here forever :/

unstuck doesn't even work

[storm dust]

Did you kill everyone?

Usually nf fixed it if everyone’s dead

[elder gull]

as you can see, there are no enemies 😭😭😭

[storm dust]

After using the EXPLOSIONNN rune i never face any stucks on them cages while im using magick

[copper bluff]

After finishing Circade dungeons we always end up at the other side of the map?😩

The quest giver waiting outside gives lower exp quest because its so far away from the tree

[storm dust]

Relogin after tales to tp to last tree

Modern problems need modern solutions

[copper bluff]

Heeyy thats such a nice tip, thanks 😂

Technologiaa

[storm dust]

[azure bear]

is there a fixed place vadagar bear spawns

[cobalt tangle]

No.

[storm dust]

It shares rng with stag

[azure bear]

so I have to look through all the possible spawn locations at night

[vagrant kayak]

Or find a Tale that has the bear as endpoint, Recruiting often has people sharing them

[lament nacelle]

I have found that they pretty much always spawn in swampy areas and corrupted areas at night when they are not on cooldown. At least i THINK they have a cooldown cause i fought both one night and they didnt show up anywhere else the next

i mostly hang in the NE swamp doing rep grind and at night i will fight the one that spawns

tho i havent been online long enough for the second night, i think if they DO have a cooldown you might be able to stagger the two bosses in that area one a night and enough time should pass to spawn every other night

[neat night]

I would suggest spamming tales because you will need faction lvl anyway, so two birds

\ ( * . * ) /

also sometimes after I kill a stag in tale, a bear spawn right afterward so basically you can get two in 1 go

[deep rune]

you can reliably find them in the red circles during Night, although it seems random between Bear & Stag and/or spam Tier 2/3 Tales that contain them as others suggested

[knotty moon]

It doesn't spawn regularly at Birdie's Bog?

[deep rune]

not too sure, it might, I had problems finding it there so I just circled the ones that always worked for me personally 😄

[safe pelican]

They really should add increase perfect throw window on polearms

Is there another way to increase the window?

[lament nacelle]

yeah i have always had luck in any swamp really

[knotty moon]

There should be an Arts for it, not sure Polearms have it though.

[safe pelican]

It doesn't :"c

[azure bear]

aight, thanks let me check it out next night

[deep rune]

honestly, if you still need to do Tales for your farming, you're probably best to just do Tales North-East while prioritising Bear ones and every night go and check the North-East red circle for a bonus Stag/Bear as others suggested

[azure bear]

wait do different trees have different tales

ive genuinely been getting tales from the same 1 tree

[deep rune]

the north ones will give you more points on average, since that's where you find the highest level monsters so it's generally good to farm there if you can handle the monsters

for example, a North tier-3 tale that involves a Dungeon will give you 2900 points

[safe pelican]

What time is the daily reset?

[azure bear]

ahhh i see ok
so like the tree next to fort kearnhold is rly good? cause i can consistently s tier that fort

[spare badge]

About 12 hours from now.

[copper bluff]

Is it common that cogah bosses drop nothing significant? I feel like normal bosses at least drop joineries, but these dont

[spare badge]

Yes.

I got burned out multiple times trying to get the cogah bosses to drop their cogah runes. Still have 3 I can't bring myself to bother with farming yet. 100+ kills and no worthy drops gets a bit old...

[copper bluff]

Holy, at least it’s not some kind of bug. Now I know what to expect

[amber bolt]

My hatred for flyblades is currently undergoing a battle against my desire to level up all weapons.
The latter is currently winning, but I feel that it's fading fast...

[thorny glen]

i could have sworn that rank 4 alca had the orengal chest on sale for like 14k but when i reach rank 4, i don't see it

[amber bolt]

He is the hero that the Glades need
But not the one it deserves...

[marsh rune]

I wonder who updates Soulmap? I've been checking some of the Vadagar spawns, and I haven't spawned them near Kairness and Moray/Moon's Watch

P10 I remember there were spots near those areas, but I haven't spawned them since coming back this prelude.

[lilac egret]

is the wevetseed bugged or something everytime i log in it keeps going down....i had 20 yesterday and now it says i have 12

[marsh rune]

They are bugged yeah.

[lilac egret]

ok thanks

[knotty moon]

As far as I know @whole owl does.

[whole owl]

It's actually @velvet island

[knotty moon]

My bad.

[whole owl]

I just built the app

[velvet island]

oh, hi

[whole owl]

But it's Remi's child

[velvet island]

anything needs udpating ?

oh, it's in the description for it, i keep the old spawns (listed in description) until i can separate each spawn per version

[neat solstice]

Do faction donations count toward the daily rep limit?

[marsh rune]

I still need corroboration but the Vadagar spawn points near Kairness and near Moray/Moon's Watch haven't been successful for me.

Maybe someone near these areas can corroborate.

[safe grotto]

Can you fast travel in igame?

[spare badge]

I don't know. But I have heard some say they can be donated beyond the limit.

[velvet island]

is mentionned, the other, 7 isn't, will update, ty

[spare badge]

Yes. You get wevet seeds from the sapling Bromius gives you after you cure him. That will spawn 1-3 seeds, with a 12 hour cooldown.

[velvet island]

ty

[deep rune]

same for me

[safe grotto]

Ah ok I beat him last night.

[velvet island]

in case you don't see a spawn, this is the reason for now

[deep rune]

I think the tales there do not involve Fort, rather, the Tree will show the Fort as a separate objective when it is not on cooldown. Someone can correct me on this.

[spare badge]

You can find the planter and sapling he gave you in nightfold, by verminia's platform.

[safe grotto]

Got 1 seed lol.

[spare badge]

Anyhow... I'm goinna go get some rest. Try to burn down the Ode and not the discord...

[deep rune]

Flyblades are fantastic for ensuring a high probability of smite and slowing most enemies into a frozen state. Prioritise the skills that increase Smite Chance & Orbiting Flyblades Smite Chance in the skill tree and add the "slow on orbiting flyblades" totem then just activate orbiting flyblades and switch to main weapon before you fight, they will help tremendously and they level up (albeit quite slowly)

to activate Orbiting Flyblades just hold on the heavy attack (although sometimes it will just throw the Flyblades instead so you gotta do it again) but they are a game changer

[amber bolt]

I'll try :3

[deep rune]

they will almost always give you a smite proc, especially if they're hitting multiple enemies and it can slow most monsters to where they're barely attacking you. For example, it completely freezes Imp sometimes although some bosses like Vella seem slow-resistant

[kind roost]

bcs you sprint atk thats why it throws

[deep rune]

makes sense

[clear vessel]

No

[subtle plinth]

[knotty moon]

Uh, nice, finally able to see the bug in action.

[safe pelican]

Are magick weapons meant to do low damage or what??

[knotty moon]

Kinda, though they can scale fairly well all things compared if built correctly.

[vagrant kayak]

Magick weapons are hit the hardest by being low level, as you level them they'll start performing a lot better

Joineries also help a lot

[thorny glen]

the best magic weapons are the ones in your heart (heart attack)

but yea, they need to change its weapon perk gimmick, pierce on heavy attack is almost useless

[knotty moon]

The Arts are up for a rework.
No ETA though.

[thorny glen]

all my 55 levels of longsword are waiting

[amber bolt]

... Skyrim giants are back...

[thorny glen]

btw does collector cogath give nimrod flyblade runes?

[marsh rune]

do y'all feel any difference between polearms and greatswords atm? both have slow 4-hit combos and clunky sprint attacks but i'm not seeing major differences in terms of playstyle at the moment.

[thorny glen]

polearms can sometimes headshot

greatswords have better cleave

polearms have better throw accuracy, greatswords...dont

[marsh rune]

you know, if polearms are more throw-minded, kinda wish they're significantly faster to wield a la spears because they seem to be becoming spears.

[thorny glen]

they CAN, but the fact that you can actually headshot in normal melee combo makes it the best singel target weapon

other than bow

i personally use courage infused Purity greatsword because it can cleave 9 enemies in like 4 seconds

[marsh rune]

this actually tracks. reminds me of Chinese spear martial arts

[thorny glen]

i was using marrows bite 5 courage scaling, but cleaver moveset is SO SLOW and does the same dmg as greatsword

but greatsword has better dash and range strikes

[marsh rune]

how do you make the dash strike work for greatsword? because it doesn't magnet to an enemy at all compared to slashes

[thorny glen]

heavy attack dashes towards nearest enemy

assuming you keep moving forward

[marsh rune]

do greatswords have better parry windows than polearms?

[subtle plinth]

I'd always go with polearm. I wouldn't call Gathannan's combo slow by any means. And as it was said earlier, the main difference is throw. The damage and speed is insane

I also like the animation and speed of the parries. These two weapons are completely different to me and could depend on one's personal preference