gameplay-discussion

[frigid spoke]

Waiting too long, gotta do it while it's still on the body

Do it while in the fight, a mob starts to glow, you hold q n left click on them and you smite pull em

[lean prawn]

What's present is a lot of fun, but the content is somewhat limited and you end up grinding the same things a lot. Understandable though with how early it is. New Prelude coming with major changes to virtues, combat and other systems. Don't regret buying Founders or Paragon and still excited for the game as its evolving.

[minor flame]

Thank you very much for your input. I have played yet and I’m betting it will be fun to get into. I’m broke so I ain’t got the money for founders, imma just wait till the next code drop

[visual radish]

Which is tomorrow btw

#soulframe-news message

[minor flame]

Thank you for that info!

[dawn arrow]

Like I dont want to over hype it but honestly, even though i did not play warframe there is something about this game that made me not to want to play anything else. I dont even play early access games yet it is sucking my soul :3

[minor flame]

😂😂 not you locked in

[lethal tundra]

@dawn arrow DE knows their craft.

The main issue in an otherwise solid foundation is the in elegance of getting players togather.

Lfg needs a better system.

[hexed spoke]

Is the durklim and flyblade interaction a bug or game design?

[gleaming tusk]

any official way to get the tree on the island?

[frigid spoke]

no

[lament nacelle]

As someone who played alot of Warframe, i agree. there is more charm in this game for me than sci fi shooter ninjas

[lament nacelle]

the only thing i wish is a way to fully collapse the chat to hide it without having to start a whisper with someone

[lethal tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/no-zavala-destiny-destiny2-gif-20225296

@lament nacelle
I want the chat and lfg system completely revised.

Destiny/Destiny 2, handled LFG better by far.

[lament nacelle]

yeah

[neat night]

no no no ... no more destiny 2... I dont want to see it anymore...

[twilit lance]

like 4 years clean off destiny 2

thank god

they lost me at lightfall. i do not care how good the game got after lightfall, i felt disrespected as a consumer and refused to be a part of it after lightfall.

if you are going to overmonetize your game, at least make it a good game! god damn

[neat night]

deleted my characters (2 times), sold my old gaming laptop, sign up for community servicees, get more overtime jobs

just to get rid of that games from my mind

[north trail]

i think i messed up but i dont understand how

i bought orengall from avakot and i search befrore buying it and it said once i buy it from him ill just have the pact no need to craft

my moneys gone but i dont have it also i did consider if it was only purchasing the pact to build it but it only showed up in shop after i completed the quest so i dont think thats it

what happened to my moneyy huhuh

[frigid spoke]

wasted coin. Those are there if you sell your pact. Still have to craft it.

[neat night]

yeah, the only way "not to craft it" is buy from the camel

[frigid spoke]

You can earn em from the different factions. Don't buy pacts for coin

[north trail]

i feel so bad there should be a description or smth specifiying it my hours of crate and barrel breaking gone

[frigid spoke]

20k down the drain

[neat night]

it' ok, 20k is not that bad to earn back

[north trail]

imo a player shouldnt be able to buy it if they already have it

*not be able to

any way i can suggest to the devs

[frigid spoke]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[gray vapor]

Is wyld the same as prime

[frigid spoke]

no but sorta

[north trail]

thanks

[frigid spoke]

minor changes butr nothing significantly

[gray vapor]

kk cause i bought the founder pack and i was playing regular oscera, so i didnt know which is better

[north trail]

wyld oschelda has better stats

[gray vapor]

works for me

[frigid spoke]

well you'll get an additional 30 points to put in the pact skill n 3 or 4 extra virtue point

[dusty hare]

Avakot i think is just a safetynet

When it comes to pacts

[frigid spoke]

You'll have to lvl them both to 30 to get the full 60 points

[dusty hare]

I lose points if i delete the non-wyld, oof

[wraith badge]

You know, I wasn't big on Wyld Sirin being a dagger (I thought it was funny that it's the only one with a Secondary that functions as an actual melee weapon)

But after getting the Cogah Rune for the Dagger, it feels so great using the Wyld Sirin Bow and Dagger together, use the Bow's alt fire to generate Smite, switch to Dagger then go around all stabby stabby.

[north trail]

how do u get runes

[wraith badge]

Chance from Bosses, check the Soulframe map on the wiki to find them.
When using the Cogah, there's a chance those same bosses will drop exclusive runes although I don't think many of them are that good compared to the regular runes besides the one for Short Blades.

[north trail]

hrmm ive done a bunch of minibosses i wonder why i havent gotten any runes

[frigid spoke]

mini does not drop em, only agari bosses

[north trail]

alr wraith of the wastes

[frigid spoke]

Does drop a rune

[wraith badge]

For reference, the Vadagar Stag and Fort Siege minibosses don't drop them.
I forget if the Medicant King does or not.

[frigid spoke]

The siege bosses can drop runes, not the 1st bosses but the last one. I was wrong, the king can drop a regular and cogah rune.

[half swift]

Well i found a funny bug, ill report it in a bit but Lol don't go to your well armory? to quickly, you get stuck walking towards it in a animation Now off to make a bug report

[twin hound]

how do people dodge roll in this game? double tapping shift feels like shit, why would the devs make you double tap to dodge lmao it's like the most effective defensive action you can do and they make you double tap to do it what the hell

[worn crescent]

thats becasue double tap is a roll and single tap is a dash

they made it like that because in the skill trees of weapons you can dodge then follow up with a counter atk which does more dmg then a regular atk. you cant counter atk off a roll only a dash

[wraith badge]

Oh right yeah the Sieges themselves drop Runes

[twin hound]

ok but dashing is completely useless you cant get out of the way of any attacks, i play on some sword and shield and even if I parry I still take damage

[wraith badge]

but not the NPCs themselves in a Siege

[wraith badge]

Perfect Dodge gives you iframes from that specific attack, even if the hitbox collides with you.
However if another enemy attacks at the same time and it didn't register as a perfect dodge for both, the other can still hit you.

[worn crescent]

because a roll is used to get out of the way a dash is just harder to time on some emeny atks but works well with daggers

dashing is meant to be used on a emeny heavy atk not a regular atk

if you trying to dash a reg atk then gl you should be parrying those

[hoary wind]

what is a good goal for armor? are there any sets / pieces I should aim for/ prioritize getting

[worn crescent]

dont worry to much about armor until P13 its being reworked then along with virtues

just put on whatever gives you the highest armor rating for now

[hoary wind]

ty, I have the founders set but wanted to get something better if there was

[wraith badge]

I don't think Armor is being reworked, just that Courage will support your Armor more? I could be wrong.

That being said if you're looking for a good set of armor, the Armor obtained from Mockery boss seems to be the strongest set, although unless you're able to Bestitch, it's not the most beautiful looking set.
https://wiki.avakot.org/Mockery_(Set)

Btw there's two of these Mockery bosses if you want to check them out, one is Underground and one is in the open world. I think they're the only Boss (with a droptable) that does this.

[worn crescent]

yes sorry thats what i meant

[wraith badge]

I think I switched one of the pieces out for an Oscelda piece of armor, (I think it was the helmet?)

[worn crescent]

but in a way it is based on what your virtue points are in

[wraith badge]

Then again since Bosses only have a 30 minute timer now, I guess this tactic is less worthwhile unless you want to maximize time efficiency by running both

(Medicant King is still 3 hours though)

[lament nacelle]

the Coagh version? Cause the normal one is still 30 minutes for me

[wraith badge]

oh, idk then.

[frigid spoke]

It's broken for some. King is 30 for me also

[wraith badge]

actually I'm gonna hop back in game to double check what armor I'm using

[worn crescent]

no cogah bosses dont drop armor loot only normal

cogah drop rare runes for weapons no armor drops

[lament nacelle]

i gotta remember to go try and get the torrent rune to stress test my pc

[wraith badge]

Ok the armor I'm running is Medicant King (Helmet) Mockery Binds (Chest) Wyld Oscelda (Leggings)
This is what my total values are as a result.

[worn crescent]

you can boost that number drastically with runes that add a defense mote to weapons

this is my current with odiac and purity

this is the highest i can achieve if i go full mage with staff and odiac

[peak plover]

hi hi

[worn crescent]

and im using helmet and legs from bear pack and chest from mockery

[twin hound]

yeah idk, it doesn't feel at all good, half the time i don't even know if i successfully dash something or if the input actually registered

in a souls game i feel and see if I dodged, in bloodborne i can feel and see if i quickstep, in sekiro I can clearly feel and see if I successfully parry, in this game so far none of those apply

i know the game is in alpha and there will be changes, but for the life of me at every update I try to play the game and i'm like „now it's the time i really get into soulframe and grind it out” but everytime it just feels like crap, idk whatever

not to say about the level scaling, im going in a zone and there are like level 9 enemies and then i go 50 feet from there and there's like 10 level 30 mobs that one shot me

prelude 13 it is i guess, maybe it will get good

[dawn arrow]

There is a weird bug when i try to do a perfect throw, if i try to release at the perfect throw window the sliders keeps going to the end and fails the perfect. Going to nightfold and back fixes it

[dawn arrow]

In the beginning i just couldn't parry and kept asking the community if those weapons can parry or not heh, now that i got the hang of it, It feels really good. As for dodges, kinda feel wonky but maybe i need to get better at it like what happened to parry

[gray vapor]

between spirit courage and the other one. which one is best to invest it for regular attacks

I am in no position to fight 4 at once LOL

[languid escarp]

depends what your weapon scales off, it'll say if u hover over it, investing in whatever it scales on increses it's dmg

[visual glacier]

What time is the Soulframe update?

[visual radish]

We dont even have a day for the update

[gray vapor]

Where do I go after tormented stag

[boreal mauve]

I just fought the deer, so I'm at the very beginning.

I find the game a bit slow; you have to play in a group, otherwise you can't do all the actions. For example, I had to use a bow to use a grappling hook. I'm playing the hero with a sword, so...

I don't see how to use the components you pick up.
I thought I'd looted a sword, but I can't find it; it's not very clear.

[dawn arrow]

Every meelee weapon can be thrown (ranged). Hold right click and press heavy attack

And throwing weapons isnt just for looks, they really do good damage

[boreal mauve]

Exactly, provided you've acquired the skill?

[gray vapor]

wait why is the map chopped?

[dawn arrow]

no you can throw without skill, skills improves it

[boreal mauve]

ok

[gray vapor]

Anyone know how to fix this

[boreal mauve]

What are the components used for?

[dawn arrow]

What do you mean by components?

[boreal mauve]

everything we pick up off the ground

[dawn arrow]

The game is all about gathering those components to craft weapons/armor/items

you dont really loot ready items, you craft them

play further to ||unlock the blacksmith||

[boreal mauve]

Okay, I must be too early in the game because I don't see a crafting workshop.

yes

ok ok

Otherwise, the game is magnificent, but it makes my PC run hotter than any other game.

[narrow condor]

Does courage give you anything other than skill damage if your weapon is attuned to spirit

[dawn arrow]

Kind of, currently weapon damage increases based on the attunement, so spirit weapon increases with spirit virtue.
In terms of ability, usually courage is responsible for ability damage but to have a clearer picture, the wiki shows each ability and what each virtue does to it

[narrow condor]

oki, thanks, also does COgah induce damage cap to bosses? my odiac is not stacking beyond 69

[dawn arrow]

I cant confirm but i dont think so? I mean in Cogah they are harder and keep getting harder the more you kill and stay in the mode but, I was playing with someone who was shredding bosses like no tomorrow lol

[boreal mauve]

Can I create another character?

Currently I have the one with the sword, but I'd like to try the bow without having to buy it.

[gusty jewel]

U can craft one

[dawn arrow]

You can unlock all pacts (classes) and change anytime, well by playing more.

[boreal mauve]

Okay, I need to continue.

merci

[zenith siren]

add autorun and in game chat on controller

[narrow condor]

is there a visual indicator if your thethren buffs are active

[smoky crater]

Think for the first one your weapon gets wrapped in like thorns

[narrow condor]

ill recheck, prob hard to see with odiac's visuals

[little granite]

What about stat distribution for the Paragon? It seems attuned to everything

[narrow condor]

Do you loose it when u miss a few shots? or i can just give it enough spirit so that itll perfectly match the recharge rate

[smoky crater]

It is attuned to everything yes

[smoky crater]

You lose it when you miss even 1 shot/hit

[narrow condor]

ohhh okie then it lasts forever? or has a duation also

[smoky crater]

It does last for a limited amount i think aswell, but also only for a limited amount of hits

[narrow condor]

okiee

[little granite]

So to maximize its output, I have to distribute equally?

[smoky crater]

Nnnope

It'll scale the exact same with any kind of point distribution

[little granite]

So i just stuff points into anything and its fine anyway? I could ignore courage?

[foggy skiff]

so when is preludes 13 coming do we have a date

[quick niche]

I thought it was today, but today is Envoyhour.

[wary laurel]

**SORRY !!! **dont know where to put this topic (cannot find a off-topic chat) about DISCORD requesting login with face ID / Documents of proof ?

[vagrant kayak]

There is no off-topic channel because we'd prefer you stay on-topic for Soulframe this server is not the place to discuss Discord changes

[oak steppe]

If i buy a founders will i be able to play the game ?

[narrow condor]

Doe each individual arrow from arrow hail trigger torrent? (when fired while smite is active)

[gray vapor]

yes

[oak steppe]

Thanks for the reply mate

[round swan]

Is there a way to tell how many inventory I have for a given thing. i.e. weapon slots?

[ebon wraith]

From camel where you buy the slots there will be a number under each slot telling how many empty* slots you have

[valid herald]

When will be the uodate?

And what will include?

[leaden scroll]

Maybe today but probably tomorrow

[ebon wraith]

watch #devstream-15 for update info and Soon™

[valid herald]

Cant tell me by there? 😂😂

[leaden scroll]

Its allot

[valid herald]

And where can i find it in that channel i dont see it

[leaden scroll]

https://youtu.be/8VBPQdbrxKI

[finite stone]

https://www.soulframe.com/en/news/soulframe-devstream-12-overview

[swift schooner]

If I max rank a faction, and I bank up some standing, then switch to a different faction, then switch back, does my banked faction standing stay? Or will I be rank 5 with 0 spendable standing?

[vagrant kayak]

It stays

[narrow condor]

How many hits is the tethren fellust?

kinda weird, I counted 7, does the number of hits scale with courage

[swift schooner]

Thanks 🙂 So I could hypothetically stock up on 30k standing in each of them before I've run out of faction stuff to do?

[vagrant kayak]

Yep can save up

[vagrant kayak]

Should be 5 but I believe finishers don't consume a charge?

[narrow condor]

I used a bow, it scaled as well to 7

so pretty much stack to 6 then one shot any boss

wiki says 5 only idk why it became 7 maybe a bug

[finite stone]

wiki Pact arcanics are mostly P11 data whilst we wait for P13, then a few people are gonna do some heavy testing and get all the new scaling etc confirmed

the 5 to 7 change rings a bell, idk if it was a proper patchnote change or just something players noticed with P12 or Thawtide maybe? I'll check the patchnotes though

[narrow condor]

ill relog to recheck

[finite stone]

Oh these were the only official P12 changes (made with Thawtide) so yeah unsure about the charges

[somber haven]

How come I only get three hits before the buff went away

[smoky crater]

ability at a lower rank maybe?

the abilities have ranks aswell that increase as you level up your pact

[narrow condor]

yeah 7

not even min maxed bow

wait ill lower down my courage to sell if itll go down

still 7

prob a bug on bows or meastro

[dawn arrow]

Is there a way to tell how many charges you have?

[narrow condor]

also 7 on magick

[finite stone]

Good question I haven't used tethren in a while so not sure, unless there's some sort of visual on the arm itself then maybe not

[dawn arrow]

Ok ok, just tested and was paying attention, sword glows red

4 swings for me, dont have to hit a target to consume a charge, but not max ranked yet

[swift schooner]

I think a huge improvement for the game would be to add counters and timers to the game.

• Timer for wolf form
• Buff timers
• Buff charge counter for Tethren
• Etc.

I know they want things to be as immersive as possible, so I'd be down for a sound effect when 10s left on wolf form, arm getting overgrown with vines on each Tethren charge use with a flare of light on the last attack in the combo, so on so forth.

[foggy skiff]

i have a question if i upgrade the rune for the staff the hollowing does it only increase the damage or also increases the duration?

[long grove]

just the damage

[foggy skiff]

so the arrow rune it says 30 even though i levelled it up like 2 times but it increased the duration right

[somber haven]

Should I use grinn or witan

Witan uses better materials but it seems to have worse stats than grinn

[long grove]

torrent? or alca's breath?

[foggy skiff]

torrent

[long grove]

torrent is just more damage

can use https://wiki.avakot.org/ to verify what rune levels do

[foggy skiff]

oh okay

yeah i saw the site but i was still confused

coz the arrow rune seems like it is increasing the duration too but the staff rune does not seem like it xd

and does the explosion does additive dmg or multiplicative dmg

[long grove]

missed this, but they are functionally the same despite a 1% smite chance difference

[foggy skiff]

yeah when i rank up both runes till level 3 they seem to have increased duration

[long grove]

hmm, i didn't feel any difference myself. like with mistgale

though it's been a long time since i upgraded it

but as for what it definitely does do, is increase the damage of it each time it's upgraded

[foggy skiff]

yeah

well normally when i do the dungeons for dewelion and i charge the rune it ends quickly

rn it is still on ig the duration does increase after rank 2 rune

maybe i am wrong tbh idk but yeah the duration should increase tbh

[smoky crater]

what's the duration on it? 👀

[dawn arrow]

Torrent always show 30 damage in all ranks, i dont know what exactly is increasing duration perhaps. But most runes that I leveled up was damage increase.

[foggy skiff]

yeah but duration increase is good tbh

[dawn arrow]

It is so OP as 30 damage anyways, crazy OP 😛

[foggy skiff]

yeah i think the dmg dosent increase maybe its duration increases

[dawn arrow]

My only problem with Torrent build is a single boss fight, a lot of times Smite does not happen and the whole fight becomes very slow

[long grove]

always read it as the damage going up by 30 but soulframe things not matching description is pretty common might even also add duration

[dawn arrow]

Other than that, I feel like I am cheating in all other scenarios

Tethren in the other hand, not max ranked and using a long sword, I sometimes kill Banneret in 3 hits, like ... lol 😛

[narrow condor]

is it possible to have a feybalt drop in the room after the circade crypt boss?

[somber haven]

Just tried tethren and realized I've been doing piss damage with oscelda

[finite stone]

from what dropsource do you mean? A crypt sarcophagus?

[narrow condor]

was trying to figure out if i still want to do the last maze (with the torches) cause i only want feybalt

[finite stone]

That's the circade armour set sarcophagus, it's a different thing

[narrow condor]

ok so no drops from feybalt there right? gonna skip it

[finite stone]

yea

but the room after the boss can have feybalt in it if there's a glowing sarcophagus

(room after being the one on the way to the exit, not the tomb which is to the side)

[narrow condor]

okiee

also if i failed this, will the door still open if i try again

[finite stone]

yes dw you can't fail

[narrow condor]

okie

[dire helm]

Enjoy it while it lasts.
-# They nerfed Tempest into the ground because it was too good in the last update, and I expect something similar may happen to tethren in this one.

[narrow condor]

wtf, i went to nighthold then i fell and died due to fall damage

[abstract badge]

Anything worth picking up in the Arc store or should I just hold onto them for now

[round swan]

weapon slots

[finite stone]

Weapon slots, Pact slots

[abstract badge]

Ah, good call

How do I get Purity? King drops?

Got Paragon and Needle to 30, I want to complete the collection

[narrow condor]

do blessed feybalt drop in crypt? ive seen only polished

[chilly locust]

yeah after playing tethran all the other pacts seem really weak

[abstract badge]

I have a pretty good garren rood build going, coming off Tethren the damage is pretty similar

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Purity

King or Collector, but King will be best for direct farming

[abstract badge]

Thanks much! I don't think I've encountered a collector fight since the fable where one drops in

Oh, wait, I did once and didn't have that cloud item

[finite stone]

Cloudquell isn't needed, just makes nimrod an easy fight if you want to steamroll it

[abstract badge]

Oh, he kicked my butt 3x in a row and I gave up

[finite stone]

Haha that's fair, he's one of the tougher boss fights

[abstract badge]

Now I carry one on me 😄

[somber haven]

would they ever buff sirin and oscelda tho

They feel really weak

[smoky crater]

sirin is far from weak

oscelda too honestly

[finite stone]

yeah in fact many say oscelda is the easiest pact in the game because of how strong its CC and healing are lmao

[smoky crater]

and sirin is just.. cc after cc with a good amount of damage

with a possibility to go sneak attack someone if both are in cooldown

i would honestly even go as far as to say all the pacts are good, if they're not working for you? you're not using them properly.

[abstract badge]

Very different gameplay on each

[finite stone]

yeah this, all 3 starter pacts are honestly kinda insane

[round swan]

i found orengall kinda meh. the others, minus mora's hand because I dont have it yet, have been solid. I main oscelda. its been the funnest imo.

[long grove]

orengall is pretty great. 1 kinda just defaults as an opener true, but the weapon damage buff from having your wolves is good, and smite chance from your 3 alone is really the highway to deleting everything in front of you

[round swan]

yea. I need to do more testing with Oscelda. I had that rune equipped last night that explodes marked enemies on kill. But it was not working during a co-op session. But when it was workin in my solo session I was deleting whole rooms in dungeon crawls.

[dire helm]

There's a damage multiplier on Bestone. If you're having trouble killing something, or want to line up a heavy attack to do a larger chunk of damage, bestone the thing first.
Sirin... idk, Haven't figured that pact out yet.

[long grove]

sirin is mainly giving yourself windows for damage

[dire helm]

Yeah, I leveled it a bit, and there doesn't seem to be any special trick for doing more damage, just allowing yourself to set up stealth finishers and such.

[long grove]

pure cc on 1 for damage windows, distraction towards an explosion that can also lead to backstabs, and either an escape or a finisher opportunity for free on your 3

and tbh your 1 comes back so fast by the time it ends you can cc again.. can't take damage if they can't hit you pfff

well at least in non-cogah

[dawn arrow]

Nothing beats the Weaver 😑

[dawn arrow]

Yeah Sirin was so fun playing with, add cloak rune on daggers and its just a bloodbath

[modest rampart]

Weaver used to be a joke before they buffed her 🙂

[foggy skiff]

true

[iron compass]

just cheese him with a oselda freeze then heavt

i cheese all boss fights by finding a puddle and spamming 1 then heavy

due to oselda buffs in water i get almost instant refreshes

[tropic charm]

can someone please convince me that the pre-determined virtue distribution of prisms is a good idea

[iron compass]

spamming smite and stagger special attacks

[halcyon thicket]

with enough number of prisms available it probably won't be as bad as it sounds

[iron compass]

although the stagger special attacks deal the same stealth attacks i noticed

[halcyon thicket]

but it doesnt change much in of itself, that's just an accessibility change

[tropic charm]

so it defeats the point of having prisms in the first place so they shouldn't be introduced at all because they are just nerfing playing players who haven't grinded for everything

you did the opposite of what i asked you to 😭

[halcyon thicket]

u mean getting prisms?

it wont be a grind, u just get them from somewhere

[tropic charm]

only case i see it being helpful is with newer players, at which point they can just make an auto assign feature which is bound to be far easier to implement than warframe's auto mod because there's only 3 choices

[fierce coral]

Not to nitpick, but that seems like "grind" (for either resources to buy, running around finding the spawn, etc) in more words

[halcyon thicket]

grind usually means repeating a piece of content

also tied to rng

which prisms arent, they said future prisms will be tied to fables

[round swan]

would be cool if you could set your stats the way you want then "crystalize" them with a farmable resource. then equip the crystal. Maybe use the old dude ancestor as a shop to do this?

[halcyon thicket]

i guess they want to give virtues more character and tie it to lore

[halcyon thicket]

nice idea

[tropic charm]

depends on the final implementation of whether it's a grind or a chore but my point still stands

"Oh you didn't look online to where to find silent rose? you can't do a grace build"
"Oh you didn't do the Bromius quest? guess you can't do the courage/spirit hybrid build"

[tropic charm]

so just an extra step to what we already have that provides no benefit

[round swan]

dude, its in pre-alpha. let them test their mechanics.

[halcyon thicket]

well those are kind of important to the progression of the story

[iron compass]

i want a better xp farm which isn't awful and RNG based, by the time i find an arena i am already maxed out on my gear

it is stupid and a metehod of faster transport would be better or unlimited fast travel

[finite stone]

"Oh you didn't look online to where to find silent rose? you can't do a grace build"
"Oh you didn't do the Bromius quest? guess you can't do the courage/spirit hybrid build"

I mean, having to explore in this exploration game is a pretty low requirement. If someone doesn't explore, I'd expect them to miss things, that's on them

The main thing is just whether the virtue prisms feel fun and worthwhile, which I think hangs on the idea of unique effects/synergies/bonuses they talked about

[tropic charm]

so we can't criticize at all?
can't share our opinions/concerns because it isn't a finished product?
am i supposed to just sit here and pray that DE gets it right by the time the game is no longer in pre-alpha?

[iron compass]

what is a virtue prism

[iron compass]

literally our reviews and cretics should be and are meant to improve the final product

[halcyon thicket]

something that determines your virtue point distribution

[iron compass]

this is constructive criticism

[finite stone]

https://www.soulframe.com/en/news/soulframe-devstream-12-overview

[iron compass]

the 3 things?

[tropic charm]

what they are replacing the current system with

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[iron compass]

what how do i get that

nvm it isyet to be implemetned

[tropic charm]

not in game yet

[vestal oriole]

no virtue option and you just have to play as a half-naked pacifist

[iron compass]

current system feels meaningless

[tropic charm]

in most cases i'm of the opinion that we should wait till it's in game first to give feedback, but i just don't see anything positive for prisms compared to the current system except from newer player not having unspent points

[tropic charm]

how? could you elaborate why u think so?

[viral saddle]

How will the blessing change?

Can someone explain it to me

[halcyon thicket]

it's gonna make a weapon scale more with its attunement

so if u have a grace weapon and u install a blessed joinery, you'll have higher damage

[viral saddle]

2 courage-> 2courage + 2grace when I ues grace blessed?

[halcyon thicket]

3

well idk how much

they havent said

[tropic charm]

no workshop yet so details on how blessed joineries are changed aren't clear

[smoky crater]

soulshort did drop

explain it there a bit

[tropic charm]

yeah it doesn't explain much for blessed

to my understanding you'll want to use a virtue that already matches the weapon's innate scaling

so if a weapon scales with 2 courage and 2 grace, a spirit blessed joinery is the worst option

[smoky crater]

ye

[viral saddle]

So when a 2 spirit weapon uses these

What will it become?

[tropic charm]

we don't know

[halcyon thicket]

we don't know

[tropic charm]

they will release a workshop at some point

[halcyon thicket]

i think that video was the workshop lol

[tropic charm]

until then what we do know is up to steve's whims and phrasing

[mystic sedge]

I think it'll be one of two things:
-The Blessed by X ADDs a single scaling of whatever the virtue on the joinery is
-Only weapons with inherent scaling to a specific virtue can be upgraded by the new blessed aligning to that virtue

[mystic sedge]

We aren't gonna get another workshop. We'll just get p13

[viral saddle]

2 spirit+X spirit and 2 spirit +X courage?

[tropic charm]

they said they were gonna release a workshop before p13 during the devstream

unless i missed an announcement that cancelled it

[mystic sedge]

I would assume the Soulshort covers that unless p13 gets delayed. If no delay, then we should have all our answers this week when the patch releases

[visual radish]

Soulshort≠dev workshop
Dev workshop is in text format in the forums

[iron compass]

because you just get minimal benefits per each point you invest

[tropic charm]

also we don't have a date so can't really be delayed

[mystic sedge]

Sure like get that. I'm just saying why would they bother with a workshop if they release the actual patch in a day or so and we just find out the answer

[mystic sedge]

We were told it was on track for this week and haven't heard anything else

[tropic charm]

so how does not choosing what you can invest into make it better

[mystic sedge]

Prisms have way more of a progression aspect to them because they add a potential verticality to it. They even mentioned adding Prisms that add various other effects/stats outside of just stat weight scaling

By itemizing virtues, it creates a more dynamic development space where Prisms could potentially be upgraded or we could get "end game prisms" or something like that

[tropic charm]

you could still have progression and effects by not tying the virtue distribution to them

[mystic sedge]

You'd be adding just another slot or thing instead of improving on a system inherent to the game already. It's fine if you'd prefer it that way, I do understand the sentiment. But I think reworking a system to feel better than it currently does (in my and many other player's opinions) is just a better path to the same result

[iron compass]

.

i agree with that

[iron compass]

for me it just feels empty

if they wanted to make a point distribution system at least make more stats instead of making e generalized categories of stats

also leveling up doesn't feel so exciting like it should for other games imo i dunno

it is more exciting to make new weaponsand get level them to get art points

[mystic sedge]

Well to be entirely far. Part of it feeling empty at the moment is certainly coming from the fact that Virtues just don't feel good as a whole system. You basically just dump courage and the other stats are garbage. If Virtues in general felt better currently, doing stat distribution would probably feel better. But again, I think revamping is still the better play and does still create a fundamentally better design space

[iron compass]

leveling upjust doesn't feel special or important i dunno

[iron compass]

and i only do the mage stat

i don't even remember its name

[mystic sedge]

The feeling of leveling will probably not change. Mastery level still dictates how many virtue points you have. The Prism just doles them out based on stat weights

Spirit. But yeah. Spirit feels reaaaaaaaal bad atm

[long grove]

I mean, weapon and pact damage and capability is directly tied to its level, and the difference between a new envoy and maxxed is 16 stat points. it may have been gradual, but it definitely contributes to your power

[tropic charm]

so how does auto leveling solve anything

[mystic sedge]

It does. But the 'game feel' isn't very good I think is where Fired and I are coming from

[long grove]

auto stat distribution isn't the same as auto leveling

[mystic sedge]

You don't auto level any more than you do now. How the gained points are distributed are changing. You still have control over how your points are slotted. Maybe slightly less control FOR NOW. But in the future if Prisms are upgraded with stats like Crit Rate or CDR or w/e, you'll feel like you have WAY more control over builds

Again, you really have to view these changes as long term goalposts

[sly escarp]

Technical choice vs meaningful choice. Assigning each point individually technically adds more options, but realistically what it leads to is putting the same balance of numbers in based on requirements.

Prisms, meanwhile, are technically less choices...but each prism moves more virtue points around, meaning each choice is more meaningful and requires more consideration.

Before, you would just put points into whatever scaling your weapon used to its cap, and your biggest choice was where to put the rest, usually dumping into one stat. Now, you might face a choice of: one prisms puts 3 more points into your weapon scaling than the cap, and another might by 3 less than cap. Do you overflow your scaling, or do you do less wep damage for a different virtue benefit?

[tropic charm]

yes but i've already typed some lengthy messages and didn't want to get into too much detail for a simple response

[tropic charm]

how attunement works is also changing by reworking both the requirement, how blessed joineries work AND giving most (if not all) weapons scaling with multiple virtues, which already solves what u said in the last paragraph

[mystic sedge]

I mean.. you can chew gum and walk at the same time

One problem doesn't just have to have 1 solution if multiple solutions make the result even better

[tropic charm]

yes but it would be weird if u were forced to walk while chewing gum when before you could also ride the bike while chewing gum

[mystic sedge]

Maybe you dont know how to ride a bike. Maybe going too fast on the bike stops you from making meaningful stops along the way. I shouldn't have used this metaphor I guess lol

Ultimately, it sounds like you want 100% complete control over the current system now. Which is fne. But that isn't want most want nor what the devs want

[halcyon marsh]

I’m still curious what kind of gum

[mystic sedge]

Spearmint. I'm a simple guy

[iron compass]

i dunno feels more special than just randomly dumping in points and getting + 10 damage and it is not auto leveling

also that would allow them to optimize each class better

[sly escarp]

End of the day, maybe they are changing too much at once, but we'll only really get to see what happens once the update drops. Personally don't think Prisms are as much of a problem as one might think, but am willing to eat crow on that...once the update launches, and we actually see what the impact is. That kinda is at the end of the day the final trial for any system overhaul, is release.

[iron compass]

if they have presets

[tropic charm]

i don't see why losing control is benefitial, they said that new players tend to have unassigned virtues which could very easily be solved by simply having an auto assign toggle

[sly escarp]

In the meantime, we can all continue giving feedback on it, with the understanding we're all making assumptions based on the info released.

[mystic sedge]

You're losing control NOW for potentially more control in the FUTURE. I also personally believe the Prism system has better game feel and creates a more engaging system. Does that mean it's a slam dunk? Absolutely not. It still have to be completely tested and tried out. But in theory, I like this system more. Prisms feel more like Subclasses that can be expanded on in the future. Rather than just distributing stats and calling it a day

[sly escarp]

Maybe we can all just agree to disagree here? There's a lot of personal preference and assumptions being made by all sides, and it's unlikely there will ever be consensus. Feedback is helpful but an endless back and forth tends to be less so.

[tropic charm]

if you want to talk about the future then there's also the problem that eventually too much expansion just makes the system innately pointless because theres so many options you can do basically any combo you want, only difference being that you are now suddenly punishing players who haven't done anything because they don't have access to a specific archetype

[tropic charm]

i'd say this is more in line with theorising rather than feedback, we don't know enough info for this system beyond what it does conceptually

[sly escarp]

True.

[mystic sedge]

To Naito's point. I dont think we'll really agree here. So agreeing to disagree is probably the healthy option

I think we're looking for two different things outta buildcrafting

[quaint nexus]

hello all, noob question, I can only reforge weapons that I have forged in the same NPC right?

[tropic charm]

u can reforge any weapon u own as long as u own a matching joinery

u used to need to rank up tuvalkane before you unlock reforging, don't know if it's still a thing

[long grove]

yeah think that's still rank 2

[quaint nexus]

ahh didnt know that, how do I get her rank 2?

[long grove]

claim completed stuff, so get building

[quaint nexus]

ok, so just build the items with her, thanks guys 🙏

[tropic charm]

i think u need to build 3 items per rank if stuff haven't changed? can be whatever (armour/weapons/totems/etc)

i've been playing since p4 so my early game progression info may be outdated

[smoky crater]

3 for rank 2, 4 for rank 3 is what it used to be back the in the day atleast

[iron compass]

i believe we shouldn't judge prisms or new systems before we get them

[somber haven]

anyone got more of em scrap brass

for a scrap it's pretty damn rare

[long grove]

if there's an endless taxi up, you could join and leave them repeatedly and raid the scrap in the endless room

if not, farm fort curlail. start the seige but don't finish it, just raid racks for brass

[somber haven]

and get more scrap iron and steel?

[long grove]

Also drops brass

helped someone get like 400 of it. and so did thrice, when doing that method.

[iron compass]

what are your opinions on combat?

for mages at least it feels a bit sluggish

and maybe unbalanced?

[smoky crater]

magick weapons are meant to be a bit of a low risk playstyle afaik

[iron compass]

either too hard or too easy and very sluggish for mages

[sly escarp]

Mages can turn into rapid fire turrets with damage that scales on each hit. They just need more investment but tend to become very good once built properly.

[iron compass]

i dunno about low risk cause if i am solo i get jumped

[smoky crater]

as for sluggish? dunno bout that one.
there's the combat art that increases attack speed when you stand still

[iron compass]

and cannot stand still at all

i need to dodge constantly

[sly escarp]

Are you using a Polished Feybalt on your Magick weapons?

[iron compass]

no idea what that is

[sly escarp]

Often a good upgrade to add if you haven't already.

[tropic charm]

solo vs group is a big difference for all playstyles

[sly escarp]

Ah, that explains a lot. Feybalt is the most powerful joinery in the game, and can only be applied to Magick weapons

Without it, they tend to be very lackluster

It adds stacking damage of consecutive hits, up to a cap

You can get Polished Feybalt fairly easily from Crypts sarcophagi

[iron compass]

thanks

[jade mountain]

i joined soulframe a long time ago without the invitations, so i cant invite 4 people in the game, how can i get 4 codes for my friends?

[halcyon thicket]

the email you were sent

oh, you need to get codes from streams, like today's stream

tell your friends to tune in and link their soulframe account to twitch

[somber haven]

How long till siege reset after it’s finished

[long grove]

3 hours

[dusty hare]

when my p is 13

[long grove]

[dawn arrow]

I just did 1800 damage with a flyblade 😮

[dawn arrow]

But how does throw distance that it comes with helpful to magick, do they mean increase range of attacks of staff/gloves?

[sly escarp]

Feybalt doesn't apply throw damage

It adds stacking damage on consecutive hits

[dawn arrow]

sorry meant throw distance

[sly escarp]

Projectile lock on range

[dawn arrow]

alright figured, thanks

[halcyon thicket]

damn the armored mockeries have been a WIP for a little over a year now

[sonic adder]

did preludes 13 release yet so i can finally download the game again

[halcyon thicket]

not yet

[finite stone]

just turn your notifications on for https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1153116764633321534, and you'll be one of the first to know

[dawn arrow]

you know, i collected all the motes and cleared all fog and yet I sitll didnt find the 3rd enclave "rose", not in a hurry as it will be my last enclave to join but it looks like i will need to read a guide in how to access it

[vagrant kayak]

The Enclaves are all relatively close together

[crystal edge]

bit bummed so much crate breaking in the game. feel tedious when everything else feels very fun.

[vagrant kayak]

You don't need to break every crate you know, you control the buttons you press

[regal quarry]

mostly I want to know why the people of Midrath are so bad at constructing barrels and crates. have you tried to smash a barrel or crate irl? it's really freakin hard! like, impossible! they're really sturdy!

and yet, despite being so bad at barrel and crate construction, their wooden doors are impenetrable.

[pliant sapphire]

maybe they abducted all the coopers but there are still a few carpenters left?

[lament nacelle]

I stumbled into it and i gotta admit... once i get the Sirin pact im swapping over to it as my main faction cause i love the npcs

[pliant sapphire]

Some progressively useful hints (not the full location):

1. ||The full tavern suggests that there is a settlement nearby.||
2. ||Since you can start with this faction, it can't be too far from the early areas.||
3. ||The settlement is coastal.||

I suggest leaving the third for a bit, that one is more powerful than the other two

[honest surge]

Someone else had worst fps?

I justo update the Game and it give me like 6 fps and before it give me up to 50

And im with the same configuration

[halcyon thicket]

verify and optimize files through launcher

[trim oriole]

Steve said update isnt today or tomorrow

its okay to go to bed

[dim swan]

prob not til friday 😮‍💨

[trim oriole]

Thrusdays not impossible, he just doesn't want to drop it today or tomorrow because warframe update is tomorrow.

He said this week for sure though so thats something

[uneven vale]

that leaves a good 3 day range unless they delay it again

[smoky crater]

Steve seemed pretty adamant on it being ready for this week 👀

[narrow condor]

did they disclose the drop rates at least for blessed Feybalt in cogah

[smoky crater]

we don't have any drop rates

[narrow condor]

ive done four round trips still no blessed

are the chances better on crypt?

[lean prawn]

Virtues rework sounds a lot more balanced and flexible than the first info made it seem. I'm cautiously excited.

[long grove]

I don't think cogah touches drop rates. feybalt only drops on coffins in the crypt and stag, yes tho

[smoky crater]

ye cogah doesn't buff anything other than enemy levels afaik

[trim oriole]

Still think grace sounds kinda bad

stealth and finisher attacks are few and far between outside flintsmoke and straight useless for bosses

[vague sorrel]

Hello everyone! I cant get my rat lady to lvl up past lvl 1. What am I doing wrong?

[long grove]

craft a new unique item

like a hue or new pot from your faction

assuming you've already made a cloud quell that is, in the end you need to make two things

[smoky crater]

or if the bond level indicator circle is full after you just claimed stuff, try going out and back into nightfold i guess

[vague sorrel]

Thanks pal

[uneven vale]

i don't think i've ever crafted a cloudquell lmao i gotta get on that

[smoky crater]

useful for nimrod fights

[narrow condor]

that makes sense, so it doesnt drop on Cogah 0.0 i was misinformed xD

back to the creepy crypt xD

[long grove]

well it can if you ever go in there during cogah. only things about drops that changes are boss pools. everything else should be the same

[uneven vale]

hit him enough he falls over no matter what lmao

[smoky crater]

true but it helps

[uneven vale]

yeah that's fair, i just never remember it tbh

[long grove]

it'll gain revalance again someday

[uneven vale]

i hope, main thing i'm hoping for with this game is more environmental variation tbh, the island we're on rn is kinda just a monobiome with slight changes

can get monotonous

[smoky crater]

Cassia might be an interesting place considering it's in the north

[lean prawn]

I expect we'll see a lot more content variation as we move out of Alpha. We're on what's intended to be the starter island. There's a whole planet of places to branch out to once the core systems are stabalized.

[smoky crater]

ye Midrath is part of a group of islands

[uneven vale]

give us classic progression lmao
fields/forests -> water -> desert -> snow -> lava

[lean prawn]

But grace also scales damage for several classes of weapons. Agree that its not as obvious a win as courage, but its better than it sounded before.

[uneven vale]

a whole archipelago as the open world with boats operating sort of like railjacks would be sick

[smoky crater]

which is possible

[smoky crater]

also not like you have to go only Grace either. you can go grace+courage or grace+spirit 👀

[uneven vale]

yeah i remember it's called tutorial island sometimes lol, i'm super interested to see what other environments they give us. We got a sneak preview in the stream that looks awesome

the whole fey caves thing

[trim oriole]

All virtues scale several classes of weapons

[smoky crater]

probably just a dungeon variant

[trim oriole]

Courage, heavy weapons and sword, Grace light weapons and bow, Spirit magic

[smoky crater]

although a very cool one

[lean prawn]

The original dev stream made it sound like grace only scaled bows and all melee scaled only on courage so this is a more veristile and adaptable system than what I was expecting.

I also like that they removed the "tax" on pact virtues. You can go straight to say Courage on your Grace pact to bump up HP without needing to spend any points in areas you might already have covered.

[trim oriole]

Courage gives HP,, Sprirt CDR, Grace Finsiher and Stealth damage

[lean prawn]

No mention of if stagger gets a virtue scale or if its totally armor.

[trim oriole]

just seems like you get nothing from grace like 90% of the time

[lean prawn]

All the weapons I like to run scale on grace now so...I'm at least eager to check it out. I will still need like 50.50 courage though in order to have any HP which I'm not excited about. Courage is still basically mandatory to some degree

[dawn arrow]

I dont feel comfortable that courage gives HP

[lean prawn]

That's a big concern potentially

[dawn arrow]

I liked that any virtue gives HP, but anyways ill just wait for update and see, i am pretty sur ein the end of the day their goal is to provide fun and a good product

[worldly estuary]

I've not read anywhere that that current virtues giving HP is going away. The way I read it is more that courage with give additional HP.
So, it might be that 1 point in Grace or Spririt would give 10 HP points, but 1 point in Courage would result in 15 HP points.

[trim oriole]

100% it will be that way

otherwise full spirit and grace builds would be nearly unplayable as enemies scale

[brittle nacelle]

that does make a lot more sense

[dire helm]

At least one of the bows is 50/50 with spirit I think.

[worldly estuary]

Yeah... it seems to just be the additions for how I'm understanding it.. whicg makes sense. Courage 2 tanking, Sprit to cooldown, Grace to lethality.

[dire helm]

The courage bow is probably still split with courage

[brittle nacelle]

especially since they wanted to stop the only courage builds with this update

[trim oriole]

IMO virtues should have been defence scalers

[dire helm]

They kinda will be, indirectly, due to the way armor looks like it's going to scale.

[trim oriole]

Courage Physical Armour, Spirit Magic Armour, Grace Sability

[dire helm]

From what they've said, too, it seems like spirit mages at least will get more magic armor, and they're changing some attacks to do more magic damage

Stability is an odd one though, since your tankier people are REALLY going to want that.

[iron compass]

i ll be honest i like the warframe modding system than the current system they have for scaling/improving

[brittle nacelle]

would be better if grace gave larger parry or dodge windows rather than stability

[trim oriole]

idea would be that Courage can take a hit, Spirit can tank magic attacks that would be mainly what they get hit by and Grance has dexterity, not tanky but if you get hit it wont stop you by getting staggered or knocked down

[dire helm]

I suppose, but what good is a ton of physical armor in combat if your build means you're always getting knocked down?

Everyone is going to want stability, melee doubly so.

I do like the idea of better parry windows, but really, I think having armor act as a layer between our defensive stats and our virtues is a smart play. It means they can tweak armor to fine tune those details for their classes rather than forcing courage tanks to spec into grace just to stay on their feet.

[trim oriole]

that sounds better than grace being a dead stat though

RN people will dump courage and spirit and not bother with grace

[dire helm]

Grace just needs to be a straight up DPS bonus, even if that's a smite/crit/backstab/whatever bonus, so long as it's generally applicable and isn't just sneak attacks.

[trim oriole]

and if you wanna play a grace weapon you will just attune cap and then go back to dumping courage and spirit

[dire helm]

The DPS pull is strong. It'll draw people into glass cannon builds.

[trim oriole]

rather than sneak and finisher damage

[dire helm]

Spirit's shorter cast time means folks focusing more on pact arcanics and heals and such, will see action there. My concern is that they'll make individual courage and grace arcanics too weak if you lean too far into spirit.

Courage may still stick around as a strong stat in solo play, but tank builds usually do in a lot of games, so that's probably fine.

But if either grace or spirit don't pull their own weight, whether due to their bonus being too situational, or arcanics depending too much on the other virtues, then we'll be in a hybrid-courage meta at best.

[uneven vale]

i wish i could tolerate playing tank builds in games lol, if i'm not a speedy glass cannon i just get bored a lot

[trim oriole]

Grace should be Specter Strike and maybe Throw Damage now i think about it

[dire helm]

I feel that. I roll mage in basically all fantasy games I play.

[dire helm]

I like where you're going here. Things that require finesse.

[uneven vale]

I also very much don't like long range lol, makes it hard to find people to play in like, hero shooters

[trim oriole]

Courage should give HP and Rippost damage

[uneven vale]

or MOBAs

[uneven vale]

from a practical perspective in that case all swords should be grace lol

[iron compass]

you need grace if your going for a mage build

because it gives damage

[sly escarp]

Grace gives damage to Bows, Flyblades, and short melees

[dire helm]

Attunement damage, yes, but there's some confusion because they keep implying it will give some kind of more generalized damage boost to certain things like sneak attacks.

They've been vague on exactly what is affected by grace though.

[trim oriole]

Sneak attacks and Finishers, thats it

[uneven vale]

well, from a practical perspective bows should always be strength, all swords and knives should be dexterity, and such. But the incorrectness is a staple so i jjust don't care atp

[trim oriole]

they said in the devshort earlier

[dawn arrow]

So if i want to go full courage i dont have a sidearm that naturally goes along with it?

[trim oriole]

ATM no

there wont be any courage side arms by the look of it

yet

[mystic sedge]

I'm sure there will be eventually

[uneven vale]

eventually it's likely, but in the short term i wouldn't bank on it for a bit

[trim oriole]

Actually

[mystic sedge]

I mean we're already starting to see blurred lines between primary and sidearm with Rostrum and Dual Blade in p13

[trim oriole]

by the look of it Thrice Spurn is still courage

[uneven vale]

im so hyped for the dual blades

[trim oriole]

guess they cant change that one since its wyld tethern weapon lol

[mystic sedge]

I would expect to see a Long Blade sidearm and Bow sidearm sooner than we'd think

[uneven vale]

true, gotta have the signatures fit the class

[dire helm]

"Grace will up the lethality of your Envoy; so that feeds into a few different systems with like, uh, finishers, um, stealth headshots, sneak attacks. And it has a bonus attunment on grace weapons to make them more powerful. So you end up with a lethal character"
-- rough quote from scott in the soulshort from earlier

[uneven vale]

unless of course you're a pure melee focused claass in which case you won't get a signature melee weapon, if we look at warframe

[dire helm]

The way Scott said that, it sounds like some kind of more general damage boost that somehow trickles down into lower systems.

[trim oriole]

not at all it doesnt

he means leathal becuase you will one shot with finishers and such 100% not you just get free damage

[dire helm]

Yet, it doesn't just sound like +damage

it's not some kind of universal damage boost, but it does sound like it feeds into a lot of mechanics somehow.

[mystic sedge]

I would agree with Demon. That doesn't read to me like Grace provides overall damage boost to multiple system. It COULD read that grace weapons have slightly higher scaling on them inherently. But thats about all I can read from it

[trim oriole]

Guess we'll have to wait and see but i think you are setting yourself up for disapointment with that line of thinking honestly

[uneven vale]

pre-combat changes i'd say grace impacting attack speed slightly would be a good addition, but with the repacing we'll see

[mystic sedge]

I think putting SF into the trinity box (tank/dps/support) is a pretty giant mistake

[dire helm]

If they don't do that, then they have to make grace do more, because otherwise it'll be DoA

[trim oriole]

I agree, but there is ofc room to grow in future

[iron compass]

which one was for magick weapons then?

[mystic sedge]

I dont think I agree with that. Stealth kills and finishers are a very important aspect of the game. Grace boosting that is very relevant

[sly escarp]

Spirit

[trim oriole]

ability DPS spirt builds, evasion tanks in grace, ect

[iron compass]

thank you

[mystic sedge]

Especially when you consider the powerhouse of Flintsmoke

[iron compass]

that is what i had

[trim oriole]

truth be told, im not worried

if it doesnt hit theres always P14

getta let them cook

[uneven vale]

in 8 months

[trim oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/10-gif-25608850

[dire helm]

p12 wasn't 8 months ago. They're moving quicker than that

4-6months I think

[uneven vale]

yeah it's been around 4

[trim oriole]

they will for sure make adjustments in p13 aswell though

[uneven vale]

just under once p13 drops

i'm very hesitant about the virtues rework, but i haven't had a chance to watch the breakdown yet

[trim oriole]

Im just here for the ride

[uneven vale]

it seems like it's just straight up removing customization in favor of solving a problem that could be solved by an exclamation point by ablities

[trim oriole]

we already had like 3 systems been and gone

this could just be another, or it will turn out good, wont know til we know

[keen hound]

Is the game data going to get wiped for full release

[uneven vale]

they've said no more resets

[dire helm]

They said they wouldn't do any more full game wipes, but you may still loose things sometimes after some updates if they change something significant.

[uneven vale]

and all the events they're holding would be kind of pointless if that happens lol

[dire helm]

We lost our motes, for instance, when they got pulled to later be replaced with the current rune system.

[trim oriole]

Organ yes

im not not excited for the bear, but its just another boss really

i was so sure that the Bromius Shield would come with Vadagar Bear but its seems not

Now that i think about it, new spirit virtue will be about abilities and cooldowns, but doesnt that mean spirit get ruined super hard by Cogah, basically negates your virtue investment lol

and also does that mean that they will pre nerf the CD on spirit abilites so they dont get crazy from spirit builds?

[dire helm]

Or maybe we negate cogah debuff with virtue investment?

[trim oriole]

doubt it

cogah debuff is like 300%

prob be lucky to get like 20% cdr from spirit at this stage

personally i dont like cogah as a mechanic

its too early in the games lifespan for there to be a "hard mode"

kinda just feels like a cheap way to add more drops to the same bosses atm

[polar pecan]

Just add a soft cap, let me know when I reached it and let me assign my points, please!

[digital fog]

rate the fit

[gleaming tusk]

I found out the hard way, I didnt forget a cuirass, it was a pact. I like the claws

[plucky glacier]

is there a thread for mockery translation? is this an old discovery?

[halcyon thicket]

It is an old one, and there is #1440841974826406032

[smoky crater]

just the number 7 that one ain't it?

[plucky glacier]

shii maybe I found the thread lol

[cold idol]

I missed the dev stream. Did they say when P13 will be released?

[smoky crater]

still all we have is this week, but not today or tomorrow

[finite stone]

yep and that's just ode language, no mockery language in merty's image

[smoky crater]

yeh

[rugged quail]

Ngl been playing a few days now and gameplay feels pretty solid. Reminds me alot of diviri in warframe. Currently a lil lost on the story of whatt exists of it so far but i enjoy the concept of protecting nature and the fey

[vagrant kayak]

Please don't ask for codes in the Discord If you missed the Envoy Hour, there'll be another one on the 24th https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469343055785103402

[urban yoke]

Hey I have a question is there going to be clans in soulframe or not

[vagrant kayak]

They said there would be yes

[half talon]

A much more focused, less stiff, and less “decree” driven duviri. But I love it!

[rugged quail]

I much prefer without the decree system as there the parrying and stuff became pointless after a short time. The methodical nature of this mixed with abilities gives it a more wild feel. I wouldnt mind seeing more finishers with each weapon and different per enemy to add more focus into the stagger aspect as im seeing alot more benifits on smiting rn for ability regen. Im curious on how the balancing act between the 2 will play out as i dont wanna see the defensive nature of the games combat to disappear

[elder magnet]

When will the game be available on Steam?

[half talon]

Hopefully later this year. You can add it as a non-steam game atm and play on steam deck

[elder magnet]

I can't play it. I really want to play it, but if they don't give me a code, I can't. That's quite annoying, to be honest. Wanting to play and not being able to.

[half talon]

They had envoy hour earlier you could’ve gotten a code for…

[elder magnet]

🙂

[finite stone]

They gave everyone a free code a couple of hours ago #soulframe-news message

But if you didn't grab that one, you can just get the next one in 2 weeks' time #soulframe-news message

[elder magnet]

In two weeks, hahaha, no thanks, good night

[tepid nexus]

Was about to DM him code but he left server lmao

Ah well his loss

[stark geyser]

He had options. not sure why he was complaining

[finite stone]

Clearly didn't actually care about the game if two weeks was too long lol

[graceful agate]

Sorry for the dumb question.. I bought a founders. I see the things in my inventory. How do I equip them?

[finite stone]

Go to the arsenal at the back of the tent in the Nightfold

[graceful agate]

Thank you!

Is it viable to mix weapon types or not a good idea. Like a Staff main and sharp dagger for sidearm

[stark geyser]

yes i use both weapons in big fights switching between them and using the heavy spinning attack with the daggers while fighting with main weapon

[worldly estuary]

yep. a lot of this as well is about setting things up for your prefered play style - and you can make them as you wish with whatever frame and weapon combo you like. 🙂

[amber bolt]

Do we have any news on some new wristcasters? I almost maxed out the second of them and I know there are only 2 of them so far 🥲

[mellow moat]

EB0C-4EAF-10E1-1EDD

[finite stone]

Yes, they're coming out on thurs/fri! They're called Basker's Wrest and they're jotar-themed fire casters

[amber bolt]

[mellow moat]

E796-824C-C7F8-0403

[worldly estuary]

pew pew.

[worldly estuary]

I like the wristcasters... they feel like funky hand guns 🙂

[dim wave]

Maybe a silly question but when a preludes update comes around, are faction swap timers reset or am I just on hopium?
Waiting in the meantime to swap in case some of the new loot is tied to factions

Cause a part of me assumes Kith of Kings will get the fireball sidearm and I don’t wanna swap rn to get stuck waiting a week if they are

[long grove]

prolly not, cuz that sounds like it'd affect daily and weekly timers. but if it helps, i don't think they'll attach that sidearm to kith, cuz otherwise they'd have to put all 3 new weapons in the store too. prolly attached to the new activity.

[vague sorrel]

Rat lady ran away 🙁

[mellow moat]

Giving away free codes. Once someone uses it the code will not work.

8399-65CD-4F7E-5C52

41BF-5390-921B-33E5

96F7-3F2D-BA5F-6727
5F0C-E322-6260-1660
87F6-1465-55A1-EA98

[tacit pebble]

I FINALLY GOT TO PLAY IT AND ITS SO FREAKIN COOL

[orchid dawn]

How do you get to play it

[dense schooner]

Thank you so much, I was at work and missed the stream, much appreciated.

[brave salmon]

How do you get the gathannan, purity, or dewelion?

[hushed obsidian]

gath is farmed from glades chests, purity is farmed from mendicant king

[brave salmon]

thankyou, wb the dewlion?

[hushed obsidian]

various sources, maybe the kearnhold siege or the sinecure-errant boss

[brave salmon]

Okay thanks

[vital mango]

can anyone give me tips for the bear playing oscilida i think i spelled the pact correctly?

[agile sage]

Hello, I am a player that played since 1st beta testing, I've then gotten busy for the year. I've just downloaded the game again and I am so lost, is there anyway i can restart progress?

[lime pumice]

Newish to soulframe / having gotten the three basic weapon types. Was just wondering if magic combat is going to be expanded on as it seems a little boring and how balanced ranged is to melee later on since bow and staff seem very strong atm?

[knotty moon]

If you have played so long before than it is likely you got reset already at the P6->P7 update.
If you have played more recently then no, but you can watch the Envoy Hours videos to see the start of the game (more or less, the intro section was updated since then, but the quest are replayable).

[knotty moon]

We got an update scheduled SOON™ (either this or next week most likely) that reworks the Virtues, weapons and armor, so the balance is about to change.

[meager tree]

So magic weapons are auto aim which makes them much easier to use than bows. The cool thing about magic is that not only is it easy to spam while you focus on mobility because all your shots hit, but when you stand still you get to unlock the symbols that give bonus to speed.

Magics heavy shots have enemy piercing so you can line up enemies and hit multiples.

Magic weapoms add a big variation to ranged combat and although hail of arrows is strong, the cumulative hit bonus from joineries can melt enemies.

Personally I love magic sidearms paired with a slower melee like polearm or greatsword

[lament nacelle]

kinda wish there were more f2p magic weapons rn so i could level them up more lmao. tho i gotta GET them first

[knotty moon]

Fairly sure some more are coming with P13.

[brazen ferry]

I need codes

[neat night]

.

[brazen ferry]

Not works

[mellow moat]

Do you need a code?

[brazen ferry]

Yes

[neat night]

ah no, above me ^

[brazen ferry]

Me

[mellow moat]

I got three. First three to DM gets the codes

wait I only got 2 left lol.

1 code left now. Who wants it

All out. Glad I could bring joy to your day Envoys! Many blessings!

[mellow moat]

Cant wait to get off work 😩 even though I work from home. These calls are non stop lol

[wooden silo]

How can I get access to play?

[fringe owl]

eu também, gostaria de saber Como posso ter acesso para jogar?
como ter um código ou convite?

Me too, I would like to know How can I have access to play?
How to have a code or invitation?

[gleaming tusk]

funny bug

[neat night]

"How do I get access to Soulframe?
Sign up: Soulframe.com and be invited via the Wednesday giveaway (2k codes every week)
Purchase a Founder's Pack, which will give you spare codes for your friends.
Watch a dev stream or Envoy Hour via Twitch

On occasion, Envoys will share codes in ⁠the channels here, but we ask that you do not beg.
You can also check social media, Reddit, or streamers who may run giveaways.
Attention: Selling/buying of codes is a violation of Soulframe's Terms of Service. Do not engage with third-party trades."

people tend to share keys here a lot though

[fringe owl]

Thanks Chibi

[neat night]

btw
I dm-ed you one

just found out that I have 1 left

[fringe owl]

HOo bro, you are so amazing

[neat night]

have fun

[gleaming tusk]

is everything shared in a coop? because my bf can't get orlick to spawn in the tower

[upbeat cradle]

the host is the one progressing, the other players are there just to help and get loot too

[wooden silo]

fala fabio fala

[somber haven]

Any consistent spawn location for the stag

[lament nacelle]

i have fought it a few times in the area next to the Mendicant King, but i think its cause it will spawn in the same area all day

and next day it changes

[somber haven]

A bunch of spawn points according to soulmap but none of them seem consistent

[lament nacelle]

yeah it probably one be EXACT coords as the three times i fought it yesterday were in the same general area, but still like 100m away from eachother

[upbeat cradle]

yeah it's because he can spawn in one of any of those spawn points

20 spawn points mean that he spawns in one of them, not that there's 20 stags

[somber haven]

ik, that makes it hard to farm

[lone crest]

the stag near the wraith of the wastes seems to spawn every night

or i got really lucky

[somber haven]

Not the case for me

[dawn arrow]

I could be imagining this but when you activate flintsmoke (short sword rune) on a sidearm and then switch to your primary and do the killing on the primary, are you getting the proper XP?

I did many killings but XP gain felt slower than usual specially that my primary is low rank

I was doing tales in the same time, so i am not sure if that xp was from the killing in first place

[rigid musk]

I know things on the map respawn and everything has a settled cooldown, as for example the cogah bosses have a change on the icon color when they are alive/dead. But what exactly triggers the respawn? I've tried a bunch of things, like walking back and forward from distance, triggering another event and returning, going to nightfold and returning. But nothing seems 100% accurate, they simply respawn randomly after the timer has passed. Am I missing something?

[modest crater]

Any other recipes to lvl up verminia rank 2 besides cloudquell, Sigil palette and shademaker? Cant find 20 synod's maiden at all, or even like one lying around in galvinars waste. or grynnetonque.

Got the grynnetonque req, she dissapeared running away, finally

[cold current]

I wish when playing with a friend that you dont have to start all over on the quest when you disband. my friend had to do his quest all over again after we disbanded the party.

[marble trench]

Hello, I seem to be stuck in SoulFrame. I just completed the Bear quest, but I still can't see the entire map, and I'm not strong enough to fight level 30 monsters. There's no way to upgrade my character.

[neat night]

I can help you

with open up the map I think

[marble trench]

yes pls, i'm so lost

[neat night]

yeh but later, I'm at work rn, will be home in a few hours

added u on the discord

[marble trench]

ty

[night marsh]

are the ones i circled visual bugs??? cause i know i dont have Skilter or the Wyld weapons

and that one fly blade LOOKS like Skilter

but i got Odiac and Virdigris

[neat night]

yes

there are some weapons that are bugged & duplicated in the compedium

[night marsh]

ahh okay thank you

i was going crazy hahahaha

oh my god i should of just searched the discord this bug has been reported so many times LOL

[narrow condor]

what do u do with your extra joineries

can they be sold somewhere

[iron compass]

does anyone have a guide for the best farm of each resources on soulframe?

[boreal mauve]

Is there a glossary or encyclopedia that explains certain things, such as what is punishment?

What is harmonization?

[foggy skiff]

is it just me with whom the staff rune sometimes does not do the aoe damage

like sometimes the blast does 0 damage and sometimes it wipes everyone in a 15m radius

[valid herald]

When will be the update release?

[finite stone]

The wiki has a glossary of terminology used by the playerbase: https://wiki.avakot.org/Glossary

It also has a glossary of important stats for characters/items: https://wiki.avakot.org/Stats

But punishment and harmonisation, as far as I can tell these are just regular words and nothing specific in SF? Like the word 'punishment' only appears in these two places on the whole wiki for example. Could you explain the context you're asking about?

[finite stone]

Latest estimate from DE is thurs/fri

[valid herald]

What is the best armour to be a dps?

[narrow condor]

is there a way to permanently display the compass

[foggy skiff]

go to settings in the search bar write compass and u will see the option to make it visible all the time

[frank marsh]

is p13 coming anytime soon

[finite stone]

Yep, thurs/fri this week

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[frank marsh]

ooh ish really

[finite stone]

It's DE's latest estimate so technically subject to change 😄

[frank marsh]

i joined at the perfect time then

[edgy hollow]

[lament nacelle]

So i have a question. say two people start a game with the intention to play together in the same instance the entire time. would they be able to fight the story bosses together? Or would they have to solo them/fight them twice for each person?

[frank marsh]

as far as i can tell you would have to fight them once for each of you

not 100% sure on that though

[lament nacelle]

but like you can fight together?

[frank marsh]

i think so

pretty sure everything is playable coop

[lament nacelle]

okay good, i got two keys from the stream and gave them to a streamer couple i mod for so I wanted to get some info on multiplayer functions if they ever had questions should they ever want to play it on stream

[frank marsh]

as far as i know all of the content can be played witha friend but you gotta do it for each of you cuz host holds prpgression

[foggy skiff]

i think some stories are solo some are co op

[foggy skiff]

did not know that

[frank marsh]

thats what i was told by some one with a couple weeks playtime so take it how you will

[frosty nebula]

You can do them together although i was told in here to do them alone since the quests can bug out for you if done in coop. Also happened to me with one quest that i couldnt restart or progress on my own to a certain point. But you can still try it ofc ^^

[lament nacelle]

maybe by the time they get around to trying it out it will be in a more stable state lmao

gotta let them cook

[frosty nebula]

Yeah it will be solved at some point and doesnt suck that hard when you start fresh with all the other content available at least imo

[north trail]

im trying get to the island with the last world tree did they patch the water walk to get there

[finite stone]

No it's still possible, just very long, from east side of the isle all the way around to the north

[north trail]

is it worth it

[lusty pendant]

if you're really bored 😁

[finite stone]

not unless you like the journey, because you can just get someone to teleport you there in seconds

[lament nacelle]

i might look it up just to get there for the lols. or just ask for a taxi if i get bored

[north trail]

taxi anyone?

how do i find a taxi tho

[finite stone]

you ask in the in-game chat 'can someone please taxi me to island'

[north trail]

ohh okee

[valid herald]

Best armour for dps?

[smoky crater]

armor or pact?

armor doesn't affect your damage output in any way

[somber haven]

Any other courage bows aside from blitzel

[smoky crater]

nope

[iron compass]

is it a bug? I bought orengal pact fro avakot and got nothing

when you get it from him isn't it built already? If not i wasted 20k dracs for nothing

and also received absolutely nothing

was i supposed to maybe get some resources or something?

[sturdy nova]

You got the blueprint for it - go to the blacksmith to craft and then use

[iron compass]

i already had it wtf

from the quest

why do you get an option to get the same pact twice

[sly escarp]

In case you sell your first one

[iron compass]

am i mixing something up or something?

now i feel ultra scammed

[sly escarp]

It's there so you can reacquire the pact if you sell it

[sturdy nova]

because you can sell it, re-buy it and use it again for leveling your MR (Envoy Rank). exactly the same as in Warframe, same system

[sly escarp]

Otherwise you'd be unable to get it again, as it only drops once from the quest.

[iron compass]

no way to get my dracs back i guess right? And they can't make it clear that it is just a blueprint?

man this triggered me so badly it is so stupid

[sly escarp]

When you buy it there's a little symbol on it that indicates it's a fragment. It could be clearer though.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1470646745968148735/1470832092085620747/image.png?ex=698d6361&is=698c11e1&hm=7341a24fd16b8c5b7f1b2cb7813e7e41789fdfee18d2cc6f818d0392b9ea3096&

[iron compass]

it should be much clearer

like actually say blueprint or show a blueprint backfground or soemthing like in warframe

i thuoght it just meant that it was an equiable good

because of that sign

[valid herald]

Sorry pact

[iron compass]

i am so glad i didn't make the mistake of buying all of them

[valid herald]

I think thetern is most broken now right?

[smoky crater]

Tethren would probably be the best for dps atm yeah

[sly escarp]

That symbol always means fragment in the game. They should explain it better in a tutorial or something, but it's a pre alpha so that may come sometime in the future.

[valid herald]

Ok and one question whick better armour to be more resistant the npcs deleted me by 3 shots hahahaah

And better weapon dps?

[sly escarp]

Depends on what you have equipped

And what your current virtue playstyle is.

[smoky crater]

mendicant king, mockery, orengall and uhhh i think there's 1 other set aswell on top that are mostly equal for the best armor available

[dawn arrow]

Oro's Well chest, do I actually have to find it without any marker? Like i cant tell where is the chest, the map is big

[sly escarp]

King, Mockery, Orengall, Bromius are all the tier 3 sets

[smoky crater]

a ye bromius thas the one

[sly escarp]

It gives you an image, and you have to recognise the surroundings to go find it

[smoky crater]

the chest is always gonna be in the area west from the well but yeah you have to find it based on the image you're shown

it's not a huge area that they can spawn in

[dawn arrow]

I gotta say, this just made the game even more fun. Now I will mesmorize all of midrath :3

[smoky crater]

basically this is the area for where it can spawn, excluding the northern third of it iirc

can see Fort Curlail in the bottom right corner

[dawn arrow]

Thanks, some players and their dedication amaze me

[smoky crater]

just an old map i found from the old preludes discord of the area we had available to us before preludes 9

this is the actual area
with some added markers on it but was the only version i could easily find of the OG play area

[dawn arrow]

saved thanks

[abstract badge]

I did the exact same thing. It's OK, it'll start raining dracs sooner than later.

Got my purity fragments last night, 3 in a row. I was ecstatic.

[valid herald]

Is there an option to get easily drops of armour? Or is 100% rng

[abstract badge]

rng

[valid herald]

Nice

[abstract badge]

Though generally if an enemy is wearing it they have a chance to drop it, I think

Which set?

[valid herald]

I hope in future updates the world would be more populated with npcs with quests or seeing other players running by the map

[abstract badge]

The next update (this week I think?) adds some sort of bounties

[valid herald]

It seems a bit empty the world but is very very beautiful

[abstract badge]

Well, they're all pretty dead

[dawn arrow]

Ahh i suck, i went to all of them couldnt find it, are the markers showing the general area or exact position?

[smoky crater]

the markers aren't for the chests*

forgot to clarify

[dawn arrow]

It showed me a vision its on a hill when houses a little far. All those areas have houses lol 😂

[smoky crater]

you can interact with the well to see the vision again

[abstract badge]

I've tried that vision thing like, 3x. Gave up. I can never find it

I just go to the well for the gauranteed merchant spawn

[dawn arrow]

found it! how often can i do this? I was looking for brass and got it

[smoky crater]

you can do the vision chests from oro's well as many times as you want

there's no limit to those

[abstract badge]

Is it usually close to the well?

[dawn arrow]

It was in Garren Shrine as shown by the picture @smoky crater sent above

Although i went to the well again and it is showing me the same vision but chest is opened. I guess there is some kind of cooldown?

[smoky crater]

didn't use to be but maybe they've done something to them in the last 1.5 years that i haven't touched them

[dawn arrow]

Also well is kinda bugged which reported in the bug sections, if i try to view it again quickly everything get stuck but camera moves, must type /unstuck

[smoky crater]

wacky

[dawn arrow]

relogged and now showed a new chest

[valid herald]

When is planned to launch the game officially?

[smoky crater]

no info

[iron compass]

will this bug get fixed?

[smoky crater]

2+ years is likely

[iron compass]

if you sprint and press f to loadout you get stuck in inf animation

[iron compass]

that's crazy

[smoky crater]

ngl i have never had that happen ._.

might get fixed with P13 ig?

[smoky crater]

ok so it's probably the same as with the history motes for locations, requires either a certain amount of time to pass or a world reload

[dawn arrow]

So this shield rune, When I hold right click (blocking) I am channeling a light beam, i thought I do damage per parry as per description

[smoky crater]

ye the description is misleading

or... incorrect

actual effects

[abstract badge]

This polearm any good? Had a pretty great run last night and got a few fragments I really wanted.

[smoky crater]

it is good yes

[abstract badge]

After I get Purity to 30 I might try polearms

I just finished the other two greatswords last night

[dawn arrow]

If you care, rank 19 gives you 4 combat art points and the last 5th point is at rank 30.
So I like playing different weapons to 19 and change, so by the time i return to them for rank 30, i'd be having a nice skill tree filled.

[abstract badge]

Oh good call. Thanks for the info, I didn't know what that skill point breakdown was

[finite stone]

Heads up for future reference you can see it in the full table on https://wiki.avakot.org/Leveling:

(the three columns)

[abstract badge]

!? You can play Regatta against other players!

[finite stone]

Yup! They added Regatta PvP with Preludes 12, you play it with other players in Social Hubs such as Enclaves or the Eternium Gardens, by interacting with an Envoy who's performing the Sit emote

[dawn arrow]

no way, I so want to try that, love some Regatta

[somber haven]

What should I focus on farming rn before p13, I heard thawtide armor is time gated but I already got a bunch of them

[long grove]

can finish it up now, but it'll come back next year in some form or another

[abstract badge]

I finally got grimguise last night. Make sure you get the thawtide items before the patch. Both weapons, both helmets, the other gear, the charm, and two skins for the bird

[long grove]

I'd at least make sure you got the weapons for mastery reasons

[smoky crater]

if you already have the thawtide stuff, 2 weapons, talisman, armor set (2 helmets), not really much to focus farm tbf

[somber haven]

2 helmets?

[smoky crater]

mhm

one with a facemask, one without

[somber haven]

Oh

Meltcap

[finite stone]

(for reference, everything is listed for you on https://wiki.avakot.org/Thawtide)

[smoky crater]

oh yeah the 2 bird skins are there too

[somber haven]

All of them drop from the red hats?

[abstract badge]

yup

[smoky crater]

bird skins only drop from repairing the squawker with your own seeder, other than that yeah

[abstract badge]

Two bird skins you need to craft a seeder and place it in a broken squawker

[smoky crater]

tho the charm atleast used to mainly drop from breaking the seeder with a rare chance from the hunters

[abstract badge]

Anything we should do with all the seeders we pulled from the squawkers?

[smoky crater]

nnnope

inventory decoration just like all other spare fragments

[finite stone]

in fact didn't you illustrate this quite nicely the other day 😂 #gameplay-discussion message

[smoky crater]

mmmmaybe

[royal rampart]

Hey guys I'm a bit lost, is there supposed to be a quest after the bromius one? ive just been roaming around grinding for stuff

[sly escarp]

If you did Shewolf Snared, you're likely done

[long grove]

they're a bit order free, but you can check the fables 4th tab down in your journal. if you have 8 total and they're all done, you're caught up.

[royal rampart]

i have actually,

[royal rampart]

i see i see

thanks yall!

[tacit leaf]

Why tf on the wiki (fextralife) elderbloom has light icon

[halcyon thicket]

Fextralife seems to be inaccurate

[tacit leaf]

i see

[halcyon thicket]

According to many players

[somber haven]

Thanks, just finished my collection

[halcyon thicket]

Use avakot wiki

wiki.avakot.org

[tacit leaf]

i just quicksearched for the max pact level cap

and was the first one, but i usually use wiki.avakot

[halcyon thicket]

Apparently fextra just takes advantage of Google's messy SEO

So they know how to rank their links at #1

Without actually providing value

[bitter tide]

Hello guys. so i played everything through in 1 week, every weapon every quest... i grinded a bit but thats ok. But this what is now online active is not worth what it is sold for. The quests after the ´´mainstory´´ are repetitiv. I grinded them. My question now is..is there any roadmap, when next big updates, content gameplay is coming? Yes the game is nice, its buggy, the system is nice, but its getting boring very quick.

[round swan]

I am about to start hunting down mendicant king. Does he only spawn at night?

[sly escarp]

It's a pre alpha so content is limited. We're getting major systems changes and a new combat activity in p13

[sly escarp]

Nope

Any time of day

[round swan]

thanks

[bitter tide]

yeah i know. but the prealpha is since 7 months, thats long enough to get some more stuff to do out.
so new combat activity means just 1 more rare boss and thats it?

[finite stone]

this what is now online active is not worth what it is sold for.

Soulframe is a free to play game, it does not cost anything to play

[sly escarp]

They're adding an activity to conquer an enemy fort in a few locations, a complete overhaul of the virtue system, character customization options, a new armour set, and 3 new weapons

And it's been a pre-alpha for far longer than 7 months

[tacit leaf]

Where can i farm pact XP?

[sly escarp]

Game development takes time, and the systems for the game are not even locked in yet, which takes time to overhaul. They said they're primarily doing systems changes for the first half of the year in the Devstream as well

[sly escarp]

Arena,s NW faction tales, Cogah if you have it unlocked, there's a few good options.

[somber haven]

What’s arena

[bitter tide]

hm sadge. feeling that the gamerelease wont be before 2030

[sly escarp]

A 20 wave enemy fight that rarely spawns in Glades dungeons

[sly escarp]

Well, yeah, it's likely years out from release

[somber haven]

Oh it used to be called endless or something

[bitter tide]

yes ´´endless´´ but its 20 waves

[somber haven]

Yes it was endless before

[abstract badge]

It's only endless till it ends

[calm crown]

I wish there was a faster way to find out if it spawned in the Glades (other than just running to every corner of the map)

I just wanna rank up some short blades, ffs.

[languid escarp]

there are so many of them

[frigid spoke]

Just play the game, don't try to rush everything.

[languid escarp]

been doing short blades forever

[tacit leaf]

Chat is it normal that Mora's Hand first ability aims at you instead of the front?

[long grove]

keep an eye on recruiting tab. there's often a taxi(a player who brings others to a location) or someone running it

[frigid spoke]

You should read what that one does. AoE fire. Don't stay in fire imo

[tacit leaf]

when you cast the ability the ability creates a cone that aims at you

imo should be to enemies in front?

[frigid spoke]

Ignus wroth sets the ground on fire around the envoy

[somber haven]

Farming this game everyday reminds me of destiny 2

[tacit leaf]

in spanish it doesnt specifies

[frigid spoke]

Yeah, dunno the Spanish translation. This means the ground around you gets put on fire, if you happen to be in it, you take damage also. It's not the best pact imo.

[ivory bloom]

Can someone invite me? I don't have access to the game.

[smoky crater]

there's a stream on the 24th you can get a code from as a twitch drop

[tacit leaf]

In spanish it only says that the ground is put on fire. Doesnt say where or how

[tacit leaf]

Pay

[frigid spoke]

No, don't "need" to pay

[tacit leaf]

I know but its fun

[frigid spoke]

...

[ivory bloom]

oh thanks brother