gameplay-discussion

[halcyon thicket]

you know what faction tales look like on the map?

[frozen ether]

only thing ive come to is to plant with friends and choose a random number

[rugged yoke]

Got it - ty!! 😄

[willow ocean]

Fun fact: The area code for Cape Canaveral (in Florida, where NASA is) is 321. Intentionally.

[rugged yoke]

My guess was in the ballpark lol

[turbid ridge]

That's actually pretty interesting. I've lived in Florida and never knew

[willow ocean]

I'm in Orlando and some of it bleeds over into local numbers here

[red kraken]

I see, yeah that takes less time if thats the case. I was trying to figure out what made it happen and I guess there is more than one way nice

[willow ocean]

My work phone starts with 321

[halcyon thicket]

mhm, bonus fact for fashion purposes is ember's visual effect stays on if you cast it and change pacts before it runs out

[open sail]

<2 hours game time. 26hrs total real time.

[rugged yoke]

Noted - ty!!

[frozen ether]

why cant i see my friend in eternium gardens?

[brittle nacelle]

are you both in the same garden?

[frozen ether]

yes

[smoky crater]

region related?

[frozen ether]

he is america but idk why that would affect us

[brittle nacelle]

possible that the game seperates regions to reduce lag

[sly escarp]

It does, chat and enclaves are seperated too

[frozen ether]

why why why

: (

[brittle nacelle]

so you don't have people spazaming around

[sly escarp]

Just swap your game server region

In the launcher

[brittle nacelle]

it's also in the in game settings

[frozen ether]

is there a way to see ping after?

[brittle nacelle]

don't think there's ping in the social hubs you just might not be able to see each other's emotes and move weird

[frozen ether]

i can see him now after switching regions thanks guys

im hoping this doesnt couse any issue with planting

[wind mauve]

so this explains scripps issue earlier

im p10 old

[frozen ether]

oosh

so ill just have to delte tier 1

[wind mauve]

i thought its a bug, didnt expect we had benefits

[frozen ether]

wait so you get more slots than me bc you were p10?

[silent grove]

How long after signing up,playing , getting profile setup on the forum can we can expect to be able to post there? No rush, just planning ahead.

[wind mauve]

so it seems, but i havent read (or probably missed) ay mentions on p11 patches

[frozen ether]

thats so out XD

its fine i guess ill just sell the tier 1s can you buy more than 1 extra weapon slot?

[wind mauve]

we got additional arcs too due to the new stuff that was introduced in p11

[wind mauve]

if its the same as warframe then there should be no limit to it

[silent grove]

I'll go look in q and a in the mean time havent found an answer yet, posting for others with the same question.

[brittle nacelle]

if you can catch the stream at the end of the month than that, if not then the invites on wednesdays are random, could be this week could be when the game exits the private alpha pahse

[smoky crater]

you should have 100 Arcs to buy weapon and pact slots with. pact slots are 20, weapon ones 10.

[frozen ether]

would you suggest buying weapon slots?

and its not worth keeping tier 1s 2s is it?

[drifting cape]

well there arent many tier 3 weapons right now

[frigid spoke]

I'd buy slots, prob is, with this being pre-alpha, you never know what will change

[frozen ether]

true

is there a photo mode?

[frigid spoke]

f6

[frozen ether]

thanks

[smoky crater]

weapon slots are the only things i'd suggest buying. and yes

[frigid spoke]

or f12 if you added it so steam, just takes a pic

[frozen ether]

i mean like free cam**

[drifting cape]

you think they will remove slots?

[smoky crater]

there will be eventually

[smoky crater]

no.

[frozen ether]

id assume theyd give u arcs back if they did ?

[drifting cape]

i was asking to this

[smoky crater]

f2p game, slots are a not too bad way to monetize

[frigid spoke]

No, slots being removed would be terrible. Weapons could change to worse or better, never know.

[drifting cape]

ah, well yeah that's true

[wind mauve]

this is how i do things in warframe, but unfortunately, profile is still not up yet (a library where you can see weapons / pacts that you have mastered)

not unless its easy for you to monitor, then removing the ones you mastered and you dont like is ok

[wind mauve]

they wont, this is how the game earns for a living, they will probably implement trade soon where you can trade arcs from other in-game items just like the structure they did in warframe

[frozen ether]

how many weapon slots would you suggest buying?

[frigid spoke]

a few at a time

[frozen ether]

so even if i havent maxed it i should be removing all t1s? asuuming theyd be useless

[drifting cape]

no

level them first

[frozen ether]

what is the difference

[drifting cape]

leveling weapons is how you get mastery

[frozen ether]

ah ok

[frigid spoke]

weapon lvl is tied to your envoy rank

[drifting cape]

well, part of it

[wind mauve]

you get exp for envoy level (the one that gives you stats) for each weapon / pacts you max

[drifting cape]

and motes

[frozen ether]

so i should be crafting all max rank it and sell

[drifting cape]

mostly motes

[frozen ether]

other than weapons that have good stats

[drifting cape]

yes if youre gonna sell weapons do it at max rank unless you really don't think youll care

[wind mauve]

yes, or collect all high tier variants and dispose the rest

[rough rampart]

Hey, Does anyone know how long bosses take to respawn?

[drifting cape]

30 mins

[frozen ether]

so buy slots to store high tiers only

whats considered high ?

[drifting cape]

except mendicant king sometimes, hes bugged

[rough rampart]

Thanks

[drifting cape]

can be 3 hours for him

[wind mauve]

thats my optimal take on it

[drifting cape]

rn not every weapon type has 3*

so just whatever the BiS weapon is for that type

though you probably want to keep ones for different virtues

[rough rampart]

Whats the max pact level?

[drifting cape]

30

[rough rampart]

Thanks

[frozen ether]

yeah this is crazy

[tropic nacelle]

soon this page won't even fit the screen 😭

[frozen ether]

i cant store nearly close to that

[drifting cape]

i plan on hoarding every weapon myself

[frozen ether]

did you buy slots

[tropic nacelle]

I bought Founder's so I can buy a ton of slots, yeah

[frozen ether]

ohhhh ok ok

[drifting cape]

there is no way to get slots other than money rn

[frozen ether]

520k

[frozen ether]

thats wild

[tropic nacelle]

you can only have 12 loadout slots too and I'm maxed out on that

[frozen ether]

why does my weapon slot not show how many ive bought?

[rough rampart]

If youve bought founders theres not really anything to buy exept slots.

[frozen ether]

it keeps resetting

[tropic nacelle]

and Moonsteel Thread, yeah

I've transmogged all my armors I got just because I could aha

[rough rampart]

Im just sat here with 1.1k and nothing to do with it

[tropic nacelle]

hope we get more cosmetic stuff

[wind mauve]

i havet cosumed a thing yet

[frozen ether]

should i buy max weapon slots?

[drifting cape]

wdym max

[frozen ether]

idk

[tropic nacelle]

there's no max cap for slots

you'd waste so much Arcs

[frozen ether]

lol imagine

[frigid spoke]

like I said, buy a few at a time. You don't have all the weapons so why buy slots for something you don't have yet?

[tropic nacelle]

honestly I just have the surplus of Weapon slots because...why not, and 2 extra spaces for slots.

[frozen ether]

true true

[wind mauve]

this is true, really preference based

[tropic nacelle]

ye ye

in Warframe I tend to have extra slots just in case

and I'm a collector there, and as well as here in Soulframe

[drifting cape]

yeah i only sell wf weapons that have a better version

[tropic nacelle]

I keep all versions, I really only do that for Primed Frames, Just because I like seeing different riven stats

[frozen ether]

im sort of thinking i want to keep 1 of everything i dont know why

[tropic nacelle]

I do it because some weapons look cool

[wind mauve]

really preference based and valid

[frozen ether]

for eg wulder sord to me isnt worth using but i feel like keeping it?

u can just re craft it as many times as u like tho right?

so in a way it doesnt matter

[smoky crater]

you can recraft things but you'll need to relevel them aswell

[wind mauve]

yes but you have to re-level it every time you re-craft it

[frozen ether]

hmmmm

[pine warren]

I need those arcs

[drifting cape]

all i know is that you must not sell your vasp-vi

[frozen ether]

hmmmmmm choices choices choices

[drifting cape]

you might never see another

[wind mauve]

keeping everything is also valid, its what you call future proofing, things might get tweaked, things might get overhauld / revamped

we dont know, the possibility is endless due to it being in alpha, even in warframe they used to re-visit old weapons specially those who are identified as 'fodder' weapons

[frozen ether]

see thats what i mean

i guess ill find myself buying a slot for every new weapon i craft

that sounds expensive

[drifting cape]

personally in this im fine with selling off my tier 1 weps

[wind mauve]

im the complete opposite tho, i just want few weapons at my disposal

[rough rampart]

Hey, Whats the best bow for tetheren or courage. I can craft blitzel but am wondering if there are better bows.

[drifting cape]

but all the tier 2s and 3s im keeping

juniper is best bow right?

[wind mauve]

you can recraft juniper to courage if courage is your main stat

[drifting cape]

how does maestro compare

[frozen ether]

is it worth wearing a 3 3 3 talisman if im all courage

[sly escarp]

Starling barely edges out Juniper but Junpier is best if not a founder atm

[smoky crater]

pretty sure blitzel juniper and maestro are all very close to each other in terms of how good they are

[frozen ether]

does spirit and grace have benifits besides

[rough rampart]

Seem to be short on fragments for that one. How can I get fragments for juniper?

[wind mauve]

sorry i think its no longer possible or i just lacked joineries

[smoky crater]

there are 3 special stumps with echo statues on them that give the fragments for it. all in the "starting area"

[drifting cape]

you just lack joineries

[sly escarp]

Needs to be a Blessed by Mora joinery

Then you can reforge to Courage

[rough rampart]

Ok thanks

[tropic nacelle]

Kith of Kings sells Mora Blessed Joineries

[rough rampart]

Only level 3 clan😭

[tropic nacelle]

😭

[wind mauve]

ahh yeah they joineries i have arent for bows, i just checked, thanks

[frozen ether]

im not sure if my xp bar was glitched i shouldve been able to rank my faction up and its gone down by 10k

[opaque jasper]

How does Feybalt effect charge attacks?

I don't typically use regular shots with magicks

[frozen ether]

are na and eu recruitment chat split?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[frozen ether]

ah ok

[halcyon thicket]

heavy attacks?

[frozen ether]

odd they add a region chat option when recruiting is your region anyway

[opaque jasper]

Yeah

I have my arts set up for blasting groups of enemies rather than rapid fire single targets

[halcyon thicket]

to seperate things, region is, well, kind of general chat i suppose

[frozen ether]

i guess

[halcyon thicket]

iirc feybalt does scale charge attacks, so if you deal consecutive ones you should see an increase in damage

[opaque jasper]

Cool

[frozen ether]

do you think it would affect me much to play in na ?

[halcyon thicket]

nah

there will be ping issues, and you might encounter gameplay problems but nothing major

[wind mauve]

only in coop, if you play on NA but would like to do coop from the people in south pole, you willl probably have latency issues

but if you play as solo, regardless of region, you are fine

[frozen ether]

it was only that my friend i play with 90% of the time is na

[visual radish]

we don't play on servers so yeah will be fine

[visual radish]

well that's all up to the conection between you two since the game is peer to peer

[wind mauve]

where are you from? Im on SEA region

NA-to-SEA mostly has better latency vs SEA-to-SEA

case in point, i coop with my wife, same room, same connection, considerably stable ISP = 400ms
i coop on public in NA = 200-300ms

[halcyon thicket]

wait what

[frozen ether]

SE engl to wherever he is

[wind mauve]

we basically have a third wheel NA friend

[halcyon thicket]

you got 400 ping from joining a PC next to you?

[visual radish]

wait you are letting the NA friend host?

[wind mauve]

yes because network topology of the game doesnt really make it like a LAN set up

[halcyon thicket]

no but are you both on WiFi?

[wind mauve]

yes , sometimes, but not always

[frozen ether]

i host usually but if i switch my region to na i would like to know the ms difference is there a spot for that?

[visual radish]

well that's the only reason you are getting 400ms

[torn condor]

türk yok mu girip az takılalım

[visual radish]

nah was talking about Ads' situation

[frozen ether]

ah

is there a place to see ms?

[wind mauve]

cable, we dont do UDP settings tho, since this config is tied to our ISP, making such request everytime we up a game that requires such configuration is a hassle, cannot be bypass even if we use an external modem

[visual radish]

like if the host is far away then of course you two are gonna have high ping regardless of being close to eachother

because the host isn't close

[wind mauve]

it has been like this all these years for me, since warframe, for a decade now

[halcyon thicket]

yes, settings, video, show fps

[wind mauve]

yes im a WF founder and pioneer

[visual radish]

yeah warframe always used peer to peer

[halcyon thicket]

fiber?

[wind mauve]

yes

[visual radish]

and so does soulframe

[frozen ether]

thanks ill have to see waht its saying when hes back

[halcyon thicket]

oh you said there are restrictions from your ISP?

[wind mauve]

yes

in SF

I dont coop a lot so i have this on default 300, but in warframe, im so bored playing solo i just have to increase ping limit to 400

[visual radish]

so the 400 ms was when playing with just your wife, so SEA to SEA.

or was it with the NA host which adds a very big wrinkle

[wind mauve]

just with my wife

its faster if people from NA hosts, most of the time

[visual radish]

i am honestly bafled

[wind mauve]

im honestly baffled for years, so much so that i got numb and just went along with it

[visual radish]

so confusing

[halcyon thicket]

it's the ISP restriction mixed with the way DE's servers work

peer to peer relies on UDP

heavily

[visual radish]

well that's the thing there aren't servers for gameplay so mid match it shouldn't have high ping if i understand it correctly

[wind mauve]

i do however know the cause, its really just the UDP settings, i was able to do such config when i was living with my parents then, because ISP there can be tweaked

but when i transferred location, ISP in our llocal had rules that we cant request to adjust for it

[halcyon thicket]

wdym

[visual radish]

the server we select in the settings isn't a server you play on

it's for public matchmaking and chat

which soulframe doesnt have public matchmaking yet anyway

[wind mauve]

it felt like the request is not purely peer-to-peer, if it was, then we wouldnt be talking about it

its like there's a middle-man regardless of where you host

[visual radish]

you only communicate with the DE servers when saving progress

[sly escarp]

Well, that and chat but that's a seperate thing.

Also in Enclaves

[visual radish]

yeah DE only hosts public spaces, saving progress, and chat

the matches, missions, however you call it are player hosted as far as i understand

[sly escarp]

Yep!

Player hosted, the peer to peer connection may have a route through but not sure.

Shouldn't be a massive deal anyways.

[visual radish]

because they don't want to maintain and pay for "gameplay" servers

[sly escarp]

Oh, there;s one other time you make a server call: log in

[wind mauve]

yeah, the routing part, sorry im IT but on a different field, im out of practice on the networking side

[sly escarp]

Hard to validate you exist and have an account without it!

[wind mauve]

i am on NA right now, i tried looking for endless, i didnt receive any ping warnings 😅

[scarlet socket]

Hey what the best way to get a code to play with my friend

[sly escarp]

There's a handy pinned post in #envoy-gathering that has some useful info!

[scarlet socket]

Thank you will check it out

[dim wave]

Enjoying the game so far but what exactly is current endgame content? I know about Cogah, the endless wave stuff, and that one dungeon with puzzles. Anything else at the moment or is that what I should strive for rn with farming and stuff?

[drifting cape]

faction standing

and more faction standing

and then some more faction standing

[tropic nacelle]

This game is still in Alpha, they're not going to be worrying about Endgame when most of the systems in the game are still heavily subject to change

[severe epoch]

When do Ode'n Bisulcam's spawn? I checked all of the spawn places and cant get one to appear

[drifting cape]

try some t2 bounties

around where they spawn

ive seen them randomly around but yea its not guaranteed

[severe epoch]

aight ty

[wind mauve]

that is the current end-game content as of the moment

[dim wave]

Fair enough. Got more farming to do before cogah anyways so it works out for a while

Just wish there was a faster way to farm faction rep than just spamming tier 3 tales

[wind mauve]

i hear they placed a 16k standing limit, was lucky i unlocked all to t5 except for avacot faction

[dim wave]

No shot man I really wanted to get my hands on Mora before switching factions

Oh wait did you mean daily limit? Cause I’m probably not reaching it at the rate I’m earning anyways

[opaque jasper]

T1's are actually faster

More standing, complete's faster

It's kind of silly tbh

[dim wave]

Wait lmao that is so funny

[opaque jasper]

What I do when grinding is spam T1's and T2's in the NorthEast region

Get 16k in like an hour ish

[dim wave]

Holy moly bro. I’m gonna need to try that when I’m home unless I did hit the cap

[wind mauve]

honestly id rather do three T1 than doing one T3, because T3 sometimes forces you to go dungeon, which is in turn, too time consuming and not proportionate to standing reward

most of the time, birdy misleads me to a wall as well 😅

[dim wave]

Very true honestly

Honestly the nicest thing about this being a super early build is there’s literally not enough content in the faction shops to take up too much time before swapping

[wind mauve]

resource wise, dungeons got richer tho

[dim wave]

I’m planning on getting Mora and maaaybe some other stuff before dipping for Alca’s Children since I need to get my hands on the wolf armor

[drifting cape]

orengalls armor being in alcas is weird

[dim wave]

Given the state of the game it makes sense. Can’t exactly dress like Avakot rn

[opaque jasper]

Alca's is the Spirit faction and Orengall boosts your spirit so kinda makes sense to me

[wind mauve]

i mostly just do

• all pacts available for the faction
• the color palette
• the potion recipe

then jump to the next

[drifting cape]

especially undercity. never do undercity t3. glades, at least you can look for endless

[dim wave]

But yeah compared to Garren Rood and the Omen Bear it’s weird one of the bit animal characters has armor relegated to a faction instead of world events

[drifting cape]

and its a lot shorter than undercity

[wind mauve]

i maybe unlucky but i never experienced glades on the highest level bracket

[drifting cape]

lol yea true

[wind mauve]

just the deep cold undercity

[drifting cape]

just depends what youre nearest i think. in NE all i get is glades

[opaque jasper]

Thing that annoys me about T3's taking me to a dungeon is the end of the dungeon relocating me

[drifting cape]

once in a while i do get undercity but yea thats an instand abandon

[opaque jasper]

But, you can just log out before leaving the dungeon, or use a revive shrine to warp to the beginning and walk out

[wind mauve]

i ended up using revive shrine, still too time consuming regardless

[drifting cape]

undercity in general needs something cool imo

and maybe needs to be shorter on average

some of the undercity maps ive seen have been insane

[raven basin]

can someone enlighten me if orengall armor set is rewarded upon completion of shewolf snared? I can only recall the pact blueprint.. it's been awhile since I finished the fable

[drifting cape]

alcas children faction

[opaque jasper]

I like the long dungeons, I just want them to be more rewarding for my time if a Sparrow Tale takes me there

[dim wave]

Are the endless wave arenas in all Glades or just a random room spawn? Hoping to do some of that after maxing daily rep

[opaque jasper]

If I'm not grinding rep I will stay in a dungeon for a long time lol

[raven basin]

ohhhh, I thought it automatically unlocks if I completed the fable.

[drifting cape]

long dungeons can be alright yea but id definitely like to find something cooler down there

[drifting cape]

nah none of the quests do that

well garren i think you get 1 piece of each

forget if bromius gives you one. dont think so

[dim wave]

Honestly I like it too but fables need to not have extermination missions unless enemy placement is more clearly defined in the dungeons

[wind mauve]

orengal is free after finishing the fable, gives you the blueprint to craft if, thats how i got it on P10, not sure if it changed thru the patches

[opaque jasper]

It's still the same

After quest just have to hunt for mats

[drifting cape]

no

orengall is alca's children

its their faction armor

[raven basin]

i just read it somewhere, u get the pact bp but not the armor set.. just like what was said here it's from Alca's Children Tale Tier 3

(bounty)

[opaque jasper]

Oh yeah sorry I misunderstood I thought y'all were talking about the pact

[raven basin]

all good

[wind mauve]

sorry, i mean just the pact, i misunderstood

[raven basin]

all good. thankss for answering still

[wind mauve]

the armor being sold by the faction is a QoL, it used to be farmed in glades

[frozen ether]

can i use sirins pact with courage? i would like abit of info on it

[wind mauve]

i tried, its bad 😅

[frozen ether]

it was purely to level them up really

[drifting cape]

you can? but theres no real reason to do that

sirins 1 and 3 dont get anything from that

[frozen ether]

so if i use sirin put points into it

[drifting cape]

i assume her 2 gets a decent boost. idk

his* sorry

[wind mauve]

sirin's decoy, even at max courage, cant 1hKO a lv50 mob

[drifting cape]

i always think sirins a girl idk

[wind mauve]

even half of its life, not unless you are using courage based weapon then you do you

[frozen ether]

im using courage based weapons currently

[wind mauve]

the first three pacts are obviously women

[drifting cape]

sirin isnt

[wind mauve]

or rather based feminine

wyld armors, specifically, design and everything

[drifting cape]

honestly its fine you can go courage for a weapon

range wont give you much either

i dont think duration will either

[wind mauve]

i honestly just use sirin for stealing, really big QoL specially on the xmas event, sirin can steal armor/weapon fragments

[idle owl]

warframe feels weird to play after soulframe

[frozen ether]

assuming if i want to level up grace weapons i should put all points into grace?

[wind mauve]

yes

[idle owl]

sirin was a guy

other feys were female indeed

[drifting cape]

yea put all your points into whatever youre leveling

[idle owl]

and backstabbing is so fun

really useful against bannaret

[wind mauve]

it was disappointment on my part, since i did buy the full package, the only rewarding part was the tri-accessory and GS, other than that,, i cant use tethrens

tethren's overall design for a guy was ok, its just the front plate that had questions, but then again i should just view the game as warframe with its gennder exclusivity

[idle owl]

they changed tethrens chest armor tho no?

[wind mauve]

yes, still looks like im using Hildryin than a He-man

[idle owl]

I think male tethren looks fine, oscelda tho is so bad

looks man enough to me

oscelda needs a full style change

make it look more like sirin or smth

[wind mauve]

it feels really off

[idle owl]

looks alright to me tbh, maybe make the waist a bit thicker but it seems usable

[wind mauve]

the front plate felt it was placed lower than an actual chest plate armor, but i understand that not everyone agrees with me

might be difference in culture, i actually got swarmed by downvotes when I made a feedback

[turbid ridge]

Looks like my old paintball vest

Does look kinda low though, you're right

[wind mauve]

actually, when you think about it, it does look like more of a general vest than an armor

[turbid ridge]

I transmogged all my stuff to circade

I like how it looks

[wispy carbon]

Anyone know how to get a key?

[wind mauve]

#envoy-gathering message

or check pins in #envoy-gathering

[opaque jasper]

I think it'll look better with a bigger pact arm, Wyld Oscelda is pretty naked in comparison to the armor so it makes your shoulders seem narrower

Once Pact Transmog happens will be nice

[rugged yoke]

Is there a way to replay The Waste Bear, just because the fight was fun and I want to do it with melee at some point?

[dim wave]

Is circadian armor still unlockable or was it just for that even or something (used the wiki to learn about it in case stuff is wrong or unclear)

[drifting cape]

no its still there

the only things you cannot currently get are the halloween event masks

[dim wave]

In the quest logs you should have the option to replay the fable. Lets you do most of them but idk how far the replays go cause I haven’t done them myself

[drifting cape]

oh and that one special pendant the old timers got for going through a wipe

[wind mauve]

no replay for bears yet

[rugged yoke]

Yeah so I went into the journal, including via the ancestor back at base, and I just don't see a way to do it. Like I found it in the Fables list

[rugged yoke]

Ah ok word, thanks. "Yet" implies they'll probably add it, or just no idea?

[wind mauve]

theyll porbably add it like the rest of the bosses

like this one

[rugged yoke]

Word

[wind mauve]

rise, envoy,the last pensive, most of these are linked thru the nightfold NPCs

[dim wave]

Oh dang my b

[spare badge]

They will. Devshorts had Steve saying that they plan on more fables being replayable.

[fierce hearth]

guys I collected all the story shadows around the world, what did they give me I don't know. Can anyone explain what they were for other than the story they unlocked?

[rugged yoke]

Woot woot!

[daring jacinth]

Envoy/Mastery XP

[fierce hearth]

there is no notification stating I gained any xp tho

[daring jacinth]

Correct

[opaque jasper]

Your Envoy Rank in the top left of your menu will go up, and it also translates the names when you view the locations on the map.

[spare badge]

They make the names of places clear and unlock lore entries. Since p9 added more named loctions around the map, those don't yet have extra lore entries. WIP.

[vestal knot]

So when do we get lifeskills? 😄

[fierce hearth]

Thank you

Do we know when the game will go open beta and what will be added to the game

[vestal knot]

It will probably be a good while still

[vernal spindle]

Guess that guy really wanted to return to the soil

[wind mauve]

npcs gets tired too 🤣

[wind mauve]

ive been consistently watching most streams from p10 up, and based on how steve hopes from SF to WF, i think it will take a bit more time before it goes beta 😅

[frozen ether]

lol i had this happen on arena

[fierce hearth]

what are you wearing? looks cool

I am currently going with the mendicant king set

[full loom]

LMFAO

Guess it was quicksand

[wind mauve]

looks like a full set of wyld oscelda armor with dark dyes

[rugged yoke]

I'm not far enough into the game to know about the ins and outs on the gear...is there any motivation at all to get extra copies of the event weapons/armor?

I've been planning on it, but sort of arbitrarily

[frigid spoke]

not extra, if you have a set then you're good

[rugged yoke]

someone i know said something about "building them with different stats" but I haven't had a chance to ask them more about it

Are they just crossing wires with warframe?

[sly escarp]

You can change a weapon's attunement with a Blessed Joinery

[frigid spoke]

no stats atm, who knows in upcoming updates

[sly escarp]

Some people like multiple copies with different Attunements

[frigid spoke]

weapons yeah, armor no

[rugged yoke]

Ahhh ok - but that's just so I don't have to REATTUNE it to have it in different configurations?

[idle owl]

Well I don't think the event weapons themselves have anything special, you can just have their looks with the weapon transmog update, you aren't really missing anything

[rustic loom]

How do you get into Castle Kearnhold?

[idle owl]

I did it twice but I don't remember how

Just jump over one of the walls somewhere I think, or you gotta fight the bannaret on one of the spots outside, get a key, open the door

[rugged yoke]

Oh, as in the stats just aren't very good on them?

[still owl]

please all i want is remember password lol

[finite slate]

I'm planing to buy an fundators pack but i don't know anything of the game. I just love warframe and DE. Any recomend?

[spare badge]

Step 1: Get pen and paper. Step 2: Write down password. Step 3: store paper somewhere away from prying eyes.

[still owl]

but then i forget where i put the paper!

[spare badge]

Omit that step.

[still owl]

oh dang, never thought of just not forgetting.

[tired sail]

Make sure you remember to not forget.

[spare badge]

Ideally, you place away from prying eyes is somewhere you also store other stuff you regularly use.

[still owl]

inn all seriousness though, i do really hope they expand on the world in this game. id love for settlements to be larger and have things to do within them, more dungeons or raids, and some more pois

[drifting cape]

nope last update was the final update

its joever

[idle crypt]

why can't I interact with this?

[drifting cape]

if that's the one i'm thinking of, youll use it soon

keep going with the quest

[idle crypt]

My birdie is flyng towards it, can't find anything else to do

[karmic crater]

where he go

[drifting cape]

did you follow a rat there?

[neat night]

the skill point from normal pact stack with Wyrd Pact is intentional or a bug O_O?

[idle crypt]

Yes I did

[drifting cape]

oh. then you should be able to use it

[idle crypt]

weird

I'll just reset I guess

[drifting cape]

yeah i dont know, try relogging yeah

[daring jacinth]

Pretty sure it was intentional

[drifting cape]

if it wasnt we'd know by now

[drifting cape]

also those things are really picky about where you are, if relogging doesnt help just try moving around

[bronze pond]

Wyld is probably just a sort of version of Prime that stacks with the base form

[vestal knot]

shadow realm

[bronze pond]

Kinda makes it feel that the wyld pacts are gonna be the best for a while simply because you have twice as many points to play with, not to mention Sirin and Oscelda are already fantastic

[blissful sparrow]

ummm wyld/non wyld pacts you can use both the points to play with, I mean even if you play just tethren (not the wyld version but you levelled up both) you still get the benefits.

[drifting cape]

tbh, as long as the passives stay how they are, i dont see it as a huge deal

30 extra points is cool but not like.. game-changing

[drifting cape]

theyre saying the wyld pacts will overshadow the pacts without a wyld

[frozen ether]

can someone tell me if these mean anything?

its the only one that glows

[drifting cape]

yes. google it

you wont solve it yourself

[blissful sparrow]

Yes, circade puzzle, you will get an armor set with it

[frozen ether]

ah ok

[drifting cape]

it was a community puzzle

[blissful sparrow]

well technically yes in terms of numbers (character stats wise) but gameplay I think not, I still use Orengall A LOT lol

[drifting cape]

yeah thats what im saying too

and teth would still be busted without wyld the extra points dont mean much

[blissful sparrow]

real, oscelda not given respect tho, petrify + headshot (even better with multiplier) mostly 1 shots everything

[neat night]

some other pacts currently op af xD
but yeah, they need to be very careful with the design or else it will turn worse

[dreamy oracle]

I was playing soul frame with my wife earlier now it won't let me join her

Any suggestions?

[neat night]

hmmm, try turning the game off on both PCs, then open it again, and go outside the faction outpost if one of you is in there.

[dreamy oracle]

With orengall how do we summon more than one wolf?

[frozen ether]

i did the guide

its not coming up with the open message

theres no promt

99.9% sure i did it the way the video shows

anyone?

[drifting cape]

why are you looking at a coffin

it opens a door

[frozen ether]

its the puzzle?

[drifting cape]

no

[frozen ether]

the 2nd one the gatews drop around this and ur meant to open it

it contains the set

but i dont get the "open" promt

[drifting cape]

ohhhhh

youre at that part

hmmm idk

[frigid spoke]

look for another guide

[drifting cape]

nah if the gates down he should have it

i thought

[frozen ether]

exactly

[frigid spoke]

Did it twice no issues. Something went wrong

[frozen ether]

i did it the same way the vid did it and he got a promt

i dont see the open button tho

guess im taking the loss?

[drifting cape]

i guess?

[frozen ether]

only thing i can think is im with my mate

he did die at the begining of the crypt so hes just been watching

[drifting cape]

oh. yeah that might explain it

dont do quest stuff in co-op

[frozen ether]

is it a solo only thing?

[drifting cape]

no but co-op is buggy with quests and things

[frozen ether]

lol would be a great time for my game to crash as he leaves to try see if taht does anything

[coral heron]

Hi can someone help me with something i got a quick question

i cant download the game ??

[frozen ether]

"Do not find Verminia"

[frozen ether]

do you have an access code?

[coral heron]

how?

nope i dont have it

[frozen ether]

either dev streams or buying founders

[coral heron]

do i have to text a dev ?

[frozen ether]

live streams

[coral heron]

oh ok

[frozen ether]

or dm me ill slide you a code

[coral heron]

ok

[opaque jasper]

Gotta rank up

At Max rank you should be able to have 3 out at once

[opaque jasper]

Were invites not working?

[drifting cape]

2

at rank 24

[opaque jasper]

Huh, I must have seen a bug before

[drifting cape]

yeah i think it was an old bug

[proper pulsar]

anyone down to farm mats?

[frozen ether]

I re ran it solo lucky for me the first puzzle was complete so I only had to do the 2nd one and it worked

I do have 1 question

[drifting cape]

nice!

[frozen ether]

The talisman you get from killing him in front of the thing

I noticed there’s other ones earlier in the crypt

If you lead him to a different one would it give you a different talisman?

[drifting cape]

yes

[frozen ether]

Sweet

Thought so

[drifting cape]

you really want to do that

[frozen ether]

it only takes 5 minutes

How often can you revisit?

[drifting cape]

theres no timer, you can go back as soon as you want as much as you want

[frozen ether]

And the armour set is that a one time thing?

[drifting cape]

yeah

[frozen ether]

Ok

Thanks

[drifting cape]

but the talisman is worth it

[frozen ether]

They only add 1 point so for me it’s collection purposes

Assuming they don’t have any secret to them?

[frigid spoke]

just another quest process 3/3/3 talisman

[drifting cape]

|| try wearing one and see what happens after a while :) ||

[spare badge]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade#Circade_Armour_Set

[tired granite]

Lol
Can't interact

[drifting cape]

huh. the code actually seems solvable by yourself

would just take some effort

[frigid spoke]

it is soloable

[spare badge]

Look for a sun sprite statue nearby. Usually, that's part of a light puzzle.

[spare badge]

I wouldn't say so, unless you do a lot of trial and error.

[drifting cape]

ehhh yeah i misunderstood a bit, it seemed not so bad until i got to the code part

still possible but, above and beyond what 99.99% of people would be willing to do

[spare badge]

It took the preludes discord a while to collectively figure it out.

[tired granite]

That's in the exit to a dungeon. I'm in the overworld

[spare badge]

Oh. From the walls, looked like you were in undercity.

[drifting cape]

thats how dungeon exits look if youre looking at one from the outside

[tired granite]

Put a bug on forum, apparently someone here put a bug in the bug tracker already I just saw

[drifting cape]

is it a bug?

[spare badge]

Not really.

[drifting cape]

seems intentional to me if its an undercity exit

[tired granite]

I would say a chest spawning inside of a door is a bug, it also blocks progression of the Alca's quest

[spare badge]

User error.

[tired granite]

nope, the bounty did not send me into the undercity

and exits are random

so it's not like I can go to a specific spot to open the door
Even if I could the chest would still be mid air and uninteractable

[spare badge]

Bird isn't smart enough yet to know the difference between entrance and exit. You've gotta find the entrance.

[drifting cape]

ig im confused at what this is

[tired granite]

Dungeon entrances take you to random exits

that's a mechanic of the game

[drifting cape]

well, preset exits

[tired granite]

this is the exit, the nearest entrance would send you far enough away to abandon the bounty (and wouldn't send you to this exit anyways)

[drifting cape]

so the bounty lead you to the exit?

i see now, yeah i get it

[tired granite]

The bounty never sent me to the undercity

[drifting cape]

its the treasure bounty and it chose that one treasure thats after the undercity behind the exit

[tired granite]

Again, even if it HAD, the chest is still midair and uninteractable

[drifting cape]

yeah i got it

thats def a bug

that treasure chest is supposed to be there, but that bounty shouldnt pick that chest

[tired granite]

Yesn't

the chest is midair and uninteractable

I don't think chests have programmed physics so it's not like it'd fall and become interactable if the door opened

[spare badge]

When you go into a dungeon, it resets the world.

When you exit a dungeon from exit room or entrance, it resets the world.

The nearest dungeon entrance should be where you go if a factoin tale talls you to go to one. It should be shown as a circle on your map, like all the other nodes are.

[drifting cape]

they were on a treasure chest bounty step

not a undercity bounty step

[tired granite]

The bounty did not send me to a dungeon, different quest

[spare badge]

Ah.

[drifting cape]

the bounty led them to the undercity exit chest, beind the exit door

[tired granite]

pretty sure undercity quests objectives occur before you go back to midrath anyways

[spare badge]

In that case, yeah. bug report that, cause that's a problem with the chest spawning in invalid location.

[drifting cape]

does it spawn a chest or pick a chest that exists?

[spare badge]

Though, you could try the world reset thing from going into a dungon and back out.

[spare badge]

Spawns one.

[drifting cape]

ah ok so yeah

i thought it was picking the chest thats there when you exit

[frozen ether]

I found where all the rats are hiding

[drifting cape]

im still missing a lot of rats

[spare badge]

Birdie's bog?

[drifting cape]

but theyre all in populated areas

[frozen ether]

I’m not sure what it’s called but the far north castle that you can’t get into yet

If you just run in circles there’s so many rats that spawn

[spare badge]

Mirifuir?

[vestal knot]

Am I missing something on how to get into fort curlail? Swear I've come here multiple times, cleared every enemy in the entire radius around it where it still counts you in the "siege area" and nothing :/
I did notice the small wooden door on the side of the fort but its always locked

[frozen ether]

I’m not sure the name I haven’t unlocked it yet

[drifting cape]

did you do it recently

[frozen ether]

Probably

[drifting cape]

sieges are on a 3 hr timer

[frigid spoke]

so many people miss the bomb dropped by the 1st sub boss. Look on the floor near where you kill him

[vestal knot]

No. I dont think I've ever done it, but I also only came back to the game recently

[drifting cape]

oh ok. you have to kill the banneret, above the town curlail

where the town meets the castle

[vestal knot]

Yea its dead. lol

I've killed everything near the fort area

[frigid spoke]

#gameplay-discussion message

[drifting cape]

pick up the thunderstone

and put it in the cannon

[vestal knot]

oh so thats what I was missing

[drifting cape]

yee

[vestal knot]

I never saw a thunderstone 😭

[drifting cape]

lol understandable

[frigid spoke]

it's a bag on the floor

[tired granite]

Got the same quest on another t3 that sent me to the same spot, this is where it is "supposed to spawn"

[frozen ether]

Yes

[tired granite]

Out of bounds island :P

[spare badge]

Froggy Island.

[rotund adder]

is the only way to play this game is by buying one of the bundles? i wanna play wit my homie badddddddddd but cant be buying nun rn lol

[drifting cape]

wait for devstream in the 30th

itll be announced on #soulframe-news

oh yea link your twitch account to the soulframe site

[spare badge]

#envoy-gathering message

[tired granite]

Gotta get an access code or buy founders. Iirc they give out 2000 access codes a week + some on the devstream. Your friend probably has access codes they can give you if they didn't get theirs from a friend. Iirc you get 4 to share

[rotund adder]

he got given one by his friend lol

but thank yall!!!!!

[spare badge]

The link I posted is a pinned comment in envoy gathering channel, by a mod, on how to get access.

[frozen ether]

dm me i got a few to spare

[vestal knot]

[frozen ether]

Does she want to be found or not

[frigid spoke]

same thing, lol it's dropped by the boss you killed

[vestal knot]

The first banneret...?

[frigid spoke]

the bow guy, the 2nd one

[vestal knot]

oh boy

I hope it wasnt the one in the tower across the way

[frigid spoke]

no it was the guy that spawned as you walked in through the busted gate. had a big ass health bar...

[vestal knot]

there was never one. didnt even spawn

GG

[frigid spoke]

the event is 1 outside boss, drops bomb, 1 inside boss drops anchor, zipline across game over

[vestal knot]

at least with the bomb I can understand thats just me not having noticed the mechanic with the cannon

but man, the 2nd boss didnt even spawn

😭

[frigid spoke]

spawns right on the stacked cage things just after broken gate

[vestal knot]

wasted so much time scouring every inch of the fort like "ok what did I miss surely its around"

[frigid spoke]

weird

[vestal knot]

Honestly it probably could have just fallen through the world as well because I've seen that happening a decent bit lmao

[vestal knot]

see ^

[spare badge]

She's just being emo. Go find her.

[frozen ether]

She’s violating

[spare badge]

Do what?

[cursive oracle]

Sneeze

[idle owl]

They are fine it is just that they don't have anything special going for them that is worth using them on their own, you can just use their look on another weapon with the same virtue once transmog comes

[rigid chasm]

Giving free prelude code

[idle owl]

Save it on Google

[rigid chasm]

Ping to get

[somber silo]

Does anyone know if there's a particular area of the map that's good for farming dendrit weave? Or is it completely random?

[tired sail]

Popping balloons should get you some

There are a few camps around the Mines of Borro which always have balloons

[frozen ether]

Can you only do the overworld circade once?

Dusk, Dawn, Midnight?

[smoky crater]

Once each

[tired sail]

You would need to get a new talisman

[frozen ether]

I have all 3 so is there a fight for each?

[tired sail]

*well not sure if you can get another invasion, but you can kill the circade near a wall to get an extra talisman

I didn't really want to see if I could summon again if it resulted in some weird soft lock like what happened to people with duplicate pacts

[frozen ether]

I received the extra talisman

So am I done?

[tired sail]

You can run around with the extra dusk/dawn/midnight talismans and see if you get invaded, but they might get consumed after killing the circade if it is able to spawn.

[frozen ether]

It’s only for the 4th talisman?

If so there’s no point going again

[tired sail]

Nothing really unless you just want to see if you can be invaded.

Once you have Triune, you're done the quest, and the sub talismans aren't really worth the bonus, just a collectors item.

[frozen ether]

That’s odd I remember it saying I got the 4th one but now I’m looking I can’t find it

[tired sail]

Are you checking at the blacksmith?

[frozen ether]

ah yes it’s because I need 2 more fragments for it

So I guess yeah you do need to summon all 3

[twilit basin]

can someone help explain what to do on brewer of hues when following the rats in the glades

[tired sail]

was this the jumping rat near the glades entrance under a tree?

[plucky lodge]

Oh we talking about Triune? Perfect cause I joined to talk about that

[twilit basin]

i didnt see any rats just herd them squeak

[plucky lodge]

Namely does anyone think its worth using any other pendent besides Triune?

[tired sail]

I don't think it matters that much at higher mastery levels, the cogah ones do give +10 attack though

Other than that, I guess the talisman that boosts courage the highest until the virtue update comes

[plucky lodge]

Is that a big difference though? +10 attack?

[tired sail]

There should be a rat outside of the glades dungeon near fort curlail, and I think you need to read the note it's standing on

[tired sail]

I think it might be a higher damage bonus than what you get out of virtue scaling

[plucky lodge]

Oh okay

[tired sail]

It also isnt affected by a weapon's scaling cap

[plucky lodge]

Yeah then maybe it would be worth the cogahs

[rigid chasm]

What should I max on wyld tethren? Rooted? Last stand? Conquerers?

[tired sail]

I don't find stability does much, can't really maintain last stand because conquerer will push you out of the < 45% hp range, so you can't use the buff like "RTSR"

[swift kiln]

Good morning, guys.

[white void]

is magic good or am i wasting my time

[smoky crater]

It is

[white void]

:C

[smoky crater]

Good i mean

Not a waste of time

[unreal roost]

I hope this is the place one can ask questions....

Does maxing out pact's give any perma bonus?

[frozen ether]

i got a reply from support, i think i just needed to buy extra slots i guess you only get 6 slots to start with

[upper parrot]

You gain mastery points aka accoubt level + when you max out normal pack + wyld you’ll have 60 points to spend

[unreal roost]

ahhh I see, so theres good reason to finish them off. is max level 20?

and... does "account level" affect power at all?

oh no its 30 sorry

[granite jacinth]

how do i get access to the prelude i just heard of soulframe and knew Scott left the other game i rather play his game ngl

[smoky crater]

Check the pinned messages in #envoy-gathering for info

[granite jacinth]

thanks alot

[smoky crater]

All account level does atm is give you 1 virtue point per level with the max bring 17 so it does add up

[granite jacinth]

so if i understood either i wait or i buy founder pack? bet thanks again

[unreal roost]

good enough for me!

[vagrant kayak]

Or you can watch the devstream on the 30th which should have invite codes as Twitch Drops

Which to be fair also involves waiting

[unreal roost]

thanks for the answers guys.

One more small question, what is sundering seige? 30 second timer. Does it mean I gave up on a seige I was doing? or is it a seperate event?

[frozen ether]

can you get a hold of wyld pacts without founders?

[smoky crater]

Correct to giving up a siege you had started

[smoky crater]

Not yet.
Eventually yes

[unreal roost]

Thanks so much ! Loving the game BTW if devs see this. Absolutely addicted. Already bought 1 of the founders packs

[frozen ether]

i think founders is worth it honestly just for the wyld so you can stack points

i found out today that p10 players got more slots than you do if u start in p11 why did they decide to reduce slots?

[vagrant kayak]

For a time the game had no premium currency or the ability to get premium currency so players were just given enough slots for all the new items, once Arcs were added properly slots for new accounts were reduced to a standard starting amount.

[frozen ether]

ah ok that makes more sense

[junior cipher]

can we use the wolf pup as a follower

or to hep fight?

[junior cipher]

help

[native drum]

hi I'm new to the game and I'm level 15 I am doing a courage build but I was wondering if some one could help me out not with fighting but like spec wise or even gear suggestions

[vagrant kayak]

Not yet it'll grow up to be a mount and possibly companion in a future update

[junior cipher]

woah that’s actually such a good idea

i’m excited for this

[vagrant kayak]

You can craft the Orengall Pact which lets you summon spectral wolves as summons right now though

[junior cipher]

i’ll check it out thanks man

[merry helm]

your nameis 13

[junior cipher]

lucky number

[frozen ether]

Someone was talking about this before, to craft the triune talisman you need to use the 3 you get from the circade. Can I go back and redo the circade for the 3 talisman after crafting the triune?

[junior cipher]

OH YEAH

[merry helm]

yes you can

[frozen ether]

Sweeeet

[merry helm]

you can get the fragments at least

lets try getting 10 triune talisman

[frozen ether]

I just want the rest of the talisman set for collection

[merry helm]

ah i see

[frozen ether]

Is that possible?

[merry helm]

i dont know

gotta try

[frozen ether]

Eh I’m not to bothered only need 1

[spice relic]

Hello, question, I'm kinda new. Why sometimes enemies' healthbar becomes black, grey or with an X and I don't do damage to them?

[frozen ether]

Anyone else’s guide bird resets on its own back to the standard one?

[vagrant kayak]

When enemy health bars have the X on them that means your normal attack damage isn't enough to go through their armor. Making your weapons stronger by levelling up and/or applying Joineries will help. Also it's only the base attack that won't be strong enough, heavy attacks, headshots, and Pact abilities may still be able to get through

[vagrant kayak]

That was a bug but I thought it was fixed, check if all skins are doing it and definitely report it in #1438224825113120788

[frozen ether]

How would you go about testing each one?

I logged to see if that was it

But it didn’t happen so I’m assuming it’s probably at random points where I don’t usually notice

[vagrant kayak]

Just to make sure, are you swapping loadouts? Bird skins are tied to loadouts IIRC

[frozen ether]

I haven’t made any yet

So no

Lord cardinal resets on relog

[vagrant kayak]

It was the Cardinal skins doing it before, guess that bug wasn't fixed

[frozen ether]

I try the others

[frozen ether]

Yeah it’s just the cardinal birds

[crude lintel]

every time i finish a fight with spoodey, it always gives me a glowing diaper

[idle owl]

Mine has always been the rat

[frozen ether]

I hate that thing

[idle owl]

I love the rat

[merry helm]

there are 2 sides

[idle owl]

The rat is peak

Nice to always have a part of my beautiful french ghost lady around

[tropic nacelle]

I love poppet too

[arctic cedar]

For me it resets and also staggers game for 1 sec whenever I use it 😭 in dungeons it's even worse

[tropic nacelle]

Hi all

[tropic nacelle]

I’m a rat

Rat Ace my beloved label

[frozen ether]

I did experience that in some glades but it’s usually fine anywhere else

[native drum]

guys I might be a idiot you guys know the boss nimrod right?

well I couldnt figure out how to use the cloud potion thing given to you so I was just throwing my sword at this guy for like 20 mins

[zealous herald]

..

[smoky crater]

there's a literal tutorial pop up for it

[native drum]

yeah nah I should of Paid Attention and I should of known

but oops

should I be changing my started sword around level 15 because I might of seen wrong but so far this is still the better sword for raw dmg

[smoky crater]

if you're havin fun with it and its working, no real need to switch but ofc you can craft a stronger weapon if you want to

but you should level up weapons to 30 for all the combat art points and the account level xp

[native drum]

is the rank of the weapon the level you speak of?

because this is the starter weapon I'm still using

[smoky crater]

yaya rank i mean

[native drum]

I can get it to level 30 but any recommendations after using this or is this ok to use like mid game?

[smoky crater]

there's not really proper "early game/mid game/end game" yet but Wulder can do basically everything the game has to offer if you put enough effort into it

but it's on the lower end damage wise

[keen river]

pretty much any weapon is going to be able to work for you if you're willing to invest in it, and we're still pretty early in development, so the amount of investment needed is not really that different from a "higher-tier" weapon

[native drum]

oh really? I guess I need to go out and find more gear fragments because the 3 swords I can craft now are on the lower end or does the dmg go up with rank?

[keen river]

dmg increases every few rank-ups

[smoky crater]

staggger aswell

[keen river]

(specific levels grant specific bonuses and i don't remember exactly which ones increase which stats, but you get extra stagger, damage, and arts as you rank up the weapon

[native drum]

like does the base dmg go up or is it the (+28) I see that adds onto it?

[final rock]

Depending on the wep type runes can carry it as well.

[keen river]

the +28 is the bonus you're getting from your virtue, the base damage will go up on rank up

[native drum]

ohhhh

that makes a lot more sence now

[keen river]

if you ever feel like comparing max rank weapon damage, the avakot wiki has all current weapons' stats at lv0 and lv30 for comparison

[native drum]

because I was looking at making this sword but then I was like why df would I do that

[smoky crater]

Sollos-I is a bit better than the wulder iirc

[keen river]

yeah you're getting 0 bonus on that one because (i assume?) you haven't invested in spirit

[smoky crater]

not a whole lot but it is

[keen river]

and that one's a spirit scaling weapon

[smoky crater]

virtue bonuses don't show at Tuvalkanes

[native drum]

no I have not invested in spirit

[keen river]

i did not know that :o

[smoky crater]

• you can't have 0 points in any of the virtues

[keen river]

either way, to get the best use out of that one, you'd want to either invest in spirit or attune it to courage with a joinery blessed by mora if you want to continue investing mostly in courage

[native drum]

oh so this shit like dark soul where weapons are like faith, dex but this is grace, spirit, courage

[keen river]

though the second option does require leveling it to 30 first, and will reset its rank to 0 so you'll have to re-rank it

[keen river]

kinda yeah!

some weapons also have minimum virtue scores which, if you don't meet, will drastically reduce the weapon's damage

[native drum]

ok ok this is making a lot more sence to me now

[keen river]

it's not all intuitive at first, but it does all kinda fit together pretty neatly once you get it

[native drum]

see when I see attunement I'm not thinking scaling I'm thinking like ability (was probable in the intro but again didnt pay attention)

[keen river]

-# i swear every time i chat in this server i get the urge to launch the game wtf
yeah so, "attunement" is the virtue that the weapon will scale off of, so higher scores in that virtue = higher damage (up to a point--each weapon has a virtue cap, beyond which you won't gain any extra benefit, but that's a whole thing and it's honestly not worth worrying about most of the time)

your virtues do affect your abilities too, but in different ways, and that's going to change pretty soon too since virtues are being reworked

[glossy tapir]

Don't feel bad, I started putting more time in again in Preludes 12 and definitely have been running around with a spirit weapon with 3 spirit doing no damage to speak of and couldn't figure it out 🙂

[smoky crater]

that's how it's been for me aswell and how it will always continue to be
welcome to the party

[native drum]

another question bosses do they have weak spots or no matter where you hit them its all the same as well as do some bosses have a weakness against different attuements?

[smoky crater]

atm anyway bosses aren't weak to different things like that.
usually heads will be the weakspot tho

or in like... 99% of cases. idk how Etheldred The Weaver works

[keen river]

genuinely not sure if ethel even has a weak spot, really

most enemies are vulnerable to headshots though, ye

[smoky crater]

yeh

[oblique star]

is it okay to share codes here

[smoky crater]

yes

[oblique star]

anyone want a code

[native drum]

I looked at the avakot wiki tbh I want to try and find this Marrow's Bane thing looks sick

[smoky crater]

buuut it's suggested to not just paste the codes in these channels since bots might yoink them so dm the person or something

[keen river]

ooo that drops from the kabocha boss in wevetwood, but i think you need to finish the waste bear quest before you can fight him

[smoky crater]

very strong wep ye, fun to use too

[oblique star]

oh fs

js got that founders pack

[smoky crater]

noice

[native drum]

thats what my mate got and he gave me a code and now I

'm tempted to buy one of the packs for me self

[frozen ether]

That’s what I did

[oblique star]

if only my frens would play frame

ion want to hand it to them and they dont play\

[native drum]

well looks like I got a lot more questing to do then I cant wait until they add mounts into the game

[keen river]

you and me and like half the playerbase too, lol.

mounts will be awesome

[native drum]

well I was telling my mate that I was thinking about getting in warframe again and he knew I played all the dark souls game so he was like you might fck with this game I said bet

[smoky crater]

i would 110% suggest getting into warframe aswell

if you haven't yet

[frozen ether]

Isn’t it a little late? I’d rather focus on Soulframe now

[smoky crater]

late? never

[native drum]

well my old steam acc got hacked a long time ago I had like 500+ hours into warframe after that and all the grinding I did I was like shit I'm never doing that again

[smoky crater]

wew

[frozen ether]

I wish I could transfer my old console save to pc

[smoky crater]

cross-save/play does exist now

[frozen ether]

Don’t say that

[smoky crater]

has for a couple years

[native drum]

I was about to say the same thing

[frozen ether]

I’d be surprised if I even remember what the login is

[smoky crater]

but yeah the new player experience has gotten major improvements in the last year

[native drum]

nah tbh I've been playing arc recently been kinda addicted to that game

tbh I think the only thing I love and hate at the same time is the crafting time for gear in this game like waiting a whole day (for some gear) is crazy but then again it would feel so nice going to bed getting home from work and seeing it done

[smoky crater]

ye it does have 2 sides to it

but also at some point you just have so much to do that the crafting timers aren't really an issue even

and that'll most likely be the same with this game too

[keen river]

crafting timers are kind of a pain, i agree with that, but at the same time i do feel that the timers are pretty reasonable, especially compared to warframe's "~4 days to build a new frame" paradigm

most weapons don't even take a full day, and pacts only take a day

[native drum]

tbh yeah the dungeons and stuff is god damn crazy I take 1 turn turns into 5 different turns then some how I'm like 3 floors down of where I should be for the quest they did so well with the exploration valure for the game + the game looks so nice and the music in some zones or bosses it so nice as well

[keen river]

oh my god yeah the dungeons are great. if you ever want some spooky vibes, go dungeon delving with the bgm turned off, it's like night and day

[smoky crater]

outside of the couple frames available that are 24h crafts

[keen river]

just rhino and koumei at the moment, right?

[smoky crater]

think so

[keen river]

i think the longest timers in soulframe are 24h, and that's mostly just pacts iirc

[smoky crater]

tho who knows what the tiktok generations are gonna pressure DE into with their non existant attention spans and patience

[smoky crater]

think talismans are 24h and pacts are 26 unless that was changed

[frozen ether]

i had one that was 1 day and a few hours long

[native drum]

like I could understand "rare" weapons or armour having long crafting time but even this first weapon you have to craft takes like 5 hours to do I was so exhited to use it but by the time it crafted I was like oh cool never using that

[velvet grail]

Probably a pact.

[smoky crater]

don't you get a couple weapons that are pre-crafted from some early quest?

[keen river]

i'm not sure this game is really going to appeal to that kind of audience much, though. if it keeps this vibe of vague instructions written in flowery language and environmental puzzle solving it'll probably filter people who don't care to pay attention long enough to figure something out

[smoky crater]

that's true, tho also mostly talkin about warframe in that regard

[native drum]

I'm talking about the nettle the first thing you craft when unlocked the weapon bench

[smoky crater]

ye

[velvet grail]

I hope we get something akin to relics in Soulframe. I need my RNG loot fill.

[keen river]

honestly figured warframe would be better off in that regard just because it's, like, actual adhd simulator already

[native drum]

get that diablo rng

[keen river]

they'll probably put a similar system in place for grinding wyld pacts and their weapons :o

doubt it'll be exactly the same, but the system works, they'll probably want to keep most of the bones

[native drum]

what level are you guys anyway?

[smoky crater]

soulframe? 👀

[keen river]

somewhere around, like, 16.4-ish??

[smoky crater]

account level 17 and i got all the gear there is to get

[velvet grail]

Still rising through 14 right now.

Spent too much time farming rabbits.

[keen river]

i've got all the gear in the game now, but i have not ranked everything up, because i can't really be bothered lmao

[smoky crater]

im gettin close to having everything leveled

after that is just the couple runes from Cogah

[native drum]

oh wait wdf is there two different levels system in the game?

[keen river]

your envoy level raises as you rank up weapons and pacts, and each level in that gets you one extra virtue point to spend

[smoky crater]

ye we got pact and weapon levels, and then we got the account level which is equal to warframes mastery rank

[keen river]

you also get envoy points from histories (golden motes that reveal location names) and world trees, and... maybe some other things??

[smoky crater]

think that's all

[keen river]

though i think that covers most of it

[smoky crater]

didn't even know about world trees until recently honestly

[native drum]

I thought I was level 15 (its level 12) but really I'm level 2

[keen river]

yeah so, the ranks of your pact, weapon(s), and envoy are all separate things

pact and weapon ranks function pretty similarly to one another; envoy rank is the odd one out

[native drum]

so I am pact level 12 but envoy level 2 not confusing at all but I'll get the hang of it only been playing for like 10 hours (not strait)

[keen river]

it's okay, envoy level isn't super important. you will earn xp for it naturally as you level new gear and interact with the world

from what i remember, world trees and histories actually account for quite a large chunk of that xp, and both of those things are pretty easy to do early in the game

[final rock]

Envoy LVL is pretty much your cumulative xp pool. it does a decent bit in regards to hitting virtue cap on weps if you get a high lvl, but its something you get passively for the most part

[native drum]

I might have another little complaint some items you craft and it gives a description of what it is but it doesn't really tell you what it does

like for this like can I summon wolfs? is it just decretive does it make me a bit stronger

[keen river]

this is a pact--a different arm like the one you're using now, which i assume is tethren since you're mainly invested in courage?

[smoky crater]

Pact, being what you have on your right arm, aka your class sort of. set of abilities

[keen river]

your pact determines your three abilities, gives you a bonus to a certain virtue, and has its own skill tree

if you craft and equip that, your current three abilities will be replaced by orengall's abilities (with only one unlocked at first, and the others unlocking as the pact ranks up, just like your first pact)

once you have it crafted, you can change your pact at any time in the nightfold just like with weapons

[native drum]

see it make sence now that you told me but I feel like if I was just by my self and saw this I would of though oh cool new arm not really understanding what it does until you did craft it

of course I could or some one else could look it up as well

[keen river]

now that we have the opportunity to test out the different starter pacts before picking one, i think there is technically enough information to intuit that your arm's visuals are tied to your abilities, but that assumes you actually test out more than one and also notice that your arm has changed 🤔

it could be a lil clearer

i would say it was pretty obvious to me, but i was keeping up with the game's development since it was announced, so i don't think i'm a good litmus test for this

[native drum]

I did try the bow out in testing as well as sword but I was not observant to the changing of arms

I did kinda rush the testing though so it might of just been me

[sly escarp]

It was actually maybe a bit more obvious before they added different starting armours

[keen river]

everyone starting with the same armor set and just different pact arms did make it more noticeable, yeah

[sly escarp]

A while back, you just had the same starting armour so when you shifted between options all that changed was the arm and bow visually

[lavish flare]

Hi all. I have killed the bear boss not long ago and I'm having a hard time understanding what the game expects me to do :/
The general open world enemy scaling appears almost random, most dungeons seem basically empty, and the only reputation guy I have on hand doesn't seem to have that much to offer

[native drum]

now question did they talk about pacts at the start like not saying class but actually saying pact because again I did rush the start so I really didnt pay much attention to stuff well then was until I started playing and then realised I fck with the game

[lavish flare]

Is it just doing random quests in random dungeons for random fragments? Or is there a greater purpose to all this?

[smoky crater]

that's it for the time being mostly. or killing the bosses for Runes.

pre-alpha afterall you know

[lavish flare]

Sure, I won't get into the issues I have with the gameplay itself, but I do understand that there cannot be 20 hours of fleshed out campaign of course

[lavish flare]

though I am unsure what you mean by this, I don't think I've seen some point or w/e that would let me know what that means or where that is 😛

[smoky crater]

they were always talked about as pacts afaik yes although at the start of the game the starting "loadout" is sort of talked about as a "pact"

[lavish flare]

The tutorial mentions pact, but is unclear as to what they are or do, so it's kinda mixed in with all the other random information you get

[smoky crater]

the bosses (Agari) are spread out around the map and have a chance to drop Runes which are powerful weapon upgrades that have to be activated in combat

aswell as weapons and armor sets and talismans

[lavish flare]

oh okay, I see what you mean. Yeah I met some big spider boy in a hole, but its scaling seemed almost random and I kinda gave up halfway cause it was 2 shotting me and I was making basically 0 progress lol

[smoky crater]

that was one of the Agari yes

[native drum]

do bosses etc get bonus hp for how many people there are in the party/lobby? I know this is a main thin game implement but some guys dont do it

[smoky crater]

honestly not sure if there's proper party scaling like that

[keen river]

i don't actually know tbh

it doesn't feel like there is, but

[smoky crater]

haven't played in multiplayer since the launch of preludes 9

[lavish flare]

Is there a rhyme or reason to the general enemy level and scaling that I have missed?
Sometimes I will start a reputation quest and some dudes will be lvl 15, the first objective will be lvl 8, and the last boss guy will be lvl 40

[smoky crater]

enemy level is mostly based on the region

[keen river]

different areas of the map have different level ranges, but they can feel kinda random if you're just wandering around. generally, northeast and southeast are the highest level areas

[lavish flare]

I thought it would be generally tied to region, but since missions take me all over it seems ocnfusing why the system would be bound to that

[smoky crater]

if you see lvl 8 and lvl 40 in the same faction tale, the lvl 8 one is most likely a random naturally spawned enemy, not one tied to the tale

[sly escarp]

For Faction Tales, usually it locks the enemy level to a small range, but other enemies not spawned by the tale will be their normal level

[lavish flare]

I understand thanks. That uh, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense lmao. Thanks for explaining.

[smoky crater]

[lavish flare]

idk, the first I did out the door after the bear boss had 3 objectives that went 20 - 30 - 40

which felt like going from coughing baby to atomic bomb as far as I was concerned

[native drum]

I did see something like this but I think it also depends on not only region but also area within the region like I started doing a castle seige apperently I didnt know until I went to leave and the enemy were 16-20 but then outside the castle/town they were like level 8-10

[keen river]

the castle sieges are intentionally higher level than the surrounding area

[sly escarp]

The Sieges are basically high level events

So they have higher levels than the surrounding

[smoky crater]

but also if it still is how it used to be, the enemy level might also be influenced by where the faction tale ends

[keen river]

i have mostly stopped trying to understand the logic in faction tale scaling, tbh. i just do em.

[native drum]

tbh I went to do it unless its like a quest later of on you get a key that says "castle key" I killed everything and could not get into the castle (no if it asked non of the guards at the from or around had a key) so I just left I looked evey where trying to find a leaver or anything I could use but then again I might just be fcking stupid

[smoky crater]

lmao

[tropic nacelle]

I'm Rank 17 in Soulframe, the history mote reclamiation does matter for Rank

[smoky crater]

[keen river]

do you know which castle you were at? kearnhold and curlail can be sieged, but the mirifuir (the one in the far, far north) and the big castle in the far south cannot be sieged yet

[smoky crater]

a "key" should only be dropped at Fort Kearnhold

[merry helm]

welcome back ririgaki

[keen river]

for curlail, you need to ||get cannon fodder from the first banneret and use it in the nearby cannon to blow open the gate||, and in kearnhold you need ||a key from the first banneret, and then a lever from the second to bring down the ladder||

[native drum]

fort curlail I thing it was

[keen river]

once again neither of those things are made terribly obvious, lol

[native drum]

yep not at all I walked around the whole thing I saw a door at the back of it but could not open it so I thought I needed a kkey

[smoky crater]

tbf sieges were also only added very recently and are very much a W.I.P. themselves too

[keen river]

oh yeah the door at the back you can only open from the inside, lol

that's actually been a thing for longer than the siege itself

[smoky crater]

i don't think it has ever been openable from the outside...

like... since we first got access to the inside part of Fort Curlail

[native drum]

I kinda wish it said something like siege started because I was just running around do this shit fore the fire king or what ever his name was the get his reputation and didnt even know I was doing a siege until I tried to leave and I was like wdf

[smoky crater]

it does say "Siege of Fort X" when you go to fight the first banneret at the start

[keen river]

it does pop up with a "siege of fort _____" thing when the siege proper begins :o

[native drum]

I didnt see nothing thats weird

unless it like in the chat or something yeah nothing popped up for me

[keen river]

did you attack the banneret out in front of the gate, or did you just kill the enemies around the back?

i don't remember if curlail's pops up at that stage or only after you actually get in, now that i think about it