gameplay-discussion

[bleak hound]

I could never get in to Warframe. Seemed too much of a time investment. I'm starting to see that here

[finite stone]

Looking at the map of Glades entrances, they probably mean the south skelfies one?

[plush bolt]

Oh I don't have that one. Good to know.

[hollow mortar]

I've been doing the Sarah boss rotation but that doesn't have bannerettes, is there a recommended rotation for them?

[finite stone]

Soulframe will be a big time investment if you wish to collect every item in the game - if that's something you want, this is probably not the game for you

Soulframe is not a big time investment if you just want to explore its world, experience its full story, and you don't feel a need to collect every single item. So if that's you, then you'll probably have a great time

[frosty wagon]

yo guys where can i get codes mostly for early acsess

[finite stone]

#envoy-gathering message

[smoky crater]

precise drop chances are unknown but drop sources are documented for most things

[halcyon thicket]

Gwath north, Vella and hewyl in dungeons

[frosty wagon]

the last dev stream was 8months ago...

[bleak hound]

I don't need everything, but I would to be able to craft a different pact or two. Orengall seems interesting but I'm severely lacking in materials

[finite stone]

Nope, the last devstream was on the 14th November.

[hollow mortar]

It's needed for like every pact ive found so yeah that's pretty accurate. Like I'm not even sure how faction stuff would get you pearls

[frosty wagon]

i like rlly want to play this game look im a huge fan of warframe but blud i wait for eternity do you guys know where i can find spare codes?

[finite stone]

#gameplay-discussion message

[fickle rain]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the game and wanted to ask if anyone could give me a rough idea of what to do in the game. At the moment, I'm just running around and doing the Enclave's tasks.

[dull solar]

Keep running around and explore

[serene parcel]

Se algum br. Quiser tenho o código para jogar.

[arctic cedar]

Do fraction tales or kill bosses and you will be able to eventually, you get pearls from bosses, as a reward from the fraction shop and sometimes you can buy from avakot

It's not like in any other game you get everything you want immediately

Let's not be dramatic

[frosty wagon]

bruh.. if anyone has like 1spare code they can dm me anytime i honesly didnt understand how to get a code not a single thing

[arctic cedar]

Dude how do you handle life if you are not able to read

[frosty wagon]

i dont

where do people share codes mostly

[smoky crater]

here, on streams, social media, the subreddit

[hollow mortar]

There are rules against code begging here. If in doubt buy founders.

[smoky crater]

or you can get invited by getting lucky with getting one of the 2000 invites they send out on wednesdays

or wait until the 30th when they do a devstream, you can get one guaranteed from that as a twitch drop

[prisma ravine]

According to avakot wiki the only drop source seems to be destroying squawkers.

[frosty wagon]

30th...

[smoky crater]

[spark aspen]

Bruh, I'm at Fort Kearnhold rn and the poor guy on the roof cant break through his lil door😭
Lil bro forgot to take his preworkout

[open sail]

did you get the torch?

[spark aspen]

yeah

i coompletetd the siege

[hollow mortar]

I'm a Warframe founder and I only got a key just before Christmas. At least now people can buy in or get guaranteed free keys from Dev streams.

[finite stone]

Yep that's the only known way to get the charm (seeder is for the skins, not the charm - and hunters only drop what they use, not the charm)

[spark aspen]

hes just yelling from the ther side of the door😂

[lament seal]

All the code beggers trying to get access be like

[spark aspen]

so funny

[hollow mortar]

I had this bug earlier, the reward is from burning the kite not killing him

[smoky crater]

unless it was changed, this thread would disagree with them not dropping from hunters 👀
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1451637261514047589

[frosty wagon]

well uh ig ill just grind for codes...

[finite stone]

ooh lemme see cos I've always been curious (never yet seen any proof of them dropping from something other than a squawker)

[spark aspen]

i just posted cus it was funny to me, should it go into gathering instead?

[hollow mortar]

I've definitely gotten it from the guys. It does show up as the wrong image though.

[honest rampart]

OMG IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THAT WEVETWOOD sap. sry cap

[halcyon thicket]

All over wevetwood area

[hollow mortar]

It's spawn points are listed on the avakott map

[halcyon thicket]

Use wiki

[prisma ravine]

Thanks, interesting read. So seems I just gotta try harder.

[finite stone]

this is quite interesting, no proof in that thread sadly but if what you said above @hollow mortar is the case, then charms might be showing up as the weird/unidentified drop popup that you get sometimes? It'd explain why there's no video yet of someone getting a charm frag from a hunter, but plenty from the squawkers

[hollow mortar]

The bow joinerys seem to be bugged. I have gotten 1 green joinery ever, even farming the spider boss that supposedly drops them. But blue and orange galore.

[finite stone]

are you following the sap map? #gameplay-discussion message

[cursive pond]

i am liking a lot how can you fast travel back to your base to the game world in an instant

[honest rampart]

yeah. i been running around. it is hard to detect it

[honest rampart]

yeah... i even print out the map. LOL

[finite stone]

I think they might glow in spectral sight, could help to use that if you've not been doing it yet?

[honest rampart]

need to train my eyes more

[thorn oasis]

The sap trees glow under spectral sight.

[honest rampart]

weird.... it didnt glow to me... hmmm. i going to find it and use it again. spectral sight is Q right?

[smoky crater]

spectral sight, soulsight, soulmode.... yes

[thorn oasis]

It's called 'Spectral Sight' under settings, so I've been sticking to that. :P

[honest rampart]

hahah. ok. ty ty

[full hearth]

I've gotten used to soulsight and soulmode but yeah devs want to go with spectral sight it seems

[restive lance]

"on activation", on what activation?

[full hearth]

Pull Smite

[finite stone]

Runes are activated on Pull Smite

[restive lance]

thanks

[cursive pond]

so roughly as a guess how much content and hourse wise is ther currently in the game? i dont expect 500 hrs of content right now and was just happy to support the game. just wondering

[halcyon thicket]

A week's worth

Much more if u wanna grind

[cursive pond]

sounds good and grinding is always a part of de gaming so thats definitely fine with me

[honest rampart]

grind? forever if u noob like me. i have played like 2 weeks and still finding stuff.

story? 30-40 hrs? maybe?

[cursive pond]

lol the way i play games they take forever

nice not bad for an alpha test

[honest rampart]

i dont even feel like alpha test. it is a complete game to me

[hollow mortar]

I finished the story in like... One afternoon. You must enjoy the wandering path.

[honest rampart]

I AM. since i have never play elden ring, etc. i am amazed at the graphic.

[open sail]

Do all those saps exist at once or random which show up?

I never seem to find more than 2

[lament seal]

If you track fables and follow your bird religiously like I did the current pre-alpha story goes by pretty quickly lol

[honest rampart]

i am super new. and i am confused. if i were to replay the game. it would be fast

i kept dying man

[restive lance]

what's better for polearm, or

[spare badge]

Neither.

[cursive pond]

right? i kept seeing the videos and they looked good but playing the game is different. at such an early stage too they do look damn good and the game play does feel different from warframe which im happy about

[restive lance]

I have attack speed, with rune I've got +1 attack slot, the rest are + dmg on kick, sprint and so on

[honest rampart]

i am usually get bored very fast. i finish d4 in 50 hours where i have all the mythics, etc. poe 2 in 2 weeks and i get bored. in here, idk why i still playing it

[dim trout]

I kinda supported the game, bought a whole bunch of things and now im not sure what to do lol

[honest rampart]

so, when people ask me is it worth to buy founder pack? heck yeah. if they release new wyld pact. i will buy again

[spare badge]

For melee, I use the rat that spreads damage to others, and the beaver that strips armor.

[honest rampart]

it might be me in 2 more months. i am enjoying while it last. hehe

[cursive pond]

i side track too often to ever get bored and since i dont rush through my games they last a long time. years later i was and still learn thing about stuff in warframe that been there ages and took forever just to work on helminth because i was lazy lol

[restive lance]

ffs so 10/10 is limit and not 10/10 collected?

[cursive pond]

whats even more impressive with the graphics is they are just maxed out at high. imagine if they increase the settings in time

at first my settings was all low and set at 720p i was like oof this is looking rough what are these yotuubers talking about amazing visuals lol. found the reason though and yeah they do look damn good

[dim trout]

Like I spent maybe a day just following a bird and got lost. That drove me away a lil

But its something I have to work with lol

But I struggle to play games solo and idk why lol

[dull solar]

Click on compendium to see if you're missing any

[cursive pond]

also whats so good is that even with this game in big time development it doesn't impact warframe in a negative way so both games will continuously get great content

[restive lance]

yea, I see that number/number tells nothing xD

[hollow mortar]

It's weird to me that the Wyld weapons aren't tier 3. I wonder if that will be changed later. I wonder if it's just placeholder and eventually it will be like a 10 tier system or something.

[spare badge]

One moment...

[honest rampart]

hope it changed to tier 3

[finite stone]

I think it makes sense when the weapon transmog gets added later this year

[dull solar]

Yeah, the founder items are mostly meant for transmog

[finite stone]

they probably don't want to give players some of the most powerful weapons as soon as they start, but also you want to be able to actually enjoy your founders weapon

[spare badge]

I think the number is placeholder.

[restive lance]

ok, ty

[warm night]

If you click on compendium it shows you what you're missing, if anything.

[honest rampart]

i have 2 cogah potion. what is the etiquette if i want to get carried.

do i need the world tree seed?

[spare badge]

And sometimes it makes up stuff that you're not missing.

[winter geode]

I know I'm trash at the game but...

does anyone else just lie on the ground after getting knocked down expecting to be immune? I've been playing too much monster hunter I think 😭

[cursive pond]

lol

[barren escarp]

I normally just lie on the ground and wait, lol sometimes the halberd guy likes to swing while ure down, if u wait he misses

[winter geode]

with some combos they just beat the crap out of you and you can't do anything.
I wonder if that's something they'll change going forward

[cursive pond]

so if i log out will the game just spawn me back in the same spot?

[winter geode]

It spawns you near one of those blocks that you sit against with animals

[finite stone]

No it will spawn you at the nearest https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12?loc=envoy-camp

[cursive pond]

ok

[oblique ember]

The only complaint I have so far is just how confusing some things are. Honestly its probably user error though. I don't know what to use all the materials on I keep picking up or like how to use the animals I charm. IDK lol. I am obviously new I just saved the stag and the wolf so maybe I have a lot more to go before figuring that stuff out.

[winter geode]

It's pre-alpha so I imagine a lot of the tooltips and explanations will come later.
You kinda have to rely on the wiki for info

[cursive pond]

thats the fun part of a new game. learning it

always have google or ai for questions. i always use grok to look stuff up instead of reading old forums and people replying when they dont know stuff yet pretend to be smart lol

[finite stone]

I would highly recommend against relying on AI for Soulframe questions, it thinks the gwylen can be thrown... #envoy-gathering message

[winter geode]

If you need info, you can ask in here or use the wiki. That's the most ideal

[oblique ember]

I agree that it is part of the fun. I personally do not agree with googling to figure it out when the game should tell you. However this is in Alpha so it is completely understandable in this instance. I just did not know if I was missing something obvious or if other people were facing the same thing.

[lament seal]

pretending to be smart while not knowing anything is all that LLMs do lol

[cursive pond]

you havent read enough forums then lol

[lament seal]

I'm not saying forums don't do that, I'm saying if you use AI then you have a 100% chance of that happening

[finite stone]

humans can make mistakes, but at least you have a chance of finding good ones with correct info

with AI, you don't have that chance - an LLM will always just be an LLM

[lament seal]

it's like you're saying "why go with a chance of getting a poisoned skittle when I could just lick this dart frog instead?"

[winter geode]

As much as I hate AI, I don't think this is the place for arguing about it

[lament seal]

fair enough

[ornate hatch]

how do i equip my founder emote ?

[cursive pond]

it's a notmistake when someone is just giving a "it should help reply" which is a random guess i can make on my own. I have had more times grok helping out than not. its not 100 percent everything but most of the time it has helped so i got no issues with it

[bright ridge]

how do i download soul frame

[ornate hatch]

you need a key to activate the game then dowload it from their website

[finite stone]

You press the download button at https://www.soulframe.com/en/download

[bright ridge]

oh cant i download n then do a key?

[lament seal]

You can download it from https://www.soulframe.com/en/download
Note that you'll need a key, though, here's how you get one: #envoy-gathering message

[bright ridge]

and second would it be free degadless?

[cursive pond]

yep you can. i did it that way

[bright ridge]

would it be free downthe line***

[finite stone]

There are no founders emotes. If you mean the motif, you can equip the in-game one from esc > top-left menu, and the forum one in https://www.soulframe.com/en/user

[ornate hatch]

aaaah ok !

ty

[finite stone]

It's already free, but down the line it will also not require a key once it goes from closed alpha to open alpha (or even straight to open beta depending on DE's choice of naming)

[winter geode]

Is it just me that finds archers frustrating?
I feel like their aim is perfect and you can't really avoid them

Do I have to start zigzagging or something? But then they do that annoying explosive shot too 😭

[finite stone]

Yeah their aim got massively buffed in P11, you have to parry or dodge them by timing it with their voice barks

[lament seal]

they usually do a voiceline (like "Fire!") the moment before they attack

[arctic hazel]

You can quite easily dodge through an arrow with timing on the voice cue

[cursive pond]

damn im gonna get too used to the instant teleport back to the base to the game world compared to warframe when i go back to warframe lol

[finite stone]

nightfold feels sooo good doesn't it! I feel like I don't appreciate it enough now that I'm used to it

it used to be even better before P11 too, you could go there with a single tap rather than having to hold tab. And you could do it whilst crouched

[cursive pond]

it really its so instant and then back to the game instantly

[lament seal]

I like nightfold but I don't like how it slows your character's run speed down so much while you're in it lol

[finite stone]

Yeah they really need to make the jog/walk movespeed a keyboard toggle https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440319676641968291 and just let us choose how fast we want to move our own character

[winter geode]

dodgine after the "fire" doesn't always seem to work because there are different voicelines that happen at different times :C

[cursive pond]

i play on controller so its only 2 buttons but still beats going through a load screen from warframe to get to the ship

[vivid cliff]

awww, I had only one animal sleeping near me on today's login... I wonder where they all went!?

[lament seal]

they were crushed along with your pizza

[winter geode]

they were dinner

[vivid cliff]

darnit! 🙂

[lament seal]

-# behind that slight smile lies an ocean of pain

[winter geode]

Is there a specific way I should be playing Orengall?
I just get dunked on trying to do anything and can realistically only use the wolf form for movement and get no other benefits

[zenith knoll]

use the 2's cubs to draw a bit of the enemy aggro away from yourself

and play as you would with pretty much any other pact really

[winter geode]

2? When I summon a second one the first one disappears

[zenith knoll]

after a certain level you can summon 2 cubs instead of 1

[lament seal]

yeah Orengall's 1 is more for movement and for opening combat, once you're in combat it's too risky

[winter geode]

ah I see. I'm 25 atm

[dull solar]

Rank up the pact

[winter geode]

I really hate it because it doesn't always line up the attack correctly and then I slap their ass instead 😭

[lament seal]

for sure, I've started to get in the habit of stopping sprinting once I get close to an enemy and that can give it a bit more time for the finisher prompt to show up

[winter geode]

Aggro doesn't seem to be working correctly, either. It's better than nothing, but some other classes seem to have CC which is more beneficial

[dull solar]

The pups used to get aggro, but they removed that, I think

[zenith knoll]

did they?

[winter geode]

Sometimes they do aggro. it's just not completely effective

[swift kiln]

can you play this game?

[finite stone]

yes, since alpha began in 2023

[winter geode]

I started with Sirin and the decoy doesn't always aggro either. So however the system is set up, it's just not perfect.

[swift kiln]

how can i join ?

[halcyon thicket]

I've also noticed the wolves aren't always aggro

Depends how u spawn them

[lament seal]

see here: #envoy-gathering message

[winter geode]

Every time I spawn them my character tries to throw them a world record distance away 😭

[halcyon thicket]

Lol i just put some distance between me and the enemies then cast

[winter geode]

Seems like you're better off with ranged weapons for the class, so I'm making things harder when I'm levelling melee

[drifting cape]

with sirin, you shouldve been going butterfly mode after placing the clone

[dim egret]

I have a problem logging into the game, I got a 10-year ban for unclear reasons. Has anyone experienced this?

[halcyon thicket]

You'll have to open a support ticket

Many false flag bans reported

[full hearth]

It may look like a 10 year ban but that's permanent. Likely a false positive as others have seen similar.

But like Shatter said, you'll have to open a support ticket.

https://support.soulframe.com/hc/en-us

[dim egret]

I wrote but I have been waiting since 30 December

[dull solar]

They've only been back for a week, give it some more time

[ornate hatch]

i need a translator

what does ANY of that mean

[unkempt sphinx]

H is hosting

T3 is tale rank 3

Arena is an objective inside a glades dungeon that is 20 waves of enemies for experience farming

[ornate hatch]

ooh like tales from syndicat

[unkempt sphinx]

NE is Northeast area top right of map

[ornate hatch]

ooh ok ye i'm omw to try and find this because apprantly thats the best way to xp ?

[ornate hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[vivid cliff]

what does it mean when I have the little green moon over my healthbar?

[uncut sapphire]

Yup but doesn’t spawn in glades 100% of the time

[ornate hatch]

ty for the answers !

[uncut sapphire]

It’s a buff for that virtue branch

[ornate hatch]

well time to test mine :D ty for the info tho

[vivid cliff]

tyvm

[dry shore]

Thoughts? I had rooted maxed out but tbh after a little bit of play I can't tell a difference between base rooted and maxed 😭

[crisp zenith]

it should be slight, but on high level it stacks a bit faster afaik? if it's the same as slow

wait, nvm, wrong talent.

rooted does not feel like much, yeah

[uncut sapphire]

You need a lot of stability to really notice a difference in stagger defence to start with, you might not notice it but it makes a difference

[dry shore]

ahhh okay

I have 20 stagger defence so I felt like rooted wasn't really worth it

[uncut sapphire]

I think you need like 35 stagger defence and normal swords will never be able to stagger but you’ll still be staggered by everything else

[dry shore]

I see

[uncut sapphire]

So staggers important but you can invest heaps better in your tree than using rooted imo

[dry shore]

I've just been stacking courage 😭

[uncut sapphire]

Everyone has been it’s quite literally the best

[dry shore]

Sick

[uncut sapphire]

It’s why they want to completely rework the virtues

[zenith knoll]

stability scales like garbage honestly

[dry shore]

tbh other than high level cogah I feels like everything has the same hp most of the time

[dull solar]

People call endless arena now?

[zenith knoll]

yeah cuz it's no longer endless

[lament seal]

it's technically not endless now but you'll see it referred to as either interchangibly

[dry shore]

just a wait a little while and we can call "endless" elite ball knowledge

[dull solar]

I thought the name would just stick 😅

[vivid cliff]

since you guys seem willing to answer dumb question, does it mean something when 2 of the 3 colors on my sword are lit up? they also seem to correspond to virtue colors...

[dull solar]

It's when you use the corresponding abilities of your pact (I think?)

[lament seal]

no

it's this

[dull solar]

Ah

[dry shore]

interesting

[finite stone]

It's all explained in the glossary DE wrote for recruiting #looking-for-group message

[sullen pond]

i have another stupid question, i sold my royal tines and found that it comes from the torment stag quest. can i get it again by replaying the fable?

[uneven urchin]

wait wait wait so weapons do have passive uniques? i thought the only differences were stats where'd you read this? or is it not ingame and someone typed that out in a wiki after some science?

[uncut sapphire]

If you look on Avakot you should be able to find the fragment drop locations 🙂

[sullen pond]

thank you 🙂

[lament seal]

only the founder weapons have this extra passive I believe, and it's all the same passive (pull smite the matching virtue and you get bonus attunement)

[zenith knoll]

which is extremely anecdotical btw, nothing game breaking

[uneven urchin]

right but i mean im surprised they have any passives at all. are there other weapons with passives? of course they aint the pull smite one but still

[lament seal]

only the founder weapons I believe

[uneven urchin]

gotcha

i was hoping otherwise. something to make em more unique besides just stats, otherwise we'd only get one good option per slot

like Igne Mora for example screams I should be doing fire damage. even something simple as

[zenith knoll]

SF weapons are far less diverse in stats than WF weps currently

but that might change eventually

[drifting cape]

honestly yeah would be cool

[lament seal]

the true passive for Igne Mora is being the clear best in slot primary for fashion souls 🔥

[drifting cape]

i hope it does change a bit. i bet it will

[uneven urchin]

right. early access. and hopefully im only griping about something already on their to-do list

[lament seal]

feel free to make a post about that in #1438224662344761345

[finite stone]

There are a few unique effects but I think the founders ones are the most prominent:

• Founders weapons get the unique smite gem passive

• Marrow, Nurash and Stultin get the cleaver moveset, separate to the longsword moveset used by most long blades

• Mockery weapons don't hover whilst using air attacks

• Dewelion has unique heavy attacks, a forward thrust

• Maestro has the cardinal whistling effect on its arrows (only charged shots iirc)

[lament seal]

Mockery weapons don't hover whilst using air attacks
whoa that is weird

[finite stone]

Yeah a lot of people theorised it might help with deciphering the mockery language https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440841974826406032 but no luck so far

[lament seal]

oh I shouldn't use those weapons then, I jump off of cliffs all the time and use the hover to avoid fall damage lol

[uneven urchin]

holy broh is the living wikipedia. those are cool tho. Thanks!

[drifting cape]

to me, founders having passives like that signifies them being kind of a testing ground for future passives copium

[zenith knoll]

yeah definitely

[open sail]

Drakore updates the wiki lol

[zenith knoll]

let them cook as they say

[lament seal]

anyone can update the wiki but Drackore is certainly among the most dedicated on that front

[lament seal]

which we are thankful for

along with all the other people who work on the wiki

[zenith knoll]

once I'm more in the groove of things I'd love to contribute as well

[lament seal]

speaking of which there was something I wanted to add to the bow section on combat arts

[sly escarp]

Nurash uses a different moveset

[finite stone]

Ahh was it tessard? I just remember 2/3 mockery weaps being cleavers

[sly escarp]

Stultin and Marrow's Bane use Cleaver. Nurash uses a different move set only it currently has, but which is somewhat saber-like

[finite stone]

Ohh right I see what you mean!

[sly escarp]

Tessard uses base Long Blade moves

[finite stone]

Wasn't it like a very slightly tweaked one for nurash, just one attack in its combo being different or something? Can't remember exactly but I know it was more subtle

[sly escarp]

So the mockeries are 1 longsword, 1 cleaver, 1 saber

[sly escarp]

Nope! It's a more weavy move set with a spin on the last hit in the combo

Including a false edge cut

It's very distinct

[finite stone]

oooh very nice I'm gonna have to have another play with it, I committed the sin of leveling it in endless so I didn't really get to experience it enough 😂

[sly escarp]

Totally fair!

Nobody expects a random Mockery weapon to have a unique moveset

[finite stone]

https://tenor.com/view/inquisition-monty-python-spanish-inquisition-walk-in-gif-17117394

[sly escarp]

So yeah, if the wiki says Nurash uses the Cleaver moveset, that might need updating

Nurash's moveset ALSO has high lunge distance on each attack, making it an incredible gap closer

Probably the best in the Long Blades grip type in that regard

[finite stone]

It doesn't actually mention specific movesets on the individual weapon pages yet (just the Long Blade section says that two movesets exist and a unique heavy for Dewelion) but it's something that would be good for sure

So I think a couple things need doing, gotta add movesets to the weapons that have altered ones, and also gotta update the Long Blade section to mention Nurash's moveset

[sly escarp]

Hoping they add more weapons with the Saber moveset eventually

Maybe when we get Atavan he'll bring some classic sabers

[finite stone]

Yeah, other than him having a giant chakram didn't DE mention something about him being something of a weapon master or martial arts ancestor? I'm really looking forward to whatever mechanic he serves in the NF

[sly escarp]

Believe he's going to be the one bringing the Weapon Arts remaster with the Arts Manual

Or at least, that would be the assumption

Since both are known to be in the works.

[finite stone]

In that case, he can't some soon enough ⚔️ (and I also want to know more about the Order of the Gyres lol)

[sly escarp]

Plus he seems to have a pact

[halcyon thicket]

Gyre?

[sly escarp]

Which should be interesting

[halcyon thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gyre-ability-3-ability-4-electrocution-gif-8546175705357662680

[sly escarp]

Maybe he's a weapon master trained in a dancing martial art that uses that huge chakram?

It would be cool to see a murder dancer who's a guy. All the WF ones are femme

[finite stone]

Oh yeah, interestingly that'd make him the only NF ancestor to have a pact as well (since Fenn got moved out)

And I guess it'd be our second deity pact, assuming it's a 'Iridis' Hand' equivalent to Mora's Hand

[sly escarp]

True

Hopefully we also get that Mendicant pact sometime

Be perfect for completing the Mendicant King cosplay

[finite stone]

I understand why I didn't know the ins and outs of Nurash's moveset now: it's because I am a heavy attack spammer

Nurash shares the same heavies, including charged and sprint heavies, as cleavers

Playing around more with the light moveset now, but it's definitely nice

[sly escarp]

Ah, interesting, the heavies being shared is kinda odd

But also makes sense

[errant bluff]

im stuck behind the camel He wont let me free

[sly escarp]

You are part of his wares now

He shall smuggle you to other lands and sell you

[errant bluff]

I wish i was joking, but even going out of the area with tab and back in keep me trapped here

im owned now i guess

[sly escarp]

Just relog

Or /unstuck

[errant bluff]

LMAO THE UNSTUCK PUSHED ME INTO HIM NOW IM INSIDE THE CAMEL HAHAH

ima just keep doing unstuck until im outside i guess xD

[sly escarp]

Clearly, to flee the camel you must now become the camel

Strike down your master, and take his place

Sith style

[errant bluff]

I got out but thats such a silly thing lol

I had to type unstuck like 3 times

how the camel was about to be moving if he kept me trapped

[lament seal]

The only thing able to take down capitalist camel, a well-timed strike

[sly escarp]

But in the end, this is exactly what was expected of you all along...for upon striking him down, you shall take his place, having proven yourself the stronger capitalist and raising prices for all!

[lament seal]

Oh I was making a pun on the word "strike" lol

[sly escarp]

(Mostly a joke based on how the Sith work)

[covert badge]

lookatim go

[sly escarp]

Oh, you found the funny circle bug

[errant bluff]

he just took a few uppers no worries

[covert badge]

he's still going. i like him

[finite stone]

I'll admit I think Nurash's moveset is maybe best categorised as a variant of the cleaver moveset @sly escarp

Dewelion is 'Longsword with a unique Heavy combo', which makes sense - it has thrust heavies instead of swipe heavies, everything else is the same (even its sprint heavy)

Nurash is then, essentially, 'Cleaver with a unique Light combo'. It has the same sprint light, sprint heavy, and heavy combo as cleavers - the only thing different is its light combo

Its light combo is definitely distinctive with 4 unique moves, whereas Dewelion's heavy thrusts (2 moves) feel more like a cool unique touch on top of the base moveset, so I can understand wanting to categorise it as its own thing

In a sense, you *could *say that the other cleavers have a variation of the Nurash moveset, where they have a unique light combo 😜 but since there's 2 of them and 1 of Nurash, it definitely feels like 'Cleaver with unique light combo' is the way to go

Probably worth mentioning that Nurash's opening move seems like the 4th attack from the cleaver light combo but is actually a different animation, and then the same goes for Nurash 2nd vs cleaver 2nd. All unique animations for Nurash light attacks. Sorry this is pretty wordy but I love how much detail DE are putting into some of these weapon variations!

[sly escarp]

Interesting!

Sounds like a good idea

And yeah, the variations is AWESOME

[finite stone]

That's the fun testing part done, now just for the writing part 😅

[finite stone]

and the maestro whistle from earlier!! a great touch 🐦

[sly escarp]

Right?

Really glad they're trying to make a lot of the new weapons feel unique

[halcyon thicket]

Weapons need passives

[sly escarp]

Ehhh, not so sure. Would you describe a different moveset as a passive?

What about the "curse" on the mockery weapons?

Feels like they can make unique versions and effects without adding additional powers to a weapon

[covert badge]

I feel like the passives should be up to us to decide ngl

[drifting cape]

wdym

oh you mean collect passives and can put them on your weapon of choice

meh but thats what totems are

[covert badge]

Well, yeah

Idk passives feel redundant. Honestly I think armors should have that sort of thing, I think armor needs more attention.

[lament seal]

like a set bonus?

[finite stone]

Never been a fan of set bonuses. Because they're never really a 'bonus' - just a punishment for anyone who has fun mixing and matching

Armour in general though would benefit from an upgrade/customisation system though I think

-# maybe the emotion motes could come back :3

[blissful wind]

hi everyone, just a question: does anyone has problems with Grimorio? how it works esactly? I'm expiriencing a strange bug I guess (at least compared to some gameplay I have seen on youtube). When I discover a city I get description and yellow marks correctly, once completely uncovered I just get the title and nothing else. I have reported this into bug section but I was curious if anyone had same problem, if is a problem and how to fix. Thank you

[finite stone]

No bug, it's just that the lore isn't written yet because the game is in development

[covert badge]

To that end, though- We can change the appearance of our armor now thanks to Verminia, but I still agree that set bonuses are lame.

[finite stone]

if you have the 'complete' marker (iirc it's golden diamonds on the journal page for a location) then you've completed it, so no need to worry

[sly escarp]

It looks like you may be playing in another language? Some of the localization may still be a WIP, unfortunately.

[blissful wind]

but on certain video (I think prelude 8 or 10) I seen people had to choose a reward after completing something, now I don't so I tought is a bug

[hidden phoenix]

Can you play Soulframe in co-op?
*

[sly escarp]

In those cases you may just have blank entries until they translate them

[hidden phoenix]

Can you play Soulframe in co-op?

[sly escarp]

The rewards from mote collection were removed

[finite stone]

Yeah completely agree that the transmog fortunately lets us override any issue that clothing stat systems otherwise would cause - but yes just a general distaste for that system like you say

[blissful wind]

yes is possible

[sly escarp]

You can, but be warned playing the mian quests in co op often leads to bugs, and may result in some players having to replay the quest or missing quest rewards.

[hidden phoenix]

How is that possible? Can you do everything together?

ok thanks

[blissful wind]

I'll try restart in english to get a clue, thank

[sly escarp]

To play co-op, one player (the Host) sends an invite to up to two other players (the Clients). The Clients will join the Host in their world, and they can then do activities together the same as if the Host was playing solo

[blissful wind]

thank you everyone 🙂

[sly escarp]

Hopefully that works!

[finite stone]

This is excellently worded, mind if I pop that onto the wiki? 🙏

[sly escarp]

If you like!

[covert badge]

I'm ok with armors having their own dedicated stats- That's distinction enough, if armors have dedicated perks (preferable over set bonuses) then, maybe implement a way to unlock those perks to slot into other armors?

[sly escarp]

Honestly, if they do add Perks or Set Bonuses hopefully they add them to low defense armour

Make it so players can make more meaningful choices

Transmog over em, but make it so the tradeoff for a cool perk is a lower def total

[finite stone]

Low-defense mage armour, but with some cool perks for magick weapons etc, would be great

[sly escarp]

Plus, it avoid armour just being "Mash the best armour stats together then transmog overtop it"

Maybe you sacrifice some defense for a perk that makes Short Blades do increased Finisher dmg or something

[covert badge]

Where's the sense of progression in that? I sorta get the idea there but I feel like it's fundamentally more liberating and rewarding if you invest into an armor enough to have it's perk free to swap and place on others as you please.

[finite stone]

Maybe when we get the wazzard outfit or a nide wide-brimmed wizard's hat 🧙‍♂️ that'd be a good chance for DE to experiment

[sly escarp]

Maybe, but it would encourage armour builds other than "minmax stats", which is a current problem with the system

[covert badge]

Isn't armor already specialized in it's own way? I've got armor on that's. Insanely vulnerable to magic like, I have no magic defense

[winter geode]

Heya.
I know people talk about stacking courage.
Is that assuming that you respec a weapon for courage or is always better regardless?
Like if I have a grace weapon I assume it scales with grace for dps

[covert badge]

Yeah, attuned stat weapons get stronger if you have a higher stat in that category

[finite stone]

stacking courage typically refers to pumping it for the purpose of pact scaling, but you'd always make sure to hit your weapon's attune cap before doing any pact scaling

and if you want to stack courage, it makes sense to either use a courage-attuned weapon, or change a spirit/grace weapon to be courage attuned using a blessed joinery

[covert badge]

If I had to compromise, then maybe have the perk lower a specific stat when slotted into another armor?

[sly escarp]

That could work!

Maybe the "perks" all have some downside when equipped

[crisp zenith]

does having higher stats in the scaling give better dmg to the weapon aswell? would it be recommended to do so or is it just best to have the min required and the allocare the rest in smth else?

[winter geode]

wait, "pact scaling"?

[covert badge]

Unless attached to their original armor.

[crisp zenith]

yes, pact abilities scale based on the three main stats.

(red courage, blue grace, green spirit)

[sly escarp]

Yeah. Kinda like Helmith where they remove or modify abilities when subsumed

[finite stone]

there's two parts to https://wiki.avakot.org/Attunement , you're got the requirement which is essential if you want to do any reasonable damage, and then you've got the cap which you ideally want to hit. After hitting the cap, you're free to allocate elsewhere for pact purposes

[winter geode]

oh I see what you mean. I interpreted the term differently just then so got confused

[crisp zenith]

gotcha, so it works like elden ring basically 🤔 . ty!

[winter geode]

I just want to do whatever requires me to not have to think about it because noodling with my stats is unfun 😂

[finite stone]

This might change in about 3 weeks' time, but right now just:

• Hit your weapon and sidearm's attune caps (ideally these should be same virtue unless you've levelling some MR fodder)
• Put all the rest in courage

And you can't go far wrong! 😄

[winter geode]

I haven't used any joineries since things will change at some point and they don't seem fun to think about

[sly escarp]

Joineries are probably The Best boost to your weapon in the game atm

[winter geode]

I lose damage but also save myself time and effort, presumably

[sly escarp]

And were overhauled recently so might not get a revision pass for a bit

Additionally, as long as you aren't using blessed, there's no real downside to appplying one

[finite stone]

Yeah don't worry, they're definitely not essential (though even just a polished one can be a very fun boost to DPS/lifesteal if there's a weapon you love) - if you're worried about investing stuff you should be fine til the next update, but if you ever need a little boost don't be afraid to throw a polished on a strong weapon to help you out

[sly escarp]

Since they won't reset your weapon level

If nothing else they're a handy late game resource sink.

[winter geode]

I'm very early game atm

[sly escarp]

Ah, yeah.

Might be too early to worry about em then

[winter geode]

and I didn't know non-blessed didn't reset so that's cool to know for the future

[sly escarp]

Would say wait until you have 3-4 pacts before you stress too much about em

[tired sail]

Might be worth waiting until P13, our virtue spread is going to be determined by an item now instead

[solid musk]

why da G so big?

GRINN

[winter geode]

a very wide grin

[finite stone]

Did somebody say Grynne?!

[halcyon thicket]

Grineer.

What happened to these huh

Displayed all the way back in P9 i think

[finite stone]

If you want to end him quickly, hold your spear and sword together on your arm, unscrew the pommel of your sword and throw it at him vigorously.

[sly escarp]

Still likely a WIP

Those look barely modeled

[smoky crater]

Ye tbf there's a loooooooot of stuff we've seen concepts for but never been added

[winter geode]

hey is Orengall coded to only show up when you don't need her help? 'cause like... c'mon lady

[finite stone]

There was even a Dendrit crossbow separate to the Ode one, I have no idea where this came from

Bell cleaver too! All sorts of stuff. Exciting to look forward to though

[winter geode]

that looks sick

[smoky crater]

Well with the crossbow the thing is... Steve is a hardcore fan of those things

[zenith knoll]

that looks incredibly unwieldy i love it

[sly escarp]

That's the Knell Knight's weapon!

Isn't it?

Or at least it looks similar. Shorter hilt.

[finite stone]

omg yes naito you're right!!

-# upcoming knell knight greatsword drop in P13, DE?

[median sedge]

hey all - I purchased the Thawtide Motifs. How do I use them? Don't see them in my inventory.

[sly escarp]

Looks more like a polearm!

[sly escarp]

Go to your Map, and click on the Soulframe logo by your name

[uncut sapphire]

New great sword 😮

That looks like it gives some good bonks

Must get

[winter geode]

it's for enemies to use as my tombstone when I die mid-greedy charged attack

[median sedge]

Sweet! thanks. Will do that 🙂

[winter geode]

I wish I could get used to greatswords :c

[sly escarp]

Gotta put an attack speed totem on and build Stability a bit

It helps a bit with not getting staggered

[winter geode]

is slow high damage weapon ultimately better than faster low damage weapons? because of enemy armour or whatever

[halcyon thicket]

That's knell knight's

[sly escarp]

Also, dodge, don't parry. Greatswords have a big commitment window on attacks, and you want to hit lots to stagger the enemy. Parry is a strong Defense playstyle, dodge is better if you're playing aggressive.

Also, consider a Polished Gildaur joinery for life steal

[finite stone]

yup! #gameplay-discussion message

[halcyon thicket]

Oh i wasnt scrolled down

[halcyon thicket]

Yes very much so

[winter geode]

That's kinda unfortunate

[finite stone]

kiiinda, I feel like you can get loads of damage out of the single dagger moveset especially if you kick (or grapple) into a double-swipe charged heavy, but you really do have to use charged heavies to overcome the current enemy armour system

[halcyon thicket]

Unless you use feybalt joineries or tethren

[winter geode]

I'm still quite new so I find fights take a while. I saw some videos where people were oneshotting stuff and I think that's a little beyond me right now lol

With greatsword I was just having such a hard time
SnS seemed nice though. The shield throw is beautiful

[nova summit]

That's just tethren pact lol, up to a 15x damage multiplier on last hit with your first ability if i didnt mess the maths up

[uncut sapphire]

Yeah multiplies each consecutive attack, resets if you miss or get interrupted

You need high stagger res if your trying it with the great sword, or just get the last hit off the boss using the other small mobs around to stack the multiplier

[sly escarp]

SnS is unfortunately a bit weak atm, solely due to only having 2 weapons in the class

Once 1-2 more get added it'll probably become very popular

[uncut sapphire]

Get to be a naked gladiator then 🥹 I couldn’t be happier

[halcyon thicket]

SnS does have a rune that makes it broken

[sly escarp]

True, Durglint is a bit...bugged atm

[nova summit]

Or even nastier.

• Use a bow
• Get 6 shots on the way to the boss
• Fish smite ads using arrow hail (it doesn't consume charges)
• Use smite pull to trigger The Torrent (it also doesnt consume charges if used with arrow hail) and wipe all ads on the way to the boss
• One tap boss
• Repeat

[uncut sapphire]

Yeah that is pretty much the go, I tend to avoid the bows atm though

[winter geode]

oh I haven't tried cogah yet so I can't get some of the fancier runes

[uncut sapphire]

You can cheese almost every boss in this game atm with the bugs

I cheesed tf outa vella for her rune 😂

[winter geode]

maybe if I get bored of playing the game

[lament seal]

tethren + any Feybalt-reforged magick weapon is also super cheesy before you have torrent lol

[nova summit]

I like bows because unlike melee, getting staggered during attacks does not count as a "miss" losing you 2 charges

[uncut sapphire]

Gotta say though it takes a hot minute to kill vella with level 15 fly blades

[neat solstice]

The 4k dmg slash…

[uncut sapphire]

I just love running around bonking everything

[nova summit]

I feel like range has a bit more oomph than melee rn
Lowkey i feel melee is in a pretty bad spot

[halcyon thicket]

Try 50k

[silent gorge]

how to level up and my pact fast?

[uncut sapphire]

Idk bout that my great sword still almost one shots bosses

[winter geode]

It's not fast per se, but I do my faction stuff

[halcyon thicket]

Use recruit chat for arena

[uncut sapphire]

It’s definitely lacking compared to the rest and you needa get somewhat lucky, but doing bonks are hillarious

[uncut sapphire]

No one searches for em anymore I end up running them half the time 🥲

[cursive pond]

so is it normal that the world map still looks faded even after exploring around?

[silent gorge]

i cant do it solo?

[halcyon thicket]

You can

But it' won't be as fast

[sly escarp]

Gotta unspear the World Trees to unfog the map

[halcyon thicket]

You need to cleanse worlds rtees

[cursive pond]

hmm k how do i do that i just been following the quest

[brittle nacelle]

especially the finding it part, you will probably find someone hosting an arena before you find it

[sly escarp]

Look for big white trees with no leaves

[halcyon thicket]

You should've done it at the very beginning

[nova summit]

But enemies dealing damage/stagger without animations (that you normally dont really notice since armor tanks it) become a pain in the ass in melee at high lvl cogah. Range gets more damage, easier smites and braindead ai that cant close the gap

[sly escarp]

Interact with the spear in the trunk

[sly escarp]

They made it optional in the new version

For some reason

[cursive pond]

hmm might of missed that

[halcyon thicket]

When? I played p12 on a new account

[uncut sapphire]

Finding it’s pretty easy once yk where they can spawn in each tile

Some tiles won’t ever spawn the arena

[sly escarp]

They made it so Nimrod shows up and leaves, but you're never actually forced to go to the tree

[halcyon thicket]

Ah

[uncut sapphire]

I’ve only seen 6 tiles so far that spawn them but I’ve only seen it on those 2 tiles once out of the several times I’ve had to find them

[uncut sapphire]

Yeah but bonk

[nova summit]

I replayed the tutorial, and the birdo may decide to not even go towards the tree, so you might not even see the nimrod or anything...

[drifting cape]

wow i guess i just found out how much histories do for MR. specifically getting all the motes in an area? seems to do a huge chunk

[sly escarp]

Yup, they add a fair amount

[winter geode]

oh damn. Maybe I should do them then

[brittle nacelle]

maybe easier but it's not gtd to spawn and rng can still screw you over

[fast hatch]

Do we know how XP split works?

[halcyon thicket]

Holstered weapon doesn't get XP afaik

Unequipped*

[sly escarp]

It does if it got a hit in iirc, excpet for Mockeries who give to the last weapon they were hit by pre smite

So it's split between pact + all weapons that hit the enemy at least once.

[tired sail]

I'll sometimes see holstered weapons level up, seemingly from nothing, so they might get a very small amount. Only really noticeable on a new weapon

[open sail]

holstered weapons get plenty of exp, like 5-6 endless to level one without touching it

[sly escarp]

When did you last do this, by chance?

[tired sail]

Is this playing solo or co-op?

[sly escarp]

Also yeah, co-op would impact it

[fast hatch]

pre smite?

[sly escarp]

Mockeries need to be smited to be killed permanently.

Smite is the Crit mechanic of the game, where an enemy will start to glow. Gotta go soul mode and attack to pull the glow out

[tired sail]

Random Orengall appears

[open sail]

like 4 days ago?

[tired sail]

The only way I've seen a mockery die without smite

[fast hatch]

ohh didn't know you needed to smite to kill them permanently

do we know the xp split %?

[sly escarp]

No clue tbh

They removed the visible XP numbers on kill a while ago

[tired sail]

Assuming the summary screen is correct, nettle gained exp after killing Ruthos. This is after a fresh login, but could be attributed to "bonus" affinity rather than affinity awarded on kill.

[halcyon thicket]

Cogah?

[tired sail]

Nope

[halcyon thicket]

Well i guess their level doesn't scale so

[tired sail]

Using an alt for testing other things

[halcyon thicket]

You know i actually thought of an XP farm earlier but idk if its viable

Maybe if ur willing u can test it

[solid musk]

T posing birbs

[halcyon thicket]

You know the banneret outside fort Kearnhold? You can kill him and relog

But idk how much XP he grants on kill

[tired sail]

Also new players "unlock" the waste bear way too early. More forced into it the way quest progression works now.

[halcyon thicket]

So might not be viable

How so

[tired sail]

After completing the Torment Stag, they're pointed to a shrine to read a note which initiates tracking for Brewer of Hues. Once they complete that quest, the Waste bear is automatically added to tracked quests.

[halcyon thicket]

Ah I remember this ye

[tired sail]

It seems that "An Invitation" will always appear if there is a new quest available, so you can easily run into mid game quests way too early

It's more so that players are directly guided to the next available quest now instead of wandering into them. I guess the change was because the world was way too open and people were having trouble starting new quests.

[halcyon thicket]

So much for exploring huh

[tired sail]

Hope the walls help in the future, by making world exploration more "linear", so the paths players are required to travel causes them to stumble into quests.

[finite stump]

I just started the game and accidently made my character female. Is the a way to go back or will I be able to change it later?

[tired sail]

Kind of the ds2 approach I guess, where a more linear world feels more open than it really is.

[halcyon thicket]

Not yet

[tired sail]

Not sure if the new update will add gender swapping, but it is expected to add more customization.

[winter geode]

ooh

[finite stump]

Damn. Guess I have to wait longer to play this game then. Was so excited to finally try it. That sucks.

[winter geode]

although without transmog I can't see my face 😭

[finite stump]

Just bought a founders pack too.

[tired sail]

There is the helmet emote

[winter geode]

I tried it but I just nod instead. Seemed bugged

[solid musk]

stuck in a wall

[tired sail]

It just toggles the face visor, not sure if the new helmets are set up to toggle.

You can also use bestitch to go helmet less

[winter geode]

while I'm happy to spend money, that's not what I'd wanna spend money on lol

[tired sail]

Ah, seems they don't have the "trial" moonsteel thread anymore for new accounts.

[winter geode]

From what I read, they cut down on a lot of free stuff for new accounts

less arcs, less slots etc

[tired sail]

I don't really know about less arcs aside from the oldest accounts.

[winter geode]

I heard it was 200 before

It's not important, just fomo

[smoky crater]

arcs wasn't exactly reduced.

they just gave an extra 50 during P10, and on P11 launch to those who were already in

[tired sail]

Checking a different alt I had that's never spent arcs, it looks like you're right about 200 total

[halcyon thicket]

They shouldn't removed starter moonsteal thread, doing that and adding microtrans'actions Is weird af

[sly escarp]

Not sure they intended to

If you didn't get starting Moonsteel thread, reach out to support

[halcyon thicket]

You don't anymore

[sly escarp]

Heard of a case of someone doing that and apparently it was a bug issue?

[halcyon thicket]

Watched brozime do a p12 walkthrough

[tired sail]

Can confirm that my newest alt for testing new game stuff doesn't get the moonsteel thread, but it's not really an issue for a test account

[sly escarp]

Which may be a bug

[winter geode]

they don't mean that they lost the thread they have. They mean that a new account doesn't get one

[sly escarp]

Try asking support about it, they can say if it was intended or not

[sly escarp]

Yes, and we did hear of someone who experienced that, reached out to support, and was informed it was a bug

So filing a ticket can at least let you know if it was an intended change or if the starting thread is bugged ATM

[winter geode]

strange

[tired sail]

Oh, adding to the thing about affinity, casting a pact ability does grant affinity to holstered weapons.

[winter geode]

I imagine there's more pressing bugs to worry about and it's not an emergency for me atm

[frozen coral]

How do I get the thawtide armor? is it just rng drops for freeing the sparrows?

[tired sail]

Drops from Thawtide enemies

[halcyon thicket]

Sirin might still have the infinite XP glitch since you can cancel an ability by dodging

[tired sail]

There is an alt helmet that drops from level 30+ thawtide enemies too. Not that different cosmetically but it is there.

Back when we could see affinity numbers, I think casts were only like +25, so not exactly worth the time it takes unless you can bypass the cd on sirin.

[drifting cape]

anyone hit over 1k animal dust saving an animal before? idk how that happened

[tired sail]

Certain rare animals are worth more and the dust that can randomly spawn as note also gives a fairly large chunk.

[full hearth]

The rarer the animal, the more harmony you get for perfect notes and the harmony note.

[neat solstice]

Was wondering how I get into the preludes server. Am I supposed to receive some kind of email? Clicking the Discord button just sends me here

[regal shadow]

preludes merged with this one, it's read only as of now and cant be accessed anymore

[neat solstice]

Rip

[red kraken]

I unlocked camera mode guys! 😅

[winter geode]

Oh holy shit you can stealth roll

I'm unstoppable

[tropic nacelle]

how does one get better gear?

[sly escarp]

Craft it at the blacksmith. To get the fragments to craft, Faction Tales are a good early way to get some stuff

[tropic nacelle]

ok thanks

[fast hatch]

bruh these crafing timers are runing my weekends 😭

[tropic nacelle]

fr

[lament seal]

if it helps, you can craft any amount of items simultaneously

I crafted every weapon I could and left it at the steelsinger's until I have room to pick up the next one

you don't need slots for weapons or pacts until you actually pick them up

[tropic nacelle]

how many slots does you start out with?

[lament seal]

you start with 3 pact slots and 6 weapon slots

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Inventory explains slots/starting slots

don't really know what the limit is for older accounts (pre-P11), it's higher than what's listed but unsure of exact numbers

[tropic nacelle]

thanks

[fast hatch]

brother its the frame crafting times and resources that get me

sometimes feels like a full time job getting the mats to make a new one, then I gotta wait till next weekend to try it out 😭

and the fact that most weapons aren't really useful in high level content till they're maxed ruins the feeling of progression 🤣 (like to level my account I need to max a weapon but to do that I gotta use it in a weak state)

[smoky crater]

Pacts are only like... 26h no?

[fast hatch]

holy shit

[winter geode]

a lifetime

[fast hatch]

that's insanely long

[smoky crater]

It...isn't?

[fast hatch]

maybe for u man, but that's multiple weekends for me

[smoky crater]

Tho ig people can interpret long differently

[lament seal]

I'm used to Warframe, where a new frame is three and a half days

[winter geode]

It's obviously personal preference. If you just have the weekend to play then you aren't really going to be able to do anything

[fast hatch]

yeah I just have weekends

[winter geode]

But at that point.. it might be worth it just to play something else as harsh as that sounds

[fast hatch]

honestly you might be right

this feels like a second job 🤣

[smoky crater]

But like it's not like it's 26h of gameplay or that you'd need to be in the game for the time to pass

[winter geode]

This game is just the free time waster. So if you don't have much time, why are you wasting it

[fast hatch]

what do u mean?

[fast hatch]

hahahah this is true

[smoky crater]

It's 26h of real life time.

[winter geode]

you can kinda engineer it so you craft something Sunday night and it's done by next saturday

[fast hatch]

I mean leveling too

[smoky crater]

The timer keeps going even when you're offline

[winter geode]

levelling is the entire game

[smoky crater]

Is what i mean

[fast hatch]

yeah I set that up wrong or don't have materials to craft till sunday and its next weekend

[tired sail]

It's secretly a creature collector game

[smoky crater]

A ye

[fast hatch]

ik, just wish I wasn't so long

[lament seal]

well, it's a free to play live service game, isn't that how they tend to be?

[fast hatch]

like I wanna try builds but I feel like I have to take a second job to be able to start to have fun lol

[winter geode]

I have the free time atm, so I'll grind it to dust and then move on to more meaningful games that don't exploit the "number go up" part of my brain (until there's a new update I guess)

[fast hatch]

not saying they don't, just wish it wasn't SO slow

[lament seal]

nothing stops you from working on the materials for your next goal while the previous one is crafting either

[winter geode]

If you have the money, you could always just buy the classes so you don't have to craft them and that way you can spend the rest of your time levelling... although that isn't really ideal

[tired sail]

That also kind of removes content in a way, and we don't really have a gameplay loop yet.

[finite stone]

depending on the job you have, it can actually take less time to work overtime and buy some ingame stuff with real money

but then as Dystopia says, you're removing grind content, and for many of us the grind is a huge part of the fun

[winter geode]

Grind your IRL so you don't need to grind in game

[lament seal]

yeah at the current moment the longer grinds are more just an excuse to keep the gameplay loop going so you're not solely playing just for being QA for DE

if Dewelion or Gathannan are too long of a grind for you (they certainly are for me) then neither are necessary to play the game

[zenith knoll]

gath sounds a lot harder to grind than dewe

i have the latter but not the former

[white igloo]

RNG seems all over the place tbh

Took me forever to get my hands on Purity, with so many King helmet fragment dupes and Greatsword runes

He gave me 9 total Fire Greatsword Runes before I eventually got it.
He still refuses to drop Treefell

[zenith knoll]

I didn't struggle that much for dewe but I recently joined Alca's Children to farm gath and oof

[smoky crater]

Im just happy i got mine back when it was a guaranteed drop from castellan

[tired sail]

I don't think Gath can drop from alca's children. You want to hunt the Vadagar stag for those fragments.

[white igloo]

Gath is that polearm that drops from Stag if he spawns in a specific area, right?

[finite stone]

No specific area, it's just a vadagar stag drop in general

[finite stone]

They meant to do stag tales, I assume

[lament seal]

meanwhile I got one Purity fragment from Collector then got a Purity, Helm, Purity from a kingshare lol

[smoky crater]

Can also drop from the one at the end of 2-3 star tales

[livid thistle]

When the community SoulFrame Server dropping, we want VCs

[zenith knoll]

oh. crap i mixed it up with something else

[tired sail]

Can spawn in multiple areas but only once per night.

[livid thistle]

I could make one but nobody finna join it fr 😭

[tired sail]

I don't believe it was ever added to their faction shop, and also not from their t3 faction tales as far as I can tell.

[finite stone]

there are already various community servers with active VCs - think youtubers, fansites, etc

[finite stone]

Stag tales = tale ending with a stag. They were talking about doing tales to get the stag at the end

[white igloo]

I still need 1 fragment of Gath
No clue where weapons like Dewelion, Witan, or Nurash drop... (mostly cuz either lazy to look it up, or the wiki straight up doesn't have the info)

Rook is a faction weapon, right?

[zenith knoll]

I couldve sworn Alca's Children tales could drop frags but I guess not

[halcyon thicket]

There is one south east that always spawns but it's a little tricky to get the right one

[finite stone]

Not directly, but if it ends with a stag, you get the stag droptable by killing the stag just as if you found a stag in the wild

[lament seal]

from Silent Rose, yeah

[winter geode]

I think you get dewelion from dungeons? But maybe I'm missing something but I don't really like going in dungeons :c

[white igloo]

I don't like dungeons cuz I always think there's a secret puzzle and there's not many videos on those yet

[sly escarp]

Dewelion from Sieges and some Dungeon Agari

[zenith knoll]

yeah so "just farm the stag" in other words, doesn't matter if it's in a tale or not

[white igloo]

like how I discovered too late that I was, in fact, not meant to kill a ghost and instead let it attack me while shoving a statue from one end of a room to another

[finite stone]

or the wiki straight up doesn't have the info

For what? It has the drop sources for all 3 of the weapons you listed. Let me know if anything specific's missing, and I can add it for you now

[white igloo]

Lemme check

[finite stone]

Yeah this puzzle is a bit of a pain as a new player once there's no more enemies in the crypt 😭 decent extra loot once you know about it though

[fast hatch]

where's the soulframe game assets folder?

[white igloo]

Well, it's mainly armor that lacks drop source info, like Orengall's Fang

[finite stone]

But it's on there?

[white igloo]

Huh

[winter geode]

the siege never gives me anything 😭

[finite stone]

Glades rare chests are the only dropsource of orengall's fang in the game

[white igloo]

Oh, I'm looking at the other wiki

that explains why there's a lack of info https://soulframe.wiki.fextralife.com/Orengall's+Fang

[finite stone]

Yup, that wiki doesn't get updated

[lament seal]

yeah fextralife is always terrible

[sly escarp]

That wiki got abandoned or smth

It's awful

[white igloo]

yet for some reason, it's the one that pops up at the top for me 💀

[sly escarp]

avakot.org is better

[white igloo]

...there's also soulframe.wiki.gg apparently

[winter geode]

yeah that site should be the default but fextralife dominates all of gaming for some reason while also putting out shit information for everything

[white igloo]

anyway gonna bookmark avakot.org now

[finite stone]

Depends which siege - Dewelion only drops from the Kearnhold one I believe (it used to be a Malrog drop before getting moved into the actual siege drops)

[tired sail]

I thought they might have been referring to the P12H6 patch notes

[visual radish]

just to make sure you are burning the big red baloon right?

[finite stone]

That's because of SEO, Fextra is a big for-profit company so they can game the google stuff pretty well. Despite Avakot being the more up to date wiki, it hasn't been picked up as much by google yet so it relies on community members helping each other to find it for now!

[winter geode]

ya I checked the site and have started doing that. But 3 hours is a long time. I'll try the dungeons out

[winter geode]

Yep, I'll just have to do more I guess.

[lament seal]

iirc at one point fextralife was caught using AI to fill out their wiki for new games to work over SEO even more

not to mention the bit of drama a while back where they would embed their stream on every page to effectively viewbot their twitch channel

[white igloo]

Gotcha. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction

[fast hatch]

that's actually kinda clever lol

[winter geode]

sure but the advertisers didn't think so

[lament seal]

yeah companies would use view counts and similar metrics to determine who to sponsor (and for how much), that's why fextralife would viewbot their channel

[muted flax]

I know akavot has its own tracker, but if it helps anyone I have an excel sheet here to check off what you already have and still need to get. Once you have all loot from a boss it will appear green in the overview tab

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C-QK26-_tvbZwYlODE--75RftmIHxyLkjzjroMn2jPk/edit?usp=drivesdk

Just make a personal copy from the template

[white igloo]

Is it bad I want a NPC in Soulframe that's like Rya from Elden Ring?

[finite stone]

No it is very good and I agree 100% 🐍

especially if she gets her good ending where she goes on an adventure to find herself

[white igloo]

best snake girl, FromSoftware cowards for not making her a marriage option or fighting companion summon

[pallid wasp]

Am I missing something? Combat feels very lacking in this game

[white igloo]

It is still pre-alpha

iirc weapons eventually will get their own "stances" and gimmicks

[pallid wasp]

That'll be neat

[white igloo]

I mean, some weapons in the game rn have some unique traits, mostly the Founder weapons that'll be farmable later on (save for Paragon).
But Runes also change some stuff up, mostly the runes you can get from Cogah (hard mode). Or, just the regular boss drop runes

[sly escarp]

There's a lot more weapons with quirks than you'd think

Nurash has a variant light attack combo, for example

And Maestro sings on Charged Shot

[finite stone]

On the topic of the sparrow's tale reward drops from earlier, just a quick community announcement! The wiki now has a full table of all tale drops, thanks to the work of the amazing @dapper flame

The table is sortable by enclave, and will automatically update with the droptables whenever they change as well - previously there was no way to see the full list in one place so hopefully this helps people with their farming

[white igloo]

I don't own Nurash, mostly cuz fragments refuse to drop for me

also don't all bows have unique sound effects for their arrows? Blitz seems to have a deeper, much stronger sounding tone if that makes sense

[untold ravine]

ok i must be doing something wrong, any help is appreciated
my dodges feel really delayed, if they go off at all
blocking and parrying doesn't work half the time; i still get fully hit
level 30+ enemies are two shotting me (namely the Banneret)
i'm getting staggered by almost every attack
and i've yet to parry or block any of those glowy attacks, so i'm lead to believe you can't do so and they have to be dodged

[zenith knoll]

have you tried looting with Sirin? I forget if this works on mockeries but might as well

[red kraken]

k

wrong discord lol mb

[finite stone]

I think it used to work on mockery spirits (pre-husk) but now doesn't work at all for mockeries? Hopefully I'm wrong though

[white igloo]

I mean, it only works if the enemy is unaware of you, right?
Mockeries don't "spawn" unless they're alerted and go into their zombie bodies

also I'm grinding faction XP to get my hands on default Siren, before finishing leveling Wyld Siren

...though I also need to grind a crap ton for brass

sitting at around 10 brass, but nearly 500 for both Iron and Steel

[tired sail]

You can still look the unalerted ghosts with sirin

[white igloo]

wack if true

also kinda wish that abilities had a duration timer

[zenith knoll]

per the wiki,

[white igloo]

So... what'd be a good farm spot for those Mockery spirits then?

[zenith knoll]

though it couldve changed at some point

[tired sail]

Unfortunately you can't loot trap mockeries.

[winter geode]

you can't block the glowing attacks unless you put skill points in that. By default those are the ones you have to avoid

idk about your delay

[tired sail]

Maybe you're mixing it up with endless mockeries not droping anything

[finite stone]

I thiiink this might still be based on P11 test data (abilities are due a whole fresh round of testing after P13 drops) but @velvet island might be able to confirm better than I can

[zenith knoll]

yknow what, I will test it in a moment

[untold ravine]

it could just be me, it just feels like there's a delay is all

[finite stone]

Kearnhold crypt relog is a good one, or glades runs for xp + fang farm at the same time

[velvet island]

it technically works still, but the mockery spirits do not have a loot table anymore, only when possessing

[white igloo]

I found 2 random holes in the map

[zenith knoll]

@finite stone sent you a quick dm btw

[finite stone]

Ah rip so it's like you're successfully pickpocketing air 😭

[velvet island]

exactly

[zenith knoll]

oh

[winter geode]

I do feel sluggish. But enemy attacks are just really fast. They have long windups but then they'll attack suddenly if that makes sense

[tired sail]

What fps is your game playing at?

[untold ravine]

hovers around 140 rn

[livid thistle]

Yeah but, yk how the Warframe Server is the community one, im tryna see when or if someone is gonna make a soulframe one soon

[tired sail]

And just making sure, but you aren't using frame gen?

[untold ravine]

i am, but even without it i get 80fps

DLSS Quality

[tired sail]

There is some noticeable input latency at lower frame rates, but that's probably closer to 60fps and below.

[winter geode]

Which class are you playing?

I feel like if you have oscelda or whatever that is called. You can heal yourself while you spar with 1 low level enemy. Practice the moves

[untold ravine]

Tethren (not Wyld)
trying to max things out before trying something else out

[zenith knoll]

tethren is the "you can't die if you kill enemies first" pact

[untold ravine]

honestly i feel that
i'm just not doing enough damage half the time, unless it's with the Pull Smite - which does an absurd amount in comparison i swear

[smoky crater]

It does kinda exist even above 60 but not as much.

[winter geode]

I try to do heavy attacks 90% of the time. That usually gets through

[white igloo]

The amount of times I find Avakot chilling out with Ode soldiers or in those Mockery grave sites

[winter geode]

Also enemies will predict your movement. I'm not sure if that's intentional.
So dodging doesn't always pan out

[untold ravine]

main thing that's getting me is that my blocks half the time just don't work
i can understand missing parries, but even if i just hold block, i still take the full hit as if i'm not blocking

[tired sail]

Not sure how much frame gen affects that too, it holds back the next true frame so that it can insert generated frames, because those are interpolated between the last displayed frame and the next fully rendered

[zenith knoll]

how's your build? do you have weapons with runes and totems and such? tackling the cogah is easier with those

[winter geode]

The magic users who throw bombs will put it where you're going and no dodge will escape it unless you dodge the opposite direction

[elder peak]

Out of curiosity, if I've done the ||wolf, bear, and stag||, how do I unlock more things? I've heard there's a thing called Cogah? And I know I need to grind faction rep with Alca

[smoky crater]

Was talkin about frame gen 👀

[winter geode]

attacks vs your block can break your stability

[tame bobcat]

Gng when does this game release

[untold ravine]

i do try heavy attacks, i just die way too quickly to make it reliable

[elder peak]

I don't know at what point I need to move these questions to the spoiler chat, though

[untold ravine]

i'm not doing Cogah, i just got spawned into a level 35 area and just decided screw it, i'll work with what's near
don't have any runes, don't even know how to get them, but i have a few totems; likely nothing worthwhile tho

[tame bobcat]

<@&1154466146741932193> when does the game release... nobody answered me so I pinged you

[edgy hollow]

[winter geode]

lol

[edgy hollow]

Bruh

[vagrant kayak]

There is no release date, also please don't ping mods for that

[untold ravine]

i'm not getting staggered by it; i'm getting hit as if i'm not blocking

[frail sierra]

[edgy hollow]

We know as much as you do.

[tame bobcat]

Okay

[halcyon thicket]

Lmao

[winter geode]

The higher level enemies are gonna kick your ass harder in general

[halcyon thicket]

Making the mods work overtime

[tame bobcat]

Mb bruh

[untold ravine]

still not what i mean; it's not just the damage
i mean, literally, i'm getting hit as if i'm not blocking
full damage, sound effect, everything
idk what's up with it, maybe elevation? it'd be weird, but i've had the same thing happen to enemies when they were blocking, and elevation was the factor; even if it was just a little

[white igloo]

I really do hope that Virtue rework involves some tweaks to the UI

namely for showing specific ability stat numbers and how Virtue affects them

[zenith knoll]

how's your hp? your defense stats?

[winter geode]

So go to some low level enemies and test it out. Maybe make a video to show the issue better

[drifting cape]

oh i been wondering, are health pots % or flat value

i guess they have to be %

[untold ravine]

how do i actually find that; haven't seen it in UI anywhere yet

[smoky crater]

Armoury in nightfold

[white igloo]

It's only when you're in the Nightfold arsenal

[untold ravine]

i THINK i'vee found defence, but not health

[smoky crater]

Shows it in the topright

[white igloo]

HP is in the Virtue stat window

[smoky crater]

Health is shown in the middle of the virtue distribution screen

[untold ravine]

oh i see

ok 2 secs

[zenith knoll]

defense in the top-right corner, life in the virtue screen

[white igloo]

Stability needs an overhaul fr

[lament seal]

got that couragemaxxing down to a science

[dreamy canyon]

should there be 3 Talismans missing (including the one others got because of the wipe) after collecting all of them in the m in the Compendium?

[white igloo]

I think max courage that's obtainable is 47 rn, right?

[zenith knoll]

need molten mora to get to 48 courage

[white igloo]

cuz I have Molten Mora and max Courage bonus on Wyld Tethren, but at most I have 47

[untold ravine]

using the Wyld Tehren armour
Paragon Talisman
The Ivory
Cobladh (tho it's rarely used)
i am trying to make more stuff, i just haven't found it or don't have the mats for it yet (farming for them)

[zenith knoll]

there

[zenith knoll]

yeah so your HP is very low, there's the problem

[untold ravine]

it did feel as such
how do i even raise it
going by the hp disparity, it can't just be ranking up the pact
unless it really does make that much difference

[smoky crater]

stability/stagger system is getting changed according to Steve

[untold ravine]

for the defence i just assume i don't have the armour for it yet

[zenith knoll]

every pact has a passive you can invest in that massively increases your hp, try that

[lament seal]

Everbound at the end of the second path from the top

[zenith knoll]

also you earn +1 virtue point per "mastery rank", which increases your hp by 10 when used

[smoky crater]

you can increase your defence stats with Totems that you add on to your weapons aswell

[untold ravine]

ah ok yea, i was slowly working towards that, just don't have the points yet
Cool cool, good to know

[white igloo]

...Then I got no clue what I'm missing for 48 Courage

[untold ravine]

oh?
i guess i just haven't found those totems yet, but that's good to know

[smoky crater]

you get them by charming the animals

[zenith knoll]

what's your mastery rank

[lament seal]

did you pick a Grace dialogue option at some point?

[white igloo]

Uh 15

[zenith knoll]

yep that's what's missing

[white igloo]

I guess

[zenith knoll]

i'm mr17

you're missing 2 virtue points

[white igloo]

ah ok

[untold ravine]

who

[white igloo]

I really should write down which bonuses I get for each virtue from quests

[lament seal]

Bhaltair, but they have the answer from Belgo already

[untold ravine]

ah ok fair

[zenith knoll]

but wait, if you make it to mr17 then you could get 49 courage

I'M missing something

[smoky crater]

[drifting cape]

i went full grace dialogue just you guys wait its gonna be op next patch

[untold ravine]

ok thank y'all for the tips, i'll do some more testing (and actual progression) later, got some things to do for now

[zenith knoll]

the silent rose was my starting enclave, i'm a true gracechad

[winter geode]

Oh shit is that why I had extra grace

weird

[lament seal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[white igloo]

I really hope that if DE adds a Quest Codex in the Nightfold, they show what Virtue you chose for that quest

or something along those lines

[lament seal]

true giga grace chad

[velvet island]

The absolute max courage is 50, with +6 from tal, + 21 from points, +2 from orengall & bromius, +19 from wyld tethren n its arts as well as the 2 base points you always have

[halcyon thicket]

@vagrant kayak ^

[velvet island]

<@&1154466146741932193>

thanks

[zenith knoll]

i see

[velvet island]

iirc last preludes was a bit higher because of the motes effects still working

[ornate hatch]

Why can enemies go out of the circle and i cant ?? like i dont mind the trap just dont let the healer back up outside where i cant reach him ?????????

[velvet island]

You can always yeet your weapon

[ornate hatch]

sure and then how od i deal with the other 12 fellows right on me stagering me to death

[velvet island]

You throw while jumping away from the other enemies, at least that what i used to do early game

Idk if it's possible on controller camera might be too slow

[inland pivot]

where should in post if im experiencing a bug?

[halcyon thicket]

#1438224825113120788

[smoky crater]

aight. Mora's hands 3rd is nuts with high grace

and that chest was truly utilized as it was meant to be

[halcyon thicket]

Lool

[drifting cape]

i haaate finding intel

[winter geode]

I hate finding it too, but when you can sneak up to a guy and take it off his back it's a great feeling lol

[smoky crater]

i don't really have any issues with it honestly

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah it's definitely a nuisance to find sometimes

[tired sail]

Could make it a little easier to find in certain areas. Maybe turn it into a messenger birb and add audio cues?

[smoky crater]

FINALLY

took waaaay too long to get that second fragment

[full hearth]

🥳

[drifting cape]

im sitting at 1/2 fragments for all 3 of them

[peak blade]

Do you not get anything from winning Regatta?

[tired sail]

Coupons for avakot's shop Nothing.

[peak blade]

Boo hiss

I've been busting my sproutlings over regatta for it to be nothing 💀

[smoky crater]

think i got hooked on this game

[finite stone]

I so hope soulframe gets something like kim someday

[lament seal]

I'm a bit burnt out on KIM after the last few major updates lol

[finite stone]

There is a lot of it, I've stopped doing the 1999 ones and just doing the cathedral ones rn because I find them more interesting

even though I do want to know about the 1999 part 2 characters eventually it's just a lot hahah

[lament seal]

I managed to ||get Anathema with Roathe|| and decided that was enough WF for a bit :^)

[finite stone]

oh rip 😔

[empty venture]

It could be because you simply didn’t kill him enough a Discentia.

My status says that I can date Roathe if I want but I am at Anathema with him.

Because I am not up to redo his fights whatever the amount is needed to progress.

[lament seal]

I already know what the issue is and how to resolve it, I am simply not interested in WF for a while after managing that feat

[errant wasp]

what pact should i choose guys

[finite stone]

whichever you like, it's not a permanent choice and you can get all gear in the game eventually

[errant wasp]

oh cool ima try mage

[rugged ether]

True DE style

[drifting cape]

they are all good

there are some sirin haters but they jealous

[honest rampart]

how long is wevetwood sap cool down reswpawn?

[open sail]

Just relog lol

[honest rampart]

ty

[uncut sapphire]

Oh wrong thing nvm

[errant wasp]

how do i do this

[finite stone]

The tutorial will walk you through what to do: https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Last_Pensive

[hasty blade]

whats the best place to find these the wiki doesnt say

[finite stone]

the wiki does say

if you mean what is the best place to find will-o-wings, they're all across midrath. anywhere that isn't corrupted, basically

[hasty blade]

oh i see

so just run arounfd aimlessly till i find them?

[finite stone]

pretty much! Though best to group it with other content. Hunt down totems, or farm agari, or do sparrow's tales, and just keep an eye out for the will-o-wings as you do that stuff

[lament seal]

if you do find a group of them, try sneaking up on the one that's a bit further out of the ground for an extra ingredient

[blissful wind]

Guys a friend of mine has created the character but is not of desidered gender. Is there any way to change this?

[full hearth]

Not currently

[drifting cape]

for now, iirc no

i also had no idea what it meant by choose your frame

i was like uhhh nude or not nude? nude ig

[blissful wind]

is just what happened to my friend, also the transaltion in my main language was not clear, I'm ita. OK guys so I guess that now he will need another account and another code. Tyvm

[lament seal]

if you have the time, be sure to post about it in #1438224662344761345 as well so DE knows it's unclear in your language

[undone minnow]

If they send a ticket to DE support they can reset your friends account

support.soulframe.com

[drifting cape]

i mean even in english i dont think its any more clear

[finite stone]

I think it was pretty clear personally? You can see the whole body type changing when you change the gender

and probably the only benefit of them making the ode give their prisoners underwear is that you can now see the female option getting a bra too

[vagrant kayak]

He does not need another account, the update happening this month or early next month will add more customization and the ability to change body type

[drifting cape]

it just didn't seem like such a consequential pick. "choose your frame" means nothing, so i kind of just skimmed past it

[open sail]

are a lot of the "locations" missing text at orlick? i think i uncovered every mote worth (all flags are filled in).

[vagrant kayak]

Yes most locations just have ??? as placeholder lore

[drifting cape]

mind you i'd have no issue with it if we could switch, which i'm sure will be possible so i'm not upset (i'm also ok with being whatever)

[vagrant kayak]

WIP, not a bug

[open sail]

ok thanks Howl!

[sly escarp]

Hopefully the char customization changes adds a way to pick your body type.

Be nice to have

[white igloo]

I mostly want to change my hair or face paint

[finite stone]

those are already confirmed dw! I think it's just the gender that we haven't technically seen any confirmation on timeline for

(we know it's confirmed in general, just not whether it's part of this late Jan / early Feb customisation update)

[white igloo]

yey

[boreal iris]

Are there playable quests in the game yet¿

[barren escarp]

need the map for wevetwood sap plz

[finite stone]

Yep! There's 10 fables, and they're all listed on https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables

[finite stone]

It's on the sap page here https://wiki.avakot.org/Wevetwood_Sap

[barren escarp]

thank you

[boreal iris]

Perfect! Looking into that fs

[zenith knoll]

arguably the best use of your moonsteel threads

[drifting cape]

classic dressing up excal umbra/prime as default excal

[barren escarp]

wtf??

a squawker and cardinal hybrid

[peak blade]

A sqwardinal

[hollow mortar]

Do some weapons max out level at 28 or 29?

[frigid spoke]

all at 30

[tough acorn]

There’s maps!!! Thank you!!

[lament seal]

oh my god I deallocated all my mastery virtues and unequipped my talisman to test something and never put either back on, no wonder I was struggling

[hasty blade]

wky does leveling take so ungodly long

is there some method idk about to speed it up?

[regal bloom]

Hello, does anyone know if codes are still being sent out every Wednesday or whatever it was?

[lament seal]

I believe they were paused over the holidays, but they have resumed by now, yes

[regal bloom]

Awesome. Still by email I assume?

[lament seal]

yeah

[regal bloom]

cool, ty

[unkempt sphinx]

Run arena(endless) in Glades

[drifting cape]

hey where can i find feybault joineries? i have 0 of them

ah crypt and stag? Is that it? rough

[mortal thistle]

How do I collect the little gold glowing orbs? I looked it up and google said soul mode but ive tried every button it says to activate wtv that is and looked through the settings like 4 times and saw nothing with the term so im lost

[drifting cape]

yeah, soul vision and attack

[mortal thistle]

idk how to use that though

[drifting cape]

default keybind is q

[mortal thistle]

is that jut the thing where you tap Q and it pings?

[drifting cape]

no, you hold it

[frigid spoke]

q and left click

[mortal thistle]

Oh that didn't do anything for me, i'll try it again tho