gameplay-discussion

[onyx fable]

As far as I can see lvl 2 attunement weapons stop scaling past 25 virtue stats, but it’s weird because lvl 1 attunement takes around 30, so I guess the attunement equals how fast they reach max potential damage

Does anyone know exactly how it works?

[lament seal]

Yup: https://wiki.avakot.org/Weapons#Attunement

[finite stone]

Yes, it's explained on the wiki as linked above.

Regardless of the Tier, a weapon can only gain bonus damage from Attunement equal to its base damage (i.e. a weapon dealing 50 damage can only gain 50 bonus damage from Attunement).

[smoky crater]

or https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1445485325248889012

[finite stone]

I don't think that thread mentions the 50 damage (for 50 base as example) limit does it?

[restive ridge]

What do you call that flying ship event, had one spawn & it was storming with waves of enemies and a boss

[smoky crater]

[onyx fable]

Ahh, I see now, thank you thank you 🙏🏻

[smoky crater]

honestly, i haven't looked at the thread in the slightest i just know it exists

[lament seal]

Collector, or Mada since she's the one who speaks to you during the event

[novel fable]

are there not like map pings? this shewolf location is supposed to be southeast of oro's well. But where the heck is that at lmfao.

Only land I can see is the tower

like a main point

[restive ridge]

Thanks!

[finite stone]

It's called 'Hark, the Collector'. It has its own section on https://wiki.avakot.org/Collector

(everyone refers to it as Collector by shorthand, since it's the only collector-related content in the game so far)

[onyx fable]

The black tower in the top left of the map, go straight down and you’ll see enemy camps with a red lamp

[prisma echo]

Question - to get the max combat arts points for magic do I have to rank up multiple different types of magic weapons to max it out?

[finite stone]

You can't achieve max combat arts in magick yet, but you can get 5 x number of weapons

Long and Short blades are the only maxable arts rn

[lament seal]

we out here blademaxxing

[onyx fable]

You can get about 25 ish points in magick currently

[silver dagger]

do weapons scale better with courage than with the other skills, same as with arcanics?

[onyx fable]

Need about 31 - 32 to max skill trees

[finite stone]

no, weapons scale with what they're attuned to

and arcanics scale in specific ways based on that arcanic, each one is mentioned on its page, but in general it's courage strength, spirit duration, grace range

[prisma echo]

But not higher than what their max attunement? So the alder is 27 so we should not put more than 27 in spirit?

[finite stone]

that's right, weapons scale up to their attune cap

[prisma echo]

So half spirit and half courage would be good?

[onyx fable]

Wish they had a softcap like souls game

[finite stone]

afaik there's something funny with throws that people have been testing? but I've never played around with it myself, the visible scaling (on the UI) stops at the cap

[zenith knoll]

(coughing up blood) three more to go

[silver dagger]

i'm currently running the royal tines, i love their moveset, but they seem to fall off on higher level enemies, and can't get through their armor when rune is not active

[finite stone]

in general you just want to do what it says on https://wiki.avakot.org/Attunement

the optimal strategy is to spend Virtue points until reaching the weapon's Attune Cap, then allocate remaining points to improve Pact Arcanics.

[lament seal]

doesn't the wiki itself say the virtue cap is higher for throws and perfect throws?

[finite stone]

so if you're using the Alder you'd have 27 spirit, then do whatever benefits your pact

[prisma echo]

My pact has all three 😄

[finite stone]

might be somewhere, like I say it's not me who's been testing that stuff so I haven't played around with throw damage beyond the cap myself yet

[halcyon thicket]

There is no known cap for throws and perfect throws

[onyx fable]

Courage, put whatever you need in attunement and the rest in courage

Unga Bunga all the way

[lament seal]

well each weapon's infobox has a table with the different attune caps on different attacks which is why I ask

e.g. this from Gath's page

[finite stone]

I think they do yeah, not all weapons have that yet (check newer ones like https://wiki.avakot.org/Rostrum), but again it's different people so you could ask in the wiki discord if you want more info about those maybe 🤷‍♂️

[lament seal]

gotcha

[turbid summit]

where do I talk to fenn jotar to join the kith of kings? I built the medallion of mora

[dry shore]

what does parry stability cost mean?

[idle owl]

Stat wise they are stronger too right?

[smoky crater]

the enclave entrance is just south of College of Pensives on the west side of the map in a rock wall

[smoky crater]

assuming you're talking about the - parry stability cost joinery, it lowers the amount your stagger meter goes up by when you block attacks.

[tired sail]

For primary daggers/short swords, with all stats at 10, the weapons with 2* scaling have a base damage of 76-78 (dual swords do attack twice per swing which can make smite more likely, as well as the extra damage from the second hit)

Numbers are messier once you start dealing with attunement caps, but I think the dual daggers deal more per button press than single daggers. The single daggers also have issues with animations missing their targets on heavy attacks right now.

[dry shore]

Oh okay thanks!

[tired sail]

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There's another in envoy's gathering

[halcyon oracle]

anyone could tell me what exactly does each virtue as the game doesn't really explain it self well and im not sure if i should just invest all in one or distribute them in a specific way

[smoky crater]

in general, Courage = ability strength, Spirit = ability duration, Grace = ability range.
but each weapon also is attuned towards one of the 3 virtues and each point in said virtue will increase the weapons damage

[halcyon oracle]

ye that attunment part is not that hard to notice by it self tbh the question now is should i focus on just one virtue or invest a bit in something like courage/spirit for strength and duration

[zenith gale]

do thawtide hunters keep levels if i exit game?

[tired sail]

yes

[livid thistle]

NOOOOO, THE FOUNDURY IN SOUL FRAME D;

[halcyon oracle]

?

[livid thistle]

Tuvalkane

[halcyon oracle]

huh ?

[crude ermine]

I love cogah. waited 2 hours for a potion and then Gruul disappears ...FML

[vivid cliff]

yet another mendicant kill, yet again no rune... must be 11x now? so motivating....

[gusty wraith]

hii, could someone explain why there are only a handful of agari/boss symbols on my map during cogah? i used my first potion today and noticed there were maybe 5 or 6 icons on the map, but i know there are plenty more agari than that

[vivid cliff]

wooot, I got a new face! much more handsome...

[tired sail]

Dungeon bosses aren't marked, and sieges are not marked either (though I don't think they count as agari anyways as the reward is for burning the balloons, killing the boss just allows you to progress) They do however have different rewards based on if you are in cogah or not.

[robust quest]

wtf are these new t3 bountys?

[smoky crater]

what new t3 bounties?

[gusty wraith]

ahh okay that makes sense, ty :)

[robust quest]

oh well theyre not new, but it seems like they tweaked t3 bounties so its more likely to end up in the glade or a 4 part bountyu

[turbid ridge]

I feel like a lot of it depends on if dungeons are close to you or not

[frigid spoke]

Yeah they aren't as fast anymore

[robust quest]

20 mins in the glade instead of kill 4 guys at the marker

[tired sail]

I think it depends on region, South West/North East have rarely ended in a dungeon for me.

[tranquil mica]

after freeing orengall she appeared but i didnt know to talk to her to continue the quest how do i get her to re appear

[turbid ridge]

Yeah, glade isn't that bad. The other ones with puzzles and stuff, I skip before even going in lmao

[frigid spoke]

I'm getting the kill banner from t3 NE fairly often lately.

[turbid ridge]

I abandon that shit

[robust quest]

i pretty much ionly do the NE ones

[tired sail]

SW usually ends near the ship/dock

[robust quest]

but getting heaps more sneing me to the glade, which would be ok, if there were near the start

but ive just cleared hte entire glade, solved 2 puzzles, killed like 30 mobs

[turbid ridge]

if I see undercity time to avoid lmao

[robust quest]

yeh that shouldnt be the case

shouldnt be a x10 time variable on the bounty

[turbid ridge]

i'm sure there is someone out there who likes doing T3 dungeons, I just haven't met them

[tranquil mica]

anyone done the wolf quest know how to get her to re appear

[smoky crater]

you lie

[turbid ridge]

Yeah, you're probably right

[smoky crater]

i'd guess if you relogged after she appeared the first time, just keep on killin stuff

im that guy.
i like doing dungeons

[turbid ridge]

ewww

[smoky crater]

i have 0 care about being efficient

[tranquil mica]

@smoky crater does it need to be in a certain area of map or anywhere

[smoky crater]

i don't think there's any need for it to be in a certain area but if nothing happens in some other place than near the starting area, i'd say try sticking to the starting area then

[robust quest]

if the reward was there theyd be fine

[turbid ridge]

the reward is the friends you make along the way, I guess lol

[robust quest]

lol

[smoky crater]

the only dungeon tale that might take like... noticeably longer is only the one where you need to kill everything in the undercity

[tired sail]

I do hate how long it takes me to get through the rotating tower

[robust quest]

find the relic?

[mild furnace]

does soulframe work on linux

[turbid ridge]

yeah lmao

[robust quest]

yeh haha

again, wouldnt be a problem if you got more

[smoky crater]

not officially supported but there are ways to make it work yes.

[smoky crater]

that doesn't really take that long at all

[turbid ridge]

1 moranite

[tired sail]

There are a few guides in #1438224932323721296 , not sure if there is a best one to follow for getting it running on linux.

[robust quest]

compared to the others its heaps longer

[smoky crater]

not imo or in my experience 👀

[robust quest]

even if you just sprinted straight through the run imeditatly found it, the run didstnace alone makes it heaps longer

[smoky crater]

you're talkin about like... a minute max

99% of the time not even that

[robust quest]

yeh we are tlaking about different bountys

[smoky crater]

no we're talkin about the same one

[robust quest]

i just had to kill atleast 30 mobs, do 2 puzzles

show me footage of you clearing the glade in 1 min....

[tired sail]

Dungeons really are not that bad to clear ignoring my ability to navigate a certain tile.

[smoky crater]

you don't need to kill 30 mobs or do 2 puzzles for any stage... 👀

[robust quest]

ok mate

[smoky crater]

?

[robust quest]

liek i said

even if you just ran straight past everything, and there wasnt puzzles, it would still tkae waaaay longer

not sure how youre getting to the end in 1 minute but ok

but good for you

[smoky crater]

im talkin about running to the objective in a minute absolute max

[fallen gyro]

Which t3?

[smoky crater]

....any?

[robust quest]

no

[smoky crater]

yes?

[fallen gyro]

You can do the banneret in a minute but not destroy the moaners

[robust quest]

im tlaking specificaly about the t3s that send you to the glade, vs the ones that dont

[fallen gyro]

The moaners one usually requires you to get 80% through the dungeon before it starts counting the objective

[smoky crater]

i said run to the objective in a minute, i didn't mention completing it and/or running to the exit ._.

[smoky crater]

yes i know that

[robust quest]

and specificaly the one where you look for the relic

[smoky crater]

there's a glades one for finding the relic???

literally never seen one

[robust quest]

yeh and it takes sooooo long

[tired sail]

I've only seen slay a banneret and destroy oden moaners in the glades

[smoky crater]

there's a relic one in Dermak yes, but not in glades

[robust quest]

sorry thats what i meant bro

[smoky crater]

bruh

even the dermak one doesn't take signficantly longer ._.

[robust quest]

holy shit whatever bro

agree to disagree

[smoky crater]

aight sure

[robust quest]

guess we cant all be as pro as you

[tired sail]

I also have trouble trying to get a T3 to end in a dungeon recently. Like less than 1/5 have their final stage there, and that is deliberately trying to start T3 tales in areas which normally have dungeons as part of their objectives.

[smoky crater]

bruh x2 i guess

[frigid spoke]

lol

[fringe gulch]

How do I get a key to play

[tired sail]

#envoy-gathering message

[smoky crater]

check the top pinned message in #envoy-gathering

[fringe gulch]

Thank yall

[umbral berry]

what pact do i choose theyre all so cool lmao

[oblique crow]

can we level up all 3 syndicates at the same time?

[frigid spoke]

no

[oblique crow]

oh ok

what if I rank up 1 to max and then rank up another to max?

[full hearth]

You can rank them all up but one at a time

[oblique crow]

ah okay

[frigid spoke]

You can do that. All three to 5

[oblique crow]

ty

[full hearth]

Only one can be "active" at a time

[oblique crow]

tho where are the other 2, I've been everywhere on the map lol

[frigid spoke]

Can switch once a week if you make the medallions

[oblique crow]

aha

[olive patio]

is that option to reset your save available, and stupid question; can you reset the quest and story and stuff but also keep your items?

just don't wanna go farm out the stuff I already have

[frigid spoke]

No way to reset

[olive patio]

oh ok all goode

[onyx fable]

It really is a shame when people don’t want to share the endless arena

[verbal herald]

i think i found endless once, but it was only the ghost tree things you have to smite pull the souls to finish, i dont like fighting those

[oblique crow]

its always those enemies tho

[frigid spoke]

It's not endless anymore. Ok exp but better off just doing faction in the NE really but play your way that's fun.

[verbal herald]

it wont ever spawn sinecure enemies?

[frigid spoke]

no

[verbal herald]

thats disappointing tbh

[elder roost]

/Can you perm ruin a build

Starting off closing a pact

[oblique crow]

if I did a boss and mine would respawn in 3h but someone else with the boss invites me, can I get the rewards again?

[lethal halo]

Bosses, except for Mendicant King (known bug), are now on a 30 minute respawn.

[worthy star]

considering that I already have the entire Thawtide armor set, I'm guessing that crafting more of them is pointless

[lethal halo]

Shouldn't be able to. Anything you have already crafted that doesn't take up a slot (Weapon/Pact) is removed from the forge list.

[oblique crow]

Can we still get to the island somehow?

[tired sail]

Find where they forgot to replace the invisible wall

Or be the next person to find a way to clip through objects

[lethal halo]

~15 minute run from map hole somewhere in NE corner of main map.
There are guides, do a search.

[oblique crow]

every tutorial I found didn't work

[frigid spoke]

It'll get unlocked eventually.

[lethal halo]

It was said/suggested that boats are incoming so we might get a map expansion that covers that isle or replaces it completely.
...or maybe they will be in bubble adventures and not move us from place to place.

[fallen gyro]

The spot in the north east got patched

There's another one where the big river meets the ocean along the east coast. You just walk out from the river.

[oblique crow]

okk ty

[fallen gyro]

Np. When you get out of bounds walk directly east until you're able to sprint again, then hug the corner of the map up and then west.

[onyx fable]

If we un equip the secondary weapon, does the primary lvl up faster like Warframe?

[mental stratus]

If they going to use temporal anti aliasing i wish theyd at least get fsr3 so it would stop all the environmental ghosting when you standing still. Other than that the environmet is freaking GOREGEOUS!

[verbal herald]

i finally got enough pearls to forge a new pact, is Bromius or Orengall better?

[onyx fable]

Both are decent, orengall is a bit better

[mystic breach]

I feel your pain about the pearls.

[onyx fable]

Orengall is a better Sirin

[verbal herald]

glad im not the only one that has ghosting issues from time to time

[mental stratus]

Well i narrowed ot down to its everytime i stand still. The bushes and foliage leave after images. The second i start runing in circles it stops completely. But aparently fsr 3 or 4 would fix that for taa. Or allow us to lower to fsx if we are running fsr2

[verbal herald]

i dont fully know what that means but im sure they'll fix it down the line

[lapis lion]

Tried to pull a fork thingy out of one of them trees while a siege sequence was loading and it completely froze my character in the game while the rest of the game played on. Had to relog. Maybe a one-time glitch, but thought I'd mention it.

[verbal herald]

typing "/unstuck" in chat has been a lifesaver for me a couple times

[dapper rain]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[dapper rain]

' XP distribution upon defeating an enemy has been reworked
.XP is now evenly split between Pacts and the drawn weapon (or last equipped if unarmed). '

how it applies to things out of combat like destroying moaners and finishing tales xp im not sure

[verbal herald]

my sidearm still gets XP from something even though i dont use it in combat

[dusky iris]

are these new cogah talismans bis?

[pallid wasp]

Is there like a tutorial? im brand new and i swear nothing was explained haha

[raven basin]

maybe try checking this out https://wiki.avakot.org/Rise,_Envoy (this should be the tutorial quest)

[pallid wasp]

i didnt pull the sword. thanks haha

[dusky iris]

is there a way to check if youve reached your daily currency cap for your faction? Ive noticed it just stops earning at some point

[full hearth]

No. There isn't.

The daily standing cap is 16000.

There are two situations where the progress halts

1. You've reached the standing cap for the day

2. You've reached the amount required to advance to the next rank in the Enclave.

[dusky iris]

thanks

[full hearth]

Daily reset is at 00:00UTC

[dusky iris]

that is helpful thanks

[young hazel]

Apart from the loot, what does sieges give?

[languid wagon]

Has anyone reforge the paragon with the joinery blessed by mora to attune it to courage does it make all the slots attuine to courage?

[daring jacinth]

Runes? Not sure if you're counting those as loot though.

[young hazel]

The Ode infamy isnt a ”reputation grind” right?

[runic dagger]

Is there a way to level up Verminia? Aside from leveling more than one faction to unlock the dyes?

[somber warren]

helping my brother with the game, he is new. trying to help him start the Orengall quest but can't remember where it starts can someone give me the location please?

[dry shore]

If I reset a weapons level by changing its attunement does re leveling it add to my mastery rank?

[runic dagger]

No only get mastery rank on the first time you max out a weapon.

[dry shore]

good to know

[short sapphire]

anyone seen this bug yet?

[pallid wasp]

how do i turn fragments into weapons?

[brazen elk]

anyone else crash about 5 minutes ago?

[short sapphire]

nah not me

[fair panther]

does gath drops only from stag? or does it drop from other sources as well?

[tired sail]

Vadagar stag only

[oak cosmos]

anyone having trouble finding motes that are not there

[brittle nacelle]

turn off everything volumatric in graphics settings, I assume it's tied to that

[livid thistle]

my game broke

the door wont open

[brittle nacelle]

are you inside the dungeon?

if you're in the overworld this could just be an exit

[wet portal]

for some reason running and jumping and pressing my use key works to fix that sometimes

[oak cosmos]

whats your name

ill friend you and you will tp on my location

[tired sail]

If they're standing inside a loading zone, they could be at the wrong door.

Nevermind, the two way loading zones do not have that moss covered rock on either side.

[short sapphire]

how do i use the other potions

or are they just fragments

[tired sail]

Did you end up double backing through an exit like this?

You can try typing /unstuck, joining someone else's game or relogging if that's what happened.

[livid thistle]

Yeah I had to relog

[crude ermine]

any specific neethans that spawn gourdo?

[prisma echo]

What gives with game today? I've been trying to get in past 20 mins. Askes for password. Tells me I need a code from email. This time email never arrives.

[crude ermine]

game is frustrating AF

cant get a smite to save my life from spides. then when I get one I cant pull it

lol

[wary kestrel]

Is there a catalogue of all totems?

[crystal garden]

Avakot buddy

[autumn musk]

One near the NE, lake usually

[crude ermine]

thankyou

i almost die in cogah because I get no smites AND YET
idk if anyone have enemies spam grenades or big explosions

awesome booses respawn in cogah

whats more damage?
Cogah Lorcaan
+10 attack
2 courage

Wylding hilt
+3 courage

not sure how things scale

[halcyon thicket]

Cogah lorcaan attack bonus doesn't work

Only virtue, and take wylding hilt

[crude ermine]

just got spllitbolt.
treefeller last one ig

[autumn musk]

hes by himself 💔

[brittle nacelle]

leveling paradise, how did you get such high level enemies

[celest sorrel]

is there a fast travel or mount yet?

[plush bolt]

If you've done the arbear quest, then go to Verminia in your Nightfold. To the left up her stairs, go to the potted plant and interact with the Wevetseed. Congrats, you've unlocked fast travel.

[celest sorrel]

ah ok, doing the bear quest now

[crude ermine]

wtf the game is made to kill you when you stay too long in cogah i guess. doing dungeon and my attack keys stop working then a guy spams three attacks stagger locking insta killing me

bad luck LOL

[livid thistle]

hey guys i was tryna kill the waste bear, but i died now it wont let me get back to the bear... everything is blocked off

[plush bolt]

You have to relog, it's a glitch. Unfortunate, but it happened to me too. Could only get it to work after I relogged.

[livid thistle]

[strong glen]

I get this awful static noise every time I use a magik is this a known issue and if so anyway to stop it?

[plush bolt]

Could it be peaking your headphones?

[crude ermine]

with the faction changes. is tethrin cheaper at his own faction vendor?
rather than 12k at others

[strong glen]

I don't know i've tried turning it down but no idea what it's supposed to sound like

[plush bolt]

Verify your game files maybe? You can do that through the game launcher before clicking enter,

[celest sorrel]

is the only way to get the bear weapons and armor from the boss that spawns at the tree?

[lone gorge]

Hi^^ When is the next Twitch drop?

[smoky crater]

Yes

[unique mulch]

guys what's the time for the mendicant king to respawn?

[smoky crater]

There'll be an announcement in #soulframe-news when they announce the next one

[smoky crater]

Mendicant king's 3h along with sieges

[celest sorrel]

is there a tierlist for weapons for prelude 12? i wanna use flyblades but im not sure which one i should use, since my main weaqpon will be a greatsword

[smoky crater]

Think excluding founders stuff Skilter is still the best flyblade

But also no i dont think's a "tierlist" really

[celest sorrel]

alrighty, tyty

is it redundant to go for a greatsword and short sword combo?

[brittle nacelle]

try it out, only matters whether you find it fun or not

[dreamy canyon]

does Everflame set bosses on fire?

[celest sorrel]

thats fair

[violet gale]

I got kith of kings to max rank and have oscelda and sirin only available for purchase at 12k each.

[brittle nacelle]

All the melee runes should set the bosses on fire, don't think that was changed in the hotfixes since I last used it
It doesn't stun lock them anymore tho

[crude ermine]

i swear cogah is rigged to kil you LOL

[abstract sentinel]

everything is

[crude ermine]

cleared a camp and I got one pull smite and it didnt give my ability then I never got a single smite after .

[red kraken]

Has anyone elses bookshelf just become more laggy over time between menus? Everything I click or upgrade it hangs up for 1 or 2 seconds.

[prisma echo]

Yes. Been like this for me all morning. Changed since, yesterday.

[red kraken]

Mines been getting worse day by day it feels like. Almost wondering if it has to do with increasing inventory

[crude ermine]

yes

lags when I try selecting combat arts and such

[red kraken]

Okay, at least its not just me 😅

[crude ermine]

I hope DE upgrade to FSR 3.1.5 at some point

[smoky crater]

Steve has mentioned he's interested in the newer FSR and DLSS versions but they're not priorities

[abstract sentinel]

what rune is it talking about?

[halcyon thicket]

the ones you install on your weapons

[abstract sentinel]

does it have a cooldown? they turn on with a pull smite, and then you can't theoretically pull smite around the clock for non-stop rune activation?

[autumn musk]

oh shit i cant check anymore 💀

[halcyon thicket]

cause of ur magick weapon

right, esthelle is 90

[autumn musk]

ye thats lvl176

[halcyon thicket]

you don't need to smite to refresh rune duration, only life steal

[halcyon thicket]

respect the dedication

always some stupid shit happening to me breaking my run

[abstract sentinel]

oh I got it, thanks

[unkempt sphinx]

Looks like you’re playing Skyrim base edition on low poly mode

[autumn musk]

I have everything on low

[autumn musk]

i dced at 150 like twice alr

[halcyon thicket]

😭

i gave up

plus i reached my goal of 1.5m dracs

nothing else to do

[autumn musk]

skip wazzard and archer ngl

those mfs keep doing shit to my run

[worldly pike]

Teleporting enemies+Courage mechanic just seems like an unfortunate oversight

[smoky crater]

hmmm ok ye that's interesting.
was doin 6 damage to the slugs with my spurns at first, then after they got lit on fire by mora's hands passive, that damage went to 12 👀
and no they weren't like in the "vulnerable" state

[halcyon thicket]

so half armor

[autumn musk]

could be fire gaze stack

[smoky crater]

no it was not

[halcyon thicket]

i think it's just warframe code

[smoky crater]

the fire damage tics themselves were doing 23

[halcyon thicket]

fire just halves armor

[smoky crater]

ye

[halcyon thicket]

same for warframes

[autumn musk]

whats reducing it tho

heat ? rofl

[smoky crater]

them being on fire yes

[halcyon thicket]

yeah heat proc

[autumn musk]

😭

[smoky crater]

and now it makes sense as to why the fire runes are as strong as they are 👀

[autumn musk]

have you tried arcanic xata bubble

i wanted to test if it inherit hs multi from quicksilver

but itd be ass to check 😂

[halcyon thicket]

i've seen that, but what exactly causes it, the void bubble

[smoky crater]

or maybe it's not quite as straight forward as halving the armor

hol on lemme actually check my totems first

[autumn musk]

if its like warframe heat then itll be interesting

[smoky crater]

ok yeah i don't have any armor reducing totems.
so
i was just doing 42 damage to a heavy mace enemy and after the heatproc i was doing 74

[unkempt sphinx]

Tech question. Has anyone been able to override DLSS version? Want to try the new DLSS 4.5

[autumn musk]

but real heat is only from 2 and 3 right

1 is fake

[smoky crater]

now 41, and after fire, 72

[halcyon thicket]

which enemy

[smoky crater]

the heavy mace

[halcyon thicket]

weapon? light attack damage number?

[smoky crater]

slugs were straight double the damage tho after fire so is it like their armor is just set to some % and that just gets halved?

thrice spurns, light throws yes

[halcyon thicket]

109?

[smoky crater]

nah im at 83 light dmg for them

[halcyon thicket]

no i mean on paper

[smoky crater]

correction 76

[halcyon thicket]

oh ok

[dapper rain]

is cloudquell + faction potion and pallete enough to get vermina from bond rank 1-2 or does need another factions potion?

[halcyon thicket]

i've seen people say couldquell doesn't increase her bond

[dapper rain]

i ranked before thjey shoved into factions so i dunno.

[smoky crater]

anyway yeah fire does reduce armor at the very least in some capacity because again i got enemies that had the grey healthbar turn vulnerable after they were on fire, and after the fire went out, they went back to grey

[autumn musk]

cool

is everflame and friends real heat

[smoky crater]

i can check real quick

[patent oar]

Anyone else having issues pulling up the chat?

[smoky crater]

or not... kinda hard to do ngl ._.

[autumn musk]

😂

[autumn musk]

ur bugged, relog or talk to avakot

[smoky crater]

was trying to test it on a banneret but either the banneret got hit by mora's stare as collateral damage or enemies didn't want to get procced by smite and then i ran out of enemies ._.

[autumn musk]

oh dont bannaret

theyre weird with flame/heat

[smoky crater]

wym

[autumn musk]

iirc resistant to heat or something

i forgot where i read this

[smoky crater]

not to the armor reduction atleast because mora's stare reduced their armor justfine 👀

magic

[halcyon thicket]

ODE

Just like the thawtide hunters

emptiness behind their mask

[autumn musk]

[smoky crater]

oh come one. and now even level 40's somehow aren't high enough level to turn their healthbars into grey with like.. 70 light damage

[halcyon thicket]

that's good

[smoky crater]

do sinecure in dungeons have like... increased armor or something?

i got the grey healthbars down there with like lvl 32-35 ish with like 80 light damage

[halcyon thicket]

i know in cogah they do

[smoky crater]

ye i ain't in cogah

[halcyon thicket]

hm interesting

[smoky crater]

guess back to dermak i go

this is pain ._.

[autumn musk]

technicaly i could check but

id die from 1 attack 😭

[smoky crater]

nah i finally decided to switch pacts and throw damage to as low as i could with my weps

[opaque fractal]

Ok, so suppose I’m currently in Silent Rose at rank 5, with 30k rep in surplus, then I change to Kith or Alca.

If at a later date, I change back to Silent Rose, will that 30k surplus rep still be there?

[smoky crater]

yes

[opaque fractal]

Guess I’ll max out surplus before changing then

[smoky crater]

iunno do what you will with what you might figure out from this clip

it kinda seems like the game just takes a moment to realize what light attack damage number you're at...
like the healthbar turning from red to grey is delayed compared to when i switch weapons but..

[autumn musk]

Ig it is real

[halcyon thicket]

also i dont see any damage numbers once u attack at 0:12

[smoky crater]

idk im getting confused now

[halcyon thicket]

just focus on one enemy

[smoky crater]

because now it seemed like the enemies next to the one i smote? smited? had their armor lowered too

no fire whatsoever

[halcyon thicket]

i like to use the first banneret at fort kearnhold that has a healer

to test stuff on

[autumn musk]

the splash damage from initial target ?

[smoky crater]

ok. that's better.

[halcyon thicket]

so what's the displayed damage number on ur weapon

[smoky crater]

uno momento

[halcyon thicket]

claro

[smoky crater]

on my precklies 56, on my royal tines 75

[autumn musk]

ngehh

fake heat

[halcyon thicket]

do you have Voided perk @smoky crater

[smoky crater]

mmmmm probably?

very likely

[halcyon thicket]

it reduces armor on smite correct

[smoky crater]

mmmmmmm gotta try without later

gtg for a bit

[autumn musk]

err aint it smite dmg

[smoky crater]

ye i got 1 point in voided

gonna try later without

[halcyon thicket]

ah yeah it only deals more damage on smite mb

[autumn musk]

Poison dart from these guys scales 💀

[halcyon thicket]

no way

[autumn musk]

i almost died

[halcyon thicket]

how much is it doing per dot

[autumn musk]

can outheal with smite heal

like 25% per tick

[halcyon thicket]

bahaha

[autumn musk]

at lvl 190

[halcyon thicket]

i was dodging them like crazy when i reached that

[autumn musk]

here

thats 1 tick 😭

[halcyon thicket]

yikes

[autumn musk]

i gotta turn my sound up ig

[halcyon thicket]

their throw is pretty readable

[long oyster]

Jesus, where are you finding creatures that level O.o

I've only seen as high as 50 (even in Cohag)

[autumn musk]

ye i just played with 1% sound they snuck up on me

[halcyon thicket]

im afraid some enemies will have no audio either way lol

[autumn musk]

i havent died yet

[long oyster]

wait, so, they keep going up?

[halcyon thicket]

enemy scales with each agari killed

[long oyster]

i see

[honest rampart]

if i reforge with another thing, does the current reforged changed?

can you multiple reforge? or once only

[autumn musk]

overwrite

[eternal aspen]

Sorry, where get a key?

[honest rampart]

ahhhhh

[honest rampart]

so u can only 1 reforge. got it

how come my spirit isnt max? i put all in that and i have max char

[red kraken]

youre running something like a talisman that adds to others

[thorn oasis]

#envoy-gathering message

[brittle nacelle]

you're lv17?
also your pact choice, perks and talisman will all affect how much spirit you'll have

[hoary dagger]

Virtue points are granted with your mastery rank. You can still obtain more

[red kraken]

and if you upgrade the pack to add grace or courage

[halcyon thicket]

wdym "max"?

[supple slate]

is my game bugged?
I'm trying to do this quest and it is trying to get me to kill some boss who is way higher level than me and all the mobs around him are all over leveled too

[halcyon thicket]

there is no max

[honest rampart]

isnt that lvl? bond?

[hoary dagger]

Max level for that pact, yes

[halcyon thicket]

Pact level != virtue points

[hoary dagger]

Virtue points are given from mastery rank, not pact level

[honest rampart]

ahhh

[halcyon thicket]

some of them are, as you can upgrade your pact

[honest rampart]

tyhow do i increase mastery rank? from weapon?

[hoary dagger]

Maxing out the level of pacts and weapons

[thorn oasis]

The Envoy level (aka 'mastery') is shown in the top left

[hoary dagger]

The more you max out, the higher your mastery is

[honest rampart]

i see. thank you!

[red kraken]

you can significantly increase that level by finding all of the location motes in the world (floating gold orbs) and unlocking the location names as an easy and sort of tedious method though

[honest rampart]

i see

ty ty

[autumn musk]

😂

[red kraken]

what dimension did you travel to?

[autumn musk]

base steelpath

[prisma echo]

Bosses around the map are 30 min or 3 hour cooldown?

[autumn musk]

except siege and mendicant king it is 30min

[halcyon thicket]

ggs

[prisma echo]

Sweet! Thank you. Trying to get Alca's Breath and Ruthos did not drop it.

[red kraken]

Nice I didn't realize it can actually just keep climbing beyond like lvl 60 or 70 lol

[nova summit]

Dont get close to the slugs :P

[smoky crater]

i mean you can 👀
just not from the front if you don't wanna get hit

[arctic hazel]

if my gathannan is mora blessed to be courage attuned, but it's still showing spirit symbols, does that mean spirit is still what raises it's damage?

or does it fully move to courage

[halcyon thicket]

fully moves to courage

[celest sorrel]

just killed a lvl 30 boss with level 1 equipment lol

[thorn oasis]

Death by a thousand papercuts! ;)

Unless you're using Tethren... Tethren can turn even a butter knife into a vorpal blade. :P

[celest sorrel]

im using the oscula wyld or however you spell it

and all i had to use was the healing spell

[smoky crater]

wyld oscelda 👀

[thorn oasis]

Good choice, Wyld Oscelda is my usual pact. :)

[red kraken]

Tethren + full courage is nutty. Im converting everything to that personally

[halcyon thicket]

Oculus

[celest sorrel]

i havent tried tethran tbh

[red kraken]

I just rejoined my Juniper couple days ago to courage and have been just solo running Cogah bosses having fun. Trying to see how much damage I can get out of one shot overall using it

[celest sorrel]

im a bit torn, (this isnt a flex mind you just, my honest opinion) i really want to use the paragon cuz i did spend a shitload of money for it, but on the other hand the purity is super cool and does more damage

[brittle nacelle]

if I kill a boss in regular mode and then pop a cogah potion will drop table be for normal boss or cogah version does anyone know?

[red kraken]

Rejoin it to courage purely. I was told yesterday it further improves it close to Purity

[smoky crater]

suggestion: use whatever you want, don't care about damage or being efficient as a priority

[halcyon thicket]

It will change which is a bug

[red kraken]

Trying to get that 4K damage hit with my Juniper bow if its possible

[celest sorrel]

thats fair

[halcyon thicket]

Close enough

[thorn oasis]

Call of the ancients + 7th charge of Fellust (with no misses on previous charges) + charged shot + headshot. ;)

[halcyon thicket]

Alca's breath rune

[thorn oasis]

That too, but requires an in-combat headshot instead of a opening headshot.

[glacial karma]

Login Fail. any fix?

[halcyon thicket]

What's that

[halcyon thicket]

Gather logs and read EE.log

[celest sorrel]

where do i go to spend seeders?

[smoky crater]

do you have access to the game?

[halcyon thicket]

The same trap u broke

[glacial karma]

what am i looking at in the EE.log?

[glacial karma]

yea i was playing

[smoky crater]

[halcyon thicket]

Look for the word Suspended

Either EE.log or Launcher.log

[brittle nacelle]

I see, was wondering about that for a couple days after someone asked while I was hosting MK shrooms

[glacial karma]

nothin in either

[halcyon thicket]

Then double check your info

[thorn oasis]

You can prepare Fellust by shooting something (like corrupted creatures) 6 times. Leaving the final, most powerful charge ready to go. Then you can stealthily position yourself and carefully aim at your intended headshot target. Just don't miss. ;)

[halcyon thicket]

But what's an opening headshot

[thorn oasis]

You start combat.. with a headshot.

[glacial karma]

missed one thing in password. i feel stupid

[halcyon thicket]

Happens

[red kraken]

So the 7th shot while in Fellust is the strongest (without missing previous 6)?

[thorn oasis]

Correct

[red kraken]

Thanks, I didn't know that was a thing 🍻

Im over here thinking the high damage was coming at random lol

[thorn oasis]

Nope, each successful hit of Fellust will make the next hit harder.

Missing will consume 2 charges and not make the next hit harder.

[somber rain]

Hey! Sorry if this is the most obvious puzzle in the world but I've been trying to figure out what to do with this platform and don't know why it's glowing like that. Tried standing on top and shooting different spots in the room. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?

[red kraken]

Trying now, and now that you explained that it makes total sense lmao

[thorn oasis]

There are many small side rooms on this tile, on the ground floor and an upper floor. Check those out. Oops, it's not the room I thought it was, sorry.

I.. don't recognise that one, heh.

[somber rain]

it's in a crypt for which I had to use a key. there's also a miniboss(?) room with blue crystals that give off a sound when I shoot them. Can't figure out what that's about

[brittle nacelle]

that's part of a community puzzle

[thorn oasis]

Ah, the Crypts.. the crystals can be hit in a specific order to unlock a puzzle room (Reward: ||Circade armour||) .. As for the boss, it needs to die at specific locations.

[brittle nacelle]

you can find the info you can't get solo in a post one of the mods made or the full solution in somehere here or on youtube

[somber rain]

I see, thanks. They seemed purely cosmetic to me since nothing happened after I kept shooting at the crystals in different order for about 50 minutes yesterday

[halcyon thicket]

Pull an enemy to step on that

[glacial karma]

Question. Does raising virtues matter or just raise the one based on the class?

Assume if I picked Grace but wanted to use swords I'd raise Courage but if I only wanted bows I'd raise grace

[brittle nacelle]

raise the virtue you weapon scales off

when it comes to pacts
courage will increase dmg
spirit duration
grace range

as a general rule at least, for specific scaling go to the avakot wiki

[glacial karma]

Gotcha thank you

[finite stone]

The puzzle's solution is written on https://wiki.avakot.org/Crypt_of_The_Circade in case you want the details (not sure if any enemy works I thought it was specifically the knight but maybe the floating ones do too?) - it also explains another couple of puzzles you'll encounter in this dungeon

[solid ibex]

What is the general consensus on Gathannan and Dewelion as far as weapons are concerned?

I know that with them both being 3* virtue weapons, that they're best in class options, similar to Marrow's Bane for long swords and Purity for greatswords.

I'm also aware of the abysmal drop rates for these weapons, with many I've chatted with in-game, saying that one or both don't exist.

My initial question is more about whether they're worth spending Arcs on at the moment vs grinding for.

[sly escarp]

Dewelion is a long sword, so it competes with Marrows Bane, and loses due to a lower scaling cap usually.

[halcyon thicket]

Dont spend arcs on them

dewelion can drop from vela and hewyl, two dungeon bosses that have a 30 min cooldown

[sly escarp]

As for Gathannon, it's considered far and away the best polearm, possibly the best weapon depending on your weapon preferences. But don't spend arcs on it, the drop rates seem maybe a bit bugged and Gath has already gone through 3 or 4 different drop sources, so the likelihood of changes that will make it more reasonable is high.

[solid ibex]

I know, it's just been brutal, even with running groups to try to farm it. If I get many more Unsula fragments, I might have to 3d print some to throw at someone cough DE cough 😫

[halcyon thicket]

lol

[solid ibex]

I finally hit rank 5 Kith of Kings, so it's just a matter of grinding tales to get Mora's Hand as my final pact. I ended up buying Ode Tempest early (only thing I've bought with Arcs, other than storage capacity and such).
The idea of grinding multiple factions to rank 5 and waiting that long to get 2 pacts right now isn't a good use of time at the moment

[halcyon thicket]

wait you couldn't choose Mora's hand as a rank up reward?

[solid ibex]

nope

[open sail]

No

[edgy sigil]

nope gotta pull yourself by your bootstraps and earn mora's hand

[halcyon thicket]

what the hell are they doing

why this change

[solid ibex]

27,500 rep babyyy 😬

[sly escarp]

That was a bug, as you couldn't pick Teth as a rank up reward for Kith and couldn't pick Ode as a rank up for the other factions

They likely fixed it when they overhauled the faction shops

[solid ibex]

offering (I got at least) was for either:

• Gildaur: Blessed by Mora
• Quicksilver: Blessed by Mora

[halcyon thicket]

seems it was a bug

still it should just be an option as grinding so much xp is more than enough time and effort spent to earn the pact as a reward

[glacial karma]

Does story progression work in coop if we're all on the same quest?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes but it can be buggy

It's recommended to finish the story fables solo

[glacial karma]

have yet to get that far but will remember

[solid ibex]

I admit part of my questioning the arcs purchase is both because of the paragon bundle and the (current) abundance of arcs I have, and because I currently lack anything to level up.

I'll get Witan when I eventually switch to Alca's Children (after getting Mora's Hand).

Otherwise only missing Dewelion, Gathannan and Rook. Polearms are fine. The Vasp-IV feels terrible to use, especially with no combat arts. The Duhk Halic was a bit better, and I didn't hate using it

Really hoping they add more shield options, and honestly anything else that's not long blade or short blade (Please DE, I already have an abundance of combat art points for those that I can't do anything with 😭)

[sly escarp]

Usually the best plan for polearms is to get Headlong and use the guaranteed knockdown on non perfect throws

Opens up high damage finishers and allows for enemy control

[halcyon thicket]

Wait that's a feature?

[sly escarp]

More like a bug

[halcyon thicket]

Right? Cause i can infinitely cc any boss

[sly escarp]

The perk that gives "increased stagger on perfect throws" instead guarantees knockdowns on non perfect throws

[arctic cedar]

Dewelion exists, I got my 3 fragments from siege but it took me a week, crafting it ATM 🥳

[red kraken]

Hooray! almost 4,500 shot

[thorn oasis]

Congratz :)

[halcyon thicket]

Pro tip mockeries have insane headshot multipliers

[red kraken]

Yeah? Ill have to see next time Im in endless

[halcyon thicket]

Cemeteries and/or thrice bound impidh

[red kraken]

Oh yeah I know you just gotta hit them they move faster than anything

[halcyon thicket]

U can get a clean shot on mockery boss

[red kraken]

mainly because they aggro on anything that moves within 3 miles and the l.ike to take 90 degree turns lol

yeah for sure

[halcyon thicket]

Erratic movement I agree

It needs to be toned down aswell

[prime dust]

will we keep everything that we collected during this "test" period when the game officially launches?

[lament seal]

That's the goal, as per the official FAQ

[prime dust]

would be nice but also could feel bad to new players to see fully geared ppl

idk whats the middle ground here but oh well

[lament seal]

that's the case for any game that accepts new players after launch

[sly escarp]

Game's not competitive or anything

There's no leaderboards

Most players will just take it at their own pace.

[halcyon thicket]

Some games wipe progress on launch

[lament seal]

yeah, and if you join Warframe now, you'll be months behind me, that doesn't inherently make it a bad game

hell launch up Age of Empires II for the first time, and you'll be behind anyone else who's played it before

[hasty zealot]

anyone know if the the extra spears from that one glaive rune smite as well? And does the damage stack? So if I go up to their face and they eat all 10 spears do they take damage from all?

[finite stone]

Doesn't really need a middle ground or anything, it's the same as any game. Now that Soulframe's essentially free to access, no one would really feel bad seeing existing players any more than a new Warframe player would

[lament seal]

there's always gonna be new players and veterans for any game that accepts new players past its initial launch, which 99.9% of games do

the only real way not to have that is to either wipe everyone's progress whenever any new player joins (like chess or checkers) or to have zero mechanical progress (like cosmetic-only upgrades for ranking up in pvp games)

[lament seal]

-# to clarify a minor point here, there's definitely some things about Warframe that are still new-player unfriendly, like the morbillion syndicates you gotta grind up with a super low standing cap per day, but even without that a new player would be far behind a veteran player

[turbid ridge]

Okay, to all the mad scientists out here. I'm looking to have equal resistance to all damage types. What are you using with armor to make this happen? I have all the armors right now.

[wraith perch]

I started playing Warframe at the beginning of December (I played Soulframe first). The amount of content was staggering, but I'm finally caught up to the Old Peace. Some aspects do feel new player unfriendly but there are also so many resources online to find information, so nothing felt unreasonably unexplainable

[livid thistle]

My bank keeps declining soulframe payments because of risk of fraud I can’t buy founders 😭

[turbid ridge]

Are you US or EU?

[livid thistle]

US

[turbid ridge]

That's odd, I've def heard or some EU folks having problems

Xsolla seems to scare some banks lol

[turbid ridge]

Banks are concerned about payment processors like Xsolla due to general digital payment risks (fraud, cyberattacks, data breaches) but specifically about Xsolla because of major lawsuits alleging CEO misuse of $120M in company funds

[livid thistle]

Damn, so what do I do?

[turbid ridge]

Call your bank and ask them if they can allow xsolla payments, or they let you push a single payment through maybe

[arctic hazel]

mendicant king set + one stagger resist and one magic resist totem

Usually does the trick for me, all stats are within 4 points of eachother

[turbid ridge]

ty ty, i'm using arbearer which is great for melee

but magicka really messes me up

[arctic hazel]

anything will work probably
just run two magic resist totems

[turbid ridge]

Will do. Thank you!

[dreamy canyon]

any way to avoid Ruthos teleporting over the wall? -.-

[halcyon thicket]

kill him fast

polearm throw into finisher attack

[slim flax]

Anyone know why i cannot go into nightfold?

Just visited the glades, walked through, did one 1 star silent rose quest and now I cannot visit my nightfold

Maybe a restart is in order

[turbid ridge]

Dang, maxing 1 gives you +15. That's crazy!

[prisma echo]

Is there a normal Sirin pact or just the Wyld Sirin? Curious if we can get 60 points like in Osc.

[arctic hazel]

There's variants of totems that have boosted effects too

I think you can get +120 in theory

because you can also get runes to double shield slots

[faint estuary]

I might start just quoting Fenn jotar I love what he says

[turbid ridge]

you won't after awhile lol

[arctic hazel]

yeah for base 3 pacts you can get 60 points in each

[unkempt sphinx]

Jump over and fight him

[prisma echo]

I only have the base Oscelda

And all three Wyld versions

[dreamy canyon]

ye but in Cogah it bugs out and thinks you're running from the fight

[lament seal]

You can get the other two base pacts from the faction shop

[prisma echo]

My turtle friend?

[lament seal]

Since you started as Oscelda, most likely it's the Alca's Children faction you're in iirc

[prisma echo]

Yes. I'm rank 2 in it now. Almost 3

[lament seal]

Check the vendor next time you're there and you should see normal Tethren and normal Sirin there somewhere

[prisma echo]

Thank you!

[lament seal]

They require rank 3 fwiw

[fresh girder]

guys, what do think about wyld tethren pact + bow with increased charge rate

[arctic hazel]

tethren + weapon is probably the best build in the game right now

I wish that was a joke

[lament seal]

Bows are in a very strong spot as well

[charred glen]

question on faction XP - does anyone know what the cap is? im stuck at 34,400 after ranking up to rank 3 and will not reward any more xp for the tales i am completing

[lament seal]

16k per day, resets at midnight UTC (7pm EST)

[finite stone]

The daily cap is written on the wiki page for https://wiki.avakot.org/Enclaves here:

[arctic hazel]

just any weapon + tethren

and you get two abilities to stack damage to about 30x

and you get to basically be immortal as long as you're killing and smiting enemies

[fresh girder]

do you know which bow might be the strongest, or at least better in terms of single target dps for bosses?

rn im a founder

so i have starling

[lament seal]

Juniper last I heard, The Starling as well if you have it

[red kraken]

I was just talking about this earlier. Juniper rejoined to courage + wild tethran. #gameplay-discussion message

[arctic hazel]

I do wonder how they're gonna handle virtues in future

right now spirit and grace need buffs

or courage needs a nerf

[uneven urchin]

Wait do the virtues do anything on their own? I assumed all they did was weapon scaling like Elden Ring stats.

[arctic hazel]

afaik no

which makes them almost completely irrelevant

you just stack whichever one gives you the most damage which is courage and be done with it

[uneven urchin]

Well no even in that case your choice of virtues kites your decision on what weapons you use

[arctic hazel]

no

[uneven urchin]

You ain’t picking up a magic staff on an all courage build are you?

[arctic hazel]

you can turn any weapon to any virtue

[prisma echo]

Is there a faster way to travel to faction? Or do we have to run across the map every time.

[uneven urchin]

Huh?

[arctic hazel]

with blessed joineries

[worldly pike]

Manually

Once you get further in the story, you unlock a fast travel but its limited use per IRL day

[uneven urchin]

Spoilery thing for if you haven’t caught up in main quests yet

||after beating Waste Bear he gives you a tree. Find it by whatever the witches name was and pick up the acorns. Use those to fast travel. You only get like three a day||

[lament seal]

if (and that's a big if) a pact ability even bothers to scale with certain virtues, each one generally does the following:
Courage increases abiliity strength
Spirit increases ability duration
Grace increases ability range

[arctic hazel]

ah good to know actually

[lament seal]

focusing on improving weapon damage is always better though

[slim flax]

What is the difference between Sirin and Wyld Sirin? Is it just like primes in warframe?

[uneven urchin]

Damage. Always always damage

[lament seal]

pretty much, Wyld gives a larger base bonus to Grace than normal Sirin

[worldly pike]

an extra 30 points to dump into the pact tree after getting both to 30

[arctic hazel]

you can level both to get double the usual amount of skill tree points

[uneven urchin]

…and there it is then. Courage supreme if that’s the case

[arctic hazel]

and yep

[worldly pike]

Not if, it is the case

When leveling weapons, its just whatever minimum you need in a virtue to use it, and the rest go into courage

Once you find a weapon you like, joinery it to courage and max out courage

[prisma echo]

I beat him. Where do I get those daily things?

[lament seal]

save up on your blessed joineries, there's gonna be a virtue rework coming soon™

[arctic hazel]

They need to make virtues do things other than scale a few abilities

Fairly sure most abilities are just completely unaffected by the stat boosts anyways

[uneven urchin]

||the place to grab em is finicky. Go to verminas lil island in the nightfold and on the edge facing the blacksmith you see the tip top branch you see the acorn dangling grab there||

||you’re looking for that tree in the giant metal pot the bear gives you if you remember that cutscene||

[prisma echo]

Thank you. I'll go there now and see.

[lament seal]

||fwiw they're every 12 hours, so essentially daily but you can get two if you log in at the right times||

[prisma echo]

... they were there the whole time? lol wtf 😄

[uneven urchin]

Tbf like I said it’s a finicky spot so it’s fair to assume that tree was only decorative

[prisma echo]

Copy. It only had two and you had to be in the proper place for any notion. Thanks for letting me know.

[fallen orchid]

So there's a vision associated with Ode Tempest??? I started I think in p7 or p8 so ode was just givn to me. Is there a way I can see the Vision still??

[prisma echo]

Even dumber question... how/where do I use them? 😄

[lament seal]

open your map and click + hold on any world tree or faction entrance

[prisma echo]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-gif-17766378259883108565

[jolly pumice]

can someone tell me in witch dungeon bow rune drops?

[prisma echo]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Enchantments

Just click on the rune in the wiki and it will tell you where to get it.

[jolly pumice]

tnx

[surreal tusk]

will there be a way to change your character in the future? Like be able to pick a different gender and all

[worthy star]

I love using the knockdown cheese to handle Agari

[dreamy canyon]

yes, pick a different gender in the future. For now, you can somewhat redesign your looks by replaying the Memories of Warsong though

[hardy flower]

Has anyone ever gotten wazzards wish to drop from the wraith? I've killed it over 30 times without a fragment drop, the only one I have is when I originally killed the wizard I think in the msq

I could be unlucky, just wanted to check

[tired sail]

It's a very low drop rate

[hardy flower]

Ok ty

[woeful star]

hey i just got my ocarina and was wondering. is there sheet music for the sdongs we play in game with our flutes?

[tired sail]

My current averages puts it at ~15% (9 Wazzard's wish to 50 Estroot). Haven't been paying attention to if those drops are mutually exclusive to the runes, but if they are then the drop rate is even lower, probably closer to 10%.

[copper thunder]

Hello! I'm having a problem, why is the game's DLSS being replaced every time I start the game? The game is based on version 3.7.20, and every time I replace it with 310.5 it reverts to the original.

[sly escarp]

They are not

They are seperate drops

[tired sail]

Ah, thanks!

[sly escarp]

If you get Erstroot you can still get the rune

[hardy flower]

Whelp im sitting at 32 Estroot and the 1 wazzards, so i think im a bit unlucky lol. Ill continue the grind, thank you again!

[gaunt falcon]

Just a general question, but I'm curious what people's opinions are on the melee animation locks? Like, if you've played a Souls-like vs never have and how that affects your opinion?

[tired sail]

Generally not too bad, since you can instantly block/parry to cancel an attack, but I dislike the end of the greatsword light combo.

[red kraken]

Only thing that really kinda bugs me is the ability animation locks. Woould rather hit for example fellust and be able to keep moving

[gaunt falcon]

It doesn't really have any weight to it, I can understand that.

[gaunt falcon]

Depends on the animation, though I think Teth should be able to move like Sirin can, even if it puts you into a walk

[tired sail]

It's more that it has a very long recovery time

[red kraken]

Actually yeah, even a walk is sufficient

[gaunt falcon]

That I'm okay with, but ig I'm used to Elden Ring recovery time. Like the GS in SF is very fast, and you can dodge out of it before you even do any of the animations anyway. BUT! I can understand this as well

[sly escarp]

You can dodge cancel out of the wind up but not usually the follow through

[gaunt falcon]

Correct! As it is with basically every attack animation

[sly escarp]

Personally advise throwing a Attack Speed squirrel on a GS to make it a bit easier to handle

[tired sail]

Ya, probably make it closer to polearm throw

[gaunt falcon]

Which is super forgiving because in ER, you're queued up on the attack, so you're committed.

[sly escarp]

Never played a soulslike, love the ability to dodge before and understand not being able to dodge out of the follow through, though do wish some follow throughs were a bit...shorter

The GS one feels like it just hangs for a moment and the entire time we're screaming inside

Same with one of the Long Blade attacks in the main combo

Feels like it needs a slower deceleration so it feels less like it hangs.

[gaunt falcon]

I'm just trying to get a feel on opinions because if SF is meant to be Elden Ring inspired, as Steve has said, I think the problem people have with animation locks is less the locks, and more enemy density.

[sly escarp]

And ends the animation with the sword at a slightly faster speed.

[gaunt falcon]

Tho, because like you said, you're screaming inside since they're so "long" so to speak

[sly escarp]

Not that they feel long, it's that it feels like the player should be able to move the sword, like the momentum is controlled so the lock being at that moment feels...off

Making it so it decelerates less in that time could help

Because it feels like a half second or less of the sword being under the Envoy's control from a momentum standpoint, but you're still locked.

It's a visual feedback issue.

[gaunt falcon]

Ah, a real animation issue then, yeah that I can agree with. Some of them do look visually off

I was thinking more of the speed of animation locks that people tend to complain about because you got 6+ guys coming at you who can all attack at the same time.

[livid thistle]

Anyone not able to play soulframe?

[gaunt falcon]

Just feels like DE is falling into the same problems Fromsoft have found and corrected for solid melee combat

[arctic hazel]

how come the game recaps item gains every day/night transition if it's showing old items i've collected?
sometimes I don't relog for hours and it tells me about the random 24 totems i collected 17 hours ago which can make it hard to see what i'm actually getting

is there any way to configure it so it only shows me item gains once or something

[gaunt falcon]

I was in just a moment ago, like a minute or two

[livid thistle]

Oh no like the peeps without early access

[arctic hazel]

oh yeah you need early access to access the game early

jkjk game's only accessible with a code atm

[livid thistle]

[arctic hazel]

closed pre-alpha

[celest sorrel]

im ngl its hard for me to get into the mindset of what i "want" to use, because im warframe brained where if you dont use meta you literally cant do a lot of content

[livid thistle]

I got 1 code for someone who needs it

[arctic hazel]

no endgame here yet

cogah kinda but is it that difficult

[celest sorrel]

idk what cogah is

[arctic hazel]

hard mode

[lofty dune]

steel path

[celest sorrel]

oh, the game hasent introduced it to me yet

i just did the bear

[gaunt falcon]

It's usually virtue/pact based rather than weapon based because all the weapons, depending on the grip-type, work virtually the same.

[livid thistle]

There’s a steel path for soulframe???

[arctic hazel]

kinda

[frigid spoke]

no

[lofty dune]

The equivalent, do-it-again-but-harder-for-additional-loot, is Cogah mode

[arctic hazel]

cogah is more like
instance based I think

it's just harder sieges/boss fights with no revives to my knowledge

not entire missions or anything

[gaunt falcon]

It lasts for as long as you stayed logged in or upon death once started

Sadly no faction tales in it yet, so its only worth is boss farming which is still on a 3hr timer

[frigid spoke]

It's a boss rush with the more bosses you kill the higher lvl everything gets. Highest I've seen was lvl 200 but that takes a lot of time to get to.

All bosses except for king and those in siege(3hrs) are on a 30 min timer.

[slim flax]

I don't understand this game.
Why can avakott sometimes move twice?
Why can I sometimes not move onto the same tile where the opponent is, but he can?

[lime pine]

can someone help me with nimrod quest. i killed him without the cloudquell and my game is still dark and foggy. i think im losing my mind

[jaunty nimbus]

Hello, I'm having a problem with the game. When I transferred the game files from one hard drive to another, it only opens in the background. Is there a solution?

[lament seal]

Landing on the shields make that piece invulnerable and give that player a bonus move

[slim flax]

tyvm

[frigid spoke]

Uninstall it and reinstall where you meant to.

[smoky crater]

if you're trying to launch the "Soulframe.x64", that's the issue.
you need to launch the Launcher.exe 👀

usually the cause of it just opening in the background anyway

but yeah if thats either not what you're doing, or it happens anyway, yeah, reinstall the game

[stark folio]

Hello ! i'm having an issue where the mk dosn't drop anything on death. 3 times in a row he didn't gave our squad anything. Do you know what to do in that case please ?

[frigid spoke]

rng

[vagrant kayak]

You need to actually pick up the Agari mushroom that spawns when you kill him to get a drop

[jaunty nimbus]

If that's the case it means the game files are corrupted.

[vagrant kayak]

RNG would be bad drops, not NO drops

[frigid spoke]

lol or that, unless it didn't spawn

[jaunty nimbus]

I can't because it's not installed

[smoky crater]

wdym?

[frigid spoke]

Easy fix then, install the game.

[jaunty nimbus]

I will try now

[stark folio]

I mean, those times, the mushroom didn't spawn

[sturdy mantle]

Do people still do boss shares a lot or has that died down since the cd was reduced?

[vagrant kayak]

That's a bug then sadly

[stark folio]

Oh ok.

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Regatta will teach you all about how regatta works, my fellow board game lover ;P

[jaunty nimbus]

Its worked
thanks

[arctic hazel]

look up a board game called ur

regatta is bascially a modified version of that

it's borderline identical except the board is like, one tile longer

[slim flax]

Thanks the hint from Zephyrkul already explained everything I needed to know. Game is fun, can you also play it against other players at this moment?

[finite stone]

Yep you can play against others! How to do PvP is explained on the wiki page

[slim flax]

👍 ty

[celest sorrel]

isnt avakot like, literally Backgammon?

[slim flax]

Basically, but not completely

[arctic hazel]

.

the best board game of all time

[crude ermine]

hopefully DE fixes the pull smite before trying to continue Cogah.

fingers crossed

[arctic hazel]

what's wrong with it

buggy or their overreliance on it

smite is a basic necessity to have a good build atm

[tired sail]

It does have a targeting/lock on issue

[crude ermine]

pull smite can pop up and then not allow you to pull it.
and I shot a boss for awhile and it never showed up.
I didn't need it to kill the boss

yeah lockon issue Ig

pull smite does make it easier tho LOL

[arctic hazel]

one thing i am surprised at the moment

voltaic damage has a nice animation that strikes enemies with lightning when they block it

but it does no damage

[rigid narwhal]

Hey/Tja!
I would say that is a bug that the devs need to get notified about.

[finite stone]

I think that's specifically the effect of the archstorm rune, not necessarily voltaic as a general damage type right? At least I didn't get the same vfx whilst using an odiac with rune inactive

[arctic hazel]

maybe it was rune specific

I was getting it with the flyblade voltaic rune

still weird they bothered animating for it specifically on a block and then it has no added effect

[uncut forge]

I need a code to play the game, how can I acquire one?

[finite stone]

idk I think the blocking may have been coincidence? If it was hurlwind, it just does lightning strikes on enemies after they're struck (same as archstorm), and they might have happened to block because of your flyblades in general

[arctic hazel]

ah hm

maybe

[hot stag]

need I anything more to unlock, or is it all faction/pact gain/weapon gain now, do I have every building for me "nightfold"

and do weapons of the same type have the same skill tree regardless of what tier of that item it is?

[autumn musk]

ur missing 1 building

[hot stag]

I figured i was missing something

[spice lynx]

Is the Regent's Shell supposed to be sold by Lady Deora? I'm playing Roses after maxing out Kith and when I first joined I could see it in her store. However, now at rank 2, I no longer see it in her store but I do somehow have 1/4 fragments in my inventory. I never bought it though as it was locked to Rank 4?

[autumn musk]

They have been removed from faction shop post thawtide

you can still farm them from doing bounty missions tho

[hot stag]

where i go to start getting that building?

[spice lynx]

Thank you! I was confused because I saw it in the store when I joined 2 days ago but then it disappeared lol

[autumn musk]

complete the brewer of hues mission

[crude ermine]

yall know this last rune?
I know one of them is treefeller. last two I need

[autumn musk]

mistgale from cogah knell/dog(reaper)

[crude ermine]

thanks!

knell I go

[thin hare]

can i like play coop from the start with my friends?

or is it only missions

[brittle nacelle]

you can play with them but the fables may be a bit buggy in co op

think I saw someone say that you only need to do em once for all of you as well, but that too can be buggy and you may need to repeat the fable if you're not host

[finite stone]

Thawtide was much longer than 2 days ago, so it won't have been that

Are you sure you just didn't complete your fragments, and that's why it won't show in the shop any more?

Deora's set is meant to show in the Rose offerings afaik, but once you already own it, then it won't be available for purchase any longer because you already own it (and outfits can't be sold)

[rough jetty]

Hey Envoys, how does one get the Bow rune

[crude ermine]

Alca Breath or Torrent?

[rough jetty]

Ooooo Optioonnsssss

[rough jetty]

Both!

[crude ermine]

Alca Breath can be acquired from Gruul Seeker Ruthos or Etheldread the Weaver
Torrent can be acquired from Gruul Seeker Ruthos Cogah

you can stay in cogah and go away from the boss and afk inn the nightfold for the boss to respawn

incase you dont get it

[rough jetty]

Absolute champion you remain, appreciations are in order

[open sail]

About to spawn camp him lol

[thin hare]

whats the fables?

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables

[thin hare]

oh

i can just invite them when i start the game then?

it shouldnt be an issue but can be with the fables beginner quest thing

[finite stone]

I think it's after you complete the rise envoy tutorial fable that you can invite people? Not 100% sure but yeah it's very soon

just wouldn't recommend doing fables in co op, everything else is okay though

[thin hare]

do you know how long that envoy thing is?

[finite stone]

Rise is a short tutorial quest, 5mins

[thin hare]

ohh

[thin hare]

how do i see my friends properly? there is no icon or anything for me in the map nor the compass

[finite stone]

once they're in your world, or you're in theirs, then they should appear on your map and iirc your compass too. So if you're in the same game, and that's not happening, then maybe it's bugged

[thin hare]

I can't see them in my map but they are in my world

Do you know if there is a way to always keep the compass on?

[finite stone]

Yep, toggle the 'Compass always on' option in settings

[thin hare]

thanks

is there a guide for the game? like how to do more damage and similar things

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/ should have pretty much anything you need

If you want to deal more damage specifically, look at the 'improving weapons' part of https://wiki.avakot.org/Weapons

In general, reading the Gameplay page will be pretty useful if you're a new player

[thin hare]

thanks

is the best staff only p2w? the adler one

[spice lynx]

No, I only have 1/4 fragments for it. I never purchased it from the store. I did acquire all frags required for the lower body of that set though. Am I able to collect all of it from quests? I was under the impression I could buy them outright from the offerings, but like I said they've disappeared.

[finite stone]

Hmm no I think you're right then it must just be tale only now, but it's weird that you saw it in there before

Difficult for me to check or anything since I already own it so it wouldn't have appeared in mine either way haha

It is listed on the wiki as just a tale drop, but I'm just confused if you saw it in the offerings 2 days ago

[spice lynx]

I wonder if it was just a bug with swapping to the faction from a different one? I only saw it until I hit rank 2 and then it disappeared lol

I didn't even realize I could find fragments for that set as it only suddenly started happening after switching to Rose

[lament seal]

the alder and the erstroot have near-identical stats it looks like

[thin hare]

oh

[vivid cliff]

just got my first invitation to squad, and it was pretty cool. easy to accept too. boss went down super quickly compared to me doing it myself

was fun!!!!

I hope there is more group content in the future. gets lonely playing just me and ol' avacot

[real flare]

is there only 1 rune available for staff atm?

[fallen gyro]

Every weapon type has one normal and one cogah rune now

[real flare]

do you know how to get the cogah rune? is it like an upgraded version?

i keep seeing the word cogah but havent came across it yet, so a little unsure

[fallen gyro]

The cogah magick rune makes enemies explode when they die, you get it by killing wraith in cogah

Cogah's a hard mode you get by drinking a potion you can unlock at Verminia

[lament seal]

the cogah cola

[real flare]

thanks, this community is very helpful

[thin hare]

what is the soul thing that drops from enemies??

[vivid cliff]

those are memories, I think

press your witcher sense and attack them

[thin hare]

spectral sight?

[vivid cliff]

they will fly into you, and the weird ghost with the infant on his shoulder will sometimes say encouraging things

yes, spectral sight, sorry

[thin hare]

my attack just goes through it

[vivid cliff]

while you are holding down spectral sight?

[thin hare]

Yes

i can't even attack when i hold actually

[vivid cliff]

it pulls it into me every time I do it. bow, staff or greatsword

oh, left click while aiming at it?

seriously it works for me

[thin hare]

it doesn't attack for me for some reason i guess

[vivid cliff]

or use the "pull smite" button

while aiming at it

mine is bound to R, not sure about your keybindings

[thin hare]

nope doesn't work either

[vivid cliff]

ok sorry 🙁

[thin hare]

It's fine it might just be bugged

[frigid spoke]

you shouldn't be able to see it unless you are holding spectral sight button. If you aren't and are seeing them, your button is stuck. Hit it a few times and try again. It's q + left click if you didn't change things

[thin hare]

i see it without holding spectral sight

[frigid spoke]

button is stuck then

well not stuck but it locks you in the sight for some reason

hit it a few times

[drifting cape]

OH so thats what pull smite is. i was wondering

[thin hare]

its just bugged nothing is working on it

[frigid spoke]

log off n back.

[drifting cape]

i always used pull smite on them

so spectral sight + attack

[rough forge]

Questions about Cogah:

1. Is it per-player or per-session? aka if playing with friends, does each person need to use a potion?
2. Can you be invited into a session that has cogah active?

Trying to work out how much resource grind needs to be done to play it a bit with friends.

[frigid spoke]

1 potion for a group. be in a group 1st. Cannot invite to a cogah

[rough forge]

Awesome thanks

[frigid spoke]

np

[rough forge]

Is quest progression required? Or could I drag a brand-new friend into a group and run Cogah? (obviously not a great idea)

[frigid spoke]

er they have to do the begining stuff I believe but have never tried bringing in a new new person =/

They'd be hurting as lvl 35 is the starting mobs and get higher every boss kill

[rough forge]

Yeah, I was more asking if they had to have played since prelude 11 and done the wevetwood quest.

[frigid spoke]

Can't hurt to try lol

[elder peak]

What does it mean after I log in and I hear a howl?

Is that a spoiler thing?

[jolly pumice]

is there a point in unlocking the same item? in crafting? i have one already and recepy still drops but it has wines now

[autumn musk]

Wolf quest ongoing

[elder peak]

How do I find the next part?

[autumn musk]

Mm kill more random enemies

[elder peak]

Alright

[hot stag]

ok so i did that, now is that it for buildings?

kk, the question is now what lol aside from leveling where should i spend time to gear up

[raven basin]

do normal mode bosses and cogah mode bosses share the same respawn timer?

[frigid spoke]

er no, you can kill a boss in normal, go cogah and kill same one again

king n sieges are 3hrs

[vivid cliff]

What are we supposed to do with the suicide vest guys? like the ones that explode at end of life?

[rough forge]

Not stand next to them?

Actual answer: this is what dodge rolls are for.

[vivid cliff]

ok tyvm

[hot stag]

does doggo actually combat?

[vivid cliff]

mine just sleeps around the blacksmith....

[frozen spruce]

Anyone think it would be cool if magic had an air dodge?

[rough forge]

I'd settle for a rune that bumps you up slightly in the air on a kill. Let us pretend to be zephyr a little.

[unique mulch]

guys what is arrow hail?? is it a fully charged arrow?

[rough forge]

Heavy attack with bow

[open sail]

middle mouse hold

[hot stag]

should my flippie floppie be like this thin black text denoting the note numbers?

[sly escarp]

Nope, looks like Repair Game Files time;

[rough forge]

If he bound it to numpad, they will appear like that. Same with things like Space and Shift. There's not icons for every key

[sly escarp]

Interesting

[hot stag]

ah I have yea

[sly escarp]

The more you know

[hot stag]

thats incredibly irritating, numpad is far easier for me to do it that way

[rough forge]

Yep. I found it easier to bind to Space-Shift-A-S-D, just to keep my fingers on the keys. Bottom of my bars are just empty circles, but A-S-D all render properly

[open sail]

set them (the numpad) as the alternates, nto the defaults

[rough forge]

^