#gameplay-discussion
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hm i am missing 1 armor
wazzard talisman probs
have cogah one
what is the faction rep daily limit? im not getting anymore rep
16k
We out here minmaxxing buttslam stats?
it's glutes day
does raising ur player level increase the cap?
no
wonder how long that build is going to last
UTC+0 00:00
bear bro forever
even after the inevitable nerf
Stability & Magick totems will get you to the sacred 129
4 days is a sunday?
winter solstice, was said update will come on the "longest day of the year"
pls let it be true
likely just the event being activated for the winter event, but they may update some things along with it, no idea, we'll see
So I can see it being delayed for polish, but hopefully you're right
how alpha like is it right now? I've watched a few videos and it looks great, but is there a lot of co op activity or mostly solo?
very coopable, i'd say its pretty active atm
All content can be done solo, but yes, very coopable
but its still pre-alpha, and with many bugs, and probably enough content for a few days/(week if slow)
got it, thank you
polska gurom? poland mentioned
scream if you love poland
kurwa bober ❤️
bobr kurwa
i really thought we would get the update yesterday
Using the Cogah talisman will get you 2.2k damage and 128 armor. 129 will get you about 2k, so there's always more to min-max jsyk
have my hopes high for friday
the sacrifices we make to get more Polish
dont have the cogah talismab yet but will soon
than i will stay cogah xD
it was the totems
How the heck u get that high
welcome to the club bear bro
butt slammed it?
i remember that you told me you hit them to activate the passive of the armor or something like that for the ability, it remind me of something but idk if im right
Magick + Stability totems, best armour + wazzard's wish
it's the armor steal passive but I don't think it always procs properly
The stealing armour doesn't really work atm it feels like. It's either that, or the buff it gives to scale into the butt slam is doodoo
understandable
You can use the courage potion from Verminia, though
It'll help you get to the courage breakpoint for the slam which is like 46 virtue, so then it scales by 1.3x
Whats so good about wazzards wish
2225 of damage oh my mora ~
it gives the +3 armour, tho the cogah talisman gives +2 and +10 attack. It actually hits harder, but not everyone has it
It's pretty meh as talismans go
Hey naito!
Hey Joom!
Grod or lorcan
Lorcaan
you're a wall now
Does the Cogah actually give +10 attack?
Sure does
I have one frag of it
Plus, don't the Cogah talismans only work in Cogah?
Is that the best in game rn?
Works everywhere
Huh, neat
I tried is and saw no difference, someone said it only worked in Cogah
I thought that too but someone said no
Yeah, the Cogah talisman hits for 2.2kdmg whilst the normal build for Bromius hits like 2k, so it definitely is better in some cases
imma try to get it to 2500 or 130, i'll see what i can do since the cogah talisman give more, right?
can't get to 130 atm 🙁
that's fire!!
Whats best armor
Clearly the best talisman is any talisman that's in the shape of a cute animal
the 2500 would definitely come when dirnking the potion, tho. There's a lot of min-maxing to do
Squirrel shaped talisman when
Arbearer helmet, Orengall or Mockery chest, King or Mockery legs iirc
Might be missing one or two options though
king i believe
And isn't the King chest the most stat wise?
Want
No, no, the Or means equal in stat numbers
Well I already have the helmet equipped but im missing the douthrot
How u get orengall armor
You can buy it all
Mockery has insane stats but they're mostly in Stability, so they tend to be tied for highest stats in most slots.
From where
camel
Alcas Children faction shop and tales
Yea no im not gonna spend real money
That costs arcs
Alca
i know
i got to detach my brain from Skyrim... i was looking for my frontbar / backbar, so i though HUD was hidden... then i was trying to loot all the plants and wood i came across for crafting but its not about that 🫣
Ah im.still rank 2 in kith so may be a while
Mockery is equivalent total stats and can be gotten more easily if you want a Meanwhile option
Ooooh, the armour is honestly subjective looking at it. Depends on what you want, but I know "best" armour is 10 total helm, 16 chest, 10 for legs. You can distribute as you like, ofc.
orengall
Yep, the only one with only one option is Arbearers Helm at 10, every other slot has 2-3 options.
I almost have the mockery but need like 1 or 2 frags of dothrout
🏹 my 3rd person view, blocks my view of the bow (dot target)... thx god for endless arrows, i dont have to teleport to my base and craft x100 and go back out to finish enemies
I don't know why I get tripped up when I've known the info lmao, for some reason I thought mockery actually had better stats overall
oh fr? huh cool
still gonna stick to my mendicant helm atm
You can use verminia to bestitch so you can technically have the best stats and toughest look
oh ive bestitched the mendicant helm, im just more at peace with the distribution of the mendicant helm compared to the arbearor one
🔊 why are the voices or enemies sound like "ECHO in a chamber" while they charge at me ??? i know they half robot but sounds off - as if we were all locked in a room and voice bounces off walls 🤔
Blame Ode'n technology
i still think that one glitch where they death sprint at you is a funny game mechanic
because... they have helmets on?
my first 1H into the game and i haven't yet called upon my SPARROW, to show me the way... i just use the Compass and point towards the bird icon, as i pierce trough the fog (looking for the next tree, that will clear the map)
interesting
I could be wrong, but i think the shading is a bit aggresive
now you can solo nimrod wooo
i was one shotting him at 1850
but now its optimal one shot XD
I assume right now it's only the 3 faction leaders for quest locations and rank ups?
You can play with the graphic settings
one shot deluxe
If you get the stagger distance for damage right, you can one-shot in Cogah too. It basically doubles the damage which is nice.
This and I think it's implied they can't breath the air so they're all basically Darth Vader
- Fellust
- Left-click 5 times
- Profit
it's fun for the first few hours... then I go back to my other builds because I wanna push more buttons
im gonna try to have that same damage with different weapons, might involve potions
They can breath the air afaik anyway.. tho they do have those incense things at their camps... But they can't drink plain water and have to pump ichor from underground and mix it with the water 
Wasn't actually sure how it worked but the description on one of the helms talked about making air breathable.
did you know you can shoot doors open?
real strength lies in kick only ❤️
This chat feels like Prelude server chat, it feels like home
is there a way to check how much daily faction rep thing I have left?
this makes me want to kick walk from king to ruthos for ✨ c o n t e n t ✨
no wait, punching only too ❤️
Ah yeah would make sense too. I'd imagine it's probably a sort of a similar situation as with humans in Avatar where they can survive for a few minutes just breathing the air that's on the planet but not for longer than that... Maybe. Just a theory 
OH BROTHER HOW I LOVE BEING STEALTHY
there's a bug where sproutlings don't attack but circle around you and I'm thinking of taking them on a world trip for "content"
That's some broken good shit
😂 my bad I'll make it right now lmao
I actually want to know and hope we get more lore from the game honestly. I'm a nerd about little details like that and the game already has really cool and tantalizing story.
some cool guy from the avakot wiki pieced together the camel's entire monologue
oreo? :v
Drackore
I need to see that later
I remember him opening a thread here
Oh yeah, i remember!
There's a "lore compendium" q&a thread on the old preludes discord server if you're interested 
Can invite you to that server if you wanna
Never realized you could invite ppl there
Slightly old and didnt get updated for a good while but most of it is still valid
I'd wager it's an oversight 
Yeah after the discords were merged we got the ability to invite others there
Yee
Please! Would love to read
Is it just me or does the courage faction give you way too many "destroy basculum" quests without giving you any way of getting a thunder stone to take them out without getting reckt
Agreed
Hmmm cant seem to be able to figure out on phone but im gonna be home soon enough so.
Unless Shatter's willin to invite ya 
Thank the gods it's not just me
soulframe playable this moment? its like mmo or like warf where you alwase single?
Yes solo, with hosting/joining players through invites
Single Player with up to 3 player co-op
thx
The starting pacts are like picking the difficulty of the game ngl
Probably been asked a million times but thinking of wanting to get a founder pack whats the current hours of content atm?
Is the gameplay loop similar to Warframe?
Tethre = Easy Mode
Oscelda = Normal Mode
Sirin = Good Luck Mode
SIRIN SLANDER???? I will not stand for it
I'd say between 40-50 hours?
Literally my main pact atm
is that with repeatables and farming?
Was scared for a moment
But same, genuinely love Sirin
perpetual stuns
kind of a mixed in between I'd say, you get pretty quick progression if you share loot with others
thats fine just wanna know if theres more to what videos are out there or is it still a rigid testing enviorment. already hands full with ashes
Sirin - Blind forever
Oscelda - Petrified forever
Tethren - Dead forever
just difficult to get around, since we don't have mounts yet, and fast travel is limited to an item you can get 1-3 daily
Tethren - Was something here?
Tried my best in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1443580132727197861 ! I've added it to his wiki page with some caveats, not had much comment from others on it yet but idk if that's just because it's the only way it fits together 😅 it's only the filler words that I'm a little unsure of 
after 2k hours in ashes walking far distances is completely fine lmaoo
Wagii mentioned the lore compendium, there's also the https://wiki.avakot.org/Lore wiki page which should have everything in there and more I think? (but if anything's missing feel free to add it, or let me know and I can!)
I completely agree re lore, it's my favourite thing about Soulframe and I'm absolutely dying for more, especially on Ode and the Fey 🫠
Ashes of Creation?
imagine
Dendrit skateboard
yeah
Ah, I thought it was still in testing phase too
it is just burnt out atm and group took a break for next wipe
Soulframe is still in Pre-Alpha, so there's not much to burn through yet, but it's very well made comparable to a lot of triple A titles
I hope the event and update this month is good, I wanna play more frequently
is this a good forum to ask for build advice? I am just now in character creation and all the new words for stuff are difficult to understand.... is there a recommended "build" for starting? in other games I like relatively relaxed and low button-busy ranged builds, and for more sweaty pvp-like encounters a stun/cc-heavy hybrid ranged melee style.
any recommendations for initial choices?
I think so, yeah
(I do have the founders pack stuffs)
(you dont need em to be strong)
This guy is made for Sirin
🙂 I sense some (likely well deserved) humor at my expense 🙂
Well I'm 5k xp away from hitting my goal but I think I also finally hit the soft cap for faction XP, I'm getting maybe 100xp per quest now no matter the tier
Lol, you'd probably just enjoy the Sirin pact, which is basically the starting "class"
Bromius pvp would feel like Sumo
16k is Daily cap
ok ty!!
If you reach it, you get 0
Xp per tales differs from Monster level/zone and Tier
As for builds, you'll be using a bow, so gotta get totems (or mods) that'll increase smite chance (crit chance), attack speed, or however you want. You'll also enjoy the Torrent rune (a mod that enhances playstyle)
If you want an easy game early, Oscelda is a good choice, since you'll have sustain/cc
If you have the founder's pack, it really doesn't matter which starting build you go for. Paragon includes essentially a better version of all the starter packs.
which founder did you get?
Sirin is great starting pact because it has so many resets and ways to get out of a fight. Great while learning the mechanics. Also bows are FUN
Oh interesting, then why are enemies/quests much higher than me (to the point of them being silver bar) giving me next to no XP?
It means they have more are more than your current primary attack
You can overcome it through heavy attacks or throws I think
sirin pact is like an assassin/rogue/thief type, pick pocket/backstab if not seen/in position
I think the overwhelming consensus is that out of the three starter pacts, Sirin is by far the weakest.
They're not giving you no xp, it's just that they're armour is higher than your light attack. Like Stallbourne said, heavy attacks + throws can break through that. Plus, if you get a smite, it increases your damage for a duration, which will also mitigate the silver health bar
Hmm, maybe I am just in a poor area for this then, I'll head east and try again I guess
This is true, because Sirin requires a bit of skill to pop-off in the early game
Idk, Oscelda is like Sirin. They're not boss killers, but they have their own ways to basically ensure you never die. It's just how easy they are to use comparatively.
all of them, I think. whatever the $99 is
¯_(ツ)_/¯
throw dust in their eyes, distract with a "clone", and use a butterfly to become "invisible" to backstab/steal, some enemies can detect you, some enemies cant be backstabbed
Ah, Paragon pact
Oh, yeah, you can play any of the three starting pacts then. Try them all out, see what you like.
ok. which should I try first? that might be a better way to ask
The dust in their eyes keep them from being backstabbed because of a bug atm, so you have to wait for it to finish, then butterfly. But you get a lot of free hits in.
hand of mora after next reset, heard it ain't great but looking forward to something new
Tethren is must have to lvl up your weapons, if you’re playing solo. Other pacts are okay but have no unique purpose
but isnt a butterfly a type of bug? 
You can quest with any pact really. You don't many people bringing Sirin into Cogah runs, however. You do see a few osceldas and tethrens; and of course bromius.
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 i thought it was a condiment
tyvm. tethren it is.
bugs have carapace, butterflies are insects
If you ask me, Oscelda is good for beginners, cause you can make a lot of mistakes early, and this pact will keep you alive most of the time
no unique purpose is crazy, Oscelda is all about healing and stagger, and Sirin is about heavy CC. Ain't no wayyyy 😭 😭 😭
now we are getting too technical.... 🤦♂️
But don't overthink it, just have a feel for each one
Yeah, you have all three pacts. Genuinely try them all out
Oscelda is the casual friendly for sure, if you wanna get into it fast Teth
Sirin can’t cc spider :/
Not great? 😄 if you like making things explode into flames and go up in smoke, its a great packt! 🙂
8, 11 if you count the Wyld versions
wyld is like prime?
exactly that
It can, I've done it 🙁 they also fall for the big head one. Just can't backstab them I think
Yes spider can be cced even turned into stone mid air even in Cogah
if i pay for founder pack the will give me the key?
like 10 keys lol
What's annoying about that spider is it spams AoE even when you're on stealth mode
Ah well taunt is like whatever, sometimes bugs out. But Sirin’s first has bo effectvon em
maybe a dumb question: are keybinds editable? like for lefties or whatever?
thats the paragon version
Yep, just head into settings > keybinds!
they are
Sirin has no petrify
tyty. I feel silly now; I found it right away..
That's with all bosses, they're time under CC is shorter than normal enemies
the dust is still a type of stun....idk how long the petrify lasts...
It has a Blind skill
Of course Sirin has a purpose: Master Rank. (Sorry, I meant Envoy rank).
insane slander, i won't stand or sit down for this
Which doesn’t really affects spiders
that's true
gotta be ragebait with how the convo just circled there lmao
could be oversight who knows
What's a good change for Sirin, is if they made the 3rd skill ranged, like you can TP to where you aimed
off subject for a moment.....DSM car related?
no
Oscelda ofcourse.... sorry ❤️
The simplest thing with Spider and bosses in general -> their CC time is shorter than average, they can get out of the Oscelda petrify in a second, same with the Sirin stun. But they do fall for the Sirin clone, and if you put points into courage, it does respectable damage.
Well Sirin is supposed to be a CC frame and it’s only good against humanoids who can be just permastunned with throwing weapon. And it’s pretty bad against same enemies against which throwing permastun isn’t working too xD Irony
First thing that came to mind when I saw "DSM" is Shepherd's betrayal in MW2...

what
<@&1154466146741932193> scam above
bro is a scambot
@desert stag this guy
Thanks, handled.
Hey y'all hate to bother ya', how long time wise until faction cap reset?
Np chief
Midnight
2 hours 15?
Cheers, any clue which timezone or is it local?
Midnight at UTC 0 iirc
It resets around 00:00 UTC+0
so in about 6 hours
Cheers y'all, looked up the conversion but you already had me covered I appreciate it
A little sad that once you get to leveling the other factions as the last available thing to do you get time gated, I know they're working on it and also lol
I sure hope this rag I am using for underwear (currently the entirety of my outfit) has good stats... 😉
You will survive 1 stabbing
unfortunate after the 1st stabbing you are staggered and the second one is coming
where could I farm fire fungus, any recommended locations?
I have less fire fungus than pearls so I have no idea
Yeah I seem to... Struggle finding answers as well as my own finds- I found it in the farm at fort corial.. but like... It was a single shroom
Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure I have found them around fires, like the fire areas in certain dungeons or places that have a campfire or encampment
that would make sense since y'know.. F I R E fungus
you can get the fire fungus on swampy areas as well iirc
something about this feels right. A lot of materials are found basically where you would think.
#gameplay-discussion message this was a pretty good spot for me!
I'll give it a look!
I use flyblades as a means of minor support when using a greatsword, its pretty fun
Yeah, Teth helps with it a ton
nah i mean longsword rune that one where u can throw blades
For sure, if you want pure dmg teth pact and rat totem for surrounding dmg and then smite chance totem or if you want extra smite chance same thing but Orengall pact for the howl
The sword it throws out does the same damage as your actual sword, so if you use Teth, the 1st ability will scale that pretty high. That, or use Mora's Hand where the abilities will "set you on fire" and have the upgrade that increases weapon damage per being on fire.
orgengall is ass ngl
like the throw does more dmg then normal hit if not then its usless
cuz i wanna use the quicksilver thing to get 25% headshot dmg and throw my sword to the head
Mora's Hand will be consistent damage for the duration of the ember ability, whereas Teth will last for 5. Both will hit harder, Teth will hit harder.
Eh, Orengall torrent bow spam is really fun lol
You can't put Quicksilver on the sword 🙁
fr?
frfr
Yep
nahh my vision is goen
Only Verite and Gilduar
Go bow
i have a headshot bow build i literly 3 shot cogah bosses i tought i could do the same whit sword builds
always bow build is boring
You can, just not with Quicksilver. You'd have to use Teth.
Teth, Marrow's Bane, max courage, cogah attack trinket, sword rune should three shot cogah bosses
but thats alot to do yk
Valid
hmm imma try it still
Then try Mora's Hand with the first upgrade fully maxed. You only have to press 1 ability to activate the extra damage
And it's a good boost
I've maxed all pacts and working my way through the weapons right now, I think Sirin butterfly greatsword is one of my favorites just for how ridiculous it is
I have all weapons and got them t3 polished just finishing leveling primaries with faction tales
okay bet can u inv maybe
i wanna see some builds of yours
im looking for a fun build rn but idk what to make i tried alottt
Just go punch only and call it a day 😈
hahahaha
hahah u fr 😄
Well Torrent spam Orengall is what's getting me through leveling bows atm and it's really fun. Rain of Arrows with slow totem, Orengall howl and pact to tank while shooting, get a smite then crash your graphics processor with torrent rain of arrows, make multi-player friends hate you for crashing their gpus too
That's right, there's the Durglint shield build where you smite, and then hold your block to burn everything around you for free. Literally the most lazy build.
It also turns into a lazer beam for some reason, not sure why. Very funny to use.
No worries, since we're preludes atm build diversity still has a lot of growing room especially for personal taste. They're about to take a hammer to the virtues system as well as Steve put it in a stream so I'm interested to see what kind of builds come out of that
You really don't need orengall for that. Just use the smite chance totem.
I do agree: bows are fun in this game. I like bows.
True, I'm just a fan of the Orengall pact. Definitely one of my faves, not great in cogah or boss content atm but for faction tales roaming it's a blast
With what rune you do that?
Durglint.
Durglint
Ohhh tought that was the shields name, ty
Durglint rune
No worries
From Cogah.
I'm super hyped for the rumored cardinal skin from thawtide btw
Ooh! Really? Sauce?
im just hyped for thawtide
Steve mentioned in stream, sec while I look for a clip
man when yalll thing its the update
Much obliged good sir.
one day
"Soon"
dammn
how does a guy change & save a loadout? i thought I picked the staff, talisman, cuirass, etc I wanted, but there's no way to comfirm my choices
it comes when it's ready. not sooner, not later
Where's the Soon image when you need it
Found a reddit post going over the whole break down of the stream, there's a quick mention of the skin if you want me to dm you the link
The soon card I stole frome someone?
It's backwards, you create a new loadout you click on it, then you equip the things you want and needs no saving
It's actually so dumb but once you know how it works is fine
dang my house has a lot of bugs in it... I guess thats what I get for living in the basement of a tree...
no butts!
Butts!
An avid fan of butts, hence buttslam
Stealin this now
oh the "butts" and "no butts" of tennocon 2022 
@green elm
Hi! Figured out what happened: I broke the quest. If you enter verminia's cave using the entrance by the tower, it breaks that game's loading order for quest parts.
So, where I should have picked up the note from a different entrance, I picked it up by finishing the dungeon from another entrance (the one where you are supposed to finish at), causing her rat to spawn for me to chase. This broke the note where i couldn't retrieve it anymore.
And then further past that, once i did get the note, it immediatepy caused a storm.
You should add this in #1438224825113120788 so the devs would look into it
Omw to work, will do so when i get there
Tell your boss this is more important! 
Despite all of this, i still cannot chang emy helmet's glow color
So 2 irl days wasted on this quest
bad news guys logged in and my little bear was missing from nightfold

OKAY, at least i can use sword and shield for the bromius 2.2k damage
the woofa?
it can be outside the tent too
Thank you, I'd appreciate that.
Little bear? There is a bear cub in soulframe?
Sent your way
nah prob jus the wolf pup
I wish.. one day
oh found it next to fire now
long ah week
Sometimes the lil pup will chill next to Tukalvane
You, good sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
Heh. I find this part amusing: "Opt in PVP? PVP not on the menu right now, too much other stuff, not ruled out."
There's a saying in Spanish: "no les digas que no, solamente no les digas cuando"
facts
Where can u see dat?
It's not a no, it could also be not in this lifetime. 
Is linking to Reddit in this chat verboten?
i don't think it is?
Unsure tbh, I did once and someone said it was safer to delete it so I just avoid it
quickly checks on google what verboten means
Forbidden, not allowed is my best guess lol
ye
Well, if I disappear from chat, you'll all know why:
that's what i assumed it was
Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulFrame/comments/1pl2iog/steves_livestream_qa_summary_part_1/
Hi everyone, little question: I'm rep capped, do I get exp bonuses (for pact and weapons) if I continue doing faction tales? Or is it the same as raiding camps ?
no "bonuses" from doing tales to weapon/pact xp no
So the exp show at the completion screen was just the raiding exp. ok.
tyvm
Yep, kinda like how it does when the day changes over
hey guys, I died at the bear quest and now I'm not sure how to get back to him, the rat guides me back here but it is now blocked, any idea?
relog and run back to the dungeon entrance 
thank you, I will try now!
Relog is the "default fix" for everything weird
To my understanding it resets the world state in a sense
yep
Timers are still tracked though for bosses, but camps etc will respawn because the area is repopulated
the world gets reloaded on relog just as it would by going into a dungeon and back out 
do we know if they plan on making skills effect destructible environments more? kinda silly a shockwave or a single arrow rain wouldn't destroy a box (I know its a small issue but helps game flow a little)
Dungeons are the Fae Realm and every time we enter and leave an indeterminate amount of time has passed? What if we eat food inside a dungeon, will we be trapped there forever?
I believe this is a known bug
I definitely feel like the glades have gotta be their own pocket of existence at least 
Huzzah for pocket dimensions and subliminal spaces!
What if the glades is a specific fae court like summer or spring and the ode are polluting it?
Marrow is very aesthetically and functionally excellent, I love throwing the rune on it that throws a copy of the weapon and just go wild tossin' 'em
lets go
YOOOOOO!
What is this?
RAHH LETS GO
holiday event dropping in 3
the holiday event
Where need to go?
Sam popping up in the chat truly does always mean something is happening
you're probably gonna have to read the patch notes for that info
download the update when it drops 
and yeah patch notes are gonna tell all about it
hello at testing the warrior i wanted to go out and by mistake i chosed it , even though i want to play with hunter and also i bought hunter pack, what can i do?
we live lets go
I got that rune too, but I was a bit dissapointed with the animation. I was hoping for a more Zelda-like effect :p
now it just looks like tossing the weapon
Reduced the Agari respawn timer from 3 hours to 30 minutes. 😮
am i reading this correct? Reduced the Agari respawn timer from 3 hours to 30 minutes bosses respawn timer is down to 30 mins?
Yes
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Agari timers down to 30 minutes
the splitbolt rune looks hilarious
hello at testing the warrior i wanted to go out and by mistake i chosed it , even though i want to play with hunter and also i bought hunter pack, what can i do?
Steelsinger set fix
Change it in wardrobe
Once you've chosen your starting pact, you can get the other starting pacts and weapons at your faction shop.
just wanted to express how absolutely amazing this game is. Its been a long while for me since ive spent so much time in a game just enjoying running around and leep getting surprised over and over again everything about this game is such a joy. Even the bugs for me up to this point have been nothing short of great laughter. cant wait for the full version of this game expecting nothing but greatness😍
However, if you bought the Wyld Sirin pack you should have received a bow, dagger, armour, and Wyld Sirin you can swap to
Brewer of Hues start improvements, nice
so it doesn't matter what i chose at the beggining?
No it's just a starter
i can like swap later or with one i bought right?
Same as in warframe
It'll be your armour, weapon, and pact for a bit
And decides your starting favtion
But that's it
sorry i never played Warframe 🙂
You can swap in you armory, in your tent
oy bit of a Brom nerf and Oren buff it seems
You're not locked out of any content or acquiring/using any weapons, if that's your worry
Tethren nerf as well
I see they updated the faction xp, but i dont think they mentioned removing the cap. Is it 16k daily?
GOT A PRIMARY DAGGER MY CRIES HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!
gotcha thank you very much!!! i was affraid i did a mistake...
16k daily
Yes 16k
The patch says there are 40-50 level quests but I never found faction quests with high levels like that, where are they ?
You cant make mistakes in the game
cogah maybe?
thank you very much!!
how to do the thatwide quest
Read the patch notes.
Nah, you cannot do faciton quests in Cogah
Read patch notes
oh really? that sucks
i'm kinda new in this genre games... i want to try it though and learn
Pls stop updating werewalker and just change the ability to either a full transformation or something else
yeah i never got to experience the true bromius damage ah well
anyone have any info on the Optimize your Install pop up that keeps popping up if i should keep ignoring it or do it?
New runes seem sick
the throwing one is so cool
It will reduce your game size on disk
So it's worth it
what if all my stuff is on m.2?
Chloranthy's gonna be hyped for that Polearm toss
enternal
Internal?
Reduces game file size and improves loading speed
did they mention if geth will drop now
ye
Drops from Vadagar Stag
Apparently
Heyz they fixed the Debt bug!
Avakot will no longer be coming for kneecaps
bromius dmg's low now wow 🤣
How low is it?
build's not min maxed before the update but i deal 1.2k dmg per 1st skill, no 3rd (before nerf)
i deal around 400 now, with 3rd, dealing around 600
can still deal with mobs, but bosses, nah
I added this post to the feedback tracking, in case anyone is interested in upvoting and/or commenting on it
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1450932085379563620
Rip Bromius
I've thrown my weapon at every conceivable part of these barrels to try and put out this fire. I can't decide if it's either a bug, or bad game design. Help please. https://i.imgur.com/y8U1Hv2.png
Literally got it 5 seconds later.
FFS
Gotta break the boxes
Yeah, tethren > brom rn i think. can still deal around 2.6k
They can be a bit tough
well that's a new bow
looks nice
on one of the new enemies guarding the event things
Sara will love it
which bow is that? vaguely familiar
nice, tell me paragon was buffed
not one that we can craft
i dont think i crafted any of my bows 🤷♂️
i just noticed that when you hold soulsight up with mora's you get a Ignus Wroth into your hands 
this update is so good but i feel that theres something missing and we gonna get it in 30 or january. The faces and hair styles
think im blind cant seem to find Squawkers
Pretty sure there’s a lot missing, which is why it’s still alpha
its been there for a while yes and i though i could use the sword for something but its just something... idk
it's for the abilities themselves
???? I know that already xD
first ability you stick it into the ground, 2nd ability you swing it around you, 3rd ability you yeet it at an enemy
The faces and hair should have been in this update, right?
You’re welcome :)
never was a "should have been".
it was more of a "if they're ready for this update, sure."
interestingly, now that Ive had to re-start due to the update, my on screen character is actually wearing all the things I chose. before, even after selecting my loadout it still showed the curlyhaired kid without a hemlet, carrying the wrong staff, etc.
We can
It drops from the new Hunter enemies
Per the patch notes
The bow, the dagger, and the new armour set
So does the igni Mora sword ever actually catch flame like whenever you bond to the ghost? Or is it only exclusively for the ghost? Cuz I would like to have that in the regular sword too. But it would make sense if it was exclusively for the ghost
o
You can equip a fire rune to ignite it
not an old bow tho yeah 
Yeah i guess, dont jump on me xD
Oh yeah that's true I guess I never have actually found or obtained any runes yet
i won't 

maybe
How do I get runes?
Huh weird
I knew it!
What increases this level? Leveling up weapons and frames? https://i.imgur.com/fEQQda2.png
Kill Agari
They nerfed endless ahhh
yup yup
Lovely. And who is that?
also since the update my little bird no longer shows on the compass at the top of the screen...
Primary dagger ughhhhhhhhhh
If it's in your arsenal, then levelling pacts, weapons, and discovering location names.
Very curious about the daggers animations
How do you discover a location name?
Agari are the bosses that spawn across the map and drop mushrooms on death
we gotta see and it is nerfed or not. Since lvls will be 2 to 60
There's bosses that drop mushrooms? 😲
Collect the glowing soot motes in tht area
Cause maybe Endless is not nerfed but, BALANCED.
I guess I haven't explored enough of the island or something
only able to see half of it
Yes, they spawn around the world and drop weapons, armour, runes, and the mushrooms needed to start Cogah
Noted
do you guys have tips for river pearls?
man, thank goodness for the little guide bird... I would be completely lost without it.....
Walk up and down rivers
has somoen tested how badly tetheren got nerfed this patch yet?
Tethren's still good
not this one
I found that i get them more from killing big guys than actually near rivers
No longer op though? Or still a bit
Do my eyes deceive me or is thawtide here
Can somebody try Tethren with Torrent? Seems like the hails scale with fellust. My hails increase dmg depending how close i am to my last fellust shot
It’s a dream
Can still 1 hit discharged nimrod on the last fellust shot
Interesting
seems like every patch theres a nerf now
There’s a lot of broken stuff
Wait so its actually here
Yep
Bear was pretty op
And apparently tethren still is
they finally nerfed butt slam 3000? xD
3000K? damn
Endless does now end less
like solo 3k?
Where's the new weapons
endless ended at 99 anyways was never endless
my highest butt slam was 4360 actually in a full team xD
drops from event enemies
In fairness, Bromius and Tethren both were a bit much. A nerf was kinda needed for em, just to bring em in line a bit, imo.
bet
1 tap nimrod
is there a lot of balancing/nerfing/fine tuning common here too?
Bro i was working on content for soulframe now i have to change everything 
I am not sure I understand the fascination with that
Is thawtide out now?
It's a pre alpha, so yeah, nerfs, buffs, comete system overhauls...all pretty common.
It’s still in development so yes
Yep
yes
Damn ok
Yes mostly bc the game is in what de considers alpha so there's going to be loads of changes
@exotic gale yo
ok. I struggled with understanding the need in other games. hopefully it settles down once it goes live
is it just me, or did someone died on cogah and locked in deathloop? it happens only after patch just now.
It should it's not often they nerf in Warframe
If something is oneshotting bosses, it probably needed a nerf, tbh.
The game's meant to be slower and more focused on combat strategy, so anything out of balance will likely be adjusted.
Well i'm off to play for a bit
Lol fr bromius was
fun for fast farming
lets do a cogah run and see
Totally not guilty using bromius for boss runs no... Lol
what is the best api grafich? directx11 or 12?
To play Warframe or to play soulframe. THAT is the question. To be or not to be
I've already grinded Warframe and max ureil out with like 4 forma LOL
One you have both bird skins is there any reason to keep crafting seeders?
ah yes poor people that didnt lvl up their gear till now
best region to search for seeders?
lvling should be easier with the exp fix
I have a lot of like grinding capabilities but it is still an RNG at the end of the day and even though I have all the parts I have not gone into the battlefield much due to personal PTSD with IRL army problems and honestly I also have decision paralysis so trying to figure out what to do is like trying to figure out what finger to cut off
i mean it was ok if somebody else did the smite finisher anyways
I just wandered around south and am currently crafting both birds, was quick
Oh ouch there no faster way to lvl
careful, i died in cogah and stuck in deathloop now, everytime revived, instant death again despite nothing hits me
oh dayum butt slam ability isnt nerfed its just extra CD xD
Yes but lvling is now faster in general, not just for endless rooms
Oh rip I hope you get to farm then
thatskinda mad no
Right
diminish returns is a nerf 😭 😭
wait did they fix ability scaling
my 3 on garren rood is doing way less damage than it was before the patch
I regret not maxing garen considering endless or what was endless rip
ah you mean third ability no longer buffs butt slam x2? but you gotta recieve dmg for it to boost?
yet to test the max armor damage
Wait, passive..... Do the classes even have passives? Cuz if I recall you still have to obtain passives through using skill points
the damage u gain from armor is nerfed.
I'm testing it now, but it seems to be armour in general, even what you have on
pretty much doesnt give u as much
i guess testing time
Holy they murdered it
It means each armour point adds less damage the more points you have. 1 armour might add 10, then your second adds 9 for a total of 19, then three adds 7 for a total of 26, etc.
129 armour, with the 3rd ability buff = 612 damage
I feel like I should be paying more attention to what the conversation is about. What's this about?
Bromius nerf
Oh yeah I haven't tried it yet so I can't have anything to compare. I still need like two steel to build it
They killed Bromius
Yeah it's done lol
That's not surprising. The ultimate literally was invulnerability
Damage reduced at minmax from 2.2k to 600
Which is fine. Helps with the adds.
But obviously won't be killing bosses in a single hit
How well do the orengall wolves fair now against cogs bosses?
600 with 131 armor ?
the melodrama over something that was flagrantly overtuned is kind of funny, ngl
Will Sparrow Tales be added to Cogah Runs in the future. Love blasting high tier mobs and would be great to faction push at the same time???
thats some piss poor damage 
Hold on so..... I thought they were talking about bromius, that sounds a lot like therian. Or however you spell the warrior class
Was away for a few minutes, and I come back to an update! Nice.
damn haha
What the hell? Who dropped it?
I'm confusing myself
Tethren?
uhh i forgot but its cogah boss
They nerfed both
Oh they never both????
how bad is it?
Bromius got Rump Thump reduced from 2.2k to 600 at min max.
patch notes anywhere?
yup 2.2k buttslam is around 600 rn
alright time to orengall
AH HELL
😂
Apparently Tethren is still hitting hard but just less over the top.
Oh from the new patch. I’ll check it out later
yup back to wolf pact to abuse the smites xD
Well to be fair I was able to like four hit cannons so I guess that's not so bad but
Both honestly needed the nerfs imo
So this seems about what should have been expected.
Though Bromius could probably have been at 1k damage and been fine.
Did they also updated the virtue system or will it be in P13?
i mean it still one shots the normal mobs
teth is strongest, brom still strong - rip cogah nuking
Not yet
Exactly.
just not the bannerets and bosses anymore
is the appearance/hair change fixed
i guess time to abuse it with mass wolfs to inflict stagger lmao
Yeah I did expect them to get nerfed a BIT!! But now it's like the only thing people have to turn to is like.... Invisibility.... But if they nerf that then we're all screwed
Not yet
They better not have messed with my fellust
They did
Reduced the damage scaling
lol
ill sue
Odiac still broken, good XD
Still hits, just less hard
Good I like odiac
surprised they didnt touch torrent..
spicy, got this and now locked in deathloop kekw
upgrades to 100%
I could just see people spamming hard attacks now
That sounds so fun to use
Already were on Greatswords
Also cogah dropping ELIXIRS IS SO GOATED
You weren't before?
any pacts became more op?
Im not sure more op is possible for Bromius
Is there any way to heal outside of using flasks?
Something that I do like about soulframe that I love is that because...... Well maybe it's just because there's not a lot of options right now.... But I like how the simplicity makes it easier to just kind of make sure that you use every single ability in your arsenal...... You know what I mean? Like Warframe has this thing where like......1 button = win sometimes. I'm not complaining by any means it's just an observation
nah like moras hand sirin
So now all the bosses respawn after 30 mins ?
Certain pact abilities and the Heal on Smite Pact Art
Orengall got buffed
as far as?
This might give me a chance to actually see them lol
Reduced the Agari respawn timer from 3 hours to 30 minutes. apparently
oscelda pact got a healing ability . + every pact got this
I love this ability 🥰🥰
especially on orengall xD
standard pact perk
Well you could see them before , it's just after you killed one you needed to wait 3hours before being able to kill the boss you just killed
clearer looking
Werewalker has built in invis, wolves have more health and do more damage
yes i did say that lol
So the only classes that I've unlocked are the main 3, the wolf one, and I'm about to unlock the bear one
So which one is that?
Orengall is Wolf
Why is the wolf class so special with this particular ability compared to other ones?
wolf one is the only pact buffing smite % hence why i was talking about it with the pull smite healing
The 3 increases smite chance
Yeah but you can just add more Smite to your weapons to counter the- whatever 🤣
So if you have, say, 10% smite chance, the 3 can increase it to make More Smites
Ok so this is embarassing, how do you even pull smite?
There's entire builds based around adding ALL the smite on a weapon then using the 3
About the new event, my hunters are not lvling up... they continue lvl 10 after 8-10 camps raided. Maybe its just slow....
Hold q then attack
So whenever your enemies are glowing, you use the site and the attack button
Did you go further north?
more smite for your smite
MEAT GRINDERS
Enemy level usually increases the further NE you go
I only farm north, near that archer boss
Interesting
bro that ain't no meat grinder, that's a robot grinder from The robots movie.
notice the starling smite stats
Ahh yes oversized birb LOL
thats a big boy
Isn't the rat bigger than the bird? At base size?
birb mount confirmed
3 in 50? That's not that big is it? I mean I guess it's better than three out of 100 but like that's only doubling the amount of smite chance do to a typical sword.... What am I missing??
Funniest bug about co op
3/50 = 6/100. It added 15% smite chance
it goes from passive 6% to 21% just by using the wolf third ability
Oh I guess it makes sense that I don't use the third ability that much so I wouldn't know that 🤣
If you take the Smite perks in the weapon arts tree, the Smite totems, and Howl, you can get like 50% smite chance.
And since Sympathy heals on smite
they definitely changed some sort of underlying scaling because my 3 on garren rood went from doing 70 a hit to 20
You can become basically immortal
the go to with wolf is use a bow. pop third ability use arrow rain and its smiting time
Defeat the Hunters and break their Squawkers. Destroying these will give you the Fragments to build your own Seeder with Tuvalkane.
With every Thawtide Hunter defeated, their levels will increase across Midrath.
i'm pretty sure the level increase isnt working, I've killed like 10+ of them and they're still level 10
if I accidentally bought two Maestro's, will the 2nd one be of any use or should I just sell it to NPC?
Maybe I'm just being silly but like I don't need 50% smite. Like I don't get hit that much yet so like I'm only using it maybe twice in a single fight of like 1v6?
Second will not be useful unless you want two with different attunements
But why buy them instead of farming the event?
Big Hype?
Oh yeah that makes sense now
There's also a pact perk that increases pact damage
considering all the runes need a smite to get activated it does matter to have as higher smite % as possible
You can just do massive damage to a whole field while becoming immortal
Also, yeah, runes
birds are made out of brass apparently
isnt that the armor piece though xD>?
moras hand got better?
It got buffed at the start of p12
No updates in the patch notes for Thawtide
Am I that boring and old fashioned? I'm just kind of....."Okay so you're there, you're there, and you're there. I'll get you first and then the rest is cake." All the while I'm doing all that I'm just kind of....... Well, two of them are already dead by the time I'm done strategizing. So like how high up do the enemy levels go? Because I start struggling at around say 30 and then pretty much instadie at about 36
Nothing happens, I just kind of... gesture without my weapon.
No notes for Thawtide
🙁
the pact changes on the latest update for the people that dont know where to look
If an enemy is glowing it will perform a smite
But otherwise you're trying to pull nothing
Ahhhh!
i hate etheldred XD
dosent count for bow anymore??
No, it works for everyone
It was bugged to not work in multiplayer
You know something that they still didn't fix with the wolf? If you don't attack when in wolf form if you're just traveling then you end up teleporting back to your original position of casting which I hate. I wish it was just an automatic teleport so you can travel faster. What's the point of having a travel form if you can't travel with it?
aahh okay
what they didnt add is an actual timer to know how far you can move xD
Yeah that was my other suggestion
This game kinda reminds me of Warframe in its systems, have y'all played that before?
like really is it hard to make the ability orb tick down?
i mean i see nothing but thethren still top1 pact
Wow
for burst dmg yes
So were you actually being serious or is this a joke? Because I can tell you the genuine answer if...
Where did my feeder go? I assembled it but it's not in my inventory
Same devs
It was a bad joke
I wouldn't say it was a bad joke but I was genuinely concerned
I'm just seeing how confusing and convuluted (not necessarily in a bad way) the systems are and I'm remembering first starting out in WF.
And then suddenly I realized that there's going to be a bunch of people that are just playing soul frame and never played Warframe before.... The realization hit me like a brick
- no more op bow shots you gotta go melee xD
is there a tldr for the patch notes? XD
i sitll made like 2-3k
???
That says it will work on ranged weapons in multiplayer now
oh wait
i read it wrong xD
Cowards afraid to get up close and personal? 🤣
Just kidding
lol...i see that the new bow that was shared is new
Do you guys think DE should add a classroom tale to the game? Teach basic reading skills or something?
yes, i talk weird
Bruh what?
Not to trigger anybody but English isn't even a language
English is a frankenstein's monster of a language
gotta combat the allegations that their players are illiterate
well first bug I used the seeder and got stuck in an animation which i cant do anything else from
What they said
Hey @sly escarp can I PM you a question?
If you like
So a language 
BIRB
I know I still have so much to learn about this game but like....... I need a better laptop.
It would be funny if they make us learn Envoy/Orokin script and then do all patch notes and in game language that way
Is it just because the bird skin is new or do a lot of people prefer Cardinals over other birds?
the bow description sounds like it will call birds to attack your target
DO NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS
did you see the patch notes? theres a new update
Yeah I saw.... I haven't been on soul frame in about 5 days due to Warframe events
I wish I could be in two places at once. I really do
not gonna lie...would be KINDA cool...but i wanna focus on japanese 
hey i got a question whats i need to play the game like rtx 5090 or a 1080
you can, just do the dailies in soul frame since you most likely finished everything already then go to warframe and do the stuff there
There's dailies? 😑
well for starters, you can get the daily seed for teleport
and if i buy a pack will i get a key in hours ? or in days ?
THERE'S A TELEPORT?!?!?
quick travel?
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN A THING? I'VE BEEN DREADING RUNNING AROUND THE FREAKING ISLAND
why am I a founder and I know absolutely nothing?
You get 1-3 consumables every 12 hours
Since p12
it gets unlocked after you complete bear pact story
Oh okay so at least I've only been able to use it for about a week
In-game hours or IRL hours?
Irl hours
Sheit
that scraggly tree should probably glow or something. too many people miss it
So like where do I get.....these....... How do I do dailies in soul frame? Is it automatic like whenever you log into Warframe or is it like....
Where do we go to do the new stuff in the game?
So you run around doing stuff and then you get blueprints and then you have to craft them after you meet a blacksmith ancestor which is a main quest that you get after a certain point
That's all I could gather
The patchnotes tell you. #1450925896126038157 message
is it me or Tethren 1st isn't working anymore? Sometimes i get damage and most of the time I don't get bonus damage
I play on a 3090 with a Ryzen from like 2020...so not horrible but not cutting edge. Runs just fine on max settings.
Ok cool I have all the stuff in the game so far. Just logged in to do the new stuff and don’t see anything yet.
well the mini bosses spawn every 3 hours...as for the other stuff i may have misspoke 😔
Now 30 min 🙂
So here's a reminder just in case but you probably already know this. If you miss you waste two charges instead of one. Also apparently it got nerfed recently
Everyone keeps talking about these many bosses and I don't know what the world many bosses are. I don't know what bosses are. I just kill everything that I see
Literally
thank goodness we can't accidentally kill animals cuz oh my God the blood on my digital hands
We need SaraLovesArchery to break down the thaw tide stuff into clear no-nonsense.
yeah nerfs i know, but sometimes on some ranged weapons it has no bonus damage even on first few hits. Maybe it think I hit and aim at different person so it counts as miss...
Idk
If in coop do not use the seeder at the same time you will get TP’d and one person will get stuck infinitely in the animation
She literally just did for 15 minutes shes streaming
Say, do the bosses spawn if you're in solo? Cuz I haven't done anything but solo
maybe AoE totem messes it up..
I don't know if that matters
Sweet I will try to catch it
but it was ok before
Yes they spawn, I've only played solo and run into several.
oo they added loadout slots
Are the new bow and primary dagger event only, or will they drop afterwards if you don't get all the fragments?
She now showing locations for the new bow and how the event works and new rune locations
They've had those for a while now actually but I would not recommend using them because there seems to be a bug between swapping from one class to another class within the loadouts. Because you can change the amount of Grace and spirit and stuff, but it kind of bugs out and gives you a random default number every time you swap so you have to redo that every time you swap to a new load out
Unless they fixed to this I don't know wasn't working a week ago
i mean in the premium shop
on the website map you will find the mini bosses at these locations
Oh
did they update cogah to show locations of the dungeon bosses?
Has anyone gotten helm/weapon fragments from event yet? Only getting top/bottoms
i honestly dont know anything about it
the helm drops after the enemies are level 15 and 30
Then why respond 🤣
hoping for some help XD
I wonder if they messed up the scaling then, patch notes says they scale up slowly
I'll roam east side and see if I can get theo ther fragments
or cogah it
im in cogah, it doesnt effect them
yea even east side is level 10, I haven't seen anyhting above level 12...
Probably bugged currently.
Completely random I'm just opening up soul frame because I felt like I should probably play a little bit more since I've been on Warframe the last 5 days and I just realized my tongue is burned but I don't know when I burnt it
Oooo, 2 GB
You drink coffee?
I do. But I haven't eaten or drank anything today yet
Any hot drink?