gameplay-discussion

[smoky crater]

do you have anything on your map

like an objective circle or something

[smoky crater]

a

try going into nightfold and back out maybe?

[autumn egret]

i mean i restarted the game because i thought it was bugged but i think im where im meant to be I just need to do something....

[regal shadow]

Go to that white circle thing on your screenshot, pretty sure that's where you're supposed to go

[autumn egret]

thx ill give it a go

[autumn musk]

about 4 hours glades chest run 70 sappheline 80 moramora 200 scraps 0 gathanan frag

tell me im not crazy please it exist right

[regal shadow]

Try crypts, some rooms have puzzles in them that reveal a hidden passage to a rare chest, I got a few fragments from there before

Keep your soul mode active, it'll highlight interactibles

[autumn musk]

p12 ?

ive done about 17 crpyt chest run

none aswell

[regal shadow]

Nah, was p11, it's possible the drops are bugged I suppose

[distant sun]

If I change a weapon’s scaling, say from spirit to courage, will its scaling be downgraded? Like from 2 spirit icons to 1 courage icon?

[autumn musk]

follows the weapon

[civic heath]

How do we currently get around that once your virtue gets to 25 if you go higher you can lose all of it?

[distant sun]

What do you mean?

[brave wing]

hi, i just found one of those little statues that you have to play the flute to awaken them and I got a memory where a beaver rescue me (i think it was me when i was a child) and then some old man picked me up. I'm a new player and still confused, how can I progress this (no spoilers pls)? Do I need to find clues around? I followed the river up stream but seems there's nothing

[smoky crater]

there's 2 more similar tree stumps with a broken statue on top that show you the 2 other memories, always in the same spots, in the starting area-ish

the 2nd one is ||near the westcoast, next to a hut||
and the 3rd one is ||either in a pond just west from Mines of Borro, or in the village next to the College of Pensives||

[worthy chasm]

yall know where to farm for river pearls? I cant seem to find any

[slim cosmos]

honestly, I get most of mine from spamming 3 star tales

[hazy vapor]

Kith of Kings enclave, follow the river up and down, should net you around 2-4 pearls, also doing bounties can get you them. Otherwise just following water ways can get you a good handful. Also if you see our favorite Avakot, he has a chance to sell them.

[lilac lava]

whats up with the big ship? is that an event?

[brave wing]

ill try to find them, ty

[signal parcel]

what this?

[brazen sparrow]

just set dressing. for now anyway. You mean the ship on the rocks? or the ship in the sky?

[hazy vapor]

Yeah it's a world event, if you survive the waves and beat Nimrod, he can drop any item from all the world bosses.

[smoky crater]

follow bird 👀

[lilac lava]

wow cool

[signal parcel]

ohh quest part, got u

[lilac lava]

how many waves tho?

[signal parcel]

i will miss the giga power that mora gave me

that permanent fire buff was awesome

[smoky crater]

3-5 i think? i forget + haven't done it post P12 yet

[lilac lava]

ight thx

[hazy vapor]

It's not gone forever. It's something attached to a pact and also an upgrade for when you unlock runes. So you can join the rest of us weirdos screaming about the hand of mora and burning cassids.

[hazy vapor]

not sure, i think it's around 5. It's not too bad in a group, and manageable with good target priority in solo. ie: Kill the healers and berserkers before getting nuked by grenades c:

[lilac lava]

yeah, I hate those guys they give me a hard time

[brave wing]

im noticing that i gather totems but they don't go into my inventory. any idea why?

[lilac lava]

its a bug, happened to me also

[wraith badge]

what does this even mean

[brave wing]

so, any fix? what can i do?

[lilac lava]

id stop picking up items and relog in

[brave wing]

strange. for example i opened 2 cages now and i got them

[hazy vapor]

Oh, splinter I think is when the hail of arrows drop and explode from charged shots. But that wording seems jank. Which totem is that?

[subtle moss]

I have done an endless room now, could it be that you only get pact XP now? I leveled Tethren from 20 to 30 and after that Juniper is still at lvl 6 🤔

[lilac lava]

yeah it happens, and sometimes when i craft, the items return lol

[hasty parrot]

Guys !?
On an Oscelda bow build, wich bow would you use?

[rain abyss]

What weapons is everyone enjoy so far?

[wraith badge]

I upgraded it, but even unranked it still showed the same 1 in 0 stat

[hazy vapor]

oscleda wants a bit of everything so you're pretty flexible on bows. But arguably the Juniper is the best bow.

[rain abyss]

Juniper

[deft escarp]

anyone else having more and more woodland critters sleeping on the login screen each time?

[hazy vapor]

Ohhh this is a new totem, yeah no idk if the blue section of that actually works rn.

[smoky crater]

that happens on consecutive login days yeah

[deft escarp]

oooooooooh, thats whats causing it

cute

[lone lotus]

Is the leveling room in Dermak the same tile as the dungeon Agari fights, just without the Agari?

[hazy vapor]

My top weapons for fun rn:
SNS: Oryn Umber, build for shield throws
Any of the bows are good fun
Polearms: The Duhk Halic cuz you get it for unlocking all the world trees, which was a fun adventure.
Unlikely pick: The Stultan, because of the funny moveset and short range.

[smoky crater]

does it actually work nowadays? 👀
it was disabled for quite a while

[wet portal]

so infinite stagger??

[lone lotus]

What about the one in Glade? I saw a video of that one from a few days ago.

[hazy vapor]

Leveling room now is in the Glades with the thiccc ghostwood dudes.

[smoky crater]

the original one existed in dermak but then the glades got one aswell, then the dermak one bugged out, then it got disabled, glades one still works

[north torrent]

I play some hours, i find the "blacksmith" and i'm still with the started gear. how can i upgrade something?

[brazen sparrow]

same tile, even

[lone lotus]

I believe you have to trade off smites so you get a mix of frame XP and general party xp, correct?

[wet portal]

dune 3

[hazy vapor]

Hunt world bosses, dive into dungeons, do T2+ bounties for gear, gain more rep, hit rank 5 grinds for the stuff you want from your faction.

[smoky crater]

maybe? 👀
sounds like what i've heard from others. i haven't done the arena stuff in like over a year

[deft tundra]

Is it "worth" buying stocking up 100x resources from Avakot?

[brave wing]

@smoky crater did you mean that near this statue I can find the 2 others for the memory of the beaver and the old man?

[smoky crater]

yes

wait no

[brave wing]

umm, they are very hidden or what

[hazy vapor]

I find myself only buying the scrap metals and the rare mats, the rest of the stuff you can get from just breaking stuff in the dungeon or beating up enemies.

[smoky crater]

so... the 2nd one is ||on the westcoast next to a hut.|| and the 3rd is ||in the village next to the tall tower you find Orlick in at the start.||
not close to that one but not like all the way on the otherside of the map.

[hazy vapor]

yeah cuz of how the kills are working and the new xp share system. Killing the ghost souls, gives only pact xp to the slayer, but gives xp to everyone else. So alternate the kills between the group.

[smoky crater]

ah ok

[sullen crane]

I'm trying to get in with the silent rose and it says I don't have the item for it. I look at my blacksmith and I need a sacred shimmer... isn't that only bought from merchants... like the one in the silent rose?

[brave wing]

i don't even know how far is the coast haha. i don't have all the map revealed. the trees is quite tricky to find

dont worry, ill keep exploring

[smoky crater]

just head west and a tiiiiny bit south from where you found the statue in the lake

[lilac lava]

why vadagar stag not spawning? even if its night

[smoky crater]

doesn't always spawn in the same spots

[lilac lava]

so its random and only one spawns?

[smoky crater]

there are multiple spawn locations for the stag yes

[hazy vapor]

Sacred shimmer is from your enclave, you craft the amulet of the enclave you want to join and I think you have to be a min of rank 3 in your current enclave to get shimmer.

[lilac lava]

so I have to find him every night??

[smoky crater]

or you can also find him at the end of 2 or 3 star faction tales

[sullen crane]

Ah, thank you. I was a little confused and wondered if I messed something up. Almost there then. Half way to rank 3

[hazy vapor]

yeah if you wanna farm stag, do t2/t3 bounties. Avoid the SE area of the map with the wasteland, stag spawns in t3 missions there are bugging out. I ran a couple with some friends and we had to keep abandoning cuz the stag wasnt spawning. But haven't had issues with spawning them elsewhere.

[shell bolt]

Hey anyone having a weird issue with Bromius? I can't use my basic attacks after I use rump thump, it only happens something and I have to go back to my soul hole and back again to make it work

It's just from the new update, it worked fine before

[fierce terrace]

i feel like the game hasnt properly told me who lady deora is

[lilac lava]

i did he didnt spawn

[fierce terrace]

its just some random lady that shows up on my screen and talks

[smoky crater]

it's not guaranteed...

[tropic nacelle]

What's the weapon leveling equivalent of ESO in this game?

[lilac lava]

oh... so all I can do is abandon the quest?

[smoky crater]

or just finish it

[autumn musk]

glades endless

[high forge]

Endless, glades of andurin

[lilac lava]

how can i finish it if the stag didnt spawn?

[signal parcel]

where's a tree around here?

[smoky crater]

somewhere around there

[signal parcel]

xdd

[hollow turret]

how does cogah boss-sharing work?

[kindred thistle]

im just killing stuff, i dont know where to go next

am i post to kill stuff?

[vagrant kayak]

A lot of objectives involve killing stuff but there are also Fables to find and bosses to fight

[kindred thistle]

im not getting a direction towards a story or anything

[keen pasture]

how do i get the cogah

[fierce terrace]

i do not understand this bloody stag puzzle

[hazy vapor]

After you reach Rank 2 with a certain brewer in your nightfold, and you’ve completed the Bear quest, you should have the recipe to craft Cogah.

[fierce terrace]

i match the stags to the direction the heads show in soul mode and nothing happens

[hazy vapor]

Look at the paintings, match the heads with the painting’s directions.

[fierce terrace]

wtf how was that the actual solution

that made no sense

the directions dont match what it shows

3 of them all look like they should point forwards

[vagrant kayak]

If you use Spectral Sight it shows the directions more clearly

[keen pasture]

rank 2 huh

thank you

[hazy vapor]

I actually didn’t know that. Thanks Howl.

[vagrant kayak]

Most Fables are standalone and can be done in any order, after the initial quests the game won't guide you to the other Fables, you'll have to explore the world and look for out of place things.

As a hint:
To start Shewolf Snared, find a small red balloon
To start Brewer of Hues find an upset rat

[kindred thistle]

oh one more thing, does anyone have the map for all the trees location?

[vagrant kayak]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/ should be up to date

Personally I'd advise finding them without it but it is available!

[near grail]

hey guys, we need to buy a founder pack to play ?

[exotic gale]

What do i need to do when the enemy has grey bar? all my weapons and pacts are lvl 30

[opal fable]

where do steel singer armor parts drop?

[hazy vapor]

Nope just need a key to get in. And you can play for free. I think every weekend, you can earn a key from watching someone stream. Someone correct me if I’m wrong and that has expired.

[signal parcel]

what i do buy with 150 arcs?
and whats pact and weapon capacity?

[near grail]

ok nice ty, i'll try

[fierce terrace]

the audio balancing in this game is super off

i could barely hear the npc talking in the cutscene because the music was so loud

and ive already turned down the audio slider

[signal parcel]

also this

[blazing swift]

speaking of capacity. why do we only get 1 weapon slot with the purchase as opposed to warframe's 2

[amber thorn]

Probably best to buy slots when needed for now, as everything else in the capitalist camel's shop can be farmed for free(except from the founder packs items)

[blazing swift]

:c

[fierce terrace]

unfun fact

[zinc sand]

can someone help me unlock the dye lady

[fierce terrace]

if you got access to soulframe before prelude 11 you have 21 weapon slots and 6 pact slots

[hazy vapor]

Usually the grey means they’re armored. Using heavy attacks can break that. Or it means you aren’t meeting the stat requirements for your weapon if you’re seeing low numbers. Also sometimes your dmg can just go full jank and you’ll want to relog to make sure it’s doing what it’s supposed to do.

[fierce terrace]

if you got access after prelude 11 you have 6 weapon slots and 3 pact slots

[blazing swift]

wow that's a yikes

[amber thorn]

So that's why I didn't get prompted to get more slots yet 😮

[fierce terrace]

and the people who started early get to keep their extra slots

[blazing swift]

I've been in preludes for years so had to buy first slots today

[fierce terrace]

idk if they are gonna get to keep them when the full game releases but they might

[storm dust]

Anyone did the castle seige yet?

[visual quarry]

Anyone got Gathannan fragment from t2 or t3 Alca's Children tale? I farmed like 4 days i got nothing.

[fierce terrace]

idk what fragments are

i have the garen rood pact in my inventory but i cant equip it for some reason

[amber thorn]

Soulframe's equivalent to blueprints for items

[restive apex]

I have too many weapons built that I need to level. I refuse to do endless. What is the best method of leveling weapons? I have mostly been doing faction tells to unlock the final pact in the game Mora's Hand but that still seems slow for weapon experience.

[hazy vapor]

Gotta build it at your smithy.

[signal parcel]

i do

[high forge]

There are two other factions with their own pacts if memory serves right

[hazy vapor]

The level of the enemies also affects your XP gain. If you head into higher level areas like the swamp in the NE of the map and do bounties there, you’ll level faster.

[civic heath]

use bear pact butt stomp

run t3 bountys in the far north

[restive apex]

Yeah, I already got those

[civic heath]

focus only objective

[restive apex]

I have been in the northeast to do faction tales. Does using abilities to kill over using weapons mean more experience for weapons? I do not have a problem killing enemy camps quickly

[hazy vapor]

Yeah it’s using WF’s leveling system so the method you use to kill affects XP, I recommend running in a group if you want as much XP across the board. Cuz kills they make give you XP regardless of the method.

[cursive veldt]

I believe the breakdown is:

• Weapon kills: 50%/50% split between the weapon that made the kill and the equipped pact
• Pact kills: 100% to pact, 0% to weapons
• Squad kills: evenly distributed between your equipped items

[restive apex]

So no bromius stomp lol

[loud relic]

Does anyone know how to open the bookshelf hidden door in the siegeable Fort?

[rich dune]

I have a question about Hard Mode. Let's say I used my last elixir and couldn't kill the Agari and didn't get any Fly Agarics from them. How do I craft a Cogah and get into Hard Mode so I can farm Fly Agarics for production? 🤔

[hazy vapor]

It’s a dungeon exit.

[keen pasture]

has anyone else experienced not actually getting a totem after capturing the animal?

[cursive veldt]

if you're in a squad and everyone is using Bromius Stomp, then it works -- but alone, no

[civic heath]

yup

[hazy vapor]

Yeah, relog. Also some new totems are just not showing up. Could be those as well.

[keen pasture]

it just showed that it gave me a squirrel totem for magick yet i don't have it

[keen pasture]

alright bet

[restive apex]

There are a few that are broken. My theory is that they are not supposed to be in the game yet. I keep getting a magic duck called The Current and I have never seen it and compendium says 15/15 already collected.

[hazy vapor]

Someone has a thread in the bug tracking about the new totems that are affected.

[lilac lava]

is there an efficient way to farm dracs

i ran out of dracs lol

[restive apex]

You get the mushrooms from the bosses in normal mode

[hazy vapor]

Break things in the dungeon, open chests, kill things.

[keen pasture]

relogged, still don't have it

[cursive veldt]

drops have been reliably janky for months tbh, it's not a huge surprise that totems are suffering too

tis a bit of an annoyance tho

[rich dune]

Oh. Did they drop it too? Got it. Thanks!

[restive apex]

Pots in the crypt are a good source, or at least used to be. I just broke 110K dracs yesterday and have nothing to really buy

[alpine coral]

Hi, very new to this game. I started off by picking Tethren/courage, but have decided I want to play as Oscelda so have switched my pact. How do I now go about joining the spirit faction instead? Alca’s children I believe it’s called?

[next rampart]

did they change where the juniper bow fragments are?

[lilac lava]

alr ill try that

[keen pasture]

yeah i got scammed it's joever

[lilac lava]

tysm

[next rampart]

avakot.org soulmap has it in a different location than a lot of other resources do and i wasnt sure if it changed where the fragments are

[cursive veldt]

I don't think so; they do require you to actually interact with them rather than simply playing music though, and sometimes they break

[next rampart]

avakot.org has the bow fragments in these 3 locations

but other resources i've seen on google have it here

are they the exact same?

[rich dune]

[P12H7] Can anyone confirm that the Runes "Alca's Breath" and "The Torrent" (Cogah) drop from Gruul Seeker Ruthos?

[next rampart]

seems like it, ignore me lol

[hazy vapor]

Is the bow guy with the dogs, cuz yes. I’ve gotten Torrent from him. But my Alca’s Breath have all been from the spider boss.

[cursive veldt]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Join_Preludes

[tropic nacelle]

Bro had to use ai to write this

[rich dune]

So The Torrent you got was from Cougah mode or Regular?

[uncut salmon]

Do weapons level faster if you only have 1 equipped like Warframe?

[hazy vapor]

Cogah, I don’t think Torrent drops from regular. Same with the alternate runes.

[tropic nacelle]

Ohhhh make sennse

Ma bad homie

[cursive veldt]

Você pode obter uma chave vinculando sua Conta Soulframe ao Twitch e assistindo à transmissão. (Traduzido por máquina)

(Machine translation)

[rich dune]

And what about Alca’s Breath from Spider? It was in P12? Or you got it earlier?

[uncut salmon]

mfn chalk zone?

[sterile pine]

RUDYS GOT THE CHALK THE CHALK THATS FROM CHALK ZONE

[tropic nacelle]

Hell yeah

[cursive veldt]

i should probably have sent that by DM since this server is english-only

eh, it's obviously nothing rude

[tropic nacelle]

Such beautiful childhood istg

[signal parcel]

are these useful?

[sterile pine]

Kid me used to hope I’d find magic chalk

[amber thorn]

I got that one from regular doggo bow guy in P12

[signal parcel]

for a tethren

[rich dune]

Hmm. Okay. Thx for info 👍🏻

[tropic nacelle]

What if I don't use it till like 5 years go by?

[sterile pine]

Flower is flower

[amber thorn]

Should probably dry it nicely or it will look like shit after a while

[hazy vapor]

P11, was for Alca’s Breath but my friend who started in P12 got Alca’s from the bow guy a couple of days ago.

[gritty cedar]

Hey all,
just a question,
Soulframes sending keys often by email ? or its rare
thanks

[hard bluff]

Hey guys, just wanted to confirm but when you join someone, only their quests can advance right? Like you are in their session and their story essentially right?

[vagrant kayak]

2000 invites are sent out each week

[gritty cedar]

Ok thank you

[hazy vapor]

It applies for you too. If you’re both on the same quest.

[hard bluff]

So you have to make sure you are at the same qpot in the story if you wanna advance together?

[heady barn]

Just wanted to check before I spend too much time trying to find my own work around. But I am 50 points away from my next faction rank up. I have done a few one stars and a few 3 stars but don't seem to be getting any rep. Is there a known issue there? I relogged and waiting for a tale to appear but was curious if I need to spend down or anything

[cursive veldt]

If you get access by email, you will sometimes simply receive a notice that you have been granted access rather than receiving a key. In that case, you can simply download and log in

[waxen haven]

Soul mode should highlight Avakot and his buds.

[hazy vapor]

You probably hit daily standing cap. It’s 16k points a day I believe

[kindred cobalt]

finished all the quests finally, what should i look forward to do next? (i tried to do oro's well but dont know what to do there)

[cursive veldt]

avakot doesn't have a soul, everyone knows that!

[gritty cedar]

Just register today so i will wait next week ^^ , but thanks for your answer

[blissful vine]

Can't you play this yet?

[heady barn]

Aww man that may be it I played quite a bit last night... and 50 away >.>

[waxen haven]

Well that just won't do, time to find a donor smh

[blissful vine]

I saw the ad on tiktok

[waxen haven]

I'm sure the Oden won't mind giving their souls for a worthy cause, let me just ask them nicely.

With a dagger.

[livid spindle]

I'm confused too - I haven't seen ANY tales or gained any faction quests. How do they start?

[cursive veldt]

you can join the waitlist and get in for free via random inv or Twitch drop, or you can purchase Founders for instant access

[hazy vapor]

Yes, you want to be on the same quest if you wanna advance together, but even if you aren’t, you can still help them. You just might have to rewatch some cut scenes if you’re already ahead.

[heady barn]

I think you get your first faction after beating the Stag but you might need to find a note to initiate it

[livid spindle]

Yeah I did that, I'm in the Crimson whatevers, but the woman's dialog never changes, and I get no access to quests

[cursive veldt]

I believe you should have a map marker for this, but the note is easy to miss

[high forge]

Are you looking to play?

[livid spindle]

I'm just stuck at 500 rep and can't get more, and have no idea where to go to get quests from them

[heady barn]

Markers randomly appear on the map at least for the Rose

[vagrant kayak]

You'll get Faction Tales spawning randomly in the overworld once you've chatted with Deora, you don't get them directly from her

[somber knot]

how do you see your faction rep ?

[livid spindle]

:/ So I'm just unlucky for like a week straight? hahahaha

[blissful vine]

Yes, I saw a guy playing it and saying it was already available, but I don't think it's yet

[regal spire]

Which Pact did you start with? Tethren, or the others i don't remember?

[high forge]

Lemme DM you real quick

[cursive veldt]

at the end of the day your total should appear, or you can go visit your faction rep

[vagrant kayak]

No Tales for a week is definitely not normal, do you have an active Fable?

[somber knot]

thanks

[heady barn]

Dunno I see a good number unless I have hit my cap with the faction which initially I think is 5k if you hit that you need to ask to go to the next rank or spend some. They seem to spawn way less if your capped

[gritty cedar]

@cursive veldt if i can ask you, someone on twitch give me a code, i try to enter on the site, i have download the game and when i want log ingame , its write:This account has not yet received an invitation to soulframes preludes

[vagrant kayak]

There's 4 ways to get in right now:

• Be invited on Wednesday, this comes with 4 friend codes
• Buy a Founder pack, this comes with 2 or 10 friend codes depending on pack
• Redeem a friend code, this just gets you access, no additional codes
• Watch a devstream/Envoy Hour that has Twitch Drops enabled, these get you access the same way redeeming a code would. And if you already had access, watching will get you another friend code

[jovial arrow]

how can i enter the beta test?

[vague widget]

what is damage based on?

[livid spindle]

I'm on the quest to fight the bear, but I'm basically soft-locked there because I'm too squishy to heal through his DoT and can't beat him

so just kind of wandering, trying to get stronger

[vagrant kayak]

Ah, Waste Bear will disable Faction Tales while it's active, once you clear it they should appear again

[heady barn]

Does the "day" reset at 7pm Eastern like Warframe?

[vagrant kayak]

Daily reset is the same time IIRC yes

[vague widget]

@regal spire where

[cursive veldt]

I've heard the same from a number of people, so there seem to be some ongoing issues with logging in; I'd recommend reaching out to Support

[regal spire]

Phone replied to the wrong person. Sorry

[heady barn]

Should be able to find some help if you need it

[vagrant kayak]

That's a broad question weapon damage is based on weapon stats, weapon level, Joinery and Virtue scaling, Pact ability damage is mostly based on Courage Virtue

[vague widget]

mostly damage wepon

[regal spire]

Read the msg just above yours to find out how to join this games test.

[cursive veldt]

https://wiki.avakot.org/join_preludes

ah damn i typed it wrong

there we go

[livid spindle]

OHHHH okay that makes sense kind of hahaha

[cursive veldt]

i might as well be a bot that posts that link every five minutes

[livid spindle]

hopefully once I can kill his punk ass, can get started on factions xD

[hazy vapor]

Thanks ffernbot.

[cursive veldt]

thank you, fleshbag

[exotic gale]

lovely, it deleted my cogah potion after picking up a new one

im guessing you can't hold more than 1 cogah potion

[hazy vapor]

You can hold quite a number of them. If stuff is going missing from your inventory, it might be time to relog.

[cursive veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-gif-8607749

[exotic gale]

already relogged. lost the potion 🙁

[cursive veldt]

RIP

[uncut salmon]

I need the acorns to have a timer of 23 hours... As is I only get one every other day

[gentle violet]

how do I use the color pallete I got from the founder's pack?

[hazy vapor]

RIP Cogah potion, time to gather more sap.

[high forge]

Same thing happened when testing it, decided to keep it brewing till I use one before claiming

[slender pulsar]

am i supposed to buy garren rood from avakot? lol

[cursive veldt]

all pacts are obtainable without purchasing

except Wylds ofc

you obtain fragments and then build them at the blacksmith

[copper gorge]

Is there a map for finding out ancestors

[hazy vapor]

Just head over to our favorite brewer of hues, and you should have the colors ready to use. If they aren’t there, you might want to contact support.

[slender pulsar]

okiedoki got confused bc 2nd avakot appeared right after the story

[gentle violet]

and where is that brewer of hues lol
I started yesterday

[high forge]

Avakot is a scammer, they give you items you really want but find it hard to farm to make it easier for high prices

[hazy vapor]

In the Nightfold, if you haven’t unlocked her services, you want to start the quest Brewer of Hues.

[cursive veldt]

Brewer of Hues is an Ancestor Fable -- you can start it by ||looking for the dungeon entrance south of the big fort/castle near the center-west of the map||

[tacit eagle]

Where do i go to plant my flowers?

[charred lagoon]

FOUNDER SIREN ACQUIRED

[hazy vapor]

Ffern, you’re the best nonbot bot.

[vagrant kayak]

There's a note in the Nightfold right of the hollow tree that has a hint

||Play the music emote while in the Nightfold||

[tacit eagle]

Oh the note to the right of the tree?

[wheat dust]

firee

[wheat dust]

how many fables are there ?
||so far i got the journal guy, the blacksmith, and the witch lady||

[halcyon thicket]

One more fable

[vagrant kayak]

There should be 2 more then

One of which follows from Brewer of Hues

[wheat dust]

ok sick

[cursive veldt]

oh, the witch lady is Verminia, so you must have already completed Brewer

there are three non-Ancestor fables, if I recall correctly, all related to pacts

[main siren]

brother i have question if i buy osceldar pack then buy paragon pack will sale for me ?

[wheat dust]

I did the one which got me the ||puppy||, just need to grind out the mats for the pact now

[kindred thistle]

whats the purpose of lvling kith of kings, piz someone tell me

[cursive veldt]

nice, then you should have one left

[hazy vapor]

Yes, if you buy one pack, the Paragon pack will be discounted.

[wheat dust]

they lower the price so you would pay the difference

[wheat dust]

I got 2 for the friend codes 😭

[cursive veldt]

you can unlock higher-tier gear fragments for purchase with Standing

[main siren]

@hazy vapor sure brother ? i dont have much money ty for answer

[slender pulsar]

ohhh thats nice to know about the founder's paragon pack discount. wanted the birb

[wheat dust]

ye

they just make you pay the diff, so if you buy all 3 individually for example you would only have to pay 10 for paragon since thats the diff

[hazy vapor]

I’m in the same boat, I bought my Wyld Tethren for 30 so my Paragon is only 70 instead of the 100. Prices may vary by region.

[main siren]

ty brother that good for me

i m so happy

[wheat dust]

sirin is so awesome i should have started with it
didnt realize how cool stealth archer could be

[cursive veldt]

stealth archer is peak in every game

[hazy vapor]

Enjoy the game, glad to have you here Envoy.

[quiet mesa]

Hi everyone, is there any possible information on when the stream with access distribution to the Soul Frame will be, or have I already missed everything?

[heavy pelican]

Is there something wrong with Synod's Maiden drop rates? Its supposed toı be common loot on corrupted landmarks but I can barely find any.

[potent valley]

Me using it as a stealth melee

[exotic gale]

does sap respawn at logout?

[hazy vapor]

If you go to the wasteland with the fallen tower, scrounge around the outskirt’s edge, should be plenty of them. If they aren’t showing up, relaunch/relog.

[tidal pecan]

It seems to only work for pacts now

[hazy vapor]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Join_Preludes
everything you need to know

[heavy pelican]

You mean Galvinar Wastes where the Knell Knight is located right?

[signal parcel]

whats the stronget long sword?

still didnt get it how that works

[hazy vapor]

Mendicant King’s area I think is better. Never could find more than 4-5 where Knell Knight is.

[tidal pecan]

I got my key begging here. People on envoy-gathering said it takes a long time to get a key the normal way

[vague widget]

does tethren give a debuff?

[heavy pelican]

Southwest mendicant king or southeast?

[hazy vapor]

Tethren taunts which is the only debuff I guess, otherwise it buffs you.

[hazy vapor]

I’ve farmed all of mine from the Southwest, where the actual boss fight is.

[heavy pelican]

oh alright, I'll try and look thanks!,

[foggy flare]

Hi, is this a good place to ask stoopid noob questions? Or is there a farming and progression guide somewhere?

[paper sierra]

Playing since yesterday...will I ever meet other ppl ingame?

[exotic gale]

Ask your stupid noob question, you noob 😛

[edgy sigil]

no

not unless you go to your faction enclave, the eternium gardens, or squad up with people

[paper sierra]

Thx...

[honest rock]

companion cube

[hazy vapor]

Feel free to ask

[foggy flare]

Thanks!
So I've played several hours and unlocked several ancestors. I ahve no more main quests. What now?
I've unlocked a couple weapons, but no new pacts, or armor or whatever.
How do I get more fragments, where do I go to grind?

[charred lagoon]

Also the SPONGEBOB REFERENCE FOR THE BOW SKILL

[exotic gale]

https://buddy.avakot.org/
Here's a good place to see where get fragments for each weapon, pact, talismans, armor

[foggy flare]

Also, can I/should I reforge low level weapons? And can you reforge as many time as you want, stacking bonuses?

[hazy vapor]

Time to do bounties for your Enclave, kill some world bosses, and check the requirements to build your new pacts from the quests via the smithy.

[charred lagoon]

Who ever did that Reference Props

[teal radish]

I just wished they would fix the Faction grind. Getting 100 xp per faction bounty is really nuts, when the first rank up requires 5000 xp! Thats 50 bounties for just the first rank alone.

[foggy flare]

I want fragments, or whatever I need to unlock the other 2 starting pacts.

[foggy flare]

I read it is dependent on the number of stars, and the level. If you go to a higher level area, a 3 star faction quest is up to 500xp.

[hazy vapor]

Yes, feel free to use joineries. The only ones you should think about using are the ones that change the scaling from let’s say courage to grace or whatever. Because those will reset the level of your weapon.

[exotic gale]

You can reforge as many times as you want using joineries. You get so many of them, so it's not really a big deal if you use them on low level weapons. I would hold off on using "Blessed" joineries on weapons you don't intend to use

[vague widget]

1st with tethren equiped 2nd with oscelds equiped?

[teal radish]

Which you can forget as a low level melee player. But then there is also the problem that you loose several hundred XP per day. I had built up 1800 xp 2 days ago and when I logged back in yesterday I was down to 1100 xp! Why add that level of punishment on top the already increased grind with Prelude 12

[edgy sigil]

the pact equipped doesn't matter, it's your virtues that determine that

[paper sierra]

So its basically a single player game with grp activities?

[foggy flare]

Wait, do you really loose XP per day? That doesn't seem right.

[harsh wasp]

can any one pm me with a good bow build in general i have no idea what would work well together

[hazy vapor]

You can do co-op all the way through. In fact I’d encourage people to do quests as a group for the fun.

[exotic gale]

ppl smell tho

[hazy vapor]

And it doesn’t matter if someone has already finished the quest. They can still participate.

[foggy flare]

Yes, melee is hard, and you won't do the 500xp immediately. I agree this grind is insane and should be 10x less. But it gets a bit better at high level.

[paper sierra]

Thx

[kindred thistle]

what does this do?

[teal radish]

Yep I have been losing XP constantly. At first I thought my character was bugged as it looked like I was not gaining any XP, but now I found out I am just losing build-up faction XP each day. 🙁

[foggy flare]

You gain +1 grace in your stats... I believe.

[hazy vapor]

You might want to contact support about that, that’s not normal. You’re not supposed to lose faction XP

[sterile sigil]

Hello, Envoy) Can you tell me where I can complete orders for factions at level 40-50?

[teal radish]

I have a nasty feeling they did this insane hike in Faction grind on purpose with prelude 12 and Founder pack release and trying to push Micro Transactions much harder than in Warframe, with XP boosters and all. 🙁

[hazy vapor]

Broadly speaking and relating to Warframes terms:

Courage is power strength
Spirit is duration
Grace is range.

[proven grotto]

How do I join a faction? Nothing is giving me a clear sign of what I would need to do.

[foggy flare]

How do you get the other 2 starting pacts?

[hazy vapor]

Your faction is determined by your starting pact. Tethren is Kith of Kings, Oscl. Is Alva’s Children. Siren is Roses.

[grizzled fjord]

After you finish the stag quest line, it should automatically set you a quest to join your starting faction

[hazy vapor]

Grind your faction, you can buy it for standing later down the ranks.

[foggy flare]

can you switch faction later? How does faction grind works in Co-op? Do each player gets faction reward for their own faction... or?

[proven grotto]

Yea I did that quest, but I cannot gain any rep for them it seems?

[teal radish]

Their support is completely overwhelmed at the moment and not responding to tickets. :(. I have an open ticket already for more than 3 days now that has not been answered still.

[smoky crater]

you can switch factions a bit later on yes. each player gets rep to their own faction too yeah.

[grizzled fjord]

Do you have Faction Tale quests appearing on your map? What happens if you talk to the leader and ask "What is my standing?"

[smoky crater]

"Where Do I Stand" ain't it

[foggy flare]

So if the host starts a "blue" faction quest... I will receive "green" faction XP, because I am currently in the green faction. Is that correct?

[grizzled fjord]

I couldn't remember the exact wording

[proven grotto]

It shows me 0/5000 or what ever. Not seeing any faction tale quests or anything like that on my map.

[smoky crater]

correct

[grizzled fjord]

Do you have The Waste Bear quest line going on right now?

[hazy vapor]

Yes you can swap factions at rank 3 after you get an item called Sacred Shimmer, you use it to build the amulet of the enclave you wish to join. And then head off to that faction’s HQ to swap. For co-op, everyone gets faction XP regardless of of their faction.

[foggy flare]

Thanks!

What's the best way to grind materials? I am in particular dire need of steel to forge weapons, and gossamer thingy for a pact.

[heavy pelican]

I was only able to find 2...

[potent valley]

Weapon stands for metals

[hazy vapor]

A strat I use is to farm the siege with the archer guy boss. Don’t kill him, grab the weapon stands, get out and relog.

[potent valley]

Curlail?

[mystic sedge]

Run Undercity dungeons. You'll get Gossamer from the rare chests at the end and plenty of weapon racks for metal

[foggy flare]

Ah, relog to reset the world? And it doesn't work if you kill the boss?

[cursive veldt]

Gossamer Quartz can be found in high value Glades chests, crypt sarcophagi, and random Avakot inventory

[proven grotto]

I do yes.

[grizzled fjord]

No Faction quests and world bosses spawn while that quest is active, so that would be why!

[hazy vapor]

Yep spot on

[twilit mirage]

Quick question: if I kill the bosses on my world and then activate the cogah cola, will I have to wait 3 hours to kill them again?

[slim bay]

Do we have a roadmap^

[smoky crater]

nnnope

best next thing is devstreams

next best thing?

words

[slim bay]

hat?

What?*

[hazy vapor]

I actually don’t know, every Cogah run I’ve done has some game breaking thing happening to end the run before I could test.

[smoky crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKvY3XAPnJk

[twilit mirage]

I've been hearing about all the bugs. Hope they are able to fix it soon

[smoky crater]

for example. that's the latest devstream

[halcyon thicket]

Maybe there's a roadmap somewhere in DE's website or something

[static musk]

Wait wait. Question I didn’t think of until just now.
When we picked our starting pact. Did that set our musical instrument? Are other ppl not playing a tiny little flute/ocarina thing?

[hazy vapor]

We’re all ocarina players. Until they add a new instrument for us to play.

[static musk]

Ahh

[strange galleon]

which armor set's the best overall?

[static musk]

Related question.
The animals that sleep on you when you log in.
Are those our stinkin equipped totems?!?

[smoky crater]

nop, afaik anyway

[static musk]

Or are they just cuties that are very good boys/girls/themses who deserve scritches

[slim bay]

when it is supposed to release Prelude 13?

[smoky crater]

next year most likely

[waxen haven]

It'd be amazing if they were, but I don't think they are

[smoky crater]

maybe late january or early february

[amber lance]

i think its just the guys we steal the souls from and imprison them in our weapons

[hazy vapor]

Depends on what you’re doing, Bear Pact wants the most defenses for scaling dmg on romp stomp, every other pact feels like they’re wearing Swiss cheese for clothing regardless of the armor imo. Just go for fashion rn.

[smoky crater]

tho we're possibly also getting a slightly bigger update, not preludes 13, this month. so that might push P13 back a bit... maybe

[slim bay]

Btw this is peak gaming, i mean, this alpha is pretty stable honestly, and everything seems so polished... Can't wait to see what will be next

[steady tulip]

Extremely new to this game and know very little about it. Just got my pup. Does it grow up over time or is that somethign that will be added in the future?

[smoky crater]

still future stuff

[hazy vapor]

You get more animal friends with more consecutive log ins.

[smoky crater]

eventually grows up to be our first mount

[static musk]

I was wondering cuz I went through and was playing with Juniper and reupped my equipped totems and when I logged in I was BURIED under a mountain of cute fluff. So I thought they might legit be what we’re equipped with

[charred lagoon]

So I met my faction where else do I go

[strange galleon]

i do have the bear pact and planning on using it, just that ive 0 clue on what the stats are for the arbearer/mockery/mendicant/orengall sets

[slim bay]

After finished all the allies quest, the only remained will be the one about my selected pact, right? There is a way to change the pact and do someone else?

[autumn musk]

are some of the totems have specific location to farm ? ive been farming rats for a couple hours but i been getting the same thing again and again

[static musk]

Change pact or change faction?

[hazy vapor]

You want a mix of arbear, mockery and mendicant. But the main increases come from your totem selections considering duck on yellow at max rank gives you 15 whole magick defense. And the closest equivalent we have for physical would be the arbear chest piece at 10.

[slim bay]

Like right now i'm doing the Kith of Kings enclave quests... Is this a faction?

[static musk]

faction. So for faction rep you see where you can buy the…sacred shimmer? I think it’s called?
Buy that and use it to make one of the other faction amulets. And wear that to go talk to them. So like make rose’s bodkin or…whatever the alca’s children one is. It just needs 1 sacred shimmer to make

That should let you join them and do their quests and get their items.

[slim bay]

Ok, so basically: I will raise the rep untill i can buy the sacred shimmer. Then i will create a faction amulets and then i can change the faction? Or can i simply add another faction and being able to do both?

[static musk]

Basically. I think you only belong to one at a time. But as I understand it you won’t “lose your place”. You could make your mora’s hand and go rejoin the kith of kings and start buying any of their stuff. That’s my understanding anyway

[marsh belfry]

you swap between factions once a week, without losing progress in any either, one at a time

[devout geode]

Gonna try to get to max mastery within 3 weeks. Since its only 39 weapons and 10 pacts.

Very doable

Probably gonna be gatekept by materials

[hazy vapor]

Good luck. I’m about a month in and I’m only missing 1 weapon and 3 other pacts. It’s definitely doable.

[empty mantle]

Need help , right after sign up and purchase founders paragon, after that I login into game the content doesn't start automatically at the beginning, it skips to somewhere with whole items of founder, sow right now i can't do a main story line quest also can't crafting in nightfoth, please anyone else help me figure out

[devout geode]

Thank you, wish you luck with yours as well

[slim bay]

To discover every word of a location, i need to suck it every memory around that place?

All of them are in which range? Pretty close to the location, or even a little far?

[hazy vapor]

If you spawned in the garden instead of the usual overworld. press escape. Bottom right, Leave eternium. And it should get you back to the overworld. Otherwise if you’re stuck on the founder’s buy page screen, there should be a way to click out of it.

[static musk]

They show up in the area. Sometimes monsters drop them. But they do NOT show up all at once. You have to keep going back. It is a slow grind to learn place names

[hazy vapor]

2 is the max amount that spawn at any given time. They can spawn all around the area, from the borders, to inside of bushes, boxes, even on roofs.

[slim bay]

Am asking this beacause i cannot find all of them around this location... how is possible?

[slim bay]

Uh amazing! And what's the reward to fullfill the name's location?

[devout geode]

I mean you get mastery

Not sure if there’s any other benefit

[slim bay]

Mastery... as a stat?!

[devout geode]

Mastery rank towards your account level

[slim bay]

Thanks for the support guys ❤️

[edgy sigil]

yo who's that bear bro with 126 armor pls share your secrets thx

[halcyon thicket]

You need magick weapons with their runes for extra defensive totem slots

[storm dust]

Which boss drops the new runes

[halcyon thicket]

Then stack stagger and Magick armor totems

[hazy vapor]

Staff with rune, stack duck and rat if I remember correctly. Cast 3, cast 1. Butt nuke

[halcyon thicket]

Duck and Deer

[storm dust]

Bow dagger long blade shield and magic?

[edgy sigil]

thanks y'all I'll check my totems again. I have Erstroot and Esthelle already, and I'm baking a courage attuned Erstroot and Odiac

[storm dust]

Hunter, weaver, ??, ??, wazzard

[deep temple]

Has anyone figured out an optimal cogah boss run route that includes the dungeon bosses?

[hard bluff]

Heya, Just getting back into the game now and i saw that in my Pacts inventory, i have Garren Rood with a (1) but when I go to the tent to swap pact, its not available

[hazy vapor]

Cogah mode, bosses have skull icons on the map. Just kill them.

[halcyon thicket]

That's a fragment, u gotta craft it

[hard bluff]

Oh i see, it just shares the same inventory area as pacts? kk! thank you

[oblique badge]

home sweet home.

[barren escarp]

oooh shiit i got old fey back

[brazen bluff]

Earsroot main weapon, odiac secondary, ducks, deer, on both defensive, and runes on both. Wazzard collar. Mockery set.

All in courage

[deep temple]

Overworld route is simple enough even without icons. I'm talking about the dungeon bosses included since dungeons spit you out in different parts of the map

[raw brook]

All my sword runes from an earlier version are gone... is there a fix?

[hazy vapor]

Wait, why do you need the dungeon bosses?

[deep temple]

They are the new cogah bosses I think. They drop cogah specific stuff too.

I mean they are also included in cogah variants.

[strange galleon]

do virtues affect anything else outside of weapon damage scaling & pact abilities?

[brave wing]

is this some kind of faction door? found at least 3 that don't seems to open

[hazy vapor]

Brother, the runes I posted are the only new runes. The older runes, these ones, you can get from the overworld bosses. Dungeons bosses have a chance to drop these. Not sure if they have a chance to drop the Cogah specific ones.

[deep temple]

Cogah has talismans too

Not just runes

[hazy vapor]

Those drop from the marked bosses in Cogah.

[deep temple]

So there's no point in farming the dungeon cogah bosses?

[hazy vapor]

None. There’s no reason to go into dungeons in this prelude.

[deep temple]

That makes things simpler then.

[raw brook]

I had runes on my sword in an older version, they appear to be gone now... any remedy?

[nimble thunder]

how many things do i need to craft for tuvalkane bond 3

[hazy vapor]

Requip. They’re in your inventory just new names.

[strange galleon]

hello?

[hazy vapor]

That’s the gist of the virtues. Nothing else to add there.

[strange galleon]

arighty

[hazy vapor]

Not sure of exact amount but I built a pact, 2-3 weapons and a couple of armor pieces and we’ve been besties since.

[quiet otter]

Is there a best or preferred joinery for magic weapons?

[tulip pumice]

IMO Feybalt

[brave wing]

how far can motes appear for a location? i think in 2/3 on Vertonn and i really can't find the last one

[hazy vapor]

Whatever your heart desires, or your play style dictates, but Feybolt blessed with whatever you scale hardest with is pretty damn good imo

[quiet otter]

That's the consecutive damage and throw range right? Does it also affect projectile range?

[hazy vapor]

They only spawn 2 at max at any given time. And they can go all the to the “border” of their location. But also some of them hide in bushes, boxes, on roofs. Not sure if enemies can hold them, saw a comment on that but haven’t experienced it myself.

[fierce terrace]

faction rep seems to be pretty slow

also i dont know how to unlock more stuff after the stag?

the game just stopped telling me stuff

[civic heath]

How?

[hazy vapor]

It’s based on enemy level. If you wanna grind faction, head to the NE, in the swamp region and try to stay away from heading south.

[civic heath]

but I love my lvl 7 dudes sat next to lvl 20

[hazy vapor]

Next step should be faction. In the area where you exited from killing stag, directly in front of you should be some pages that should give you the quest marker.

[brave wing]

okey, i didn't know the 2 max limit. So how do you refresh the zone to get the rest of the motes?

[tulip pumice]

Get into a dungeon, relog, or just go somewhere else for a while

[hazy vapor]

Relog, dungeon, or do a bounty that takes you away for a bit and head back.

[brave wing]

okey, thanks

also, any idea what's this door?

found already 3 in some caves and they dont open

[hazy vapor]

Juniper bow fragment thing. If I remember correctly

[lethal halo]

Glades dungeon entrance or exit (usually enterance) you will want to progress your journal quests further and it will send you into them. Once you have been in one most of the other entrances should open when you get close

[hazy vapor]

Probably stumbled into the dungeon exit.

[fierce terrace]

should i have something in my journal?

[proven grotto]

Is there anyway to turn off the mouse pulling and losing sensitivity when equipping stuff/leveling weapons and pack stuff?

I cannot think of what to call thar screen haha.

[fierce terrace]

because its empty

[lethal halo]

If your mouse sensitivity is changing wildly it is likely outside of the game... but can you try to be more specific on what is happening?

[lethal halo]

If you don't have something active right now, or have completed everything up to getting your potted plant from your ursine friend. Check your Fables and Ancestor pages.

[proven grotto]

It is 100% not outside of game. So in your tent on the menu where you can change cosmetics/weapons/and such. When I am moving the mouse around it slows down and pulls into the different categories. Then moving away from those main points is just really low sensitivity.

[lethal halo]

There is a magnetism setting in options

[hazy vapor]

Use bird, follow bird to Steelsinger’s quest start, to unlock your smithy. If you already did that. The next step should be starting the Brewer of Hues quest

[urban mountain]

why can't people join my session since yesterday?

[lethal halo]

Type "cursor" into the options search bar

[proven grotto]

Thanks, I'll look for that when I get back in.

[civic heath]

Are you doing any quest?

[urban mountain]

no

[fierce terrace]

who the hell is steelsinger

[civic heath]

Send a screen shot of your map pls

[slim bay]

Am i missing something about gameloop? Other than the main quests about unlocking ppls at ur encampment, and the quest of my faction... Are there something more? Like dunno, secondary quests, or dungeons... or ways to unlock other quests

[lethal halo]

Follow the bird, you still have main quests to do

[civic heath]

Hmm

Try join someone else

[hazy vapor]

Your next main quest, just follow the bird.

[lethal halo]

Yes, all of those. Check your jounal and follow the bird.

[urban mountain]

I can join others but they cant join me

[slim bay]

This is my journal

[lethal halo]

Have you relogged? What is the error?

[lethal halo]

The other tabs on the left.

[fierce terrace]

i think the bird is just taking me to alca's childens tales

[urban mountain]

I don't have one, people can't join me it just says " failed to join session" for them

[lethal halo]

Restart

[slim bay]

Fables?

[lethal halo]

See the tabs on the left?

[fierce terrace]

yeah it took me to a tale

[slim bay]

Yes, but are quests? How to track them?!

[hazy vapor]

Did you go into the enclave and talk to the faction leader?

[slim bay]

Like, is this one done?!

[lethal halo]

Do you have the ability to craft things in your nighthold?

[fierce terrace]

i think so

[slim bay]

Yes, i invited all the guys

[fierce terrace]

then the game just didnt say anything

[lethal halo]

If you have all three ancestors, do you have your potted plant? I tlooks like you do.

[visual heron]

It's not normal for a pact to be at 22 and have no points to upgrade, right?

[slim bay]

This is my encampment

[hazy vapor]

Do you have a smithy active in your nightfold?

[lethal halo]

This is the potted plant. So currently you are at the story content wall, waiting for the next update with the rest of us. If you have your three animal pacts and from their fables then you can currently do world bosses, Cogah boss/runs, and sparrow tales, and sieges, until more is released.

[fierce terrace]

what do you think

[lethal halo]

That people asking for help should be polite as they can manage.

[edgy sigil]

I believe it's 30 points max?

[lethal halo]

There are attunment point limits and they are different per weapon(?

[fierce terrace]

at some point it gets annoying when you keep getting told stuff and what they say should happen doesnt

[distant jungle]

Sometimes point values bug out so you can try resetting assigned points and then leaving arsenal.

[visual heron]

I know leveling maxes at 30, what I'm saying is my pact Wyld Sirin is at 22 but doesn't have any upgrade points.

[distant jungle]

I'd try resetting normal Sirin too then.

As they share points and something might've gone wrong.

[lethal halo]

We are players, not employees. We are trying to help. We could say "Go ask support" and leave it at that.

[hazy vapor]

Look man, I’m just trying to help. If you wanna be a smart ass go ahead. And obviously if something isn’t happening the way it should be. Have you tried relogging cuz this is once again. Earlyyyy in dev. Things get jank.

[visual heron]

This seems to have worked, thanks!

[wheat dust]

is the paragon greatsword any good ? what does it accl do

[visual heron]

Everything.

[distant jungle]

Base scaling is super doodoo though so you want to blessed it. It becomes monoscaling and way better.

[wheat dust]

i see i see

[visual heron]

Wait I thought blessed doesn't actually change the paragon's attunement.

[distant jungle]

When a gem lights up, it's a flat +40 damage to your next heavy, consumed on that heavy.

Same with the other Wyld pack weapons but it can light up to 3.

[distant jungle]

It does, changes it to monoscaling and scales way harder.

[wheat dust]

oh awesome
does it have a diff animation or just a dmg increse?

[patent copper]

Has anyone gotten it?
Is it confirmed that it's the T2/3 mission that gave this weapon?
I worked on the farm for a long time

[visual heron]

Guessing Courage is the typical choice for attunement?

[wheat dust]

lights up through the q things right?

[distant jungle]

Just a damage increase. Though you'll see the gems light up when ready and then flare when you heavy before going out.

[distant jungle]

Yes, via smite of a matching color.

[distant jungle]

Ultimately your choice, but as usual yes.

[keen roost]

Im scared to hit the bell 0_0

[visual heron]

Double the loot though.

[distant jungle]

Lol, not uncommon visual bug, only one spawns.

[hazy vapor]

Only 1 shows up, he’s just trying to scare you

[wheat dust]

bet bet
i guess ill see when i upgrade to paragon next week ty

[keen roost]

The bell only activated one but hay the others still here so still double loot pog

Never mind the bell doesnt activate him Sadness

[tulip pumice]

It's just his kidney stone

[keen roost]

KEKW

[slim bay]

Where can i find a site as a guide?

[lethal halo]

Would be more fun if the bug caused two of him

[distant jungle]

Avakot.org has both the wiki and a soulmap.

The only reliable wiki too.

[hazy vapor]

^ facts

[fierce terrace]

doit

[serene niche]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12

[distant jungle]

Not entirely updated for p12 stuff tho.

But that'll come in time.

It'll probably take a while to figure out all the new scaling formulas.

[edgy sigil]

we're constantly updating it :3

[distant jungle]

I like that my Fellust now has 7 charges. Couldn't begin to tell you why it does though.

[nimble thunder]

where to farm river pearl?

[tulip pumice]

River

[edgy sigil]

river

[keen roost]

Rivers can spawn them

[spring lance]

Follow the rivers

[deep temple]

Early game run along rivers

[distant jungle]

And heavy enemies. And bannerets.

[nimble thunder]

is the best way to just look for it at the rivers?

[hazy vapor]

Yeah, just find every river you can and run along it.

[deep temple]

Initially but later on they drop enough. Atleast in my experience

[tulip pumice]

I've also gotten like 100+ since P12 just from doing a bunch of Agari

[final rock]

so how do people mod the Odiac/Esthelle?

[tulip pumice]

They drop plenty of rare resources

[hazy vapor]

If you find yourself not seeing them as often, relog and retrace your steps.

[hot oriole]

how do i use flyblades to heal

[ashen jewel]

do you need more then 1 of these to craft it ? I got all 3 from quests so I dont need to buy them here right ?

[distant jungle]

You're good, just need to craft them at Tuvalkane.

[deep temple]

Nope 1 is enough

[final rock]

those are if you sell the pacts/fragments if I had to guess

[distant jungle]

Those are if you sell it as a way to get it again.

[ashen jewel]

ok ty

[visual heron]

Those are there in case you sold yours.

[hazy vapor]

Odiac drops from Nimrod, small chance from clerics I believe

[distant jungle]

Previously if you sold one it were just gone.

[final rock]

yeah meant modding it w totems and stuff not aquiring em

[distant jungle]

Your choice of +armor totem in defense, attack speed in attack, I use +smite on utility.

[thorn cosmos]

Does somebody have a spare game key to give? My other friend wanna join and try out the game, he is a big warframe fan. I would apreciette it alot

[distant jungle]

Once you Hollowing which gives you two attack slots I slotted in a beaver for armor reduction.

The generic, not the heavy cast.

[hazy vapor]

My bad, misread that. I opted for Magicks defense, atk speed and more smite for mine.

[final rock]

noted thks

[final rock]

yeah build can mean multiple things didnt think when i first posted that

[obtuse sundial]

hey envoys, i got 2 weapons to 30 (level up message showed 30), but they appear as 29.
levled up a pact from 20-30 in the meantime and they're still showing 29. could it be a visual bug or are they actually stuck at 29.

[distant jungle]

I'd give it a relog and then check them.

[hazy vapor]

^

[distant jungle]

Either they'll snap to 30 or reset to 29 and you can level it properly to 30.

[final rock]

for reforge consecutive attack would be better on odiac right?

[distant jungle]

Sometimes they get stuck like that.

[distant jungle]

Feybalt is by far the better magick option yes.

[stuck lintel]

I usually just farm a lot of pact frags

[final rock]

welp polished feybalt it is

[obtuse sundial]

hmm I think I did a relog already..

[stuck lintel]

They sell for a good amount since i already have them crafted

So you got those dracs on standby

[final rock]

anyone know the dif between Esthelle and Odiac?

[hazy vapor]

A quick t3 in a lvl 30+ area should get you there, as long as you’re using them to kill.

[tulip pumice]

Maybe see whether you're allowed to put a blessed joinery onto them? If it's not blacked out then it's probably just a visual bug

[obtuse sundial]

some good tips, ill have a lookie thanks!

[raw brook]

Ty

[stuck lintel]

Ive maxxed my purity courage build im testing this bow build now

Goblin shenanigans

[deep temple]

For melee what's the consensus, is the 5 more dmg better or gildaur's 4% lifesteal better or is it more of a preference. Can the 5 more dmg become significant with buffs or something.

[hot oriole]

what's the best flyblade and joinery

[upbeat wind]

Can anyone @ me and please explain the behavior of the Endless levelling currently? Everyone has a different idea of how to level stuff in endless. Who knows the answer?

[civic cypress]

Are brewing hues the only way to gain standing with Verminia? The attunement potions, cogah, and cloudquell don't seem to give any

[hazy vapor]

For general use, the 25 dmg is better. But for some specific pacts, you’ll find the life steal way more useful. Like hand of mora, I found myself liking the lifesteal more.

[distant jungle]

Gildaur is typically chosen over Verite as the 5 base damage doesn't really mean anything. Neither does the damage on perfect throw really because that damage scales higher so the difference matters less, and 4% does a lot for sustain. It builds up pretty fast with the damage we deal vs the max HP we have.

[brave wing]

When a weapon show 2 icons on the attunement, in this case 2 Spirit (?) does it means that it will scale like x2 on Spirit and if it shows only 1 icon it scale "normal"? Like, more icons of the same type means it will scale more on that stat?

[obtuse sundial]

it doesnt let me put a blessed joinery so it doesnt count as a lvl 30 one. hmm.. and I'm in an endless atm, had them equipped since the beginning, currently lvl 30 mobs. so odd

[tulip pumice]

Atm solo endless only grants XP to the pact, they changed the distribution logic in P12

[obtuse sundial]

ohhhhhhhhh

[sly escarp]

Endless has had some changes with the recent XP sharing changes. Now, whoever smites the mockeries ONLY gets pact XP, and everyone else gets a split of XP to all items. Most people consider taking turns smiting to be polite to spread the xp around.

[obtuse sundial]

ok so thats it! thank you solus

[hazy vapor]

I’m a filthy weapon thrower, I’m biased. Lmao

[final rock]

yeah smiting only grants pact xp so you'd need to lvl weps passively through affinity sharing

[sly escarp]

More icons = better scaling

[deep temple]

So what I'm getting from both your responses is that the 4% lifesteal is significant enough. Ty Ascalon and Chloranthy

[sly escarp]

Goes up to 3 star scaling

[fierce terrace]

that sounds like a really dumb system

[distant jungle]

The three joineries are essentially Feybalt, Quicksilver, and Gildaur, with Verite being a niche choice for melee.

[final rock]

yeah personally not a fan of the change

[distant jungle]

Gildaur is far more common.

[final rock]

is what it is tho

[brave wing]

thanks. So basically with the Odiac, if I put more points on Spirit in the Virtues menu it will deal more damage?

[fierce terrace]

no

[deep temple]

I see

[sly escarp]

There's several feedback threads stating their discontent! Certainly not the best change for levelling ease imo

[fierce terrace]

if enough people complain it may change

[final rock]

yeah, if there isnt already a thing in feedback tracker id put up a note on it

[sly escarp]

All weapons scale with something up to a cap. The more of the icon, the better it scales with that virtue.

[distant jungle]

I don't mind it not being an even split but nothing should go purely to one source like Mockery kills do.

[fierce terrace]

i know, ive sent stuff in like 30 feedback threads

[sly escarp]

The number does not correlate to attunement cap

But does correlate to scaling amount

[fierce terrace]

also it would probably be good if people could thumbs up a thread instead of cluttering it with +1 messages

[final rock]

btw how does virtue scaling work between the tiers. is it just +1/2/3 or does it work differently

[sly escarp]

It's a rough comparator between items.

[brave wing]

yeah i just tried swapping spirit points and the damage move up or down. so, what's the cap? Is there a way to know it without checking the wiki?

[hazy vapor]

Alternating kills in groups is weird too cuz it reinforces a greed play style to maximize gains. Really don’t like that aspect of it

[sly escarp]

The number of icons indicates a rough approximation of how much scaling per point, but it's not 1 icon = +1 damage per point or anything.

[final rock]

ah interesting

[sly escarp]

Wiki has them all logged, some weapons specify one but it's inconsistent. For some reason it's not displayed clearly in game.

[foggy flare]

How do I know the weapon virtue cap of my weapon?

[tight jungle]

sup dudes sending some codes for fresh meat to try a game

[deep temple]

I had to keep pointing out to a friend that they need to steal so everyone can benefit. It got really awkward 😭 they were not stealing once while saying they are

[hazy vapor]

Wiki, but generally, if there’s two icons, assume somewhere along the line of 15-20. Minus some weird cases.

[sly escarp]

Basically: 1 icon means scales the least, 3 icons means scales the most, and usually 3 icons is a higher quality item with lots of damage potential as a result.

[smoky crater]

add virtue points to the one that your weapons is attuned to, until the weapons damage number stops going up

[foggy flare]

Do we know what virtues does beside the weapon damage and total pool of health?

[smoky crater]

in general, courage = ability strength, spirit = ability duration, grace = ability range

[brave wing]

i just noticed like the relation between Spirit and damage on the Odiac is like 1:2. Each 2 levels you get 2 extra damage

[smoky crater]

not all abilities benefit from all of those tho

[final rock]

maybe someday we will learn which is efficiency :D

[neon meadow]

Has founder male armor been added ?

[fierce terrace]

hey chat

[smoky crater]

not yet

[fierce terrace]

have you tried attacking while midair

[sly escarp]

Check the wiki for the cap, you may be at or over it and getting significantly reduced returns.

[final rock]

hey vwert

[brave wing]

if I'm Oscelda, points on Courage will make my heal more potent for example?

[fierce terrace]

you should try it

[deep temple]

Nope

[fierce terrace]

it does something odd

[sly escarp]

Some abilities only scale with some stats.

[final rock]

the birds get angrier

[deep temple]

Heh

[sly escarp]

You mean the hover on all items except the Mockery weapons?

[smoky crater]

slows down your fall? ye it do that

[fierce terrace]

idk

[sly escarp]

It's handy if you jump off a cliff

[fierce terrace]

i only have access to my starting weapon so i cant say

[tulip pumice]

Brand new sentence

[reef bronze]

Where can I find endless and how does it work?

[zenith knoll]

almost there

[sly escarp]

All weapons do the fall slowing except the Mockery weapons. It's a nice feature, and the Mockery weapons feel Cursed without it. Very flavourful imo.

[brave wing]

so if I put more than 21 points on Spirit it won't give me more damage for the Odiac?

[final rock]

i can assure you that has been stated before

[sly escarp]

That is the case, yes.

[brave wing]

and how do I know that? 🙃

[lean relic]

what is this

[sly escarp]

Wiki describes what scales with what.

[sly escarp]

Rune. Weapon upgrade.

[lean relic]

is it good

[sly escarp]

That one's for Greatswords

[final rock]

trial and error or hope the wiki (avakot.org) knows. information on pact abilties is real obscure due to the game not giving numbers

[sly escarp]

Yes

[brave wing]

meh not cool

[final rock]

Runes usually activate on pull smite and turn your wep into a nuke for a few seconds

[lean relic]

so how do i set the weapon on fire ?

[final rock]

yeah, hopefully when the game has a more concrete balance they give us more easily accessible info on our equipment

[sly escarp]

You have to Smite to activate it

[lean relic]

hmmm nice ty

[hazy vapor]

Glades tile set look for a deer statue in an open corrupted enclosed swamp, alternate kills between the whole team. Swap weapons when they’re maxed out between lulls in combat. Don’t die all at once otherwise the spawns stop. At least one player should be in the endless room and not in nightfold when doing swaps.

[reef bronze]

ty

[vast marten]

Where do you farm squirrel for greatsword?

[tulip pumice]

Do a bunch of squirrels and hope it drops
There's a bunch of them all over forest areas

[smoky crater]

anywhere you find squirrels

[vast marten]

And where you consistently find squirrel? 😭

[autumn musk]

whats the better bow guys ? starling juniper or blitzel

[smoky crater]

that was also just answered ._.

[hazy vapor]

Uhh usually just travel into the forest biome, and keep spectral site going to spot them.

[vast marten]

Running around the map hoping to find squirrel is boring af

[neon meadow]

Steve was cut off at the end of yesterdays devshort, he said we will get male armor today

[smoky crater]

think all 3 are fairly close to each other but the best bow is either Starling or Juniper. can't remember which

[hazy vapor]

Personally, I think the juniper is a better bow.

[autumn musk]

there isnt any 3 star bow right

[distant jungle]

Was Juniper, is now Starling.

[final rock]

didnt they just buff the starling yesterday?

[distant jungle]

They buffed Starling in the recent hotfix.

[autumn musk]

oh yeah they did

[buoyant latch]

they increased damage and smite chance

[tulip pumice]

I feel like my Starling pulls as fast as Juniper even though there's a blessed Quicksilver on the latter.

[distant jungle]

Instead of the same damage and worse smite compared to Juniper, it now has better damage and the same smite.

So it's now a straight slight upgrade from Juniper.

[ionic mesa]

how do you get orengall's fang now again?

[distant jungle]

Glades rare chests.

[tulip pumice]

Bring her to the dentist

[ionic mesa]

thanks

[autumn musk]

dang i dont have a single quicksilver blessed

[tulip pumice]

Yeah they're a pain to get, only ever got 1

[distant jungle]

Okay the post-tale cutscene needs to change.

Forcing me into it just got me hit twice for free, unavoidably.

First from forcing me to put my weapon away when an enemy was attacking, and next because he was allowed to hit me after before I could input anything.

[ionic mesa]

does using a blessed joinery increase overall damage with the paragon gs compared to maxing it out normally?

[distant jungle]

Yes, substantially.

300-ish vs 360-ish.

[ionic mesa]

=wowie

[brave wing]

okey so I read how Oscelda abilities scale on the wiki but then I noticed this under the pact info in the wiki. Is it a recommendation? I don't get it, cuz it seems that it's better to scale Oscelda on Spirit

[granite scaffold]

DE knows about the courage scaling meta issue right?

[distant jungle]

It actually scales best with Courage largely, but similarly I do not know what that order is for yeah.

[final rock]

the what?

[edgy sigil]

nope not sure what wiki that is but that recommendation is not good

[granite scaffold]

from what I can tell there no point of build diversity, it makes the most sense to change all your weapons scaling to courage

[scenic solar]

*looks at the WarFrame Viral-Heat meta thanks to weakening enemy health values, an armor strip, and a DoT” I don’t think they really care

[brave wing]

it's avakot. on Bromius is like this

i don't know if it's really a recommendation or what exactly

[final rock]

o yeah

Strength/Courage is definitely the winner rn

[gilded seal]

Does courage only affect damage, or does it work like strength in warframe? e.g. if I skill buffs me, does it affect how much the skill buffs me by?

[granite spade]

Guys I'm on the sprites blessing quest and so confused. It says offer a song for luck but doing the music emote does nothing

[granite scaffold]

courage scales all pact abilities the best, the only reason to use grace or spirit is your weapon scaling but with reforging you can make those all scale for courage too

[tulip pumice]

It saying Virtue Arts makes me think it's the order the virtue point arts get unlocked?

[distant jungle]

The latter, it scales other stuff aside from damage.

[granite scaffold]

a few abilites like spirit, but its still better to have more courage and some spirit

[final rock]

Oscelda likes the range for the heal in multiplayer

[autumn musk]

looks like old bromius

[granite scaffold]

yea and orengal likes spirit for sure

[autumn musk]

u use courage skill for dmg now

[brave wing]

but then you are stuck with weapons that scale on courage no? It's quite tricky to give points for the weapons and the pact at the same time wihout leaning more into abilities or weapons damage

[distant jungle]

Running the wrong way there bud.

[tiny mountain]

just chilling

[wet portal]

is the only way to get marrows bane acc kombucha 😭

[distant jungle]

Blessed joineries.

[distant jungle]

Yes.

Same as the armor.

[wet portal]

dewelion is so much easier to get w similar stats lmao

[distant jungle]

...similar stats?

Marrow's Bane is substantially better.

[edgy sigil]

yeah I can see oscelda scaling better with grace for bigger heal area ig but it's definitely not the only way to build it

[distant jungle]

Dewelion is just a slight upgrade to Igne Mora cus of more smite chance.

Marrow's hits significantly harder.

[brave wing]

umm, in my experience (i may be wrong) i only get spirit points to apply. I'm lvl 14 with oscelda and I can put way more points on spirit than grace or courage.

Unless i'm not following you

[restive apex]

How does virtue caps for weapon scaling work? How do you see that ingame?

[tulip pumice]

Holup lemme check something, I'm in the middle of getting murdered by Sinecure

[final rock]

avakot.org has a wiki w the caps. its not shown ingame iirc but after you hit a certain amount of virtue, that value depends on the specific wep, most weapons top out and cannot scale higher

[distant jungle]

The only way to see it in-game is by increasing a virtue point by point and waiting until your weapon's damage stops going up. Each weapon has a 'softcap' for attunement, after that value they will not go up at all unless you're using throws, charged shots, and I think charged attacks, which scale to a higher limit.

All of these softcaps are listed on wiki.avakot.org.

[wet portal]

i j guessed it was the same cos both 3 stars - i only have 1 fragment atm

[quiet otter]

Is there no way to get more weapon space other than real money? I really thought I would get more than 6 inventory spaces for weapons.

[wet portal]

sell weapons

[edgy sigil]

checked it with the wiki guys and virtue arts is just the order that the virtues appear in the tree

[distant jungle]

So it's the skill unlock sequence, that makes sense. Wait no, misread lol. I guess that works?

[tulip pumice]

Yup, just went checking in-game as well

And I did not get murdered in case anyone was worried

[wet portal]

how do i get cogah potions? i completed all the fables, have the sap, but cant craft them

[edgy sigil]

we weren't, we believe in your skill

[distant jungle]

Do you have Verminia at level 2?

[final rock]

get Vermia to lvl 2 by brewing stat buff pots

[distant jungle]

You must rank up the french rat lady to brew delicious cogah cola.

[wet portal]

lord

[vague widget]

avakot wondering where all the customers are

[brave wing]

I'm not understanding the "virtue appear on the tree" part. Do you mind to explain? With pics if possible, cuz I think i'm checking myself wrongly ingame

[wet portal]

how the hell

[final rock]

how'd you get it that high?

[quiet otter]

Is there any word about whether the 6 weapon cap (before real money) is the long term plan? That seems terrible given the current system for weapon skill levels.

[edgy sigil]

#gameplay-discussion message

[distant jungle]

These three nodes.

The nodes that give you virtue points when you level them. The order that they are in. Shown here as Grace, Spirit, Courage.

[vague widget]

@final rock i didnt buy from avakot lol

[final rock]

assuming the goals to be like WF, eventually trading for arcs/plat will become a thing. I will say its kinda shit to have the wep/pact cap be as low for a pre-alpha with the goal of testing tho.

[tulip pumice]

Just play twice as much as I do

[brave wing]

so it's just that a passive about Grace appear first than a Spirit and then Courage? Specific to that branch in the pact tree?

[distant jungle]

Yes.

[brave wing]

gotcha. thanks guys

[wet portal]

where is the swamp the witch goes to?

[final rock]

wonder if theyll add a battlepass like nightwave

[distant jungle]

Oddly specific thing to list but I guess more info is better.

[lapis fox]

Soo.... What do y'all think DE should do about all the extra gear fragments we have lying around?

[edgy sigil]

an oddly specific wiki is always a good thing yes

[tulip pumice]

Give it the Harrow chassis blueprint treatment

[final rock]

personally id guess you could smelt em for dracs or whatever the totem currency is called in the future

or trade em probably

[distant jungle]

Probably just sell them en masse like in WF.

For an even bigger pile of dracs.

[edgy sigil]

you get a Vasp-IV, you get a Vasp-IV, everyone gets a Vasp-IV

[tulip pumice]

Since they're taking a bunch of aspects from Warframe into this game, most things probably won't be able to be traded

[distant jungle]

I mean, blueprints and parts always can, yes?

[lapis fox]

I think we should be able to scrap them for crafting mats, we're always short on Moranite/Sapphline

[distant jungle]

Frags are just Soulframe's parts.

So I'd assume they'll be tradeable.

[final rock]

that'd be nice for the rarer frags

[tulip pumice]

I hope so

[lapis fox]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-gold-hoarder-hoard-smaug-gif-15973167

[quiet otter]

Yeah this feels like trash and very p2w right now. Like I just have starter weapons and like the first couple I could craft and I'm already full. Feels terrible.

[distant jungle]

That's what you use your starting arcs for, more slots.

I'd recommend two pact slots and the rest weapons.

It only feels harsh cus it's a pre-alpha and trading ain't a thing yet.

There isn't a lot of game to support a player economy.

That will change with time.

[final rock]

yeah im no game dev, but it feels real early to implement paying for arcs and squeezing players to pay for em. ignoring founders anyways i dont have issues w that.

[edgy sigil]

they are also testing out the perfect balance of starting slots and it's definitely gonna get improved

[brave wing]

every weapon of the same type has the same moveset? longswords are all the same?

[distant jungle]

I think 10 and 5 would be fine instead of 6 and 3.

Especially with both increasing in number over time.

[storm dust]

which is better? Witan or Grinn

[sharp garden]

Wouldn't disagree entirely, one of the things I hate is inventory limitations in MMOs.. But I've got more than a couple pieces of armor and weapons I think I got at least 30 or so pieces of gear and didn't pay for anything. BUT I did pay for Paragon sooo....

[distant jungle]

Grinn. Same damage, better smite.

[restive apex]

I swapped my Witan to grace

[digital path]

Witan for fashion, grinn for usage

Grinn is better but I find it kinda ugly because that blade would snap irl SO FAST

[storm dust]

whats best for the defensive totem?

parry window?

[final rock]

armor

[lapis fox]

There's beginning to be some variation, like long blades and cleavers

However making new animations takes time and it's a lengthy process to do all the mo cap and implementation

[digital path]

If youre doing high level content, the three armor totems always

[final rock]

personally magick since mendicant armor is real phys oriented

[brave wing]

yeah, just asking cuz I have a couple of longswords and if they are the same I will go with the one that can scale more on Spirit for now

[lapis fox]

Alternatively, run around in big circles and hope you don't get hit

[distant jungle]

Depends on how reinforced it is, I've seen daggers that are essentially just thin spikes. That and it's Ode so a superior alloy is an easy handwave. Material weakness is one of the first things fairly logically handwaved in a fantasy setting so I have no problem with it.

[digital path]

I mean I skill my way out of using defense totems but not everyone can

I'm a souls player, I live by the philosophy of just "dont get hit and you're fine"

[edgy sigil]

as much as I don't like the "it's pre-alpha" excuse, it is indeed in pre-alpha. we're the testers, and our feedback is important so the amount of starting slots surely isn't something that's gonna be final

the shop is more for the founders if anything, because they'll need something to spend their arcs on.

[lapis fox]

Very true, I meant that to be a little hyperbolic

[final rock]

yeah dont get hits obviously better, but as of now I dont really see the other options for totems being great and ode grenades are annoying

[brave wing]

What I noticed is that the base damage on the weapons is the same on each type. I have ready to craft 3 short blades and all are 26-52 base damage

[obsidian stirrup]

I would like to see mace and hammers for new weapons

[distant jungle]

-# Yaaaaaaaaaaaay...

[final rock]

ye hammer would be fun

[digital path]

True, the arcs I got went towards avoiding the worst part of the game rn- faction grind.

I just got the two base pacts I started without (it's cheap btw, it's like $10 for both)

[tulip pumice]

Found something, have you?

[distant jungle]

I am very happy she doesn't spam that anymore.

[final rock]

ah I remember when she spammed that line every... single... time...

[brave wing]

i really want to match shields with other than a sword. I wish the shield was a separate weapon and not a combo shield+sword on the primary weapon

[lapis fox]

"I'd be keen to see it whole"

[quiet otter]

I'm actually pretty forgiving about pre alpha in most cases. I feel like once an hour when playing with friends I say aloud "Eh, it's an alpha." But this feels terrible and is so deliberate. Is the best feedback method their official forum?

[final rock]

yeah "its a pre-alpha" is actually worse in the case of monetization imo

[edgy sigil]

#1438224662344761345 is monitored

[final rock]

wish they kept the P10 system of having 1 slot per thing currently ingame

[foggy flare]

Just got my faction to level 1. Do I need to pick one of the items? And do they have different value?

[edgy sigil]

i agree with the point that "surely if we're supposed to be testing the weapons that we need a slot for it" and I feel like it's a dilemma for them too because they'd also need to figure out how many starting slots to give to players at some point, right?

[static musk]

It’s like Christmas creep.
But you can give them $100 to play it now. Which I did. And don’t regret. I’ve already gotten my money worth out of it. These storyline quests and cutscenes melt my frozen heart. I love them SOOO MUCH

[final rock]

id save that for when the game is open access imo

[devout vapor]

how do i get in there

[final rock]

a pre-alpha shouldn't be the time to try and monetize users imo. can't imagine they need the money considering WF and Founders

[tulip pumice]

A lever on the bridge hidden by breakable boxes

[distant jungle]

A lever on the upper level.

[distant jungle]

Yeah this.

[devout vapor]

ooomg i am so blind

[final rock]

havent heard of christmas creep before.

[teal moth]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-ava-creep-gif-23966746

🤣

[foggy flare]

Got my faction level 1. And I can see 3 rewards to pick. Can I grab all 3, or do I need to choose?

[tulip pumice]

You gotta choose

[sinful axle]

You can buy them later but you can get one for free with the level up

Probably odiac?

[foggy flare]

Which one is the hardest to farm? 😄

[brave wing]

i would choose the colour haha. but odiac is cool and nice dmg weapon

[sinful axle]

Its a t2 sidearm iirc wulder is the default t1 longsword

[foggy flare]

It seems the color only cost 100 faction to buy... but I don't know about the crafting cost.

[final rock]

is Odiac still a rough grind?

[sinful axle]

You dont get the item you get the fragment

Its not gonna skip crafting

[tulip pumice]

I think they've changed it to 1500 as of P12

[patent summit]

So I’m new, what’s the numbers above enemies heads? I see 15-21 and no idea if I’m somewhere I shouldn’t be. I’m just following the bird and currently going after a stag

[edgy sigil]

it's probably less of a cash grab and more for like market validation and a technical stress test

[foggy flare]

That's the difficulty level. You should probably avoid those for now and focus on going after the stag.

[lilac cape]

It's a donation at best lol, you don't have to do it, it's not on sale on steam or anything

They did the same with Warframe years ago btw, and it's even cheaper than then

[sinful axle]

he wasnt talking about founders but the rest of the monetization

[final rock]

im referring to new players wep/pact slots and the purchase of arcs not founders

[neon meadow]

where this?

[keen roost]

Anyone know which mini boss drops the rune for bows?

[toxic coyote]

Gray/oil areas

[edgy sigil]

yeah i think the p11 starting slots is too low

[toxic coyote]

try wazz,king, and knell spawn areas

[lilac cape]

I get it now

[digital path]

They'd probably be fine once trading comes online, you get less in Warframe iirc

But it's counterbalanced by early game plat farms

[wraith perch]

Hey guys, is it a glitch to not have any faction points after a rank up?

[keen roost]

Yea once trading is a thing you can farm arcs basically so it wont be a big deal

[digital path]

Whaddya mean