gameplay-discussion

[plush tartan]

Be a founder

[cloud palm]

Do specific sub-bosses drop specific runes, or do all sub-bosses have a chance of dropping runes?

[oak dagger]

Ohhhhhh nvm then

[vagrant kayak]

Gotta be a Founder, 1 flower per pack or Paragon for all 3 and an extra Paragon one

[plush tartan]

Think its specific

[vagrant kayak]

Specific ones drop specific Runes, and also drop different ones in Cogah

[cloud palm]

Any way to know? I need to see if I can get a rune for my bow

[plush tartan]

Look on the avakot wiki

[lime cairn]

I thought orengall said the runt was the white one

[heavy frost]

I'm crying rn

[lime cairn]

Like the dirty white one

[plush tartan]

For bow the runes drop off Ruth’s

Ruthos

[vagrant kayak]

Nah, she mentions the runt after you save Ciar, the runt is the one that's howling before the "boss fight"

[whole yarrow]

What to do with duplicate runes? I know that i can release them, but is there something else i am missing?

[lime cairn]

Ahh man I wanted the runt guess I didn’t get the runt then

[vagrant kayak]

Right now you just turn them into spare Harmony

Might become tradeable in future

[blazing swift]

there's no point having multiple of the same runes, right? unlike totems

[oak dagger]

What’s max rank for pact/weapon

[blazing swift]

30

[plush tartan]

Maybe if ur too lazy to swap them between weapons

[whole yarrow]

Thanks

[sturdy nova]

30

[blazing swift]

wdym swap, do they not save between weapons and once you use it on another it takes out from last one?

[vagrant kayak]

The Agari forefend, without The Cogah, withhold such Runes, found here and where:

• Hurlwind (Flyblade): Discharged Nimrod
• Emberaught (Dagger): Etheldred The Weaver
• Archstorm (Magicks): Wraith of Wastes
• Everflame (Greatsword): Siege Castellans and Mendicant King
• Forburn (Shield): Sinecure-Errant Gawth and Thrice-Bound Impidh
• Alca’s Breath (Bow): Gruul Seeker Ruthos
• Everflame (Longblade): Knell Knight
• Torcheternal (Polearm): Kabocha

The Envoy, drunken of The Cogah, can seek out new and similar Runes found abound:

• The Durglint (Shield): Sinecure-Errant Gawth
  Parried attacks from your shield reflect a portion of the damage back.
• The Torrent (Bow): Gruul Seeker Ruthos
  Summon a volley of arrows from the sky upon Smiting.
• The Flitsmoke (Dagger): Etheldred The Weaver
  Being cloaked upon Smite, with stealth kills increasing the duration of your stealth.
• The Hollowing (Magicks): Wraith of Wastes
  Attacks mark an enemy, with subsequent attacks igniting the mark to deal damage.
• The Mistgale (Longblades): Knell Knight
  Release spectral attacks from your blade's swing.
• Everflame (Greatsword): Siege Castellan and Mendicant King
• Hurlwind (Flyblade): Discharged Nimrod
• Forburn (Shield): Thrice-Bound Impidh
• Everflame (Longblades): Ode’n Hound
• Torcheternal (Polearm): Kabocha

[blazing swift]

woah there

[plush tartan]

Maybe honestly im not sure

[blazing swift]

I hope not, because totems persist across multiple weapons

[vagrant kayak]

You can put the same Rune in multiple weapons of the same type

[cloud palm]

Oh, thanks! I dont know what Cogah is (For what I've seen it's like the Soulframe version of Steel Path?) so Im going to go for the Alca's Breath rune

[vagrant kayak]

No need to keep dupes

[blazing swift]

same totem

[vagrant kayak]

Cogah is hard mode yeah, it's a potion you drink

[timid ridge]

Is the Fast Travel doors only for dungeons? Because it is quite frustrating when I need to get somewhere on the other side of the map, or say... escape a high-danger area, only to be stuck.

[blazing swift]

yeah I get that, the question more of would i have to fiddle everytime with swapping it out if i change weapon

[heavy frost]

New trauma acquired

[vagrant kayak]

I think you misunderstand, you don't need to swap it out

[oak dagger]

I was told I can get an armor set from crypt of the circade is this true

[heavy frost]

Yes

[plush tartan]

Yes

[vagrant kayak]

You can put Everflame in your Wulder and also in your Sollos-I, it'll be in both

[blazing swift]

yes, if you do the secret puzzle

[blazing swift]

yeah so just like totems, ty

[plush tartan]

You have to do the puzzle (look it up its not designed to be solved solo)

[cloud palm]

Hm, seems like I gotta seek for that Gruul Seeker guy

[heavy frost]

I did it solo

Oops

[blazing swift]

well, did you solve it solo

or followed a guide LUL

[cloud palm]

Well, with my ToTL + Picktrix nukes I think it's going to be quick work

[heavy frost]

I mean I got stuck on the button

But eventually I nightfold just hit it with a throwing blade

[plush tartan]

I mean its literally impossible to solve solo as you need 10+ other envoys sharing their version

[vagrant kayak]

After you finish Waste Bear you unlock limited fast travel to World trees

[oak dagger]

How do I find said secret puzzle

[heavy frost]

Its in the boss room

[blazing swift]

just look it up honestly

[heavy frost]

I can join and help if you want my name is the same as discord

I'm just running my normal bosses atm

[high forge]

To get the once per day consumable for fast travel, go to the potted plant next to the witch's spot. Up the stairs and face the seed to grab it

[oak dagger]

Yes please I still have default armor TwT

[plush tartan]

I havent bothered getting the amulet from circade yet, i should probably do that

[heavy frost]

Fair enough

[young hazel]

Since endless in glades doesnt level weapons very efficient whats the best way to lvl weapons nowadays?

[plush tartan]

Hit everything you see with it

[high forge]

Still endless, but I prefer faction tales

[blazing swift]

do you have to actively use the weapon? does it give increased xp?

[heavy frost]

Are you at the crypts or should I go and invite

[tired sail]

It looks like it's just a blacksmith UI/Arsenal UI bug

[blazing swift]

like in wf

[oak dagger]

I'm inside them should I leave them for you to join?

[blazing swift]

yeah, told you I felt ym damage go up with quicksilver

[tired sail]

161 is +0, while 174 is a tempered quick silver

[heavy frost]

Uh maybe? Send me a invite

[high forge]

Don't know about that part, it seems to be the case

[blazing swift]

I think it only shows the damage increase in blacksmith ui with old joineries tbh

[tired sail]

Gildaur shows the change to base damage

[blazing swift]

nvm then just a quicksilver/bow issue

[tired sail]

I haven't checked Magick weapons, but melee also updates the base damage in the blacksmith/arsenal UI

Casting weapons update correctly

[atomic quartz]

Is it normal that odiac doesnt get the tethren damage boost from 1st ability?

[alpine root]

is your odiac reforged for the courage virtue?

[atomic quartz]

I still cant figure out how that ability trurly works, like the rat damage share on flyblades also deactivates tethren 1

[alpine root]

oh wait wrong pact

atm fellust is weird

[atomic quartz]

nope, normal odiac

[lavish smelt]

for magick weapons, which is better for pure dps? verite or feybalt?

[sly hemlock]

Noob question after i finished the orengall quest where should i got next? the bird does not point me in MSQ

[vagrant kayak]

You can't put Verite on magic weapons

Only Feybalt and Gildaur

And Feybalt is better

[lavish smelt]

i meant giladur mb*

[high forge]

Find the witch ancestor

[sly hemlock]

what is that quest name?

[spring valley]

why does one of my weapons have a down arrow on its icon even though i have more than enough stat to use it?

[alpine root]

what is the weapon attuned with

[barren escarp]

The Brewer of Hues

[barren escarp]

you have to be above the attune requirement

[spring valley]

how?

[barren escarp]

if you are its a bug either relog or post it

[barren escarp]

what virtue is it attuned to?

[uncut river]

why is it that sometimes I'm dying and going back to the stone, others I just go down and can't respawn?

[spring valley]

i think grace

[barren escarp]

what weapon?

[spring valley]

unsula

lowk dont know what weapon is good ive been using the wyld long sword

[barren escarp]

ooh ok ya that needs to be above 10 grace

[spring valley]

the ivor

[barren escarp]

ivors are the 2nd strongest

[tropic nacelle]

Am I supposed to have a negative 5 to courage at base? I went with Sirin first but I have a permanent +8 to Spirit at base despite no gear adding to it, can I get those points back?

[barren escarp]

vetch still a bit better

[sly hemlock]

Tysm bro

[glossy vector]

What if you could sprint faster when your weapon is sheathed?

[real thicket]

its really weird no matter what i do i still have +5 extra stat on grace and idk where its coming from

[dense sentinel]

swapping pacts without leaving the arsenal can lead to visual bugs which are reset upon entering again

[tropic nacelle]

Makes sense as to why it was so random and no matter how much I tested it I could only get above 20 Courage for my weapon once

[trim mirage]

does anyone know why all the animals i recruit just disappear ive recruited like atleast 3 "dart" squirrels yet there are non in my inventory

[tropic nacelle]

I don't think it's a visual bug because it still stops me from equipping the weapon despite re-equipping my talisman

not stops but rather still has the down arrow

[dense sentinel]

You already tried leaving and entering the arsenal I assume?

[tropic nacelle]

and leaving the Nightfold

[dense sentinel]

try resetting the skill node that affects virtues?

[tropic nacelle]

Ah turns out the game is just refusing to equip the talisman so that's neat

[real thicket]

i encountered that bug i just relogged

[dense sentinel]

ohhhh yeah I had that bug. I think it just fixed itself when I relogged

[restive sand]

Oh, thanks for testing! Very nice

[real thicket]

i was figuring out why i had +5 extra grace til this day i still don't know where it comes from

[tropic nacelle]

Took a relog and about a hundred clicks leaving the arsenal repeatedly but it finally let me equip it lol

[mellow crater]

hello, is it possible to re do quests?

[uncut river]

With the circade armour, why are the 3 star legs worse than the 2 star founder legs?

402 for circade, 602 for founder legs

[ashen jewel]

do mobs here have infinite agro range ? I cant seem to escape any encounter I keep running and they keep following lol

[tardy fulcrum]

Should I be concerned I don't have this turned off?

[burnt lava]

So the compendium does not show you weapons you've acquired and sold? The forge also no longer tells you if it's been crafted and leveled if you sold it?

[dense sentinel]

it's a fairly common of an error in most games dw. I don't remember how to fix it tho

[vagrant kayak]

Check here: (adjust for Soulframe ports) https://www.warframe.com/strictnat

[burnt lava]

I would just reboot the computer before I did all that

[blazing swift]

I would say because armor currently doesn't make sense in general

[uncut river]

how do I respawn when I'm just down on one knee waiting for a res?

It's got an infinite timer, and it's not letting me go back to the stone as a bird

[smoky crater]

Assuming you're playing with someone else because that shouldnt happen otherwise the other person has to come revive you

[uncut river]

yeah but when everyone's down?

[distant jungle]

I've heard that happening very often. Definitely a bug, and a very consistent one.

[smoky crater]

[barren escarp]

I just fought Agari Reaper in glades....

that was fun

when did they add the giant dog?

[distant jungle]

P12.

Dungeons have their own Agari now.

[barren escarp]

right I didnt even see his name patchnotes

[distant jungle]

I think the dog is Reaper.

[barren escarp]

yeah im aware

[barren escarp]

just learned that 2 mins ago

[distant jungle]

Oh yeah, they don't mention all of them, though I def heard people mentioning Reaper.

Guess they just kept some as a surprise lmao.

[queen kayak]

Is chat not working for ya?

[rapid wren]

saw a message saying it was going offline for maintenance

[fickle spear]

Yep

[queen kayak]

Ok

[rapid wren]

yall what are these interactable things at the base of trees that i apparently cant open

sap or something maybe?

[vagrant kayak]

Sap yes, for a future quest

Once you get the sap tap item you'll be able to harvest them

[rapid wren]

ah oke thanks, also i seem to have zero faction quests available now... i thought they would keep generating as i move around?

[vagrant kayak]

Do you happen to be on the Waste Bear fable?

[rapid wren]

no im quite new

[rapid wren]

like im not even faction rank 1 so...

[regal sparrow]

hello, my character can iteractive with this

is this bug?

[vagrant kayak]

Faction quests should just spawn then, may want to relog

Chat server is briefly offline for maintenance

Not a bug, will come back soon

[drifting spear]

uh

i also have failed to connect to chat server

[vagrant kayak]

Yes, it's offline

[drifting spear]

oh...

why?

[vagrant kayak]

Maintenance

Back soon

[drifting spear]

alright

[shadow breach]

about avakot,, what happens if I buy duplicate pact?

[next rampart]

is my waymark on the undercity entrance location?

i went there earlier and there were vines so i wasnt sure if that was the exit or not

[vagrant kayak]

That's a Dermak entrance yeah

Down the well IIRC

[next rampart]

ill try again but last time it wouldnt let me in

[vagrant kayak]

Those are fragments, they'll let you craft a Pact again if you happened to have sold it

[rapid wren]

relogged and quests are appearing, ty howl

[vagrant kayak]

No need to buy those if you haven't sold the matching Pact

[shadow breach]

ah,, then I'll ignore it

what about playing regatta? what is the reward for winning?

[vagrant kayak]

Feels good (none right now)

[tall lichen]

how to get weapon and pact lvl 30 fast? any dun to go?

[burnt lava]

Of the two sword and shields which one is the better?

[ember dagger]

are wylds farmable right now?

[dark raptor]

Is there a way to not have this spam every single materials each time I kill a boss or it changes day/night?

Sometimes it shows 0 on materials even, like why does it show something I've not obtained...

[burnt lava]

No

[rapid wren]

yeah the Material 1(2) thing is confusing

[blazing palm]

why cant i find the Cogah ? is there something am missing ?

[ember dagger]

ait thanks!

[burnt lava]

Lvl 2 girlfriend

[blazing palm]

ty ty

[vagrant kayak]

Not right now

[next rampart]

is this not the entrance to the undercity?

[forest birch]

Lol where she went ?

[tropic nacelle]

away

[next rampart]

does anyone know where i can go to enter the undercity? i cant seem to find it anywhere

[limber nexus]

do blessed joineries change the requirements as well as the attunments?

[uncut river]

http://soulmap.avakot.org/P12

[queen kayak]

Apparently releasing animals from cages does not award you harmony 😔

[acoustic mica]

Hey, I'm doing one of those 3 star quests to get respect for that rose guild, I've completed 2/4 steps and i'm on the 3rd where it says 'slay the corrupted creatures'. I've destroyed 2 of the heads on this totem and its sent me to a location close to it but theres no heads or enemies for me to kill

[uncut river]

anyone else having forward move just lock on sometimes?

[vagrant kayak]

No asking for codes in the Discord please Envoys

[rapid wren]

corrupted creatures means mobs, ugly things too you just gotta wander around that circle on the map until you find them

[tall lichen]

guys where can i farm weapon and pact lvl?

[pseudo magnet]

Hello, idk why people have not said anything. The vines you encountered are covering the exit of the undercity. There are various entrances around, look around south.

[acoustic mica]

Ah okay, good chance it might be bugged then because i've cleared any and all enemies around and even further than the circle. Thank you though!

[next rampart]

i found it, ty!

[vale rivet]

turtle like ones. whiteish grey. you find them near the pools of corruption with dead sticks sticking out of the ground

[pseudo magnet]

Bosses, dungeons, faction missions

[tall lichen]

i saw enless things

mop are coming what is that?

[prime quartz]

is there a way to change my class? i picked archer by accident

[rapid wren]

weird maybe relog, but also check above/below if possible (cave maybe?)

[pseudo magnet]

you can spec into anything, depends on your pact really

[rapid wren]

last time i had corrupted creatures some nearby enemies just killed them for me 😄

[acoustic mica]

Yeah, I'll try relogging cause since it's a swamp I dont think theres an above or underneath lol

[rapid wren]

mind you im new but yeah theyre like these ugly white things

[vale rivet]

Once you free the blacksmith you can craft new weapons and pacts. Pacts you can get from stories and factions

[acoustic mica]

@rapid wren Ah, relogging canceled the quest. Thank you for your help though i'll keep it in mind for next time

[velvet goblet]

how can i see how many pact slots i own?

[rapid wren]

well at least youre not stuck now, hopefully next time you see the enemies straight away

[dark raptor]

? What do I do with this....?

[vale rivet]

But I think there is nothing stopping you from running Oscelda pact with one giant sword

[ocean crescent]

what is this

[iron nimbus]

How does the damage scaling work with The Paragon?

[tropic nacelle]

you definitely can but a Spirit scaling greatsword would be a cool idea

[clear sleet]

Loki?

[vale rivet]

Anime great sword mechanic where you fling it like a dagger?

[velvet goblet]

can you farm the premium currency atm ?

[twilit pumice]

can anyone spare free key or code pls?

[wicked patrol]

Can you buy other pacts at enclaves that is not their own? for eg tethren at alcas'?

[hot oriole]

What's the best flyblade

[uncut river]

@vagrant kayak just posted about that here, read above

[regal sparrow]

hello guys, how can i reveal any NPC in map like tuvalkane please, just use youtube?

[quasi ledge]

Salutations all. Is there a daily limit to how much faction xp you can earn?

[twilit pumice]

ty

[regal sparrow]

hello guys, how can i reveal any NPC in map like tuvalkane please, just use youtube?

[quasi ledge]

Not sure if that is possible. I personally used a yt video to locate them all. Saralovesarchery is helpful.

[regal sparrow]

if i reveal a name of that land, will it reveal a misson like that for me

the game is so much bug

[velvet goblet]

when charming animals sometimes there is a harmony icon tht pops up what am i suppose to press if there's no numbered note behind it?

[coarse bison]

you press the button for the string it's on

[quasi ledge]

I don't know if it works like that sorry. Just a few days playing too xD @regal sparrow

[ashen jewel]

hmm I was following the story got to the bear boss and I literally do zero dmg to him and he kills me so fast lol the difficulty here seems kinda sus, was I supposed to grind before or what ? 😄

[velvet goblet]

so top to bottom would be 1 thru 5? i swear ive tried that and it ddidnt work maybe i just miss timed

[regal sparrow]

LOL , my jounal not reveal the continue misson , but my friend can play to the wolf misson, my misson stop at the deer

[velvet goblet]

there ould be no note on very first string aside from haramony and i would press1 but nothing happened

[coarse bison]

the timings are incredibly tight, harmony or not, you probably missed

[velvet goblet]

damn okay thanks!

[quasi ledge]

@regal sparrow wolf mission is special, you start it by finding the RED balloon at the small enemy camps

[regal sparrow]

but my friend can tracking it, not me, my tracking list is empty LOL

[quasi ledge]

have you started it for yourself? Once you start it it will track.

[regal sparrow]

after play lady dora, he can track the tuvalkane misson and wolf misson , but not me

[regal sparrow]

yes i play alone

[smoky crater]

I would highly suggest doing to fables solo

A

[smoky crater]

He's done something you havent then

[quasi ledge]

👆

[regal sparrow]

same misson why LOLL

[spring folio]

how to pick up this thing? in crpyt

[regal sparrow]

so the tuvalkane and the wolf is special, only you do sth interact in the map, it will reveal?

[smoky crater]

You dont pick that up, you bring something to it

[spring folio]

nvm i figure it out

hehe

[ashen jewel]

wtf is this man, this bear fight is driving me insane, I looked up on youtube people kill it in like 10 sec lol I am hitting it for 2-3 min and barely do any dmg Why did the game tell me to do this ffs

[queen kayak]

I have a totem that has a 1 in 10 smite on kick. My guy only performs upper cuts yet the controller mapping says Y for kick. So does my punch still count as kick?

[ashen jewel]

what am I supposed to do now ? go out and kill random mobs on the map to try and level ?

[tropic gyro]

hey does anyone know the dog/hounds weakness? seem super overpowered compared to the soldiers. they attack and close ground quicker than them and do like 4x the damage

[sturdy nova]

you don't NEED to do the bear fight, just because the game leads you to it. You can do whatever you want, whenever you want in this game. Level up your preferred weapon, level up your pact, unlock more skills in skill-tree, equip runes/totems and come back when you feel strong enough

[ashen jewel]

hmm I guess, but the open world feels so meh to me some random camps which dont drop nothing, I feel the same power after 5h in the game, dunno guess this type of game aint for me, back to warframe 😄

[sturdy nova]

you do you 😉

[rapid wren]

are there supposed to be main story missions you get after the deer fight thing?

it just took me to my faction and now i only get faction quests

that's what yall are talking about i think? i suppose you just have to explore and find further main storyline quests? this wolf and bear stuff for example

sry ive only been playing a few days as well

[spring folio]

i just knew theres is a ball like in elden ring in this game

[fallen agate]

Soulframe doesn't exactly hold your hand when it comes to questing.
You have 2 options. Avoid spoilers and explore on your own and you might find some cool stuff including new quests.
Or option 2 ... just look it up online ^^

[sturdy nova]

Soulframe is all about exploring, discovering and it will all come to you eventually. There's no "direct" path you need to take, just enjoy, explore every part of the map 🙂

[brisk iris]

I was struggling yesterday with that fight. I left and leveled up my weapons and pact and the fight was a lot easier after that.

[rapid wren]

so explore got it 🙂

[fallen agate]

I mean xD there is a VERY direct path you can take xD what you mean? xD

[pure walrus]

how good is mendicant king armour?

[fallen agate]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Armour

[waxen veldt]

Yeah, did it on third try. Was a little harder then expected considering my weapon levels . You should level up weapons & pact before trying ^^

[real thicket]

for some reason i can't find this last person did it bug?

[prime quartz]

this door wont open, i got teleported back to the beginning and now its stuck is this a bug?

[rapid wren]

btw 24 hrs to craft a necklace is wild heh, i get they need to make $ but wow

[pure walrus]

also - are there set bonuses?

[fallen agate]

Not really. In Warframe is 72 hours on some stuff ... ^^

[rapid wren]

im new to this so still shocked 😄 fair enough though

[fallen agate]

Yeah if you come from other games were crafting is instant its ... a bit of an adjustment ^^

[smoky crater]

Welll. Warframes and equivalents only

[real thicket]

who knows they might change the crafting time in the future

its on alpha after all

[fallen agate]

Right ... so ... the most important things aka classes ^^

[smoky crater]

But also there's so much to do in that game that you barely notice it

Unless you're like... Hyperfocused on it

[icy topaz]

The real pain of crafting times is Clash of Clans

[fallen agate]

i hope not because the only way i see them changing it would be increasing it >.< i rather have 27 hour crafts for pacts than 72 ones o.o

[smoky crater]

That's very true

[rapid wren]

it's an interesting model, rather than "pay to win" it seems to be "pay to not wait"

[smoky crater]

That's pretty much exactly what it is yeah

[rapid wren]

which is definitely preferable imo

but less ideal than "just pay for the game to begin with"

[sinful axle]

I mean its definitely a mix a both since you can straight up buy fully crafted gear in the shop

[fallen agate]

Yeah but with the 2 strongest classes currently being part of the "starters" is also quite wild.

[rapid wren]

i do see the upsides though, attract more players etc

[smoky crater]

Tho i'd rather have a free game with mtx than a paid for game with mtx

[vale rivet]

Question. What the hell is pull strike or am I missing some very obvious clue? am maining Oscelda right now and yee

[smoky crater]

But you can still get all of it by grinding.

[rapid wren]

yeah if anyone wants to explain smite and pull smite i would really appreciate also

[sinful axle]

Hold q and left click when an enemy glows

[smoky crater]

Have you done torment stag yet? Should be taught during that

[vale rivet]

[vale rivet]

the one with french rat lady?

[patent copper]

When we reach the specified camp's(Alca's Chidren) reputation in this game
We need to provide the items needed for upgrading (like in Warframe), or will it just auto - upgrade?

[smoky crater]

Non

[smoky crater]

Auto upgrade but you do still require standing to rankup

[fallen agate]

Pull Smite you mean?
So each weapon has a "smite chance" its pretty much their version of "critical strikes" but instead of doing a bunch of additional damage you make the "soul" open up and can do direct damage to it.
You will see the enemy glow when that happens.
There is also an enemy type that only dies when you destroy its soul (with pull smite) after he went "down"

[rapid wren]

and then "smite" is also an art for my dagger sidearm?

how does one "pull smite" vs "smite"

[vale rivet]

ahh i didntorment stag. after running around lvl20 area for 3 hours just killing stuff so I guess i just steamrolled it and didnt notice.

the beauty of open world games

[vale rivet]

[patent copper]

kk ty

[brisk bay]

Anyone know who drop Nurash, Stultin and tessard?

[fallen agate]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[tropic gyro]

tryna do a quest but the bird doesnt go anywhere then i go to my tent and then it goes somewhere different everytime i come back to the normal world

[fallen agate]

Think it would be easier if you just said which quest you are on to give some guidance.
Since the bird behaviour shouldn't be like that ^^ But nothing much we can do about that.

[tropic gyro]

yeah sorry for being vague

[sinful axle]

Smite is spawning the orb on the enemy, pull smite is pulling the orb out of the enemy

[tropic gyro]

mission: an invitation

[fallen agate]

Which starter pact did you grab? Sirin by chance? 😄

[tropic gyro]

the magey one lol

[fallen agate]

Oh the Green one? okay

[tropic gyro]

all the quest says is "Sparrow bids ye follow... a prize?" thats the whole description

[fallen agate]

So the Invitation quest is the introductionary quest for factions. It depends on what you did. The bird should lead you a cave.

[tropic gyro]

yeah odd. ive done the stag boss etc so far

it took me to a cave for that

[rapid wren]

so i do NOT need to hold q to smite, just to pull smite?

[tropic gyro]

oh well ill just roam and do random stuff for now lol

[shut stratus]

Mockeries

[rapid wren]

i was holding q and clicking them, then they glowed but that was it, like i could do it again and nothing

[fallen agate]

||https://wiki.avakot.org/An_Invitation||
||You can check the walkthrough for it. But usually it should lead you to a cave which has a shrine in it which requires you to find a specific flower.||

[patent copper]

how to understand smite 3/50

[shut stratus]

Math, school

[tropic gyro]

thats so strange because its getting me to just go fight random small camps and then going somewhere different if it guides me at all

[rapid wren]

tfw i crafted this dagger then realize it's a "weapon" not a "sidearm" bah

[tropic gyro]

the other quests work so ill just do those for now

[patent copper]

🤖

[fallen agate]

It literally tells you right below it xD 6% chance of smite xD

[patent copper]

[fallen agate]

random small camps? not the same one? huh ...

[tropic gyro]

yeah its taken me to 4

[vale rivet]

so that is what those weird flying things above corpses are

[fallen agate]

I mean the factions are rather important so i'd recommend going for them 😄

Worst case check a youtube video on the quests itself?

That should lead you to the right thing regardless.

[rapid wren]

it's a sparrow icon on your compass right?

[tropic gyro]

yeah, just kinda force the quest to work lol

[tropic gyro]

yerp most of the time

[rapid wren]

are the camps in the same general area? or like way far apart

[tropic gyro]

like a couple hundred meters

[rapid wren]

the faction thing should be in a cave...

[sly hemlock]

is the bear boss the MSQ ending for now?

[tropic gyro]

yeah i think ill just see where it is, travel there and see if i can force it to activate or something maybe?

[rapid wren]

but you also get faction quests after you find it, where it directs you to... well go kill small camps lol

[tropic gyro]

lol fair, thanks guys :)

[rapid wren]

the faction quests will have a different icon though, not the bird

mine is a rose, youre in a diff faction so will be something else

i was thinking maybe you already did the faction quest and didnt realize it

[fallen agate]

is the icon for oscelda pact starter

[rapid wren]

cause i did the faction invitation thing and was like... umm ok that's all?

but then i saw the faction quests popping up

[fallen agate]

but then the quest wouldn't be in journal anymore ^^

[rapid wren]

ah yes good point

im not far past that, still getting used to things 🙂

[fallen agate]

is faction xp scaling with area level? i never paid attention to it ... o.o

[tropic gyro]

yeah its a bit strange. idk either, i thought i was just missing something maybe

[rapid wren]

now ive just been doing the faction quests

[rapid wren]

yeah it seems to give me more for harder areas

[sinful axle]

Think of smite like a critical hit

[fallen agate]

No you do not.
But smite itself kinda does not "much" except open up the possibility for a heavy hitting attack with pull smite.

[rapid wren]

so to pull smite i hold q and left click?

[fallen agate]

have oyu been to glades yet?

[rapid wren]

i was going around doing that without any indication they were "smited"

yeah i did the deer thing but apparently i missed the lesson lol

[fallen agate]

let me rephrase that question, have you seen these enemies yet?

[rapid wren]

i was going around holding q on all mobs and spamming left click

[sinful axle]

I'm pretty sure its not explained? I also missed it and only learned much later

If its explained then its terribly explained lol

[rapid wren]

sometimes it did something, sometimes it did nothing and i died so i kinda gave up on it

[jovial lion]

anyone has a spare key please

[fallen agate]

check dms

[brave wing]

and how do you pull smite? Cuz I checked the keybinds and say mouse 1, but do nothing. I'm missing something for sure

[rapid wren]

ye i hope by the time this game hits later stages in development there are far more detailed tutorials built in

[fallen agate]

You hold down Q and then use Mouse 1.

[brave wing]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[rapid wren]

and/or tool tips

[blazing swift]

there are totems that increase damage to smitten enemies, so it can still be useful without being pulled

[fallen agate]

But again that is only important for mockeries (to finish them off)

[brave wing]

Gotta love DE not explaining much in their games

[rapid wren]

also why is "smite" an art for my dagger if anything can trigger it

[fallen agate]

Or to actually pull smite if you have a smite proc (but smite builds are kinda meh currently imo so ... eh)

[dapper talon]

Is any of this worth it or what is that currency best spend on?

[rapid wren]

i mean im 44yrs old yall so i DO kinda like the nostalgia of "ask someone else who played it" vs looking things up on wikis 🙂

[fallen agate]

I mean, most people buy pact slots and weapon slots first ^^ so you do not run out of space.

[shut stratus]

How are smite builds meh, if you don't want to rely on pacts, it's the strongest build

[brave wing]

i assume premium currency is better to get slots like in warframe

[dapper talon]

Ah yes i forgot that was a thing ok ty.

[brave wing]

you start with 200 i think

[blazing swift]

personally I think this game should stay minimalistic, minimum ui and tons of mystery and secrets, not number crunching everywhere like WF

[fallen agate]

I mean, i get that. But wikis are there for a reason xD lots of times my answer to a specific question is just the wiki link. Since its faster ^^

[dapper talon]

Oof you only start with 2 pact and 5 wep capacity.

[brave wing]

being minimalistic doesn't means you don't even know how the mechanics work

[reef pebble]

anyone know where to get scrap steel and gossamer quartz?

[fallen agate]

https://wiki.avakot.org/ just type it into search and it will list all the dropsources

[shut stratus]

Increases damage and smite chance

[fallen agate]

True.
They don't even explain how Virtues interact with abilities.
Just like in warframe they do scale ... at least some do. Not all tho xD

[blazing swift]

pretty sure soul mode mechanics were taught? but if not then yeah. tutorial should be indepth. but besides that i'd love if we kept the secrecy and discovery phase as long as we could. kinda missing that in games with datanimes and overload of info everywhere

[rapid wren]

so when upgrading pacts, there are 1-3 little balls under the main one if that makes sense

are those upgrades or do you need all of them filled to get the ability

related: how to actually use pickpocket ability

[fallen agate]

You can invest additional points into it.

afaik all pact upgrades are passive things.

[blazing swift]

more levels into passive better it is

[earnest stone]

Yeah they just make the ability better

[rapid wren]

ok so just the main one filled in i still get the ability gotcha

was worried about that... and ya how to pickpocket then?

[fallen agate]

you don't

thats not a thing currently o.o

[rapid wren]

the skyrim player in me wants to pickpocket 😄

[brave wing]

can you upgrade those passive pact tree fully? with no limit?

[earnest stone]

The wiki is quite helpful about the pact abilities https://wiki.avakot.org/Pacts

[plush tartan]

Only wyld ones you can fill out fully

[blazing swift]

that is definitely a thing

[fallen agate]

No you get 30 points per "pact"
Aka if you own Oscelda you have 30 points available.
If you own Oscelda and Wyld Oscelda you have 60

[weak bear]

You only get 30 unless it’s a wyld pact then it’s 60

[fallen agate]

Okay not once have had to pickpocket anything ... how is it a thing? 😄

[blazing swift]

just get close to the enemy, i can't remember if you need to be invis

[blazing swift]

have you played sirin

[earnest stone]

Sirin has a pickpocket ability

[fallen agate]

yeah got all pacts on 30 ... hence why i am surprised xD

[plush tartan]

Whats the point in pickpocketing when i can just kill them

[rapid wren]

I will eventually consult the wiki but especially as this game is pre alpha i want to limit my knowledge from online and keep to my own experience or other players' advice. I feel like I can provide better feedback from that perspective.

[blazing swift]

another chance for a drop

[plush tartan]

Ah

[rapid wren]

I stand there invis next to them and it just gives the option to sneak attack and nothing new once i got the pickpocket ability?

[plush tartan]

Can you pickpocket a deer? 😂

[earnest stone]

It's probably like Ivara in Warefram - 'pickpocket' can cause them to drop loot from their loot table, and them killing them does the same again

[blazing swift]

with fully upgraded pickpocket it takes like 2 seconds standing by the enemy for the loot to pop out of them

[rapid wren]

ok this is very helpful ty

[blazing swift]

it's automatic

[rapid wren]

Gotcha, so I just need to be sneakier and get closer before activating my invis

[fallen agate]

Does it work on bosses? if not ... seems kinda pointless ._.

[rapid wren]

i just wanna say great community here so far! Everyone seems so eager to help each other and not be jerks 🙂

[blazing swift]

I was sure I saw it somewhere but couldn't recall where. this is exactly what it is yeah. you crawl around enemies and they poop out loot

[rapid wren]

the Q&A chat in a full release of the game would be... spam city i assume but rn it's great

[plush tartan]

slips on the latex gloves right then stag boy time to drop some extra loot

[blazing swift]

I seem to recall people recommending it when new joineries were introduced and were hard to farm

but probably not Agari level bosses

[brave wing]

mommy warframe raised up correctly

[plush tartan]

Ive not played warframe in like 10 years, maybe ill give it another go, i didnt get far

[rapid wren]

never played warframe OR any souls games, im here because my friend is a founder and im really loving the game so far!

[earnest stone]

Warframe is so good. It has issues with helping you work out what to do, and how systems work. And content islands where they make something really cool and never touch it again. But it's got so much to offer

[rapid wren]

i recall downloading it (warframe) for switch i think and forgetting to ever try it

[brave wing]

well, this game has nothing to do with the souls franchise. But yes, Warframe community is very tight and supportive too

[earnest stone]

I've played WF off and on for 11 years and it's so good to know that I can put it down for 6 months, come back and play for a while - etc

[plush tartan]

looks at the name of the game um

[fallen agate]

I mean, besides the fact that it goes very hard in its combat direction.
Not that souls games came up with it but its known as souls like combat for a reason ^^

[rapid wren]

im mainly into Splatoon 3 for switch rn if anyone also plays that def hmu so we can be friends on two games! (edit: by into i mean thousands of hours and im a tournament organizer)

[brave wing]

i grinded so hard Warframe when I was a PS4 user that I farmed Volt Prime and didn't touch it again since then. Prob 8 years ago o more

[plush tartan]

What puts me off WF is so e things are perma unavailable and the collector in my cant stand thst lol

[earnest stone]

They've eased up a lot of the more paintful grindy stuff over time

[fallen agate]

? perma unavailable?

[earnest stone]

MOst things now, you grind for a while and either what you want will drop or you will have gained enough of a secondary currency to buy what's missing

[weak bear]

Excal prime

[plush tartan]

Excalibur prime

[weak bear]

Lato prime and skana prime aswell

[earnest stone]

You can't really collect everything in WF anyway, not without seriously rinsing it

[plush tartan]

But i could try! 😂

[brave wing]

meh, any game with 3rd person perspective, melee combat, magic, enemies, bosses and such it's not a soulslike. I don't quite understand why people now categorize any of those games like "souls". Souls is not a genre. They are called action rpg

20 years ago, the PS2 Prince of Persia games where not souls, but action hack and slash. Same for Castlevania game from PS3. The new God of War and Ragnarok are also action RPG

[plush tartan]

But…. Its called Soulframe haha its clearly meant to be elden ringframe

[earnest stone]

Obviously the name starting with "Soul..." leads people to think that, and the visual and narrative style aren't a million miles away. But the combat isn't trying to be the same, it's important to realise

[vagrant kayak]

Soulslike is a genre, so is action RPG
Lies of P is an action RPG and a Soulslike
Soulframe is an action RPG but not a Soulslike

[plush tartan]

The combat is a bit more gothic / elex to me

[blazing swift]

played since the time TotalBiscuit did WTF is Warframe. Rip.

[brave wing]

i run into a video earlier with a thumnail saying "it's not a souls game"

[vagrant kayak]

It's just the Souls series is one of the most popular action RPG series right now so people will say "Soulslike" when they mean "Action RPG"

[blazing swift]

but recently i come back less often

[wild rover]

Yeah, the Soul is misleading
Ain't it at all

[plush tartan]

Rip tb

[fallen agate]

Yes but the terminology still is valid.
The playstyle of Soulframe reminds more of elden ring than warframe ^^ at least for now without too much power creep.
Tho with tethren being tethren and oscelda being oscelda they kinda break the mold.

Nothing wrong with calling it either.

[halcyon thicket]

Someone said the soul in soulframe is meant to be the opposite of war in Warframe, as in peace vs war

[rapid wren]

secret of mana ftw

[wet portal]

idk if im too early in game but im reading no gothic notes whatsoever lol

[halcyon thicket]

Which makes sense for it's slow paced gameplay

[fallen agate]

Not like most "genres" still have meaning with all the mixes we get these days.

[vagrant kayak]

I wouldn't say Soul is misleading, soul is a word in the English language Fromsoft does not have a monopoly on 😛

Also most Soulslikes don't even have soul in their name...

[plush tartan]

Might be cause i only play melee tethren

[wet portal]

and the main mechanic has to do with smiting and sucking souls lol

[earnest stone]

looks at the huge list of Ode I've already slaughtered... riiiight

[brave wing]

I refuse 😤 Soulslike are a subgenre tho

[onyx narwhal]

I too got an unprompted friend request from them, so yeah, one does not simply "accidentally" send friend requests to multiple people. Scam alarm bells went off just from it being an unprompted friend request, and found this convo while checking the legitimacy of this "person". Discord report it is.

[tulip egret]

i feel like soulframe is closer to a walking simulator

its like its own thing

[jagged hound]

This probably gets asked a lot but I can't find any posts, what's the difference between share and no share on boss groups?

[vagrant kayak]

It's the second Frame-type game

[wet portal]

just get the shewolf pact tbh

become your own mount

[vagrant kayak]

Share means you and 2 others take turns hosting to get 3 chances at the boss, no share I imagine means "Hey my boss is up, if you want come join for a chance at rewards but you don't have to share yours"

[tulip egret]

i hope theyre gonna continuously work on the same continent though

[onyx narwhal]

from what I gathered: when sharing, after defeating the boss, you switch hosts and do said boss(es) in the others' worlds too

[rapid wren]

the silliest thing about this game imo and again i really really like it so far, is the direct ocarina ripoff

[plush tartan]

Soulframe is chronicles of riddick necromongers invading medieval ireland and getting their ass kicked by dr dolittle

[tulip egret]

one of the biggest failings of open worlds in most MMOs are how empty they are

[rapid wren]

like cmon at least make it a different instrument

[jagged hound]

Ooh thanks guys ^^ I didn't want to join a group and mess up somehow

[tulip egret]

Soulframe is like somewhere along the way there

so i hope they just keep on dumping more and more content to the current world

rather than just making another open world that is gonna be empty at the start

[plush tartan]

Ok now im having mental images of charming bambi with an electric guitar and im here for it

[tulip egret]

basically the orb vallis syndrome of WF

id say GW2 has some of the best overworlds though

[brave wing]

but soulframe, like warframe, was never meant to be an MMO where you see people around. I think it will be cool, but it's not there by design i guess

[odd moon]

How do I use joineries?

[tulip egret]

if we're talking about purely open world MMO, GW2 is the best in industry about it

someone get steve to play 100 hours of GW2

[rapid wren]

when i first found my enclave i saw other ppls names and was like wtf did i accidentally join something and logged out 😄

[tulip egret]

100% theres a lot of good lessons in GW2 to integrate into Soulframe

[plush tartan]

Steve prolly listened to too mich Nightwish and wanted to make a game about them

[sturdy nova]

POV: ***ONE ***Wevetseed per 24 hours for fast travel, really takes away the meaning of "fast" travel IMO. If the game was fully released, AND you had mounts, then yeah maybe, but in Alpha it makes no sense (until mounts are added). They should really up the drop rate for those. When you have been playing for 100+ hours, it becomes are tedious core to get around the map, even more so when more map will unlock. Just my humble opinion

[brave wing]

yeh, there's hub, but that's just where you can see other people in the world

[tropic nacelle]

people rely on fast travel to much, just enjoy the journey and explore

[tulip egret]

i mean the criticism of having to travel on foot to grind is also valid

GW2 alleviates that by making mount movement very fun

its basically the warframe mobility but open world

[fallen agate]

i got 4 yesterday o.o

[plush tartan]

I dont see the point in making an open world if you want to teleport around it. Just go back to the hub and instance model of WF if you want that

[blazing swift]

I recently came back after 2 years, finally finished crafting 2 legendary armor pieces, finished Nayos part of Soto and started Janthir. GW2 has always been great

[tulip egret]

definitely agree with the teleports being against the point of SF, but apart from enjoying the exploration, the traverse options also needs to be fun

[tropic nacelle]

exactly, i think make it a bit more populated in terms of camp variety and enemy variety and your good, people just dont have patience of exploring

[ember dagger]

does the "-x" in items after quest/tale really imply u lost a material/item or is it just a visual bug?

[tropic nacelle]

traversal is fun if your not trying to go A > B

[shut stratus]

You didn't, you can't get 4

[plush tartan]

I think when they flesh out the world more and we have lots of biomes and areas itll be less of a gripe

I mean we probably just on the starter tutorial island for alpha testing

[blazing swift]

I do feel like we should've gotten mounts before thinking of fast travel

[tulip egret]

honestly i hope they never leave the starter island

populate the island more

[plush tartan]

Its a bit small to set a whole game on

[tulip egret]

dont expand outwards, expand inwards

[tropic nacelle]

@plush tartan no this is the main continent from what i know it will expand the tutorial area was added this prelude

[plush tartan]

Really? Itll get stale pretty quickly its a very small game world

[tropic nacelle]

the map will expand

[fallen agate]

Some people do not find it enjoyable to spend 25 minutes walking without doing anything just to reach that one encounter they wanna do xD
Like i would agree with you if the world would be filled with meaning full things to do. But it isn't. Yes its a very early and the game is not even released.

But once you reached a certain level of gear, most of the open world encounters become usless. Waste of time. Since there aren't any rewards you still need.
So its mostly Open World bosses farming. Be it in Cogah or normal mode. And just running inbetween them feels not great.

A mount or a better fast travel system would help a lot with that. At least for me.

[blazing swift]

if you don't think we'll get the world expanded then idk lol

[tulip egret]

the map can expand but rn theres plenty of things that could be filled in with soulframe's current continent

[plush tartan]

The southeast is pretty sparse

[tropic nacelle]

also the map will be expanding upwards aswell

[barren escarp]

this is excatly how I feel rn

[tulip egret]

again, to draw direct inspirations from GW2, people actually live in the world, we dont see any NPCs actually having a life in Alca

all we see are: enemies and faction npc

[tropic nacelle]

gw2 is not a good idea theres alot wrong with that game

[plush tartan]

Hoping thats a temporary problem but if its true this is all the landmass we are getting thats a little worrying

[rapid wren]

the freaking mortar artillery things respawn too fast just wanna add that lol

[tulip egret]

extremely small portions of living NPCs

theres a lot wrong with GW2 but theres a lot worse inspirations to take open world lessons from in the industry

[tropic nacelle]

the only thing they can do is add a mount system to this thats just a basic horse style transportation

[rapid wren]

there's one near the rose faction base and the respawn point is like right next to it and omg

[barren escarp]

1st mount is gonna be a wolf

[plush tartan]

You know what i’d like? Sparrow travel. Like let us fly about in sparrow form as fast travel

[tropic nacelle]

im aware

[tulip egret]

i mean, even wolf movements can be fun

little wolf drifts

[barren escarp]

ok, when you said horse style im like huh?

[thin sonnet]

anyone know why i keep seeing my bow "level up" when completing things but when i go back to level up combat skills theres no additional perk points

[tulip egret]

hoppy runs, bouncy sprints

[tropic nacelle]

it will be a basic horse style mounting system with a jump

[smoky crater]

But the wolf can attack

[tropic nacelle]

i doubt they will do that

[plush tartan]

You dont get points every level

[tulip egret]

would be disappointing if they dont at least try to make mount mobility fun

[tropic nacelle]

its upgrading the bows passives

[blazing swift]

there are also indoctrinated villagers that scream for ode as soon as you touch them

[tulip egret]

they made warframe, they can pull off fun mount movements, doesnt necessarily have to be fast

[smoky crater]

You only get combat art points when it says + Arts on the level up notification

[scenic solar]

So, am I doing something wrong, or is leveling factions really just this damn slow....

[fallen agate]

I mean, even if they expand the map, that would just mean more walking between bosses.
And i just don't see how they could make the normal open world stuff valuable enough that players who are farming for specific things in the endgame still care about.

Just look at warframe, most people skip the enemies in sorties and just run from point a to point b as quickly as possible skipping everything that can be skipped.

Like the bosses are fun, even tho 2 of the pacts currently make it pretty much a cakewalk even in cogah. But i really do hope that we will get at least a mount or some other form of quicker transportation ^^
Tho, with the soulframe riding on the wolf i think mounts are pretty much certain at this point. ^^

[thin sonnet]

Well ive exclusively used bow now since I got access on the 25th and I only have 4 perk points...

[smoky crater]

No we already have seen the wolf having the ability to attack

[tulip egret]

Alca can definitely fit a lot lot more content than we currently have right now

[smoky crater]

We're getting other islands.

[ashen rapids]

anyone help me with this boss pls im stuck in here

[plush tartan]

I think maxing a weapon gets you 5 weapon points?

[barren escarp]

you have to use other bow weps to get more points if you arent

[strange gazelle]

Every fully leveled weapon give 5 points for combat arts, so roughly 1 every 6 levels. BUT, whenever a weapon levels up it gets a "+" on some stats (stagger; damage and so on)

[tropic nacelle]

inv me, "Jinova"

[smoky crater]

Yes

[thin sonnet]

Got it so I have to use the other bows

[ashen rapids]

i send u a request

[plush tartan]

I havent figured out how people get so much faction either, i play a lot and i think i have just got to the 1st rank up in my faction, im miles off buying anything

[silk prawn]

OMG thank you..... this is totally camoflagued as an option (or perhaps its just me 😅 )

[spring folio]

ill help u

[tropic nacelle]

didnt get one

[fresh orchid]

Hey folks, do DE allow us to do multiple factions yet or get rewards from them somehow? Or still just a single faction?

[smoky crater]

Just 1 at a time

[fresh orchid]

At a time, so you can switch now?

[blazing swift]

yep

[fresh orchid]

Sweet

[smoky crater]

Have always been able to switch

[fresh orchid]

Not when they came out?

[smoky crater]

Literally since factions were added

[tulip egret]

if you enter a different instance and do faction tales of that instance

do you get reputation for different faction

[smoky crater]

No. For yours only

[brave wing]

where can I change game language? It's half translated for me and it's kinda annoying

[tulip egret]

ah so its purely like warframe standing

[smoky crater]

You can change language on the launcher

[strange gazelle]

top right in the launcher

[silk prawn]

Is there an ideal loaction to charm animals, its an area ive neglected?

[brave wing]

true. missed thanks. thanks

[brisk iris]

I just have been getting them while roaming

[plush tartan]

I free them from camps so i dont have to do the ocarina of time bit

[smoky crater]

Rats you can really only find at marked locations or the undercity

[barren escarp]

yea mostly towns and castles fr

also in dermak ofc

[dapper talon]

Why does it say i got 6000 standing for alca but only gives me 450 XD

[brisk iris]

I think you dont get the upgrade mats that way. Only downside

[plush tartan]

True

[brave wing]

and another question. can I reduce or remove the head bobbing when running?

i can't find any on settings

[ashen rapids]

can u spam in the world chat

[barren escarp]

head bobbing? huh

[plush tartan]

Think they are bugged for long blade anyway, ive never seen the third totem animal for long blade

[smoky crater]

It's a weird system atm. It shows you the amount of standing you've spent on rankups + what you actually have available to spend

[smoky crater]

I dont think so but you can turn off screenshake from accessibility settings

[dapper talon]

Then it should say 7,6k but its still innacurate even in that way.

[balmy cargo]

I walked across the map and Im low level with lv 30 mobs all around me I dont have the map unlocked and the bird just leads me to super strong enemies

[brave wing]

okey, that's a bit better

[balmy cargo]

idk what to do

[tropic nacelle]

assuming your name is the same in game i sent you a request

[brisk iris]

Look for the big trees with spears in them

[brave wing]

open journal. do you have any qeusts there?

[brisk iris]

Can faintly see the trees on the map if you zoom in

[ashen rapids]

Revenancerr u can search that

[balmy cargo]

no

[earnest stone]

Run to the middle west of the map for lower level enemies

[balmy cargo]

ok Ill try

[tropic nacelle]

added

[balmy cargo]

theres a giant wall tho

[tropic nacelle]

dudes ping is 600ms

[barren escarp]

you can also use https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12 shows world tree locations

[balmy cargo]

ty

so theres no way to teleport back then?

[ashen rapids]

can u teach me how

[barren escarp]

teleport back to what?

[balmy cargo]

idek idk what Im supposed to be doing

[tropic nacelle]

your ping is to high that it wont let me join lol

[balmy cargo]

Im just getting spawn camped 😭

[plush tartan]

Hey! Big legs! Anyone wonder about the minigame avakot has? Doesn’t seem much point to it, wondering what they spent pre alpha dev time on it

[barren escarp]

we just told you lol

[tropic nacelle]

wanna inv me and i can help ya

[barren escarp]

inv me too actually

[balmy cargo]

sure

[tropic nacelle]

name is same as discord

[brisk iris]

Just a neat little mini game

[worn portal]

Can someone please explain this to me?

Okay so we have 3 classes in the game, and their stats (courage, spirit, and grace)
!From what I understand:
-Courage gives more damage to auto-attacks.
-Spirit gives more duration to skills.
-Grace increases the area of effect of skills.

-So how can the other two classes (other than the courage class) increase their damage early on? It just seems a bit unfair that the courage stat is also a class which plays right into their damage.

Hopefully someone can explain to me, sorry for the long question 😅

[balmy cargo]

okay I just jumped over the walla nd tryna head west had some giant stag chasing me

[plush tartan]

Different skills scale off different stats

[tropic nacelle]

no, courage,spirit and grace are not classes they are your paths, the pacts are your classes combined with weapons

[brisk iris]

Royal game of ur is the game it's based off of

[tropic nacelle]

so if you focus spirit you want a spirit attuned weapon

[fallen agate]

The weapon damage is based on what the weapon is attuned with.
Not Courage.

[barren escarp]

inv me im ingame

[balmy cargo]

I thought I did

[barren escarp]

lufas?

[balmy cargo]

yes

[barren escarp]

oh ok

[tropic nacelle]

whats your in game name

[fallen agate]

Take Duhk Halic for instance. it IS a courage weapon. So investing into Courage will increase its damage for auto attacks and such through Courage.
The Royal Tines however are Spirit attuned so they get additional damage from spirit up to their cap (i heard throwing attacks and heavy attacks have a higher second cap, haven't confirmed that yet tho)

[balmy cargo]

lufas_maphaahl

[tropic nacelle]

added

[scenic solar]

I still say they need to get all the UI stuff from WarFrame in sooner than later so all this information isn’t so obtuse

[thin sonnet]

inv

[tropic nacelle]

keep that stuff in spoiler please some people havnt seen or been to that

[vital cipher]

mb forgot

[tall hatch]

Nice anime

[tropic nacelle]

all gd

[worn portal]

wait so for example a starting Tethren pact is no stronger than a starting
Oscelda pact with their respective attuned weapons?

[plush tartan]

He has a point though, like if i look at the oscelda arcanics, the damage on the birds and the bestone scale off courage, if you stacked spirit for a weapon your arcanics arent going to do anything

[tropic nacelle]

added you, should of a pending friend

[vital cipher]

fixed

[vital cipher]

full mb, and not host

[fallen agate]

Exactly

[thin sonnet]

u can pass host to others if u leave to ur own instance

[fallen agate]

Like in a 1to1 comparison.

Since Tethren has skills that make him a bit "stronger" in general currently. ^^ he is a bit op
So is Oscelda but... yeah

[barren escarp]

@balmy cargo are you able to see squad chat?

[plush tartan]

Im still confused as i only play tethren and i just put everything in courage and all my arcanics scale off courage, no idea what the other pacts do when their arcanics all scale off courage but they using spirit or grace

[barren escarp]

@tropic nacelle @balmy cargo what are yall doing lmao?

[plush tartan]

Seems to me like ur better off just using courage weapons and splurge into that no matter what pact ur using

[tropic nacelle]

i have no clue what they need help with

[balmy cargo]

idk I have no quests

[worn portal]

then why would an Oscelda pact for example ever invest into the courage stat? other than if they got a skill that scales off of it ofc.

[barren escarp]

so you just randomly started running Im looking at yall on the map

[tropic nacelle]

this is where i spawned with them

[plush tartan]

2 of oscelda arcanics scale off courage

[barren escarp]

yeah ik

[balmy cargo]

yeah I did figured I would be able to just return where I came from T_T

[barren escarp]

are you able to see squad chat?

[balmy cargo]

I can only see my messages

[tropic nacelle]

what are you trying to do

[balmy cargo]

Trying to figure out what Im supposed to be doing

[barren escarp]

wait what? so yu cant see squad chat in game?

im telling u rn in game lol

but im getting no reply

[scenic solar]

Now the important question, where the hell is that ever stated in game?

[balmy cargo]

nah Its glitched or something

[fallen agate]

There is little reason to. ^^

[plush tartan]

It isnt

Yet anyway

[balmy cargo]

I like purified some corrupted stag and I touched its head

[scenic solar]

That was the point of my comment

[barren escarp]

oooh wth.. 🤦‍♂️

[balmy cargo]

then ran out here with no idea whats going on

[tropic nacelle]

ooooooh i know whats going on

[plush tartan]

Fluffy bunny seems to think the opposite to me tho so im interested in why

[barren escarp]

are you able to see squad chat?

[plush tartan]

I dont really understand the virtue system at all

[tropic nacelle]

i am

but i cant see anyone but me typing

[tropic nacelle]

text chats been weird all day

[balmy cargo]

exactly same

[barren escarp]

ooooooh omg

[fallen agate]

yeah but the scaling is really minor so its whatever.

[tropic nacelle]

reinv me

[barren escarp]

do yall use VC then?

[tropic nacelle]

i can

[barren escarp]

ok

[balmy cargo]

I can

[fallen agate]

Like what you don't understand? ^^

[barren escarp]

called u

[worn portal]

okay wow, that is very interesting, wouldn't it make sense to then start Tethren pact (so your early game is a bit easier), and then craft the other pacts later on?

[knotty depot]

They provide stats but, afaik, the specifics of everything they affect aren't know (numbers especially), in part because those numbers probably aren't even final. Go off of vibes and you'll settle into a build

[fallen agate]

I mean currently Tethren is just brokenly op.
Like the strongest pact by a huge margin.

Oscelda is also really strong.

But it has less to do with their virtues and more with their abilities.

[misty pine]

guys is possible change the languaje to spanish?

[plush tartan]

Ok - weapons scale off virtues up to a cap, i understand that. But if i take say oscelda, none of that “spirit” themed pact’s abilities scale off spirit, they scale off courage. So why would i ever use any other stat? Just take any weapon and scale it to courage and get the pact scaling and weapon scaling

[knotty depot]

Duration scales with spirit. In most cases

Usually strength scales with courage, and range with grace

[plush tartan]

Why do i need duration for an ability that throws rocks at an enemy 😂

[knotty depot]

Affects how long they're stoned for

You aren't throwing rocks, you're turning the enemies into rocks

[fallen agate]

Yeah but they scale so little that it makes barley any difference to begin with.
And none of the abilities are real damage dealing abilities.

1 is an aoe stun you scale its duration with spirit.... it barely deals damage even if you go full courage xD
2 is a heal which scales with nothing
3 is a stagger attack, deals barely any damage to the hp but builds a lot of stagger.

[worn portal]

I agree, i just felt bad when my friends (they chose the other two starting classes) saw me decimate eveything, but they weren't having fun, so i am trying to help them, by understandign myself first 😄

[plush tartan]

Pardon my ignorance, its cause ive only played tethren and lean hard on fellust which doesnt have a duration

[knotty depot]

I believe Fellust is also an exception in that it doesn't have any spirit scaling at all

[fallen agate]

Fellust is broken, enjoy it while it lasts? xD pretty sure P13 will nerf it into the ground >.<

[plush tartan]

O literally put everything int courage and its worked well so far haha

[crystal cliff]

thats because fellust, i believe is a set number of attacks after activation rather than a duration, it lasts i think forever until you attack X times

[plush tartan]

Yes

[knotty depot]

I think it's 5?

[plush tartan]

Its nice

[reef pebble]

If I auto click in endless mode does it still have exp reduction?

[plush tartan]

I have never grouped cause ive never needed to, i just go hi boss whack dead

[smoky crater]

it do be

[fallen agate]

With Oscelda? yeah because her healing will carry you even with bad scaling on stuff xD
And again Virtues are more WEAPON scaling than ABILITY scaling.

Like on SOME you could make a point for more spirit for duration ... but currently its just more worthwhile to go single stat and scale your weapons like mad.

[plush tartan]

Naw tethren bunny

[dapper talon]

Hi peeps i ||unlocked the blacksmith ancestor|| and have no more quest indicators, how do i proc the next questline?

[blazing swift]

is needleseye from t2 or t3?

[dry fractal]

I am ready to crash out on this bear boss after 20+ deaths. This thing feels insanely off.

[fallen agate]

No the issue is simply how much damage you deal with it xD like if you can kill ALL Cogah bosses in ONE rotation with pretty much ANY weapon EVEN the ones that do not scale with your Virtue ... than yeah we have a problem.
Its also not based on weakpoint damage so bosses that do not have them are also a non issue ^^

The whole skill is just .... wild xD

[crystal cliff]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables

here is a resource that can tell you how to find the next set of quuests...or you can just keep exploring

[keen pasture]

are there runes with effects cooler than just heat damage

[dapper talon]

Ty!

[jagged ether]

t2

[crystal cliff]

i replied to the wrong comment meant to reply to the spirit scaling person

[fallen agate]

Either through exploration or you can google for them to find them quicker.

[knotty depot]

There's some that are arcanic or voltaic but all of them are just +[element] damage

[blazing swift]

are these updated? cause they messed them up on patch launch

[jagged ether]

this is from p12h6

[blazing swift]

ah ty ty

[jagged ether]

so current build

[keen pasture]

sadge

[fallen agate]

I mean the new Cogah runes have some neat stuff.

[zealous citrus]

Oh, I was wondering why it was so powerful
tried using fellust with a magic sidearm and broke the game in half

[knotty depot]

They took away my ode tempest zappy ball just to give me a flaming sword 😔

[keen pasture]

there are runes you get from running cogah??

[plush tartan]

Yeh every cogah boss drops one

[worn portal]

Alight so to kind of make sure i understand, if my Oscelda pact friend wants to increase his auto-attack damage, does he just use his correct attuned weapon? or does he also need to put some points into courage? and if yes then what is a good average number for that? XD

[fallen agate]

The Torrent
The Mistgale
The Hollowing
The Durglint
and
The Flitsmoke iirc are all Cogah exclusive ones

[plush tartan]

Auto attack will be weapon attune stat up to its cap

[worn portal]

so then increasing courage doesn't influence auto-attack damage like i have read online?

[plush tartan]

No

Not unless the weapon scales off it

[vagrant kayak]

Courage does not boost overall damage, it only boosts damage for Courage attuned weapons and for Pact abilities

[worn portal]

alight understood then ❤️

[fallen agate]

So if he has a weapon with Green Moons on it he wants to skill Spirit (i highly recommend spirit weapons for Oscelda)
Oscelda in general is really strong. Her 1 ability is an AOE stun that on first hit deals 2x damage.

So what people usually do is run Oscelda with Polearms and Perfect throw (Gathannan is a polearm that scales with spirit)
On a boss you then would use 1 to stun him and then perfect throw a polearm onto his weakpoint.

If done right that deals ABSURD amounts of damage. Like 2k+

[chilly flare]

is there a way to see where you planted ya flowers in the ehterium????

[worn portal]

okay is there a place where i can see all the skills and what they scale off of ?

[knotty depot]

They have this little symbol in the corner

[brazen sparrow]

the garden you have planted your flower on will have a little notch indicator on it

[fallen agate]

https://wiki.avakot.org/ has a lot of them

[languid lion]

the damage effect scales with courage

[knotty depot]

Okay? What's that got to do with spirit?

[shut stratus]

I have never seen a person being more wrong in several topics in succession in less than 1 hour

[languid lion]

mb reading comprehension

[fallen agate]

Please enlighten me then.

From direct testing that is exactly how it works.

[plush tartan]

Theres some nuance here though - the Oscelda stone spell says pertified enemies take 2x damage from your weapon but scales an extra 2% per courage point. So if i put in 30 point of courage that abiltity will now do 260% from your weapon.

[shut stratus]

Do I have to enlighten you on all wrong takes, or only this

[fallen agate]

Sure there is nuance there. You can play builds in different fashions. ^^

[fallen agate]

How about you start with that?

[plush tartan]

Cerulean there is a lot of ambiguity around virtues thats why we discussing it, i dont feel theres any need to be rude about it

[vagrant kayak]

Generally it's Courage = damage/strength Spirit = duration and Grace = range, but the wiki has most of the info as mentioned

[jagged ether]

that's how it works, also since I scrolled up a bit, oscelda's 3 scales with courage too, not directly, rather the "damage range" increases with courage

[shut stratus]

Bestone is one of the strongest, hardest hitting abilities in the game, next to ramp up Fellust and Bromius 1

[languid lion]

bestone adds a 2x damage multiplier to the next hit which scales with courage (i think soft cap currently of like 2.5x or something) saying it does barely any damage is crazy

[small mist]

Any recommendations for the best joinery for The Paragon?

[fallen agate]

Okay then show me a clip were the ABILITY itself hits hard. NOT the break from the weapon. But the initial hit. I will gladly retract my statement then.

[languid lion]

the break is part of the ability effect,,,

[jagged ether]

cap is 3.84x if you have 46 courage and an orengall user that buffs you with howl

[chilly flare]

has to be bugged cause i dont see the notch

[flat knot]

How do I upgrade my gear? Do I have to lvl it to 30 first?

[shut stratus]

Are you ragebaiting? The ability stones, it multiplies your next hit by 2x, stacking courage boosts that even further

[molten ocean]

Can anyone explain how purchasing from the random (think that is how its spelt) works? I have recently bought 20 quarts from them and never got anything

[fallen agate]

Sure, but what i describe earlier and was called out for, in a rather rude way, is me stating that the initial hit itself does not scale well.

[jagged ether]

how does the initial "stone" damage matter?

[languid lion]

the initial hit could literally do 0 damage it doesnt matter at all

[fallen agate]

Yeah that was my point it doesnt ...

[plush tartan]

So i suppose theres some build options here - you could go, for example, courage scaling high hitting weapon and invest in courage, and play oscelda as a heal tanking burst hitter, or stack spirit and go ranged and use the same ability as crowd control? Is that the intent?

[jagged ether]

you said "the ability does no damage"

not "the initial hit does no damage"

[shut stratus]

You said smite builds are bad too, when smite fishing builds are legimitate the strongest off-pact builds you can run

Perma powering your rune, dealing free 600+ upwards damage to every mob

[bold pumice]

free slow-mo and enemy flinching too

[jagged ether]

not really, spirit isn't gonna help oscelda, if that's still the topic at hand, much at all, courage is its primary scaling stat

[fallen agate]

Yeah i still think they fall short in what other builds accomplish.

[jagged ether]

what "other" builds do you speak of?

[languid lion]

spirit makes the healing thing last like 6 more seconds if you care about that

[plush tartan]

Doesnt spirit increase the petrify duration?

[shut stratus]

There is no other build?

[jagged ether]

elderbloom? that doesn't scale with anything

[fallen agate]

Got it. Okay my bad. Didn't know you can only play smite.

[languid lion]

yeah but it goes away in one hit and has a base 20 seconds duration anyway

[fallen agate]

Thats on me.

[plush tartan]

I see

[vivid lotus]

if you're running a build that doesn't incorporate a smite rn you're throwing 😭

[shut stratus]

Tell me a better one then

[jagged ether]

yes, but how does that matter, first hit breaks it

[mystic whale]

[jagged ether]

#gameplay-discussion message genuine answer?

[plush tartan]

I think the whole system needs work then, cause u pick a “starter” pact which on the surface is aligned with a virtue but turns out courage is the only one worth using anyway

[patent copper]

The meaning of this table is that the damage circled below is the maximum damage we can inflict?

[jagged ether]

yea, kinda doesn't make sense to run anything but courage on any pact

[brittle quiver]

Hi envoys, I hope you're doing well. I have a small issue and I would appreciate your help.
I'm trying to find a solution to locate my Founders Paragon Pack codes, specifically the invitation codes and the sword/blade codes, but I can't seem to find them anywhere. I’ve checked my account packages, but they’re not showing up, and I’m unsure where else to look.

[jagged ether]

it's the "attunement" cap, meaning the max your "base" damage can be when only accounting for virtues

[languid lion]

sirin is like the only one that has minimal use of courage that i can think of

[jagged ether]

you can still inflict more damage than that though

[brave wing]

I just discovered Alca Children enclave. How do I know if I'm already on a faction?

[sacred tusk]

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[crude valve]

depends on the virtue you chose at the start

[paper frost]

check your talisman

[rigid dome]

Fiiiiinally, this took so many kills.

Though I do be doing them solo - still think it's totally off that content that's deliberately timegated can get triple the rewards just by MPing. Either timegating is a design decision you stand behind, or it isn't.

[patent copper]

ok ty!

[toxic pilot]

grats longpig

[rigid dome]

Though I'mma have to grind 6 more fragements I guess as I'm liking Needleeye so prob want a courage, grace and spirit one of these as I don't have Paragon to use as a catchall.

[barren escarp]

that GS hits like a mac truck fr

[dry fractal]

Okay, I have been playing for less than 5 hours and I'm at this point convinced that I'm just not supposed to be doing this bear boss because the tuning is off the charts wrong. I want to go do something else but this is literally the only quest I have and my entire map is shrouded in fog of war, someone explain what I'm supposed to be doing because this can't possibly be the vision.

[lilac loom]

i ranked up my faction! what should i get?

[grizzled summit]

Who know how to got some Moranite? I spend to this 3 hours and got nothing

[crude valve]

There are trees you can find on the map (you should have seen one on the prologue) they lift this fog of war. Wander around and level before coming back for the quest

[barren escarp]

w.e u like either wep or color pallete

[rigid dome]

I've still gotta restock my totems for GSs, but even an un-joineried Needleseye felt pretty solid.

[jagged ether]

tales and crypt chests primarily

[dry fractal]

Wander around aimlessly looking for a tree?

[shut stratus]

@fallen agate Still waiting for that build 👴

[languid lion]

big fatass gray trees with a stick in them

[mellow umbra]

I encountered a massive bug during a boss fight and not sure what to do

[crude valve]

I dont know if its still the case but you should be able to see them slightly if you zoom in on the map or you can just look it up on avakot

[barren escarp]

Purity is even better

[dry fractal]

okay maybe the more pressing question is how to I leave the bear dungeon

[fallen agate]

You can wait for quite a bit longer then :3
Don't see much point arguing further.

[languid lion]

relog kicks you out of it pretty sure

[mellow umbra]

I'm in the bear boss and it's just sitting there

[shut stratus]

No one was argueing, you claimed things and are not backing it up :3

[fallen agate]

You got it :3

[dry fractal]

here's my map. I have no idea where I am and my goal is to start walking looking for a big gray tree?

[plush tartan]

Is there a max virtue cap or is it just tied to master level so just purely how much you grind?

[jagged ether]

cap is 46 for one stat currently, it's tied to a lot of different things, namely fables, max rank, best-in-slots, upgrades

[barren escarp]

use this https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12 shows you where they are

[smoky crater]

man it's been a while since i've seen this stage

[mellow umbra]

Do I log out? Unstuck didn't work

[crude valve]

Well kind of if you dont want any outside help like the map but you see on the top left of your screen you can see symbols through the fog, you might see some tree one if you look around the map

[barren escarp]

wait u already defeated it? you just gotta interact with him and get the seed out his body..

[mellow umbra]

Yeah I think?

[crude valve]

i think you have to interact with it at that point

[plush tartan]

Can you get 46 in all 3 stats

[languid lion]

no

[mellow umbra]

I tried

[loud relic]

how does fast travel work? Haven't been able to figure it out yet

[plush tartan]

Nah he bugged the bear out by killing it too quickly, haooened to me too

[barren escarp]

Wevetseed, u get 1-3 a day from your night fold

[barren escarp]

oh fr damn ok

[plush tartan]

You have to redo the fight and give it ti e to trigger the phases

*time

[crude valve]

might be bugged or might be a tricky interact popup

[loud relic]

do you use it from your inventory or what?

[languid lion]

from map

[crude valve]

hold on the tree you want to TP to

[barren escarp]

no open up your map

[loud relic]

ahhh gotcha thanks

[plush tartan]

46 max points to allocate then across all virtues?

[jagged ether]

also no

[languid lion]

no theres an amount of that thats from pact and fables and not allocatable, only put into one virtue automatically. most of it is allocatable though

[mellow umbra]

I think I damaged it too fast since I don't think he's supposed to have those heads

[jagged ether]

46 is just the effective virtue cap for a singular stat currently, again, it's a combination of a bunch of things, the effective total virtue cap is somewhere around 60, and the max you can manually "allocate" (not including gear and pact upgrades) is 21 +2 from fables

[crude valve]

oh yeah, guess you'll have to go easy on him

[loud relic]

does anyone know where the Garren Rood ancestor chick is at in your camp?

[smoky crater]

she's not there

[loud relic]

said she joined but cant find her

[crude valve]

you should have the pact now but she's not in the nightfold

[loud relic]

gotcha

[plush tartan]

Ok think i got it, thanks

[smoky crater]

hmmmm yeeees, screenspace reflections.

[mellow umbra]

It was my 7th try at him now I gotta fight him again 😭

[reef bronze]

is shit bugged?

[smoky crater]

yyyes. you threw the wrong grapple hook at the sproutfolk

[brave wing]

i just discovered alca children enclave. how do I know what faction i joined? don't see any menu for that

[reef bronze]

I would not call it the wrong one since it's the only one that can be thrown at it

[smoky crater]

it is the wrong one

that one's supposed to be used to rotate the tower in the middle.

[reef bronze]

the tower doesn't rotate

[smoky crater]

there's another one somewhere else that's mean to be used for the sproutfolk

[smoky crater]

it does

[reef bronze]

there's a bridge and you use the other one for the bridge

[crude valve]

You default faction is based on the pact you chose as the start : Tethren is Kith of kings, Sirin is Rose and Oscelda is avakot.

[jagged ether]

assuming you haven't switched yet, it's dependent on your starting virtue; kith of kings for courage, alca's children for spirit and rose for grace; once you switch, you either memorize it or go to check by interacting with any of them to see if they let you switch (keep in mind there's a 7d cooldown)

[barren escarp]

Oscelda is Alcas Children

[brave wing]

so Avakot is that little leafy thing right? I choose Oscelda so I assume im there? What if I wanna join another faction? Do I need to change the pact?

[barren escarp]

no need to change pact u needa make their talisman to join them

[reef bronze]

either way it's kinda bad that you can do that

thanks

[smoky crater]

then you can throw that into #1438224825113120788

[crude valve]

You need their pendant (i dont remember the slot name) which is crafted with a special item you get from faction shop at like level 3 i reckon

[brave wing]

okey thanks. this is a brand new account mostly so i got the enclave from the MSQ i think

[blazing swift]

man, the game needs some sort of hyper armor or something. getting 100 to 0 in one chainstun sequence that lasts for 10 seconds is sure fun

[barren escarp]

its called sproutfolk seed

[crude valve]

Also you know which faction you're in based on the what the faction tale guys are (if you forget after you changed)

[smoky crater]

or if you haven't changed, it's tied to whichever path you chose at the start, courage spirit or grace

[gilded onyx]

Where do you get the new bow rune?

[barren escarp]

oooh ok you call virtues paths lol....im like what are you talking about

[smoky crater]

well it's talked about as "path" in the current Rise, Envoy fable

[barren escarp]

aah ok from NPE? i might needa try that

[smoky crater]

mhm

[dapper talon]

Is there a fix to people being unable to join upon receiving an invite?

[barren escarp]

yep i think i needa try that NPE cuse that like the 3rd thing i wasnt aware of

[smoky crater]

one/both players restart game afaik

[barren escarp]

i have another acct that actually got an inv and i never used it

[dry fractal]

what is "pull smite"

[serene niche]

When enemy glows, hold Q then leftclick

[smoky crater]

aaaand there goes the first one

[smoky crater]

should be taught during the Torment Stag fable.

[dry fractal]

Uh, it did not

[smoky crater]

it's the same action as when you ||absorb the fire spirit that gives you the sword.||

[barren escarp]

idk why they changed it to "pull smite" instead of just saying "smite" but i guess its to make it more obvious that you pull to smite

[smoky crater]

so yes, it does teach it

[smoky crater]

because smite is what gets procced on the enemy, and that's what you "pull".

[crude valve]

maybe they are working on different types of smite, could be nice

[barren escarp]

I just said that and ok

[brave wing]

i noticed i have a few tales on the map now. So if I do those, i increase faction rep. But what about the necklace? i don't think i have it for Alca Children

[smoky crater]

yesyes

[barren escarp]

maybe

[crude valve]

you get fragment just like weapons and armor, i dont know from which mobs exaclty

[barren escarp]

what faction are you currently in?

[brave wing]

alca children i think. i choose Oselda pact at the beggining. I'm litreally doing the more or less tutorial right now. I just unlocked the blacksmith

[dry fractal]

That moment taught me that my sword inexplicably caught on fire for a period of time after sucking up a ghost, it did not teach me that this is the "pull smite" mechanic even if that was the intent.

[barren escarp]

ok so you already have sproutfolk seed talisman on you rn

[mystic whale]

I definitely read it as "so that's how you pull souls" and the Smite traits do say "expose the soul"

[smoky crater]

suppose it's a bit more unclear if you're using a longblade at the same time.

[barren escarp]

ooh lol i get it pull smite is when you actually pull it and smite is when you "expose the soul"