gameplay-discussion

[plucky junco]

no worries, and good luck

[solemn sequoia]

how do you tell how many pact/weapon slots you have

[plucky junco]

there's no way to check currently, until you hit the cap and try to claim something i think

[solemn sequoia]

gotcha

[leaden sand]

Could someone explain to me how world bosses work I went to four of the different world bosses and there wasn't anything there

[plucky junco]

i've been told some of them don't spawn until you finish certain story fables, but otherwise, they should just have a 3 hour cooldown between kills in your own world

[leaden sand]

I completed all fables besides the bear one

But does only one world boss spawn at a time or?

[plucky junco]

they should all be available at the same time, the cooldown timer should be separate for each one

there are a few fights during the waste bear that happen in places where world bosses spawn, so that may or may not affect it

[versed spoke]

Anyone know where to reliably farm Will-o-fronds? I'm just a few away from crafting my first Hue!

[calm ginkgo]

checking the preludes server for has: image will-o-wing, it looks like around the central cemetery is a decent spot, but it does require log-out farming any maybe a 20% spawn rate. Someone else pointed out a spot NW of Moray/ W and a touch south of the nearby World Tree

[regal shadow]

Here, in case you haven't found it https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440103546900185108

[versed spoke]

great, thanks! I’ll try this out after my class tomorrow

[rough island]

I found it but thanks!!

Another thing, I don't think it's a bug but when I'm in a cave/donjon or even under bridges when i get out I'm the sun unleashes all it's power to blind me is it something I did bad in parameters?

[regal shadow]

Personally I haven't encountered that, adjusting your graphics settings might help, if not, check bugs section if someone else encountered that before

[rough island]

Ok ok I will do that, thank you !

[distant jungle]

Maybe check bloom and turn it down if needed.

I wouldn't recommend turning it off as some lighting effects are tied to it being active, even if it's at 0.

So just turn it down until you're no longer being flashbanged by the sun.

[plucky junco]

if it's only happening when you're moving out of the shade or something and the sun becomes visible, that sounds like a bug

[distant jungle]

Idk why the ancestors not being smurfs is tied to bloom being on, but it is.

[fierce scaffold]

does anyone know where i can find the Ode'n Bisulcam? the wiki doesn't have anything and i struggle to find videos on it

i remember it regularly hanging out on this one rock but i cant find it anywhere

[halcyon thicket]

East of vertonn

[regal shadow]

They're somewhat common to encounter in 2 star tales too, depending on location, ofc

[versed spoke]

Anyone know if Mora's Hand's been fixed yet?

[distant jungle]

It has not, but we might see pact reworks in P12, or so has been said.

[ashen oracle]

Last played just before they added sidearms

Anything I should immediately chase/is easy to get?

[plucky junco]

i don't think there's any rush to get things, unless you're worried about missing the rewards from the events

if you want to, you can smash scarecrows and pumpkins to get the three masks, and earn the talisman and armour set from the festival of the circade
but apart from that, i think it's fine to just earn the other stuff at your own pace

[versed spoke]

Lil' Zook's Mask actually has pretty good stability, so if you're prone to getting knocked over try equipping it after you craft it. I noticed a significant improvement

[fierce scaffold]

ok maybe its a random spawn cus i dont see him there

where im at rn

[ashen oracle]

Yeah mostly concerned about timed stuff

I know DE is good with fomo but I've also been gone for some time and not all caught up

Did see the mod system but basically nothing else

[plucky junco]

then yeah, it's mostly the halloween thing and the festival of the circade if you haven't already done them

[left perch]

Is there like, a reason I should be going into dungeons if I don't have a faction tale for it? Are there any good benefits from it, or just regular loot like crates and weapon racks?

[fierce scaffold]

nvm found it

right on this curved rock

[plucky junco]

loot would be the main reason usually... or just for fun 🥹

sometimes xp

[fierce scaffold]

also different types of dungeons drop a material that only that type of dungeon drops

glades drop their own, as well as undercities and neth'uns

[ashen oracle]

Hope they made undercity a bit less asinine to navigate

I die a little inside every time they plop down a big room or one of those rotating rope based tiles

[left perch]

Is the loot like, better than outside? Cause if not, I genuinely see very little reason for their existenc athe moment

Fun is not a factor one considers when they need 50 scrap iron and patch leather

[plucky junco]

it depends on the specific loot, i think, but i haven't run experiments or anything
if you want to get something like orengall's fang, you'll have to go through glades a few times

[warm echo]

I seem to be not understanding but how do you get the Orengall armor set. I ran the Dermak undercity but its never giving me a tale to do

[plucky junco]

i don't think you can get it from there any more, i think it's only sold by alca's children now

[warm echo]

Oh ok thank you

[fierce scaffold]

you also get parts from faction tales

thats where i got all of my parts. gotta be from alca's

[shrewd gazelle]

ending the night with a huge amount of stuff crafting, including the cicade talisman. all is good

oh also, outta curiosity what pacts dyall usually see run the most? asking cuz i tend to get a lil self conscious if i see a bunch of people running the same stuff as me

[halcyon thicket]

Always spawns there btw

Just relog

[leaden sand]

Does anyone have a map of all the world boss locations?

[eternal ivy]

Gotchu brah

[leaden sand]

Thanks

[normal portal]

Is the 7th sidearm in the compendium wrong? Wiki says there's only 6 and it looks identical to nettles silhouette.

[plucky junco]

that's just a bug, i think

[eternal ivy]

Most of the wiki ive seen isnt updated to the new stuff

[ember plume]

godbless envoy

[autumn musk]

tenet envoy reference ?

[eternal ivy]

Real one who made the boss location map is ExpertDrah
So kudos to him

[severe merlin]

jai fait une demande pour recevoir un code il y a 2 mois et toujours rien reçu es normal

[plucky junco]

please use english in this server
getting an invite isn't guaranteed from the weekly batches, but if a twitch drop gets announced, you can earn one by watching a stream
and starting on november 25, you can get access through a founders pack if you're interested

[vivid lotus]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

this wiki is updated and worked on daily, it’s an incredibly reliable source of info

[ember plume]

fellas what’s the best short blade sidearm?

[ancient fox]

Id say it depends on if you are running courage/spirit/grace

[ember plume]

mainly courage

also is it recommended using juniper with a courage orengall build

[ancient fox]

Yeah idk the names but just use what ever matches

[fierce scaffold]

cant you reforge weapons to scale off of something else?

[vivid lotus]

using blessed joineries, yes.

[ember plume]

you need the blessed stuff for that i think

[vagrant eagle]

That's a funny way to spell Flyblades

[ancient fox]

Yeah but none of tge shortblades are unique enough tbh

[ember plume]

i kinda look how grinn looks

and it scales on courage too

[ancient fox]

If juniper is courage then yeah if you like the playstyle

[ancient fox]

That's all that matters then

[ember plume]

i’m gonna keep trying my luck at a courage blessed joinery thing

does the stag not have a fixed location?

[vagrant eagle]

Juniper is Grace, I think Blitzel is Courage?

I'm not sure if there's a Spirit bow?

[ancient fox]

Not that I know I think its just the bounties

[vagrant eagle]

3 Star tales, it should need to be, as the final boss.

[severe merlin]

ok thanks

[ember plume]

I dislike doing those because more often than not the boss ends up being nimrod and I find crafting cq to be a massive pain in the behind

[regal shadow]

You don't need cloudquell to kill him, just need a decently leveled pact or a weapon

[cursive veldt]

"Fusion Cloudquell is just a cheap tactic to make weak gems envoys stronger!"

[paper jetty]

How do i kill thos guys that keep respawning????

[velvet stream]

on keyboard hold Q to see their spirit and left click mouse to consume it

[paper jetty]

I got like 6 of them, i need to do that for each?

[ancient fox]

Yeah

[paper jetty]

When they die or when they are alive?

[velvet stream]

when they die

[paper jetty]

Ive been kiling them for 10min god damnit

[ancient fox]

You have to knock them down and take their soul

[velvet stream]

it's a frequent question tbh so you're not alone

[paper jetty]

Ty!

[ripe token]

i dont understand how to use the sidearm aka the dagger that i crafted

[half talon]

Once you equip it you can change to it using R

[little parrot]

In the bear quest, what do you have to do on the "save the seed from mendicant clutches" part?

It just points me to an area with no indication on what to look for and keeps spawning mockeries.

[ripe token]

what is the point of it?

it doesnt look like i can level it up

[ancient fox]

Its probably something you have to pick up like the Intel scrolls in bounties

[ancient fox]

You can it adds to the short blade tree

Its just a smaller blade to use if you throw weapons or use bow and need a melee

[strange gazelle]

you should reach an area where you'll find a mini boss, The Wazzard of wastes.

[ember plume]

my weapon and pact are both maxed just don’t know how i’m supposed to solo him with orengall

[ripe token]

i actually like the slicing animation

[ancient fox]

Yeah I tend to need cloudquell

My main build is orengall odiac so

[ember plume]

i’m using orengall vecht atm hopefully waiting for a blessed joinery to drop so I can switch juniper to courage

[little parrot]

Probably a bug then. The quest marker is still showing the same area where I killed the Mendicant Knights.

[little parrot]

I can't play with any pact except Ode Tempest because my game runs at 7 fps and I can't even properly react to the combat 💀

[strange gazelle]

yeah, tha's the area. Look around, there's should be a place with the boss

[little parrot]

Isn't the boss supposed to be in the pit like area below from what I remember of the demo?

The marker is pointing me to the grassy area up hill.

[strange gazelle]

i did it again a couple days ago with a friend, we were killing mendicant knights and then reached the Wazzards' "arena"

you had the OBJ that said "defeat mendicant knights" and then "save the seed from mendicant clutches" right?

[ashen oracle]

Do any of the new swords added have any unique attack animations

besides the machetes

[merry compass]

I got Orengall's pact the other day and now I have it at level 30. It is so fun

[smoky crater]

Dewelion does have a unique heavy attack but outside of the cleavers i don't think there's any other ones that have full new animation sets no

[ashen oracle]

Damn

Hopefully we get decent enough modding or stances in the future so there aren't a lot of weird hitches with their attack animation

Polearms too even if their damage kinda justifies it

And a non-reverse grip short blade

[merry compass]

This may sound like a bit of a skill issue on my part, but souls games typically give the player a very narrow window of iframes if they take damage and get animation locked. But soulframe doesn't appear to have that? Theres been a few times I've been stun locked in a string of attacks and cannot get out of it 😂

[ashen oracle]

Could just be funky hitboxes like the big knight's charge

[smoky crater]

i mean soulframes' note exactly meant to be a usual "Soulslike" game but the stunlocks are definitely something yeah

[ashen oracle]

Most the time it's better to dodge through than into

[merry compass]

Yeah as with most souls like games (excluding sekiro for obvious reasons and lies of p where parrying is fun as hell) I do try to dodge into/through attacks, it's just when I get caught offguard

[ashen oracle]

There's definitely a ping element on top of the iframe being very small

So I end up dodging away and using faster weapons

Sword and shield has been really great for that tbh, fast attacks with good reach and stagger

[merry compass]

I haven't found a sword and shield yet. I'm currently using the Vetch and the flyblades with Orengall's pact. Very fun so far

[smoky crater]

sword & shields are fun yeah

[ashen oracle]

Yeah the longsword moveset slows down a lot on the second swing

[merry compass]

Even more fun when Orengall appears out of nowhere and massacres someone for me 😂

[ashen oracle]

It's something I want them to touch on because it feels a lot like an awkward pause for cinematic purposes

[rough jungle]

Where are good leveling area? Because all these 3 star faction boss all Grey for me

[ashen oracle]

Spam glades dungeon and hopefully come across an infinite spawn room

The glades tile is very easy to memorise so just comb through it

[merry compass]

I do hope they somehow make the combat feel more fluid. I can't put my finger on it but it feels a tiny bit clunky at the moment

[ashen oracle]

Yeah it's the animation

Steve is very into the whole slow and methodical gameplay

[smoky crater]

combat animations themselves haven't honestly gotten a lot of work put into them since the beginning of preludes other than some minor tweaks or making sure the finishers actually line up and don't slide around etc.

[merry compass]

It's very fun, I'm enjoying it a lot. It just feels so close to being as good as it could be

The combat that is

[ashen oracle]

It'll likely come later, right now they're focused on expanding playability & map size and also stuff that feel more tangible like weapons

[merry compass]

I'm not expecting Sekiro levels of pace with constant back and forth attack/parrying, just more like Elden Ring/Dark Souls

[ashen oracle]

Yeah it'll likely feel somewhat close once we get more powerful mods/runes

[little parrot]

Yes

But the location of the quest area did not change after I killed the knights.

[ancient fox]

I think you have to pick up something

[merry compass]

But yeah the combat is really good as it is tbh. I was worried it would be Duviri but bigger, and I'm glad I'm wrong

[ancient fox]

Like how you pick up keys

[strange gazelle]

because it's the "same" just keep going down the road. At one point a dialogue will start and you'll reach the boss

[whole owl]

I believe it was like it at the start, but it's been improving at very good pace

[little parrot]

I'm actually hoping Warframe team comes back and ports the combat improvements over to Duviri, but probably not happening.

[little parrot]

Ah, okay. Thanks. Probably not going to be able to beat the Wazzard though, since he disables pact abilities.

[merry compass]

It felt like it back when I tried it this time last year. I got burnt out pretty fast

[whole owl]

He... Does? That's new :o

[ancient fox]

Maybe the quest one

[merry compass]

Coming back this week though, it feels leaps and bounds better imo

[ancient fox]

He seems like a weak boss

[strange gazelle]

yeah, in story mode he disables them...but you can get your revenge every 3 hours later 😂

[whole owl]

Ooooooh, the story one, yeah

[turbid summit]

is the endless mode only with those weird soul enemies? I hate those guys

[smoky crater]

yes

[whole owl]

For now, yeah

[little parrot]

Yeah, it's almost as if they're... mocking me.

[ember plume]

lmao yeah I feel you dude, literally running mine at 15 fps

[little parrot]

I want a game to make respawning bosses canon someday so we can have bosses going "really, again?" when I show up to beat them up for the 250th time.

[little parrot]

I wish I got 15, my max so far is 10

And my minimum is 3 😭

[ember plume]

now is that everything at low setting?

[little parrot]

As low as it all goes plus playing two resolutions below my actual screen size.

[ember plume]

oh wow that sucks

hopefully we both get a better device soon

playing the game without dynamic lighting on is such a pain

literally cannot see anything in the dungeons

[little parrot]

Indeed, I'll get leverage to ask for one if I get accepted to a good uni for my master's hopefully 😔

[little parrot]

I played Warframe 1999 on launch without dynamic lighting. Hollvania was literally all black.

[ember plume]

everything is hell without dynamic lighting

other settings be damned just let me see at least

[ripe token]

how are you meant to deal with this?

they just keep respawning

ive killed like 30 of them so far

[smoky crater]

see those blue glowing barrels on the ground next to the cannon? shoot/hit those

[ripe token]

oh ok ty

and then what

nvm

pressing f on this does nothing. why

[smoky crater]

ignore that part. did you hit all the barrels around it?

[ripe token]

yessir

[smoky crater]

or did it already blow up

[ripe token]

it wont let me go back to nightfold cause a battle is "still happening" LMFAO

[smoky crater]

the cannon i mean

[ripe token]

i mean... i think so?

when i hit it with my sword, it shows damage animation

[smoky crater]

were you by chance in the middle of a fable?

[ripe token]

well

it was a quest area for doggo

there is 2 of them thats why. its glitched

LMFAO

[smoky crater]

ooook. and i think the game just decided to randomly spawn a 2nd bisulcam on top of it.
i'd say relogging will probably fix it

[ripe token]

thats funny.

im glad to be here early on to see funny glitches like this

what is the pressing f on it about though?

im curious about that

[dusky tangle]

If you have a thunder stone, you can immediately blow it up. You only would have one if a previous part of your faction tale required you to find one

[ripe token]

my screen is already crafted apparently

[ripe token]

good to know lol

[dusky iris]

does oryn umbr drop from sparrow tales north of the map or the gold hand ode chests? i've been farming both for 3 days and i'm starting to wonder if it even exists

is there some prerequisite i need to fulfill before getting it or what

[lament hearth]

What do I do with all the abducted animals? They fill my inventory pretty much by now 🙂

[tawny dome]

you can release them for more "dust" or whatever the upgrading currency is called

[strange gazelle]

it too tought it dropped from north/north east sparrow tales but my friend just started crafting it, got the fragments from ST3 in "regular" zones

he's in Alca's Children tough, i was in kith of kings

[lament hearth]

Would you mind to tell where and how?

[ancient fox]

Like in the screen where you equip them

There's a release button

[strange gazelle]

You need to go in the "Magicks" section of your weapons (every weapons has a set of totems) by clicking with the right mouse button, then you'll see totem slots for the weapon.
You click on a slot and it opens up your totem's inventory. From there you can release the ones you don't need

[dusky iris]

what's ST3 again?

just the 3 star tales?

[strange gazelle]

yup

[dusky iris]

gotcha

it's not exclusive to alca's yeah?

i assume anyway

[strange gazelle]

honestly i don't know, but i did loooots of tales for Kith of kings without dropping it

he's playing from like 4 days and got it

[dusky iris]

damn

[strange gazelle]

so i assume it is at least not in the kith of kings droptable

[ionic widget]

For Oryn?

[strange gazelle]

yeah

[ionic widget]

Just drops from enemies. Not tales.

[strange gazelle]

yes, i read the wiki but i assure you that or i'm the unluckiest player on earth or something is off because my friend has literally played 4 days doing only sparrow tales and got it
meanwhile i'm playing since the start of P11 and never seen a fragment 🥲

[ionic widget]

The drops are pretty hard to come across.

[strange gazelle]

i switched to Alca's yesterday night, so i'll do some test starting this evening when i get home and see if I drop something while leveling up the faction

[ionic widget]

There are only a few weapons that are locked behind tales.

[dusky iris]

i've seen conflicting info on this one. what makes this specific source more reliable than ones that claim tales to be the drop source?

[lament hearth]

Okay how do I kill the stag for the faction quest? It has some kind of grey HP bar. What am I overlooking?

[ionic widget]

You would be rewarded an Oryn-Umbr frag for completing a tale if that was the case, and I don't think that any factions drop them.

[ionic widget]

Also that is avakot.org, a community wiki that is constantly updating drop sources.

[dusky iris]

its armor rating is allowing it to resist your attacks enough to trigger the grey health bar that indicates you're doing little to no damage. buffs like call of the ancients and felllust or heavy attacks or effects that lower enemy armor can allow you to circumvent it and deal damage again

[dusky iris]

right got it

is there any specific method to use for farming those enemy types or is it just running around dungeon diving for enemies to kill

[tender onyx]

can you be a sorcerrer in this game or some kind of range?

[red creek]

How to play the game

[tender onyx]

you need a code 🙁

[red creek]

A code?

[tender onyx]

yeaah gift code apparently they give it out in chat some ttimes

looking for one aswell xD

[red creek]

Bruh 🙏 🥀

[regal zinc]

every wednesday they give access to 2000 people as i realised there are twitch drops

[tender onyx]

yeaah the game looks so fun too

[regal zinc]

game is insanely fun

[civic nebula]

Definitely know that feeling my friend just got one and was expla6

[magic bone]

i dont get a email

can some one help

[red creek]

@tender onyx where do they give code : #gameplay-discussion , #looking-for-group or another one?

[tender onyx]

wow okey where do i find theese wednesday fgifts

[regal zinc]

twitch

[tender onyx]

i saw in 1 chat a dude gave out in evvnnoy gathering

[tender onyx]

ohh okey whyats the name of the twitch?

[regal zinc]

that can happen but enticed not to ask for keys

[tender onyx]

yeaah i did the mistake asking. xD but there was a streamer that told me too haha

[rigid parrot]

I got mine as a twitch drop for 30 minute of watching

[tender onyx]

whaat for real? when?

[regal zinc]

i forgott that i registered in may and got access xD

that was an option as well

[regal shadow]

last weekend there was a category wide campaign on twitch, anyone who streamed soulframe could enable drops and the drop was a key, that was the most recent

[tender onyx]

idamn hahah

[tender onyx]

omg sad i missed that hahah

[regal zinc]

do you need to be like full on twitch streamer or anyone can do it bcs i want to enable drops for more people

[tender onyx]

gonna hav e to keep a eye up

[regal shadow]

anyone who streamed, but that was only for that weekend, it's over now ofc

[tender onyx]

whats ur twitch name?

[lament hearth]

Where can I equip the animal I abducted?

[smoky crater]

Well you didnt abduct it for one but you can equip the totem you got from interacting with it by right clicking on a weapon in your arsenal as long as it was a totem for that weapon type

[lament hearth]

ah there rightclicking it... oh my. That needs a tutorial for sure ^^. What is the currency for if you set them free?

ah I see... someitems I'm blind

[mossy blaze]

Right- before I go insane looking for it, how do I begin the Wolf Quest?

[dusky tangle]

Find a sinecure camp with a red glowing balloon

[mossy blaze]

Ah Ty.

[last forge]

I was reading the P11 release notes, and apparently I'd have at least 16 weapon slots instead of 6 if I'd started playing a month earlier :<

I crafted a bunch of weapons and can't claim any of them without selling existing ones or buying more slots

technically I've had access to the game since august of last year, but that doesn't count unfortunately

[umbral nymph]

Can someone help a noob out? I'm trying to unlock the Silent Rose Faction to start the standing grind. I managed to get into the enclave - so Location step is secured. Wiki says I should talk with Lady Deora but she is not in here and I don t know what i need to do to have her in here. Also the game keeps telling me that I have an unopened message in my inbox/inventory and I have no idea how to even read messages from my inbox LMAO . Please help 🥺 ❤️

[halcyon thicket]

Did you finish a fable called Torment Stag

[umbral nymph]

yup 🙂‍↕️

[ancient narwhal]

man they need to do something about duplicates

10 arbearer legs and no marrow bane

[thorn cipher]

i need help opening a window

[compact hull]

quick question: i haven't played for a few updates, i know they decoupled the "ultimate" abilities from each pact, but how do we earn/equip them? or is that still in the works?

[normal sail]

they're bringing them back as runes you can slot into certain grip types (post p12)

slowly over time

and some'll just be standalone weapons

[compact hull]

ok, that's what i suspected

[ripe token]

how do i know if i completed a "dungeon" already or not

cause i feel like i keep going into the same one

[edgy sigil]

dungeons are procedurally generated, it's a different tileset everytime you enter

[ripe token]

ah

[edgy sigil]

that's what the airlock is for it's loading the tiles

[ripe token]

fair

[normal sail]

i meam the airlock makes sense you are in a different plane of reality where you phase though seemingly nothing

[versed spoke]

i wonder if that Ode shoulder weapon could be through a rune? what weapon would that be part of, i wonder?

[versed spoke]

Envoy! your aura is smelling rather cut in half today

[indigo nexus]

where do I find the files for soulframe to fully delete the game?

Does anyone know?

[versed spoke]

Why do you want to delete the game? If you really wanted to, you'd probably have to find the Soulframe launcher and delete that.

just go into File explorer and type in Soulframe

[indigo nexus]

I need space on the laptop, The launcher doesn't have an uninstall button from what I saw and from the app section it's 701 mb but I know it downloaded like 10gb

[versed spoke]

just delete it

[brazen sparrow]

if you r-click on the installer you should be able to select uninstall.

[indigo nexus]

It worked. Thank you!

Sorry for the bother also

[haughty field]

Can someone explain me why i have more base courage than others virtue

and how can i upgrade others virtue

[edgy sigil]

did you make courage based responses on the fables

[haughty field]

probably

[edgy sigil]

[haughty field]

Well

So i can't change thoses point ?

[edgy sigil]

i haven't tried it but try replaying the fable

[supple marsh]

How is everyone enjoying the game so far? I just started, looks awesome graphically

[haughty field]

Was thinking about it but its kind of annoying hum

Not going to redo the whole campaign each time i want to change playstyle bruh

[edgy sigil]

it's a +1 bonus at most if you're that much into minmaxing

[haughty field]

8 point in total

[ionic widget]

Your pacts also affect virtue.

[haughty field]

might be that

[ancient narwhal]

do u guys just dump courage on tethren

[proven smelt]

I just listen to whatever @queen portal tells me 2 do 😄

[queen portal]

wa

[queen portal]

Buy me a beer

[proven smelt]

hah! your not 21 yet! 😄

[still sable]

Now this is all there is

[austere jolt]

hi all, character customisation is not there yet right?could not find info

[sly escarp]

Is being expanded on the 25th

[austere jolt]

25th of November ?

[knotty imp]

you can transmog ( bestitch ) armor and recolor it, though!

[oak glacier]

hi

[sly escarp]

Yep!

[austere jolt]

ofcourse but thats not reacl character customisation,more liek gear customisation 🙂

[sly escarp]

They showed off some stuff on the last Devstream, iirc it's coming in p12

Might be wrong on that though, might be a sneak peek for a future change.

[austere jolt]

aah thanks, going to check teh last stream , I thought I already saw it but apparently not lol

[sly escarp]

There was a LOT in that devstream

[knotty imp]

i`m curious about those new runes they mentioned

seemed like each world boss would get its own unique one

[random fable]

been carrying this for like 5 minutes, what do I do with it?

[brittle nacelle]

use sparrow it should guide you

you can use the guide while carrying animation won't work but the sparrow will spawn

[halcyon thicket]

follow the sparrow symbol in the compass up top

[random fable]

got it thanks

[mellow sleet]

Is it allowed to like drop my tik tok user if I plan on uploading soulframe content

[smoky crater]

self promo is not allowed here no

[mellow sleet]

Fair nuff

[proven smelt]

literally says that in the rules >><<

[uncut maple]

Damn we're getting another Prelude so soon? Sweeeeeet

[proven smelt]

so soon?

P11 was October 10th 2025

ya I guess that's relatively soon

[brazen sparrow]

p10 took particularly long, don't forget 😄

[proven smelt]

im not complaining

[half talon]

Tuesday

[uncut maple]

Hell yeah is there a tldr of what's in it?

[halcyon thicket]

#soulframe-news

[native wind]

does medicant king just take time to respawn before you can summon again?

[vagrant kayak]

Yes, all sub-bosses are on a 3 hour cooldown after death, but you can join fellow Envoys who have theirs up to do boss shares

[dusty hatch]

I can't get over how beautiful the game and how godawful the combat is. This is the worst iteration of combat in all versions I played so far.

[mellow sleet]

I'm going to let you take a guess as to why I don't know that.

[smoky crater]

hate the combat? make a feedback post about it or just don't talk about it

[dusty hatch]

that forbidden eh?

[smoky crater]

no but it doesn't exactly help just randomly mentioning it unlike making a feedback post would

more like... unnecessary doomering or somethin

[normal sail]

pre-alpha and most weapons are currently just using placeholder animation sets from Warframe.

i think in the devstream Geoff did mention that new weapon animations were in the works

[smoky crater]

game's in pre-alpha anyway

pretty sure none of the animation sets for weapons are from warframe

[proven smelt]

I have no idea there's a 10 minute time out before you can even type anything everyone takes those 10 minutes to read the rules right?

[dusty hatch]

I dont mind the animations, it loosk neat as is. I mind clunky responsiveness and getting stunlocked to death constantly with maxed armor

[keen olive]

Hi, how can i get a invite code? :/

[dusty hatch]

and hitscan archers from 5 directions

[smoky crater]

archers aren't hitscan, they just have the ability to aim and predict where you're gonna be while moving in a certain direction

[mellow sleet]

Must've missed that I accepted the terms and started asking abt the game

[smoky crater]

and as for getting stunlocked... dodges and blocks are a thing i hope you knew that tho. can't just rush in a large enemy group and hope to survive with just spamming light attack

[autumn hull]

i like the combat, depite not being super good at it...

[smoky crater]

and you can animation cancel aswell.

in like... 90% of cases

[normal sail]

currently the only way to get access is a lottery system every Wednesday to 2000 people who signed up on the Soulframe site.

there is also the monthly devstreams that drop codes, but none are scheduled atm.

thirdly, there is the founders packs launching next Tuesday that will give you access to preludes alongside codes to share with friends

[dusty hatch]

its way tougher and too tough to be fun than earlier iterations.

[smoky crater]

P10 and P11 did ramp up the difficulty a bit yes. it's not meant to be a Warframe style 'mass murder in 2 seconds with a nuke as a cherry on top' game

[dusty hatch]

Between THAT and what the game currently is, there is a large gap. i think it should be easier, all i'm saying. i get you like the combat. i don't. is what it is

[smoky crater]

the current difficulty levels are more along the lines of what the devs are wanting so

considering they're even adding a "hard mode" of sorts with P12

[autumn hull]

if your pact and weapon are leveled all the way, most fights shouldnt be too hard... i have some issues with lvl 30 mobs but i'm really nit running any kind of optimized build

[smoky crater]

runes do make the gameplay quite a bit easier aswell tbf

[knotty moon]

Might be worth figuring out what exactly you don't like about combat, how in your opinion it could be improved, and making a post in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345.
Preludes testing is exactly for this kind of stuff.

[dusty hatch]

im aware. im MR15. it's not that i don't know how to equipped maxed ode and steamroll all the content, it's that normal game play of leveling stuff up forces you into slow, tedious, unreponsive combat with infuriating stunlock situations constantly. if you all like that, alright. i bear with it until my packs are maxed and i can get back to steamrolling with the imbalanced stuff.

[lament hearth]

BTW if you join one faction you can't join another or it there some issue in MP? After I freed the three bosses there are no more quests right?

[autumn hull]

u can make an item to switch factions

[knotty moon]

You need to make that faction's Talisman, to make that you need Sacred Shimmer from your faction, which is sold at rank 3.
Once you have the appropriate Talisman crafted you can join the new faction, this has a week long cooldown,

[low oar]

I have a suggestion for DE regarding the sparrow revive! I think it would be neat and more interesting if the sparrow accelerated to say 30-50% of its speed when player fallows the line exactly - as if that green stripe was boosting its speed

Would to for micro minigame

It would have to be speed that rivals most of shortcuts when players just beeline

[smoky crater]

you can already speed up the sparrows movement tho by holding space/RT

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[smoky crater]

and yeah that message is just gonna get buried here, if you want it to be noticed make a feedback post

[low oar]

Sonofa Biskit ! how the hell was I suppose to know? also why not shift (sprint button) ?

[low oar]

Reasonable

[knotty moon]

That is something I am asking myself for a while now.

[low oar]

xD

mysterious game, full of mysteries xD

[knotty moon]

I think it does mention it in a prompt if you don't launch yourself off the shrine.

[low oar]

I have rise here or take off

dont remember anything about take off but be fast when holding this

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[smoky crater]

well it is the same button as the one you use to starting to fly with bird

[knotty moon]

Maybe it is just my habit of just mashing all the buttons to see if they do something.

[halcyon thicket]

Looking for a specific room in a dungeon sure isnt easy

[brazen sparrow]

run faster Shatter! 😂

[halcyon thicket]

Yh it's not rly worth it anyway

It's just really making me wonder why that specific room

[spare badge]

Do we know what the green bubble around enemies that weren't killed by a bow rune arrow after it breaks on them does?

[halcyon thicket]

It's void bubble from wf

[still ore]

:(

Wait my prld tag

[distant jungle]

It's a magnet effect that'll attract other arrows you fire.

I didn't know it was a thing for the longest time cus everything died in one hit with my rune active.

[smoky crater]

huh

[halcyon thicket]

It's not just an asset from Warframe?

[distant jungle]

I don't play WF enough to say whether or not the bubble is taken from there, I stopped years ago.

But I know its active effect is to attract other arrows you fire.

[sly escarp]

Did you leave the Preludes server?

[neon meadow]

where can i find bisculum?

[sly escarp]

Sounds like it has the status proc of a Void status too

[sly escarp]

Walk around and when you get bowled over by a cannonball from 90 feet away walk in that direction.

In all seriousness usually near Ode towns and cities

[neon meadow]

any consistent location? i found maby 10 of them in total in 6 months span lmao

[smoky crater]

west coast north of Salzbrim should have fairly consistent spawns

[half talon]

Northern/Northwestern area just above Salzbrim has been consistent for at least one

[neon meadow]

idk if i have salzbrim location unveiled

[half talon]

Which Enclave did you choose? I can at least direct you from there.

Actually hang on I have visual

[smoky crater]

thas a oooold picture i see

[half talon]

It was...I realized that when I posted it

I had it handy for...reasons....

[neon meadow]

aight, i want to destory bisculums to get tuvalkane armor

[brazen sparrow]

old habits die hard

[smoky crater]

fax

[neon meadow]

also

where can i get synoid's bell jar and orengall's fang? they are charms

[tawny shuttle]

where weepin dris at

[brazen sparrow]

synod's jar is all over - chests on the surface. Orengall's fang is in chests in glades tiles. All rare chests

[vagrant kayak]

Synod's Bell Jar drops from rare Ode chests, which are the ones with big golden hands on them

Orengall's Fang is in rare chests in Glades as Fried said

[halcyon thicket]

It's a carbon copy of of void bubble on enemies

[vagrant kayak]

Should be around in the forests and fields, although only at night I believe based on the description

[neon meadow]

my account is still bugged, i cant pick up the honey from trees, i get locked sound effect and hands picture

[sly escarp]

Did you complete Brewer of Hues recently?

[neon meadow]

sap tap is removed from my inventory

[halcyon thicket]

@whole owl does the wiki show possible tiles/rooms for different dungeons entrances

[vagrant kayak]

A relog and chatting to Verminia doesn't fix it?

[neon meadow]

yes like 5 months ago, now its completely gone

[sly escarp]

Sounds like support ticket time!

[round pollen]

Hey there, i played soulframe for a good 5 hrs at the end of april, but felt left without any direction to do anything or story to follow after just a few npc interactions, did the game develop on far from there, or should i just stick out and wait more if im looking for a more streamlined experience?

[neon meadow]

ill send a picture

[whole owl]

It's on the plans, but we're a bit busy with a few ongoing projects!

[vagrant kayak]

Is Verminia in your Nightfold or no?

[sly escarp]

It's still in pre alpha

[halcyon thicket]

I see, thanks for answering

[sly escarp]

Still in a very rough and constantly changing state.

But there is more story content added

[vagrant kayak]

There is a big new quest that has been added since then, though still very much in pre-alpha. Next week's update should have some more character and story stuff

[neon meadow]

i get this symbol on all trees , i cant pick them up

[round pollen]

well im aware of that, im not expecting it to be bugless im mainly just asking if there is like a clear "do this" in the game now or atleast a "you might wanna do this"

[sly escarp]

Sounds like it's time to file a support ticket!

[smoky blade]

One question i have is concerning factions what do u gain from changing factions?

[vagrant kayak]

And Verminia is in your Nightfold?

[halcyon thicket]

New update will have better new player experience, wait till November 25th

[sly escarp]

Not especially, the game does streamline you through some quests but a number of quests still require you to explore and discover them!

[round pollen]

Thanks, love!

[neon meadow]

yes, i also have every quest complete

[sly escarp]

Different shop with different loot

[vagrant kayak]

Each Faction has its own store with some unique things like armor, weapons and Pacts as well as a color pack

[smoky blade]

Thanks guys

[smoky crater]

yeah apparently happened after helping someone with the fable and now it just doesn't work

[smoky blade]

So if m rank 5 in alcas itd be better to switch it right?

[vagrant kayak]

Can you go chat with her? She should trigger the quest, if she doesn't then definitely make a ticket with Support

[sly escarp]

If you get everything you want from the shop, yes

[smoky crater]

they've done the fable already iirc

[smoky blade]

Thanks brother

[vagrant kayak]

Yes, I'd advise getting 2 Sacred Shimmers before swapping so you can make both of the other Talismans to join the other Factions

[sly escarp]

It's sister and you're very welcome!

[neon meadow]

i made a ticket yesterday, game functions fine, i can play everything but cant collect sappheline

sap tap is removed from my inventory

[smoky blade]

Sorry my bad

[sly escarp]

All good!

[smoky blade]

Thanks a lot

[vagrant kayak]

At least the sap doesn't actually do anything right now so shouldn't be a problem

[neon meadow]

i heard i need to have it in order to collect the sappheline, maby thats ont true but still

[vagrant kayak]

Sappheline is a different resource entirely, a gem you get from rare chests

The sap tap is used to gather Wevetroot sap

[half talon]

Sap will be used next week for the Cogah potion, though, iirc

[brazen sparrow]

yep. plus some shrooms you need from the agari..

(i just rewatched this bit like 3 minutes ago)

[waxen lagoon]

Hello, I just found the fragments for lil zood mask. But i need to get "rotted frond" Where can i find it? Sorry if wrong chat i am new here 🙂

[neon meadow]

the honey from trees or what ever that thing is, i cant pick it up

[vagrant kayak]

Yeah that's the wevetroot sap

[half talon]

Take out some of the corrupted avocados

[waxen lagoon]

Where can i find them?

[echo token]

Corrupted Sproutfolk can be found in the Neath'uns.

[half talon]

Northern regions or in any of the Neathun's locations

dang too slow lol

[halcyon thicket]

Tsk tsk

[waxen lagoon]

Ok lol, i dont know what the neaht'uns are. (also dont want spoiler for it) I guess i will have to explore some 🙂 ty people

[echo token]

Still quick on the draw, pardner.

[cinder shore]

New player here, im trying to figure out how to farm Gathannan. Im farming the Glades, is that right, or am i missing something?

[echo token]

You'll get access to them as part of the Waste Bear fable.

[echo token]

Rare chests in the Glades should do it.

[cinder shore]

Yea, thats what I saw, ill keep running, im 50+ runs deep on it, and have not seen a single fragment

[echo token]

Well. It's going to take a while, if things haven't changed. Best of luck, Envoy.

[half talon]

I believe this changed locations and is now a reward for T2-3 faction tales

[keen sable]

you just need to do t2 or 3s it's the reward for gath

[knotty moon]

Wasn't it moved to FT?

[waxen lagoon]

hmm, i did that quest. Is Neath'unhs where those tree guys that come out of nowhere are?

[cinder shore]

thank you all

[echo token]

Apparently? Let me just check https://wiki.avakot.org/.

Huh. T2/T3 Alca's Children Faction Tales are the source now per https://wiki.avakot.org/Gathannan. I have learned a thing!

[native wind]

Minus parry stability cost on reforging is a good thing right? like it reduces how much stability you lose when parrying?

[smoky crater]

yep

[distant jungle]

Yes, it is making the cost lower.

This is a good thing.

[fierce scaffold]

i wanna know
has anyone managed to get the steam game recording thing to work with this game?

[fair pier]

omg I just realized not every joinery requires a fully leveled up weapon

[crystal cliff]

only blessed

which are used to change virtue attunement

[fair pier]

yeah I just noticed that, I think I must have seen that first, and thought they were all like that so I've been leveling weapons without using them

[solemn sequoia]

who thought adding a ranged attack on nimrod was a good idea 😭

[edgy sigil]

the pain

[latent olive]

It was probably one of the devs that thought that

[half talon]

I must admit I'm pretty stoked for Motifs being added in, and I'm curious to see how that's gonna play out

[worn hawk]

Also if you haven't done it yet if you attune a weapon it resets to level 1

[fair pier]

yeah I figured that, I thought these were all just weird formas

[ripe token]

Here is a dumb question, how do i find blueprints?

I assume its like warframe where it drops from enemy or quest completion but im not sure

[hidden gale]

So the bow skill tree has a parry, how do you parry with a bow?

[half talon]

Fragments can be found from killing enemies, completing faction tales or purchase from the faction shops.

[worn hawk]

Same as other weapons on PC right mouse click

[half talon]

Carefully

[hidden gale]

So...the aim button?

[fair pier]

it sucks, but it's possible, just aim exactly when the attack would hit

the parry timming is horrible

[hidden gale]

Oh...that's...that's rough buddy.

[ripe token]

What are faction shops and how do i find them?

[half talon]

You can only access the shop of the faction you're currently in (Silent Rose Enclave, Children of Alca or Kith of Kings) but you talk to the rep for it and click on "offerings"

[ripe token]

Where is the rep for it? 😅

im special, how open secret door

[vagrant kayak]

There's a little poem with a hint nearby
When twin suns sleep, so: ||You'll want to come back at night||

[fair pier]

gotta come back at night and fight a dead guy

[ripe token]

yeah i assumed that but wasnt sure. ty.

[static zinc]

You get rep from doing faction tales but they’ll only show up once you join a faction

[ripe token]

Will there be "mounts" added in the future?

[static zinc]

Yes ||wolf pup grows up||

[ripe token]

MAJOR W

[static zinc]

But not implemented yet

[ripe token]

I knew they'd be useful for something.

[edgy sigil]

yeah. cuddles

[static zinc]

They being our snuggle companion is very important right now!

[static zinc]

You get it

[tawdry arrow]

just unlocked orengall's pact and equipped it for the first time, why do a bunch of weapons show a red downward arrow now?

[static zinc]

They no longer are scaled well with attributes. Check your attributes pacts have and effect on them

[ripe token]

its night out and its still not opening

am i stupid or something

???

[half talon]

What are you waiting for?

[ripe token]

its not opening

[half talon]

What’s not opening?

[ripe token]

the door?

[half talon]

What door?

[ripe token]

are we deadass rn

[grave acorn]

how to open a locked animal cage?

[ripe token]

F

[grave acorn]

nono, it has a bomb icon

[ripe token]

the door in question

[half talon]

Ah sadly you don’t.

[ripe token]

[humble imp]

I think that there is supposed to be a spirit guarding the door

[grave acorn]

🙁

[ripe token]

you do. there is a key near it

[ripe token]

well its night out and no spirit is here

[half talon]

Ah see context matters. You fight the spectre that apprars.

[ripe token]

where the specter? it not here

[brittle nacelle]

then it's likely not your factoin

[half talon]

You may need to leave the area and return. Head south a bit then run back.

[humble imp]

Also, how do I open this chest?

[grave acorn]

but the dear look so cool, they have green sparkles and stuff

[humble imp]

I have to open it for a sparrow tale

[grave acorn]

thats the exit i think

[humble imp]

ah

[grave acorn]

there should be another entrence somewhere around

[distant jungle]

It's a bugged spawn, you have to cancel the quest.

The chest has nothing to do with the dungeon.

[static zinc]

Also try relog

[normal sail]

[static zinc]

Or entering and exiting nearby dungeon

[distant jungle]

Yeah, many have had that happen in that precise location.

[hidden gale]

Round 4 with the stag and no armor fragments yet. Garren give me luck

[grave acorn]

wait question, what is the point of capitalisem kamel if founder is only of site?

[distant jungle]

Nothing you can do about it but leave the area until the quest ends.

[ripe token]

roll into box

[static zinc]

You don’t need to be part of faction to enter the areas. I was Alca at start but went ahead and unlocked Rose and Kith as well. You just can’t talk to faction leader

[normal sail]

not my photo, i just zoomed into the chest Peace needs for their tale

[hidden gale]

In fact, I just got dracs and a single resource.

[ripe token]

it work ty

[static zinc]

When game fully releases capitalism camel will probably be the market vendor like the console in Warframe

[ripe token]

where skip dialog option

[grave acorn]

ah i see

[static zinc]

There’s not

[ripe token]

welp i unlocked my first syndicate yippee

no more quests? 😢

[edgy sigil]

after bear no

welcome to the grind

[ripe token]

more quests in future?

[neon meadow]

where can i get sappheline?

and moranite?

[static zinc]

Glades chest have pretty good chance

[neon meadow]

what about moranite?

[static zinc]

Same

The rare chest at the end

The one with a flower and gold glow

Has a pretty good chance for moronite or saphaline and occasionally both at once

[sinful hinge]

Is it on Xbox yet

[sinful hinge]

gasp anaxa?

[edgy sigil]

yes

[neon meadow]

aight thanks

[static zinc]

Hello hello

[static zinc]

Also no

[brittle nacelle]

I could enter alca's while starting with silent rose faction but for kith the specter only spawned when I equiped the amulet to do the swap for me. thought that's the requirement to spawn it

[distant jungle]

There is no requirement to spawn it, it's just buggy.

And you don't ever have to equip the amulets, merely have them crafted to talk to the faction NPCs.

[pallid apex]

picktrix powder (sirin) bugged? i cant finish hit enemies

both trick of the light and glamour work for sneak attacks but picktrix powder doesn't somehow

[plucky junco]

i think it might be 🥹

[static zinc]

Yeah no requirement, just bug

[distant jungle]

Known bug, been there for a long time, only works on a few enemy types.

I think bannerets can still be finishered during it.

Both large enemy types that can spawn as one.

[pallid apex]

Thats weird. also this stun is like... waaaaay too short its like 2 seconds at best. also glamour walking speed is.... awfull. you cant even sprint in it. also, if an enemy is winding up an attack while u go invisible he will still autofocus on you even if you walk away and you get visible instantly.

[plucky junco]

if it helps, i think you can still dodge during glamour

[grave acorn]

where did verminia go in her quest?

[pallid apex]

thanks! actually helps a lot just tried it out

[plucky junco]

||if she left the nightfold, i think she goes back to the place where you met her the first time||

[versed spoke]

I just had an idea for the Revive system for Soulframe. What if instead of just doing a default down and revive thing like most games, they incorporated Soul Steal into the revive mechanics. Like it has a normal self revive thing, but for other players in your party, they could have a thing where when a player gets downed, they send out a wandering soul. Other party members need to soul steal to add progress to the revive timer, kind of like how you can activate Mockeries early before they detect you with Soul Steal. just a thought

[static zinc]

||this is correct||

[pallid apex]

pickpocket thingy also bugged?

[noble stratus]

Random question: What do the numbers in the top-right of the totem cards mean? Is it just a different number for each animal or is it some indicator of level or something?

[distant jungle]

Nah pickpocket works, you just gotta sit near an enemy that isn't aware of your presence until they drop loot.

You can do this by crouching up behind them or by using the butterfly thing to be invisible.

[plucky junco]

if an enemy has discovered you, pickpocket won't work on them, so it's not really something you can do after a fight starts, for example

[noble stratus]

Specifically the enemy has to be completely unalerted, so they won't drop anything from pickpocket if they're suspicious or trying to look for you

[tawdry arrow]

i stopped playing heavily around p10. why do i feel so insanely weak now in p11?

it feels like i'm getting bullied by enemies

[calm ginkgo]

they made enemies harder, but also added runes and totems to let us make ourselves stronger

[tawdry arrow]

right and aren't runes a rare drop? i've done about 4 full boss runs and not gotten any

[calm ginkgo]

they also updated the enemy combat AI to coordinate a little better

[tawdry arrow]

the bosses ironically feel weaker in comparison to normal enemies

[fossil helm]

Sooo, is there any way to check my reputation level without going to the faction base?

[plucky junco]

it should pop up when you complete a faction tale usually

[fossil helm]

oh, yeah, I meant I dont remember if Im neutral or higher 😄

[static zinc]

Totems are main source of survivability now

[plucky junco]

you should be able to tell based on the number

[static zinc]

Runes are very rare, prepare for sad grind.

[plucky junco]

if it's less than 5000, you're rank 0, if it's between 5000 and 10000, you're rank 1, and so on

[tawdry arrow]

i have wazzards wish but it seems weaker than the triune talisman

[modern ferry]

What's actually the reason the preludes discord was merged? or why were there even two to begin with i guess?

[halcyon thicket]

One only had people who had access to the game

[plucky junco]

it was more relevant when preludes was under NDA

[halcyon thicket]

So they focused on feedback/bug reports

[modern ferry]

ohh i see i see, i understand. Thanks

[covert minnow]

game turned out pretty good too

[modern ferry]

Yeah true i think i already got like 60 hours or something in it xd

[static zinc]

It’s still pre alpha

[covert minnow]

i know i played it

[distant jungle]

Just organizational stuff. Nothing in the game is under NDA anymore and anything in the discord itself being under NDA was becoming increasingly unnecessary. It's also just easier to manage and moderate one discord vs two.

So now both people within the prelude and without get to exist in the same server.

[warm forge]

Hii

[pallid apex]

what is "smite"

[normal sail]

when you smack around an ode enemy enough that they have a glowing star in their chest that's one of three virtue colours

[distant jungle]

Your weapon has smite chance, which is the chance to, with every hit, cause a smite. This causes an enemy to light up one of three colors. You then use the generic spirit interaction, which is holding spectral sight and attacking, Q + Left Click on KB & M, to tear out a piece of their soul. This does damage, recharges your pact ability of the corresponding color, and triggers both your equipped rune and certain passives.

[vagrant fable]

i found a little broken statue in a lake which glows when i press q but nothing when i left click

[distant jungle]

It'll be F, the interact key, and their hitbox tends to be touchy.

So you may want to rotate around it and stay a step or two back.

[fossil helm]

Anyone knows if summoned ghost wolf counts as an "Ally"?

[distant jungle]

If it's a Juniper statue that you've already done before, you won't be able to do it again.

[distant jungle]

For the passive, yes, it counts.

[fossil helm]

thanks!

[jaunty parcel]

It would seem I've reached the daily standing cap (How dare they, I'm not done yet) Does anyone know when the daily reset is?

[plucky junco]

i assumed it was at midnight UTC, but i haven't tested it

the warframe reset was just a few minutes ago i think, so if you reached your cap before then, you can maybe try again to see if it goes up now

[jaunty parcel]

Wonderful news. I'll give it a go and report back

It has indeed reset!

[plucky junco]

that's helpful to know for future reference 🥳

[dire helm]

I didn't think there was a daily standing cap?

[jaunty parcel]

Things of note:

1. Daily standing limit is around 16,000 rep
2. Daily reset is at 12am UTC

[plucky junco]

yep, 16k is fairly high so most people won't reach it on most days

[jaunty parcel]

Neither did I! I thought I was experiencing some sort of crazy bug XD

[distant jungle]

Meanwhile, I, who farmed both my second and third faction to max rank within 24 hours each.

By playing while the daily reset happened.

[dire helm]

I would have thought so too.

[distant jungle]

Think I knocked both out in a few hours.

[jaunty parcel]

A true connoisseur

[dire helm]

How are you guys getting so much rep?

[distant jungle]

Determination, and farming on the far eastern side of the map.

[plucky junco]

yeah, it's not impossible, but most people aren't going to run that many tales back to back in a single session

[jaunty parcel]

The burnout is real

[dire helm]

Like, faction ranks are 5k each. 5 of those per faction is 25k

How on earth are you doing that many tales " in a couple of hours"?

[plucky junco]

the most i've seen from a single tale in the current version is 500

[dire helm]

A "couple" is freaking 2

[jaunty parcel]

Depends on how many I can join. A couple of hours is an understatment in my case

[dire helm]

You're joining on other people's tales?

[fossil helm]

my theory is that current rep "gain" is a bit lower than it will be in the future. it would make sense

[distant jungle]

I mean, that's 50 tales to max it out.

It's a lot but certainly not impossible.

They only take a few minutes each.

[jaunty parcel]

100% yes

[distant jungle]

I did it all solo.

Really doesn't take that long on a dedicated grind.

[jaunty parcel]

Longest part is waiting for the T3's to spawn

[dire helm]

3 minutes per tale is still 2.5 hours for 50 tales

[sturdy pond]

Hello everyone! Hope you guys are having a wonderful day!

[jaunty parcel]

Yea I can't prove it but I think Chloranthy is being a bit disingenuous with his time commitment lol

[distant jungle]

Remember that I didn't say a couple, I said a few, as in like 3-4.

It does not take that long if they're all you're doing.

[distant jungle]

Nice to know that you jump to me lying though, I guess.

[normal sail]

there's also an unknown number of bugs with faction tales, plus you have to factor in if you get a dungeon tale the distance you'd have to walk back to the NE part of the map

[distant jungle]

You skip dungeon ones with a quick relog.

Or by just moving away. They're a waste of time.

At that time a relog abandoned them.

[jaunty parcel]

I think you're blowing my words far out of proportion

[plucky junco]

let's just agree that it's a misunderstanding and nobody is intentionally misleading anyone

[dire helm]

3-4 hours is still insanely optimistic.
I've never seen 500, and I know the average payout is much lower.

[jaunty parcel]

From my experience average payout is 350

[distant jungle]

Payout is 500 at high enough level.

You stick to the NE-most map fragment for the most consistency.

[dire helm]

It's normal in my experience to hear people who don't mind or enjoy the grind, also underestimate the grind time.

[jaunty parcel]

Still 2.5 minutes per is very optimistic if you include travel time, time for the tales to respawn and clearing the tale

Closer to 5-10. Collector missions alone are an easy 5 minute wait

[dire helm]

I freaking despise the faction grind. So for me it feels longer even if I somehow optimized it better than you.

[jaunty parcel]

It's pretty rough, but they are increasing rep gains on tuesday

[grave acorn]

anything to do with the glowing doors in the crypt?

[jaunty parcel]

they're also reworking the rep rewards, so thats cool

[visual heron]

Are you doing tier 1 tales? I can't imagine tier 3 only being a few minutes even with the simplest tasks.

[plucky junco]

are you looking at red/green/blue murals? or actual doors?

[distant jungle]

The distance between objectives isn't big, each whole tale will have less than a minute of travel time collectively.

[grave acorn]

murals

[distant jungle]

And I only picked up 1 stars when a 3 star didn't spawn fast enough.

[dire helm]

Need to get AccuWeather's RealFeel rating in here, but for grind instead of temp. Lol

[plucky junco]

if you lure the circade boss next to one of them and kill him there, you can get a talisman which is part of the festival of the circade thing

[distant jungle]

And if it wasn't a collector spawn then the whole tale is done in like 2 minutes.

Stag and bannerets can both be killed in seconds.

Stag could, and still can, easily be killed while it's still popping out and before it can actually move.

It has no invincibility window like king does.

[visual heron]

Stag alone takes me several minutes, and multiple deaths...

[normal sail]

and stag is the only 'boss' that can be smited^

[dire helm]

Yeah most people aren't going to manage that kind of kill time

[distant jungle]

I can kill it before it moves with polearm throw spam and no pact skills active.

[visual heron]

I don't think I've used a single polearm yet, and I've crafted Gath.

[distant jungle]

But throws also scale linearly to caps that we cannot reach yet, and I play very high Courage.

Throws get very oof at 40+ Courage.

[dire helm]

I'm level 14, and I'm not sure if I can reach 40c yet

[visual heron]

It's funny how in multiple servers I'm realizing I play much more casually than a lot of others.

[dire helm]

I haven't tried really...

Yeah me too

[distant jungle]

+5 from pact, at the time +3 from motes, +19 from assigned points, +10 from pact node, +1 permanent from fable, +1 from talisman.

I think there's something I'm missing too, that was off the top of my head.

[dire helm]

Can get +5 from talisman if you use the synod's bell jar

[distant jungle]

Perhaps not quite 40, you can definitely get past 40 now as I'm at 44.

I was talking about when I turbo farmed my factions, which was before then.

I did it in P10.

Right now we have Bell Jar as the BiS talisman and motes no longer exist.

[dire helm]

Which evens out to +1 higher

[distant jungle]

Well now it's 5 from pact, 10 from pact node, 20 from assignable, 2 from base (that's what I was forgetting), 5 from talisman, uuuhhh.

I think I'm forgetting something again. Aha, the +2 from fables.

[dire helm]

What's the +1 permanent from fable?

[distant jungle]

I know I'm at 44 right now though, and that's what the max is.

In the fables, two of them now, you get a virtue choice. What you choose is a permanent +1.

[dire helm]

.....those give virtue points? Seriously?

[distant jungle]

Yes.

[plucky junco]

you can replay the one from the shewolf snared to change your choice if you want to now, but not the waste bear, i think

[dire helm]

I thought it was just a meaningless alignment thing like Warframe

[distant jungle]

Waste Bear isn't replayable yet, but you can change your Shewolf choice, as Lychee said.

[dire helm]

Okay, that's good

Hope they either always let us change choices or do something else entirely with this design choice, because if we get locked in at some point it's gonna suck after balance passes throw off our builds.

[distant jungle]

I think the replay function in the codex is planned to be standard, though that's a guess.

I haven't seen anything about them removing it, it just isn't available for newer fables.

[dire helm]

It's only two points now, but imagine 5 years from now how many that could be

[plucky junco]

there was a lot of feedback about that when the choice with orengall couldn't be changed so i think they're aware of it

[distant jungle]

If it gets large enough it could threaten to restrict how flexible you are in changing between builds.

As you'd have to go through the effort of replaying a bunch of fables.

In the current environment that doesn't matter cus you just go Courage, but a rebalance could change that.

[dire helm]

Really they will probably have to rewrite the points system around the virtues anyway, because by then we'll have enough points from mastery to almost invalidate the system.

It's either that, or they raise the attunement limits indefinitely over time.

[distant jungle]

The system as is has a theoretical cap where upwards motion stops, yes.

Given that weapon caps are anywhere from the 20s to the 30s and a few laughably higher, and charged shot and throw caps being like, 70+, that limit won't be hit for a very long time though.

It will make throw gameplay more and more prominent though, I expect, as it'll outscale everything.

And then a weapon is good or bad depending on how convenient its throw is to spam.

So it definitely needs some work in the future, but hey, that's what a pre-alpha is for.

[dire helm]

Yeah, because then throwing knives, magic weapons, and bows start taking the lead, because their ranged heavies (throws) are some of the easier ones to use

short blades are also nice, I like throwing those

haven't used spears in a while, can't remember what they were like

[distant jungle]

Idk if magick weapons have an attack that scales like that but I also don't use them, so they might. I know bow charged shots and melee throws do scale super high, so like, Short Blade, Polearm, Bow I see climbing with every new MR level.

Hell even Shield, its throw is great, it just needs another weapon in the category for builds to exist lol.

[dire helm]

yeah a lot of weapon categories are short on weapon arts points at the moment, but I've also heard that system is slated for a rework

right now long blades have 9 in thier category, so they can theoretically max out all nodes, and short blades can by way of having both a primary set (3) and secondary set (4) of weapons in their category.

[distant jungle]

Yeah I have points in those I cannot spend.

[dire helm]

by my math, any weapon type that reaches 7 weapons right now will have enough to max out

[distant jungle]

It makes me sadge.

[dire helm]

32 points is all you need, and 7 gets you to 35

which is very easy to reach at the moment, so I can see why they would want to rework this

at a minimum, they might end up changing it to 1 point per weapon, which would mean needing 32 weapons to cap everything out, but I suspect it'll turn into another modding system of some kind so that you can't get all possible benefits on a weapon at the same time

[distant jungle]

I heard something about skills being more universal and collectible in some way.

Perhaps with a system with a limited amount of slots you can 'equip' those in.

Which kind of sounds like totems but not but hey, whatever works.

And anything can change before and even after release so all we can do is wait and see.

[dire helm]

-# it's all just the warframe modding system, over and over lololol

[distant jungle]

Hey, it works, lol.

I'd rather something that is reliable than something that is entirely new for the sake of being new.

[dire helm]

armor doesn't have 'modding' of any kind yet, so I say they bring back motes as armor modding and then take as many of the more generic weapon arts effects as possible and bolt them into armor effects.
And then make the more specific ones into new totem effects for the weapons themselves

[distant jungle]

Don't need to bring back motes for that, could just be totems for armor and totems for weapons. With different effects.

[dire helm]

I mean, what are they going to do with armor modding anyway? +health +armor +stagger oh wait, totems do that conditionally already, armor has it baked in already

[distant jungle]

New totems are being introduced in P12 apparently.

It's part of the listed content.

[dire helm]

hopefully motes come back to be used for something

otherwise just give us the name of the place when we go there the first time -- there's literally no point in making us hunt around for lore or not spawning all 3 of them every time we visit at least

I mean, I'd be happy if it just meant music for our music player (which we don't have yet, but give DE time)

[distant jungle]

They do unlock lore entries, so getting all the motes means having all the lore for that location.

And they also give MR xp.

There's still a point for them to exist even if motes as we knew them are never present again.

Totems are just a better system.

[dire helm]

I'll agree that totems are better for modding our gear.

still wanna see motes doing something in our nighthold, they're cute lol

[normal sail]

mote 'ephemera' for collecting all the island location names

[quiet quiver]

inb4 locked out by the one off shore world tree

[normal sail]

not trees, just the location names

plus that island will eventually be properly accessible

[fierce scaffold]

is there a hide hud hotkey?

whats with the laughing react?

[lethal halo]

Nothing personal, Envoy.
There is an ongoing... evolution to the visibility of the interface. :3

[fierce scaffold]

:T

you could have just said no

[distant jungle]

I think there's an option somewhere? I haven't looked in a long time so I'm not sure.

[plucky junco]

not as a hotkey, it's an option you have to go into the menu to toggle

i'd like a hide hud hotkey, i was going to put some more feedback about it, but i've been busy

[fierce scaffold]

even then that button doesn't hide everything. it doesn't hide chat

in order to get it to disapear entirely i need to open a dm with a player then not send anything, then wait for about a full minute for the tabs to go away

makes screenshots a bit of a pain

[lethal halo]

I'm for having no/less hud, and there should definitely be a way to toggle it off for screen shots.

[distant jungle]

You can hide all chat channels in the options.

Which makes it go away and never pop up.

[plucky junco]

but that's even more buttons to press if you want to toggle them 🥹

[distant jungle]

Yep.

[viral trail]

lmao Fellust sneak streaks are a meme, just instakilled a Banneret boss on a 3* Sparrows Tale

[normal sail]

a Digital Extremes game without the unhinged region chat messages that catch me off guard sounds disappointing

[fierce scaffold]

game pretty. i wanna take screenshots of it

[lethal halo]

[Something happening for the next few seconds cause of timing]
::starts into the menus::
[moment over]

[viral basalt]

greetings! i just came back last night, apparently there's major change with the Pact system. If I remember correctly, other than the 3 abilities that is red green and blue, there's one more ability i could do based on chosen Pact, like with Tempest I could summon a ball that zaps nearby continuously. Has that ability been removed? If not, how do I use that ability?

[distant jungle]

Sounds like Idol? abilities, which have been removed.

[viral basalt]

ahh I see, thank you very much

[normal sail]

idol abilities are allegedly coming back some way as weapons and/or runes

[versed spoke]

I just want to say that I hope in the future we get some Armor sets with more unique effects, maybe passive abilities linked to certain armor sets or set bonuses that buff our character? Right now the only thing that armor does change the armor stats. I'd like to see more in-depth changes in the future, so not everyone is running around with the same build.

[twilit lance]

I think that a one day timer on faction talismans is diabolical

[ivory swan]

Hey guys, what is the source of scrap steel? The weapon racks and thats it ?

[twilit lance]

yerop

idk if the bisculams drop metal

if you need a quick farm, run through fort curlail and hop into the nearby glades, then out, and that will reset everything

[ivory swan]

Got it, thx

[fallen orchid]

When we leave one faction & join another, do we keep our standing with the previous faction?

[plucky junco]

yep, you just won't be able to buy stuff from it or do tales for it until you switch back

[lilac robin]

hey guys can someone show me the ropes on what to do after doing the fables?

[charred fossil]

Not sure if this is the right room, but for those of us involved in Preludes, was there a prerequisite for any preludes-related rewards? I had to step away for a few months due to difficult RL things but wanted to see if Prelude players would get any exclusives. Won't be upset if they don't, just curious if I missed a window.

[fallen orchid]

Mostly randomly fight bosses, do tales for the factions, explore, collect resources. Have Fun!

[fallen orchid]

You should be good to go

[charred fossil]

Okay, thank you. I joined in April, Preludes 9. And I'm actually not sure if Preludes players get anything, so.

[plucky junco]

there haven't been any exclusive preludes rewards or anything like that since then, but there are a couple events with stuff to earn in case you're worried about time-limited things and haven't done them yet
one is the halloween event with the masks, and the other is the festival of the circade

[quiet quiver]

how do u get the newer masks again

i only got crone cucurbita from last year's

[distant jungle]

Run around and whap scarecrows and squash, though the latter isn't even really needed now.

[quiet quiver]

ah so the same way

[paper cargo]

Which fragments you get depends on where you are on the map though

[distant jungle]

Scarecrows have been made to drop seeds too, and both drop so many that you're going to get enough just farming for the frags.

[quiet quiver]

ooh do enlighten me

[distant jungle]

Most of the time, each mask has a tendency to drop in certain zones.

Zook is much more common in the south, Poppa in the north, and I've heard Crone from the west but I've gotten it more commonly south-ish near the Wraith's area.

And I've gotten a ton of Poppa dead west, literally right outside of Curlail and just below.

That's why I moved elsewhere to look for Crone even.

So it's definitely not set in stone. At least one person farmed them all in the SW around King's goop zone, and another found all three going up and down the far west coast.

[paper cargo]

Ah, didn't know it wasn't entirely fixed. For me, using the map (e.g. here: #1441598377359048765 message) did the trick

[lilac robin]

how do i defeat the stag? after the fable i feel like its too difficult it barely takes damage..

[distant jungle]

Don't rush to high level zones.

Or to 3-star faction tales.

The more east you are, the spicier it gets, pretty quickly.

[gray cape]

Anyone know where to farm Synod's Maiden

[plucky junco]

shoul be from the swampy corrupted areas i think

[gray cape]

Thanks for replying

[crisp oriole]

anyone else find the invisible sky ladder?

[grizzled depot]

someone recommended to me the area on the southwest, where Mendicant King is, its easy to see the flowers and a lot of expanse for them to spawn

once you do a lap, swap in and out for them to generate once more

[gray cape]

Okay Sounds Good and thanks for replying I mainly play Solo as well.

[nocturne robin]

i have some questions regarding stat scalings, each of my abilities in my pact seems to correspond with one of the three, does have more points into that of the three increase the ability affectiveness? it seems it does but i wanna be 100% sure that im not imagining it

[versed spoke]

Can I cycle between the Mendicant King zones to farm his Fragments? Or is it a situation where no matter which part of the map, there's a boss timer for Mendicant King?

[still ore]

No not yet it’s a relic

[plucky junco]

mendicant king should only appear in the southwest of the map, i'm pretty sure

[grizzled depot]

not really... Courage tends to be the stat equivalent to Strength of the skill, Spirit tends to be related to the Duration and Grace usually affects the Range of it

[versed spoke]

damn. I'll try to cycle anyways, see if that works

[nocturne robin]

so if i wanted my flock of songbirds to do big damage id crank courage

[grizzled depot]

odds and ends and weird interactions, for minmax and actual knowledge its recommended you check the wiki for better numbers on how each skill is afflicted or.... if its even broken (like Mora's Hand not scaling <_<u)

[grizzled depot]

a lot of hits means also duration, birds rise stagger so its a good strategy to get enemies stunned for you to do a finisher

and birds contagion to a nearby enemy

[nocturne robin]

ok i see i see

[distant jungle]

Yeah, Courage is bonus power, Spirit duration, and Grace range, but each skill has its own formula for scaling, and some outright don't scale with one or another, but Courage tends to be the most generically useful and Grace, by a substantial degree, the least.

For Phantom Flock? I think it's called, having some duration can be good because its main thing is pumping stagger.

[nocturne robin]

yeah so in that case ill just keep cranking spirit further since bestone also does nothing with courage

and the flower doesnt scale at all

[distant jungle]

Bestone has a damage multi on the hit that shatters its effect that scales with Courage.

And the flower doesn't scale at all yes.

I'd honestly recommend Courage, as the Bestone scaling is much more substantial than Flock's spirit scaling.

Flock has a base of 11 seconds and even with 40 Spirit that only rises to 15.

Meanwhile 40 Courage increases Bestone's multi from 2x to 2.8x.

As well as increases Flock's damage.

Bestone has 1 for 1 Spirit scaling for duration but has a base of 20 seconds which is more than you need.

[normal sail]

i forgot there is a really easy way to crash the game

gonna see if its repeatable before i log it

[grizzled depot]

guess its courage then for oscelda too after meeting staff requirements... or I guess reforge into courage

why do I feel that some pacts should give some bonuses for their supposed attuned virtue

[normal sail]

yeup, sure is

[civic needle]

omg i just realized all the taxing to places in recruit chat is cuz ppl dont wanna walk all the way there 😭

[gray cape]

So uh anyone get an Item Drop from "The Butcher" called "Unidentfied Item" cause I just got that just now and it also had a Question Mark for the Icon as well

[distant jungle]

I don't think 'The Butcher' is even intentional as I've had several bosses spawn with that name instead, I think it's a default.

Unidentified Item is another display error, you got a frag and it just didn't display properly.

It'll still be in your inventory, you just get to guess what it was lol.

[gray cape]

Ah okay. I was just curious as to what it was cause when I killed the Boss for my Mission I just noticed it. Good to know though

[dusty hatch]

Who's the butcher supposed to be? Or is that a funny way to say Kabocha?

[distant jungle]

It's just a name that spawns in place of what a boss's name should be on occasion.

I've had it on bannerets, I've had it on Circade.

[dusty hatch]

Ah, so no world boss

[distant jungle]

I think it's just a default the game mistakenly applies occasionally.

Perhaps a term used in testing at an earlier stage.

[grizzled depot]

ok i feel like i got to say it cause its starting to become a bit of an elephant in the room, but is it just me that believes that, as fun as it is, Bromeus is absolutely overtuned in the 1?

[dusky iris]

is the extra range on polearms noticable enough in gameplay to justify using them?

[grizzled depot]

for a game that is priding itself on slow, methodical combat and a return to basics, Bromeus is absolutely enticing on a nuke warframe style of playing

you have hilariously high damage AoEs with it in a very short cooldown

[plucky junco]

i think it's been mentioned that most of the pacts need to be looked over in some way, so they're probably aware of some balancing issues

[grizzled depot]

its great that as a later pact its powerful but i reeeeeally believe its too free too much I would say

I am resorting clearly to equip a lv0 weapon and stomping around on endless

[dusky iris]

does it scale up ridiculously as you level??? i have it at rank 13 and it doesn't seem all that crazy at all

[grizzled depot]

600+ damage

with obviously 40+ courage ofc, but still

[dusky iris]

that's with rank 3 on all skills?

[grizzled depot]

mind that you can pump more damage with the 3

yeah

[dusky iris]

damn

well guess i'll have smt to look forward to while i suffer thru the lower levels haha

[quiet quiver]

courage = butt slam go brr

also u can use the butt slam form top of mountain to cover a great distance

[dusty hatch]

anyone up for a 10 world bosses run? no on in recruiting or in-game is responding. new players welcome

[stable quarry]

Guys, how i unlock Tethren pact?

[grizzled depot]

tbf fall damage is kind of funny cause you can null gravity attacking with any weapon

[dusky iris]

guess its a good thing i thought to snag synods bell jar or whatever its called

[dusty hatch]

you can buy it from the king faction

[grizzled depot]

although i know you mean diagonal down cliff buttstomp which yeah XD

[quiet quiver]

rank up to 3 with your starting faction -> get sacred shimmer -> forge medallion of mora to be able to speak with Kith of Kings faction rep -> join them to access their shop

[stable quarry]

thx bro

[quiet quiver]

when the banneret for kearnhold dont spawn i intrude with buttslam from nearby mountain 😂

[grizzled depot]

tbf if the banneret doesnt spawn usually means inside Castellan hasnt either (you can check if the balloon is up from outside)

[quiet quiver]

na sometimes its the tank that spawns in that spot despite its my first visit of the day

im aware of the cooldowns, i only do the bosses like once a day at best anyway

[grizzled depot]

I only do discharged nimrod nowadays (<_< that rune... not dropping...)

[dusky iris]

i think it could be balanced somehow to be more fair. i mean tethren pumps out insane levels of damage with felllust and with call of the ancients you also get a fair amount of bulk on top of that, but i wouldn't exactly call it unbelievably broken since you do still need to be landing hits to get that level of damage (even if i think the scalar value could stand to be toned down, i've taken bosses down from half health to dead with a single felllusted riposte before lol)

[grizzled depot]

yeah tethren at least has the single target excuse

imo Bromius should divide damage or reduce % per more enemies hit