gameplay-discussion

[digital path]

I mean yeah, it's likely tied to her crafting level. We're capped at 3 right now but it obviously will go higher

[turbid summit]

The Deimos characters change as you rank up in the syndicate, so it will probably be similar to that

[boreal dove]

i don't think we can change Verminia tho

[brazen sparrow]

Her sight or perception should slowly restore

[boreal dove]

|| Girl told me i was grey then ran away to a grey cave that looks like a 13 year old bedroom ||

[turbid summit]

does she still offer a daily consumable that dispels nimrod? or was that changed?

[boreal dove]

you need to brew it now, no more freebies

[fringe citrus]

hey everyone i have a question ..i played this..for quite some time.like killed that deer lady...
is this game litttle out of place for anyone

like story is not there..just run from here to there

[errant root]

Game is still basically an alpha.

[fringe citrus]

is it like item description type lore/

ooo

[errant root]

The lore is still being hammered out

[visual radish]

Hell it's actually a pre alpha

We are very early

[edgy sigil]

if you didn't skip the cutscene in the middle of the quest, I feel like you would connect more on who the deer lady is

[visual heron]

They might have meant they played it a while ago and took a break, so they don't remember much.

[errant root]

Ahhh true, Im enjoying how vaguely confusing and strange everything is.

[fringe citrus]

yup..but since its in early development..there is no point for me to expect much..

[edgy sigil]

the grind will soon get to you, enjoy all the strange new world while you can

[fringe citrus]

yes i did that thing to me

lol

[turbid summit]

I am too. it reminds me of when I first played demons souls. I had imported it before it came to the US so there was barely any info on it anywhere

[visual heron]

Pick up any plants that you can interact with.

[errant root]

To prep for release, go read the Mabinogion. Actually just do that anyway.

[ionic widget]

First I have heard of this, you have piqued my interest.

[smoky blade]

I can buy from other faction? Even when m alcas?

[knotty moon]

You need to be part of the faction.

[visual heron]

You're able to switch factions.

[turbid summit]

how do you switch factions? just talk to the person?

[lone shore]

before I go trying to make a bug/feedback report--is there some reason I keep losing the ability to interact with things/pick things up? relogging fixes it, and the buttons still work (I can mash X to break free of a hold, for example) but I can't loot or free critters or interact with things in the Nighthold

[thin hazel]

I suggest to farm everything from your current faction before switching since there is a 1 week timer between switching. You switch by buying a shimmer from the faction and then use it to switch

[knotty moon]

Reach rank 3 with your faction, buy a Sacred Shimmer (or two), find the fragments of the Talisman of the faction you want to join, then craft it.
Once you done this, reach the HQ and talk to the faction leader, you will be able to join then.

[thin hazel]

did you switch your interact to x? Just making sure, since F is the default to interact!

[lone shore]

X is the controller button; F on keyboard is also not working

[thin hazel]

definitely sounds like a bug honestly...I'd make a post if someone hasn't yet!

[lone shore]

that's what I was afraid of--what's the way to do that at present?

[thin hazel]

I keep forgetting about the talismans

[thin hazel]

#1438224825113120788

[bright anvil]

Oh. I see this is about Gameplay discussion (didn't see chat title sry)

[knotty moon]

Check the website, if you log in it should tell you if your account is enabled.
They roll out codes every week, plus watching streams with an account linked.

Founders pack will come out the 25th, 30$ for the individual pack, no confirmed info on the bundle.
This also should give access to the game.

[thin hazel]

also see if you can recreate it. Maybe a pact ability causes it, or something like that. Or does it sorta just happen all the time?

[lone shore]

oh lord, i looked for that but didn't realize the category wasn't unfurled all the way

[cunning stirrup]

U can try to rebind it to another button and try if it accepts it

If it works, put it back to default afterwards

It worked for me, but idk if it’ll work the same for you

[bright anvil]

Thank you very much. I thought putting wrong info on wrong chat may be troublesome

Sorry for my english

[thin hazel]

it's honestly no problem, Senki!

[lone shore]

thanks, going to bug with it now that I see the forums I missed (I'm admittedly old and forget forums are a thing in discord now)

[bright anvil]

Thank you 😄

[lone shore]

definitely think it's a bug since the little ingame prompts to interact aren't even showing up, thanks again!

[thin hazel]

no problem!

[lone shore]

the Orengall pact abilities looks pretty cool, though, as an aside

[cunning stirrup]

Question; I tried playing multiplayer with a friend this morning and the enemy levels adjusted to most of them being lvl25-30+. Does the game average both of your levels? Or just the player with the highest level?

When I left that friend’s instance, he said the enemy levels shot back down to lvl7-15 🤔

Idk if that’s how multiplayer normally works in the game or if it was a one off. Could anyone confirm?

[thin hazel]

Honestly, I never even knew it could do that! If you want, make a Q&A post for a solid answer from others, because that is definitely new to me! #1438224932323721296

Truthfully, I think that is on purpose since two is stronger than one and they want to sorta balance it out

[cunning stirrup]

I see! I’ll go ahead and post it in that channel in case there are needed discussions for it

I’ve posted it, just waiting on what others have experienced

[solemn sequoia]

is there a best choice between the precklies and skilter? or just looks really. i cant tell the different between em

[half talon]

I believe one is spirit based and one is courage based.

[knotty moon]

Skílter has a bit more damage and slightly better Smite chance.

[solemn sequoia]

hrmmm i see

[solemn sequoia]

yeah but i can do the silly blessed joinery

[cunning stirrup]

Yeah u can change their attunement when u max it out

[half talon]

I mean if you wanna use it on those sure. No wrong way to play (except cheating/exploiting)

[cunning stirrup]

I changed my Nettle’s attunement to Spirit cuz I’m running Oscera/Orengall 🤣

[edgy sigil]

I need to flute more animals.... do y'all just spend your totem currency to upgrade the rare ones?

[gray plover]

so in terms of leveling, when I acquire a new weapon is it best I go to lower level areas to level those weapons up? Is that the current way of progressing gear?

[cunning stirrup]

You can do Glades of Andurin which is the dungon with the door as an entrance.

Inside, there’s a deer statue somewhere and if u press it down, it triggers the endless waves of enemies

Starts from level 1 and scales upwards the more you kill

[gray plover]

Awesome, ty!

[cunning stirrup]

Just dont go into nightfold or die if youre solo

It ends the instance if you do

[lone shore]

Enjoying running around charming animals, workin' on building a rat gang. What's the white powder icon that shows up in the animal charming UI? I'm guessing it's some kind of currency or scoring but you know what they say about assuming

[manic patio]

If you played warframe it is this game endo, do better and earn more

Also you can "sell" totems where you equip them to earn more

[lone shore]

copy that, thank you! Is there somewhere ingame I can see what it's called?

[manic patio]

Might be able to in the nightfold when you equip totems, it shows in the top left. Not sure if it shows in your inventory yet

[cunning stirrup]

It shows when u press right click over a weapon

It’s at the top of the card on the left side that shows the totem’s effects when youre in the totem screen

[dusky tangle]

I believe it’s called Harmony but I’m not sure if the name appears in game yet

[marble jay]

Hello all,
Not sure if i'm stupid, if the game is unclear or if its a bug but i can't equip anything else than my sword (Sollos). I have Unsula, Rivt and Vasp in my inventory but i don't see anything else than my sword in the weapon slot.
Same for the pact, i defeated ||Garren rood|| but i can't equip the pact and it doesn't even appear in the pact menu. It appears in my inventory.

Did i miss something ?

[smoky crater]

it's called Harmony yes

[smoky crater]

you have to craft them first.

[dusky tangle]

You didn’t get those weapons, you got the blueprints for them. The blacksmith, once unlocked, can craft them for you

[smoky crater]

and for that you need to find the crafting related ancestor

[marble jay]

Oh ok thank you, Is it the same kind of problem concerning the pact ?

[smoky crater]

yes

[edgy sigil]

do y'all just throw your 1 stars after leveling them? are there any worth keeping?

[turbid summit]

I'm worried about weapons being crafting mats for other weapons like in wf

[distant jungle]

Those were the first I tossed, I think all have objective betters.

[ancient narwhal]

torn between keeping some of them for future ingredients like the Proboscis Cernos on wf

[strange gazelle]

I tossed the starting sword and the bow because even if they’re going to be used in the future they cost like 100rep from factions…
But I only tossed them because I neeeeed those weapon slots 🥹

[uncut cape]

idc im collecting every weapon and tanking the premium currency on slots

[cunning stirrup]

Same ahahahaha, they can also be crafted again if u have their fragments

[dusky tangle]

I have 4 weapons sitting in tuvalkane’s queue ready for pickup. I can’t stand to sell my gear 😤 will get more slots next week with arcs from founders

[regal glen]

someone maybe can give me the prelude code?

[thorn locust]

Is there actually a Rat totem for Long Blades? Or is it just super duper rare?

[vivid lotus]

there is yeah, it seems to be the most rare totem for long blades:

https://wiki.avakot.org/Rat_(Totem)

[thorn locust]

Ahh I see, thank you for linking that. Time to keep rat-catching 😂

[raw heart]

Anyone know the default cap for pacts before upgrades?

[vivid lotus]

i believe what you’re looking for can be found here:

https://wiki.avakot.org/Pacts

[vagrant kayak]

As in slots? 3, if you mean max level/bond points it's 30

[raw heart]

I meant slots, and ty :)

[narrow jolt]

Are there no like weapon arts nothing distinct about the individual weapons? I’m getting ds3 vibes but without any l2 skill to use.

[vagrant kayak]

Weapons have combat art trees that have somewhat unique passives to unlock, but there's nothing like weapon skills (yet)

And some weapons do have unique moves, Dewelion has a unique heavy attack for example, and Rook has an alternate sprint attack IIRC

[lone shore]

Another kinda getting-caught-back-up question--the motes you have to find to reveal location names on the map. Is there more to it than just magic mode + smite button? Trying to figure out if some of these are exceptionally well hidden, or time of day matters, or undetermined other variables matter

[drowsy yoke]

I found an invisible ladder at the far south end of the map. As far as I can tell it has no upper limit. I left the skybox and my visual character disappeared but I can still hear them climbing and my height is increasing. Anyone else found it?

[edgy sigil]

you can have up to two motes each instance of the tileset, if a location has 4 diamonds it will spawn two motes at a time

look for the little eyeballs looking at you from the unlit diamonds, tells you how many motes are loaded in

[ancient narwhal]

i hope we can customize the pact arm soon

[lone shore]

And if they're not loaded in, that means...wait for a daily refresh, or something else?

[edgy sigil]

enter a dungeon and get out, or relog

[lone shore]

gotcha, thanks!

[fierce scaffold]

is there inventory space for armor?

[sly escarp]

There is no space limit for armour

[fierce scaffold]

ah. well the game is not letting me claim my forged armor because of lack of inventory space

that sounds like a pretty serious bug

[sly escarp]

Are you pressing "Claim All"

?

@fierce scaffold

[fierce scaffold]

i tried at first, then tried clicking them individually

does that permanently break it?

[sly escarp]

Try relogging

Then selecting the individual pieces

Then pressing claim individually

[fierce scaffold]

yeah i relogged and it wont let me claim the tempest leathers

ok im gonna try closing the whole game

wait no, it worked on a second press

[autumn hull]

def add a bug report about it too, if u havent!

[fierce scaffold]

i just have to keep hitting it until it lets me claim it anyways

thats super weird

[sly escarp]

Neat pfp btw

[jolly cypress]

is asking for a key frowned upon here?

[sly escarp]

It is, yes

[jolly cypress]

got it

[spiral sorrel]

I have been farming for Archstorm for months. End my buffering.

[autumn hull]

yeah, would be nice if there was a place to get/give them tho

[sly escarp]

Okay magically makes it so you load instantly now

[lavish smelt]

what does one do when one feels underleveled? do i just explore around the map?

[edgy sigil]

do t3s

[sly escarp]

Faction tales are a good early source of power

[jolly cypress]

agreed

[lavish smelt]

im fairly new i just finished the stag fight

[sly escarp]

Maybe not t3s, the bosses are often too strong for newer players

[edgy sigil]

that's where they post in recruiting for a carry for the final boss?

win win

[autumn hull]

explore, find your faction and do tales

[sly escarp]

Ah, fair!

[wheat ridge]

what is the best courage weapon after igna mora

[lavish smelt]

im assuming ill learn what factions and tales are through gameplay/exploration?

[edgy sigil]

the stag taught you soul mode and using your sparrow, start doing the quest markers appearing on your compass with a star rating

or open the wiki and unlock the whole map by healing world trees

[calm ginkgo]

Frowned upon, yes. Most of the common chatters here are from the preludes server where it was against the rules to ask for keys.
However, reading through the rules here I only saw advertising invites for purchase as against the rules. Maybe moderation should add in some pointers on if/where (free) invites can be requested, especially with founders coming with more keys next week?

[autumn hull]

i cant remember how they introduce factions for new players... you should have a talisman equiped for the one u chose tho

[calm ginkgo]

The stag quest introduces you to the faction heads, and after finishing you get “an invitation” quest to take you to your current faction hub.

[sacred solar]

Any news about console release

[lavish smelt]

yeah thats precisely the thing i feel underleveled for

[edgy sigil]

you need to do it to do faction quests, you should be scaled appropriately for it you're good

if you choose spirit you only do a puzzle to finish it lol

[calm ginkgo]

Alca’s Children needs you to grab something close by, silent rose needs you to sneak to a chest (or kill everyone around), and kith of kings has a duel by moonlight.

[brazen bluff]

Morrows bane

[autumn hull]

you can ask for help with the stag in recruiting chat if it's giving u trouble

before you have access to factions, just exploring and defeating ode in the world is the only way to level

[wheat ridge]

cN YOU BTW DELETE WEAPONS GOT NO MORE SLOTS LEFT OR STUFF TO EXPAND IT

oops caps

[noble stratus]

I'm relatively new, so has DE previously said anything about the expected/intended power scaling in soulframe? Obviously Warframe has very intense power scaling with how much damage you can do and how many enemies you can face, but soulframe doesn't seem like it's being built that way. Are they expecting a flatter power curve?

[noble stratus]

I think you can sell weapons at the weapon rack in your nightfold tent iirc?

[lone shore]

thanks, made it myself

[pearl orbit]

trying to find the next quest, have just been wandering for the past like two hours. i have the first two nightfold NPCs, the scribe and the blacksmith, i only found the Kith of Kings faction, and i have done both Garren Rood and Orengall's quests.

anyone give me some pointers?

oh, wrong channel mayb

[edgy sigil]

unlock the map is a good place to start

[cursive veldt]

Brewer of Hues is prereq for Waste Bear if I remember rightly, so I'd recommend going to ||the tree dungeon south of Fort Curlail (the big fort in the starting area, slightly west of the center of the map iirc)|| to start that quest

[viral crow]

I've been waiting for a code to my Gmail account for a year, but it hasn't arrived. There was talk of it being dropped, but I didn't know about it and missed the broadcast. Is there another way I can get it?

[vagrant kayak]

You can still be invited every Wednesday, when devstreams happen they also come with codes as Twitch drops, and next week you could buy a Founder's pack for instant access

However, if you have been signed up for a year you SHOULD have been given access during Tennocon this year, so it may be worth logging in on the Soulframe website and checking if your account isn't active already

[viral crow]

Where does it say whether it is active or not?

[vagrant kayak]

On Soulframe.com under account management it will say if Preludes access is enabled or not

[viral crow]

No, it is still not active.

[viral crow]

The strange thing is that I have been registered for 1 year and the code has not arrived, but my friend did it 2 weeks ago and it arrived.

[sly escarp]

Weekly invites are sent at random

[versed veldt]

"just end me now"

[celest venture]

Question, what is the best way to make a kick and punch build here?

[plucky junco]

if you're sure you signed up before <t:1753070400:F>, you should be able to open a tiicket on the support portal about it here: https://support.soulframe.com
if possible, i'd try to look for the confirmation email you would have received when first creating your account to make sure of the date you joined

[stable quarry]

Hey guys, sorry for asking. But how do I progress in the story? I've played for about 3 hours and I've only done these Silent Rose mini-missions. Is that all?

[sly escarp]

There's a few quests: the ghost scholar one, the Stag one, the one that introduces you to your faction, the blacksmith one, the wolf one, the rat witch one, and the bear one.

Some of them require exploring and discovering them to start

You won't be guided to them, but will be guided through by the bird once started.

[grave acorn]

How do I get runes? Didn't get one :3

[plucky junco]

runes drop from 3 specific bosses in the overworld currently

[grave acorn]

Drop chance?

[plucky junco]

it should be the wazzard, discharged nimrod and etheldred, but it's fairly rare

[grave acorn]

I see I see

[sly escarp]

Current community guess at drop chance is iirc around 5%.

But that was a few hotfixes ago

And based on a limited dataset

[grave acorn]

Every 3 hours respawn

[sly escarp]

Yep

[grave acorn]

Ooof

[sly escarp]

Respawn every 3 hours, but you can join others and help kill their bosses for more chances

[grave acorn]

Will do, thanks :3

Excited to play, last time was prelude 7

[wide trench]

I'm torn between playing now, cuz I love the game, or waiting until my friend gets the game so that way it doesn't turn into the same situation as what happened when he joined WF

[grave acorn]

help, how do i kill the vadagar stag?

its health bar is gray

[plucky junco]

the grey health bar means that your weapon isn't doing enough damage to "break through" its armour right now

usually, some actions can still do some damage, like charged heavy attacks or some pact abilities if you want to try

[grave acorn]

awsome, heavy attacks worked

also someone mentioned endless mode somewhere?

[native wind]

can you eventually have more than one wolf up with orengall pact? everything seems like you could but my first wolf disappears after i summon another

[plucky junco]

there's a certain tile in the glades which has endless waves of enemies, yep, but you need to find it if you want to do it
it should look like the same arena as the one used for the torment stag fight

[plucky junco]

you can have two after you level the pact up enough, and having more spirit helps to increase the duration they stay up i think

[grave acorn]

thank you :3

[untold mortar]

[native wind]

ok great! yeah it stays up a while if i don't summon a second but i guess i just need to level it more. thanks!

[versed spoke]

real quick, anyone know where I can do a quick farm for the resources for the Epona Hue? I already have the Figment

[plucky junco]

if that's the one that needs jaden drops, those are most common at birdie's bog, i think, but i don't remember the other ingredients 🤐

the wiki over at avakot.org might have that info if you want an easy reference

[mighty crypt]

The moment they want to sacrifice their life using the thunder thingie and you sneeze their soul out of their body

[grave acorn]

anyone know how to open this door?

[plucky junco]

i could be completely mistaken, but if that's one of the doors near a crypt entrance, i don't think it can be opened

[grave acorn]

i see! thank you!

anothe question, how do i get the third halloween mask?

[plucky junco]

the different masks drop from scarecrows based on location - the crone cucurbita one is near the starting area, the lil zook one is roughly in the south, and the other one is roughly in the north, i think

[grave acorn]

awsome thanks! sorry for the spam questions, havent played since prelude 7 so am a bit lost

[plucky junco]

no worries, i didn't take a break and i'm still lost too 😇

[grave acorn]

wait can we ride the wolf yet?

[neon meadow]

wI want to craft this sword but where can i find Moranite?

[tribal socket]

I need pity farms for these boss fights because like i have 6 copies of witan and virdigris sets and like 5 of the mockery helm sets but still one frag short of the top

Its brutal out here

[plucky junco]

i wish we could 🥹

[plucky junco]

if avakot isn't selling it, i think from chests and bosses sometimes, but it's still fairly rare

[neon meadow]

aight thanks

[pastel summit]

hello im new to the game! downloading now! any tips and tricks i need to know as a new player?

[plucky junco]

i'd say it's fine to just figure things out as you go, if you go in with the understanding that it's a pre-alpha and things can be a bit incomplete or buggy

that's just my opinion though

[grave acorn]

is 3 star joinery the highest lvl?

[plucky junco]

should be, polished or blessed joineries give the same numerical bonuses, but blessed joineries also let you change the attunement

[cerulean mauve]

Do you guys think they will add skins? I kind of hope they don't and keep the armor unique and huntable. if that makes sense

[grave acorn]

awsome thank!

[plucky junco]

armour used to be all cosmetic before they added stats to them, and then they all gained the ability to become skins with bestitching if that helps

[ember plume]

how do you unlock other palettes?

[cerulean mauve]

that does, I may just be over thinking it and concerns of skins taking over and end game kinda turning into fasion frame.

[plucky junco]

for colours? you'll have to craft them
the faction vendors should sell some recipes

[ember plume]

I see thank you lychee

[cursive monolith]

I cant really text ingame chat cause I'm on steam deck, would anyone be down to help me learn how to play sometime?

I played up to the point of the stag, Garren

[wide trench]

anyone know what stat orengall scales with?

[plucky junco]

pacts don't scale with specific virtues entirely, but the abilities usually get influenced by them in some way

i think it might be easiest to refer to the avakot.org wiki for specifics, but spirit seems to be useful for orengall overall, along with a bit of courage

[crystal tusk]

People say Avakot is always guaranteed to appear at the well. I read his note, and I know that. Doesn't that lead to a dungeon?

[plucky junco]

if this is the well where you met him the first time, normally, he'll appear next to the rolling door after having completed the torment stag

[sly escarp]

He also can appear guaranteed in Oro's Well which is a different location the note is probably referencing

When you need an Avakot, check your nearest well.

[quasi sedge]

Hello! Am I being dumb or is this not working as intended? I currently have 13 physical defense 6 magic defense, and 270 max health, but any enemy above level 15 or so takes a huge chunk of my health with every hit, with some of the bigger ones around lv. 25-30+ (the ones with deer skull helmets, I think knights?) sometimes one-shotting me at full or almost full health...

[plucky junco]

i think your armour does need to be a bit better to cope with higher level enemies, but they still hit pretty hard regardless

i'm not really great with numbers though...

[quasi sedge]

Dang, I don't have any better armor yet... Guess I'll stick to lower-level areas until I do! (or maybe I'll just git gud, we'll see)

[sly escarp]

Those numbers are a bit low.

A lot of good armour comes from Totems though

Might be worth looking into getting those

[quasi sedge]

Ah I have a fair amount (love me a music minigame) but I hadn't realized you can get armor from those! I haven't gotten any runes yet though...

[sly escarp]

Some that give armour when slotted in the Defense slot

Runes only drop from certain bosses in the world

[quasi sedge]

I just finished the waste bear not too long ago so I haven't done much boss grinding, but I'm working on it and it'll be a lot better with the extra armor! Is there anything to do with extra totems besides melting them for dust?

[plucky junco]

you can equip a maximum of 4 on a single weapon depending on the weapon type and if you have the rune currently, but anything after that we can't really do anything with

[quasi sedge]

And since you can only do each totem once per weapon, so there's really no reason to keep more than one of each critter per weapon type?

[sly escarp]

Up to four of each critter per type

[plucky junco]

no, for any given weapon, you can slot 4 of the same animal potentially

it's a really specific thing to do, but basically, for now, 4 of any single animal + weapon combination is the max we have use for

[quasi sedge]

Ah so you can! I guess I tried when I only had one of whatever I tried it with before! Thanks!

[pallid narwhal]

ainda não lançou o jogo?

[plucky junco]

could you use english in this server, please?
the game is not released yet, but the pre-alpha is still happening now, and founders packs will be available on november 25

[pallid narwhal]

thx

[dapper rain]

i like to sherpa , feel free ot add inv whenever

[mellow sleet]

What is this?

[plucky junco]

that looks like one of the murals that are part of the festival of the circade

if you lure the dungeon boss next to it and kill him there, you should earn a talisman for it, i think

[mellow sleet]

I alr killed him sadness 😓

[harsh vine]

Please tell me how to contact customer support?

[plucky junco]

you should be able to open a ticket here if you need to: https://support.soulframe.com

[harsh vine]

And what should I write in the search engine?

[plucky junco]

if you need to open a ticket, there should be a button to "submit a request" in the top right

if it's a common issue, one of the articles there might be able to help you out, or you can try asking the community for help, but otherwise, that you should just be able to fill out a form and submit it from there

[rain apex]

hey guys, is there any specific way to get any materials or fragments?

im trying to make weapon

[plucky junco]

most fragments have specific drop sources, so it depends what you're looking for

the wiki at avakot.org has a lot of the info compiled in case you want a list to reference, i think

[rain apex]

ahh, thanks for the info

[left perch]

So, if rank 30 weapons, with a rank 30 pact, when the faction tale enemies are lvl 28 and die in 3 hits, and the Stag still barely takes any damage, what is supposed to be the correct level to beat it if I am still underleveled?

Also why the hell do the random enemies not despawn when the boss shows up? I don't want to 1v7 when 1v1 is already a challlenge

[harsh vine]

Thanks🤗

[distant jungle]

I don't see why enemies would despawn, that's why you just kill them first.

[plucky junco]

i think you can try investing in totems to get a bit further, but the balance is a bit imperfect right now

[distant jungle]

And I'd recommend making sure you have a joinery on your weapon, polished or blessed, and consider an attack beaver.

[worn hawk]

For all your Soulframe needs

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[rain apex]

thankyou, i never know it before, after i check it, it was help so much

[left perch]

put in a +15 joinery, and there are also no +damage totems in my inventory

[mellow sleet]

Is this door openable?

[plucky junco]

is that in the glades with some statues on top of it?

[mellow sleet]

Yeah these things

Oh I think I figured it out

[plucky junco]

if it's the one i'm thinking of, you just have to hit 3 nearby statues from a certain direction to open it

[mellow sleet]

Im so big brain (i randomly threw my weapon) also thx

[left perch]

So, got the wolf arm, but apparently the game doesn't like telling me things, so,
What does the first skill even do? I turn into a wolf, but when I press left click to lunge and try to hit something (which happened the first time I used it) I just instanly fall out of the form. No other button does anything special that I've seen, so what's the deal?

[plucky junco]

it was added in as a "scouting" ability, mostly, so that's mostly it right now

[left perch]

The "fight like you're feral" pact has a skill, where you can't use it to fight?

[plucky junco]

that's the way it is for now 🥹
there was a lot of feedback about it, and i remember it being mentioned that a lot of the pacts would get reworked at some point

[grizzled depot]

Orengall's 1 has a couple functions:

1. you run as a wolf, it has a duration but you dont know with a timer so you got to calculate yourself, or else you snap back, to teleport you attack

2. you can attack an enemy, usually its a regular attack, specially on bosses, but if you get close enough to an enemy a backstab action appears (even in front) and you can do yourself the attack big mom wolf does for 1000 damage

ideally you combine both functions for a nice entrance into a far place XD

but its a good delete button if you DONT get hit cause if you are using 1 and get attacked it will get canceled

[left perch]

Yeah, that seems to be the issue. I don't see why the pact I get form mama wolf, someone who comes out of nowhere to just kill, would have a scouting ability, so i think function 1 should just be scrapped.
Also the fact that the attack is tied to an interaction is terrible, because the enemies don't stop moving, you have to be too close to them to the point you will walk past your window of attack, and just jump at nothing and teleport.

[distant jungle]

If your original body does, the wolf form itself does not take damage.

Just to clarify.

[left perch]

Like, the way the skill functions now, I would see this as the Stag's ability, not the Wolf's

[mellow sleet]

How many times do I ring this bell there is a throne under it

[distant jungle]

The interaction is a crit animation, it cannot 'miss'. If you press attack while the prompt is up, it'll instantly start.

You do not lunge and hope to hit, you press attack when you see the prompt.

[plucky junco]

there was a lot of feedback about werewalker in the old server... if you like, you can make on here as well, if there isn't one already

[plucky junco]

if it's the bell in the southeast, it doesn't do anything

as far as we know, at least 🥹

[distant jungle]

If in the SE, nothing happens yet. If in the SW, you have to wait for the boss to respawn.

[mellow sleet]

Ah

[shrewd gazelle]

yknow i kinda feel like i might be doing something wrong, but by any chance is there a way to speed up standing grind? im neutral with the kith of kings and each tale i do seems to increase my standing by a sliver of the bar

[left perch]

A promp that has a tiny window to appear because you have to be close, and both you, and the enemy are moving, thus you have to literally run up, stop, and shimmy like a crab to get the prompt

[mellow sleet]

Sadness time to go southwest ig

[plucky junco]

apart from hanging around in higher level areas, there isn't a whole lot, unfortunately

[distant jungle]

High level 3-star tales, in the far east, can give 500 rep per, so the grind can actually be done quite quickly.

[mellow sleet]

Or seemingly northwest

[shrewd gazelle]

dang...... it really does feel like something that could give just a lil bit more standing

[distant jungle]

It's also not meant to be done super fast, there's just not a lot of content to distract from it right now cus pre-alpha.

It's not a mission to knock out and get out of the way, it's a background system like syndicates.

Or so it's supposed to be.

So it's gonna be a bit grindy.

[grizzled depot]

tbf the grind can be done quickly... if you dont get stalked by Mada constantly

[distant jungle]

If you put your mind to it you can still go from 0 to max in a single day if you're playing while the daily reset happens.

At 500 per tale, that's 50 tales.

[mellow sleet]

Stalked?

[distant jungle]

Can be knocked out in a few hours.

[shrewd gazelle]

i will note that im not particularly well geared, still have default armor + am running the vasp-iv as my weapon. thought doing kith would give easier access to better gear. is that the right play? or is there a better place to grab stuff to prep first

[grizzled depot]

some people got Mada time and time again lol

[mellow sleet]

I must be lucky

[grizzled depot]

yeah 500 can be quickly if you get stag instead

[mellow sleet]

Is the fortress by Bracken brae also not like enterable

[grizzled depot]

you mean the towers? I have got inside some but they were empty, at least before 11

[compact cosmos]

crazy that people flake on boss shares with such a small community

[grizzled depot]

i tend to do mine solo so when people ask for shares i can just 🙁 and sadly not help cause i cant give back

[mellow sleet]

Do we think we'll ever see dragons in this game🤔

[grizzled depot]

i mean its fantasy, i dont think why not if we got fae also

[mellow sleet]

True true

[mental prairie]

if i rank up from 3-4 with a faction, can I pick the sacred shimmer as a rank up reward or do I need to buy it separately?

[grizzled depot]

afaik separately, and I recommend you go 5 for the pact there usually

[mental prairie]

is mora's hand worth it?

[grizzled depot]

pact leveling goes to account level so definitely, and the pact is quite fun itself

[mental prairie]

right, thanks for the help :)

[grizzled depot]

setting on flames everything just by looking at it and getting free hits is really nice

[grizzled depot]

now I wonder, Synod was fae afaik, what if there are evil fae beasts too, like say, a Cait Sith, and they boost an enemy or an area etc? like an influence over it

[left perch]

Does the Waste bear have poison cloud or something? Why do i die after I dodge the bround quake attack and not take damame?

[grizzled depot]

now I have noticed I have basically in a way kinda described Eximus <_<u

[grizzled depot]

I think the bear like the corrupted saplings have poison indeed

[mental prairie]

i think it does, yeah. i kinda brute forced that boss tbh

[left perch]

Man, and when it does the same attack 7 times in a row, is that just thew game telling me "tough luck" because i didn't have time to heal the poison (from an attack that didn't hit me) in time?

[mental prairie]

is it the ground slam?

[left perch]

yeah. I just dodged every single hit from it when it was in phase 2, where it has 2 heads, then my screen went pink, and I died before the dodge roll animation finished and I could get a change to heal

[mental prairie]

yeah

[left perch]

Alright, what do I do after that attack, when the bear seemingly puts poison over the entire map, and spawns claws that come out of the ground? You can't expect me to have all 5 health pots 75% of the way though the battle to tank it, especially with that poison from the previous attack needing 3 pots to not die from

Oh neat. If I press to heal, and then cancel it because the bear attacked too early, the game will just play the heal animation again after I dodge, without giving me the heal

[iron temple]

Wow I didn't realize how spicy that battle can become... 😅 (I guess must have had too much leverage for too long... 😅)

[grizzled depot]

I also was overleveled for it and I am surprised at how hard it can get

but I wont doubt if people are getting indeed quite stuck there (and then cant do faction)

[iron temple]

I'm usually long blade tempest, but I prolly orengall bowed that fight...

[grizzled depot]

yeah i went in with Orengall in and kept throwing sword at the heads

[mellow sleet]

Hold on you're cooking

[iron temple]

I could see how a tempest with gathannan could greatly reduce the urgency feeling of most boss battles, lol... 😅 I was impressed with how Bromius can stomp then root bosses and then 1 phase beat down with gathannan! 🤣

I use controller so I can't get the most out of bow because headshots are harder on controller...

but arrow rain cc, taunt dogs, and smite chance buff is super op anyways, lulz... 🤣

It would be interesting if enemy groups had more coordination and synergy... 😻

I feel awkward that melee opponents take their turn way too much... 😅

[edgy sigil]

a lot of people realizing that bromius is a gear filter

[iron temple]

marrow's bane is super op too...

[iron temple]

How exactly do you mean?

[iron temple]

oh you mean the boss yeah, at first I thought you meant the pact, lol...

[edgy sigil]

yeah the boss

[plucky junco]

having the fable active also locks you out of faction tales, which is a valid complaint, i think

[grizzled depot]

it absolutely is yeah

and that the quest autostarts isnt fair

[iron temple]

I certainly noticed my disadvantage at the beginning of the prelude when I was attacking world bosses while leveling bromius pact and the new weapons at the same time, so reckless of me, lulz... 🤣 Luckily Nimrod showed me that I need to fully optimize my loadout when I need to so my full world boss run wouldn't drag out insanely... 😅

[edgy sigil]

I just carried my 3rd newvoy through the bear fight today

[iron temple]

what loadout do you use when carrying peeps? 🤔 I usually use tempest for the invuln shield and my best melee so others are less of a target...

[edgy sigil]

full bromius armor, pact, weapon. full courage

still working on pumping stability with totems and runes but for the story quest it's overkill

i'm a bear so ofc I have to rep the bear

[iron temple]

I've noticed that in some tougher boss battles in this prelude orengall dogs can't get defeated suprisingly quick sometimes, especially from discharged nimrod... 🤣

[edgy sigil]

I'm still working towards tempest the second odiac frag also eludes me

[iron temple]

While tempest is more relaxing for boss fights, i've found that bromius 1 (add clear and nice big hit), 2 (root cc), then gathannan can cc the boss long enough to one phase them with gathannan...

[edgy sigil]

yeah I'm working on 2-slamming bosses with bear butt hehe

[iron temple]

That tactic is how I got revenge on dimrod for messing me up when I was trying to level gear, lol... 😅

Bromius helm is so fun and battle ready looking! 😄

[edgy sigil]

... I transmogged it to tempest lol

[grizzled depot]

wow you arent kidding with Marrow's Bone, I just tried it and the moveset is definitely way better than any regular sword

now this is a way different sword, i like it indeed

[iron temple]

the one downside is that I haven't been able to get a successful stab finisher with it...

[iron temple]

My helm transmogs are Tempest Visage (one of the ode tempest gear from when envoy was with the bad guys - basically the more fem-able looking one of the default envoy art), Bromius helm, and fire king helm! :D. for chest stuff I tend to pick stuff with a cape or a sash to look fancy! 😄

[fierce scaffold]

so when i change my faction am i no longer part of the previous faction? and do i loose progress on the previous faction?

[plucky junco]

you don't lose progress in the previous faction, but you won't be able to interact with them until you switch back

[fierce scaffold]

oh so once i got the amulet, i can just swap back and forth by talking to them?

[plucky junco]

there should be a one week cooldown for faction switching

[iron temple]

Nimrod and Bromius bosses sure promote their respective play styles, gear, and related pacts well, lol... 😅

[ancient narwhal]

Not sure if anyone reported this but when the host dies in a bossfight, you won't get any loot

[plucky junco]

i think it might have been brought up in the old server, but if it's not in this one, you can make a report about it in the bug-tracking channel if you'd like: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[civic needle]

when are we getting tree hopping?

[vagrant kayak]

As in fast travel to world trees? With P12 on the 25th

[fallow flume]

hello just find out about the game and trying to open it and play but it says that i dont have received an invitation, how can i receive one? do you buy one from the website bcs i cant find it somewhere

[plucky junco]

for now, if you've created an account, you'll have to wait for more invites to go out
they usually send out a batch of them on wednesdays, and you can also earn one from twitch drop if a stream is announced
and starting november 25, you'll be able to get access through founders packs if you're interested

[topaz drift]

Question where do you find crypts at

[fallow flume]

thanks ill keep an eye out for it

[plucky junco]

there should be three entrances on the east side of the map - if you've unlocked enough of the names, there's one near mirifuir, one near fort kearnhold and one near kearnhold castle

[lament hearth]

I have a question to faction farming. I get the quests now finaly again after I dealt with all three pact animals. Now I get some faction quests but they are in undiscovered areas with enemies that are lvl 25+ is this normal and should I be able to mange those with the starting gear + a meh weapon I got on the way? Or is it time to reforge and get some dmg bonuses this way? I went from running it down without any issues to enemys becoming road blocks more difficult then the bosses 😄 . Yeah I'm a tad bit older and there are some skillissues but I can't even backstab enemies anymore ^^.

[fair pier]

Yeah, if you're having issues start reforging.

[mellow python]

Faction quests spawn near you, and the area they spawn determines the level

Sticking close to the central area should result in easier tales

Tales with several stages or ones that take you through dungeons can easily drag you into higher level areas

[grave acorn]

what are key used for? and the arts mention diffrent arrow types? how to get them?

[plucky junco]

keys you pick up from enemies are supposed to be for nearby chests
if it's a crypt key, those are used to enter the crypt dungeons

there aren't different arrow types, so it might be that the descriptions are just flavour or for something that doesn't exist yet

[prisma helm]

Will the founder bundles include weapon/armour slots. Buying the paragon would include 9 armour equipments in itself.

[crystal cliff]

they didnt mention but as part of the FAQ video yesterday they did say they were looking at rebalancing how many slots you start with

plus it comes with tons of arcs to buy slots

[vagrant kayak]

Founder packs do come with Arcs which you can use to buy slots but I assume any weapons will come with their own slots the same way a Prime access works in Warframe

[crystal cliff]

also you dont need slots for armor just Pacts and Weapons

[vagrant kayak]

Armour does not need slots

[paper cargo]

Prime warframes come with their own slots, right?

[fair pier]

If you pay cash for em

[smoky crater]

if you craft them, no

[paper cargo]

Yeah, sorry, bought ones is what I meant

So I'm guessing paid pacts will also come with slots

[digital path]

The cool thing about faction quests right now is their level is based on the area you take them

[ivory salmon]

hey so i put the game on download i am no tester or anything just wanna try the game what does that agreement mean/

[vagrant kayak]

Just standard TOS stuff, don't say slurs, don't abuse other players or offer real money trades, don't exploit bugs, etc...

There is no longer any NDA so you can stream, share screenshots, whatever you like

[crystal tusk]

how do i get 4th ability like in the Undercity tutorial?

[smoky crater]

nowadays those would be Runes

at the moment you can get them from 3 different subbosses but more are getting added on the 25th

[crystal tusk]

I see. Thank you.

[lethal sail]

Is the Brewer of Hues quest broken? I've followed the rat to the broken idol but I can't do anything.

[edgy sigil]

go back to the tree, a big boss should block your way to the idol twice

[lethal sail]

The world tree or the tree where I started the quest?

[edgy sigil]

the tree where the quest starts

[sly escarp]

Honestly might be faster to just relog than rerun the dungeon, no?

[smoky crater]

#gameplay-discussion message
should help

[edgy sigil]

yess i was about to look for your post lmao

oh, it's just 20 lines above

[lethal sail]

That's exactly what I did the first time. Why didn't it work then?

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[edgy sigil]

cuz alpha

try relogging too

I also had that bug and I'm not sure which among relogging and going back to the previous quest area fixed the bug

[ivory salmon]

hey it says i dont have invite so i cant play what does that mean?

[edgy sigil]

it means if you want a sure way to play you can buy founders for $30 on Tuesday

[lethal sail]

Reloging didn't work for me, doing the quest over did, though.

[ivory salmon]

wait i thought its a free game how yall playing?

i can't play now?

[edgy sigil]

right now it's in a closed "testing" phase with access codes sent out every Wednesday or for those who watched the devstreams on twitch.

you can't ask for codes here but you can add your email to the code lottery for next week

[ivory salmon]

isee

thnxs ig

[bitter stone]

i hope this gets looked at cus that looks kinda silly lol (sword/sidearm placement)

[light dew]

damn nimrod, you okay?

[fierce coyote]

I hate nimrod

[edgy sigil]

he's doing his morning yoga let him be

why do you think he tells "the paaain" when fighting us

he's resting after a workout and Mada just rudely plops him to earth

[light dew]

hmmm

[vale tartan]

I found Avakot selling Moranite and Gossamer incase anyone is looking to buy

[light dew]

damn

i need it

Wippo if you can inv me

[plucky junco]

avakot should have the same stock and refresh times for everyone, so you can head to him in your own world if you need his stuff

[light dew]

oh

[errant helm]

hello, i just finished doing The Waste Bear fable with my friend.

he got his pact but I didn't. I also lost one of mine-- the Oscelda one.

I also still do not have the brewing lady in my nightfold...

[prisma cargo]

Do we know if the "hard mode" potion will increase xp gain from killing enemies?

[boreal dove]

we don't know but I would think so. Don't expect it to be monumental tho imo

[prisma helm]

I see thx man

[regal shadow]

you prolly didnt get the pact cuz you need the brewing lady to even start the quest, so likely your game doesnt have the quest marked as complete, i always advise people to do quests solo for this reason, they very often bug out for clients, as for how or why you lost oscelda, i have no idea besides you selling it at some point

[edgy sigil]

I don't think it's a bug?

Joining someone's party means that everyone loads in on the host's instance.

This locks party members to the host's quests so only the host gets quest progression.

[regal shadow]

doubt it's supposed to work that way if we can do quests in multiplayer tho

[unique crypt]

anyone else getting some major freezes in-game today? my game suddenly freezes for many seconds, and afterwards the game is all glitchy

[sly escarp]

Multiplayer quest progression is buggy, but it's likely not meant to flag the quest as complete for a player who hasn't even unlocked it yet

[knotty moon]

Did you try to Verify your files?

[smoky crater]

Uhhh... Tried verifying files from the launcher?

[smoky crater]

Awwwww

[unique crypt]

I have not. just booted up, did some world bosses and it started happening today

[smoky crater]

Wack

[unique crypt]

I'll quit and do a quick verification, thanks!

another, completely unrelated question; do we know if there is a cap on this currency? the animal charming one to upgrade magicks?

I haven't really started deep diving into this system yet and want to know if I need to start spending soon 😄

[normal sail]

im at like 600k so i haven't hit a cap yet

[unique crypt]

sweet

thanks!

[edgy sigil]

what is that icon supposed to represent anyway

some sort of white powder?

[smoky crater]

Well it's called Harmony but who knows

[edgy sigil]

do we grind them up

[normal sail]

spiritual dust/animal essence

[edgy sigil]

you know I'll take spiritual dust

[paper cargo]

Soul cocaine

[edgy sigil]

oooh I like that

[neon meadow]

Guys where can i find armored mockeries? I know they are in Birdie's Bog but where else?

im missing 1 tessard fragment

[sly escarp]

Don't need to be armoured to drop weapon fragments

And they can spawn at Crypt entrances and in the Glades

@neon meadow

[neon meadow]

nice

tnx

[devout jewel]

Hello! I'm a big fan of Warframe and very excited about Soulframe. Is it possible to get a key? I would love to test and share my feedback. Thank you very much!

[sly escarp]

Keys can be gained a few ways: Some are sent out to random folks who signed up on the website every Wednesday, and most livestreams by DE have access as a twitch drop.

[devout jewel]

Could you give it to me as a gift if you have the opportunity and the kindness allows?

[sly escarp]

Do not ask for codes here, it is not permitted per the rules. We have outlined the ways to get access to the game.

[devout jewel]

sorry

[sly escarp]

You're good, but please just don't ask for codes is all.

There's opportunities to get them if you're interested.

But we don't hand them out here, so asking won't do much good and just kinda fills up the chat.

[edgy sigil]

how increase stability

[sly escarp]

Armour and totems provide stability bonuses

[edgy sigil]

are anything less than gold border totems worth upgrading

[silk needle]

how to have key pls

[grave acorn]

How to level up vermina?

[edgy sigil]

make your faction dye

[grave acorn]

Thank ;3

[high goblet]

Is this game officially out ?

[knotty moon]

Yes, rarity is set per weapon, you never find anything but a gold beaver for sword for example.
Atm at least.

[edgy sigil]

ah thanks I thought there's a gold totem for all weapons

[knotty moon]

Alpha still.

[high goblet]

Ok ok

On which platform will it be out

[knotty moon]

Most likely the same ones as Warframe.

[high goblet]

Ohh Okk thanks 👍

[knotty moon]

Maybe not immediately after release though.

[high goblet]

Iam grinding on this alpha will it be saved?

[knotty moon]

No wipes are planed going forward, farm away.

[high goblet]

Umm

[knotty moon]

(though keep in mind that once in a while some systems get yanked out and/or replaced)

[high goblet]

Ohhh

[smoky crater]

except for mobile probably

[gleaming thunder]

I've been playing this game with my brother and we have noticed a consistent issue. Grass/Trees get disorted/glitchy in high winds for the person that is not hosting. The fix is to turn off volumetric wind and it solves the issue. However it kinda sucks turning that off because it is so pretty when it works.

Why does this only happen to the person joining the other person (the host is always fine) ? And is there a way to fix this?

Not sure if other people have had this same issue. We are both running RTX 3000 series GPUs

If this is the wrong channel i apologize. wasnt sure where to post

Not sure it qualifies as a bug so i didnt want to report it, because maybe it is just us experiencing this issue

[wispy cosmos]

does bromius get much better at high level? I'm like 12 with it right now and not impressed

[edgy sigil]

yes. rump thump can 2 shot bosses if built properly

[wispy cosmos]

Properly being courage? Or does it scale on armor?

[edgy sigil]

courage yep

[wispy cosmos]

hmm okay, my rump thump right now with 22 courage hits for less than a normal swing of my sword

[edgy sigil]

I'm sure you can do it with other pacts but speccing into courage and stability means I don't get knocked down while slapping enemies with my cleaver, and i get two cool cc abilities too

-# disclaimer i'm a bear so i have heavy bias towards it hehe

[wispy cosmos]

I do love the idea of bromius, I also really like bear themed stuff, just worried its an uphill battle

[edgy sigil]

the other emerging meta builds are ode tempest with odiac and Orengall with a bow

[wispy cosmos]

Ode tempest does feel pretty insane in general comparatively

but maybe i just stumbled into a good way to use it on accident

[edgy sigil]

the invuln skill is cracked

[turbid summit]

I've noticed this, but haven't messed with any settings to try and fix

[wispy cosmos]

when im tabbed out on another monitor my water graphics go nuts

[hasty storm]

Where is the best place to farm spider thread?

[edgy sigil]

spider hole

[hasty storm]

Neathuns?

[edgy sigil]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P11?loc=etheldred-the-weaver

[hasty storm]

Oh the boss area

[edgy sigil]

you can also spam neathuns

if this is for the mask I got 13 spider thread in one neathuns run

[elfin oak]

Is there a way to add "pin" custom locations on the map?

[knotty moon]

Right click, but only one at a time (per player), and they don't persist through death (or relog I guess).

[elfin oak]

Figured that was the case. I use waypoints often but would be nice to set a permanant pin.

[wispy cosmos]

anyone got a way to tell if a weapon does enough damage to hit a mob? Is there a formula?

[worn hawk]

Most games don’t let you but I would love to be able to put down a waypoint and give it a custom name, like if I found something cool but has no POI marker of its own.

[knotty moon]

If the enemy doesn't have a grey health bar (or an X instead of the level) you can bonk them no problem.
Otherwise try with heavy attack, or retreating to get better equipped.

[pearl orbit]

what is this thing?

i have the start of the Waste Bear quest which says to interact with this, but I can't

[vagrant kayak]

Do you have an item called Sap Tap in your inventory?

If not, go chat to Verminia in your Nightfold

[pearl orbit]

I did, she didn't give me anything

It just goes to the color customization menu

[smoky crater]

and you checked your inventory ye?
i don't think it pops up in any way when she gives it to you

[edgy sigil]

if you got verminia on the same game session you need to relog.

the game doesn't recognize she's in nightfold until you relog

[pearl orbit]

yeah i did that, it fixed it, thanks

[edgy quartz]

as host, can I go in nightfold during endless farm ?

[halcyon thicket]

If alone the waves will end

[ancient fox]

Ok so my discharged nimrod is charged how do I stop him from healing so much

[burnt brook]

There is a consumable item that you can make at Verminia

[smoky crater]

in multiplayer as long as one person is out of nightfold, you can yes

[edgy sigil]

discharge it again

make
https://wiki.avakot.org/Cloudquell

[grizzled depot]

what's the Rune drop chance? I have obtained every single weapon/armor fragment from all the world bosses and yet I am missing two of them, and I know they are independent from fragment drops, so are they THAT low?

or is it just a case of RNGod smiting me?

[plucky junco]

they're fairly rare, unfortunately

some people get them easily, and other people have fought the bosses dozens of times without any

[grizzled depot]

I guess the droprate with Koga will improve a lot

(then again Discharged Nimrod already tends to oneshot, so :_P I better craft some Cloud potions)

[timid crypt]

Where can I find my game email?

[plucky junco]

if you mean the in-game mailbox, there isn't one
it seems to be a bug so you can ignore that message for now

[whole owl]

specific drop chances are private to DE, and they very, very rarely disclose these.

[grizzled depot]

oh i didnt expect official data but player gathered one from wiki and such, but seems there's still not %s (I suppose cause they get tweaked constantly so hard to do that right now)

[whole owl]

Yup, if we had them, it would be in the wiki :) We're all waiting for DE to make a public export for Soulframe so we can all stop the crazy data gathering

[grizzled depot]

yeah patience will be the resource to be used for now haha I still got weapons to level so and test behavior so plenty of playtime left still

and if i dont get the runes pretty sure Koga will improve droprate

[whole owl]

Sure hope so, it took me quite a while to get mine back when they came out 😅

[unique crypt]

what does this symbol mean? it's on some weapons and pacts when viewing them at faction vendors and tuvalkane

[neat citrus]

it's a fragment

that's the fragment icon

[unique crypt]

but pacts don't have fragments, no? they just need the one and you can craft it

[grizzled depot]

yeah thats fragment dont buy the 5k coins one like me thinking it was some weird fast crafting option to test the new pacts

[unique crypt]

not sure what you mean

I maxed out the first faction I joined for Tempest, so I don't need to do that again, if that's what you mean

[neat citrus]

buy it and find out, I'm not sure if the starter Pacts have fragments or not

could probably also check the wiki

[plucky junco]

it might be confusing to call them fragments, but you do need to craft it after buying it

[neat citrus]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[grizzled depot]

on the weapon/pact expansion rack there are 5k coin options to buy the omen beast... fragments

[plucky junco]

yep, and you need "one fragment" to craft each of them

[grizzled depot]

and yet you get one for free doing the quests so lol

[unique crypt]

hmm, fair enough. I just don't remember seeing that on Tempest and the quest pacts that I've already crafted, but I guess I just missed it 😄

I'll buy it next time I play and see, thanks

[mystic slate]

[neon meadow]

@mystic slate i have a massive bug - i cant pick up any honey(i get locked soundeffect and offering symbol. This happened after some guy invited me to help him do Bromius quest but i disconected.

[smoky crater]

WOO

[mystic slate]

Please report this to Soulframe Support: https://support.soulframe.com/ with an F6 screenshot and your logs! You can get your logs in the launcher by going to the gear wheel in the top right and selecting "get logs" under diagnostics!

[prisma cargo]

[smoky crater]

thaaank you Saaaam

[edgy sigil]

[mystic slate]

avakots gots stocks are looking hot(s)

[edgy sigil]

stockakot

[brazen sparrow]

if you have the sap tap in your inventory, just restart your game client. you will be able to harvest the sap.

[neon meadow]

what is sap tap?

[brazen sparrow]

The emoji empire is growing ever bolder..

[edgy sigil]

sap tap tap

[brazen sparrow]

looks like this. it allows you to harvest sap.

[edgy sigil]

why is it uh

[sly escarp]

STONK

[neon meadow]

can i find this sap tap in inventory?

[smoky crater]

yeah

should be able to see it in your inventory under miscellaneous iirc if you have it

[neon meadow]

i dont have it wtf

[brazen sparrow]

do you have verminia in your nightfold?

[smoky crater]

try checkin just in the "Everything" tab maybe aswell

[neon meadow]

i finished my bromius quest, but when some dude ivnited me to help him , i got disconected and now i cant pick up honey

[neon meadow]

yes she is there

[smoky crater]

oh you've already done The Waste Bear?

[brazen sparrow]

strange sequence.. ..

[smoky crater]

very

[neon meadow]

i did bromius quest and it seems like guy who intvited me to do his, i got disconected and this happened

im guessing this is the case

maby it will come back to normal if someone of you guys who never did bromius quest inv me

[brazen sparrow]

restart the game regardless. it shouldn't leave you stranded.. but MP does cause wackiness

[neon meadow]

this buig is here like 4 days for me

if i exit game and login its still there

[brazen sparrow]

this may be unique then.. best report it with as much detail as you can

[undone minnow]

That's a support ticket if I've ever seen one

[brazen sparrow]

yeah, you're in some kind of limbo. maybe ask to be given a new sap tap in the support ticket too.

[neon meadow]

i asked Sam to help me with support ticket thing, never did one before

i cant craft new stuff because of this crap

[shrewd gazelle]

what all ways are there to get inventory slots for gear? aside from the premium currency stuff (as i would rather not touch that)

[smoky crater]

no other way

at this point in time or for quite some time probably still

[timid crypt]

Does anyone know how I can get into this Undercity?

[plucky junco]

the entrance should be a bit from the south i think

if you have the name unlocked, it'll be through "mines of borro"

[timid crypt]

Okay, so I have to go from the mines where I started the mission.

[brazen sparrow]

yes, and then enter the mines..

[plucky junco]

yep, the entrance to the dungeon should be at the back of those mines

[timid crypt]

ty

[ancient fox]

Ok so like i only have 2 parts for one flyblade where do they drop is it a boss or the circade dungeon or the bounty thing

[versed spoke]

I wanted to replay the Orengall quest, (I've finished it before) but it doesn't seem to progress past the first stage after you free Orengall. Am I forgetting something from the quest?

[empty ice]

Why do these 3 star alca bounties keep making my fight nimrod? I’m getting wrecked

[ancient fox]

I think you just hunt red balloons

[versed spoke]

it's easier if you craft Cloudquell potions, it stops Nimrod's lightning powers

[empty ice]

Don’t even know what that is. Ok.

[versed spoke]

I thought the only red balloon was the one where Orengall is captured? it's been a while

[ancient fox]

There's puppies

[versed spoke]

you get them from the Verminia, Brewer of Hues quest, the tutorial for the Nimrod fight and the way you get Soul Style (Fashion frame of Soulframe)

[empty ice]

Oh yeah speaking up Orengalls pups, I finished that yesterday. I chose a pup. I didn’t seem to get anything though. No pup in my camp. No new pact. Was something supposed to happen?

[plucky junco]

there's a part of that fable where it disappears from your journal and you have to wait for a while for it to progress, is that what you're up to by any chance?

[versed spoke]

Yeah

[versed spoke]

You're supposed to get the vision for Orengall's pact, as well as a Pup in your Nightfold. It may be a bug.

[ancient fox]

There should be a pup in the nightfold and idk if you have to craft the pact or anything but there is one

[empty ice]

No pup and no vision. Cool cool.

[charred bone]

been waiting 3.5 months and still havent gotten a code

[versed spoke]

Uh oh! try searching around. Sometimes the pup is around the Nightfold tent, but also it can lay around Orlick's station.

[empty ice]

I looked everywhere. No where to be found. A rabbit was in my tent though.

[plucky junco]

the founders packs starting on november 25 should be a guaranteed way to get access if you're interested
there have also been some twitch drops recently that gave away invites - they usually get announced in the news channel here: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1153116764633321534

[charred bone]

im tired of waiting lol been wanting to play for awhile now

[plucky junco]

there were a few twitch drops over the past few months where guaranteed access was given away, and the last one went for the whole weekend, so i'd keep an eye out for those if you're interested

[versed spoke]

just 5 days now, and you'll be able to purchase access through founders, as well as some codes for any other friends interested.

[charred bone]

cant buy them anywhere now?

[pale solar]

How? There’s been a giveaway like every week you just need 30 minutes watch time on an envoy hour stream lol

[halcyon thicket]

It is against TOS to sell keys

[pale solar]

If I was at my computer I’d just give you one I’ve been getting spares

[charred bone]

i work out of state non stop so im not able to watch a stream to get codes

[charred bone]

ahhh okay didnt know tht

[pale solar]

I had the stream muted on my phone for the first one I got a code, was at work lol

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah so buying from people is risky

Which is funny cuz keys are sold for cents

[charred bone]

i would do tht but i work usually 200ft in the air off a roof so i cant have my phone out lol

[versed spoke]

I may have a couple spare from when I got my access

[charred bone]

def lmk please!

[plucky junco]

the last twitch drop went for the whole weekend, so it's worth keeping an eye out if you can spare the time

[normal sail]

personally if I were DE, i would've done the twitch drop weekend this weekend, but im a measly person and they're a NaN dollar company, so they know what's best.

[versed spoke]

I def will

[charred bone]

appreciate it

[versed spoke]

I believe I do have a spare code

[charred bone]

if you could send it to me i would be highly appreciative

[versed spoke]

Welcome aboard, Envoy!

definitely recommend you watch SarahLovesArchery's soulframe videos

[empty ice]

If you still need a code message me. I have a few.

[dapper rain]

skilter from sinecure world bosses and i think 3* bannerett...reason to run all the way to gruul seeker perhaps? lol

Prekliues=🦄.. archers and assasins as far as i kno....got 1 from camp outsidfe of fallen skytoeer and one very low level town cant confim if off assasaion or archer or if all sinecure can drop... just know the corpses were presnent...

skilt only takes 2 i think and prek only 1?

[ancient fox]

Skilt takes like 4

[versed spoke]

I already gave them a code, just so you know

[grave acorn]

guys, whats the best way to farm spider thread?

[versed spoke]

play the Neath'uns dungeon instances. They're full of Weavers that drop Spider Thread.

[grave acorn]

i was afriad that was the answer, did a full run, got 3 🙁

dose the tile have an endless section like the glades?

[versed spoke]

not sure. The glades has an endless section?

[grave acorn]

yeah

i think the undercity has one as well but the glades is alot better in terms of xp

keep in mind this is from my time playing P7, tho i did see ppl hosting endless glades

[plucky junco]

the endless tile in the glades still works, the one in the undercity doesn't the last time i checked, and there isn't one for neath'uns

[grave acorn]

sadge 🙁

any tips on farming spider thread?

[plucky junco]

i haven't paid attention to them myself, sorry...
i just assumed they were dropping from the random spiders i was killing

[distant jungle]

The endless room in the undercity has been disabled for several preludes now I think.

[grave acorn]

did they ever say why?

[distant jungle]

Not sure, I only started in P10, not even early P10 as I got in via Tennocon like many others.

But even if it did exist, yeah, mockeries give stupid xp so it's vastly more time efficient.

And even then, just spamming high level faction tales isn't immensely slower, good bonus xp.

So I can't imagine an undercity endless with the xp Ode enemies give being worth enduring.

[plucky junco]

the undercity endless tile was used a bit for farming archers, but it was mostly just for fun

i don't know why it was removed 🥹

[grave acorn]

however dont the ode enemies drop lether patches?

i imagin it would be usefull for that

i stand corrected, acorind to the wiki it dosent but i could have sworn they did

[versed spoke]

Anyone know where to get the Regent's Set? I'm interested in getting that chest piece

[hasty storm]

Rose faction

[versed spoke]

weird, I have 3/4 fragments for the chest and I'm part of Alca's Children

[plucky junco]

if you started playing a while ago, you may have gotten some when they dropped from other sources

[versed spoke]

That's definitely it

I got in when Ode Tempest was still a pact given to Envoys when they joined

[civic needle]

so when i kill my king, i have to wait 3hrs for next fight, buttt i can also hop in with another person and fight theirs instead?

[plucky junco]

pretty much, yep

[hearty haven]

Is being in dungeons a bit, not really choppy or stuttery cause everything stays smooth, but it almost slows down every other second. I don't really have this issue in the overworld..

[plucky junco]

i think that's just a side-effect of the way the loading works
the same thing happens when loading into the open worlds in warframe, for example

[hearty haven]

Aight. I'll just sit for a bit then and see if it helps. I assumed it would be the same as waframes, but, wasn't expecting the loading hiccups to be in the dungeon side instead of the overworld for me.

[normal portal]

Does the Coupled Charge magic art mean the end of the 3 light hit combo on all 3 magic weapons or just the odiac?

[pearl hill]

Do contollers work in soulframe? My nintendo pro controller wont respond to this game

I cant play with keyboard properly rn because of an injury

[plucky junco]

i think most controllers should work, but i remember a couple people mentioning issues with nintendo ones

[normal sail]

you might have to change binds in the settings or use a program to bridge the 'incompatibility' between SF and your Switch Pro

[plucky junco]

it could also be some issue causing a conflict if you happen to have steam open, but i'm not sure

[pearl hill]

Okay I'll try it without steam

[normal sail]

steam does like to do funky stuff sometimes

[normal sail]

although I have steam open while playing, but i also use a xbone controller via USB

could even be a Bluetooth disparity since Nintendo loves their fences around their products

[pearl hill]

Still nothing after both suggestions, it is what it is

[normal sail]

might be able to use steam's controller settings per this

[versed spoke]

I've been there. Switch Controller won't work because it's only designed to support Xbox and PS4/5 controllers.

you can remap the inputs, but it won't really feel natural with the face buttons

[normal sail]

very true unless you match the binds to the face buttons and play a rotated and flipped Soulframe experience

[plucky junco]

soulframe does explicitly have this option, i think the issue is just getting the controller working

[normal sail]

huh that's weird

probably just a carryover in the engine

[final rock]

finally got around to playing P11, the arsenal ui change gave me a heart attack for a sec when it didnt show all of my equipment

[neon meadow]

i finally got my 3rd rune

[bright anvil]

Hi everyone. I finally begun playing but as I'm seeing there is not a lot of tutorial about stuff. What you recommend I do once intro ends?

[mellow drum]

Idk what it is, but I finally managed to rage quit Soulframe for a bit earlier. Kept getting the stag as final task for 3-star tales, and though I don't think I'm underleveled or geared (stuff is still being leveled, sitting in the upper-20s for the most part, no runes but all totem slots occupied), I kept getting absolutely wrecked by that dang stag. It keeps running off and fighting literally everything around Stroaic where it spawned, leaving me to chase it down, try to kill the "adds", then subsequently get flattened when it charged one of us.

I don't think this is a bad thing necessarily, because I'm usually quite patient, but dang if that spawn behavior in the wastes isn't annoying af.

[ancient narwhal]

wish we could change color of the pact

[surreal trellis]

Congrats I can't even get one to drop from any of the world bosses. But loving the game

[versed spoke]

I am yet to get my first

[ancient narwhal]

Do i need to use cloudqueller to get rune drop from nimrod?

[plucky junco]

that shouldn't affect it, i don't think

[civic tangle]

hello everyone, i kept reading people say that Marrow's Bane is the best longsword in the game currently. i decided to gather frame data to calculate the attack speed between Dewelion (the usual longsword moveset) vs. Marrow's Bane (cleave moveset).

i would like to preface this, i am not that smart of an individual, so someone 100% could fact check me (in fact i'd appreciate it), but without further ado, i would like to present my SoulFrameData:

dewelion
a1: 27 (0.45s)
a2: 49 (0.81s)
a3: 30 (0.5s)
a4: 45 (0.75s)
t: 151 (2.51s)

theoretical attack speed:
1 (time) divided by 2.51s (total combo attack time) = 0.39 x 4 (amount of attacks in combo) = 1.59

marrow's bane
a1: 34 (0.56s)
a2: 48 (0.8s)
a3: 64 (1.06s)
a4: 44 (0.73s)
t: 190 (3.15s)

theoretical attack speed:
1 (time) divided by 3.15s (total combo attack time) = 0.31 x 4 (amount of attacks in combo) = 1.26

[ancient narwhal]

cloudqueller only disables his healing right?

[versed spoke]

in the future we may be able to, but it hasn't been confirmed.

[versed spoke]

disables his voltaic powers

[versed spoke]

I should farm marrow's bane

[ancient narwhal]

been farming kabocha and all i get is duplicates husk

[civic tangle]

so, next time you think about Marrow's Bane vs. Dewelion, they are side-grades with Dewelion leaning towards speed & smite chance (literally 1% chance though lol) and Marrow's Bane leaning to slower higher damage per hit, however Dewelion does have higher DPS
Marrow's Bane: 118 x 1.26 = 148.32
Dewelion: 107 x 1.59 = 170.13
-# edit: i used their base values, not their attune-capped values, but typed the attune-capped values

Marrow's Bane most likely feels better in AoE, especially with rat splash damage, while Dewelion will make quicker work of bosses

[ancient narwhal]

any difference between igne mora, dewelion, marrow bane in terms of performance?

if dewelion is faster, marrow hits harder, where does igne mora stand

[distant jungle]

Igne Mora and Dewelion are largely identical, Dewelion is not faster. Marrow's outperforms both substantially.

[civic tangle]

the same, as it uses the standard longsword moveset and no attack speed stat exists for weapons themselves

all weapons that use the same moveset will have the same attack speed

[distant jungle]

And Dewelion's special heavy is not noticeably better in any way compared to the regular one.

[civic tangle]

also, apparently cleaver heavies are extremely fast

[distant jungle]

If it has a reach advantage it isn't substantial, as most of your range is in the lunge anyway.

[civic tangle]

Marrow's Bane outperforms longswords in general when spamming heavy attacks, while Dewelion excels with light attacks

[distant jungle]

I think Marrow's Bane outperforms other Long Blades in general, light or heavy. It just has higher DPS.

[ancient narwhal]

i see sounds igne mora is fodder for now

[distant jungle]

It does more damage without being slow enough to even that out.

[civic tangle]

i just posted that it has lower DPS during light attacks

[ancient narwhal]

i thought it has burn element tho

[civic tangle]

i'm curious what marrow's bane heavy DPS is now, i'm gonna go check but it seems to be roughly 0.9 APS?

[distant jungle]

Attacks per second don't really mean Dewelion has higher DPS, you'd need much more substantial testing. Weapons with higher base are disproportionately stronger right now as armor is flat reduction, meaning higher base is affected proportionately less by enemy armor, especially at higher levels.

Marrow's Bane may be slower but it simply hits harder.

Substantially so.

[normal sail]

plus sprinkle a little squirrel in the attack slot for extra attack speed

[distant jungle]

And this is especially true when you take mixing light and heavy into account, cus playing exclusively with light attacks just isn't a good way to play.

[civic tangle]

marrow's bane heavy:
h1: 69
h2: 75
t: 144 (2.4s)
1 / 2.4 = 0.416 x 2 = 0.83

[distant jungle]

Marrow's Bane will, in general, outperform Dewelion in pretty much every way.

[civic tangle]

264 (base heavy) x 0.83 = 219.12

[distant jungle]

Same as Gathannan outperforming pretty much anything because it has the highest base.

[civic tangle]

welcome back galatine

[distant jungle]

Not including throw shenanigans, which make the sidearm short blades the strongest weapons in the game.

Or magick weapons with feybalt which use the attack speed passive to climb damage incredibly quickly.

[civic tangle]

it closes the gap between the two, but nothing in the game at the moment really has enough armor to matter

imo, dewelion has its benefit being faster, snappier, as well as more fit for smite spam
marrow's bane overpowers its light attack spam with nasty heavy attack DPS, meaning it has crazy potential with rats splashing 90% of its ridiculous heavy damage onto someone else

[gleaming thunder]

what should we check if my friend is able to consistently join my game, but i get failed to join game everytime i try to join his?

[civic tangle]

marrow's bane, compared to dewelion, can very realistically get a 2-3 hit kill for 2-target AoE versus dewelion, which lacks a bit of damage and will need 3+

however at the end of the day, i am firm in my opinion of them being sidegrades

one is fast and fit for smite spam, which can be used as a support to enable a marrow's bane dps, and the other is the heavy attack monster

[distant jungle]

Dewelion is almost a sidegrade to Igne Mora, and both fall behind Marrow's Bane. The slight difference in attack speed doesn't provide a substantial benefit to smite spam because of how generally common they are. Both can achieve smite spam incredibly easily.

DPS across the board will be higher with Marrow's.

[civic tangle]

the dewelion is not a sidegrade to igne mora when igne mora has identical stats except for its smite chance, which is abysmally low at 1% baseline

it's not quite a sidegrade when it's strictly better with no differences

[distant jungle]

The difference between them in practice is I think 5% vs 8%? Which is why I said almost.

Because that difference is small enough that, after totems, it doesn't really matter.

Cus it's a no-brainer to use squirrel in utility.

[civic tangle]

so, with your philosophy, the igne mora and dewelion are "almost a sidegrade" due to having the same stats minus smite, which is slightly worse, but marrow's bane is strictly better than the dewelion due to... being entirely different, but in the same tier of power

[distant jungle]

It's not in the same tier of power though, its DPS is just higher, substantially.

[civic tangle]

it quite literally is, as nothing mitigates damage enough for it to matter. it doesn't matter if it would be "niche" for dewelion to be a smite weapon, it still exists as that.

[distant jungle]

It not ultimately mattering because the game isn't hard enough for it to doesn't mean they are sidegrades, one is still strictly better in a noticeable way.

The fact that Marrow's has substantially higher damage is much more noticeable than getting the occasional extra smite every few minutes.

[civic tangle]

if anything, i think that cleaver heavy attacks are an outlier

these things are faster than the normal longsword heavy attack

[civic tangle]

smite spam should be using orengall

orengall can multiply your smite chance by over 3x, with mine giving about 3.3x? which 1% is enough to consider

i'm pretty sure my total smite chance is in the 40s, which when people have Sympathy, means i'm just printing peoples runes and healing them constantly in combat

[distant jungle]

The main thing Orengall does tbh is the doubling Courage, which will absolutely roid out any weapon with good throws. That already kills so fast that smite is almost an afterthought when enemies tend to go down in one hit each anyway.

[civic tangle]

-# now i just wish that some enemies weren't just randomly smite immune :v

[distant jungle]

Knife and polearm throws are insane when you have 70+ Courage.

[civic tangle]

there is an attune cap, courage does nothing beyond an extent

unless there is some hidden mechanic about throws i don't know about

[distant jungle]

The attune cap for throws is substantially higher than base cap, enough that none of them can be reached right now.

They still go up linearly.

Same for charged shots from a bow.

[civic tangle]

this does make me wonder if orengall howl calculates before courage double, or after. if it's after, that's disgustingly strong

[edgy sigil]

does this mean theres a higher rarity beaver i havent gotten yet?

[plucky junco]

i think that's just a bug

[civic tangle]

either i got a very big lucky streak or it does

i got like, 3 smites back to back

and another after one non-smite hit

[edgy sigil]

cuz i wouldnt wanna spend harmony on a brown border totem upgrade if a gold one exists out there

[civic tangle]

that is just a bug because only one totem exists per weapon type

[plucky junco]

there should be only one animal per weapon

[edgy sigil]

ah, thanks so i should just upgrade away

[civic tangle]

for example a common beaver for longsword will always be a common beaver for longsword

but another weapon could have an uncommon or rare beaver, and will always need to come from an uncommon or rare beaver

[edgy sigil]

yeah the rarities made me think theres three totem tiers for each weapon

[civic tangle]

yeah it is a little confusing, but its more like the animals have a rarity, and each rarity has its own totem drop table

rather than it just being "get better totem", the rarity only comes from that rarity of animal

[edgy sigil]

ah thx

[civic tangle]

(though, the rarity does seem to slightly affect the effect of totems)

so while you can't get a rare totem on X weapon, for the rare totem that does exist on the other weapons, does have better stats

[edgy sigil]

but we cant rlly do anything about it cuz we only have one rarity per weapon type

gotcha thx

[hardy timber]

What part of the map do I get Stag spawns?

[edgy sigil]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P11?loc=vadagar-stag

[distant jungle]

The totem rarities do affect how strong they are, and are a way of balancing them for each weapon. The only category with gold deer, for example, is polearm, as they have high stagger already and are thus proportionately affected less by it.

[edgy sigil]

scroll through

[edgy sigil]

kinda like a little more confusing version of riven dispo

[civic tangle]

basically, yes

[distant jungle]

I'm still iffy about the 'at night' thing cus I've fought several during the day from random goop puddles.

I specifically checked the map on the most recent one because I was told it's night-only, and it was 11 till.

[edgy sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4237793

[civic tangle]

i feel like its like

i don't know, it flags itself as "spawned" during night and regardless of where you go, how long it's been, it's eligible to be spawned because of that flag

it's really weird

[plucky junco]

i feel like it's something like that too, and since the it's possible for it to spawn during the day for faction tales, that might make things complicated too

[civic tangle]

so anyways im probably going to suggest making attacks per second visible for future balancing

i do feel like at some point attack speed should be messed with to further separate weapons, it's very identical with it being only smite chance and damage

(especially when that smite chance is like, 1%)

[native wind]

is vetch pretty much just better wulder? same move set and arts but better scaling?

[civic tangle]

yeah

[bright anvil]

8 hours so far and I have no clue what I do

[edgy sigil]

first of all, unlock the entire map

[civic tangle]

Wulder is the only Common longsword, beyond that you have quite a few Uncommon longswords that are fairly equal in power

the strongest swords are Dewelion and Marrow's Bane, which are Rare

[bright anvil]

Okay. Going to trees it is

[civic tangle]

almost every weapon in the game is like this, where you have your Common starters, some middle-ground Uncommons, then the Rare weapons that are the best-in-class

[worn hawk]

Very useful https://wiki.avakot.org/

[civic tangle]

the only exclusion iiiiss... shields, short blades (primary), short blades (secondary) and fly knives, i blieve?

[bright anvil]

Omg thank you

[edgy sigil]

thats probably like a good hour or hour and a half. then do t3s. post in recruiting on the third stage and people will join you.

then, go to tuvalkane and look at frags for weps youd like to craft. start farming for those

[civic tangle]

magick and bow are included in this apparently, huh

[bright anvil]

I think I get it

[ancient narwhal]

where do u get odiac?

[civic tangle]

nimrod and war casters

should be self-explanatory, but they're the guys in white that cast magic at you

[ancient narwhal]

i see, no chance for them at bounties?

[edgy sigil]

nimrod is a t3 bounty boss

[twin harness]

any specific place to farm the magic staffs and sidearms?

[civic tangle]

unfortunately not from the bounty itself, but nimrod can spawn as a bounty boss

[civic tangle]

you can get the Odiac from Nimrod and War Casters, and the Erstroot from Wraith of Wastes, and there is a starter staff from Alca's Children (faction)

[twin harness]

how to find those guys?

[civic tangle]

Sidearms are kind of all over the place, with 3 of them coming from 2 of the sub-bosses in the overworld, one of them dropping just about anywhere, one dropping from specifically Hunters in the Glades, and one dropping from Ode Chests

[civic tangle]

you can find sub-bosses (their official name is Agari, by the way) here

trying to shake my own habit of calling them sub-bosses still, sorry :p

[twin harness]

they just show up at those spots? no need to wait for them or something?

[civic tangle]

yep! you can kill them once every 3 hours

they can be pretty dangerous, though

some of them also may be missing if you haven't completed some quests

[ancient narwhal]

does the stultin have the same moveset as marrow bane?

[civic tangle]

yeh, it's a cleaver

[ancient narwhal]

nice

[civic tangle]

Stultin and Marrow's Bane are cleavers, the Nurash has a completely unique moveset

which is unfortunate that it's uncommon and thus weaker as a result, it's a neat moveset

[distant jungle]

I still kept it around cus its moveset is freaking great. Best lunge in the game by far.

[civic tangle]

it's so fun it makes me sad

[distant jungle]

Its attacks are also very evenly spaced without any odd pauses like regular Long Blades.

[civic tangle]

hope some weapon reuses it someday

[distant jungle]

So it's an incredibly consistent weapon.

[civic tangle]

-# maaaybe we can learn stances from weapons and use them on others? please, de?

[distant jungle]

I slapped a beaver in attack and it's been working fine whenever I pull it out.

I just treat it as my speedy long blade option.

When I want something easy to use that is also a lunge demon.

It's Light 1 lunges farther than the Long Blade's sprint attack.

[sturdy ferry]

that first line kinda threw me cause I was blanking on the context.

[distant jungle]

Lmao.

But yeah, I'm also a nerd for forward-curving blades like the Falcata.

A design so majestically effective that it was invented three separate times.

In three separate time periods by three unrelated cultures.

Nurash even has a false edge cut for its Light 3, which you just don't see in games.

It's a very common sword technique but it just isn't flashy and weighty.

[civic tangle]

i am very interested to see how weapon families develop over time

like... will dual-wielded weapons be restricted to short blades? or will we eventually get dual-wielded long blades?

are greataxes included in polearms? are shields only sword and shield, or could we get flail and shield?

[distant jungle]

Eugh, one-handed flails, that trope.

I want to see a proper two-handed combat flail if anything.

[sturdy ferry]

thats a pole arm

[civic tangle]

i guess we'll get an answer to that kinda with greatswords, if they end up falling under long blades

[distant jungle]

Yes, flails actually used in combat were polearms.

[civic tangle]

throw the shield and it switches moveset!

i believe current shields do that, but they just revert to longsword moveset

[distant jungle]

An even spammier Long Blade, as they only get the first two lights.

No heavy though, given that recalls the shield.

[civic tangle]

would be funny if we got a mace and shield, and the thrown shield sticks in enemies and the mace hits it like a gong to cause extra stagger

more weird funky unique gimmicks like that would be fun

[ancient narwhal]

gauntlets tho

fits well with bromius

[iron thistle]

I havent played this game in a long while, anything new worth coming back to?

[civic tangle]

depends on when "a long while" was, but there is a lot of content now, and more coming on the 25th

as well as steve saying there will be no resets, so no worries if you were scared of that :p

[iron thistle]

last time I played was in july

[ancient narwhal]

i might be mistaken but did they update the run animation? i remember it was stiffer on prelude 5

[civic tangle]

so you most likely played preludes 10

The motes system has been reworked into runes and totems, and there are now overworld sub bosses to fight

There is also a new quest and pact

[dire leaf]

What does oregano pact give ?

Orengall*^

[plucky junco]

it has a scouting ability, a buffing ability and it can summon wolves :D

[distant jungle]

No, henceforth Orengall is now Oregano.

[sturdy ferry]

this isnt the thyme!

[edgy sigil]

how do i know when to transform back as orengall

[plucky junco]

you'll have to guess or time it currently

there's a lot of feedback about getting an indicator of some kind

[half plinth]

I agree, I think this is s-parsley the time for jokes

[shrewd gazelle]

trying to sell a weapon that is maxed out + i dont want at the weapon rack in the nightfold, it says i cannot sell it at this time. would i have to find avakot to get rid of it or is it glued to my inventory for the time being
i do not have it equipped, so i cant see that being the issue

[half plinth]

Speaking of inventory, would you guys say its wise to spend arcs expanding it, or should i wait it out?(*´-`)

[plucky junco]

i'm not sure if it'll make a difference if you try with avakot, but you can give it a shot
it sounds like a bug though...

[edgy sigil]

buying wep/pact slots is the wisest way to use your free arcs

[shrewd gazelle]

i will try to toss it at avakot next time i find them, just to make sure
either way i'll probably toss something into bug tracker, but i wanna see if both shops are broken first

[half plinth]

I see I see, and are they farmable in any way currently, and if not, what would you guys say is the wisest way to spend them?

I mean, yeah in slots, but how many of each and what not

[edgy sigil]

until tuesday we cant get premium currency

you get bromius + orengall + garen rood pacts from story mission, buy as much slots as you feel you want to use

[half plinth]

I see, I see, thanks :D

[versed spoke]

Bromius scales off of Physical Armor, right?

[plucky junco]

not the pact itself, but i think rump thump scales with all armour stats

don't quote me on that though

[distant jungle]

Rump Thump scales off of armor, as it says.

Armor being all armor, not just physical.

Like how the beaver totems strips all armor, otherwise it'd be worthless for magick weapons.

When it says armor, it just means armor.

[versed spoke]

great, good to know

[unique crypt]

yeah, get that number as high as you can! one shotting a group of 10 enemies with your butt is incredible satisfying. if only Song of Growth could be casted while moving (or didn't take 3-4 business days to cast)....

[edgy sigil]

best bow pact?

[unique crypt]

Sirin and Orengall, I would say. Sirin is great with the CC it has, and with Orengall you can buff your smite chance a lot which works very well with the new bow rune

[rigid cape]

I was trying to make a seemly too big of a jump, and I decided to mess a bit with the nightfold teleport.

I'm not sure if this is a thing yet, but if not maybe id call it a Night Jump, a bit of research is still required, but there are some funny interactions to be discovered here.

And I discovered (was told) theres a puzzle to get up there, hahahaha got it right away after the hint.

[edgy sigil]

full courage?

[unique crypt]

for Sirin I go full grace because the bow I use scales with that

Orengall I go full courage and I use blitzell instead

[versed spoke]

best armor set to get up to that?

[unique crypt]

I use the mendicant king set, but I think the new bromius set has the most armour. not sure though

[versed spoke]

alrighty then

i only have 1 piece of mendicant but i'll try to farm out the rest of the set

[unique crypt]

do it! luckily Bromius makes boss killing pretty trivial, so I make it a daily thing to go through all the world bosses at least once

[rough island]

Hello everyone, I love the game and I found some bugs (visual), where can I report them ?

[plucky junco]

there's a bug reporting channel here: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

i'd just try to see if there's an existing thread first in case

[rough island]

Oh yes it was right there sorry for the bad question lol

[distant jungle]

It's Mendicant, Orengall, or Mockery. Bromius's set is almost up there but chest is a few points behind for some reason.