gameplay-discussion

[hidden gale]

I think having the armor on a boss to fight is a great incentive to hunt him, it's just that I'm not very strong right now and I usually can only manage 1 hunt a night.

Maxed Out Sirin and Thistle with a +20% and life steal on the bow, all points put into grace to scale for the grace damage on the bow, and precklies as a sidearm with +20% and life steal

[quiet mason]

it wont let me sell nettle oof

[halcyon thicket]

you can't, if it's your only sidearm

i just noticed that the wyld pacts shown were tier 1

shouldnt they be higher

[sinful carbon]

Is it possible for me to get a key for my friend?

[golden lily]

still havent gotten a tessard fragment, thats from the Imp correct??? also, Marrows bane im guessing is rare from Kabocha??

[halcyon thicket]

the boss doesnt drop weapon fragments anymore

it's just armored/regular mockeries now

[golden lily]

oh? like I have to get them from running glades or undercity or something?

[halcyon thicket]

i'd suggest cemeteries in overworld

[halcyon thicket]

yes, keep checking for next stream, or you can earn codes by getting founders pack in november 25th

[thin hazel]

Please don't ask for codes in this discord. The best way is to wait for a future stream hosted by DE. With a linked Twitch account to your Soulframe account, you can get a code after watching the stream.
Also, if they are signed up to receive a key, they send out new batches of keys every Wednesday! So keep an eye out for the email, there's a chance they get the key that way!

[thin hazel]

oh, I didn't really know they can get a code from getting founders, but that does make the most sense!

[sinful carbon]

I wasn't asking someone to give it I already have 1, I just wanted to know if there are any other ways cuz he keeps forgetting to watch and I'm always busy with work

[thin hazel]

ah all good! Sorry about that!

[ember plume]

how the hell do I avoid the waste bears stagger thing

like I literally have it frozen why is it staggering me

[halcyon thicket]

finish it

[thin hazel]

it probably needs more pinpoint accurate roll dodging to avoid, and I am guessing whatever you're using to freeze them, DE didn't account for, so the effect still happens.

[ember plume]

the poison thing it does is so annoying too

the quest is so beautiful holy

[thin hazel]

finish it?

[dusty hatch]

Everytime I come back to this game the combat is completely overhauled and feels terrible getting used to.

[hot sedge]

Howdy

[whole owl]

Damn, that's a take 👀
Could you pinpoint why?

[unique crypt]

is there a way to cancel craftng a weapon? I accidentally started crafting one I already own, so that would be a waste of materials :/

[sly escarp]

It unfortunately is a pre alpha, so combat changes come with the territory, but if you can identify what you don't like about combat you can leave some feedback in #1438224662344761345

[brazen sparrow]

Unfortunately not. You'll have to wait it out.

I had a feedback thread about it on the other discord.

[sly escarp]

Speaking of cancelling a craft...wanna copy that thread over Fried?

[brazen sparrow]

yeah, lemme do that

[raven drum]

how to get the children standing ?

[sly escarp]

To get Children standing you have to do faction tales. Wander around the world and symbols with stars should appear, go to one to find an npc you starts a faction tale for you.

[raven drum]

but i am getting very low standing

is that the only way ?

[sly escarp]

The amount you get is based on the number of stars

[brazen sparrow]

#1440362443380490300 message

[sly escarp]

1 star is the lowest but fastest to run, 3 star the most but slowest. But 3 stars also have bosses at the end you may not be ready to face yet.

But tales are the only way to get faction rep.

[fossil dragon]

Should I buy material from Avakot every chance i get?

[paper cargo]

Depends a little on how strapped for Dracs you are, but I generally buy up all the rare materials. The common ones I only buy if I'm not above 200 pieces for them

[halcyon thicket]

Do u guys think wyld pacts should be tier 2+

[half talon]

Nah save your dracs from that scammer! Farmer life is free life.

[unique crypt]

I definitely buy from him

gossamer and sappheline

can never have enough of those

[dusky tangle]

Scrap steel and the 3 rare items (moranite, sappheline, and gossamer quartz) are my must-buys

[dusty hatch]

I mean, fair enough. BUt it's not just me, the combat did get way more difficult? The previously OP bow is now useless with tickling damage while enemy archers constantly fire without missing? Dodges are way harder to do, you just die way more often and feel weak compared to 2 months before?

[dusky tangle]

Engaging higher level enemies has been made much harder. You need to use runes/totems/joineries to level the playing field there or else the high armor will dramatically reduce your effectiveness.

[dusty hatch]

Ok, I'll see if I get used to it. There really is too much fighting in this game to have tedious encounters work well with the flow I feel like. Its not treally suited to soulslike gameplay imo, even if it constantly gets sold as such.

[unique crypt]

I have also felt very weak since I started playing again a couple of days ago. getting used to the new, very confusing armour system is frustrating, and even more so when I watch videos of people two shotting Nimrod while I die 5 times before finally getting him down

[lime gust]

I cheesed Nimrod

[unique crypt]

but yeah, just a matter of getting used to it all and building strong pacts and weapons

[lime gust]

You can climb on the roof , he'll jump to get you there then get stuck , spam sword throw at him

[unique crypt]

I'm mostly upset that it still takes so. dang. long. to level stuff

[turbid summit]

yeah, progression feels really slow

[unique crypt]

I got Bromius yesterday and I just want to get it to 30 so I can actually start doing fun stuff, but it's so slow

in warframe I can jump into one mission and get a frame max level in minutes. granted there you do it many times with forma etc, but the contrast is stark

[ionic widget]

Running endless for leveling helps. I acquired all the weapons I could, and then leveled in endless Glades until I was done.

[paper cargo]

Imo, WF leveling is too fast anyways, but I might just be a masochist

[ionic widget]

Well WF has forma and other ways to keep releveling, so I think it being faster is fine.

[kind sapphire]

You just need to find the right enemies. Mockaries give an insane amount of exp each kill

[unique crypt]

which ones are mockaries?

[sly escarp]

DE has stated a few times they're not making a soulslike

[vestal crystal]

they don't have to reduce it to warframes level i like that it is slower but i agree it could be a little bit faster but other then that i like the slower pace

[sly escarp]

So if it's being sold to you as a soulslike those people are not up to date on what DE's stated their vision is.

[kind sapphire]

The ones where when you down them, their souls come out, and you need to absorb it to kill them

[unique crypt]

ahh yes

good to know!

[kind sapphire]

Each kill gives like 1.2k exp at the minimum lol it’s way better to farm those

[fluid stirrup]

why cant I pet the wolf every time tho? where does it go

poor thing. poor me.

[regal shadow]

pup moves around nightfold, usually if not in tent can be found at the smith or the scribe

[glacial silo]

I have some good stuff in the works, just gotta find the recipe pieces for Tuvalkane's self confidence and ill be set

[half talon]

Igne Mora is wonderful. Not the best blade but one I particularly enjoy using.

[glacial silo]

i am hype for it, tho the one im most hype for is Dewelion

[half talon]

Dewelion is also a really nice blade.

I’ve been using more sword and board lately and the knockback on it is incredible.

[glacial silo]

nice, lately been grinding away at Odiac, its real fun to just hurl lightningbolts everywhere

[thin hazel]

Marrow's Bane also a fun one, though its reach is a little lacking. Gathannan is a fun polearm if you use 2 totems with attack speed

[glacial silo]

just gotta get the fire king faction to 5, get the pact so i can switch to one of the others and get the pacts there too

[half talon]

Gathannan…was the bane of my existence for a time. But now that I have it, I proceed to use other weapons. I will return to it one day though.

[vestal crystal]

i am still sad it got demoted to two stars 😔 my beautiful blade of fire, reduced to ashes... (to two stars)

[half talon]

Yeah…everything is subject to change unfortunately. But maybe it’ll make a comeback in glorious fashion.

[keen sable]

which sword and sheild you use

i liked oryn mostly cause the smite chance is so much better and the difference in damage is so small

[half talon]

I’ve been using bog & myrtle personally but I also don’t min-max my builds. I just kinda vibe with whatever.

[keen sable]

i def like the look of bog and myrtle more than oryn for sure.

[ripe token]

I thought the word "soul" frame meant dark souls like

[half talon]

A lot of people made that assumption. Easy enough to make in this day and age.

[sly escarp]

Nope! Just a reference to the spirtual focus of the game in relation to nature

[paper cargo]

DE even stated the name is not an accident. There are definitely soulslike influences in the game, but it's not a soulslike

[ripe token]

So this isnt an elden ring like game? Even though it really feels like it to me

[paper cargo]

The combat has similarities and the setting is dark fantasy-adjacent, but the gameplay loop is not like a soulslike at all

[ripe token]

The exploration and the ability to do whatever you want and to explore the open world map is an elden ring memory for me that I really enjoyed

[paper cargo]

Oh, that's definitely there as well. Sorry, that wasn't was I was thinking of with soulslike

[edgy sigil]

yo why does gwylen and erstroot have the same level 1 stats I thought the 2 stars would have better stats?

[ripe token]

My first souls like game was Elden Ring

[paper cargo]

Makes sense! Freedom to choose where to go is definitely an important part of soulslikes anyways, even if they are more restricted in potential paths like the DS trilogy

[sly escarp]

The 2 star does have better stats, it sclaes better with Spirit

[sly escarp]

It's more like the witcher in a lot of ways

[vestal crystal]

where do you get the tempest leathers fragments again?

[sly escarp]

Faction tales

[vestal crystal]

like at the end of it? at all stars?

[edgy sigil]

ah, the scaling is the difference thanks, I was looking at base stats

[sly escarp]

Not totally sure on that, believe I may have received a frag from a faction tale chest objective, but the Avakot wiki should have info

[vestal crystal]

ah I'll check thx

wait only alca's children tales have the drops?

[ripe token]

So how big is the open world? Will i ever find the edge?

[vestal crystal]

the other tales just have vetch and blitzel as a reward 💀

[sly escarp]

You already likely have

The shores of the island

[vestal crystal]

it's an island so...

[ripe token]

Nope. Haven't seen shores yet.

Im fairly new to the game so

[paper cargo]

It's not a very large map atm, but afaik it's essentially just the first zone

[vestal crystal]

it is pretty big but most of it is a bit empty but it will be populated more and more each update!

[shadow flicker]

Hey guys. I'd heard you can get the other starter weapons from t1 and 2 sparrow tales near the starting area but I've done a tonne of them now and not seen even a fragment. (Started Tethren so looking for Gwylen and Thistle). Is this bugged currently or just a reaaaally low drop rate?

[sly escarp]

They moved them to the shops for their respective factions

The info you have is outdated

[shadow flicker]

Interesting. It doesn't seem to be in the patch notes at all. Was it confirmed intended to remove them from the tales?

[sly escarp]

Not anywhere in the patch notes, shadow change

You can log a bug report on it if you like, but for a while they were completely non-obtainable outside of the tutorial quest if you didn't start with it

Then they were added to the shops

[shadow flicker]

Yeah, I started before they were available during the quest and I've picked back up after they vanish from tales hah
Thanks for the info. Appreciate it

[wheat ridge]

question

i can adopt a wolf now

does it matter which one or pure cosmetic?

[sly escarp]

cosmetic

[wheat ridge]

thnx

[knotty moon]

Cosmetic, as far as we know.

[ionic widget]

It does affect virtue

[ripe token]

Damn so they aren't like the kubrows?

[knotty moon]

Virtue is a different choice iirc.

[ionic widget]

You prob right I just know the bear and wolf quest have them.

[knotty moon]

I think the Virtue choice is placed just after ||Orengal returns for part 2 of the Fable||.

[wheat ridge]

also what is the fastest way to lvl your own lvl so not weapons

[knotty moon]

Location motes and World Trees give a big boost to the Envoy level iirc.

[left perch]

Anyone know the like, nerdy math behind the 3 virtues? I was told maxing out a virtue my weapon is attuned to gives it a dmg bonus up to a cap, but apart from that, I don't really know what else they really do (apart from interacting with the spells I don't have)

[hidden robin]

https://youtu.be/zbJHKBQwkKM?t=86

[knotty moon]

The wiki at Avakot.org has most of the nerdy bits. (under the relative Pact page for the abilities, and on a weapon page for weapons)
The cap you can figure out yourself by adding points one by one and seeing when the damage stops going up.

[humble bough]

can i reset the game?

its been a while since playing and im lost

[thin hazel]

currently no, in the future they do plan to have optional resets

[humble bough]

ok thank you

[raw heart]

Hey gamers! I finished the main quests but now I'm lost on what else I can do now, any ideas?

[knotty moon]

Might want to watch the Envoy Hours videos, they run through the early game and should refresh you.

Or you can replay the Tormented Stag from the codex, it has most of the tutorials.

[dusky tangle]

Any combination of these that make you happy:

• Increase your weapon and pact collection
• Run faction tales for exclusive rewards
• Collect the three Halloween-exclusive masks
• Explore crypts and the mystery of the circade
• Raid Ft Kearnhold (has a big red balloon above it)
• Collect location name motes to decode them
• Level pacts and weapons to 30 to increase your player level
• Farm mini bosses for loot and gear

[raw heart]

Ty :)

[stark crypt]

How to kill Vadagar Stag

[knotty moon]

Bonk it on the head with a sufficently leveled weapon.

[stark crypt]

I have a Rank 27 Gwelyn Staff?

Why is it stuck in God Mode?

[knotty moon]

Might have to put a Joinery on that, iirc the damage is quite low.

[stark crypt]

My issue is he is in Godmode the entire time

Do I need to parry him?

[knotty moon]

There is no godmode, it is just a UI warning that you are not doing enough damage with your current method of attack.

[dense river]

Hi all, there are any info about the game coming on xbox?

[stark crypt]

He has godmode I cannot do damage

[dusky tangle]

You either need to increase your attack damage or decrease his defense

[stark crypt]

I think imma quit until the game is actually learnable easily

This is just messy and in alpha I understand, but atleast GIVE DIRECTIONS

[unique flame]

His health bar does move btw

I had it greyed out for the entirety of the time I was fighting him. A bow and the hail of arrows attack does WONDERS for beating him

[raw heart]

I managed to kill him using the damage buffs from tetheren, but I agree that the game needs to give the player a lot more information as it is

[dusky tangle]

Putting a beaver in your staff does wonders https://wiki.avakot.org/Beaver_(Totem)

[edgy sigil]

I'm excited to get my 2 and 3 star gear later from tuvalkane, do I need to level it to 30 before attaching a joinery or can I do it right after claiming it

is it like forma

[dusky tangle]

You can apply rusted, tempered, or polished joinery right away. You can’t apply blessed joinery to change the scaling until it’s level 30

[fossil notch]

Depends on the joinery

[knotty moon]

You can put a Joinery at any time, so long as you have the Tuvalkane rank to unlock Reforging.
Blessed Joinery require lvl 30, and are the only ones that reset the rank.

[edgy sigil]

thanks! time to check out hydron endless later maybe

[raw heart]

What does weapon level do exactly? Damage increase?

[edgy sigil]

yeah better scaling I think

[knotty moon]

Damage increase, more stagger, in general it becomes more powerful.

[raw heart]

Sweet

[dusky tangle]

Also gives you arts points to spend on the weapon tree every 5 levels

[raw heart]

Stagger seems... kinda useless though? Only time I've even staggered an enemy is the bear fight that I was smacking with the default sword

Maybe one or two staggers on other bosses

[knotty moon]

That has been my experience in P11 too.
It was a bit more common before.

[edgy sigil]

after I reach 30 on a pact any further exp goes for more points on the pact tree instead right?

[knotty moon]

Nope.

[edgy sigil]

[raw heart]

It would be nice if weapons did more general stagger, maybe enemies with shields could be more vulnerable... and a riposte on staggered bosses

It's kinda lame staggering the bear and he just... sits down for 2 seconds

[knotty moon]

Using the Tactical Assault Birds (Oscelda 3) is a good way to stagger.

[turbid summit]

if I like bows, what pact should I work towards getting next? I'm almost to 30 with sirin

[golden lily]

any best location to farm Marrows Bane or Tessard?

[knotty moon]

Stagger should open up for a finisher.

[unique flame]

How does the Smite mechanic work? I know I have a few things that do smite or heal on smite, but it doesn't seem to work

[edgy sigil]

so I can't max my bear? however many tree points I get at 30 is all I get?

[knotty moon]

Marrow's Bane is from Kabocha, Tessards is from Mockeries.

[mystic slate]

[edgy sigil]

oh no he's pulling the scrolls

[brazen bluff]

[neon meadow]

how do i use arch storm? i crushed a soul and this showed up

[brazen bluff]

What are you a staff or flying blade

[knotty moon]

When you hit an enemy sometimes you make them glow (that's the Smite chance).
If an enemy is glowing you can use Soul Mode + Attack for a soul steal.
This does a bit of damage, recharges one of your ability (based on color), and, depending if you have the pact talent for it, heals you. It also activate your rune if you have it.

[golden lily]

I thought I heard the sub bosses arent dropping weapons frags anymore

[brazen bluff]

Just left click like you normally would btw

[neon meadow]

staff

[knotty moon]

👀
That's news to me.

[edgy sigil]

you heard wrong, I just completed my cleaver frags yesterday

[golden lily]

ok cool

[dusky tangle]

Only the mockery boss stopped dropping weapons. It only drops the mockery armor now. Normal overworld mockeries and armored mockeries drop weapons

[neon meadow]

i realize that soul crush activates the rune, but how do i activate the rune?

[knotty moon]

Hit enemies, it is a buff for your weapon.

[neon meadow]

just regular left click attack, without soul mode?

[brazen bluff]

Yes

[neon meadow]

alright thx guys

[knotty moon]

Heavies or throws too.

[edgy sigil]

can I really not smite during orbiting blades or is it a bug

[dusky tangle]

You should be able to smite while blades are orbiting

[edgy sigil]

thanks, it's probably bromius shenanigans again

[icy crest]

I wonder where i can find the bear lol

Time to wander aimlessly

Again

[edgy sigil]

wander a bit north, it's in a magical place called wevetwood

unless you're talking about the fable, in which case wander about in nightfold

[dusky tangle]

Talk to verminia in the nightfold

[icy crest]

Okie dokie, i havent talked to her since she started doing colors lol

[unique crypt]

they really, really, need to do something about these cast times for abilities. it would be swell to be able to cast an ability without every archer within 100 meters sniping me, or a boss charging me and killing me while I try to cast an ability that would save me. they sure look nice, very cinematic, but it's incredibly frustrating (and the constant zoom in and out really kills it for me)

or at least make me invulnerable while I cast or something

[frozen tapir]

Is the game download able rn?

[edgy sigil]

I personally don't mind it, I've gotten my fill of instant cast abilities on Warframe.

the cast time forced me to consider positioning and if their gameplay direction isn't action oriented it kinda fits

[turbid summit]

I think the thing that bugs me most right now is the mission complete animation that allows any nearby enemies to line up to smash you as soon as it ends

[unique crypt]

gameplay that requires planning and consideration is one thing. loss of control and (in many cases) unavoidable damage is another entirely

[waxen yoke]

Sirin probably should have it's cast time reduced. It's easy for enemies to hit you before you use it and it's more of a support pact

[smoky crater]

You need to either be invited or get an access code from a twitch drop or on wednesdays when they send out 2000 invites to random people to be able to log into the game but yeah you can download the game. Just cant play without access

[smoky crater]

That sounds like tethren

[frozen tapir]

i remember hearing about this game back when warframe got the duviri update

[smoky crater]

Think the zoom in and out is something that feedback has been given about. As for cast times? Gotta be tactical with it

[trim oriole]

Am i crazy or are motes still applying?

seems like pacts and weapons i had mote equip still have them, you just cant see them anymore

[knotty moon]

They should have removed them in an hotfix.

[smoky crater]

They might be?
I do know that my Preludes Honor mote is still applied because i have the flower trail

Tho that could just be the trail that's applied without the motes actual buffs

[edgy sigil]

+1

I've been smashed so many times casting the bromius grace skill thinking "they won't hit me before it finishes" and it's almost always a tactical mistake on my part.

ff14 has cast times and animation locks, and so does the souls games and I think it's all about the positioning

I can't speak for tethren or sirin, but from my experience with bromius and every skill in oscelda I just haven't distanced myself enough and I had to learn the hard way that this is not an action game

[smoky crater]

Yyyyep

[cunning stirrup]

Can someone explain the Oscera’s 4 orbs that revolve in a circle on the ground after 4 basic attacks? I was thinking it boosts my stability stat since it says so in the description, but I still get knocked down or CC’d when I get hit. Is the boost effect not proccing?

[cursive veldt]

boosts damage iirc

[icy crest]

Yeah thats my only issue to lol

[unique crypt]

"not an action game" is a fair point, but the enemies don't behave like it's not an action game. they are very aggressive, the ranged enemies aim better than ever and bosses hit very hard. surely you can adapt and play around it, but I find it more frustrating than satisfying, personally

same with the aggressive lock on for melee

[cunning stirrup]

I’m not sure it does tbh, my damage has been consistent even at max stacks. I noticed it stays the same against the field bosses like the stag or even the sub-bosses.

[edgy sigil]

yeah I've made it my personal vendetta to murder the archers first theyre aimbotting lmao

[cunning stirrup]

Facts 🤣 in games like these, you beeline to ranged attackers first and turn them into exp before anything else

[dusky tangle]

Boosts attack speed and damage as you stand still while casting

[dusky tangle]

It’s an effect of your magic weapon, not your pact

[smoky crater]

That would be a magick weapon combat art doing that. Not the pact. Each orb increases your attack speed while stationary and reset after moving

[smoky crater]

Does it boost dmg? Istg it was just speed

[cunning stirrup]

Haven’t felt it boosting anything even at rank 28 of the Gwylen, but I might as well test it out to be sure.

[raw heart]

So, anyone know why I keep getting randomly ambushed by fog people?

[smoky crater]

Because you're smashing pumpkins

[edgy sigil]

you smashed their squash bro

[smoky crater]

Related to the halloween event Bita's Eve

[dusky tangle]

Correction: it’s just attack speed. Feybalt Joinery increases consecutive attack damage and I thought it was the art

[raw heart]

I do a lot of squash smashing so good to know

[edgy sigil]

"my cabbages!" energy

[raw heart]

I have 413 squash seed, wtf do I do with it?

[cunning stirrup]

I see, that makes sense then ig, if it’s attack speed. Though the Gwylen doesnt feel too fast when basic attacking, but the charged shot does feel faster

[edgy sigil]

dinner

or make the masks

[raw heart]

I'm not a bird, I don't eat seeds :(

[edgy sigil]

:c

[raw heart]

Masks work

[knotty moon]

Wait for trade, sell second hand mask sets.

[edgy sigil]

ooooh is it not gonna be a yearly thing

[knotty moon]

Most likely, but I'm sure someone will want to buy it in February at some point.

[edgy sigil]

winter spooks is valid

[cunning stirrup]

I’ve heard that magick weapons (the staffs) have wonky aims but from my experience u can aim where the attacks go by tapping on right click mid animation, as the reticle pops up for a bit when u do it

[keen river]

there will always be someone who missed the event and doesn't want to wait for it to come around next year, so if we can sell extra sets, that creates a market

[keen river]

it's easier to hold right-click imo. the reticle stays on screen permanently while you're doing that, and it disables auto lock-on, so you can aim freely

[smoky crater]

Or you can just hold right click and continue attacking

[cunning stirrup]

It locks you into the staff block though, which is useless against physical attacks

[keen river]

you can still dodge out of it if you're about to get hit.

[cunning stirrup]

Ohhhhh I see, I’ll try it out then

[keen river]

and i mean, blocking an attack and taking hella stagger from it is still slightly better than just tanking the hit outright, if that's the issue

[cunning stirrup]

Dtill trying to get Odiac but the overworld bosses just don’t drop it

[edgy sigil]

I got a frag from t3 nimrod, not sure if dimrod drops it too?

[cunning stirrup]

I rebinded my dodge to my mouse’s thumb button so i can dodge 🤣

[keen river]

i just left it on shift tbh. easy enough to tap

[cunning stirrup]

I think he does, but where does he spawn in the field? I’ve taken out the mendicant king just by exploring and most of the other field bosses and subs but idk where nimrod spawns

Havent had him spawn before

Apart from the brewer of hues questline

[raw heart]

So even if I remove all my spent virtue points, I have 10 more courage than all my other stats. Am I locked to higher courage distribution or is there something I'm missing?

[cunning stirrup]

I have it on both shift and thumb button to be sure

[keen river]

check your pact arts, and your pact itself might also have a bonus to courage

also your equipped talisman could be giving you courage

[knotty moon]

Pacts give Virtue, even without talents.
You might also have a Talisman equipped.

[edgy sigil]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P11?loc=discharged-nimrod

[raw heart]

Ah thanks, I'm still with tethren so that's prob why

[cunning stirrup]

Thanks for this!

[keen river]

tethren pact, for example, gives +5 courage; that explains part of it

[edgy sigil]

every 3 hours

[cunning stirrup]

Looks like I know what to focus farm on now

[edgy sigil]

good luck! I'm working on bear 🐻

[cunning stirrup]

iirc the field sub boss in the area where the latest quest finishes also drops the bear fragments. I killed 2 of em yesterday and got fragments for the chest armor and the legs

[hybrid loom]

i have a question for precklies, does it drop from all archers variant (regular and elite) or just the regular ?

[edgy sigil]

yep I keep shaking it and all that drops are helmets

[knotty moon]

Lvl 15+ iirc.

[cunning stirrup]

This is pain hahahaha

[hybrid loom]

ok, thank you

[cunning stirrup]

We’re all at the mercy of RNG

Last question; is max rank for weapons and pacts here 30? Same as WF?

[knotty moon]

Yep.

[cunning stirrup]

I see, thanks!

[knotty moon]

Max achievable Envoy Rank is 16 currently.

[cunning stirrup]

I’m still on 3 or 4 atm, just finished the bear quest 2 days ago

But that’s a good pointer to know, thanks!

[edgy sigil]

do we know if exp is distributed on all gear as well? like if I don't have a sidearm will I get more exp towards my main weapon and/or pact?

[knotty moon]

Nope, you get the same exp.

[edgy sigil]

alas

[knotty moon]

Feel free to keep your stuff equipped.

[unique flame]

I've been looking EVERYWHERE for the 4th mote for Salzbrim, anyone got any tips for finding those?

[edgy sigil]

actually not alas I can keep a maxed sidearm

[edgy sigil]

you get a max of 2 motes per instance, once you find those 2 you can relog to get new mote locations

[cunning stirrup]

Motes?

[knotty moon]

Relog if you really can't find one.
Also keep in mind that they don't necessarily all spawn.
When you enter an area (which is the spawn trigger) there is a marker for how many are available.

[unique flame]

OOHHHH THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY.

[edgy sigil]

the golden fart clouds that unlock letters for locations

[cunning stirrup]

Ahhhhhhh so those were called motes

[knotty moon]

I'm fairly sure that you can get more than 2, if quite rarely.

[cunning stirrup]

Thought they were souls or smthng

[unique flame]

I've spent multiple hours looking for the last one in area before because I thought they all had dedicated locations

[edgy sigil]

man if that's the case rngesus really hates me lmao

[knotty moon]

To be fair they might have changed that since P9.

[solemn sequoia]

is the mastery still bugged on where if you delete a pact/weapon it goes down or did they fix that

[golden lily]

ive been farming mockeries for hours. Does Tessard for sure drop from them?

[hoary mountain]

i was literally just coming in to ask this lmao

[unique crypt]

sometimes I feel like we are all just carried by orbiting flyblades lmao

constant stagger, smite chance for heals, etc

so nice

[crystal cliff]

flyblades do seem to be the best option for sidearms universally currently

[hybrid loom]

as long as you aren't trying to drop it from the glades endless zone it should be fine

but their weapons don't drop very often, RNG

[neon meadow]

what does this mean? its a node on magick weapon tree? i want to use odiac

what are spectre strikes

[lament hearth]

Why is my weapon level stuck at 3 O.o

[crystal cliff]

thats another node on the tree, its a strike after perfect dodge

[neon meadow]

So after perfect dodge i left click with odiac to shoot and smite chance is increased?

[crystal cliff]

you got it

[echo token]

For reference, a Perfect Dodge is indicated by a whooshing sound and a flash when you dodge.

[neon meadow]

these descriptions are so bad (in game)

[crystal cliff]

i never found them to be that mysterious but im sure future tutorials etc will help to clean some of it up

[neon meadow]

imagine not knowing what spectre strike is (DE probably)

[crystal cliff]

if im not mistaken that node on the tree comes after you put a point into spectre strikes so i think its fairly obvious

[echo token]

Weapon level? Or Combat Arts?

[lament hearth]

Combat arts sry, weapon level is much higher

[solemn sequoia]

you get a combat art point every 6 levels

[crystal cliff]

you get 1 point per 6 weapon levels or so

im not sure what level combat arts cap at but you have to level multiple weapons of the same type to get them all

[echo token]

Caps out at the number of weapons of that Combat Art category currently in the game. Short Blades has the highest currently, at 35 possible Combat Arts points.

EDIT: Whoops, didn't see how many Long Blades were introduced, if the same rules apply there are 45 possible Combat Arts points.

[lament hearth]

Ah okay thx a lot. The other stuff for spells is leveling like crazy but the combat arts were a bit strange

[crystal cliff]

good to know i imagine then that the trees will eventually get bigger since you probably have more points than you can spend currently?

[echo token]

Possibly? There are some trees that have only 2 weapons in them.

[crystal cliff]

sure i imagine those trees will get many more weapns in the future though to

[echo token]

They might go the opposite direction and introduce more types of Combat Art categories (i.e. Cleavers, split Short Blades into Paired Daggers and Single Daggers). Who knows?

[crystal cliff]

true

[edgy sigil]

next thing you know it all gets combined into one path of exile like tree

[dusky tangle]

They’ve also discussed scrapping the combat arts system altogether in favor of building a personal “martial arts manual”-type system

[solemn sequoia]

3 hour boss timers and i need 4 fragments to make this chest piece oh my goooddddddd

[fierce scaffold]

hey what are these little arcane circles that appear around me when using different magic weapons

[edgy sigil]

it's the alpha anything can happen

[edgy sigil]

#gameplay-discussion message

[dusky tangle]

Magic weapon passive that increases attack speed as you cast while standing still

[fierce scaffold]

oh sick. ty

[crystal cliff]

make friends and you can do more bosses more often

[solemn sequoia]

honestly, might have to make use of the lfg channel for once

[crystal cliff]

people often use the recruitment in game though most people are looking for "shares" so dont join unless your boss is also up to share. Unless someone say something like "free king" in which case feel free to join freely

[solemn sequoia]

will keep that in mind 👍

[thorn locust]

I was wondering why my Combat Art levels for Long Blade grinder to a halt. Didn’t know they leveled the same way that Mastery levels up 😅

[crystal cliff]

yup gotta train with different long blades to master it all!

[thorn locust]

This makes so much more sense. That’s what I get for exclusively using Igne Mora once I got it 🤣

[onyx grotto]

Igne Mora is such an awesome weapon ❤️

[thorn locust]

It is, I love the design and fantasy of it

[lilac goblet]

Where do find weepin dris on the map?

[unborn burrow]

Is there a bug or something? Im tryna log in but it says check my info.. i legit changed my password and checked my email and its all correct

[half talon]

Yellow flowers can be found all over but if you’re looking for cloudquell potion ingredients I suggest concentrate near the college of pensives.

[unborn burrow]

i can log in on the website but not the game its self pls help

[civic needle]

how do i farm the medicant king? i couldnt find a page about him on the wiki

[half talon]

It may just be a hiccup. Try uninstalling and reinstalling. That might get it unhitched.

[half talon]

You can fight him once every three hours.

[civic needle]

ok

[lilac goblet]

Anyone have a map of all world bosses?

[smoky crater]

[unborn burrow]

nah that didnt work'

[half talon]

Hmm I’m not sure then.

[dusky tangle]

He regenerates every 3 hours. He has a chance to drop a fragment of his armor pieces with each kill

[civic needle]

ic

are there drop rates somewhere?

[dusky tangle]

Those are set server side so we have no way to know for sure. https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Mendicant_King

But I think he always drops one fragment. So it’s 1/3 for each, legs/armor/helm

[edgy sigil]

we're all at the mercy of rngesus bro

[civic needle]

33% drop rates arent terrible

[whole owl]

nope, all the wiki data is crowdsourced, DE has said they have interest in making a public export but we're not there yet

[grizzled depot]

hey got to ask, after a couple runs... do neathuns even have chests? there seems to be only those mushrooms

[half talon]

Not at the moment.

[grizzled depot]

ah guess only for materials, need so much spider thread still

[runic igloo]

guys there is any way to sell a max rank weapon, i don't have space 🙂

[plucky junco]

you should be able to at the weapon rack next to the arsenal

or to avakot

[runic igloo]

ooh ty so much i was suffering

i have like 20 ready weapons from craft

[normal sail]

handing Avakot a rank 30 igne mora and telling him to go do a crime

[rigid parrot]

Which b oss are you farming?

[neon meadow]

whats the best long sword for Smite chance?

[dusky tangle]

Dewelion and vetch are tied at 6% i think

[neon meadow]

igne mora is 1/25 and vetch 3/50

idk whats better

ill try out vetch

[solemn sequoia]

focusing on namely kabocha for the arbearers stuff but im also wandering around finding other guys to see if i can get other parts i may need

[solemn sequoia]

well that would be 2/50 vs 3/50

so vetch is minimally better

[keen cave]

anyone know why the weapon I just made has a red downward arrow on it? At first I just thought it did less damage than my current weapon but others that do less don't have that arrow

[solemn sequoia]

i think some weapons have a minimum virtue requirement

[keen cave]

ah got it. tysm

[unique flame]

Correct @solemn sequoia

[grizzled depot]

do willowisps only drop the frond if you defeat them or can they blow up? I am not exactly sure myself

nvm they can drop from exploding

[unique flame]

For NPC's in the hub, we've got the Historian dude, Forge lady, and FashionFrameMcGee correct? Nobody else I'm missing?

[grizzled depot]

doggy counts too

[unique flame]

Doggy counts too, you're so right

[digital path]

I mean the math on that one is self explanitory- igne mora is 3/75 and vetch is 3/50

[neon meadow]

What melee has highest smite chance?

i see royal tines is 9/100

[edgy sigil]

can't believe this game makes us calculate fractions

[digital path]

You can get the Verdigris up to 3-20 if I remember correctly?

[grizzled depot]

meanwhile the totems have %s

well more of a variety, some have %s, some have fractions some have "1 in 100"...

[digital path]

Gotta use the throw specific 1-11 smite to get it that high though

But it smites constantly for me, I can't wait to see if I can get the witan to do that

It looks like it has the exact same smite stats, so yeah

Oh it's actually 1% higher nice

[solemn sequoia]

theres really gotta be just direct location pings for objectives at some point. these large vague areas for small hidden items gets a little annoying

[digital path]

I mean, you have a built in Witcher sense

I think it works fine

[edgy sigil]

Morrowind just gave players written directions from the journal, and as frustrating as it can get sometimes I like how Soulframe is kinda taking that slower approach to quest objectives

[wispy cosmos]

okay what does a grey name mean exactly - things I was killing stuff with in p9 seem to not be able to hit things now

[edgy sigil]

they implemented totems and runes to augment the stats on your gear now

(not sure if that was a thing in p9)

[wispy cosmos]

I got that memo, that is new to me - is there a damage threshold to level or something? How do I know what content a weapon is good for?

[plucky junco]

if you mean the grey health bar, i think it means the enemy's armour is too strong for your basic attacks

[wispy cosmos]

this banneret was switching from grey to red in kearnhold but the castellan was red the whole time

[plucky junco]

that can happen sometimes if your attack is going up and down with things like tethren's first ability for example, i think, but i'm not sure about the exact rules

[wispy cosmos]

and my precklies say they do more damage than my vetch but stuff is grey to them and not to vetch

[plucky junco]

it could be that the number value doesn't actually reflect the exact damage output, but i'm not sure

[wispy cosmos]

I just thought about it, maybe the damage "type" like impact puncture slash, has something to do with it

[fierce scaffold]

so how rare are these weapon runes? the wiki said "common" and idk how accurate that is compared to other drops

but ive gotten everything nimrod can drop but the rune

[plucky junco]

runes are fairly rare, i think, at least from what people are saying

[wispy cosmos]

i have killed all the bosses on the map several times, have gear from almost all of them and have 1 rune lol

[fierce scaffold]

oooh it drops specifically from dimrod

not the full ass guy

[wintry arch]

I'm a few hours in and feeling very slow open world arpg'd — running around trying to figure out what to do, find map reveals, I have zero gear or build options besides 2 new basic weapons (that seem to suck since half my stats are from pact right now). Seeing boss maps and rotations and timers is reminding me of Genshin which I absolutely hated. Does it get better? Is it worth continuing if I don't usually like open world arpgs? Should I just come back when it's in a more finished state?

I realised I had preludes access after coming across the game again through some reddit post related to the Spiritvale playtest, which I picked up last weekend, and honestly I think I was having more fun with that so far.

[wispy cosmos]

Probably come back later. The game has an esoteric "figure it out or wiki" vibe right now and it sounds like that's not for you

[keen sable]

they will be adjusting new player experience in P12 on the 25th they said. so should be a lot better then

[digital path]

Everyone keeps saying that but I got Alca's and the Arch rune in a single boss rotation

[normal sail]

bless your rng. I have several failed nimrod and a few spider kills before I got each of the runes

[digital path]

Is there an easy way of killing the nimrod mini boss that doesn't require crafting cloudquell

I don't wanna keep spamming my "Medusa" 1 to stop him from healing constantly

[normal sail]

other than going invulnerable with Ode Tempest or channeling your inner Souls skill and constantly dodge, not really

[digital path]

How does that stop him from healing?

[normal sail]

dodge and heavy attack until his heal stops and pray you managed to keep it at or below what it was before the heal

[neat citrus]

do more damage

[normal sail]

yeah thats basically the only way to beat nimrod w/o cloudquell

other than recruiting other Envoys

[plucky junco]

that's just the way rng works, unfortunately, some people get lucky, and others have to struggle a bit 🥹

[keen sable]

if i could id'e share some with you, i've got extras

[digital path]

I could craft the cloudquell but I have a feeling the new raid is gonna require it somehow

So I'm saving up

[plucky junco]

i don't need more runes personally, i have a few spares already, but the drop rate is something that comes up a lot as feedback

[undone minnow]

Tethren is legitimately the only consistent way I've found to deal with dimrod

[edgy sigil]

where do i get rhianna again

[keen sable]

ohhhh got ya

[edgy sigil]

is that kith

[normal sail]

raid? you mean Cogah? that's just a hard mode potion

[digital path]

I mean it's currently fine as the runes are essentially the "endgame" upgrade system

[keen sable]

i've done with all but ode, teth, and brom are prolly the easiest

[digital path]

But I think that motes and runes should work like mods and get shared between weapons

Needing dupes is kinda dumb

[undone minnow]

Oh yeah ode exists

[digital path]

Ode is just time consuming to get

[undone minnow]

But Tethren just nukes the man

[keen sable]

you don't need dupes though besides more than 1 animal if you need multiple for the weapon?

[digital path]

At least they fixed rep farms and the exp reqs don't scale up

[undone minnow]

I think I got ode as my starting pact in p8?

How do you get it now

[digital path]

If you want to have multiple weapons of the same type kitted out, you need a dupe of every mote and rune if you want the exact same loadout on both.

[normal sail]

rank 5 alca/rose

[undone minnow]

Oof

[keen sable]

no you don't

[plucky junco]

you can have the same runes and totems on multiple weapons

[digital path]

My motes are not shared across weapons

Oh, well then not runes

[undone minnow]

They should be

[plucky junco]

sorry, typo

[digital path]

No, I specifically had to upgrade a second rabbit because I was already using one on another weapon

Didn't show up, same hilt type, same weapon type, same slot

[undone minnow]

That's not the norm, I'd report that

[digital path]

Oop

[keen sable]

shortblade maybe yea

[digital path]

?

[keen sable]

that would be the only instance i guess

but yea it would be a bug otherwise or you accidently sold it or something

[digital path]

Must be bugged because I checked if it was equipped still when it happened

Good to know- that system doesn't suck nearly as badly as I thought it would

Having dupes is still a necessary thing though, since runes currently give you an additional slot

And I can only imagine later runes will give you even more slots down the line

[keen sable]

well i'm going for extra runes atm because i THINK they may eventually make them weapon locked

[digital path]

I hope not

Honestly, I hope that getting multiple of the runes wiill let you upgrade a tier for free

I thought the motes would work that way

[keen sable]

it would make sense as to why they would. would slow down people from being OP all the time and give vet players reasons to still run them helping out newer players

don't mind the upgrading more, I've got so much of the dust or w/e it's called it's silly.

[digital path]

I feel like in order for that to be the case, the runes would have to be evergreen content

And I can't see them not getting more complex in the future

Unless you were to have to craft multiple runes together and then it would become a material farm instead

[keen sable]

who knows, they could do anything so having extras just in case is good.

[digital path]

Tru tru

[iron temple]

I've noticed that this prelude I haven't gotten any feybalt or quicksilver blessed joineries but tons of Verite, the complete opposite of last prelude... 😅

[keen sable]

pretty much just luck but tbh feels like last patch they started dropping less often.

that's the drop tables for feybalt, all the others are somewhat similar except gildaur

[digital path]

Blessed is the one that lets you change weapon affinity right?

[keen sable]

correct

ahh verite is also slightly different, it's not glades bann it's midrath and gildaur is undercity and malrog. but nim king and stag are the same accross

[digital path]

Too bad vadagar got relegated to the end of 3 stage Alca's Children Fables

I miss it being an open world boss

[keen sable]

so T3 it up basically

well east and north east t3 it up. but i feel i've gotten it in other zones but might just miss remember

[iron temple]

I still have occasionally encountered open world stags... 😄

[keen sable]

also anyone know if Bog & Myrtle and Oryn-Umbr have different attack speeds?

I don't remember and I don't wanna craft bog again to check

p11 player with limited slots

[iron temple]

I don't remember that part but I do know that Orny-Umbr has really good smite chance and Bog & Myrtle has really bad smite chance... 😅

[keen sable]

yea pretty big difference

i was just curious about that is all

[iron temple]

Also for sword and shield I like to put 1 speed squirrel and 1 armor strip beaver attack totem! 😄

[keen sable]

i love the look of B&M but Oryn is just better stat wise

[iron temple]

the other thing is that the sword of Oryn-Umbr is shorter...

[keen sable]

I was thinking that i've been playing around with double speed, or double stagger or 1 of each and that too

but def 1 speed for sure it feels

[iron temple]

Bog & Myrtle also has 4 more attack stat

[keen sable]

tru a smidge more attack but for the smite loss i dunno

but do get really good smites of flyblades. use slow instead of armor reduction. it's REALLY good

[iron temple]

one of my main build goals is overcoming the armor of bosses in general, ode'n bisulcam specifically, and the armored mockries. I also want to minimize Nimrod TTK (time-to-kill) because they love to 2-shot... 😄

[keen sable]

yea he kinda mean lol

[iron temple]

one of my fave things to do is use a max smite chance weapon like Dewelion so I can keep flaming on! 😄

Dewelion on Tempest gives me plenty of room to refine my sword martial techniques! 😄

[edgy sigil]

this one time nimrod sat on me and i died instantly lmao

[teal iris]

Where do you get the masks?

[plucky junco]

for the halloween event, the fragments drop from the scarecrows scattered around the world

[teal iris]

thanks hun

[plucky junco]

good luck

[edgy sigil]

p12 is when we get more slots right? and its +16, not total 16?

[normal sail]

nimrods triple duhk halik strike

that one attack still gets me

[plucky junco]

the starting slot count was adjusted down for p11, but i haven't heard anything about that

[edgy sigil]

oh crap is this one on p11

Reduced default inventory slots for new accounts (Pacts to 3, Weapons to 6). Existing accounts have been granted +4 Pact and +16 Weapon slots to compensate for this change.

[plucky junco]

yep, that's already happened

[edgy sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-dunder-mifflin-m-ichael-scott-no-gif-5417638

[visual bane]

pays to get in early ig

[keen sable]

yea i really wish i had started in p10 like my buddy tried talking me into. I at first really wasn't interested because I didn't like warframe at all. so i was very hesitant to play

[mighty crypt]

it feels much better than playing warframe, even the dungeon crawling is fun

[keen sable]

for sure. I'm very happy i decided to play soulframe

[visual bane]

my first prelude was 8 i think

might've been near end of 7 but no earlier

[pseudo crane]

I joined in prelude 9

[keen sable]

dang, reallllly wish i got those extra slots, hate having to delete stuff constantly

[pseudo crane]

I am looking to eventually find the mats for the colors

[keen sable]

luckly it's not that bad now that they fixed the halloween event taking up spawns, won't take you too long. tho if you gotta get spider thread i super recommend going sirin and dumping into spirit and just cast glamour. will save you so much time pickpocketing them

[pseudo crane]

I just wish i knew more where to find the spawns for items

[keen sable]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Cosmetics

if you click on the figments you will see what items are required and can click them to see where they are

or where they drop

[pseudo crane]

clicks

[sick condor]

whats the best way to level up weapons?

[pseudo crane]

Endless rooms

from what i've heard

[distant jungle]

The endless room spawn is the most time effective but can also be very monotonous. As an alternative, high level faction tales are good for leveling stuff up from the bonus XP they give you, and you're farming rep at the same time.

Not quite as time effective for xp but a bit less repetitive.

[calm ginkgo]

If you don’t want to mindlessly farm mockeries for hours, just equip your new wep and play. You’ll level it eventually.

[mighty crypt]

the world building with RTGI too...

even UE5 AAA aren't this good

and the game runs like butter smooth. not sure what kind of magic they used on the engine

[mighty crypt]

why tho?

[edgy sigil]

idk man its pain

[edgy sigil]

13 years on the warframe engine

[mighty crypt]

yeah makes sense. compared to 2015 when I first played warframe it is unbelievable

[cosmic stratus]

Hey everyone. I started playing soulframe earlier today and i love it! Any tips anyone can give me? Right now i feel like im just roaming around the map exploring

[patent summit]

dere are gwoss silver tree wid spears sticking outta dem.

take out da spears to make da map around da twee show up. owo

o, an smack da scarecrows, cuz da spoopy event :3

[raw heart]

Anyone know the point of the combat art that makes arrows stick in targets longer, and the one that increases damage depending on arrow type considering they have unlimited arrows?

[plucky junco]

i think arrows sticking in targets longer lets you stack more of them before exploding them with a charged arrow

for the thing about arrow types, i'm not sure, but i think it's flavour text, or text for something that hasn't been implemented yet, so i assumed it just applies to all arrows

[solemn sequoia]

if avakot isnt selling it, where can i farm moranite effectively? ive checked the dungeons and whatnot but i dont think im getting any

[normal sail]

has it rn and the places that drop it are:

[solemn sequoia]

hm

[normal sail]

unfortunate, i got a endless tile in a tale glades run

[solemn sequoia]

undercity faction tale got me a whole... one moranite

avakot stop being cheap i need this stuff

[median wolf]

LMFAOO

[solemn sequoia]

i am however getting polished giladaurs like a mf so thats nice

[normal sail]

they do get handed out pretty often

[solemn sequoia]

i was honestly worried they were gonna be the rarest of the 4

[median wolf]

Getting river pearls kinda upsets me 😂.

[normal sail]

-# then theres these
-# forever trapped with them (not, prob)

[solemn sequoia]

the day we can sell old joineries and dupe fragments will be the day i dont have to worry about dracs anymore

[solemn sequoia]

also yeah ive seen like 2 pearls with all the new river plants, kinda happy i was stocked before they added more stuff

[normal sail]

do i make this tale take longer than it should, but max sollos and orengall for free basically because Grinn will carry?

[edgy sigil]

somebody said they have their odiac attuned to courage.

how? blessed joinery?

[normal sail]

yes

[edgy sigil]

wow

soo.... I can have a spirit attuned cleaver?

[normal sail]

yup i forget what sollos is originally but i have a mora on it for courage builds

[edgy sigil]

oh wow

[crystal tusk]

Do I get mastery points if i full rank a weapon like in Warframe?

[plucky junco]

you should, yep

or at least, it contributes to the rank/level equivalent

[solemn sequoia]

sollos is shpirit by default

[normal sail]

[ember plume]

what’s the best long blade in the game rn

[knotty moon]

~~Long Sword, or Long Blade?
First is Dewelion, second is ~~Marrow's Bane imo.

[ember plume]

long blade, still learning the game’s terms mb

[dusky iris]

which shield is better between the two we have?

[knotty moon]

Oryn-Umbr imo, slightly lower damage, but higher Smite chance.

[crystal tusk]

Thank you.

[dusky iris]

ty ty

[iron temple]

Though Marrow's Bane is a cleaver type and not a normal long blade...

[knotty moon]

Yep, they have been thrown in the same category.
My guess is that after they decided to rework the Arts into the whole Martial Arts thingy they just didn't bother making a temporary category.

[mental prairie]

is orengall still bugged such that points in the melee passive go to feral instead?

[iron temple]

I think they fixed that or at least said they did...

[languid sparrow]

Hi all, just a quick question, I just registered on the website, downloaded the game, but I do not have a key yet. I want to buy the founder package, by the 25'th November I do not have a key to be able to play, will I receive it after the purchase, or I am waiting until I get an invite and then it is linked automatically?

Thank you 😁

[plucky junco]

the founders packs should give guaranteed access if you purchase one, i think

[languid sparrow]

Great, thank you, I was thinking that would be the case, but we will see.

[plucky junco]

at the very least, they're supposed to come with keys, so it wouldn't make much sense not to include access for the person buying them 🥹

[iron temple]

I looked it up and it was fixed on preludes 10 release back in May. 👍

[lament hearth]

What's the number on the shields over the enemys for? If some have a 10 there they almost don't die (shield guys mostly but works with "spells") and then there are other enemys with a 10 on their head dying in 2 hits. Id this some kind of "You should have this weapon level to be here" kind of stuff?

[knotty moon]

Enemy level.
Goes up to 40 right now in the overworld, and up to whatever you want in the endless.

[lament hearth]

okay thx. How do I get my unread mail ingame? That prompt drives me nuts and I can't find a mailbox anywhere... most likely I'm blind ^^.

[knotty moon]

Mailbox doesn't exist, ignore it, just a bug.

[lament hearth]

Is there some kind of of offline experience gain? It's the second time while I play I get Pact points and combat art levels after logging in over night O.o

[plucky junco]

i don't think there is... it could just be that it didn't update properly before logging off but i'm not sure

[lament hearth]

Where do I get crafting fragments? Redoing a boss in coop didn't drop any. Is this something that gets explained later on in the story?

[plucky junco]

not really, the story fables are only supposed to reward fragments the first time you complete them

most fragments should come from drops and chests, i think

[knotty moon]

With the exception of Juniper and Dukh Halic.

Wiki at Avakot.org has the drop sources, that should be up to date.

[proper crater]

Like the big thing about fragments is you want to look around if you've killed one of the Agari so you can ensure you gathered everything, sometimes loot just... Stays in the air

[lament hearth]

erm... agari?

[proper crater]

The sub bosses, they're called Agari

[knotty moon]

Sub Bosses proper name (at least it will be in P12).

[proper crater]

(I like it, hope they don't change it later on, lol.)

[lament hearth]

Do I know them when I see them? So far I mindlessly slaughtered everything that moved without giving it another thought. Are those the guys with antlers or whatever?

[knotty moon]

They should have boss health bars, so it should pretty noticable.

[proper crater]

The Agari have boss bars at the top, if you don't see a boss bar, it's not one, most likely

I've had the Impidh not show his bar a few times lol

[lament hearth]

Well most likely I haven't seen one then 😄 . But then again enemies with shield were harder to kill then the first story boss ^^.

What is weapon attunement good for? First I thought I'll get more dmg out of it but my progression is kind of snails pace. Is there something I need to know about this?

[knotty moon]

Attunement is what your weapon damage scales with.
If your weapon is Grace Attuned if you raise Grace it will raise the damage.
This does have a cap based on the weapon, you can either check manually by adding point by point and then checking the tooltip, or check the wiki at Avakot.org.

[lament hearth]

Yeah but there are weapons with 1 star and 2 stars for me, So I thought it would be better to go for a weapon with 2 stars ^^

[knotty moon]

Ah, the stars are supposed to denote better scaling overall, not sure it actually checks out.
More stars weapons are generally stronger though.

[lament hearth]

Ah now I've seen it.. the fellas with the antlers on their plate armor helmet drop fragments. Nothing special about them though.
For the weapon stars... yeah I went from mage pew pew ranged attack to dual wielding daggers... bit of a bummer but I hope I get used to melee.

[errant root]

I enjoy the polearm you get from the one boss, once you get used to how slow it is you absolutely wreck faces.

[lament hearth]

I have no skill that's why I went for magic 😄 No I try to hit a blue balloon with weapon throw and missed three times already. So it'll take me a while ^^

[errant root]

The Duhk Halic polearm is real good.

[lament hearth]

Started out with Spirit. Don#t know If I ever reach the rquirements for it. There is sadly no way to start over afaik

[knotty moon]

You can respec the points at any time.

[errant root]

Yeah I was gonna say

[lament hearth]

Yeah but I can't dump down the mainattribute i picked in char creation so I'm stuck with a minimum of 8 in spirit ^^

[knotty moon]

The Virtue directly by clicking on the "-" buttons, and the Pact talents with the "Reset" button.
All starter choices are obtainable later by changing Faction.

[distant jungle]

Yeah, 'class' is entirely freeform. You can freely change virtue assignment, pact, etc.

[distant jungle]

This is just the +5 from Oscelda.

[lament hearth]

from what?

[distant jungle]

Every pact has a bump in one of the virtues.

Oscelda, your pact.

With Bestone and the birds and all that.

[errant root]

You can swap pacts

[knotty moon]

Oscelda has +9 iirc, all the others have +5.

[lament hearth]

Ahhh okay I see

[distant jungle]

Pretty sure all have +5, especially considering they're at a total of 8.

[lament hearth]

I don't have another pact so nothing to change here

[errant root]

I havent played since they added the blaster fists, I need to dip back in

[knotty moon]

Maybe they fixed it. goes to check

[distant jungle]

Someone might have gotten confused from motes still applying despite being invisible?

If motes were equipped to someone's Oscelda.

Before that got fixed and they were properly deleted.

[knotty moon]

I'm fairly sure I only had a +2 mote for spirit, so at best it would have been +7.

[lament hearth]

Sooo how do I get pacts? While doing the story I guess? or can I run somwhere on the map and pick one up so to speak?

[knotty moon]

3 with story quest (Tormented Stag, Shewolf Snared, Waste Bear), the rest by the factions (lower rank for the starters, rank 5 for Ode Tempest/Mora's Hand).

[distant jungle]

Three are starter, and you can redeem both they and two more from factions.

Three more are fable rewards.

Yeah what Dexell said.

[errant root]

I need to do the bear

[lament hearth]

I only have the one I started with everything else is greyed out

[distant jungle]

Do not the bear.

[lament hearth]

Done the stag already and now I'm on the wolf quest, didn't get a pact though. Do I need to craft that item to get it?

[distant jungle]

Yes.

Pacts need to be crafted at Tuvalkane same as weapons and everything else.

[errant root]

start grindin mats

[lament hearth]

Well then lets see where I get Quartz lol

[knotty moon]

Not sure what is happening here then.
Reset the talents and removed the Talisman.

[lament hearth]

Attribute points you skilled?

[knotty moon]

All in Grace, wouldn't count on the +n anyway.
If you mean the quest ones, one in Courage and one the other in Grace iirc.

[dim island]

https://tenor.com/view/soulframe-soulframe-fr-wevzy-français-france-gif-1073506019361572742

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gift 😁 😉

[maiden furnace]

i need help with the relic of old faction quest. Second time i got this seed and i am unable to find it

[plucky junco]

if you're already inside the dungeon looking for the scroll, sometimes it's not exactly inside the circle for the objective

it might be in an adjacent tile, or you might need to solve a puzzle to get to it, or both

but then it's been a little while since i ran into that tale so it might have changed a bit...

[maiden furnace]

i went to the mirror room, but tehres nth there

its the one with the weird fireplace with some flowers to the left

this

[plucky junco]

the objectives and dungeons are randomised, so i can't really say where it is - i'd try looking around in soul mode if you haven't already but apart from that, i can't help much right now, sorry

[maiden furnace]

ah okay. nps thanks

[left perch]

So, does trh Vadagar Stag have any specific mechanics the game jsut didn't teach me, or was i supposed to deal just 1 dmg to it the enitre fight. save for a couple 28 dmg hits from hitting the head?

[knotty moon]

You are simply underequipped.

[maiden furnace]

i think ur under dmg

if u have the dmg boosting ability you can still deal dmg

[left perch]

I only have the starting ranged pact with the defensive skills

Also it sucks if that means I'm underleveled, because they put the Stag as an objective in the fables I am supposed to do to level up

[knotty moon]

Putting a Joinery on your weapon if you unlocked Reforging is a quick way to boost damage.

[left perch]

Oh, does reforging just simply upgrade a weapon? I thought it dissolved your weapon to create a new one with like, +2 attack

[knotty moon]

Fables are story quest, what you are doing are most likely Faction Tales, which are not required (mainly they give Faction rep).

[lament hearth]

Is there a way to make permanent map markers? I once droped in a hole and ended up in a faction hub but guess what 😄 it's not on my map -.-

[knotty moon]

The name is a bit unfortunate (carryover from when it would always reset the weapon rank), but yes putting a Joinery is a straight upgrade for the cost of some materials.
Note that a Blessed Joinery still resets the rank.

[plucky junco]

no permanent markers currently
that enclave is suppsoed to show up on the map, but a lot of people have reported it disappearing recently, unfortunately

[left perch]

Can I do it over and over again, or can I add only 1 joinery, and reforging again replaces the old one?

[knotty moon]

Yep, the second case.
Only one Joinery at a time, but you can reforge any time you want.
(Blessed Joinery again being the special case, which require the weapon to be rank 30)

[left perch]

welp

just reforged the same weapon 5 times before the edit on the comment....

[maiden furnace]

found it

[crystal tusk]

How do you increase bonds with ancestors like Tuvalkane?

[plucky junco]

tuvalkane you can increase by crafting things you haven't crafted before

for verminia, it's making dyes

those two are the only ones you can increase right now, i think

[left perch]

How does one fast travel? Walking around is getting old

[plucky junco]

fast travel isn't in the game yet 🥹

[vestal crystal]

I wonder how they are gonna implement more bond levels like are we all just gonna immeadiatly unlock bond 10 cause we have crafted everything already?

[crystal tusk]

Thank you.

[crystal tusk]

summon the kaithe

[errant root]

Start running, fast travel is for tourists.

[crystal tusk]

Hello. Which proper channel to give suggestions to developers?

[plucky junco]

should be this one: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[crystal tusk]

Thank you.

Yesterday, I met Avakot's people and entered their hidden cave. It is a faction like the Roses, but the weird things is none of them could be interacted. Why?

[clear rapids]

whats the best way to get monalite and saphiline?

[halcyon thicket]

Only one NPC can be interacted with atm, avakot himself

[vivid lotus]

you may need to craft a sproutfolk seed to interact with avakot:
https://wiki.avakot.org/Alca's_Children

[crystal tusk]

I see. Thank you.

[vestal crystal]

They removed the NPC interactions with silent rose too no?

[crystal tusk]

No. I can still talk to NPCs in the Rose Enclave.

[vestal crystal]

Oh weird last time I went I couldn’t interact with any of them but that was a while ago tbh

[plucky junco]

you need the corresponding totem for any of the factions to talk to the leaders at the enclaves

[halcyon thicket]

hey anything new about the q&a steve mentioned yesterday?

[vestal crystal]

Yeah no I mean the lesser NPC’s around the silent rose

[plucky junco]

i only remember having one guy with an ambient interaction there, i haven't checked if he still does it 😅

[vestal crystal]

There was an old lady that screamed Gruul at you 😂

Or something like that

[halcyon thicket]

was it Bug

[vestal crystal]

Yeah Bug

Love bug

[light dove]

anyone knows where to find soulsbane?

[plucky junco]

i think mostly in the corrupted swampy areas, but don't quote me on that

[light dove]

thx ill try

[lament hearth]

I freed animals and destroyed those pollution machines and did not get even 1 favour for the Avakot faction who told me to do that stuff... what is going on? 😄

[plucky junco]

if you've reached the cap for your current rank, you'll have to go back to the enclave before you can get more
or if you've been farming for a while and hit the daily cap of 16k, you might have to wait until tomorrow to get more

otherwise, if it's bugged, you can maybe try fixing it by relogging

[crystal tusk]

Dropped my suggestion in #1438224662344761345. I would to hear your thoughts about it.

[lament hearth]

I'm at 0 neutral and nothing changes reloging isn't changing anything either

[plucky junco]

it sounds like it might just be bugged in that case

[lament hearth]

Well RIP then

[plucky junco]

if you haven't already, i'd try to see if it happens consistently when you do more faction tales, and make a report about it here if there isn't one already: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[lament hearth]

I'm not sure if there is a prerequesit to it. I just fell ddown a hole and found a statue I was able to interact with and then found the ccamp

No idea if I have to do some quests before or whatever. I was just running arround

[knotty moon]

Just to confirm, you are doing Faction Tales? (procedurally generated quests marked with your faction icon)

[lament hearth]

Most likely not because the map isn't showing those faction things at all. I just thought opening the cages of the animals is enugh ^^

[plucky junco]

it does have to be those specific objectives

well, the "missions"

[knotty moon]

Ah, no, rep is only gained by doing Faction Tales, no other activity award it (yet).

[lament hearth]

Yeah but then I have 0 quests for it. That's a bit depressing ^^

[plucky junco]

if you have a fable active in your journal, it might be interfering with it

[knotty moon]

The Tales should start showing up after you talk to your faction leader the first time.
Reloging if they don't might solve it.

[plucky junco]

normally, they just show up as you wander around

[lament hearth]

I had those symbols once yes but they don't show up anymore

[fair pier]

yeh I've notice they don't always populate the instat you load in

[knotty moon]

They should be an icon with one to three stars under it (denoting length and reward tier).

[lament hearth]

Hm maybe it's a problem with the hosts progress? The friend I played with got a key a few days after, was hosting and never was in that camp. Maybe I need to drag him there for my... erm... his own good

[plucky junco]

multiplayer can definitely cause some weirdness to happen

if the host doesn't have faction tales unlocked, i think that makes it impossible for them to spawn

[lament hearth]

Just to be clear I don't have to do the the stag, wolf and bear before I should even be there or some other stepping stomes before?

[plucky junco]

to unlock the faction and join it, i think the torment stag is a prerequisite

[lament hearth]

Yeah but I lost it in single player as well

[knotty moon]

Stag should be the only one required, and I think even that you can skip if you go directly to the faction.
(Unless your faction is Silent Rose)

[lament hearth]

I killed the stag so no problem there

[plucky junco]

do you have a fable active in your journal?

[lament hearth]

nope i disabled them when you mentioned it

[plucky junco]

it doesn't matter if it isn't tracked, if it's in your journal, it might be causing a conflict

[lament hearth]

Ah okay then I need to do the wolf and the bear lol

[plucky junco]

that sounds like it's be the cause

[lament hearth]

But that's kind of... stupid isn't it? Why is content removed because I have a fable? Makes 0 sense

[plucky junco]

i think it's to prevent confusion or progression conflicts, but i'm just guessing

[lament hearth]

Well I just do the quests and see if something changes and if not I write feedback about it. Can't be helped.

[knotty moon]

You could also try untracking the Fable and see if that makes them show up.

[lament hearth]

Isn't working. I just run it down and see what happens

So those faction quests aren't thosethe ones where enemys make this zone you can't leave and have to fight and then you open the cages after you killed everything?

[plucky junco]

no, those are just random encounters

[clear rapids]

Side question, whats the best way to get monalite and saphiline?\

[plucky junco]

apart from buying them from avakot, i think from chests and bosses, but the odds still aren't fantastic
don't quote me on that though

[quick igloo]

Is there a way to get dyes for verminia yet? I reset my "random" outfit colors and i want to cry

[clear rapids]

@plucky junco Are the buys from avakot different for each players world. (As in, can i go to someone elses world to see if its a different drop)

[plucky junco]

it should be the same for everyone, i'm pretty sure

and i don't think you can buy more of the stock by checking in someone else's world

[clear rapids]

that sucks

ty\

[wispy cosmos]

Lychee, what's 1+1?

[plucky junco]

is that a trick question?

[wispy cosmos]

No I promise

[plucky junco]

i think it's 2, last time i checked 🤐

but don't quote me on that

[wispy cosmos]

Yup you're right

[plucky junco]

i'm relieved 😇

[wispy cosmos]

Is there something I can quote you on?

[plucky junco]

anything you like, if you don't take it out of context

[knotty moon]

take it out of context
-Lychee

[plucky junco]

i was actually hoping someone would make that joke 😇

[turbid summit]

last night I was fighting the v stag. I died and was flying back to my body right into his grab attack. literally no chance to respond, he saw me coming and grabbed me the instant I rezzed. :/

I regret picking sirin. the backstabs are fun and the spells are useful against human enemies, even the big dudes. but the non-human enemies can't be backstabbed and the spells are worthless against minibosses. I can't buff my dmg, so I'm stuck kiting and plinking.

[knotty moon]

1 should still be useful, 2 should be useful (last I checked it was bugged), only 3 is useless to backstab immune foes (not all sub bosses are).

But yeah, I get it, not the most useful at raising damage.
Fantastic for focus farming with pickpocket though.

[golden lily]

is there a way to see gameplay time on soulframe?

[smoky crater]

not without some external thing recording it atm

[knotty moon]

If you have an AMD GPU the Adrenalin thingy should have the play time recorded.

[golden lily]

nah im nvidia. all good

[smoky crater]

mfw it reset multiple times for me and sometimes didn't even count it

[boreal dove]

wait what ? Soulframe doesnt show in my Adrenaline

fires Adrenalin

-_-

[smoky crater]

[smoky crater]

you do have to manually add the Soulframe.x64 to adrenalin yeah

[boreal dove]

i was already up to date yesterday and the update was released on the 13th......so the software is just broken. RIP Adrenaline

you guys good ? your adrenaline opens ?

[knotty moon]

makes note to not update

Yeah, it ain't giving me trouble, made a couple of videos with it earlier too.

[smoky crater]

ye 0 issues for me too

[knotty moon]

I'm on 25.10.2, if it matters.

[smoky crater]

i'm on 25.11.1

[boreal dove]

went device manager, right clicked on my GPU and hit Update drivers and it worked

[smoky crater]

wew

[ancient narwhal]

unsula vs royal tines which of them worth a joinery?

[smoky crater]

both

but royal tines is the better one of the 2

[boreal dove]

where do add the soulframe to adrenaline Wagiii ?

ok i have it i think

[smoky crater]

a

ye just "Gaming" tab from the top, then the 3 vertical dots in the top right and "Add A Game"

[boreal dove]

yeah i just cant find appdata anywhere im so lost with this win11 interface, i hate it sooooooo much

[smoky crater]

i don't remember if i installed it in the default location but for me it's not in appdata
(the Soulframe.x64)

[boreal dove]

this is where the shortcut sends me for file location

and the name of the folder before that isn't even the name of my User so im so confused

[smoky crater]

i mean ye the Launcher is there for me too but not the Soulframe.x64

[boreal dove]

mine is in Public, one folder before

but i cant even find appdata anywhere, the name of my Computer is the name of my old computer that i never installed Soulframe on, nothing makes sense right now

oh appdata is hidden thats why. lmao @ windows 11

[smoky crater]

at the top in file explorer there's that "Show" dropdown menu and at the bottom there should be another "Show" which should have "Hidden somethingsomething" idk i don't have windows in english

pretty sure it was hidden by default in windows 10 too

[mortal cove]

it’s been hidden by default since vista

[boreal dove]

we did it, thanks for the help !

[smoky crater]

[boreal dove]

(dont judge my WF hours, i have 1300 hours in mission)

i can't wait for Cogah omggggggg

Sarah got me so hyped during the devstream, you could hear her excitement about it

[halcyon thicket]

do we have the mockery rune decipher thread here or not yet

found this and wondered if we have any info on it

[smoky crater]

that just looks like one of the revive shrines

[edgy sigil]

tines carried me through the fables

[knotty moon]

As far as I know, not yet.

[tame holly]

The gameplay is buggy. I've read all the solutions on the forum, but it didn't help. What should I do now? Can they reset my character or the quest?

[smoky crater]

have you gone to Nightfold?

[knotty moon]

What is the problem exactly?

[tame holly]

I can't play the flute for the statue, the cave won't open.

[smoky crater]

ah ok

[tame holly]

I can't press F.

[knotty moon]

Relog didn't work?

[smoky crater]

so. think north-ish from the flutes location, you'll find Fort Curlail, there's a dungeon entrance just south from there, under a large tree. go thru that dungeon and then follow bird

[edgy sigil]

that's a bug. you went too far in the quest. I encountered that as well, you need to relog

[tame holly]

no, it's already 5 solution, but didnt help

[edgy sigil]

you're supposed to be blocked by nimrod on your way to the door.

[knotty moon]

Twice iirc?

[smoky crater]

yes

[edgy sigil]

yes

[smoky crater]

which is why i said this, it's likely to actually make the fable continue

[tame holly]

here it is

[dapper rain]

follow poppet to cave?

[bitter quartz]

Can we start over? I mean just delete our character and start again from scratch? I have come back after several months and made some stupid choices. Essentially, I am locked into the Bear quest with no actual power to get through it. The faction stories are unavailable while it's left unfinished. I just want to not die constantly

[smoky crater]

no

currently no way to reset your account

[tame holly]

yeah, i logged off, i try logged in, cage is invisible, but i can press f, and the rat just run away to this statue. i try twice kill nimrod. but now no nimrod.

[smoky crater]

then try this

@tame holly 👆

[edgy sigil]

have you tried inviting people from recruiting to help?

[tame holly]

thats a good idea

[smoky crater]

that was a response to another person

[bitter quartz]

I have been told that it messes with quests sometimes, so I have been avoiding it

[edgy sigil]

yk it might help them too, it might force reset their quest state

[smoky crater]

only for clients, hosts usually don't get afflicted with those kinds of bugs

[edgy sigil]

surely a better risk than being stuck there indefinitely

[plucky junco]

it's less likely to blow up if you're host, but i would avoid trying to introduce multiplayer to get around a bug, personally

[smoky crater]

but you know... could also try what i mentioned 3 times already which most likely would fix it

[plucky junco]

and yeah, definitely try going through the tree if you haven't already

[bitter quartz]

That is true. Alright, I will give it a shot tomorrow.

[dapper rain]

i am the poppet. brewer trouble shooting hobby...inv Pain_Of_Icarus
i get u sorted
wagii right.

[dapper rain]

what ur ingame name?

[fossil dragon]

Uhm, I have been running around for hours and I just realized the missions aren't spawning.

[dapper rain]

have bear fable?

[fossil dragon]

The faction tale thingy.

[fossil dragon]

I do. It is blocking everything else?

[tame holly]

johetmegegykeksz

😄

[dapper rain]

bear seem to tirn them off for some reason

[boreal dove]

server name should be the same as in game name

[fossil dragon]

Now, that's funny. Because I can't progress the bear tale either. Virminia didn't give me the tap. I thought I would go do something else for the time being lol

[tame holly]

i accapted

[edgy sigil]

have you pressed f on a tree with sap

[fossil dragon]

Yeah, can't activate it. It's crossed out.

[edgy sigil]

1. get verminia in nightfold
2. relog to refresh your game state
3. click on tree with sap
4. verminia goes "owo what's that bring it here"
5. go back to nightfold

[fossil dragon]

Re-log worked. Thanks lol

[hot laurel]

в игре до сих пор кривой русский перевод?

[knotty moon]

English please.

[edgy sigil]

(is the Russian translation still broken in the game)

yk tbf they have an English screen name they should have posted in English lol

[knotty moon]

I don't believe they are doing translations yet, there's just the framework.

[boreal dove]

i hope they hire me for a french-canadian translation, i would cook so hard

[smoky blade]

Guys i have 2 questions if u dont mind

[noble stratus]

Are there any particularly good places to farm archers/hunters? I want to get precklies

[smoky blade]

First about weapon arts for bow for example if there is 2 Bows only how would u level up the bow weapon art?

[knotty moon]

I used to farm them in the Glades first room, then going back out and reentering.
Not sure they still drop it though, might have to go to a lvl 15+ dungeon.

[knotty moon]

Every unique weapon you level up gives Arts points to the type they belong to (up to 5 at rank 30).
So for bow there are a total of 15 possible points.

[smoky blade]

Yes but with one weapon only u cant level it up until 15? even after that weapon reaches lvl 3

30 does that the weapon still go up?

weapon art still goes up even after ur weapon reaches rank 30 or it does it not gain any xp because when i looked it up they said to level up different weapon from the same category to rank 30 to increase weapon art but there is only 2 bows in game i guess

[knotty moon]

Nope, you need to level up all weapons to get all the point.
Lvl cap for weapon is 30, at that point it will give you 5 Arts points (I don't remember exactly when the points are), for the rest you need the other bows.

[smoky blade]

Exactly why i asked the question brother

there is only 2 bows in game no?

[smoky crater]

3

Juniper, Blitzel, Thistle

[knotty moon]

Thistle, Juniper... checks the wiki and Blitzel.

[smoky blade]

i sold the thistle when i started game

xD

[boreal dove]

so the maximum you can get weapon arts for bows, RIGHT NOW, is 15

[smoky crater]

bruh

[smoky blade]

its not craftable for me i guess

[knotty moon]

Should be easy to get another.

[smoky crater]

it is

[plucky junco]

did you reach 30 before you sold it? 🥹

you can get more fragments from the silent rose enclave shop i believe

[knotty moon]

Specifically Thistle is sold by the Silent Rose faction.

[smoky blade]

Thanks a lot brothers

appreciate it ❤️

[smoky blade]

i couldnt get things from blacksmith so i sold it 🥲 didnt know i could increase weapon capacity

[knotty moon]

Don't sell Juniper though, that one can't be gotten back.
Or Duhk Halic.

[smoky blade]

I use juniper

[tame holly]

thank you very much for your help, it works now. you have to pay attention to who the host is. now I know

[smoky blade]

But i dont know how to get joinery to change from grace do people keep it in grace?

[tame holly]

this is a very good community

[smoky blade]

thats my second question m sorry for spaming u

[smoky crater]

need a Blessed By Saphene joinery for that

drops from high level "boss" type enemies

[edgy sigil]

I got my precklies from birdies bog while farming jaden caps for figment

[knotty moon]

To change attunement you need Blessed Joineries (Mora to switch to Courage, Saphene to switch to Grace, and Iridis to switch to Spirit).
They also need the weapon at rank 30, and they reset the rank of the weapon (the only Joinery that has those requirements).

[smoky blade]

I found iridis and saphene to me i play with pact orengall

is it better for me to play with spirit ?

our mora? idk the optimal

[smoky crater]

"optimal" isn't really needed unless you're minmaxing

[knotty moon]

There is nothing wrong on keeping it on Grace though, unless you want to min-max the abilities.

[noble stratus]

I'm afraid I understood only like 3 of these words 😅

[smoky blade]

i have a very weird question too i play juniper with orengall smites only appear to me in monsters not bosses we cant smite bosses?

[smoky crater]

important part: got precklies from Birdie's Bog (swampy area on the westcoast)

[noble stratus]

ohhh ok

[smoky crater]

only some bosses can be afflicted with smite yeah

not all of them

[knotty moon]

Precklies is a weapon.
Birdie's Bog is a location (southwestern marsh, a bit north of the corrupted area).
Jaden Caps is a flower/mushroom/stuff to pick up.
Figments are the dye packs.

[noble stratus]

ahhhh okey dokey

[edgy sigil]

I was here https://soulmap.avakot.org/P11?loc=birdies-bog

[noble stratus]

Tenks both

[edgy sigil]

I got precklies fragment from either a chest or an enemy here and I'm like "what are you doing here"

[fossil dragon]

Sheesh, the smith woman is bleak

[boreal dove]

i have a theory that we will be able to change her mood eventually

she will get better, i believe

[smoky crater]

that is something that was mentioned in uhhhh... either the tennocon 2023 or tennocon 2024 Soulframe part

that ranking up her bond would make her more confident

[knotty moon]

Hopefully.
remembers repairing Ordis reverting back to previous voice lines after the quest
Track record is not encouraging though.

[boreal dove]

i skipped those. I know some might think im not worthy but I didn't want to have spoilers before having the chance to play.