envoy-gathering

[compact talon]

Avakot is kill on sight in my lands

[stone cliff]

good.

[hushed rampart]

they still owe me dracs!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194774847503466526/1500812708260483143/3dgifmaker70819.gif

[charred crag]

but.... what if he's selling some sappheline

[viral ember]

ty fellah

[charred crag]

Avakot pact when

Dmg scales with how many dracs you currently own. No cap on it

[hushed rampart]

gosh literally ptw

[muted owl]

When he’s dead and blood has been paid

That being said, I’m not opposed to a Sproutfolk pact, just not in relation to Avakot.

[compact talon]

like the Handsome Jack class from BLTPS?

[stone cliff]

he wont even have any blood to pay me with once Im finsihed with him

[hushed rampart]

there seems to be a handful of fantasy games that have abilities that deal more damage with the amount of money you have

[stone cliff]

not again

I FIXED IT LAST TIME

[hushed rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-me-whe-the-when-the-me-when-me-when-the-me-me-the-when-me-the-me-the-when-gif-21875472

[quaint wharf]

Sproutfolk plushie when?

[stone cliff]

NOT FUNNY HELIX

[muted owl]

do it again

[quaint wharf]

NOT AKAVOT

[heady plinth]

capitalism

[muted owl]

I mean…https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440064763064221737

[stone cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153115423596879932/1507778818327187627/Untitled_design.gif

now it works

istg >:(

[hushed rampart]

still waiting on floopet plush

[quaint wharf]

Might be a hot take, I like Verminia

[muted owl]

Just need to get the SF marketing team onto that thread and they’ll have merch for years!

[compact talon]

May the Ode take you ratwife <3

[hushed rampart]

I also want those talismans they showed during the dev stream

[quaint wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358130800306032660/1507088984914792548/silentRoseSmall.gif

[compact talon]

https://tenor.com/view/soulframe-curse-of-ra-poseidon-gif-10294463109344853746

[hushed rampart]

I need to make more soulframe meme gifs

[muted owl]

See now every time I see this I think about what I did to fizzy and giggle a bit… it was an accident! But it was funny to watch

[compact talon]

who's fizzy?

and what did you do to em?

[muted owl]

Fizzyqueen, another envoy who posts art! I may or may not have accidentally gone to the nightfold when I invited them and…well, they got to experience the Deora water drop.

[hushed rampart]

ACHOO

[stone cliff]

LMAOP

[compact talon]

are you just waterboarding your guests gang?

[stone cliff]

that bug is so funny

[muted owl]

It wasn’t intentional!

[compact talon]

i thought we were the IRA, nope turns out some of us are CIA instead

[quaint wharf]

Seems about right for Helix actually

[muted owl]

Damn… thanks, I think?

[quaint wharf]

I mean... do you enjoy waterboarding your fellow envoy?

This is a judgement free zone

[muted owl]

Did I get joy out of the moment? Maybe. But it was purely accidental and hasn’t repeated since.

[hushed rampart]

man why are all these envoy's drowning? I thought me almost choking on water today was bad enough

[quaint wharf]

It was before we had swimming

[muted owl]

As someone who regularly chokes on water (and air) I feel this….

[quaint wharf]

This made me choke on my coffee from laughing

[white otter]

you mean no one has lived to tell the tale?

[quaint wharf]

Its the '<3' at the end for me

[muted owl]

As far as I’m aware, everyone I have ever gamed with remained alive after…

[stone cliff]

I mean, even tho Helix is mean whenever my gifs fail to load, I need to defend her since shes a fellow avakot hater >:)

we need to detrone avakot

[quaint wharf]

But I also want to drop kick that regatta cheating cabbage

[stone cliff]

oh I dont have any issues with regatta, actually I onyl remember losing 1 time to him lol

I just dislike him bc he calls me big legs or leggy

[dense wharf]

[muted owl]

#JusticeForMada

[stone cliff]

annoying piece of sjihudasjidajk

[charred crag]

a sproutfolk pact does actually feel like it would fit well

[white otter]

pfft. justice? more like judgement

[stone cliff]

and I can see in his eyes that he is EVIL

[dense wharf]

I love him

Give him a Claritin though

[stone cliff]

nah she sent her son to his certain death

[compact talon]

i wonder when we will be allowed onto the skykeeps

[stone cliff]

I may or not be the one killing the son but we aint talking about me lol

[compact talon]

i wanna raid one of them and beat up some ode on their ground

[charred crag]

We're all out here calling the Camel the capitolist.... Avakot is in the shadows

[muted owl]

I mean I’m not saying she’s a perfect mother, we just need justice for her voice lines getting cut.

[compact talon]

Both the Camel and the avocado will be dealt with harshly

[stone cliff]

LMAO

[vale idol]

woof, first crash I've ever had in Soulframe

[stone cliff]

nah the camel is a good boi

[muted owl]

If you haven’t already relogged, pull EE.logs and send to support.soulframe.com

[vale idol]

how do I pull EE.logs?

[muted owl]

Hang on I have a visual here somewhere….let me track it down…

[stone cliff]

the launcher lets you get them

[charred crag]

he gives us 24hrs of +virtues

[stone cliff]

get logs button

[muted owl]

Oh good because I legit couldn’t remember where I saved mine haha

[stone cliff]

XD

I just opened the launcher and took a pic

[muted owl]

I mean…valid. I’m not at my computer.

[vale idol]

I clicked get logs, and had it download the logs, what next?

[stone cliff]

those are the logs you usually need to report bugs

you can report it on a ticket or smth

[white otter]

for some more... specific or wacky bugs, not just any bugs

[warped pond]

where do i get more virtues apart from... the virtue point triangle, i somehow got 3+ on my virtues but idk where its coming from

[stone cliff]

tbh I dont know why they wanted the logs lol

[compact talon]

talismans, feyble completions etc

[compact talon]

to throw in the fire and keep themselves warm ofc :)

[stone cliff]

2 main quests let you select a permanent point to the virtue you want

then MR gives you 1 point per MR

then talismans

theres also pact passives

[warped pond]

ahhhhhh alright alright thanks LOL that clears things up

oh yeah... this explains all of it LMAO

[unique ermine]

Say no more, who do we elect as alcas children faction leader?

[stone cliff]

alora

we free her and she leads

[unique ermine]

Clearly we should save our mom from the spellsong to lead the children

[quaint wharf]

Bromius

Love that guy

[hushed rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373529047652499456/1494957531792150618/bromis.gif

[hushed rampart]

his quest made me wanna give him a hug

I once knew a guy who had similar issues

[quaint wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-kermit-hug-kermit-the-frog-bear-hug-gif-21349261

[compact talon]

his dialogue choice had only one viable option and we all know it.

[wheat dune]

It was probably the most impactful quest for me so far

[hushed rampart]

yeah like that

[quaint wharf]

It was the quest that made me say "Yep I love this game"

[hushed rampart]

also every time I look at him I see the ikea bear

[quaint wharf]

Not proud to say I bounced wazzards head off the ground for what he did to Bromius and Synod will get much the same treatment

[compact talon]

i hope we and bromius get to tag team Synod

Orengall is cool and all but i love the bear more

[hushed rampart]

like a wresting match

[quaint wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/rko-wwe-wrestling-randy-orton-gif-15820595

[hushed rampart]

I also head cannon that Bromius likes tea parties

[compact talon]

"HERES THE ENVOY WITH THE MOONSTEEL CHAIR"

[compact talon]

head canon? sir thats the canon material and i will fight anyone who contests it.

[quaint wharf]

I will 3rd this. "Devs make it canon and supa wholesome"

[compact talon]

tbf they could do it, if they lean into the feyble angle heavily as they already do then we can definitely pull off a serious tea party :3

[quaint wharf]

I can already see it now, Bromius has a tea party set up in the social hub and theres just dozens of envoy around him

including me

[mild mango]

you can get Virtue points when you choose the specific virtues in the upper lines in the pack upgrades

[compact talon]

call that "the Alcan tea party", no taxation without representation type

[quaint wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-inform-expose-share-do-tell-gif-2024909708794968905

[hollow harness]

This game confuses me so much xD
I never know what i am doing or what i should do xD

[hushed rampart]

press g

[warped pond]

wait... my weapons share these things? like other weapons can use the upgraded ones as well?

[olive star]

weapons that can fit that totem, yes

[charred crag]

yep :)

those are separate items in your inventory theyre not tied to a weapon

[olive star]

totems are like mods in warframe if you play, they are shared across the weapon type

[compact talon]

in the same weapon category yes, for example Wuuther and Navalha share the longsword totems

[warped pond]

ahhhhh alright alright sickkk makes things easier

[analog plover]

-# …djungelskög, my beloved

[hushed rampart]

I have one btw

[waxen rock]

👋

[ripe kestrel]

Can someone tell me the actual daily standing cap and the amount of standing we get for each faction tale, please ?

[undone kite]

tales scale with level and tiers

[ripe kestrel]

Yeah but what the minimum/maximum for each tier ?

[rustic lava]

For daily limit i have no idea, and the higher the enemy level the more standing you get

[ripe kestrel]

Couldn't find anything about minimum/maximum value for each tale tier on the internet

[rustic lava]

i think i got around 600 for t3 tale on levels 30 so its a grind but i dont mind

[wheat dune]

16k daily limit

[ripe kestrel]

that small amount ?

[wheat dune]

You can go past that cap with item turn ins

[ripe kestrel]

yeah i know the tokens doesn't count in the cap

[wheat dune]

And you get so much of those tokens from just playing the game

But yes daily cap is 16k

[ripe kestrel]

it's not for me personally since i maxed all faction, i just stack tokens until i am capped on them

[wheat dune]

Kinda surprised you didn't know this already then

[ripe kestrel]

i maxed them when it was 5k for each level and the amount we're different + no tokens

[wheat dune]

Valid

Honestly the 16k a day feels fine to me since the tokens go past limit

[heady gale]

Is there anyone who still lacks a key?

Or do you know someone who wants a key?

[viral ember]

hey so i bought a prelude do i sign in or do something for it i want the lil prelude badge

[hardy oyster]

Like, on Discord?

[warped hill]

how i get the prelude inv?

[hardy oyster]

Because that's long gone, it was only available to anyone who got into the old private discord

[hardy oyster]

#envoy-gathering message

[viral ember]

ohhh i see, okok but anyway happy to be part of this journey with y'all

[hardy oyster]

Closest stream for getting a code is the 26th

[warped hill]

need to pay?

[surreal basalt]

The message literally lists other options than paying

[hardy oyster]

No, read the post, 2k invites get sent to random people who have signed up weekly and you can get a code by watching an official twitch stream with a linked account

[warped hill]

alr thx

[feral fractal]

There's a daily cap?

Man...

[zinc forge]

unfortunatly yes

[feral fractal]

Dangit Steve

You know we don't like the daily cap

[white otter]

Rather be done with the grind in 1 day and then complain about not having anything left to do?

[plush sundial]

Algum BR ai pra me tirar uma duvida?

[surreal basalt]

DM

[drifting flicker]

Is there a way i can get @‘d when there’s a hotfix or patch?

[wheat dune]

If they really wanted to they can just farm the tokens anyway. If anything it's a soft cap all things considered

So I don't see the cap as an issue at all

[white otter]

True

[white otter]

You get @ by default

[surreal basalt]

i dont think they ping for those yet but there is #soulframe-news #1439842825180155904

[drifting flicker]

Thanks

[white otter]

For actual big updates anyway

Hotfixes no. But you'd see the #1439842825180155904 channel get the brighter visual of "new unread stuff" anyway

[drifting flicker]

I’ve been watching them I was just wondering if there was a hotfix @ role or something

[white otter]

Nop

No roles for that stuff

[feral fractal]

Yes

[white otter]

bruh

[heady gale]

I’ll give you a key.

Actually who wants a key? I have 10.

Do you know someone who wants a key?

[tawny cove]

i highkey need 3 keys

for me n my friends

[heady gale]

Sure

I’ll DM them right now.

[tawny cove]

how do i put them in btw

[white otter]

each person redeems 1 at https://soulframe.com/promocodes

[feral fractal]

The daily limit on faction currency was an unpopular system in Warframe as is, especially considering low MR players could only get a couple thousand per day, while ranking up to Rank 5 took roughly the same amount as it does in Soulframe.

Its nice to know that the low MR experience with factions in Soulframe is better, but they should honestly just drop it...

[heady gale]

Hm… no idea, I would imagine from the website.
I’m 90% sure.

[white otter]

couple thousand? the starting daily cap is like what 15k tho no?

in warframe*

[tawny cove]

i found it dw

[white otter]

and like... here in SF, 5 days to max out a single faction? how is that bad?

[heady gale]

So how many do you want?

[white otter]

especially considering you can go past the 16k cap with the rep items without limit

[feral fractal]

They might've changed it. I've been over Rank 30 in Warframe for literal years at this point lmao

[tawny cove]

3 please

[white otter]

been the same afaik for forever

yeah. starts at 16K in warframe, same as here. with 500 increase per mastery rank in WF

even at MR10, that's already 21k

[warped hill]

I want yes

Really?

[feral fractal]

Fair enough then. Perhaps I'm just being greedy lmao

Nevermind this old man. I'm just yelling at the clouds.

[heady gale]

Just one?

[hollow crag]

[somber portal]

first block of maxed out weapons. i have more done, this is just whats back to back completed

[silk glade]

have any keys left ? i just need 1 for me .

[violet knot]

whats the max lvl?

[heady gale]

I’ll dm it

[frosty ore]

99

[somber portal]

Max for weapons currently is 30

Player (mastery / Envoy rank) is about 18.5 i think

Sorry for the semi-late response. Been farming Rovgot for the 2 weapons there and ive gotten nothing

[nocturne dagger]

i still have 8 more weapons to level

[somber portal]

I have quite a few

18 I think? Somewhere around that

I dont know

[random ridge]

Hello

[old bone]

did the multiplayer get worse?, i keep getting migrated from my friend everytime he uses his sparrow or goes to his nightfold

[somber portal]

Odd, I havent had that issue before, and im in a party a solid 80% of the time

[old bone]

i also found a funny bug where Duelo's 3 spawns as a enemy that me and my friend can hit

[white otter]

Ngl... Slightly funny

[somber portal]

That one is known. The duo duelo isnt supposed to be targetable, but for some reason it is

[old bone]

i think i fixed the issue

he's from north america and im from South Africa, ones i changed my region to his region our connection became stable

[white otter]

Wat...

How would that even...

[old bone]

i went into my settings and changed my region from Europe to North America and i stopped having any migration issues

[white otter]

How would that change anything

Game pls

[old bone]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ghoodgirlmagic-magic-ghood-girl-9r75ILTJtiDACKOKoY

[swift anchor]

so whats up with the new island?

[somber portal]

New island?

[somber portal]

Oh, thats not new

[swift anchor]

there is nothin gon it except the world tree

[somber portal]

Yup, unused at the moment. Future content

[swift anchor]

so more like a placeholder or micro-teaser?

[somber portal]

Way more annoying to get to before swimming. Had to use a hole in the invisible wall next to mirifuir and run all the way there

[somber portal]

Placeholder really. Nothing to tease there besides we will go there eventually

[swift anchor]

oh didnt knew you could get there before the swimming got implemented

[somber portal]

15 minutes of straight running

Or what felt like 15 minutes at least

[compact talon]

fellas how do i get more virtue lithes again?

[heady gale]

Anyone want a Soulframe beta key or keys?

[white otter]

Not beta

[full seal]

hi everyone, im sure this has been asked before but do all the envoy hour streams on twitch give access codes?

[heady gale]

It’s in beta rn isn’t it?

[somber portal]

Pre-alpha

[heady gale]

Oh still?

[somber portal]

Yup

[white otter]

They do yes

[somber portal]

Probably beta when we no longer are in preludes/invintation only

[heady gale]

I played it over a year ago, and recently got back into it.

[full seal]

awesome, thank uuu

[somber portal]

Same

[white otter]

Maybe alpha when the game's available on steam but yeah far off from beta still

[somber portal]

Iirc one if the goals for this year is to get it on steam

[stone cliff]

yep

specially when beta = released game for DE lol

warframe is in beta still

[somber portal]

Dark Sector isnt

[stone cliff]

yeah it should come to steam soonish, dunno if they will keep the code thing for access or not tho

[heady gale]

Anyone want an acces code?

[river cradle]

Oh, I could use one. 👀

[heady gale]

I’ll dm it

[somber portal]

That reminds me, I should check to see if message requests hid any dms from me

[maiden cedar]

Nox now thats a familiar name 😉

[somber portal]

There are a lot of Noxes in yhe server

[white otter]

6 total

And then a few variations

[maiden cedar]

you dont play warframe by any chance and are in the ordo clan?

[pine narwhal]

They might just use the request access thingy from Steam and/or have us to use our accounts to play

[somber portal]

I play warframe, my clan is Seraph Order

Well, its not mine, but its the one im in

[maiden cedar]

i havent changed clans in over 8 years even tho the clan is dead

[stone cliff]

we will always need an account'

warframe still does

[maiden cedar]

i guess they let ut connect at one point

[white otter]

Ye the soulframe account will exist forever, it'll just get linked to your steam

[somber portal]

I csnt wait to be able to log in with steam. Not a fan of inputting password every time

[maiden cedar]

password manager and copy paste 😉

or a macro

[somber portal]

Still dont wanna do ot

[maiden cedar]

thats fair

[urban bramble]

👉 👈

[swift anchor]

i also still have some

[urban bramble]

👀

[swift anchor]

about 8 i thikn are still unused

[urban bramble]

may i perchance get one :3c

[somber portal]

I gave away 5 yesterday

[heady gale]

I’ll dm

[urban bramble]

[tropic meteor]

anyone hosting a cogah run?

[white otter]

in #looking-for-group maybe 👀

[tropic meteor]

didnt see that channel!

[vale idol]

alright yeah I will send that support ticket, crash duplicated the next time I got on Soulframe

I would send EE.log, right?

sent EE.log and EE.cfg just for sure

[median swift]

I have like 25 access codes if anyone ever needs one, please just ask me🙏🏽

[undone kite]

How'd you get so many

[random prism]

Founders, watching streams.

I had a bunch built up until I threw them all at a raffle.

[median swift]

I keep stocking up on them but never have the opportunity to give them away

So I’m just sending this out to get rid of them and let some people experience peak for free🤷🏽‍♂️

The more the merrier

[feral fractal]

Where can you see how many Soulframe codes you have?

[random prism]

Your user info on the soulframe website.

Account management, yeah.

[somber portal]

Only missing 4 weapons now

The 2 rovgot, bromius cleaver, and one of the fencing weapons. Can't remember their name

[stone cliff]

I never let mine accumulate much but total I prob had 20+ codes aswell

my max codes at once was 12 I think

it was around the time founders came out

[peak veldt]

does anyone know if i can give my friends access to soulframe?

[nocturne dagger]

all current weapons leveled

[somber portal]

You can! Assuming you have extra codes. You can view them under account info on the website iirc

[somber portal]

Congrats! If I may ask, what does the drop rate feel like for the sword & shield / cleaver from rovgot?

Ive spent a few hours in there and got nothin, feels really low for both

[urban bramble]

i keep accidentally holding tab when fighting instead of Q ugh

[somber portal]

What does tab do?

[urban bramble]

nightfold

and for some reason you can go there mid combat

[somber portal]

Weird, never lets me into nightfold mid combat

Wish i would, so many times ive wasted mockeries cause my weapons are maxed and I cant swap them out yet

[stone cliff]

sword and shield drops easily

the cleaver might need a couple tries

I got the 2 shield frags in the same dungeon run after they fixed the drops

[nocturne dagger]

I got both of them in under 20 runs, I got the sword and shield first (but it felt like the cleaver was faster to get since i had 2/3 fragments before the sword and shield drops came in)

[stone cliff]

I dont think they messed with them again so it should drop easy

[somber portal]

I could buy the 4 weapons i need but thats 960 arcs. Not worth it

[urban bramble]

idk the game is a little buggy clearly but thats what early access is for ig :3

[stone cliff]

dont

dont buy weaps not worth it

[somber portal]

Ive only bought avex cause screw organ grind

[stone cliff]

the only one worth buying would be gath but even that one isnt worth it

[urban bramble]

like uhhh i lost the ability to sprint at some point so i had to restart the app, and also i started getting my entire screen covered for dialog sequences so i had to restart the app again lol

[stone cliff]

avex drops so easily lol

[sturdy ridge]

never worth it, not worth it to even speed up crafts, save arcs for loadout and inventory, or cosmetics

[stone cliff]

wth never had those bugs?

[stone cliff]

yep this 100%

[urban bramble]

look in #gameplay-discussion

[stone cliff]

buying weapons is legit paying to not play

[nocturne dagger]

I have to relevel the gath cause they decided to add the not needing to re-level after i did it :)

[stone cliff]

some annoying farms its whatever thats why I mentioned gath

but with trading possibly coming soonish I wouldnt buy the weaps lol

[stone cliff]

HUH

are your resolution settings + Hud area well configed?

[somber portal]

One more code gone. Almost out

[frosty ore]

Very important information:
Pineapples do in fact not grow on trees.
-# pizza though is another story.

[white otter]

pizza grows on trees too if you're dedicated enough

wait you said not.... anyways i stand behind my statement

[queen pier]

had ~25 avex and 17 of the sword (fragments) before i finished the wazzard set

[urban bramble]

so one of my little ability things i have is called uhh spectre strike where im supposed to perfect dodge melee attacks and in return 1 get one supercharged attack right

[white otter]

yeeeees

[urban bramble]

but idk if its just a client side bug where my dodges just dont register at all but i could only get it to work the first time i tried it

[white otter]

gotta dodge right before the attack lands and then do a light attack that's it

[urban bramble]

now no matter what i do it never procs, it feels like there is absolutely no i-frames whatsoever

[white otter]

are you solo?

[urban bramble]

yeah

[white otter]

i mean...

it's all about the timing of the dodge

[urban bramble]

earlier i lost the ability to sprint to some random bug

[white otter]

that's a known bug yeah

[urban bramble]

and the ability to use the little assassins creed eagle vision

and the ability to see anything during dialog

[white otter]

that... might also be a known bug

wat

[urban bramble]

idk when i have the game open for more than like 45 minutes it starts breaking lol

[white otter]

that 3rd one i haven't heard of before ngl

[urban bramble]

#gameplay-discussion message

[white otter]

wild

[urban bramble]

like during this whole deal i could still move and attack, like i could hear my character responding to my inputs

[white otter]

but yeah for perfect dodge it's all about dodging right before you get hit

[urban bramble]

i have been doing this obviously

[white otter]

hmmm... uno momento i yoink an example

[urban bramble]

but as i said it feels like the dodge has absolutely no i frames at all, it literally only did anything the actual first time i tried

[manic sonnet]

feel like i shouldnt be offered these tales when guy is on cooldown

[white otter]

an example of what a perfect dodge would look like

ignore my lack of ability to actually do it sometimes... it's 3am..

[urban bramble]

yeah no i dodge when i hear the grunt and it just hits me anyways

[viral kiln]

when is the game comin out

[white otter]

are you dodging too late maybe?

[white otter]

not anytime soon

years off

[urban bramble]

ive tried dodging at all kinds of intervals

[viral kiln]

oh 🥲 i will wait

[white otter]

[white otter]

i mean it's playable already if you've got access but full release is still ways away

[urban bramble]

the last time an mmorpg studio poured all of their resources into a side project they lost billions and shut down their main money maker

(destiny 2)

genuinely such an odd decision to shut down d2 instead of marathon, marathon was pretty much a flop and genuinely has a smaller playerbase than d2

[white otter]

i mean.... D2 was already down in the pits with the active playercount

couple days ago barely above 10k on Steam, after the announcement it went back to 16k peak

[queen hearth]

K

[white otter]

granted marathon was doing basically the same numbers

[manic sonnet]

its fun and probably no wipes til full launch

[white otter]

one of the letters of all time that one yes

[white otter]

plan is for no resets yeah

tho... i can't say that i wouldn't find it slightly funny if they did do one

[urban bramble]

still had more players than marathon lol

[manic sonnet]

i will be devastated if they take my moonsteel mace and million dracs

[urban bramble]

honestly they should have released D4 by now

[white otter]

only in the past few days since the announcement 👀

[urban bramble]

activision gave bungie a perfect success formula and they threw it away so they could go bankrupt in 6 years

[white otter]

i mean yeah...

[urban bramble]

d2 should have ended at shadowkeep, d3 shouldve started with beyond light and ended with final shape, but instead they removed all the content that meade d2 great and started releasing uninspired garbage seasonal content and battle passes

d2 has less content in 2021-2023 than it had in 2020(pre sunset)

[urban bramble]

closed and reopened the game and suddenly its working :(

[white otter]

lol

tbf you shouldn't need the Spectre strike combat art to be able to do perfect dodges

[urban bramble]

can i fast travel

walking everywhere is gonna get old fast

[white otter]

after you complete The Waste Bear

[olive star]

fast travel is fairly limited tho

[manic sonnet]

you get like 2-6 fast travel tokens a day after a certain quest

[urban bramble]

im currently stuck on BOB(Blessing Of Battle) because i cant find a totem for the only kind of weapon i have rn

[white otter]

the totems you get is just random ye

[urban bramble]

it would be nice if these tutorial level quests provided me with the item i need to cmoplete them

[white otter]

tho the first totem you get should be for your currently equipped weapon

[urban bramble]

no

my weapon is a funny magic staff, my totems are for uhhh, 2 bow, 2 of whatever this image is, 1 dagger, 1 club, 1 longsword, and 1 axe looking thing

[dull fog]

guys

am lost on a quest .-. i neeed help also where can i give feedback to the dev team ?

[urban bramble]

also i didnt get the rune associated with my weapon for some reason until the end of that undercity quest

[olive star]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345 or forums

[white otter]

that's intended

[dull fog]

thanks mate

[white otter]

nice reply

[urban bramble]

yeah but i kinda just had 2 other runes

[olive star]

wagii stealing replies, as always

[white otter]

mhm. the one you're intended to get from that part you get after exiting the undercity

[dull fog]

can anyone vc?

so that i can stream to explain my issue lol

[slow acorn]

not in this discord

[urban bramble]

finally bro

10th totem and i just now get one i can use

[random prism]

Oh don't worry you'll be collecting many more.

Totems are a big part of a weapon's power.

[white ginkgo]

One more rat and then I have three of them all

[random prism]

And there are a lot of them.

[urban bramble]

obviously

[random prism]

I did this cus I had the harmony sitting around lol.

It took... a long time. Not collecting them, just clicking.

[white ginkgo]

Only thing stopping me after that is the 1.2m harmonies I still need :)

[random prism]

Upgrading. Over, and over, and over, and over.

[urban bramble]

that doesnt make it any less annoying that im stuck on some quest cause i need a specific type of totem but cant get it

[random prism]

Lord they need to add batch mechanics.

For releasing too.

For releasing primarily.

Letting dozens go one by one for several totems was agony.

[somber portal]

One code remains

[white ginkgo]

I'll take it, just so the new players can't have it.

[random prism]

Lmao.

[white ginkgo]

I forgot I had this image

[random prism]

Drat, only recently hit 2m.

[somber portal]

4 rovgot 1 cenotaph frag

This is gonna take a hot minute

[manic sonnet]

do motes while u farm it so u dont have to do it 50 more times for motes x3

[somber portal]

For wha?

[manic sonnet]

theres like motes inside the dungeon that are a pain to get and take a buncha runs but they count towards mastery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5zIFr_n9MI

i farmed weapon and wound up having to do dungeon like 15x more for these for mastery

[urban bramble]

how do i get scrap metals :3

probably underground actually

[somber portal]

Weapon racks found around the world. Dermak Undercity has a lot of them

[urban bramble]

oh

i havent been smashing anything that doesnt glow qwq

ive seen so many i could hwve a lot of metal by now grr

[somber portal]

They do glow, when using your faesense or whatever its called

And now i have rovgot weapons. Just bromius cleaver and espedarta rapier

[daring magnet]

invisible barrier around here wtf

[stone cliff]

didnt know about this

thx

also great vid @thorn brook

really good quality overall

[somber portal]

So I gotta farm vadagar bear and maestre

[daring magnet]

why is there an invisible wall around the end of khearnold siege?

[somber portal]

I dont wanna do either ngl

[urban bramble]

i mean glowy yellow like chests

[somber portal]

Oh without the faesense? Yeah that makes sense

[daring magnet]

what moron thought we needed to be locked in for the fight

[urban bramble]

[urban bramble]

why does this pop up sometimes what is it trying to tell me :3

[thorn brook]

Appreciate it! I do it for you guys 😁 you can also thank @carmine monolith as they gave me the idea!

[stone cliff]

I had no clue the armor affected spawn rates lol

[thorn brook]

Thank you for checking out that video too, means a lot ❤️

Yeah idk if the transmog does, but just in case I left it without to be sure

[white otter]

In the journal?

[urban bramble]

speaking of spawn rates

the enemy density at times kinda feels a bit uhh
obnoxious

[stone cliff]

tmr Ill give it a run lol

[daring magnet]

wasting my cogah potion, wasting my already leveled up cogah run

[urban bramble]

sometimes its at the top of the screen around some little dots

[white otter]

Oh when going to locations?

[stone cliff]

just imagine they have avakot's face

[white otter]

It shows how many of the histories spawned

[thorn brook]

That means you need to find a “history more” at that location! The floating gold ones

[stone cliff]

your inner power will make you destroy them in a frenzy

[urban bramble]

like ill find idk
2 civillians in an entire chunk if the map
and like 40+ soldiers

[stone cliff]

I think DE is being careful with npc density for now

most densed spot is what? miri?

[white otter]

I mean yeah no reason to have a lot of the villager npc's since they dont do anything

Or talkin about actual enemy density? 👀

[stone cliff]

bc dungeons have a lot of enemies but in different rooms

[white otter]

They definitely did up that with 14.5 a lot

[stone cliff]

general density

man would be cool to add stuff to the npcs like an mmo

[daring magnet]

and apparently put a wall around the top of khearnold

[white otter]

That's been there for a while

[stone cliff]

man its so late lol

the time passed by so quick

[white otter]

Only 4am wdym

[stone cliff]

@white otter Im lvl 163 I think

[thorn brook]

Only 8pm what you mean lol

[stone cliff]

you know what Im talking about

[white otter]

Jesus...

[daring magnet]

WHY

[white otter]

Iunno

[daring magnet]

that makes khearnold a no go for cogah

my only choice is to relog

[stone cliff]

lets just say that its the only game Ive been playing since I dont have anything interesting to play for now

or more interesting better said

[white otter]

I mean kinda same but 163 in that short of a time is nuts

[urban bramble]

like theyre absolutely everywhere and i can barely walk 10 meters without having to fight another patrol

[white otter]

O ya

[urban bramble]

and i cant just run past them either because theyre just as fast as me

[white otter]

In a way i like it but it does sometimes become a bit.... Much

[urban bramble]

and sometimes they spawn a box around me so im forced to fight them

[white otter]

Lol

[stone cliff]

Ive done most of the stuff, need to do the races then Ill get the golden wristband lol

[white otter]

I just got that today

[urban bramble]

especially when i csnt fast travel and have to walk everywhere

[stone cliff]

honestly if I didnt procrastinate today I couldve gotten it today lol

Ill get it tmr 100% tho

[daring magnet]

I'ma make a bug post but I know I'm gonna get a smartass comment saying "this is already a post on here"

[urban bramble]

or when im charming sn animal and get shot by an archer

[daring magnet]

well if doesnt show up in search then I'm making the post

[stone cliff]

anyway must sleep

[white otter]

I will warn... goliath will be pain if you play with any of the 3 highest difficulty levels

[stone cliff]

its 2am ;-;

[stone cliff]

I play at

expert? I think?

[white otter]

So 3rd highest ye

[stone cliff]

theres above average

[white otter]

I did it on pro and.... I hated every second of it

[stone cliff]

then highly skilled

I play on the next one

I think its expert no?

[white otter]

twice even in a row because an AI rubberbanded past me on the last straight after 21min of driving

[white otter]

Yes

[stone cliff]

I dont ramp up the difficulty too much bc bots have a "A 700" car in UI but stats wise they have a F S2 900 car

I got so fed up with 1 rally race that I just put difficulty down to do it

[white otter]

Ye have fun Goliath is a R class race

[stone cliff]

I have a fully tuned car perfect build and they have more speed and handling than me

[stone cliff]

F finally

[white otter]

[stone cliff]

Im tired of the lower classes

I cant go all out with the tuning XD

[white otter]

Nahnahnah lower class ones, C B and A especially are the most fun

Did find a very cool route i'll probably make a race for myself at some point... For like D or C class

[stone cliff]

oh that sounds nice

Ive been mostly doing all the content and stuff then Ill get to slowly explore

[white otter]

Ye i just ran into it while finding a barn

[thorn brook]

Have you tried Avowed? It’s like a newer Skyrim. The NPCs expressions are very bland but the voice acting is phenomenal. The story is really good too.

Hands down one of my favorite games

[white otter]

[thorn brook]

Set in the pillars of eternity universe

[stone cliff]

Ive heard about it

[white otter]

I did hear good stuff about it soome point iirc

[stone cliff]

I did think in buying crimson desert but I dont even know if my pc handles it well

so Ill wait for a while

[white otter]

Oh it will

[thorn brook]

I HIGHLY recommend it if you are looking for another ARPG style game.

[white otter]

Crimson runs on a potato

[stone cliff]

I have a potato

[thorn brook]

I wanna pick this up at some point too lol

[stone cliff]

Ill prob wait for a discount maybe?

[white otter]

What like a 2060 was it?

[stone cliff]

I didnt wait for a discount on forza 6 bc lets be honest, it barely goes into discount

[white otter]

Of the rtx kind

[stone cliff]

and when it goes it isnt even 50% off

[stone cliff]

yeah

a overheated 2060

[white otter]

Ye you gon be fine

[stone cliff]

even while undervolted

[white otter]

Should be in the 50's and 60's fps on low native 1080p

In some more... Rough places drops to 40's

[stone cliff]

I like my games at least at 72 fps+

story games I mean

[white otter]

Or... 30 even it seems

[stone cliff]

fps need at least 120-150 fps

[white otter]

Watchin a vid of it

[white otter]

Ye bit of a big ask from a 2060 that

[random prism]

I got a new laptop coming in tomorrow that I am excited about, ready to play Soulframe in even greater glory.

Somehow managed to snag a deal even in this godawful RAM economy.

[white otter]

Prebuilts and laptops arent probably that overpriced because of it yeah

[random prism]

I snagged a 5070 and 32 gigs of RAM for under 1,400 usd.

[stone cliff]

frame gen on a 2060 in crimson desert?

[white otter]

A full laptop for that?

[random prism]

Yeh.

[white otter]

Rather go with upscaling and then frame gen if needed but it does exist yes

[stone cliff]

oh I can get it easily

on the fps I play I mean

[white otter]

Oh that aint a bad price then yeah

[stone cliff]

this shouldnt be a flex but sadly it is..

[random prism]

Ikr?

[white otter]

For a full laptop not just a desktop 5070 and 32gb of ram 👀

[stone cliff]

oh a full laptop

[random prism]

Crazy to see 32 gigs come with for under like 1,800 nowadays.

[stone cliff]

nvm good price

I thought it was a desktop 5070 + 32 Gb ddr5

thats why I said it was a flex lol

it was a good price for that aswell

taking into consideration todays market

[random prism]

Nah, laptop, 5070, 32 gigs, uuuhhh, lemme check the CPU again. It isn't top of the line but far and above what I'll need and is known for running pretty cool which I like.

[white otter]

Nah that would've been a horrible deal

[random prism]

Core 9 270H.

[white otter]

Ye that aint bad at all

Ok now sleep... Closing in on 5am and the sun's up already

[stone cliff]

its the price here lol

a 5070 is around 700-800

32 gb ddr5 kits are around 500-600

eur, not dollars

anywya me go sleep

bai bai ._.

[grim musk]

What's the current consensus on the new loot system? Personally I think it's got a decent start going, there's a lot of issues but that's because we're experiencing this stuff early and of course in a sorta alpha.

[white ginkgo]

A lot of people are holding out on the final verdict til we know how the reforging is going to work

From what i've seen so far though, most people do not like it as it is now

[grim musk]

Is that more because we can't edit the weapons yet or..

[white ginkgo]

It's a lot of RNG atm

tempers, the drop itself, and the craftwork rarity

three layers of RNG right there without including the Moonsteel variant

[grim musk]

I can see where their coming from but at the same time I do think a bit of rng is good for a game, don't get me wrong this is way too much without edit anyways but I trust they will pull through! We're in the midst of major changes and I'm excited to see where we go next

My ideal system would be something like;
Each time a new temper for a weapon is found you may use dracs or maybe a resource (one that you cant buy) to edit and use it
Moonsteel weapons are rare visual weapon changes that just look cool and can be seen in inventory
Craftwork can be improved by using copies of the same weapon on itself or dracs or something

[muted owl]

There are a few conversations regarding that going around right now. If you haven't, check out the #1438224662344761345

[grim musk]

Will do thank you!

[somber portal]

I now have every weapon in the game. Now to level them...

[crude gale]

What preludes are we in now?

[muted owl]

14.5

[crude gale]

Wow.

I started on P1. I wonder how close Soulframe is to launch.

[surreal basalt]

probably not very

[muted owl]

Yeah...just a bit different...

[random prism]

I heard a hopeful 2-3 years till full launch and an attempt at coming to steam within the year.

[crude gale]

Well, with Destiny 2 dead, people are going to need something to play.

[restive coyote]

True~2

[golden nova]

sad truth

[random prism]

Tbf it's been dying for a while.

So I don't see it being that big of a difference.

That and I don't see SF hitting the same audience much.

[somber portal]

D2 has been dying for a while. Its just having the plug pulled now

[restive coyote]

*happy truth

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

so glad I'll stop hearing about D2 soon

never understood the hype

[crude gale]

Destiny, and Destiny 2 at launch and for the first few years, were incredible.

[restive coyote]

absolutely, at launch it was amazing

[rigid pecan]

I see people talking about way higher level content than seems manageable, is there something I'm missing or is the only way to get stronger atp in the games development just raising your virtue rank for higher virtues?

[restive coyote]

it fell off pretty quick though unfortunately

[crude gale]

It was a looter shooter where you were a Guardian in the battle between the Light and the Dark. With horrible creatures that invaded from a dimension where Nightmares and dreams come from.

The lore for Destiny is easily 9/10.

[rigid pecan]

hmm sounds familiar... battles between good and evil... evil beings invading from a dimension where thought is tangible...

[golden nova]

Easily One of the Best Games I've ever played. I was on the Destiny train all the way from D1 Beta. Although it's at an end, glad to be a part of it. D1 Vault of glass and Crota's End were some of the most rewarding times

[random prism]

You get stronger by raising MR, which gives more virtue points.

And you do that by leveling pacts and weapons to max, as well as collecting history motes.

[rigid pecan]

so my latter guess is correct that the only way to handle higher level content is by farming MR, damn

[random prism]

Other than that, just having a max weapon with the appropriate joinery and good armor, yeh.

[rigid pecan]

gotta be honest, seems like a bad system to me

at least, tying your overall abilities to number of weapons mastered, that is

I think one thing WF does really well is making the gap between new players and veterans one that is quite possible and reasonable to cross

this seems pretty counter to that

[crude gale]

Warframe has kind of a weird story, as well as Soulframe.

They throw you into some Universe and expect you to have read all 18 books first.

And then don't explain what the crap is going on.

[rigid pecan]

not really? Warframe is pretty direct with a lot of its explanations and lore

I never had any trouble picking up things

[manic sonnet]

it shouldnt take all that long to raise mr in sf

[rigid pecan]

yeah there's not many weapons rn

but like, this system clearly can't last any real length of time

it places veteran players far above new players, no?

[manic sonnet]

every game does pretty much

[rigid pecan]

not realy wf

[manic sonnet]

shouldnt take that long to hit attunement cap on your weapon as a new player

in wf unless youre buying mods/weapons/primes/incarnons/rivens its gonna be a while before youre as strong as someone playing a while...

[somber portal]

The sparragon was worth the 100 usd

[manic sonnet]

much longer than mastering weapons in sf

[rigid pecan]

took me like a few months to catch up completely after taking a 5 year break

[somber portal]

I was mr3 about a month ago. And now im mr 15.5 with every weapon in the game

So far, I prefer sf for the large open world (bit empty though) and the less gun focused combat

[random prism]

Saying it doesn't take a while and then that it took several months after you had already initially played are two different things lmao.

But yeah, right now you can hit MR cap in like a week or two with the new xp boost from omen beasts being bonkers.

It's a progression system, it does progression things.

[rigid pecan]

I mean that was like, from mr 14 to mr26, to be fair

[random prism]

Not meant to be blitzed through instantly.

[rigid pecan]

sure, I get that

but the requirement of sideways progression (crafting more gear) to achieve any vertical progression (better stats/damage) doesn't feel great to me

[random prism]

I threw on the xp boost and maxed 4 weapons from 0 in a day largely just farming for maces, which means level like, 15-25 enemies abouts.

And that'll only get easier as higher levels and higher xp activities become available.

[rigid pecan]

that also poses another part of my issue with the concept

that the limited amount of gear means the only way to do higher level content really is to wait for more gear to be added, and level it all up

assuming higher level content was added, that is

[random prism]

Right now you can very easily do all content available at MR 18, the current max, and they plan on adding a LOT of weapons.

So that's not gonna become an issue.

Overleveling will be far more prevalent than underleveling.

[night girder]

waiting for implemented ode infamy fr fr🙏

[rigid pecan]

ok sure, but it still is a flawed system imo

[random prism]

I don't see how, given that the current listed reasons are not really problems.

[rigid pecan]

your entire power level being based on 1 number (MR) misses kinda the entire thing that makes building stuff in WF fun

I think the options for build customization and abilities will need to increase just as much as the number of weapons there are

[manic sonnet]

im past the point with already available gear where i hit my weapon attunement caps and an extra point in grace or spirit or whatever barely makes a difference

[rigid pecan]

or MR will inevitably become the be-all-end-all of power scaling

where it by far out-classes any other form of progression

[random prism]

I mean it already doesn't do that much for the reason Fey just stated.

[manic sonnet]

and i imagine tempered/craftwork upgraded weapons are gonna be way bigger power scaling than just a couple extra points in spirit

[random prism]

Yeah.

[rigid pecan]

how exactly does the attunement cap work, is it just a hard cap on virtue where it stops scaling?

[random prism]

Each weapon has a max scaling.

[manic sonnet]

yeah, i think current mace stops scaling more weapon damage at like 40 courage or something

[random prism]

Beyond that value, its damage will stop climbing.

[rigid pecan]

ic ic

[random prism]

And virtue points after that don't do much.

[night girder]

it will probably be changed, bc with many weapons introduced, pacts and all, you will level up the mr to 20, then to 30, and i don't see that holding up

[random prism]

Make your pact skills slightly better.

[manic sonnet]

i think abilities usually keep scaling but get diminishing returns? i havent looked too deep into it i guess with abilities

[random prism]

Give you a bit more of each virtue's bonus.

[night girder]

and then you can just change the prism configuration to be in the middle and have like 25 points on each, defeating the purpose of cofigurating it in the first place

[random prism]

And yeah, stuff is subject to change and adjustment, I just don't see a fundamental problem with linking some amount of long-term progression with MR.

[manic sonnet]

i think courge gives more life/grace gives headshot dmg/spirit gives cdr as well....but idk its not that impactful imo....current legendary mace has me feeling a much bigger power jump than anything so far in game that i remember

besides like pact abilities or runes ig

[night girder]

yeah, like rn it's fine i guess, they will think of something later on

[random prism]

This will only become a problem faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar in the future lol.

Given that each level of MR is bigger than the last.

[night girder]

yeah that's what i'm talking about

[random prism]

And we have 63 total virtue points right now, 18 from MR.

[night girder]

IF they dont change it

[random prism]

So we're talking years of progress there.

At the very least.

[night girder]

yep, that's what i'm talking about

[random prism]

And even then it'd be closer to 40/40/40, so more years still. Many weapons do not reach cap with 25.

[rigid pecan]

random thought but what if your MR levelling worked sorta like TTRPGs where you gain flat stat bonuses, and occasionally unique abilities/perks that you select from

[random prism]

Like, sure, not infinitely scalable, but more than 5 years to think about it.

[white ginkgo]

Just did a 4 player Mirifuir solo in cogah to prove a point LOL

[rigid pecan]

that would be kinda neat

[night girder]

correct, that's what i'm talking about, in a theoretical timeline when they dont change it

[white ginkgo]

Oh hey rynzier

[rigid pecan]

oh heyo

you're that guy? lmao

[white ginkgo]

Yeah lmfao

[random prism]

That's kind of just like generic RPG leveling, and you'd have to make those bonuses changeable at all times, and goes against the current focus I feel.

Virtues are part of your build, not all of it.

You start adding in unique skills and it starts just becoming a class.

Which is not how this system is set up.

[rigid pecan]

my issue is I feel like virtues are like, 70% of your build rn

[random prism]

It's a freeform connection of parts, much like WF kind of is.

[rigid pecan]

totems and runes don't really do all that much rn

they're like utility and/or minor stat increases at best

[random prism]

Pact and weapon choice makes up a larger than 50% chunk of your playstyle.

[manic sonnet]

elemental damage runes are insane damage tho lol

[random prism]

And can be mixed and matched however you like.

And runes kind of make or break combat right now yeah, lol.

And P15 is getting a rune and totem revamp anyway.

[rigid pecan]

fire

excited for that, also mounts

do we have a rough ETA on P15, btw?

[charred crag]

I'd disagree with this. Some runes are insane and there's some totems that push your builds to the limit

[manic sonnet]

we will tuesday or friday probably...hoping its next week release...

2 streams this week tho

[random prism]

I feel like pact and weapon choice are the main dish and virtue distribution is the flavor. Sure, certain flavors will make certain dishes kind of awful, but any one dish can be spun a multitude of ways successfully.

Your virtues will top off your playstyle, not define it.

[charred crag]

also mb i think i misunderstood your comment on runes

[manic sonnet]

also dont they always release after a stream? and this is last stream before tennocon and i think they said theyre releasing 15 before tennocon?

hype for anything about sf at tennocon...

[rigid pecan]

my issue with runes is that they aren't super impactful on a build and they kinda don't interact with anything else

[manic sonnet]

fire rune attack on heavy weapon is my bosskiller and i use it tons, flyblade orbit to proc smite, can use it pretty often

250% extra damage is huge

[charred crag]

Flintsmoke is a big one

[manic sonnet]

esp with rat totem to spread the damage to nearby enemy 😌

[charred crag]

Yep. Thats my next conquest rn

[manic sonnet]

i killed cogah mirifuir bosses alone in like 2 seconds using rune attack on middle guy twice, felt insane

with tethrens 1 up on mace

[white ginkgo]

Picktrix on duelo goes kind of crazy too

[charred crag]

Flintsmoke's +3 seconds is only procced from killing someone WITH a finisher? Or is it any kill while in stealth

[manic sonnet]

finisher can be sneak attaq too

normal attacks break stealth i think

[night girder]

i think only a kill with a finisher

[charred crag]

Okay so damage spread kills dont increase it

[charred crag]

Just go full bleed like arrow hail duelo

[night girder]

ah, that def wont proc it

[rigid pecan]

wait which totem

[charred crag]

The Blighted I think it is called

gold Rat totem

[manic sonnet]

yee

[night girder]

short weapon category

[manic sonnet]

theres one for each weapon type but idr what theyre called

[floral gazelle]

guys I dont know how much yall care but I found peak

[white ginkgo]

Only 10 dollars? What a steal

Wait isn't it free on pc?

Or was that for a limited time

[restive coyote]

Limited time iirc

[white ginkgo]

Yeah I saw on steam, it's $10 now. So that game is retail price LOL

[night girder]

it was, i think last year on the warframe anniversary

[chilly bramble]

where did you find darksector for 10 buck

[craggy fossil]

[floral gazelle]

a game store in LA

[night girder]

the store exploded when he got out

shocking

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-car-explode-cat-boom-bah-gif-5387928273689188008

[floral gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/joseph-joestar-fence-get-in-the-car-we're-leaving-this-town-now-impossible-gif-5110312093655302878

me after getting the game ^

[night girder]

hahahahahahahaha

[random prism]

God why do they have to throb the lights so much in that gif.

I'd give that a seizure warning, even my eyes hurt.

And it speeds up at parts into outright strobing.

[night girder]

they do that intentionally, some in tik tok are so exagerated its so funny hahahahaha

[random prism]

Sure, but I'd give that a warning when you share it.

Cus the strobing is obnoxious for me, potentially dangerous for some.

At least when not labeled in any way.

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[split hill]

Have they removed the consumable to change virtues yet

[random prism]

Nope.

[real jewel]

whats that?

[split hill]

you can change virtue alignment at the armory for a consumable, I want it removed and have been checking in every day until it's removed.

see y'all tomorrow

[real jewel]

oh damn but why is it a bad thing?

[split hill]

I liked the old system better, but in any case super not a big fan of consumables like that. Especially with how this game encourages experimentation.

[real jewel]

i started playing in like preludes 14 so i dont have too much of an idea what that system worked like either

[charred crag]

Instead of encouraging players to experiment it heavily limits people from wanting to tweak things and play around cause the Liths are not incredibly abundant.

[real jewel]

oh i see

[split hill]

I actually prefered the prisms because while you couldn't fine tune you could experiment for free.

[charred crag]

why would you want to play around with stuff a lot and tweak it if youre gonna have to go and grind liths for hours to afford it

[real jewel]

yeah i too feel some kind of "pressure" to now know how to cater my prism to what would be the most optimal for my build

[split hill]

I kept telling people complaining about the prisms would get us something worse :/

[charred crag]

LOL

[real jewel]

lol

i finally beat mestra carmo yesterday

[charred crag]

Could have it tied to a fable that unlocks free adjustments of the virtues when you complete it

[real jewel]

but now realised the duelo pact takes a lot of materials i dont have

[charred crag]

enjoy farming the set 💀

[real jewel]

i thought it was just going to give it to me ngl

[real jewel]

yeah i think ill just hold it off at least until my tethren is maxed

idk how but i have like 10-20 of each material that i need for it

so im guessing it should be doable enough

[real jewel]

the wiki said its better if you keep parrying her attacks but i lowk kept dying trying to parry rawdogging her was better pause

someone said mendicant king is the hardest boss is that true

if hes harder then mestra carmo i might have to lock in

[charred crag]

for the set you gotta run along the beaches, find a shipwreck that may or may not spawn a duel, beat carmo and pray she drops one of the fragments and that its not a duplicate

[real jewel]

wait holy shit what

i have to kill her till i get all the drops?

was thrice not enough

[charred crag]

yep RNG

[real jewel]

i knew i was speaking too soon

well then

[charred crag]

I'd say the Mirf Fort trio is the hardest but idk if that counts

[real jewel]

i dont know about that yet

should i lowk then not go farming duelo just yet

maybe get idk orengall

or complete all orlick quests im only on chapter 1 end

[random prism]

For the level they're found at, I'd say Etheldred is the hardest design.

Mendi is simple and can be burst pretty easily.

Ethel has a lot of attacks that just don't have proper startup.

[real jewel]

i sure do have like a crap ton of content to cover still it seems

[random prism]

If you're close by, you just get hit.

[real jewel]

thats not good news for a tethren

[charred crag]

nah id go for duelo if you already just beat carmo, the other farm with the three pieces is just for the Maestre armour set not duelo

[random prism]

Throwing your weapon is always a thing.

And it does very good damage too.

[real jewel]

you think?

[random prism]

A perfect throw will blow even a charged heavy out of the water.

At least in single hit damage.

[real jewel]

i have not experienced this yet i feel like heavys do more damage but i get what you mean

[charred crag]

Idk why as I read that I pictured actually throwing your weapon and it blowing a heavy enemy straight out of water

[random prism]

Like, take even Igne Mora for instance, a longblade. Not great throws, but solidly usable.

[real jewel]

wow damn

[random prism]

Throws hit hard.

[real jewel]

ok i gotta step my game up

[random prism]

And it makes the perfect throw skill node very valuable.

[charred crag]

that is with the perk maxed right?

[random prism]

Not that you worry with longblades cus they have a maxed tree lol.

[random prism]

What perk? There aren't any perks that increase throw damage.

Only one that enables perfect throws.

[charred crag]

oh mb I dont use them I thought it was one for damage

maybe im thinking of a Temper

[random prism]

Nah it just gives you that bar when you throw.

If you release within a set area, perfect throw.

Doesn't throw any sooner or faster but much more damage.

[real jewel]

i have it for my ivor

but i already got an orst 3 thats way better

voltaic damage increased pull smite and something else

[charred crag]

I do agree with Etheldred being one of the hardest bosses too actually

I forgot that he's kind of in an early zone and is a massive pain in the ass

[real jewel]

where is he at

actually no ill

[lone mauve]

Hello! Planning to play the game with three of my friends (waiting quite impatiently for the incoming dev stream in the end of May haha).
I have a few questions:

a. How is the content, particularly the group content?
b. How many hours is the current gameplay?
c. Will we be able to play together as a group of four at the start?
d. Are there other ways to get an invite code? I am afraid the dev streams start at 3:30am in our country.

Thank you so much!

[real jewel]

focus on orlicks quests first

[lyric wraith]

guys are buying bundles worth it ?

ingame bundles for arca

[random prism]

Yeah, only being available at a lower level skews the experience but Ethel is very annoying.

If they were later on, like in a higher level zone like Thrice or Dimrod, it'd be a solid pain.

The moveset isn't very balanced.

If you don't have the mercy of distance and thus travel time, some attacks just hit you.

Extremely little if any warning.

[real jewel]

oh um guys should i also go find that avakot guy? i heard he sells stuff for dracs i dont have his icon on my map yet

[charred crag]

a. theres not really anything as of rn that is group-play focused. Still plenty of fun with friends although it can trivialise the harder content when youre all built up

b. extremely based on what you play for. If you just like the story and stuff you can easily get 30(ish) hours of playtime. If you are a minmax or endgame focused player then that becomes hundreds of hours

c. pretty much yes

d. arent allowed to ask for them here but keep an eye out because people do offer codes up fairly often <3

[random prism]

I wouldn't say SF has anywhere near 100 hours of content, as I wouldn't call pointless grinding content.

But we're also firmly in pre-alpha still so content isn't the focus right now.

[lone mauve]

Ohhh. So we are going to breeze through content if we are four in a party

[random prism]

It's in a 'make your own content while the game is being made' stage.

[real jewel]

pretty much even solo so far hasnt been a huge challenge its quite easy ish

[random prism]

A lot of testing and meandering about.

[charred crag]

yeah this is really true. I think im working off a bit of recency bias because ive just been farming it for days. But yeah that fight was a nightmare when learning the moves

[real jewel]

and a lot of rock mountains can be climbed

oh and my god do i love that we can swim

[charred crag]

In terms of how much there already is to grind, definitely over 100 hours of playtime if you enjoy that. But youre right not necessarily content

[random prism]

Knell Knight gets a shout out though.

His moveset? Simple. The actual fight? Easy to get around, not that hard.

[real jewel]

is knell knight the whispering guy that spawns

[random prism]

His mcfking bros? Known Cogah enders.

[real jewel]

nvm

[random prism]

Mendi units do proportionately a lot of damage and have clubbed many a player like a damn seal.

So it's easy until they get a hit in and your collarbone shatters.

Even out of Cogah they kind of hurt.

[real jewel]

man level 30 enemies hurt me for now

[random prism]

Fear the armored goop men.

[real jewel]

i cant take more than like 5 hits

[random prism]

They are very spicy sometimes.

[real jewel]

and why do they smite down upon me sometimes out of nowhere

and lock me up in their little voodoo circle

[random prism]

Lmao.

[somber portal]

My fav part of the game is probably forcing people to go Awoo

[untold tiger]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[somber portal]

Good bot

[compact talon]

the bot absolutely obliterates every scammer

[somber portal]

11 weapons left to max

[timid fox]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbthumb-thumb-jason-spykids-spy-gif-5718915

Guys I just found the Ode without helmets!

[frigid oriole]

what the...

[somber portal]

I wish the paragon periapt gave 6 to all stats

[random prism]

Why.

It already gives more than the +6 talismans lol.

[random prism]

It's +6 vs +9 total.

[frigid oriole]

is this normal

[random prism]

But the former can be argued for on certain builds cus it's all to one virtue.

[random prism]

And no, hope you really wanted more quenching acid.

[somber portal]

Because its the same as the Triune

[random prism]

Yeah? It's just meant to be a fancy version with a neat visual effect.

[somber portal]

Surely the empress could've put a little more magic into it

She sung a weapon into existence, did she use all her magic on that?

[timid fox]

there's a hidden "+1 Razzle-Dazzle" stat on it

[random prism]

They were very nervous about making anything in the founders packs actually good, outside of the secondaries apparently.

All of the primaries added have objectively better things that exist, all of the secondaries are the best of their grip type.

[somber portal]

Bar paragon I guess. Thats a great weapon

[random prism]

So ofc they'd not want to make the talisman any better.

[random prism]

Arguably weaker than Purity, actually weaker than Purity in most cases.

[timid fox]

I though Odiac was better than Esthelle

[somber portal]

Purity doesnt have the "razzle-dazzle" as it was put

Paragon W

[timid fox]

oh, apparently Esthelle has a higher cap than Odiac

[somber portal]

The wha?

[random prism]

Yeah, Esthelle beats it out just a bit on both lights and heavies.

[somber portal]

Oh the oscelda sidearm

[timid fox]

Witan is better than Cobladh

[random prism]

I have 33/15/15 for virtues right now, leaning Courage, and Cobladh still outdoes Grinn.

[random prism]

Huh, so it does, very slightly.

[compact talon]

so much quenching acid, man is living my dreams

[random prism]

Though Cobladh has the 'next heavy is buffed' thing whenever you get a blue smite with it out.

Though also a percent less smite.