#envoy-gathering
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I think they put a bit too much helium into this balloon š
ye ive seen some balloons go up to the sky wonder if they drop something better
Nah
Ye I don't think so, seems like a bug with the new floating animation they have
its kinda a faster float than the collector
yes but no real reason too
how many tempers can you get on a mace? how many are available ?
Without finding a boundary break and walking across the ocean floor, even.
Going by the amount of tiers, like 8, but good luck even rolling a moonsteel at all.
did they changed sirin and now when you steal there is no more loot on the ennemy ?
Given that there's 6 tiers and the lowest tier has a cap of 3.
And moonsteel is rare enough that they called out the first person who rolled one on stream.
Me using the giant mace on Duelo
haven't seen better than my single one noble, so either the person who dropped the moonsteel first farmed way too much, either he was the luckyest
(unless he got trash tempers (but i think with amount available he might have them all on a moonsteel
i have only gotten military and officer rarities
i had my first Noble just an hour ago
Also doesn't higher lvl enemy give higher chance? So unless you're farming North only rate is even lower.
i farm with the cogah active, but even then sometimes they still don't drop (or might be loot bugging out of the map) but the problem is that cogah vial are consummable and not an activate switch
Soulframe, adds swimming
Players, spam jump to skip slow swimming
if they are gonna make us suffer to get the better rarities and make the basic military ones so frequent at this point they could just make the 100% drop (since i also felt that they lowered the spawn of mace elites and there is no dungeon with guarantied one as boss)
is the mace only weapon with temper at the moment?
adds swimming but for what purpose, could've wait the P15 in my opinion
yes, a test weapon
Yes, it is the preview of that new system.
Test run ig before they add it with something needing it
what's needing it ?
Its almost like they are clearly developing ocean related sections to the game
im unsure if i like this system. i like warframes system and this one of crafting a weapon and then being able to customize it. idk if i can handle another game of farming for the god roll lol
so you can hold sprint to swim faster havent even tried swiming yet
like the NE island outside of the map ?
Bro skipped duelo farm
hah ship sieges
duelo farm is the most annozing didnt drop a single armor part yet
well duello was faster to farm than the sivler staff
agree, i just run to 3 shipwrecks per day
eventually i got them all
i havent gotten a single desparte from the shipwrecks and i might just have to try and rely on mirifur for a drop
i went to duello to get the saber because i only kept getting dwellion from siege
i got a dewellion and felt my stomach drop on knowing what im gonna be fighting drop chances for
Lowkey man
I think the sieges are still to easy
But i guess im biased or sum
mirifur is a little tough for me cuz its 3 wizards and magic is my greatest weakness
@mighty loom im sorry bro
Bromius was too good your never getting the old nuke back
i always have underleveled weapon and pacts on me maybe thats giving me a hard time
It is
Just like
Face tank it
And hit em
mirfur is tricky because you get alot of chip damage all over the place
THE BUFFS LAST 1380 MINUTES? Thats like a whole day
Iām not complaining
im tryinggg
Oh prisms are dead?
Got a code from twitch but when I go to claim it I get this error š

Yes 23 hours
Not really, just got better
Yes unfortunately, the minmaxing virtues is back
i like the new virtue system but tying it to a consumable sounds annoying when inevitably swapping builds
Just spam smite heal
"Virtue Prisms have been removed and replaced with Virtue Liths! "
Virtue Prism is kill and Lith took its place

this is like their 4th virtue rework now right
i died once because there was a rat that wanted to be charmed
I got like 40 since im a paragon
How do i farm them for future reference?
If they dont change if before hand
this is how it feels playing a alpha
probably not the last rework š
Brain went like, what if prisms⦠but combat passives instead virtue points
I havent needed to play around with this because my loadouts are simple 
this is more a virtue rollback
Nimrod and Jotar prism
They serve the same purpose, its just prisms with more freedom, they should just remove that part where you need to pay to respec, thats... not good, unless you pay with dracs and not a high price
it says sieges and agari can drop them
I thought it said just curlail?
i had paragon and only got like 17 because i never bought any of the prisms lol
Ah
So ill never run out ight
I lowkey never use anything but my main loadout outside of mastery farming
youd be right. i kinda just saw siege and assumed more than one
It is weird that its just curlail tho
do you still get virture points with mastery rank however
So has someone gotten a so called godroll on their hammer?
Do we know the max amount of modifiers?
And do some of them lock other options out?
I think its capped at 3?
I have one w four
Really? Then maybe its 4
And Ive heard there has been a six mod one
i got one with 5

apparently theres 7 craftworks so maybe 7 tempers max?
since they changed movement my characters does sometimes float on the ground feels like im doing some art of moonwalk
Mine only has 2. Faster heavy swing and charge up for throw š
Which tbf, I like doing the little herta kuru kuru with it.
Ok so 6 is max limit according to wiki
where can i farm the 6 craftworks ? cogah?
Dunno if some of them lock other options out or not tho
Might be
If the drops work the same way as others in-game then the higher the enemy level the higher chance for higher rarity ig
No download for this update? Interesting.
I had an update
Weird
Also. WHY?! You have no idea how irritating this is. I understand you want to tell us we have upgrades, But I can't add any points to anything. This is now permanently on my screen. I need this off, ASAP.
Btw the guy who does wiki updates please add the remaining tempers there. I'm pretty sure I had one that increased atk spd but it hasnt been listed on the wiki. Also someone was talking about a temper that adds fire dmg
I really hope they let us just do rerolls or something. Because I do not want to farm out another purity for a better roll when the tempers apply to every weapon
Well luckily the weapons will be prebuilt so instead of 3 pieces per sword it'll be one sword fully built
So the grind will be like 3x ish better
But yeah I feel you
Literally
Not looking forward to that either but then again if it becomes a sort of endless grind I'll be happy to have something to do as a sort of weekly/daily gameplay
Uknow rolling rivens in warframe is not that bad also would be on the same level as grinding liches for the ephmeras
So, annoying if the rng isn't on your side but tolerable if it works
Hey folks, hopw do I mark a bug? So, i started Mestra quest before the update, did 2 fights (rapier and pole) and now the quest is gone and incomplete for me
1 level 3 mockery could beat a level 100 cogah agari
Big tracking channel
If you don't have the channel. id:customize to add it. "I want to provide feedback!"
I mean once they add trading its not going to be as bad
You can just either farm for the drop or trade with someone who has a weapon with the drops you want
i don't think we know exactly what trading or even the overhaul for existing weapons is going to look like yet
personally, i'd prefer some kind of pity to be built-in so you always feel like you're making progress
There's going to be someone who will grind like 70 thousand copies of a single weapon to get the god roll and sell the rest.
(The one warframe player who has like 30 fully built grendel primes in his inventory)
Yeah we dont have knowledge from that but Im assuming it would be pretty similar to warframe
Maybe a market area that is located in the nighfold that functions like a relay in WF
Could be "sponsored by the capitalism camel"
Pity system would be nice but sometimes too much QoL can make the reward feel less rewarding uknow?
let's just agree to disagree on that
hey, didnt play for a long time, is it possible to delete a caracter to start a new one?
not at the moment, unfortunately
Lets use borderlands3or4 for example, the game showers you with "legendary" loot so much that the highest rarity doesn't even feel rare anymore. Anything below "ULTRA LEGENDARY" (or whatever) is just unusable trash that doesn't have a function
you can start over if you can get an extra key or something, but there's no way to start over with the same account
Indeed, as we can both have our own opinions on the matter and both are just as valid
anyone want vadagar bear?
i don't think you need to look outside of soulframe to make a case for pity or no pity though
currently, you can spend a week looking for gath and make 0 progress
that's not "practically no progress", it's potentially literally nothing towards your goal
Player trading with random drops is going to be a crazy economy ngl
Makes me wonder how wyld weapons will work with tempers and how the paragon sword is gonna work too
envoy, whatcha got there...
soulframe when
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DE can we please just go back to the OG sliders for virtues. You are basically already there it is just much more of a pain to dial in even with mouse
how do i get an invite how does that work
I havent used the new slider system because my virtue attunement was perfect for each loadout I had
i bought a gpu for it i want it
Get lucky w invites
i just sign in and wait ?
or do i have to participate in some sort of an event
nvm just read pinned message
there are instructions on the different ways to get access in this pinned message: #envoy-gathering message
sigh
yeah i noticed
Check dms
there's also a stream coming up in a couple weeks with a twitch drop for reference:
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014368913854514
@eternal terrace If no one has given you a key yet, DM me, I can give you one
mato gave me one
god bless him
and you too
Aw thx 
can i get a key pls if anyone has one?
Technically soulframe almost doubles it's player base every stream so people tend to have extra codes after streams
@foggy minnow dm me
Can't wait for the Warframe x Soulframe collab where we get Void Pact š
Would be pretty funny
Void pact would be cool
Canonically, Soulframe and Warframe should be connected via the Void
Plus its lore accurate and plausible
The content potential is insane
eternalism or somethin
And maybe, just maybe... A special specter deployable warfrfame
You think wazzard of the waste is reference to howl moving castleās witch of the Waste?
just as a general reminder, please don't actively ask for keys here, it's against the server rules
am i missing something with a sprite and a mirror with sunlight? the sprite doesnt go anywhere near the beam either way
Try hitting or interacting with one of the mirrors
yeah i did that, either way it faces doesnt help
no earlier mirrors -.-
OK, plan B: is one of the mirror lights pointing at a box or stack of boxes?
If it is, hit and break that box
sometimes there's a lever you need to lower a mirror or something along those lines
those puzzles are partly random so it's hard to give specific advice without knowing what it looks like, but there's also a chance that it's just bugged
-# psst! big legs!
ill keep looking but its just indestructable plant pots the beam is hitting
yeah
if you want, you can invite me to have a look
could try that
my name is the same as here if you want to try
k sec
sorry, had to run off, you just had to throw your weapon at the mirror
ah, i literally started last night i did know how to throw š
thanks a lot though lol
just found a random enemy with intel on him and it led me to a banneret that was gonna go get a drink.
yeah... same happened to me...
i ruined his day
So whoās got the best version of the new hammer so far?
There's a screenshot with one that is very likely a moonsteel.
8 tempers rolled.
Which would logically be the absolute max.
Though they havenāt confirmed if itās real xD
God damn
No reason it would not be, as it follows logic and is a screenshot.
Part of me hopes itās real and part of me is like why the hell does this exist lol
Seems pointless to think it isn't without anything suggesting such.
Yeah
There are 6 tiers and the first has a max of 3.
By logic, 3 + 5 is 8, one added per tier.
So the highest tier would be moonsteel and the max it can roll would be 8.
Have people figured whether drop source changes possibility of tiers yet? Or is it completely random doesnāt matter which geezer you pick it up from lol?
Cause I got about 20 of them yesterday and all of them were military and officer
No clue, will probably only be known for sure with time.
The higher tiers may just be stupidly rare, exponentially more rare than the lowers.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah thatās what Iāve been thinking
Or it may be weighted based on the level of the enemy you killed.
We just won't have such recorded until more time has passed, especially if the higher tiers are that rare.
Literally needs a tutorial that forces player to use throwing to progress
Yee besides they could completely swap stuff in the next patch so I donāt think itās worth really diving in too deep since this is a taster pretty much
I got one with three upgrades from a level 9 enemy
I got one with 4 but I have no clue what level the enemy was I wasnāt really paying attention to that
The first one I got was from the agari gawth and that was a 3 tempered military I think
What's funny is that I wouldn't even call that 8 roll the best possible.
On a heavy weapon? Replace either dodge attacks or throw speed with the missing heavy attack damage temper.
So it isn't even the god roll.
Probably throw speed tbh, cus it ain't fixing that grip type's throws.
Yeah itās not the best for sure but itās still crazy lucky I think xD
are the higher tier hammers random drop or is there a certain place to get from
Shruggers
Oh yeah astoundingly. Moonsteel tier is apparently rare enough that the first person who rolled one was called out.
Literally have no idea rn, not enough time and testing has passed
On stream, someone came by to call out their name and ask if they were in chat.
Which does not bode well for drop chances.
Yeah I remember people lost their mind cause it had 6 tempers
Thatās why initially I thought the 8 might be a photoshop lol
The only dif is how many they can roll at max, so it wouldn't make sense to be less than 8.
Otherwise we'd have tiers that exist with no functional difference.
Well I had officer ones that had 2 tempers
The fact that they can lowball doesn't sit well with me, as that's just more unnecessary RNG.
So maybe they can low roll a bit
Yeah they can, that much is known for sure.
They have maxes but it is not guaranteed.
Which is awful.
Yeah, I mean I assume weāll be able to improve them by rerolling them later at tuvalkane
But I agree
If you get insanely lucky enough to get the best tier it should reflect that fairly
So you have to pray for a moonsteel roll for the chance of 8 tempers.
And then get an equivalent to two tiers down cus fk you.
Yeah it definitely isnāt sitting with me too well either xD
I just think so many damn special effects is excessive and feels bloaty.
Like, we could have had the first tier just always have 1, and then two more tiers for a grand total of 3.
I guess most of them are totem effects that theyāre adding as extra boosts
Instead we have... 8 out of 9 effects being on one weapon.
Agreed lol it seems excessive
Maybe theyāll change it in the next prelude and slimline it
Right now it feels like bloat flavored by excessive RNG.
And if most weapons end up like that, with notable weapons remaining fragment crafted, the system as-is would just push me away from using anything but those craftable weapons.
Cus it just looks like so much annoyance to deal with.
Conspiracy Theory: They added this temporary system to get all the Preluders to burn through their excessive Resource piles, before replacing it with a better system.
It's all a plot by Lord Synod, in collaboration with Ballas.
I can see it
Guess Iāll grab my tinfoil hat lol
The Finfoil had is pretty Aura. I'm sure Verminia would approve.
Definitely would get me some brownie points with the rat lady
tuvalkane will just let us reroll our weapons, trust
We'll have to wait and see, and then wait and see if that reroll accounts for maximum tempers.
Or if it'll only reroll what tempers already exist.
If you get a moonsteel that low rolls 6 instead of 8, it could just reroll a new 6 again and again.
For all we know.
Honestly moonsteel is like.. endgame gear and we not NEED THT YET
Keep in mind that this is an attempt to make lower-tier gear relevant compared to significant gear that will remain fragment crafted.
So this is to make stuff compare to the likes of Gathannan.
It is not end-game, it is to bridge the gap.
And for that purpose, to simply catch up, it is far too buried in RNG.
I donāt mind long term if we can consistently earn the highest amount of tempers, cause letās be honest we donāt need the highest tempers for EVERY weapon only the ones we like to use
I am one gath frag away from having all weapons hnnnnng
I honestly hope that weāll be creating a library of tempers with tuvalkane. Like we can turn in our excess weapons in turn for maybe special joineries that apply tempers for other weapons?
I can also see that, because we have ingots now, weāll be able to scrap them for lot of resources that are required for crafting ancient gear (the special gear type that will still require fragments)
A library could work but it could also end up like totems where we have tons of overlap that we just scrap
We don't know what the future holds, but right now, as-is, what we got is kind of awful.
And idk if covering it in bandaids is the solution.
can we get the new maces?
A top tier being so rare it's notable enough to call out on stream is worrisome.
Especially, again, because this system is designed as a catch-up mechanic.
For lower tier stuff to compete with higher.
Locking stuff like that behind absurd rarity and the potential to low-roll anyway, the latter potentially being fixable later, is... bad.
Again, what I'm seeing right now would make me just ditch every weapon that does not remain fragment-based.
Simply to avoid the giant pile of hassle.
melee influence
i shalt ask again, can we get the mace yet?
Heh yes
what's with this though?
that's a temper, it might be worth checking the patch notes if you want a rundown of the changes
melee influence
Melee influence
i read em, couldn't make sense of em
she melee on my influence until i heavy slam wukong
especially the new virtue system
No more prism, but your virtue set up is altered with a new resource.
got a 6 buff mace that doesn't have the temper i want
can someone explain what this is about
where are you guys farming maces?
Those are temporary buffs
buffs
It's about family
But also in a lesser sense yes it's a 23 hour account buff
Check the pinned messages in this channel, itās against the rules to ask for keys here but there are plenty of ways to get them!
More XP, more stagger on kick or more Virtues
do we have numbers? for xp gain or virtues
Theyāre good buffs too tbh, long like 23 hours and they cross through sessions with you
how did 1 update throw me from "has decent working knowledge of the game" to "new baby go gaga"
Welcome to a pre alpha xD
It's not even a full update
who on earth would ever pick the kick option
I only picked it after grabbing the first 2 xD
There's a few Totems that incentivize kick builds, not sure those are actually worthwhile (yet) but I can see the potential build space for them
is bear buff real time or ingame time
Almost certainly real time though I've not personally tested
All other buffs are real time though so pretty safe bet
Literally the first sentence of the patch notes btw
Is there anywhere in particular the omen beasts are showing up? I havenāt run into any yet.
Any trick to freeing up a permanent, uncompelteable sparrow's tale? I can't take T3s anymore. Or do I need to ask god for help
Abandon it in journal
i mostly found them when doing votives
Yea, funny thing about that
Iāll run around doing some today and see what happens. Thanks!
Oh I see, I had to click it. I thought it was already highlighted and showing the quest details. So never thought I needed to click it for show the abandon button as the track button was there. So I assumed all the buttons were showing. So just a UI/UX confusion.
got a referral link from a mate who plays warframe, excited to see what Soulframe is like/about,, once the download finishes
Well let me tell youā¦. Kinda joined at the wrong time tbh š
Welcome to Midrath, Envoy!
dis any good
true truw
They are all good tbh. It just depends on your playstyle. If you do more heavies, heavy tempers might be better for you. Or you want the voltaic stagger, could be cool, or you dodge more
This game has already captivated me
uhoh
ominous
many bugs?
Apologies Sarah š
Not that many bugs. Just a bit of a controversial update to stat allocation
Bugs and also major overhauls of systems which are kindaā¦. Interesting
like a week things were good
We have new totems for maces too? This was never mentioned
How do you get that tab?
Iām returning after most of a prelude away due to work and really enjoying it, aside from the oscelda co-op bug thats already noted
ok so when you hover over the orst press tab
mhmmmm... game is still in development, id expect there to be changes yeah. ill be mindful to not get too attached to anything then lol
No, greatswords have been replaced by āheavyā which has a mace as the icon
You press tab to cycle through the tabs. This one is currently only for the mace
Oh i see it
bro i dont wanna bonk
but ban mommies are calling my name
Itās a great experience regardless of the new update xD
I know that, but Oh only for the mace. That makes sense why nothing else has it
Enjoy yourself! Thereās been a lot of QoL changes since I personally started. Iām loving the newer progression for the scribe.
the RNG is calling mt name
I got a 6 out of 7 tempers mace
ah, a gambler
But it doesn't have the buff that i actually want
6 in 1???
hand it ovr
U can have 8?
It aināt mine xD someone posted it in screenshots earlier today and I nearly spat out my food
So are we anticipating totems for other items, since totems now specify "Weapon Totem" on them?
you see kayro we must obliterate evvery banmommy on the map
lets goo
Yeah I figured that might be the case too ^^
Yeah, you know what? I think tempers really need to be capped at 4
I agree
3 is too much already
Having 8 is insanity
Heavy attack is pretty nice on it
That's still missing full force temper
Ikr xD
Nah, 3 you get a nice build
It also doesn't hit twice after the hotfix ;-;
Really ? That sucks
I want something more easily obtainable so I can have 2-3 copies for different builds
That's the power of this system
I think thatās a bug yeah hopefully theyāll fix it to hit twice again
Also, people really already calling to nerf the now-rarest weapon in the game? lol
Yes
For a game that didnāt want to be too UI heavy, this look dum lol
It's rare ? I killed the boss with the mace dropped It first try ?
The fully-forged 8 perk version is rare, and that's what people seem to want hit with the nerf bat
^
Tbf, really funny
And ironically, gives more non-cryptic information than most of the ingame descriptions...
Apologies! I did the wrong thing in following what I saw rather than figuring it out myself.
I did figure it out and get it sorted in the end.
I appreciate the call out!
I love how some people really can't think of game balance or just healthy grinds, and will just reduce everything to nerfs
Oh so gonna have to keep farming them then that's a bit meh
Youāre good just didnāt want anyone getting in trouble xD
Tbh, I think it's nice to have a genuinely powerful, genuinely rare drop to chase
Very meh, considering those weapons would be like...70% or our arsenal?
The normal versions of the weapon already give the "mastery" and drop at max level once you get one to 30, so I honestly have no qualms with using lower-tier ones and gradually upgrading
I would feel better knowing that eventually I can be guaranteed it through reforging or some sort of refinery system, hopefully that will come
Until you remember that fragment weapons will still be a thing and the equal of the best of those things
Tbf, you can't sell them at the moment without getting locked into a load screen lol
I can't even see what my inventory limit is anywhere 𤣠does it show anywhere ?
But rn my luck is way too Garbo to even attempt farming for that crap lol
U can sell them straight from inventory I've done it a couple of times now
I've not been able to ;-;
Yeah itās hit or miss whether you get softlocked when you sell them lol
Weird
Galvanic strike alone says hello
Itās a bug that passed over from zeniths shop now to the inv
Hopefully they fix it soon
I've been having so much fun with just this one already, I'm hyped to grab versions with more perks
Breakneck be good with trefell I bet
Bro forgot that's already accounted in the calculation
I must admit I levelled mine without breakneck and it felt very slow
The AoE mini-stuns are counted for in the calculation?
Itās added damage
That too, but the stuns are nice for keeping crowds in check
Also it looks way cooler charged with electricity, 11/10
Yeeee reminds me of dark souls buffs xD
Think id have rather had the fragments and craft rather than the rng to get one with all the perks š¤£
Also, I think they've added a warframe daily tribute equivalent? I talked to the camel fella in the overworld and got a 20+ hour affinity booster lol
I wish the heavy attack (non-charged one) wouldnt attempt to do spin-to-win move and did normal horizontal swings
I think my only complaint with the new mace is it doesnāt feel like it has much range
That's what tree fell rune is for
I need to get that still actually
@pearl beacon well thanks because now i have more power
Should its funny watching everything around you die to one attack
Anytime friend 
Mendicant king cogah farm HMMM lol
they reworked capacity and storage yeah? What happensed to the like 200 in game currency i spent on weapon and pact slots? Is it all gone and wasted?
Good time of day Envoys, Founders, Paragons and Stevens.
They should have refunded most of it
the heck
They refunded 590 of the 600 I spent so Iām quite happy
they jumping someone
Bug moment lol
now we have to farm these maces does it actually say your inventory limit anywhere ?
The camel
Hahahahahaha
money
it said they gave people some to cover what they have but cannot find it anywhere only buy more š¤£
I think they gave out 50 default and if you had more stuff already they auto bought some space for you
Don't feel Orst-III should be nerfed. But having this many rolled stat's should be.
not seen that menu bit yet
Agreed lol
i had everything and it let me get that mace without any issue just no idea how much i actually have
and this shit
like osame for me, missing 10
Ubisoft moment
wait i think it does actually show it
ikr
how does this work now
I am so sorry I thought you were joking about it being MORE obvious and already knew about that
Good time of day Envys, Founders, Paragons and Stevens.
Thatās my bad for assuming
no missed it when i looked apparantly
Iām sorry xD I should have mentioned that
Tis a small number.
i just expected it to be in your inventory not the store lol
Yeah it heccin SHOULD be in your inventory
Especially now weāre gunna be bloating the crap out of our inventory with tons of mace pickups
yes. why would people even consider fragment weapons when rng weapons would be stronger?
Cause fragment weapons will be stronger
unless they add a way to add the tempers they wont be
yup, and unless they make the fragment weapons an absolute pain to farm, the current state of things is jsut bad
Iām more thinking about people who donāt have a lot of space left someone actually already hit the cap but apparently there was no popup it just wouldnāt let them interact with the mace on the ground not even a F popped up
Theyāll be converted when they release the next prelude I assume
Just that one
This mace is just a taster
As long as they don't make me farm em all again š¤£
Istg Iāll die
ah
how do i see all my slots, taken and available of investory
In the future is what DE said in the patchnotes
Zenith
Uh well kinda
Zenith shows you how many slots you have left
is there list of all the tempers?
zenith?
then it would make fragment weapon worthless. see how thinking the rng weapon would be better makes no sense? they will only break through in some niche permitted by their tempers, but fragment weapons will jsut be overall better
Howdy
hello
This is as close as I have rn lol itās missing one I think though
This is 8/9, just missing Full Force
Yeah
wait you have all 8 on a single mace?
No, someone else apparently does
Yep! The Tempers are all on https://wiki.avakot.org/Tempers if you need them:
This was posted in screenshots
can we get all the tempers on one mace?
Ty I did Google search but couldnāt find a page for them lol
Not sure tbh, the highest Iāve seen is 8
wait.. WTF u got all ?
Stock (No Tempers)
Military (1-3 Tempers)
Officer (2-4 Tempers)
Noble (3-5 Tempers)
Sovereign (4-6 Tempers)
Legendary (6 Tempers)
Someone said you can only get a max of 6 apparently but that is definitely 8 in one screenshot!
Can't get one with em all ? According to that link anyway
Quick question: is the bromius buff always at this location or was it a random encounter?
I got a 6 temper mace earlier
I think this is early testing lemme update the Legendary to 8 based on that screenshot, it'll be interesting to know if Sovereign and below are right though
Pretty sure they're new random encounters.
I canāt confirm if itās legendary or moonsteel tier
Is moonsteel definitely real? I've not seen a screenshot of one yet so I'm still half convinced it's a hoax hahaha
And not just bromius
Believe it's random-ish, might be a version of Warframe's daily login given the bonus length
The guy didnāt respond when I asked for confirmation
Hang on here Iāll get the link for it
Tyty
guys a quick question...every player has had his arcs refunded in the new update ( im talking about slots) Right?
I think Legendary is maybe 6-8, rather than just 6, so updating that now
ah thanks
I can't wait to get better drip
???
Yup!
ok so DE scammed me š i litteraly spent 100 arcs on slots and they didnt refund mine
What kind of slots though?
Don't worry that's intentional, read all the text in the image it's a little more complex
You don't actually need a refund
wdym?
Yeah if you needed more space they kinda auto bought stuff for you apparently
they converted your 100 arcs worth to the exact amount of storage cap I think?
it gets reduced or balanced as they do the calc
These are the locations I found them at atm.
not really.. they said "we will refund ur spent arcs on slots and we will give every player 50 slot"
If you have more than 50 items, you'd be in a weird state
No I mean just above that in the full patchnotes, the Capacity Conversion part right?
Guys anyone got a spare key?
i had almost every armour ingame...and like 10 weaponso only i struggeld so much bcz of lack of capacitys last update
Check the pinned comments, itās against the rules to ask for keys here ^^ thereās plenty of ways to get them though!
when i launched the game i had 50 exactly.. regardless of my current inventory .. its like "Forget what u have.. now u have a 50 NEW capcity.. regardless of what u had"
My bad but how?
Thatās interesting xD
Check the pinned messages in this channel
Thereās a bunch of ways to get them for free and for a price
You have 50 items exactly? Or 50 spare capacity?
Storage Capacity costs 150 Arcs per 50 slots, so I think what maybe happened for you was:
- DE gave you 50 extra slots on top of the base 50, since you have 50 or more items
- This would've cost you 150 Arcs
- But since you already paid 100, they didn't charge you the 50 arcs, they let you have that for free as part of this one-time conversion
hi
Yeah thatās what I was thinking too
I canāt see it happening any other way xD
This is the full explanation from DE @arctic dock , specifically that final sentence
Howdy
guys, ill be honest, i thought virminia was black
b4 update i had 0.. after update i have 50
i didnt get a refund
i only got a 50 storage capacity
You had 0 before and just got 50 cap for free? Damn, nice
that's a free 150 arcs lmao
but wasnt that supposed to be
+50 and +previously spent arcs?
No it's the calculation explained here #envoy-gathering message
Damn I always assumed she was white because of the French background?
OH WAIT so i won 50 arcs?
there... there are black french people?
Tbh same
lmao now i kinda understand it... ty 
Rich
...yes
Nah I mean as in because it is like medival settings that she was white because of the French
dang maybe i shouldnt have collected all the armor before this prelude so i could get some arcs back lmao
im not sure i get it lol i got arcs refunded and 22 extra inventory slots on top of the space for everything
I ofc k ow there are black french people šš
best loot and no name, sad
Get the Time Machine!
why does the new prism give me only half the real points ihad before? i had40ish or more and now it shows 21
i had spent like, all 100 arcs on weapon and pact slots so kinda surprised i didnt get any back
but hey i got like 30+ slots left
I got like 200 arcs back
Thatās how many lithes you have left
dawg, thats 39
Went from 3223 to 3463
when i try to to rebalance it gives me less imma test it more but i end up with less points than before
Try going back out and in
its a consumable to change the stats
it will apply any bonus virtue from talismans and stuff after
the number next to the word rebalance is how many of the consumables you have
the stat spread shown depicts 39 total virtue points
how do the consumable work? i don't get it
Whenever you pick a new stat allocation it spends one of your consumables
I do not like the UI when speccing
but when i do that i end up with less than i had before (overall)
what do you not get? you use them, and that consumes one.
Less consumables or less stats?
wait they added that armour now had capacity but i cant sell armour ?! that is terrible
you get more points to use based on mr level tho im on like 61 but still got loads of things to actually level
less stats or maybe i am blind i will experiment more later cause i noticed something weird (what i mentioned) commited reverted then closed the game
So, I think it's speccing your base stats, excluding your talisman/pact bonuses
Which is why the numbers suddenly jump when you release the selector
That would make sense tbh
when you are changing your virtues, they dont display bonuses from quests, talisman, temporary buffs, or pact upgrades.
It also definitely didn't know my actual stats when it first converted me
here, look. these are my total stats
Yeah, when I first logged in yesterday it had me at 18/18/6
as i am adjusting them, it displays the base values
so you have 38 from spendable points then 24 from other bonuses?
Yeah that looks funky
is that currency for reskilling?
YES
bruh now you need to pay to reskill existing attributes?
yeah
which you can get from the Agari and Curlail rn iirc
but its really not that bad
which most likely, you are gonna be doing anyways
Did you not read the patch notes? xD
To be clear, you spend a currency, these cannot be purchased AFAIK
why would they even do that? THEY LEGIT DELETED THE OLD SYSTEM BECAUSE IT ALLOWED FREE RESKILLING VIA POINTS THEN CREATED THE PRISMS SYSTEM AND REVERTED TO OLD BUT WITH PAID RESKILLING?
Not paid
still free just an added step kill things
the prisms solved the issue of loadouts not saving skill distribution
you dont spend any irl money on em, unless you bought the Wyld packs, then you get like3 for each? or was it 9 for each?
3 each I think? Patch notes has the exact breakdown
they weren't added to reduce your control, but to make swapping loadouts more convenient
3 for each wyld pack. 9 total
there we go
well it is a currency why not just leave the original system then where it didn't require any currency or make it free like it was before
after yesterday patch the game crash a lot
i think they just wanted to give you more reasons to go after agari cause once you get everything they pointless
future monetization, probably
(original system with loadout persistence fixes)
yeah you could just have different loadouts for your main scaling types
like i got a middle ground loadout and a Grace/Spirit loadout
honestly i think they are the only somewhat interesting thing left in the game, besides arenas and sieges
bosses that last more than a few seconds ? lol
I vastly preferred Prisms for various reasons but I don't think the Liths are predatory, you get plenty to test with.
I'm not a fan of the new system but I do think the anger at the respecc tokens is a bit misplaced, I don't think that's the main issue for me
use worse weapons, or do cogah
Bosses get buffed, but Duelo 3 with rune charges still murks everything
they dont last much longer on cogah
kill Nimrod with your fists, then get back to me
i mean they can depending on what weapons or abilities you use
No cloudquell
are you telling us to beat our rod?
i hate the nim nim
Mimrod
i never use it XDDDDDDDDDD
mirifuir fist speedrun
imagine if they add fist weapons
The new system gives the freedom of the original without the need to be adding points manually every time you have one, it auto distributes points according to your preference.
Other than the need for a currency, this seems like the best of both worlds
who up beating they rod
i think, mainly the reason they added a currency cost to the new system, aside from a possible future monetization source, is to maintain the investment of getting previous prisms.
solid
am serching for better lol
like i could imagine some people complaining because they paid (in part) for a Wyld Oscelda prism, and now anyone can have that for free
Yeah but before we were going to obtain them in special ways, wasn't a grind like this currency is
we dont know that
i can't really see them monetizing it ._.
Steve did say in one of the very early streams that changing virtue point distributions wouldn't be free for forever š
The special way is for the wyld pacts not the prisms
get that with the heavy attack speed and voltaic and i think you will have like all the best ones for a heavy attack weapon
or like.... "whenever you want as many times as you want"
i think DE is in the "Adding Consequences" phase lol
It was going to be for some prisms too
They said so on stream
yeah the point distro thing we had at first felt more like a placeholder than anything
*spoiler alert: Steve did once also say that dying wouldn't stay as a consequenceless thing for forever
*
thats my point
I don't like it when the majority of the game is hunting down various weapons/armors/pacts
even now, dying in a seige lessens your rank
But it'll be fine
it still is pretty early ALPHA, we arent even in the Beta testing phase yet
Isn't that any online game? You do the story then all that's left is grinding things
"Yes Steven." We all say in unison
I like the grind. But then to utilize the reward for the grind there to be more friction? Not my fave
Sounds like a good time to me š
What the red flag here means?
it means steve hates me specifically
UPGRADES AVAILABLE
But hey - 16 loadouts for the spread starting points, then focus further via talisman, whatevs
skill points in your pact or weapon tree
It means you have upgrades available
which is ANNOYING when you have them already maxed out
Im pretty sure I have also lol
Yeah, once they're maxed they should get a neat border and stop bugging ya
so... 'A Bicameral's Biography'. I stand here talking to Orlick, looking at his quest that says 'Speak with Orlick', and I wonder how I can speak more to someone than when I'm speaking to them already
Someoneās got a feedback thread up about it so hopefully itās fixed soon, itās dumb af lol
I GOT NOTHIN TO SPEND MY POINTS ON RAAAA
Talk to em while you talk to em
real
Orlicks ui did get an update
...Ok, maybe it's not a daily system then?!
Not daily.
I talked to them like 5 times last night in two hours
I guess they can just randomly appear and give you 22-hour affinity boosters within an hour of each other?
no. i mean i'm talking to Orlick, in his new updated UI, and it says 'Speak with Orlick"
wait wait wait... we got AFFINITY BOOSTERS NOW
yup, makes leveling weapons a breeze
Thank Alca lmao
Yup!
like, don't bother doing endless, it would be faster, but now you can actually jsut have normal fun while leveling
Yeah magic campitalist-mal gave me several thousand minutes of xp boost
Tbh, despite having almost all the weapons n pacts I still have yet to do cogah
Wait, y'all don't just run loops around the pensive tower killing level 1s?
Need to find peeps to do a proper run with sometime

I've got two friends who I know have soulframe installed/updated and keep saying they'll play it but they never do smh
honestly Cogah is really easy as long as you dont be stupid and rush into a group of enemies
I'm stupid 
lmao
Sadly, the survivability onion doesn't work in soulframe
Time to get new friends smh lol
Siegmeyer would like to know your location
Tip for cogah tho, get the pact perk that gives you HP on smite. saves on potions
huuuuuge tip
for me it was Orengall
Oh, I always go for that one
no but fr, how do i complete 'A Bicameral's Biography'? I'm lookin' at Orlick, and i'm supposed to speak with orlick, but he ain't speakin
He should be in your nightfold now
That, and I've been sticking to the Wyld pacts since they get to fill out almost their entire arts tree
I am IN the nightfold.
Huh, try relogging maybe?
Those extra virtue points are very nice when your pact/weapon of choice isn't courage-focused
Did you speak to orlick at luminns too?
IIRC his ghost is chilling there
no, ill go try and find other-him
seems to be a bit bugged rn tho. very inconsistant
yeah that's it. he wasn't here before. Thank you
there's a note you can interact in the second floor of the college of pensive
like, rn isn't the best time to cogah
if the enemy dies, then the smite doesnt do anything
Sometimes
it seems to have to do SOME damage to activate all your smite stuff
which will lead you to do a backstory section
Like half of my post-death smites are treated as a smite, tis weird
i have found as long as it hasnt been too long since they died it should work, like before they hit the ground and their hp bar vanishes
wait... is Orlick the old guy or the baby-pauldron?
huh then you are lucky
Can we discuss cogah??
Like it feels like it needs a big update for the cogah
Its very meh
since like 2 preludes smite when they are dead hasnt worked for me
cuz... 'meeting like-minded babies'. Is this a toddler piloting a ghost-mech or something?
Bosses should drop better rewards from cogah tbh
oh yeah Cogah is pretty much not in a good spot rn
Like steelpath in wf for example
RN they only drop special runes in Cogah
yeah its very underwhelming
There is some cogah specific runes and talismans
i mean yeah thats pretty much it its boring
Will hopefully get expanded over time though, especially since this is allegedly the starting island
There should be pacts or weapons that drop only from cogah
wait wait whatt
Honestly, if they made the respec currency more common in Cogah, that would be a start
shiit so new enclaves might be added
RNG drops might be a good path for this, increased chances for higher rarities, unique perks, etc
there are rumors that we might even get to go to Idris... THE MOON.... it might be haunted tho
Omg btw i got a question whats new in midrath in the update i read smth bout midrath not of our own with ghosts and gods what does that mean and how to find
like better ranks for tempers
OMG WTF
You can see people at trees now like dark souls bonfires
More critters
Theyāre ghosts
do they do anything
bats and bears and gerbils and weasels (omg weasels) and cats? Owls lizards wolves... need more critters
Tbh i think there's some little stuff that can make the game cooler
They exist and you can check out their gear in a little popup
i want to charm a weasel and it does a little wardance and then gets in my hand
YES!!
like for example why dont they add vendors from the villagers where we can accept tasks from them for exchanging rewards
maybe in the future. still pretty early in the development
You should put stuff like this in a feedback post ^^
omggg whereeee
I would love to
as much as I complain about the significantly increased walking distance to the leader for the Silent Rose enclave they do have one major advantage: their agents are actually tangible and way easier to see
at least compared to Kith
its the Feedback Forums #1438224662344761345 iirc
Does someone know which ennemies entry of the codex has be reset since last patch ? I was at 67/68 and since the patch 66/68. It looks like Gawth, Sontaro, Kylst or one of the sinecure officer, but I have them
Anara or Sympos?
probs Anara
We so need a way to use a synsylk grappler to rappel down from the ceiling hole into the main cistern of the enclave
Love stoats. Made a D&D character from a tribe that viewed all who walk as kin. Had a Stoat 'brother' that was too bloodthirsty, he was trying to teach patience and calm to a stoat. Seven foot Orc Barbarian, tiny thumb-sized doom gerbil. Name him Mysh'ubiytza (Meeshoo Bweetza). Means "Murder Mouse" in Russian.
hmm that's a feedback thread brewing
No they just exist and let you check out their gear in a little menu, theyāre other players nearby
Itās basically the same as dark souls bonfire ghosts
they're the ghosts of other players , like in the souls games
Okay there is technically a non-zero chance that DE might add this https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1504096763076804749 š
You made Minsc and Boo?
I wonder if they will add feature of coloring thr weapons
It was pointed out to me later that these two existed. I'd never heard about them before. But I rolled an 18 for strength, and the idea struck me as funny. Was watching Ozzy the Desk Weasel and thought that a massive Orc tank trying to teach a tiny murder-gerbil patience was funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CTVqt2wxU
Yup, he loves to play. So do I. But before I get to go online and start killing, I'm being camped by this fearless fighter. But then again; his ping is so much lower than mine...
Disclaimer: A weasel is not a pet. They hate being locked up, they're not friendly when hungry. Don't get one. Seriously. Ozzy is a special case rescue baby. Cute, but ...
I have anara and toshtan (previously named kyslt - and I have Kylst too). I don't have sympos but on wiki it is said : Banneret Sympos is named "Sinecure Elite Soldier". Can you confirm you have a Sympos-named entry ?
I mean, for the record, Boo is technically a Miniature, Giant, Space Hamster,
I'm not sure, I don't really pay attention to my journal entries
(Sympos is the guy who appears during Organs in case you were wondering)
Yeah I know, I did it before but it was named Sinecure Elite Soldier in the codex.
There are 4 sinecure elite soldier in the codex. I gonna count if I have the four
yes I have four of them, so that is not sympos
actually terrible idea, as all this would do is make cogah the only place worth doing and jsut lead to worse grinds and get the whole community to build around beating it
where have i seen that before...
John Restroot š
what if they made a cool weapon and called it ignes mora
what would be cool I hope it does fire damage
guys anyone had this problem: if i try to sell a weapon my game stuck here
yeah just right click to sell the wepon
and i can't do anything just alt f4 and restart game
yeah i can't sell either
right click on the wepon
there is a bug report channel here?
goo?
don't work
no, I can right-click to sell. but then the game has the loading shade with the bird, never completes and i have to alt-f4. I can't sell runes either.
Goo.
gawdamn this game so pretty āØ
Is 5 stats the max?
i've heard 6 would be 
what are the plain bars below my highly stylized ui
literally just had the same convo on the other channel
there was a screenshot a few hours ago with 8.. : #envoy-gathering message
aah, but you're not complaining about vasp fragments anymore... Progress! || š||
i see thanks
so happy for you š„°
wat
I mean tbf, I think this is better cause atleast I could potentially get a nice roll, or I can just leave them laying on the floor
More liquid I think
asking for keys isn't actually allowed in this server, sorry
Deleted. My bad
ther are instructions on how to get access in this pinned message though:
#envoy-gathering message
and there'll be another twitch drop on the 26th if you can make it
so is the rarity of the mace 100% random or related to enemy level or?
related to enemy level... and type? idk bout that one. level definitely
Think it is best the assume it is gonna be based on enemy level
That way youāll also get more xp for leveling gear
I really only got two of the maces tbh all military grade
How's my Titan fashion?
my first was officer with 4.. i thought that wasn't bad..
I have found that the mace w electric temper and 35% dmg dealt to nearby enemies makes for a rather devious group clear weapon
Fire š£ļø š„
hi how do i find the in game store to buy weapons using premium currency
why would you buy weapons using premium currency ._.
Capitalism Camel in the nightfold
thanks
Hey-ho Silver, away!
finally made it to the island
so returning player how in the heck do i use runes now? lol
they introduced mounts?
i see
from... the devbuild specifically
fascinatingly empty
so anything new that I can farm on this p14.5? i had everything before this
how did u reach that tp sir
you can swim there now
oh nice
a new heavy mace got added
preview of the P15 weapon drop system
we get random perks now
wym random perks?
anyone know how runes work now?
check keybinds and assign a button or try spectral vision + heavy attack
how can i get soulframe now?
smite to charge, spectralsight+heavy attack or the rune specific keybind to activate
just need a code for it
pinned messages have info on that
where did the mace wielding agari spawn again?
northwest near the pit in some ruins if you're talkin about the overworld one
@tacit locust I sent you a code š¤ check dms
So im doing 3 star mission so i can switch faction cause i want to get my first gear set for my char, but ive done like 2 mission in a row and i didnt get any faction xp, is that a bug ?
Maybe they have daily cap like in warframe
there is a daily cap at 16K yeah
Wtf
the rep items that enemies drop will bypass the cap tho
You can still sell those standing items though right
Yeahh
That doesnt make any sense....
why... not?
The items have a cap of 50 so you can't farm more
until you sell them yeah
Pretty high cap considering how much they sell for
So now i have to wait and whole day irl before i can finally switch factions ?
ok so selling the maces from your inventory still occasionally bricks the game
Or farm enemies for rep drops
Does that give you faction xp ?
If you press favours on a rep NPC, press sell, you can sell items for faction xp
Yeah kinda new here so no clue what a rep drop is tbh
these 3 items
Every faction has an item they favour for high price, dont sell the ones with lower pricing, another faction wants them
Oooh i have plenty of those, so im with the rose enclave, do i need to go to the lady in the inn to sell them there ?
Aaaah okey well im gonna do that, thanks for the help, and sorry been playing this for like a week now, still learning
you can sell all of them to her but the stratagems will yield the most rep per item with her
Well im gonna try that thanks allot !
asking for keys isn't actually allowed here, sorry
there's info on how to get access in this pinned message though:
#envoy-gathering message
and there's a twitch drop on the 26th for a guaranteed invite if you can make it
soo does cogah influence the rarity of the orst
Oh, ok, so it seem the craftwork of an item jsut affect either it's attunement cap or something, as they all have the same base damage
no one actually knows. apparently levels, help, but from personal testing, i still got garbo drop rates in that mode, so i jsut farm normal enemies in the south
Anyone else annoyed by the permanent "Upgrades available" prompt? It was annoying before in the weapon arts selection, but now Nightfold is triggering
It keeps my "You have unread messages in your inbox" bugged prompt company 
Lol
Oh lord
Oh no u still have that?
CAPATALIZM CAMEL
Please don't ask for keys here Envoy
you can check how to get access/keys in the pinned messages, or watch the next Envoy Hour in 2 weeks
ok, thank you
nice now doors glow
Another question tho :
Is this the totem i need to make so i can switch factions ?
Yeah
Okidoki thanks!! just wanted to know for sure!
I need a god roll nettle immediately
Isn't it only the Mace that can get rolled with modifiers currently?
Yes but I need the nettle with a god roll
please keep it clean
š
Just got my first one š
I've farmed ~20 so far, highest I got was 4
where u farming these?
what are those?
New mace weapon they added, that can be rolled with modfiers
Anyone have a spare key?
what the hell is this
Ohhh is that going to be a thing going forward with gear? I havent had a chance to watch this weeks envoy hour
Orengall the omen beast
yes thank i know who it is but ive not yet seen this menu
ask her if she wants to come back to the nightfold tent pls
She and other omen beasts can now be encountered in the overworld
Impidh Dermak entrance
Granting you buffs
are they permanent
They last many hours
oh
Real Time temporary buffs
You can easily find another before they run out
1380mins
...well okay then
