envoy-gathering

[spiral crag]

Thanks! i hope they add more customizations for wazzard clothes, the ones we have go really hard

its like duelo, i always give them some time at the start out of respect for the fight

i wish they add the emote to bow for us to use in the duelo start

[surreal basalt]

We do have two

Not the exact same mestra uses but we do have bow emotes

[spiral crag]

but we cant use it in the fight start (at least i wasnt able to)

[surreal basalt]

You can there is a mechanic where the fight is "easier" if you bow

[spiral crag]

Wait really?

[surreal basalt]

Some people say having her be more agressive for not bowing is better because she attacks more often and so they can parry more

[surreal basalt]

Yup

[surreal basalt]

There is a window after you gain control and before she attacks

Or at least should be if it didnt break lol

[spiral crag]

ok i have to try it then

Ok so it was just bugged for me because now i was able to access my emote wheel

and the fight is significantly easier lmao

so i was just being disrespectful to the Mestre this whole time my bad

[surreal basalt]

Lol it happens

[dense surge]

Been searching everywhere and I cannot find "Runner of the Rose"

[inner cosmos]

Is it just me, or is there no audio cue for when to parry? I know it most games they have a very quick, very small audio sound that gives you a heads up when to parry. Is this one just visual?

[dense surge]

I hear a 'ting' when I do

[surreal basalt]

Think they mean not when you achieve it but when you are supposed to press the button

[dense surge]

oh.. yeah. no cue

[surreal basalt]

Now that you mention it cant say i remember one yeah

I assume they can fix it with time but yeah for now nothing

Just hope the cue properly works unlike the ones in space marine 2

[weak jetty]

yeah i got rather confused when i heard the parry noise when i tried to block

after a bit of trying to learn it i just stoped bothering trying to do parrys or blocks and just rushed for the kill or doged it was more relyable and consistant

[inner cosmos]

okay, i wanted to make sure it wasnt just me not hearing anything, or if there was a setting i was missing

[weak jetty]

yeah no they forgot to add a cue for what you can parry

[inner cosmos]

I hope they do add an audio cue though. That would be a very helpful addition

[weak jetty]

a audio cue and visual like acting a purple arua on the weapon or something

[surreal basalt]

Actiually should be good to put it in #1438224662344761345

[inner cosmos]

I guess I shall

[jade wedge]

@plush rose exporting now

[plush rose]

Heck yea, send in DM tho

[weak jetty]

already did

[jade wedge]

You can tell me if you think the vision was met haha. Hard to put 4 hours of quests and cinematics into a 4 minutes song XD

[plush rose]

Let's see XD

[nocturne yew]

whens wall sliding update

[dense surge]

after swimming :p

[nocturne yew]

🫸 🫷 😔

[simple mason]

#gameplay-discussion message

[inner gull]

ok

[frail lynx]

Hi! I tried your mail a mod thing, it doesn't seem to be working. Can you tell me what's the policy on posting links here?

[simple mason]

Modmail is answered by the DE Community team who do not work weekends

[frail lynx]

oh

[simple mason]

Only whitelisted links are allowed, which IIRC are the official site and social media channels, as well as YouTube etc for sharing bug reports and the like

[restive coyote]

also the dastardly avakot.org
super scary third party app

[frail lynx]

so, no github links for the doodads?

[simple mason]

No sorry

[frail lynx]

aight, fair enough. That's why i've asked

[inner cosmos]

tis done... https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1500569617318281276

[frail lynx]

also, that bit about modmail not working weekends, i think it should be in the post that explains the modmail

[simple mason]

I believe it is?

[frail lynx]

it is, it says at the bottom in teeny tiny letters that all replies occur on weekdays

https://giphy.com/gifs/south-park-d-tLQsxE8WYY9Ko

should have read the full policy before clicking accept

i would have gotten to that apple centipede if it was real

[midnight belfry]

stuck in Salzbrim looking for these history motes. only found one, been through 3 day night cycles and nothing else popping up

[frail lynx]

relog

[hybrid pasture]

bruh gruulseeker ruthos fell out of the floor and died from the fall damage and votive completed

rip loot, certain finisher animation still so buggy at times

[untold tiger]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[hybrid pasture]

why it keep coming back

[analog plover]

public server and people who can see the word written on the ceiling

[scarlet mesa]

Its not a single person, its a bot that propigates via other peopels accounts, people who fall for it get their Discord account taken and then the bot posts it everywher on that account

[analog plover]

thankfully we havent gotten the two new ones that hit the WF server recently

[sturdy geyser]

The crypto gang at it again

[hybrid pasture]

but its the same exact post too

[analog plover]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-gif-27372983

[hybrid pasture]

me when people STILL uses mrbeast pictures to scam

[sturdy geyser]

I see Elon musk now

[scarlet mesa]

Ive seen both Elon and Mr beast

[analog plover]

i think ive seen iShowspeed, Elon, and Mr beast

[hybrid pasture]

mr beast doesn't even make that much money, due to costs

[scarlet mesa]

He does now

Considering he is now ALL OVER cable TV and streaming places

[hybrid pasture]

but doing all of that is still costing even more to gain more and repeat

[scarlet mesa]

He makes enough to live an extremely comfortable life is all im saying

[hybrid pasture]

I would say more of less.. a little volatile

[scarlet mesa]

There is no volatility on interest from banks, 5 mil in savings, You are making 200k/year from that. Im sure hes not dumb enough to not have any more stashed in a savings for his personal use while having the majority of his wealth being put back into his projects.

[hybrid pasture]

wait whattt, I got votive to go to undercity to kill a benneret, but he's.. on the surface, I kills him and the votive completes????

[pliant lintel]

now? strenge, you'd expect less scams with him since he's kinda universally hated. then again, it might be the same trick as having those typos in scam mail, it's to filter.

[pliant lintel]

went outside for a smoke

[hybrid pasture]

to be vanquished

[hybrid pasture]

well, at least he's more humane than some others

[scarlet mesa]

Partly Filter the people who wont fall for it and because Elon was named the most wealthiest person in america at one point iirc

One of the most*

[pliant lintel]

I know for the cash, but it's more that he's seen as kind of a joke or big villain.

[untold tiger]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[stone cliff]

ez bot

[pliant lintel]

Mister beast tho makes the most sense. he's big with kids, and well, they are easy to convince to get mom's credit's card

and it'S hillarious that one of the bot would pop up as i typed that XD

[hybrid pasture]

indeed it has appear

[stone cliff]

in assets hes the richest I think

[hybrid pasture]

elon did kickstart the popularity to start making EVs

[stone cliff]

in money I have no clue

[scarlet mesa]

majority of money from rich people are in Assets and not true cash

[stone cliff]

there are a ton of undisclosed oil arabs

[scarlet mesa]

Because its a way to get around taxes and shit by doing that

[stone cliff]

and those have a shit ton of cash

[pliant lintel]

anyway, enough real world stuff, let's talk about how amazing the look of the ode is, and how they really nailed it for the metaphor for colonialism and industrialisation destroying everything we hold dear 😄

[stone cliff]

those dont have taxes lol

[stone cliff]

I think a better topic would be talking about how evil avakot is

and how he is lying to everyone

[pliant lintel]

you're jsut coping and seething because he keeps beating you at regatta

[analog plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fccd-boiled-cabbage-kara-spongebob-fried-chili-cheese-dogs-gif-15353711148459897985

[stone cliff]

I won more times than we won against me tbh

its fairly easy to win

[scarlet mesa]

Ive played 19 rounds of Regallia and only lost once

[stone cliff]

correct

[stone cliff]

I dont know how many but I only remember losing once lol

[hybrid pasture]

🥑

me when ui bugs agasin

[scarlet mesa]

Avakot is a love child between sauerkraut and Avacados

[white otter]

with surströmming as personality

[hybrid pasture]

hmm

seems about right

man only missing silitvp and seathornnn

[sturdy geyser]

Hacker

[hybrid pasture]

what

[sturdy geyser]

Inspect element

[hybrid pasture]

???

[sturdy geyser]

Yes

[hybrid pasture]

what are you even talking about

[random prism]

Things beyond our mortal comprehension.

[night girder]

inspect element

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-laser-eyes-angry-cat-cyclops-nara-gif-26030753

[hybrid pasture]

inspect what element???

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-unsure-i'm-out-13-seconds-i'm-in-13-seconds-confused-maybe-maybe-not-gif-14185473161479751592

don't u get it bro?

inspect element is the friends we made along the way

https://tenor.com/view/thofinn-gif-27635363

[hybrid pasture]

I shall cast mada upon thee

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-meme-golden-freddy-itsme-its'me-gif-11904115456109211613

[sturdy geyser]

Inspect element is a browser tool that lets u see code on a page and change some stuff

[hybrid pasture]

I know that, but inspect what thing's element???

[night girder]

no no, it's the friends we made along the way

[sturdy geyser]

Guess i have to explain the joke

[random prism]

I mean, not really? Good luck tryna change anything's code with that unless they have literally 0 security.

[sturdy geyser]

Or do i

[sturdy geyser]

Well u know what i mean

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/lerolero-itswill-do-this-dance-cat-hands-dance-gif-15634157831569175603

[sturdy geyser]

Slander, misinformation

[night girder]

nuh uh

[sturdy geyser]

I will not accept

[night girder]

nuh uh

[sturdy geyser]

I mean DE does use Lua scripts for certain UI elements

I ought to mess with that one day

And hope i don't get banned

[hybrid pasture]

what is even happening here

[night girder]

friends along the way stuff

[sturdy geyser]

Lol

[sturdy geyser]

Inspect element to change UI, ur envoy level

[hybrid pasture]

maybe the rogtov motes are the friends we made along the way

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[sturdy geyser]

Ah the motes

[silent basalt]

where would be the proper place to share screenshots?

[sturdy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-the-light-the-shadowman-hug-the-sun-gif-13172340538648155975

[hybrid pasture]

as long its related, here is fine

[sturdy geyser]

#1185638050651443210

[hybrid pasture]

huh, thats a thing

[visual adder]

do you think the Soulframe Founders Art Card purposely has the Oscelda and Sirin colors swapped?
cause it makes sense originally maybe Oscelda was Blue (mana) and Sirin green (stamina)

[sturdy geyser]

They changed it

Think they just changed their minds

[hybrid pasture]

I'd say blue fits grace more, so, sneaky under the moon

[visual adder]

yeah, I also like green for Oscelda (nature=life)
i'm just surprised the Founders Merch has the swapped version

[hybrid pasture]

the motif is correct I think

[errant geyser]

sooo. just joined the server to ask a friend. do i have to wait for the next devstream so that my friend can play with me? because that seems to be the only way to get access atm?

[hybrid pasture]

envoy time can also give access for watching the stream, on 12 iirc

but everyday 2000 players get access anyway, and there's also codes people recieves to give people

[maiden fossil]

Sup everyone how is this game ? It caught my eye on a friend's channel

[silent basalt]

Alright, just shared my screenshot. SoulFrame working on Arch Linux. if anyone has any questions, let me know.

[sturdy geyser]

What kinda setup u got

Low end or

[woven siren]

Pre alpha, so subject to change. But peak rn

[random prism]

Every wednesday, but yes.

Every day would be a lot lmao.

[hybrid pasture]

dunno man

[nova spade]

Are the stat triforce thingy from Wyld better than regular ones? They seem they seem to have high scaling or sth

[sturdy geyser]

It's the same

Wylds one has cosmetic effect

[hybrid pasture]

wyld doesn't have higher stats, BUT if you level both the wyld and normal versions, their upgrade points are shared up to 60 when both are max, and shiner style

[maiden fossil]

That's cool.. I signed up how long does it usually take to gain access do you have an idea?

[random prism]

The prisms? They're arguably the best prisms right now, good focus in one stat but without the failings of the all-ins.

I use wyld teth. They don't give more stats, just a particularly good distribution.

[hybrid pasture]

oh the prisms

[random prism]

I run a 33/15/15 virtue split right now, Courage-leaning.

[hybrid pasture]

it just depends on your builds

[woven siren]

In order of sign up

[simple mason]

The invites are random, 2000 every Wednesday, however if you watch an Envoy Hour livestream for 30 minutes you'll get access as a Twitch Drop, next one is on the 12th

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014350836400218

[woven siren]

^^

[random prism]

It's just random yeah.

[woven siren]

Best way to get it tbh

[maiden fossil]

Ooh okay cool

[random prism]

I think they tweaked it cus people had been waiting for years while others got in after months.

But it's still to some degree random.

As far as I know at least.

[woven siren]

You could buy founders pack if you want access right away

Thats the 3rd option

[maiden fossil]

Yeah but I don't want to spend money on something I don't know if ama be playing long. But if I end up getting a code eventually.. and I enjoy the game and like it I'll get it to support prolly get the 99 dollar one

[fast crescent]

I’ll just send you a code in dms if that’s okay?

I have a ton lol

[maiden fossil]

That would be appreciated

[fast crescent]

Yep no problem

[frosty juniper]

I demand a photo mode DE!!!!!!

[sour glade]

hello there! I having a hard time getting the motes to spawn at the Rovgot Ruins... is that normal?

[frosty juniper]

Do you logout and login again after you get a mote ?

[sour glade]

yes

[frosty juniper]

hmm okay
do you walk far away from that spot and come back again to it ?

so it shows you if there is a mote or not

[sour glade]

I go to the ramp on the other side of the area

but I keep spawning at the tree when I re-log

[frosty juniper]

I didn't face any issues tbh with the motes
if it's let's say 1 out of 3 motes available I keep searching until I find it
then log out and log in and if it spawned me near that spot I make sure to walk far away from it and come back until the name of this area pop up in the middle of my screen with the motes available

[sour glade]

spawn area

[frosty juniper]

and the area u are looking to explore?

[stuck linden]

Is there anything exclusive to Cogah beyond Runes?

[white otter]

3 talismans

[stuck linden]

Because now I have all the runes and the talismans, so I might as well quit my cogah early

[sour glade]

this is what I got, first two runs I saw motes after that never again

[sour glade]

at the marker

[frosty juniper]

That's a big area
you made sure to look around every spot there ?

[sour glade]

It supose to be inside the dungeon, the first two runs the motes where in the boss room and I collected them, after that never again

[frosty juniper]

Weird...I didn't see any motes inside any dungeons at all...

The one I found there was outside in that big waste area

Still missing 1 or 2 tho can't remember

[sour glade]

outside I only collected/saw the ones neer the bell used to summon the agari

[frosty juniper]

Tbh I have no idea...never saw motes inside dungeons at all

[sour glade]

but the ones I colected inside the dungeon opened that entry in the journal

I had a bug that when I died outside mu boddy just stayed in the floor and the mobs where sopped and I had to exit the game with alt+f4 and after that no more motes where founded

[frosty juniper]

If that so this might be a bug

Hell..this might be a bug for me as well cuz i didn't see motes inside this place at all yet

1st dungeon they spawn motes inside...that's interesting

[random prism]

The motes spawn, but reportedly only a short while after entering for some reason, so some bugginess is likely afoot.

It's a time farming them.

But hey, delicious MR xp.

It's recommended to backtrack and search the dungeon again after clearing it.

I just waited 10 minutes at the entrance, ran it slowly, then relogged after exit and repeated.

Eventually got them all that way.

[frosty juniper]

Damn...i will need to check this place again

Shoved that stick up his ass!
you guys proud ? >:V

[sour glade]

I think I cracked the code cuz it worked

[stiff pecan]

Hello! By any chance anyone has an invitation code to spare? Trying to play together with a friend, they haven't received an invitation yet.

[teal lagoon]

So is there any fix to the launcher just absolutely trashing a computer when it's trying to update?

[sour glade]

OK what happened?
The first two runs I had made I started from the Boss room, and I got the motes, but after the dungeon showed in the map, I had sarted at the dungeon entrance in the map and never got a mote again, but I just started from the boss room again and got a mote

Yep, start from the boss room to get your motes guys

[random prism]

I just waited in the first room every time to make sure they had time to spawn.

But whatever works, either way it's a pain.

[jade wedge]

I been saying this since the beginning lol, pretty sure only the boss room or maybe one of the end rooms triggers the Motes. Think of it like the gate at Kairness.

[random prism]

I can confirm that isn't the case, as again, I just waited in the first room every time.

Then I walked through while checking rooms and got all my motes that way.

Without backtracking, just from start to end.

[sour glade]

Gotcha! thanks! but since this is working for me will continue to do it xD

[frosty juniper]

❤️ 🌲
it's freaking beautiful

I will never get bored of the visuals of soulframe bro

[hybrid pasture]

me when 100% gpu usage

[white otter]

99-100% is gud doe

[frosty juniper]

But so far the optimization of this game is really decent for it's current state

[frosty juniper]

also that's good thing :V if it's less something is wrong :V

[random prism]

Oh yeah this game is outstandingly stable for a pre-alpha.

[hybrid pasture]

it does freezes a lot if you have bad connection

[white otter]

either just fps lock causin it or a cpu bottleneck which in this games case is hard to achieve honestly 👀

[frosty juniper]

True.

[vestal crest]

Hi all

Anyone know what is causing this?

[white otter]

the window is for choosing the game installation location

put it somewhere other than that place it defaulted tho

[sour glade]

still wish I had my 400 FPS like in Warframe on Ludicrous quality instead of the 110 on High quality in Soulframe

[white otter]

basically impossible tho that

[hybrid pasture]

getting 220 fps on soulframe

[random prism]

I also get about this, 113, but it flickers during certain things so I lock it to 75.

[inner cosmos]

i usually sit around 180 fps with everything on epic

[random prism]

Cus I don't like sudden fps changes.

And at 75 it's like, rock-hard stable.

[white otter]

LIAR!!!
there ain't no epic settings...

[vestal crest]

thank you...game is working

[sour glade]

Still: AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT, AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 64Gig RAM and only 110 FPS in dungeons mind you 93 in the forest setting is kinda hard to swallow

[inner cosmos]

hehe

[sage mountain]

how do you emote in game?

[white otter]

basically what i'd expect tho honestly

tho... 110 in dungeons...? wat... why so low on a 9070xt

[white otter]

hold X, then right click

[inner cosmos]

in all seriousness. i have a 4090, 9950x3d and 64gb of ram and i usually sit around 120-130 with everything at max settings. its pretty consistent across the board. But im also using Frame Gen and DLSS, so that probably helps a bit

[white otter]

on 4k im guessin...?

[inner cosmos]

yes

[white otter]

yeh

[sour glade]

don't like frame gen, prefer TAA

[white otter]

have you tried AFMF?

[inner cosmos]

Im going to be completely honest... I dont know the difference between them all so i kinda just go with the recommended DLSS 4.5 and then i usually pick quality

[random prism]

I dislike frame gren so I just run DLSS on balanced.

And that's just to make my laptop run less hot.

[frosty juniper]

Playing with gtx 1660 super here
all high but shadow is medium and fog is low
the rest is at highest possible

indoor areas like dungeons I get about 80 to 90 FPS
in the open world 60+ (FSR is disabled btw)

[random prism]

I can maintain it on native, but it gets a little warm.

[white otter]

askin because i have and there ain't basically any noticeable latency increase and visuals stay basically identical with just added smoothness

[random prism]

And again I like my FPS to be as perfectly stable as possible.

[sour glade]

That pascal architecture xD

[frosty juniper]

hold on lemme go translate this word real quick :V

english fails me once more :V

[random prism]

Man, attempting to sell something still occasionally soft locks you.

I am somewhat frustrated by this.

[sour glade]

I gave my pc with RTX to my nephew since I switched to linux and a full AMD setup is better for linux

[white otter]

who is this "someone" who's frustrated by it?

[frosty juniper]

I'm just thankful that my old rig still working until now

Here...have eye orgasim guys :V

[white otter]

thanks but i'll stick to my Preludes 1.3 vibes

[frosty juniper]

Both are good

we need more weather tho

[frosty juniper]

I hope that is something they are gonna do in the future

[white otter]

they have mentioned wanting weather and seasons yes 👀

[frosty juniper]

ooooooo epic

Rainy stormy weather!!!!!

[white otter]

ok another

ignore teshins hat skycastle

[random prism]

I wonder if they've gotten rid of Fey's mastery XP still counting.

[white otter]

yes

[random prism]

Cus that was still in as of P12 at least.

[white otter]

with p14 they got rid of it yes

[random prism]

Nice.

[sour glade]

Havent done the cogah yet... there was none last time I played

[nova hamlet]

I wonder when founders will close

[white otter]

i'd kinda guess after tennocon

[sour glade]

Dam xD

[nova hamlet]

They're nearly 650 instances of the gardens

[hybrid pasture]

no prompt to do world treeeeee

[nova hamlet]

Lyon Allard ancestor looking ahh

[sour glade]

I'm only using this set cuz I read it helps with spawning the motes at the dungeon i'm farming them

[random prism]

I've always kept bloom low or off cus I don't like the sun being a giant damn spotlight that burns my eyes.

The reflection gets out of hand pretty fast.

I actually keep bloom on but at 0, cus for some reason all of the ancestor lighting just turns off if you turn bloom off, making them solid and blue.

And I don't like my Nightfold people being smurfs.

[hybrid pasture]

isn't that glare and film grain?

[random prism]

Nah, shit was still too bright with bloom active.

I guess I'm boring lmao.

[white otter]

distortions off? damn...

[white otter]

film grains an odd setting to keep on tho ngl 👀

[random prism]

I have sensory issues and I'm too distracted by stuff like that.

[white otter]

a

[random prism]

I hate the edges of my screen being different in any way.

Fks with my peripheral vision.

[sour glade]

ill try the 0 bloom to see what happens

Oh wow! the ancestors have skin collor? AUHUHAh thanks for the tip

[hybrid pasture]

film grain makes it looks like cinematic I suppose

[random prism]

Yeah, for some reason bloom being off makes them way different lol.

Have no clue why that's tied to bloom. Just being on or off too, as, again, I just leave it at 0.

[raw lagoon]

Hi everyone!

[white otter]

aloo

[hybrid pasture]

why does my face looks so... off

[white otter]

wdym off?

[random prism]

You look very done with everything lol.

[hybrid pasture]

is it shadow settings?

[white otter]

could be?

[sour glade]

shadow+ sharpen?

[random prism]

I like this one cus it stares into your soul.

[hybrid pasture]

hmm

[white otter]

oh shadows are on Low... yeah that could be it

[hybrid pasture]

better, but why eye still so dark

[stone cliff]

lack of sleep

[white otter]

because it's night i guess? maybe? dunno

go eep

[random prism]

See your face shows emotion.

I found this unacceptable for mine.

Iron within, iron without.

[spiral lintel]

Below shader quality the only thing i have on is bloom

[hybrid pasture]

whats ambience occlution

[frosty juniper]

Bruh...I sometimes see some random players in the nightfold with me 💀

[sour glade]

what is your sharpen %?

[spiral lintel]

It adds shadows around objects to simulate light shadows

[hybrid pasture]

its set on 4x rn, do I change to x8

[random prism]

Check your eyelash color.

It looks like you set it to black lol.

[frosty juniper]

It add shadows to the edges of things around the world such as boxes / walls etc etc so things doesn't look floaty and more realistic

[random prism]

Could be wrong though.

That's just my first guess.

[white otter]

don't think it has much of a performance cost but could make the game look a bit nicer

[sturdy geyser]

Any upscaling?

[hybrid pasture]

never went to the facial customization

[spiral lintel]

Drugs

[hybrid pasture]

drugs

[sour glade]

we give the ideas you test it out and screen it for us so we can figure it out

[spiral lintel]

That is your brain without a frame

[swift talon]

Holy moly I got three Dewe frags in a row

I know they changed the drop rates but this is crazy

[spiral lintel]

Vertical horizontal or diagonally

[swift talon]

Two from Kearn and one from Miri

[harsh holly]

Ру язычные есть ?

[hybrid pasture]

bruh hair cost 10 arcs?

[sour glade]

much better? what about performance?

[white otter]

english only here

[hybrid pasture]

I cap at 72frames, haven't turn on upscaling or no limit my frames

[random prism]

Ah, so the eyelashes were black.

Yeah it has some funny defaults.

[sour glade]

good boy!

[hybrid pasture]

180+ fps on midrath

[split hill]

that seems rather diddifuclt

[white otter]

[split hill]

I love a woman who can and willmurder me

[hybrid pasture]

that's a big one

[sturdy geyser]

Ur gpu's settings might be overriding the game's

[harsh holly]

How can I access the game now?

[hybrid pasture]

I turn my limit off, it went to 180+ without upscaling yet

[sturdy geyser]

U got Nvidia?

[white otter]

pinned messages have info on how to get access

mmmm if only the FPS bar wasn't there...

[sturdy geyser]

Other settings

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/kirara-hoshi-kirara-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-gif-10955110114009096279

[hybrid pasture]

what other settings

[sturdy geyser]

Do u have Nvidia or amd

[hybrid pasture]

well what about nvidia

[harsh holly]

I'm sorry for my English, I'm communicating through a translator, can someone give me a key to start playing and streaming this game?

[sturdy geyser]

Gpu

[hybrid pasture]

and I dont think nvidia app have settings for soulframe yet, it doesn't register

[white otter]

not allowed to ask for keys here

[random prism]

Psssh, I am the friendliest friend who ever friended, absolutely no murder here.

Does this look like a friend who would ever murder you?

Lookit that smile.

[sturdy geyser]

The default and global settings might be overriding things

[harsh holly]

ok sorry guys

[stone cliff]

I have a similar fit

mines more..... tribal

[hybrid pasture]

I guess theres no white hair colour

[stone cliff]

nope

[night girder]

you can get a key watching the envoy hour stream, it's a 30 minute drop
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014350836400218

[stone cliff]

I wanted to make myself a ciri and I cant :(

we need more customization in the future

[frosty juniper]

I would trust this one with my life......NEVER!!

[random prism]

Wow, rude. That face would never betray you.

If not friend, why big smile?

[sturdy geyser]

Just wait till you see vlad's look

[frosty juniper]

https://giphy.com/gifs/smile-grinch-maniacal-x7gjmBuaHrWak

[harsh holly]

Just waiting for the live broadcast?

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-legend-of-zelda-majoras-mask-skull-kid-gif-15076496676610914563

[hybrid pasture]

jesse, we need to cook

meth coloured hair

[night girder]

yeah, wait for it and then watch it for 30 minutes to get a key, you need to link your soulframe account to your twitch account

[harsh holly]

Yes, I've already tied everything up. I'll be waiting.

[hybrid pasture]

bruh where my t3

[sturdy geyser]

Oh yeah i don't get why sometimes there aren't 3 tales from the start

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/my-heart-arrow-and-bow-melt-gif-15911150

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-spinning-in-circles-gif-24754364

[split hill]

I love skull kid!

[night girder]

it's fine, it's there at home

🤙

[split hill]

I did it for you.

[hybrid pasture]

give me my xp and rep

[split hill]

already ate it

[night girder]

ou shi- its real

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[hybrid pasture]

guess I'll have to commit envoy canniblism

[split hill]

Mansplain? I prefer womansplaining where I confidently spread misinformation .

[nova spade]

What happened exactly 5 months ago? why most vids on YT are 5 mo,ths ago?

Big revamp or sth?

[ripe grotto]

Really looking forward to us getting some Facial Hair options, my character looks like a kid 😂

[stone cliff]

bc he is lol

but I agree

[split hill]

The universe came into being

[stone cliff]

cant wait to make my woman have a really nice long anf fluffy beard

just like I like them

[jade wedge]

We're basically medieval Halo Spartans

[split hill]

that would be nice, but I just wantlonger head hair

[stone cliff]

imo the hairstyles are not that great imo

I personally only like 1-2 hairstyles out of all of them

[fervent bloom]

gives me the borderlands feel.

[random prism]

I mean, eh? We're pretty close to human norm in appearance and build, we're just part fae and thus can use pact shenanigans.

Which is where our oomph comes from. That and main character energy.

[frail pebble]

Does anyone know if there's going to be face blending from warframe or something similar for more face customisation? I can't get my character to look like me and not my friend lmao.

[random prism]

We're not some hyper enhanced genetic aberration or anything.

[stone cliff]

more like plot armor lol

[surreal basalt]

Soulframe's? Like only 7 videos are from 5 months or less

[stone cliff]

I have no clue but sounds very likely

[nova spade]

There was a surge in interest about 5 months ago

[random prism]

About what I meant yeah. The 'there is nothing technically special about us except the fact that we're this universe's Chuck Norris cus we're player-controlled' energy.

[stone cliff]

I think steve mentioned that possibility in the future but I have no clue

[ripe grotto]

I would be kinda surprised if the current customization for the most part isn't just a placeholder, expect the hairstyles. Since this game has a lot more focus on our own character, so it makes sense to have more options or at least same options as our Warframe Operator, which we only use a fraction of the time 😄

[frail pebble]

Also colour options for armour and hair would be nice, I accidentally changed my hair colour and can't get it back to the original one now.

But I mean the customisation even now with all the different armour sets and stuff is already better than some games.

[white otter]

ok now im getting suspicious of a memory leak 👀

[hybrid pasture]

maybe the founder launch?

[white otter]

wat?

[hybrid pasture]

surge of interest or something

[random prism]

That would do nothing to VRAM.

That's purely personal.

[white otter]

[random prism]

More players wouldn't do anything but affect server connection.

And I notice my VRAM spiking occasionally today as well.

[white otter]

a general VRAM usage for me would be around 5.5-7.2GB depending on how long i've been exploring

or usual usage ig

[random prism]

Normally mine sits around 1.2 to 1.6 but has been spiking past 5.

[scarlet mesa]

mine sits between 2.9 and 5.6 out of my 8

sometimes spikes to 7

[jade wedge]

Man, do all the work to get to Cogah lvl 100 to try Mirifuir, and Kearnhold locks me in an invisible box XD

[pliant lintel]

rip

[placid hatch]

Hi

[pliant lintel]

hello!

[grave granite]

I'm playing oscelda. I just reached pact rank 15 and the game told me I just unlocked phantom flock, an ability I've been using for hours already lmao. Am I missing something?

[night girder]

like i saw ur name and this gif flashed before my eyes

[pliant lintel]

it's not unlocked, it's ranked up. it became better

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-how-it-feels-lies-gif-8610001828096601613

[maiden fossil]

for the devs here you go

[night girder]

you start with one ability at rank 0, while leveling up you unlock the other abilities and rank them up

[grave granite]

Ok good to know thanks. Do you know the max rank for abilities?

[pliant lintel]

ALso, would you look at the time! it's time for Kayro, yet again, advocating for player scaling because it's good and the game needs it!

And today i say that you want player scaling because it means better quality content, since it allow to be made to last rather than jsut the time of your grind

[pliant lintel]

you should go to #1438224825113120788 for that

[night girder]

i think it's rank 3? someone confirm

[night girder]

oh boy my favorite tvshow

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[stone cliff]

play for a year and never bugged like that lmao

[pliant lintel]

listening to good things do be better than hearing constant negative feedback

[maiden fossil]

lol it happens usually the small ones that slide thru the most

[night girder]

i just like to read what you have to say, you make good points

[pliant lintel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cute-shy-2--k01KQR10CVJ1XWBBNSV97G5VT4B

[maiden fossil]

has to force quit the game

[stone cliff]

what made you bug like that?

like what happened?

[maiden fossil]

but ama get back to it the peoples awaiting.. stay frosty yall

i got killed

[random prism]

It just happens sometimes when dying apparently, new soft lock.

[maiden fossil]

then just could nto respawn

[stone cliff]

ohh

[random prism]

They're aware though and working on it, as it's understandably important.

[stone cliff]

dunno what happened but this last preludes we had a lot of dying softlocks

[random prism]

The same thing happened in Duelo, they tried to fix it, and now it's happening everywhere.

[maiden fossil]

he killed me with his charge attack

[pliant lintel]

you could also jsut not die, silly /j

[maiden fossil]

and it phased me in the floor and bugged me lol

[stone cliff]

once you get better gear you basically dont die at all so I havent really had that happen to me

[maiden fossil]

he totally f me up lol

[random prism]

I mean, I didn't know about it until I saw several people reporting it for precisely this reason lmao.

[stone cliff]

In the most non flex way possible I havent died in a while lol

[maiden fossil]

i just started

[stone cliff]

I know

[random prism]

Still, it's an important issue cus soft locks are bad, but they'll get it fixed soonish.

[maiden fossil]

today

[stone cliff]

its normal to die at the start

[maiden fossil]

trying to find dude to craft armor at

just defeated stag

[white otter]

welp, sent off a support ticket about that possible memory leak

[stone cliff]

they are all around the starting area

[pliant lintel]

is that not the perfect segway to talk about this amazing thing that is player scaling? like, imagine being able to have engaging combat enywhere you go!

[maiden fossil]

i did

[stone cliff]

yep

I guess you are another one of those that hasnt died in a while LMAO

next time Im on I need to die to see if I bug out

[random prism]

Personally I've never been a fan of enemies just scaling to player level, as it diminishes your sense of progression and can even punish you just for climbing higher, as it's now harder to use new weapons or even just not the best ones.

It's better to just have areas with meaningful endgame content.

Rather than have enemies everywhere inflate.

[stone cliff]

you can have both

you can have enemies slightly inflate based on your stats but still make it area dependant

bc going to areas with lvl 20 or below enemies isnt that fun tbh we just 1 shot all of them

[random prism]

That's every game though, and is fixed by having more areas at higher level, which the game will eventually. We are, after all, only on the very first island.

You will eventually leave areas behind in pretty much every game ever, at least RPGs.

[pliant lintel]

not in a game like this where we have only one character. it's how you end with 90% of the game being boring and "wasted" because you can't find engagement in it

[maiden fossil]

in my opinion how the game is and how good it looks as a first time player and as today was the first day i heard about it. if they port it mmo style like eso expand map add a few mouts a couple more kill slots some dungeons raid bosses this game will bank

[random prism]

This is normal and not necessarily something that needs to be fixed, so long as there remains meaningful content somewhere.

I don't want early game enemies wrecking my shit the instant I swap to low level stuff to level them cus they're scaled to my progress.

[maiden fossil]

i like it how it is tho lol

[random prism]

That doesn't feel nice.

[pliant lintel]

also, considering that this will be a live service game, the longer the game lives, the less and less you'll be able to enjoy as your power grow.

[split hill]

I hate killing enmies in two se

[pliant lintel]

that's why you make the scaling around something that will work around that. in our case, we have virtues that do most of our number work. make enemies scale around that and poof, problem solved

[random prism]

Also this game will eventually have more MP shenanigans, and player scaling like that makes things jank.

[pliant lintel]

implement descaling to match the host. Nioh 2 did that and i can vouch for it

[random prism]

So that means you can't really play with friends who are newer and thus much lower MR than you.

[pliant lintel]

heck, nioh 2 show both type of scaling, and it works like a charm

[random prism]

Or at least you just aren't allowed to host without wrecking them.

[pliant lintel]

opposite, that makes it so you actually can

[random prism]

If it's just scaled to host, if they join your game they're fighting your enemy difficulty with their much weaker setup.

[pliant lintel]

then you ake them the host, or you make scaling be around the weakest member of your party

[random prism]

Every game has early content that people scale past, this is not an issue, again, so long as their is end content.

Making the whole game scale with you is just a slapdash attempt at a solution that I have never liked.

Cus it's never felt nice to have your progress invalidated like that.

[pliant lintel]

except your progress is still there, you get to do more and more, have better and better stuff

[random prism]

And every game that I have played with it has done it awfully.

[pliant lintel]

have you tried nioh 2?

[random prism]

No, I have played 3.

[pliant lintel]

ok, i haven'T touched that one yet so i can't say, but i can assum,e they would not have touched their scaling method

[random prism]

If I go to an early area in 3, the enemies are the same as when I first met them.

I go to a higher playthrough if I want more difficulty in that area.

[pliant lintel]

Like, i'll be direct with you on that Chlo, advocating to not have scaling in a live service game liek this is kinda like being offered 50$ now or 10 000$ tomorrow and choosing the 50$

[random prism]

I don't see that comparison as valid at all.

Live service has nothing to do with forms of scaling.

[pliant lintel]

again, we have ONE save, we cannot reexperience previous content, and all the good that will be there will be lost once you outscale it.

[random prism]

In fact, live service means more content is added occasionally, which means there's always a new meaningful endgame.

Making early scaling even less necessary.

[pliant lintel]

fasle, because now you make your game dependant on that frequent content drop to keep your pplayers in game

[random prism]

I mean, that is what live service revolves around.

[pliant lintel]

which means prioritizing release rate over quality, since you have nothing to rely on while develloping

[random prism]

New content.

[random prism]

Not necessarily at all, so long as it still releases at a reasonable rate and is meaningful enough to keep people occupied. Even then, it's quite normal to just take a break and play something else occasionally.

WF functions just fine doing this.

[pliant lintel]

WF works IN SPITE of that

[random prism]

That is entirely subjective.

I do not believe it takes anything away from WF to do it this way.

[pliant lintel]

that model genuinly encourage not putting that much effort into content because it's essentially only gonna be playerd through for a month before players gets bored of it from overplaying

[random prism]

It may, and some fall into that trap, but DE has always been good about not. That just comes down to the quality of the developer.

[low ocean]

Ho, @random prism DS XD

[random prism]

And there are a myriad of other such traps and shortcuts that this or that developer may or may not fall into.

The sign of a good developer is just... not doing that, and continuing to make quality, which DE has.

[low ocean]

Your name makes me nostalgic XD.

[random prism]

Lel.

I am an avid souls gamer yes.

[frail pebble]

Havel ring > Chloranthy ring I'm sorry

[low ocean]

The only game I didn't play was Sekiro XD.

[random prism]

I've always liked maximizing my action economy so that I don't gas out when an enemy does, thus allowing pressure tactics to be much more effective.

[pliant lintel]

i mean you say that chlo, but... Wf current team has essentially left good content jsut rot because it's not worth taking more time on those. if a bug happen in an old gamemode, they'll just look past it since ther eisn't any interest there. again, the contnet looks good, but becomes disposable

[low ocean]

Of course.

[random prism]

That has nothing to do with the scaling of content and just that it was content that was never popular enough.

The fact that some ideas failed has nothing to do with your original point.

And they did not fail because of a lack of scaling.

[frail pebble]

I'm stuck on the final boss of sekiro, only souls game I haven't beaten execpt demon souls, which I do have for my PS3, I just haven't gotten that console out of the cupboard yet.

[random prism]

I've just done the main souls series lol. 1, 2, 3, Elden Ring.

1 was what got me into gaming, even.

[pliant lintel]

so again, i'll go back to my metaphor. rn ou are against scaling, because you want that 50$ now, that ability to maybe someday go back to previous content and feel like you progressed, while you could actually jsut wait a bit, and get that 10 000$, that ability to go back to older content and have some fun, not have to restrict yourself to only the newest content and burn yourself out because it's the only place that feels engaging

[low ocean]

You know, this game reminds me somewhat of DS2, because they've scaled the defenses quite well. It's something I feel FromSoftware will need to improve in their future installments. Regarding the armor-to-defense ratio, DS2 is the best, DS3 the worst. I feel Elden Ring is somewhere in the middle.

[random prism]

And again, I do not see that point at all, and I do not think that comparison is valid.

Scaling of the kind you are suggesting is not some miracle cure for old content being, old, and people getting bored and moving on.

[pliant lintel]

because those content didn'T fail btw, they were lves, they simply stopped being fun because we became too strong, or we overplayed them until we could not stomach it

[random prism]

Eh, right now DR is completely flat, which shafts some weapon types far more than others.

I do hope that gets looked at eventually.

Dual shortblades are awful compared to every other weapon type.

[low ocean]

I agree

[frail pebble]

I feel like the biggest thing that's lacking is scaleable difficulty. If I'm farming a boss, I find it can sometimes be quite hard to farm them, especially if I'm using an unleveled weapon or whatever, but there's times I want to group up with friends and take on a raid boss, and then with the extra healing and aggro pull they can be a quite easy.

[random prism]

The biggest thing that's lacking right now is any actual endgame content cus we're effectively in the early game tutorial section, given that it's a pre-alpha lmao.

People are asking for endlessly repeatable content far too early. Such things will come in time, though that time is far later than now.

[pliant lintel]

chlo, i feel like you are not listening. you talk about people moving on, but it's never something that was said. people leave thsoe content because they outscale it. they can't have good fun in them because they can't feel engaged by it when they 2 tap everything.

and the irony is, with NOT having scaling, you actually get people leaving out of boredom BECAUSE the only content they can play and be engaged with is the latest thing.

[frail pebble]

That doesn't mean that they need to introduce more systems to adjust the dificulty of a boss, but adding very hard raids and some maybe interesting farmable enemies that give useful stuff for when you're vibing would go a long way imo.

[random prism]

You are assuming everyone else's motivation is identical to your own, which is again entirely subjective. If I had content that I was vaguely bored with, it constantly biting my ankles with scaling and forcing me to build competitively would annoy me faster than otherwise, and I'd leave it the first chance I got when I got everything I needed from it.

[frail pebble]

People get bored of PvP games with perfect matchmaking where you play at exactly the right skill level all the time, it's not a matter of outscaling things, people just get bored of things.

[pliant lintel]

you lost the plot a bit there. people are asking to simply have things still be enjoyable LATER, and not have cool content reserved to being memories because the cool boss they loved can't do damage to them

[random prism]

People move on from content with or without scaling, your solution, again, isn't the miracle cure you seem to think it is.

[pliant lintel]

it's about maintainign a diversity of activity so you aren't constantly burning out on every new content

[frail pebble]

And the old content always will see some playtime every now and again when leveling things or just for vibes. There's a lot of content in warframe I've played through for fun, or because I needed an item and I thought it would be fun to use a more level appropriate build.

[random prism]

That's where modes like Cogah come in, such that the entire game doesn't constantly scale to you and deprive you of something early to come back to when trying something new, or just less than the best.

The solution is not to make the entire game snap at your heels at all times.

[frail pebble]

Isn't adding new content more time productive than adding a scaling feature that very few people will use? I mean I agree that new content can often burn you out if you're trying to grind it for the new items and whatever, and that's something that's gotta be scaled.

And personally I like coming back to easier areas where I used to struggle and can just stomp through it, feels very satisfying.

[random prism]

And particular content like bosses can always be used again later in another activity. Hell I think we should eventually have some Cogah-induced horde mode or boss rush, which could solve that.

Such things are usually very repeatable too.

[pliant lintel]

it works in tandem. by having old centent still being enjoyable and engaging, it serves as a padding for develloping new content. it makes it so players can do something else while staying engaged. And that, in return, lets you actually put more care into new content, since not only do you have more time to make it, but it will also be a justifiable thing to help with future content. You stop having to rush releasing the one new gamemode or mission every so often because everything gets overplayed. you get to make stuff to last rather than be effectively be dispopsable once you got everything from it

because, like, what's the point pouring all your talent into new content when you know no one will touch it in 3 months because that's all they could play and are now sick of it

[random prism]

Then there should be scaling content, but that content should not be the entire game. You should not deprive basic areas of their basicness, because it feels bad to not have a place to go back to to chill. Such as, again, leveling new things, trying new things, experimenting, etc. You can have scalable modes, like Cogah, which will probably be expanded in the future, or modes like horde or boss rush, any number of things that can use things from older content without affecting that older content directly.

Constantly scaling the entire game to your level isn't the answer.

[pliant lintel]

Chlo, where tf are you getting that it should be the entire game?

[random prism]

Literally this, it directly suggests everywhere you go will scale to your level.

Which I hate the idea of.

[frail pebble]

The Ubisoft solution

[pliant lintel]

yeah, and i hate the idea of having entire chunks of the game be boring because you can't have fun with them anymore

[random prism]

And I think old content should be left as is so that people can return to an easier area whenever they want. Facets of that content can be reused in other places, modes, or areas such that people who want to experience it but at a higher level can.

[frail pebble]

I just don't think an area of the game is boring just because you've outscaled it. If you want to revist that early game scaling, then just use unleveled stuff.

[random prism]

Right now there isn't even any missable content. There will always be more spider bosses, a higher level nimrod, and even probably higher level organs.

Nothing is threatened by irrelevancy.

[pliant lintel]

Chlo, how many people will actually return to those zones? is it actually something people will actually do in a manner that will jsutify letting old content become boring?

[pliant lintel]

that is you thinking that, and honnestly, if that's the case, it's a terrible future for the game. recycled content over and over rather than jsut having something one and done that can be replayed later

do you hear yourslef!

[random prism]

Yes, and I never said anything about recycling content again and again. Would that also not be precisely what is happening by just scaling that same content higher and higher?

My suggestion would be to reuse parts of it, like unique bosses, in other areas, for people who want to experience it again.

[pliant lintel]

i want one good nimrod, not 5 copy of nimrods, but one is orange

[frail pebble]

But will any of the "content" be boring? If the bosses or enemies are seeable in later level content, like a boss rush or whatever, and the early dungeons getting a "hard mode" like steel path in warframe. Most people will do all the quests that they have in that early level when they're at the level.

[frail pebble]

Ok I don't want to flame, but this is like saying I want my Burger king to offer 1 good burger instead of 5 different burger varients.

[pliant lintel]

that is not what scaling does. it's literally jsut about keeping content relpayable at minimal effort so huge chunks of your game don't becomes dead content with no use

[frail pebble]

Some people have different tastes, and it's not hard to offer different flavours for that taste.

[random prism]

Also, I would. When I test something, or level something new, I don't just throw myself at the hardest content available. I want to be able to relax and eliminate outside variables when I try something new out. This is again you thinking everybody thinks like you.

It's entirely subjective.

[random prism]

And this seems to directly imply you going away from your original statement and saying that you are not suggesting it be everywhere, and would instead be okay with such things being limited to special modes. Which is it?

Because I'm not arguing against making content repeatable in some way, I'm arguing against the idea that such should be done literally everywhere, like me going back to the west coast on a normal map and having enemies kick my shit in cus I'm using unleveled gear despite being very high MR.

And if that isn't your point, then we're not in disagreement.

It should just be implemented in an optional way.

Have Cogah scale the entire game to you, and scale higher the more you kill.

So you can go anywhere and remain challenged.

[pliant lintel]

and this is why you should check Nioh 2 chlo...

[random prism]

Anything that can be experienced in another game can also just be put into words to the same effect.

My last statement remains standing.

[pliant lintel]

Chlo, i'm not saying that because i'm trying to not explain it. i'm saying that because i've started by mentionning the one game that does exacly that, that toggle. that "please return me to the initial clear level" button. This whole time you argued agaisnt scalign and it's benefit, while you could have jsut mentionned that toggle and we would have stopped beefing

[random prism]

I mean, we aren't beefing? I just disagreed with your original statement, because it suggested permanent scaling everywhere, and even made a point to double check whether that was still your point. I myself suggested several times that it should be kept to other activities and not the original content itself.

And either way, I wouldn't call it a beef, discussions like this are good for the game, and this is the place to discuss it.

Hue.

Besides, it gave me something to do between killing Thrice-Bound like 4 times and getting more mcfking Iridis joineries.

Which I am seemingly cursed by.

I apologize if I came off as upset at any point, it has been mentioned that I can be overly blunt. I am both on the spectrum and was in debate club, so that's just how I talk lol.

I was assuming the discussion was at all times civil.

[pliant lintel]

My point is still, technicly, to apply it everywhere. You want that to be the standard way of doing things so you can have a very smooth time. putting it behind a special thing or activity jsut makes it impractical. it's notably where cogah fails rn, because it's the only way to have the whole map be "fun", but it also severely impede you in access and gameplay

I wan that Nioh 2-esque method. once a mission is cleared, you get to replay it at YOUR level, where you get your loot for YOUR level

and then can toggle it off

[random prism]

That could also be done by just improving Cogah. My point is that content should always be available in its original state, no matter your progress.

Even if Cogah doesn't cover that, another such mode or toggle would suffice.

[pliant lintel]

not really no, because then it creates a nightmare for matchmaking, and you jsut end up with unpopulated everything

[random prism]

I think there'll be enough players that this won't become an issue. And if it does, it's just because that content is unpopular for other reasons.

[pliant lintel]

it's waaaay ore complicated than that

[random prism]

If it is interesting enough to hold people, then you'll find matches doing that content with scaling turned on.

If not, then you won't.

And even if not, nothing stops you from doing it solo.

Especially if the point is just enjoying that activity for its content.

[pliant lintel]

i'm not saying the contrary on that

ultimately, we can both agree that player scaling NEEDS to be in the game to ensure quality

aht form it would take is up to the devs to decide

but gosh, not having it would jsut be bad.

[random prism]

Repeatable content can take many forms. Personally, I don't mind old content being old, so long as there is some mode or other that fulfills the role of something that you can repeat while remaining challenged. Scaling older content to player is just one such way, a way that I do not mind at all so long as the content in its original state remains accessible.

[pliant lintel]

that preservation is valid. we only have a single character and can't make a new one without making a whole new account

the nioh 2 method is honnestly where everyone can be happy.

Anyway, player scaling good, now y'all can go back to talking about how seathorn or Sillistavf doesn't drop

[random prism]

Lmao.

My minor obsession as of late is Igne Mora becoming one of my favorite weapons again.

The new horizontal 4-hit combo that basic longblades have combined with its length make it a dead angle paradise.

I'm hitting people slightly behind me to either side, it's great.

[pliant lintel]

wait, it has new animations?

[random prism]

Apparently, I didn't know till I picked it up to relevel it.

[unique ermine]

They drop for me quite easily actually

[random prism]

The old longblade combo with like, the two hits, then the stab into a hit? It's gone.

It's now just a series of evenly paced horizontal sweeps.

[unique ermine]

Gatha though, I understand the struggle now

[random prism]

Slightly diagonal.

And this has been done to all longblades that don't have the cleaver or rapier movesets.

Or Nurash, which is still unique and beautiful.

[pliant lintel]

wait, it didn't have two stab before...

[random prism]

It had one. It had a hit-hit, then an awkward pause, into a stab-hit.

Hit being a swing.

Now it's just an evenly paced hit - hit - hit - hit.

All horizontal.

[pliant lintel]

oh right, it used to have a poke

and a terrible one at that

[random prism]

My main gripe was the awkward pause between the two pairs of strikes.

Made me love the cleaver moveset so much more when the first came out.

Now it's incredibly comfy, especially with Igne Mora's range.

[pliant lintel]

oh, gosh, i was thinking the current longsword one felt weak, but i completly forgot how it was before the animation change

still something i can do in my backyard with my training sword, but... better than before, damn

[random prism]

I like the current one. It's light but still weightier than the old, your arms flow better. And it's a sword, it ain't gonna be that heavy.

And yeah, unfortunately swordplay in games will always, from an IRL standpoint, be ass.

Cus that's just gameplay. It looks more dramatic.

Is also easier to react to when used against you, as good luck doing that if realistic swordplay was used.

[pliant lintel]

well, you can make it more dynamic. i know, because i actually went super 'tism mode and made a more interesting combo a few days ago

[frosty ore]

Here's a fun fact:
||Every Fatalis variant is approaching your exact location. What the hell did you do?!?!||

[gritty gorge]

Hi! New to all of this 🙂

[frosty ore]

newcomer? niiice

https://tenor.com/view/meridia's-beacon-rotating-gif-16888739884483239068

[gritty gorge]

got a code from the new Game Informer issue so I'm gonna try it out

[random prism]

New sacrifices friends is always nice.

[frosty ore]

could always use more bones for sword smithing (Yes vikings would do that. and it actually made them better.)

[gritty gorge]

Just out of curiosity, how much do I need to know about Warframe to understand this one?

[random prism]

Nothing.

It is purposefully different.

[frosty ore]

de hit randomize on the game they wanted to make and now we have soulframe

[random prism]

Also not universally-related at all.

[pliant lintel]

honnestly, the less you know even, the better

[gritty gorge]

Nice! I didn't know if this was a sequel or something much different. So thank you!

[pliant lintel]

especially for playtesting.

[random prism]

Nah, both mechanically and lore-wise, entirely unrelated.

That much is confirmed.

[gritty gorge]

I know pretty much nothing so all brand new 🙂

[frosty ore]

that's the first time i've ever seen someone not say it's a soulslike when they first hear about soulframe

[pliant lintel]

last thing we want is having warframe expectations for SF. game would crash and burn witthing 5 months of release

[frosty ore]

true

[pliant lintel]

the world is healing

[frosty ore]

yep.

[pliant lintel]

that or Viper touched other games before

[frosty ore]

slow progress, but progress nonetheless

[pliant lintel]

it's still wild to me that the gaming zeigeist still doesn't have a clear definition for soulslike as a genre, when it's ridiculously obvious

[random prism]

I mean, I still call it a soulslite, the similarity is what initially pulled me in, but the similarities stop at the very most basic of combat feel. For me, it feels familiar, comfy, somewhat similar, but the theming and game itself is entirely different.

The speed of attacks, spacing, rhythm, simple combos, general man vs mob feel, it all feels similar to me.

[pliant lintel]

an action rpg where the combat is input based and where the player is mechanicly the underdog. simple

[random prism]

But that's the end of it.

Like, the finger feel and rhythm is there, for a jank explanation, lel.

[gritty gorge]

one or two 😉

[pliant lintel]

tho i guess it doesn'T help that the soulslike community spent years denying it's key feature: it's unfair. Like, idk if it's because they really wanted to act like it's not to dunk on people, or because they didn't know the difference between a FAIR fight and an HONNEST fight

[rose mortar]

i think most people just take "unfair" in the context of a video game to mean something different

it's not just soulslikes that pit you against challenges that you have to struggle to overcome, that are unequivocally balanced in favor of the enemy and not yourself

but that doesn't feel unfair because we're given the tools we need to overcome it

[pliant lintel]

soulslite would not be right, because it's far from the key things of soulslike, the player being the underdog. soulframe is jsut an action rpg

[random prism]

Well yeah, but so is Monster Hunter, and the feeling is incomparably different.

It has the same general combat and movement rhythm, at least for me.

But, again, is entirely different in every other way.

[pliant lintel]

thus being an HONNEST fight. rocky vs creed in rocky one was an honnest fight, but not a fair one. it was rookie vs champion.

[rose mortar]

yes, but... the reason people don't call soulslike encounters "unfair" is because "unfair" means something different colloquially, when in the context of a video game

[pliant lintel]

you mean MH as an action rpg or as a soulslike?

[random prism]

The former.

I'm saying that the flavor of action RPG Soulframe is is extremely familiar to me who has played many souls.

The rhythm at which I move my hands and my character moves around feels very similar.

[rose mortar]

you're pointing out semantics but you're really saying the same thing they are when you dig into the actual meanings you're using

[pliant lintel]

that's because action rpg is a very large genre, which include everything from zelda to dragon age to dark souls and so on.

[random prism]

Yeah, which is why I use soulslite. Like, roguelites can feel very different from roguelikes, so I just use the same logic.

The basic movement and combat feel feels similar, but everything else is entirely different.

[pliant lintel]

i see

tho me i would use soulslite to define games that would not be action rpg, but do have that underdog player

[random prism]

I suppose it could be seen from that angle, yeah, I'm just doing the opposite. Describing something that shares basic mechanical feel and nothing else.

[rose mortar]

if soulslikes are a subset of action rpgs though, then how does that work, with soulslite being completely outside the arpg umbrella?

[pliant lintel]

i guess it would be the best descriptive for game like holow knight. not really an RPg but very much souls-edque in essence

[random prism]

Idk, I'm just tryna say that the combat pace and general movement feel feel very similar to souls games, at least to me, while also emphasizing that in every other way it is entirely different.

Moving, swinging, dodging, being hit, it all feels very similar in speed, rhythm, and feedback. The action economy is similar.

[rose mortar]

hmm. i've been playing silksong recently and i'd consider that game a proper soulslike. boss fights are heavily weighted in favor of the boss, the player is the underdog, and it has some rpg elements (gear, some simple stat progression, more akin to a zelda game than a souls game)

progression is zelda-esque but combat is souls-y

[pliant lintel]

fair. i haven't really played them, so i don't know how far the rpg elements go into them

tho, to describe SF, i'd jsut call it a "tsushima-like" 😛

[rose mortar]

i didn't play the original hk but i have got a good few hours in silksong, and while i've heard it's more punishing than its predecessor i don't think it's all that different mechanically. you get different combat abilities, gear items you collect throughout the playthrough, and you can upgrade your health and magic. it's a simpler rpg than, say, elden ring, because you don't have like 12 stats to balance and there's not really a proper leveling system, but it does have gear progression and upgrades

but i think it does fit under the broader rpg umbrella, just maybe not an arpg? i dunno.

[pliant lintel]

feel more like an adventure game then

like ratchet and clank

int erm of progression

[rose mortar]

point being the combat itself is very punishing, input-based, and favors the boss(es) over the player, which is pretty souls-y to me

[pliant lintel]

thus souls lite

[winter steeple]

souls light? yeah, thats what smite does

[rose mortar]

soul smite

[hearty coyote]

hey!

[hushed rampart]

John Erstroot

[frosty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-3742028218164693040

the itten is displeased.

[nova spade]

How do I sell or dismantle weapons I already leveled?

[frosty ore]

talk to the camel

[night girder]

about the scaling stuff, i used to play a gacha game called guardian tales that had the "new content is harder than the old content", at the start it worked perfectly, but the years passed and then for example the minimum power required to join a guild was around 10 million dps, still good maybe, but now i saw a recent post that requires players to have like 500 million to 1 billion and it mindboggles me, like maybe it has no correlation but it reminded me of that

like with that power the early content is pointless, and the end content is too crazy

[frosty ore]

that's what we call a lack of balancing

[night girder]

fr

[pliant lintel]

i mean, i don't know how those numbers mean, but in a way, yeah, it's kinda both powercreep and lack of scaling put together. old content becomes a waste of space if you can't replay it in a satisfying way

[night girder]

if i remember correctly it had these raids where you go with 3 of your teams to fight 4 bosses and deal the most amount of damage in a minute, and guilds ask for a minimum of daily damage, like what i said about 10 million dps

one team does 4 million, the second does 3 million, and the third one does 4 million for example

and that's how you measure your damage and power basically

i played like 2 years before so something may have changed

[pliant lintel]

for a gatcha game tho, content longevity is lowkey a bad thing, since those games are fuelled by the constant push to get more and more new rare things

[torpid void]

does when i master weapon to max level then if i make it again and level then it will give me mastery point for account or not?

or its just one time reward for weapon

[pliant lintel]

one time

[night girder]

yeah, just now i was trying to find a similar post and i found one where they ask for a minimum of 1000 million dps at the end of the raid, like 47 million daily if you have the minimum and attack every single day

it's wild

[torpid void]

thanks, so when i will have them maxed then I can just sell weapons i mastered and go to other?

[pliant lintel]

absolutly, tho be careful some stuff can be hard to reaquire.

[night girder]

but i guess one good thing about ode infamy is that it could possibly fix that issue

[pliant lintel]

yeah, they wanted to do something with infamy. tho idk how they would do it

[neon dock]

hi new player here, how do i use rune while in battle ? ^^;

[pliant lintel]

but yeah, scaling important, lest you become like the sister game, and have essentially 90% of your game that collect dust because players are too strong for it and it'S not fun

[pliant lintel]

soulmode + heavy attack. you need to have charges (which you get from pull smite) and to have the rune equiped

[neon dock]

thank you!

[torpid void]

btw not sure if someone know it but during cougah or how its called like the hard mode enemies drop better items? Like higher chances for weapons fragments or something

[pliant lintel]

nope

[torpid void]

oh... they should do it more rewarding, cause even those amulets are not really good

[pliant lintel]

they have special stuff, but it's thankfully not a better farming method

[pliant lintel]

opposite. if they make it more rewarding then every build jsut becomes about doing cogah and not the rest of the gasme

SP did that to warframe, to a point where non sp farms have started to be completly inadequate in favor of sp

[torpid void]

hmm so maybe they should just add other weapons that are only in cogah

[pliant lintel]

it's more like cogah should be reworked to not be a boring number go up mode before getting anything specific added to it's loot.

[night girder]

nah, then you have players complaining that the better gear is locked behind very very hard content, and you gotta think about drop chances too so you may have angry players with the necesary power but bad luck

the last one is happening with some runes

[torpid void]

its not really that hard, also i just try to find any way to use cogah for future. Like what devs could do to make it worth doing xD

[pliant lintel]

that's the thing, rn it's boring

and it's jsut a somehow worse steel path 2.0

it need to be changed to not jsut be powercreep bait

[night girder]

yeah true, like the only appeal to doing cogah is the runes, you get the runes and then you dont have to do cogah ever again

there's nothing much else about it

[torpid void]

im pretty sure lot of runes that were exlusive in cogah now drop in normal world

[pliant lintel]

Nope

Tho I wish

[young sun]

Avakot grew into a tree

[unkempt bane]

https://youtu.be/aqtsrZsCmj0 Soulframe opera in the far future, thoughts?

[hybrid pasture]

huh, didn't know the entire colour picker have gradients to choose from, thought its just the entire colour

[frosty ore]

Avakot speaks for them trees.

and for some reason they're speaking ode'nese

hence why he needs us

that, and we for some reason pay for his allergy medication (bro has absolutely 0 insurance which now that I think about has a fair about of good benefits)

[hushed rampart]

nooooo avakot got the David the gnome ending!

[rare socket]

nuh dats da Wazzard

[nova spade]

Doing a quest for Orlick and I cant find the 5th memory near the tower

[rare socket]

which quest is it?

[nova spade]

A Bicameral's Biography

[rare socket]

one has u go to Luminns instead of the college, lil confusing for me

[nova spade]

NVM I found it

[hushed rampart]

just got 4 rovgot motes yay

[low geode]

is this a leaked pact

[frosty ore]

if you want leaks just rattle water pipes.

(fr tho dont do that)

[rare socket]

ooo whats this? 👀

[hushed rampart]

idk but when I checked my journal in the ruins I got this and I thought it was funny

2 more motes :O

[hearty pumice]

I don't super know where to put this, but I played for a bit when the game FIRST first launched, and completely spaced that I joined the Discord. Then I remember tonight, go and look, and see this.

Anyway, I picked it back up and am soooo hooked now that they updated it a bunch since launch. So much so that I'm joining the new Discord. Can't wait to lurk for the most part.

[rose mortar]

didn't think i'd see anyone coming from the preludes server after so long, welcome lol

the PRLD server tag exists as a reminder of where we came from....

[hearty pumice]

Oh nice! I'll have to look into getting that tag. I wonder if the reason I make flowers bloom wherever I go is because I'm OG

[rose mortar]

that would probably be because you have the "preludes honor" talisman equipped, it has that as a secondary effect

[hearty pumice]

OOOOOOH, LOL! That's so wild, I have yet to get a better talisman

That's not even true, I got the Tethren Wylde one

Switching now, bye flowers

[rose mortar]

if you haven't played since initial launch then there's quite a lot to catch up on, the game has changed a LOT and systems have been reworked, removed, added, refined, etc.

still a long way to go, of course, and things are still being ripped out and remade quite regularly, but that's the alpha release blessing/curse. i recommend checking wiki.avakot.org if you ever find yourself needing more info on anything that's currently in the game, it's a great resource

[hearty pumice]

Oh for sure. I picked it back up one or two weeks ago when buddies told me I had invite codes to it that I never used. I've been like addiiiiicted to it since

I even threw money at it even though I had it for free because I believe in it so much

[rose mortar]

oh i feel you i still have invites out the wazoo, i've convinced myself that i'm saving them for friends but like..
-# i don't have that many friends

[rare socket]

kind of a spelling thing, but shouldn't Tuvalkane and Kane's names be spelled with an accented e at the end?
Kane's name is pronounced "cahn-eh" not "Cay-n"
idk, do u always accent the e when its pronounced like that at the end?

[hearty pumice]

I gave away the four to some buddies and then when I threw money at the Tethren Wylde pack I added another buddy and my nephew.

[rose mortar]

ehh, not really? in some languages the accents are used to distinguish between sounds but in english it isn't consistent, and especially in olde english it wasn't really a thing i don't think.

[hearty pumice]

I hate to say it but, for me personally, I like it mechanically more than Warframe right now

But I've always been super into the Soulsborne games and especially Elden Ring, so I think that's why

[rose mortar]

i'm with you on that one too. i love warframe but soulframe scratches that fantasy itch and also lets me take my time with things in a way warframe just doesn't. they're both great games in their own right, but i think soulframe will end up being more "my thing" than warframe was, even with my nearly 4,000 hours of playtime lmfao

[hearty pumice]

Yeah and honestly I think DE's style just works better for fantasy

It's so unique

[rare socket]

same, tho i kinda like godfall handles the camera
its more a god of war 2018 game, but i like having the camera off to one shoulder instead of being right on top of the character

[rose mortar]

i'm glad too that warframe has seen such success that they felt confident in starting work on a second game

[hearty pumice]

I changed my FOV to be pretty high

[hearty pumice]

For real

[rose mortar]

you came at the right time for that, up until VERY recently the max fov was 69 ||(nice)||

[hearty pumice]

They've been obsessed with 69 since that lobby incident on Warframe

[rose mortar]

i was there for fortuna 69....

[rare socket]

i was playing another soulslike, Enotria (and italian soulslike) and its kinda hard to see with the player (especially when holding a hammer) right in the middle of the screen TwT

[rose mortar]

that was actually the first major update after i started playing wf, so it holds some nostalgia for me now

[hearty pumice]

I've never heard, that sounds interesting

[rare socket]

i kinda started right before Deadlock protcol

[rare socket]

yeah try it, its cool
especially the music

https://tenor.com/view/enotria-spaventa-legend-gif-5308150194261519411

[hearty pumice]

Iron Pineapple (I think that's his name) plays a bunch of Souls likes, I wonder if he covered this

[rare socket]

yeah
will admit, the gameplay is a lil eh, but the world kinda carries it
italian as heck

even has a chainable sekiro parry

[hearty pumice]

I've made peace with God that I'll never play Sekiro. I've seen gameplay and that's out of my patience threshold

[rare socket]

yeah, its not that hard tho

enotria i mean, compared to sekiro

-# havent played sekiro myself tho TwT

[sick gull]

Sekiro has really good parrying, DE really needs to take notes

[hearty pumice]

I WAS GONNA SAY, not difficult for youmaybe

[sick gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ZuLxzN0w0 the way they do parries is peak for melee combat back and forth

[hushed rampart]

bugh can the rovgot worm stop falling through the floor?

[rare socket]

well, u don't need to devote urself to parrying, theres lots more way to damage n stuff

[hearty pumice]

Oh word? I got the impression it was mostly parry based

[sick gull]

Parrying both is and isnt easy in SF the problem is that even after they "fixed" it its still got issues and jank. But it is better

parrying is like a 3x damage boost

[hearty pumice]

Oh yeah with the ripostes

[rare socket]

unsure if they'll do full soulslike-like combat, but i definetly think combat needs some tweeks.
even duviri combat feels more responsive with its parries TwT

[sick gull]

do 250% damage bonus rune, and the tethren 1 ability going to like 880%+ damage bonus with that 3x

[rare socket]

not really
there are enemy combo that can be parry chainged, but u do get a lot of weapons and spells to use, so u dont need to rely soley on parry.

[sick gull]

ive had damage peak to like 15,000+

but that requires a lot of setup

[lavish finch]

how can i play this now

[rare socket]

soulframe?

u need a access code, they hand em out a lot tho

[lavish finch]

oh i need one imma tiktoker and want to showcase the game

[steady wyvern]

Odiac is so close to 30...then I can finally get rid of it...

[lavish finch]

is the game co op?

[sick gull]

tfw tiktoker is apparently cloud these days 💀

Its co-optional

[rare socket]

theres Envoy Hour on twitch on May 12
if u watch for 30 minutes, u get an invite to play

check the discord events

[frosty ore]

You suddenly find yourself in the last dungeon you were in and are being hunted by **the creature**. How do you escape?

[rose mortar]

i don't know what the creature is, the last dungeon i was in was dermak so...

am i being chased by that one mockery in the corner? i think i'm okay

[sick gull]

theres a creature? I just kill everything

[rose mortar]

if it's an ode though, i dunno, as a musician i feel like i'd be particularly susceptible to spellsong, i might not make it out of there with my mind intact

[rose mortar]

also yes, up to 3 people in a squad

[hearty pumice]

The last dungeon (in Soulframe) I did with some buddies was the Spider one

[rose mortar]

nothing in the game requires co-op, but you can do it

[hearty pumice]

so I guess just do what I did last time, which was kill the spider and spiderlings

[hearty pumice]

With enough Git Gud ™ you can do any boss at any level.

It might suck tremendously, but you can do it

[frosty ore]

Changed my mind everyone's being hunted by it

have fun!

[hushed rampart]

I think my luck ran out because I can't find anymore rovgot motes

I found 6 today in under an hour

[frosty ore]

oof

[rose mortar]

aw heck you just reminded me that i should probably go looking for those at some point...

[hushed rampart]

also is it normal for some mendicant knights with a mace to spawn with their weapon on fire?

[rose mortar]

that's a new one to me tbh

[hushed rampart]

good luck these are rare and I have been running these for a long time

[hearty pumice]

That sounds metal as hell though

[hushed rampart]

I should have recorded it but after killing it I was like "Is that normal!?"

someone else has encountered this too (not my screenshot)

did DE accidently put enemy variety into the game already?

HELL YEAH!

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seal-dance-kad-kadinhou-sfc-gif-27260805

[frigid aspen]

guys Im stuck at Complete Sparrow's Tales
what do I do? please help

[hushed rampart]

I think you need to do a votive at a world tree

[frigid aspen]

oohh

let me try that

[jade wedge]

Gzzz haha

[hearty pumice]

Confirmed, it's the tree bounties

[frosty ore]

happy monday lads
-# oh the misery

[frosty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[rare socket]

whatcha guys think of Trick weapons in Soulframe?

-# i posted this awhile ago, but wanna see if anyone remembers it TwT

[crude flicker]

Joined P13 and I have to say I for one, Absolutely love Soulframe, Maybe even more than Warframe now aha - And two, I think I've done well with my gear and leveling almost every day now. Im quite proud of my progress so far!

[random prism]

Deer of the dirt, what is your wisdom?

[crude flicker]

"Dont let them bury me under here!"

[frosty ore]

"Want some weed bro?" (run far away)

[whole fossil]

bought the oscylda pack earlier. been enjoying the game but its hard to find answers to questions

[crude flicker]

Oh 100% but with SF not holding our hand as much as WF we rely on each other!

[candid pawn]

I counter with deer of the air

[frigid aspen]

@hushed rampart THX I did it

[hushed rampart]

John Erstroot 👍

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-engineer-tf2-thumbs-up-gif-25556531

[lavish finch]

dang i gotta wait till the 12th to get an invite dang

[half isle]

they called it the "Ghost Lamp"

[rare socket]

if u sign up in the website, DE also sends out a weekly batch of codes every wednesday i believe
jsut gotta check ur email if ur lucky

the stream drop is a guaranteed thing tho

[hushed rampart]

ok note to self having max rank of every totem including all three copies is a BAD IDEA

it's posible yes but it's expensive

[glossy pivot]

man i hope there's a hay bail down beneath me....

[lost grove]

If you enter the QTE event with the Vadagar Bear as it decides to despawn, you will be stuck, unable to do anything. You will have to Alt+F4 to restart the game.

[frigid aspen]

can sb tel me the best area to find soulsbanes flower and Gossamer Quartz?

[lost grove]

The best place to find Gossamer Quartz is the Crypt of The Circade.