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That sounds about right
Yeah her shield is a one turn deal
Rengo adds can still crit and remove shield 😂
I can bring other units for what she brings and they do it better
he dropped his ninfol team earlier
Her only draw was unique atk buff
Really what was it
he uses diting, doki, ninfol and kloss iirc
My doki cleanses anyway and my Liliam attack buffs anyway and my vice can heal anyway or my Rin can shield anyway depending on what I'm fucking with at the time
So it's really just the rime and if the rime doesn't exist she doesn't exist
That’s exactly my point heh
Hence “useless shield hoe” 
That’s totally plausible
I am pretty sure she can be used for speedy cleave teams
She's basically Adriana from SW
So in short, you can make ninfo work on rengo if you build her really fast along with your openers and you also need lily and a stacked dps
Yea maybe some t1 cleave stuff but even then.. idk. No t1 and she’s useless
I think she's also going to help my Xiada clear in Doki
Which defeats the purpose of helping new players clear rengo
I’d say doki stuff but doki is down to a science for most id imagine. Rilmo or rev Yeli just deletes the waves
Ah well it isnt the first time devs lied to you 😂
She's probably going to be very annoying on turn 2 teams with the DPS viper or even with the dark moon Borgne
It's just a better solution for people already farming rengo
does ninfo need lattice in that case
she helped me one shot wave 1 doki inferno. 
I refuse to invest Rilmo and didn't get Yeli but yeah
Maybe true if she lives or doesn’t get cut yea I could somethin comin from that
If you can get her to s3 before ads you can get away with 113
I’d yoink my lattice outta her in a heartbeat if we got a reset event
She just needs to be on the bw bb ep Halloween
Cause now I just use Yeli
Lmao

Yeah she's gonna need lettuce on pvp
I’m at least not upset bc I expected them to be full invest before useful or just straight dogshit
No expectations means they can’t hurt me 
I like how XD release units like IKEA furniture without the assembly manual.
You simple figure it out what this unit is good for and what it does, clearly not Rengo unit
It's their job to ragebait the whole community
I mean she's a Rengo unit if you already had the apex units for Rengo that gave him to you on a silver platter
We love a more gooder

I don't think that's really a "Rengo unit"
Of course not 

She might but I haven't been able to test dark moon because I'm now an elite endgame player with no chips
lol no chips
dark moon gives eff acc turn 1
Yeah just roll one each
0 sharon farming
Gold shadow dash natural roll I hate you
Anyone tried or seen a Mia turn 1 strip for pvp?
why does train never allow water units
Viper base speed to slow
what is my rosa even for
Daily reminder that it’s a marathon. NOT A SPRINT
Pretty sure Yeongeo uses it with his rev thing
I think some cc players use it up high to get around Hein bans or even just as a second threat/sustain and cycle helper too but idk
Yeah, was also thinking that too she also reduces cooldown
Holy shit these Ninfo feedback threads are insane
No positive feedback whatsoever 
I think it's their formula
The easy solution is to NURF RENGO’S FUCKING ATTACK STATS
Like I farm him now but I don't like it. Whereas I farm Hoyan and I feel good about that team and what it does to interact with the boss mechanically and what I was able to achieve with it
At least I got off my ass and solved this finally
A whole anime epsiode and a half
Coz I had ssania 
Yeah I've farmed it the least
I'm going to have to forge a Keeneye cdmg because I've never gotten even a 2 liner
You don't need to farm it that much anyways
Just build a 2-3 onslaught and keeneye sets then your done
I'm going to do it for my forge gems because I'm so so behind in it even for a low farm spot
My ons goes pretty deep
Just fuckin keeneye
dot team? nah, we're punching terrormaton to death
I couldn’t beat this until I beat aurora and rengo first
op
I couldn't even get this team to work until I added Mia lmao
Mia, Makoto (no Holden), Fungus, Cachi, Valerian 
Then it’s a good thing I am sprinting
||Straight to uma musume||

I need to reinstall windows so I can play a fucking shooter again
silksong sept 4..
Saw someone claim this is true, gotta see the testing
She definitely boosts damage visibly though so idk
Best thread here imo
curious ab when ppl realize the scaling on batsby…
and really figure out the two units
It’ll be in a couple months
When they can invest in them
Haha jk ppl invested in Nin and surprise she’s doodoo water
that will change
“Lemme just tie her unique atk buff to a dogshit shield” 
Batsby averaging 900% AoE per turn for 2 turns against Reason with 6 debuff stacks at his 5 5 5 seems neat
someone reads
I even use calculator 
Oooh is that a leak I see? BUFFS INCOMING BOYS
i will rope
Random ques and understandable if unanswerable but do you have any CM-related mentorship in-org
these units will have a huge impact on the game both pve and pvp
I was unwise w my investments and spent them on other units I needed to progress in pve so I could improve my acct
Silly me
In 2 months sure
lol
lol
they need cm related therapy services
Drop a dps banner right behind an LD dps banner
Wonder who still has lattice left


Wait did u read my post in the module forge thing earlier?
my boss said I look way too tired and stressed yeaterday
I would have some if I didn't 5 5 5 Liliam, which is maybe dumb as a pass spender since if she gets banned that's 1 month of my lattice income down the drain, but oh well
Did he see the event shop changes? 
been pretty busy gonna focus on other issues first then get to it
not sure if intentional or bug. They could have just wanted to rotate shop options around each time but may have been out of touch
It feels like someone in CN is just addicted to starting fires

Okee dokee
Form my perspective i always hype you up C you are goat and keep doing your best
We love you
People treat a game sometimes too serious
Bahahah jk
Pyromaniac
Wish i could get that hit again
Lots of doomers lately
Alot converted
NGL alot of the top RTA platers are starting to be dooming as well
In the other discord
Some of us needs to white night to preserve balance
the only thing people defend for some reason are the r*sets
Can't wait for next patch where we get 20% good update and 80% an update we didn't even ask for
I want a reset ngl
So I can rebuild my team for pvp
But it depends if we get a mid balance change
I welcome a reset, but don't necessarily need it
Good thing I built standard then converted to CC 
Kinda regretted building fuqiu for pvp tho
Never used her
No lattices tho so ehhh no biggies
I do need to reset my massiah 
Because everyone ban him ?
meta so boring i dont care if im losing anymore, just grab my weekly 2k and dip
But hey your voice matters
Coz I never use him anymore
Paul asked for it
Or paulites, a scholar of paul's type of thought
Well
PAUL WHO?
Rta peeps don't like Paul's comment
It's muscle memory at this point when I read paul
Those cc abusers smh and permaban Liliam ?
Should have invested more wisely 
Paul palpatine
Paulverine
I mean they got me early 1min clears before the inferno nerfs
Just meme’in
I'm a cc player 
i mean cc only have like
4?
Nah bro you meme ain't it
Mio Mia Hein and uh
And liliam is ur nightmare
Not really
She can't be cc
so much unfun core issues with the game rn and I’m working to address this. Never should feel this way
Fkng fortnite being a trailblazer
Making millions with skins and cosmetics
So any guya max investment to test them all out?
i got to diamond 
game needs to be fun and have better gamemmodes
converting my cleave cc into bb tank down
only lose to brusiers cause my fuqiu is unlatticed
Imagine gamers being simple creatures
A better game/company/community deserves you
I think 1 more lattice a week would suffice for me tbh ngl
Buff nahor pls, so I can justify building him 
Idk if you get DM notifs but I sent you one, doesn't need a response, just wanted to give my perspective on smth
Or instead of 15 fragments per week on union shop, make it 25
How about give Ninfo a bit more love and give her same base hp as other hp scaling sustain supports ? Not making her SSR that has less hp than SR

Like at some point Jack gotta look at all this and feel horrible right?
ngl i mean you could always extend more events over what we have
If players ask for apple, give us apple.
like an extra 1 in challenge and event
He's busy being high on patience and resource starvation
Don't fuck my wife and make her pregnant, give birth to a child, name it apple and give it to me
Just give me the apple bro
You forget the keyword; "monitoring"
Opps sorry i was a bit vulgar
Hope i didnt offend anyone

ngl tho
I liked it
Especially youtubers with low subs
even with the plat reward at the end of season isn't enough for people to grind for
them removing the f2p resources kinda bit them in the arse
realm skin that u wont see if u aren't having fun in rta
ngl thats a lot of conditions lol
I think this suck for c because bro need to put in his resume "Experience - Etheria Restart (June 2025 - Dec 2025 )
I have a weird perspective as a low spender but I don't care if a game is infinitely p2w as long as or especially if it results in me spending 20 a month or whatever feels pretty good and I can have fun in my lane, whether I hit Mythic or the equivalent or never do
"Hey can you explain to me what you do as a staff in Ethetia"
"Monitoring"
PEAK
isnt hein + dinah 6?
isnt hein 2?
I'm not here to compete with people who spend 4-5-6 figs cause I don't want to do that, I just want to optimize and do the best with what I do have and feel good doing it
Like it not even bro fault, the head dude just hate his players
Man was fighting demons
Dining with paul
And sipping on a drink as the crazies went off
crit buff+ antibuff+ antiheal
And how has that been going?
then probably
hein + kloss/dinah
Well this game decided that an even playing field means feeling like shit on every level
"Waiting for my head dev's decision to cause turmoil and try to fight fire from the community"
And made it impossible for people to spend crazy money
you know what
maybe the person who worked on infinity nikke
Even i AM tired with all the people and chats today here with all the channels
got fired after they killed that game
and got hired by XD
to work on ER
it MUST be
But what about the promise-land?
not possible
that person got promoted in infinity nikke 

No game hates their playerbase more than Etheria Restart
P2w players cannot fully p2w because the packs are silly and game mechanics are beyond just money
F2p players cannot test anything because resource are as scarce as a youtuber with 398 subs
Players who spent in the middle, well idk, rest in peace comrades
I top up for liliam before the buff
Then i realise, oh these dev don't test shit ayy
Like in most game hp destruction are limited to like 70% of max or smth and usually not in one single move
But we moved on from that issue very quickly because "Look help is here!"
will lock this thread for now until people do a little more research and stabilize
sorry to the legendary thread
I don’t want another liliam situation
yall gotta realize how good these units r
xd
will take time as always
unlocking this but if there is toxicity will be more strict ab muting and banning
yall need to be patient and work together not fight eachother
FREEEDOM
who fought in here though
Dont know. I pulled her but dont have the lattice and exp to test her so she is on the bench
Y'all better behave
I'm not farming rengo yet so I'm not rushing
on paper seems good but a good LH will just
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We're so back
pve wise batsy is good i think at 1/5/5
I'm a smug doge guy now, this guy is crazy everywhere, new emote meta 

Serra left

just remember
im just trying to get people to test and do research before hate spamming and fighting eachother
Should let him rest
i dont want wars
no one fighting in this thread chris
bc i gotta deal w it evrry time
I'll educate them 
Chris this is holy grail of threads though
they were going to
its why i locked it
temporarily
it was all gonna pivot to here
and this thread too legendary to get stained
This thread contains our dead soldiers
Every guy voices their opinion here once
After entering server
I'm just waiting for the comps that don't also use 3 of the 4 best units in the game 
Maybe you can use diting, but you might need yeli though
I am waiting for graven to design a new ui for etheria using gpt 5
Diting would do fine but Lily is a problem
I'm so sorry for chris getting all the shit he don't deserve, I blame the game
True
don't know if dinah can replace kloss
I'm no gfx artist I come from the writing side sadly 
It's not the person but the game is culprit
I could try if I get to build my nin
It ain't that hard
It's complex but
If u get hang of it
Pretty fun
the best part about kloss is the speed down, other than the unique debuff
I'm a gfx artist, I design book covers tho 
i really dont want to lattice her tho
I'll try to come up with a less meta team if I build my nin
I think Serra left coz this thread got closed
But for sure need to put 2 lattice on s3
honestly coz ppl here are prob the most sound ones 
Yeah I will invite him tomorrow
Again
I was surprised when this thread was locked
her*
All andies

5x in union boss feels so premium
I mean i only buy lattice packs for now
everything not really but damn is the skill up box and exp book tempting for me to whale on

You can think of it as saving stab for more mod farming on 2x 🙃
yeah
i can afford some loss
but not that much of a loss
game can take from me 500$ monthly ill give it that

I just buy the battlepass and daily gems
if the game was good
i would have max out everything in the shop
its just maintainece now anyway
also fking unforgiving for testing 
damn what'd I miss in here
These words 
32 wasted Gold Lettuce
no war guys
yeah and didn't see anything worth locking it over above. 😂 was stuff deleted?
no wars, no rumours and no rengo
welcome back
you are 18 hours too early my guy
union changes were too good.
Chris be like let me play my trump card
and this thread being back brought me back

wht were the union changes?
And I can see them nuking the Nin Threads is just gonna create more nin threads



well it was only unlocked when everyone moved to rengo thread and called them out for locking this one 
Yeah

Nvm it was resets for weak
Thread
Serra thread already got nuked
Chris had trauma from that
Shhh careful he's watching
He will lock this thread again
There was fighting in here?
I thought it was collaborative sarcasm
theyre all getting locked anw, last bastion of hope for game to get better is dying 
prob getting alot of fixes during globl release

then again every week
and i mean every
we get drama and feedback war
drops an annoucment
everyone hype or dooming
patch day
Is there a catch with using codex on every team member?
Like with law of silence?
feedbackwar
nope
not really
ive seen alot of whiteknights turned doomer
then leaving then new whiteknights
cycle continues
I AM unironically doomer turn whiteknight
now your a rare pokemon
U were always white knight
Yeah he doesn't want her getting buffed which is hella valid.
yes

nerf rengo
give me a break on these units and work together as a community to figure out the tools available
bc fhere’s so many good tools available now
@loud locust dont let her get buffed or we might get rev situation again
esp for rengo
Nerf chris toaster cause he doesn't need one now
so far i see she allows cleaver to cleave if she goes through
The thread was doing that, with some bitterness sprinkled over it
not sure if this is the thread to voice my opinion without getting nuked, but i unironically think this game needs powercreep to survive since every banner is a feelsbad
- saying that as someone who pulled every new char
There are good tools doesn't change the fact he needs a 10-40% nerf to be in a "healthy" spot.
exactly the kneejerk reactions and listening to community too much have gotten us here unfortunately, sometimes gotta stand ground in certain areas
Seriously you are so tiring today with all the spamming and Doom posting, this is casual mobile game
Chill things are definetly moving behind the scenes, we are slowly but steasily going forward and the game will also get better with China release

Union Front Changes were so good.

gotta listen to the community carefully rather than just what is loudest
Tf happened here
i was almost fooled
I got brainwashed
he’s tired of seeing a lot of predictable messages
Did i miss a character arc?
😭
Tbf Lilliam situation was many fold. She was buns in pve and perfect -ish in PvP
So now he's a predictable white knight?
C if u can't handle this u will have more worse time with cn jp korea people
Had they not fumbled that so hard she would’ve been fine

Devs just have no idea what they’re doing
but....I live for China and doomposting 
Come on man, you wanna be unpredictable, glaze chaku skins or smthng
They are 10 times more than what u seeing now
So they turned the knob to 100 instead of making the appropriate changes
oh I know
good thing I dont speak or read it
Fun with Klorus in Aurora. Still building doki team
Will there be another cm for them
Still waiting for my dm conversation I was promised 
they will learn english so you can
genuinely made my shitty ass morning
With flame effects
Fck yeah
So if we decrease animus size to chaku size it will be easier to design skins right
farming stages in summoners war drops mats for skins

Animus shells when
Animus shells containing animus passives would go hard imagine tiamat with holden passive of s1

The broader global community has given the middle finger to this game and its practices, the revenue proves this—why say things like this? Unless you have access to data suggesting there’s been a massive player turn-around, then all the criticisms the doomers have levelled at this game are objectively true.
The devs are to blame for advertising this so the casuals and those who cant clear rengoku will think these two units will solve problem when in reality it either makes it more consistent for someone clearing rengoku already
The backlash will be way less if they didnt advertise them this way

Devs should have made the text more little they forgot that part
I’m watching CW’s video and he’s not impressed, and he still supports this game
Lattice hungry, apparently
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This guy
He still does regular Etheria content
Damn that's very rare
it's an established fact these are not new player or struggling player solution to consistently clear rengo, their kit needs to be adjusted or tailored towards rengo if that's the real dev intention
Nah, he’s going team doomer. “This character is garbage, you should not pull for her”—direct quote lol
every new rgb is so much weaker than ld despite needing the same amount of resources is why this is happening
Yes which is why the community is not pleased with these two units, the veterans and those who can clear rengoku can test them and get good results cause the other dps like liliam and yeli are max latticed but same cant be said for people struggling
Oopsies

Maxed her s3 already
Because they’ve learned nothing.
what if the plan was to release rgb -> new players pull rgb -> still cant clear rengo -> quit -> global rengo wr goes up (?)
Ninfo should just one shot rengo smh
His main criticism is she needs that maxxed since the buffs are dependent on her shield, so you should be okay
tbh whoever say they are solutions to rengo is just raitbaiting and lot of ppl taking that ragebait like champs, are they usable for rengo ? sure, but not a solution
exactly this and devs havent nerfed rengoku and refuse to nerf them which is causing players to be unhappy
It's ur usual developers capatilizing on a problem in the game
I've seen it dozens of times
and it works everytime
wasnt c implying they were not false advertising 💀
but not as blatant at this one
create problem sell solution its not new in gacha game
Create the problem > sell the solution
Yes. He said they were a fact
Oldest grift in the world
I have to disgree with chris, it is false advertising to the deepest core, it's like saying this is a cure for diabetes and all it gave u is couple of insulin shots to cope with it
Devs have nerfed niconana inferno and hoyan inferno but they refuse to do so for rengoku why is that?
yall gotta chill c is gonna crash out and ban us all lolol
Instead sell units and say help is on the way
the devs mess up so much that c can't handle all the feedback lol
They were clearly implying these units would effectively help/ really help with Rengo clears, when in reality with the amount of investment into them needed for them to properly perform, lots of pre-existing units could accomplish the same. They need to stop testing stuff at 5/5/5.
bro did u miss the mass deleting and locking its already happening u cant stop it
careful now iirc it was chris that wrote the patch thingy
What really? lol We’re in the see no evil phase of denial

He wrote the try with Lilian I thought
I don't envy Chris, but we can't cater to the game coz Chris is being nice to us, us not crashing out is what we can do for his sake
i mean the game needs to give the players a bone with how its been turning out but i dont really see it tbh
event yeah some are better but thats after alot of raging etc
idk why c is defending devs so hard tho cos its the devs fault why everyone hates themselves playing this game rn
nothing like here 10 pulls thanks for putting up with us
Then we all should rise and let our voices be heard so that they cant oppress us. Where is our freedom of speech? 🦅 🇺🇸
niconana nerfs WERE a solution to break the hard entry barrier for ppl, these 2 new slops ? no
You are the wisest Man on this server
did you remember where was it posted that XD is no longer sponsoring the weekly pvp torney for etheria
the timaeuss cup or something

I don't recall tbh
ah not this discord then
but i do know they aren sposoring the weekly cup or its just rumors
we will know in 8 days
It was mentioned in the general thread today? I think c or someone official confirmed it, but I’m not 100%
Or maybe it was in this thread, way, way up, around 6 am
this is what i mean
Pretty sure since they said that to cc
To keep their own money
For weekly tournament
Free charity
just dont want this to continue
that’s all
it’s a lot of our fault
so im not gaslighting playerbase
but we have a very confused and chaotic community because of many kneejerk reactions
I read here that it’s our fault
and poor communication

from beginning
two things can be true at once
as I said before, and I'll say again, Iampaul is a rare SSR+ spawn that happens to be in ur game, this dude existence is a blessing to the devs, listen to him, wise or not wise I'm being told, but I don't hold a candle to him, he is a gacha pvp game surgeons that understand the game better than devs, listen him and him alone
knew him for 12 years
it’s not so black and white and that statement doesnt mean a ton of our other issues didnt lie in communication
I called him for 5 hours yesterday
Chaos and confution are there bc of yours ads...
i know
You can't blame the customers for how we react or feel about the content lolol. It's not our fault, we aren't ruining the game. danggggggggg calm down its good
dude is a wizard
The revelation nerf has only led to BB dominance. You guys should almost never nerf something unless it’s ultra, mega broken. Always better to give players more tools and options to deal with a problem, from skills to gear sets.
aint no need to trip homies
agreed
Now you’re probably going to nerf BB, and that brings us back to another doom spiral
nah dw im being extra careful now about this
cooking with community and rta top 500 was risking a lot of spirals
got humbled and realized
a lot of us are not seeing big picture
so cab ur very correct usually we disagree on things but
BB is a seriously difficult subject, nerfing something that ppl throw their soul to get more of is a risky and bad move, if ppl didn't farm it, I'll fakin remove it from the game, that thing is just BAD to exist even
I don't think the identity crisis thing holds water in terms of who it was marketed to
Healthy disagreement is good 🙂 Breeds strong ideas and debate! Also: are XD testing these heroes at 5/5/5? That’s probably a big problem with hero releases and expectations.
He died?
Or did you die?
Because when it comes to gacha I exclusively play hard-grind turn-based PvP, more or less, and I still found/find this game to be absurd
They should be testing them at 0 lattice with only basic stats increased to the first lattice increment
though he is x5 more of a whale than me
yeah it’s just in another league xd
how is this not considered gaslighting when there are glaring issues that players are personally experiencing. its not like everyone is just hearing doomposts and echoing them
the communication and marketing are a combo issue
i think it's a more fundamental issue than that though in terms of functionally having nobody to appeal to with the way it was released
The majority of my union came from sw or e7, they all left now
The fact its bb not being the Main issue, its they fact that u can stack so many dmg reddu all together on pvp that its almost imposible with bb on the ecuation.
it’s not gaslighting to say that many of us are short sighted and fueling improper suggestions that will continue to cause more issues rather than focus on the core
including myself
It was just the +1 that make us SEE the problem
im at fault for so much as well
when are u getting the rengo nerf or should we just shut it and wait for the cn release?
i dunno if you read my dm earlier but this kind of thing only adds fuel to the fire i described
it's gotta be relative silence or full disclosure at this point on that issue
That's why it shouldn't exist, it's bad for the game business, how the devs gonna release bruisers at this rate?
actually... it is. lol
I agreed with CAB for a reason
if people are told that they need to get good and figure it out cos theyre dumb and its not the games fault then what are they supposed to think. that theyre just too stupid?
Not saying u are, but not being directed to only one subject does not excuses to be a gasligth 👀
It seems so
im saying this as someone whos cleared everything btw.
ive outwardly criticized the difficulty many times
Liliam was a Mistake, Reset was not. Shadow Nerfing Was a Mistake.
I work with an advertising company for over 5yrs and we know many of here have similar experiences... We always use those same tricks 👀
Asking in a neutral way: Aren't you the CM? Why are you putting your finger on the scale?
shadownerfing Tiamat made few top players I know quit
the amber interaction?
yea
I just got an orange speed will grindstone in lab everybody
yeah i was gonna go for more prowess on her after holden but idk anymore
yeah I’m taking a step back soon
I would Say Community Feedback is batting around .600 Dev Decisions are batting around .100

Community doesnt need me anymore
o7
Chris talking here increased the rat population in this thread 
Imma rat now? :C
we all are
my intentions and efforts just dont work well with this environment

tbf u said massive announcement on a dry spell of this game where players were hoping for anything and u hyped them up only to have them feel dissapointed
🧀

I think they're still a net positive
The Announcement Sans Rengo Response was very Good.
if rengo was nerfed it would have been greatly received by community
I think they'd be an unambiguous positive if the company didn't seem determined to destroy its product
You still the best CM I had in any gacha game I played <3, honest to god truth, no glazing
global launch event will be really good too from everything I know
If Rengo Was Nerfed I would be shilling
Hard
yeah sorry
Well rats are liky related to un-healthy spheres 👀
for your own safety
u don't get it, disease x disease = cure
if they flop the cn launch it's actually over
rats are the cure
i alr hyped it in the announcement tho

in this diseased community and game
bc ik some rewards
So why wasn’t it?
But Rengo/Inferno are like a Massive 30LB Tumor on this game.
is there a date for the global launch

yes a lot of players hoped for rengoku nerf when u said massive announcement. Even a lot of utubers were saying rengoku was bs.
bro stop.. we don't need to know. No need to hype us up
you got people searching, screenshotting, and compiling your messages in weird aggro ways though, more fuel is more fuel
the developer intention of offering more solutions and tools via units IS the right answer no matter what people think, but it should have been there from the beginning
the timing was the issue
You mean asia servers 👀 BC global it's been up from 3 months, unless we are not being told something
"universal" probably better than "global" for a lot of reasons
Those Solutions Require Lattice...

yeah that one im okay on
:p
Exactly what i mean, communications
The solution is to buy more lettuce
lol yea
why i said timing is the issue.
most who quitted didn't do so coz of rengo, it was the real inferno in this game, which is the time it takes
this
time and fun
are the two worst things ab the game
I disagree but I think farming stages should be easy and clearable with any on Element SSR Standard built team.
fun will come along, but time wasted is time wasted, I couldn't handle 7hrs a day
from ur perspective looking at the devs announcement it was massive as it had 7 points the devs wanted to focus on but a lot of those points amounted to nothing just yapping from devs
Which upset the players
Im just going by the Hyperlink Charter aka the tutorial to gage my Expectation
Honestly, you are also quite unprofessional in handling this issue.
Silencing an angry and disappointed mob are never okay. It's a huge slap in the face especially when you said you wanted our feedback and then you proceeded to silence us because we have different opinions than you.
You're also handling it wrong about the missing pulls from the event shop, instead of saying, "Oh, I honestly don't know. I'll look into it. In the meantime, try sending a ticket."
You threw your hands and said, "idk don't ask me, ask customer service. It's a bug."
And even till now, we still don't have an answer or announcement (about the shadow missing pulls) or even an apology about how badly you treated the players.
This isn't a communication issue. It's a mismanagement and attitude problem. I hope you learn from this and I do hope the game finally will take a better direction.
yep
def an attitude issue
oh man
lets do more discord abuses to fix it lol

🤓
I already have so much on my plate and I’m just one person. People are aware im working on so many other things so I stated yes idk whats going on with this it might be a bug please report it to customer service and ill figure it out later based on how they respond
Chris is Very Professional and is doing his best. Don't need to attack him like that
You can't expect lot of changes if the devs want their game to be both competitive in PvP and PvE.
best solution is PvE as easy as other similar games like SW and E7 and focus more on PvP since it's a mainly PvP game.
When you love your 1st game you want it to have everything which is wrong, devs need to specialize on something, they tried to do everything at once and look at the state of the game, problems in both PvP and PvE
this is not really an attack tho
im not professional
criticism isn't an attack

i don't think he's attacking him personally tho
critisisititism 
bro sent a legit text with honestly pretty valid criticism
you are the scapegoat for player frustrations for this game as we all cant talk with the devs directly

Shouldn't never be just one person tho.
this person is extremely aggressive towards me though in general
My dad used to call my beatings "criticism". 😨
Jesus
Hey fam, just gotta say. It must be difficult to be stuck between angry players and a boss that don't listen. I hope you keep your head high, really appreciate all the firefighting you are doing G.
he's just projecting his pve anger onto you since u are easy target

ah i didn't know about that, just thought it wasn't worded as such
it's very rare to see a professional CM would put his heart and soul into a community and game, this is why Chris will be the best CM you can have, professional or not
shocking never heard ab people doing this before
ive contributed to a lot of good, but also a lot of bad here
a lot of people dont even recognize properly where the good and bad are
Rengo nerf enjoyers putting their frusteration on Chris, and Chris puts his frusteration on us rats and almost bombed our only house in this community 
So the lack of lettuce is gonna persist forever, isn't it?
nah i only locked threads bc i dont want liliam situation again
it was temporary
ppl need to research units first before hate threads
thats all
so we dont repeat same mistakes
its ok man, we all make mistakes.
Dont hate the player hate the game is what most dont understand hence why u have people attacking
nerf rengo is separate from “these units are trash and dont help with rengo”
yep, don't hate the player
Max invest and figure it out later
thats fr kenny
honestly, mods are extremely lenient in this community, which is odd, some ppl are fucked up parrots that needs to be silenced in a dark room 24/7 aka timeout
the new units def help with clears
its because i get personally harrassed if i silence people
block and ban
ive had people make 20 alts, harrass my personal life and friends, etc
but again, doesn't address the real issue of rengo being giga overtuned
yeah it was a timing thing as i mentioned
honestly I've been a community owner for years, I get hated on stuff alot, just fuck em, you know u are right
That’s wild
I can smell the unemployment from here
yeah people online are ruthless since everyone is anonymous most times there is no consequences which is true
if released with a greater pool of units we would have been fine with rengo
tbh
now there’snjust way more tools
Come on man, i wqnted to shower, but the hot water didn't work
the timing was bad
solution was good timing bad
and invalidates solution for less progressed players for 2 weeks until they can lattice and adust team
just shouldn't have sold it as a rengo unit specifically let ppl figure it out that it was for rengo imho
the massive announcement on ur part was a mistake
Many people screenshotted u saying that and passed it around this discord which caused a wildfire
the units in a vacuum sound fun to play around with, there was no need to mention rengo let alone liliam for them
if people still cant figure out the unit is for rengo after being explicitly told imagine if we didnt
Idk boss, people are pretty vicious in person too
we never know if the description matches how the unit should actually work it's the same issue with dinah she work's in gaame backwards on her s3 to her description , so how would ppl know which one is right and which one is wrong without trying , and to try they have to invest, also it shouldn't be players who test this but devs and it seems that devs doesn't really test anything
These units are Great and Don't help with Rengo vs current options we already had* Trust me I was fighting abck against people saying they were trash
again most of the announcement was net positive but because we released units to help with rengo over nerfing rengo it made nobody trust everything else
yes
yes but they are more vicious online cause of anonymity
I get your point, but my point is more that right now there was a promise that these units would be great for Rengo, ppl tested them without 2 mins of testing and playing around and startted complaiing immediately, hell even CC's went on the bandwagon of hating on Ninfoniel just cuz it was supposed to be the Rengo fix 
eventually ppl would've told others that they would be good for Rengo
tbh the trust was lost since dreamscape incident, it'll take a lot of effort to earn that trust again
Agree to disagree
yeah people wanted nerfs instead of more units with more lattice to invest
btw @loud locust is there any plans for character stories and stuff, cuz i feel like with all these new character releases i don't really feel anything towards the characters apart from their designs
and more teams would popup by the natural course of the game
I kinda join this two issues together because I feel like if rengo was nerfed people would not be complaining about the new units
oh for sure if this game releases on china in this state then the irl people gonna raid XD office
the amout of ppl tagging chris, I feel bad doing it aswell
She Preforms a Similair Role to Viper/Valerian. If you can clear fast she is helpful if you can't clear honestly Viper Sania is safer.
another huge issue is character attachment and identity. discussed with paul yday for hours

We still in beta
good that it's been noticed already, thanks
i find that to be a big hidden problem that i don't see as much in other games that develop their characters
basically my upcoming call and direction for jack and devs is to entirely flip the game upside down from what we’ve been doing and focus on making the game fun and giving players reasons to enjoy it
And Batsby is bussin bussin but he is a Blue DPS and is fighting with Liliam/Diting/Massiah/Rosa for DPS Slot.
batsby is broken op
especially since this game releases characters every few weeks
I agree
attachment comes from the character being
1st: actually strong unit 1st and foremost
2nd: design, design needs to be unique and good, almost all females faces look the same
u are very smart for recognizing it
Reason: Duplicated text
i seriously hope devs are actually listening to u lol
I'm not attacking him. It is not a personal insult targetting him or his wellbeing. I'm simply putting his action and what he did with my standard work ethic.
If you think that it's acceptable to do things like that in a workplace setting, that is completely your opinion and we can agree to disagree. But I certainly do not think it's professional at all, especially when you are handling customers, not to mention, angry ones.
Christ on a unicycle
Whatdidido
As it's any off the dps with 5/5/5 lattuces 👀
Time to Make a New Suggestion

Pulling a unit of a Dedicated Banner for the first time gives 4 Lattice
read the chat before sending paragraphs every time man
they get it

you want easy player attachment to character, huge booba, it worked in E7, worst and most basic personality character won the best popularity
Make it worth going to 80 Pity
Where m I gonna find 12 lattice 
Goodluck with that
Exactly...
Probably
Read what chat though? I'm not even replying to you.
Gamers are basic
I am basic
The only way the people are gonna be happy with new units are if they are useable without lattice.
this was such an unnecessary reply lmfao and then you're surprised ppl get mad and angry on you ;-;
Hope they have improving the Game over that... Bc it doesnt seems so.
Holy grail of game science right there
if they arent usable at 1/1/1 like freya and fuqui then u get hoards of complain like this
I'd never keep up with chat specially the amount of tags he gets. I'd give him a break
If you have ever played a Card game before. Putting in cards into a Deck(Pulling a unit that is supposed to counter said fight) that hose 1 fight are worth using. These units were not the silverbullets players expected.
it cost him literally 0 effort to just ignore and continue living life
They should just not said anything and the units would have been VERY Well received.
yupyup
yea i think so too, definitely shouldn't have tried to market it as a rengo solution
right below their comment people criticized them including me and they agreed and understood
get walked over too easily especially with angry ragebaiters
the units themselves are actually good
did not need to lay down 2 paragraphs on them after they already realized the flaw in what they said
people can figure out what they are good for on their own
just let the players experiment on their own
the problem with marketing them as rengoku solution and them not working at 1/1/1 is what most people are angry at. Many dont have lattice after using it on liliam and other units
isn't that part of the fun
im standing up for a member of the community
that way of interacting becomes a toxic pattern
no need to market any characters as a solution to X content
it just builds expectations that in most cases won't be met
yeah the units are not bad but people have expectations for them to be usuable at 1/1/1 which is not the case
the reply itself not as much but the general pattern of not reading through context then sending 5 paragraphs does become toxic
IKEA units without the assembly manual
Freya at 1/1/1 and fuqui at same can be used in all contents
Toxic = saying what they did wrong, thats a company politic.
Not bad*
I do Prefer Nin over Fuqui
yeah thats what i wanted to type lol
but thats because Fuqui is same element as Kloss.
Ninf as 1/1/1 open a sub 1min10 farm in rengo btw 70%/80% win rate
no one needs to be criticized in paragraphs after already being told it multiple times and saying they understood that’s all
I'll make it less toxic, by turning it to copy pasta, @viral dune sry but everything more than 5 lines is a potential copy pasta

img
dammit

copy pasta time

u ruined a perfectly nice copy pasta thx chris
honestly where are my tank dudes that give lots of shield in ER >: (
has to have a moustache
Ppl have the right to write as many lines as they want. If they are not atacking You as a person but adressing company flaws, it's nothing wrong with it, no matter if u like to SEE it of not.
I have to say etheria discord drama is becoming more fun than etheria restart 
also we have the right to make anything more than 5 lines a copy pasta
new here I guess 

this isnt ab them addressing company flaws
Close, mine was just 4
Has been for awhile.
it was about sending a huge message criticizing serra when they were already scrutinized and realized the statement was wrong. All kraugia gotta do is read a few messages below and realize serra admitted the statement was wrong
I
I have spent more time reading chat than playing the game wtf
the 4th PvP mode is the most fun one

why poke him...
guys don't you have a United Front to fight in >: (
Exactly which part of it is considered criticizing? Even the one whom I replied to say it's not toxic.
This is the most important united front, inferno difficulty megathread fight of existence
who vs who tho
I usually switch sides when I'm in a ragebait mood
Nah, I deleted it because something more interesting happened.
it’s not that big of a deal and I guess bori is right you have the free will to send as many paragraphs as you want
actually sounds more like WvW in Guild Wars2
Rats will win
so I apologize
Yet You muted multiple threads that were doing so... 👀
came here for the drama stay for the copium
But then you still called me toxic though when I didn't say anything insulting at all.
C Can I get 4 Lattice Please
I
Will
Send
1
Word
Per
Paragraph
And
@loud locust
Said
It
Is
Allowed
So
He
He

I called the general pattern of monster paragraphs towards people can become toxic and feel overwhelming for people
this shit allowed and not copy pasta smh
I need a shower after that dirty move
i admitted earlier ur message itself wasnt too bad there but
Please
Next
Time
Make
It
Way
Longer
Than
You
Did
Right
Now
Thank
You
Very
Much


Nah I am holding out its best to let them attack to get an idea of their Speed an unit Strenght
thank you
Tbh They would just said "im not being paid to read all that" and call it the day
now I think about it, 1 word per line is a nice filter for type war
itms because im evil
When we getting Champions Call for Discord PvP? 
easier for the eyes







