inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[warped kestrel]

I'm at a point in the game where refreshing won't advance my account as meaningfully as getting certain characters (Lily and Kloss)

So I'll prioritize getting those above all

[ruby canyon]

this is true

for me ssania, mia or khloros would help a lot

[arctic plover]

most people are at the point in the game where refreshing won't advance your account as meaningfully as complaining on discord so they nerf stages /j

[warped kestrel]

Unironically true, I dunno why you're /j'ing it

And this has been true since the moment we started complaining

[ruby canyon]

it is crazy that i've cleared all challenge modes but not terror inferno due to lacking certain units

feels so out of whack

[scarlet quartz]

just one more week of monitoring

trust

[warped kestrel]

I'd even dare say that the most efficient use of my time at the moment in terms of account progression is:

1. Complaining on Discord for more Inferno nerfs
2. Lily and Kloss
3. Refreshing

[ruby canyon]

you could play p5x maybe that'll help with progression

[arctic plover]

whale on e7 to have it overearn etheria to increase the chance of the game getting changes

[outer falcon]

What's up gang, how do the changes feel

[young zealot]

I personally tried terrormaton about 5/6 times, still couldn’t clear it. Idk about the others

[undone vortex]

the greatest they can do is replace the Ethernet rally team so they don't cook fights like Tiamat, green/light kururu + Sharon, and nico

[ruby canyon]

I don't think i'm anywhere near close either

what do you need holden on for terror, 1/1/3 + codex?

[ruby canyon]

ngl I really like the kururu and nico fights, others are rng trash yea

[undone vortex]

red kururu is fine, green kururu tho

[graceful juniper]

kururu minion are too tanky

[ruby canyon]

try vice to taunt lock boss?

[young zealot]

I dont even know honestly. I use him but 1/1/1. I don’t even want to try investing in a char to take a shot at clearing, I’ll just wait for some cheese comps

[graceful juniper]

boss immune to taunt as long as the minion exist,correct me if im wrong

[undone vortex]

u just need a kill 2 at least

[ruby canyon]

true but you just need to live 1 time and taunt lock him and prevent further add spawns right

[undone vortex]

u either have a juiced rilmocha or messiah

or u spending weeks with vice

[graceful juniper]

i guess i have neither

[undone vortex]

slowly chipping the mofo

[outer falcon]

Yep

[ruby canyon]

how would vice be slower than any other sustain like sr sania?

[graceful juniper]

lvl 45 rilmocha is not enough

[warped stump]

yea 1/1/3 + codex is best in slot

[ornate moth]

Are the changes live or not til tomorrow?

[warped stump]

i've heard the speed to beat for him is 264 as well, i think this is so that he can loop back into an s2 before the boss moves the 2nd time and prevent the boss from killing you

they're live now

[ornate moth]

anyone tested things yet?

[true trench]

first tester i saw said its not enough and uninstalled

[carmine palm]

my rosa team 3*'d niconana so I assume it's live

[ornate moth]

😭

[warped stump]

its possible to clear terror with diting now and its relatively consistent but still takes high quality modules

[ruby canyon]

oh yeah I've noticed nico runs are a lot faster

[warped stump]

probably going to have to do dokidoki first before you do terror inferno

[ornate moth]

kloss, lily, val, diting, freya or something?

[warped stump]

valerian over freya from my exp

i am not sure if you can sub out lily for a khloros but i'd imagine you can; the boss has roughly 640k and khloros can easily do 300-400 if you have a strong set

[ruby canyon]

idk if doki set really works on diting this looks worse than my fury keeneye set, still need furyedge for diting right?

[warped stump]

yea i mean moreso for the supports

[ruby canyon]

ah fair enough

[warped stump]

as the supports need a good amount of speed

[mighty cave]

264 if i remember correct

[warped stump]

yea

[mighty cave]

Boss is 263

[warped stump]

264 minimum, then you also need to make sure that if you're running lily that her s2 doesnt force diting ahead of them which causes even more headache lmao

[ruby canyon]

ok you can just burst nico now lmao

[upbeat breach]

boss is 262, so you need 263 from what i remember

[arctic plover]

rc77 my goat

[glass vale]

Inferno Terror nerf in action

[young zealot]

Now people will panic pull for hoyan, smart move 🥸

[ruby canyon]

am I rly gonna have to 6* her

[carmine palm]

not seeing that build much in recent clears, I assume it's just reset until arm targets hoyan and not an autoable thing

[indigo oyster]

yeah the hoyan team is a RNG clear

[graceful juniper]

just like the dev inteded 🤣

[scarlet quartz]

niconana is at a good spot now i think terror is still bad for people missing certain units

[stable dagger]

did this team become consistent now?

it'll be a good QOL if they show the winrate of the team and add some filter system

[glass vale]

Yeah, I'd also like them to show if a clear is manual or auto aswell

[scarlet quartz]

They didn't change AI so it sounds still be pretty weird

Should*

Like terror is just targeting people randomly for fun

[left snow]

that team is auto

👍

[true trench]

this is not inferno related but the difficulty curve is really interesting going to anisync 27 from 26

[upbeat breach]

26 is just a speed check to see if you have 311 or not

horrible design

[true trench]

almost there, only like 50 off

[solemn swallow]

Am i saved🥹

[small knot]

No im cursing you to never get a +18 swift module

https://tenor.com/view/momonga-tweaking-chiikawa-shaking-covering-ears-gif-7797609015429508

[warped kestrel]

You are saved.

[stable dagger]

welcome to Etheria Restart

you've officially unlocked the full game

[young zealot]

You’ve entered the Etheria:start extension, gg

[tribal osprey]

you can finally play the game

[main elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1369791723697602650/1387463090014130329/image.png?ex=685d6f32&is=685c1db2&hm=e00c17113e0f571ccadafa1331d731d5d003c18f9a0438966c5e69cde92973ba&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1541&height=851
from 2min clear to 30sec clear, good nerf

now do the rest please

[indigo oyster]

what if no rosa?

[main elm]

any high single damage

[indigo oyster]

only one i have is diting

[main elm]

maybe next unit

[indigo oyster]

no gem

[left snow]

there is a f2p friendly package

but clear takes a long time

linglou-viper-valerian

[indigo oyster]

yeah i dont wanna built that💀

i mean i dont wanna use that team

[left snow]

well it might be somewhat fast now

it used to be a slug before the nerfs

[indigo oyster]

is the fix to viper as buff or nerf?

[left snow]

wait there is a viper fix ?

[indigo oyster]

yeah

[ruby canyon]

this is my fastest but kloss instead of rc might be faster

[left snow]

good old rc77

[ruby canyon]

yeah kloss is faster

and more consistent because kloss always gets stunned

[ornate moth]

was able to get it by abusing kazuyo sleeps but had to reset quite a few times

Man rengokutsu inferno has way too much RNG

I’ve cleared twice now and each one required like 20 resets

[upbeat breach]

Which team? the one with kloss+lily?

[ornate moth]

if add lands silence on lily/kloss/diting, reset. If kloss misses debuffs, probably reset. If boss starts on an element other than disorder, probably reset

[main elm]

they prob nerfed the drops aswell

[ornate moth]

part of the problem is my diting lacking some damage because I can’t get furyedge because I can’t clear fucking Terrormaton inferno

[main elm]

mine never has

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1369791723697602650/1387466662667620473/image.png?ex=685d7286&is=685c2106&hm=f16f8b9a98cec89f251ab76109bcc3571eb7d851a1d94212c9433f83df1fe12d&
just now auto terror inferno

[ornate moth]

well shit maybe I need to get the team set up to try that now that it’s been nerfed

what shells?

[main elm]

samurai

[ornate moth]

lol what

like kloss holden lily

[main elm]

codex holden codex kloss artisan lily, val is irrelevent

terror

[full delta]

People when they see diting nerf

[frosty willow]

game is already divided in Lily-haves and Lily-have-nots...

[full delta]

and Ssania haves and have nots

[frosty willow]

to some degree - yes

[full delta]

Glad people are clearing Inferno Terror with non dot now

[main elm]

he is already nerfed

coz of the new unit

[next thicket]

I've cleared with that team as well after the nerf, far from consistent though

but atleast theres a path to progression now, I guess

[main elm]

better gear makes things more consistent

[next thicket]

do 10 runs and let me know how you fare

[main elm]

80-90%

[next thicket]

impressive if not kappaclause

how fast is your holden?

[indigo matrix]

I need more codex smh

[carmine palm]

I'm doing same team for terror, 267 holden 265 Kloss 282 lily

I also tried hein instead of holden and it was like 20 seconds faster when it worked, but way less stable at least in the few runs I tried

[next thicket]

my holden is 269, kloss 245 or sth and lily 244, I can definitely bump both of those up to behind holden, I'm just not sure if it makes a difference

I dont think you want your lily to go before holden

[carmine palm]

The rotation works for me, everyone goes before the head in the proper order

[next thicket]

this is my diting for comparison

yeah but your first turn is kinda wasted no? you dont attack into the stripped def broken hacked boss

[carmine palm]

Lily -> Holden -> Kloss -> Diting

[next thicket]

doesnt seem worth it to me

[carmine palm]

diting doesn't move in front of holden/kloss

[tight laurel]

32k posts 👀

[carmine palm]

in my setup

[next thicket]

oooh I getcha

yeah thats fine then

[arctic plover]

it works as their diting is slow enough that even when pushed by lily he goes after kloss.

In which case lily's speed is irrelevant

[next thicket]

maybe I need to experiment with maybe slowing diting down

[carmine palm]

my diting is 5 speed slower than yours

[next thicket]

yeah that might be it

[tight laurel]

What speed is needed to go first in inferno doki?

[carmine palm]

263 to beat the head consistently is my understanding

[tight laurel]

Doki tho?

[carmine palm]

oh I'm dumb and can't read

uh 286?

somewhere around there? I forget

[tight laurel]

Yea I've seen a few numbers around there

[arctic plover]

if the speed of your diting divided by 0.7 is smaller than your kloss speed he will go after kloss, no matter the lily's speed

[tight laurel]

What is this? What's going on here 😆

0.7?

[carmine palm]

First 10 run attempted

[arctic plover]

lily pushes 30%

[tight laurel]

Oic. I've been wondering how speed plays into rotating, and thought you had cracked that

[arctic plover]

I guess divided by 0.8 if you didn't lattice your twintrick

[tight laurel]

Like how much faster will a 200 speed rotate over a 150

[carmine palm]

Problem now is I think if I get like any kind of gear upgrade or move anything this timing won't work at all, lol

[next thicket]

yeah I've been making gearsets for pretty much every piece of content at this point

[carmine palm]

yep, have to

oh yea I'm dumb, I just awakend one of the two codexes and bricked my order lol

[main elm]

+145

[warped stump]

Pretty sure dark moon works for Kloss here and is better than codex for this specific team

If you happen to have it available

they both lead to 3 turns of effective debuff but DM lets her use her atb push skill next instead of another defbreak while keeping the same debuff duration

[twilit vault]

if Holden going first makes Kloss target the head consistently then yeah i agree

on Hell 4 where I didn't use Holden she threw the dark moon dagger at the left hand for some reason

[warped stump]

Did you set target lock

[next thicket]

could be good, I guess if you miss the first one you are fucked either way

[twilit vault]

true might have been because of regular auto

or not having targeting priority set to on in the consistent battle mode

[warped stump]

That's probably what it was, now ya know

[next thicket]

and unlike codex I could actually farm sharon inferno

big if true

[upbeat breach]

Any of you guys did this cancer with green light?

[carmine palm]

So I was wondering why runs were failing after updating gear despite seeing same order when I ran the fight on auto non-continuous. My holden has 271 speed and my kloss is at 270, but sometimes she goes first and wastes the S3.

[next thicket]

is your lily still fastest? is maybe her speed buff throwing it off

since kloss has higher base spd

[carmine palm]

yea but why wouldn't that happen every time then?

maybe it comes out to a tie after lily

[next thicket]

that I dont know, there may be some kind of speed rng

[carmine palm]

and then rng

[surreal bobcat]

used massiah, dorothy, valerian, kazuyo and kloss

[upbeat breach]

So I guess I cant do it without kloss =/

[surreal bobcat]

i mean any debuffer works....

[upbeat breach]

I wish it was like that

kloss just does way too much

[carmine palm]

actually no, that wasn't it because you can see from the screenshot, the order is different before the arm or lily even move

[chrome meteor]

do we have a relatively friendly comp for inferno hoyan yet? no ssania yes lily no kloss

[carmine palm]

Must just be some rounding error, probably hidden decimals on the speed roll and then it rngs. I dropped a few speed on kloss to be safer

[glass ruin]

hey any new terror team comps?

[quick sapphire]

Finally cleared Sharon in ethernet rally. Mio(No investment)/Vice(4star)/Massiah/Freya/Kloss, just lapped her so much

[left snow]

obol, lily, lingluo, celince if you have celince

[chrome meteor]

fk

no celince

;-;

what role does celince play in that team

[carmine palm]

makes the adds not retaliate

[chrome meteor]

hmmm

fk

[left snow]

you can try kazuyo instead but its not very reliable

[chrome meteor]

means can't replace with kazuyo...

nah

[civic relic]

She makes the fight 5x easier lol

[chrome meteor]

both lily s3

obol s3

[left snow]

yeah you need to make sure adds dont attack

[chrome meteor]

will wake the adds

[left snow]

and kazuyo wakes them up

kraken with codex might work

[chrome meteor]

hmmm

fight goes on for qutie a while i assume tho

so codex loses its value already

...

[left snow]

yeah its gonna be skethcy

[chrome meteor]

damn that sucks

ig stuck perma farming nico

lol

[ruby canyon]

i mean i'm auto farming hoyan with obol lily double sustain, it's just slower

i need my resources to lvl up holden for terror, cant lvl celince yet

[left snow]

you mean like lingluo sania or valerian there somewhere ?

[carmine palm]

I need to go back and try inferno sharon again, last time I kept dying when she had 2% life left and gave up on the rng

[ruby canyon]

if you feel unsafe go into target menu and select 1st add as prio, is a bit slower but with 1 add dead it's practically guaranteed win

[chrome meteor]

have people tested the new inferno terror?

doable now without DoT?

or massiah lily

[ruby canyon]

yes it's doable with diting lily holden kloss valerian

[chrome meteor]

what if no kloss

[ruby canyon]

dinah?

[chrome meteor]

sure

like basically

same as hell team?

[ruby canyon]

it's green boss so i'd guess dinah would work

[chrome meteor]

whateever u ran for hell just do same for inferno

just with juiced up stats?

[ruby canyon]

i think it's still rly hard, holden needs 265 spd

[left snow]

you might need some good gear upgrades since kloss provides utility dinah doesnt

[chrome meteor]

thats fine

i can make all my units 260+ if needed

except diting ofc

XD

and valerian

[left snow]

you just need holden + lily to be above 262 speed

[chrome meteor]

oh tahts easy then

i can do 300 lily

[left snow]

terror main body is 262 so you wanna be faster than that

[chrome meteor]

and 260-280 holden

mmm ok gotcha

im thinking

maybe speed timeweave

for holden

instead of usual bramble defense or other sets?...

for more consistent attack down dispel and pushback?

[surreal bobcat]

how long does it take to kill one of the side ads? also do you have skill ups on obol?

[carmine palm]

yea I just run him as a debuffer, he's only on swiftrush set with 180% acc

[chrome meteor]

gotcha ok

maybe 1 defense% right side piece

and rest eff acc

[ruby canyon]

yes s1 max, it takes probably 2-3 mins if you kill an add first

[surreal bobcat]

interesting

[left snow]

whats your wr on auto ?

[chrome meteor]

and do u kill arm first?

[ruby canyon]

100%

[left snow]

oh damn

[carmine palm]

no just body

[surreal bobcat]

ling+val as your sustains?

[left snow]

thats higher than my ssania lol

[chrome meteor]

really?

even if my diting kinda ass?

[ruby canyon]

well it's double sustain turtle so i'd hope so lol

you can do it with vice too I saw a bunch of interseting builds

[carmine palm]

I haven't tried killing arm first since the nerf, but when I first got to inferno it was going to take way to long and he'd ramp. Arm is annoying but not the real problem

[surreal bobcat]

you mind sharing your sustains? i'll try it out with ssania instead of obol

[chrome meteor]

hmmmmm

logic checks out

issue i have

is just the nature of terror runs

usually fail cuz one squishy doesnt' get an artisan cast or smth

[carmine palm]

you might want to look at recents for some replays to check though

[chrome meteor]

and then they get lazered

mm ok

[carmine palm]

yea you have to have decent luck with the def breaks and valerian's cheat death

[chrome meteor]

yea

hmmmmmmm

[ruby canyon]

sure sr sania and lingluo

[chrome meteor]

Off topic this is kinda good for Lily right?

since lily doesn't need ACC

[surreal bobcat]

s1 lingluo max, smart gamer

[chrome meteor]

she can just stack defense for juiced barriers?

[ruby canyon]

it's required for auto aurora haha

also just so comfy

ez 100 clear on the union boss today thanks to her

[surreal bobcat]

yeah i need lattice and i am gonna max her s1 and s3

[chrome meteor]

need need to go back into GP farming

.>

[surreal bobcat]

ty, will try it out

[chrome meteor]

i used up blue mats on obol and viper lol

[ruby canyon]

I spent sooo much stamina during the 2x

on gp

[tribal osprey]

Almost had my Yeli shell...

[chrome meteor]

i spent a good amount too

but

not all that much

i wanted to squeeze out mileage on dokidoki

[left snow]

why not just revelation

[chrome meteor]

so i don't need to think about my dokidoki team that much

[tribal osprey]

This is for pve. Pvp I'm going revelation

Also I can't farm revelation rn since no ssania

[carmine palm]

what comp you doing sharon with?

[tribal osprey]

The diting lily one

[carmine palm]

with cachi?

[tribal osprey]

Yep

[left snow]

if you have lily you can farm hoyan with evi's comp i guess

[carmine palm]

is it auto? I saw a lot that were doing manual with coded S3 S2 S3

*codex

[tribal osprey]

Here's the thing. I don't have purple cubes

[left snow]

okay well rip

[tribal osprey]

Yes

[ruby canyon]

technically it should work with obol at 1/1/1 its just mega slow

[tribal osprey]

It would be 100% if my diting had one more dupe

[left snow]

btw have you tried viper instead of sania here ?

for damage mit and attack down

[carmine palm]

I'll try again since my diting is better now than yesterday

[ruby canyon]

on hoyan? i don't think viper will work

celince does tho she's obv bis if you have her built

[tribal osprey]

This is what I'm running at p3

[chrome meteor]

are inferno shells more expensive?

or exactly the same as regular mythics

in terms of upgrades

[left snow]

i just imprinted them and didnt 0->100 them

[tribal osprey]

Should be the same

[chrome meteor]

gotcha

[carmine palm]

ya yesterday I only had momentum set when trying it which is obv not ideal for that fight lol

and I finished cachi S3 this morning

[orchid needle]

How game changing is maxing her s1?

[ruby canyon]

yes

even more so than kloss s1

[twilit vault]

im using maxed S1 Lingluo on both Aurora & Doki with decent consistency

your buff bar just fills up with whale prayers for the whole battle pretty much

speedtuned my celince team for a more consistent Diting speed kill on Hoyan and found out ive ran out of module set space

every set devoted to one dungeon or another for a proper speedtune lol, where am i supposed to store my pvp bulwarks etc

[next thicket]

that gear set hud needs some improvement too

[twilit vault]

i just wish it had a search bar at the top to filter by name, would make it 1000x better to use

just type "doki" to see all the sets for Dokidoki

[carmine palm]

Glad we have it at all, but yea hope they iterate on it soon

[next thicket]

or team sets

[carmine palm]

wonder how all these CC's hyping the shit out of Yeli are going to actually play her tomorrow, I don't think many are going to be sitting on 8-12 lattices

[twilit vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896489320360316968/983778755396919346/this.gif

[tribal osprey]

who? I see most saying they are skipping

Do you know if I can use lingluo + cachi/valarian for the auto hoyan team? @ruby canyon

[carmine palm]

Tsu/Matelria/Seiimore from what I've seen so far, saw other thumbnails pumping her up but didn't watch them

TimaeuSS as well

[royal furnace]

Yeli will save me

For sure

[tribal osprey]

seii literally said hes pulling cause magical archer 💀

[royal furnace]

8 lattices saved

[carmine palm]

Car also pulling

[tribal osprey]

who?

ngl idk half of the people you are saying 💀

[carmine palm]

caR_6

[ruby canyon]

uhh probably but if someone dies you dont have a res thats why i like sania

[tribal osprey]

rip 😭

[ruby canyon]

when sania res they revive without the def break stacks which is nice

[tribal osprey]

damn, getting gate kept by celince 😭

[sour lotus]

dark moon is ass

it only extends 1 single debuff randomly every 3 turns

[twilit vault]

ive used the shell and noticed inconsistencies in its debuff extension, sometimes you get both 3 turn speed & def break, sometimes only one of them, seldomly none

maybe it's subject to the same 10 % innate resistance thing or something

[sour lotus]

oh

lol maybe it's bugged

if it extended everything it would be top tier

because it just makes all your debuffers better

[twilit vault]

and it gets swiftrush timeweave, have to get lucky with matrices though

[sour lotus]

If it extended every debuff+you use Timeweave you could have crazy uptime on debuffs

and in turn you could abuse momentum set

would be nice to get a clarifaction on if dark moon is working as intended or bugged

[orchid jackal]

Doesnt it only extend on the 1 debuffed enemy? (the one hit by the attack)

[sour lotus]

I only ever seen it extend 1 debuff in general but according to anak it can extend multiple debuffs randomly

which seems odd

either the description is wrong
it's bugged
or it accounts for RES again

[orchid jackal]

Are we talking multiple debuffs as in debuffs in different units? Or multi debuffs in the same targeted unit?

[sour lotus]

debuffs on the same target I'm asuming

[twilit vault]

it extends the non-control debuffs on the enemy the dark moon "dagger" attack hits, but sometimes rarely it is inconsistent for some reason

most of the time i get 3 turn speed & def break on the targeted enemy when using it on Kloss

[sour lotus]

oh wait a minute

I think I might have noticed an issue

it says it only extends debuffs inflicted by the user

so if there's another character doing the same debuff, does that overwrite which character it is attributed to, therefore leading to weird extensions?

[sly hazel]

it does, and it can even increase the duration of hack in if you can apply it in the turn dark moon procs

[twilit vault]

it only extends the debuffs inflicted by the owner of the shell on the turn dark moon activates, so the debuffer would need to apply the debuff on that turn to extend it, that's my understanding of it

[scarlet quartz]

this terrormaton homie needs to get executed

it's so rng

[gilded mirage]

How is the nerfed Terror and Nico?

[scarlet quartz]

terror still very much an issue

nico is fine i think

[ruby canyon]

oo terror is clearable for me now

[twilit vault]

same even with scuffed team where Holden doesn't even go before Terror

that speed check is actually insane if you dont have lattices in Holden S1 lol

[trail sleet]

I'm glad to see some people have passed it. I myself have had absolutely zero luck doing so.

[twilit vault]

disclaimer for me is ive been farming doki & aurora inferno & all units have pretty cracked shells at this point. not applicable to people who've just unlocked inferno

but i would have had to make Holden outspeed the boss to clear that run if it had 20 percent more hp that's for damn sure

[weary quail]

My issue with inferno is rewards gained vs time and effort spent on it. Mostly related to inferno stage for shells i cleared. Geting yellow quality shells on inferno and apending 300 stamina to get 1x 2 matrix red was a bad experience for me. I went back to doing hell stage cos hell gave me 4 to 6 reds pets per 10 runs and took 20 runs for time it takes 1 inferno clear....

I like my time, and this feels like huge waste to even bother

[fringe mesa]

this game for the birds lol

[carmine palm]

yea my team (same as above) outspeeds the main body but I still would've had no chance yesterday. and it's still not super stable, depending on who gets targetted/broken

I did like 800 or more stam today in terror and didn't even get the "collect three pieces of the non-furyedge module (forget the name)" hyperlink mission completed

and that's the benefit of someone with a nearly full roster and a decent amount of lattices/gear on that team, still going to be a rough fight for the average player

[finite palm]

Who decided it would be a good idea to give the dokidoki enemies a million effect res?

[chrome meteor]

This for me is way bigger than the difficulty itself

The rewards don’t really feel like they’re worth it

lol

[weary quail]

Yup, i dont mind dificulty, i can work on it, learn and clear etc

But geting yellow pet....

And not 1 but 29 lol

There should be only red pets with chance to be 3 matrix

[frozen stone]

It’s just so they can farm playtime

To show for their investors

[pearl knot]

the only reasoning that makes any sense

[trail sleet]

Okay the people here seem very like-minded. I need opinions. I have a level 62 account that is currently hardstuck because I am unable to clear quite literally any inferno content.

My account is only missing Shadow Sonia and Mio.

However,
On one of the newer servers I decided to hop over and try my luck since I've been stuck for over a week. And the first two characters I pulled were shadow Sonia And whatever the god gun dude is I can't remember his name.

And I have yet to invest in the game anything money-wise. Do I drop everything from my original server and restart or do I stick with it and hope to RN Jesus that I pull shadow Sonia before they eventually either end of service the game or actually do their fucking job and Nerf everything like they should have done from the beginning. And by Nerf everything I mean inferno.

[chrome meteor]

I mean I’ll be honest

It’s a lie that the game is marathon and not a race

Everything up until inferno is absolutely a race

There’s a huge difference between players who were able to use 2x weekend to farm speed modules and those Stuck in lower difficulties

However I think once u get to inferno

It REALLY DOES become a marathon

As someone who can’t farm inferno modules, I still outspeed ALOOOOT of people who can but haven’t actually gained anything inferno worthy from farming inferno

So it’s really up to u, new strats are coming out everyday that don’t require sssania

Nico nana has a super easy 100% strat only requires Lily which you have

[pastel inlet]

u can clear doki doki inferno if you have every character but ssania and mio. you can clear niconana (they nerfed it). I havent touched terror, but i assume its also possible after some farming

[chrome meteor]

U could literally just perma farm niconana until more changes come

Cuz clearly they are considering the various difficulty of their content

And making reasonably paced adjustments based on player feedback

Only issue is Lily but that’s a separate irrelevant topic cuz u have her

[pastel inlet]

ye lots open up with lily

having ssania prob makes it even easier, but shes not a hard requirement

[weary quail]

Personaly only inferno i did clear is for shells, but I am happy with my account. I also dont have mio or shadow sania. But gona get em one day 🤣

Btw i am lvl 64

[chrome meteor]

If no lily just reroll

[scarlet quartz]

Lily Diting is tricky for terror but it is more reasonable now

[pastel inlet]

honestly ye. glad i got it on my 3rd rr account. i was panicking without ssania, but i just needed to accumulate shells and modules and things seem fine.

[chrome meteor]

Ssania was like

Steroids to the marathon running

They get a huge head start

[pastel inlet]

[trail sleet]

Okay so I'll follow up with this question. When I geared my characters, I focused on what websites guides etc said was best in slot. However,

Most of that is not speed gear at all. Should I just be focusing on speed gear? Because right now I have two DPS in what I would consider the best crit sets that I can get currently. I have plenty of shells that are maxed out, but I've still been unable to clear anything inferno

[chrome meteor]

But they still end up having to run the same race as everyone else

Not having Lily on the other hand

[scarlet quartz]

inferno is a rather big speed check

[pastel inlet]

ye i felt bad for falling behind, but they are like what 2 weeks ahead? will equalize in a month or two

[chrome meteor]

Ur a fucking paraglympic athlete in a race with people who have normal limbs

[chrome meteor]

Yea and i mean

[pastel inlet]

its more about speed tuning for specific dungeons. lily + rosa or xia (rev) will do good in dokidoki inferno

[chrome meteor]

I can’t farm doki inferno

Yet my lily is 306 speed

[pastel inlet]

u have rosa or xia?

[weary quail]

I will help you more in pvt so we dont spam here

[chrome meteor]

Speed is king

[pastel inlet]

ye my lily is nowhere near that lol

[chrome meteor]

Like u don’t even need cracked dps gear

I literally cleared dokidoki without a dps

Only using gray as supplementary damage

[trail sleet]

[chrome meteor]

And Rev kazuyo as my main dps

Inferno^

It took 5 minutes but shows it’s possible

[pastel inlet]

bigger dps makes it more safe

[chrome meteor]

Ofc

[pastel inlet]

but Rev and lily do big work

[chrome meteor]

But speed is what matters way more

U can deal dps if ur fast enough to do so

But u won’t be able to even take a turn if ur too slow

Speed >>>>>>> damage early on

ESPECIALLY cuz half of the game u can just dot cheese and call it a day

[pastel inlet]

my units are around 250 speed for my dokidoki inferno. i do have a 50% clear rate though, i need more skill ups and proper shell on a couple of units, just fillers atm.

[twilit vault]

id say yes to speed gear because theres so many layers of rng to it it isn't even funny

[pastel inlet]

ive gotten dupe on lily and no ssania, hurts my soul

[chrome meteor]

I have 3 doki dupes and a Heinrich dupe

[chrome meteor]

Is there?…

Doesn’t seem to hard compared to other games LOL

[pastel inlet]

i also got 1 doki and 1 hein dupe. i thought my account was dead because ive gotten more light/dark then rgb units.

[chrome meteor]

Lmao

[twilit vault]

consider trying to get an effect accuracy piece for a debuffer: you have to roll the correct set (1), with preferably 3 pips (2), with 3 or more substats so you can actually put rolls into speed (3), and then actually get lucky and have the substat rolls go into speed (4)

[chrome meteor]

Well

Yea

No shit

Game is about optimizing gear

Ofc when u need a very specific right side piece

U need luck to get the best stats

[twilit vault]

ofc you can run off set pieces but then you cant complete 12/8 let alone 12/12

[chrome meteor]

Like just don’t play games with gear

Go play a roguelike

[twilit vault]

right, i was just answering the question of "is focusing farming speed gear worth it"

[chrome meteor]

O

Yea I forgot

Somehow

Mb

[cedar aspen]

toastymellos has been warned

Reason: Spam

[chrome meteor]

Oh fuck you bot

[twilit vault]

you need a pretty big pool of modules to be able to speed check them up to a wanted level

[chrome meteor]

Yea ur totally right

[scarlet quartz]

modules and coins

YO

i need help for my guildie

anyone running khloros diting

for inferno

[split halo]

Are they doing inferno?

Oh my fault

I can one tap at he’ll 4 with diting with L modules

[split halo]

I can try to help

[brave heath]

anybody running aurora with good consistency that doesn't have mia/lily

[crimson marsh]

does anyone have an auto diting comp for Infernal Hoyan have almost every SSr but no SSania

[chrome meteor]

Not sure exact comp but

Definitely Celine

Celince*

[left snow]

you should try evi's comp

obol, lily +2 sustain

he has a 100% wr

better than my ssania auto on hoyan lol

[crimson marsh]

do you have a link to it

or a person I can dm

whats evi's disc

[left snow]

its evi

it is obol,lily,sania,linglou

obol s1 max and thats it

[crimson marsh]

I have an obol with s1 max

I would need to see speed and stuff

this one?

[ruby canyon]

its very budget

[left snow]

yes that guy, he actually hangs ou-

[crimson marsh]

oh if you have stats that would be great

I have all those characters

[ruby canyon]

basically just scraps on obol

it was only consistent auto by doing this though, which makes it slow

[crimson marsh]

idm slow as long as I can auto it

I've been speed tuning a diting/celine/lily/kloss comp but my lily s2 max is making my life hell

[ruby canyon]

you can even put hoyan last if you're really struggling

[crimson marsh]

is there any speed tuning for the rest of your team

or can I just use regular stuff with highest speed possible and eff acc on obol

also is val over Sania ok

[ruby canyon]

mm it worked as well for me but if someone dies you cant res

so it's not 100%

unless you're like really tanky i guess

if you're taking it slow in this fight you will go to 0 defense on everyone due to her stacking debuff, so the max hp and revives from sania helps a lot

[crimson marsh]

okay ill try this

does Sania need to be 6 star

I cant do that

im kinda cooked if I need another 6 star

im out of everything

[chrome meteor]

holy 6 stars wtf

what am i looking at

[crimson marsh]

I have 0 blues purples golds and reds yea

im fresh out

[chrome meteor]

jesus christ

why am i looking at a levle 50 lingluo

[crimson marsh]

aurora auto

[chrome meteor]

does lingluo die?

[crimson marsh]

if she is low she sometimes got bear shield

[chrome meteor]

mmm

[crimson marsh]

which was making my runs not that good

[chrome meteor]

just have

3 bear shields

simple

[crimson marsh]

I have a shit ton of exp from double drop event

[chrome meteor]

🙂

[crimson marsh]

lvling isnt rly an issue rn

[chrome meteor]

it will be

since that means u'll have to farm investigation

in the future

[ruby canyon]

lol

[chrome meteor]

i mean its fine but just

kinda hard to look at

[chrome meteor]

ok but at least the units that are maxed makes more sense

[crimson marsh]

maxing the units u use for everything

[ruby canyon]

well most are maxed from using them not xp books

[chrome meteor]

is the opposite

of what u should do

xddd

[broken turret]

how do you got that many books and star materials

[crimson marsh]

I have enough to 6 star lvl 50 5 more units

im chillin bro

[ruby canyon]

i dont book them i use them

[chrome meteor]

holy

[crimson marsh]

most of the units were leveled through farming

[chrome meteor]

did u only grind investigations

LOL

[crimson marsh]

I did 3k stamina investigation 4k dokidoki 3k gp

[chrome meteor]

oh

[broken turret]

brotha why

[chrome meteor]

that seems pretty reasonable

[crimson marsh]

ur just making a lot of assumptions

[chrome meteor]

[ruby canyon]

I think I did 1k investigation 5k gp outpost 5k doki/aurora

I still dont have enough runes from gp

[chrome meteor]

im out of blue

;-;

cuz of all the new sr blue units that are meta now

[bleak stirrup]

Has anyone here being able to use DOT teams on Rengokutsu Inferno? I cant land a single DOT on him even though I know is not immunute to DOT

[ruby canyon]

he is immune to dot

[bleak stirrup]

no he is not

[bleak stirrup]

bad wording then

was this a recent change?

[glass vale]

No

[ruby canyon]

at least since launch

idk betas

[glass vale]

Inferno Rengo's always been immune to DoT

[bleak stirrup]

nope... I got the proof... so it must have being achange

I knew i was not loosing my mind

[left snow]

guess he wasnt immune in beta then

[bleak stirrup]

the kloss team loses 8/10 times because of silent

[ruby canyon]

yea rengo sucks

even with inferno gear it's not consistent at all, restart hell

[brave heath]

has any1 tried that hoyan/diting team in inferno terror, some people were saying you could make it hit hoyan?

[ruby canyon]

all the top clears rn are hoyan/diting so plenty have tried yea

but it's also doable with just diting now

[brave heath]

well i meant in here who has tried and actually auto'd it mayhaps

[bleak stirrup]

but hoyan needs at least lv3 passive and s3

[brave heath]

level 1 passive level 2 s3 so no

[bleak stirrup]

for Auto?

we not talking about clearing it, I mean auto

[brave heath]

all it would be is more damage, so yes it doesnt make or break

just makes the stats required lower

lol

[bleak stirrup]

well the problem with that is if doesnt hit her every time plus if you dont kill it fast enough the run fails, thats why the def down needs to land everytime

[ruby canyon]

I just auto with this, no resources to build hoyan anyway

[bleak stirrup]

thats the problem with kloss getting silent

I guess ama have to run that one too

[brave heath]

well isnt dinah def break like really consistent cuz multihit

[ruby canyon]

sorry that's for terror @bleak stirrup not rengokutsu

[brave heath]

you'd ahve to be really unlucky lol

[bleak stirrup]

not here, heck even in terror she missis half her debufs if resssit down from holden doesnt land

[brave heath]

talking about in terror

[ruby canyon]

yeah holden 1/1/3 makes it a lot more consistent

[bleak stirrup]

yeah in terror thats why i run kloss cuz cluss is guranteed

[ruby canyon]

at 1/1/1 you miss the res down a lot

[brave heath]

no lily

😦

[ruby canyon]

yeah you need someone to give diting 2nd turn and ult, so maybe beyontin

[brave heath]

ye actually guess lily isnt really a requirement for that kinda of comp

would need a skilled up beyontin tho for that ye

[ruby canyon]

yea she's not bis everywhere, but she's so generally useful and you can't afford to spend many lattices around... it's just unfortunate that tuning is so high that lily vs no lily makes such a huge difference

[brave heath]

ye i dont feel like having no lily is a complete lockout out of anything, just makes stuff generally easier

[ruby canyon]

i think adept has cleared everything without lily, does have ssania though

[crimson marsh]

@ruby canyon I figured out a diting comp

[ruby canyon]

could ask him

[crimson marsh]

ty for the help though

[brave heath]

also dont have ssania 👍

[crimson marsh]

took putting 290 speed on 2 units to beat my Lily

[brave heath]

the 2 lds i dont have

[crimson marsh]

not having SSania is cancer

[ruby canyon]

yeah but plenty of dot immune bosses he has cleared

[brave heath]

ye nico/aurora seem doable without lily, just need something to replace mia

well already doing nico and doki anyways

only really care about hoyan and aurora in the near future

[left snow]

im expecting a nerf to hoyan in the future

[ruby canyon]

this is my fastest nico comp, 29 sec

[brave heath]

hope so

[ruby canyon]

works with rc-77 too instead of kloss

[crimson marsh]

is that on auto?

or do you have an auto 1min or so clear for diting

the obol one im running is 2:30 clear

[ruby canyon]

ye auto im running val just so it's 100% so its like 1 min

[crimson marsh]

val instead of rosa?

[ruby canyon]

kloss can miss her thingy even at 200% effhit

lily val instead of tsuki kloss

or sorry instead of tsuki diting

i use rosa lily val kloss on auto

[crimson marsh]

ah I have a revelation Xiada or diting to use

guess ill stick to the obol clear for now at least its consistent

[chrome meteor]

What shells are u using?

Sania keeps getting silenced

I’m already running alicorn on lingluo

[ruby canyon]

gigabyte sania, supernova lingluo

[chrome meteor]

It’s not healing that’s the issue for me either

Obol just gets murdered

Sania useless too

Cuz he gets rezsed

And instantly murdered again

[ruby canyon]

oof

[chrome meteor]

Can u post ur full team?

Maybe I’m too fast

[ruby canyon]

I'm not on right now

[chrome meteor]

Here’s mine

[ruby canyon]

tbh hp is quite a bit lower than my units, and I'm running swiftrush cure on sustains

do you rly get murdered that badly

[chrome meteor]

Hmm ok

Yea

If obol gets hit by ST attack

And he does the double attack

Aoe

Then he dids

[ruby canyon]

Okay if its manual clear

[chrome meteor]

Even manual

[ruby canyon]

Use kazuyo instead of sania

And chain sleep the adds

[chrome meteor]

Hmm

But

I’m not dying to adds

[ruby canyon]

Yea but the add hits fuel his ult

[chrome meteor]

Obol can be full hp

[ruby canyon]

Which does aoe dmg and silence

[chrome meteor]

Ohhhh

Ok I didn’t know that

Gotcha

[ruby canyon]

He gets 3 stacks per turn and 1 for every add hit/counterattack

Or she i guess it's just hoyan in demon form lmao

If you have a kazuyo built for dokidoki, it will work very well for keeping the adds asleep, on manual at least

On auto lily and obol will break the sleep

[tribal osprey]

It was not a change. I posted the will field when we got to level 50. Just that only inferno should have not been dotable but they had the wording on hell and below

#1381927497083388027 message

[graceful cradle]

Battlewill wasn't even active in the vid

[indigo matrix]

Doesnt Yeti have mutliple follow ups in a single turn?

Why would battlewill not work

[tribal osprey]

How are you able to even test it?

[indigo matrix]

Thats something we can just ask the staff about

The dev should know

[tribal osprey]

That’s great! They’ll get back to us within the year

[indigo matrix]

I meaaaan truuuue but if we dont ask we wont know until theres so much data gathered that we can accept evidence but thats not happening

Or dataminers

[pearl knot]

What did you guys use to clear Sharon on Ethernet. The green/yellow restriction

My single target for green is bad

[tribal osprey]

Well it’s a good thing the current banner is a green single target

[ruby canyon]

I used asshu for dots

and using vice to perma taunt should also work

[pearl knot]

Oh he dots? These bosses all flop to dots in this mode

Did you lvl any of his skills

[ruby canyon]

I believe the one that makes his dot 3 turns

and I used doki doki (shadow walker) to reset his dot cd

[pearl knot]

What lvl did you raise him too

[ruby canyon]

4* whatever lvl

Also used him for apate

[indigo matrix]

How long before yeti release on asia btw

Curious to see what she can clear

[gilded mason]

5 hrs 12 mins iirc

[ruby canyon]

I do terror auto with that team but it requires holden on codex with 265 or more spd, kloss right after and diting 70% of that so lily pushes him right after

[indigo matrix]

Oh damn asia server is way closer to america than i thought

[gilded mason]

All servers same.time

[indigo matrix]

Huh so when is America then?

[pearl knot]

awsome ty

[gilded mason]

5 hrs 12 mins

All servers releasing at the same time

[tall flame]

yooooo rank 1 aurora inferno clear time

lets go

no Lily

on auto

finally got my breakthrough into inferno

[sour lotus]

wait

[ruby canyon]

Nice, the rc77 tsuki tech strikes again

[sour lotus]

lol did you use RC to stun the flowers lmao

[tall flame]

no

you can't get him to target flowers on auto

without having everyone else target them

[sour lotus]

ah

[ruby canyon]

Is your rosa 5/5/5 I'm not on to check

Wondering if you need s1 5 for the push back

[tall flame]

4/5/5

I think S1 5 is a waste now

after the nerfs from beta

[ruby canyon]

Nice I can farm that then, mine is the same

[glass ruin]

is tsuki just better than lily there

[lilac lotus]

Hehe I don’t wana take credit but I did make the largest “pve to ez” feedback post in beta 😂😂

And they used my example for aurora being immune to dot and pushback 😂

[pure junco]

Welcome to PvP RNG Lily Restart Gacha sponsored by Thenya's Feedback

[tribal osprey]

Like how one dude complained about skin in rta

[restive silo]

I feel discouraged already with so much difficulty in all the PVE.

[tall flame]

I have no clue, I don't have a Lily so I can't test if Lily or tsuki is better

[languid basalt]

inferno nico?

[lilac lotus]

More like shadow sania restart 😂

[main elm]

ah yeah please come home after I'm clearing all inferno without u....

b!tch will stay lvl 1 in storage

[languid basalt]

you can cheese the game and speed up progression now

[main elm]

already clearing fast enough without her

1min terror inferno
1min Hoyan inferno
30 sec niconana

use her where exactly ?

[languid basalt]

just saying bro i didnt want to offend your OP acc

[main elm]

[bitter belfry]

LOL

[glass vale]

https://tenor.com/view/golf-who-want-some-fight-beat-up-hank-hill-gif-4001209195989718156

[tall flame]

anybody happen to know what speed the arm is in terrormaton?

what speed do you need to be to outspeed it?

Cause my tsuki is 302 speed and still getting outsped

maybe I need like 310?

[indigo oyster]

what if it's 400 speed

[gilded mirage]

Don't quote me but I remember it was something like 320

Might be 325

[sudden wedge]

it’s 310

you need 311

[stable dagger]

Sharon Ethernet Rally team I auto it with this team it requires an LD tho

[pure junco]

Sorry Legat. You need 12000 Speed

[undone vortex]

the witch is ded

[hollow basin]

What difficulty

[crimson marsh]

did anyone clear NicoNana Ethernet Rally without SSania
and can post their comp

[tall flame]

oops I was messaging in general chat

ok how tf do you beat Sharon inferno without Lily

I stg it cannot be possible

[undone vortex]

love and friendship

[tall flame]

I've tried khloros, diting, and hoyan paired with cachi, sania, Valerian

and every single comp I've seen uses exactly what I'm running, but instead they have Lily

it cannot be possible without Lily i don't believe it

I would need furyedge minimum

and like full timeweave

[gilded mirage]

You use Yeli and attack 10 times in a row

[tall flame]

waaiiitt you're kinda cooking tho

[undone vortex]

they were like I heard ppl are struggling with sharon

[tall flame]

it would steal the speed up buff too

[undone vortex]

so we made a DPS with self cleanse

that's light

[tall flame]

so then I can actually get speed up without Lily

[tall flame]

lol the solution to not having an LD is a different, more limited LD

love it

[undone vortex]

XD's mind ugh

[tall flame]

I think tomorrow when I pull Yelli, then sharon inferno will actually be possible

[gilded mirage]

Yup, other options are Helkid, Mia, Cachi for defensive, slower play

[tall flame]

yeah I would need waaayyy too much investment to make the tank down comp work

[indigo oyster]

what if u use vice or kazuyo the manual

[tall flame]

and I've seen the clears

they take 6+ minutes

shit cannot be worth it

[undone vortex]

vice would always have a debuff to cleanse

[gilded mirage]

Yeah for Helkid but Mia might actually be great since you'll also use her in Aurora

[undone vortex]

for all the heals

[tall flame]

yeah vice doesn't work

sadly

[tall flame]

mia is like 1 of 4 characters I dont have sadly

[gilded mirage]

The other way is Beyontin with two nukers. So Diting + Yeli.

[tall flame]

lol you got jokes

[indigo oyster]

kazuyo with max s3 and s1 and manually stun the ads💀

[tall flame]

"nuking sharon inferno"

[gilded mirage]

Basically Lily doubles your unit DPS, so instead just run 2 DPS

[tall flame]

yeah I'll have to run two dps

[gilded mirage]

Bro watch, someone's eventually gonna clear it with Beyontin and 3 DPS on Codex

[tall flame]

but the issue is the spd+ buff

Lily giving speed up buff is sooooo important

because otherwise sharon gives herself spd+ and laps you till next tuesday

[pure junco]

Just take with you do normally against her and amplify it

[tall flame]

I've tried running valerian, Khloros, Hoyan, Valerian, Cachi / Sania

and it doesn't work

it's not even close

[gilded mirage]

Honestly though, I believe in the 3 DPS nukage. Cause Diting with 2 S3s basically takes Sharon to half HP

[pure junco]

Guess that means you're rolling for Yeli

[gilded mirage]

That's with White Fang so maybe 2/3rd without it

[tall flame]

yeah I'm pulling Yeli regardless

[gilded mirage]

Thats also on my trash 2/5 Diting

[tall flame]

I'm a Rosa, khloros player

so Yeli is going to go dummy hard with those two

I'm so ready for this banner

• 10 pity into massiah banner

[gilded mirage]

Damn, so Sharon counters you cause both of those need debuffs right?

Or is Khloros not really a debuff

I don't have him

[tall flame]

yup

I can't run my ling, tsuki, rc, rosa

[gilded mirage]

Yeah literally counters you lol

[tall flame]

khloros and hoyan are my only two options

that I'm building I should say

[gilded mirage]

Hoyan needs heavy investment...

[tall flame]

I'm planning on hyperinvesting into her after this

my next 8 lattices are going into her

[gilded mirage]

After Yeli you mean lol

[tall flame]

nah I'm not going to lattice yeli

[gilded mirage]

Whaaaat

She needs S3 max atleast

[tall flame]

she'll be put on the back burner for a while

yeah but yeli isn't going to fix any of my infernos rn

[gilded mirage]

I guess it's not like you NEED to clear Sharon now

[gilded mirage]

Just reset til she 10 proccs, easy

[tall flame]

lol true

Hoyan is a key piece of one of my guild war defenses

and I wanna use her for pvp too

[gilded mirage]

Makes sense. I've had success with her in PvP no Lattices LOL

[tall flame]

so Yeli will have to wait

[gilded mirage]

I'm only Diamond II in RTA, probably won't work in Masters lol

But Hoyan seems more about the draft rn

[tall flame]

"we nerfed terror and nico because there's too much of a Ssania diff"

meanwhile shadow flame hoyan be like:

literally running 3 characters bro

[outer falcon]

Do pities carry over?

[tall flame]

yes

[pure junco]

They fixed it

[outer falcon]

Good to know, thanks

[pure junco]

Complainers 🤡

[gilded mirage]

I have no idea how these fuckers are doing that lmao. I can't believe Lily is actually just slowing me down here HAHA

[tall flame]

anybody know of literally any other comps to clear inferno hoyan or inferno rengo?

cause I haven't found anything on leaderboard recent clears or clear time

[pure junco]

No idea

[gilded mirage]

Tbf them nerfing it atleast makes it possible for people to "step up" earlier. You can farm Nico for thousands of Stam, same with Terror

[tribal osprey]

someone said lily obol +2 sustain

[pure junco]

Haven't found anything faster or free to play simple. Since I have Lily it's a little easier

[gilded mirage]

Rengo but needed Lily... I used Xiada comp. It's also manual. But you can probably get Cachi, Freya, Val, Rosa. Cachi replacing Lily for a bit more defensiveness.

I saw a Rosa murder Rengokutsu without Lily but it was 5/5/5/

[tribal osprey]

but what would a yeli do? 😏

[pure junco]

If only we had that much gold lattices

[tall flame]

ok I'll try that comp

[indigo oyster]

I have yet to clear inferno terror or Nico even with lily

[tall flame]

I've got 4/5/5 so maybe I have a chance

[pure junco]

What are you using?

[tall flame]

also do you happen to know the comp of the non-Lily Rosa player?

[gilded mirage]

I'm pretty sure I saw a clear without it too but yeah I didn't screenshot it. If I see it again I'll ping you. You may actually use Kloss instead of Freya too

[tall flame]

mmm ok

[graceful juniper]

This comp is make or break....if obol fail land bunch of dot/stun then the run is doom

[indigo oyster]

Diting,lily,kloss,holden,Val - speed check need more on holden
Diting,lily,kloss,Val- I have yet to built mio or marvel

[gilded mirage]

Oh, someone just did this

You can replace Diting with Yeli probably

[tall flame]

ooooo ok

[pure junco]

I was just about to suggest Marvell lol

[tall flame]

Ima try that comp but with Rosa instead of Diting

and see how it goes

[gilded mirage]

Lingluo was actually great for Rengo, probablem was Xiada is also blue so I couldn't make it clear consistently

[gilded mirage]

You'll have same problem I did

Lingluo is blue

[tall flame]

ohhhhh

[gilded mirage]

You can probably clear if you get lucky

[tall flame]

you're right

[gilded mirage]

But it's not consistent

You can try with Mia

[tall flame]

maybe khloros can clear, but I kinda doubt

[gilded mirage]

But Lingluo S1 especially if max is just so good

[gilded mirage]

Yeah and none of his team mates there really hit a lot

[tall flame]

I have a 5/0/5 ling

so we should be good on survivability front

[gilded mirage]

Ngl maybe you should build Diting lol

[tall flame]

"build a diting they said"

[gilded mirage]

DAMN

And I thought my Diting luck was bad

[tall flame]

no Lily, no diting

my account really hated me

[tribal osprey]

wdym. the yt comment section said everyone should have every sr fully maxed rn

where diting

[gilded mirage]

Don't worry, you'll pull him rolling for Yeli trust

[gilded mirage]

Mines still 2/5...

[pure junco]

Oh you have Tsutomu

[gilded mirage]

And I thought I was one of the worst ones luck wise with Diting

I just got one upped

And I know Legoat is whaling lol

[tribal osprey]

Im at 3/5 😭

I legit cant auto sharon 100% cause of that 1-2 dupes

so dumb

[tall flame]

the funny part is I literally have ever other LD sr maxed....and no diting

you cannot make this shit up man

[scarlet quartz]

LMAO

just pull man

[gilded mirage]

worst part is, if Diting is not 5/5 some comps won't clear as well..
Like my Sharon comp

[scarlet quartz]

oh that could be why I'm always a legat penis length away from clearing it

[gilded mirage]

I'm pulling Yeli later and I hope some pulls atleast go to Diting

[tall flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[tribal osprey]

same

[gilded mirage]

Literally I lose with last 5% HP on Sharon on most of my losses

[scarlet quartz]

My diting is missing a perfect pet so that will be my solution

no keeneye yet

[tribal osprey]

wait you have fury edge already? 💀

how you not clearing it

[scarlet quartz]

she lives with like 5-10% hp

[tribal osprey]

oh nvm

the keen eye 9

[scarlet quartz]

yeah

[tribal osprey]

💀

[scarlet quartz]

look at this shitter

[tribal osprey]

the gatekeeper

[scarlet quartz]

at least i got lucky on this fella