the-tavern

[obtuse valley]

They make things fun and you ruin it

[gaunt violet]

I got a dex necklace on my first down to hell from a cerberus lol

[reef hawk]

The real problem with bossing is that the efficient way is to do them in squire kits because bringing in any actual good gear will just cause you to lose it to the 7 rats waiting outside the boss room doors for you to get hit a single time but then if you beat the boss you still lose to the 7 geared rats waiting outside the boss room

[west surge]

are you able to use minor artifacts on arena?

[burnt turtle]

Nick 👁️ 🫦 👁️

[violet sand]

Hey question can you get a chest in Pve?

[obtuse valley]

Solo wyvern is so easy to defend ngl (after killing it)

[alpine stump]

with luck kit they drop uniques pretty often

[restive heart]

can we ban people who tk for no reason and isnt accidental

[azure snow]

What ya doing today big boul

[azure garnet]

i really hope they incresed the boss artifact drops cause i killed 63 bosses on ruins and only got a chest

[burnt turtle]

Im at work, twirling my pyoobs thinking about you

[mint parrot]

So did they guy rogue or…

Gut*

[burnt turtle]

Yes

[azure snow]

Same brother 👁️ 🫦 👁️

[empty bane]

lmao 3 mins to find wooden mask

[reef hawk]

Yeah but it's also the only boss that rewards the player for defeating it with an exit portal

[obtuse valley]

That exit portal is the most OP thing oat

Just fucking dance around it and you're basically invincible

[azure garnet]

not really if a wiz comes your cooked

[gaunt violet]

I'm still working on making mine ngl lol

[obtuse valley]

Wiz is easy to counter

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

At this point Squire Royale has reduced my gameplay loop to medieval recycling.

I extract good gear.
Put it in stash.
Never use it.
Repeat.

My stash is basically a landfill of unrealized dreams.

Ruins still spawns both empty boss modules.
Crypts still spawns its empty boss module.
I walk into them now like someone revisiting their childhood home:
“Man… things used to happen here.”

Meanwhile the only surviving boss is Demon Overseer in Inferno, hidden behind enough trio PvP to require a warm-up stretch and emotional preparation before attempting floor 3.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and my stash can stop functioning as a medieval recycling center.

[mint parrot]

Damn rip rogue dude

[empty bane]

he didnt even do nuthin

[reef hawk]

You should be rewarded with a quick exit if you defeat the boss. The game was so much better when inferno also had it.

[burnt turtle]

Is sorcerer worth learning or no.

[obtuse valley]

Wait, don't they have an exit portal still?

[lunar tapir]

Halberd Weapon Damage should've been reduced by 4. point.

[obtuse valley]

In the boss treasure room.

[azure snow]

Its gaaey

[burnt turtle]

Just seems like a hassle

[fleet oriole]

what is error code 21, i literally can not launch the game

[gaunt violet]

NGL the -1 to bardiche feels neglegent. I'm still killing mobs just as easy as before.

[empty bane]

turn off your rust hacks

or restart pc

Tavern is not running or angry

[obtuse valley]

-1 is literally nothing

That's why.

[gaunt violet]

NO REALLY?! :O

[obtuse valley]

Yeah, glad I could help you.

[gaunt violet]

[calm grail]

Me when i have low iq

[obtuse valley]

50-1=49 and 49 is just 50 but 1 less yk? Js an example for you

[burnt turtle]

I farted and cleared out the contractors from the room we're working in. Im finally free.

[azure snow]

Im about to do the same

[burnt turtle]

They said it smells like sour milk

[azure snow]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[burnt turtle]

Now i can carpenter in peace.

[obtuse valley]

They're lucky.

[azure snow]

We about to be in a meeting ima bust some silent killers

[burnt turtle]

Stupid electricians fear the robust bhole of the humble carpenter

[azure snow]

😈

[burnt turtle]

Im kind of like Jesus tbh

Carpenter, super chill, dont like the hook nose

Carpenter.

[obtuse valley]

You turning water into farts?

[empty bane]

yeah but Jesus was actually a house builder

so idk

[burnt turtle]

I do framing

[azure snow]

Ill do u

[empty bane]

oh you are basically Jesus then

[maiden sphinx]

iq is pseudoscience

[burnt turtle]

Youre a psuedoscience

[empty bane]

what if we could carry a boat

[burnt turtle]

Like minecraft

[empty bane]

ye

[obtuse valley]

What's IQ

[burnt turtle]

What if they add submarines

With torpedos

And a kraken

[drifting scaffold]

iq is pseudoscience

[obtuse valley]

And an underwater lab

[azure snow]

Malestorm would be lit

[burnt turtle]

And umbrella corp

[obtuse valley]

And like a boss Nemesis

[burnt turtle]

And Albert wesker

[azure snow]

And hunk as boss

[obtuse valley]

Pregnant Wesker

[burnt turtle]

Low-key I want a minotaur boss that stalks the dungeon and hits like a truck

Lowkirkenuinely

[empty bane]

How about if you caNT KILL the minotaur

like he's just unstoppable bs

[obtuse valley]

How about he one-shots you and steals all your items in stash

[azure snow]

Wb a pregnant goblin that sucks u off

[empty bane]

drawn to any large fight

[burnt turtle]

Oh my god pregnant knoblars swallowed my peanits

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

At this point Squire Royale feels like the game keeps showing me deleted content on purpose.

You’ll run through Ruins and see the giant boss modules still sitting there untouched like movie sets after filming ended.
Then Crypts hits you with another one just to make sure the emotional damage stacks correctly.

Meanwhile I’m extracting gear with absolutely nowhere meaningful to use it because the next match immediately sends me back into default kit unemployment simulator.

The only surviving boss is Demon Overseer in Inferno, hidden behind enough trio PvP to qualify as a competitive survival exam.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and I can stop wandering through unused PvE real estate like a disappointed property inspector.

[dreamy gazelle]

Anyone know the arti drops

[azure snow]

What if your character can impreggers a goblin and the offspring can aid u in battle

[empty bane]

artifact drop rate is super high because of SR

[dreamy gazelle]

Or the drop pools now

[empty bane]

like a 4 X increase of available

artifacts

[obtuse valley]

Fat goblin boss that shoots out kids

[devout grail]

#dnd-screenshots message idk how true it is

[azure snow]

Bros blocked tired of seeing his daily wine

[empty bane]

omg I killed the wrong giant jellyfish again

now I have to go to the water map again

pls

[azure snow]

Preg jellyfish?

[devout grail]

Blocked me? W

[empty bane]

ye I killed the preggo one

[obtuse valley]

water map is lowk fun

[empty bane]

not the giant one

which is actually TINY

[obtuse valley]

baby turtles are tasty 🤤

[empty bane]

sickos

[obtuse valley]

whenever you want to farm em it's just massacre of people fighting each other

[burnt turtle]

What about pregnant goblin race and their racial is if a player on your team dies once you're out of combat for 20 seconds you can give birth to them over 5 seconds once a match

[azure snow]

🙏

[dreamy gazelle]

Where was this posted

[molten arch]

is game up?

[burnt turtle]

No

They closed it due to lawsuit

[analog pendant]

Do you guys vendor gems you find or do you put it in the marketplace

[burnt turtle]

I market purples and higher

[vestal obsidian]

so like why is the window to overdraw so short

skill is dead now

[undone owl]

does anyone know if this season of arena will be self found minted items only?

[obtuse valley]

mint 🤤

[lavish sorrel]

Pretty sure the latest patch notes said all items.

[woven grail]

I really love having all this good gear and being unable to play highroller due to TPM and other bullshit. Sad there isn't some other solution like account age or purchase of in-game cosmetics that get you trusted or something. Been here since the beginning and just shafted.

[reef hawk]

Oh boy 2 damage off the halberd its jts fixed guys we're saved. Not like i just got three tapped by a squire kit halberd at 40% pdr or anything. but yep that 2 damage was real impactful

[grim loom]

When will spectral Coinbag's able to be crafted?

[trail sage]

Guys when is arena

[radiant spindle]

wait 2 week surely they wont think of another change by then and delay it more 🙂

[primal sky]

hi guys can someone tell me what should i sell my chest for right now?

[silent dune]

Sell it to me for 10k

[soft bronze]

same

[trail sage]

I will give u 10001g

[primal sky]

no im serious i dont know market value for chest

[main badge]

Try out the collectors guild they have better prices

[rich walrus]

🇨 🇱 🇺 🇪 🇱 🇪 🇸 🇸 🇩 🇪 🇻 🇪 🇱 🇴 🇵 🇲 🇪 🇳 🇹

[radiant spindle]

3.50

[soft bronze]

over 100k

[silent dune]

Wait a week for stuff to stabilize its all inaccurate asf rn

[primal sky]

i heard its around 140k but im not sure what i should sell it for worth 140k or even close to that, just artifacts?

[waxen garnet]

is it better to solo or duo the wyvern

[soft bronze]

yeah, nothing else is worth

[main badge]

That's like a full inv of dbs?

[desert drift]

Anyone know what the adjusted arti drops are

[gaunt violet]

I think this guy be smoking too much of the good stuff lmao

[latent iron]

wait wtf is arena not out today

[gray quiver]

Clowns

[late vortex]

lmfao cause these devs decided last min, (even trhough they had 2 weeks) to delay for another 2 weeks to add a new que to arena, fuking incompetence

[obtuse valley]

Solo is the easiest.

[burnt turtle]

OUH?! I AM PREGNAR BY GOBLIN

[obtuse valley]

HR or normal? In normals you can kill wyvern without it getting into it's third phase. It's just that easy in solos.

[gaunt violet]

People really crashing out over Arena pushed back to the 29th

[carmine void]

No fish update? 🥱

[gaunt violet]

Good greif lmfao

[carmine void]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[radiant spindle]

ive just been farming gold waiting for arena i aint trying to do that for 2 more weeks the fuck

[late vortex]

@hexed adder u guys had 2 weeks to figure out arena. you need another 2 weeks to add it. your season is only 3 months long. so we get 8 weekends to rank up in arena,,, why did u guys wait last min. plan better? i swear if the "new rewards" are ass im out...

[gaunt violet]

This guy thinks insults and trash talk is gonna get him anywhere lmfao

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out bud.

[late vortex]

facts arnt trash talk bud

that was all factual

[carmine void]

I’ve just been farming fish waiting for the fish arena ain’t tryna do that for two more weeks the fuck

[gaunt violet]

I stand by my statement.

[last cairn]

anyone know the artifact drop rate from hr wyvern this season, and what are the artifacts he drops?

[late vortex]

weird me too

[obtuse valley]

what if they added fishing... but on a BOAT.

[gaunt violet]

Go on, get outta the discord. No balls. 🥱

[wanton fern]

He drops all the bows and it’s like 9%

[late vortex]

you life is a story of ballessness dude. talk some mo behind your keyboard

[gaunt violet]

Didn't think so

[latent iron]

W devs

[last cairn]

dam bro wtf i killed him like 20 times alr guess im just unlucky

[quartz arch]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[carmine void]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[wispy mason]

Lowering halberd damage by 2 did nothing

[late vortex]

what that you had balls me either

[late vortex]

ye i know right

[azure snow]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[gaunt violet]

Apply for a job at IM then and propose your own nerfs and buffs?

[carmine void]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[late vortex]

what are u on about. we discuss the game here man not suck im dck

[carmine void]

YES HI IM ID LIKE TO MAKE A FISHING MECHANIC FOR YOU.

[obtuse valley]

give me dev i make goblin pregnant myself

[wispy mason]

Not only do i suck at the game i am also not familiar enough with the mechanics to do that. I'm just bitching about how everyone and their mom uses nothing but halberd.

[crystal isle]

Buff pregnant goblin, nerf non pregnant goblin

[gaunt violet]

Honestly absolutely fair.

[quartz arch]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[gaunt violet]

You would LOL

[carmine void]

WAIT TILL THEY FIND OUT ABOUT FISH THROWABLES

[last cairn]

using ur fists to kill ppl is the only true way to win

[gaunt violet]

Let me dual wield two giant frozen fishies to beat people with

[carmine void]

using ur fists to catch fish is the only true way to win

[obtuse valley]

im buffing goblin pregnant and make it strong

[wispy mason]

I'm just trying to learn how to play rogue bre, i die so fast

[empty bane]

anything less is just sparkling pvp

[carmine void]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[crystal isle]

Bro, start playing long sword disarm fighter and run high action speed. I’m giving out my cheat code here, but man it makes halberd users crumple

[azure snow]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[last cairn]

anything less is insignifigant

[obtuse valley]

goblin pregnant will throw its baby at you and it like hunter in l4d2

[carmine void]

Nobody cares about halberd stfu let’s talk about the absence of fishable fish instead

[obtuse valley]

make dev me

[wispy mason]

Never tried disarm tbh. Sounds real nasty

[obtuse valley]

lock quests behind fish

[carmine void]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[analog pendant]

wlock halberd so balanced ❤️

[obtuse valley]

Warlock halberd user ^

[carmine void]

Fighter large mouth bass so balanced ❤️

[wispy mason]

Also I'm a dirty hipster so i like using spear fighter. Would disarm be effective as well?

[hasty roost]

Wow the dark and darker wiki/map is actually updated, when did that happen

[obtuse valley]

buy dwarf and go baboon naked in dungeons with a club

[carmine void]

Does it mention when fishing will be added

[hasty roost]

yeah, about 15 mins

[obtuse valley]

16*

[maiden sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-squidding-me-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-squid-gif-26786461

[hasty roost]

damn IM and their delays

[carmine void]

🐟

[wispy mason]

I think going naked imp wizard bonking people with staff would be way funnier

[obtuse valley]

Shit's tough in this company

[crystal isle]

It used to be OP when it was just hit them and they lose their weapon, then it got nerfed to be only applicable when you parry so I stopped using it. Just put it back on long sword fighter with adrenaline rush and I’m literally killing geared halberd users in squire kit

[obtuse valley]

Imp - no bald
Dwarf - yes bald
Bald - shiny
Shiny - blinding

Think of it yourself now.

[crystal isle]

This is for solos more than anything else though not super viable in trios especially

[alpine stump]

do shackles have any guaranteed spawn or are they all 10% like dndtracker says

[carmine void]

@pure wigeon Oh wow, you fished. Congrats. You pressed right click at waters surface level and the game played itself for you. The fishing rod turns every mediocre angler into a walking “oops I fished” machine. Miss? Doesn’t matter. Bad tackle? Doesn’t matter. Brain turned off? Still doesn’t matter. Just fish for a perch and instantly delete someone who actually outfished you for 30 seconds straight.

[azure snow]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[pure wigeon]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[carmine void]

@exotic seal REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[wispy mason]

How is imp not bald bre? Aint no hair in that head

[thick hinge]

are we serious mud

[empty bane]

wait tho

he might have a logical point

[carmine void]

🎣 🤙

[empty bane]

like is baldness the inability to grow hair

regardless of whether it would benefit you or the speciies

[carmine void]

Are fish bald?

[empty bane]

what are scales made from

[carmine void]

Not hair that’s for sure

[gaunt violet]

Nope they have one tiny little hair on top of their heads for fluid dynamics when swimming

[obtuse valley]

he demon

[empty bane]

might be aform or keratin

[thick hinge]

do fish think they are dry and we are wet

[exotic seal]

Angler leaderboard!

[wispy mason]

Haven't considered that point tbh. Is baldness not having the ability to grow hair or having it but choosing to shave it off

[empty bane]

people can be born without the ability to grown hair at all, are they bald

[carmine void]

No they are fish

[wispy mason]

Does dagger mastery influence other weapons like rapier if i have a dagger in offhand?

[crystal isle]

I feel like baldness implies the ability to grow hair normally… so if something was never able to grow hair on a species level, it cannot be bald

[turbid bough]

is market open?

[thick hinge]

yea

[wispy mason]

Yes

[azure snow]

Is market open?

[crystal isle]

Fish market? Nah not yet

[carmine void]

Fish market opens end of month

[crystal isle]

Fish market? Nah not yet

[azure snow]

Is market open?

[crystal isle]

Nah yet? Fish market not

[carmine void]

my fish numbers turned yellow

[azure snow]

Im yellow

[crystal isle]

I just yellowed

[quartz arch]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[carmine void]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[azure snow]

REMOVE the MOBS from the ARENA. Add a LAKE to the ARENA. Add FISH to the LAKE. Make ARENA into a new mode called FISHING COMPETITION. 🎣 🐟

[pure wigeon]

Can't believe I need a new fishboard to play high roller

[burnt turtle]

Nick

[azure snow]

👁️ 🫦 👁️

[burnt turtle]

I just took a crazy poop

[crystal isle]

Ok

[burnt turtle]

I looked at it and it was standing up straight out the water like an iceberg

[azure snow]

I farted during the meeting it wasn't silent

[carmine void]

Where are you taking it? Where did you take it from?

[obtuse valley]

Proof

[burnt turtle]

Customers house

[crystal isle]

Name checks out

[burnt turtle]

Dookied all up in they turlet

[azure snow]

Even better

[devout grail]

I haven't seen it anywhere else yet. That's why I said I'm not sure how legit it is

[obtuse valley]

It was fentosaurus rex before 😔

[azure snow]

U blocked

[maiden sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-squidding-me-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-squid-gif-26786461

[crystal isle]

Good on you for getting clean

[devout grail]

W block

[azure snow]

I don't see how you can hate from outside the club
You can't even get in
Leggo

[carmine void]

I just want to upgrade all my fish benches this season

[crystal isle]

I just feel like they need to rework the whole fish hook mechanic it’s a little too broken currently

[azure snow]

Hook me up

👁️ 🫦 👁️

[crystal isle]

Bet

[wet stream]

I JUST WANNA PLAY HR!!!

[obtuse valley]

No.

[azure snow]

Hook my bhole

[devout grail]

Thought you blocked me...

Day 16 without High Roller…

Squire Royale genuinely feels like I’m playing the “lite” version of the game now.

You run past these giant unused boss modules in Ruins and Crypts like the devs forgot to remove them after the apocalypse, while every match turns into default kit PvP speed dating.

Meanwhile all my extracted gear just sits in stash aging like fine wine because there’s nowhere meaningful to actually use it anymore.

And if I want a real boss encounter now, I basically need to survive an entire trilogy of PvP suffering just to maybe earn the privilege of seeing one in Inferno.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and the game can stop feeling like a demo with extra footsteps.

[azure snow]

I don't see how you can hate from outside the club
You can't even get in
Leggo

[crisp plinth]

Sry bro I like not dealing with cheaters for the most part unless they have a super expensive setup to cheat with, I haven’t dealt with a single esper in HR

[carmine void]

IM shoulda done fish drops on twitch instead of another dumb torch skin holy hell I have like 300 different torch skins but literally zero new fish skins. Wake up IM let’s see some love for the fish enjoyer community

[radiant hound]

Hey there! I totally get why you’d love to get the High‑Roller back, but we can’t just turn off TPM, Secure Boot, or HVCI. Those protections are there to keep the game—and your system—safe from cheats and malware, and disabling them would create a huge security hole for everyone. On top of that, modern consoles and PC launchers simply won’t let a title run without those safeguards enabled, so the game wouldn’t even start if we tried to bypass them. Even if we could, the High‑Roller content is controlled on the server side, not by your local security settings, so flipping those switches won’t magically bring back the missing bosses or loot. Finally, making an exception like this would set a risky precedent; we’d start getting a flood of similar requests and it would break the overall safety model of the platform. The best way forward is to file a bug report or feature request through the official channels so the developers can investigate the missing content without compromising security. Hope that clears things up! 🙏

[bleak isle]

aint no way dnd has esports isnt this game dead

[molten arch]

@molten iris you know what it is my numbers turned today

[thick hinge]

its not hard as you think bro jus go in your bios and jus enable secure boot and tpm, then in your windows settings the hvci is there

[latent iron]

What was the result of the lawsuit?

[quartz arch]

esports in a game that struggles to maintain 5k in dungeon globally from mid-wipe?

[bleak isle]

all this secure boot and tpm just to be bypassed with a type 1 hypervisor smh...

[misty ridge]

Ironmace is allowed to continue operations as usual and Nexon was forced to pay some amount to refund what Ironmace did

[wispy mason]

I think i understand now why im dying every raid

[devout grail]

I haven't either in all my time playing but esp literally still works

[radiant hound]

its not bypassed. if you are playing in the VM then everything is working as expected

[misty ridge]

Supreme Court dismissed it, so the saga has ended

[wispy mason]

Everyone is geared and gemmed up and I'm going in full squires

[static mantle]

bout time

[radiant hound]

yep and these items were a step to fix that.

[bleak isle]

can you define bypass for me please

[carmine void]

-wake up
-open discord
-check announcements
-see no mention of fishing
-cry
-log off

[radiant hound]

work around?

[devout grail]

It'll come

[radiant hound]

one day fishmonger ONE DAY

[carmine void]

[devout grail]

My hardware isn't capable

[bleak isle]

oui, if eac cannot detect anything below ring 0, then its a bypass no?

[random anchor]

-wake up
-open discord
-check announcements
-see no mention of security changes
-cry
-log 😭off

[devout grail]

It literally didn't fix esp...

[radiant hound]

i cant tell if you are trolling but heres my good faith answer. if you madea hyperviser to "bypass" the TPM but enabled the TPM-secureboot-hvci in the VM and are playing dnd in the VM then... its not bypassed?

[carmine void]

@vale oar 🎣 🐟

[radiant hound]

right but its and say it with me. a step in the direction to stop it

[bleak isle]

you use a hypervisor to bypass eac lol

[weary pond]

same. such a shame i cant play HR without spending a decent amount on upgrades

[lapis birch]

dad goes full esports

[radiant hound]

whta could you do exactly do you think in this bypassed VM?

[random anchor]

😭

[bleak isle]

run code that cannot be detected by eac..?

[misty ridge]

We'll fish again 🐟
Don't know where ❓
Don't know when ❗
But I know we'll fish again 🎣
Some sunny day ☀️

[radiant hound]

but it cant? the TPM and HVCI are both signed by the TPM.

[crisp plinth]

It did fix it bro, there is a large majority of cheat providers no longer keeping up with producing cheats for the game because it is not profitable anymore. The only people who can cheat now literally are required to use a whole separate pc setup to be able to cheat undetected. Which is a super small chunk of the cheaters

[tepid narwhal]

L patch

[bleak isle]

if you say so buddy 😄

[radiant hound]

please tell me where im wrong? HVCI with signed TPM means any changes in memory are both obvciscated from the user and change state can be detected in the vm?

[static mantle]

i added u, forgot to do so before i left

[trim shore]

does anyone still play this game like how many 1k ?

[burnt turtle]

@azure snow damn boy. You got some big muscles... and I got some heavy tiddz. Think you could hold em for me?

[radiant hound]

secure boot means nothing loaded thats not suppose to be at start.

[burnt turtle]

👁️ 🫦 👁️

[bleak isle]

🤫 do your homework, its actually kinda interesting

[devout grail]

In... a... step... to punish the people who've been here supporting them since day 1. Did I get it right? Damn it

[wispy mason]

Spent almost 2k gold on a rogue normals kit. Lets see how fast i lose it

[radiant hound]

to stop cheaters yep.

[crisp plinth]

Airhead take holy

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monki-fish-monki-go-fishing-monkey-fish-beach-gif-27110254

[radiant hound]

no thanks. just do it in a sentence

[devout grail]

Just spread the word

Day 16 without High Roller…

Squire Royale genuinely feels like I’m playing the “lite” version of the game now.

You run past these giant unused boss modules in Ruins and Crypts like the devs forgot to remove them after the apocalypse, while every match turns into default kit PvP speed dating.

Meanwhile all my extracted gear just sits in stash aging like fine wine because there’s nowhere meaningful to actually use it anymore.

And if I want a real boss encounter now, I basically need to survive an entire trilogy of PvP suffering just to maybe earn the privilege of seeing one in Inferno.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and the game can stop feeling like a demo with extra footsteps.

[radiant hound]

Hey there! I totally get why you’d love to get the High‑Roller back, but we can’t just turn off TPM, Secure Boot, or HVCI. Those protections are there to keep the game—and your system—safe from cheats and malware, and disabling them would create a huge security hole for everyone. On top of that, modern consoles and PC launchers simply won’t let a title run without those safeguards enabled, so the game wouldn’t even start if we tried to bypass them. Even if we could, the High‑Roller content is controlled on the server side, not by your local security settings, so flipping those switches won’t magically bring back the missing bosses or loot. Finally, making an exception like this would set a risky precedent; we’d start getting a flood of similar requests and it would break the overall safety model of the platform. The best way forward is to file a bug report or feature request through the official channels so the developers can investigate the missing content without compromising security. Hope that clears things up! 🙏

[burnt turtle]

Day 16 of being poor**

[wispy mason]

Poorgang

[crisp plinth]

cringe wall of text copypasta

[radiant hound]

technically its been poor for over 10 years since he doesnt have tpm

[burnt turtle]

Year 10 of being poor **

[hushed kindle]

Just hit a druid with 4 rapier head shots 3x throwing knives 2x rupture 2x sneak attack and he lived with 65 hp, but its super balanced.

[sonic heart]

meh

[burnt turtle]

Druid is worst class in game. Literally a skill issue

[devout grail]

It literally didn't fix the underlying issue... I never once died to aimbot but esp was always and still is the issue. They sit and wait for you to be low or kill a boss and ambush you

[carmine void]

I just want to fish in the dungeons with my boys…. Slowly losing hope here chat.

[radiant hound]

IT did work. you must be wrong.

[burnt turtle]

Skill issue

[verbal pond]

yee poorgang... iam halfway done saving for a new pc... but i was also halfway done a few month ago before ram prices skyrocketed xD

[crisp plinth]

Guess what. People do this without esp. lmao

[devout grail]

Say it with me... they still can esp and cheat.

[bleak isle]

security can always be broken, no matter what. security is man made, so man can also break that security

[burnt turtle]

Say it with me. Skill issue

[radiant hound]

even if thats true does that mean we should take away all the tools of the devs to stop cheaters? are YOU the cheater?

[crisp plinth]

Bonk and reaper with the 100000iq takes

[wispy mason]

Forgot to buy meds this kit is gonna be gone

[burnt turtle]

skillissue

[carmine void]

I literally only open this game to queue maelstrom so that I can swim around with the fish for ten min. Shits getting redundant and boring. I want to be able to catch them one day. Not just swim with them…

[bleak isle]

all this did was make the people who can actually develop good cheats more profitable, and put the skids out of business. it did nothing

[devout grail]

You're not wrong but esp is what's really killing the game.

[burnt turtle]

[pure wigeon]

help me my RAT FORM is PREGNANT 🫃 IRONMACE patch the PREGNANT rat form to stop his big FURRY BELLY from dragging on the CRYPT FLOOR🫃

[burnt turtle]

🐀

[crisp plinth]

You literally have not played HR since the new requirements. You have no idea how the changes have affected cheating

[burnt turtle]

✋ 🐀

[devout grail]

Yes that's what we should do, make an actual anti cheat and not punish people with incompatible hardware

[bleak isle]

last time i looked at this game i thought esp only works in the adjacent rooms

like you cant cross map ESP someone

[crisp plinth]

Most new anticheats require these things

[radiant hound]

or hear me out. let them cook. or even better. you go fix it

[burnt turtle]

The insufferable DaD community is mad again, but theyre gonna continue to play 8 hours a day because the game is bad.

🫃

[radiant hound]

DaD so bad people who havent played for years come back into chat just to tell us for hours how bad and wrong we are to play the game.

[devout grail]

It's fine... it's not like my only free time is wasted because I can't enjoy the game I spent hundreds on...

[burnt turtle]

[molten iris]

bro im retired

[radiant hound]

the real problem is the cheaters. be mad at them since esp is killing the game. why arent you hunting them down?

[burnt turtle]

🗣️ 🥒

[obtuse valley]

It's bad. I don't see +10 all att druid buff

[bleak isle]

solution: give everyone ESP

ill take my 10% royalties for the idea thank you

[white plume]

how do i move my account from blacksmith to steam?

[burnt turtle]

You cant

[warped hamlet]

You buy items and gold online 😂

[burnt turtle]

The window is over

[radiant hound]

@bonk can you help... HIM? the one who needs the hypervisor bypass. since you are the expert.

[white plume]

?

[bleak isle]

who needs the bypass

[devout grail]

Finally we agree... but say it with me now... esp cheaters still can cheat... but now I'm being punished

[radiant hound]

oh you know the one

[burnt turtle]

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

At this point Squire Royale feels like HR after budget cuts.

The giant boss modules are still scattered around Ruins and Crypts like abandoned film sets, except now the only thing living in them is disappointment and the occasional trio waiting to cave my skull in.

Meanwhile I keep extracting gear that immediately loses all purpose because next match I’m back in default kit fighting for my life over a grey arming sword.

And if I actually want to experience PvE now, I basically have to survive enough PvP to earn a passport to Inferno first.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and I can stop playing medieval battle royale internship mode.

[radiant hound]

ohhhh. no you arent being punished you can still play the game

[burnt turtle]

[dreamy belfry]

if you die in pve mode can you rebuy kit? was just damage testing and some lovely person decided to pull a golem on me while i was afk

[devout grail]

If I want the endless loop of pointless gear

[white plume]

no fr it's impossible? It run like shit on blacksmith

[bleak isle]

damn reaper makes me jealous i havent been so attached to a game for years

[burnt turtle]

"Mom my fart is all over the floor"

[devout grail]

It's a drug... don't get hooked

[radiant hound]

look buddy. People arent born with a purpose. People make their own purpose. If your purpose is to collect gear you are too poor to use. then go ahead.

[burnt turtle]

They announced the window when they opened up on steam. You cannot transfer anymore, for about 2 years now.

[white plume]

damnit

[burnt turtle]

@tough raven sit down john

[radiant hound]

two masculine men staring each other down. Swords raised in the parry stance. Oh the tension!

[white plume]

there is no way i can transfer my account? It run really bad on ironmace

[burnt turtle]

[bleak isle]

just buy a 2nd copy

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

Squire Royale has reached the point where it feels like I’m beta testing a spin-off mode instead of playing the actual game.

Ruins and Crypts still have all these massive unused boss modules sitting around like abandoned attractions at a theme park, while every match is just nonstop trio PvP and panic cardio.

Meanwhile my stash is overflowing with gear that has the practical value of collectible trading cards because there’s nowhere meaningful left to use any of it.

And if I want a real PvE encounter now, I basically need to fight my way through three layers of human aggression just to unlock it.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and the game can stop feeling like a side mode that escaped containment.

[white plume]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

BRUV

[radiant hound]

Hey there! I totally get why you’d love to get the High‑Roller back, but we can’t just turn off TPM, Secure Boot, or HVCI. Those protections are there to keep the game—and your system—safe from cheats and malware, and disabling them would create a huge security hole for everyone. On top of that, modern consoles and PC launchers simply won’t let a title run without those safeguards enabled, so the game wouldn’t even start if we tried to bypass them. Even if we could, the High‑Roller content is controlled on the server side, not by your local security settings, so flipping those switches won’t magically bring back the missing bosses or loot. Finally, making an exception like this would set a risky precedent; we’d start getting a flood of similar requests and it would break the overall safety model of the platform. The best way forward is to file a bug report or feature request through the official channels so the developers can investigate the missing content without compromising security. Hope that clears things up! 🙏

[burnt turtle]

Try opening a support ticket on the website, theyre actually pretty forgiving in there

They might let it throufh

[thick hinge]

gmae started updating mid boss fight imma crash i was in full biss

[white plume]

FR? Wow that's aweosome

[next mason]

I LOVE YOU PAUL 😩

[burnt turtle]

Pretty sure my buddy was able to do the transfer that way

[radiant hound]

YO anyone else notice anything weird with overdraw now?

[burnt turtle]

He hadn't logged in two years so he missed the prompt

[radiant hound]

is it possible to get your longsword hitbox to were you can parry a spider?

[next mason]

People complaining don't know how to use their computers and its hilarious. I figured mine out in 5 minutes with a simple search.

[white plume]

yo, just for knowing, i got the legendary status with the epic game thing. It is normal that it sign me free to play?

[radiant hound]

its true. its not hard. it can be scary because BIOS but as many have pointed out not very much can go wrong for this one. unless you are bitlocker encrypted

[fervent spade]

Ye i got kicked when it started and lost my kit lol gg

[bleak isle]

trusting microsoft with ur encryption keys, u deserve to be bricked

[burnt turtle]

Yeah steam is free, legendary is 30$

[radiant hound]

ok brother now you speaking sense

[bleak isle]

speak of the devil:

New Windows BitLocker Zero-Day Bypasses Drive Encryption

9 hours ago 😭

[radiant hound]

holy shit

and just like that all the spammers went away

[waxen garnet]

everytime im fighting the wyvern and i try and do the strat where i go close to him he keeps jumping at me does anyone know why?

[carmine void]

Where do I go to open a fish ticket?

[sterile moth]

can i do anything with ultimate gems other than sell them?

[rich barn]

Wait till he stomps then get all up in his grill

[white plume]

I mean, i got the game from epic game store(they gave free legendary status), then it got removed and i hopped on blacksmith for preserving my status. Can i move it on steam?

[waxen garnet]

yh i do but sometimes he does the lunge attack is there anyway to stop him from doing that?

[rich barn]

No not really. Just unlucky RNG or you’re too far from him

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

At this point Squire Royale feels like someone explained HR to me from memory and left out half the features.

Ruins and Crypts still have all the giant boss modules sitting there untouched like the world’s saddest tourist attractions, while every run devolves into trio PvP and emergency sprinting.

Meanwhile I’m extracting gear that immediately enters permanent retirement because next match I’m right back to default kit peasant combat.

And if I want actual PvE now, I basically need to complete a full-contact obstacle course of human suffering before the game finally lets me see any.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and I can stop playing the “condensed PvP edition” of Dark and Darker.

[candid trench]

hey guys it's been a while since i followed the court case for DaD, how's it looking? did ironmace win or what?

[slow canyon]

Woooo 10% soft spot reduction for halberd BIG CHANGES GUYS

[white plume]

what

[devout grail]

They lost but Nexon didn't get the game

[radiant hound]

Hey there! I totally get why you’d love to get the High‑Roller back, but we can’t just turn off TPM, Secure Boot, or HVCI. Those protections are there to keep the game—and your system—safe from cheats and malware, and disabling them would create a huge security hole for everyone. On top of that, modern consoles and PC launchers simply won’t let a title run without those safeguards enabled, so the game wouldn’t even start if we tried to bypass them. Even if we could, the High‑Roller content is controlled on the server side, not by your local security settings, so flipping those switches won’t magically bring back the missing bosses or loot. Finally, making an exception like this would set a risky precedent; we’d start getting a flood of similar requests and it would break the overall safety model of the platform. The best way forward is to file a bug report or feature request through the official channels so the developers can investigate the missing content without compromising security. Hope that clears things up! 🙏

[mild sage]

That’s a buff right?

[candid trench]

i guess they found a compromise or smth?

[devout grail]

And what do you think you're accomplishing by posting this?

[radiant hound]

yes

[swift coral]

same thing you accomplish by posting your thing

[devout grail]

They were ordered to pay about 4 million to Nexon

[candid trench]

cringe but if that's all they're gonna ask it's worth it

[devout grail]

Nah. Mines actually funny and points out the stupidity of the current state I'm stuck in. Gears worthless and there's no point to playing.

[latent iron]

Don't you love how last wipe they gave us arena with no mobs but then immediately put mobs back in after because everyone enjoyed it too much

[devout grail]

Nexon wanted more but this is what the court agreed to

[candid trench]

ofc they wanted more, why wouldn't they :')

[patent mica]

is colossus s artifact pool changed ?

[candid trench]

anyway thanks for the info mate

[devout grail]

Np

[devout grail]

#dnd-screenshots message this is the only thing I've seen so far. Idk how legit it is yet

[slate oasis]

lol if you try to go into goblin caves solo, the squire will ask you if you need help finding a party and if you click yes itll bring up the party screen and half the accounts are gold sellers adverts just sat in lobby

[latent iron]

Probably not one of the harder bosses because you genuinely need gear to clear it but give wyvern 10% artifact drop

I love how this game sucks sometimes

Why isn't it that all bosses have a 10% chance to drop

[sonic heart]

Bro my friend has a PC with an 8 year old motherboard and it supported TPM 2.0. I have helped multiple people through all of this now, its not rocket science or super new technology or niche tech-support knowledge
It's just that if you don't maintain or update your PC on a as-you-go basis, enabling these things require more steps than normally.

To enable TPM 2.0 for my friend we:

1. Disabled Trusted Gaming in the BIOS
2. Enabled fTPM in the BIOS.
   For secure boot:
3. Changed his drive's partition style from MBR to GPT usin a built in windows feature
4. Disabled CSM support in the BIOS.
5. restarted back into the BIOS and enabled Secure boot
   For HVCI:
6. We enabled SVM mode in the BIOS (Virtualization)
7. Enabled Memory Integrity by uninstalled drivers that are decades old and incompatible.
8. restarted the PC

These things are not new, it is standard for a lot of new windows PCs and will only become more normal since the point is to generally make your PC safer from malware. Which cheats for games often gets categorized as by windows, because of the low-level code injection performed, and the fact they are illegitimate products with no trusted providers.

2 of my friends went through this process with their gigabyte motherboards. Just update your PC bro.

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

At this point Squire Royale feels like the game is showing me a “what could have been” slideshow while I suffer.

Ruins and Crypts still have all the giant boss modules just sitting there like unused movie sets, completely empty, just waiting for something that never shows up anymore while I get speedrun’d by trios in the hallway.

Meanwhile I’m extracting gear that instantly gets archived in my stash like it’s entering witness protection, because next match I’m right back in default kit PvP chaos anyway.

And if I actually want real PvE now, I basically have to fight through enough players to earn a “permission slip” to Inferno first.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and the game can stop feeling like a highlight reel of things I’m not allowed to do.

[devout grail]

My PC is much older than 8 years. Tpm and hvci isn't possible. I'm not going to upgrade because that's irresponsible of me when my PC still plays the game fine besides this silly requirement that doesn't stop the only cheat that I've seen... esp

[bleak isle]

it doesnt stop any cheats

it just makes it harder to develop them

[sonic heart]

You can get a new motherboard for 45 bucks

[sonic heart]

Thats the point, making it more difficult to cheat.
Whats your point? That because maybe some mega nerd out there has found a way to bybass these security features, they should just let it be easy to cheat in DaD?

[fiery edge]

does luck effect drops when a mob is killed by you or opended by you

[devout grail]

And the cpu? Ram?

[sonic heart]

opened

[bleak isle]

my point is literally this achieves nothing lol

[rich barn]

I thought it was killed not opened

That’s why everyone is always trying to get last hit on boss with high luck

[devout grail]

W knowledgeable man

[slate oasis]

am i doign soemthing wrong, im in full squire plate and die pretty fast even to a rondel just now but when im fighting other plates they dont die so fast lol

[sonic heart]

It does, you said it in your message "it just makes it harder to develop them"

[bleak isle]

yes, harder, not impossible lol

[sonic heart]

Cheat and anti-cheat is an arms race

[bleak isle]

by harder i dont mean 1 single dude is gonna make them, the cheat community will not change

[rich barn]

@slate oasis he could have been running weak point and also hitting headshots helps

[bleak isle]

they will just improvise and adapt

[slate oasis]

bard no shriek

[bleak isle]

like they do, every time

[devout grail]

Just because it's harder doesn't mean it won't happen... drugs are illegal and people still find a way right?

[rich barn]

Maybe he was hacking

[trim pumice]

Lowkey this is an SDF ahh patch 😭🙏🥀

[still flame]

2 week delay for a new elo number is SICK

*The Solo/Duo queue still means the Arena is fought as a 3vs3 battle, but only solo and duo parties will be able to join the random matchmaking queue. *

[sonic heart]

Thats a horrible argument. Just because malicious actor continue to develop doesn't mean you should give up on trying to stop them.
Imagine how f'ed you'd be on the internet if we went about it like that with IT-security.

[slate oasis]

ah damn i was excited for 2v2

[bleak isle]

i mean being infected vs someone aimbotting you in a game is 2 completely different things lol

[still flame]

same brother they tricked us

[sonic heart]

Sure, but IM is just adapting and using features that are built in windows.
They are adapting, just like those who develop cheats.

[bleak isle]

idk call it what you want, but im not a massive fan about having companies create in house anticheat software thats kernel level, giving them full access to my pc. privacy is an issue enough as it is

[real goblet]

my halberd my life

[devout grail]

Day 16 without High Roller…

Squire Royale has officially become a guided tour of disappointment.

Ruins and Crypts still have their giant boss modules just sitting there like theme park rides that got shut down mid-season. You walk in expecting content and just get silence… plus the distant sound of a trio already rotating your position.

Meanwhile I’m extracting gear that immediately gets put into my stash like:
“Thank you for your service, you will never be deployed.”

Because next match? Right back to default kit PvP chaos simulator.

And if I want real PvE now, I basically need to survive enough human encounters to earn access to Inferno like it’s a restricted zone.

Please revert the TPM / Secure Boot / HVCI change so HR can come back and the game can stop teasing me with unused boss modules every match.

[sonic heart]

Its not IM that made it lmao. Its Microsoft, they own your OS bro

[rich barn]

Such a mid ass copy pasta

[real goblet]

wins 11 bro

[bleak isle]

ironmace didnt make their own anticheat software?

its not in house?

are u sure about that

[dim raptor]

No. Its Riot games anti cheat

[sonic heart]

HVCI, Secure Boot, and TPM has nothing to do with IM's anti-cheat you dunce

[bleak isle]

the projection

[devout grail]

They don't know what they're talking about. Uneducated chatters

[bleak isle]

itt: dude who has no idea what hes talking about calls someone who knows what they're talking about a dunce

[devout grail]

Fr

[sonic heart]

But having them these new things a requirement makes less cheats available
IM had their anticheat in place before these became a requirement.

[devout grail]

And neither accomplished anything

[sonic heart]

I have worked as a software developer for many years and work in information security.

But i am done with you two lmao. I am gonna go eat dinner.

[bleak isle]

okay, but its still kernel level, which was my point in the first place

[proven pasture]

most funny thing is that both hvci and driver sign check are bypassable even without drivers

[bleak isle]

what ive been saying from the beginning

but these guys coping lol

[radiant hound]

nooo i was distracted. im sorry you had to deal with them.

[devout grail]

Hey now... he's a developer and works in information security... he knows a thing or two

[bleak isle]

he knows how to create a for loop in python, dont mess with him

[radiant hound]

Grok is he right?. grok says no.

[bleak isle]

bro probably has no idea what a pointer is

[radiant hound]

its that thing i go clicky clicky with duh

[devout grail]

He's probably already compromised his company

[proven pasture]

ull troll both if i explain and if i dont, so ill just ignore u then

[bleak isle]

i was referring to ziggi, ur good

[dusk basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[proven pasture]

ok then

[errant moss]

so i s demon overseer near impossible now?

[devout grail]

Never impossible

[proven pasture]

havent tried it since the patch but ive seen how trios kill him in like 2 minutes

so they just made another ghost king variation of farming

[radiant hound]

if it bleeds.... it can die.... if it can die... i CAN kill it

[undone scroll]

bosses are in squires so you sir are wrong

[proven pasture]

i might be alright with all these additional "security" measures if thered be no cheaters after that

[bleak isle]

agreed

[proven pasture]

but there are still, im pretty sure everyone still uses those old cheats from 2024

they didnt even change the offsets cuz inventory guy left

[radiant hound]

big disagree. this was a step forward in the fight against cheaters

[proven pasture]

you mean manual bans through reports?

[radiant hound]

no

[feral copper]

you really think these securties measures have done that much...

[wispy mason]

rogue is too squishy for me, i die to the damn pve

[radiant hound]

can you show me they havent?

[wispy mason]

i have learned to respect good rogue players now

[feral copper]

the countless cheaters ive gone against normally prove that

[radiant hound]

in HR?

[rich barn]

“Countless cheaters” so much cope

[bleak isle]

you can tell the clueless and innocent from the none innocent and not clueless

[proven pasture]

not countless tho yeah, but reach hacks from now and then are common

[feral copper]

the security measures havent done that much at all it probs took a few days to bypass it if they even got hit by it at all

[radiant hound]

im still waiting for a better answer than "do your own research" for how a hypervisor bypasses anything

[feral copper]

i havent seen reach hacks for a long time but esp is still rampant

[radiant hound]

do you have stats to prove this or is this just your feelings?

[cunning thistle]

Anyone elses overdraw bugged

[radiant hound]

YO

[feral copper]

why do i need stats... they didnt change the game they made us enable features like bro how dumb are you

[proven pasture]

i guess itd be better if they just paid EAC to use their ac

[radiant hound]

because you are making a claim that x did nothing. any claim that can be made without evidence can be dismised without evidence

[unreal garnet]

do you have stats to prove the "anticheat" did anything at all?

they were already using external hardware

[feral copper]

just play the game yourself im sure youll run into some

[bleak isle]

my point was to say its possible not to show the methodology

[radiant hound]

i can show you how the parts come together to make the game more secure.

[unreal garnet]

or are we just yipping for the sake of licking some sdf toes?

[radiant hound]

yes no one said they stopped 100% of cheats

[unreal garnet]

didnt even stop 10%

[feral copper]

the fact is the only ones they will have stopped are the ones that dont update anymore

[unreal garnet]

booted a solid 1k players from HR tho, W

[radiant hound]

no. i just want to argue with people who have a computer from before 2016

[radiant hound]

So your answer is they should take NO action unless it stops all cheats?

[pseudo knoll]

has anyone found new jewlery spots yet?

[swift coral]

source?

[feral copper]

only reason im stating this is because i want them to do more that will actually help

[radiant hound]

again. source?

[radiant hound]

yes i agree with you and i hope they continue to improve the system. or if they cant ill leave like evryone else.

[proven pasture]

trustmebro.com

[unreal garnet]

source that it stopped more than 10%? or.. again... are we just yipping to lick some sdf toe... @radiant hound

[feral copper]

its just the fact this new change has stopped more real players from playing the game than actual cheaters

[swift coral]

source to your claim that it didnt even stop 10%

[bleak isle]

"i can show you how the parts come together to make the game more secure."

DMA enters the building

[radiant hound]

no no YOU made the claim now you back it up. my claim is the system is an improvement and makes the game more secure.

[pulsar cove]

Source yours sources sources bro

[unreal garnet]

im just guessing based on the fact most of the cheaters probably already using external hardware, so it did nothing

[bleak isle]

eh dma is a pain to use, most are not using external hardware id say

[radiant hound]

ok. then the system stopped anyone who its not.

[bleak isle]

and expensive

[swift coral]

yeah so guessing isnt a real source, your previous statement should be disregarded

[bleak isle]

unless the methodology has changed for dma in the past year or so, you also need a 2nd pc

[unreal garnet]

yes the 15 ragehackers who already didnt care about their ability to play for more than the hour the one day they did

[pulsar cove]

I’m sourcing so hard right now 💦

[unreal garnet]

it should be highly regarded, actually

[swift coral]

this change rekt script kiddies, which are arguably more of what you'd typically see when actually facing a cheater

[radiant hound]

right but you agree thatthey stopped everyone who ISNT using external hardware

[bleak isle]

no, thats not true either

[radiant hound]

even if thats like 1 cheater

[radiant hound]

shhhhh im working him here

[unreal garnet]

yes all 20 of them, .3% of the cheating population

[radiant hound]

ok so then WE AGREE

[bleak isle]

xd

[radiant hound]

the system made the game more secure. even if it was from ONLY 20 people.

my work here is done fam

[wispy mason]

got my first player kill with rogue, feels real nice.

[pulsar cove]

Ok now ban all the foreign teamers on NAW. or I’ll be forced to join their ranks.

[devout grail]

🥱 it didn't

[radiant hound]

congrats

[pulsar cove]

🇨🇳 #1

[wispy mason]

thanks. was more luck than skill tbh, i was fighting a halberd lock and his weapon hit the wall twice

[radiant hound]

ok. so your position is that the anti-cheat/secure options did not stop ANY cheaters?

[radiant hound]

luck is half the battle

[unreal garnet]

i mean if you agree that kicking 1k+ players out of HR in order to also kick out 20 cheaters, while ignoring most of the cheaters, then sure, we agree, i guess xD

[devout grail]

🤣 script kiddies. I never saw one

[feral copper]

stopped more real players than it has cheaters

[wispy mason]

gonna go to every raid with the feather amulet then

[unreal garnet]

most of the cheaters, actually. SeaTurtleman knows best

[radiant hound]

my claim is that he game is more secure.

[devout grail]

It didn't and it won't. They'll still cheat

[radiant hound]

but it did stop SOME cheaters/cheat options?

[dim raptor]

There will always be cheaters. No online game has none

[candid sand]

where are you guys getting these numbers from? its pretty naive to think there are only 20 cheaters lol i my self have gotten back around 100 cards from reports ive made since they started taking reports.

[unreal garnet]

in the way shoving a boulder infront of a doorway "secures" that doorway, yes

[radiant hound]

are you the type of guy who only does something if its 100% effective?

[unreal garnet]

completely unrelated to the new anticheat

[devout grail]

Might be why I have a kid

[radiant hound]

just a random number to prove a point. it could be 1 cheater. but i think we agree its more

[swift coral]

it would be the DMA users who are more in the minority, people with external hardware.
I'd say it's pretty disingenuous to assert that cheaters using DMA methods with external hardware out-populate script kiddies using entry level easily accessible software.
can easily assume that entry level is far more population dense than the 'high end' of hardware cheating

[candid sand]

its really not, its plainly stating that anyone here trying to claim there not enough cheaters to merit a better anti-cheat is delusional.

[radiant hound]

i litterally dont understand this comment

[devout grail]

But no, I'm against punishing people who've spent hundreds of dollars on your game to stop a handful of "cheaters" especially the ones that weren't the problem

[strange cipher]

dma expensive 😔

[unreal garnet]

in terms of acutal hours spent towards setting up and using cheats? not at all

[candid sand]

should have spent $100s on dollars on a new pc i guess 😉

[swift coral]

i think it's wild that people here are trying to say that the entry level cheating are actually the smaller cheater population

[radiant hound]

ok im arguing this secure options update was a stop along the way to the destination that is a secure game

[dim raptor]

I do think there are less for sure. I have only come across one cheater this season that was obvious.

[swift coral]

the hours of an individual cheater have nothing to do with it lol

[unreal garnet]

oh yea we defintetly do need a better anticheat

[civic hearth]

is it even possible to drop the mimic tooth ?

[radiant hound]

but you agree cheaters are being stopped

[hallow void]

did cleric get its damage buffed?

[devout grail]

And how many of these "entry level" have I seen? None. How many on streams? None. How many esp? A lot

[radiant hound]

yes

[devout grail]

No I don't

[dim raptor]

Go PVE, got mine on 4th mimic kill

[unreal garnet]

no but just becasue a lot of randoms may have tried to download some script kiddie shit, that doesnt mean the anticheat is actually doing good, useful work. like the farmers still be farming LOL

[swift coral]

oh right, because you havent seen any, they dont exist, miss me with that bro
ESP is entry level too bro, its the delivery method that makes things more or less entry level, this change addressed the entry level ESP.

DMA is a different story

[radiant hound]

ok so you are of the opinion that these options have not stopped any cheaters. not even one?

[swift coral]

they are still an individual, in a conversation about population
if you're talking about a majority, you cant ignore that

[devout grail]

It's not expensive if you are using it to make money

[visual solstice]

did update earlier just restarted and need to do another did one drop in the last 20mins?

[radiant hound]

says the guy with a 10+ year old computer and blaims his kid

[devout grail]

Blames my kid? Nah I'm just responsible and not going to upgrade over this. My PC still runs

[steel ice]

i havent played in a while whats the pop?

[candid sand]

its got to be infuriating that not only can cheaters afford better pcs than most reg players but they can also afford a 2nd pc to run dma.

[radiant hound]

people angry. halbert. halbert. halbert. halbert. send help.

[steel ice]

i mean thats ok but how many people are playing, dont really wanna come back for apty lobbies again

[radiant hound]

allegedly

[radiant hound]

check steam community page

[devout grail]

I'll stand on what I said. This isn't stopping the real problem. It's hurting the players more than anything

[visual solstice]

dropped screenshot i took

[devout grail]

Allegedly what? Speak up

[daring agate]

i think a good amount of people are playing

[radiant hound]

that your computer works.

[fallen wraith]

I mean secure boot is old games been enforcing it and it’s never made a difference for other games other than initially

[swift coral]

what a lot of people gloss over in regard to cheating incentive, especially with real money incentive.
If a game becomes too much of a headache, or less profitable, a real money trader will simply move to a game with better profit margins.

I'm not saying this has happened completely or anything, however, there are probably more than a few people who instead of buying a bunch of hardware and new subscriptions just to try make $ in dark and darker, they will just move to a different game.

[devout grail]

It's pretty dead

[candid sand]

the pop is, 80% of the player base is running around in plate with polearms so the last patch had to make sure it nerfed armor pen so 80% of the player base can continue to run around with plate and polearms 😉

[woven star]

lol its not dead

[devout grail]

No it is

[radiant hound]

@steel ice 10,095 online

[steel ice]

map still on rotation?

[radiant hound]

no you pick your map

[swift coral]

I'm not particularly concerned with your opinion on the matter, you're making baseless assumptions with zero source or proof to assert what it has and hasnt stopped, no point discussing what neither of us know for sure.

[daring agate]

no its not?

[visual solstice]

Nope

[proven pasture]

i liked it better when it was single map in rotation, like u had to wait 10 minutes to play another map, and with 20k online this shit was slapping, it was like hungry games

[meager steppe]

Horrible inefficient devs need two weeks to make a matchmaking type change lmfao now we get to play less than 10 days of arena this wipe woohoo

[radiant hound]

Reaper cant confirm esp is gone because he cant play HR think about it

[steel ice]

ty guys:D

[swift coral]

games been trending up in population for the first time in forever, its not dead
broke a multi year long downtrend lol

[radiant hound]

see you in the dungeons

[scenic dawn]

game keeps terminating abnormally

[radiant hound]

so happy to see we almost at peak player count ALL the time again

[candid sand]

reset your net

[sturdy island]

You better take “vibin” out of your discord profile with that attitude buddy

[visual solstice]

try verifying files, hope it helps

[unreal garnet]

wym? bro did a basic observation. thats as "vibing" as you can get. "look at that cloud" type shit

[devout grail]

I don't have access to the information. But we all know this doesn't stop DMA and we all know just because this company doesn't want to spend the time, doesn't mean that company won't. Cheats will always exist if there's a demand. If someone can make money off of something, they'll find a way to cheat. Get rid of market? No more rmt? Problem solved

[proven pasture]

if verifying files doesnt help test ur ram with memtest86+, ive had some issues cuz of my ram stick

replacing it helped in some games

[radiant hound]

doesnt stop DMA but does stop.. what 😄

other cheats!

[visual solstice]

you have intel on wipe?

[devout grail]

No it doesn't

[devout grail]

It stopped lazy coders who wanted ez money

[radiant hound]

how would you know?

[swift coral]

"I don't have access to the information. But"
That's about where I stop reading man, already said I'm not concerned with your opinion on the matter, respectfully, there's no point continuing to argue

[daring agate]

so it stopped cheats?

[slender moth]

does aegis stop lich orb

[devout grail]

Block me. I'm not interested in a "retired wardens" response when they get shut down

[unreal garnet]

ye, like 5 people

[devout grail]

No it didn't

[sturdy island]

This dude is angry copy pasting the same thing into multiple channels that vibe seems off dawg

[unreal garnet]

booted like 1k+ legit players, W

[swift coral]

I'm good, i'm just letting you know, any further long winded argument after I've said im not concerned, will just be ignored.

[devout grail]

Thank God. One less I have to listen to

[drifting scaffold]

you’re next

[swift coral]

brotha you replied to something addressed to someone else, you chose to do that 😭

[unreal garnet]

bro pasted it into tavern and game discussion, 1 time each 🤣 most normal thing ive ever seen, and again, the statment itself is a basic observable fact

[daring agate]

you just said that it stopped lazy coders making lazy cheats, so it stopped atleast some cheats right?

[proven pasture]

this doesnt stop neither lazy nor incompetent coders, cuz it costed like 100$ to sign ur code with stolen/registered on burner company certificate few years ago

[bleak isle]

i mean this is a moot point

[proven pasture]

didnt check the price since then

[devout grail]

I'm worried about you

[radiant hound]

whoa there buddy you cant catch him in a logical contradiction that would mean... hes a..... TROLLLL

[sturdy island]

I think the devs are doing a good job and rushing leads to poor work, but if you take opinions as facts I don’t like your vibe either big dawg

[drifting scaffold]

those get invalidated pretty quickly these days

[devout grail]

Cheats that I haven't seen in years.

[swift coral]

#the-tavern message ?

[devout grail]

Fr

[candid sand]

the "cheating community" is going to work overtime to try and deter this change in the anti-cheat system. from all of the banter ive been seeing, i guess its working 😉

[bleak isle]

you can switch from owner authoritative to server authoritative in netcode (dnd has always been server, not saying dnd was ever owner authoritative) and this will stop some cheats

[drifting scaffold]

game is server authoritative already

[bleak isle]

did you read the first 5 words lmao

[drifting scaffold]

sorry

middle 5 words, im still sorry 😞

[unreal garnet]

How IM be dancing on the games grave

[bleak isle]

its ok i forgive you

[drifting scaffold]

🫂

[devout grail]

o7 turtle man. Good luck with your existence

[swift coral]

many changes over the games timeline have transitioned certain things into being server authoritative, when they were previously owner authoritative and easily exploitable

[swift coral]

Righto mate

[bleak isle]

i was just showing that this is a moot point

[swift coral]

back in early days, those cheats were not detected, but nowadays instant detection if attempted

[visual solstice]

guys is a dent not even worth responding

[swift coral]

eh no comment

[proven pasture]

theres currently no way to compare server-client game world in runtime without making it backtrack every second

so they only gotta make a working ac

[swift coral]

i dont think anyone suggested that

[proven pasture]

never got it, why game companies even bother with cheaters, there are already done solutions like eac or battleeye

they do their stuff relatively good

just pay them a bit

[swift coral]

those are both easily bypassable, its very trivial

[fallen wraith]

No one would be cheating with eac on a game like dark

[proven pasture]

not like we are impenetrable now tho

[floral steeple]

inhouse anticheat will usually be better tbh

[swift coral]

also i heard someone claim that tavern is a custom free version of EAC, but idk if there's merit to the claim

[bleak isle]

inb4 they're just running nulled eac /s

[winter flume]

where can we found artefact ?

[swift coral]

why pay for some anticheat that can be easily bypassed by using whitelisted certs
when you could make your own inhouse one for free that does the same, save the money

[proven pasture]

who wants to cheat will find their way to cheat, there are many ways to bypass whatever u want, even chipped RAM sticks

its just about making it not profitable for cheat makers

[bleak isle]

security is an illusion

all it takes is weaponized tism and its ggs

[visual solstice]

gold piles behind key doors and bosses in HR

[winter flume]

ty

[swift coral]

ye but coming in and saying what IM should do and right away suggesting that they should use EAC or Battleye explicitly shows that you shouldnt be giving advice on the matter, imo

[bleak isle]

based on what lmao

[winter flume]

rusted key door can ?

[proven pasture]

im not tho, idc about what anticheat they will use for as long as its in user mode

[swift coral]

because the assertion is that it's any more secure than what IM is currently doing, as if it doesnt have all the same holes

[visual solstice]

Yes it can HR though

[winter flume]

need luck or you can with 0 ?

[swift coral]

battleye & EAC are kernel

[bleak isle]

sources?

[fallen wraith]

The anticheat is already not usermode

[bleak isle]

you seem to be the one who asks for sources 24/7, please show me sources

[fallen wraith]

Tavern is kernel

[bleak isle]

or are you yapping

[proven pasture]

ive not installed any drivers from tavern idk

[swift coral]

I can provide some in DM's but cant post here

[fallen wraith]

Search tavern

[visual solstice]

also squire royal can but much harder with circle ofc you dont need luck but ofc it increases chances

[swift coral]

every anticheat mentioned so far is kernel level

[fallen wraith]

Find the folder you’ll see a .sys file

[proven pasture]

battleeye yes eac as i remember no, mb they changed it

[fallen wraith]

It is kernel

[swift coral]

u suggesting they should swap a kernel level anticheat for another kernel level anticheat

further exercises the point i tried to make

[winter flume]

Ok thank's for answers !

[fallen wraith]

Not all kernel level anticheats are the same you sound dumb, just like apex eac is not the same as rust eac, rust has the daddy version of eac

[proven pasture]

i didnt know it was kernel in the first place

[visual solstice]

No problem, goodluck!

[proven pasture]

now i know and i delete it

[swift coral]

based

[bleak isle]

swap a kernel anticheat that has 10,000s of man hours and is a dedicated anticheat company, for an in house anticheat?

what point are u making here lol

[placid stratus]

I just lost a kit cause my immortal lament didnt work wtf

[fallen wraith]

Also, I’ve ran into my fair share of cheaters, unless your hide rogue I feel like it’s still super easy to kill cheaters

[swift coral]

I already made the point like multiple messages ago, & it wasnt entirely serious.
I said why pay money for something that is easily bypassed, when you can just make your own thing that is easily bypassed.

[bleak isle]

do u think development is free or something

wtf lol

[fallen wraith]

Yeah tavern wasn’t free lol

Eac would of been cheaper I bet

[sonic heart]

Damn that kid is still yapping?

[swift coral]

no, i didnt say that bro

[radiant hound]

heres a question. @bleak isle why develop something in house? ever?

[fallen wraith]

Eac is free, if you want a good version you gotta pay, I can almost guarantee free eac would be better than tavern

[bleak isle]

i mean it all comes down to whether its worth it or not, time is money

[proven pasture]

would you rather pay barista to make him a coffee with arabica beans, or would you make it yourself for bigger price with a nescafe

[unreal garnet]

thats the Ironmace question. Why would or should they? Everything they need is on Fab

[proven pasture]

but at least it's made by you

[fallen wraith]

But I think people are coping with the cheater problem, I don’t think cheaters are a big deal in this game

[bleak isle]

for example, you can build your own 3d game engine in SDL + opengl with c++, but its going to take you thousands of hours just to develop it. but it would be in-house. and thats before you even make the game

[swift coral]

someone said Tavern is a custom version of the free EAC anticheat, but i am unsure of that, wouldnt be surprised tho

[bleak isle]

...or you can just use unity and unreal, and skip that 5k+ hours

[fallen wraith]

Eac isn’t open source

U can’t have a custom version

[random anchor]

-wake up
-open discord
-check announcements
-see no mention of Reverting secruity settings
-cry
-log off

[fallen wraith]

Unless you partner / pay with eac and they make it custom

[exotic seal]

compatibility, control, less reliance on someone else when something goes wrong

[swift coral]

yea idk then, was just something someone in here said one time

[fallen wraith]

If u could have custom versions of eac free eac would stay bypassed for ever

[keen mortar]

I am so sad that the arena was postponed...

[proven pasture]

also its cursed when game companies enforce anticheat on you, e.g. in unturned you choose whether you want to run it with battleye or without, and if you choose not to use AC you just won't be able to lon onto servers that require it

[bleak isle]

a good example i like to use is gta 3, gta 3 could easily of been made by 1 person with enough time, hell any game can be made by 1 person with enough time and talent. but by the time that person has made gta3, EVERYTHING would be dated. we'd be at 360 era while that solo dev is tryna push a ps2 quality game. because you can make it urself doesnt make it the better choice

[proven pasture]

same here would be so good, like you can't play HR without AC on, but normals is ok

[fallen wraith]

Why do u care about running an anticheat?

You really think they are farming your data? Lmao

[proven pasture]

it's the same as saying i don't care if somebody reads my DMs, cuz i have nothing to hide

[frosty wharf]

Has playercount died yet since arena was pushed back?

[proven pasture]

it's just a right to privacy,

[keen mortar]

i was so ready for arena xD

[fallen wraith]

It’s just not though, you want the cheater problem fixed, but also complain about privacy, who do you think is more likely to invade your privacy, battleye and eac or tavern? Because I can guarantee you battleye and eac are not going to want a lawsuit

[proven pasture]

and i dont care if they actually collect anything or dont, because this shit on PC is literally me leaving my house door open

[swift coral]

seems like paul was pretty much solely spearheading the inhouse development of tavern, no support member had context in regard to it, and it took him noticing there was a false banwave to address and fix it, at the time, it seemed like he was the only guy at the company that understood what tavern is, support just trained to read the traces it gives to them, even then support cant understand the traces because they dont understand the anticheat.

[frosty wharf]

saw the timer said 14 days, so thatll be when i next open the game, whoever at ironmace decided to remove arena for half the wipe needs to be fired (from a cannon) into space.

[drifting scaffold]

gm bud 🫂

[visual solstice]

just put the kit on squire and pvp in dugeons

[proven pasture]

eac and battleye are just examples, just pay someone that does it better is what i meant

[exotic seal]

gm bud 🫂

[proven pasture]

and yes there are ways to do an anticheat without kernel privileges

check VACnet

[fallen wraith]

There is no way to do a good anticheat without kernel

[bleak isle]

i mean im with u btr but vac is a terrible example man 😭

[fallen wraith]

Vacnet is worse than tavern

[timid harbor]

theres no shot you think vac is a good anti cheat LMAO

[proven pasture]

VAC is worse, VACnet is not

[fallen wraith]

There are free cheats that work fine on cs2 btw

Vacnet is serverside anticheat

[proven pasture]

these are not the same things

[fringe slate]

just me or the fucking fps is so low in some modes

[proven pasture]

yes

[fallen wraith]

Completely different than a real anticheat

[proven pasture]

they just check whatever data u send and analyze it

[fallen wraith]

What is a serverside anticheat going to detect in dark? Seriously

[proven pasture]

its a better way to deal with them

[fallen wraith]

Please explain one thing cheaters are doing that isn’t just esp

[keen mortar]

i have extra gear for normals and high roller but my arena gear is to expensiv to run in normals ore HR

[fallen wraith]

That a serverside anticheat can detect

[bleak isle]

my friend has been cheating on deadlock since released and still not banned, full m1 gameplay, constant aimbot

same account this entire time

[proven pasture]

can't detect ESP, but can detect fast shooting, reach hacking, backtracking, aimbot

and much more

[fallen wraith]

Reach is insta ban serverside now

Backtrack insta ban serverside

[proven pasture]

at least they made that

[fallen wraith]

Fast swinging indtavan serverside

Aimbot useless in dark id assume

[bold lichen]

Rogue needs a nerf

[fallen wraith]

Fuck are u aimbotting in dark

[proven pasture]

[timid harbor]

100% headshots lmao

[fallen wraith]

On what weapons?

[bleak isle]

crossbow n shit

[proven pasture]

id see you survive against a ranger that will 100% headshot you from arena spawn

[timid harbor]

bows cross bows halbred, bardiche

[visual solstice]

no i mean put away the arena kit for now squire set 3 is my dedicated arena slot i feel ya but for now one can do pvp in dungeons

[fallen wraith]

Ranged weapons have slowest projectiles

Of any game

You really think aimbot is going to be consistent / any good?

[timid harbor]

lmao theres perks to change that

[bleak isle]

yes

[fallen wraith]

I’d love to see it maybe your right I doubt it

[proven pasture]

btw i dont think you are telling the truth now, because in any game backtracking is just packet loss abusing, i havent seen anybody including me getting banned for packet loss

[timid harbor]

youtube is your friend

[swift coral]

unfortunately yeah, trajectory calculation etc

any good one anyway, saw years ago, even the base level shit advertised that stuff

[tardy ibex]

Hey iron hammer, how come during equip my item it drops on the floor? and how come during open my inventory, I can't move? and how come during drag item, it ask me to split?

[proven pasture]

same for blink if there was blink function in any of dark and darker cheats

[sonic heart]

Press alt, its a bug.

[fallen wraith]

Stop bringing up Minecraft cheat features lmao

[keen mortar]

squire Royal is also pretty fun but i was soooo ready for arena xD

[radiant hound]

its an issue caused byalt tabbing try alt tabbing out nd back into the game

[fallen wraith]

Dark is serverside movement blink or backtrack will do nothing useful

[manic condor]

if you press alt individually while this is happening it fixes it.

[proven pasture]

it's same for other games, tarkov, rust and etc

any game with low server tps

[manic condor]

the game thinks you still have alt pressed down @tardy ibex

[visual solstice]

same woulda been interesting without some of the crafting items

[swift coral]

ngl bro might have a point, even if server authoritative, blink type stuff might work if the overall server TPS is dogwater

[bleak isle]

works on rust tbh well to an extent

[fallen wraith]

But like if blink was ever used or did work

[swift coral]

just within the margins of TPS

[fallen wraith]

You would notice people teleporting

[swift coral]

which would be pretty dogwater

[fallen wraith]

And they would be insta ban

[proven pasture]

dnd server takes whatever trash you send him, because they are aware of packet loss situation, i get teleported few meters away sometimes

[manic condor]

except rogue now has a perk where they tp

[proven pasture]

so there is 100% backtrack mechanism in their servers

[fallen wraith]

Yeah after they hit a knife

[swift coral]

idk about insta ban because you have normal players lagging and rubberbanding like crazy in matches, but maybe just not worth doing at all, due to risks and uselessness

[fallen wraith]

Yeah I’m not saying insta but

It wouldn’t last long

And while blinking your sitting still not dodging

[swift coral]

mm if you did it in presence of another player and copped a report could get snipped

[proven pasture]

i mean it doesnt only work for rollbacking position, at least unreal engine has ways to predict your movement to compensate for packet loss/high ping

and games use that

[swift coral]

i love unreal engine i definitely dont hate how trivialized cheating in unreal engine games is

unreal engine is awesome!

[fallen wraith]

But seriously cheaters have not been a problem for a long time in my opinion once all the rage features got detected worse they can do is esp or aimbot maybe

[manic condor]

esp is very strong in this game tbf

[proven pasture]

yeah i have not seen much animation canceling cheats for a long time

like i remember barbarians kill you before they even got their weapon out

[fallen wraith]

Yeah esp is strong for third partying I’m sure

But most people cheating are gonna be shit

[manic condor]

or just knowing where people are in the game

[proven pasture]

it has limited range tho

only your render distance

or less even

[manic condor]

ah ic

[tender lake]

anyone else get hit with an update jst now?

[fallen wraith]

Unless your hide rogue fighting a player with esp is not gonna make a difference

[manic condor]

tru

[fallen wraith]

Plus render distance is only a module length

[proven pasture]

hide rogues are a plague to the game anyways so i wish cheats kill them first time in the morning

[swift coral]

did rust ever actually get that occlusion culling idea working, where players out of sight would be de-rendered in effort to avoid ESP's seeing everyone?

[proven pasture]

same for every other invisibility type out there

[fallen wraith]

I think so

[vale anvil]

Don’t forget the entire security requirements that was added this season

[fallen wraith]

Ngl those security requirements ain’t changing shit

[swift coral]

if it works might be an interesting thing to look into.
IM is doing occlusion culling for audio with doors atm, afaik, dunno if it's the same type of tech though

[vale anvil]

Fell free to back that up, because I can: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/s/oGIxpijvKO

[proven pasture]

most esps don't care about rendered models, just their coords that server sends

[fallen wraith]

Software developer of 10+ years

Security requirements will stop a couple cheats for a month maybe

[proven pasture]

they just draw rectangles with a perspective change of its size

[vale anvil]

4 years here. But also know our fields aren’t exactly overlapping

[swift coral]

tru

another i love unreal engine moment

[fallen wraith]

Fields are definitely overlapping for me

Can show you anticheats both serverside and Clientside I’ve developed

[proven pasture]

its same for most games, they dont like running distance check every tick so they outsource it to the client

[swift coral]

i know UE isnt alone in having these drawbacks but UE packages it in a gift box for people to easily use

things like coords

[vale anvil]

And those have been in an environment were these measures were enforced?

[fallen wraith]

Yes

Wym

You mean secure boot? No

Or do you mean the anticheat actually being ran

[vale anvil]

I haven’t seen another game require memory integrity

[fallen wraith]

Memory integrity isn’t changing shit

[proven pasture]

faceit requires it i think

not sure

[fallen wraith]

Lemme rephrase because I sound dumb

Memory integrity and secure boot isn’t changing shit with how shit the anticheat already is

[vale anvil]

But alas, I know it’s possible, but not profitable according to the people on that side of the fence anyway ( if that Reddit post is to be believed)

[fallen wraith]

I mean do the research yourself, go find cheats online and see if they are up

I doubt many aren’t

[proven pasture]

what ever games have against cheats all that goes to trash if you just sign ur shit with EV

[vale anvil]

That was my research.

[fallen wraith]

Ev cert doesn’t work for p2cs

[vale anvil]

Feel free to read it

[fallen wraith]

It works for a singular or couple people

Not the majority of players that aren’t making their own cheat

[proven pasture]

whats that

[vale anvil]

That was not what the post was about either

[fallen wraith]

Once a ev cert is detected u spent hundreds signing a cert

[carmine void]

My fish numbers turned yellow

[warm fable]

🐟

[proven pasture]

well you dont need to sign malicious driver, you just have to make a legit one

with some backdoor or vuln

[fallen wraith]

It has to be signed

Secure boot

I’m sure there’s some way around it but

[somber rune]

Guys help there Is a skin of a demon with tongue out,seen Just One Person with It,how did they got It?its cool as f

[random anchor]

-wake up
-open discord
-check announcements
-see no mention of reverting security changes
-cry
-log off

[proven pasture]

efi modules

[fallen wraith]

Just another reason secure boot does nothing