the-tavern

[latent furnace]

I sohuldve gone for the ti though. Went overkill on the cpu instead.

[woven widget]

3rd wheel matching pfps when

[vale oar]

Just a water

[woven widget]

in a fancy glass?

[karmic reef]

guys, mystic gem still drops artifact? and if it drops, which artifacts?

[woven widget]

I dunno

[pliant gyro]

9

[timber orbit]

for well over a year now dude

[keen beacon]

@vale oar can i get clericgibon volcano combo in the chat

[potent elm]

is game playable yet?

[vale oar]

🌋

[warm fable]

❤️

[dreamy vine]

[quaint carbon]

@vale oar can you buff penguin?

[warm fable]

he can only transform into super monkey

[golden cedar]

nice game killing druid = body disapeared cant loot thx ironmace

[timber orbit]

@vale oartwo can you nerf chicken?

[atomic holly]

Anyone know anything new coming out next season?

[timber orbit]

i did not mean to ping our favorite gibbon a second time i was just trying to be funny

[warm fable]

Game Updates:

• From now on, multiple maps are 7x7 now
• Added new POI players naturally gravitate towards
• The Dark Swarm circle has been removed from the High Roller
• A new monsters has been added
• Expressman has been added to every dungeon
• Added new match ending mechanic in ice abyss
• Improved performance of all dungeons
• Quiver and backpack has been added
• Stash sort system has been added
• New artifact cape has been added
• New small artifact shield has been added
• New craft items have been added
• The Arena map pool has been updated with new maps
• This Season Arena item grade will be limited to SSF items

+60 new perks, skills, spells

[golden cedar]

how to loot invis druid body please

[timber orbit]

we know guild hall is likely, it’s also very likely changes will occur to encourage players to play the game more actively throughout the season (this has already been attempted with recurring things such as dailies and weeklies, and longer term goals in the form of gold sinks and time sinks, though it’s evidenced they may not be enough)

[timber orbit]

if you can’t see it it’s unlikely you’ll get to loot it unfortunately

[cosmic maple]

Go roughly 2 modules away from the body then come back so it will reload on your client

[timber orbit]

i completely forgot the bodies are client side. this is amazing advice

[lofty belfry]

anyone elses lobbies ghost town

[timber orbit]

you won’t find many people outside of squire to riches atm

[golden cedar]

oh thx 2 modules worked

[timber orbit]

W Dale

[golden cedar]

w dale

[neat mesa]

im solo on US east ruins, come hunt for me!

[warm fable]

what eats bees?
hornets?

[flint birch]

whos hole did this come from?

[grand drift]

👀 get him chat!

[warm fable]

sdf kitchen
chynkus
mini artifact contest
announcements
end season rewards

[flint birch]

is the "from:" working ?

[fervent sleet]

Where's the wipe news

[cursive basalt]

Anyone have the stingray egg? Willing to give everything in my stash for it

[cyan monolith]

his

[warm fable]

⛳

[rustic garnet]

what spells can i use with shapeshift mastery?

[cyan monolith]

big stretch btw

we not getting this

[warm fable]

Allows you to change Shapeshift form instantly, bypassing cast time entirely. In exchange, you can no longer cast Elemental Damage Types#Spirit spells.

Reading was invented around 3200 BCE

[cyan monolith]

reading was aroung way before then

[warm fable]

that's what google says

[flint birch]

look at the wiki for the type of each spell. i havent seen anywhere in game that actually differentiates the spells in normal terms

[warm fable]

early humans had to invent reading after writing 🧠

early humans had to invent hearing after talking

I think it was around patch 5 when this happened

[unreal garnet]

welp none of that in sdf kitchen or announcements. where did chyunkys say that? wtf is mini artifact conest? no nonthing you listed is in the end of season awards

[warm fable]

Earth devs were overworking themselves during that time.

[eager sand]

another day another lack of communication on the hardcore arena in 4 days

[unreal garnet]

"60+ new spells, perks" when in reality its one singular new wizard spell, ice missiles (reskinned magic missile that deals ice damage instead, doesnt work with ice mastery) 😂😂😂

[warm fable]

you don't know about mini artifact conest?
bro where have you been

[unreal garnet]

dont worry, fiction will be written for you

[unreal garnet]

considering youre the only person ive ever seen mention, im willing to bet its a 50/50 whether or not it exists. you did literally make up a bunch of other nonsense

[warm fable]

💯

[unreal garnet]

im confused.... they announced all this with the winner of the contest? or you assuming theyll use literally any of it?

[warm fable]

relax friend

Trust Vision

[unreal garnet]

hmm? just asking questions 🙂

oh, so everything you wrote is Fishu-bourne fiction? thought so, just making sure 🙂

[warm fable]

@vale oar If I got you in trouble im sorry

[unreal garnet]

how is he in trouble?

[warm fable]

bro is on the vacation

[latent gulch]

where did you hear about the +60 new perks, skills, spells, i havent been paying much attention to dad stuff lately

[unreal garnet]

he literally made it all up

[latent gulch]

figured, but i heard sfd a long time ago talking about adding a bunch of new wiz spells so i was hoping it wasnt bs lol

[unreal garnet]

"60+ new spells" when in reality its them maintaing the rate of .5 wiz spells/year theyve been going at with the singular new spell: arcane explosion (reskinned explosion that deals arcane damage instead)

[vale oar]

Huh who what

[unreal garnet]

like quivers, backpacks, 60+ new spells would be awesome. but given the track record theyve been at? not sure why we're writing fiction

[vale oar]

I'm afraid I can only write peak fiction with my long gibbon fingers

[unreal garnet]

its nothing, buddy is just making stuff up and saying he heard it from you. not a big deal 🙂

[warm fable]

#warlock message

[unreal garnet]

guys im so excited for the hardcore arena event! i can't wait to "see how far i can push with a hardcore limitation" or something... idk if that means anything but yeah!! leessssgooooo ❤️

[warm fable]

#warlock message

[weak bridge]

who drop DB?

[shrewd merlin]

So no progression systems? At least more abilities perks and spells is good for some variety, but I'm guessing it's going to be VERY imbalanced, and generally backfire if they're not quick and effective with balance.

I would've liked to see class re-designs with combat redesign, class/character development progression systems to unluck and customize all spells, perks, etc.

Maps need to have way clearer danger/reward... But for some reason HR has full nightmares on the first level basically... And the bosses on the first level are NOT worth the time and are WAY to hard for a level 1 boss. The level 2/3 bosses are miles easier than something like spectral knight. — They should also gear-lock the bosses through a gear-score like modifier so you can't just squire-kit boss farm... It kills the progression of the game if you can just squire kit warlock kill the ghostking/lich king or the wyvrnn...

[proud blaze]

wish i could socket vigor on my stinky stick irl

[placid tangle]

Guys what do u think about druid buff

[warm fable]

Druid gets new plague spell

[misty ridge]

:|

[placid tangle]

No

[misty ridge]

me when the information be mis.

[placid tangle]

He can transform into a monkey with bazooka

[warm fable]

prabably but without bazooka

[placid tangle]

No

[exotic seal]

owlbear form when

[placid tangle]

Bazooka wirh nuclear ammo

[exotic seal]

Panther dash into chicken jump into owlbear glide into rat

[placid tangle]

Who plays rat in 2026

[unreal garnet]

keep in mind he made up all of that

[unreal garnet]

helllllll yessss, skipping entire modules while switching between bear glide and rat would be bis

YO SDF, can i get a little bit of.... SAVING THE PLAYERBASE???#the-tavern message

[chrome veldt]

Druid stole my kuma

[warped lintel]

sounds like something you should tell to the skyrim guard

[shut kindle]

what is the best hat for pesti kit?

[crystal isle]

can an artifact spawn in the room for the key on HR Water map?

[shrewd merlin]

Those honestly seem believable to what we're actually going to get, except much less than 60 perks and abilities, more like 10 max.

DaD/IM doesn't understand what makes games fun at their core.

[vague adder]

When is smite nerf coming

Just lost limy last couple kits to fucking smite cleric

No reason why I’m getting 3 tapped when I’m at 65% pdr 28% med and 175hp

[prisma badger]

that sucks, sorry to hear
what kind of nerf do you personally think is needed from it?

base damage/lower scaling/longer CD/ or shorter duration?
or perhaps just Faithfulness perk slow is too much?

[exotic seal]

There is already a hitslow from being beaten with a mace, there shouldn't be a "holy" hitslow after that.

[prisma badger]

i get that, 15% for 1.5 kinda ensures follow-up strikes

[flint birch]

they dont seem made up. but until i see actual confirmation later this week, im assuming at least half of that list isnt coming

[surreal cove]

NA EAST GC Solos - Dude named GarzYT running down lobbies with Kumas with his wizard duo. Be aware.

[loud cipher]

hit slow needs to be debilitating otherwise it would be horrible

[flint birch]

imagine a knife with massive hit slow

[round stirrup]

Can't believe they're adding quiver in season 8. Finally

[loud cipher]

imagine not kiting buffs lmao trash

[flint birch]

?

when jesus is on too much wine and starts randomly insulting ppl

[unreal garnet]

where did they say this? ignore fishu

[shrewd merlin]

Even if they did all of it, it doesn't even dent the problem with the actual game, which is PvE replayability... It's just the same map with the same run every time. Progression systems, there's no clear progression, it's just from zero to BiS immediately if you can farm bosses. Bosses don't scale in difficutly based on floor, so you don't go, "let's master the first floor boss first then increase in difficutly as we get more gear", nah it's just rush down to whatever boss is best with no limits. Floors are all the same and don't have scaling loot and danger as you get closer to the center.

Red portals should require a sacrifice to open such as killing a certain amount of mobs and collecting souls to open it. Then have to clear the gate mini-boss or put the red behind the actual floor bosses so you have to beat a boss to advance.

That's not even getting into class design and character progression...

[loud cipher]

thats actually my bad i misread ur shit i thought you were complaining about smite.

[unreal garnet]

outside of a comment from Trollu, can anyone show me where they mentioned adding quivers/backpacks this season?

[loud cipher]

they arent

[flint birch]

at best. terry is in charge of quivers, so blame him if they arent in season 8

[dreamy vine]

Nobody needs quivers unless you want throwing knife and axe 🪓 purses too

[flint birch]

the "put reds behind bosses" sounds like a terrible idea. youll end up with either super congested boss rooms or no one going down floors.
I am hoping that they add at least a few new perks and skills to each class for more variety(i desperately want a crytsal sword perk for sroc), but i do agree that a supplementary system is needed alongside it.
PVE i dont know how they would solve, ppl seem allergic to pve at times, which also extends to bosses. Ive been surprised by the number of ppl in hr that just cant pve cause the avoided actually learning it by cheesing or running away and hiding.

[flint birch]

yes plz

[shrewd merlin]

Obviously some things that need to be implemented require a shift in gameplay design, for example, first floor bosses being much faster to kill, and opening the boss room requires that you have collected enough souls from the floor. Basically mob kills, chest opens, and elite kils, player kills (take their souls), etc. to have a isolation type effect on the boss, since if you're faster at pve and optimizing your clears and specing into PvE AoE, you can get there first. Among other things like once you start it locks out competitors until you either reset it or die.

Of course I'm sure if they had some good devs they could come up with something even more fleshed out that incentivizes the type of play they want without griefing.

Perhaps if you die or reset the boss it locks you out from the boss room for 30 seconds or something so another team can go, etc.

[neat frigate]

yes he is teaming

[warm fable]

old suggestion

[warm fable]

record it
send video to community coordinator

[flint birch]

ngl, not being able to intrude on ppl doing the boss sounds less exciting and will incentivize boss rushing becuase its the safest thing to do, which sounds wrong, the boss room should be the most dangerous place on the map while the boss is alive. The only way this may be still fun would be having the boss respawn ~45 seconds after being killed but no longer drop loot for that raid.

[mystic spindle]

was it hr?

[dreamy vine]

A spam enjoyer

[shrewd merlin]

If everyone is rushing it, there will be a lot of PvP in inner-most modules since they want the souls fast, and dont' want to compete with others for the boss. — It would be much more action packed than you think. If you don't issolate the boss, the boss becomes un-doable, and becomes a camp-fest game, waiting for others to start it. — It's the only way it works if you make the boss a core part of the game and advancing.

There would surely be a ton of fights or negotiations outside of the boss room.

[flint birch]

once youve learned them sure.

[flint birch]

why would there be pvp before hand in the innor most modules? wouldnt ppl just try to kill enough mobs quickly then beeline for the boss, then sit safe and cosy knowing no one can interrupt them

[edgy glen]

Some of the best and most crazy pvp fights I've seen or been in has been during a boss fight.

[unreal garnet]

yea my thing about quivers is that people think the question that needs to be answered is "where do i keep my 100+ arrows?" and not "why do i need 100+ arrows?"

[flint birch]

you can lose all of them if you go for castle and go down each floor. nevermind that if you wwant to boss with a bow/crossbow (which while not optimal should still be allowed) you might need the large supply of arrows

[shrewd merlin]

Remember, this is an alternative to just rushing down reds straight to end-game. Ideally this acts as an in-game progression rather than just running to end-game, wipe it out, then port out instantly. (which also ends up with BiS in 1 week into the wipe)

Instead the gameplay loop should be:

1. Progress first floor in some manner (i.e. soul collection)
2. Gear/progression test (boss chamber + PVE-focused stat such as "afinity" which increases with character level and gear score, which greatly effects how effective you are against higher-level mobs.)

• Ideally, you have to gear up 50-80% of the way with that floor's gear to be able to reasonably take on the boss, with 80-100% geared for that floor making the boss much easier (so if people suck they can just gear more to progress, but people who want a challenge can go in with only 50% to be quicker)

3. Same thing for the next layer, need to get 50-80% geared for that layer to be able to tackle the next boss and progress.

the idea here ISN'T to make PvP harder or unatural, it's focusing on making a coherent PvE progression and better PvE content, because that is the core of the game at the end of the day... You need great PvE, and the PvP can be tuned up or down where needed. But the game only grows if the PvE is super addictive and cool. — So it's WORTH PvPing over.

[warm fable]

too much work with some soul collection mechanic for iron mace

[flint birch]

need to decouple red from bosses then, cause on a basic level i fundamentally dont think bosses should be the safest room once you're in it. removing the threat of being ganked makes it too safe of an option if you arent going in with the "required" gear

[shrewd merlin]

That's all vanity content at the end of the day, they need to make the gameplay loop feel fresh and addictive... That means progression systems galor, mystery and discovery (fully random dungeons, events, rare module finds like a gold room with crazy loot, etc.), deep character and weapon/armor customization and talent trees/leveling, professions, etc.

Content depth > content width

[flint birch]

like half the things you listed there would need to have fog of war implemented again

[warm fable]

fog of war ❤️

[void anchor]

Give us double bosses on Crypts like Ruins and Goblin Caves. Both Warlord and Lich should be active at the same time. This would also add a middle loot room with gold ore and incentivize not rushing to Inferno.

[warm fable]

is ruyshing to inferno a problem

[flint birch]

it can make crypts stale

[void anchor]

I don't particularly stay in Crypts too long because I'd rather get the better loot in Inferno at this point in the game.

[slow ivy]

I tend to not stick around the crypts much if the modules I like are not there. I wouldn't call it rushing to inferno, but I definitely have no reason to wander a crypt that has nothing for me.

[shrewd merlin]

You've already went through the danger though, you've collected enough souls and went to the boss chamber which inherently requires risk. — Allowing PvP on bosses create a system that completely annihilates new players or even average players, it becomes the rich/elite players only doing bosses, because only they can fight someone off while doing the boss. I honestly don't think bosses work in this game and becomes "nothing" content because only 1% of players are able to do them... Even less can do them spontaneously, and even less can even practice them enough nowadays to even do them normally WITHOUT the threat of pvp...

This kind of setup leads to players quitting the second they try to boss... They're like this is way too much, way too annoying, no chance to learn it, etc. and they give up.

[shrewd merlin]

Decoupling from red would defeat the progression purpose of defeating the boss to go to the next layer.

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[warm fable]

I believe each red gate should be guarded by mobs or sub bosses or even bosses. so every stairs = Point Of interest

such mechanic already exist in ruins: kill Golem to open gates

make rogue landmine red gate camping harder

[unreal garnet]

the gates to what? fix gates so sorc and druid cant skip? put something behind gates? put gates in front of red?

[warm fable]

yea fix

[flint birch]

shouldnt need to do a boss to go down a floor though. also what d you do when the first team does the boss then just cmps the red, preventing other players from goingdown

[warm fable]

red gate = red stais = go lower 🧠

[flint birch]

this doesnt sound bad. just make the gate a solid steel door and its fine

[warm fable]

who cares
as long as there is no fog of war in the dungeon there is no dungeon crawling

[flint birch]

true

[warm fable]

maybe you heard about this
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/631753/bring-back-fog-of-war-but-better

created by big minds of this discord

[flint birch]

add FoW back, add a few modules to each map that allow you to interact with something to get a chunk of the nearby map revealed

hell make that thing pulse with magic that lets ppl know it had been used then put it on a timer

[shrewd merlin]

1. That's the whole point I'm making, just being able to red with no sort of limiting factor or progression-check to slow players from just running down naked to end-game bosses and extracting with artifacts in the first day of the wipe is just kind of dumb IMO. There needs to be a clear in-game progression. — This is where they could make their first-layer bosses a part of that progression and progression-checking.

2. All of those issues can be resolved with the right dev team... For example, you can give them 20 seconds to loot and get out or the ceiling collapses on them, then the boss respawns and the next team can kill it, etc. — Of course, the time to kill the boss should be much faster.

3. You can make the last boss, floor 3 like usual, no isolation, just open and free for all. — Making the game harder for the top-tier but easier for the casuals to progress.

[gaunt oracle]

what problem does FoW solve

[atomic schooner]

[warm fable]

||Benefits of Fog of War:

• fixes whole lobby in one module problem
• reduces constant 3rd party problem
• reduces boss farming(real money making)
• keeps players playing for longer as quests are harder to complete(good from dev perspective)
• can help to identify players using ESP
• gives dungeon crawling vibe
• reduces stream-sniping||

[gaunt oracle]

FoW from what I remember just made bossers ragequit and "everyone had ESP"

[flint birch]

currently games kinda end up being "go to this POI to find ppl and fight" changes a bit depending on the queue but it does get a bit stale

[heady grove]

honestly i hated fow it was just annoying

[warm fable]

If fog of war was in the game since beta version no one would ever complain

game is flip flop party

[gaunt oracle]

so people who want to PVP all rally at the same POIs to fight. why do we want to stop that? sounds like they're getting the action they're looking for. FoW just puts unnecessary friction between the player and their fun

[flint birch]

eh, sounds not fun

[shrewd merlin]

FoW is needed as a base to bring back mystery and discovery to the dungeon... It is needed in combination with random events, NPCs, modules, etc.

[warm fable]

yea

[void anchor]

I kind of like the current red system. There should always be an escape imo. If a trio with giga bis RMT gear is guarding the only way down that requires a long action, then it's just guaranteed death. You can always chase a team down a red and find them in the next floor if you want to kill them that bad.

[modest echo]

Get rid of everything invis pls

[warm fable]

whats the point of NPC in the dungeon if there is no fog of war

so much content can be made on top of fog of war

[void anchor]

Also, nerf Wizard at the high end. MM is busted.

[flint birch]

makes it too easy though. and some of these modules have things that can be looted for more gear that ppl just dont interact with cause its usually just a pvp heavy area.

[shrewd merlin]

I think they should gear-limit the first floor, if you have high-gear you can only enter 2nd floor. Gets rid of the pointless first floor for BiS RMT, and prevents this kind of griefing. Also, add a timer in the red chamber so they need to get out or enter the red within 20 seconds.

[gaunt oracle]

if you want to bring mystery and discovery back thats cool... I think there are better ways to do that;
randomized monster spawns
make PVE more challenging
some kind of large area notice of an event to attract players.

[warm fable]

hey bosses are 24/7 in the middle of the map
fog of war wound't change that

[gaunt oracle]

adding back FoW is just putting up barriers to stall fun

may as well have people solve a riddle and 2 captchas before they can 3rd party a boss fight

[atomic schooner]

Adding bacl FoW would promote actual dungeon crawling in the dungeon crawling extraction game

[warm fable]

people hated fog because bosses could spawned anywhere on the map
now bosses are locked in 3x3 middle modules

problem solved

[slow ivy]

I don't want to stumble f'k around in the FoW looking for that quest minion or item in hopes that the module I need is even there.

[sly idol]

I like what Ape said

[atomic schooner]

So you dont want to explore the dungeon in the game about exploring a dungeon?

[warm fable]

after fog of war removal we discovered that wasnt the problem with fog
the problem was with map generation and terrible quest design

[shrewd merlin]

The pluses to FoW is simply for people with map knowledge, there is little upside to it in terms of making a game better and more fun. Open map is bad for new players and puts them at a massive disadvantage. — Dungeon delving and PvP in this game should be determined by your ability to discover terrain and adapt for an advantage instead of perching on some buggy wall nook that you practiced 100 times. — It makes the game feel much more like a fantasy dungeon delver where you don't know what's around the corner, if there's traps, or a shining marvelous chest, or a whole team walking down the hallway. — This was the feeling of the playtests since nobody knew the maps... Bring that back... Make it so nobody ever knows the map. All you know is center = more dangerous/more reward.

[drifting scaffold]

randomize mob layouts

[flint birch]

wizard IMO needs a rework. give the class spell slots that they use up. like x 1st level spell slots, y 2nd level spll slots etc, make it so casting aspell for a longer time increases the spell slot that is used by the spell. so instacasting magic missle only shoots 4 orbs or only last for two seconds, but casting magic missle for longer gives you more orbs to shoot or increased the channel of the spell.

[atomic schooner]

People were still complaining that "oh this module doesnt exist" constantly no matter what lol

[gaunt oracle]

fog of war wasn't about exploring the dungeon in a fun way. it was a cheese maze simulator. you go into a map with a goal, but first you have to spend 10 minutes finding the goal. NO FUN

[slow ivy]

I'm explored it, been playing since day 1 almost. FoW will only hide what you need to find.

[sly idol]

100%

[flint birch]

this. some modules pretty much just spawn a different sub-boss but everything else remains the same. we need more variety in those mobs spawns

[shrewd merlin]

That's short sighted, obviously you change the quests to be more generic rather than targeted farming quests... You don't dismiss good changes to the game because it makes something else annoying beecause it was designed around the way it was before, you just redesign the something else... Changing quests is super easy.

[warm fable]

check these maps after fog of war removal
#warlock message
#warlock message
no wonder people could not escape the dungeon before

[atomic schooner]

Yes... thats the point of fow ... to make you explore the dungeon to find the hidden rooms ...

[sly idol]

you mean you don't like interacting with 50 torches?

[void kite]

when the game last wipe ? or when new wipe coming ?

[slow ivy]

That's the thing...it wasn't a good change then, it won't be a good change now. Why go backwards into something that was horrible?

[atomic schooner]

Tbh make portals visible through the fog and it would be really nice to hve back

[flint birch]

sept i think? next wipe i possibly the 29th

[unreal garnet]

best quest in gaming

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[sly idol]

yeah. my complaint with FOW was not knowing the exists as a noob. so, if exits are visible, thats fair for noobs coming in

[sly idol]

You know it!

[shrewd merlin]

Because to make the dungeon fun, you have to add FoW along with fully random modules and dungeon. — They should add fully randomized modules with random mobs, lootables, etc. So the run is a fresh dungeon every time. (not the same static modules every time)

They added FoW in the worst way possible, with every other system working in a way that needed static dungeons.

[atomic schooner]

It would be useful for everyone with how jank the map gan can be in inferno

[flint birch]

some things should be semi-static though, like boss rooms being closer to the center, or dual boss floors having the bosses spawn across each other

[slow ivy]

If that was true, every game would have FoW.

[shrewd merlin]

Not every game is a fantasy dungeon delver.

Just look at Diablo. They use FoW

[gaunt oracle]

buff entangling vines

[sly idol]

randomizing mobs, and creating places of interest during raids would be cool.
A majority of the time, my squad ignors mobs cause we're hunting for pvp. once you play enough, they're predictable.

I like the idea of randomizing their animations, and randomizing their spawn points.

The point of interest on map would be a good thing for people hunting for pvp / loot if possible.

[shrewd merlin]

Imagine LoL without FoW, it would be kind of dumb also

[slow ivy]

Yep, and you can go to the exact module you want with the teleport circle. So....not a true FoW is it?

[shrewd merlin]

? The dungeons you go into don't have that, what are you talking about

[flint birch]

"randomizing their animations" only works if they have a more sizable list of moves to pull from. which does sound like a good idea.

[sly idol]

One thing I've brought up to my squad over and over is make Squires continious. For instance, give people the option to jump portal to a new instance where only those who found self loot within squires keep progressing through.
Make a little mob like the expressmen, but make it the healing mercs to reup on meds & throwables before the new instance, and let people progress.

To me, it felt like Squires is the only fun mode to play.

Counteless times I just vendor my gear after squires, and load back up...

[slow ivy]

I don't know what to tell you. It's been tried here, it sucks, it'll suck again if it comes back. lol

[gaunt oracle]

bring multiclassing to PVE modes only
make PVE loot Non-tradeable and PVE-Only
make PVE HR drop the same quality as PVP HR

I need to play drulockwizleric with a self found trident

pls

[slow ivy]

I would rather see an option to PvE or PvP like WoW has, or Gray Zone Warfare would be another good example.

[shrewd merlin]

There... Is... an option to PvE or PvP, it's call PvE mode.... You've got to be trolling now 😂

[slow ivy]

Adventure mode is garbage. The loot table is bastardized.

THey didn't need to rework the entire dungeon loot table....they just needed a PvE side and a PvP side.

[shrewd merlin]

So you're telling me you want better PvE experience... But you want to sit there and play static maps with no variation, and do the same run over and over and over... Sounds like a successful game to me

[flint birch]

game needs roaming mobs of different varieties. i want a roaming boss, a roaming sub-boss, roaming normal mobs, i want a loot goblin that runs around collecting loot until it gets damaged and started sprinting for a exit/red

[warm fable]

make PVE modes random map

[sly idol]

lol

[robust merlin]

is there a suggestions page?

[subtle mauve]

Sounds great until you get into a fight and a roaming boss runs into you while your trying to 1v2

[slow ivy]

You see where the game is now??? lol Ok, the quest, is to bring more people in. Offering them a pittance in their Adventure mode isn't the way to bring people in. You don't penalize a person for going Adventure mode if they want to go adventure mode.

[warm fable]

so lets remove adventure mode

[flint birch]

thats literally perfect. just kite properly and use the boss to your advantage

[slow ivy]

YES. And go with a different formula. Let the dungeons drop the same gear, PvE or PvP.

Hell, let them grind AP in PvE mode, but dock them a % since there's no PvP there.

[robust merlin]

fhauck naw

[warm fable]

[shrewd merlin]

I agree with adventure mode having the same gear as normals/HR, but isolate the character and market so they don't interfere with the main game modes. — This is if the game actually had players, but IMO you combine Normals & HR for a seemless progression experience. And you combine the lobbies.

Normals/HR combined:
1st floor: White mobs (uncommon + occasional rare)
2nd floor: Red mobs (rares + occasional epic)
3rd floor: Black / Super nightmare center modules (epics + occasional legendary — Center modules have occasional uniques, double chance of legendaries.)

Could even smooth out the progression by making the outer most ring 50/50 of the last layer (such as half white and half red on the 2nd layer outer modules so new players can ease into it)

I think starting HR with full nightmare on the first floor is just dumb.

[gusty pollen]

? For the quest that requires Gold Chest interactions, are those the chests you get after killing a boss? Or are they elsewhere too?

[shy sage]

Does anyone know if unique in arena will be lost gear or kept?

[gusty pollen]

Normally, you get to keep items with your name found on it or those you crafted.

[shy sage]

I'm aware, I just saw them mention "hardcore" arena and I'm wondering what that entails. ty anyways tho

[naive siren]

it'll all be lost on defeat

hopefully they change their mind before it opens though

[shy sage]

that sounds so stupid. thanks for the answer

[solid sedge]

I know this is v annoying but anyone know when wipe will prob be?

[flint birch]

gold chest can be found in i think any spot a lion's chest can be found. higher chance for them in hr, the boss ones are marvelous chest

[steep drum]

Guys how many players rn?

[flint birch]

just you boo

[slow ivy]

8 players. But then, I'm currently on the Test server. lol

[steep drum]

Havent played in 3 months

[gaunt oracle]

~2800

[steep drum]

Appreciate it

[unreal garnet]

2800 = 82 player per queue average

[karmic crest]

games dead AAL . only lobbies w PvP or other players is S2R which is a stupid game moide.. whynot just have norms so poeple can loot and have gear fight with actual purpose. now its just S2R and no one has any loot you kill the whole lobby go downastairs and youre by yourslef again in ruins... gaame wass killed

[mystic anvil]

W
I
P
E

H
Y
P
E

!

[mild flax]

how do you farm gold coin chests

[native coyote]

hey guys, is there any info of which map will be volcano layer?

[tranquil plover]

easiest way to make 50k gold for the religion skin in the next 9 days? i have a life so looking for something possible lol

[bitter garnet]

logically it would be goblin caves considering its been 3 years that its been 1 layer lol

[tranquil plover]

just figured out how to beat cyclops i was thinking selling cyclop pieces might work

[sterile prairie]

is this game dead now? havent played in a while

[slow ivy]

Life support.

[sterile prairie]

damn

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[warm fable]

❤️ ❤️

[zealous tulip]

I dont think we have gotten any confirmation on that. He said once that the floor was getting warm and that is the last I heard about it. I'm impatiently waiting to see if there will be a new map or added to another map.

[gaunt oracle]

PVE HR water map. Extract at 10 min with a full inventory. Details are in the description #dnd-content message

[gusty pollen]

As a druid with Penguin mode, you're a force on that map.

[round iris]

ty

[nova lotus]

Where can I get the underwater lobby skin? Was it a limited time offer?

[gaunt oracle]

even on my fighter, sorc, or ranger I can pull 130g/minute at least. druid is 150 a minute just cuz I can loot more before rowing out

🐧

[rose kayak]

Are kobold bracelet drops bugged? They used to plague me all the dang time and now they refuse to appear, I've killed like twelve kobolds solo in one run and not a single one dropped a bracelet

[drifting scaffold]

[unreal garnet]

im so excited for it be the 2nd layer of my favorite map.... water map!!

[zinc mountain]

only bosses that give anything worth selling is spectral knight and every boss that can drop an artifact, so lich warlord ghost king wyvern and the water map bosses

[slim scroll]

@tidal prawn love ur sketch in #dnd-fan-art very nice

[edgy hill]

what happened to the stats of like all your kills in each dungeon for 1v1 2v2 and 3v3 did they remove that awhile ago? i remember being able to see all your stats. The achievement tab only tells you up to 100 kills

[tidal prawn]

Tysm 🍵

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[bitter garnet]

lmao if its legit the water map i will quit the game. the only map that seems logical is the goblin caves tho cause a cave can be in a volcano

[vagrant heron]

when is wipe

[mighty sparrow]

They already said frost mountain is a volcano

[bitter garnet]

aintnoway were getting 3rd layer of frost map before goblin caves wtfffffff

its been 3 years since gobo caves came out xD how do we not have a 2nd layer by now

[lament tapir]

when wipe

[keen zephyr]

Believe that one might be limited if it’s not in the store

[keen zephyr]

Are you in adventure mode?

[rose kayak]

Always been in adventure mode. Still used to get them way more often

[keen zephyr]

Ah, I always hunt them in normal, I try not to go into adventure mode

[warped lintel]

just rng I've had entire raids go without one and others where nearly every kill dropped one

[stuck cloak]

@proud copper hey KaisuoSus is cheating aimlock spooted instant

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[visual swallow]

quarterstaff doesn't do any magic dmg

[zenith pulsar]

Is there any news on trailer or teaser for next season yet ?

[loud cipher]

Yes we were given a hint of a volcano and a gorilla so we think its a form for druid and a second floor to gob caves

[gaunt oracle]

i was gona try sorc next wipe but if they're giving me a form its over

[lofty belfry]

do we think water map will be scrapped

[timber orbit]

no

[errant isle]

How do certain items go from selling for 2k to 500 gold in minutes? Ive never understand how the market changes so fast and drastically?

[final monolith]

next patch is gonna be some bullshit if druid can still run away all day everyday and never dies
kinda breaks the game being immortal

volcano, gorrilla or not, its gonna be druids only next patch

[scenic badge]

getting a team kill penatly when u spawn in to a bear teamate attacking you

[sacred dagger]

Supply and demand. If it's that drastic probably a crafting mat used in arena kits and arena ended for the week

[vale comet]

sdf shits and graysun wipes

[fading bramble]

^ facts

what happened to terrence

[gusty pollen]

So you are here playing and talking about the game, but putting it down.
So just leave the discord and stop wasting your life and our time.

[fading bramble]

rydin what happened to terrence

[finite flicker]

@hexed adder Q&A？？？

[agile laurel]

terrence is the quiver guy now he stepped down

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[mighty sparrow]

The curse of the quiver claims all

[simple peak]

iron hammer are you seriously?...
...who is does a spider are to mummy? your sayjng somebody is go the dungens and is choosed to wrap a bandages for spideer ?
many spidrer. Hundreds spideer. Infinate spider...And then is a put they in a vase.? This is doesnt sense.......
remove spiffer mommy from you game . How many time im keel to a spider r r mumm.y.... becaus he is infinate coming from he jar, are to quickly.. ..... stop this nosense.

[sturdy pewter]

Game is dead hahha

[umbral lintel]

Do we not have patch notes or any knowledge of what's coming next wipe?

[sturdy pewter]

Nothing is coming next wipe

[simple peak]

Next wipe same as last wipe

More poop

[umbral lintel]

Alright doomers you've still not answered the question. thanks anway

[simple peak]

Your welcome 👍

(Bro doesn't read the weekly update articles they publish or check the twitch streams)

ThunderFistChad is typing...

[final monolith]

whats the question

[umbral lintel]

No I don't and that's not some gotcha I'm not super invested into this game but their last discord announcement was just when it's happening. nothing about what is happening

[final monolith]

nothing was said about the upcoming patch timing or content wise

[umbral lintel]

thanks

[final monolith]

if they release another shitty map (volcano) and not adress the run and runner meta, game is over

[simple peak]

Thats fair

To piggy back since he types faster than I do, yea nothing was said

I haven't touched the game since they did the bs with the exits

[final monolith]

wah you could touch it again ngl its been a while
its been getting worse

[simple peak]

I figured

I just come here to fuck around in the chat now

[umbral lintel]

queueing in now. lets see how bad it is:P

[final monolith]

just go in s2r and go either full kiting MS with a range class or go full tank with a melee build

[simple peak]

Maybe I'll do full plate LS and get my shit rocked since there's no new players apperently

[final monolith]

nah LS was buffed, fighter is strong if u can parry youll win vs barb (except felling axe) and get rocked by a wizard

[gusty pollen]

I run across new players all the time, in groups though.

[final monolith]

new players disgust me ngl

[simple peak]

I gave up the last round I tried since 37 consecutive runs was all sweats

[final monolith]

its too steep of a learning curve for there* not to be a tutorial

[simple peak]

I'm a casual

I've been playing since pt1 and I have nothing to show for it aside from in game merch lmao

No skill to show for it lmao

[final monolith]

the pros have been getting better and better, and the gear also is strong rn imo

you cant 1v1 squire vs geared

[simple peak]

Yea I don't wanna play with the pros I wanna play with the people like me who are shit at this game and are only playing for fun and not to sweat

[final monolith]

myea we need Skill based match making and less queue imo

[simple peak]

My bad let me clarify

The people who's idea of fun is not using others solely like loot boxes

I miss when you could find cool chill people and everyone wasn't some "yeah I'm chill" lame ass bum

[final monolith]

they need to fix the maps we dont like, dramatically reduce the queues, and flatten the gear to power curve
also fix druid ability to be immortal

[simple peak]

Absolutely won't happen lmao improving the game isn't on sdf's roadmap

[final monolith]

sdf is probly excited to release monk and volcano map, and probably is trying to brainwash people to go back to the original vision once again
but his power wanes in the light

[simple peak]

Vision 🤮

[gusty pollen]

What's this 'we' shit, the maps are good, thankfully Blue Maelstrom is good. 'We' are looking forward to the next map.
You can go back to League of Pidgeons.

[simple peak]

It didn't include you

Ill apologize on his behalf

He meant the majority

[cursive flame]

'We' are definitely not looking forward to yet another map with more queues. The majority doesnt want new content when the current content is broken

[simple peak]

Precisely

[umbral lintel]

I just queued into a normal game and killed 3 people who were clearly quite new. classic blue kit vs squires

[cursive flame]

probably bots

[simple peak]

^^^

The dark and darker demon can't get me to download it again

I won't be foooooled

[unreal garnet]

i hope the fake water in crypts and cavern never goes away. it perfectly summarizes these devs

[errant isle]

Cleric hit slow is mad crazy

[worn rain]

I think I can get the gold coins somehow, but what steps do you think I should take to purchase ray eggs with artifacts?

[sturdy pewter]

What pros there are only 1000 players

[final monolith]

i mean ive been playing non stop compared to people that are starting out theres a skill gap
when i rando queue in s2r i get frustrated

[sturdy pewter]

So you are the pro?

[final monolith]

id rather see the game 1 queue, with the gear either so abundant or not that strong but with cool unique effects/vfxs
and some Skill based match making for at least who u play with

[sturdy pewter]

Find a new game sorry

[remote locust]

you can 1v1 squire to geared its just not easy if people in care know what they are doing or you just try to head on fight without a advantage like mobs or a third party

[final monolith]

noah i dont like your attitude so im gonna stop this conversation right here

[remote locust]

if you want 1 que there can't be skill based match making

[sturdy pewter]

I’m just giving some advice

You seem frustrated

[final monolith]

yea, go fk urself buddy how bout that

[mild flax]

how do yg farm gold other than killing people

[supple garnet]

bossing

[sturdy pewter]

Yikes! Go que another game buddy haha.

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[subtle rose]

Watch the market for certain crafting materials, they are usually good for making gold quickly (depending on the item)

[gaunt oracle]

#the-tavern message

[gusty pollen]

Roll up a Bard, use the Loot Perk, loot chests and everything else

[dreamy vine]

mine pick herbs etc

[upper birch]

mistfall hunter 2 more months 😎 😎

[timber orbit]

what’s that

[upper birch]

only playable game in this genre

well i guess its not playable yet xd

[manic stag]

@near stirrup yo

[formal bronze]

is dark and darker back on wipe boys?!?!?!?

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[summer shard]

Unrestricted arena still 23rd?

[vocal nebula]

unblock me mf

[nova lotus]

Unlucky. Thx.

[dusty shale]

how does the faustin bargin thing work

[obtuse harbor]

MAKE UNIQUES UNIQUE AGAIN, GIVE BACK BIS SINGLE ROLLS

[misty grail]

so whats up with artifact arena

[ionic fox]

Agreed

Ban this guy he’s rmting

😛

[muted fern]

Does the cave troll/Cyclops drop artifacts in highroller?

[flint adder]

When will wipe happen?

[ionic fox]

28th for na 29th for IRONMACE

[misty grail]

are we gonna get any updates lmao, classic radio silence

[woven light]

Unfortunately not, if you kill both unlock you a room that has a chance to drop an artifact though. You can also get the mystic gem from either boss and it unlocks a different room that could have an artifact

[south patrol]

More playing around, games meh now

[uneven swan]

2 things make this game un-fun. 1. perfect stealth is bad in a game like this and 2. druid insta shapeshifting circumvents many restrictive game mechanics at once.

[muted fern]

Thanks King

[ionic fox]

both true honestly give rouge more mobility like a dash or something and just remove hide

[nocturne scarab]

hi guys i suck at the game
is it okay to come here and complain about shit i want removed because i suck?

[swift coral]

Yeah thats fine man

[nocturne scarab]

ok, just checking
i didnt want genuine conversation either
i was hoping i could glaze over someone typing and talk more about shit i want removed
tyty

[swift coral]

Remember too that you speak for everyone, a very important factor

[nocturne scarab]

ƒúÇk

[warm fable]

❤️

[muted fern]

Is it in the chest or the gold pile for the mystical gem loot roon

[misty arrow]

@hexed adder can u pls give us more news abut the wipe event like is it going to be sff or some thing like that

[vivid wasp]

9 days until wipe, what are some of the features you guys are most excited for?

[turbid elbow]

40+ perks/skills/spells inc with the lava map. trust boyz, I dreamt it

[unreal garnet]

the single new wizard spell, Iceball (reskinned fireball that does ice damage instead)

[vivid wasp]

Space map maybe, that's what everyone wanted

[reef sentinel]

Is there even anything they e told us about

[unreal garnet]

no

[bleak coyote]

the obligatory flipflops every 2 weeks for the first 2 months.
also looking forward to building a full arena kit again only to have it rendered useless after 6 weeks because SDF wants to support RMT some more

[unreal garnet]

people talking about monk but this is the last mention of monk from Squirrelbrain #sdfs-kitchen message

[lapis birch]

Monk isn't planned for this wipe, maybe next

Gathering hall is coming tho, right?

[unreal garnet]

😅

❤️

[obtuse harbor]

This season's gonna be peak, we're finally getting more perks and skills

[crude ice]

Just listen to the footsteps

[unreal garnet]

two handed throwing sounds reasonable, two handed dual wielding sounds crazy goofy

[warm fable]

I don't want to lose hearing

[uneven swan]

im not listening to no footsteps in 3s, with my 30 dollar headset and chatting with my boys the whole time

if the game is unplayable without deadsilence, listening like a ninja hearing a distant floorboard creeking, guess what, that contributes to the game being unfun lol

[lost plover]

I mean the negative move speed will be mega hopefully

But i can't wait to see the attack combos

double halberd or double double axe too

[strange sage]

barb doesnt get harlberd big dawg

[lost plover]

Nah for when they inevitably bring back multi classing

I can dream @strange sage

BoC lock with double halberd

[strange sage]

nightmare nightmare nightmare nightmare nightmare

[lost plover]

One man's nightmare is another man's dream. someone importance probably said that somewhere possibly

[warm fable]

Double Halberd

[lost plover]

Double longsword?

[finite flicker]

next and next

[warm fable]

How strong must person be to wield 2 massive longsoweds

[humble blaze]

How many days left for the "we are very sorry but the Next wipe Will be delayed for 2 weeks, but GrEaT tHiNGs aRE cOMInG!!! Stat tuned tm" message?

[warm fable]

[primal hinge]

whats the most active server region

i cant find any players

[lapis birch]

Country of cherry blossom

Which name I cannot specify

[turbid elbow]

go to east asis(tokyo) if your ping allows it

[primal hinge]

k

i hope i can finnaly reexperience my days of dungeon looting while fighting fellow adventurers

[turbid elbow]

scouted just now the server in question hr solo, 6 ppl besides me on ruins; it's end of wipe pop megalow

[primal hinge]

Whens the next wipe?

[turbid elbow]

29th this month as per pinned message

[primal hinge]

k

[weak shale]

whens the q and a

[warm fable]

Any after 10days

[hallow cobalt]

we are nearing the end... still holding the line.. have hope boys

[plain drift]

When is the qa

[restive sinew]

man I really hope they cook up for this next wipe, Im sure they got something planned

[sonic cave]

It was used in Diablo and WoW, I believe. It would be horrible in Dark and Darker.

Just a quick -80 movespeed so you can attack with one of your 2h weapons at a time.

[cyan monolith]

No

[warm fable]

<@&988703997378584596> ?

[acoustic pivot]

is that supossed to stop him from asking again under another discord id

[sonic cave]

Personally I think while dual-wielding you should gain +10% action speed by alternating m1 and m2 attacks 🤷 since being able to attack with both together would be busted.

Slayer would just need to have some damage removed, since it's balanced around a system without that.

[turbid elbow]

the Terms of Service explicitly state you may not “sublicense, rent, lease, sell, trade, gift, bequeath or otherwise transfer your Account or any Virtual Items associated with your Account to anyone without COMPANY’s written permission.” this includes selling the account outright.

[acoustic pivot]

do you think that stops anybody

( it doesn't )

wait until you discover you can live your life without said boogeymen consequences

if you were smart you'd say yes and get his game id then work on banning that instead of a discord unlinked to his game account

[turbid elbow]

wtf bro yapping about

[acoustic pivot]

your reading comprehension is too low

[turbid elbow]

i am allergic to dumbness and you emanate it, my brain just cant read it sry

[acoustic pivot]

dudes sell accounts despite you copy and pasting terms of service

[sonic cave]

Let me see if I've followed this. Someone tries to sell their account. People in chat correctly call for a Warden. Then another person HRRRMMM ACKSHUALLY's the normal thing that people are supposed to do.

[acoustic pivot]

simple enough for you yeah

[sonic cave]

Maybe we found the sockpuppet.

[warm fable]

I wish anyone trying to cheat or rmt would face immediate consequences

[acoustic pivot]

wishing is a cope

[lavish tide]

they don't want to ban his game id he's selling they want to ban his discord id because they're victims for even having to read it

[warm fable]

I wish it was year 2144 where AI controls everything for society well being.

[lavish tide]

this is common modern era victimize yourself culture

[swift coral]

naurr the alt army

[sonic cave]

Two accounts that joined on the 13th and the 15th of this month defending each other, talking about how it's easy to make new discord accounts. That'sss wildddd.

[turbid elbow]

bro wants battery ppl

[lethal oar]

mad wild

[swift coral]

lmfaoo the third alt speaks

[lethal oar]

allegedly

[swift coral]

tuff

[lethal oar]

🥶

[lapis birch]

Let's change subject what are your expectations for new wipe

[sonic cave]

A gathering hall / guild system.

[swift coral]

people to be really mad about the new map layer being on frost mountain instead of goblin caves, probably

[bleak coyote]

extremely low, and i will still be disappointed.
heck, it's 3 days from the "hardcore event" and they could not even give us more info on that other than the one liner from graysun 2 weeks ago

[sonic cave]

When the game's at 50k players, people don't care about new map content. They're struggling to clear the existing maps and learn the bosses.

When the game's at 3k players, suddenly those remaining people really want new map content for some reason. Huh.

[turbid elbow]

after water map, noone is asking for new map. if they are they should get checked

[swift coral]

people will ask for more no matter the playercount IMO, as proven by arc raiders

[sonic cave]

That's fair @swift coral but my comment is more about how hardcore players want new content because they've conquered the old. And maybe that shouldn't be the focus.

[swift coral]

i dont think arc's content stretches as far as dads tho

[swift coral]

fair enough

[lost plover]

I'm hoping for more fire themed stuff. it looked cool

[lapis birch]

For me it's new spells skills and perks for classes, to make build diversity an actual thing, still quietly hoping to remove true damage and amp up armor pen

I think they already addressed that so I'm hopeful this time but not too much

[swift coral]

if we're speaking on hopes i hope tf this game gets better

[lost plover]

oh i'm psyched for those too

I'm hoping for some caster perks for cleric

[sonic cave]

This is me as well. I'd honestly kill for a new skill button. They can add new options all they'd like, but at the end of the day having 2 skills with long cooldowns makes things very repetitive as far as class diversity goes. Maybe enough new options could change this, but as is there tends to be 2 best options for each class anyway. With some exceptions.

[lost plover]

or some new spells

maybe a heal over time

or like a holy hammer throw

[swift coral]

justification to run 10 spell warlock would be cool but not concerned about when that happens tbh

[swift coral]

i know warlocks def want a burst damage spell

[sonic cave]

Giving Warlock burst is kind of scary, though. TM is already a really well-rounded solo class. I'd prefer to see power taken away from (high gear) Wizard instead of other classes turning into it.

[swift coral]

There are people who feel they are lacking something since curse of pain stopped being spammable.
I obviously think that the CoP spam fix was good, it was far too OP and IMO not really in line with the design of the spell.
However I do believe it left somewhat of a gap for warlocks who do want to have their main dmg output be via spell usage, full caster locks.

Dark bolt can't be expected to be a drop in replacement for what they lost IMO.
Just need something that's more balanced than what cop spam was, in my opinion and people would be happy.

Eldritch blast, for example.
idk about what tradeoffs it may have, but a having a spell more fit for the purpose of burst spell damage instead is my point

For me it's not really about power it's more about playstyle variability, a curse based warlock with giga high damage over time might not be the playstyle someone prefers, they might think of it as being cheesy and lacking in skill expression

Dark beam being a rather underwhelming example of how varied lock casting could be

[sonic cave]

I could see giving them a zap-like spell (eldritch blast). But if it's going to be consistent damage output, it would need some type of major drawback. It could have a high health cost, a long cast time, or no damage scaling. Something like that.

[swift coral]

I agree, curse of pain was zap without drawback, imo. less damage but didnt matter, infinite cast

needed to be fixed, I dont believe something should be added that matches that power level after changing cop to address how broken spamming it was

[sonic cave]

I think high health cost would be best... That way it's most painful for TM lock, which doesn't really need more ways to win a fight when it's core method is so solid.

[swift coral]

Just something that actually is designed to be used how people were using spam cop, if ya get me

[sonic cave]

Plus, a long cast time will kill off a spell being viable, even if everything else about it was busted OP. And no damage scaling could be okay, but it would be the first spell of that type.

[swift coral]

yeah something for sure, IMO something that limits the kite playstyle, something more stand your ground

[sonic cave]

I do like the idea of "cantrips", though.

[swift coral]

maybe a ms reduction after cast for a short time ( for powerful burst )

to avoid someone kiting, turning, blasting, kiting

glad its not my job to figure this shit out, thats all i can say for certain

[sonic cave]

If the cast time's long enough, you fix that kiting problem.

[ashen rose]

Glad a game company isn’t hyping up or advertising a major update/wipe

[swift coral]

mm

[sonic cave]

I'd like cantrips to be added to cleric and wizard, honestly. With low damage/healing, a long cast time (like 3+ seconds), zero scaling with true damage / magic power / magic healing, but infinite uses.

[lapis birch]

More utility for wizard and make it more supportive class with spells like ignite, glaciate (taken from sorc and with ability to cast on others), some kind of delayed blink spell with like 1/2 charges, levitate is something that would fit wizard more too

[swift coral]

I think a good burst spell for warlock would be something that requires setting up, landing two curses and then using the burst spell as a catalyst to 'trigger' each curse into doing high burst damage based on the duration left of both curses or something

[sonic cave]

This was supposed to be the plan after Sorcerer came out :/ but it never happened. Sorcerer stayed the utility caster and Wizard stayed the burst teamfighter.

[swift coral]

a spell that converts applied DOT's into direct damage

that would be burst

[sonic cave]

WoW has that mechanic, right? I forget the name of the spell that Affliction Warlock has that does the same.

[swift coral]

yup

[sonic cave]

I think it's neat. Give it a health cost and it removes the curse healing. I think that would be fine.

[swift coral]

and rather skill/mechanics based too, a nice lii spell rotation

[lapis birch]

Maybe perk that would make sticking someone with 3 different curses makes it explode to deal massive damage

[swift coral]

I think its along the track of a good idea, however I really think warlocks are hungry for spells specifically, not perks

otherwise i'd 100% agree with something along those lines

[lapis birch]

Yeah fair, just loose thought

[sonic cave]

I think just 10(0) damage + 100% of remaining curse damage, per curse, would be fine. It just needs to have a cast time and a health cost to match it.

[swift coral]

It's be a beautiful day when its meta to run 10spell lock

[sonic cave]

Whoops, changed it so each curse doesn't do 10 + scaling damage xD I have to keep remembering this game doubles your base damage with true damage from gear for some reason.

[lapis birch]

Wish lock spell was actually useful, make it 2 charges but make objects indestructible

[swift coral]

Yeah so long as there are decently balanced tradeoffs, I think if ur not playing a kite playstyle, warlock has good tradeoffs already, some pretty harsh one

[opaque heath]

When is the qa

[lapis birch]

Soon tm

[sonic cave]

An excellent, should have already been answered, question Dabi.

[swift coral]

Graysun's soon's transcend time and space

[opaque heath]

where? in a channel with houndsreds of messages or in an official news channel?

its not even pinned

[sonic cave]

@hexed adder If someone were to visit the office in Seongnam, would anyone even be there or is it a Paris Baguette now?

[opaque heath]

oh misunderstood my bad xD

[sonic cave]

😂 no worries, man. Yeah we've heard nothing.

[opaque heath]

maybe the late rugpulled us all

waaay too late rugpull

[sonic cave]

Not a rugpull. I like to think they just have a very, very, very cautious attorney. That's my headcanon.

"It's been 2 years, but still be careful with your communication... We don't want Nexon pulling out a binder full of all the emoji's you've given in your discord."

[opaque heath]

isnt that legal thing done in their favor?

[sonic cave]

They're appealing up to Korea's supreme court. For no discernible reason other than reputation.

[swift coral]

its still going to appellate court

[lapis birch]

No they lost money in the end, but got some back

[swift coral]

i think both parties dont agree to 100% of the rulings so both parties are appealing
IM and Nexon have different things they dont agree with here n there about the rulings

[sonic cave]

Lowest Court (trial court) ---> Nexon wins on 1 count, Ironmace wins on 2.

• Not great, since that 1 count was worth a gigantic amount of IM's profit from the game.

Intermediate Court (appellate court) ---> Ironmace wins on that 3rd count. But they may have used some trade secrets. Anyways, here's the profit back.

• Unacceptable for Ironmace. For some reason. So they:

Appeal even further to Highest Court (Supreme Court)

[opaque heath]

but in the end what could it have to do with that? i mean its a wipe coming done before many times and they dont have to mention anything about legal

[lapis birch]

If it goes south that's gonna get costly

[sonic cave]

I have zero idea. Thus my headcanon about the attorney telling them "be careful with your communication" and they held onto that for 2-3 years for some reason.

[swift coral]

Just means not all resources can be invested into the game, it may or may not affect dev pace and stuff but not really anything we can actually verify

[molten iris]

[sonic cave]

It's not actually related to anything legal. Or at least I'm 99% sure about that - I don't know Korea's legal system. It's got to be something else, but as a fan it's frustrating.

[vital violet]

Any updated on the new arena?

[vale oar]

🌋

[turbid elbow]

S8 might just be cinema

[cyan monolith]

In the tragedy genre

Comedic tragedy

[turbid elbow]

still cinema tho, dual wielding charge barb inc

[subtle rose]

Krakatoa!

[vale oar]

Krakatooh ooh ah ah

[cyan monolith]

😭

[vale echo]

Surely there's some new season info any moment now right

[cyan monolith]

Soon = 1-2 week

[drifting scaffold]

had a dream the wipe dropped with zero preview or warning and it was cool

[cyan monolith]

I have a dream

Where one day, they will tell the community about whats coming. Rather than hinting at it.

[edgy relic]

guys when is wipe

[vale echo]

I mean thats kinda when the wipe happens on the 29th, need some info before

[cyan monolith]

✌️

[vale echo]

Have friends asking is there gonna be anything even new else they don't give a shit to play at all

[bleak coyote]

they cant even give info on the event they are having in less than 3 days

[cyan monolith]

There will be, just dont know what

A lot will be revealed next patch so this thursday

[low mango]

its easy, you fight ppl and gain nothing but they lose shit

[cunning crypt]

anyone know when wipe is

[bleak coyote]

After you stand up from the toilet

[gritty quiver]

Graysun, do you still not have a date for the QA you mentioned?

[idle isle]

You will have to wait for the patch notes on the wipe day. There is going to be a dev live steam at some point before the wipe, they will mention some things about the new season, but they typically don't mention all of it, and in fact they might keep the biggest changes secret for the wipe day, so again, just be patient and wait for the new season's patch notes.

[vale echo]

I'm just saying normally there's at least some info quite a bit beforehand, this time its really late for whatever reason. The only times we had a lot of info when there were still the podcasts and stuff but haven't seen those in a while either

[still forge]

Not sharing info in advance is bad. Zero hype is generated and people don’t know what to expect, so most likely they ignore it and move on. That means less players playing the game.

And even if they shared any info today it would’ve already been too late. So…

[warm fable]

Early Access Season #8
Game Updates:

• From now on multiple maps are 7x7 now
• Added new POI players naturally gravitate towards
• The Dark Swarm circle has been removed from the High Roller
• A new monsters has been added
• Expressman has been added to every dungeon
• Added new match ending mechanic in ice abyss
• Improved performance of all dungeons
• Quiver and backpack has been added
• Stash sort system has been added
• New artifact cape has been added
• New small artifact shield has been added
• New craft items have been added
• The Arena map pool has been updated with new maps
• This Season Arena item grade will be limited to SSF items
  +60 perks, spells, skills

[lofty belfry]

does dark relfection still work with soul collector

[round stirrup]

So we got our first dash with druid and our first teleport with sorcerer. What new mobility skill will we get with monk?

[stiff tinsel]

curl up and roll in a ball

[still forge]

Flying kick

[bleak coyote]

Quiver and backpack has been added
You almost had us

[placid tangle]

Monk?

[subtle rose]

Where is the fishing update?

[keen trellis]

i gonna pkayed arc raiders this gamed is boring'

[scenic dawn]

thats what i say when i play arc raiders, gonna go play dark this game boring

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[slim scroll]

there wont be a monk

[hybrid sequoia]

unacceptable, because nexon shouldn't get money for fake accusations they have lost in court, and they still hold some

do you see the reason now, or it sounds fair to you?

[timber orbit]

i don’t think aura and hype moments contributes to if an update is good or not

example: the ruins rework trailer had mad aura and is like, the worst map in the game still

[distant yoke]

Are there any rules for the game itself?

[round stirrup]

There are no rules, only vision

[drifting scaffold]

[misty ridge]

Good morning tavern chat

[sonic cave]

I think you misread what I said. IM received the lost profits from Court 1's holding. Court 2 did that. They are appealing to Court 3 based for what appears to be reputation based reasons.

[hybrid sequoia]

its still about money, they got back 2 mil, nexon still holds 3 mil for no reason

[sudden hatch]

sdf will hire back the inventory guy <3

[remote finch]

When do we get any information about the new season? No new posts in sdfs-kitchen or graysuns-plate

[sonic cave]

Where are you getting this information? The latest on their legal post was that the intermediate court vacated the lower court's ruling regarding trade secrets. That would mean all of the profits were returned.

[swift coral]

iirc the fee IM had to pay wasnt based on one charge, the fee was altered and refunded based on one charge being dropped in IM's favour

one or more idk, but definitely not a full refund, partial

[supple drift]

Probably new announcement next sunday. Thats when the gibbon comes back to work.

So.. stay a bit longer. ALSO..

[hybrid sequoia]

did you read what sdf wrote in announcements recently?

[gaunt oracle]

buff entangling vines

[supple drift]

Ironmace...

I'm watching you... Don't make another disappointment nor delay..

Otherwise, Ima crash out really hard! Like throwing a glass of peanut butter jar to the floor.

[hybrid sequoia]

Mistfall Hunter is almost here, just sit tight

if sdf needs a strong wake up call, he'll get one in less than 2 months

[supple drift]

3rd person view? ew.

[neat frigate]

they didnt get all the profits back.

[pulsar lantern]

Kinda crazy how theres 9 days until wipe and we still dont know jack shit

[neat frigate]

they also still didnt get rid of the trade secrets decision

[neat frigate]

most of this is incorrect, heres the actual information https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20251204104700017?section=search

[final monolith]

mistfall hunters gon be tight

[cunning crypt]

when's wipe

[swift coral]

15 mins

[woven light]

How long before wipe do we usually get news?

[uncut wigeon]

13 mins

[gaunt oracle]

5 days ago

[drifting scaffold]

very varied. like 1 month, 2 weeks, there's been a couple where we just know broad things like this one up until patch notes

[woven light]

Lame :/

[low mango]

5 months*

[drifting scaffold]

ppl rip them new buttholes for over promising so they've finally wisened up 🤣

[supple drift]

guys... i dont want barb, warlock, or druid content. give me fighter content...

those classes are not interested because of how easy they are...

i want wizard, fighter, or bard.

[drifting scaffold]

bard for sure

[low mango]

I want druid to be great again, panther have too low hp and bear should be atleast 200hp in squire because its bear and should have ability to destroy opponents shields becasuse i freaking hate them! i wish my lord Sdf will hear me out.

[lapis birch]

Bruh

[supple drift]

you got mobility. just go behind him.

or use spear to poke his feet when using shield

just get gud like repoze and u're immortal.

[lapis birch]

Poke his feet so he can't walk

[low mango]

Druid highest skill class but its soo weak...

[supple drift]

all i want is just rework druids. druids are disaster in solo

[lapis birch]

Yeah man, buff chicken let it rip 500% DMG to head

[hybrid sequoia]

ah yes, soo weak that its the most dominant solo class

and for 3 straight seasons

[low mango]

Atleast 600% lol

[supple drift]

@quaint carbon See, someone wants buff chicken instead of penguin!
#the-tavern message

[lapis birch]

Buff chicken best form

[low mango]

Nah never, i only see 1 iq fighter. Easiest class ever, just hold W

[lapis birch]

100 missed calls from barb

[low mango]

Barb is 0 iq

not even counting

Nah im joking, fuck druids worst shit ever existed in this fkin game

[lapis birch]

I liked when you could easily destroy doors after one patch and then they reverted it back to door and doorer

[supple drift]

yep, need rework

[drifting scaffold]

u can still do this it just takes 1 more swing lol

[lapis birch]

Depends on weapon

[drifting scaffold]

yeah as always lol

[lapis birch]

Maces are taking like 3 hits maybe 4 can't remember

[drifting scaffold]

yeah they balanced it very appropriately for 1h weapons

i watch ppl fuck it up a lot tho. like if you hit the door before the real swing starts it doesn't do anything

[lapis birch]

I still wish it was first iteration when they were destroyed very easily

Maybe remove doors and add traps to some places

Like having doors everywhere is boring

[supple drift]

I missed old bard healing song..

[drifting scaffold]

i want more varied doors to show up. like why is every door in goblins the wooden with the window? no stone doors or doors without windows?

that one iteration of ruins with boards was nice

[supple drift]

a door should have a puzzle

[lapis birch]

Planks instead of doors, cool

[gaunt oracle]

randomize doors

[supple drift]

and a door should have a riddle

[lapis birch]

Maybe lockpick doors

[drifting scaffold]

we have that in crypts, put it in other places too

[supple drift]

a door should have a see through like a glass door.

[drifting scaffold]

clear window i like it

[supple drift]

A door should have one way see through instead two.

[drifting scaffold]

magic door i like it

[supple drift]

A door should have be a door mob

like a fire breathing face statue on the door.

i think it's it.

[low mango]

There should be no door

[drifting scaffold]

monster door i like it

[supple drift]

wow.. what a genius. i like it. But nooooo~ it's not giving us a breathing room to reset a bit.

[low mango]

[drifting scaffold]

one of my favorite tactics for ppl who can't stop playing door and doorer is just ... wait

[neon kite]

Dark and darker mobile had door mimics

truth be told

[dire anvil]

This silence is actually crazy, wtf are they doing

[shut kelp]

where is everyone lol

[turbid elbow]

they be cookin with fire

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[west drift]

paladin yet?

[viral oracle]

shouldn't whipe be happening soon? Also plz remove druid

[vapid spruce]

When 🧻

[viral oracle]

🚽

[tulip echo]

1/29

[random laurel]

29th = end of service, IM close

[viral oracle]

They need to sell this game to someone who knows what they're doing

[dire anvil]

Yeah because the ppl who tried to recreate this kinda game sure did well already, look at dungeonborne :^)

[random laurel]

dungenborne devs were not better than IM , ofc it failed

[viral oracle]

Why i said to someone who knows what they'r doing lol

[dire anvil]

IM knows what they're doing, just some things that are weird at times, thats about it

[random laurel]

they definetly know, but they are very bad at it. so it doesnt help 🙂

[viral oracle]

^^^

[dire anvil]

Eh I wouldnt say bad at it 🤷 more ppl actually like the game then the ppl complaining about it

[drifting scaffold]

i made a paladin character in a new run of morrowind and thought of you timothy. hope you're well

[viral oracle]

player count says otherwise tbh

[random laurel]

??? ofc ?? the people that complain are the people that love the game, but now they gave up and left, so no one complain anymore

[dire anvil]

At least they take feedback into consideration to some extent but also the amount of idiocy spewed in here in terms of "ideas" is beyond silly

[dire anvil]

YOu mean like EVERY near wipe time?

[viral oracle]

the game has to have continuos dungeons because player count is so low

[random laurel]

false excuse, player count was already low 1 month into the wipe

[viral oracle]

No this whipe started off well but druid is a big problem and everyone stopped playing i love this game i just want to see it do well but its not doing well

[dire anvil]

Now youre just talking outta your ass because thats just not true

[random laurel]

stats says im right so...

[viral oracle]

not really one month or little after player count took a dive

[wise oyster]

So lobbies are dead rn since wipe is happening soon I guess?

[dire anvil]

What "stats" they literally had an increase in players from wipe begin in sept to october lmao

[random laurel]

23 sept, 17K players, 1 month later 11k,

just checked

[dire anvil]

Then youre checking wrong, steamcharts say otherwise

[random laurel]

why are you refusing the truth lol

im reading the stats right now

https://steamdb.info/app/2016590/charts/#3m

[dire anvil]

I am literally presenting a counter arguement by https://steamcharts.com/app/2016590 showing you the stats on steamcharts

[random laurel]

yea that site also say im right, i guess you cant read

[dire anvil]

No it literally doesnt wtf is wrong with you, it legit shows a 33% gain from sept > oct lmao

[neat frigate]

the averages are wrong. Click on the graph.

[random laurel]

look at the graph, sort by 23 sept, player count only decrease, by a lot

[neat frigate]

you are also using the data wrong. October will have higher average, considering the wipe happened at the end of september

[final monolith]

what caused the big player drop was patch 69, when they removed all the random stats from gear and added druid

we had 30k before those events

[random laurel]

for sure it did went further downhill from that moment

[final monolith]

patch 68 we had 30k, i remember, i was there

good times

[dire anvil]

Yes, because the argument was "it died after a month" which isnt the case, after oct it did go down not denying that

[random laurel]

twisting words to make sure you're right, are you american by any chance

[dire anvil]

I swear to god, reading is difficult, I wasnt ev en responding to you - like i beg you take a step back and just be silent when I wasnt even initially responding to your claim

[cyan monolith]

yea im american, and what?

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[daring mortar]

holy still no word about wipe???? @hexed adder

[cyan monolith]

?

[bleak coyote]

Start at the front and go towards the back

[random laurel]

wipe is cancelled

[cyan monolith]

w

[daring mortar]

might as well be if we dont get content and im starting to think we're not with the silence from ironmace

[cyan monolith]

you not being able to stay up to date isnt ironmaces fault

[daring mortar]

let your jaws rest bud, they dont care about you, and their hasnt been 1 thing said but " hey we gonna wipe on the 29th"

[cyan monolith]

theres been plenty said

once again not their fault u cant bother to stay up to date

[daring mortar]

not 1 thing you mentaly challenged child

[drifting scaffold]

me when i don't read 😎 (i'm blind)

[cyan monolith]

and im calling wardens

[daring mortar]

good

[cyan monolith]

u broke my heart

[daring mortar]

@granite surge did they say when they are doing the QnA?

[upbeat tapir]

Where did they announce the wipe information?

[dire anvil]

Tbf they didnt say jack shit yet lmao only "wipe 29th" thats it nothing else

[cyan monolith]

riiiight

[upbeat tapir]

Classic. Still hyped.

[still agate]

They didnt really announce anything but the new season starting 29th

[dire anvil]

Well? Where is the info then, or you just gonna spout nonsense?

[daring mortar]

yeah they just like to suckle on ironmace at the chance they will notice him

[dire anvil]

All greysun said sorry for the silence, info coming soon or something along those lines - literally all we heard

[cyan monolith]

#sdfs-kitchen , also look at messages by graysun and chyunkus

[upbeat tapir]

This is a truly unique game and there isnt really anything else like it - nothing wrong with gamers hoping for IM’s success.

[cyan monolith]

they said a lot

[still agate]

Thats not announcements bruh

[daring mortar]

only thing said and hes replying to a chat from before last wipe LMAO

[still agate]

chatting

[cyan monolith]

notice me? whats with u and attention. why would i give a fuck if ironmace notices me or not

[dire anvil]

????? they didnt say ANYTHING in there what are you smoking, thats just sdf talking about random shit related to the game, not specifically whats coming

[daring mortar]

do you think i care about you?

[upbeat tapir]

The irony of two guys arguing, one with a cat PFP and one with a dog PFP

[cyan monolith]

obv you do since ur having a conversation with me rn

[dire anvil]

Chyunkus posting a volcano emote isnt "info"

[cyan monolith]

yeah dont ask for proof if ur not gonna read it, he says multiple thigs planned for next season in that channel

[daring mortar]

if it was a new map they would hype it up but theirs been silence.

[cyan monolith]

wait this chat is a waste of time. im leaving. Im free 🥹

[dire anvil]

🤦‍♂️

[still agate]

I think they arent giving us a wipe plan because they might not be able to finish said plan in time tbh

[cyan monolith]

life after i realise im not forced to give ignorant people my time:

[daring mortar]

why give us a date lmao

[dire anvil]

Him talking on his own and stuff actually being in the patch are two entirely different things my guy, same as him saying "yeah we want gathering hall" and then "yeah sorry we wont make it"

[viral oracle]

idk if a whipe has have been completed in the time they said it would be

[daring mortar]

graysun is online but he doesnt communicate worth af.

[still agate]

Date is set yeah, but theyll try to finish content plans before they announce them i think

Better than announce something and not deliver

[daring mortar]

youd think they would have everything done before saying anything about a wipe

[still agate]

Nah they have never done that xD

[bleak coyote]

to be fair, it's like midnight in korea. Just because he's on, doesn't mean he's on.

but they should have communicated proper ages ago

[daring mortar]

oh i know

[misty grail]

@hexed adder why no communication

[granite surge]

i dont believe so

[misty grail]

seems lowkey pretty important for a game thats dying

[daring mortar]

never has been, its why alot of ppl quit the game.

[scarlet stirrup]

No

[daring mortar]

thx

[misty grail]

i know, ive been around for far too long

[dire anvil]

The communication has always been shit with IM sadly yeah

[daring mortar]

why do they tell streamers whats coming but not the community?

[cyan monolith]

i wonder 🤔

[daring mortar]

your obsessed with me

[balmy patrol]

when will be the next wipe?

[neat mesa]

January 29th!

[misty grail]

it just seems so unnecessary like is it a cultural thing, how hard is it to say hwats going on

[formal plaza]

cool deal

[crimson vigil]

Playing D&D in the big 26

[gusty pollen]

Most likely because you are not worth their time to speak to, like every other scrub player. hehe

[scenic dawn]

Yo who tf is artyyboyyttv you in here fam

[fossil folio]

yo is warlock still valid this season ?

[scenic dawn]

Everything is valid

[gusty pollen]

Druid is the best though, all the others suck for this season

[misty grail]

theres like 3 players left, they have the time

[fossil folio]

really i hate the change with the limited phase shapeshift

[scenic dawn]

I mean if you’re talking about solos yeah Druid is pretty much the best

[fossil folio]

is it normal that i suck with 200 hours or am i just slow XD

[warped kernel]

naah thats perfectly normal, after 500hr pvp starts

[honest garnet]

I have 3k and I still die to mobs sometimes ur good lol

[fossil folio]

thanks i was not that bad at sourcerer relaease because i was up to date and now i come back and the game flips about 360 degresse if you know what i mean XD

sorcerer release was just fun with how buged he was

[honest garnet]

100%

[warped kernel]

haha ye the double proc on the lightning cloud was wild

[lofty belfry]

I think you just get a feel for the game at this point lol

[misty grail]

anyone know how much kum claws cost, i havent seen a single one in trade chat

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[gusty pollen]

Me thinks you posted this in the wrong channel?
Post it here. https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1048815263467966565

[shy linden]

a barb can still run 330ms w northen armor wow

[drifting scaffold]

yea rage exists

[shy linden]

yea doesnt mind to play rogue cause ms has all characters by then 🙂 starter pack 200 hp 330ms rage

[drifting scaffold]

except his is on a cooldown

[shy linden]

if he run like 330 ms doesnt need to cooldown cause you cant run .)

[drifting scaffold]

wdym you let him get close

[shy linden]

nope he run like a horse just it

[drifting scaffold]

lmfao

[shy linden]

i was running 319 ms rogue

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[drifting scaffold]

he had at least 309 to be running at 330 with rage popped

[shy linden]

you can have 309 ms on barb 🙂 no counter play so i need to kill him like perfect play other wise one mistake kill me

[charred plover]

why move expressman

[drifting scaffold]

yea ? sounds like you got diffed 2 ways 🤣 gear and matchup

[shy linden]

🙂 yea balance class

[drifting scaffold]

i aim for 310 mspeed on fighter

ur playing rogue bro just double jump over his head

[shy linden]

🙂 you dont even see the gameplay thx man fighter and barb mains no brain i guess pdr barb 200 hp can run like 330 ms and you still say double jump wow

[drifting scaffold]

🧠 a brain would mean u play around somebody's 2 skills they have lol like playing fighter and recognizing they're running reckless

or playing rogue and baiting rage

[shy linden]

i baiting i was running behind he catch me 🙂 im sorry i need to take some hp on rogue so i was slow a little bit

319 ms 🙂 dex vigor build

[drifting scaffold]

solos working as intended 🤣 matchup diffed

[shy linden]

yea one shot from warlock one shot from bonk wiz 330 ms barb - pdr fighhter why we need to play rogue then i dont like to hide thats the point ? if i dont have agility diffrence whats the point play rogue

[drifting scaffold]

sorry wait so you chose to run no hide rogue and don't have 330 mspeed? i think u griefed urself tbh

[atomic schooner]

is that some bonk wiz complaining i see :D

[drifting scaffold]

idk how you do anything on no hide rogue without max movespeed fists at least

[shy linden]

i play bonk to its good all i was say even the hide rogue was broken ik so many rats but atleast give us some on no hide rogue balance

[atomic schooner]

dodge everything

[drifting scaffold]

my best matrix work

[misty grail]

got pretty much one tapped by illu and arcane shield at 160 hp lmao

[shy linden]

dosent need illu

[gaunt oracle]

the current problem with reds is people using them to rat gear out from fights too efficiently. if the expressman and down portals wheren't intertwined, red portals could stay open 24/7 for people wanting to go down without the rats being empowered to rat

[charred plover]

wouldnt that make every expressman just have a hide rogue next to him every time

[gaunt oracle]

maybe. but then they aren't hiding at the red portal (which is also the expressman). they have to choose

they also have to FIGHT for the gear then. if they want to ambush at expressman

[drifting scaffold]

yes, they would also camp red portals even harder lol

[charred plover]

tbh i feel like if red portal/stair just had a very long opening interaction like the bridge on ruins it would be better

just remove all the rat classes from the game atp and leave all as is

[misty grail]

red portals need to be interactable, should take a few seconds

[atomic schooner]

make expressman roam the dungeon and problem solved

[misty grail]

should also illumitate invis players within a coulpe feet

[gaunt oracle]

the comment you replied to also included that option

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[charred plover]

didnt see the 'or' mb

[gaunt oracle]

the problem is the rats, and there are many possible solves. I feel like the pipeline from dead body to safely extracted loot is too simple right now. any added complexity would be an improvement

[misty grail]

if you queue druid into solos iron mace takes your pc with their anti cheat and uses it for bitcoin mining

[brave cove]

Like this

[charred plover]

maybe for the extra few bucks earned they'd hire someone to fix the inventory bug

[placid tangle]

Bonkbarian is goat

[lofty belfry]

the only class queing anything lol

[misty grail]

it would be a lot of money

[placid tangle]

I prefer trio lobby’s no fill druid queue

[charred plover]

how much rep do i need with a merchant for squire to give me white armor and not gray

[upper horizon]

is it possible to create endgame content for dark and darker-change my mind https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1058379012105318510

[exotic seal]

A question and a statement

[upper horizon]

wanna talk about it

[exotic seal]

How do we change your mind if you're asking an opinion

[unique token]

[gusty pollen]

What would you like to change?

[misty grail]

update us on arena please, pls no hardcore

[lost plover]

What if we don't want to?

[finite flicker]

Vincent doesn't want to play this game anymore.

Procrastinate all you want till the game dies

[unique token]

[drifting scaffold]

i wanna say 50 or 75 you should have all Common

[charred plover]

what a pain

[drifting scaffold]

its like 3 rep quests

[charred plover]

so like 9 quests no?

"alright now bring me vomit"

[misty grail]

havent done a single quest this wipe way too many fetch quests

[drifting scaffold]

lfmao

[fossil folio]

is it normal that i have so much fps drops on the new map ?

on goblin cave play the game at a 120 fps but on the new map its so laggy

[slow ivy]

They have an ongoing problem with optimization.

[drifting scaffold]

9 of the easiest quests you'll get lol the later ones are harder but the early ones you can knock out in 20-30 min for all the vendors

[fossil folio]

oh okay but there is nothing i can do or is there ?

[granite lark]

Just say your bad at the game

[granite lark]

Set graphics quality to low. Turn off cloth simulation. Cap fram rates at 120

[dire anvil]

Not doing any quests sure is a choice

[fossil folio]

okay i have done all beside the frame rate i have it at 144 because i have 144hz

[granite lark]

Yea same but I have to drop it 60 to not lag on my shitty 1070 lol

[fossil folio]

my 1060 6gb is in flames XD

and with the i7 6700k its just burning

[granite lark]

Yea bro drop to 60 lol. And drop ur resolution. Game won't lag

[misty grail]

lmao cause going and collecting 15 dark fabrics is the epitome of skill

[fossil folio]

i play on 1920 to 1080 should i set it even lower ?

[leaden crag]

How do we know they are dropping the space map? Did SDF comment in someone’s twitch chat about it?

[fossil folio]

render scale is also at 50%

[drifting scaffold]

this coming wipe? not likely

[honest garnet]

But you have more weapon reach the higher your fps

[leaden crag]

why is everyone talking about it then

[dire anvil]

Because ppl like to gossip

[honest garnet]

Cause he mentioned he wanted to make a space map = coming next month lmao

[drifting scaffold]

these devs are always talking in like 9-12 months for future stuff but it never stops ppl from thinking they mean imminent 😅

[granite lark]

I lag really bad on max resolution in regular game. Arena is better at least

[fossil folio]

on goblin cave and other it is okay but on the new map its really laggy

[misty ridge]

Dark and Darker from what I've heard is a CPU dependent game

I play at a consistent 120 fps with jumps up to 240 on 1920x1080p with a Ryzen 7 5700X3D + RX 6750 XT

[misty grail]

i get 400 fps staring at the floor

[kind cave]

I have a prebilt Laptop from Walmart, and a mouse that goes haywire, and I'm still demigod with exactly 3 kills under my belt

All druids

[fossil folio]

is there any good launch option for dnd ?

[misty ridge]

Make you sure you disable Fullscreen Optimizations

By going to the properties of the EXE file

[fossil folio]

does that drain that many frames or why ?

[misty ridge]

I've heard people talk about it doubling their frame rate

Including a guy I trust so it's def worth it

[fossil folio]

aight i try it anything else ?

[misty ridge]

I do it automatically for most my games so I don't have a frame of reference for my own system

[fossil folio]

what is the exactly exe file because i see Tavern and Tavern Dart and more XD

nvm i found it

[winged citrus]

really hope they remove ranger backstep on water map @proud copper would make sense afterall.

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow, go back to random red portal spawns, or move the expressman from the waiting area to the actual dungeon
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[queen torrent]

you should just watch a windows optimization guide, i can dm you a good one if interested

[fossil folio]

i think i have my windows optimatied but i would take a guide

but i play on win10 XD

[queen torrent]

i gotchu lemme find this guide i used to use

[bleak coyote]

TL;DR; Remove the dungeon and just turn everyone into loot piñatas