the-tavern

[tawdry heron]

You have not played rust i'm guessing 😄

Rust has had weekly updates from 2014 to 2018 and then switched to monthly updates up till now

so in the whole 8 years of monthly updates they delayed one

while dark and darker is delaying everything everytime

[placid tangle]

Rust is not stable

[drifting scaffold]

😭 😭

[placid tangle]

They banned tibo tryhard a year ago

[tawdry heron]

?

[drifting scaffold]

such bullshit bro you are pulling this out your ass hahahah by this measure you should be looking at dark’s weekly/biweekly patches

[placid tangle]

We talking stable in updates? Or stable as in good working servers and mechanics? Cuz those are ahh

[tawdry heron]

5000 Hours on rust been playing since 2018 i think i know what i'm talking about

[placid tangle]

Why do 4k players always wanna look tuff and say they have 5k

[tawdry heron]

800 hours on cracked version of rust

i'm counting that

[placid tangle]

Cracked rust?

[tawdry heron]

and i have an alt so probably more than 5000

Pirated version of rust

[placid tangle]

I have 6 alt, 4 is banned

[tawdry heron]

pathetic lol you're cheating

[placid tangle]

U can play online on cracked games?

[placid tangle]

No my hwid is banned

[tawdry heron]

ever heard of private serv ?

People pirate the game and create their own servers for the pirated version

the non pirated people can play on those as well

[placid tangle]

I got banned for modyfing files

[tawdry heron]

ah yes totally not cheating

[placid tangle]

Im not cheat lol

[drifting scaffold]

this convo made me lose brain cells

[warped lintel]

same

[placid tangle]

You can bypass certain settings in the files to gain advantage to others, this would be exploiting and not cheating lol

[tawdry heron]

You don't have any to lose

[placid tangle]

Ah and the DLS unlock tool maybe aswell

[tired dove]

@quaint carbon is wrong tbh

[placid tangle]

But idc rust is bad

[tawdry heron]

This guy comes in without having played the game pulling info from his ass

[drifting scaffold]

you wanna criticize ironmace for being slow, uncommunicative whatever lmfao but to use rust, a game which is notoriously awfully broken for a LONG time and facepunch as the gold standard? Bruh we’re lost

[slate hawk]

Let's stay respectful of other people, folks 🙂

[brisk walrus]

the game is bad so i bought 6 copies

[placid tangle]

I have 8k hours lol

[tawdry heron]

not talking about you chief

[placid tangle]

What is ironmace bro

[tawdry heron]

Broken? In what way please tell me :DDD I've been playing it for 8 years and have not seen the "Broken" part of rust yet

[placid tangle]

Yea its normal that my teamates reset himself on top of the base that im locked in and then pushes a body with loot true the roof

Its just rust

[brisk walrus]

it puts the lotion on its skin

[placid tangle]

Or my mini exploding mid air for no reason

[brisk walrus]

yeah that's a menu option

[tawdry heron]

Pretty sure we're not playing the same game

[brisk walrus]

you are, just ignorant of hacking menus

doesn't mean it's broken though you're right

[drifting scaffold]

how about in those 8 years you’ve been playing, how many times has the meta shifted meaningfully? since its released I’ve played maybe 3-4 separate stretches and the meta has always been exactly the same, very boring

[placid tangle]

No hacking in rust, only exploiting and scripting

[tawdry heron]

the meta shifted 5 months ago ?

[placid tangle]

Ur tweaking

[drifting scaffold]

don’t get me started on the aks to the dome from halfway across the map man 😭

[tawdry heron]

Yeah you just showed me that you haven't played this game and are pulling info straight from your ahh

[warm fable]

I still don't get how is that a meme
#dnd-memes-only message

[drifting scaffold]

oh great so games been out 12 years meta shifted once 5 months back? Hahahahahaha

[placid tangle]

Since late 2025 they meta shift every month

[drifting scaffold]

🤣

[tawdry heron]

Like talking to a brick wall

[drifting scaffold]

I asked how many times

[tawdry heron]

I think there is internet for that

[subtle rose]

Don't be mean to bricks, they are smarter than quinn

[drifting scaffold]

ok so you can’t say yourself based on your experience?

[wise valve]

☕

[tawdry heron]

Yes let me remember every single meta shift in 8 YEARS of gameplay

[placid tangle]

Based on my experience a whole 2 times but its okay because its rust and rust is just rust

[tawdry heron]

Quick google search explains it perfectly but I guess brick walls can't use google

[drifting scaffold]

bro I’m not asking for a scientific answer I’m asking you YOUR experience

im not interested in what google says lmfao

[tawdry heron]

This guy might be ill

[drifting scaffold]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[placid tangle]

Rust makes me ill

18 man deep on enardo 10x one grid last year

[tawdry heron]

It's funny how people like you even exist on this planet

Sharing one braincell with all the brick walls in the world

[placid tangle]

Whats a brick wall

[drifting scaffold]

yeah somebody who wants you to defend a point you made that sounds crazy to me i must be the dumbest brick wall on the planet

[placid tangle]

I think its a wall of bricks

Brick wall dont exist

[drifting scaffold]

no we’re just in the tavern where u say shit and never expect to get checked

[placid tangle]

[granite surge]

Morning everyone

[placid tangle]

Its midnight

[granite surge]

Well good day/night/evening/morning everyone 🙂

[placid tangle]

Morning was 31 minutes ago

[placid tangle]

Hi men

[hybrid sequoia]

if we had these same conversations in actual british tavern, we'd all be in jail

[placid tangle]

No, british cops are a joke

[hybrid sequoia]

yes, but having opinion that isn't government sanctioned is a capital offense there

[warm fable]

Hi
Graysun has spoken today

[granite surge]

[placid tangle]

Why is this sun gray

[warm fable]

[placid tangle]

Thats peter

[tired dove]

lmao look at @quaint carbon

[warm fable]

🫛 🥲 🐦

[placid tangle]

Is it bannable to have kinda offsenive name in dad

I dont wanna delete my barb

[warm fable]

I think it is

[placid tangle]

😔

Can i change the names

[warm fable]

Cant you change name or something?

[placid tangle]

I dont know i am noob

[warm fable]

I think you have to pay with red shards

[placid tangle]

Im poor

When i make this character some random german told me to name it that but i dont speak german

[atomic schooner]

It depends on the name. Stuff thats like really offensive will prob get you either a name reset or a ban. Am not 100% sure on how they deal with bad names tho

[warped lintel]

I know you're a proud gooner but I don't think Thornrock wants that kind of attention from you

[void lichen]

when is it wipe?

[atomic schooner]

You can only change account name. Character name you have to delete and remake if you want to change it

[atomic schooner]

29th

[placid tangle]

Its like lick me ass in german

[void lichen]

januar?

[placid tangle]

Yesterday

[warm fable]

@placid tangle you should ask devs for change character name option

[atomic schooner]

I dont think thats that bad. Ive seen worse in game

[atomic schooner]

Yup. 29th this month aslong as they do t delay it

[placid tangle]

Also it wouldnt allow me to put knight in my name

[scenic dawn]

its cuz theres 3 letters there that they wont let you have next to eachother

[keen zephyr]

[coarse star]

Yeah i cant name my characters touchgrass

[scenic dawn]

my friends actual gamer name he has had forever is nightcaster and he cant name his dark character that lol

[scenic dawn]

skill diff

killed some streamer last night his name was something like sickyboyttv but it wasnt sicky it was something else that sounds similar, anyone know who?

[reef sentinel]

is that because there is not a lot to tease, because of legal etc? Trying to work out if this is good or bad

[stoic basin]

Another day, another day closer to wipe

[drifting scaffold]

there's only like a 5% chance that a ttv name in this game actively streams

[scenic dawn]

trueee

[vale oar]

[uncut wigeon]

more like another day closer to a dead wipe but yea

[turbid elbow]

get us hyped for next season boys, expand on 🌋, thanks

[supple drift]

Ironmace... I'm watching you... Don't make another disappointment nor delay...

If you do... Ima crash really hard. Like throwing a glass jar of peanut butter to the floor.

[pure sinew]

why does longbow not have any drop in the water

[atomic schooner]

[grim walrus]

when is next wipe?

[empty halo]

WHERE NEWS

[uneven fulcrum]

True shot

[gaunt oracle]

permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming

[final jasper]

Good morning fellow adventurers

[warm fable]

hi

[supple drift]

[slate jolt]

[supple drift]

[scenic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rolie-polie-olie-detective-looking-search-magnifying-glass-gif-1369510893156232417

[slate jolt]

[idle mauve]

Your a warden for DaD now👀

[warm fable]

yo guys what is better(more op) double jump or backstep

[drifting scaffold]

personally i think backstep but somebody out here has gotten owned by double jump will say opposite

[keen zephyr]

29th January as per latest #📢announcements

[scenic dawn]

what is the scribe role in this discord?

[pure wigeon]

multi classing will revive the game btw

[scenic dawn]

w rage bait

[fallen crypt]

they used to write out stuff for the patch notes

i haven’t seen that in like years tho so couldn’t tell you

[scenic dawn]

really thats quite the role

[lone basin]

how much are claws worth rn?

[granite surge]

if i recall correctly, they help translate the game into other languages that the game supports.

[scenic dawn]

oh ok that seems more purposeful

[gaunt oracle]

bat claw? yeti claw? wyvern claw? kuma's claw?

[lone basin]

Kumas

[gaunt oracle]

only recent one I see on has 1 wep dam and 2 other rolls for 2db

[tulip isle]

Remove druid

[lone basin]

also, hi ape

[lone basin]

where is that?

[gaunt oracle]

collectors guild

[gaunt oracle]

lol I didnt even realize hwo I was replying to. lol suh dood\

[delicate ibex]

[wet canopy]

Hi can someone tell me the price of the stingray egg ?

[sudden hatch]

like 8 full chests last i heard

[lapis birch]

How is my goated game coming along?

[woven widget]

50g

[flint ravine]

Can’t wait for the game to wipe only for the lobbies to be dead because everyone is in pve hr

[charred plover]

theres pve hr?

[quaint dagger]

yeapp

[charred plover]

that doesnt sound like it makes sense very much

whats the catch

[quaint dagger]

it doesn't, the loot is slightly worse that's it

[tulip isle]

It doesn't really make sense but nothing sdf does makes sense

[mild nova]

you lose gear on death, unlike normal pve

for pve'ers who want to experience nightmare mobs without pvp

[charred plover]

so other than that i can just go in with virtually 0 risk and get free ap?

[mild nova]

ap is less, and you can lose ap if you die

[quaint dagger]

you can do that in regular high roller by spending 100g entry, practically no loss of ap on death

[charred plover]

as in lose more than the 10 ap u normally lose?

[mild nova]

just the normal 10

[charred plover]

a

[charred plover]

yeah ik still kinda crazy tho that someone thought its a good idea seeing how hr is THE intended mode im pretty sure

would work pretty well probably if no the fact that this game is not in to shape playercount wise

pretty much just pulling ppl away from the part of the game that keeps it alive

all that but allowing solos and duos on normals is too much to ask for

[quaint dagger]

oh no i agree it was a terrible decision lets PVE players never learn a core aspect of the game which is PVP if they want better more rewarding loot

[hazy hawk]

@rancid bane Do you know that one pregnant guy?

[quaint dagger]

legit had a guy self reporting in the chat the other day that he avoids pvp and plays the dead maps/queues but still calls the lobbies dead

[pale raft]

I won't lie learning this game is a nightmare and if there's nothing for new players there won't be many even trying to learn the game

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[rancid bane]

I know of him, who he is a co-volunteer for this server like me 🙂

[quaint dagger]

play normal pve then build up to learning the game like the rest of us did simple as really

[hazy hawk]

Oh, you are too?!

[rancid bane]

I am a discord mod for this server 😄

[rancid bane]

nice edit lol xD

[pale raft]

I played when it was only PvP and I got shit on so much that wasn't a learning environment 😭 but I played and slowly got better I agree it sucks there's different queues but if there's nothing where for people to learn nightmare stuff they won't wana play PvP and die to some rats while tryna learn

[slim scroll]

HR PVE mode rewards like half the AP of normal HR, and doesn’t drop artifacts.

[pale raft]

New players have a lot of gear fear and don't wana loose anything so u gotta encourage them to enjoy the game or they will spend all there time killing goblins coz it's safe 😭

[quaint dagger]

don't think people hate the mode because of that but sure

[slim scroll]

Too many veteran players who just want to pubstomb Timmies, I for one am glad there’s a safe space for new players to learn in

[pale raft]

Tbf even if they did the gear score thing agin for pve where above a point u get nightmare mobs so it will limit multiple queues

[tulip isle]

Just the usual catering to timmies and making the game less of what it was

[quaint dagger]

i mean tbh i think it's doing the opposite cos whenever a pve player talks in here it's clear they dont want to do anything else besides that, they never adapt and move on

[drifting scaffold]

you gotta cater to timmy at least a little. game has been out for almost 3 years now, brand new players get stomped lmfao

[slim scroll]

I’ve spoken to a few new players in the last week and oddly enough, each one of them appreciated PVE as it helped them learn enough to join norms and so on without feeling overwhelmed by players who cross the map at Mach10 right for their spawn

[tulip isle]

You got PvE mode, squire mode, norms, that's enough

[quaint dagger]

[tulip isle]

Too much already pve should never be a thing

[pale raft]

The skill difference is massive and there's not many good guides out there so u gotta learn youself and there's not much feedback to how u did in a game u gotta just slowly feel it out

[drifting scaffold]

yeah, it's the non-pvpers that necessitated hr pve. not timmy

[tulip isle]

non pvpers in a PvPvE game

[quaint dagger]

timmys didn't say oo i really wanna do more in pve

[slim scroll]

As for the PVE’rs who never move on, so what if that’s the case? They are still enjoying the game, supporting it, and if PVE was removed they’d enjoy it less and maybe stop playing

[drifting scaffold]

well they exist lol. can't say I understand them much (pve gets boring to me) but they do exist

[tulip isle]

Pvp is a core part of the game and the reason it was successful, if this game was just PvE Dungeoncrawler with the same 3 basic skellies everyone woulda quit after a week

[drifting scaffold]

yeah thank goodness it's not just pve dungeon crawler

[slim scroll]

The idea that if we cut queues in half the dungeon will seem more populated is always funny to me cause in reality those players just would not play anymore (like when we removed solos and duos)

[quaint dagger]

we're arguing that there shouldn't be a loot equivalent safe space at the higher end

[slim scroll]

There isn’t, is there?

[drifting scaffold]

thankfully it doesn't seem the devs think that either

[quaint dagger]

i can loot the pile on pve HR and get 1400 gold in collectables, non pve HR i get 1500 if i'm lucky

[drifting scaffold]

what?

[quaint dagger]

i've actually pulled better gear loot from the pve HR pile

[quaint carbon]

buff penguin

[valid moss]

pls wipe the server alrdy...

[slim scroll]

It’s like half AP and 0 artifacts, and there’s plenty of ways to farm gold in game. I can farm non HR pile in norms for average 1200 so not a big deal

[drifting scaffold]

that's crazy lol it's no where near that. HR you can actually get uniques

[slim scroll]

Certainly not one of the more pressing matters in development at least

[drifting scaffold]

HR pve you literally cannot loot uniques at all of anything

[quaint dagger]

Demi-god is practically free as it is with the negligent ap loss there's a terrible argument

[valid moss]

in ice caves for HR i make about 3k per run

[slim scroll]

Wrong, I tried farming Demi in PVE it’s literally like half AP, not worth

The AP grind in general right now is easy tho, not PVE fault tho

[quaint dagger]

the chance of getting uniques is disgustingly low as seen by content creators testing pile pulls

[valid moss]

thats including frostone ore

[quaint dagger]

i'm saying demi-god is practically free in high roller so who would farm pve high roller for demi ...

[valid moss]

it took me a week to get demigod in hr as a new player...

[slim scroll]

So, your complaint then is that you get 1400 from HR PVE pile, and that’s it?

[drifting scaffold]

it's not

[strange thicket]

I am trying to make a funny build what blood pact fists scale with does anybody know?

[quaint dagger]

gotta do dragon for that and most timmies wont attempt it in fairness

[valid moss]

yeah i know

[drifting scaffold]

also if you're ONLY pulling pile you're losing

[quaint dagger]

no my point is why would i risk going into high roller pvp when i can farm ideally the same loot with far less risk

[drifting scaffold]

it's no where NEAR the same loot though lmfao

[quaint dagger]

that shouldn't be a thing

[slim scroll]

No uniques/artifacts

[valid moss]

i think most new players just play s2r or do that casually

or pve mode. i think may not have time for HR

[drifting scaffold]

it's straight up like handicapping yourself -200 luck playing in HR pve vs HR pvp

[vapid mesa]

Anyone got a active guild server I have 6k hrs and i just want friends

[quaint dagger]

whoops i forgot to add into account the unique elkwood crown i might get LMAO

woah insane

[tulip isle]

Yeah this PvE mode would be fine as a pure learning mode with only white loot where ppl can spend their first 10 hours to get a basic feel.
Not as something people with gear fear and 3000 hours grind all day and never get into the real game

[drifting scaffold]

yea nobody's gonna be able to convince you keep playing sisyphus simulator in HR pve 🤣

[slim scroll]

HR PvE takes nothing away from the experience of those who play otherwise, I see no reason to complain about it. It’s less AP, less value, and helps timmies learn better. I think it’s in a good spot

[tulip isle]

It just enables people to never move out of it

[strange thicket]

I am trying to make a funny build what blood pact fists scale with does anybody know?

[quaint dagger]

who be playing HR pve HUH

[drifting scaffold]

we haven't even touched on the immense value another player's kit brings to HR PVP

[vapid mesa]

strength and tru phys

tbh magic heal

[slim scroll]

Brother people who only play PVE will just leave the game if that happens lol, some people enjoy the game as a dungeon crawler and not a battle royale

[drifting scaffold]

wait you're arguing this much FOR hr pve and u don't evne play it? omg

[valid moss]

i think they should remove the non hr adventure mode, theres just too many gamemodes for such a low player count

[vapid mesa]

blood pact is more abt substain more then dmg

[slim scroll]

Wild

[valid moss]

not only that norm blues...

[quaint dagger]

I paly regular high roller i said pve high roller should be nerfed for loot or gone period

[valid moss]

it doesnt even pop half the time. and it takes away from the true endgame which to me is HR

[slim scroll]

Nahhh it’s good where it’s at

[drifting scaffold]

yeah but how can we even take you seriously when you don't know how the loot in HR Pve is??

[slim scroll]

You can get 1200 from a normal pile 1500 isn’t big

[drifting scaffold]

it sucks !!! 🤣 it's terrible for looting. hell squire to riches is better

[quaint dagger]

i boss farm and loot the pile every day ...

[slim scroll]

Uhhh

[strange thicket]

is blood pact scale with anything?

[drifting scaffold]

???? god this is confusing lmfao

[slim scroll]

I’m so confused 😭

[valid moss]

feel like most miss out on the true experiences that comes from hr trios, duos, solos etc ngl

[exotic seal]

Gm bud 🫂

[slim scroll]

ALL I KNOW: ppl who don’t even play PVE be spending too much time thinking about it,
Players who don’t wanna play battle royale will simply leave game if you remove HR PVE, and realistically it’s no different than changing your server for easy loot in off-hours, which ppl do all the time

[tulip isle]

Nah a good amount would just play the normal game cause they're using over to farm for arena

[drifting scaffold]

gm 🫂

[tulip isle]

Hence more people in the dungeons

[quaint dagger]

If it was like tarkov and it was a different marketplace sure

[valid moss]

IDK i last played this game in 2022 for playtest and after returning i was so shocked that there was this many gamemodes...the game sure has changed a whole lot..

[slim scroll]

Yea I mean I’m not mad if someone pulls a Bis Legendary in PVE, cause I can get artifacts and uniques

[quaint dagger]

i'm not mad either you're just missing the point it's fine

[valid moss]

:/ and now if you q hr duos most of the time its just rats same for trios

rogue, druids, battle of who can scoop the body the quickest its so sad

[drifting scaffold]

nobody missing the point we just totally disagree with you lol

[stoic basin]

Remove smoke pot lol, so annoying to kill a team and then have rogues throw it down to loot the bodies

[tulip isle]

I'm not mad about it I just don't think it fits in the game with the current way it is.

[sick iron]

So when is wipe supposed to happen?

[native robin]

This rat shi is so bad for the game and its why 1.5k are playing it

[tulip isle]

And it's not like the game gained a ton of new players with PvE mode, so why would they leave again. It's just people who played norms avoiding PvE playing the next easiest thing

[quaint dagger]

clearly

[native robin]

this game blows

[valid moss]

the 29th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[slim scroll]

lol you’re wild, chill out. Wasn’t using “mad” to say you’re frothing or something XD

[exotic seal]

Make druid sit for wild charges 🗣️

[valid moss]

15 MORE DAYS UNTIL WIPE

[quaint dagger]

i will admit it is funny when pve players try bring that friendly nonsense into regular matches though

[sick iron]

Nah that’s the realest thing I ever heard

[valid moss]

nerf druid to the ground.....

[stoic basin]

Not even nerf, it needs a whole rework

[quaint dagger]

wouldn't even be mad at that

[sick iron]

To add on to that. Make it the same for rogues

[exotic seal]

Double wizard fireball count 🗣️

[sick iron]

This guy knows what’s up.

[drifting scaffold]

give wizard nuke spell

[quaint dagger]

okay well that's cooked

[valid moss]

serioulsy do we not realize being able to instantly change to panther, chicken, etc was not going to be an issue...

buff bard 😆

[slim scroll]

Iiiii see

[valid moss]

(jk bard is fine)

[stoic basin]

Who’s down for some hr, I need juicers

[sick iron]

Fair, shape shift mastery is a problem. But the charge idea is pretty good imo.

[quaint dagger]

took us too long to realise

[valid moss]

yeah .-.

[slim scroll]

The only change I would make as it stands for PVE, is banning PVE items from SSF Arena, that would make sense. Cause it should not be arena farm

That is only problem I see with it

[sick iron]

+1

[drifting scaffold]

idk i don't see much point to that unless you make ssf crafting mats -> ssf crafted gear?

[slim scroll]

It should be Timmy safe space

[valid moss]

timmy safe place 😭

[sick iron]

PVE should be PVE items only and PVP should be PVP items only. PVE should definitely be treated as a playpen for new players to learn modules and attack patterns.

[slim scroll]

Hmm. That’s tough.

[slim scroll]

How different is it for player to go PVE and mine cobalt than switch to Indonesia server and mine cobalt?

Nobody there, free craftables

[quaint dagger]

people mine cobalt

aint no way

[drifting scaffold]

oh I was thinking more about just buying crafting mats off market

[slim scroll]

Hmmmmm

I’d just reduce all drop rates for craftables in half XD idk what else to do other than split up the market entirely like that one salivating timmy killer was talking about

[quaint dagger]

This is chill if ironmace could implement something fast enough but no point

[drifting scaffold]

well they already do that in the pve mode I guess if you restrict ssf for pve mode, they would just farm gold and craft. aside from doing a full split with pve/pvp items idk how to further reduce the "contamination"

[drifting scaffold]

this is a little too dnagerous for us rn. it would be like splitting the whole game in two lol

[quaint dagger]

i love killing the china based players they're my favourite

[sick iron]

True true.

[drifting scaffold]

idk i feel like ppl who use pve as pure gold farm are already at enough disadvantage

[quaint dagger]

seen plenty of them they stink

[slim scroll]

Let’s talk about the real problem with dark and darker: NERF DARK BOLT

I feel like too few people realize how OP warlock is allowed to be in SQUIRE GEAR

[quaint dagger]

why we talking about squire gear man snooze

[drifting scaffold]

it's a fun mode to play when you're bored of running solo

[slim scroll]

Just listen and you will understand

[quaint dagger]

just dodge the dark bolt man, the hit box is ass stand near a torch or wall

[drifting scaffold]

block it

[quaint dagger]

[drifting scaffold]

i found out this wipe that parry can block spells

[quaint dagger]

good on ya lad

[drifting scaffold]

game changer

[slim scroll]

+99% dark damage from soul collector,
+20% Dark enhancement,
+75% from headshot, 80 damage dark bolts in SQUIRE GEAR

Characters without shields suffer the most, I’ve been killing juiced Druids like this repeatedly

As for dodging, it is most effective when the enemy runs away after losing melee engagement, back of head

[quaint dagger]

if they balance the game around squire gear more just let the game die already

[slim scroll]

Squire lock should not have any utility that strong.

That would not be balancing game around squire gear, that would simply be balancing game

Squireloc should not have 80+ damage projectiles its that simple

And I say this as a lock devotee

[quaint dagger]

i've not seen a single comment besides yours where someone complained about dark bolt in general

not for the last two wipes

[slim scroll]

That is because I have not seen a single other soul doing this other than maybe Darkner

[quaint dagger]

cos no one cares about squire im sorry dude

[stoic basin]

Yeah, I care more about the state of hr than norms or squire gear tbh

[slim scroll]

Do you understand the logical implications of an 80 damage projectiles in squire gear for other gear sets? Cause that’s what we’re talking about in case you missed it

[quaint dagger]

not a single person has ever said nerf dark bolt

[stoic basin]

All you need is a barb and warlock is fried

[slim scroll]

If you get better gear the bolt actually gets even better than there which is crazy

[lost plover]

That's cause my plate loc includes demon pledge and the mag resist perks for bossing

[quaint dagger]

you're the only squire guy to ever mention it in existence

[slim scroll]

I’ve been killing juiced barbs with squire bolt too

[lost plover]

Dark bolt is tooo op

[slim scroll]

Juiced Barbs, Druids, any other mage, rangers can’t handle squire dark bolts

[quaint dagger]

LOL my lord

[lost plover]

Nah it was the OG druid haters. They used to say it all the time

But they hate druid more now

[stoic basin]

I think dark bolt is fine, it needs 3 stacks to even compare to damage of an elemental bolt

[lost plover]

Insert Grandpa voice "Back in my day, we all hated on warlocks"

[quaint dagger]

I can't believe i'm hearing nerf and squire in the same sentence, the only time that ever happened was when they overtuned rage and it one tapped

[lost plover]

Rage can still one tap................

[slim scroll]

I am being serious about it, dark bolt should not be able to attain perma +99% +20% in squires it’s too strong, I’ve been killing almost everyone I meet with it, and I’ve stopped bringing gear into HR entirely because I don’t need it, I have Squire Dark Bolt

[quaint dagger]

right

[stoic basin]

Barbarians were so up that one time when every class had their health reduced to nothing and Barb was one tapping every class

[lost plover]

I've literally been murdered by platelock with this in the past

[quaint dagger]

this overtune

[exotic seal]

I'll never forgive them.

[slim scroll]

Ah yes the classic “your issue does not exist because I have no encountered it” ploy I love that one, I think I’ll counter with ignoring an obvious troll

[quaint dagger]

i played two wipes with no one other than yourself talking about dark bolt so no i do think it's not an issue or priority

if it was that bad people would talk about it simple as sorry to say

if you're killing SOO many people with it continue to do so and maybe i'll hear about it more and it can get nerfed

[drifting scaffold]

it's already kind of spreading -- i see squire warlocks running dark offering

[stoic basin]

I wonder what gear changes are coming for next wipe 🫣

[quaint dagger]

that's a whole separate case but very rare and niche

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[slim scroll]

Dark bolt is 20 damage, +99% for Soul Collector, +20% for Dark Enhancement, +75% for headshot (its so big how u miss anyways), = 80+ damage dark bolt in squire gear.
Then, you can have INFINITE dark bolts of that strength in demon form.

I am building a full unique set based around it to see how high the damage goes, but it’s already too powerful at squire level.

[drifting scaffold]

you gotta hit it tho

[slim scroll]

Waste all of your health? No problem. Just use the buff from immortal lament to refresh your entire HP on one Hydra (while still in squire gear)

[drifting scaffold]

i hope more gear... I liked a lot of the gear they added this wipe with water map

[slim scroll]

It’s a huge projectiles the only person it is hard to hit with is shield user

Literally it’s the easiest headshot in the whole game

[quaint dagger]

if you're in any kind of blue gear and you lose to a squire warlock just go back into pve

[drifting scaffold]

it's not much bigger than arcane missile and moves really slow

[slim scroll]

True, it is not for long range fights, but mid to close range it destroys. And with actual gear I can cast 3 of them in a couple seconds, minimum 120 damage WITHOUT headshots

I don’t even melee as demon any more, i stay close and use the bolt to the face while I kite

Every time I dodge a swing I try to retaliate with dark bolt

Its seriously busted and once the giga sweats figure it out, kiss your lobbies goodbye everyone will be a dark bolt demon

[latent iron]

If they play perfectly as a warlock you should be able to kill anyone if mobs are not cleared

If mobs are cleared then 1v1 warlock has to actually be good at the game

Or just aim decent enough in general on any game they play

And have more move speed and the warlock wins

[stoic basin]

The new gear for this wipe was fire, sturdy boots, valiant attire and Stefan Barrett are some of my favorites

[latent iron]

Need more gear that comes with knowledge dex and move speed

[quaint dagger]

so good aim, move speed and decent at game without mobs it sounds fairly similar to most

[drifting scaffold]

it's Cutlass for me. ive used it most of this wipe on fighter having a blast

[quaint dagger]

some of the old gear needs tuning cos no one be running it

[latent iron]

Now with mobs is the issue tbh but besides that warlock vs whoever shouldn't be too oppressive unless you are rogue

[quaint dagger]

gets a unique badger pendant meh i'll leave it

[latent iron]

I only pick up frost and phoenix chokers

The rest is peasant wear

[quaint dagger]

yeah same my point exactly

[drifting scaffold]

now the question is -- do you tune true dmg down to the point where it's actually a decision between phoenix and badger/owl? or do you buff badger/owl more

[latent iron]

Obviously they nerf if 😭😭😭

[quaint dagger]

if you nerf true dmg down then other classes that utilise it get hard nerfed

[drifting scaffold]

two schools of thought 🤔

[quaint dagger]

then you need to raise back up other stats

it's too much work for the team

[drifting scaffold]

yeah that's what i was thinking too. lowest impact might be just to buff the static attribute necks

keep phoenix peace and frost necks how they are and buff the others

[cyan monolith]

shhhh

[latent iron]

Buffing everything else to meet true DMG status quo would actually be the smartest thing they could ever do

[drifting scaffold]

i think necks are the main offender. i feel good about where true dmg is on rolls otherwise

[latent iron]

So it's like I could get this much of this or just slightly more DMG

[quaint dagger]

gotta do something with it because it just feels boring buying the same stuff everytime

[drifting scaffold]

exactly

which is why i'm a fan of the new gear added this wipe - actually some variety injected

[latent iron]

Then I would go hmmm 7 dex on legendary necklace vs hmm 5 true DMG

[drifting scaffold]

actually a decision vs a no brainer idk 7 8 whatever. 5, 4, whatever

[quaint dagger]

most of the gear i've seen is just worn by bards or rogues though

[drifting scaffold]

i think slayers got a lot of love too. barb got a few pieces also

[latent iron]

That moment when every weapon I find is a axe for 12 games straight

[bleak nacelle]

does anyone know what cosmetics does the final quest of the tavern master gives?

[quaint dagger]

oh i mean that's cancer in itself has been that way for multiple wipes

[drifting scaffold]

im glad they added more crafts this wipe, i hope they add more next wipe too

[quaint dagger]

somehow i think the loot pool for chests is funky

similar weapons and gear everytime not sure how they worked it but

[warm fable]

pls give warlock curse of blindness that makes enemy player’s screen completely black

[modest echo]

Ain’t no way your taking 2 extra dex over 5 true damage

[latent iron]

Low-key to be capped at max dex yes I would

[modest echo]

Rogue vs rogue you would lose with that 2 extra dex

[quaint dagger]

Think it more applies to like for example an epic frost amulet 3 true vs a legendary pendant with 7 dex 1 true

[latent iron]

Hand crossbow ? Or do you just go invis then stab stab ?

[modest echo]

An even exchange

[latent iron]

Gotta land a couple shots before you feed on a man's soul

[modest echo]

Bro

[latent iron]

Or let it be agility

Just 7 or maybe even more of anything

[modest echo]

You’re never taking 7 dex over 5 true

[latent iron]

Like your not me I get that but I would

[modest echo]

Then go ahead everyone will just stat check you

[latent iron]

To be fair I'm not using the dex for melee I would take it for sorc

[modest echo]

That’s even worse. I’m a sorc main too

[latent iron]

Cuz like 7dex maybe 7knowledge as well as 7 resourcefulness with 1 true

Would be very nice

[warm fable]

good question
its probably a key to incoming Point of interest in season 8

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[warm fable]

and bring back fog of war with additional content

[rustic garnet]

do i need for rogue poison additional or true magic dmg?

[latent iron]

Make sure your magic power is not negative

And true magic on head piece

[rustic garnet]

so i need true magic and not addiotnal magic dmg?

[latent iron]

Yeah true

[quaint carbon]

true is BETTER 99% of the time

dont ever take additional unless you are strictly PVE farming or you know what you are doing

[latent iron]

The only time you take additional is when you magically do over 47% armor pen

Then its kinda worth

[supple drift]

True magic can ignore magic resistance. Additional cannot be ignored by magic resistance.

THINK MAN.. THINK!!

[misty ridge]

me

:D

I don't use True, only Additional

[quaint carbon]

additional is affected by resistances and limb multiplier

[quaint carbon]

chad?

[misty ridge]

I kinda wish the Wind Locket and Torq were Addi Phys and Addi Mag respectively

[rustic garnet]

thx @ all

[misty ridge]

But also I use Longsword, so True Phys isn't really valuable on it

[latent iron]

That's why if he's full dagger build with poison weapon he should build armor pen and get close to 49% armor pen when he stabs that way he can just stack all the additional because it scales with the phys power

I try to build like if possible 15 or 16 armor pen use hide and rupture and additional phys DMG on everything so when I stab I have close to 40 something armor pen

And like 1 magic power bonus and 1 true or 0 magic power bonus just making sure I'm not negative

And I usually kill fast unless someone has like a ungodly amount of vigor

[rustic garnet]

am i stupid? ambush and rupture is not affecting armor pen?

[misty ridge]

They do not change armor pen, but armor pen increases their damage

[rustic garnet]

sure but thats not what he said
thank u anyway mate

[warm fable]

I have better idea than this
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/688379/sdfs-kitchen-in-3d

@proud copper @hexed adder make tavern table talk in company's kitchen
or redecorate SDF's office so it looks like a kitchen

[ruby field]

does undead slaying on cleric work on ghost king?

[quaint carbon]

Is ghost king undead?

[bold lichen]

Next season, Blue items arena with no craftable junk !!!!

SSF too ... make people earn thier gear .... maybe epic I dunno .... just no craftables

[latent iron]

No I have on all the dagger perks to get the extra armor pen and phys DMG bonus and the 1 extra true

I don't remember the exact names

Poison mastery hide mastery so you can move when Invis and the 2 dagger perks

[vale crow]

Average Dark and Darker player iq

[dreamy vine]

hes lernin'

[delicate ibex]

There are many video games that add exceptions to skills and abilities for bosses.

[vale crow]

These exceptions are listed on the abilities they apply to you imbecile

[delicate ibex]

So your position is that Ironmace’s documentation is perfect and never has missing or misleading information.

[vale crow]

Name one time Ironmace had inaccurate documentation

[dreamy vine]

just dont read dex and agilities descriptions for they are wrong

[tough raven]

The amount of times the scaling numbers in brackets has been missing or just wrong is a p decent amount

[vale crow]

Show one then.

[delicate ibex]

#📢announcements pick any update and read the bug fixes lol

Most recent one fixed potion chugger not working on troll’s blood.

Your snarky ass would have asked white name if it was a potion or not

[tough raven]

Pretty sure 1 warlock curse, clerics locust swarm, 1 or two of the druid spells, all from a while ago and fixed but existed at one point

[vale crow]

Link it

[tough raven]

Do it yourself lazy bum

[vale crow]

I did, I see nothing you goober

[tough raven]

Cap

[vale crow]

Yes, but it was corrected quickly

[tough raven]

And that wasn't the argument?

U said there's never been , I said there's been but quickly fixed

[vale crow]

Ironmace makes sure documentation is correct within a few minutes

My point is that in game descriptions can be trusted

[drifting scaffold]

they should make the water map get darker at 33% timer instead of 50% timer

[tough raven]

It took them like 2 weeks to fix that

[vale crow]

No?

[tough raven]

I mean you can trust them most of the time but it's not like slips from the cracks don't happen really often

[vale crow]

Undead slaying has been a thing since day 1

[drifting scaffold]

krampus tongue

[tough raven]

Just checked it took em like 2 months actually lmao

[vale crow]

No that was just the announcement, they forgot to make it

[tough raven]

This gotta be ragebait

[vale crow]

Check streams from the time man

[delicate ibex]

It’s sdf’s alt account

[tough raven]

Gotta be

[vale crow]

I am SDF I will be nerfing quest drop rates next wipe

[lapis birch]

As the name suggests, wind locket could be move speed related and torq of soul add magic+phys or power bonuses

[bold lichen]

What they really situate then 😮 ?!

.... more to the point what makes weapon switching faster ?

[cyan monolith]

whatever he said

[leaden niche]

Was a pleasure but this game is so sad ,

HR lobby = chinese teaming

More cheaters

Arena is not the content that we all want

Game is unbalanced

Was a pleasure but SDF destroy this game

Bye

[tacit perch]

WTB PP - Deathbloom + lad or 2 chests

[cyan monolith]

k

[drifting scaffold]

ok see you again in 3 month 👋

[cyan monolith]

2 weeks*

[leaden niche]

i stop playing the game since 2 wipe i just reload it for this wipe , so yeah

[cyan monolith]

cool

[leaden niche]

this comm

[cyan monolith]

good comms

[leaden niche]

No i say community dog

[cyan monolith]

the community dog is called otto

he was in the pregamy lobby before they removed it

[shy linden]

game is unbalanced hear him

[leaden niche]

sad

[misty pendant]

china teaming cheating and rats the most unenjoyable community playstyle

[leaden niche]

you have stock market on ironmace?

[leaden niche]

thx

[leaden niche]

dog

[cyan monolith]

wassup dawg

[misty pendant]

i support the crow playstyle - SDF

[drifting scaffold]

unbalanced definitely isnt the word to use, balance better now than ever

sometimes i understand druid hate other times i just watch ppl panic when confronted by a bear or panther and do nothing while they paw them to death

[unreal garnet]

YO.... SQUIRRELBRAIN DRUID FAN...... can we get a little bit of..... just a wee smidge of..... SAVING THE PLAYERBASE??? #the-tavern message

[sour ether]

ayo you guys fire sdf yet?

bringing back multiclass to kill ya game again?

[visual swallow]

multiclass was awesome

[sour ether]

rofl, the game was awesome when it had 50k players

been dead for 4 years now cause they couldn't decide what they wanted to do with it

[visual swallow]

bring back multiclass

[tepid osprey]

No one plays sorcerer
No one plays sorcerer
No one plays sorcerer

[drifting scaffold]

lol? ppl definitely do i saw it in arena over the weekend. pretty good if they know how to play

[tepid osprey]

The class has been nerfed to the ground. It had like 6 nerfs back to back.

[misty ridge]

Eh Sorcerer's kind of mid rn

The Cooldown on Elemental Bolt is like 15s base now

Imagine if Ranger could only shoot one arrow every 15s

[tepid osprey]

Literally

I just gotta go back to wiz until they fix that class 😩

[median beacon]

@proud copper

[urban palm]

viola kumas pesti team on us east trios ruins

[coral tide]

ever had a glaciate sorc block a door by becoming a giant icicle and then you get a free 2 piece on the dudes tryna run past the ice cube

[drifting scaffold]

except sorc has like 7 other spells in the kit?

[tepid osprey]

I normally just use my summon

[tepid osprey]

That barely does damage for the most part

[drifting scaffold]

lol well now we know what you mean

isn't a guaranteed nuke? nerfed sucks class is terrible

[tepid osprey]

Sorc is great for crowd control tho

[visual swallow]

sorc is great in trios, I don't like sorc when I have to 1v1

sorc plays the door game probably better than any other class

[tepid osprey]

Definitely

[misty ridge]

same argument could be made for Ranger to switch to another bow then crossbow then melee weapon lol

[visual swallow]

you can make space on the other side of a door and actually push through a door as a team without throwing the fight thanks to sorc

[misty ridge]

The thing is with Sorcerer that your actual damage spells are fairly limited

[visual swallow]

ya, that's why I hate when I end up having to 1v1 as sorc lol

[drifting scaffold]

not at all, ranger just ... reloads? like idk what point ur making

[visual swallow]

but the util you bring to a team is pretty good

[misty ridge]

If I could design Sorc I honestly would've gave them a basic set of spells like push, pull, that kind of thing, and then you infuse elemental magic to apply different status effects on it

So projectile for example you can switch between fire/ice/earth based

That's nowhere near how Dungeons and Dragons sorcerer plays but I think I'd mess with it

[visual swallow]

I mean current sorc isn't really D&D either

[unreal garnet]

fr that sorc idea is way closer to dungeons and dragagons than whatever tf they came up with and have now

no shared spells with wizard and cooldowns instead of slots??? its interesting which parts they make like Dungeons and drgaons and which parts are vastly different

[warm fable]

15 days till wipe

[drifting scaffold]

Idk if there’s a great way to implement a wild magic style thing, but the goal to make it different than wizard was achieved

[verbal marten]

Everyone that still plays this game has a severe level of stockholm syndrome

[drifting scaffold]

I think it represents the “primal” nature of sorcerers well, even if the spell mixing is something out of the ordinary

[flat harness]

Sorry dignitydestroyer, next time ill ask you if i should keep playing or not

I would add a "69" like dignitydestroyer69, its an insane roblox nick so you can play it with aura

[verbal marten]

didn’t say to stop or continue playing. I’m just stating facts

[late vortex]

I WOULD imagine your mostly correct, but considering there are only like 3k players left, half chillen in a lobby. a percentage is cheating and exploiting the game rather than being exploited. its probably shifting more into there favor by the day. then you have the die hards

[deft vault]

It's scary to know I could actively harrass this discord with a fake discord account and get away with it. Literally had some guy throwing around the R word in the voice call I was in, and if I make a report, it seems that I just run the risk of being banned myself. So I've learned through experience just to say something equally worse back to these people because they are not getting punished for their actions,

[mortal bluff]

Game is so dead

[deft vault]

Yes the game is flooded with hackers as well as the game is just dead

[mortal bluff]

So dead that it made me install black desert online

[verbal marten]

And there’s people in this discord that actively act like this game is in a good place when in reality it’s about to get overrun with hackers soon. Happens to every dying game

[dreamy vine]

resourcefullnes

[slim scroll]

Y here even, just go

We’ll leave together, same time

[verbal marten]

cause I cared about this game and I want to point people to better products/games

[slim scroll]

This isn’t the place for advertising ❤️

How about just go to the better products/games discord instead of wasting your time here

[verbal marten]

I know you’re trolling, but where does it say that in the rules?

[verbal marten]

how about we show people there are better games to play?

[deft vault]

My Hero Ultra Rumble has a fuck load of hackers as well, unfortunate because I really enjoy playing that game. I think I've witness hackers get bored of that game because it wasn't too bad last week.

[mortal bluff]

What is better game than dark and darker

[verbal marten]

i play arc raiders and deadlock for now and deadlock is free

[mortal bluff]

Arc raiders may be fun but I don't like how it looks

[slim scroll]

I am just saying that, you’d be better off playing your other games than actively trying to take away from the community here because you feel spiteful about the development direction.

[mortal bluff]

Deadlock is ass

[mortal bluff]

Chill out

No one is taking away the community.

But for real if you want a real mmorpg play black desert online

[deft vault]

this is pathetic, I just got off work. can I not hear people complain about something for one second?

just go find something to do and fo it.

[delicate ibex]

Chivalry

[verbal marten]

and you don’t? This is genuinely the worst development ive ever seen

[summer lion]

BDO was goated when EU server opend, sadly my account got deleted when they switched companys and i didnt play during those years

[mortal bluff]

You've gotten an email about it swapping

[summer lion]

ya but i missed the time period i think last time i wanted to get back into BDO

[mortal bluff]

I know because I did get an email too. They sent emails to everyone

[verbal marten]

Heavily disagree, it’s given me nearly everything ive wanted in a skill expressive game gameplay wise

[mortal bluff]

Yeah that sucks man.

If my account was deleted. I wouldn't play more BDO I think

Too much of a grind to get everything back. Although they make it easier to catch up with other players

[slim scroll]

We have most definitely had a rough dev journey, but I am feeling more optimistic regarding the devs level of communication lately as well as due to the last season and its changes. I’m cautiously looking forward to next season.

[summer lion]

ya same, sadly no other MMO comes close to being that fun, apogea soon tho

[verbal marten]

"cautiously" see that’s why im tired of this game. It should be optimism and joy that you feel about something like a new season/update. But the devs have proven with every step they take forward they take 5 steps back

[slim scroll]

Devs made mistakes and are trying to own up to them I think.
After improvements to game and communication I feel like it’s not wrong to want to give them another chance 🤷‍♂️

[deft vault]

take accountability

[summer lion]

problem the way i see it, sdf lost alot of trust. many of my mates dont want to play dad anymore because of "what if sdf takes everything away for no reason again". a wipe is always fun and i honestly believe dark can come back with consistent new wipes/patches, i just dont know if i trust IM to make those

[verbal marten]

When im in a copium competition and my opponent is Platelock

[slim scroll]

Nobody trusts SDF individually anymore, literally nobody. Not even I will argue against that. But I am hoping that IronMace can more or less control him better to be blunt

Terry pls 🙏

[verbal marten]

sdf owns the company and terry is a lap dog that will never question sdf. Like holy copium, just go play Arc Raiders

[visual swallow]

arc raiders is boring, I tried it

[slim scroll]

I play both games and enjoy them both 🤷‍♂️

[visual swallow]

put quake cpma movement in dark and darker trust me

[slim scroll]

“Like holy copium just go play arc raiders” it’s so funny that you said that while arguing with me about a game you don’t even like anymore in it’s discord server whiles it’s apparently dying

[verbal marten]

"apparently dying" you’re just rage baiting at this point. Enjoy dead game

[slim scroll]

K bye 👋

[boreal spoke]

@dreamy bloom whatd you do

[drifting scaffold]

its alright bro ill see you again in a month when u wanna check in and try to rage bait the chat again

[slim scroll]

Fr or in a month when he’s complaining about balance changes because he’ll still be playing the game

[verbal marten]

haven’t played the game in months try again

[slim scroll]

That’s good for you, tell it to the other 9999 people who will be playing the dead game in two weeks

[clever cloud]

Season 8 will be the season I just know it

If not, then season 9 will be.

[strange sage]

mods should just start banning people who come here just to complain, without even playing the game, they serve 0 purpose still being in the discord server

[slim scroll]

[clever cloud]

Game is trash. I dont play it. Ban me mods. I done the bad thing

[slim scroll]

Why are you even HERE other than to try and take from the existing community out of spite. Absolutely wild

If that’s how you treat a damn video game I feel bad for your girlfriends

Or boyfriends or whatever mb

[strange sage]

bold to assume these types of people have significant other lmao

[slim scroll]

Damn u rite

[verbal marten]

I’m just gonna leave this copy pasta here:

Wanting the game to succeed while refusing to hold the developers accountable is exactly how it continues to fail. You do not get growth through patience alone; you get it through pressure. If you keep logging in, keep spending, keep pretending everything is fine "for the sake of the game," you are not supporting it. You are enabling the very behavior that is killing it.

SDF’s attitude, the disrespect toward creators, the silence, the mismanagement, these are not unfortunate side effects. They are the cause. And hoping for a “glow up” while still feeding the cycle is like watering a dead plant and blaming the sun.

If you truly care about this game, stop playing it. A dying playerbase is the only language a stubborn dev understands. Starve the ego, starve the revenue, and maybe... just maybe... they will remember what this game was supposed to be before they buried it under arrogance.

[clever cloud]

So season 9 will be the savior. Got it.

[mystic spindle]

@vale oar is there a monk in the loading screen?

[median beacon]

Watch the “new class skills and abilities” they said were gonna be in the wipe just be a horribly broken monk

[delicate ibex]

Sell the game to Nexon. I hear they’ve got some experience publishing extraction games successfully.

[drifting scaffold]

lmfao can't even come up with your own stuff gotta copy some shit from reddit

[past mango]

They literally said that the monk was delayed to expand the current classes??

[drifting scaffold]

bro this chat can't even read patch notes properly

[median beacon]

They have said lots of things my brotha

[past mango]

Like im very critical of a lot of the stuff that happens here, but man it sucks that people cant read lol

[drifting scaffold]

oh mb looks liek some cringe shit i'd see on that reddit

[past mango]

Ok? But what you said makes 0 sense either way. People like you are why people like cquinn dont take most critics of this gsme seriously

Like if you have critiques address them as bluntly as you want. But also give them credit where and when its due.

Like delaying monk to expand current classes is a smart call and is proof they are learning

[clever cloud]

releases monk anyway

Thatd be the ironmace i know and love

[median beacon]

What I said was clearly a joke. Who cares what other people think anyway? This is a discord that iron mace doesn’t read

[past mango]

I've been wanting monk more then anything as of late.

They released too many magic classes in a row

[clever cloud]

More melee would be siiiiick but I worry about monk

[median beacon]

I also wouldn’t it put it past them to do exactly what I said

[past mango]

I hope that fist weapons get added and thst barbs can use them. Lemme have brass knuckles on a barb pls

Or leather gauntlets

Caestus I think?

Yah caestus for monk and barb would be sick af

[median beacon]

My bad cquinn for my latest take I didn’t realize that I should be making sure you take me seriously

[dreamy bloom]

i did an oopsie also known as getting banned

[strange sage]

erm please do not discuss moderation 🤓

thats going to be 2 hour timeout

[clever cloud]

I always thought your pfp was Patrick Bateman but then I clicked on it. Wtf is that

[lone basin]

anyone got the link to collectors guild?

[median beacon]

Tarkov boss glukhar face in game

[clever cloud]

Lool ah I see it now

[strange sage]

ill dm you

[clever cloud]

No shot people still use that discord after everything

[lone basin]

only for arti selling i think

[median beacon]

What was the drama with that discord?

[strange sage]

what happened that would make people not?

[median beacon]

Ppl still use it fs

I use it to price check artis and list artis I’m tryna sell

[boreal spoke]

avg vinrar moment

[strange sage]

i used to just check trade channel, but now theres like 2 active people in trade so idk what prices are ever

[boreal spoke]

when do you get unbanned i need my content

[median beacon]

Yep exact reason I look on collector cuz posts stay up for reference

[dreamy bloom]

i mean i did send an appeal so hopefully soon but probably 7 days atleast

[boreal spoke]

sounds like you have enough time to make a second illusory kit and practice this time

[dreamy bloom]

Lowkey it's classic vvinrar moment

[dreamy bloom]

ARTIFACT GAMING IN 6-7 DAYS

[cyan monolith]

those who know semi semi wipe is coming

[slim scroll]

This is hilarious. You’re arguing under a false dilemma where players must either leave the game to show they care, or continue enabling it without criticism.
Yes, organized criticism is necessary to properly communicate to the devs, no, quitting the game isn’t the only way to do that. Funny tho

[verbal marten]

You’re right it’s not the only way, but definitely the best way

[magic prairie]

Most people quit and left this shit game and aren’t coming back this was a make or break season and it wasn’t good so idk where IM go from here but if this wipe don’t have any meaningful content there cooked

[slim scroll]

Interesting that’d you’d use an entire paragraph you didn’t even write that apparently upon further examination you don’t actually agree with unless further modified by subjective statements such as “but it’s the best way” but okay

[cyan monolith]

😭

[slim scroll]

You’re assuming that player-absence is what devs respond to primarily, and not behavior signals like spending changes, pressure from content creators, negative reviews, and public sentiment.
You’re also sidestepping the elephant in the room, which is that player-abandonment at its extreme leads to true death of the game. Otherwise every big multiplayer project might have recovered right as they died. It’s like you’re advertising a Coma as the cure to terminal Cancer when in reality it might just be the final blow

[mild chasm]

I'm waiting for the game to be SO dead, SDF can finally come in and remove every queue except trio's and all carebear gearscore brackets, squire lobbies, etc.

SDF had a vision that almost saved the game, but he immediately capitulated to all the whiney squeeling carebears.

[potent elm]

remove trios? lmfaoooo

[cyan monolith]

remove trios???????

[potent elm]

theres the edit lol

[mild chasm]

mistyped, my bad lol

[cyan monolith]

was bouta say

from soy to based in one edit

[slim scroll]

Good bait 😭

You got a problem with my boyfriend or something? 🤨

I’ll have you know this is a friendly and inclusive space

Regardless of race, religion, creed, or sexual orientation

[mild chasm]

^ this guy just trollin himself at this point

[slim scroll]

Idk I’m just baked and vibing tbh

Saying whatever comes to mind first

[slim scroll]

Squires to Riches Player versus Player

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[verbal marten]

all of these are great solutions which is why they will not be implemented into this game

[hidden estuary]

Wipe is end of the month, yeah?

[granite surge]

Its planned for the 29th of this month, correct

[hidden estuary]

Hoping for something Juicy, we need it.

[cyan monolith]

1 new mob and shop skins, take it or leave it

[hidden estuary]

This is a great Idea, therefore, it will not be implemented. Mob guy left.

[cyan monolith]

1 loading screen and discounts on 2 year old cosmetics, take it or leave it

[abstract hull]

I fart on Otis

[unreal garnet]

no new wizard spells (they reworked magic lock) 5 new skins and a new tavern emote

[cyan monolith]

W leaks

or maybe 1 new wiz spell "magic open" instantly opens chests, 3 charges and its a tier 5 spell

maybe a spell that instantly uninstalls the game when u load in

[warm fable]

maybe wizard will be able to have 6 or 7 spells per spell wheel

[sterile path]

Are the rumors true? Sdf is taking a backseat? The game might be in a good state in the next year or so??

[gaunt oracle]

buff entangling vines

[meager river]

revert ssf arena

[warm fable]

I hope entire season 8 will be SSF arena

[tight swallow]

God i hope so.

[stray token]

anyone else getting messages from random people from this discord

[gaunt oracle]

maybe once a month... but I ignore their message requests

[velvet herald]

He mainly plays test server cuz he cant get diffed there huh?

[drifting scaffold]

sdf was stomping ppl in arena with skinny pete last wipe

[velvet herald]

Lol they never hit t100

[gaunt oracle]

lol

[crude yacht]

Is that all time low player count? 1.3k in dungeon

[lost plover]

Please remain polite

[slim scroll]

Is S2R just always ruins

[visual swallow]

I wish

[velvet herald]

Amen type

[visual swallow]

"tens of thousands of hours" is a pretty fuckin hilarious claim

10,000 hours over 4 years is an average of like 8 hours per day every day

tens of thousands?

like 20,000+?

[heady grove]

prob just an exaggeration but i dont doubt he has over 2.5k hours

[visual swallow]

my boy sdf playin 15 hour days 7 days a week

[gaunt oracle]

I have 13,985 and I've been afk in gathering hall when I'm not playing since season 2. Not 100% uptime cuz my internet cuts out when I sleep sometimes, but yeah... 10s of thousands is hilarious

[visual swallow]

[gaunt oracle]

sometimes people tell the truth. sometimes they stretch it. sometimes they're unfamiliar with the concept

[warm fable]

[misty grail]

we still doing hardcore arifact arena or did we grow a brain

[strange sage]

god damn bro turn off ur pc wtf

electric bill 📈

[gaunt oracle]

one day, you're going to turn off your PC and it won't turn back on again. NOT ME

[static zodiac]

It’s not crazy to assume the dude has close to 10k hours, since the game is literally his career

[drifting scaffold]

damn graysun logs on and just gets a wave of absolute chud messages

[gaunt oracle]

10k, sure. 10s of thousands?

[visual swallow]

tens of thousands

[strange sage]

one day urs is just gonna fucking implode like a star

the end of humanity wont be from the sun dying, it will be from ur pc

[static zodiac]

Avg person works 2,080 hours per year.
Thats with 40 hours a week.

We already know these ppl sit here in office till the late hours, so it’s not crazy to assume they go above 40 hours on normal days.

I think 10k is reasonable, but 10s is crazy

[drifting scaffold]

if ape can hit 13 all sdf has to do is hit 18 on dev client … seems ez

[queen torrent]

i have a buddy at work that swears up and down that keeping his computer on at all times makes it run better 😭

[drifting scaffold]

bare minimum to satisfy “tens”

[queen torrent]

people are crazy

[warm fable]

bro must be this rogue player I once encountered
full afk landmine rogue camping red stairs with DB

[visual swallow]

10,000 hours over 4 years is 7 hours per day every single day. 20k is almost 14

and he supposedly also works I assume

my man got that necklace from harry potter

[gaunt oracle]

the fans will continue to gather dust and cat hair, becoming increasingly dense over the decades. Then one fateful day, the PC becomes so dense it collapses under its own mass and the solar system is consumed by the resulting black hole.

but at least then there won't be anymore druids

[static zodiac]

Lmfoa

[queen torrent]

i think it would be safe to assume that he meant around 10 thousand hours

even repoze is at like 13k and that guy never gets off

[static zodiac]

Yeah probably not meant to look too deep into it, obvious hyperbole

[void anchor]

@proud copper Give Tidal Plate Armor so we can complete the drip

[gaunt oracle]

I sure can't wait to hear next wipe about IF IM found any problems with the luck system

[visual swallow]

[lusty maple]

i'd be surprised if luck was even on their radar for the next 3 years

[gaunt oracle]

#game-discussion message

[warm fable]

2 more weeks and balance chaos begins

[supple drift]

Ironmace... I'm watching you... Don't make another disappointment nor delay..

Otherwise, Ima crash out really hard! Like throwing a glass of peanut butter jar to the floor.

[warm fable]

ok that's too much text

[warm fable]

SDF: Welcome to the semi-wipe

[coral tide]

I need that frost light heavy gambeson first

[supple drift]

[tawny pollen]

Need egg. Give egg now

[warm fable]

panderz about to leak season 8 content

[granite surge]

[warm fable]

false hope

[subtle rose]

Nah we need krapst back to leak like a chad

[final monolith]

oh i would love to see a leak of next update

[subtle rose]

Next patch should be tonight or tomorrow

i think

[final monolith]

i dont think so brother 🙁
i think its gon be like 29th

[subtle rose]

Yeah probably not, last hotfix was last week

[warm fable]

next patch will happen before hardcore arena

[final monolith]

what exactly should i do to grind demigod asap

and do i still need to rightclick-> run as admin

[warm fable]

i don't

[forest saffron]

First floor ruins, loot and kill 1-2 rooms until full, take drawbridge. Repeat.

[steep hinge]

why does this garbage ass game have 4 queues, are you devs braindead?

[forest saffron]

There is a lot more than that.

[steep hinge]

true 4 per map

extra braindead devs nice can you guys do ANYTHING

[forest saffron]

Regions as well.

[steep hinge]

what abt religions?

[forest saffron]

Regions*

[steep hinge]

oh ye true, and then 3 seperate solo duo trio

literally unplayable

[sudden hatch]

there is WAY more than 4 per map

[steep hinge]

i just said that

[sudden hatch]

solos duos trio norms, sdt hr nd s2h as well as the 2 pves

9 queues per map is diabolical

[steep hinge]

yeah so gross

[carmine void]

Any fish enjoyers in chat today?

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[oblique lantern]

any wipe soon ??

[wheat smelt]

LFG too cringe. playerbase is cooked

[vital roost]

Devs cooking with shutting down the only gamemode people enjoy playing for over half the week at the very end of wipe cycle 🔥

[hushed violet]

Wait 15 days

[final monolith]

yea how many fucking queues is there.......

17 per region that INSANE

also arena half the time

wait no its not 17 since duos solos and trios

8x4= 32 + arena+ squires = 34 queues per region

[fierce forge]

do quests reset every season?

[wary mantle]

yes

[sonic lynx]

FIRE SDF HE ITS SUCH AND ALCHOHOLIC

[delicate ibex]

Yes we know he's Korean

[uneven mortar]

Bro this game is so dead it's hilarious. General chat went from multiple messages per minute to one every couple. So dead so dead skill issue devs maybe listen to the players. Oh wait sdfs plan is better I forgot

[sonic lynx]

sdf drink all the gain on the game and forget about better the game

[unreal garnet]

nah man. 63 players per queue average right now. basically popping off harder than arc raiders

[sonic lynx]

the game itso n worse state than 3 years ago this dude ruin the game ruin his life and only know how to steal bet he its pickpoket master

[uneven mortar]

Damn hella numbers

[strange sage]

I think you're the drunk one big man.

[sonic lynx]

with that pfp you dont look too masculine soo your opinion its rejected af come back when your testo its not negative

[slate hawk]

Let's stay respectful of others, folks 🙂

[sonic lynx]

can we get a ceo who actually respect the game and comunity ?

[bitter garnet]

have they clarified what the hardcore arena event is? i think graysun said something about explaining what it is at some point but i dont see any info anywhere

[unreal garnet]

you lose all you gear when you lose a game, keep it all if you win. thats it, thats the event

[bitter garnet]

yeah but thats what he said in a message at one point, but then he said he will clarify or someshit, thats not even an event if its the way you explained it XD

[slate hawk]

Hardcore = can bring anything in, including artifacts
Lose all items on a defeat

[strange sage]

Can I get that in english please, Mr. drunkard?

[sonic lynx]

tahts because of low testosteron maybe if you wasent that fem yiu would understand like ever1 else

[bitter garnet]

uhhh so when i queue up and get 2 squire teammates cause they dont want to lose gear, im stuck playing with them and risk lossing my kit? XD

[unreal garnet]

"not an event" yep! pretty much

[sonic lynx]

start chaging your pfp for irl one maybe help but i dont think you can even get help at that point you look soo dumed

[unreal garnet]

no but they wont but be high rating! or something... idk...

[slate hawk]

If you're planning on using a good kit

1. Don't use it with randoms
   or
2. Use it once your Arena Matchmaking isn't at a level where trolls are

[drifting grove]

why the cant make it like it was a few wipes ago

[unreal garnet]

🤣

[bitter garnet]

okay but if im 2200 im forced to solo queue no? O.o

[unreal garnet]

no but theres no trolls! garunteed!

🤣

[strange sage]

1. 2200 rating
2. Theres trolls even past 2200 rating

[slate hawk]

I presume that the Arena Matchmaking will reset, since the season is over

[unreal garnet]

goob show fr

[bitter garnet]

ive seen so many reddit posts of people saying they are going to have lots of fun queueing in squire and trolling their artifact teammates in squire kits so they lose them lol

[slate hawk]

At the end of the day (event), the wipe happens three days later

[feral inlet]

yo i quit game like 2 years ago, dungeonborn was so much better tbh but its no more playable cuz its dead. Is there any champion which is more arcade and have some dash? like rogoue in dungeonborne? And also is it worth to back to the DnD again or just leave it as it is cuz i see playerbase only droping

[strange sage]

what?

[slate hawk]

How fast can someone make it to 2200 arena rating in three days, in Hardcore kits?

[strange sage]

"champion which is more arcade" what are you saying brother

[unreal garnet]

every SINGLE one of those people are below 2200 guaranteed 👿 😡

[feral inlet]

do they add new class? with some dash or smth?

[strange sage]

druid has dash, its not new though, sorcerer has a teleport, and monk (coming soon™) will probably have some movement abilities

[bitter garnet]

damn i guess its just smarter to risk my artifact kit in HR where i can actually gain something, kinda sad that they arent even trying the slightest with this "event"

[bitter garnet]

yeah i aint playing this "event" if that what they confirmed it will be like lmao

[unreal garnet]

no but like.... people want to see how far they can push with a hardcore limitation... or something...

[summer lion]

the event is sdf ragebait dont fall for it

[bitter garnet]

last artifact event was actually fun but i guess people had too much fun so they have to put the kabooch on it lol

[slate hawk]

I see the event as a great way to not completely waste your kit, since you get a minimum of three "lives" with it before it's gone, versus in HR

[unreal garnet]

its the troll kings battle horn. gets em riled up

[bitter garnet]

idk i just find it zero effort for them to simply remove restrictions and make every loss lose gear, thats like 2 lines of code lol

[sonic lynx]

its shame to have people with who dont like to get our game better on the ocmunity and me taht i defend our game and always make it better get punish with warnings

all the people who is playing s2r its thanks to me i propuse that game mode and thats why the game itsn ot diying

and all i get its warning when some low testo dude negative actually try to rage bait me

shame for the comunity disgusting af

[lavish tide]

he didn't try if he did it, he got it done. another word for this is called success

[feral inlet]

i mean im looking for something to play where gameplay is similar to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hywr9fitnhQ

[lavish tide]

look at mortal online but it's an mmo with a sub

[unreal garnet]

bro keeps projecting his low test and its getting wierd fr

[sonic lynx]

i want my respect i can buy cooking by my self

[lavish tide]

you don't deserve any

[sonic lynx]

negative testoreno dudes reporting me and triying to get me ban here when most of the shi i say to sdf to cook em was huge W

for example HR should be random till 50k players

[unreal garnet]

so for all of time

[sonic lynx]

you want to play full lobbyes and be fun not to be like where its the people but then we have cry babys asking for map selecion when we have no players at all

[feral inlet]

is there any class similar to rogue from dungeonborn? Im looking to play some similar game, my build and gamestyle was like mosquito like there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hywr9fitnhQ

Is there any other games like this or new similar class/builds in DnD ? I quit Dnd 2 years ago, dont know how its workin rn

also they deleted soloque and its only trio rn?

[lavish tide]

would you like a lesson in english bird

there's an i in lobbies and babies

[slate hawk]

Let's stay respectful of everyone, please!
What feature would you like to be added to the game, if it was just one?

[lavish tide]

that is all. i do not need your consent

[sonic lynx]

i have too many lenguajes on my mind its hard to write fast and without misspelling sometimes

[lavish tide]

lenguajes @slate hawk

[slate hawk]

hello 👋

[lavish tide]

i didn't say hi

[slate hawk]

I typed and sent a message saying hello 👋
Hello again 👋

[lavish tide]

lenguajes @slate hawk

[feral inlet]

hello

[slate hawk]

Hello!

[sonic lynx]

wasup scaremenow

how its going

[slate hawk]

Doing all righty!

[sonic lynx]

nice to see man

are you playing ? how are the dungeons today for you?

[wispy steeple]

yall can see each other ...........

[feral inlet]

ye fellow @slate hawk look this, i belive u cuz u got yellow nickname u will spit facts

[slate hawk]

The rogue in DaD?

[sonic lynx]

redname > yellow name

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[feral inlet]

But rogue id dad is just ass as hell as i remmeber? no dash? no resets? Do they changed him?

[lament citrus]

WHEN WIPE?

[gaunt oracle]

"The start of Early Access Season 8 is now scheduled for January 29, 2026" #📢announcements message

[slim flower]

when wipe

[sonic lynx]

19 or 29 they said

[zealous tulip]

Pretty sure 29th.

[warped lintel]

when wipe

[unique zinc]

I think the 29th

[zealous tulip]

I've been told the 29th.

[unique zinc]

When wipe ?

[warped lintel]

I'm under the impression it'll be the 29th

[zealous tulip]

That's normal in chat.

[unique zinc]

[zealous tulip]

It's every other question lol.

[slate hawk]

Druid has dashes and resets with heals, but rogues have the moskito build you might think of. check the 📌 in #rogue class channel

[slim flower]

where did they say that

[sonic lynx]

streamers say it

i watch some of them and all say the same

[slate hawk]

It's been announced in the Discord in #📢announcements as the date planned the 29th of January

[sudden hatch]

wipes on the 29th

[feral inlet]

holy fuckkk durid is loookig soo fucking fiiireeee

[coral tide]

dont try to reason with that guy i asked him to repeat himself one time in a game and he tkd me

[feral inlet]

druid what a peak of gaming , best class ever fr

look this posibilites holy f dash mid air jump into heal

what a great class

[brisk walrus]

you understand what he said well enough your reply is a cope over soy feelings

[pulsar lantern]

Sound about right lul

Average tavern enjoyer

[pulsar lantern]

Maybe not being transphobic or like not mean would help

[pulsar lantern]

Also pretty sure thats getting Taken away but not sure

[sonic lynx]

triying to rage bait and then get punish back its such a kid behaviu i think you are playing enough mature game to try to ragebait some1 when he its definetly mad about some points of thegame

[sonic lynx]

s2r for ever

[pulsar lantern]

Okay? Like you aré saying sdf its suffering from addicctions but hes the kid

Yeah sure dude, sounds like u aré fun at parties