the-tavern

[sullen thorn]

u would like that wouldnt u rogue i aint falling for ur tricks

[supple drift]

yeah rogue, nice try

[sullen thorn]

also hr is dead af last i checked just rat rogues just not fun to deal with that

[final monolith]

nah its mostly druids

[sullen thorn]

ah lovely their back in play

[coarse summit]

lot of ppl been contesting hr wyvern today

there was 5ppl on the platform in one match

[static zodiac]

wqwertyguiop

[supple drift]

wyvern seems fun to fight or is it easy to kill?

[final monolith]

they might be teaming rmters

[patent forge]

me and the boys been seeing mad juice and named items in ruins

[coarse summit]

easy once you learn it like all bosses

[supple drift]

ah

[coarse summit]

could be

[final monolith]

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PLEASE WATCH ⁠#dnd-content latest vid
REWORK DRUID TRANSFORMATIONS COMPLETELY FOR NEXT SEASON
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finally made it work

[supple drift]

Relax Bluefire, just put 3 cheeses top and 3 cheeses bottom.

[sullen thorn]

i aint falling for ur tricks

[static zodiac]

hgdfghwsdqes
'

[coarse summit]

it is a fun fight tho endure

[sullen thorn]

putting all my kits in my squire

[final monolith]

10 is ok i think i want more cheese rather than less, ofc

[coarse summit]

mining the froststone is less fun

[supple drift]

[supple drift]

i see, I like cheese.

[patent forge]

lol if ur playing solos then yeah its gonna be all rogues and druids, but honestly who plays solos its straight cancer the game was made for 3s even duos is a million times better

[final monolith]

yo did u know cheese literally makes u happy when u eat it more than any other food

[sullen thorn]

i only play solos T_T

[final monolith]

ewwww why game isnt even balanced around solos, its just a druid fest

[sullen thorn]

ye im putting all my kits away those things r never seeing the light of day

[supple drift]

No, I did not know. I avoid eating cheese because.. saturated fats...

[sullen thorn]

cuz im amazing at solos terrible as a team player

[patent forge]

well theres your problem solos sucks

[trail peak]

So game is like at 4k pop and a huge chunk is just druids running after druids?😅

[coarse summit]

ill use them for you its ok

[static zodiac]

I eat pizza, I drink Soda

[coarse summit]

i dont mind

[final monolith]

kindof

[dreamy vine]

Same

[patent forge]

lol then the 500k you spent was even less worth it since they aint even being used

[static zodiac]

4/5 players ive met in gobbo caves are druids

[supple drift]

Waffle with syrup makes me happy.

[patent forge]

damn we are still at 4k thats pretty solid

[final monolith]

this ☝️

[sullen thorn]

ye but id rather have it and never use it then use it and loss it to a rogue or druid

[final monolith]

go gobbo caves mid and tell me there arent druids waiting for the barb to fight someone so they can third party

[sullen thorn]

ima porlly just sell them off tbh im broke on gold and down my last chest

[dreamy vine]

Who else would stay in solos and that's the main game mode apparently

[trail peak]

Tough spot, but movement was always king in this game. Hope they can figure something out 🫡

[supple drift]

What a lovely conversation we are having now~ Unlike Arc discord chat...

[final monolith]

i do hope too!!!!!! ❤️ thank you for your kind words sir and to you a great day.

[patent forge]

arc is flaming donkey shite

[final monolith]

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[coarse summit]

that game is also full of crybabies only they complain about people killing them in a pvp game

[supple drift]

[final monolith]

i dont like guns so im not playing arc raiders

[marsh hinge]

yo anyone gotta spare stingray egg i can get, on my 167 run amd still havent gotten one cuh

[final monolith]

id play rust and roofcamp with an OPS before playing arc raiders

[supple drift]

Yeah, guns are kinda overrated. I like rpg style.

actually... it depends on people taste. rpg vs sci-fi

[coarse summit]

theres a gun in dark and darker, never seen anyone actually use it though

[supple drift]

[sullen thorn]

completely forgot i had this full tidal armor set for cleric thing was not worth making

[dreamy vine]

Name the restricting mechanics in this game and how druid bypasses them

[final monolith]

good thing about arc raiders is that basic loadout can win against someone bringing in bis
never would happen in dad, the price for power is too steep and the power is too strong

[trail peak]

Honestly makes sense it is main now, out of all the people I played with I was the last one for almost 3 months and then I left too cause I wasn't interested in finding new parties to play with and random queue was kinda ahh. I imagine a lot of those left playing can tell a similar story

[coarse summit]

movespeed for a start

[supple drift]

chicken fly. It must be disable in the next patch, then everyone is happy.

[sullen thorn]

truing stitcher above all other guns ngl

[little bronze]

looking for 1 more for rags to riches. any class add me.

[final monolith]

i cant solo queue no more on weekends or holidays, too many newbies in s2r. i really just go lfg NA and make a voip ask for experienced players

[dreamy vine]

I hear the gear doesn't do anything

[final monolith]

? uh someone in unique will roll a squire kit in dad

in raiders im not sure, i think its all trash

[supple drift]

we must nuture timmies. I, the fighter, shall protect them by being a frontline with a cutlass style! And die honorably.

[quiet roost]

has there been any confirmed wipe date? Also plz tell me they are keeping high roller pve lol

[final monolith]

1. no, but expected for january. 2) i hope they dont, but they will

[coarse summit]

why wouldnt you want a wipe

[quiet roost]

i dont personally enjoy the pvp so for me the pve is a lot of fun! Thanks mate!

[final monolith]

i do random queue and give timbos advice or try to make them win fights and its fun, buts its a vibe sometimes i want to be with people like me (killas rdy to wipe da lobby ya know)

[supple drift]

yeah.. i can see that

[dreamy vine]

That's 1. Now resourcefulness used to escape and rat but who needs it when you jump through doors like a ghost

[final monolith]

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PLEASE WATCH ⁠#dnd-content latest vid
REWORK DRUID TRANSFORMATIONS COMPLETELY FOR NEXT SEASON
🧀🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[solemn lintel]

everyting woud be good if you have normals trios only, HR solo/duo/trio and PVE HR only its still a lot pools but every one have someting to play

[flint birch]

if true thats respectable. i had to apologize to a random cause my newbie friend killed him

[dreamy vine]

Ya only guns in arc i hear

[supple drift]

which one is better? remove rat or disable chicken fly?

or disable chicken fly (panther +chicken) but replace chicken's ability to chicken fly. So we can predict the cooldown like warlock phantomize.

[dreamy vine]

I used to protect timmies from geared in hr back when you could. Though they'd often take the opportunity to kill me

[final monolith]

yea, i think going in s2r to help timmies is a good way to give back, i try to do it often, and if they say they are new im suuuuuuuuuuuper nice
if they say they are vets and acts like newbies, im very mean >:)

[supple drift]

oh..

[coarse summit]

remove jumping through doors as rat and give shapeshift mastery stacks like soul collector

[supple drift]

[trail peak]

Just remove the ability to shape shift like a maniac tbh. I cannot remember a single game or story line where druid can shape shift 60times per minute. Like isn't that supposed to be the big ultimate thingy for them?

[final monolith]

i really would like if they could make the druid more like a fighting class, imagine like transformations would just give you the head of the animal youre transforming into, and would just do something like +5 agi or strenght and last for 5 seconds and needed to be cast for longer
then give him longsword lmao

[supple drift]

[solemn lintel]

xD thats legit shit hole

[coarse summit]

good

[solemn lintel]

druid should be reworked fully

[coarse summit]

it should be but they aint doing all that

[solemn lintel]

i would not move around chaning stuf like this

[final monolith]

i just had this idea but imagine shapeshift would like change your stats on the fly like and change only ur head

[dreamy vine]

Stacks for what?

[coarse summit]

stacks like it costs 1 to instantly transform

you would get them from killing mobs or doing other things idk

[drifting scaffold]

[fervent flint]

can anyone tell me current number of players in game currently? in lobby and in dungeon? thanks!

[gritty ermine]

Barbs, fighters and rogues laughing so hard right now

[dreamy vine]

Doesn't make sense lorr wise does it?

[coarse summit]

1.5k dungeon 1.6k lobby

[fervent flint]

daannngggggg

[little bronze]

add me for squire to riches

[coarse summit]

no but neither does transforming into 5 different forms in 2 seconds

[gritty ermine]

Let’s buff barb because why not. Make reckless one tap everything even if they in squire. Allow them to one tap arti kits while risking nothing

[solemn lintel]

but there will be still crying about that druid can just run away from fights, if you know what i mean

[static zodiac]

Maybe they should make it to where only the stat that the animal uses is applied upon transformation, lets say you have a 30 vigor 20 agi kit for druid, if you transform into panther you'd have your 20 agility but you'd have base vigor

[brazen mortar]

All I need is no self-cast bark skin and I can’t lose melee to them

[final monolith]

i cant post on dark and darker reddit** personally but i just had a crazy cool idea, imagine its like a fighter but hes a druid so u can cast panther; ONLY YOUR HEAD changes, not your body. your stats change like u get more dex and agi but lose str and vigor
if u cast bear u get +vigor+strenght and -dex-agi, rat could be +20 ressourcefulness -20 vigor or something

and like the character would kindof fight like a fighter except for his head and his stats changing

u see a barb ure like lemme get more str HP and try to longsword parry

they could switch to pantehr to chanse or rat to run but they would still be in human form, only their head would change.

Then give them decent fighting abilities. no chicken panther jump bs, no rats hiding under a table or a thru a wall, no BS
if panther head gave like +5 agi its not enough to run away since u cant change ur body nomore

[dreamy vine]

Druid should temporarily look like a clown when transforming that'd fix all

[brazen mortar]

Rat form but it has a cheese meter you need to fill or you get sent back to human

[static zodiac]

more cheese

[brazen mortar]

Cheese in the out of bounds mouse holes

[final monolith]

i need constructive criticism on this idea of the druid only shapeshifting his head and getting some minor stat changes
it could be a real class fighting melee but versatile

[brazen mortar]

Sometimes you have to fight an npc rat that has a thumbtack sword

[fervent flint]

thats a terrible idea ngl

[final monolith]

tell me why tho

[plain valve]

Or a human size person with an actual tiny rat head and the only bonus being that ur truly hard to headshot

but if the head touched u get one shot

[drifting scaffold]

Wait a time limit on shapeshift is giga brain

[coarse summit]

because minor stat changes wouldnt constitute an entire class

[final monolith]

i just want to completly rework druid transformations, watch this video if u dont think this is ruining the game
🧀🧀 🧀 🧀🧀
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REWORK DRUID TRANSFORMATIONS COMPLETELY FOR NEXT SEASON
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[brazen mortar]

Cheese needs to be included

Rat battle optional

[final monolith]

imagine druid casting panther he gets like a panther head only and like +5 agi -5 vigor and hes like similar to fighter in terms of stats.
they cant turn into an animal completly, they just make their stats different, they become versatile

every form would give small different stats changed for different situations but you would stay in <<human form>>. no more little rat form running thru the cracks or whatever

[static zodiac]

rocket jumper wizard subclass

[coarse summit]

how* much damage does a rat do to another rat

[final monolith]

u cant really hit another rat while being in rat form it doesnt happen

[coarse summit]

i want to make a tiny rat arena so people can bet gold on it

[final monolith]

thats a good idea, i love it

[solemn lintel]

druid shoud have only healing abilities like cleric and rogue need to get removed stelth if this can happen a lot of players would come back

[gritty ermine]

you know it’s ggs if none-druid players try to suggest rework for a class they don’t plan to play. Maybe I should also do this for rogue and so on and give y’all trash changes because it won’t bother me, I wont play those anyways

[final monolith]

in the new tavern 3d lobby map you can go in a 10v10 rat arena and bet gold winner takes all

[coarse summit]

peak

[static zodiac]

they should add mimic racing where you can bet on mimics

[final monolith]

THATD BE CRAZY YAK BROOOOOOOOOOOO

[fervent flint]

fr

[final monolith]

YAK YAK YAK YAK WAIT WAIT WAIT

[hybrid copper]

Any idea how long Krampus is sticking around? I have all the silver bells I need, im just waiting 3 more days to trade them in

[coarse summit]

probably til wipe

[final monolith]

hey man i got ideas for a druid transformations complete rework if youre down for a cool respectful conversation

[fervent flint]

its clear you have no idea what youre talking about, as he also mentioned

[final monolith]

im at like 2.5+k hours i think my opinion is valid. if you dont wanna read me, just look away from this peticular space of the internet where free speech is valid

[coarse summit]

🍿

[fervent flint]

youre hours are aside when i see you making these comments, which are terrible

[gritty ermine]

exactly

[final monolith]

<<terrible >> huh Man you have a way with words to make it so what you mean is so clear

[gritty ermine]

Chat I have another idea, let’s buff penguin

[final monolith]

and yes man no2 just saying exactly

[fervent flint]

nice. how does that change what i say. another great take LOL

[final monolith]

bros USE YOUR WORDS, MAKE ARGUMENTS
i got a full vid making points about how druid SHOULD be reworkd, can you argument why you DISAGREE, BECAUSE OF REASONS THAT U CAN ARTICULATE??

[coarse summit]

logic isnt allowed here

[static zodiac]

top ten kindest tavern chat conversations

[final monolith]

im trying to be nice but i dont even know what their point is, they just say im terrible....

its like that guy at a comedy club in the back, hiding in the shadows shouting <<YOU SUCK>> all of a sudden but then walks out

[coarse summit]

at least you are sharing ideas pop off king

[final monolith]

thanks bro LK 2026 people just bad vibing are called out

they cant form thought or coherent reasons why they have opinions

they just say <<hey i want this blue>>

<<NO SHOULD BE RED>> why tho UHHHHHH

[coarse summit]

because obviously

[final monolith]

ikr

[coarse summit]

point proven thank you

[final monolith]

hes typing and backspacing he should just backspace into somewhere else

alright
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i think my druid transformations into more like <<auras>> could be cool. You like change your stats according to which animal aura ure using

[gritty ermine]

Let’s remove hide from rogue and double jump simply because I don’t like it and call this a rework

[coarse summit]

true

[fervent flint]

this is actually pretty easy to tear apart once you frame it from a game design + class identity angle. druid in dark and darker is fundamentally about shapeshifting and adaptability through form, not stat toggles.
“+5 agi, -5 vigor but still human”
means the druid is no longer a shapeshifter ...they’re just a buff-stancing fighter
You’re not becoming an animal
You’re just pressing a button for numbers to go up/down
That’s not a druid that’s a spreadsheet class
It turns druid Into a worse fighter / better fighter (No In-Between)

i could go on but its wasted on you, you have no idea what youre talking about

[final monolith]

nah bro u did it, let me read that

other guy wiffed tho he just said <<cuz i dont like it>> thats not a rational thought

[quaint dagger]

the double jump aint too bad but if you think landmining isn't an issue then idk what to say

[fervent flint]

i promise that other guy has more knowledge than you as well when it comes to this...

[final monolith]

alright read it bro, youre basically saying druid shapeshift is a core identity of the druid. I agree.

[gritty ermine]

Thats what he was trying to do on purpose. He tries to spam this repoze brainwash and gives class advice that hes prolly even laughing about himself knowing damn well that it would be trash compared to what other melee focused classes come with

[warm fiber]

Can we give panther the double pounce back please? Class is to weak without it

[coarse summit]

wyvern form while theyre at it

[fervent flint]

Current Druid forms force real tradeoffs:
Rat → mobility, scouting, escape, but fragile
Panther → burst, speed, commitment
Bear → tankiness, slow, loud, risky
If you stay human and just change stats:
There’s no positional commitment
No hitbox change
No movement limitation
No sound or visibility downside
You just press the “correct stat mode” before every fight.
That’s not skill — that’s pre-fight optimization.

[final monolith]

druid is the talk of the moment. ill give u guys that. class is dominating in solos, for ratting, picking up loot, 3rd partying.
druid is associated heavily with transformations ill give u that

[quiet roost]

Weird question but does anyone else experience a random stutter/spike every few seconds when playing a specific character or being in a party of 3? Didnt have the issue all day now its happening every few seconds. Not bad just annoying. Internet is fine btw. If anyone has any helpful suggestions or fixes id appreciate it!

[final monolith]

yes thats what i fucking want,
no more infinite movement/disengage,
no more repositioning,
no more hitbox change,
no more chicken panther jump,
no more movement past the MS cap,
no more chicken double jump that goes off the map

what u saya bout bears being tanky and rats being i know that already

[quaint dagger]

i think people mostly dislike the movement escape capabilities, if that

is taken away they're chilling

[fervent flint]

That’s not skill — that’s pre-fight optimization
That’s not a druid that’s a spreadsheet class
It turns druid Into a worse fighter / better fighter (No In-Between)

[final monolith]

i HATE the movement escape capabilities. its the worse.

[nimble stump]

when is wipe?

[drifting scaffold]

I want the other players to stand totally still and never move while I beat them to death over the head

[gritty ermine]

Exactly, the forms are already well thought through and require actual skill to use perfectly. Druid might be the class that requires the most skill out of all melee classes. It’s not even close. Every form has downsides and your shifts are very limited with long cds. They already nerfed ssm this bad and now those people are still not happy and want to cut off our mobile basically tuning us into just the worse melee. Alright nice game sense guys. Let’s follow the opinion of one streamer that failed to actual catch the real essence. The problem he failed to explain is stream sniping. I don’t know about you guys but I don’t have like 5 naked druids back to back in my lobbies circling me waiting to third party

[nimble stump]

anyone know when wipe is

[fervent flint]

they are not ready to hear that druid takes one of the most skill out of all classes

[proud blaze]

3k players yeah time to hang it up

[final monolith]

thank you for reposting what i missed. yea my idea isnt perfect of course thought of it earlier.
not sure about thats not kill but i dont want them to reposition everywhere cuz u cant chase em.
it could turn the druid into a ranger for all i care, i dont want the druids to be in the game like they are no more

[drifting scaffold]

unfortunately US players all fell off when skill started to matter 🙁

[proud blaze]

no i think sdf's vision is just ass

[drifting scaffold]

lol ok

[final monolith]

3k players and theres still 1 month to go b4wipe, druids have tanked the playercount by 90%, but druid mains dont want to play another class or lose they OP little zoomy shitclass that can fly ?????????? in a game about POSITIONING? And punishing people that are separated?

[drifting scaffold]

“positioning” yea bud ppl playing never knew how to position so Druid taught ppl

[proud blaze]

and water map flopped everybody would rather kill themselves than play it

[final monolith]

i played chiv its not like i would try and go behind enemy lines

[drifting scaffold]

water map is better than goblin and ice map

[final monolith]

true, and i bet watermap was made cuz sdf wanted a penguin form and someplace to swim

[fervent flint]

this is just so far from the truth... wtf.....

[drifting scaffold]

underwater combat rules so hard but ppl can’t stand a challenge and new things to learn

[final monolith]

yea i kinda went a little heavy on the butter with this one, please ignore lol

[drifting scaffold]

god forbid u gotta learn something new in the skill based game

[fervent flint]

thats why every lobby i play theres just so many druids everywhere..... right......

[static zodiac]

underwater combat ez

[fervent flint]

oh lol xD

[quaint dagger]

I mean Druids have made gameplay cancer wouldn't be a stretch, for streamers mostly ofc

[drifting scaffold]

for solos** exclusively

[final monolith]

anyways, i havent heard any ideas coming from druid mains to <<rework completly transformations>> or any druid main talking about the fact its a lil OP
they just say <<buff penguin>> and keklmao im not sure they are the kind of players i even want in my game ya know

[fervent flint]

i see streamers deal with druids easily unless in a bad spot of map against bear,,,, what

[quaint dagger]

@drifting scaffold trios too but mostly for snagging loot

[static zodiac]

druid was one of the many nails that made the coffin, not the sole reason

[gritty ermine]

They know this already. Trust me secretly they tried to play druid, prolly died back to back and was like wtf is this trash class. They are just mad because some people managed to play better and smoke them as druids. Something what they are not able to do so they wanna kill the class

[drifting scaffold]

you’re the nail in the coffin bud

[quaint dagger]

w'ere not talking about pvp btw it's about their movement and rat capability

[fervent flint]

i know lol

[final monolith]

were arent saying a druid trading in a 1v1 might not die

[dreamy vine]

[drifting scaffold]

idk how tf a Druid kills you honestly none of their forms scare me

[fervent flint]

i legit only see frog crying about rat out of the streamers.... but he cries about any inconvience

[static zodiac]

[drifting scaffold]

🔨

[final monolith]

LK he did start talking smart after but that other guy viperstar is still in the limbo of namecalling and saying nonsense

[quaint dagger]

I'd say any of the decent viewer based streamers have like two rat rogues and 3 druids waiting on kits to fall

which puts them off from wanting to run kits

[opal knot]

From 18,000 to 3,000 players within weeks of deleting Solo & Duo queues. We can't blame that on "skill issue."

[drifting scaffold]

the best Druid player ever was someone who legit used panther form to stalk me from the darkness. every other one just runs around the map like a fly

[fervent flint]

bbro theres no way you just make this up on the spot... wtf xD

[final monolith]

we allknow a druid fighting someone else in a 1v1 is a lil weak, this gotta feel like ass. We wanna say, remove the infinite disengage, remove the MS shit maybe we buff up druid so you can actually fight and die with your bros with honor

[quaint dagger]

I mean i legit counted on maybe 4/5 different streams

@fervent flint it's aids

[drifting scaffold]

when I’m in a doomer competition and my opponent is a dark and darker streamer 🤯 what’re you gonna over exaggerate next?

[gritty ermine]

Repoze failed to actually catch the real essence. Stream snipers, rogues could even third party him a lot worse with perks that are specifically made for that

[fervent flint]

yeah still no, you havent

[final monolith]

he is right, a rat druid can just follow a barb until he fights someone and then 3rd party whoever is left

[quaint dagger]

@fervent flint i mean you can cope and say it's bullshit but yeah

[fervent flint]

its the chinese rmt players who have esp and can see the goop they have, then stream snipers. never crying about druids after last nerf.... unless its frog LOL

[opal knot]

I don't understand what you think is being exaggerated. We have receipts for this.

[final monolith]

no its true, some streamers have resident rats just watching the stream and taking scraps

thats called a stream sniper rat

[gritty ermine]

And guess what classes those chinese cheaters love to play. Everything but not druid lol. Yes man but druid so op 😂. There is a reason why they enjoy using reckless barb so much or rogues

[final monolith]

please expand on what you mean here

[fervent flint]

not 4/5 streamers... and its not a druid problem. thats just stream snipers. i see more with rogues

[dreamy vine]

Did you watch the video he wasn't streaming and they was 6 druid in middle goblin caves

[final monolith]

i think chinese are teamers usually so they use cleric PVE to ez clear and warlock to protect. they dont mind druids since theyll hold em off each time and get the pve loot

[fervent flint]

or max ms warlock and curse run away till you die.

[drifting scaffold]

lmao no you don’t you’re lying thru your teeth solos was never removed and we were much lower than 3k during us time during the semi semi wipe

[final monolith]

exactly. Cheaters are cheating diffently, lets ignore them for now, lets not* change OUR game for them

[dusty river]

i think you should get better honestly

[drifting scaffold]

it was always a (dumb) experiment to combine all the queues

[gritty ermine]

Exactly. You will see them on every class but not druid. Surely has a reason huh

[static zodiac]

Solos WAS removed

[drifting scaffold]

anytime some goes “omg I can’t believe solos was removed” I know they’re illiterate

[final monolith]

the reason is they are teaming with other people, and druid is not a team class, its a solo class

(if youre still talking about rmters chinese)

[fervent flint]

you are correct. druid stomps solo squire lobbies but anything hr youre getting 2-3 hit

[quaint dagger]

i dont think you're quite catching the essence of it all, bluefire wants to change the whole class which a bit exaggerated. All i said is their movement is cancer for all types of gameplay same with rogue stealth

[opal knot]

Forgive me for taking you seriously, I didn't realize you were just here to troll with nonsense.

[gritty ermine]

But wasnt you complaing about solos originally in the first place? You start to contradict yourself more and more. I start to get the feeling that you just in here to spread brainwash about a class that you simply personally dislike

[final monolith]

but nobody gives a rats ass about chinese RMTers, we cant influence what they do. We just want a normal GC middle room without chickens and rats croaking in the walls

[fervent flint]

your point was more focused on druid. but now added in rogue

[granite surge]

Lets keep it friendly and respectful in here please.

[drifting scaffold]

you’re right that was mean

[final monolith]

? huh theres so many IFs in your statement bro

[final monolith]

chinese teamers team with other solos??? they queue up seperatly but act friendly?

[coarse summit]

mods having to read all these messages is so funny to me

[quiet roost]

real talk tho my buddies and i just came back and the game does feel dead... But the game feels good in my opinion

[gritty ermine]

Nah fr 😂

[subtle rose]

You can say chinese again? NANI?!

[quaint dagger]

they're both dreadful for the gameplay loop

[final monolith]

anyways viperstar your only point is <<HEY if druid is broken, chinese RMTers would use it! therefore it ISNT!!! thats not very strong

[fervent flint]

hes confused and lost with the own points he tried to make.... this is why i didnt want to give my points in the first place as its lost with a player like this. back to what i was saying he clearly has no idea what hes talking about

[final monolith]

nah u guys are mixed up

[fervent flint]

sure LOL

[final monolith]

when did i complain about solo or whatever

[granite surge]

🥺

[fervent flint]

its literally in text. scroll up

[gritty ermine]

😂

[final monolith]

im saying druid is OP in solos cuz he can** disengage and 3rd party. Also hide in walls.
also saying in solos, the rmters kinda use cleric AND walrock (yes they queue up at the same time, meet in game and play toghether)
i said druid wouldnt fit that bill, thats why they dont do it

[dreamy vine]

We shouldn't take training over a game personally 😅

[coarse summit]

😔

[final monolith]

❤️

[coarse summit]

both parties need to understand neither of you are going to agree on anything youre wasting your time replying to eachother lol

[final monolith]

wasting time???? life is time being wasted, not the other way around 😉

[fervent flint]

bro even argued on that xD

[coarse summit]

that was a joke bro

[coarse summit]

ok plato xd

[final monolith]

im not arguing on yak i love him yeah its more like a plato time shit

like philosophical
are we wasting time
or time is wasting us typeshit

[coarse summit]

are you high bro lmao

[fervent flint]

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[final monolith]

bruh dont tell the warden what i take to spam the tavern

[coarse summit]

huffing that zombie gas i see

[final monolith]

LOVE IT! ❤️ +1

[warm fable]

this rat problem is insane, yamii vid
#dnd-content message

[gritty ermine]

Wait until he finds out that you also play Druid @gaunt oracle

[final monolith]

🧀🧀 🧀 🧀🧀
PLEASE WATCH ⁠#dnd-content latest vid
REWORK DRUID TRANSFORMATIONS COMPLETELY FOR NEXT SEASON
🧀🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[warm fable]

@final monolith spam this

[fervent flint]

its repoze... he can make any class look busted xD

[final monolith]

i was earlier and i got the green light from wardens to spam it exactly like this
🧀🧀 🧀 🧀🧀
PLEASE WATCH ⁠#dnd-content latest vid
REWORK DRUID TRANSFORMATIONS COMPLETELY FOR NEXT SEASON
🧀🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[opal knot]

He doesn't play Druid, he is Druid.

[final monolith]

true

but doesnt mean he would make a video about fighter being busted rn

[gaunt oracle]

wym "play" druid? 😛

[final monolith]

apebio aint a druid

[fervent flint]

whatever class he puts a video for, its usually a title like this...

[coarse summit]

clickbait works

[final monolith]

bruh come on you know theres a problem, cant you at least say you think theres a problem?

infinite disengage, 3rd partying...everything is oK?

[coarse summit]

and the cycle starts again

[final monolith]

🧀🧀 🧀 🧀🧀
PLEASE WATCH ⁠#dnd-content latest vid
REWORK DRUID TRANSFORMATIONS COMPLETELY FOR NEXT SEASON
🧀🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[drifting scaffold]

he’s been at it all day kind of impressive

[gaunt oracle]

they could nerf druid to have 0 dmg scaling in forms, remove rat, remove chicken, remove panther, make bear have 5 HP... won't matter. I'll still be druid

[drifting scaffold]

Druid is the new multiclass

[coarse summit]

its not the latest vid anymore you gotta change your copy paste

[final monolith]

@coarse summit bro tho yak LK if ure rich buy ironmace and ill fix the game make it to 50k cocurrents within a year guaranteed

[final monolith]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gritty ermine]

Same over here. I am just a junky for mobily. Always have been. Was enjoying fast pvp games like quake etc. but the moment they really take out our mobility entirely is the moment I stop playing druid

[final monolith]

@warm fable you did this to me 😠 i cant say repoze in tavern how shall i fix it

[fervent flint]

people have always cried over druid, no matter what nerfs are given to druid, they still cry. yet thats why all my lobbies are filled with druids right? nope.....
3rd partying is not a druid problem. rogues are worse.

[coarse summit]

i believe it

[final monolith]

they nerf only his stats, not his movement around the map or loot grabbing capacities

[drifting scaffold]

they did that tho, bofa dem

panther jump got nerfed 2-3 times and the looting was just changed right?

[final monolith]

id start with the comeback of the waiting room tavern where the little tables and downstairs dummies and a jail and fireplace, and otto, and now where u can bet on 10v10

[gaunt oracle]

its versatility for me. I like having lots of options for dealing with situations ingame. I like having bear for breaking shit, chicken for getting into weird areas to rest/observe, etc

[fervent flint]

druid takes high skill expression hense why hardly anyone plays it. but when you go against a good druid player it will seem busted af if they dump you. but its too easy to out space bear and get hits in between attacks even with high action speed, and panther is still 2 hit headshot no matter the hp. its just a skill problem with you

[misty ridge]

genji

[warm fable]

hense why hardly anyone plays it.

[static zodiac]

hense why hardly anyone plays it.

[coarse summit]

🔥

[final monolith]

i hate the fact druids can move that much. i want that to stop. Movespeed and position is too important

[gaunt oracle]

if druid mobility or utility get nerfed that would be the only thing to push me away. Sorc looks versatile as hell. If druid gets removed or gutted I'll be a sorc

[gritty ermine]

yeah and this too. I could play the class for more 2k hours and it wouldn’t get boring because of the depth this class has. It’s also the class with the most skill expression

[fervent flint]

true. thats why your lobbies are filled with druids right?? its max 1-2 per lobby of 15 players xD

[misty ridge]

Sorcerer isn't too great right now

got lots of nerfed

[final monolith]

you didnt talk about the fact the druid does not need to fight you, he can just hang around until you fight someone else

[quaint dagger]

https://gyazo.com/8d75bc7a4dde315d932cfc2a300af4cc hold on

[fervent flint]

thats any class with high mms

[gaunt oracle]

it has utility tho, which is all that interests me. glaciate and lightning dash are lookin real good. plus it can break doors like my beloved bear

[final monolith]

No. any class can be caught up on eventually except druid

[static zodiac]

druid can surpass 330 ms

[final monolith]

and thats not ok

[fervent flint]

no. max mms is 330. given position and class vs class its not just a druid thing.... wtf

[gritty ermine]

And a barb in piss can 2 tap people in turbo

[static zodiac]

so can bear

[final monolith]

druids can exceed 330 ms

[gritty ermine]

Not even close to reckless lmfao. Bear with squire does not that sorta damage buddy

[fervent flint]

bear is too easy to space vs barb and his buffs

[static zodiac]

plus, plus insane heals, plus ability to disengage at any time

[gritty ermine]

What heals? Most run ssm

[static zodiac]

On headshot, yes it does

[opal knot]

Being able to cycle through six different hitbox sizes, launch clear across dungeon modules in seconds, walk through doors without opening them, etc... All things that leave people who have to deal with a Druid feeling like Druids are playing by different rules with handicaps in their favor.

[visual swallow]

you can still run healing grove with ssm lol

[static zodiac]

the heals druid has can nearly full heal

[fervent flint]

druids can not exceed 330. only by panther chicken jump. rogues can have 330 and go invis to create more space, its not just a druid problem

[final monolith]

you didnt adress the fact a druid can just HANG AROUND until people fight to third party since noone can really chase him @fervent flint

[gritty ermine]

Look thats exactly what I meant. People that don’t play druid at all make all this fucking shiit up

[gaunt oracle]

tbh I hope they DO nerf druid into the dirt. I've been a druid main since test and the class has always been too strong and universally despised

[static zodiac]

rogue only 330 in kit, not squire like druid

[visual swallow]

if you played druid you'd know you can still heal with ssm lmao

[final monolith]

druids can not exceed 330. ONly by panther chicken jump. SO THEY CAN?????

[fervent flint]

warlocks and create the space with 330 ms then block off doors for more space with there hydra... its not a druid thing

[quaint dagger]

[slate hawk]

[fervent flint]

squire druid panther does not rreach 330 LOL

[gritty ermine]

again what heals, most run ssm. Mending is stationary and doesnt heal you fully up

[quaint dagger]

hard to reach 330 without sacrificing major stats, can jump over hydra

[static zodiac]

heals a good amount

[visual swallow]

it heals plenty lol

[fervent flint]

once every 15 sec, the other options i gave for the other classes to create space is on a way shorter cooldown, funny how you tried to grab onto that though

[warm fable]

Hardly anyone plays warlock good. Anyone can phantomize down a Ranger but to fight a fighter or barb takes more brain than just “right click with halberd”.

[fervent flint]

LOL

[gritty ermine]

Just like blue meds could and I could move while doing so lol

[final monolith]

bro just ACKNOLEDGE what ive asked you TO ACKNOWLEDGE PLEASE. i asked you to say what do u think about that druid can just hang around, and wait for a third party since he cant really be CHASED to be KILLED

waht do u have to say about that

[visual swallow]

/roll eyes

[warm fable]

Hardly anyone plays bard good. Anyone can shot down a Ranger but to fight a fighter or barb takes more brain than just “right click with rapier

[fervent flint]

i replied already that its not just a druid problem, hence why i gave the options other classes use to maintain space at a faster rate than druid can panther chicken jump. youre stuck

[final monolith]

i REFUTED WHAT U SAID by saying that its not true!!!! let me explain

any other class can be actually ran after until they have to fight, even max MS classes

[gritty ermine]

I know that you enjoyed the pdr longsoys. Let’s switch topics and talk about them and their unjustified acces to all bow types with no penalty. Somehow fighters even have the right to move fast even in full plates with up to 60%+ pdr. Why is nobody talking about busted shiit like this in here huh

[visual swallow]

wat

[final monolith]

i know youre trying to make sense and rational thoughts and i appreciate it but you just gotta be a little clearer

[fervent flint]

not when rogues have max mms and then go invis, reposition. or sorcs who can teleport completly, or warlocks who can block off doors. all on a shorter cooldown than panther chicken jump

[visual swallow]

lol it's 10x easier to hit rogues when they're invis than a druid

[static zodiac]

for a perk slot? of all things fighter having bows of all things isnt a gamebreaking issue like druid is

[final monolith]

alright so im saying all other classes can be actually chased until they will fight at some point. the thing is druid will just hide into a crack in the wall and your cant do ANYTHING. warlocks will come out of phantom, rogues will run out of hide, etc

[slate hawk]

[civic oriole]

do people still play this game?

[quaint dagger]

barely

[final monolith]

no and were figuring out why TONIGHT

[fervent flint]

bro doesnt know how to deal with rats in one place behind something,.... theres so many options ahahahaha

[civic oriole]

wdym

[final monolith]

bro u say explosive bottle one more oopsy daisies time

[quaint dagger]

just kill the golem under the tower whilst they rat jump through the bars silly

[fervent flint]

thats only one option of many. glad you say theres ways to kill your point previously though....

[coarse summit]

10k bounty to whoever kills a geared player with only a pickaxe ill throw in 2 spectral bags if the clip is funny

[final monolith]

its not like they will just stand there forever while i kill a golem and hit a swtich, they left and healed

[fervent flint]

[quaint dagger]

@final monolith i'm messing with you

[final monolith]

bruhs any class that has real AOE will get panthered down

[fervent flint]

...... yeah im done with this guy. crazy

[opal knot]

You think it's unjustified for a professional man-at-arms, a career warrior, to know how to properly shoot a bow?

[final monolith]

a good druid will just chicken jump a lil

[fervent flint]

this guy xD

[final monolith]

nah LK nobody dies to explosive bottles in HR

[fervent flint]

,,,,, bro

[final monolith]

watch the new repoze video jsut the first 3 minutes

[fervent flint]

yeah...

[final monolith]

cuz its very condensed information

[fervent flint]

hes just bent on it cause he saw a video... crazy

[final monolith]

what i have to say about what u said tho gimme a sec

[pure sinew]

im ing rn and I can not use abilities nor can i attack or heal my keys are not working shit game shit game shit game shit game

[gritty ermine]

so let me sum it up, they are tanky asf, have ranged acces and are relatively fast for being in full plates with swiftness perk and skills that alow him to close gaps easily. Only downside that you could argue is low mdr but for some funny reasons they also have perks and skills to deal with that basically negating the issue. So whats even the downside of this fucking class in particular since yall also picked one class to shiit on it. Tell me I am curious

[fervent flint]

goodnight. i hope you learn more bluefire

[final monolith]

true, druid has a high skill ceiling. a good druid can basically never die because of his escaping abilities. he can trade when he wants and just watch other fights
i dont play sword shield
i dont like druids

[coarse summit]

melee never interested me in this game i just cast fireball

[final monolith]

dont be afraid to watch a video its just 3 minutes it just expressed perfectly what is wrong with druid rn its better than be doing a halfass job of explaining thru this tavern

[opal knot]

So, what are you suggesting? That the guy whose class is all about physical touch-range combat should not be able to get close enough to fight people, or be protected enough to survive when it happens?

[coarse summit]

is there subway surfers on half the video? 3 minutes is a long time to concentrate

[fervent flint]

after everything that was explained to you,,,, you say this. yeah man youre always gonna hate druid. with no proper reasons

[static zodiac]

druid nerf soon

[final monolith]

alright so viper, i think fighters are strong but at least when u wanna kill one, you go at it fight it, and he dies or he kills you. Druids will just hand around and watch you like creeps, prevent u from fighting other players... makes me so BORED when i see one, i know i cant fight anyone else

[gritty ermine]

I think most people in here forget that druid has zero ranged acces besides the laughable orb of nature and dreamfire. You must actually respect a druid, because if hes sending it in with his squishy panther hes going all in, basically trying to kill you or getting easily killed if landing poor combos or getting hit first. Also the argument of a druid could easily retreat is bs if the druid is already on its target. Not to mention that they already lose 1-2 charges before the real fight even begins leaving them barely options to retreat. The more I talk in here the less I get the feeling that most in here ever played druid

[final monolith]

bruh there are so many reason to want druid changes i can list them AGAIN for u if u want

[fervent flint]

you already did and i listed why your reasons are wrong. compared to other classes that actually needs change. as others also told you too

[final monolith]

druids SHOULD be reworked/deleted, because of their ABILITY TO DISENGAGE AND 3RD PARTY!!!!!!!!!! can anyone of those druid defenders adress this BIG PROBLEM

other classes do not have this set of skills, not rogues, not locks

[fervent flint]

i did 3 different times....

[final monolith]

I TOLD U WE CAN CHASE LOCKS AND ROGS DOWN, not DRUIDS

[fervent flint]

yikes. bad take again

[final monolith]

u never adressed THE BAD TAKE

[static zodiac]

average fighter vs fireball

[fervent flint]

i did 3 seperate times

[gritty ermine]

I think you are just trying to make sense with rational thoughts, but you must be alot more clear, rather than spamming the same bs over and over again like a repoze groupie fanboy

[coarse summit]

1 hour of this debate can we have a tea break

[final monolith]

WHY WOULD A DRUID BE ABLE TO JUST RUN AWAY FOR EVER FROM EVERY OTHER CLASSS?

[gritty ermine]

keep spamming this brainwash, maybe some people even fall for that, good luck with it

[visual swallow]

really satisfying to kill rats with judgment

[final monolith]

its not like an explosive bottle is gonna kill a druid thats just watching you fight a barb

[fervent flint]

dont let him know that

[gritty ermine]

yeah but druid op u know

[fervent flint]

yeah man druid op remove druid xD

[final monolith]

druid is bad in 1v1, god in waiting for 3rdparty

[visual swallow]

implying that because they're not literally immortal that they're balanced

[coarse summit]

🐧

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[final monolith]

yeah dont start the emoji spam BS please

[dreamy vine]

Druid is supposed to be flexible like he said so they have a tool for every situation right

[fervent flint]

hey guys lets turn druid into a fighter, change the form of head to animal form but keep them as a human with a few stat changes based on their form

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[fervent flint]

ahahahahaha

[dreamy vine]

So why would anyone play anything else?

[gritty ermine]

😂 🔥

[final monolith]

Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

[dreamy vine]

Sees 12 druid in dungeon. O...

[final monolith]

Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[keen zephyr]

Crocodilian with a open sallet looks funny

[final monolith]

Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[gritty ermine]

according to wardens spam is allowed in here

[fervent flint]

its clear blue fire is just upset now, no point in continuing

[coarse summit]

the spamming war begins theyve finally lost it 😔

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[final monolith]

it is.

Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[fervent flint]

hes so upset xDDD

[final monolith]

Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[gritty ermine]

yeah directly assulting, seems like you little bit mad now buddy

[final monolith]

not rly, i think you never made any sense ur probly not so bright

[coarse summit]

mods are watching

[drifting scaffold]

it takes a little more than 1 brain cell or else I wouldn’t watch people flub the rat door window tech or the panther chicken tech

[fervent flint]

he regressed so hard, after begging for a articulated discussion. dude is long gone mentally. explains his great druid into fighter changes

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[final monolith]

bruh adress this
Druids are literally immortal if played with more than 1 braincell, is that balanced??? HMMMMMMMMM WHO KNOWS

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[fervent flint]

we did too many times.

[final monolith]

you didnt tho

[gritty ermine]

now he doesnt know what to do because his mission failed and somehow the chat even demands druid buffs, its breaking his sense of how the world works

[fervent flint]

multiple times

[final monolith]

theres only 2 of you lmao

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[dreamy vine]

You're right it takes macros

[gritty ermine]

his brainwashing failed

he wasnt clear enough

[fervent flint]

others than us chimed in about your points and classes having other options to deal with your points. LOL i guess we arent in the same chat

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[final monolith]

brother i adressed ur counterpoint about rat disengage and throwing bottles doesnt work on good druids
aoes are like wizs and sorc, they get run down by panther

[gritty ermine]

@quaint carbon where you at if we need you gang

[drifting scaffold]

the truth comes out

[fervent flint]

and then someoen else mentioned that almost every class has an aoe option to deal with rats,

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[dreamy vine]

Maybe if more druid mains gang up on him your hate will be satiated

[gritty ermine]

fight fire with fire type shiit

[dreamy vine]

But then it takes 1

[fervent flint]

the mad wizard hates druids cause i legit kill him all the time xD

[final monolith]

ON GOD YOU CALL THIS GUY??????? BRO HES THE WORSE

[gritty ermine]

oh I already knew that hes hating on druids, he made that clear more than enough

[final monolith]

@fervent flint ok adress this now
BlueFire

— 8:16 PM
brother i adressed ur counterpoint about rat disengage and throwing bottles doesnt work on good druids
aoes are like wizs and sorc, they get run down by panthe

are we in the same chat???

[fervent flint]

he does not know how to deal with druids so ofc hes gonna not like them. he plays use

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥

[dreamy vine]

Don't get emotional over a class you play in a video now your happiness is worth more than that

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🔥 NERF WIZARD NERF WIZARD NERF WIZARD NERF WIZARD

[fervent flint]

yeah look at the messages after. youll see my response and 3 others reply to your comment

[final monolith]

ok

[final monolith]

OK but thats not true?

barb fighter, no aoe. rog. no aoe... more???

cleric only caster cleric...

[dreamy vine]

Druid has progressively made solos worse over time not sure you can argue that and that's the only point I've ever tried to make

[gritty ermine]

you must be more detailed buddy, I know you trying, just trying to make sense, but beside spam you lack the sense

[fervent flint]

for you yes.. as you die to them all the time. other players have learned to space bear and headshot panther

[gritty ermine]

no shiit you a caster, enjoy the neckbite

[final monolith]

you cant make points with druid main they cant even adress the infinite disengage 3rd party problem their class thrive on

[gritty ermine]

wizard mad about the hardcounter to his class ggs

[fervent flint]

multiple people have

[dreamy vine]

For every class

[visual swallow]

I mean the latest repoze video speaks for itself, every match is 8 druids sitting around in chicken and rat form waiting to 3rd party anyone dumb enough to get in a fight

[gritty ermine]

yall know the meme with the guy singing while playing because this shiit so mad easy, thats those wizards spamming aoe stuff that hits like a truck until they run into a druid

[dreamy vine]

Wait do they actually think druid didn't make solos god awful for other classes?

[final monolith]

did u answer my:
OK but thats not true?
barb fighter, no aoe. rog. no aoe... more???cleric only caster cleric...
with for you yes.. as you die to them all the time. other players have learned to space bear and headshot panther???? @fervent flint

[gritty ermine]

enjoy the fucking neckbites frfr

[fervent flint]

thats not eveery match, just the matches he chose to show. whish is only a few out of a LOT of games

[hushed violet]

you saw that on lorr stream right?

[dreamy vine]

There's just no way you can be that delusional

[slate hawk]

[final monolith]

so ok, lets go from here, you say every class has an aoe to deal w rat druids. answer is YOU LIED! now what

[gritty ermine]

yeah surely now delusional, go to wardens now because I was hurting your feelings by speaking facts about your class

[quaint dagger]

I’m surprised you’re still arguing with the Druid main tbh

[fervent flint]

dont get upset over a video game right madwizard? 😉

[final monolith]

i ignored viper btw i cant see his messages i never thought one of his msgs was clever

[gritty ermine]

whos next? yall getting boring, Ima head into the dungeons and look for some casters to neckbite

[final monolith]

bro we did not finish our conversation gimme like 2 more exchanges

[gaunt oracle]

If druid is so OP and too difficult to kill just play druid. I don't see the problem

[hushed violet]

you are being delusional every game i see druid rats

[gritty ermine]

maybe make more wild suggestions like the one of yours: turning druid into a trash melee version that has zesty head skins that doesnt feel like a druid anymore asthetic and immersion wise, while just getting like 2-4+ to stats. Meanwhile other classes get insane boosts on perks and skills. keep those coming please, yall cookin

[final monolith]

@fervent flint so you said everyclass had aoes to deal with druids that infinite disengage. 1) thats not true 2) that doesnt mean you can really prevent a druid from runnning away and watching you fight someone else

[fervent flint]

i have multiple times just for you to backtrack and repeat already previous statments that were proven not true, all your answers are in the text you can scroll up

[final monolith]

thats not true at least be real with me and say im done

[quaint dagger]

Become the problem too let’s gooo

[hushed violet]

how does barb deal with druid rats LOL

[final monolith]

thats why GC is like 7 druids in middle room

[fervent flint]

yes you are done. regressing and repeating already responded to points

[quaint dagger]

They want you to bring in explosive bottles

[queen totem]

no patch and no date for wipe ?

[hushed violet]

he mean to say im done in your stand point

[hushed violet]

thats too much effort

[fervent flint]

barb spaces bear and 3 hits them in head with squire barb vs juiced bear LOL

[quaint dagger]

That’s his counter argument pretty much

[hushed violet]

NO?

[dreamy vine]

If you are not a druid you can not fight if you have a druid following you waiting for you fight in solos or you will be at tremendous disadvantage. Please reconcile this people blinded by their own druid play ▶️

[final monolith]

alright lets agree to disagree. i thought our conversation ended when you lied about everyclass having an aoe, and me saying that only wizs sorcs and clerics with spells have aoes and that they would get run down by panther. Also, it doesnt really prevent a druid from running away and watching you fight someone and waiting to 3rd party.
This is the fact that makes it broken. druids can just 3rdparty instantly

[quaint dagger]

he's under the impression every class can do the same thing to the same degree

[ashen epoch]

where do i apply for troubadour

[dreamy vine]

Always but in anything really

[gaunt oracle]

someone @ me when the streamers drop the video complaining about rogues and wizards after the druid nerf

[fervent flint]

madwizard dies every lobby to panther druid while sitting there trying to magic missle it.... no one takes you serious

[gritty ermine]

dont tell them that one, they are not ready for that one

[final monolith]

wizards get deleted by druids, its not even fair. if you die as a druid vs a wizard you really are bad

[quaint dagger]

i mean the guy did say how does barb deal with a druit rat

[fervent flint]

even melee wizard can 2 hit panther LOL

[gritty ermine]

or that one madwizard complaining about neckbite like browski you forgot that you can get landmined with cutthroat huh? its ten times worse cause you dont even see that shiit coming, surely we forgot about that one

[quaint dagger]

okay that's cap, ignite build maybe

[dreamy vine]

Well you see that's delusion or miscalculation right? You can transparently prove the truth mathematically so no need for emotions to keep spitting at each other here right? Or AITA

[final monolith]

lmao ok i understand why we didnt finish our conversation. you were fast to say im thick but now i see the truth

[fervent flint]

kora... what else would i mean by that,... ofc ignite....

[true forge]

when wipe

[dreamy vine]

Immediate red herring thanks 😊 love a good fried fish

[gritty ermine]

every class has hardcounters, so has druid lol and if you say else yall didnt play this class

A good ranger will smoke a druid every given day

[final monolith]

if anyone think druid struggles vs any wizard, they are delusional

[gritty ermine]

like come on dawg, be more creative, keep the cope coming

[quaint dagger]

your name makes more sense now clearly the ignite has stung a few times

[fervent flint]

..... ignite 2 hits panther

[dreamy vine]

Wait are you thick

[true forge]

when is wipe

[fervent flint]

im not even a druid main. nice try tho kora?

[gritty ermine]

damn you so tuff kuro

[final monolith]

i was talking to nerfmeleewiz
but yes thick af under the sheet 😉

[limber cairn]

sorc op

[gritty ermine]

sorc op! still is, but dont tell morty or he gets mad

[quaint dagger]

hella tuff surely

[quaint dagger]

that class is in the meat grinder

[final monolith]

viperstar is kinda dumb i just ignored his msgs ngl

[dreamy vine]

Right but not every class can avoid all fights so it leads to imbalance in solos. But stating the obvious is getting boring so have fun y'all

[fervent flint]

you def did not ignore his messages xD wrong again

[final monolith]

exactly THANK YOU

[dreamy vine]

🫃

[gritty ermine]

yes sorc is so poor right now such a bad class ahahahah I have seen actual good sorcs still fucking cookin arti players while just being in blues. Its still op, but requires more skill because you need to land all of your combos and keep an eye on the cds. But surely if something isnt easy anymore, its bad

[final monolith]

you made it clear and perfectly short

[fervent flint]

themadwizard is over 1000 fame level on wizard alone, yet still hard locked in norms dying in over half his lobbies that i see him in.... hes a pve player

[gritty ermine]

😂

[final monolith]

hey mad wizard can i spam what you said?

[quaint dagger]

did you see that one foxman video sounds like you did lol i mean idk every time i see a sorcerer i laugh cos i mean it's terrible

[gritty ermine]

I also have seen that one and even him admitting that plasma bomb is beyond naughty

[final monolith]

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

TheMadWizard — 8:30 PM
Right but not every class can avoid all fights so it leads to imbalance in solos. But stating the obvious is getting boring so have fun y'all

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

would look something like this

[fervent flint]

bro is quoting the mad wizard xDDD

[gritty ermine]

😂

[quaint dagger]

seen sorc players running full uniques with like double sub attributes +3 and it legit just gets dumpstered i think most of them who play it left are bad

[final monolith]

plasma bomb was OP in arenas earlier this season, i think it was shadow nerfed when the cast time for electric dash was increased?
it can still work tho, u just need instacast

[final monolith]

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

TheMadWizard — 8:30 PM
Right but not every class can avoid all fights so it leads to imbalance in solos. But stating the obvious is getting boring so have fun y'all

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[fervent flint]

please keep doing that xD

[final monolith]

ok

youre the only one that has a personal relationship with mad wizard cuz u saw him in the killfeed sometime, maybe he was faustian bargain farming btw if u saw him die to pve repeatedly

[gritty ermine]

sorc doesnt need that type of good gear to be broken, just blues with true magic on all pieces is already enough, meanwhile the druid that yall fear so much is the most stat hungry class in the game. For me it doesnt matter this wipe because I am rich to levels most people in here cant even imagine, but that doesnt make it any better. Surely panther druid hurts if you run that turbo turbo, but good luck buying these kits over and over again. Druid has their hardcounters and will die from time to time in very unfourtant moments, so you will also lose more gold on this class than on any other class because a druid with no gear is just insanely bad if you really go into a raid to purely pvp

[fervent flint]

even reaches to say hes faustion when you arent there,,,, the reaches man... just to be right. wrong again. i see him not sometimes... A LOT ahahaha

[final monolith]

thats correct, thank you for posting

[quaint dagger]

blue bis druid is pretty good

[final monolith]

druid in full bis is alright too, if u see a player that you think is skilled enough to kill you, you can always just extract

[gritty ermine]

for highroller against the actual juiced people these days? pff hell no, maybe if you outplay them, which is possible, not saying its not, but its not pretty good lol

[final monolith]

thank you mods im sorry i insulted viper but now hes making real points

[fervent flint]

bro has all the tips. yet lacks crucial game knowledge. man who knew i could just extract thanks man xD

[gritty ermine]

or not even juiced, a fucking squire barb with reckless will cook you in a blue bis kit if not careful

[drifting scaffold]

Anyone in squire can cook the blue bis

[coarse summit]

extract in an extraction game thats news to me

[fervent flint]

yeah this guys clueless, goodnight all

[quaint dagger]

i think in blue bis full agi kit my mate 3/4 tapped a 150hp caster that's pretty solid no?

[drifting scaffold]

I thought the goal was to ape other players or die trying

[final monolith]

i got a warn but im not even sure what i said i said so much stuff, its probly about viper tho, im sorry viper btw if i was mean earlier

[gritty ermine]

I agree with you on that one. Its just alright and nothing more, not that crazy to be feared, but once a barb for example puts on insane gear, talking full uniques etc, they will reach a point where you can simply not kill them or outdamage them in a damage trading, allowing them to w everybody down, it doesnt matter you will simply stat everything that dares to fight back

[final monolith]

yes BIS barb is scary cool, he might even be able to chase a druid to force him into ratform
even on 330MS he probly can just statcheck everyone except fighter and cleric

tho if u go 330ms, crush, u cant really go toe to toe with a real fighter, youll have to kite him i think

[gritty ermine]

a juiced barb is able to catch up with the druid that yall said is able to run away from everything lol

[long mantle]

Where the QA boys

[fervent flint]

ahahahahahahaha

[gritty ermine]

its facts bro, okay maybe the rat door jumps but they break that shiit

good luck escaping a fast barb

[flint birch]

thinking your waiting atleast another week for that if not more

[fervent flint]

hes all over the place, glad i stayed to see that one

[final monolith]

well a barb might have 20 mobs behind him using crush and W keying a druid until he does some ratform under a chair or thru a wall, maybe barb throws a molotovs and hope the druid was carelessly half hp

[coarse summit]

Achilles lantern needs to go

[quaint dagger]

@coarse summit dont see many achilles players these days they be loving Reckless

[gritty ermine]

so as you can see the balance itself is not an easy topic because there is multiple types of broken shiit in the game as for right now

[gritty ermine]

good barbs run both actually, achilles combined with reckless

they dont even use rage anymore

[final monolith]

i thought you left, im not talking to u anymore sadly i did not adress multiples points i made and u also allegaedly** lied at some point

[quaint dagger]

be slow as fuck no

[gritty ermine]

I am not a barb main, dont ask me why, its just how it is

[gritty ermine]

they stack shiittons of agi and wear clothes with high hp

[final monolith]

shit rly

[gritty ermine]

they still tanky but fast

[coarse summit]

not hard to be fast on barb suprisingly

[quaint dagger]

i only ever tend to see high hp goobers 190+ some agi but rely on rage

[gritty ermine]

exactly, you dont need rage for that if you got shiit like berserk perk

[final monolith]

barb has another whole set of problems i could adress tomorrow lmao

i would change a lot fo things about the game NGL

[fervent flint]

yeah i am now, but also wrong again. 0 for 20 at this point

[coarse summit]

youd need a barb defender to debate tho

[gritty ermine]

good luck on that

[quaint dagger]

did you ever answer his genuine question of how can they fix druid having too much escapability?

[final monolith]

alright whatever man,let bygones be bygones right not sure what u want from me anymore if u cant adress the points ive made multiples times and u ignored me

[coarse summit]

♻️

[fervent flint]

i responded to all of them , even when you repeated the same ones. till the last repeat then all of a sudden i ignore,... crazy work

[final monolith]

nope, reread

[fervent flint]

no need. i responded right away as you said points and even repeating them

[quaint dagger]

no we're asking you what would you suggest? i think it's as simple as try to workout a fix for the panther chicken jump tech

[coarse summit]

theyre arent suggesting because they dont agree theres an issue

[fervent flint]

kuro i already said it multiple times to him, both of you scroll to find it

[final monolith]

@fervent flint here i found it for u

▶️
BlueFire

— 8:25 PM
alright lets agree to disagree. i thought our conversation ended when you lied about everyclass having an aoe, and me saying that only wizs sorcs and clerics with spells have aoes and that they would get run down by panther. Also, it doesnt really prevent a druid from running away and watching you fight someone and waiting to 3rd party.
This is the fact that makes it broken. druids can just 3rdparty instantly

[fervent flint]

i answered that one too multiple times as well same as the rest

[final monolith]

you didnt

[fervent flint]

thats wayyyyyy later into the convo wtf xD

[quaint dagger]

if they fix stuff like ratting through bars on bridge, flying across a whole module i think the class is chill

[final monolith]

they should fix something about that class fs

[fervent flint]

after you already repeated the points multiple times, with me responding multiple times.

[final monolith]

just find the spot where i missed something and post it again if u want

[flint birch]

just make animals form charges only recharge while in human form

[quaint dagger]

bluefire made a whole range of suggestions some a bit too far fetched ofc class just needs some minor reworking

[fervent flint]

it would be easier if you could just follow along as its currently being said, thats what most people do in a convo. i even already repeated answers after your repeated points, so no i wont be doing that anymore. you can scroll yourself

[final monolith]

youre done bro u havent said anything new since i counterpointed ur ass

[drifting scaffold]

😭

[drifting scaffold]

me when I riposte the barb’s reckless

[fervent flint]

your counter point was me "ignoring" your last repeated comment, yet i already responded to it multiple times xD

[gaunt oracle]

wait... why has nobody thought about this? this is good

[flint birch]

but if yall actually want to counter druid. bring molies and poison vials so they cant rat

[quaint dagger]

reckless is a whole separate matter that needs a nerf tbh

[flint birch]

lol

[final monolith]

ill say it again, not all classes have aoes, the ones that do are weak to panther, and its not like 1 aoe will prevent infinite disengage, so i dont know what youre on about just type what u wanna say stop saying things about me

[drifting scaffold]

no just use one of the new blocks and space it. if u block the sweet spot its wasted

[quaint dagger]

in a lot of situations people can't yeat a poison vial across a room infront of a door

[coarse summit]

reckless is one attack that can be blocked with a long cool down

[drifting scaffold]

I think he’s saying it’s preventative

[flint birch]

ah, they are weak losers then, need to hit the gym more

[drifting scaffold]

like if you cover the spot in gas and fire they won’t rat

[quaint dagger]

oh i know you can block it most people just dont block like goobers

[fervent flint]

i said most classes have an aoe option to deal with a rat, after you brought up a rat not running away, but hiding in a crack and "not being able to do anything".... context is very important. thats why it helps to follow along with the conversation as its happening.

[drifting scaffold]

my new fave it almost makes not running lantern worth

[quaint dagger]

people with good blocking tech can be annoying you right

[floral geyser]

still no date for wipe?

[quaint dagger]

even barbs with a shield

[final monolith]

its not true, MOST CLASSES dont HAVE AN AOE
fighter dont
barbs dont
rogues dont

i said, aoe classes get panthered and its not like a simple aoe can prevent a druid from running away

YOU said: i said most classes have an aoe option to deal with a rat, after you brought up a rat not running away, but hiding in a crack and "not being able to do anything".... context is very important. thats why it helps to follow along with the conversation as its happening.

[slim flower]

when wipe

[supple garnet]

can you get ancient stingray egg from normals or does it have to be hr

[keen zephyr]

Not yet unfortunately

[quaint dagger]

personally the only thing i'll accept and think is cool is looking up in the goblin cave middle module to see a penguin hanging out on the top rope

[flint birch]

it truly be a skill issue for most ppl dealing with druid

[final monolith]

@fervent flint context is nothing, facts are facts, im saying infinite disengage is a problem and that not every class can avoid all fights so it leads to imbalance in solos. But stating the obvious is getting boring so have fun y'all

[keen zephyr]

Yep you can get it from normal

[slim flower]

druid is a dog class and IM are goobers for letting it play out in this state so long

[dreamy vine]

Cite me

[fervent flint]

why would a druid run away in rat if hes not in disadvantage state? so no they wont switch to panther then burst you down if at disadvantage. hence you saying prior they can just hide in a crack and classes cant do anything. wrong. and yes most classes. as you bring up only 3 classes out of all them which isnt even half, yet they can still bring poison vials and molly

[final monolith]

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TheMadWizard — 8:30 PM
Right but not every class can avoid all fights so it leads to imbalance in solos. But stating the obvious is getting boring so have fun y'all

🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[dreamy vine]

I was joking lol 😆

[keen zephyr]

Hi guys, I think this topic has gone out of hand, maybe we pick a different topic

[hazy sinew]

Wipe the game already

[flint birch]

see, they arelooking at it from a solo perspective, which frankly is stupid cause solos is stupid

[slim flower]

i think those 2 are both freaks

[hazy sinew]

Season has been going on for like 4 months what is this

[final monolith]

is it a direct order? i like talkiing about druids in tavern

[quaint dagger]

druid only really impacts solos mostly and ratting loot in trios

[flint birch]

sure, doesnt change the fact that solos is a detriment to the game

[fervent flint]

solos will always be heavily dependent on the most recent patch notes of buffs and nerfs.,,,

[hazy sinew]

Wipe the game

We in the big 26 and no wipe yet

[quaint dagger]

I only play solos to farm or get gear off people, otherwise i prefer duos/trios more enjoyable tbh

[fervent flint]

how long has this wipe been going on now? since september right?

[final monolith]

this is a hot take but i agree. here is why. its very difficult to balance a game around solos cuz in trios u can protect range classes from melee to make them very powerful

[flint birch]

ye

[final monolith]

yea

[hazy sinew]

Devs are on some

[fervent flint]

yeah this is crazy.

[keen zephyr]

Would be a friendly reach out, seeing that the conversation has lasted an hour back and forth, I believe another topic or taking a breather would be nice

[hazy sinew]

Wipe game

[gaunt oracle]

Sorc enjoyers... can you glaciate your own plasma blast?

[quaint dagger]

not much else to talk about to be honest, at least it aint as negative as wipe game or the game is dead

[final monolith]

@keen zephyr thanks but as you can see, it went thru hard times but we really did figure it out

[daring mortar]

dont listen to him, hes a chud

[flint birch]

not wrong, classes are able to cover each others weaknesses making a well rounded team, multiple combinations of classes can exist that create different team synergies

and that makes the game fun

[dreamy vine]

How can the most played game mode be a detriment? Maybe they should be flexible and not burn it all down for the original vision

[hazy sinew]

How about we just wipe the game

[finite flicker]

🌋

[supple garnet]

im ngl devilassassin17, you are looking a bit like a chud yourself

[quaint dagger]

ant wants a wipe give it to him

[hazy sinew]

🫩

[daring mortar]

ahh one of them ppl that love sucking of wardens and sdf

[flint birch]

it fucked the games audience by attracting mainly losers who dont know how to be social.

[final monolith]

yes and im not sure why people play like solo HR with bis just to get outgeared, outmetaed, druided or rogued
Trios is where its at, communication, seeing the whole picture etc

[hazy sinew]

Wipe game this Monday

[supple garnet]

the opposite really, I just clicked on your profile and it screamed chud

[final monolith]

i think solo shouldnt be afraid of like having different rules or stats or classes

[hazy sinew]

I don’t get the hold up

[final monolith]

lmao i clicked too and i could smell him

[flint birch]

same, even in trios when ppl split up and become prey for others

[quaint dagger]

sdf has to finish his space map

[slim flower]

skill gap it sounds like

[hazy sinew]

Space map in dnd

[fervent flint]

i havent been on in a bit, have they released what the hr rewards are yet? or not even that?

[daring mortar]

suuure buddy, wont be able to suck them off for very muvh longer bc he game is dead so better put in overtime

[hazy sinew]

🫩

[final monolith]

yeah or skill gap ofc, i mean youre all alone and you choose this specific class, you might get destroyed

[flint birch]

astral plane map or heaven would actually be cool. id pay to kill angels

[quaint dagger]

stinky as always demi-god gets a sash

[final monolith]

i think they are doing volcano next

[visual swallow]

I totally don't understand solos, I've only ever played trios and duos, can probably count the number of solo matches I've played on one hand

[hazy sinew]

Volcano map actually sounds cool

[dreamy vine]

A true sdf vision lover and line holder in the wild

[supple garnet]

bro lmao you really are the the stereotypical doomer in this chat, I just wanted to call you a chud because I thought it would be funny

[visual swallow]

it's fuckin terrible lol

[hazy sinew]

Water map was a flop im sorry

[daring mortar]

gulp gulp gulp

[quaint dagger]

water map was the worst decision ever

[flint birch]

lol

[hushed violet]

no gc 2nd floor

[supple garnet]

LMAO

[fervent flint]

if they showed what the hr rewards will be then it should be close to next wipe

[final monolith]

you better off not engaging with someone that his first message in a conversation an insult to someone
but boil his ass if u want im here for the show

[supple garnet]

you so right tbh

[final monolith]

it is!

bruh

[supple garnet]

sash skin is the demigod reward

[fervent flint]

uh oh

[fervent flint]

this should be criminal

[quaint dagger]

don't think i've ever seen a druid in trios besides them waiting to snatch loot or be a cameraman

[final monolith]

what do you guys think the flame skin stats will be tho thats the real kicker

[gaunt oracle]

Sorcbros, can you glaciate your own plasma blast or nah?

[flint birch]

that one got me chuckling

[hazy sinew]

Add monk class

[final monolith]

never thought about it try it it takes 2 seconds

[hazy sinew]

Bring back gear score and pre game lobbies

[final monolith]

yo make monk class faster than druid and able to turn into a mini monk that follows the rat and beats his ass

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[flint birch]

glaciate it? you mean icebound to avoid the damage? if so no. it removes the plasmabomb buff

[dusty thicket]

Buff druid please sdf

[daring mortar]

cant ban anyone thats half their playerbase lmao

[final monolith]

🧀
sdf please make monk class faster than druid doing chickenpantherjump and able to turn into a mini monk that follows the rat and beats his ass

[hazy sinew]

Get rid of Druid cool downs

[dreamy vine]

Right mods are letting people cook with the insults right now everyone get wild 😜

[gaunt oracle]

ok ty

[supple garnet]

yo did you by chance screenshot these messages

[daring mortar]

why does that link s no access

[dreamy vine]

Who doesn't want fancy clothes

[final monolith]

myea id like him to have a little warning for him calling me a chud outta nowhere, its actually racist to use that word

[gritty ermine]

wipe hype

[gaunt oracle]

nope. channel gone?

[feral pike]

quickest way to xp farm a character to 20 besides quests?

[supple garnet]

it was from the winter channel that we cant see anymore

[hazy sinew]

Wipe hype 🥀

[daring mortar]

ahh what was it?

[supple garnet]

yeah unfortunately

[flint birch]

look up msg's from graysun on thisserver

[dreamy vine]

Just make up another word it'll be the new one in 6 months

[hazy sinew]

wipe should’ve been way long ago

Devs are on some fs

[flint birch]

i think theyve been preparing a bunch of perks/skills, if so im happy

[fervent flint]

figured after they won the case theyd be grinding. who knows though

[dreamy vine]

You're all a bunch of wakkas

[final monolith]

<@&988703997378584596> chud is a racist word, also he really said that outta nowhere

[fervent flint]

he meant to say chad 😉

[feral pike]

quickest way to xp farm a character to 20 besides quests?

[final monolith]

dont listen to him, hes a chad 💯

[dreamy vine]

Should I Google what the latest bs insult is or continue not giving a ?

[gaunt oracle]

break stuff and extract alot of treasure. fastest way is to go into any map squire kitted. break everything and replace as much squire gear as possible. fill your inventory and get out as fast as possible

[hazy sinew]

its been 4 months

[feral pike]

thank you

[delicate ibex]

A chad wouldn’t waste time on Dark and Darker so they wouldn’t be good to listen to. Checks out.

[final monolith]

they are adding monk and its gon be class faster than druid doing chickenpantherjump and able to turn into a mini monk that follows the rat and beats his ass

[dreamy vine]

Also open portals hot shrines

[fervent flint]

feels longer tho doesnt it 🙁 im dying for new season

[final monolith]

it was a big wipe tho, with the unwanted water map

[gaunt oracle]

and kill monsters. dont worry about minibosses and bosses. the xp isnt worth the time

[supple garnet]

it wont show ones in channels you cant see

[supple garnet]

it was confirming that ice caves exists in a volcano

[final monolith]

also, they keep adding really nasty pve modules in hell that noone likes

[hazy sinew]

water map is so buns they missed out on the kraken boss opportunity

[final monolith]

100%

[hazy sinew]

Instead we got a stingray

[fervent flint]

water map people had fun with at first for sure but its just too big to be actually playable long term. wish they scaled it down

[flint birch]

pretty sure atleast some of the msgs where in this chat or in game discussion. just look g

[daring mortar]

NO ITS NOT LMAO!!!!

[hazy sinew]

My bad big bro

[supple garnet]

I did look already

[hazy sinew]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[supple garnet]

thats why it took me so long to respond

[final monolith]

lmao

[flint birch]

your ass would lose so many hide n seek games

[daring mortar]

well ice caves is horrible so itll be water map 2.0

[hazy sinew]

Ice caves is not bad

[supple garnet]

bro I looked already the messages I specifically want are for sure no longer there

[final monolith]

i hate icecaves

[daring mortar]

its awful

[hazy sinew]

Yeah you got it 😂

[flint birch]

smh

[fervent flint]

you guys know when a new player joins the discord, they actually dont see the tavern chat tab at all? they took it out awhile ago, to join it you have to look in the tabs to find it then enable it. we are all boomers here of the game. the new players are in game discussion

[dreamy vine]

What my puck is saying is the benefit of shorter wipes outweighs the benefits of waiting to release wipes with content which makes sense it seems like over kill to do both

[supple garnet]

the one where @vale oar legit just confirms all that ice caves is in a volcano is no longer able to be seen

[quaint dagger]

@final monolith what about ice do you think they can change? i like the maps look

[fervent flint]

i think cause this chat gets toxic xD

[daring mortar]

they let any liberal be a warden huh?

[vale oar]

I don't see what it has to do with anything though

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-banana-radiation-dying-eating-gif-9012804869369029507

[final monolith]

i think i dont like the yeti and the ice skellies are like stronger and kobolds kinda suck
also like themiddle with the yeti my timbos just aggro it sit downa dn we get attacked by a full team

[dreamy vine]

That potassium will getcha

[flint birch]

witchcraft

[quaint dagger]

most people avoid the map because of the mobs i find it funny tbh, they go first floor and dont drop

[supple garnet]

alright so this is like reconfirming that he sent his message boys ice caves is in a volcano gg

[fervent flint]

they already made ice caves easier by lowering mob density

[final monolith]

i would never drop down in icecavern, down is more of the same

[hazy sinew]

[daring mortar]

it wouldnt be bad if every mob couldnt 1 shot and slow, and the amount of mobs is ridicules bc they have more health than any other map.

[fervent flint]

true it is a good choice, lets just move to game discussion >:)

[vale oar]

Does anybody remember when the floor below crypts was lava?

[quaint dagger]

i think the one mob that is cancer are the nightmare ice archers besides that the move set aint too bad

[flint birch]

no, what pt was that ?

[coarse summit]

With that magma golem thing

[dreamy vine]

The loooot

[final monolith]

wouldve been cool if they had implemented some ice spots where u cant change direction when youre sliding or something

[vale oar]

Playtest 2 and 3 if I remember right

[lost plover]

Playtest 2!

Yes!

[hazy sinew]

🧍🏽

[flint birch]

damn, i dont think i was playing it then. i want to fight a giant lava elemental

[final monolith]

shoutout to the mods that watched us duke it out for hours in the tavern (a tavern is rowdy indeed)

[coarse summit]

It's easy to forget how far the map design has come when you watch old clips

[daring mortar]

its all cancer, pole axe guy is awful and the amount of them are dumb, its just not a map id ever play.

[unreal garnet]

we need more queues. maybe like 10-20 more, 50 more if they add another map

[dreamy vine]

*mobs

[quaint dagger]

i think a lot of people avoid it for the same reason

[dreamy vine]

Nah too busy running gob caves

[coarse summit]

Never understood the hate for ice abyss mobs the halberd guy all you do is sidestep

[dreamy vine]

You gotta duck unless crazy ms

In addition

[quaint dagger]

gotta duck on most classes unfortunately

[final monolith]

ggs i was the frostcrossbowman

[unreal garnet]

they just annoying af

[flint birch]

ice caves mobs are scary af. just have to be good. its kinda weird that ppl dont engage with the mobs more, not learning how to fight them can be genuinely detrimental to playing

[coarse summit]

Normals ones I've never ducked but nightmare yeah duck as well

[dreamy vine]

Gg I was the large pot

[daring mortar]

ive learned the mobs, its just annoying with how long it takes to clear.

[final monolith]

bro got smoked

[dreamy vine]

[final monolith]

damn imagine arena without mobswow

[flint birch]

just become a wizard or warlock and destroy real quick, then switch back to your other class

[coarse summit]

And if you're having trouble with the nightmare archers in abyss all you do is bait it's close range attack

[flint birch]

would be boring af

[dreamy vine]

What if there were large destiny style pvp less raids to bring the community together for once

[final monolith]

i think trying all the classes is healthy for a person learning the game more in depth

[supple garnet]

nah the subbosses need to go bro, the other shit is fine

[dreamy vine]

If I can't loot in arena I'm not playing it

[flint birch]

this game does need in raid events. that would hlp so much with keeping each raid interesting

[final monolith]

it could be cooler in others ways maybe

[quaint dagger]

sounds just like pve mode, go to any boss room and there are like 5 guys trying to grub for the gear when it dies lol

[supple garnet]

not the same as 5 player cooperate to achieve a common goal each receiving an individual drop in return

[final monolith]

guys running full ressourcefulness kits to grab the 1/100000 goblin pelt

[dreamy vine]

We're talking about a large boss that'd need 2 or 3 teams of 3 to have a chance

Possible puzzles leading up to it

[coarse summit]

Youd need full lobbies for that

[quaint dagger]

i reckon it's too much work for too little interest, you'd do it like once and be like that was cool then never again

[coarse summit]

Wyvern started out needing 4 players remember

[final monolith]

i wish the gear power and gear prices would be all flattened out. Bis would be weaker, and cheaper. Then i wish all queues would be merged into a few and i wish they added a 10v10 capture the flag mode 🙁 but dont laugh i know im crazy

[quaint dagger]

@coarse summit scrapped that idea real fast lol

[unreal garnet]

wait actually? you had to do it with a random found in dungeon?

[supple garnet]

yes

[flint birch]

that wouldnt be bad, but also just like the ruins becomes even darker as cloud block the moonlight would be interesting. or maybe a magical wind overtakes the dungeon buffing certain mobs

[coarse summit]

Yup used to be 4 of those pillars and 1 person had to stand infront of each

[final monolith]

man the game could be so much more

[supple garnet]

it might be soon tbh

[flint birch]

i wont lie, the new marathon has some concepts for in raid events that i think dnd should be inspired by

[quaint dagger]

be nice to see them work on perks/skills more than anything

[unreal garnet]

thats so scuffed wtf 💀 did anyone ever do it?? you literally cant in HR???

[flint birch]

like imagine half way through the raid a magical effect in the air revived a bunch of mobs

itd be soo funny to get that mid fight

[final monolith]

yea hard pass bro

[coarse summit]

When it dropped there'd be like 15 people on the platform all fighting it at the same time

[flint birch]

no balls on anyone here

[mighty sparrow]

Why do you ask?

[restive sinew]

does anyone know when arena is up?

[dreamy vine]

Did you ever play a raid in destiny or wow? They are the main content for those games respectively

[unreal garnet]

is that not teaming? or was that not HR rule yet?

[supple garnet]

#the-tavern message

[final monolith]

lets say instead of reviving mobs your powder makes ur horney for preggogoblinettes

[flint birch]

exactly, now every goblin on the map is running for your module trying to get some action

[coarse summit]

Don't remember go look at jaygriffyuh on YouTube he had a video from it pretty sure

[vale oar]

It was just interesting how different it is compared to then

[dreamy vine]

True just add more gamba mechanics more stags warbones random stuff keep games dlfeeling unique

[high mulch]

You guys excited for the PT2 revert wipe?

[supple garnet]

bro lmao

[quaint dagger]

i find long winded pve content extremely boring so i've never played destiny, i feel like repeating the same boss over and over gets tiring very fast unless you'rte actively trying to get something of value like a cosmetic

[final monolith]

BRO Q_Q I LOVE IT

[flint birch]

every chest and slain mob is a gamba mechanic

[unreal garnet]

shite one

[final monolith]

lets just TRY pt2 or 3 for a couple of weeks X) (no new classes)
those were THE DAYS

[quaint dagger]

true they're not even sure luck works OOF

[final monolith]

that would be actually an end of season very cool event; you can go in PT3

[flint birch]

regardless though, this game needs to have some sort of in raid event that randomly over the course of the match. some beneficial, some negative. just to really add some spice to raids

[quaint dagger]

i mean people have legit done 1000 pulls of piles with 400 luck and it barely does anything in comparison to no luck

[final monolith]

yeah like give me <<super hell>> thats a rare lobby and theres a super crazy 3x larger room boss room with a big raid boss and all of a sudden PVP is disabled (maybe until the boss is dead)

[flint birch]

honestly, wouldnt even be opposed to that, that also sounds fun

not as fun as all the mobs suddenly respawning ofcourse, but still fun

[quaint dagger]

cool ideas just hard to execute

[final monolith]

luck doesnt work. watch the latest glocktane video. 500 luck might double your chance at artefacts but doesnt change ANYTHING to other drops

[unreal garnet]

what if some of the walls were crumbled away between modules and it was just a big open space where you cant do doorway combat???

[high mulch]

Thats the whole reason Paul is taking over. SDF behind bars they can finally go back to their roots

[mighty sparrow]

Ive killed stingray HR like 150 times with at least 150 luck and i havent gotten an artifact

[unreal garnet]

wait fr? Squirrelbrain Druid Fan is on his way out????

[final monolith]

+1 on everything u say bro

[flint birch]

the different random floor maybe? but stuff like suddnely making the map darker or making the mobs respawn should be pretty easy

[quaint dagger]

you'd be surprised at the coding that ironmace pulls out

[final monolith]

bruh ☠️

[quaint dagger]

yeah it's cooked

[unreal garnet]

personally i believe in removing attribute rolls and adding skill trees but thats just me

[final monolith]

dont revive mobs whatevr the hell you do, dont do THAT

oh lmao yeh skill trees, training and quivers huh

[flint birch]

some form of a skill tree i feel like is really needed.

[unreal garnet]

lich boss spawn 15 mins in and slowly wanders around revving everything

[quaint dagger]

we were promised ages ago a skill tree but it got scrapped i think

[long mantle]

Just wipe Friday at this point lol do the QA during downtime

[quaint dagger]

why test it when people have spent weeks doing that for me? If the devs themselves have said we have no clue whether it works or not i think i'll go with that judgement

[unreal garnet]

ya probably skill trees are too complicated for ye old Squirrelbrain

[flint birch]

oh, tying events to what boss is on the map is cool too. like if lich is present it as a chance to rev all mobs in a module. if its warlord skely ninja are spawned across the map. shit like that would be cool

[final monolith]

there were ideas of instead of like being a circle that just damages you, there might be a roaming boss in the swarm or somthing

[unreal garnet]

thatd be so much better

[flint birch]

ye, i remember that. not sure if they said it was definitely scrapped though, or just indefinitely pushed back

[quaint dagger]

brain be like jelly gotta find the meta build 🤓

[final monolith]

elect me as new sdf, friend of paul and i shall bring in 50kconcurrents in a year!!!!

[quaint dagger]

i guess you can't read beyond the fact that the CREATORS said it dont work when they made it but dw do 1000 pulls for me guppy

[quaint dagger]

i feel like indefinitely means bye bye ngl

[final monolith]

check the glocktane video to know HOW LUCK WORKS (it doesnt)

[flint birch]

nahh, have you seen twitch bans?

[hazy sinew]

Keyboard warriors

[quaint dagger]

i play the game i just dont loot chests, you got time for that?

[left thistle]

has wipe been announced?

[unreal garnet]

🤣 not the druid badge

[quaint dagger]

fair point lol you right

[final monolith]

o u dont like creators? myea too bad for u nobody has stats of loot except that guy i mentioned. hes a streamer

[hazy sinew]

🥱

[supple drift]

I want new annoucement, q&a, sdf kitchen, or graysun plate...

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban ALL cheaters, including:
ESP/Hacks
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[final monolith]

its ok guys we figured out the druid problem now
we dont have to talka bout it no more

[quaint dagger]

nah i run duos, fight and kills bosses as intended but whatever helps you sleep at night chest looter lmao