the-tavern

[dusty barn]

of course im no dev for the game, i wouldnt know directly, just my guesses

[swift coral]

part of me wants to say because of the lobby sniping/ratting but I think I remember they tried many other things to address that instead of outright ripping the lobby out

[opal knot]

Continuous Dungeons. You can't have everyone load into a pre-raid tavern lobby together and start at the same time, when they are trickle-spawning into raids individually well after they've started.

[simple aspen]

u can still pet otto between floors at least

[swift coral]

mmm thought so

[dusty barn]

PeepoHappy

[desert maple]

Without the pre-lobby i can no longer load in and see a rogue blasting Darude - Sandstorm whilst being encircled by headbanging fighters 🙁

[swift coral]

soon we will be able to find a 24/7 jukebox guy

he takes tips which pays for the gathering hall hosting fee, its genius really

[desert maple]

Its what the bard role is for, fleecing people pre dungeon

[dusty barn]

Since Im already cooking up something for the suggestion box, i would like to ask you guys. If Dark had pinnacle PvE content, would you expect there to be an attunement process to enter? Would you expect there to be a lockout period on loot (not restricting entry, but rewards)?

[swift coral]

💯

[warm fable]

@hexed adder How many skills,perks,spells have been cooked?
Around 30? 50?

Pls spill some beans 🙏

[dusty barn]

Beans will be spilt soon in the Dev QnA

Let em hold onto it until then

[swift coral]

frfr

[hushed violet]

i woudner if bard will fina;;y have a change

[desert maple]

i'm still a believer that bard should get percussive sound based attacks semi transparent ranged attack or something

[rancid marten]

We’re getting one of those?

[dusty barn]

@hushed violet Ah yes, Bards best new change. Jolly Time has been reworked again. You may now dual wield Ale cups and toss them to cause the drunk effect on your enemies or allies

[dusty barn]

yeah SoBad is getting to interview them I believe, soon(tm)

[empty halo]

graysun my slime

[molten iris]

[lapis birch]

Is #graysuns-plate about to serve us something?

[rancid marten]

Iron mace isn’t known for keeping their players waiting so surely it should be soon ™

[empty halo]

put the fries on the plate Graysun

[warm fable]

I hope so
I am starving

[molten iris]

soon very soon very very soon very extreme mega super soon

[lapis birch]

Wipe today

[molten iris]

[tough roost]

yo guys which merchant crafts the spectral blade and how much affinity do i need

[dusty barn]

All weapons are thru the Weaponsmith @tough roost

[tough roost]

do you know how much affinity i need

[desert maple]

If dark+darker had actual D+D style dungeon crawls with story, npcs, major bossfights that require actual parties of like 6 people (with party composition mattering for different dungeons), some choices that reward cosmetics or themes for your own "tavern" etc, idk some endgame progressive loop that feels like I'm exploring something... i'd probably come back to the game lol.

Problem i've seen with this game is literally everyone wants something different for the game

[dusty barn]

Every craft shoul dbe covered by 150

[tough roost]

alright

[gaunt smelt]

[molten iris]

[chrome crow]

Wipe hype with no date insight ..

[dusty barn]

Always hype for a new wipe. New stuff is always great

[final monolith]

game is dying hard when is wipe

[molten iris]

today

[dreamy vine]

[cyan monolith]

3

[final monolith]

i wish

[warm fable]

[untold dock]

Planned for = unexpected problems were found, servers will be down for another 2 hours 😩

hear me out, what if we kill the pop more so that wipe is released sooner?

[ionic fox]

bring back artifact quests

[icy perch]

nah

[ionic fox]

yes

[icy perch]

no

[remote pine]

maybe

[ionic fox]

potentially

[remote pine]

https://tenor.com/view/lush-munch-lushtv-darkanddarker-gamer-gif-14907569040006876804

[final monolith]

did u know only like 1*** % after a quick research is 1% lol of players ever found an artefact? most people will sell it or lose it after a tedious grind

[icy perch]

my friend found his first arti in like 300-400 hours from bossing, people that are not trying to get an arti shouldn't get it. It was fun for a month-long wipe but not for the big one, gl buying a fulgor or viola for 10-15k (3-4 raids in pve)

[swift coral]

i dont knoowww, can you repeat the question?

[final monolith]

artefacts are rare and i dont like bossing thatmuch

[coarse summit]

Wyvern started out needing 4 people to wake it, didn't last long

[icy perch]

if you want an arti - you kill people, kill bosses or get money to buy it, I can farm like a chest per hour and viola costs 10 full rn

[final monolith]

myea it gets tedious af ngl id rather the $$$ to power curve with the market and drops be flatter than this steep
its like do u wanna HR trios watermap and kill mobs and bosses for like 30 runs then take 1hour to make a decent kit

[icy perch]

why everyone should have an item of ARTIFACT rarity, thats just ridiculous

[final monolith]

if i had a button that i could press to make a kit i would hit it, i really hate browsing the marketplace and doing gems 🙁

[cyan monolith]

if i had a button that i could press i would press it once or maybe even twice

[coarse summit]

twice? thats adventurous

[final monolith]

if nothing happens he might ....clickclickcliclickcliclcilcilcilcilcicliclciclckclickclcik

[unique token]

[dreamy vine]

let us sell kits in market

[cyan monolith]

???

[supple garnet]

how do you farm a chest an hour? like you farm enough to buy one off market?

[cyan monolith]

tf u want me to do with that suggestion

[supple garnet]

let us bro

[distant yoke]

Why cringe? The guy genuinely brings new players to games

[dreamy vine]

let us sell kits in market

lol someone just sold their chest for 1555

[coarse star]

yeah the bosses with the horrendous drop rate, the people who never run them unless its strait end of wipe.

i have ran tons of artifacts this wipe. But the drop rates and horrendous

not to mention having to trade spectral bags, to chests, to dbs to eventually be able to buy a named(this was early-mid wipe)

[tepid matrix]

on a scale of 1-10 how dead is dark and darker

[bitter hearth]

delete druid and bring back 224..no?

[errant isle]

No, gear score sucks

[errant isle]

Summit1g didnt bring any

[icy perch]

yep

[icy perch]

I run only artis since like 4-5th week of this wipe unless I m not with my main team, then I go 4-5 rolled no arti

idk, had like 5 viola kits this wipe I think

[bitter hearth]

There are not much rewards in normal mode, and if i play HR casually, i just get stomped by full socketed legendary gear player all the time, its so boring for me

[icy perch]

and 10 with other nameds

[crisp dagger]

When wipe this shit is terrible to play rn

[humble blaze]

when wipe

[coarse star]

again that had nothing to do with what I said. like, at all. have ran an insane amount of artifacts this wipe.

My point is that does not mean the drop rate doesn't suck. Pulled almost nothing this wipe off of boss, especially lich and warlord. same thing pretty much every single other wipe. one wipe went like 300-400 lich and warlord kills without a named

[icy perch]

well I got 10 artis from bosses and one guy I know got 16

Its just luck

[marsh hinge]

bruh does this egg exist??????

[icy perch]

droprates could be a bit higher

[coarse star]

its 1/66 off lich and warlord, 1/33 off ghost king. Pretty much everyone I know has had shit named luck.

The drop rates are horrid, congrats you got lucky but that doesn't make anything good lol

i have pulled a single named off warlord/lich this wipe, and it was like a week ago(after hundreds of other kills this wipe)

[icy perch]

but not the arti quests and significant drop rate increase

[icy perch]

I swear we get like one+ named a week this wipe, and thats not only my team but the whole (pretty small) community I m in

[cyan monolith]

i played 2.6k hours and got 3 nameds across all that, easily done over 1000 bosses total

the rates are horrible

[icy perch]

yeah my mate got his first chest from pile this wipe in 6000 hours of playtime

[long mantle]

WHERE THE QA

[cyan monolith]

i dont think there should be an arti quest outside of events though, but they need to make them more obtainable somehow

[coarse star]

must be nice lmfao. again that doesn't mean drop rates aree good. Simply look at the numbers.

1/66 thats 66 runs, of going down to crypts, finding boss, and killing boss. not to mention dealing with other teams before/during boss.
Thats like 15 hours of boss farming minimum for 1 named. and thats if your avg luck

[cyan monolith]

24 days

[icy perch]

I agree they should be a bit higher

[spare sierra]

With regards to the artifacts, I like the current drop rate. The scarcity is reflected in their price on the auction house, giving gold an actual meaning to be accumulated late on. What I wish would improve is -quest- drop rates. I read that Stingray Egg is like 1% drop? ...In HR. That is true grinding, and if you want to play with friends, thats 300 kills. They ought to at least allow triple drop to incentivise group play.

[coarse star]

much more than a bit

[icy perch]

nah

since key rooms are common now

its fine with the droprate

[cyan monolith]

isnt it still like 0.05 for a named from sk room

[unique zinc]

"sometime soon"

[icy perch]

I m not sure

[coarse star]

key rooms dont mean anythign?

gold key, doesnt give nameds, rusty key doesnt. gem room is 1/400 and skull key is 1/144
key rooms mean nothing lmfaoooo

[icy perch]

and still we getting nameds from there

sk is being opened in 95% of all the dungeons third floor

[ionic fox]

Make sell cap on market 100k bring back artifact quests but it’s for killing 20-30 of a specific boss

[coarse star]

cool you poll a single named after 150 runs of going down to inferno completely, spending 20-30 minutes a run

[spare sierra]

Perhaps just more artifacts variety. A few more artifacts with random effects would be nice. Artifact drum that makes a boom and bonks across the map. High risk of losing it. Would be fun. Quest drop artifacts is a good idea.

[icy perch]

thats why its called an artifact bro

its rare

[spare sierra]

Yeah, makes them special.

[cyan monolith]

all that to die to 3v9 ratsquad

[icy perch]

not special but rare

[ionic fox]

This wipe is the most dead wipe and the lowest the drop rates have ever been

They lowered the drop rates when adding artifact quests but never re raised the drop rates once they removed them

[cyan monolith]

w sdf

[spare sierra]

not mutually exclusive, can be both. I love the unique effects more than the stats tbf

[coarse star]

when its locked off to almost the entire playerbase(not including me, I do just fine)
everyone is too scared to run them for 2 months of wipe.
and is extremely luck dependant with many people getting almost 0 the entire wipe of playing.

Not to mention having to trade bags for chests, chests for db's(very annoying) to finally be able to buy a named

[ionic fox]

We went from the base line being 3% drop chance for a artifact to it now being a 1.5% chance drop and season 6 it was a 12% chance lol

[icy perch]

what servers you playing

we are meeting artis on eu, china running artis, some newbies are also running artis

there was a moment where it was silent

[ionic fox]

Everything in the game should be on market including artifacts

[molten iris]

[coarse star]

they litterally have special effects, im not sure what you mean buy "not special".

named pvp and fighting nameds is the most fun thing in the entire game. I could ask every person I know and they would all agree.
last wipe, a wipe with no content, a SEMI SEMI wipe. had 10-15k concurrent players for a month strait because of a lot of artifacts

[icy perch]

like a week or two ago

[coarse star]

na east. see close to zero first 2 months of wipe, every wipe. its how it is. then you see some last few weeks then finally see a good amount last 2 weeks

and a week or two ago is still over 3 months into wipe

[icy perch]

yeah we killed fulgor during ssf

we killed viola a week after ssf

couple kumas

can't complain

[coarse star]

yeah well its not like that for pretty much anyone else. got to fight maybe 1 artifact team in the first month of wipe lol

[ionic fox]

I’ve killed 100 full chests worth of artifacts in a day it doesn’t matter though because artifacts are fucking gate kept crazy style when they are some of the most fun content in the game

[coarse star]

and 95 percent of ppl running artifacts that early are typically paying for them if you know what I mean

[icy perch]

I do

[swift coral]

Overall loot is far too abundant
the loot abundance has still to this day never gone back to the OG intended levels, loot drop %'s are still far above a baseline that was supposed to be temporary.

[coarse star]

the entire system rn is controlled and gatekept by people doing that

[swift coral]

loot used to be so bad it would push you into HR because you would hit a point where the loot in norms just wasnt worth it

[long mantle]

just selling everything atm lol chest n all for religion tossing it to the void

[ionic fox]

Just no

[long mantle]

yea gear is way to easy atm hopefully its toned back for wipe.

[swift coral]

you don't have to like it, it's the truth

it's plain fact that we have not returned to even anywhere near the original levels that they tried to revert to, when they reverted loot to intended levels, the community complained and then they buffed it back up again.

[coarse star]

yeah your so wrong its funny.

If me playing every day for first 2 months of wipes, pulling maybe 2 artifacts, and barely any good uniques is too much loot then idk what to say lol.

the original loot levels were horrible., that is why people complaining

[swift coral]

I'm not saying its too much, i'm saying we havent returned to the original intended levels

[coarse star]

having a 1/10 change of a simple unique, that has a 1/10 chance to have 1-2 usable rolls

[long mantle]

its def above the Og lvls

[swift coral]

Yeah I am not arguing that it's good man

[cyan monolith]

i think it is too much

[swift coral]

We both agree that we have not returned to the original levels and that was my point.

[coarse star]

just cause it was original doesn't mean it was good.

stuff is in no way far too abundant

[swift coral]

I am not arguing that it was good.

I say far to abundant when compared to the original levels.

[cyan monolith]

they need to nerf gear from chests and stuff and buff gear from bosses, you literally get better stuff from 1 gold chest in inferno than killing ghost king

[coarse star]

I mean you said it was far too abundant currently, which i disagree with?

[swift coral]

When compared to the original levels.

That is the context in which i said that.
Never argued whether it was good or not.

[long mantle]

The OG Loot was way more fun for SF tbh made a blue ring or purple for ur class so Exciting to loot

[icy perch]

^

[coarse star]

did not read it as that with the initial phrasing. If that is not what you meant then I apologize.
But the phrasing made me think you were saying it is too abundant

[coarse star]

it really didn't. Maybe for norms but when playing hr and your consistently getting garbage off of everything. And pulling a good unique piece or even legendary was impossible

[long mantle]

the Real OG'S Remeber haha been here since test 2 was so fun back then rofl

[swift coral]

Yeah man it's straight up not what I mean, I feel like I've made it clear enough now that I'm definitely not arguing about what % levels are good or bad, I have no idea what was better, outside of my own personal enjoyment

Abundant in comparison is all i meant by that

[coarse star]

gear is based on rolls, so you can either have rare gear with common rolls or common gear with hard to get rolls which is what we have now.

having rare gear with the role system we currently have doesnt work

[ionic fox]

Out of every extraction game this is the one game where loot needs to be everywhere gear in this game changes a fight so much and costs so much even with loot we have now it’s not enough

[long mantle]

i have fun either way tbh Touchgrass but i get it u dont haha the SF lower loot is very fun to me persoanlly ❤️ even when i do HR lol

[coarse star]

your chillin, apologies

[swift coral]

allg

[coarse star]

sorry, main point was just having super rare loot doesn't work with how rolls currently are. Since it makes a good item with good rolls pretty much nonexistent.

I enjoyed the game at the time when it was like that, but if they went back to that system I would not enjoy it at all

[swift coral]

Yeah it's an interesting topic, I wouldn't argue as to what is best for the game bc I don't know.

I just personally felt like I had the most fun and felt the most encouraged to actually move up and play HR for example, was when loot was horrible in norms but good in hr. but that's anecdotal i wont die on a hill about it or anything

[long mantle]

aw yea rolls sux normally but wit hthe gem sockets it's like Tomatoe Tomoto n stuff haha

[swift coral]

Gemming brings immense accessibility that would change the conversation if you could go back in time and add it to the game, back when loot was very bad, IMO

[coarse star]

I do agree norms loot feels too good. Either that means hr loot is too bad, norms loot is to overtuned or both.

But norms was more profitable first like 1-2 months of wipe. 1 graveyard loot would be a quick 1k, and nobody had gear in hr so blues were worth a ton.

[long mantle]

We all just want the best for the game both sides etc Just ready for a wipe rofl.. Old loot was Rough but i had fun rofl still do sometimes

[coarse star]

wouldnt be opposed to a very powerful geming system, with rarer gear. But would require a lot of changes.

but like how it was at one point where you could gem like 2-3 str and such. So finding a unique would be rare but you could gem it to be bis. (still think artifacts should be relatively common if you consistently play hr)

[long mantle]

i never liked the +1 +2 etc on gear or Geming high stats tbh its just to BLah Blah can go back n forth forever tbh lol

[coarse star]

I was fine with whatever. Just if we were to have much rarer gear, would probably need to have better geming to balance it out

was nice cause arena kits werent 10000000 gold

[long mantle]

yo 3 chest sold common u know u need them atm lol

[tepid matrix]

yo whats up with these que times

[coarse star]

what mode?

[tepid matrix]

rare

[long mantle]

change servers only east will have people atm if ur lucky

prob only 2-3 naked teams maybe 1 geared lol

[tepid matrix]

im on east

[coarse star]

rare?

[long mantle]

i miss 224 hr hahaha

[cyan monolith]

praying you dont have to maintain warlord rank to get rewards next season

[long mantle]

yo done with Religion free skin lets go

[static nexus]

how people know its wiping today

[cyan monolith]

its not

[warm fable]

you gotta wipe it man

[static nexus]

when is it gonna be then

[coarse star]

was fun, gear score was a lame system i feel. <purps would be better

[cyan monolith]

bro think i know

[static nexus]

whats coming new

[long mantle]

yea i grinded daily on 224 hr lol so many deathblooms

[cyan monolith]

bro think i know

[static nexus]

whats ur name

[cyan monolith]

bro think i kno

[long mantle]

lul

Lets be real we all Rather be in a dungeon with full lobbies again and cant wait for

[sudden hatch]

january

[warm fable]

content

[static nexus]

them 🐶 devs cant be responsible at all

[swift coral]

I think it could overall ease. probably many reasons, things like PVE existing is an easy example towards just how easy it is to accrue wealth and even good gear, to a degree.
The pinnacle content in the game, often trivialized.

I'm not tryna say that it's bad that loot rates are so high compared to intended rates, I just think it is completely out of balance in regard to the rest of the systems in the game and it's flow.
I believe there is room for heavy adjustment because of gemming, which could end up a necessity for a Norms > HR transition

Also, I think I'm a bit more of a slow paced gamer, I personally don't mind if things are more drawn out, gold takes longer to accrue, gear, etc.

[long mantle]

Def need to hire a Better PR person rofl

[tulip arch]

When is wipe?

[swift coral]

I believe that we've never seen gemming as it may have been truly intended.
afaik they were planning to implement it on top of a base with no random modifiers and stripped back statlines.

Instead, it was added ontop of a system of random modifiers, as a method of correcting off rolls.
I just wonder if gemming could have been something different, or if it will be in the future

[long mantle]

aint noone buying my spec bags lol horrible to sell haha

[swift coral]

Maybe the custom arena gemming they did in the tournament is closer to the original intent

[coarse star]

yeah main reason im not as much as a slow paced gamer. is at least for hr I tend to outprogress everyone then your stuck with lobbies with no gear for a few weeks.

Don't think there og rates can be considered the intended rates anymore though. was just rates from multiple years ago when they initially made them. were probably more like placeholders

[long mantle]

I Love repozes video on Druid Shows so many problems with the class that i have had with it Since day 1 lol

[swift coral]

mm could be no longer relevant

It could be that certain puzzle pieces just weren't in place back then that would have made the community accept the change.

[cyan monolith]

ssf is so unfun for gear reliant classes

every ssf so far i just play club barb

[coarse star]

yeah playing with low as and stats just feels bad all around.

Then some classes have no inventory space and such

i am a strong believer they should give every class 10 more base as

[swift coral]

In a vacuum it would be great
but not when you're up against others who's reliance on gear varies greatly

[cyan monolith]

if they just added a reliable way to get each type of weapon/gear ssf would be so much better

merchants even giving u the option to buy white/grey gear is outrageous

[swift coral]

gear upgrade path would be ideal imo

[coarse star]

I dont mind ssf but it gets boring. I just wish there was more an emphasis on farming pieces to craft your own gear that ends up being really good. Currently crafts are just really mid. But like mining ore for crafts during ssf is super fun.

[swift coral]

upgrading blues to purp, so on so forth, for greater expense

[coarse star]

but currently crafted gear is pretty mid, and nobody really has gear for a while

[coarse star]

yesssss

[supple garnet]

doing quests allows you buy different types of armor of different rarities from the merchants

[swift coral]

mmm

[supple garnet]

makes ssf easier in combination with gemming

[cedar fox]

guys, do y'all think there's any hope for next wipe or are we all just getting some few days of decently high pop every wipe and then going into this coping limbo again until the game dies?

[cyan monolith]

they gotta buff crafted gear, i remember back in season 1-3 EVERYONE was running crafted shit. nowadays i rarely see any since its just so expensive for such small gain

[swift coral]

all of that could work with gemming quite well

[coarse star]

i would also love a sort of npc in game that lets you degem gear. so if you risk bringing in a gem'd piece, to find an npc to de gem it and try again

[swift coral]

yessirr

[long mantle]

depends on the patch tbh..

[coarse star]

yeah, and all the good stuff gets giga nerfed. Like reqium of fairy was good at 5 percent mpower bonus, but wasn't op. Not its down to 2.5 which is just like a normal socket

[swift coral]

yeah that would be cool, also disenchanting for the materials needed for caster gear upgrade paths

[warm fable]

its still empty #graysuns-plate

[coarse star]

Based on what the devs have said, if you decide to trust them, a lot of things people hate are being fixed next wipe. and no matter the state the game typically gets 10-15k first month of wipe.

But it will probably lose pop and be another 3-4 month wipe which is way too long

[cyan monolith]

sadly thats most crafted gear, doesnt give u any extra stuff just a free high roll on whatever (pdr, mdr, ect) and for the cost/how annoying getting the materials to craft shit i dont think thats a good system rn

[coarse star]

once thing I like is the recycler/grinder system in midnight walkers(i think its in arc raiders too) Lets you scrap items for there components.

Wouldnt really fit into a game like this I don't think, but some sort of way to decraft an item into some of its materials could be cool

[cyan monolith]

remember to give suggestions so the devs can ignore them

[coarse star]

yeah with geming its a bit better, since like during ssf you can craft a gold item and quad gem it so its like a legendary that only takes purple gems. but by no means is crazy

[long mantle]

[cyan monolith]

honestly not a big fan of how gemming is rn

[coarse star]

what don't you like about it?

too bad, too good, or something else

[swift coral]

I'd prefer that the best thing to do with surplus gear early on is disenchant/dismantle it for materials instead of selling it, pacing wise
Having a use for gear that you once kept to use, but you have outgrown.

Valuable gear that you wouldn't quite want to part with type shi, used to improve from your new baseline

[granite surge]

Mornin/good day everyone!

[coarse star]

Yeah progression sytems like these would be huge. And instead of relying on a specific ssf mode, have reason to not use market and certain things you cant buy the materials for off of market.

not saying they would have to get rid of ssf. But imo ssf is kind of a bandaid currently

imo a good start would be to honestly make pretty much every crafting supply(like ores) not able to be bought off of market, then buff all the crafts.

However this could get kinda lame for like tidestone, froststone, and gold.

[cyan monolith]

i dont like how gemming in its current state makes every piece of gear the same maximum value (outside of +all) it just turns it into: Cost of gem + Socket fee = gear price.
I think some rolls should be lower and/or not available and only obtainable through doing quests for merchant.

[swift coral]

a market backed by genuine supply and demand and not fake values

[coarse star]

yeah most of the market just gets manipulated and controlled. A lot more non marketable stuff would be big. And like have pve mode gear not be marketable

[swift coral]

thats until someone manipulates the supply and the demand but oh well

[coarse star]

im fine with certain quest items being buyable off market(like bone powder and such)

but having to go hunt for stuff for good crafts is so fun.

[swift coral]

IMO bartering would be healthier than gold based auction house

[cyan monolith]

i miss the days before religion when i would spend the 1st month of wipe buying rubysilver powder to make 12x ROI when the crafts dropped

[cyan monolith]

i think the quest system could be better structured

some quests are free that unlock important crafts

then some quests that unlock BS useless stuff is the hardest shit ever

[coarse star]

yeah I think it could be evened out. I don't think they should be too tedious, but its weird some taking like 4 maggots and another taking 1 spec fabric, 5 enchanted fabric and stuff

[swift coral]

I think stuff like this is for sure fun.
Personally I'd like finding a valuable item that I know people want, knowing I could trade it for many different things, rather than attributing it to a gold amount.

[cyan monolith]

i think this game just lacks rewarding time spent

theres nothing in this game that you can grind and truly feel like you gained something worth it

[swift coral]

stingray egg is a good bartering item lol

gold irrelevant, brings true value to the table, can get what you desire ez, nothing quite holds weight like that that wont be sold in gold or gold analog

[swift coral]

demigod sash bro

[coarse star]

yeah trading certain items instead of just selling it for gold is pretty fun.

[coarse star]

yeah and the only stuff kind of close to this are the questts, where most of the last ones are meaningless. and artifacts off boss which are way rarer then neccesary

[cyan monolith]

especially demigod

back in the day it used to be actually hard to get, now you legit get it passively

[warm fable]

#graysuns-plate
what is this channel for if there is nothing new in it?

[swift coral]

i think so, but as for how it is now..
Why in the hell would anyone of a sane mind trade 20 maggots for 15 Grave essence, if they could convert it all into gold and get what they need that way.
I'd understand if things never become bartering focused but I'd still always be a lil sad that things arent that way, oh well

[cyan monolith]

i guarantee you 80% of the demigods past 5 seasons wouldn't have even gotten pathfinder in season 2

[cyan monolith]

bro said this 4 times now

[coarse star]

Im fine with how easy demigod is to get now. Some people don't like it, buts its a limited thing locked to each season. So locking people out of it for not doing a big grind is kind of lame.

and arena rewards will take the place of what people wanted demigod ones to be

[cyan monolith]

it doesnt have to be a grind and i dont think it should be, i just think it should reward skill and not hours played

[swift coral]

There's nothing really encouraging players to even try to push for it.
the reward is a straight up dice roll whether it's something you personally think is worth it, I think that's part of the core issue

[coarse star]

if they could add a system like that where non marketable items could be traded for other ones that would be sick. However I feel that is unlikely or would be far down the road.

But like being a gob caves farmer and trading your gold ore for a wyvern farmers tidestone. Maybe you through in some goblin ears or a troll pelt too

[coarse star]

yeah thats valid, but I think arena rewards will be that instead. and that mode is much better for skill expression.

Currently hr dungeon is very skilless imo.

[swift coral]

Yeah that would be great imo

[cyan monolith]

true

i really just hope you dont have to stay at warlord to get the rewards

cause no one wants to sit every weekend for the whole wipe playing otherwise u lose it

[coarse star]

Yeah I hope warlord gets made a regional leaderboard and has a bit more than 100 spots a region.
I know I will get warlord, and get the cosmetic if there is one. But it NEEDS to be region based, and I think it would be better if a bit more people could get it.

So its still competitive but not unachievable

[cyan monolith]

glad they're atleast giving an actual reason to play arena, i got warlord when it released and havent played it like at all since

[cyan monolith]

good idea ngl

[supple drift]

Good morninggg yall!!! Ready for Ironmace to announce today?!?!

[cyan monolith]

actually very good idea, cause regions with less pop literally cant reach warlord

[coarse star]

like I feel 1000-1500 total spots over like 5-6 regions is not a bad deal. Its still a rare and hard cosmetic, with a competitive leaderboard. but feels achievable for anyone trying

[supple drift]

🎉 🎉 🎉

[swift coral]

i can already see the EU vs NA warlord memes

OCE warlord: "gday mate"

[coarse star]

its actually kind of the opposite. Last leaderboard I think 80 percent of them were from regeions that werent na or eu. and what happens is if there is people above you from a different region, its impossible to climb since you can't fight them

[cyan monolith]

i mean its common knowledge in all comp games: NA diamond = EU silver

[supple drift]

[coarse star]

people in any region will cope whatever. I think its a funny joke to make. But there is no actual way to compare well cause of ping.

[cyan monolith]

yea

[coarse star]

have seen good eu players do good on na and vice versa. same with any game.

But beef with other regions is fun so I don't mind

[cyan monolith]

i will say dnd prob has higher skill players in NA cause theres just way less comp in eu

[swift coral]

a good while back i remember checking leaderboard and it top ten worldwide was mainly people in the OCE discord, they were probably teaming ngl but still

not saying leaderboard is a good measure of mechanical skill but they were majority at the top which was interesting for such a small region

[cyan monolith]

eu is literally 4/5 complete clueless bots or 1/5 godteam

[coarse star]

they kinda 2 different games. both have a lot of skilled players, but eu has a lot of min maxers who play meta always. Na people kinda do whatever and either they are goated and win or bad and lose.

But like eu super abused 7 lads and buff ball and all that op stuff in the past

like before 7 lads got nerfed I heard eu was a cesspool of buff ball where who had most lads insta won

[cyan monolith]

yea eu got a lot of chuds but its like that in all games ngl

[cyan monolith]

it was bro 😂😂

[coarse star]

yeah its just interesting to see the big difference

[cyan monolith]

back when i used to play hr trios all day we ran into people with 7 lad barb + 3 more backup on their teammates

[coarse star]

yeah on east we only started running into it more towards end of the wipe.

And it was very broken but never became common enough for us for it to ruin lobbies

[cyan monolith]

thing is not even kite comp could counter prime lad abuse meta

[nimble stump]

nro what do i have to que to get players in my lobby holy

[cyan monolith]

cause they have like actual 3 min of immortality cause they're all running cleric

[worn rain]

Why are you guys all excited in the arena? Has anything been new info announced?

[cyan monolith]

no

nothing except theres arena rewards, so theres an actual reason to play it outside of ego points

[worn rain]

Ah, you had an idea. It's actually a great idea.

[nimble stump]

been queing solos and running into 0 players

[worn rain]

I'd like arena reward, but I'd be okay with a participation prize

[coarse star]

if its east probably cause its late. But normally na east hr gob caves tends to have players.

[safe nest]

why devs on radio silince mode? 2 months since kitchen entry

[swift coral]

health inspector

[safe nest]

and game is dying

[coarse star]

Graysun was in here giving good info a few hours ago. Typically checking graysun or chyunkyus's messages sometimes have info.

Will be a qna about next wipe soontm

[safe nest]

sweet, thx for information

[unique zinc]

soon

[storm kernel]

"good" He didn't really say anything.

[coarse star]

rats being removed/nerfed is huge. more comformation on a static rework is huge.

and either way will be a qna

[long mantle]

Anything is better than nothing haha

[safe nest]

at least we have something, i guess :/

[storm kernel]

They didn't give any date or what content will be included. All they said was that there would be information "soon".

[swift coral]

Also more clarity/confirmation that player housing and the 3d gathering hall space aren't one in the same but will interconnect

[storm kernel]

I would appreciate knowing at least when the Q&A will be.

[safe nest]

soon™

[delicate ibex]

Q&A will be scheduled once they located sdf's extra large sippy cup

[candid hull]

is some dude randomly entering straight into a corner of the map where I am halfway into the match sus?

full kit like a homing missile lmao

[regal plaza]

Wen wip

[long mantle]

[safe nest]

soon™

[tulip isle]

should be top 10 per class per region

you cant keep it class independent if wiz + fighter make up half the warlords alone

if they dont make any changes im just gonna queue barb on na or something

[quaint carbon]

i really dont think they gonna make something for warlord

[coarse star]

I feel they will probably do something, even if its like a simple name tag, or maybe like different font for your name

[quaint carbon]

time to meta slave to warlord

im dropping druid*and playing wiz ranger fighter to warlord ggez

[strange sage]

Atleast it would be more fun than grinding demi

[quaint carbon]

the all modes combined really was nice

i didnt have to grind demi this wipe, i got it by accident farming players in pvp

[strange sage]

i rarely play HR

[quaint carbon]

almost got demi on warlord and wiz same shit

[strange sage]

i still get the rank for the race every season, but never past that, might get demi this time cuz i want the sash skin

[quaint carbon]

when arena isnt out i need pvp so i run hr

[strange sage]

hr is just so ass, no matter the party size

[quaint carbon]

if those lobbies are dead or full of rats or you playing with timmy friends squire to riches lowkey heat. no red sim or door and doorer or ratting or third party sim people just brawling

[strange sage]

thing is, i NEVER get dead lobbies, its just 100 squire rogues and druids

[quaint carbon]

right now yes the lobbies are fucked

ESPECIALLY after repoze promoted that gameplay

[strange sage]

i was playing hr before he made the video, and it was still ass

i was crying about it in fighter chat because i was so fucking annoyed

[coarse star]

it was horrible before. Didnt make a different other than spread some awarenesse

[swift coral]

They seem to have got a better pipeline for cosmetics now, given that there are so many cape & shield skins in such a short amount of time.
I assume the way they made the recent cloaks was probably more efficient than the original process they had, since there was such a large gap between the cape skins & even the warden shield skin & these new ones
due to the fact that the warden and knight capes are only applied to one version of cape(vigilant cloak, adventurer cloak), I'd assume it's the case

[strange sage]

then i went pve hr and farmed troll+clops for like 10 hours and that was somehow more fun

[scenic dawn]

yeah the wall hacks are around, me and my friend get people banned for it in hr

[quaint carbon]

i have talked to and heard from lots of people that they started ratting after as either an "eye for an eye" thing or just curious how profitable it is

[supple garnet]

can you still get artifact from goblin caves gold room

[coarse star]

Maybe, all i know is it was horrible before and is horrible now. But at least devs did a patch that helped a bit.

I thought there was no world they every added back loot timer and removed invis looting and they actually did

[scenic dawn]

what ive started doing to get some good fights is rush down to inferno to the modules around boss room and you can usually always find 1 geared player ready to fight and there is no reds or blues so cant run away and no rats down there, and if there isnt anyone then just kill boss get some good loot

[coarse star]

not a bad idea, I hate inferno pvp though. sometimes is giga cancer

my strat is to go solo gobbys, afk in spawn for 4 minutes then go fight.
as intended

[tulip isle]

This it was the exact same before. Half the lobbies were rats anyway

[scenic dawn]

well of course as intended

[coarse star]

yep if your not spending half your time playing a dif game afk while in dungeon your doing something wrong.

[cyan monolith]

realistically will they add any significant change to ratting

it feels like an impossible fix since ratting is a human issue not a gameplay one

[misty ridge]

Make higher movespeed reduce your tankiness and damage innately lol

[coarse star]

yeah there is some improvements but its not really fixable.

But in general new wipe means less rats. But a lot of the ratting issues also stem from other issues in the game.

Druid and rogues bad design also makes them amazing for ratting. Insta taking reds kind of helps rats more than other people, they can loot and instantly dip out and depo.

Continuous dungeon constnastly filing more rats and people into the dungeon.

[misty ridge]

apart from skill bonuses

[coarse star]

but a lot it can be improved by improving other things

[misty ridge]

...I need to stop making such bad takes lol

[cyan monolith]

idk

ratting wasnt bad this wipe until the past 2 weeks

and before that i dont think its been horrible since season 3

[misty ridge]

I wish Fighter had a forward lunge ability that let you break doors with it

Or revert the door breaking change

because breaking doors was so good

[cyan monolith]

you can still break doors

[coarse star]

people get bored of wipe, or go broke. Need something else to do or to make money so they rat. Then people who get ratted get annoyed and also start ratting. Kinda loops and the more people who get ratted start ratting

[misty ridge]

Yes but it's not viable compared to opening them, which was the whole point

[coarse star]

honestly has had this issue at a point every wipe. But it was really bad this wipe.

[cyan monolith]

pretty sure the point was to prevent door spam pvp

[supple drift]

I just want a fighter to have a new exclusive utility item, a grapple hook/tether hook. No more rats running away from me.

[cyan monolith]

everyone having crush is dumb

[swift coral]

i honestly liked the breaking door change as it was, bar a few things like many weapons one hitting doors.
Felt good with longsword as warlock imo, being two hit i think

[misty ridge]

I just want Fighter to have something lol

[coarse star]

yeah I dont like the impact resist change. I like beging able to break them fast. But not you just acnt with some wpns

[misty ridge]

Our newest weapon was... the Lantern Shield?

[cyan monolith]

never noticed it, might be worse on NA compared to EU then

[misty ridge]

I think?

[coarse star]

im fine with 2 handers not being able to 1 tap doors.

[misty ridge]

Newest skill was Spell Reflect?

[coarse star]

purge shot I believe, which is no longer a skill.

[misty ridge]

for Fighter

[coarse star]

ah

[misty ridge]

Fighters don't have anything and after so many hours he just feels boring to play because no changes have significantly altered your options to play him

[warm fable]

#graysuns-plate still empty

[misty ridge]

I should rephrase

[coarse star]

this is 90 percent of classes. But honestly fighter has much more build variety then most classes in this game

[coarse summit]

[cyan monolith]

^

[coarse star]

got slayer, got sword and shield. got dual wield plate with like demonsglee. got longsword

but every class has huge issues with diversity. but at least its not ranger and probably barb with the least diversity of any classes

[supple drift]

Fighter feels weaker than any other classes. They felt like.. 1st Job while other classes are 2nd Job Advancement. So, I played Bard as a subclass after I play Fighter. :L

[misty ridge]

They are a great class and offer a lot of variety for their team, but as somebody who mains the class, they haven't received anything that really changes those ways in a very long time

[coarse star]

again that is every single class

[drifting scaffold]

just did this wipe tho..

[coarse star]

but fighter still has more build diversity and options then most other classes.

[misty ridge]

It's because headshot multiplier got buffed 25% while PDR curve got changed several times over

[supple drift]

[misty ridge]

Riddle me this, what was the meta build before and after perk changes

[granite surge]

mornin cquinn!

[coarse star]

yeah fighter is not weak in any way lol. still easily the best melee class and the only melee class asside from disso bard that can really compete with ranged meta

[supple drift]

I thought it's barb, no?

I see.

[drifting scaffold]

sprint second wind before, I see a LOT of ppl run victory strike and adrenaline rush now. even spell reflect is "meta" to a degree

[coarse star]

barb is pretty balanced rn. In low gear its much better but low gear fighter still cooks barb

[drifting scaffold]

gm Panderz

[supple drift]

[misty ridge]

Okay fair enough but both Sprint and Second Wind have fallen into obscurity due to meta shifts with the damage and tankiness

[tulip isle]

One of the issues with this game they add new stuff that doesn't really matter like watermap or new classes most people won't play but don't do anything to spice up things for existing classes

[supple drift]

If only.. shield desync isnt issue... barb just bang bang me through shields.

[cyan monolith]

barb has way too much ms for being the "slowest class"

[coarse star]

no build diversity change is likely to change up meta.

Fighter has a lot more build diversity than most other classes. and every class needs new stuff and has a diversity issue, not just fighter

[drifting scaffold]

idk the changes to those skills made them picked

[coarse star]

his ms really isn't that high. achilles lantern needs to be removed(somehow got added back) but asside from that

[coarse star]

those are likely still the 2 most used fighter perks currently, maybe adrenaline is used more than sprint

[supple drift]

sprint is trash. ironmace made it worse..

[coarse star]

sprint is very good

[supple drift]

I missed.. full duration sprint instead of losing speed over time.

[coarse star]

litterally every melee class would gladly take sprint

it used to be extremely good, but got nerfed so now its just good.

[drifting scaffold]

i think it's well balanced now where you don't run at cap mspeed just for pressing q no matter what

[supple drift]

I still think it's bad. adrenaline is still better than sprint. That's just me.

[supple garnet]

can you still get artifact from goblin caves gold room?

[deft cobalt]

Adrenaline rush is more of an all rounder as it has a mini sprint incorporated in it

[misty ridge]

Worse than Adrenaline Rush

30/20/10 ms is useless

[coarse star]

I mean its higher avg ms and burst ms

[misty ridge]

Realistically you are only running Sprint if you're already running Adrenaline Rush in the other slot

[coarse star]

idk I see a ton of sprint second wind. still the most played build

[drifting scaffold]

hang on i dont agree with this at all adrenaline rush and sprint have 2 different spots lol

[coarse star]

at least for sword and bord because adrenaline rush isnt as helpful when your playing for a block and getting free 10 percent from counter attack

[misty ridge]

The average MS for it is 20, which was so abysmally bad back when Sprint was 20 for 6 seconds that so many people complained about it being bad it got reverted within the next hotfix or 2

[coarse star]

since sword and bord isnt a raw dps build

[drifting scaffold]

they function totally different. 5% mspeed is 15 and you lose 12 after

[finite flicker]

soon。🌋

[coarse star]

its still the highest burst ms ability? and is still used a ton

[warm fable]

Soon

[supple drift]

In HR?

[misty ridge]

Blocking is a gamble, it's better to just statstick trade with Sword and Shield, unless it's a build you are sure you can't trade with

[drifting scaffold]

yeah for a shield or parry based fighter there's no way adrenaline rush is better. you can block reliably

[hybrid sequoia]

repoze, solely responsible for rogue infestation, now also responsible for druids

[misty ridge]

Which with True Damage stacking on fast weapons with sword and shield you should be able to trade most

[supple drift]

Don't forget about shield desync. ever.

[warm fable]

I'm not fighter main but why isn't shield bash a perk?

[static zodiac]

Shield bash

[drifting scaffold]

sorry i don't get it since I'm like 14ms away from my server but i understand the issue

[misty ridge]

My guess would be because it's an active ability that has to have a button pressed to register

[coarse star]

yeah I only ever talk hr

[tulip isle]

I think fighter can be happy with the abilities they have, sprint breakthrough adren second wind shield bash all viable

[misty ridge]

I would love if it were a perk that activated by double clicking your shield

[tulip isle]

Compared to other classes that's a lot

[drifting scaffold]

100% im looking for that next wipe for other classes

[misty ridge]

Well I'm not :p

[coarse star]

it is not a gamble. Some weapons it is but it is still extremely good.

Block vs arming sword, morning star, etc. its very good. also counter attack ms bonus is nutty

[supple drift]

If Ironmace combine sprint and breakthrough into one ability, I will be happy.

[drifting scaffold]

that's way OP though

[signal knoll]

hey guys, what is a good way to farm ap right now, and second question is when does the season end aproximately, will I have enought time ?

[coarse star]

then you have the best ability in the history of this game.

[misty ridge]

Though I'm also salty since I'm a Longsword main.

And I watched that weapon get nerfed repeatedly

[supple drift]

Indeed, I want it

[coarse star]

longsword is cringe.

[misty ridge]

Not that it matters much, we rock it for the aura, it was never exactly a strong nor meta weapon

[coarse star]

normally garbage but relies on hard countering specific wpns

[drifting scaffold]

longsword is still very strong, just atp requires 3 perks and your opponent to have bad aim

but like, it really has no place in arena for instance lol

[tulip isle]

You can't expect to guarantee blocking every hit but a fighter that doesn't use blocks properly is not a good fighter

[coarse star]

I think one of the current top arena fighters is longsword only but I could be wrong

[tulip isle]

It's a not hold M1 class with snb

[drifting scaffold]

and i bet he has a shield to swap to lol

[misty ridge]

If it's the one I'm thinking of I think he plays Sword and Board mostly

[drifting scaffold]

i like watching top tier arena they do fun stuff like hot swapping

[supple drift]

Fighter always bring different weapons or gears depending on situations.

[coarse star]

I don't think he does, but im not 100 percent familiar so I couldn't tell you

[supple drift]

I like pavise.

[misty ridge]

I would be lying if I told you I enjoyed playing Arena in any context other than meming with my friends on random builds and going like 8 for 20 xD

[signal knoll]

hey guys, what is a good way to farm ap right now, and second question is when does the season end approximately, will I have enough time ?
Longsword fighter main, thanks in advance

[supple drift]

go water map and loot treasure hoard at the center.

[coarse star]

Taff witten is currently num 1 fighter. Im pretty sure he does longsword, I know he does in dungeon but I could be wrong.

I also know mawuie runs a ton of longsword pavise, but idk if he hit warlord with it or not.

[misty ridge]

You likely will. There is probably at least 2 weeks until wipe.

[supple drift]

I want a wipe next week.

Today should be a day of announcement or Q&A at least.

[misty ridge]

We will have to see what Ironmace has in store

[supple drift]

or this Thursday at least.

[coarse star]

You should have time, doesnt take too long. Probably just going down all 3 levels in crypts is the best way, since you get ap for going down levels. but frost caves and water map also work, and may be less populated

[misty ridge]

Oh we are also supposed to have a hardcore arena event soon

I wonder what that entails

[supple drift]

that would be about.. Squire to Rich Arena.

[coarse star]

true hopefully thats about to happen.

Im hoping its arena but you get the other teams gear if you win. And allow nameds cause screw it

would be peak as long as there is not a ranking system.

[supple drift]

Yeah, I like that but also it will make more people to cry a lot. Muahahaha

[misty ridge]

Basekit arena would be interesting

but certain classes would require more than basekit to compete with others

[coarse star]

you meant like squire, cause thats just norms.

or do you mean like blue pre made kits across the board

[signal knoll]

thanks for the reply, I was wondering what works best, usually I see prop interaction or smth like that from the list at the end getting 100-200ap, what exactly does that mean ? maybe I need to brake barrels or smth ? I know shrines is good, subbosses are 10 only

[misty ridge]

Ideally, I'd prefer they just let you choose your items and rolls for Arena

[warm fable]

Arena gear limit could changes across the season

[misty ridge]

Though the downside to that is once people find the meta builds, it's all you'd ever see

[coarse star]

I think there is 2 types of prop interaction. a like low tier prop interation and high tier(I think it shows 2 different categories)

interacting with shrines I believe gives a ton of prop interaction, so getting those whenever you see them works. I also think it applies to high tier chests but not as much.

[coarse star]

multiclass arena choose your own gear

[misty ridge]

Yea there is. Things like key doors and piles are considered high end

[coarse star]

ppl would meta abuse but would still be for fun overall so a lot of ppl will expiriment

[misty ridge]

I know people don't agree with me but I really liked multiclass

[signal knoll]

Okay, thanks, Ill try that

[misty ridge]

I wish they tried it while only letting you cross with one class

I hope we may one day get to play it again

[coarse star]

I thought it was fun for a 1 week event. I would be fine if it if they outlawed specific perks and skills.

Ie no robust, druid forms, specific spells, etc.

crossing with 1 class could work, but then everyone just picks druid

[misty ridge]

I just want to do Ray of Darkness Lightning Beam once. Unlimited power

Or chain lightning lightning beam maybe

[supple drift]

Monk with cleric's smite. Holy Flurry Strikes. Hiyah hiyah hiyah~

[turbid elbow]

lifebloom dreamwalk TM lock? i'm in

[lapis birch]

I liked wizard with cleric spells, especially insta cast earthquake

[coarse star]

sorc would also be a big pick now because you can cast with your hands. and can run insta cast.

Like imagine a ranger with quick shot, and 5 insta cast sorc spells. He spams spells like golem then goes back to shooting

imo they just need to outlaw speicifc perks and skills and it could be really fun.

Let people expiriment and cross stuff. but remove the overly meta stuff like druid forms]

[misty ridge]

Now, I don't know how it works, but I'd assume that you'd have to take Ranger perks on a Sorc, since their spell memory doesn't look distinct from the other classes

[lapis birch]

We were supposed to get multiclassing as event at the end of previous wipe

[misty ridge]

So I think hand casting is baked into Sorcerer rather than their skills

[coarse star]

hmm thats a good point. not sure how that works

but yeah outlaw the overly broken stuff and bring back multiclassing as a week or two event

[warm fable]

Will devs find a solution for game getting boring mid season?

[lapis birch]

Still remember rondel surv bow sprint barb

[coarse star]

hopefully eventually. but we really just need shorter wipes

[lapis birch]

4 months is too long, maybe soft resets or something

[coarse star]

even 3 months is too long. imo 2 months is sweet spot. 1-2 weelks of ssf, 4-5 weeks of normal game. then an end of wipe even for a week or two.

its fine if there isnt much new content on wipe, just a wipe overall is huge

[supple drift]

then, quests should be easy to complete.

no stupid amount absurd grindfest quests

[coarse star]

the required quests are pretty easy

the ones to get 150 rep which is all that matters aren't too bad

the ones after are cancer but don't do anything

[supple drift]

[lapis birch]

They said they need time to make content, so I would be fine with 4 if it came with good chunk of content or change to gameplay loop, in-between like 2 months in would be time for soft reset, something similar maybe to semi wipe (funny wipe idk)

[coarse star]

they dont need content with every wipe. they barely need anything

I mean they could do like a month semi wipe in between, but seems unneccesary. ig would be nice to not have to level or do quests every time

[lapis birch]

Maybe half month of multiclassing or some sort of event

[coarse star]

yeah there is tons and tons of end of wipe even options. need it to be a consistent thing

[supple drift]

I want to know what Ironmace working on...

I need to know! NOW!

IRONMACE MUST PUT SHIELD DESYNC AS A HIGHEST PRIORITY!

#fighter message

[tulip isle]

Imagine if there was actual events and no adding a merchant with recycled currency that sells you purples isn't an event

[lapis birch]

Maybe if they are done with social clubs or whatever and finish Faustian they could start working on map events, blood moon, extra plants on map, more loot less time or something, would be so refreshing to current game loop

And start randomizing traps around the map

[supple drift]

For event, just throw a loot goblin with an artifact weapon running around like crazy.

[drifting scaffold]

wtf is this

[tulip isle]

Look at all the useless shit they wasted dev time on, water map Faustian instead of improving the core game

[weak zinc]

loot goblin sounds fun actually

[lapis birch]

I mean Faustian is nice, but should be less of a priority

[drifting scaffold]

bro is just getting diffed going "omg i can't react its unreactable" no shit he's reacting late as hell

[tulip isle]

Yea he just blocks too late like you're not playing on lan and hit reg is client side

[supple drift]

No, he is testing if he can block when other "starts" to swing.

[tulip isle]

Idk why people like sparky that have been playing forever don't understand this concept

[supple drift]

Basically, you must have pre-aim block in order to block

[shrewd pollen]

So is the winter event code already suppose to be expired?

[burnt citrus]

Anyone else getting extreme lag on this game

[drifting scaffold]

but he's not blocking when he starts to swing? he's blocking late

[lapis birch]

If I can recall correctly you can always phase through shield if you start your swing and do very quick 180

[supple drift]

[tulip isle]

Yes cause you're playing an online game and information takes a while to travel between attacker client, server and defender client

[supple drift]

[supple garnet]

everyone acting like bro has to specifically parry this guys elbow

you have plenty of time to react even with desync if you simply parry the weapon the way it is meant to be done

[lapis birch]

For the most part, right

[supple drift]

tell that to barb's club.

[supple garnet]

I do agree that it is for the most part

not always

[drifting scaffold]

you can do this on a few weapons but it requires some insane drag and the opponent to do nothing

[supple drift]

also, cleric's morning star can just phase through my pavise when cleric bow his head down like 90 degree and start hitting.

i was like.. shield actually sucks.

[drifting scaffold]

yeah the morningstar is one of the worst offenders bc of the arm

[lapis birch]

I've had that fight where cleric would spin like crazy and no matter where I blocked he always hit, don't tell anyone about 180 strat

[drifting scaffold]

you have to basically turn straight up and crouch to even have achance

[supple drift]

so dumb.

[drifting scaffold]

thats just drag tho you can do that on club cutlass daggers etc

any weapon where your characters arm comes out in front and the weapon hitbox starts partway thru the animation

[lapis birch]

This game don't have true drag but I know what you mean, I mean that even if the weapon lands on your shield it phases because YOUR client didn't register it fast enough

So hence 180

[supple drift]

[drifting scaffold]

yeah i would say more like your client didn't get it across to the server enough? but yeah basically

[lapis birch]

Something like that

Kinda sad

[drifting scaffold]

they gotta add no-dmg hitbox to the arm imo so you can sour spot block

[tulip isle]

Blocking is very strong as is imo

[lapis birch]

Maybe make sour spot do 50% DMG at max so it's actually required to kill someone using your weapon to its purpose and not just mace smite someone with 70% DMG handle hits

I can't remember how much sour spots did, I think it's close to 80/90 now

[drifting scaffold]

it varies depending on the weapon

[drifting scaffold]

yeah i agree personally, but i have low ping lol people with high ping seem to struggle

[dense portal]

Anyone know when the Q&A is today?

[supple drift]

I asked someone if they are bored with arc raiders, one of them said.. "We need more events, new maps, new guns, and need to fix all the bugs or else half amount of players will gone by end of the month."

I guess we did the same for this game, DaD.

[next flint]

no company can create good content faster than people can consume it

[supple drift]

[misty ridge]

I tried some ARC Raiders. It's cool, I like how the tactics for blasting the clankers changes based on the type of enemy

[supple drift]

i see

[misty ridge]

Like I shot at a flying ball for a while without it dying. A few stray bullets landed on its propeller and it broke off and then it clicked

[supple drift]

ah, that is pretty cool

wish it does the same for skeletons.

break their legs, they crawl

[zinc nexus]

can we get an gift code thats not expired, it said till the 14 on the video description.

[sage hill]

does anyone know when the wipe is

[misty ridge]

The date was changed to the 7th

[lapis birch]

Mid month, so I assume it's 2 weeks max

[zinc nexus]

eeehhhhh fine

[ember snow]

or not

[scenic dawn]

some weapons have 3 different hitboxes while some have only 1 with no sour spot

[kindred sundial]

why does it just say failed to connect to server? i just wanna play the game :(

[swift coral]

i miss sea pickle

[uneven fulcrum]

sorry 4k, but gg

[runic beacon]

cant wait til the wipe next week

[supple drift]

SDF.. Terrence.. Graysun.. Chyunkus.. Paul.. Please.. Announce something, so I can endure once more..

[scenic dawn]

boys there not even a wipe timer its going to be longer than next week

is anyone hopping on midnight walkers when that comes out ?

[distant yoke]

does anyone have some gold they dont need :3

[warm fable]

#graysuns-plate still empty

[oblique lantern]

wipe next week ?

[supple drift]

i..im.. dying.. I need hope..

[delicate ibex]

Removing rat form is the first step on the road to redemption. Thank you Graysun

[vale oar]

Can we get to the part where you become a blackjack dealer with your very own blackjack table

[supple drift]

[uneven ether]

Anyone know when the new wipe is?

[vale oar]

Still planned for this month. Once the date is confirmed you'll all hear it very quickly

[swift coral]

Half cigarette.. Half man..
Will you hit or will you stand?

[supple drift]

[runic beacon]

next week

[supple drift]

I.. I'm alive!

[oblique lantern]

no

[finite flicker]

soon 🌋

[static zodiac]

Wipe NOW!!

I demand it!!

[gritty ermine]

Wipe hype

[unique zinc]

I demand all swords to have ripostes

[cyan monolith]

nothing happens

[unique zinc]

blocking with an arming sword isn't as satisfying as with a rapier

[manic stag]

Zweihander repost

[unique zinc]

Aware

[restive sinew]

I still have hope that this game will survive and the devs will add some crazy shit and rebalance everything that’s plaguing the game rn

[gritty ermine]

I hope they rather listen to actual players than streamers

[unique zinc]

they don't even listen to streamers 😭

[quaint carbon]

x to doubt

[unique zinc]

they listen to sdf's revelations after playing some arc raiders

"let's get rid of that damn circle "

[restive sinew]

Are the actual players saying the same thing as streamers?

[unique zinc]

gotta remember that streamers are also actual players that have thousands of hours in this game

but yeah anyways we're going to space right ?

[scenic dawn]

a lot of changes that need to be done streamers have said is the ting tho

[strange cipher]

And who are trying to make drama so they get more views

[unique zinc]

who ?

[drifting scaffold]

who ? all of them

[unique zinc]

ah yes the famous drama

[drifting scaffold]

they're all farming engagement

you gotta be clueless like ur pfp if u dont know this by now

[unique zinc]

Shirley they don't

[oak granite]

game dead yet?

[restive sinew]

Almost, gotta see if people are willing to come back to it next wipe (soon they say)

[gritty ermine]

I find it hilarious that this one streamer had quite a lot of fun on double jump rogue tho, I mean he still has but when it was insanely op he in specific even tried to defend it like good one. But sure blame the class that has no ranged option just because you fail to kill a squishy panther

[unique zinc]

no to be fair I agree that some drama farm, but when it comes to what they ask for the game to change

[scenic dawn]

its like sdf and druid

[unique zinc]

it's not gonna be very different from the main playerbase

[oak granite]

last time i tuned into this games news the dev was tryna kill it is that still goin on

[tulip isle]

He succeeded

[unique zinc]

"tryna"

sdf was playing arc raiders when he suddently received the revelation that the circle isn't that great

he wasn't playing dark, but arc

[open hedge]

he wants dark to go to space now too

[unique zinc]

I wonder what kinda PVE he wants to add

[gritty ermine]

He wants us to swim in lava next map

[open hedge]

the water map switch up was crazy though. honeymoon phase effect?

[gritty ermine]

I mean all those volcanic hints must mean something

[open hedge]

bring back penguin strat no balls sdf

"its not an over sight its a feature"

[scenic dawn]

bring back the molten lava giants there were in boss room playtest 1 and 2 with lava map

[unique zinc]

it's not just hints, the rewards for this season's high roller is ifrit race (basically a fire related demon), a volcano campfire and an emberflame sash

wait till they add an flying imp form to the druid that's immune to lava and fire

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Bring back minimum gear requirements for PVP HR entry
permaban the following:
Cheaters
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

[grand slate]

bro th is kid is so weird hes sitting inside the boss room so neither of us can kill it and hes been doing it for 3 games

[restive sinew]

They probably are going to reuse the stuff they already have and not waste them, like with what you said and with guild halls

[gaunt oracle]

if its pvp mode, kill him. if its pve mode, get the boss to do it

[deft cobalt]

People will just buy 3 ceremonial staffs or something to hit that Gearscore.. they could however implement HR needing at least an epic grade item in each slot to queue or something instead

[scenic dawn]

yeah that be good

[scenic dawn]

oh yeah they will reuse if they can

[gaunt oracle]

I say "bring back" but I hated that system too. its just shorter than saying "make people wear an item in every armor/jewelry/one weapon slot of at least X rarity"
if you want big boy gear brought into the dungeons, you need to give players a reason. until ironmace can figure out how to do that, they need to just force gear in

[tulip isle]

Just remove druid

Fixes 90% of the ratting problem

[drifting scaffold]

surely we just rework it

[blazing flame]

yo when is wipe

[restive sinew]

Reds are a problem and needs a solution, gear score isn’t really a problematic thing right now if you’re not adding all the rats, and rmters/cheaters will always be a thing and a hard one to get rid of

[deft cobalt]

Yeah fair.. I mean you can buy the cheapest epic item for each slot which is still cheap but its better than constant squire guys running around

[drifting scaffold]

you can do gearscore matching without the obtuse bracketing

[scenic dawn]

just go inferno or goblin caves to kill people, no reds

[drifting scaffold]

the biggest mistake with gearscore was adding firm limited brackets. the idea of matching similarly geared people together was good and worked decently

[scenic dawn]

worked decently until you think about druid lolol

[drifting scaffold]

it only was an issue bc of the firm bracket limit tho

[grand slate]

its pvp but i cant if he just sits on the wall of the boss room

[drifting scaffold]

a druid could bring no weapon (which is a big gs hit) but if we take out the firm limit you can still match a druid with no weapon and otherwise good gear with ppl with good gear

[scenic dawn]

would just have to be a rarity limit not a gs limit thing

[carmine void]

SQUIRE FISHING ROD IS TRASH FIX YOUR LAKE IM

[drifting scaffold]

yeah right, or just a softer matchmaking with variance vs. hard limits

[restive sinew]

Inferno is nice but I don’t want to have to clear 20 mobs that can two shot me each module just to find a ap farmer, and I don’t want to deal with 6 druids in squire ratting kills in goblin caves.

[gaunt oracle]

just because something is hard to do doesn't mean you don't try. combating cheaters and teamers should be ironmace's #1 priority as its whats killing their game fastest
PVP HR is the mode where people hunt people for gear. If people don't bring in gear, the mode isn't as exciting. If people are dying to BULLSHIT often enough (teamers/cheaters/glitches/unstable servers) they won't risk their gear. There is NO FIX to PVP HR that doesn't involve putting cheaters and teamers on the endangered species list

[restive sinew]

Sorry to say this but cheating is not the biggest problem this game is facing. It’s the actual gameplay. No one wants to play this game in the first place and not because of cheaters, it’s because of the game.

[static zodiac]

Play wiz, Invis the boss

[gaunt oracle]

teaming is cheating, and yes... it is the biggest problem right now

for PVP hr

[gloomy aspen]

Whens wipe

[blissful mirage]

in 24 days

[restive sinew]

I don’t think anyone agrees to that, unless ur getting ratted in hr by two Druids or rogues. Two dudes killing the dude in the middle isn’t the biggest problem. Theres a list of problems that all need solving first

[scenic dawn]

yeah that why i just dont play gc and i mean idk if you going in to inferno with anything but squire gear its fine just aggro a mob or 2 at a time

[static zodiac]

Unconfirmed

[broken heron]

where have u heard it ?

[slate hawk]

Would be at most 23 days since it's planned for January (depending on timezones)

[mossy pond]

im still getting ready to use this shovel on druids when wipe happens

[gritty ermine]

pete has his fun with reckless I can tell

[mossy pond]

fun fact trech lungs cool down bonus works with reckless

[gaunt oracle]

#the-tavern message
#the-tavern message
#the-tavern message
#the-tavern message
#the-tavern message
#the-tavern message
#the-tavern message

Nobody thinks teamers are the problem? Try again?

[quick geode]

Wipe the game

[formal otter]

How do you keep finding out stuff like this? At this point, IM should hire you to write bug tickets for them.

[restive sinew]

I’m not saying teaming isn’t a problem. I’m saying it’s not the biggest problem. The biggest problem are Druids/rats. Druids are way too flexible and need a rework immediately to fix the problem of ratting. And rogues just need to have 1 hide, not two. Those are way more of a problem than getting teamed on and out position.

[mossy pond]

finding stuff out what you on about i just a lizard with a shovel

[restive sinew]

Idk why I’m typing in here bruh I look like a chud 😂

[distant yoke]

any quests that give cosmetics this season??

[swift coral]

😭

[slate hawk]

Tavern master, goblin merchant, collector questlines iirc

[drifting scaffold]

it’s wild what you can discover by… playing the game…

[signal night]

15 minutes 🐢 🛹

[formal otter]

They are definitely a big problem and I blame IM for it. I reported countless teamers by now. For most, nothing happens. But occasionally, I do get a temp ban confimation... around one month after the report. So people are free to team with no issue except getting a 1 week break at some point when they might not even be playing anymore.

Without serious consequences, why even bother to report? Why even bother checking them 1 month later?

[gaunt oracle]

I watched the repoze video too. Nerfing druid and rogue won't make PVP HR fun again, but go for it. Remove all damage scaling from druid shapeshift forms like it was on test release. all forms deal punch damage now. Take away invisibility from rogue... and everyone else for that matter. 1 Month later you're still going to have dead lobbies because "the dungeon is only full of squire wizards/barbs/rangers/whatever the next fotm class is" because people STILL don't want to bring in gear to die to bullshit. Yes, balance classes... but also stop emboldening cheaters by not dealing with them.

[warm fable]

#graysuns-plate is empty 🍽️

[distant yoke]

Are there any cosmetics for quests this season? I remember there being a mummy race for quests once

[formal otter]

I play the game a lot, but that 10 KNW lizard can list 20 niche bugs off the top of his head.

[signal night]

#the-tavern message

[gaunt oracle]

YUP. When cheaters (hacks/teaming/RMT all fall under the umbrella of CHEATER) feel like there are no consequences they will multiply like rabbits. When the public perception is that there are no consequence for cheating (like it is now), people that were "on-the-fence" about cheating lose a reason not to

ban em all

[restive sinew]

Teaming is not as harmful as cheating.

[distant yoke]

oh sorry didnt see that since there was no ping

[gaunt oracle]

teaming IS CHEATING in PVP HR. if you're not ragebaiting you're defending cheaters. either way, I don't want to see it. byeee

[runic beacon]

cant wait til the wipe next week

[signal night]

im pro- do whatever you want

make bigger maps and HR trios base but you can go in with less people like playtest days and people would have less ability to abuse queue sniping and teaming

[static zodiac]

Shovel 40k reference

[formal otter]

To be fair, when I reported actuals hacks they got perma banned and quite fast. I imagine they don't deal with teamers that much since it takes time to check reports and they don't do as much damage. And the damage they do is mainly to solos... they don't really care much for improving that experience.

[restive sinew]

Lmao sure bro, ban the dudes that want to kill you first before killing the other dude

[static zodiac]

Teaming Is cheating

[distant yoke]

what torch skin does collector give

[static zodiac]

Hacking however which I think you meant until I did a Reddit erm actually, is much more harmful arguably than teaming.
But I think all of it should be bans

[restive sinew]

When I said cheating I meant full on hacks and shit like come on.

[static zodiac]

Si senior

[carmine void]

We need fishable fish

[static zodiac]

PLEASE

[carmine void]

🎣

[static zodiac]

I agree with you tho btw

Just being a ass

[carmine void]

🎣

[warm fable]

[static zodiac]

🎣

[warm fable]

[cyan monolith]

i hope they never add fishing and focus on more important things

[warm fable]

me 2

[gaunt oracle]

buff entangling vines

[restive sinew]

[cyan monolith]

also why tf did they add woodcutting im certain 95% of people even forgot thats in the game

[gaunt oracle]

guild shit later, probably

[restive sinew]

New merchant

[static zodiac]

Because it’s gonna have a more meaningful impact for the guild/gathering stuff

[swift coral]

[cyan monolith]

how

[warm fable]

i still haven't finished first woodcutting quest

[static zodiac]

Making your own furniture and such

[gaunt oracle]

we're supposedly getting player housing eventually (TM)

[static zodiac]

Teased it a while back

[delicate ibex]

Three years and counting to make a quiver. How long for housing?

[red scarab]

this game is so dead

[tulip isle]

Sdf loves adding random shit he thought about while on the toilet

Better stock up on logs for guild halls in season 14

[empty halo]

news?

[static zodiac]

adding brick making next, your able to throw bricks at people for 5 dmg

thats all they are used for, and require a long and conoluted process to obtain

[safe nest]

radio silence

[turbid elbow]

over 100 spells/perks/skills inc, source, had a dream

[empty halo]

what

frock you

[static zodiac]

Source? I made it up

[empty halo]

Graysun: rats die = no druid?

[static zodiac]

no they prob just gonna rework

[empty halo]

will they save the game

[turbid elbow]

graysun confirmed they are working on a 3d gathering hall and at some time they'll do player housing. also there will be a q&a soonish announced, that's kinda it

[gilded tusk]

just got the game whats the best beginner class?

[drifting scaffold]

fighter

[gilded tusk]

thank you good sir

[drifting scaffold]

gl bro 👍

[supple drift]

fighter is great for beginner but do not dwell in it too long, make sure you choose subclass rather than staying as fighter.

[gritty ermine]

or barb

both don’t require a lot of skill to succeed

[candid hull]

barb/cleric is good if you wanna speedrun demigod

[clever cloud]

Ive been waiting since like PT3 for quivers. Graysun please say this season is the season

[supple drift]

I dont think they will do that...well. sdf did say about quiver but that responsibility goes to Terrence. He said if the next season didnt, blame Terrence.

idk where did i get that from? was it the last q&a? i dont remember..

[clever cloud]

I think they've been saying quivers are coming in like every QnA ever

[supple drift]

[clever cloud]

They say a lot...

[drifting scaffold]

i see...

quivers are terry's responsibility, right after that progression system

[warm fable]

so much teaming at the end of the season just to get some artifact for 2 weeks till wipe

[clever cloud]

Terry is the new inventory guy confirmed

[low delta]

is the tpm 2.0 and secure boot being required a new feature they just added? i never had this popup before

ik what it i s but did they just add this or have had it for a long time?

[alpine skiff]

Does holy water remove ghost king suck?

[worn rain]

I remember it was required for security updates like anti-cheat etc. I might be wrong on the details, but it's a feature to improve the game. It was added fairly recently.

[carmine void]

🎣

[warm fable]

[carmine void]

🎣

[jovial kettle]

Can we do an event that drops only uniques and artifacts off sub bosses?

[carmine void]

Can we do an event that fills all bodies of water in game with fishable fish?

[worn rain]

Can we do an event that drops new cosmetic quest? If users collect sum 10 million gold coins, we will receive a gold coin-themed torch

[supple drift]

yeah but.. religion for dumping golds...

kinda hurts my feeling..

[warm fable]

what if there was some kind of event when every religion hits max level?
what if all of this gold would be for something?

[static zodiac]

religon rework pls

[carmine void]

I want a golden fish idol for donating so much to the church of Solaris

[worn rain]

Yes, I'd like it to have a more fun gimmick. I like it simple, but I'd like it to have a bit more playfulness.

[warm fable]

what if religion was only available during ssf
all the gold gathered was meant to open trade

[drifting scaffold]

but trade opens

[carmine void]

Solo self fish

[static zodiac]

Religon shouldnt be a gold sink

[drifting scaffold]

yes it should

[carmine void]

Gold sink more like gold stink gold stink more like gold fish

[drifting scaffold]

it's a great gold sink mechanically. 1 part community contribution 1 part selfish rewards

[static zodiac]

to much realism

[drifting scaffold]

shit i got baited

[carmine void]

He chummed the waters and you gobbled it up

[static zodiac]

nah i think its a cool idea but it should be MORE than JUST a gold sink

had to clarify

[agile laurel]

yo whens wipe

[carmine void]

When fish wipe

[supple drift]

I DONT KNOW, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT THE SAME QUESTION~!

IM freaking out! I need ANNOUNCEMENT!@! ASL;DFKJASDFLASKDJ

[carmine void]

Hell yeah wipe hype well have 8k players for a week until they all realize this game doesn’t add content anymore

[agile laurel]

if theres no wipe soon i mite wipe m save file

[worn rain]

Instead of coin chest, How about getting a non-tradable gold coin safe for Religon reward?Maybe it holds 30,000.

[drifting scaffold]

the rich get richer

[agile laurel]

we need a hideout and a gold pile we can save our gold in

[lost plover]

I want it to get a set of religious armor. Each one themed for the season gimick

[swift coral]

^ upgradable gold storage

[drifting scaffold]

30k gold buy a gold pile obj in my hideout and pull it 3x a day

[agile laurel]

yessssir!

[timid jewel]

so whats this arena event gonna be

[static zodiac]

OMG WAIT YOU GUYS ARE COOKING

[worn rain]

Agreed

[supple drift]

The best gold sink is gambling to get artifact weapons. why not?

[drifting scaffold]

"hardcore" so your guess is good as ours. Unique/Artifact? Bosses? Nightmares?

[static zodiac]

I WANT A BIG CRATE WITH BLYTHARS LOGO

[agile laurel]

no cant pull outta it its only storage but that would be sick if we could XDd

[worn rain]

Cool cool cool!!

[timid jewel]

yeesh warlord in arena?

[drifting scaffold]

i want to make the treasure room from the old goblin lobby in my hideout

[jovial kettle]

Ya find 30 enchanted fabrics and warlords broken fang to upgrade and hold 1000 more gold

[swift coral]

guild coffers will be chonky

[drifting scaffold]

pure chaos

[timid jewel]

[drifting scaffold]

safe bet is unique/artifact but we'll have to see

[timid jewel]

get em now b4 they double in price lock in

quadruple even

[warm fable]

@vale oar we are starving for content
🍽️ #graysuns-plate

[lost plover]

🛡️ Hold the Line 🛡️

[slate hawk]

[drifting scaffold]

[warm fable]

seasonal starvation

[worn rain]

[nocturne scarab]

"We said this was our attempt at a cultural crossover"

[granite surge]

[nocturne scarab]

sirs your line is broken

🫸🫷

[broken pagoda]

Why is that an emote, the hands

[warm fable]

your stafff is broken 🧙‍♂️

[magic prairie]

so when is wipe?

[slate hawk]

Thanks Raggy

[woeful elk]

\

[mild nova]

Halfway to religion skin.

[deep musk]

Hold the L

[drifting scaffold]

a whole wipe to learn water map and ppl are somehow dumbfounded by any underwater battle

[elfin ridge]

God. . .I wish this game died. . .amen

[cyan monolith]

rent free

[static zodiac]

[scenic dawn]

if game doesnt wipe soon im wiping this game off my computer

[carmine void]

🎣

🎣

[distant yoke]

what does the timer in religion mean? will mage skeleton be unobtainable once that timer ends?

[mild nova]

each week the religion totals reset

[distant yoke]

so mage still obtainable

[timber orbit]

this was tuff

[supple drift]

still waiting...

[distant yoke]

If there was only a rich kind soul that could slightly help me get the mage

[timber orbit]

yo

i took out a 50 gold loan from the bank and my net worth is -49 gold now. i hope this helps you

[hushed violet]

good morning mr turtle

[mild nova]

it should be until wipe

[slate hawk]

[supple drift]

still waiting..

plus trio is still laggy. makes the fight not fun.

[fierce forge]

is this game dead now?

[warm fable]

@vale oar
Might new game modes appear in Season 8?

[winged citrus]

@proud copper hope you buff druid its really about time it got another buff considering the 10 nerfs back to back.

[drifting scaffold]

gg @supple drift

[supple drift]

[brazen mortar]

[gaunt oracle]

Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Require full [blue/purple/lego] armor+jewelry+1 wep to enter PVP HR (no more squire gear or padding GS with epic staffs)
permaban the following:
Cheaters
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall

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[next mason]

yo arena is at 7PM today right?

[bright adder]

when dwarf skin?

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[little flume]

Nope, tomorrow at that time. no reasom to load the game up until then

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[gaunt oracle]

hi

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[lost plover]

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[supple drift]

Yooo! looks like we are having a rally shout!!

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Let's spam!!!! I WANT ANNOUNCEMENT AHHHHHH!!!!

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:WipeHype: :WipeHype:

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[supple drift]

Welp, me got no nitro..

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eh, im tired. zzz.

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[ashen sonnet]

Hop on arc lil bros, it’s over

[gritty ermine]

BUFF PENGUIN!

[quaint carbon]

buff pengu

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[gritty ermine]

BUFF BEAK PENGUIN DAMAGE!!!

[meager temple]

Wipe is just NOT happening today

[supple drift]

NEVER! Dark and darker FOREVER!

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[meager temple]

you know the game is cooked when the only entertaining youtuber says its cooked

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