The wipe is January 10th and it becomes obvious once you connect the dots. “Right around the corner” isn’t just a phrase, it encodes geometry because a right corner is 90 degrees, and with January being month 1, 9+0+1 collapses into 10. The 🌋 isn’t decoration, it symbolizes eruption, destruction, complete reset — aka a wipe — and volcanic symbolism historically aligns around the 10th. “Happy New Years” missing the apostrophe is intentional; removing ownership means we no longer own time, time owns US, and human existence is literally structured around 10, so the wipe must align with cosmic order: 10. People counted 12 words and cried January 12th, but 12 is a misdirection number symbolizing cycle completion, pointing toward the true New Year reset window — which perfectly centers on 10. “Years” being plural implies endless loops, eternal resets, cursed dungeon cycles just like Dark and Darker, and psychologically January 10 is when New Year motivation dies and suffering begins, which fits the game beautifully. Historically wipes hit painful mid-week chaos slots and January 10 lines up with that ritual of misery. 1/10 forms 110, binary six, culturally tied to misfortune, hardship, and rebirth. Combine geometry, symbolism, psychological collapse, cursed dungeon lore, cosmic alignment, and wipe-pattern logic and every possible reality leads to the same conclusion: January 10th 
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holy fuck can we just ban all the chinese from playing this game
what region makes up the majority of teaming, cheating, and rmting?
Save the Chinese! Ban the Druids!
How do i a redeem the Codes that are posted in Ironmace media
quit the game
Doakes over here
@vale oar this guy needs Winter Detective role
What was he cooking
a very fine soufflé
whens wipe
can we get a vampire race?
quit the game instead of waiting
Like, vampires running?
warlock is already in the game
i started disliking new races
like skeleton mage. is skeleton mage a race in Dungeons and dragons?
🙄
Skeleton Marge

chud
does anyone know how rare thorn sheilds are
i killed like 1 knight and got one off him in norms
Walter white
they’re pretty rare, mostly bc the monster itself is a rare spawn. I think it’s guaranteed from the rare spawn tho
It is one of the rarer ones
I hope we get more rare named monsters it’s really cool
We are going to get a translucent shield soon so, likely!
GUYS where to redeem those promo CODES that are posted in ironmace Media as a video
Can someone smack SDF really hard and unexpectedly on the back of his neck and tell him to open arena for me? Thanks.
really? i got it from just a random knight in a corner of ruins
10th
guys is normal that i cant claim my religion redwards? https://i.postimg.cc/cJ9C3BNF/ping-mu-jie-tu-2026-01-01-203734.png this is what it gives, like the chest is open but i cant claim it, even i reached the goal
It’s a bug that’s been going on for several people
alr going to bug report
I did it. Completed every quest and demigod. I'm done, its over
@static zodiac Where can i now redeem the code from the vault
Shop, in the bottom right ingame
ty
So is it gonna take a few weeks to get this chest from krampus? Won't the wipe happen soon?
Ofc
@vale oar What is the best way to prepare for season 8?
It would be quite humorous to receive a free chest a week before wipe
Nice glass of water
With your favourite meal and a nice glass of water
spam ping devs to make arenas permanent
by quitting the game
how much is a db rn cant find any in trade
Have you guys ever thought about making a Tester team? I feel like that would greatly help the game
how can you tell the difference between it and a regular armor
Please tell us when next patch is coming
The goal is still this month
Who paul lmao
I don't know just yet, apologies
Paul is Paul
Paul is the anticheat guy
They will be pitch black
thank you good to know
No problem
delete water map

Can we have some new content before the game completely dies
Bro sdf wipe your game
Sdf said wipe January . Its January. Still playing games and not communicating clearly/properly?
@vale oar you don't like true damage or no?
I'm personally not a fan of it
Can you tell sdf to remove true dmg please? 😄
Do you think that the classes that need it to work should get reworked then
What you think best thing that can replace it?
Imo bigger pen numbers
and it will make all squishy class get one shot
so, increasing armor pen is not a way.
combine taunt and perfect block
👆
give fighter more playstyles outside of shield, slayer and discount ranger
all i want is fix shield desync.
I want a reason to build high will that isnt just so I can be a worse version of crystal sword platelock
give me cantrips sdf I beg you
anyone know when wipe?
paying someone to do warlord for me!
Pardon me?
Why would you want to play anything other than crystal sword Platelock, I am confused
January, no confirmed date however it is worth noting it’s highly unlikely it’s within the next two weeks
How much
any e girls in this server want to play dark and darker with me
yea sure
Yo is there a new code that gives you a new name plate or is my buddy screwing with me?? and if so where is it
jan 32nd
uhh
i hope its early jan
@cyan monolith answer my dm baby
please dont drag it 3 more weeks sdf im begging
❌
Ive been gone for 40 minutes and I can still see this messager without scrolling
Go into the game, go to shop and at the bottom right, redeem this code
12IW-CN44-TL87-7637
csword platelock is bad
oh piss off cam 
@grand drift
daniel
bro 😭
cinderella kitty
is the season over? why can't I collect the religion rewards?
the gods have forsaken us cleric chat is in ruins
dark and darker dead ?
how has is been, havent played in a while. is iron mace still doing wierd stuff ?
yea they dont wipe .D allready dead game need a wipe and they still waiting .
in holiday i buy a arc raiders to play games cause dnd dosent wipe
yea I also got arc raiders, really good game ^^
Thats not happening no chance
l bot synergy
they are waiting because whats gonna change... nothing lol
they just might have time to code when litigations are finally through. Nexon hurt them as bad as they could which means they took considerable damage
can you no longer claim the religion donation rewards?
just bug
Hello
Could anyone help me migrate my account from blacksmith to steam?
I moved to linux and blacksmith launcher doesn't work with linux but steam does
When is wipe?
hope is lost. they dont give the slightest of fuks about us it seems.
@proud copper why do you allow this @hexed adder to syphon money from your company while providing absolutely 0 value?
unfortunately account transfers aren’t currently possible
you're kidding right?
caan someone help me do warlord? i'll pay you for it!
pretty sure they’re not up atm, if they were you’d open your settings on the blacksmith client, copy a transfer code and paste it upon launching the game on steam for the first time when prompted to. i don’t think transfers are available rn though
When is wipe?
I've sent a support ticket, if that was a thing then they will surely help me out right?
can i still collect my rewards from religion?
Meanwhile I'll try to launch it trough lutris
No update 🙁
fr

prepare for increase
its just awful unplayable at least 2 rats in every single lobby rogues and druids everywhere
dont prepare for an increase sdf ruined this game beyond repair
I saw that there is new campain
Is it good?
is it really that bad?
yes the whole game is the playerbase and sdf himself completely ruined this game
campain


70% of the playerbase is rats
When is wipe?
in 2 or 3 weeks
hopefully never the game just needs to be scrapped and taken off the face of the internet
Get a life dude
u play dark and drker i think u need to get a life
Surely you have something better to do than clown on a game you don’t like
Older players love this game so much they come back just to remind us how much it means to them.
Ya its discord
@timber orbit the fog is coming
@woven light He wants you to think he hates the game but he actually loves it so much he can't let it go 🤣 he literally spends his time in a discord server for a "bad" game. #nolife
Any sane person who doesn't play or like a game would delete it and move on. But DaD has a hold on him clearly
thank you for letting me know, mrrp
what am i looking for in a good bard kit? can somone link me their kit or sometthing?
devs changed the rules for arena with only a weeks worth of warning before bricking most players kits. Leaving only the most loaded and wealthy players able to compete
why the fk do the items look so bad? how you getting worse textures on items
purple ssf
Oh cool my kit garbage anyway.
@vale oar Any idea why the event is giving a chest when wipe will come a few days after it 
When new wipe with ssf pls guys 
XD
When is the wipe?
any mad cats out there can give me some pointers on a bard kit? what am i building for arena?
daaaymn its dead in here
this game needs a road map so people can get some hype. game feels so dead rn lol
this game needs to remove druid and rogue
when is wipe
tbh just remove all the classes lmfao
iono
i like cleric tho 
All classes bard and added after
So glad Iron Mace didn't get nexowned
Arena Hype
Naw Druid makes the game More fun and Immersive
ngl true
especially rat form
same with hide ngl, instant death with 0 counterplay is really fun
druid needs a rework so bad like its either full free or impossible to kill
i love how dead this chat is now. nobody gives a fuck. including sdf
dead game and deserved
Older players love this game so much they come back just to remind us how much it means to them.
players implies they rly played to begin with
you clearly give a fuck
Arena not working?
@hexed adder why is this season still going fkn reset it already
like jesus christ man hurry tf up
WE NEED A LEGACY DARK AND DARKER PRE DRUID AND SORCERER CLASSES
bro lookup "remove rogue" "remove druid" "remove ranger" in the searchbar, cry some more
Ask #warlock s
If you don't have access ask warden
it’s okay monk will be the games first “hero” class
Monk needs perfect block, Parry, Royale release, tumble, double jump, dash..
ur fried kid
rouge just needs to 1 tap headshot coming out of hide
frock it give monk instant transmission
anyone own a CZ457?
do you loose kits in arena
so you click arena right, and then in the bottom left you can read all about it
i aint ingame i was just asking but thanks for nun
Gear can be up to epic and has to be SSF
if you arent in the game when why does it matter
thanks instead of answering like this nice guy @woven widget
He will have all this And more. Can't wait to see how the new character breaks the power limiting mechanics the game naturally has after seeing every new class playing by their own rules
ofc bro i got you :)
erm warden blow up his colon 😊
warden teach ts mf some manners
Q UP ARENA
Its not my fault you asked stupid questions 😊
be friendly please :)
im friendly im just sorry for this guy i dont think hes having a good day
nobody's gonna belive u
i screenshotted it

Buff wizard
buff druid
buff
Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Bring back minimum gear requirements for PVP HR entry
permaban the following:
Cheaters
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall
Why
When is wipe
bro tagged me twice and ignored the edited message 
Oh
my bad
where?
in his edited message
Can't you see deleted messages
dm.
When the fk is this game going to get a major gameplay update .......... its so sad to see this game sink slowly day by day
tbf idk why u were ragebaiting the poor guy he was just asking a simple question
Because people who ask questions that are easy to answer for themselves are annoying
Like 'oh guys how do I get x role' its right at the top where it says channels and roles dude have you checked there yet? maybe you'd find it
Do you lose gear in arena? Idk man maybe check in game where the information has been for over a year now
first time?
i personally find it easier and quicker to just answer than giving some sarcastic reply but to each their own
easier and quicker but I find it funnier when a dude is forced to learn his lesson
Guys is there any quest lines that give you a named item??
no
2026*
2020
wtf?
put sushicat guy back on the mic
hes just talking nothing bad
shouldnt delete stuff in like that takes away from the freedom of speech
wym
wheres the cat guy from 4 seconds ago Krisa
there is no cat guy
they need to get rid of SSF arena, dumbest thing ever
there was NEVER a cat guy
George Orwell has something to say about this
🤫
man why are most warlock players betrayers
quit the game aswell
please wipe the game
did they add muskets to game? I swear I saw someone shooting something like that
its fine if its something they have been doing since the start but to just arbitrarily change it at the end is wild
Exactly, i just want fights lol
sdf is such a loser
just quit the game then
who says i didnt alr
im just here to convince other ppl to quit the game to lower the playercount
lol
so is this a thing?
YES
ok dont yell
bruh XD living under a rock? its not meta but like god
sorry
dark and darker servers kindest member
I just installed the game after 3-4 months break
watch the season trailers xd
no?
it was added with the water map
ic
i can firmly say the best update that they have done in over a year is adding more useable emotes
uninstall it
its not worth playing, games horrible
ur js gonna waste ur time lmfao
thanks for being positive but I will give it some time
i PROMISE if you wanna check out the game, try it out again NEXT wipe
games alright rn, ppl tripping about it. Just not much to do due to it being end of wipe
everyone so poor this season
yeah it's tough, I have 0 gold and everyone is full blue set
we have like 2 weeks left, playercount is at the lowest for a season wipe in the games history, dev is allergic to doing anything useful
not worth playing tbh (japan severs)
yeah just quit, its not worth wasting ur time
chinese, teamers, and cheaters r rampant in all modes
does the dev even talks english?
As if there was anything better
Do not think so
sorry for bad england
the worse every time i run viola zerzki pesti fighter kit i wake up to ban messages every single time
i can name you 100 different games that are equal or less than the cost of DAD that are much better
bruh no
Damn and here i just need 1 if it's good and has infinite play time (pvp)
yeah but they r awful
the 1 dose sdfs English is broken but like he understands for the most part
name any similar to dark and darker
He can definitely hear it but probably cannot speak it very well
like nothing
any other extraction game
You know that doesn't exist
yeah no
dark and darkers a extraction game
Lul
if ur iq is 50
You cannot say that tarkov, forever winter, arc raiders, grayzone, etc are anything similar to dark and darker
they all have the same core concept. idk what ur going on about
Still waiting for a single idea here man its been 5 min
if you want a super specific niche genre of fantasy hardcore pvpve melee extraction dungeon crawler
go play the mobile dark and darker
atleast its playable
bruh dark and darker is not even in the same realm anymore as those games ur kit matters so much more then those games
Ok how about something simpler, what do you play right now mainly? @open trail
yep im going adventure mode i cant kill anyone with full grey eq xD
One is a fantasy game with classes and a dungeon delving adventure focus whilst the others are hardcore shooter games, idk what your going on about
No lol
Perhaps hardcore adventure mode 
thats like saying that tf2 and cod are the same game lmfao
is this a joke u need a carry
What’s the player count right now?
I have no gold
like 4k, its garbo rn
Dude can't even tell me his favorite game sooooo
tarkov is a hardcore extraction shooter (as basic as u can get)
forever winter is a tactical horror shooter
And my favorite game is
arc raiders is a 3rd person futuristic shooter
All we need is consistent updates.
all we need is gobby merchant back
different words for tarkob
anyhow point being they all have their own identity, they are not the same as dark and darker or eachother
Ok he is hardcore gatekeeping his favorite game is it candy crush!?
tarkov has raids with timers, a focus on pvpve
greyzone has a massive open world map, with focused missions, and not too harsh consequences when you die
they are VERY different. greyzone also has less loot and more bullets
exactly my point
my CURRENT favorite game or all time
90% of grayzone is walking around in grass and getting shot by bad AI
its a openworld game
and that game is going to die quicker than DAD
Anyhow the point is, they are not like dark and darker, if you can game any Fantasy extraction game out right now that fills the niche and is better than
the big diff are the ttk and one has technical gun play the other doesn't really
We can talk about it.
I think chroma tower is a GREAT contender but it’s not out
Omg a reply. Why not both? If not the relevant one please ( current )
i mean, midnight walkers is so much better than dad
terrarias my current favorite, all time is smth like
There’s 1, where’s the other 99?
scp secret lab
My brother is always trying to get me to play terraria
ok now i think ur smoking some crank like sdf has made bad changes but like midnight walkers only has cool map design
Even then, that’s not a fantasy extraction game
i said 100 games that cost less or equal that are better, i didnt say the same genre
You can say that about any game
not really
Absolutely, because it’s purely subjective
every single game on the steam store atleast has a better dev team than sdf
If a games not for you, that’s alright.
Well what about riot games?
riot games are better devs
id rather cast a fucking ritual to make my dead grandparents alive again
just to have them be the dev team for a game, over choosing sdf and ironmaces dev team
The same dev team with horrible toxic work culture allegations by the way.
yeah and they are STILL a better dev team btw
Um
Why do you spend so much time in this discord if the game makes you so angry and unhappy
That’s my point exactly
tells u something
Because he loves it
cuz i convince other ppl to quit LOL
Why spend so time in a server, rotting away to doom on a game you don’t even like (allegedly)
So you're doing it on purpose, good to know
Get a hobby?
Chyunkus spitting facts
ive gotten a few ppl to quit and thats good enough for me
A true Redeemer
Doubt it
Well I hope he finds a new community that makes him happier 
🤷

he L
How large is the corner...
Even chyunkus don’t know, we are so cooked bro 🙏 😭
Whoever decided to put the bug room from goblin caves into arena rotation, I hope the next time you flip your pillow to the cool side, ITS WARM TOO!
The problem with big corners is you can't see what they're hiding 
This man needs his knight role @vale oar
yeah, let me earn it
Which reminds me I need to give the previous bunch their role
You know a circles all corners, volcanos are a big circle, the corner is a circle that’s why when you look for a corner it’s a
Loop
i lost a arena game and my hat just vanished
why
Chyunkus thought it would look better on him I suppose
You will earn that discord role and you will like it
my fucking hat
why did u bring not found it raid loot in arena?
ive had it for 3 weeks and ive lost many games with it
In all seriousness it probably wasn’t ssf, be it because it came from another character, or such
every piece of gear (except non-instrument utility items) has to say "Found by [that character]" or "Crafted by [that character]"
items from marketplace, vendors, quest rewards, or found/crafted by other characters on the same account are NOT safe in an arena loss. they will 'poof'
It went wherever dess went
i know how the game works but that was minted by me
rip
I've had it happen ONE time where I lost a cloak that I was 100% positive I minted, ran in arena several times etc... it may have been a freak bug
I’ve lost a single grim smile the same way
it wasnt a super good hat but it was still my hat and its just gone
Found your hat bago
just buy some ore and craft a new one
ofc i could do that but thats not the problem
If you can try to clip it, or have a clipping software so you can catch if it happens again that would help a lot
i did but i didnt look at my cap sadly
remember exactly what u did difrently that led to u loosing ur hat
im just gonna craft a new one
Whatever kit you have now, have a video stored on your pc of every piece in that kit
sooooo... were the religion rewards cut off early?
the fact that i need to do that is sad in its self
Apparently
got pickpocketed by the arena rogue
Agreed, there was a bug for a time where you would just lose gold upon entering a dungeon
its a bug. when religion gets cut off, you wont be able to donate and the weekly dono leaderboard countdown will finish
Like not the 100 hr fee, like hundreds to thousands
If they make another update before wipe (which should’ve been today /:)
That should hopefully fix it unless it’s intentional
i literally just got to the final reward. what're the odds its fixed and i get my skin lol
I don't think it's intentional
give me my hat
I've heard nothing to suggest it is
pretty good. we should see another patch to start the end of season countdown, so they might bugfix it in that
Likely.
Take a photo, send to Ironmace support.
They are likely to give you answers
They have given me insight on bugs that you would not find from this chat
MAKE ARENA ACCOUNT WIDE LIKE IT USED TO BE!@!@!@!@!@
ive seen several complaints about players unable to redeem religion rewards. hopefully some sent bug reports
It is impossible that the devs have not seen the bug at this point
there was never an account wide arena
buff frost breath
LOL YES THERE WAS YA NINCOMPOOP
Nuh uh
NOOBS PROB PLAYED LAST MONTH
I want help , i want someone to kill spectral for a quest.
There have only ever been two kinds of Arena: one where items required no mint, and one where it required a found or crafted by mint
never account wide
is it worth grinding ap rn
If you want the rewards
Nuh uh
Can mystical gems be taken out fo the dungeon i just ot one and i egt out of the game and i dont have it anymore
did i get pickpoketed
Not anymore, no
Then perhaps you could answer your own question.
dang
They are more likely to drop, but in balance they must be used in-dungeon
i havent played in a hot minute and i couldve gotten pickpocketed idk lmao
when is wipe?
Planned for this month
early this month or late?
Within the 30 days
i hope they make it so u can take keys and shit back out of the raid again
is the game worth getting back into i have over 1k hrs
bro wants one of the only good changes reverted 😭
lotta douchey douches unfort dad houses a lot of them
Praying they dont
Alot of people ask this question and nobody answers bc we dont know the reasons you quit so we can't really say if you should pick it back up. Is there anything specific that you were waiting for them to change or?
i just wonder if there are people in hr im on west
people said theres only 1 person in every hr west
Even on ice I see multiple teams so they are full of shit
i only play solos
Solos died when they took it out of the game and most the solo players left before they brought it back
ok
You'll run into mainly rogues and druids on solos now days if you see anyone
ty
Np
Lie btw
Solos has never been the same coming from a solo player
Why even humor the coddle
Solos is the exact same its always been
They don't farm bosses. As a west player I have to go east after a certain time to avoid a certain mafia of a certain country where you can not make money easily and may or may not have a good delivery driver strike at the moment
Lol
solos has never existed
*after druid entered the chat
after number 2 son unless you have a badai
soon
Bidet
If you have a bidet do you keep toilet paper just in case the water doesnt work at the time or do you just not wipe

why is this whole channel constantly getting deleted
Oppression
gotta keep it more tavernly in the tavern, ya feel?
Wipe with no water map would go so hard
na keep water map for those who want water map, but dont force us to play water map for quests for no reason at all
game is dead af and no wipe is insane
wipe is this month
You can buy a lot of the slop on market
yeuh but some things need to be in 'looted' state
yeah tru, ice map isnt too bad once you learn the pve and layout tho
water map is just annoying
Any one remember if throwing axes/knives scale with hit location?
very simple that the game has 3k players and the game is fucking dying
like distance away from throw or place it hits on person?
not distannce, like headshot or body
most likely affects damage 🤷♂️
everything else does
fair i suppose, each to their own
Some
meaning... you need to go to water map
half that, only counts how many people are in dungeon
Better get them swim trunks on
☹️
WHen is next QA ?
whenever they decide to hire someone capable of putting one on and don't end up firing them & someone who doesn't get banned from the game a week after putting a QnA on
IM and their QA luck is peak
The snowy ruins nameplate looks good with my veteran arena rating (1801). Thats why I'm not climbing, no other reason...
who got banend now rofl
the last guy who put on a QnA, SirRodion, was banned for a lil bit very shortly after the last qna
Said there would be another all that time back then and another never happened
rofl funny asf
who tf is that lol
a streamer who compiled these qna questions
guess the follow up qna wont be happening lol
DM ME IF U NEED HELP WITH BOSSES
WIPE ITS !!
Probably not a big loss tbh, its always "we're planning to do this and that"
yea, although at the time, there were some things that I felt at the time needed a follow up, maybe more pressure on specific issues being pointed out and addressed.
That qna was more an introductory 'get to know you' type thing, I feel like there would have been good opportunity to ask relevant questions that had not at the time been answered.
I'm hard pressed to remember what those things are now, but I do remember feeling at the time, it was an opportunity to get some real questions through, as compared to the qna's from people such as onepeg, in which questions are clearly brought forward with the intention of not souring the relationship between the interviewer and IM.
Seemed like a better opportunity to get real questions and answers, pushed ahead of time, instead of being an on the spot ambush.
a missed one.
No point in em doing another QnA in the same way they have always done it, will be same shit as you say "we're planning for x and y"
Probably why they don't, beyond this and that they have not much except yapping about nothing
yeah entirely possible, but that is why i was keen for that follow up QnA.
A good question can lead to interesting answers, just so happens we're used to the leading interviewers asking dogwater questions
& even when they do ask the questions the community are asking, they cant follow up on it or push the point further to IM because they dont understand why the community is asking.
gingivitis
Problem is their egos are so fragile they probably don't want to be interviewed by anyone with actual balls
I don't know if I subscribe to that entirely, maybe people think that is the case, so they emulate it, resulting in a negative feedback loop
Vindaloop?
I've never been ego'd by em, and I've put the pressure on them a few times, pushed points going against the grain countless times
idk if its really that simple, but if people operate under the pretense that it's how you get forward with them, then maybe people will just do it without them even asking
facts bro
Bring back goblin merchant. Collect all gold from gear buy backs and put it into a pool and give it away via some sort of tournament or something
+people who join oce to farm gold
yup
Where are your videos or interview vods?
every region hops to OCE to farm, anyone seriously farming for a streamer will be doing it in OCE
I've spoken personally to these people. asked questions that have been answered, instead of just making an assumption that they'd ego me if i tried
i think the whole 'ego theory' is just some shit that people say to justify to themselves why their shit suggestions got ignored
I personally think IM is more uncaring than egotistical, which could be worse lol, i just dont see the ego
that would be cool
any1 know how to make discord overlay wrk on this game?
can anyone explain why theres red flashing lights on my screen in the lobby
bad graphics driver idk
no like there flashing in random spots
still could be the drivers, but idk this the first ive seen of the issue
brother, im not doubting that its not ur drivers, but saying "its only in this game" doesn't immediately rule out drivers
its showing in my friends game aswell tho
Theres an invis rogue with a laser pointer
???
IM ingregnanted me
Wipe end in 5 days?
eventuallly
Current Season Timer --:--:--:--
no official date set yet
"next season, scheduled for January" #📢announcements message
Soon(TM)
Is it just me, or is the game running way worse since the "performance" updates?
idk i got flashing red spots in the lobby for me atm
Shipyard runs way better than it used to, but getting weird random stutters in gob caves and ruins specifically.
Yeah, it's the stutters for me.
Or more like freezing. My computer might just be getting old, but it was running fine before those updates.
guys, is monk in the game yet?
no 
if anyone got any cockatrice eggs you can send them my way, i will grade them then send them back and totally not add them to my collection
Anyone willing to trade a stingray egg for 8 full chests?
leaver penalty for leaving after a arena match is over is insane
is it at all possible to transfer blacksmith to steam
my friends did it yesterday but its not giving me an option
Just wait the extra like 15 seconds its takes for the score screen to come up
ayeaye capn 
Migrating from Blacksmith to Steam is currently only available to a limited number of users.
Check this link:
https://www.darkanddarker.com/support/search/33948096999828

i miss home..
New season is just around the corner
Corner: 7
will it be open again for everyone?
Currently, only link cases are allowed to migrate. I don't know what the future holds, sorry.
anyone down to let me get some bone powder i dont have 7k
I dont
check krampus shop every 30 mins, you'll get it in a day offered
🌋
Plate drop? Uh yeah make sure to wear shoes after
wait fr cuz rn i see cyclops rags
ye fr got one earlier
Das exactly why we not getting one
@last hornet I have made numerous reports ingame and through the website. My uploaded evidence gets 0 views and the people reported to do not get banned. I was told you were the person to speak to.
These two people were teaming in HR goblin solos.
impawsomelolz420
Kebabci
Skytea is the report guy?
Also can you dm me the evidence
yep they do be teaming from the video confirmed. next time report em for teaming rather than cheating, idk if it'll help in the "reporting" chain...but ye druid barb teaming on a bard is just sad
BRUH I NEED 27 COINS GG no bone powder for me lmao
this games azz
tell me char name and come trade bro or dm me it
brainless devs killed their game lul
Why don't you simplify things
And change every warden/dev nickname on discord to
Inventory guy
Balance guy
Report guy
Anticheat guy
The Vision guy
Riddle guy
...
hey so ive donated to my god and i cant collect my rewards for the last two
is this a thing or
#sdfs-kitchen kinda silent on the S8 vision ngl
They'd have to show how many people are working on what, people will lose it when they find out most of devs work on cosmetics
W cosmetics devs, the fire season ones will be lit for sure
fiyah
maybe they got a cool mechanic next season; mobs in some modules become engulfed by flames, and they can drop some special stones; the stones are used to imbue your weapon for the duration of the game; for sure it wont be just fiyah cosmetics
flame on!
The Arena chnges have made finding a game very long ......
12 mins , no match , the fk
i think there is bug with perk antimagic on warlock
i aint getting a single percent out of it in game and in lobby
or i am tweaking
it doesn't show on your stats, but it definitely works
i think it's 25% after every other calculations are already made
so technically stronger than if it was just a flat +25% but i could be wrong
not running antimagic on warlock would be equivalent to not running perseverance on cleric, sure u can but why would you ever
whats a good action speedd to aim for as rogue? 25% koo?
run 30%+ with highish STR
i have the same rogue kit from before i took my break and i believe it’s around 36% AS with 30ish STR
high DMG output coupled with enough action speed to triple poke with weapon and double jump away into the night
#graysuns-plate @hexed adder ? 
jianchai999, blatat cheater in solo HR crypts rn
When is wipe
Soon should be only like 1 or 2 more patches til wipe. Like 2-3 week
when hotfix, sdf kitchen message, and wipe announcement?
I predict it will be Jan. 7-8
is sorc good in duos ?
It can be viable yes
sorc has great aoe spells
you guys didnt answer his question
i think richard did
im just trying to banter, SpongeBob would get it, i said kinda the same thinga few days ago as richard and sponge said i didint answer his question
my uncles name was richard 🥲
🤣 great callback thank you for catching me up
so would it be good in duo
.
🧾
dont really get it no
can u answer it
i mean yeah its good, just have to know what works and what doesnt and how to play that build against other builds
well you see its like yes
?
Anyone else unable to claim religion rewards?
yeah its a bug rn
Yep
still no wioe disgusting plans
Restrict use of red portals somehow (pull a lever, countdown to go down, require a buff from a nearby shrine.. SOMETHING)
Bring back minimum gear requirements for PVP HR entry
permaban the following:
Cheaters
RMTers (Sellers AND buyers)
Repeat-offenders of teaming
Those annoying bots that spam in the gathering hall
No.. just give us more content. We are going lose this game if they don’t pump out some more content
Last 3 content drops didn't save the game, what makes you think the next one will?
Sorc, Druid, Water Map... all things people say ruined the game
No I mean we need new classes and or maps every 3 months
All of them shit
No maps no classes just add a bunch of stuff to old classes, add skill trees that were teased since pts etc
Would love to see the skill tree they teased yeah
We don't need classes or maps, most people don't play the new class so it's an update that does nothing for most players, and maps just add more queues and crypts is already the perfect map
Like almost no one plays sorc, so them adding sorc effectively did nothing for most players except add another class that id annoying af
We went back up to 20k with the new map. If they were to consistently drop new maps or whatever we would be at 2-3k player count
We went back to 20 cause new wipe and ssf
I’m a sorc main and the only reason no one plays it is cuz they nerfed it into the ground
we were at those numbers and more start of every wipe
No lol it was definitely because the big ass water map
Game just gets stale 1-2 months into a wipe cause no real progression or long-term goal
the new map was (and still is) hated by almost everyone from day 1
Sure but the big content drop was the reason for the spike in numbers like wtf are yall on about WE NEED MORE CONTENT
personally, I love it... but try spreading THAT message and see how many friends you make
Sure content that fits the game and enhances it
Watermap ended up.just being a gold farmer map
Buff and nerfs is what we need every month nothing else
lol
Every week
Axe Mastery 3-5? sure
Game was a lot more fun when they made a lot of changes weekly and meta wasn't stale
thats worked well in the past
No the reason for the spike in numbers is the fact it's a new wipe lol like since when have you been playing?
if by "fun" you mean, having your kits nerfed twice a month because of rebalancing random rolls, or having to switch mains because your playstyle was nerfed to the dirt
Every new wipe we get a huge spike obviously cause that's how wipe based games work and then it slowly declines
dont encourage SDF to go back to whiplash balance changes, that was the worst
yes that was a lot more fun
just like actually doing something
woah… meta shifts when things change 🤯
hey if thats fun to you, you can simply vendor your kits whenever you feel like. you don't need SDF to tell you to
we’re about to get new perks and skills dw meta will shift
Instead we've had solo completely druid dominated all wipe for example
not rly lol go check that leaderboard from early weeks
Zero changes or shifts it's just a zoo
last 6+ weeks are
The only real change was nerfing my sorc to the ground 🙁
yea nobody cares to play other classes when they can farm free with Druid
And it got worse each week cuz people adhere to "if you can't beat them join them" and just all play the most broken class
go die in HR solo and spectate - 5 druids and 1 fighter
it's been this way and slowly getting worse for almost two months that's what I mean
Noone likes it but they don't do anything, back then with big weekly balance changes at least you didn't get a meta this stale
personally that’s fair to me but a lot of ppl out here complain about that exact thing lol
Anyone remember when they said the next season will start?
january
Gm bud 🫂
gm 🫂 gonna be a great day
did Graysun ever give a further update about when the wipe is this month
.
I farm druids everyday as wizard
You cant judge how is game balance when game is so dead, wizard is insanely broken and nobody plays it in solo
can you add in the game crouch jump for the boss.



thats cool and all but look at solo leaderboard and tell me this looks healthy
the game has like 9 different classes btw
its taken til like week 10 for it to even be imbalanced. i think you got the correlation mixed up here
it just took ppl a while to realize its still broken after "nerfs"
or idk what youre trying to say, druid has been dominating solo for 2 months now
again it's not that broken. its barely been 1 month
ur just exaggerating bc u cant play around it i get it
I do play around it by not playing solos, most boring mode anyway
You cant balance solos, some people play druid just because you choose when to commit fights and when to die
but its ridiculously broken there, you literally cant die to 80% of classes
duh? it's like one of the main parts of the class
so whats your point if youre agreeing its broken
Im not saying that its broken but if its, you cant nerf a class thats not even good in trios
no i'm saying one of the main features of the class being to choose ur encounter
Imo i would remove rat and chicken first of all
agree, fuck solo balancing, but the class makes solos unenjoyable for the majority of the playerbase just remove it
it's good in solos and very popular in solos for that reason, and chinese players have adopted it fully lol they're farming like mad
has brought nothing good since it got added, horrible design
yea just say remove druid next time. dont need all these extra steps
Hey when is the new season?
the fact rat form is still basically unchanged since it got added is ridiculous. just making your hitbox 100x smaller in a game like this and ignoring doors is so stupid
no set date, all we know is it should be this month if it goes to plan
"next season, scheduled for January" #📢announcements message
Yea i agree, also bugging the map and abusing that as chicken is so toxic for the game
Same with sorcerer dash and levitate
Top recommendations:
have gear brackets ( people don’t like fighting those with huge gear disparity)
0-124
125-224 - HR
225 + - HR
Add in-game ping feature, ping chests, items, enemy players , doorways (helpful for ingame communication + locating objects / mobs)
Remove circle
You cant afford gear brackets anymore just forget it
If you dont like gear disparity stick to s2r i guess
we traded gear brackets for modes basically. s2r is the old -24gs. norms is 0-124, and HR SHOULD HAVE BEEN "124+" (set some kind of minimum gear requirement... all armor/jewelry slots + 1 wep must be at least purple or smth). instead HR is mostly just squire rats and barely geared AP farmers
I am coming back to the game but I hear it's dead af is this true?
It’s end of wipe rn
until players are forced or heavily incentivized to bring gear into HR, the mode is going to struggle
cheers
Wiping this month though
so kinda perfect get back in flow for the wipe and make bank on start again
yup
My biggest strife with Hr is the circle lol
learn bladehand while he's still easy. people still hate water map, its gona be farm paradise on wipe day (except stingray)
stingray will be contested af
And also the fact that the game timer is like 15 minutes, if you get a key you can’t even use it half the time
O.o
its 20 mins for crypts and hell, I'm quite sure of that, it was extended some time ago
How many dB is Leviathan?
If you can't use key in 20min match:
(u->i) @crimson widget
i wonder what that could mean
im giving away some stuff for cristmas if you need some gold meet me on trading post i am TURBIOYMASTURBIO
kumas claw haw db
game is dead

Imagine winning the case and still letting your game die
they need 2 weeks to make arena event that lasts for 3 days?
Are religion rewards bugged?
I was just about to ask when the new wipe was starting
Finally learned spectral knight after the games dies lol
no one playing arenas right now?
Nope.
jus wondering for arena is ity only in raid and crafted gear?????
found gear and crafted is allowed
so if i buy gear off web will i lose if won still?
quest item indicator = best dev work of 2025, ggs IM
it goes away if u die
not since they had the dumb idea to revert it back to self found/crafted
ty
its because if you are solo, you have to match with either two other solos or a duo team who is not on the class you are playing so its difficult but if you have a trio you find arena games quicker
I'm in a duo
LOl we in q for 10 min now.
ROGUE ROGUE ROGUE DRUID DRUID ROGUE DRUID ROGUE
exciting balance, keep not changing it! ambush is very thrilling to fight against!
Welcome to dark and darker
yea hide is so fun to play against also love to play against cutthroat
are the map of arena gonna change? or we have to play ridiculous pve for month
how much affinity do u need to receive good mobs?
they'll change next season for sure, think the logical next step is to add hr warlord room into arena pool
oh so wee keep that sh**t till next season damn
yea its kinda stupid having to fight 2 minibosses
its full for archer like this is just becoming non fun to play at all
sadly they still killing game
like how can they think people would love to have pve into arena LOL
What is the best neck peice for bard arena?
frost amulet ppbly
arena is dead mate just wait next wipe
Is there a crafteble one?
yes, Fangs of death necklece, alchemist
ight
Why do some of my items only have a looted status and not the additional found by player at the bottom?
i believe this happens to items that are submitted to the expressman, to be minted for whatever reason you have to escape with the item literally in your inventory
the reason is that you can kill an enemy and put his gear at express man, if it became looted by your char in expressman that would be a booboo
no expressman gear to arena lol they are so dumb
@vale oar can you check my dms really quick please
that is quite literally dumb
If I bring in the gear to extract with can I get it to say looted by me or will it just become handled?
Let's keep it respectful towards other people, folks 😉
XD
its just fatality my friend i would love to give some respect but actually its getting worse and worse
I think it's because technically the Expressman extracted it for you, and thus you purchased it?
I agree that it should still count but oh well...
It is not like that for quest items tho
Where lava floor teaser
Touching arena was the mistake they made lol
the choices ..
only items found in the dungeon by natural means and taken out can be considered looted
yeah so bad
they had 100 ything to do but no they ruin arena xD
as we need something else then LEG no ssf no pve
I love the VOID mechanic, W design, W voided
Please change arena Map rotation hear us omfg
is the economy stil dead like troll pelt less then 2k
that's 700 buddy
xD
Dead game
Dudes really speak to speak huh
yeah keep them for the newt wipe xD
whats coming next season


if i saw a shooting star, id wish that this game was not shit
too much pressure on that rock, it will become a diamond
for real. elon musk would fly to it just to mine it for a few more billion dollars
looks like i cant share a clip of me getting flung HALF FUCKING WAY ACROSS THE MAP by a fucking harpy in ice abyss HR. losing like 10k worth of shit
i feel in some god forsaken gap between two rooms
i thinks its a unnstall
arena water map modules, for science, 100% gonna happen
ffs
Bigger maps
Classes content
i think they sit around the table and come up with ways to get more people to not play this game
Arena if full dead just all go uninstall till they give it back LEG no ssf into PVP map and no boss or some dumb choices
How to give fun and take it back 101
how to kill ur game 101
How do i refresh my crafting?
u can only do 3 at once
yeah and when do they come back?
I removed this bad joke 
u have to wait
how long?
dunno at least its ridiculous xD
u will see there's a lot of comic choices they made like this
like expressman + rewards doesn't count as SSf xD
like u opens the spawn door and face a wraith into arena mode
like the fukin BLOOD PLATFORM as map into the new rotation man this is insane xD
Buff wizard
genuine
issue
Is it true that if I transfer a named item to someone and create a character with the same name, they can use that item in Arena forever?
Lucky, how much she charge for that?
10k it would seem
O f ja
That's some dark magic
You'd have to delete whatever character you found it on
When does season end?
Is the game worth playing now haven’t played in 6 months
dont bother
all solo queued. 3 melee vs 3 ranged in arena. you devs are absolute garb
Hmm damn was hoping it would have changed, sdf stil flip flopping?
Actual trash. zero integrity if you work for this scummy company
dawg wadda
what a wholesome thing. im in a squire game with a russian dad and son it sounds like
matching pdr fighter builds
deserved tbh
arena is a garbagool gamemode that they should just scrap.
so next wipe will be soon?
does gear recovery work in high roller adventure mode?
still no wipe this vision is die .
nop, only normal adventure mode
sweet lol. just wanted to make sure before i go practicing boss fights in my bis lol
maybe in another year or so when they hire the one guy to go buy assests off the shop
Sorc op
Do you honestly do what you're told?
Always
Good Boy 🐕
Where’s my scooby snack
🍪
kinda hey shi
Hi, what's the best map for farming gold in Frame?
big fan of ruins just by merit of being three layers. Inferno loot is awesome
In frame?
Ruins has the advantage that each time you go down a floor, you get +100 ap iirc.
However if you're just after gold, there are easy gold piles in Ice Mountains and Maelstrom
that was changed to 10 like 2 seasons ago
XD
Do we know when wipe is?
Incorrect, at least in HR adventure. Went down to crypts and barely got more than if I'd just looted the graveyard
I thought they changed the AP gain for going red from flat +100 to a %-based modifier for each red taken?
wasn't it like 1.2x AP per floor?
what are mystical gems going for?
can't be sold. you have to use them in the dungeon you find them in. same with all the special keys (old rusty, golden, skull, frozen, captains)\
if you extract one, it disappears
how much is catice worth in gold right now ?
boys?
how much is catice worth in gold right now ?
latest I see on collector's guild going for about 3 Deathblooms.. gimme a sec for gold conversion
I'll give u 3 gold for it
Bro this wipe has legit been out for more than three months where new one
2 weeks
Planned for this month
If i cant have dark and darker stimming soon I might soy freakout
One Catice is 3 DB. One DB is 3 full chests. One full chest is about 28k.
One Catice is 252,000 gold
maybe arc raiders can help you a bit longer
wow, so expensive
hes nutty
np
how much fullgor?
join Collector's Guild Dark and darker discord. I think it will tell you the price on artifacts
What is DB ?
Nah I think players should prepare lots of foods that can calm ones mind. So they can be prepared for lots of balance and fix patches after the wipe.
im giving away some stuff for christmas if you need some gold meet me on trading post i am TURBIOYMASTURBIO
Current player count??
8k
death bloom
80k
you cannot make up how incompetent these devs are bro
im giving away some stuff for christmas if you need some gold meet me on trading post i am TURBIOYMASTURBIO
Where stats page
Watch out this is a scam that uses a bug to steal your gold
hahahaha of course
when does it wipe?
jan 32nd
Fair well adventures, after years of holding the line my arm is weary. Hope this game endures and thrives in the future. Happy new year gamers, goodbye and good luck.
❓
bros coming straight back after wipe
they all do
hmm.. i think it's safe to say that next wipe wont be that exciting because no mods are saying something exciting 🙁
Enjoy the 125 gold man
bros leak baiting
i give away over 20k gold and over 30k on gear already
trade me TURBIOYMASTRUBIO for yur christmas gold or gear
i dont gonna be much more around
Watch out this guy is scamming, steals your gold with a bug.
how lol
its true he stole my gold
Idk but I lost all the gold I had after trading
he just took my viola and chest and arena kit and coin bags wut the frick
Crazy stealing gold right before wipe
well yeah it costs 15 gold to trade
he took 200 fame from my character sheets mods warden help
last 5 minutes for giving away stuff and illgo
15 not 125
See, forcing a sense of urgency for more victims
lmfao im its for people dont waste theyr time lookingfor me
did the devs do a recent qna on someones stream ?
i know sobadstrange was going to do a qna but idk when it was
they should let me do a qna
or if it even happened yet
Is there a way to report trading post scammers?
nope
Do you not get anything from religion for the rest of the season? (even though you can still donate)
Oh nvm I see everyon is saying it's bugged
Something exciting...? Hm...
Puppies
DOGS ARE COOL
(I know nothing about next wipe lmao)
they are added a new crate in bandit forest