the-tavern

[fallen crypt]

everything is ruined

[floral steeple]

zuffy was talking sm about you

🥴

[sonic cave]

It's been a bit since I've seen the doc, so I could be misremembering the exact number for the "special" room drops (non-boss).

3% - Ghost King
1.5% - Lich, Warlord, Wyvern, Skull Key room, (Stingray?)
0.75% - Gold Key room, Mystical Gem room, (GC double-boss room?) (Frozen Key room?)

[sweet tinsel]

What is my favourite ded game doing

[severe void]

When is wipe?

[mystic egret]

Will it be new arenas in new Arena season?

[shrewd anvil]

hey, where can i find the prices of named items? i found one "Abyssal Trident with 2 weapon dmg and 1,9 physical damage bonus

[sonic cave]

No announcement yet. Probably middle January if I had to guess.

[sonic cave]

There's no set location. Especially for extremely rare artifacts. There might still be some high end Collector's discord out there somewhere. I know the main one ran into issues and isn't used anymore to my understanding.

Your particular item is really hard to price. It's sort of worth what you want for it.

Many, many full chests. The exact number is based on however long you're willing to wait for someone to bid.

[shrewd anvil]

we hope to sell it for a good amount so we can enjoy the rest of the season without thinking so much about gold:D

[sonic cave]

I would suggest working with your buddy to come up with a figure of how much that would be. Pick the lowest amount of gold that you feel would be enough for you two to not worry about gold anymore for 4-6 weeks. And then price it as that.

[shrewd anvil]

thank you!

[heavy laurel]

EU Servers down ??

[sonic cave]

I'd estimate a really, really lowball (like sell it instantly, multiple people spamming you to trade, DMs offering to buy it for more, etc etc) would be in the ~10 full chest range. I wouldn't sell it for that, but just to give you an idea of what an "insulting" low offer would be. Don't sell it for less than that.

[latent iron]

is fangs of death necklace the last craftable one i can make with the alchemist

[fringe jungle]

Wipe when guys?

[sonic cave]

We don't know. My guess is mid January.

[fringe jungle]

thank you

[pulsar lantern]

Catice!

[shrewd anvil]

wait u think 10 full chest is a low ball offer?:o

[latent iron]

what can i craft with max rep from alchemist

[sonic cave]

For a +2 weapon damage Abyssal Trident this far into wipe? Yeah, I think that would be a low ball / sell-it-now price.

It's wonky though, because the item is worth so much that there aren't many people who can realistically afford it. So your buyer pool is limited to a handful of extreme RMT whales. If you find one of them and they really want the item, it's rare enough at +2 weapon damage to be worth an absurd amount.

But if you want to broaden your buyer pool a bit by setting the price lower, you totally can. That's what I mean when I said it's up to you. Just I wouldn't go lower than somewhere in the 10 full range.

[shrewd anvil]

oh damn.. i thought 2chest 2 db was a crazy good offer 😄

[shrewd anvil]

thank you very much for your information!

[sonic cave]

To be clear, it's all speculation haha. Extremely rare item + late in wipe (gold devalues, rare items spike in value). It's just a very hard item to price. Best of luck to you and your buddy.

[gilded comet]

CAN YOU FIX BARD SONGS ALREADY SO IT STOPED NOT ACTIVATING AFTER PLAYIGN THE ENTIRE SONG

[crisp bobcat]

Okay whoever was saying about exploiter issue was right

Unfortunately, i happen to find 2 exploiters with ESP atleast and lost 2 blue gear sets to them, cleric (lvl91) and sorcerer (lvl131)

[pulsar lantern]

GG i was the lvl 91 cleric

[tiny arrow]

rep cheater

how to do that

[drifting scaffold]

cheating in normals? uhhhh

[tiny arrow]

i even got the id

[crisp bobcat]

Later i got killed by sorcerer that aimed with his fireblast at me while i was in invis waiting in graveyard

[tiny arrow]

and game reply

[drifting scaffold]

Esc -> SUPPORT

[crisp bobcat]

Thanks

[tiny arrow]

i rep it in game already

[exotic seal]

Gm bud 🫂

[tiny arrow]

just curious if can rep in dc

[drifting scaffold]

gm 🫂

[pulsar lantern]

that was also me,sorryu

[drifting scaffold]

no they moved it to the website for extra reports, Esc -> SUPPORT brings u to that site

[tiny arrow]

got ya thx

[crisp bobcat]

I fucking hate you

[pulsar lantern]

😔 💔

[crisp bobcat]

I wasted all my gold on these kits

And grinding is boring in this game

[pulsar lantern]

i sold them to the vendor for a net profit of 300 gold

leathersmith is UP ⬆️

[crisp bobcat]

Now i hate you even more

Also i cant believe ive met the same guy in 2 dungeons straight up while taking my time to gear up again, shows how pathetic the situation of the game is

[drifting scaffold]

squires is where its @

[magic prairie]

lmao the lobbies are dead game on life support, and they think they got time for another 5 month wipe can't remember the last time the game had 10k players on.

[hardy raft]

It makes it harder and harder to rmt I guess

[crisp bobcat]

And every game i play i met a fucking tryhards that sweat like theyre inside of this game

And theyre not just fighting for their life, theyre looking onto mine...

[hardy raft]

Well game is dead so ofc there's only tryhards left

[crisp bobcat]

Shouldve thought of that....

Okay ive met exploiter again

[hardy raft]

Explain

[crisp bobcat]

I was in hide for more than half of the time and when he opens the door he throws torch at me

Nearly hitting me.

Lvl 78 rogue with some skin that has blue skin

[magic prairie]

yeah instead of fixing there game they did dumb shit like a water map a pve mode shit that casual gamer would hop in a play for a few days and never pick up again. That's there game now pick it up for a few and forget about it.

[crisp bobcat]

Ill just play pickpocket rogue until i rage because of these ESP fuckrs

Does anyone know why do people load up in game and stand still on spawn?

[crisp bobcat]

I happen to see this almost every game, is this some pathetic attempt of developers to get "online" numbers?

[nocturne scarab]

jfc first chest pull of the season

[drifting scaffold]

u been complaining about esp for like 2 hours now, are you sure they're not just ghosting the lobby?

[drifting scaffold]

grats

[nocturne scarab]

cheers, could be worse though i suppose
could be even closer to this already almost over wipe

I may just get this stingray egg

[drifting scaffold]

that's what I would shoot for now too lol

[nocturne scarab]

current *seller asking price is something like ~200k gold

[trail arrow]

whats the spawn rate of those things? Does anyone know?

[nocturne scarab]

Best I think anyone can offer you right now is a "Trust me bro"
But pretty low and near 1/100+ or worse

[quaint carbon]

Buff penguin and chicken

[trail arrow]

damnn
I mean for 200k gold its pretty worth it

[nocturne scarab]

Wasnt the religion skin this season something like 100k anyways?
200k really isnt that much and i say that with some trepidation

[trail arrow]

Its probably more than I've earned across the this and the last wipe, 200k is a lot to a timmy who dies whenever they enter hr lol

[nocturne scarab]

also 46str epic barb w/ unique bardiche @ 30% hsdb hitting for 150-160

[nocturne scarab]

Not playing a lot then? Money is, now that map select is back, even easier to make than before.

I'm generally getting 1.7k-2.5k per floor if key focused but yeah definitely not for timmies

[static zodiac]

i love having kernel anticheats on my pc yummy

[red scarab]

how's the state of the game

[trail peak]

not too great and seems like even worse ever since arc raiders came out

[red scarab]

damn i was thinking about coming back

[winged citrus]

Don't forget that Ironmaces anti cheat scans your system files. Make sure to download a ton of furry erotica to fill entire TB so you make IMs AI bot crash.

[fringe jungle]

there are news in the wipe that is coming?

[steel forge]

we need the new monk class >>

[fringe jungle]

i was thinking about this

[zealous tulip]

@trail arrow it's like .03% for HR and half that for normal. I talked to someone that farmed the stingray 240 times before seeing an egg.

[dire ginkgo]

any news when is about to come the wipe ?

[slow niche]

No game is dead mate

[zealous tulip]

Im not sure about the wipe. I've heard January over and over, but I'm not sure if the makers even know.

[deft cobalt]

maybe a dumb question, if you die do the kills you got that game not add to the leaderboard?

[signal pagoda]

hello everyone!

[rotund stag]

3300 players 💀

[austere anvil]

are they adding monk yet

[cunning ore]

"Make or break" season.

[fallow umbra]

game is practically dead and what’s @proud copper doing about it? doesn’t seem to care at all

[drifting scaffold]

theres 4200 players on rn we had like 8k earlier

[young flax]

Double jump rogue on the space map is such a load of crap. It's not even fair they just double jump and they are across the entire planet

[drifting scaffold]

it's not even deader than the semi semi semi wipe lol

[rotund stag]

played season2-6~ s7 worst one

[cunning ore]

There's six times more people playing Age of Empires II right now.

[turbid elbow]

AOE2 is a great game tho apples to oranges

[cunning ore]

A game is a game it's not apples to oranges.

[young flax]

Yeah we should see how many are on candy crush. A game is a game they are all the same and should hold the same player counts.

[drifting scaffold]

lmfao the season after ice caves was the worst by far, and season 6 went like 6 months how is this one worse

[rotund stag]

@drifting scaffold random hr? legit unplayble season

[cunning ore]

Candy Crush is a much better game, both in financial terms, player count, pretty much everything. Sure it's goofy, but it beats this shit in execution by miles.

[nocturne scarab]

I keep that whole series downloaded at all times tbh.

[supple drift]

I mean.. Dark and Darker is not a casual game.

[cunning ore]

I mean, this game is under "Stumble Guys", which is a Temu version, of a game, which is already garbage.

[young flax]

Bro your comparing a mobile game whose target audience is old women to a pc game. This game is ass but to try to act like that's not comparing apples to oranges is such a reach it's insane

[nocturne scarab]

why r u taking such shit bait

[cunning ore]

Given the fact that I would rather play Candy Crush rn than this, not really.

[drifting scaffold]

erm then why arent u in the candy crush discord 🤓

[cunning ore]

Because I want my money back from this trash.

[young flax]

Poor and dumb. Ooooooof

[cunning ore]

If you're going to take my money to put into garbage development, you're going to hear the feedback.

[young flax]

LMAO wait you actually think they read this shit? Dumber than I originally imagined

[woven widget]

I am, they tease all the new levels in advance

[cunning ore]

They can't even read english, let alone feedback.

[turbid elbow]

we need some shop skins and some twitch drops this christmas, thanks

[hazy hawk]

🫃all I ever wanted from this game was morbidly pregnant goblin men with big fat cheeks that made plopping noises as the ran bare-cheeked down the wet-walled stony goblin caves. Why cant we get cheeked up preggoblins? Better yet, why cant we get wizards that are even OLDER and VICIOUSLY CLOSE TO DYING OF OLD AGE, but with FRESH LATE-TERM preggar bellies, with no blemishes and perfect skin, while the rest of their bodies are sucked in like raisins, as if the preg was draining their life force, and with even LONGER white beards, whiters and longer and older, just there defensless in the cold stone cobblestone crypts, just so scared and so alone and wishing and praying for atrong goblin arms to wrap around them and hold them and keep them safe.
WHY CANT WE HAVE THIS IN GAME🫃

[cunning ore]

Can't wait for the BTS x Dark & Darker crossover skins when some Korean dev. actually buys this IP and turns into a mobilefest.

[turbid elbow]

fulgor 4.99$ in shop may be the way

[woven widget]

I cant wait for the Dark and darker happy meal with blue portal shaped nuggets

[trail arrow]

Damn thanks for the odds I was about to try to farm it in norms lol

[woven widget]

its not, its 5% in norms

[warm fable]

druid monkey transformation will save the game

[delicate ibex]

Monkey in a spacesuit form

[nocturne scarab]

monkey already exists in the game
avg dad player

[warm fable]

However, over time, I forgot about it (please keep in mind that I’m just a chimpanzee who cooks), and someone suggested that applying a very small amount of it to certain slots (like necklaces) might add some fun, so I decided to try it again.

[nocturne scarab]

"Also it's your fault"

[woven widget]

arent we all just chimps who cook

[mellow violet]

Didnt they already have a mobile game that failed??

[warm fable]

mobile game went seperate way, changed name or smt and then died

[mellow violet]

Too bad this one is taking the same turn lmao

Instead of dark and darker just call it SDF testing fun grounds

[cyan monolith]

tuff

[drifting scaffold]

10 years of dark and darker strap in bud

[warm fable]

today I have eaten banana with tea under a big gray sun

[mellow violet]

I doubt it

Ban them

[frozen olive]

are there any fulgors on tiktok shop

[lethal zephyr]

Don’t think so but there’s a bunch of stuff on there. I’m collecting one piece and trying to get these booster boxes i only need one more person. It’s legit I’ve done it already 😭

[lethal zephyr]

I think you need more kpop in your life

[woven widget]

<@&988703997378584596> fun isnt allowed right?

[mellow violet]

You're posting tiktok links. We aren't the same

[lethal zephyr]

Nah you’re busy getting thrashed by barbarians and crying they are unbalanced then going to LOL to rage more

[woven widget]

confirmed, fun isnt allowed

[mellow violet]

I haven't played this game in months and you're trying to get one piece stuff. Please step outside

[slate hawk]

Let's stay respectful towards others, folks 🙂

[lost plover]

Do not post those links in this server please

And lets be respectful

[lethal zephyr]

What’s wrong with OP?

[mellow violet]

Crazy. Link sharing isn't allowed. Who could have guessed

[lethal zephyr]

Ahhh K-pop hater and one piece hater what else do you hate

[lost plover]

Move on please

[mellow violet]

This is like taking candy from a baby and you don't even gotta do anything

[warm fable]

warden show us upcoming content

[lost plover]

Upcoming content? Sure

[mellow violet]

No upcoming content

[lost plover]

There's a new season comming eventually with new HR rewards

And balance changes

Eventually

[lethal zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-gif-23474613

[woven widget]

and new content

[mellow violet]

Embed failure

[slate hawk]

All right, dunno if I can share this, but from what I have ||theorized, there will be swords and magic and bows soon. Maybe the same as those already in the game, in fact.||

[lost plover]

Eventually

[lethal zephyr]

[lost plover]

Shhhhhhhhhhh

[mellow violet]

You sure it's not gonna be a new water map that'll kill the player base more??

[woven widget]

confirmed by chyunkus the original classes are getting new perks and skills

[lost plover]

Also confirmed by SDF in his kitchen

[warm fable]

approved by graysun

[woven widget]

Idk who that is

[slate hawk]

Really? That would be nice. Rebuff classes that needs it that were released before the Warlock.

[mellow violet]

Y'all got like maybe 2 more major patches before people give up

[supple drift]

Winter update coming soon~

[cyan monolith]

Lowk they should work on monk and spacemap, for another half finished class and another queue split

[warm fable]

winter update? free legendary status again?

[mellow violet]

Spacemap is crazy

[lost plover]

I got infinite patches before I give up. I cast purification and boss

Healer + Purification unless they kill healing again i'll be fine

[mellow violet]

Ofc you do. You basically work for them being a discord mod and promoting false positivity for the game.

[cunning ore]

You know what - you're right, I realized what the problem with this game - it is us, the players.

We've been the ones always wrong this entire time.

The world is not prepared, to witness a wonder of a game, in which a class can just stack Vigor and hold MOUSE1 to win every trade without counters. We - we were wrong the whole time. SDF vision is too ahead for the common mortal.

[lost plover]

Thats just not true. I complaign all the time. There's a ton of things that need to be fixed. I just also play games forever once I pick them up. I still play swtor have since launch I played Riders of Icarus till it shut down too

[cunning ore]

I now start to see the Light.

[slate hawk]

I feel like a good portion of the players want

• New content (maps, weapons, modules, classes, Arena rewards)
• Optimization patch / server lag fixes
• Revamp of existing content (skills for classes)

And we can't agree on what we want first, some people even think that either the devs do the one thing they want or the game is ruined, but focusing on either of the other two will also ruin the game

[cyan monolith]

Legit none of this matters

[mellow violet]

Other games aren't what we are talking about here. Dark and darker is. But I get it

[lost plover]

There's also 400k people giving opinions and only 5k players actually experiencing it

[mellow violet]

Water map was a bust, removing solos was huge too lmao.

[cunning ore]

There is no need to give opinions - we were wrong the whole time - embrace the vision.

[slate hawk]

That's also very true. Weird how some people complain, yet aren't trying the changes.
But I can see the point where, the game is too far from their expectations and the changes offered do not fully fix the game to them, so they don't bother and complain until [whatever]

[cyan monolith]

The only thing this game actually needs is more progression and additions to the gameplay loop, doesnt matter how many classes and new perks they add if the gameplay is still just "kill player-> sell gear-> buy gold storage" the game will die off in the same time as normally. Theres literally nothing to do in this game once u hit demigod from an objective standpoint and thats the biggest problem in this game and i dont understand why no one seems to know its the case

[warm fable]

I wonder what else devs can cook for fighter beside polearm mastery

[mellow violet]

Solos mode return hopefully

[cyan monolith]

Solos is in the game brodie

[warm fable]

fog of war was such a good addition to gameplay loop. but people are mad cos they couldn't find boss

[woven widget]

Hopefully gunslinger subclass

[warm fable]

bruh. dmc5 dante gameplay incoming

[surreal granite]

jgriffy was right about yall

[quaint carbon]

Its impolite to talk with your mouth full

[frozen olive]

GLUK GLUK GLUK GAWK GAWK SLURRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE jk he was right tho

[warm fable]

full of what?

[broken pagoda]

Full of Druid buffs

[quaint carbon]

hopefully

[surreal granite]

Not sure Chores are what is needed outside of Content in and of itself, the crypts but different would have been better for a map imo, but idk if any real content has been added outside druid sorc and water map since the warlock came out. Game went from 0-60 in 2 seconds at first but now were 15mph cruise controll since

[quaint carbon]

Buff penguin and chicken

[warm fable]

• The Rat's plague effect now ticks every 3s dealing 2 Dark Magical Base Damage over 40s.
  (spreads onto other enemies when target dies)
  @quaint carbon good enough?

[cunning ore]

Here's a list of things I think the game needs to be successful:

• Better player base, the players right now are terrible and too committed to the game, all they do is complain and not support SDF.
• Buffs to Barb class. Barb needs to be able to scale not only with Vigor, but also with Strength, because they're physical based, so if they're stronger they should have more HP.
• Perks should be reduced to 2 or 3 slots maximum (I'd aim 2 only). Less perks: easier balance. More fun for everyone.
• Every wipe, each player should get a free Arena Set, so that they don't need to farm, it would just save their time and patience as otherwise they would just have to farm gold.
• Artifacts should become PVE only, they are too strong and should belong only where people can still use them and players don't get mad over it.
• Only water map for a whole season, people just don't like it because they haven't played enough, if there's only one map, people can't be mad over choice.

[woven widget]

the bait is too blatant

[cunning ore]

SDF was right.

[broken pagoda]

Bro just asked chatgpt how to make dark and darker better

[woven widget]

show us the water map files

[nocturne scarab]

Are the grenades really alive?

[woven widget]

step 1 - in depth pickling tutorial
step 2 - botulism
step 3 - ☹️

[quaint carbon]

Hmm a start. I think spreading when next to enemies before death and perma spread would be cool. Force people to ungroup for a second

[cyan monolith]

I dont think you understand, if they added 10 new classes magically next season, the question is then what

What do you do in this game

Theres no objective goal outside of quests and demigod. And both of those systems are very bad

[drifting scaffold]

why are quests bad, again? crafts, milestone rewards, squire gear

[woven widget]

gear?

[cyan monolith]

Yeah thats my point

Game loop has been the same since playtests

[drifting scaffold]

terry was supposedly working on some kind of cross mode progression but who knows if we'll ever see it

[cyan monolith]

We need something else to do or work towards

[woven widget]

oh no, gear is a goal in my extraction game 😱

[drifting scaffold]

i think quests are worthy things to work towards, just need to add better milestone rewards to ones that currently don't have any. fortune teller as an example

[cyan monolith]

Cause half the quests in this game is mindnumbing slaving away for hours, or some random boss drop thats like 1/200 chance

[drifting scaffold]

almost none of them are actually like that tho lol

we got 1 quest with a truly rare drop this wipe

[cyan monolith]

And the rewards from quests are terrible, only good thing from it at all is the green meds and craft unlocks

[drifting scaffold]

bruh 2 chests available via quests this wipe what

[cyan monolith]

?

[woven widget]

that I agree with, chests shouldnt be a big goal theyre gold storage, it shouldnt be hard to get gold storage

[visual swallow]

the goal is to kill people and take their shit.

[warm fable]

what if there are no people to kill

[cyan monolith]

My exact point

[visual swallow]

fucking kids gotta be told why they should play a game a be rewarded for it lol

[drifting scaffold]

there's always people to kill

even when this game is dead and deader there's still ppl trying to hawk your gear

[drifting scaffold]

D O P A M I N E !!! I NEED DOPAMINEEE!!!!

[cyan monolith]

If i get into a dead lobby or the game is just dead in general thers literally 0 reason to play since the whole fucking game is built upon 1 flawed progression system

[woven widget]

'Why do you want to enjoy the game youre playing' bro?

[drifting scaffold]

ur mistaking a gameplay loop for progression

[fringe garnet]

Hey anyone know when wipe is? I wanna get in on the next one but dont wanna join and then wipe hits next week lol.

[cyan monolith]

Mistyped

[woven widget]

NOW

[drifting scaffold]

early january is what we got so far. adding perks and skills

[crisp bobcat]

And thats not a proved word, just people's thoughts

[fringe garnet]

Appreciate it. Well whenever it does hope to see yall for some longsword bro moments

[cyan monolith]

Games over with by then

[drifting scaffold]

sort of. chyunkus confirmed early jan and devs have already said they plan to do more perks and skills (and arena season 1)

[drifting scaffold]

[crisp bobcat]

Will rogue get attention?

[drifting scaffold]

probably? who cares

[cyan monolith]

Fucking hope not

[crisp bobcat]

🥹

[crisp bobcat]

I mean hide is clearly overpowered

[verbal marten]

yeah bro i totally want the invis class buffed

[broken pagoda]

Rogue will now be able to quadra jump and the moment they take damage, they gain 300 MS going over the MS cap

[drifting scaffold]

maybe they'll finally get their wall running spider man shit

and maybe barb will finally get bola

[crisp bobcat]

I started playing rogue today and its the most successful class for me so far

[cyan monolith]

Plz

[cyan monolith]

Wonder why

[crisp bobcat]

Isnt bola is the type of shit thats supposed to slow you VERY bad?

[verbal marten]

It’s soo funny watching people defend this game as if it’ll get better before something greater comes out lmao

[crisp bobcat]

Hide op, what can i say

[drifting scaffold]

wow shocker yea ppl like the game and play it crazy stuff right

[cyan monolith]

🤖

[crisp bobcat]

The design is good, realisation too, but the balance is poor

[drifting scaffold]

ok that's ridiculous lmao balance is great rn better than it has been almost ever

[crisp bobcat]

Overall the game is great if you dont look onto PVP. (which im playing)

[drifting scaffold]

classes have distinct strengths and weaknesses and every class is viable

that's never happened, every wipe and patch there's been 1-2 totally useless classes

[crisp bobcat]

Well i have some stuff to complain about, and since i didnt witnessed the game state years ago, well...

[drifting scaffold]

ok but just because you have complaints about your own experience doesn't mean it's unbalanced. u may just not know how to play yet

[verbal marten]

I mean you can play the shit game all you want but defending it to the level you have is insane. Everytime I open this discord you are defending it like a lunatic

[drifting scaffold]

u just said ur playing rogue for the first time 😅

[crisp bobcat]

I do know how to play yet, druid SUCKS though

There is no way i hit a chicken druid in full white with my full blue gear on rogue and he doesnt dies

[cyan monolith]

Ikr its unreal

[drifting scaffold]

yea me playing the game i like and chatting about it is so insane. i must be crazy to like a game and chill in the discord chatting about it

[cyan monolith]

Bro has to be on the payroll no way someone does this for free

[crisp bobcat]

Castillion dagger + 6 true phys + throwing knife

[drifting scaffold]

definitely not crazy to be in the chat and hate the game

[verbal marten]

he’s the og throat goat for the game

[cyan monolith]

💀

Chiiiillll

[drifting scaffold]

lmao good one bro we def never heard that b4 in here

[verbal marten]

clean that gunk outta your throat cquinn and go play arc raiders. It’s better for you

[crisp bobcat]

Well actually second, ive tried all classes other then fighter and ranger, and i know what im saying.

[drifting scaffold]

yuck 3rd person slop

[verbal marten]

top 5 on steam

[drifting scaffold]

arc raiders is too casual even if i liked a 3rd person shooter

[crisp bobcat]

Ive got back to rogue after lvling each class to 20-30-40+ twice or more

[drifting scaffold]

bro i do not care lol i'm in this discord bc i like this game

[cyan monolith]

Dudes will say this then main norms and arena

[drifting scaffold]

i mean thats just 1 mode away from the whole game

[mellow violet]

Like actual solos or solos being forced to fight 2s and 3s?

[drifting scaffold]

actually scratch that im convinced most ppl out here spam pve mode and arena

[verbal marten]

ur right, it needs that stinky green aura that all extraction games have.

[cyan monolith]

How u gonna complain then not know what ur talking about 😭 solos was gone for like 1 week then re added

[drifting scaffold]

i don't rly like extraction games very much, this is just a fun skill based rpg to me

[mellow violet]

I quit during then. Womp womp

[crisp bobcat]

He means teaming

[cyan monolith]

Fair enough

[mellow violet]

I quit along with 70% of the playerbase

[crisp bobcat]

The only time i witnessed teamers though was my very first DaD gameplay day

[drifting scaffold]

"quit'

[verbal marten]

Everyday I try to save people from this game

[drifting scaffold]

ur doing great sweetie

[mellow violet]

Let SDF cook bro. He'll make the game great again

[drifting scaffold]

🤕 lost the plot in 30 seconds

[mellow violet]

[crisp bobcat]

The game is great though, gameloop might be annoying though if you play 24/7

[north river]

bro overcooks xD

[mellow violet]

Burnt to high heavens

[crisp bobcat]

"sometimes i want us to expirience space as well"

[crisp bobcat]

[drifting scaffold]

if it's like water map it'll probably be pretty fun

[mellow violet]

The water map was a bust????

[drifting scaffold]

water map is 2nd best atp it's crazy

[crisp bobcat]

THE FUCK

[crisp bobcat]

BRO WHO IS THIS GUY, HES CLEARLY NOT ONE OF US!!!

[drifting scaffold]

somebody never bothered to learn it woops 🤭

[verbal marten]

It’s the no new content that is the problem and whenever they do add something it never makes the game better

[drifting scaffold]

too many times getting diffed underwater or what

the game is a series of challenges to overcome, why would you shy away from it

[crisp bobcat]

I just want to see something new, druid forms maybe, ill have to delete my rogue and switch to druid then to try it out

[north river]

we dont want druid!

get that shi outta here

[crisp bobcat]

This shit is pretty annoying yeah

[cyan monolith]

Half ur arguments are just insults lol, really not selling ur point

[crisp bobcat]

Cant call those insults though

[cyan monolith]

^

[warm fable]

[drifting scaffold]

what? yeah i'm saying ppl who never bothered to learn the water map are hating on it even tho it's a good time

[cyan monolith]

And when they finally add something that could be good they decide to make it useless (faustian, cockatrice merchant)

[north river]

its miserable and ive played it a bit, doesnt feel like dark and darker and ranged classes are prioritized

[drifting scaffold]

adding verticality is a great challenge to play around

[drifting scaffold]

range classes are totally hamstrung in the water though?

[north river]

not even xD

[drifting scaffold]

bruh use ctrl and space

[north river]

maybe wiz and sorc

[verbal marten]

You actually think the water map is good? Fucking hilarious

[drifting scaffold]

no i'm talking about bows

[drifting scaffold]

yes and i'm tired of pretending it's not 🤣

[north river]

u dont play water map or sum

[marsh oriole]

when we getting new content @proud copper game has 3,000 players.

[verbal marten]

dont have to pretend

[surreal granite]

Lol, where did you hear that kind of rhetoric

[drifting scaffold]

you take away doors on a huge map and instead give you ways to sneak under water and break LOS with other tactics than just W keying straight at a guy

[verbal marten]

bro holy fucking throat goat

[drifting scaffold]

but yeah it's got "too much water" and "needs more land" cmon that's crazy the water is the whole point

[north river]

defending a game thats evidently dying bc the devs dont do anything is crazy

[mellow violet]

Went out of the way to learn the map just to come to terms that it's like a pile of crap you Marco waved and called it chocolate.

It's shit

[verbal marten]

bro just take sdfs meat outta your mouth

[mellow violet]

Calling people bad for not liking it is petty though

[drifting scaffold]

genuinely rent free keep going bud

[drifting scaffold]

i didnt say bad i said never bothered to learn 🙂 but yea i guess if u wanna take it that way

[mellow violet]

Sdf made awful choices, more bad than good

[verbal marten]

I will because it’s funny

[mellow violet]

It's basically the same thing bud.

[drifting scaffold]

i know u guys don't actually play the game but it's pretty funny how ppl who like to talk about the game are just absolute babies about anything new or challenging. we're playing a high skill game with tough learning curves so i get the reaction but fr wyd here

[mellow violet]

You're dense

[north river]

4k players says alot

[verbal marten]

lmao

[north river]

dead ash

[mellow violet]

Bring back pt2

[drifting scaffold]

oh no bro druid got released we gotta actually watch our backs !! oh no creep on rogue better run right into an open room in solos

[warm fable]

[verbal marten]

Because this game is SOOOOO well designed lmao gtfo

[drifting scaffold]

like cmon it's crazy to think u ever played the game other than imitating ur fav streamer

[mellow violet]

Streamer viewers aren't real

[drifting scaffold]

fav streamers for this game, btw, are mostly blinker rippers

anyway i got some work to do cya around 🙂

[supple drift]

[verbal marten]

The throat goat everyone

[mellow violet]

The first step is acceptance. Good luck

[verbal marten]

I genuinely can’t understand why people play this over arc. Yeah it’s not melee extraction but im waiting for project vision for that

[mellow violet]

Eggheads

As we just saw, little criticism creates a big crack

[verbal marten]

lol it’s been more than a little. Literally the worst development ive ever seen for a game

the flip flops, removing solos

[mellow violet]

Agreed, besides dungeonborne but we don't talk about that anymore :(

[verbal marten]

The issue is that everything they add keeps making the game worse or more broken with no good counter measures in place. Literally zero intuition for game development.

But that is all I take my leave

[mellow violet]

Just let it die

We got arc raiders

[lost plover]

It doesn't have magic or a dragon though..............

I need those

[mellow violet]

Play hardcore classic wow.

With pvp on. Basically the same thing

[median beacon]

@proud copper @hexed adder how come a block option exists in the trade channel but when you click on it it doesnt do anything and these bots continue to instantly trade you?

[strange sage]

its per character for some dumb fucking reason

[warm fable]

yo Graysun how ya doing

[median beacon]

its not though. ive blocked the same guy several times on the same character

[lost plover]

If they delete and remake the character with the same name the new character is not blocked

Its really frustrating

[median beacon]

so all these ppl are getting level 20, scamming for like a week, and deleting that character and getting back to 20 to reset the blocks?

or something along those lines

[dense wolf]

how do find geared solos

[cyan monolith]

Next wipe

[median beacon]

NA East sometimes

[median dust]

High roller sure is just littered with warlocks

[warm fable]

@vale oar @hexed adder Are the new skills and perks inspired by community feedback?”

[late bolt]

SURELY fortnite zone is gone next season right??? no it doesnt encourage pvp it encourages people ratting in the zone

[young flax]

Japan water map. It's actually kind of crazy. I was shocked but it's been consistent gold over there

[vale oar]

I think feedback and ideas/suggestions alike have contributed to some of them

[woven widget]

theyre adding the fortnite storm surfing mechanic

[warm fable]

season 8

game changes:

• dark swarm damage increased by 300%

[short pelican]

why i got 0 characters and then game crush? Anyone else has this problem?

[warm fable]

🔥 that's good to hear

[humble blaze]

**season 8 **

1- Motorcycles
2- Motorcycle skins
3- Sidecars (for duos)
4- Double sidecars (for trios)
5- Pegrent Goblin final boss

[late bolt]

goblin cave hell with goblin pregnant broodmother boss 😳

[humble blaze]

Pregnant goblin spider

[dreamy vine]

human brains naturally lurch at things they percieve as changed

[warm fable]

I hope in tavern table sdf will say the same.
last time he started with "We still don't care about community feedback" which wasn't very nice

[dreamy vine]

an object inmotion tends to stay in motion

[lost plover]

Essentially yeah

[median beacon]

i suppose thats better than the block option just seemingly not working

gotta make it account based though not character based

[dreamy vine]

not *blocked

[ashen flume]

anyone getting dookie fps rn?

[supple drift]

Do you think warlock's curse of pain needs a rework? Hitscan is no fun.

[ionic fox]

There won’t be a tavern table for a long time

[sterile hornet]

game crash?

[short pelican]

yes. when i try to load in there s 0 characters for some reason and then after 5 sec game crushes. dunno wtf

[weary tinsel]

for youtube videos do you think showing loot after each fight is better or altogether at the end

[nocturne scarab]

Some people would prefer it all in one spot to avoid crying about bandwidth - if you really want to please people, it being a section in the "progress bar" that people can find is also nice and you can preface people at the start of your video as a prompt

[solar siren]

hey, does anyone play this game on linux via blacksmith ? does it run out of the box?

[quartz arch]

When are we removing true hide from the game

[still dome]

not sure what meth ur smoking homie but wiz has like 4 differnt shields that prevent dmg

[drifting scaffold]

someone mentioned bonk wiz on there tho he still dies in 2 hits once you pop the real bubble

[cunning ore]

Never.

[crisp bobcat]

Try VPN, i have same issue, cant play without VPN now.

[crisp bobcat]

The day they happens, theyll come...
-"true magic damage rogues with full inventory of throwing knifes arrive"

[short pelican]

damn. but thank you!

[crisp bobcat]

No problem, from choices i can recommend windscibe, p2 use though. (10gb free when mail linked)

[quaint carbon]

After the fight prob. Either or but knowing after the fight is nice to see

[hasty roost]

These player numbers are looking sad yall, Make or Break season right?

[cunning ore]

The problem is the players. SDF is the one correct.

[sleek fern]

@sdf Have you seen "hunger" they already have 9 classes with fully finished skill tree for each class. a training room right in the lobby. every class can use guns. And the world actually ahsa fully flushed out lore . Andt he game is still in alpha

[woven widget]

if it aint broke, dont fix it

[hasty roost]

Who needs players when you have "THE VISION" ™

[nocturne scarab]

I think the community is too fractured. We should probably roll back to playtest 1 and redo everything and see how we really feel about it.

😏

[cunning ore]

[vast canopy]

How much gold coin bags is 1 chest?

[drifting scaffold]

just play squire to riches same diff

[hasty roost]

Put Add Weapon dmg rolls on every gear slot you say?!

[nocturne scarab]

i saw someone running around naked in hr earlier and thought they were rping as pt1

• get naked
• bring poor weapon
• retro

[hasty roost]

Honestly, bringing back the pre game tavern lobby would be clutch, VOIPing and being silly before the match launched was a good vibe and really set the tone for the whole game, now its just load in and murder/timmy stomp,

[visual swallow]

it was removed because it was being abused, unfortunately

[drifting scaffold]

bring back junk weapons

[nocturne scarab]

You ready for the vibes that would bring after its been gone this long?

Would actually have to start moderating these pre lobbies lolol

[nocturne scarab]

its a new craft through a mechanism of applying acid to a weapon to downgrade its quality™

[woven widget]

new craft where you drop it in dirt

[median beacon]

i press block on the trade bots name and it legit does absolutely nothing i press block on the character list it does absolutely nothing

[hasty roost]

I just miss being able to test my dmg on the training dummies and using bear form to block doors with the same training dummies. Good times...

[nocturne scarab]

Industry standard says less content = better
enjoy

[atomic marlin]

WATER MAP IS STILL BROKEN 0 FPS BTW YOU MADE IT WORST @proud copper

[drifting scaffold]

throwable acid that degrades opponent’s gear

[vast canopy]

How much gold coin bags is 1 chest?
How much gold coin bags is 1 chest?

[drifting scaffold]

look up chest on market
Look up bag on market
divide

[vast canopy]

Thanks

[drifting scaffold]

usually chest is around 30k?

[visual swallow]

about tree fiddy

[drifting scaffold]

Bags I think like 6-7k?

[supple drift]

50g Giggles.

[woven widget]

🤹

[hybrid sequoia]

I can answer this for you
Arc Raiders is your party girl - pretty, moves well, but is completely shallow
DaD is your dad, it beats the shit out of you, but you can't stop loving it, you scream you'll move out, but you just never do, looks old, moves janky, but makes a man out of you

[woven widget]

tarkov is your ex

[hybrid sequoia]

tarkov is the creep in a van who offers you free candy, you either fall for it or you don't

[woven widget]

Nah tarkov is your ex, she cheets on you and you forgive her

[verbal marten]

"But is completely shallow" You just blow in from stupid town?

[supple drift]

Oh? Arc is shallow? Interesting

[clever cloud]

Who has better vision? Nikita or SDF

[woven widget]

Arc is definately shallow

Doesnt mean I dont love it, half the fun comes from player interactions

[clever cloud]

Arc was buns.

[supple drift]

Looks like I made a right choice for not buying it, hooray!

[clever cloud]

Felt like a kindergarten in there. Best way I can describe it

[woven widget]

the difference is, theyre like early dad, we get new toys to play with all the time

[quaint carbon]

Buff penguin

[supple drift]

ah i see

[hybrid sequoia]

both need glasses

[hybrid sequoia]

extraction looter with flat, boring loot
game about getting good gear to have an advantage, where gear has very little relevance

[verbal marten]

game hasn't been out for even a quarter of a year and it's still in a better state than D&D after 2 years of "development"

[hybrid sequoia]

your kit building is what kind of grenades take into the raid

[woven widget]

now that isnt a fair comparison, both have their own merrit

[verbal marten]

kinda'

[clever cloud]

Space map

[dreamy vine]

Lol

[hybrid sequoia]

performance and graphics?
Yes.
Everything else?
Hahahahaha, oh you silly little willy, even Mistfal Hunter and Dungeonborne had deeper character building than Arc does, the extensive talent tree Arc has is cosmetic at best, talents with up to 5 points, where up to 3 points do nothing

[verbal marten]

but see that's what actually makes the game good. I begged for more utility to be put into dark and darker because it would actually balance all the class issues by having something everyone can use to counter those problems. Arc Raiders devs have a brain and already thought of that.

[atomic schooner]

comparing this game and arc is like comparing silk song and hades 2. they are completely different games lol

[mellow violet]

Am I wrong? Lol

[verbal marten]

so tell me honestly do you think that there should be gear modifiers in arc?

[mellow violet]

You're still in here bruh?

[verbal marten]

i came back

[hybrid sequoia]

see, in DaD it would just be an addition, in Arc its literally how you build a kit, Arc is a plain shooter, that alone puts hard limits on depth of gameplay

[mellow violet]

Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?

[supple drift]

I like strawberries. Yummy.

[verbal marten]

but like you're saying it's shallow like what do you think it needs?

[supple drift]

In DaD playtest era, is it shallow game?

[woven widget]

yes
However, arc doesnt market itself as a playtest and has more content than dad did at launch
incl, skill tree, quests that arent just 'go here, kill that, give me item'

[hybrid sequoia]

there are gear mods, they just aren't relevant for augments and weapon rarity loses relevance due to mods and upgrading, gear is flat, progression is flat, even getting queen weapons is just "its another weapon", you have no oomph of finding artifacts or BIS piece in DaD, you have no feeling of "jackpot" when you find something rare, because its an extraction looter with boring loot

[supple drift]

Very interesting, ima give arc a time. maybe two years.

[cunning ore]

I was able to put a satellite in space quicker than SDF was able to create quivers for Rangers.

And I'm not trolling on that one.

[clever cloud]

I believe this 100%

[dreamy vine]

Lol

[hybrid sequoia]

its a shooter, it'll always be shallower by that principle alone, I do have a bias, because I'm not a fan of pvp shooters (20 years of playing them is enough for me), but its a shooter, it just has guns and grenades, it doesn't get any more basic than that, regardless of what kind of guns or grenades you put in

[verbal marten]

bro just buy the game and play it. you sound like a dork going "herrrrrmm I will wait for this already popular game to get better"

[supple drift]

[verbal marten]

like it's top 5 for a reason

[lunar tapir]

How can i play Dark and Darker with mods? like i want pregnant goblins and i want to play as Leon S. Kennedy

[supple drift]

yeaaa... but.... toooo early...

[woven widget]

step 1 - buy ironmace

[fallen tundra]

[turbid harness]

They have quivers in “expedition into darkness”

[verbal marten]

it's not though, it had playtests and an open beta tf you mean?

[clever cloud]

Single Player Darker when?

[lunar tapir]

xD

[supple drift]

Like people played Arc for a month then... they would say "now what? I have everything." Some people are very very crazy at rushing everything and got bored.

[turbid harness]

“Expedition into darkness” playtest rn

[hybrid sequoia]

Barony is literally right there

[timber orbit]

i like both games. 🔥

[clever cloud]

Both terrible suggestions ngl

[delicate ibex]

Play HR right now and you'll get it

[verbal marten]

you wait for expedition which is in a day or 2. you have to have 5 mil in value to get 5 skill points

[dreamy vine]

Except they didn't grind they bought. Made arena lame to many actual dungeon players. It made it so you didn't even have to play the game you could just buy a set and spam arena

[supple drift]

Ah I see

[clever cloud]

Im on the test servers dawg (if those are even still a thing lmao)

[timber orbit]

are people meant to play only one game for years on end

[supple drift]

[clever cloud]

The water map and the arena changes was the only thing to wake me up after 2-3 years of exclusively playing Darker

Tarkov is my new bae now. Please sdf take me back

[verbal marten]

imma be so honest you sound like my entire friend group that misses out on all these great games because "it's too early" but really they're just brain rotted Leauge of Legends players that won't play anything else

your messages before not that one

[dreamy vine]

Found the bard player

[supple drift]

It's okay for not liking me. Thank you for your feedback

[verbal marten]

it's not that i don't like you it's just that i can't understand why people are like that

including my friends

[woven widget]

well, would you wanna give me 50 bucks rn for the chance I give you a good time?

[verbal marten]

fair enough

[dreamy vine]

A friend bought me arc i declined it im not investing time to learn and play watered down tarkov

[clever cloud]

Early Access was a mistake for the gaming industry.

[supple drift]

I think it's probably like "seeing ahead of yourself". Like asking a question, what if I buy this game, what will it look like in the future? Is it worth it? Does Arc will have same issues like DaD? Like rats, cheating, etc.

[verbal marten]

watered down tarkov where you can roll and slide and climb shit assassins creed style?

[supple drift]

So, I give a bit more time to see whats going on. Does it goes well or meh. something like that

[dreamy vine]

Do they keep them permanently? So there are no true wipes? That would cause serious issues if thats how it works

[cunning ore]

This game will go from Early Access to Early Shutdown.

[supple drift]

YOu dared? I will be very sad.

[dreamy vine]

Ya the cod mechanics from last decade except no jump packs or maybe there is who cares go camp some extracts or whatever

[cunning ore]

I don't know what's the charity that keeps this thing rolling, but this a commercial sinkhole.

[verbal marten]

or use raider hatches and dont get killed

[dreamy vine]

Non sequitur

[mellow violet]

Never touched bard. Disgusting class, so is druid

[timber orbit]

i love bard!

[woven widget]

bard isnt disgusting what ☹️

[timber orbit]

i love and respect the services my bard brodies put in

[dreamy vine]

That's the class where resourcefulness = buff duration because sdf says so otherwise will gives passive mr magic power and buff duration

[timber orbit]

only time bard was actually disgusting was when tranquility healed you while moving and early game buff ball

[supple drift]

[woven widget]

Yeah, now buff ball doesnt even need bard

[mellow violet]

I just think this game is cooked with "SDF cooking"

[dreamy vine]

All "new" classes break the game so I respect the bard disrespect

[woven widget]

What about fighter?

[mellow violet]

Hell man, I think the game is overdone. Burnt to a crisp

[timber orbit]

i must do my due diligence to ensure bard slander doesn’t go anywhere near the amount warlocks sorcs and druids receive

[dreamy vine]

Anyone got a vanilla dad server they started or what

[mellow violet]

Low-key miss pt2

I remember having to get a damn torrent to play one of the tests

[timber orbit]

i most certainly expeditiously certifiably do not miss pt2 one bit. i do miss everybody sucking though

[mellow violet]

The game was more fun when people weren't try Harding and just enjoying it

[timber orbit]

unfortunate part of the lifecycle of every game

when im trying to watch a dark and darker class tier list but Claire obscur expedition 33 wins best class

[clever cloud]

Few have tried. All have failed lol

[woven widget]

when Im trying to play a game but claire obscure expedition 33 boots up

[cunning ore]

After playing RPG's since the 80's I still can't the fathom why people like Expedition 33.

It's like all the good mechanics that were proven 30 years ago meshed into one boring story.

[timber orbit]

it’s art direction is pretty awesome but it’s still crazy it beat Hades 2

[cunning ore]

It's such a mediocre RPG. I still don't understand how it even made the list to anythin GOTY.

[woven widget]

when Im trying to watch the claire obscure expedition 33 awards but some fucking double A game wins an award

[timber orbit]

obscure indie titles like Hades 2

[south ridge]

Why game dead ?

[woven widget]

were all playing claire obscure expedition 33

[visual swallow]

turn based rpg where you hit a button when an attack lands for extra dmg or less dmg
what an original idea

[cunning ore]

Metal Gear Solid 2, now that's a game.

[visual swallow]

I tried to play mgs1 on an emulator recently. It... does not hold up

[crisp bobcat]

Vro why is DaD discord channel #the-tavern is either mald about DaD or just random shit

[hard blaze]

very sad to see this game reaching this level of emptyness

[dreamy vine]

Well, Party, Party, Party
I wanna have a Party
I need to have a Party
You better have a Party

Woah, Party, Party, Party
You gotta Party hardy
I'm gonna have a Party
Or else you will be sorry

Oh, Party, Party, Party
The Party's gonna start, hey
I know a guy named Marty
Marty loves to Party

Woah, Party, Party, Party
Party make me farty
I gotta take antacid
So I can keep on Partying

Sweet, sweet Party
Party, Party, Party
You gotta Party
Hey, I wanna Party

[gaunt oracle]

people that were having fun spending time in the game are no longer having fun; the time they spent doing the fun thing is now spent raging about the lack of said fun thing

its all PVP players. PVP game modes down bad because low population. low population because people spam dead game in NA. dead game in NA because low population.

[sonic cave]

There definitely are issues with the speed of Dad's development cycle. I'd agree. The only thing keeping wipes from happening every 3 months is that Ironmace wants each wipe to release something major. But with how slow it takes for them to develop larger projects, that ends up cutting the population down to ~5% at the end of a long wipe. That's the main reason people were annoyed by the water map, I think. It's a pretty map - and an open module setup has been suggested since the playtests. But it wasn't worth the last extended wipe and permanent loss of a chunk of the playerbase.

[jade sedge]

alot of yap and nobody is listening

[gaunt oracle]

it also doesn't help retain players at the start of the wipe when ironmace decides to artificially gate players' progress and/or attempt to force players into undesired game modes

random maps was the silent killer of this season

people will blame the water map, which needed more polish on release... but if the map was optional it wouldn't have mattered

[sonic cave]

If you have 80,000 active players, you can get away with a lot of split queues, to be fair. But I do agree @gaunt oracle I think that was a big issue for long term vets that would normally be extremely (maybe overly) loyal to the game in HR.

[gaunt oracle]

Prime takeaway for IM this season should be: Let players enjoy the game THEIR way. Without that, this game is trending into the dirt

unless of course their way is cheating, teaming, breaking TOS etc... then ban them for eternity. but if they just want to play their favorite map exclusively, LET THEM

[granite lark]

Who's got the self found purple kits poppin?

[errant isle]

There are no craftable neck pieces right besides the fang one and feather. But dont they both give luck, the new one added just gives way more luck?

[granite lark]

Also how many quests do I have to do with armorer and weaponsmith to craft purple? 12 quests still ?

[keen briar]

How’s my goated game coming along?

[gaunt oracle]

if you're a healer you can craft the new +3MH one, but yeah options are limited

[errant isle]

Its like 100 for ruby and gold and 150 for frostlight I believe

[slim scroll]

do they do hardware bans? for a small game there are alot of complains about cheaters

[errant isle]

Ahh true. Trying to make a cleric arena kit. That healing one would probably be best choice. Wish there was a ton more options

[winged citrus]

they nuked the FPS

it's just gone. Turned to mere atoms.

[errant isle]

Agreed. Way more lag

[winged citrus]

Dx11 port to dx12 did not go aswell as planned.

[gaunt oracle]

its kinda fun fighting bladehand.pps after stingray tho. who needs frames when you have audio cues

[slim scroll]

from a business standpoint, allowing cheaters to return with other new accounts means a steady source of income.

[errant isle]

Its not terrible for me. Doesn't affect pvp yet. But stutters throughout the whole match. Along with way more player lag. Which isnt bad lol

[winged citrus]

from a business standpoint that'd make sense if they didn't do a free weekend that inflated free accounts by a quite a bit.

cheaters just go to g2a pick up a 2$ copy of dnd and go crazy after getting banned.

[gaunt oracle]

wonder whos batch file created the most free accts

[regal badge]

is mummy still the best fighter race?

[visual swallow]

nightmare mummy prolly ya

[slim scroll]

its the same people getting caught and coming back again. maybe they do have a hidden source of income afterall.

imagine 2k players paying for the game every month again

[winged citrus]

its almost like some people will buy artifacts from websites (wild to be buying stuff on a game that wipes)

and they don't ban those guys at all even tho its mad obvious.

Like if they kept logs it would be so obvious.

[gaunt oracle]

I can't say "Ironmace doesn't ban for rmt" because IDK... but I can say I've never once seen someone say they got banned for rmt. 3+ years not ONE

[slim scroll]

if they don't hardware ban then they are indirectly allowing this to keep existing.

[winged citrus]

i can fosure say IM doesn't ban for RMT i've had ex friends who bought 200k~ gold or bought themselves artifacts and never been punished.

They don't even remotely monitor it at all.

[marble pond]

"Ex friends" lol

[slim scroll]

rmters are filling the servers and keeping the game falsely alive. they are valuable.

[winged citrus]

aint gonna play with ppl who can't even put in a bare minmum effort to learn and play the game properly.

[gaunt oracle]

they're also providing a monetary incentive for cheaters, teamers, and otherwise undesirable folks. RMT is bad. don't defend it

[winged citrus]

just because hurr durr i want religion finished now

[marble pond]

Not when a lot of them use ESP and team. Go play on the chinatown i mean oceanic server

[winged citrus]

unforunetly RMTers and cheaters go hand in hand. Cheaters see a place to make money they cheat cuz it gives them a unfair advantage then they sell whatever they can before they get banned.

[slim scroll]

exactly you summarized it well. it is incentivizing for them to keep playing

[gaunt oracle]

your ex-friends are losers. you did good leaving them behind

[gaunt oracle]

no, the monetary incentive is "If I spend X on cheats, I can pay it off with Y amount of gear". the cheats are no longer about winning, they're a business model. without RMT there is FAR less incentive to cheat

ban em all forever

[marble pond]

Weird how they all seem to have names that originate from a specific region in the world

[slim scroll]

you are looking at it the wrong way. the end result of all of this rmt business is a lively server or at least the illusion of one. that is beneficial for this game to keep on surviving. you understanf now why there are no hardware bans?

[marble pond]

Such a coincidence

[gaunt oracle]

WarWar the cheating and RMT apologist. check his hard drive.

[marble pond]

You realise pretty much the entire Australian player base quit because our server is overrun with the zhaoxings

[winged citrus]

US west too.

[marble pond]

So no, it's not good for the game

[winged citrus]

and EU servers

[gaunt oracle]

people are quitting the game because of the amount of cheating and teaming going on. the cheating and teaming happens because gear is valuable. so valuable people will pay real money for it. you're defending the snake eating itself by saying its getting good protein. fuck off

[winged citrus]

CN players playing every other server but their servers. cheaters don't care if they lag 🙂

[slim scroll]

omg i am not defending anything focus my friend. i am explaining to you why there are no hardware bans.

[marble pond]

There's no hardware bans because they're useless. Isn't hard to spoof

[wicked berry]

Hey, I see you guys are talking about RMT and apparently that is what I was banned for earlier today, I started to play yesterday with my friends and I was doing some adventure mode today on the maelstrom map and after a while I took a break came back and I was banned for " Gold Coin ". Is it normal to get banned even when just playing the game without even doing anything? does things like this ever happen? I like just start to play completely new to the game 😮 anyone mind helping me contacting a admin or anything please if possible?

[supple drift]

I am.. a ninja~ hiyah~

[marble pond]

It is when you're buying gold yeah

[winged citrus]

were u actually in the game or were u unable to queue up.

[long mantle]

Eta on wipe.

[slim scroll]

they are not useless at all.

[wicked berry]

I was in the game on Adventure mode playing the maelstrom map then I took a break and I left the game open then came back for a que solo and I was banned for Gold coin

[winged citrus]

you weren't banned then if u were still ingame

you prolly had gold coins or a pouch on you with coins in it.

[granite lark]

Always has been elf

[wicked berry]

Yea I bought 2 pouches I been farming and stored coins in them

[winged citrus]

if u were actually banned u wouldn't even be able to get to the lobby.

[marble pond]

They literally are...they just HWID spoof and make a new account and they're back playing

[gaunt oracle]

thats not a ban, its telling you that you can't enter the dungeon with gold coins on you

[winged citrus]

yeah gotta put the coins away in stash when u q.

[gaunt oracle]

no gold coins or gold storage device can enter the dungeon on adventure mode. get those items out of your inventory and into your stash 🙂

[wicked berry]

Oh wait let me check in that case you might be right I hope so at least !!

[winged citrus]

you SHOULD be able to queue with a empty pouch but i haven't tried that in forever.

[wicked berry]

Can I send a picture to anyone of you to just show how my screen looks like please?

[granite lark]

U cannot

[marble pond]

Still cant

[gaunt oracle]

nah it doesnt let you. gotta find a new one on a skelly corpse in dungeon

[wicked berry]

Or can I share a picture of my screen in here somewhere

[winged citrus]

Unforunate hes still hasn't fixed that bug.

[granite lark]

@wicked berry can you select dungeons and press play?

[gaunt oracle]

pm it to me, but first try putting your gold and gold pouches into your stash (not your character's inventory space) and then queue. you should be fine

[wicked berry]

Okay I just put the rest of the gold in the stash, I will try to sell the rest and try again

[winged citrus]

the fact ur able to get into the game means ur not banned.

[supple drift]

how is riposte of rapier? is it same parry power as other or is it a bit weaker?

[granite lark]

You can't que with items in your inventory above the Lobby/Game mode limit. Gold coin is allowed into no lobbies

[winged citrus]

if u were actually banned from the game you would first be stuck entirely on the loading screen and 2nd it would specficiy exactly what u were banned for with a duration i'm sure ur fine.

[marble pond]

I'm pretty sure this game is rated M 17+

[wicked berry]

I got my help I was just stupid hehe thanks Ape 😄

[gaunt oracle]

I love that there are still new players coming to the game and having fun in the PVE modes

still hope

[marble pond]

PVE mode is bad for the game though

[gaunt oracle]

lol right. game was super thriving without it

[kind cave]

Yo, speaking of, what's the Pve Hotspot map? My que times are pretty Lackluster

[winged citrus]

PvE mode is a good counter balance for dogwater quest design

i wouldn't even bother questing at all if it wasn't for pve mode because of how terrible the quests are designed.

[marble pond]

What difference does it make to quests whether you're on pvp or pve

[gaunt oracle]

ruins is best, then GC, then ice, then wayyy down below the earth's surface, water map

as far as queue times in PVE norms go anyway

[winged citrus]

The difference is when a quest hits me with i need to go to 3rd level of hell kill one of each sub boss then it requires me to extract and also ALL in the same run.

Plenty of difference between only dying to my mistakes and getting fucked in pvp.

[gaunt oracle]

I wish more people in PVE norms gave the water map a try. Its SO good in pve modes

my fav map by a country mile

[winged citrus]

and thats just one of the many many many horribly designed quests for this game.

[marble pond]

Water map is my fave for farming

[winged citrus]

so many quests with insanely low drop rate % items that don't increase in pvp mode but do increase in pve.

[gaunt oracle]

100% the loot is juiced

[marble pond]

So many hoards

[gaunt oracle]

and tidewalkers all carry 2 treasures. little loot pinatas

[drifting scaffold]

wut pve hunting loot is much lower

[winged citrus]

blue+ quest items yeah but the green/lower have higher drop chances

prime example is the 45 kobolds ears needed.

[drifting scaffold]

no they don’t the literal roll for hunting loot is decreased

rarity is separate roll than hunting loot slot

[winged citrus]

Quest items have increased drop rate.

[drifting scaffold]

It’s like getting xtra treasure from a chest it doesn’t always happen

[gaunt oracle]

pve questing can be a strugglebus. lower drop chance, higher chance of someone with more interaction speed just TAKING your stuff. its still my preferred mode for fun and getting rich

[winged citrus]

i got 45 koblod ears in about 2 pve ice caverns game vs almost a entire week worth of qing atleast 4~ hours worth of ice caverns in norms

[drifting scaffold]

I don’t believe you lol I think you farmed it easier because you could kill and loot every kobold. in normal rounds where I do loot I get ears, bracelets, and bowstring from almost every one

[tulip isle]

Hr duos/trios most fun and most money

[river fern]

is the game still worth playing? last time i remember it being good was like in season 4/5

[drifting scaffold]

not to mention skeletons with their skulls and bread and bowstring, it’s so common in pvp mode for one to drop

[winged citrus]

Whatever u say i dont really care.

[gaunt oracle]

I do it PVE HR solo or duo on water map. loot gets tight in a trio if you dont cover alot of ground, and I prefer water map. not the fastest to traverse

[tulip isle]

I meant non pve, just looting is boring ;p

[hardy bobcat]

we still on the level of letting this dookie game die?

[gaunt oracle]

idk man, stingray and bladehand are pretty fun

[prime pollen]

at least we still have more players than starfield. maybe not for long but

[shrewd plume]

Yes

[keen zephyr]

Try it out! Only you can make a decision for yourself if the game is good

[dreamy vine]

Opposite

[regal badge]

whats the fastest action speed u can have on a longsword?

[celest spear]

anyone know how to fix low fps on watermap after the new engine update?

[gaunt oracle]

switch to dx11 til the next update

I've heard it helps a bit

[worn rain]

It's better to try both dx11 and 12 and choose the better one. Do I need to restart the game to set these?🧐

[oak sandal]

You're not the only one, I love it for making money on my bard.

[worn rain]

Yeah, the ocean map is awesome. I literally found every new item in the ocean except for one.

[gaunt oracle]

which one are you missing? I'm still finding new random stuff I had never seen. very fun

I've been building my cooking utensils and spice hoard for the gumbo chef cosplay, just for funsies. I got the herb pouch and the bronze ladle 🙂

[brave minnow]

when is the next wipe?

[graceful dagger]

next year

[visual swallow]

[worn rain]

The only item I haven't found is a saddle, which is supposedly in the captain's key room. It's so much fun to collect items we've never found before. I can't wait for personal homes to be implemented

[visual swallow]

[gaunt oracle]

oo yeah tough find. I rarely find keys in HR and don't run them in norms. It'll be a long time before I find a saddle haha

[winged citrus]

tbh i wish they'd bring back force region. I'd rather play us east servers again with a lil lag then deal with the teaming CNers on us west.

same just 2-3 guys in each ruins HR game teaming to kill boss hit pile and go

[worn rain]

I think so, bro. I'll practice Stingray next time!

[supple drift]

I like cutlass

[true kestrel]

why can i not pick what squires to riches map i want with my friends, let the last 5k people play how they want

[topaz gull]

REMOVE THE WATERMAP FROM RANDOME Q. I hate this map. NoT GOOD. noot good. not good.
I have a water fobia and i can´t play or see this map. PVP trash, Design trash, Mobs trash. PVP-Mapdesign TRASH
ADDS more Q to game.
EVERYONE HATE WATER

WHY IS THIS MAP IN THE GAME

[supple drift]

i like water map, but... the lag is unbearable.

[deft copper]

Are artifacts going to be allowed in the special event

[deft copper]

50 to 60 with fulgor

[faint jetty]

Dear SDF,

It is now December 15th, meaning we are 10 days away from Christmas. It would be nice if you could spend some time changing the code for the game so that instead of candy corn, we have candy cane. This would help us get into the festive mood, and make us hold the line even stronger!

Thanks,

gurt

[marble pond]

1st world problems

[tidal jay]

@rotund belfry

[topaz gull]

i don´t have a problem to get rekt by named items in arena

[cerulean tinsel]

Have the Devs just forgotten about this game lmao surely we should of had a wipe by now

[pastel elm]

im confused what does changing arena gear to purples only effect other than forcing everyone to do the quests?

[cerulean tinsel]

Can't believe y'all still playing this fr

[gaunt oracle]

ore sales were down, had to increase profi- I mean... rejuvenate the market

[pastel elm]

sorry to break it to you, dont think wipe is any time soon. They are just now starting a new arena season this weekend

[delicate ibex]

They’ve never timed a wipe for useful holiday and they aren’t about to start now.

[cerulean tinsel]

Wtf bruh I hit demigod so long ago and haven't played the game since cause it's stale as hell right now, why TF we starting a new arena season 3 months into the normal one

Can safely say after loving this game for almost 3k hours, it's got like 12-15 months left of having enough players to still operate, game will be absolutely dead in the next year if we don't get some big changes

[blissful swan]

is this game like fully infested by esp users ?

[cerulean tinsel]

Got almost 3k hours and think I've been killed by like 5 cheaters total

[marble pond]

obviously never played on the oceanic server

[drowsy elbow]

shit hr is so dead i wish everyone had esp, atleast we'd be able to fight something other then skeletons

[marble pond]

was a time where every ruins game had like 5+ chinese guys standing outside that hoard under the bridge using hacks to loot it through the wall without key lel

[cerulean tinsel]

Nope that's where I'm from, dealt with alot of teamers but never really any hackers

[blissful swan]

i mean actual hackers using like unplayable cheats i've encountert like 2, but esp i think alot of ppl use because its something someone is not actually beeing able to confirm that they use esp

[cerulean tinsel]

What makes you think they are esp?

[marble pond]

if you play rogue you notice it a lot more

[blissful swan]

but if i see a random barb level 26 and also beeing fame 26 having the name kee211 randomly vanish at crypts bride and suddenly appear at the most random spot far away when i kill someone just to third party

[cerulean tinsel]

Top 200 rogue 2 wipes ago

[marble pond]

theyll come into your module while youre already invis and beeline to you for a headshot

[marble pond]

Didnt happen to you so it doesnt exist, one of those types

what server you play

[cerulean tinsel]

Never said they but okay?

[blissful swan]

euw

im aware of the whole rmt guys in eu but i looked up esp and there are plenty to get on several sites, its disturbing

[marble pond]

way more people would use than people realise

[blissful swan]

ik ik i kinda figured, its so cringe man

[cerulean tinsel]

You probably sit in the most common rogue spots, in a room with all its doors shut and dead mobs, the amount of times other rogues have called cheats on me because right away I check all the rat spots when entering a suspiciously empty room

[blissful swan]

i agree some spots are often checked because its common already

[marble pond]

its 1 thing to check all the rat spots swinging and shit. but beelining from 1 side of the module to another and swinging a headshot on a random spot

its obvious when its esp and when its bad positioning and making noise beforehand etc

[cerulean tinsel]

Skill diffs are alot more common than hackers in my experience and I play with 4 other people all with roughly 3k hours and we only play oce, the amount of hackers I've encountered is miniscule

[cerulean tinsel]

Not saying it definitely doesn't happen but the way you talk about it 6/10 people are hacking, and it's just not very common, especially now since the games basically dead

[marble pond]

You must be new then. Like i said a while back there was 5+ chinese every game on ruins looting the hoard through the wall. literally undeniable lol

[cerulean tinsel]

Wasn't that literally just because you could access that pile through the mesh? Thats not hacking

[visual swallow]

the people that say they've played 3k hours and never seen a cheater are just insane lol. I used to get 4 or 5 ban cconfirmations a night

[cerulean tinsel]

And even if that did happen, that does not mean that all your matches are filled with cheaters like y'all try so hard to imply, your just bad

[cerulean tinsel]

So do I, all for teaming

[visual swallow]

I don't play solos, I've never reported someone for teaming

the extended range cheats and literal immortality cheats are more rare now, but ESP is still plenty common

[cerulean tinsel]

Well then I simply don't believe you, there is zero way I've played for years and your encountering as many cheaters in a day as I have in 2900 hours, your just bad like half this player base and need any excuse as to why you lost other than skill

[visual swallow]

you can not believe it all you want lol

[marble pond]

no they had a hack called long neck

they could interact with anything through walls

[cerulean tinsel]

Funny how y'all be out here swearing ever match is filled to the brim with hackers but still go play it every day 😭😂😭😂

[visual swallow]

you're either blind or lying about your hours (or just leave your game on like many others) if you've never been killed by a falchion in one hit from 20 meters away

[cerulean tinsel]

I have, maybe like twice, and a damn long time since I be been killed by range hacks

[visual swallow]

the extra range cheats were super common

[dreamy vine]

Back in the day falcion was op

[cerulean tinsel]

Haven't been killed by ranged hacks since before they removed the pre game lobby

[visual swallow]

back when the game was poppin I'd legit get 4+ ban confirmations a night, shit was rampant

[marble pond]

No one said every match

[neon kite]

@cerulean tinsel people are cheating and if you don’t think so . You’re either on a dead server or you can’t tell when they are . I gotta high enforcer rating they are definitely here still.

[visual swallow]

esp is still very common

[neon kite]

@marble pond you are right bro . They are still out here

[marble pond]

But every game on OCE HR, especially ocean map, has multiple gold farmers and a lot of them do use things like esp lol

[cerulean tinsel]

Literally started this conversation by saying there definitely is cheaters but it isn't anywhere near as much as it's cracked up to be, but you people just seem to of ignored that part

[neon kite]

I just jumped in the conversation so yeah I didn’t jump back 4 texts

[marble pond]

No its worse than people think. Its just less obvious than it used to be because they cracked down a bit with the anticheat

and some hacks that worked back then dont work now

[visual swallow]

it's just much harder to tell if someone is esping vs ok that guy one-tapped me from across the room

[cerulean tinsel]

Don't expect much more of a thought process from people who spend all day complaining about a game in the discord, then get right back in their cuuk chair to play it the next hour 😂😂😂😂

[visual swallow]

but it's pretty common for the entire lobby to converge on a single edge tile all at the same time and it's pretty weird and some of them are for sure esping

[cerulean tinsel]

If all the people like y'all who swore this game was garbage and infested with cheaters would just stop playing maybe this Garbo game could die out already 😂

[neon kite]

Imagine having a conversation and having to get to insulting people to win

[marble pond]

who here is saying the game is garbage? youre so disingenuous lol, only one being salty right now is you

[neon kite]

He’s mad for sure about something

[marble pond]

Maybe hes one of the hackers feeling exposed 😛

[neon kite]

Wouldn’t surprise me but most of them don’t talk so I doubt it . Just another random in a games discord that he doesn’t play 😭😭 sad ash

[cerulean tinsel]

How is that whatsoever weird, less than 100 hours you probably know where the other players spawn, add in the fact that if I see someone die to a mob that only spawns in a certain part of the map I now know where they died, idk how everyone rushing spawns makes you think esp when that's what anyone does who isn't still struggling to fight mobs 😂

[visual swallow]

oh they talk, every ban wave there's dozens of them in here whining

[visual swallow]

it's the timing as well as the position

[neon kite]

He’s definitely one of them yall right 😭🤣🫵🏻

[cerulean tinsel]

Your absolutely mental if you think that it's worse than it was 😂😂😂😂

[visual swallow]

every edge tile has a spawn but 5 or more teams all rush the same edge tile, it's not luck lol

[marble pond]

Rushing spawns isnt indicative of ESP lol. only way you can really tell for sure if someone is using ESP is as a rogue with good placement invis and watching them know your exact movements

but plenty would intentionally make it less obvious and you cant know for sure

[cerulean tinsel]

Nah the other teams probably just been running the whole map Tryna find where the fights are at, it's not like you need to actually clear the mobs to move across the map

[cerulean tinsel]

Definately not a cheater, spent to much money on this dumpster fire unfortunately

[neon kite]

So then you gotta be mental if you think no one is cheating

[marble pond]

why you here then if its a dumpster fire

[visual swallow]

ya that's my team lol, we're looking at 12 names in the kill feed trying to find the action and we end up finding a pile of dead bodies in the corner of the map 3 minutes in, it's esp

[cerulean tinsel]

Are you legally blind?

[neon kite]

Yes

[cerulean tinsel]

Show me where I said nobody is cheating? Oh that's right you can't because I said there was cheaters, just that it wasn't half of every lobby like some people try to say, how much do you lack in simple reading comprehension

[visual swallow]

check all the hot spots, graveyard undisturbed, bridge undisturbed, all tiles around bridge undisturbed, 12 dead bodies in a corner tile less than 1/4 of the timer gone

know the spawns bruh kek

[cerulean tinsel]

Because I was hoping they would fix the game like half of the player base did? And when they didn't I stopped playing?

[neon kite]

Nah you just think people rushing across the whole map because of “spawns” isn’t cheating and are trying to come up with dumb rebuttals to excuse why it isn’t cheating . Your just a peanut brain and don’t understand English

Bro a peanut brained fool for sure

[cerulean tinsel]

I mean let's be so fr it's ruins broskii, every match I play the everyones either fighting cemetery or bridge, wever had how many wipes for players to develop and recognise these patterns?

[visual swallow]

if it was happening on bridge it wouldn't be weird

[neon kite]

Bro hasn’t played in 4 wipes you gotta excuse him @visual swallow

[cerulean tinsel]

Brother the good players have been spawn rushing across map since we could see the juicy gear in pre match lobbies

[neon kite]

He doesn’t know what’s going on he’s out of the gameplay loop rn just complaining

[cerulean tinsel]

Demigod current season just haven't played since a week and a half in

[cerulean tinsel]

Like actually spawn rushing across map has been the only strategy for a long time if you want to boss without rats

[visual swallow]

spawn rushing in those lobbies was done by cheaters lmao

[neon kite]

Yes there is spawn rushing . It’s different from running across the whole map and knowing EXACTLY which room and when and where they are with no signs .

[visual swallow]

you could spectate the entire lobby after you died

[cerulean tinsel]

How was it lmao? You people are acting like spawn rushing is hard?

[visual swallow]

holy god

[neon kite]

Because there are signs bro . Read what we been saying.

[visual swallow]

[cerulean tinsel]

You just sound bad icl

[visual swallow]

you sound like you leave your game on to brag about hours

[neon kite]

If you think people aren’t cheating for 10$ you might be crazy or negligent to what’s happening in the game right now

[cerulean tinsel]

Again your slow I never said there was no cheaters just it isn't half of every lobby your in like you keep trying to imply

And it's DEFINITELY not worse than it's ever been like that other guy tried to say

[neon kite]

Sure. I guess you’re right .

High enforcer rating getting people banned left and right and it isn’t high but hey to each their own

[cerulean tinsel]

Can already tell you die to nightmare skeletons 😭😂

[neon kite]

lol ok

Gl with the cheating noob

[cerulean tinsel]

If the games so infested with cheaters like you say why y'all still playing it 😂

[cerulean tinsel]

Bro thinks I'm cheating 💀

[visual swallow]

if I didn't play games with cheaters I just wouldn't play any game lol

[neon kite]

I die to nightmare skeletons don’t ask me

[cerulean tinsel]

Nah but I definately don't play games where every lobby is filled with them like is being implied

[visual swallow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous tulip]

Im just here for the drama.

[neon kite]

You can still kill cheaters . Ohh waiti you haven’t cus you suxk 🫵🏻🫵🏻💀

[cerulean tinsel]

Cringe

[zealous tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/lilnouns-nouns-lil-nouns-dao-noggles-gif-27131043

[cerulean tinsel]

Bros hard stuck wanderer dying to thanos

[neon kite]

Thanks for killing chat noob

[cerulean tinsel]

Killing chat lmaooooo

[neon kite]

THANKS FOR KILLING CHAT NOOB

[cerulean tinsel]

Sorry I ruined your only opportunity to socialise 🥀

[neon kite]

THANKS FOR KILLING CHAT SCRUB

[zealous tulip]

Where else would we socialize? This is prime socializing.

[cerulean tinsel]

TRUE!

[neon kite]

EVERYBODY SAY IT WITH ME

[cerulean tinsel]

THANKS FOR KILLING CHAT SCRUB

[neon kite]

THANKS FOR KILLING CHAT SCRUB

YUHHHHHH

[zealous tulip]

Thanks for killing chat scrub. Lol.

[cerulean tinsel]

This is fun

[neon kite]

Kk I’m done cya gl with the cheaters

[cerulean tinsel]

Icl tho chat was pretty dead already lmao

[neon kite]

Nah I’m just playing there are cheaters going crazy rn tho

[cerulean tinsel]

I don't have this garbage installed lmao I don't have to deal with all these "cheaters"

[neon kite]

I can promise 1/10 is a Chinese farming scrub dub

[cerulean tinsel]

Oh I play oce 9/10 is a Chinese gold farmer

But they just be teaming most of the time not hacking

[neon kite]

I kill then though they all suck . And once you kill them the random homie that’s non geared comes in and tries to finish you up

[cerulean tinsel]

Hopefully they will announce the ranked rewards sometime in the next 6 months 💀

[neon kite]

Man ….

See I like the game but I don’t know if sdf can recover

[brittle ginkgo]

Game still bad?

[neon kite]

Sdf still bad that’s all

[subtle mauve]

wouldn't be suprised if next patch is christmas stuff and ranked rewards

[cerulean tinsel]

I've been one of the biggest supporters of this game for so long, but after this wipe it's finally run its course for me, I've put in almost 3k hours, but in its current state/direction I don't see myself ever enjoying this game again

Which is sad cause there really isn't anything out there currently to replace dark and darker

[neon kite]

You gotta take a long break . I felt the same . Till I stopped caring and tried new things to enjoy about it.

[cerulean tinsel]

I did that, motherboard blew up and I was no computer for like 9 months, came back enjoyed the start of this wipe but it just got stale again so quickly when I realised every fight still ends with move speed being the only deciding factor

[neon kite]

Start using a sword and shield shit claps almost all

[whole tinsel]

sooo whens the game stuttering/freezing bug fix coming out

[cerulean tinsel]

And it sounds dumb but imo something need to be done about doors, I shouldn't be out playing people just for them to run away through 15 doors and never be seen again

[cerulean tinsel]

I'm actually a rare sword and shield main 😂😂

[neon kite]

That shit is peak and longsword

W the shield bash boy I be fucking then up

[cerulean tinsel]

I started with ls, and moved back and forth between them, my only issue with shield is how with movement speed being the deciding factor, unless someone misplays, or over commits you just don't kill them

Not to mention the desync makes it a 50/50 to weather I blocked or lost half my HP in one hit

[wild brook]

Nah make it a channel to open gate instead of just diving down reds anytime theres trouble

[cerulean tinsel]

1000000%

[neon kite]

I haven’t had that issue too much I usually block tf outta them

[wild brook]

Then make it only 1 red so you have to fight over it to go down, its a privilege

[visual swallow]

there's already no one down there lol

[cerulean tinsel]

I quit after out playing 3 people with artifacts and then them just turning around running through god knows how many doors and through blues or reds, it just doesn't feel good or fun to have to build max ms on every kit or just have 0 chance of killing without an over commit or huge misplays from the enemy

I'll come back to claim my ranked rewards and maybe check out the new stuff (if any) when they wipe but unless something big changes I can't see the game lasting much longer than 12 months

[neon kite]

With the lawsuit handled I think they will pop out imo.

It’s either that or they want the game dead 🤷‍♂️

[cerulean tinsel]

Unfortunately I really don't think that's going to change they way they do things at all

[neon kite]

My thought process is HOPE they have enough stress off them to be able to actually produce some shxt worth playing . I agree with you though hope is low.

[cerulean tinsel]

The lawsuit has nothing to do with them flip flopping balancing every patch and having 0 clue what direction they want the game to go in

[neon kite]

Who knows bro sdf may have been shaking in his boots for awhile

[cerulean tinsel]

I hope so but unfortunately I think this is just an example of what happens when a dev studio with basically zero experience tries to make a hardcore multiplayer, much more accomplished studios fail at it all the time

[neon kite]

Only time will tell 😈

[zealous tulip]

I really.rhink they about to show out with the game now that they don't have a looming lawsuit.

[cerulean tinsel]

That is true, I truely want this game to succeed cause as I said, I been here since the start and have put alot of time in

[neon kite]

No other game like it

[cerulean tinsel]

See I want to think that but the lawsuit has had zero reason too make them choose the decisions they have made

[neon kite]

I’m just hoping sdf doesn’t prove everyone right

[cerulean tinsel]

Like being in a lawsuits has nothing to do with making changes to your game and then backtracking it again every few months

[zealous tulip]

In my mind, why would you put a lot of effort into something that could've been lost..

[cerulean tinsel]

Whish is this games biggest problem hands down

[neon kite]

Having nexon after you gotta hurt the brain a little

[cerulean tinsel]

But they were putting in the effort is my point, it's just they have 0 idea what direction they want for the game

[neon kite]

Maybe they weren’t putting forth their best effort .

[cerulean tinsel]

Until they stop making huge changes only to revert them months later the game will continue dying and unfortunately I don't think the lawsuit had any impact on that

[neon kite]

Nah Ik the lab training was a big issue of why everyone quit

[cerulean tinsel]

Nice wishful thinking but as someone who's been here since the start, I can tell you right now, the lawsuit has very little to do with the decisions that have brought this game down to where it is

[wild brook]

I agree they are inexperienced developers

[zealous tulip]

We shall see, I guess.

Hopefully, it isn't a space map.

[cerulean tinsel]

We might get an increase in content, but I don't expect an increase in quality or for sdf to all of a sudden figure out the direction for his game

[wild brook]

pandering to the PVE crowd waaay too much, now we have 1 hundred queues for 3k players, killing the pvp

[neon kite]

I been here from the start of the start . Still have hope because it’s a game I fell in love with . Even now I still enjoy it.

[cerulean tinsel]

Agreed 100% some people just need to realise that if the PvP is too much for them maybe it's just not the game for them

[neon kite]

Only time will tell

[wild brook]

How bloody easy would it be to just do random stuff like 1v1 fist fight arena only for the weekend, random fun shit

release a new perk and ability every week

[neon kite]

I mean the dnd app on phone has 1v1arena mode 🤣😭

[wild brook]

release a new weapon every month

[zealous tulip]

I love the dnd mobile version.

[cerulean tinsel]

Unfortunately I just don't think they care remotely about their player base, and I won't lie I was kinda hoping nexom was going to win and take over dark and darker 😂

[wild brook]

steal ideas from arc raiders, have red areas that have higher loot

[cerulean tinsel]

There's a mobile version 🤮🤮🤮

[wild brook]

delayed escapes

[twilit fractal]

imagine a Maplestory/dark and darker cross over

[neon kite]

Mobile version bis if you don’t gotta pc

[zealous tulip]

Nexon would have killed the game faster than the makers.

[neon kite]

Oof 😅

[cerulean tinsel]

What makes you say that?

[wild brook]

make it so you dont need to travel around half the map to find a revive that can only be used once and you need to memorise every location

[cerulean tinsel]

Their other games seem to be doing alot better than dark and darker 😂😂😂😂😂

[wild brook]

just get your team mate up but it takes 45 seconds