the-tavern

[drifting scaffold]

of course, as only a monk could

[lofty pilot]

Awesome sounds like my new main

[woven widget]

I mean, graysun wouldnt mind helping you experience the new perk before release

[sterile star]

why does ranger get to be faster then me do more dmg then me from ranged and melee and be tankier then me

[drifting scaffold]

hes not tankier* just headshot him

[sterile star]

he is bro with or without a spear u close the gap just for him to be as effective close range and long range an they have backstep and shotgun

[drifting scaffold]

no they deal a lot of damage but they really aren't tanky, they're in leather maximum armor

most don't use leather tho they're in cloth

[sterile star]

they get to build 45% pdr while having 315 ms and doing more dmg with a rapier than i do with 40% pwr boc lock ranged class btw

same class that gets to hit u in the knee from across the map and do half ur hp

[drifting scaffold]

bro no way they're at 45% pdr that's insanity

[sterile star]

yeah they are bro and theyre just as effective in melee as ranged

warden outfit heavy leathers heavy boots

[solemn coral]

fuck man lich 3 times in a row when i need warlord :l

[sterile star]

longbow genuinely hits gharder then then every other weapon in the game and its so fucking easy

[atomic schooner]

warmaul go bonk

[lone orbit]

when is the season ending ?

or when did it start and how long does it last?

[trim idol]

they ever give an explanation as to why arena isnt always available?

[daring mortar]

lobbies would be dead in dungeon.

[trim idol]

games alr basically dead no reason not to keep it open, i believe player retention would be much higher

[leaden canyon]

Hi! Is it impossible for the ‘Smooth Tidal Leather Pants’ to roll the Ingenuity stat?
I can’t find any listings, and I’ve been trying myself but it never seems to appear.

(help me )

[daring mortar]

they dont care about the game anymore, its just a cash grab for them.

[trim idol]

yea

i guess, its just really annoyinh

[leaden canyon]

Does the Ingenuity stat just not roll at all?

[balmy glade]

wtf is the ingenuity stat

[trim idol]

im kinda slow can we explain this to me like im 5 years old

[leaden canyon]

Sorry, I’m Korean so my English isn’t native-level. Thanks for understanding.
There’s an item called ‘Smooth Tidal Pants’ that can be crafted from the Leatherworker vendor, and I was just wondering if the Ingenuity stat simply cannot roll on that item at all. That’s why I asked.

[trim idol]

yea idk dawg

[leaden canyon]

ok thx!!!

[vernal marten]

just played ONE HR game... got the water map... yeahhhh im getting off..

[trim idol]

its so ass

[balmy glade]

by ingenuity do you mean the stat that increases memory capacity and spellcasting speed?

[vernal marten]

thats easier... if youre korean they for real just allow you guys to cheat. they wont ban you given the game is dying anyways

[slate hawk]

Let's stay respectful and avoid generalizing 😄

[balmy glade]

[rustic jay]

when is dark wiping?

[balmy glade]

im wiping tmrw at 7pm

[trim idol]

they js need to do smt good for the game to get players back into it

[daring mortar]

tell them to fix their game

[leaden canyon]

Yeah, I mean the Ingenuity stat that reduces skill cooldown

[vernal marten]

cant becuase then he will lose his warden status lol and then he will lose all his discord kittens

[trim idol]

balright

[leaden canyon]

Haha, even if I’m frustrated with Dark and Darker, I still don’t want to use cheats…
It’s kind of a love–hate relationship, you know?

[slate hawk]

We're just moderators. Our voice carries little more than yours in regards to development of the game. If you have constructive ideas and suggestions, you can always make them in https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/. That's what I do. And I hope.

[vernal marten]

yeah i started playing arc raiders and havent thought about this game XD i come back ever so often to play one game... my game today i instantly got water map so i got off

[balmy glade]

oh resourcefulness, it should be able to roll on them but theres none on market. i guess people are buying them all up

[vernal marten]

Suggested by: <Hidden> (17 Aug, '23) #1 upvoted and it was posted 2 years ago haha yeah like they listen to that page

[leaden canyon]

Honestly, when I queue High Roller and get the water map, my mood just drops instantly…
I didn’t even do anything yet, but just getting that map already ruins the vibe.
I get you.

[balmy glade]

if they removed random hr maps the game would have so many more people

[leaden canyon]

Yeah, that must be it, huh? I was kinda frustrated thinking the stat just couldn’t appear at all…
Thanks for clearing that up!

[vernal marten]

yeah that happened to me just now XD went and sat at a campfire till the ship came. i got out and seen a rogue and ranger doing the same thing. sitting beside each other on a ship exiting becuase that map is TRASH

[leaden canyon]

Everywhere you go, it’s the same lol, so funny.
You get hyped playing, and then the water map totally kills your mood…
I wonder if they’ll ever patch it… not holding my breath though, haha.

[drifting scaffold]

water map is so lucrative and easy to escape I have no clue why anybody doesn’t like it

[trim idol]

u the reason they think the maps actually good

[drifting scaffold]

yeah bc I’ve played it enough to learn I gusss

[leaden canyon]

It’s just… something feels off, you know?
It’s kinda different from the usual Dark and Darker vibe.
Of course, I still farm a lot on the water map, but… it just feels like something’s missing.
That’s how I feel. Totally respect your take too!!

[balmy glade]

because the combat on the map is atrocious, and people want to actually dungeoncrawl in the dungeoncrawler instead of play subnautica

[drifting scaffold]

I like all the under water areas a lot, above water isn’t very fun

[balmy glade]

if i wanted to be a pirate i would be back on sot which has good water mechanics and water combat

[drifting scaffold]

it’s really not subnautica in any way. you’re delving into the dark but for totally different things

[drifting scaffold]

that’s crazy sea of thieves has neither of those. It has good ship combat

[trim idol]

i dont like the idea of a non "dungeon" in a dungeoncrawler

[atomic pivot]

agreed

[balmy glade]

it has all of those lmao

regardless they can keep the map but remove random hr maps, its so stupid and its why the games dying

[drifting scaffold]

what do you mean by this? like you prefer the walls between the modules?

[trim idol]

they currently cant, untill they make some decent changes and get some more people player their isnt enough players for individual ques

[balmy glade]

yes there is, because people will queue the maps they actually wanna play, crypts

the reason there isnt enough people is BECAUSE its random queue, ofc its gonna be slower but the community will be MUCH happier

[trim idol]

i belive their are much higher issues than that

[balmy glade]

its the biggest issue with the smallest solution

[drifting scaffold]

absolutely not the smallest solution

[trim idol]

its not black and white

[balmy glade]

how is it not the smallest solution??? they literally just have to revert a change they made to matchmaking.

[drifting scaffold]

because that makes massive problems. Look at the current season of money inflation. If you add back map queue with lower playerbase it makes getting the best loot in the game way too easy

[balmy glade]

nobody likes the random queue, every player i know would rather wait 5-10m for a game than play a map they dont enjoy.

[night crypt]

Hi folks, I'm seeking a nice group of people with whom play

[deep musk]

water map is hot garbage and doesnt belong in this game in any regard

[trim idol]

yeo

[drifting scaffold]

water map > ice map

[balmy glade]

uh wait for the lobby to have people instead of sending one person into a dungeon by themselves???

[trim idol]

the average player isnt gonna wait 10 min for ice map cuz aint no one playin that shit, same with water map.

[drifting scaffold]

5-10 min queue is insane nobody is waiting

[balmy glade]

then why are we being FORCED to play a map that nobody likes

[trim idol]

and crypt/ gc que will always be 5> min

[drifting scaffold]

crypt only sucks that’s boring

[balmy glade]

because those are actually good maps, theres a reason people like them

[trim idol]

so then the people that enjoy the buns maps arnt punished for being different

[drifting scaffold]

it’s comfort driven not quality. goblin caves has been exactly the same for months while the new modules surpass them entirely. Every corner of ruins is better than any goblin caves module

[balmy glade]

if nobody wants to queue water and ice maybe the problem isnt the queues maybe its the map

[deep musk]

ive said it once i'll say it a thousand times.
delete water map, ice map, bard, warlock, druid, sorceror

[trim idol]

this but only water map druid and sorc

[balmy glade]

[trim idol]

bard, lock and ice caves can stay

[balmy glade]

just delete the game atp they might as well with random hr maps

[modest echo]

How are we still complaining about Druid. It’s the worst class in the game easily

[dire lintel]

Heal druid still good in trios tho

[balmy glade]

uh...

healer druid is still absurdly broken, like its just better than healer cleric in every way.

[wind juniper]

anyone got any ingenuity gear

[trim idol]

brotha 😭 🥀

[balmy glade]

those who know

[lethal pond]

anyone know what the hell the mysterious potion is used for?

[sturdy tulip]

can anything revive this game at this point

[trim idol]

selling the rights to the game to a better team

[slow ivy]

It'll take a better producer with deep pockets.

[drifting scaffold]

Clueless

[sturdy tulip]

yay we have a new map, with the two most unfun bosses in the game and the slowest time to traverse the map

[balmy glade]

you can travel 7 modules faster than you can go top to bottom on crypts

[worthy shuttle]

the argument against specific map queues is invalid considering the same devs just keep adding more queues regardless

[sturdy tulip]

they found a new way to kill their game every wipe since druid

[worthy shuttle]

why do we need pve hr on top of normal pve on top of normals where u can queue solo/duo/trio and pick a map, only to have hr pvp where its randomized? wooww so many queues saved

[sturdy tulip]

devs were lobotomized the day druid was conceived in thought

[lavish mantle]

We'll getting pve for square to riches mode 100%

[worthy shuttle]

even streamers are hopeless, people hop on to play their favorite game to queue hr to not find any people, and 50% of the time u get ice/maelstorm, shits lame af

[lavish mantle]

Also pve for arena, don't forget that

[sturdy tulip]

we got normals (pve mode)
we got squire to riches (pve mode)
we got pve mode
we got hr pve mode
we got arena (pve mode)

[trim idol]

we got ironmace on pve mode

[sturdy tulip]

just fire everyone and chaulk the project at this point, game used to have so many passionate players. now getting someone to talk in gamechat is like trying to drown a fish

[worthy shuttle]

lets just remove the only fun and competitively addicting part of this game alltogether

[sturdy tulip]

not to mention the content creator cult that literally just became a snoozefest with graysun shitting all over everybody

[trim idol]

yea idk pve norms was good for the game all others is bad for the game tbh

[stiff wyvern]

Which servers/regions can I play in this game?

[sturdy tulip]

maybe in another timeline this game became one of the mainstream timeless timesinks

[trim idol]

problem is it had the chance and blew it

[worthy shuttle]

its not that hard to please this community

[sturdy tulip]

steam "free to play" release was the biggest flop marketing scam ive ever seen a company do

[worthy shuttle]

add quiver, focus on pvp, remove insta reds and blues, add map queues, remove all of these shitty pve queues

[trim idol]

during their highest peaks all they ever did was buffs/nerfs, no new content, bug fixes, or anything fun

[sturdy tulip]

"quiver guy quit the ironmace dev team"

[worthy shuttle]

revert to pre-druid era ✊

[trim idol]

i second this

[sturdy tulip]

i miss the days when warlock was the most annoying thing in the game, they took that style of annoyance and fanned it out to encompass every little corner of the game

[trim idol]

yall remember the train wreck that was patch 69?

[sturdy tulip]

fucking abysmal

[worthy shuttle]

we had something not that far from it not long ago

[sturdy tulip]

the vision

[trim idol]

hey its not his fault hes blind

[woven widget]

yall remember drinking water?
ever since the water wars that led to us all driving around in the desert on makeshift cars, Ive never drank any water

[sturdy tulip]

what a shitty excuse to ruin a great game

[trim idol]

pre game lobby 💔

[sturdy tulip]

remember when we were promised a replacement for this feature that encouraged social interactions in raid?

[trim idol]

i havent played this season (up untill a week ago)and i played very minimal last season

[trim idol]

dont remember any thing they promised, it was a false hope every time

[worthy shuttle]

u have Y to team up!! 👍

[white slate]

why do i keep forgetting how absolutely awful this game is?

[balmy glade]

ok cool just move on

[trim idol]

i dont think any real player has used this past the first week

[sturdy tulip]

🫃
🦵 🚽
teaming in raid was reportable and bannable for many many wipes

[worthy shuttle]

oh people used it, to windlass people in the face 🤣

[white slate]

like, is there a point to playing anything other than ranger or rogue in arena? every other class is just npc fodder for rangers and rogues

[trim idol]

barb w club is pretty good in arena too

[worthy shuttle]

pve arena when

[white slate]

yea barb is good too, but jfc rogues just decide to kill you and they get to without fail

[trim idol]

then u js have a really wea\k barb

[white slate]

and ranger w/ longbow can dome you for 1/2 health from spawn lol

[worthy shuttle]

its all good bro no quiver so its chill

[white slate]

i never get tilted losing to other classes, but rangers and rogues just feel bad

[white slate]

lol yea no loot in arena is the real drawback, buff ranger

[trim idol]

yall think they have ever used a community
suggestion ?

[worthy shuttle]

tbh i dont think ranger is that op like most people think, but cant deny its good

[white slate]

sort of, if by community you mean streamers

[trim idol]

no i mean the majority of the players that have actually good and useful suggestions

[white slate]

i think its just very strong in arena, its so easy to hit body shots and w/ a good longbow its so much health. They usually top out dmg chart

its like chip damage but the chip is a basketball sized chunk

and rogue can just ten step in most maps and get a pick w/ zero counter from all but maybe 2 classes. Its just making arena miserable

[trim idol]

dying to a rogue in arena after round 1 is js a team issue ngl

[balmy glade]

literally any class is good in arena lol, just dont be ass

[edgy glen]

Gotta have a team in arenas and not q random

[balmy glade]

just say you dont have ears or gamesense

[trim idol]

fighter is objectively not good in 3v3 scenarios, esspecialy with the high likly hood both teams have at least one caster

[balmy glade]

??? fighter is literally one of the best classes rn are you delulu

[trim idol]

for solos maybhe even duos but its the worst tank of the two

[balmy glade]

uh no, you literally have acess to longbows, you're a ranger that is also one of the strongest in a melee fight

and you can bodyguard your squishy while putting out ranged dps to protect them from getting pushed/dived

[trim idol]

surv bow woulda been better for ur argument, but regardless my point stands

[coarse star]

yeah all ranged classes are very good rn. but imo compared to some of the other ranged classes rn ranger isn't as bad

[sacred halo]

Will we ever have the chance not to play in a ranged meta?

[balmy glade]

fighter benefits from stacking phys power and a lot of plate armor has strength, you benefit the most from longbow

[coarse star]

probably not

[trim idol]

then all of that gbets taken away by a sinlge caster

[balmy glade]

no because you can easily get 50%+ mdr and pdr, why do people think fighter gets hard countered by casters lol

[feral kite]

How do I get unbanned from knights guild?

[worthy shuttle]

people watch vids like urs and think ranger op 🤣

[trim idol]

bro died to one fighter and now its the best class in game

[worthy shuttle]

i think ranged classes are the most fun in this game, the melee combat isnt complicated enough to hold up on its own

[balmy glade]

lmao stay delulu

[halcyon relic]

I wonder if we can have satan as an Inferno boss

[worthy shuttle]

i never play fighter but whenever i do i usually do very well so idk 🤷

[trim idol]

hit a nerve?

[willow lark]

dead game

[balmy glade]

no i dont die to fighters they're not my job lol

[trim idol]

?

[balmy glade]

i target squishes, i only go after a fighter if they've been poked first

[trim idol]

what u play?

[balmy glade]

rogue/ranger

[sacred halo]

I have the opposite impression. The meta range turns this game into just another fps, whereas melee combat allows you to dodge and parry hits and is much more difficult.

[trim idol]

that tracks

[balmy glade]

just say you're a timmy with no game sense 💔

[velvet briar]

Yo someone know where are shining pearls i kill 30clams never shining

[trim idol]

u gotta kill 67 of them for it

[mystic anvil]

Who did not want to buy my spellweaver 🙁

[velvet briar]

Ok nice only 37 to go ty

[verbal trench]

Druid players should ff irl

[mystic anvil]

Thanks for the reminder boss man ❤️‍🔥

[trim idol]

i though u had that face towards my comment twin sorry\

[mystic anvil]

Please be nice 😭 ❤️‍🔥

[trim idol]

[mystic anvil]

[feral kite]

Yo @mystic anvil how to i get unbanned from knights guild?

[daring mortar]

ugghhh imagine if dark and daker had a good lead dev.... that would be so cool.

[supple drift]

as a fighter, it depends on build and situation..

if i build pdr fighter, i would get flopped by spamming true phys ranger/bard or hit & run warlock.

if i build slayer fighter, i would get flopped by hard hitters. trying to figure out making a well-rounded build. so, that's my experience. probably i still suck 🤷‍♂️

Fighter feels like... it has everything, but not the best at something.

[mystic anvil]

Hello 🙂 !
You may message me with an in-depth appeal message and I may present it to the team for review 🙂

[cinder kiln]

do the devs care about hate speech? How do I report it arena doesnt have a way

[white slate]

fighter is heavily contingent on your comp and how well they play around you/how well you fill the frontline role. Like are you trying to do more than you should. In my experience frontline is best for creating angles for big damagers rather than scoring huge dmg yourself

[dull sun]

TURN ARENA TF BACK ON

[visual swallow]

xD

[dull sun]

trash ass game turning off pvp every wk. shit is so old

[steel forge]

game is dead just quit

[supple drift]

ah, i see. mine as solo fighter. in trio, i can see that. making a space for dmgers.

[balmy glade]

just close chat lmao

[vernal marten]

i hope the devs are reading this and getting sad because better games have come out and their playerbase is dying 🤣

[dire lintel]

Arc raiders

[obtuse harbor]

0/10 ragebait

[proven garden]

how do i change the max gear score on a dungen, I cant find the button to do it after the UI update

[visual swallow]

wut

[proven garden]

like i cant bring rare or anything higher into the dungen, how do i fix that?

[visual swallow]

you play HR

[proven garden]

but i dont want to, is there any way to not play HR and bring better gear, they use to have that

[visual swallow]

norms is capped at blue gear right now

[proven garden]

bru

[spring edge]

Are ranked rewards revealed yet

[vernal marten]

wasnt ragebait pal 🤓

[obtuse harbor]

anime 🤓

[vernal marten]

fortnite 🤓

and youre only tier 11 🤣 youre badddd

[obtuse harbor]

i dont play fortnite lmao, i make maps for little kids like you and make money.

[wind juniper]

skin reward is tylenol baby don’t miss out

[vernal marten]

not sure what that means bud i dont play fortnite

[spring edge]

I play fortnite 🔥 Unreal 1x and 1k wins check fortnite tracker ovmium

[white slate]

why does every rogue i find in lfg have an insufferable personality? lol its so consistent

[vernal marten]

they get it from repoze and retzi

[deft vault]

https://youtu.be/QNk-mOjTufE?si=RB7hd3zac-_2l5r6

[white slate]

so true. if you push back on their opinions on the game, they go in a full tism rage and start yelling over you before finally trying and failing to TK lmao. its happened multiple times

[wind juniper]

sounds more like todd and sparky than anyone else

[white slate]

whenever sparky opens his mouth its just one elongated whining noise

[wind juniper]

so real twin

[white slate]

sparky is so unplesant and so clearly having a horrible time idk what the appeal of watching is

[wind juniper]

it’s unfortunate cause he’s actually decently skilled

well idk actually half the time i see anything on him he’s rolling timmies like most content creator clips

[halcyon relic]

Hot take: Iron Mace should optimize this game because the blue maelstrom is sucking my ping out of this world

[lost plover]

I would actually love a few optimization patches

[stoic goblet]

can someone help with this failed to connect to server, quit the game. bug that my friends having, please weve tried everything

[nocturne scarab]

because they're not real rogues
most of us dont lfg because we prefer solo
idk

[valid topaz]

can we get an option to at least uncheck one of the maps in hr que im tired of ruins 90% of runs ffs

[pure lynx]

does anyone know when the wipe is?

[valid topaz]

late dec early jan

[pure lynx]

or how you tell when it is?

[quaint orchid]

🙁 with tarkov & arc raiders release, and all these other game relases, DnD numbers are slowly dwindling despite them having the most bad ass ocean updates and so much content. I hope there is some stable upwards growth.

[valid topaz]

i gave you the answer 3 months is a season

[pure lynx]

ty. slowmode was delaying my mesage

[timber orbit]

me too

[valid topaz]

making hr 90% 1 map is bull shit and needs fixed. no one wants to deal with random hr maps

[rancid marten]

Content? ❌
Constant disappointment? ✅

[timber orbit]

fr

[wind juniper]

under 3k on a weekend evening is this a new record for fastest falloff

[nocturne scarab]

dont worry map rotation will fix this

[wind juniper]

2026 gonna be a big year ooooh boy

[errant isle]

What are you hyped for?

[viscid ridge]

Is there anything I can do to reduce getting stuck jittering in the ground? Happens to me all the time and I just lost a full kit to PvE because of it...

[wind juniper]

nothing was just a joke that any meaningful update wouldn't come til next year

[errant isle]

Oh. Ok. I was hoping you'd share some cool new games that I never heard of and hype me up. Lol. It'll be interesting to see how this game goes over the next year.

[daring mortar]

it would be so cool if SDF was a good dev and he didnt kill player count

[trail arrow]

Hey chat what’s the most busted/unbalanced class rn

[median beacon]

how did they adjust the ice map in hotfix 99? they provided literally no details and i haven't noticed anything different myself

[wind juniper]

i've noticed mobs are easier to kill

specifically spearing kobolds

[median beacon]

yeah ur right actually i think. i noticed kobolds dying in one hit less on my rogue

great to know that the "big ice map" adjustment to make the map a little better was just reducing the enemy health by like 15%

[trail arrow]

I really like ice map and I know it all by the back of my hand.
They put more mobs, there’s more mobs than there was before they adjusted it.

[median beacon]

theres more mobs in the ice caves on patch 99 than before patch 99?

[trail arrow]

Yeah
Like one of the boat rooms used to have either a giant shield bearer or a giant berserker, now it has both
Could be a bug tho dunno

[covert finch]

any1 wanna do a stingray egg for a chest

[dreamy vine]

Its worth 10

[keen briar]

Is my game finally goated?

[wind juniper]

it finally is, log in fast before it goes away

[keen briar]

Yeah right, deceiver, this game is chopped. Is time finally pack it up, the next big thing is coming up

[timber orbit]

a lot of the new crafts look really good but i've just been too busy to play lately

[foggy nimbus]

why is everybody cheating in highroller with godmode

4 godmode cheaters in the same highroller lobby... wtf

[brazen kraken]

Yeah been playing since this game came out in alpha and won't be playing anymore, not until cheaters get fixed. God mode should never be a thing. 6 people total in two games, fully invincible.

[vivid creek]

how much is a spellweaver

[keen briar]

You got clips?

[brazen kraken]

Got the first one, gave up on even checking cause it pissed me off but I do have the link to that cheat they're using.

[keen briar]

send me in dm

[graceful wyvern]

100 dm coins sounds like a steal tbh

[slate hawk]

Discussing or advertising cheats/exploits/in-game services (including in-game carries) is forbidden including websites, servers or other platforms.

Instead, report the cheaters on the Ironmace website
For incidents that occurred in-game, including suspicions of cheating, teaming, RMT or inappropriate name, VoIP or behavior, please use the in-game reporting system on the Dark and Darker website, providing as much evidence as possible, such as a video recording or screenshot. You may access this easily from in-game by pressing Escape > SUPPORT > Report a player. This will open a new browser tab where you can report inappropriate players.

[wind juniper]

yeah that was a super low ball, considering troll hide is like 30 something it would be like 700

i always find it curious how seriously they enforce these silly rules, i think i'd actually feel insane doing it genuinely

[keen briar]

I wanted to see the clip not the site

[timber orbit]

are they uh, talking about PVE HR?

[little flume]

What's the online player difference these days when arena is up vs closed, is it about 50%?

[vital haven]

Hi everyone. I've been playing Dark and Darker for a long time. After returning, I discovered it was removed from Epic Games, and I couldn't transfer my account until November 1st. Can support help me? I've lost my account and legendary status?

[brazen kraken]

Unless it glitched us into a PVE lobby, which would make sense if it was, I'm not certain. We were fighting a few crews the match before it and didnt' change anything but it has been exceptionally buggy lately.

[slate hawk]

Contact the Ironmace support. I think the transfer was only possible until early November and not anymore, but I might be wrong.

[vital haven]

Yes, it says until November 1st. Only the "Legendary" status is linked to my account, and if I don't transfer it, the game I purchased will no longer be mine. That would be completely absurd. Was I supposed to keep up with the game's news for the past few years to avoid losing the game I paid for? I hope tech support can resolve this issue.

[timber orbit]

you were also emailed about it, but there's no harm in seeing if they can do anything about it.

[vital haven]

I didn't receive anything in my email, I just checked.

[timber orbit]

yeah, i had wires crossed and was thinking of chaf games. my fault

[robust rampart]

🪈 🎵 ↓🎵↑ 🎵 🎵 🎵 ↓~
🪈 🎵 ↓🎵↑ 🎵 🎵 🎵 ↓~

[rigid tide]

can we pleeeeeeeease ask for no water map in SvR, that map is ass ❤️

[sick hatch]

is this real? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104481437434007704/1439481606992691232/image.png?ex=691b55f7&is=691a0477&hm=bc7d425a736d51c5c1c47946c74498e9098d21335f9782b41554e26bc8609346&

[rich grove]

@vale oar why is arena closed for most of the week

i grind pve troll all day and night to make my arena kit and i am left here to suffer

[spiral timber]

How's the current state of the game?

[placid onyx]

raptor jesus is a homosexual how about you play the game and figure it out.

[rigid tide]

for some reason they added that water map on StR and High Roller and now these modes are basically a coinflip

[muted hare]

game is great LK, tavern is usually full of ppl that complain dont base ur opinion on this shaite

[placid onyx]

LMAO at bluefire

[muted hare]

at least they nerfed druid hard enough amirite

[broken pagoda]

Meanwhile healer druid in arena is doing 2k healing in 1 round

[placid onyx]

if you arent playing a vigor rogue with a woodsman axe you arent playing rogue right.

[verbal radish]

challenge accepted

[placid onyx]

ive already gotten two kills

[left oyster]

daily reminder water map is trash

[ember snow]

[willow osprey]

what are the two new artifacts?

[quaint carbon]

🧊 🐧 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 🧊

[white slate]

... i like water map 👉 👈

[white slate]

+1, penguins dominating arena would be hilarious

[wise valve]

Bean water is so good ☕

[cursive shale]

Game still trash?

[quaint carbon]

the devs have taken your input and decided to buff ranger and wizard some more

[timber orbit]

type shit

[stoic goblet]

can someone help with this failed to connect to server, quit the game. bug that my friends having, please weve tried everything\

[turbid elbow]

try task manager-> look for Tavern.exe and TavernWorker.exe-> end them-> retry the game. thanks

[odd prairie]

How is this make or break season? Do you think they made it, or is it busted beyond repair?/

busted, got it

[scarlet stirrup]

when tf is the next patch bro?

[finite flicker]

2026

[granite pumice]

Best patch came out October 30th

[empty frost]

Will there be a Black Friday sale

[scarlet stirrup]

When is the next patch @hexed adder ?

[wet steeple]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply.@hexed adder

[sudden rain]

WHY HAS NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT?? THE GOBLINS IN DARK AND DARKER ARE HIDING SOMETHING. THEY’RE TOO FAST, TOO ANGRY, TOO… FERTILE. YES, I SAID IT. WHERE ARE THE PREGNANT GOBLINS. DON’T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT — YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE. THEY’VE GOT CAMPS, THEY’VE GOT HUTS, THEY’VE GOT LITTLE GOBLIN BEDS — WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN THERE, CROCHETING?? NO. THEY’RE BREEDING. AND YET… NO PREGNANT GOBLINS IN THE GAME.

IMAGINE IT — A PREGNANT GOBLIN WOBBLING OUT OF THE DARK, PROTECTING HER NEST, SCREAMING IN ANCIENT TONGUES ABOUT THE GOLD YOU STOLE FROM HER CAVE. THAT’S REAL IMMERSION. THAT’S THE TRUE DARKNESS. THE TRUE DANGER.

EVERY UPDATE THEY ADD NEW CLASSES, NEW MAPS, NEW DUNGEONS, BUT DO THEY ADD GOBLIN MATERNITY MECHANICS? NO! WHERE’S THE GOBLIN MIDWIFE NPC? WHERE’S THE GOBLIN BABY THAT STEALS YOUR BOOTS AND DISAPPEARS INTO THE WALL?

THE COMMUNITY IS ASLEEP. WAKE UP. THIS IS THE NEXT EVOLUTION OF DUNGEON EXTRACTION. I’M NOT CRAZY — I’M VISIONARY. PREGNANT GOBLINS. PREGNANT. GOBLINS. PATCH 1.0 NEEDS IT. THE WORLD NEEDS IT.

[desert vector]

[wind juniper]

good game devs lean into community jokes like that, sdf clutches his pearls at the thought of defiling his sacred treasure

[quaint carbon]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[sonic lynx]

leyendary all att pendnd 500 g ? underated a f ?

[shy sierra]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[wind juniper]

damn whole lotta chinese livestreamers speaking out tonight, love to see it guys

[gaunt oracle]

I miss water map in HR. I hope it comes back someday

[quaint carbon]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[trail spade]

Whyd they have to add the water map to the HR queue 😕

[gaunt oracle]

dw, you only get it once every 10 matches or so. plus, everyone just takes rowboats/first patrol ship. its free loot

[umbral forum]

what boss drops elven more?

[umbral forum]

because it is good but why is HR on cycle in the first place is the real question

[trail spade]

Its still annoying especially getting multiple maps i dont want and having to wait for portals or in some cases a player coming up and rolling u before u can find a exit

[umbral forum]

sharks are easy just parry bait and if you can't parry bait as barb or something shield and smack jellyfish you need range bosses cant say yet parrana are good gem and ring loot there are problems but most of what I can say are good about the water map.

[gaunt oracle]

I agree, random maps sucks. Im tired of ruins, boss. I want water map but they made it GIGAFUCKING RARE, because people keep complaining about random maps

[umbral forum]

random maps is shit but it is what it is.

[trail spade]

Was that to me?

[wind juniper]

pretty sure only the frosty sky bird drops it along with the other bows

[sonic lynx]

if you dont enjoy the game just change urself because the game its goated

some people dont even belive what are they playing and still complaining , thats crazy

[gaunt oracle]

I'll whine, moan, and complain until it no longer is. Forcing people to play maps they don't like so there wont be dead queues... idk how anyone thought this was a viable long term solution. Players might stick around for more than 1/3 of a season if they could actually enjoy the game the way they like but NOOOO, we get to chase our tail with dwindling player counts and unfun queues

[umbral forum]

that is the one boss I did not want to hear does cause I die to the void more then the bird

[trail spade]

Gameplay=good
map rotation, broken mechanics, stutter, or general miscellaneous things of the game being broken is going to be bitched,whined will be complained about and it is valid

[umbral forum]

Only time I won't be playing this is when I am driving taxi so my gameplay will always be accounted worst bit is how laggy the game is getting last updates.

[wind juniper]

very unfriendly arena for a boss that loves to throw you 3 miles backwards, i get the gimmick but it really is the hardest part of the fight

[sonic lynx]

broken mechanics means skilkl issue '

[gaunt oracle]

exemplar 3, 7k til demigod, 50-70 AP per run (PVE) and I've been stuck on ruins for 2 days. Does water map even actually queue anymore?

[trail spade]

Are you on the short bus?

[wind juniper]

the only maps i get in normal hr are ruins and water, i think it's honestly been favoring water for me

[gaunt oracle]

I just want to go swimming and net an easy 150 AP for one water map run. pls coppermallet

[turbid elbow]

why are you doing this to yourself boss...go PVP hr you get 700 at least per run

[sonic lynx]

you are the one complaining like a kid bruh never saw you saying something nice

[trail spade]

I asked a question and complained/criticized mechanics that could be changed to make something better. If your that slow then there is no getting through to you 🤷‍♂️

[sonic lynx]

make your own game lets see howmany people will play it im hyped fr

[wind juniper]

@proud copper give wyvern viola back

[trail spade]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-patrick-dumb-stupid-empty-head-gif-6382591252072604951

[gaunt oracle]

"When I complain, its valid... when you complain you're being a child. Just make your own game" bro, if you're gona start discord PVP at least be good at it

don't be a hypocrite challenge level: impossible, DaD edition

[crude beacon]

when is wipe?

[trail spade]

Some people's children lmao

[sonic lynx]

you are complaining a about stupid things that are literally part of the game when i try to make the game better not the way i like the game to be just because my opinion matters more have anice day

[turbid elbow]

at least 35 days left my bet, it's been on for 55days

[narrow blade]

HELLO EVERYONE, THIS GAME IS DEAD! o7

[gaunt oracle]

punctuation is free, you can use it more often

its funny, someone complains about complex ingame mechanics and the community reply is "go make your own game then" but when the ICONS get changed slightly, its pitchforks time. Brother, you can change your OWN icons by editing game files. The fucking irony

[umbral forum]

shit easier bossing

[rapid pilot]

what are the drop rates for the ancient egg in pve norms

[limber osprey]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[gaunt oracle]

I dont have a reliable source, but I've seen people say 1:400

[wet steeple]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply.@Graysun

[gaunt oracle]

finally got water map after 8-10 rounds of PVE HR. loaded into a continuous ~4min gone off map, still doubled my AP gains compared to ruins. buff ruins mob drops pls

[sacred halo]

3 minutes to start a game in high roller. unbelievable

[rancid marten]

It because nobody is fucking playing man of course it’s gonna take 3 minutes

Lowkey a miracle they can get you in a game in 3 minutes I’d expect much longer at this point, there about 1 person online per match making pool

[drifting scaffold]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply.@Graysun

[muted hare]

wow some new braindead copypasta dropped crazy

[swift coral]

wow some new braindead copypasta dropped crazy

[muted hare]

eh 4/10

[upbeat sail]

Hey guys i have a Problem with playing Dad and Discord. If i Switch the Screen the Game seems weird and i Cant move for a while. I turned Hardware acceleration off but it didnt help. When Discord is closed i have no Problems. Someone know how to fix it?

[scarlet stirrup]

Try changing the fullscreen option to borderless windowed

[upbeat sail]

I did, Same Problem while Discord is Open

[sudden hatch]

everybody transgender

[upbeat sail]

If someone know a Solution i would appreciate a pn. I finish my work Break soon and i probably wont find the answer in this Channel. Thanks

[sudden hatch]

your ram or graphics drivers may be outdated

[upbeat sail]

I bought a new Laptop like 2 month ago. Razer Blade 18. 5080, i Check later if Theres an Update, thanks

[drifting scaffold]

razer blades are nice but their batteries balloon like crazy

[livid chasm]

yo lowkey i feel like you have better odds at getting certain maps depending on what class you play

[mental garden]

game still poop?

[livid chasm]

i like it :D

[unique pawn]

dead and deader

[subtle mauve]

Its a fun game I think the current queue system is just a bit wack with both the inability to pick your map and the ability to get into empty lobbies.

[quaint carbon]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[subtle mauve]

A lot of Chinese live streamers in chat today

[topaz temple]

lol

[wet current]

they dont care

[royal trench]

Its not funny

[topaz temple]

okay

[wind juniper]

i'm happy they're speaking up it's important

common china w

[drifting scaffold]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[royal trench]

Hello, I am a Swedish live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[feral dew]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply
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[quaint carbon]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[delicate ibex]

Hello, I am a Ranger live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The Chinese has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the Chinese country is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the Chinese, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most countries can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range country, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the Chinese country unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the NA East, NA West, EU, and SA countries. There are no suitable new server for the Chinese. Even if the production team does not play the China themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the Chinese. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply

[muted hare]

oh no the copypasta has taken control of the tavern, maybe its a good thing, i guess its the nerds way of saying thank you sdf for a nice game

keep up the good work lads, youll get your message across

[feral dew]

Hello, I am a Chinese live-streaming player. I have been playing the game since its third test and up to now. I would like to offer some suggestions to the production team regarding the game. The ranger has been weakened since the internal test and still remains so until now. Currently, in the dungeons, the ranger profession is rarely seen. The multiple shooting of the longbow has decreased from 3 to 2. In the version at the beginning of 2024, the weapon damage of the rare-level armament sword was 34, while that of the rare-level longbow was 45. Now, the damage of the armament sword is 30, and that of the longbow is 36. Including the control time of the trap of the ranger, which has decreased from 7 seconds to 3 seconds, the flight damage attenuation, the physical strength of the spear has decreased from 10 to 0, the number of back jumps has decreased from 2 to 1. Most professions can now use shields, which limits their movement speed. After the split of agility and dexterity, high agility curves have also been restricted. The props used by the close-range profession, the lantern, have added the speed function. All these changes have made the ranger profession unable to survive in the dungeons. In the recent several versions, the official team has been strengthening the warrior, barbarian, sorcerer, and thief professions. There are no suitable new equipment for the ranger. Even if the production team does not play the ranger themselves, please do not weaken it so much. Currently, in single-player, double-player, and triple-player modes, the ranger is unbalanced. I hope the production team can strengthen the ranger. For the game, reduce the drop rate, return the attributes to the previous version, and allow all random attributes to be displayed in any equipment slot. Do not make large-scale changes to the game. Focus on controlling cheating. I hope to receive your reply
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[slate hawk]

Spam is fine in #the-tavern , as long as it's respectful.

[muted hare]

indeed, i love it

[prime vapor]

Spam is fine in zzz 12 3 ⁠the-tavern , as long as it's respeggggctful.

[dusky rapids]

Eggs 🥚 🍳

[prime vapor]

Eggs

[slate hawk]

zzz 12 3 egggscellent

[prime vapor]

thats what i was thinking

[turbid elbow]

the feeling when a 3rd party loots your kill and you at 10% hp

[sonic lynx]

[misty ridge]

🥚

I laid an egg.

🐣boom, baby bird.

🎓🐤 he just graduated

💵🐥💵 he's now very successful

🪦 he died.

[turbid elbow]

deepfry dat boy

[misty ridge]

go easy on me, my son just died

[muted hare]

did u inherit some of his money, i heard he was very successful

[shrewd pollen]

Did you at least get his BiS gear back?

[misty ridge]

It was unexpected so he didn't get to write a will. It went to his wife 🐦

[misty ridge]

nah dungeon recovery wasn't enabled

I have his minted green halberd tho

[muted hare]

u dont lose gear in arena or in pve mode if u avoid the abyss of ice cavern

[misty ridge]

the abyss returns loot now

[shrewd pollen]

you only dont get it back in PvE HR

[misty ridge]

He didn't play PvE. Only dungeons and arena

[misty ridge]

this is just not true lol

[shrewd pollen]

well also in normals and Hr of course

[simple aspen]

you get gear back from abyss in pve now too
didn't realize someone else already said that mb

[muted hare]

thats a good change

[tough cedar]

Guys, anyone experience huge lags last days? i literaly can't cast spell on warlock its so lagy and hitbox no counting
eveyrthing is laging, last week i was playing normaly
anyone have similar exprience?

[vale canopy]

so, howcome I see fighters use demon's glee + cyclops ? does the orb give you flat magic damage with each hit of demon's or does it only buff the magic dmg part of it?

[verbal pond]

bloodpact/demonlock is bugged claws to short to hit most hitboxes...i cannot hit cyclops or bear with it... u ruined my fav subclass to a point where its considered "troll" in most gamemodes... i think iam done with this game... u did not fix a single of the demon bugs i reported.... in 3 seasons on 5 accounts and then u ruin it with the "exploiting strike now only applies to unarmed strikes" why? the game is dying and this is one of many smalls issues why ....

[misty ridge]

The magical damage from the orb gets added onto the Demon's Glee

[vale canopy]

does that work with a regular rapier + crystal ball then too?

[shrewd pollen]

Regular rapier dosent have magic dmg

[misty ridge]

No, because the magic damage doesn't have anything to trigger.

[drifting scaffold]

3 seasons 5 accounts? 🤨

[verbal pond]

i reported bugs over 3 seasons with 5 discord accounts

laptop phone and 2 pc setups all got dif discords lol:P

[vale canopy]

I see.. so you get + the full +7 magical damage on top of the demon glee's 27 (26 + 1 magic) totaling to 34 per hit not accounting for any resistances? all just bc the 1 bit of magic dmg procs the cyclops

[verbal pond]

also probably more as i spread the knowledge among my friends and other demon users they might have reported it too

there is also a bug where demons unarmed strike/exploiting strike wont work if u got anything on your offhand like shield or lantern.. but it should work as your mainhand is attacking unarmed... been reporting that since the last patch when they changed the eploiting strike to unarmed only..

[shrewd pollen]

Yup ontop of your will now scaling as well cause you do magic dmg if i recall (i forgot the scaling tho)

and proably sword mastery

[vale canopy]

right! tyvm for help:)

[wise valve]

Also, the extra 2 dex and 2 strength made it meta over the Mana sphere.

[lofty belfry]

Where are the announcements? Straight crickets

[soft warren]

Is it teaming if a qt dark elf girl walks into your module in HR and you ask "do you have a discord, kitten?"

[verbal pond]

sounds more like sexual harrassment lol

[static zodiac]

That sounds like a HR report alright

[humble blaze]

Bring back motorcycles from pt4

[alpine moth]

solos honestly sucks unless ur playing meta.

[drifting scaffold]

solos honestly sucks

[alpine moth]

its fine when playing a meta class and go geared. otherwise its just barb and roguer

[drifting scaffold]

every class good at solos is not a fun fight

[fallen crypt]

My Watch Has Ended. It Has Been an Honor, Gentlemen.

Everybody is shitting on game now, and I just want to write one last thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Around 2 years ago, I played day and night. I woke up to play, when I slept I dreamed of playing, and when I wasn’t playing I talked about what we were going to do when we play.

Dark and darker we called it darker. Play darker, wanna play darker? Darker? Play? Rdy? Play play play.

Happiness from killing that first Ghost King. Sadness from dying with a bunch of good shit.
Adrenaline when we fought 2-3 teams in trio.
Laughing at some random shit in VOIP lobbies, pickpocketing arrows from some ranger.
Anger when a patch dropped and my class got nerfed.
Excitement for a new map, a new patch, new quests.
Pure joy when you hit that parry.

That stupid frog “gentleman” meme every week or so. Frustration when a random betrayed you we were all cutthroats, thieves, and murderers. I loved it all.

Damn, so many emotions. Gentlemen, it has been an honor holding the line with you.

There is an old saying in my country: when you defend, you don’t worry about the army attacking you, you look back to see what you are defending. And well… it hardens me to say this, but what is behind me is no longer worth it.

Maybe one day I will pick up my longsword again. But for now... my watch has ended.

[pliant stag]

Do you get AP from high roller adventure mode?

[shrewd pollen]

Yes but only 25 percent

[misty ridge]

Tidal Elkwood Crown

[cunning ore]

That's some quality pasta.

[turbid spoke]

Where the heck can I find these other two books for the quest line? "Manuscript of the Warlords" and "Diary of the Toz"? Ty guys ❤️

[shrewd pollen]

I think i found mine on the ruins on some tabels

[turbid spoke]

that one i got, yea. but i always find only one of the books there

[ember mist]

Hello
I just sold to the merchant my legendary bow instead of the grey bow after getting some arrows from the squire and forgetting to swap them back
Is there any way to get my bow back?
60g for a 10k bow isn't really worth

[atomic schooner]

there isnt. dont make that mistake :)

[pulsar lantern]

its gone 🥀

[ember mist]

I knew that would happen one day...

[vast forge]

make a ticket ironmace workers has time to spend

[umbral forum]

yes spend 10k on another bow just like it

[dawn mist]

What u mean playing meta

[abstract hull]

Solos should be deleted for sake of balance -guy who only plays solo

[sudden hatch]

using the best skills perks and equipment

[alpine moth]

Solo meta - +All and true with on rolls.
Just using the easy-mode stuff for effieciency.

Landmine rogue sitting next to boss door/extract type shit. The boring, stat-check gameplay. No real skill - just better gear.

[dawn mist]

You know rogue is not the only class who landmine Player

And I think pepeole a bit much about gear, and not about hitting correctly, having a good spacing trying to play mindgame (baiting and all Blabla stuff)

[alpine moth]

brother it was an example.

[dawn mist]

Ye ye I know its fine, but I don't hear pepeole talking about this stuff

[alpine moth]

ive got 3k hours and have been up on leaderboards a few times. I feel like my word is somewhat credible.

gear disparity ruins skilled gameplay imo. game becomes an unavoidable stat-check after a point

[left tapir]

na west is just giga juiced chinese people hitting you from 20 miles away cause of ping and then a bunch of landmine rogues sitting behind every single door

hard to outspace someone who is just permanently desynced

[alpine moth]

we keep losing new players for a reason, solos sucks. most newcomers download the game off steam cuz its free and looks fun. they prob dont have friends to play with at the start.

theyll go into norms and get rocked because of gear and then just not wanna continue playing and getting better.

since the majority of players are norms-focused, i really think there should be more balance on that front. this game is very Gear > Skill. Which never really goes well in PvP games.

[dawn mist]

Unfortunately that's true, but also lot of new players don't want to train them self, learn and be creative. They want everything just by snapping fingers. Gear is something we can't avoid, but the start of the game is pvp and how it's work (in my opinion of course)

[timid hollow]

Isn't squire like amazing for this - and a huge fix for that? I've been playing loads of Squire and it's probs some of the most fun I've had.

Just came into chat haven't read prev convos so sorry if it's a stupid statement lol.

[alpine moth]

We have a LARGE portion of the playerbase that just enjoys PvE. This isn't because they dont enjoy PvP, since most of them really like S2R. They just dont like how gear-dependent norms/HR is.

This game feels so good when everyone is on even playing fields. S2R and Arena prove that.

[timber orbit]

still nuts to me arena has had a stable population of players for over a year who get no reward for all the effort they put into ranking up. probably speaks many more volumes than outwardly looking at playerbase distributions

[alpine moth]

No, you're right. But the solo experience is what I'm getting at.
New players wants to learn bossing or travel the map without storm? Get's instarolled by BiS Blue Rogue and Barbs over and over.
Most people would just put the game down because the gear-gap leaves no room for skill expression.

To add - most people running BiS in norms are just chasing PvP and stealing boss after someone else has done it. Newcomers just get rinsed left and right.

We arent tarkov. We dont have enough cool-factor too keep someone into the game while they deal with BS after BS.

[keen saddle]

When is the end of the Season?

[timid hollow]

I see your point yeah.

To me it's become ...
S2R - I have no gear/kits and want to play / learn.
Normals - I have a good blue kit OR want to try and third party and get a kit off of a dude.
HR - Not touching random maps.

[alpine moth]

Personally I'd have

S2R
Blues - SSF ONLY (This way free to play and legendary edition are on even playing grounds)
HR - Market (No random queue)
Unrated Arena - Market Blues - Open 24/7 (F2P Accessible)
Rated Arena - SSF Legendaries - Open with current schedule

[timber orbit]

i think the solo experience is horrid personally, since majority of its active population enjoy sitting doors and camping around letting others fight bosses. these are issues in other modes, but the reinforcement of other teammates prevents your game from immediately being over because someone sat still better than you.

[drifting scaffold]

s2r is random map tho lol

[timid hollow]

But it's not nightmare mobs and expensive kits.

[alpine moth]

exactly

I just personally feel like if you wanna sweat and collect kits off folks, that HR. But norms should be a more even playingground

This game feels GREAT when everyone is around equal gear. The only time it feels like shit is when someone is just outgearing u. Its not tarkov where one bullet can end anyone, so it just feels like "oop guess i didnt spend enough"

To paint my point - I went sorc into norms for a while and died to geared barbs, rogues, and druids.
I got annoyed, bought a BiS rogue kit... im not trying at all and ive made 20k in the past hour just sitting invis and landmining. Its just stupid

[drifting scaffold]

"geared" ?? "normals" ?? it's blue gear man it costs nothing to full gem it

atp it sounds like you're preying on the suckers who buy blue "bis" off marketplace

[timber orbit]

the PvP feels great when the game is this way, what doesn’t feel great is having nothing to do in the dungeon- outside of killing people lol but that feeds back into the poor onramping discussion

[alpine moth]

nah its just too sweaty for no reason imo. norms feels more sweaty than HR and i really dont think thats how it should be. New players have it seriously rough for that reason.

F2P have no market - so ppl with all the on-rolls (+3 double rolled stuff and whatnot,) just get to run them over even more than they already would. Not really giving the timmies something to learn from

[hybrid sequoia]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/678015/quest-qol-turn-in-and-autoaccept

[alpine moth]

A BiS rogue in norms with cutthroat can stat-check anyone but barb and cleric. Shield fighter stand a chance. But its just so boring and one-sided most of the time. No skill expression

[warm ginkgo]

How are yall enjoying Arc Raiders?

[drifting scaffold]

solos? yeah I guess you're right, but how's that any different than any other solo mode

[ember snow]

water map literally a DEATH MAP to Soc

[thin marsh]

good tbh

[alpine moth]

I dont understand your question.
I believe norms should be SSF

[drifting scaffold]

no sorry I meant the class matchups you mentioned. getting landmined is the same skill check as always, but it's still mostly a solo issue regardless

idk the idea that skill expression suddenly disappears because people are in better gear doesn't sit right. it's the geared mode, if you're not bringing in gear it's very reasonable to expect to work harder

[alpine moth]

using rogue as a stat-check example. and yes, the entire conversation has been solo-focused. also, being landmined is a stat-check. not a skill-check.

the point of the example was to demonstrate that gear can remove counterplay - allowing for someone to just diff another due to numbers rather than skill.

[drifting scaffold]

getting landmined is a skill check, it's straight up reaction time lol twist out the way and don't let them headshot you 5 times in a row

[alpine moth]

yes, work harder - but as it is now, even in blues gear can play far too much of a role imo

[drifting scaffold]

if myself and others were able to diff people in squire gear when it was Epic limited, people can do it Blue limited

[alpine moth]

brother what. any caster landmined by a good rogue kit is dead. i have been on the giving and recieving end of this dozens of times.

[drifting scaffold]

so we're not talking about gear diff at all then, we're talking about straight class counters

[alpine moth]

the stat rolls are currently higher than they were back then. other than when u could +all on everything, we have the highest stat pool per rarity cuttently.

[drifting scaffold]

what? earlier this season Normal was Epic limited...

[alpine moth]

class counters and gear diffing in solos is the issue currently. trios is fine. but in solos, the gear diff + how easily things can be countered (again using rogue CT as example) takes away from skill and relies off gear.

[exotic seal]

Gm bud 🫂

[drifting scaffold]

gm 🫂

[alpine moth]

one can kill in squire, but it PURELY relies on the enemy making a mistake

[drifting scaffold]

I’m still missing why a class counter makes it gear based. if you’re getting landmined as a caster you’re gonna die unless they make a mistake no matter what kind of gear they have

[alpine moth]

thats false. when im on caster there is a huge difference between being 4-5 tapped and being 3 tapped. its life and death. rogue in squire vs caster in squire is a fair matchup with rogue advantage. As gear goes up, rogue gets to the point it can 3-tap during CT - resulting in a more guarateed kill the more gear scales.

in trios - hard counters like that are okay. but in solos, its tougher to overcome. As gear goes up, the disadvantages just increase. I just dont think that should be taking place as much in norms as it should in HR.

[drifting scaffold]

the more gear scales against you not scaling hp, right? it's the same tradeoff the rogue is making

[alpine moth]

i can see ur misunderstanding the points being made. that could be to my own error not explaining well enough.

[drifting scaffold]

the same gear scaling that lets the rogue 3 tap headshot you makes him die to a fireball or frostfire bolt to the face

[alpine moth]

fact is, we have a terrible turnover rate for newcomers. from the ppl ive brought over, i hear the same complaints. the biggest one is that lack of skill needed compared to other extraction looters. this is the most gear-dependent one in the genre.

[drifting scaffold]

that's complete nonsense lmao people have only just begun to do real tech in this game

most players don't know how to turn 90 and strafe jump, don't know how to drag weapons, don't know how impact and blocking works, don't know how to parkour around modules, don't know how mob aggro works...

[alpine moth]

again, this is a trio focused argument. the issue is rogues (in this specific example) being able to just sit a corner/door and get on u with no trouble. then stab stab stab ur dead without a countermeasure being able to be placed.

[alpine moth]

huh? dude this game is easy. chivalry and mordhau have had those same things in them for years. its not new

[drifting scaffold]

ppl out here getting completely skill diffed but one look at the kit and it's "omg he's in such better gear than me" it's not as huge of a factor as you say, is all I mean

[drifting scaffold]

if it's so easy and old news, why don't I see anyone do those things I mentioned? even in arena?

[alpine moth]

brother it is. ive been running a BiS blue rogue kit for the past 2 hours and have stole 4 troll pelts thus far. I do not deserve any of this

[alpine moth]

u must be low rank... u mentioned dragging, blocking, and jumping xD

[drifting scaffold]

what kind of imposter syndrome you workin with bud you DO deserve those 🤣

[alpine moth]

brother i am LANDMINING PPL WITH CUTTHROAT. Before they can use an ability they are dead. Idk in what world u think im skilled

[drifting scaffold]

ur hitting headshots on noobs wdym

[alpine moth]

havent really been going for headshots xD i stacked hella str so it doesnt matter as long as its not in the arm/leg

[drifting scaffold]

believe it or not awareness is also a skill you're diffing them on

[alpine moth]

bro im not. ur coping for some reason. landmine rogue in norms is the easiest thing u can do.

[atomic schooner]

imagine using a skill when you can just use big hammer

[gusty siren]

what awareness? they can just go a perk to muffle their steps, then use hide and ambush, theres no amount of awareness to save someone from that, unless the rogue makes errors.

[alpine moth]

i have more respect for the barbs ngl. at least they announce their pressence

[atomic schooner]

you dont need awareness if you always just spin around with a big hammer

[alpine moth]

"unless the rogue makes errors" THAT is exactly the problem with the current state of gear in norms imo. Better gear = more mistakes can be made.

[drifting scaffold]

aint no way ur doing troll in normal solos like "oh brother i hope nobody comes in"

[gusty siren]

I just meant in general not there lol your not very smart if you do it there. I dont want to have to swing at every door a rogue could hide at.

[deft cobalt]

@slow ivy turns out that they didnt find any malicious activity on my end and im unbanned 🙂

[alpine moth]

theres a difference between expecting someone to come in, and an invis BiS rogue just sneeking up to ur back with no sound queue xD

[drifting scaffold]

well that was the parameters of the other guy's point, he's farming troll pelts off ppl in normals

[drifting scaffold]

idk I played back when everyone had creep in solos, I close every door behind me so I hear it open

[gusty siren]

I mean that can happen away from troll room aswell so it can apply still.

[alpine moth]

again, im making my complaints while actively abusing it. dont hate the player, hate the game.
against the vast majority of players - gear is just gonna do more work.

Im okay with gear giving a huge edge vs non-geared. Otherwise gear has no meaning. But i think that gap is far too big in norms, where the new players are getting their bearings and the F2P players are debating on purchasing the game.

dont have to change the gear. id just make Solo norms SSF

[gusty siren]

people tend to forget that warlock and druid have thorns that scale I believe, so as long as they are geared, merely HITTING THEM will kill you, they dont even need to play well, they just win merely by having better stuff.

[ionic ermine]

I have 4k hours in this game. There's nothing you can do to counter an invisible rogue with max MS that kills you in 2-4 hits with the fastest weapons in the game. It's absolute cringe and lame gameplay

[drifting scaffold]

i mean there is but i play barb and fighter

[alpine moth]

I've said it a few times - This game feels GREAT when everyone is on equal grounds. That's why we BOOM during arena and when new wipes come out. First 2 weeks of SSF has the most consistent playerbase. It immediately falls off the week market opens.

HR should be where gear disparity is big. But norms? no that should be for the semi-casual, semi-sweat. Not HR levels of beatdown.
(obviously other reasons we boom during wipe)

[nocturne scarab]

always have your weapon out boys
running and fear is a rogue's weapons

[drifting scaffold]

but making it ssf doesn't help anyone but sweatier players, they farm up and have the best gear before others

[alpine moth]

huh? thats fine in SSF. they got one kit and they can risk losing it making others happy.

[molten flume]

1- hype
2- gear gap isnt even big
3- because pvp in HR sucks now because random maps+ circle
4- alot ppl play hr with squire or meme gears for farm

[alpine moth]

Yeah step one is make HR more accessible for those wanting to go in with kits (random map is dumb)
Gear gap is quite big when ur dealing with on rolls. +3 double rolls is very very very strong. whether u wanna talk about in theory or practice.
Vets just run down timmies or casuals cuz theyre bored. That doesnt promote a healthy environment for newcomers to enjoy. Again, this game has a terrible turnover rate.

factor in the doo doo reviews (from the review bomb) and its even harder getting ppl to download the game for the demo

[vague adder]

Is Arena open today

[molten flume]

Nowadays a dude in squire gear can solo blue geared ppl, in an extraction game (especially in a rpg one) this is not to be possible, no matter how "good" this dude is.

This is the reason why this game have broken balance

[alpine moth]

closed till 6 thurs est

[vague adder]

Bruhhh

[alpine moth]

the one in squire still has a huge disadvantage. the geared individual has to severly mess up
unless the ungeared one is rogue and the geared one is a caster.

[molten flume]

Nah, i have playing almost the whole wipe with squire gear (on HR) bossing, pilling and doing all "end game stuff".

If i die i dont care, i can even kill purple bad players, if i die to an ultra unique dude, i dindt lost nothing.

Gear need a rebalance on this game.

[dusky rapids]

Timmy stomping has always been a thing in this game just get used to it

[alpine moth]

yes, u killed bad players. as u said

[humble blaze]

Bring back motorcycle monk class from pt6

[alpine moth]

and this game is dying more and more per wipe. That stems from a balance issue as well as a lack of content. so wouldnt it be smart to address the issues that cause newcomers to not want to stay/pay for the game? from a business standpoint, i think it should be priority.

Vets dont give any more to this game after initial purchase. So youve gotta cater to the new-player experience a bit more.

[molten flume]

In a nuthesell, im playing an extraction game where i dont need gear.

Because bad players who have mid gear i can kill with básic gear.

Ppl who wear "bis" unique gear i even care about die to.

And i can solo everysingle content with basic gear.

So...... yeah, gear need a rework

[drifting scaffold]

but rework how? it takes you 3x longer to fight pve as someone in real gear, for instance. isn't that balanced in its own way? time economy wise

[alpine moth]

i dont see how these point lead to the conclusion. but ur entitled to ur opinion and i respect that.

[molten flume]

Make gear needed, ofc.

[dusky rapids]

People have been saying this since the inception of the game man, its not going to ever change. If the timmies dont want to adapt then it is what it is. Im not saying its good design, cuz it isnt but its just how the game works lol

[alpine moth]

and so we just keep dying until servers shut off? we barely made it thru this wipe.

either somethings gotta change or the game we all enjoy will no longer be

[molten flume]

Rogue, fighters (with longsword) and specially warlocks can make things really fast even in square

We are playing an extraction game+ RPG.

Gear are made to be needed

[alpine moth]

Personally i think upping the PvE and making gear more PvE focused would be good. Allowing for PvP to be more balanced by perks, skills, and armor choice/bonuses.

[drifting scaffold]

I mean it IS needed tho right? like if you want to stand a chance against other players in the lobby. farming clueless players in boof epics isn't really indicative of need

[alpine moth]

gear should allow for indivdual expression, but not for "haha i one tapped u!"

Make norms SSF and games balance is then easier'

[molten flume]

In fact. I really dont care this much about pvp (is pvpve after all).

Gear need is about risk vs reward, why should i risk gear to farm if 8/10 of boss runs i even see a play?

[hybrid sequoia]

we've tried that, sweats rebelled, because they think gear is worthless if it doesn't provide you exponential strength increase in PvP

[alpine moth]

sweats should be in HR. if thats where market is acceptable, theyd be forced there
and i think we tried all SSF, not just norms

[dusky rapids]

Its never going to change man its been this way the entire time the game has been out lol but keep protesting in here Im sure the devs will listen.

[alpine moth]

its an open chat for a reason. i see no harm in expressing ones opinions

[molten flume]

The only problem is: SDF dont listen us.

Hr players is talking about how bad circle is for months, circle stays. Hr players say about how bad random map is, we got a new broken map on it...

And the same is for ALOT other exemples

[modest echo]

Yeah hr isn’t fun anymore

[nocturne scarab]

map rotation will fix this dont worry

[drifting scaffold]

if circle and random map wasn't there, wouldn't you just be playing HR the same exact way?

[mellow shell]

Wen wipe

[turbid elbow]

35+ days

[willow lark]

ded gaem

[molten flume]

No, i would playing on maps that i want to play and make routs that i want

[nocturne scarab]

man, if circle wasnt on hr water map - i'd be playing that shit over crypts non stop
and crypts is my fav map

not that map rotation wants to let me anyways
50 other maps before 1 maelstrom

[drifting scaffold]

but you still won't engage with pvp and you will see even less players. so that doesn't really fit any kind of high risk right? ur still bringing in squire gear, still just farming. just more free

[vapid hornet]

what are the strongest wizard duos?

[naive lintel]

hello

[gaunt field]

My Watch Has Ended. It Has Been an Honor, Gentlemen.

Everybody is shitting on game now, and I just want to write one last thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Around 2 years ago, I played day and night. I woke up to play, when I slept I dreamed of playing, and when I wasn’t playing I talked about what we were going to do when we play.

Dark and darker we called it darker. Play darker, wanna play darker? Darker? Play? Rdy? Play play play.

Happiness from killing that first Ghost King. Sadness from dying with a bunch of good shit.
Adrenaline when we fought 2-3 teams in trio.
Laughing at some random shit in VOIP lobbies, pickpocketing arrows from some ranger.
Anger when a patch dropped and my class got nerfed.
Excitement for a new map, a new patch, new quests.
Pure joy when you hit that parry.

That stupid frog “gentleman” meme every week or so. Frustration when a random betrayed you we were all cutthroats, thieves, and murderers. I loved it all.

Damn, so many emotions. Gentlemen, it has been an honor holding the line with you.

There is an old saying in my country: when you defend, you don’t worry about the army attacking you, you look back to see what you are defending. And well… it hardens me to say this, but what is behind me is no longer worth it.

Maybe one day I will pick up my longsword again. But for now... my watch has ended.

[fallen crypt]

My Watch Has Ended. It Has Been an Honor, Gentlemen.

Everybody is shitting on game now, and I just want to write one last thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Around 2 years ago, I played day and night. I woke up to play, when I slept I dreamed of playing, and when I wasn’t playing I talked about what we were going to do when we play.

Dark and darker we called it darker. Play darker, wanna play darker? Darker? Play? Rdy? Play play play.

Happiness from killing that first Ghost King. Sadness from dying with a bunch of good shit.
Adrenaline when we fought 2-3 teams in trio.
Laughing at some random shit in VOIP lobbies, pickpocketing arrows from some ranger.
Anger when a patch dropped and my class got nerfed.
Excitement for a new map, a new patch, new quests.
Pure joy when you hit that parry.

That stupid frog “gentleman” meme every week or so. Frustration when a random betrayed you we were all cutthroats, thieves, and murderers. I loved it all.

Damn, so many emotions. Gentlemen, it has been an honor holding the line with you.

There is an old saying in my country: when you defend, you don’t worry about the army attacking you, you look back to see what you are defending. And well… it hardens me to say this, but what is behind me is no longer worth it.

Maybe one day I will pick up my longsword again. But for now... my watch has ended.
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[white stag]

So many emotions lol, just play and kill people

[covert finch]

any1 else failing to connect

[sullen sonnet]

Haha, Yeah.... Good times

[misty ridge]

"Reply
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[covert finch]

u cant quit, warden the next generation, nobody relieved you of your post.

[potent oak]

My Watch Has Ended. It Has Been an Honor, Gentlemen.

Everybody is shitting on game now, and I just want to write one last thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Around 2 years ago, I played day and night. I woke up to play, when I slept I dreamed of playing, and when I wasn’t playing I talked about what we were going to do when we play.

Dark and darker we called it darker. Play darker, wanna play darker? Darker? Play? Rdy? Play play play.

Happiness from killing that first Ghost King. Sadness from dying with a bunch of good shit.
Adrenaline when we fought 2-3 teams in trio.
Laughing at some random shit in VOIP lobbies, pickpocketing arrows from some ranger.
Anger when a patch dropped and my class got nerfed.
Excitement for a new map, a new patch, new quests.
Pure joy when you hit that parry.

That stupid frog “gentleman” meme every week or so. Frustration when a random betrayed you we were all cutthroats, thieves, and murderers. I loved it all.

Damn, so many emotions. Gentlemen, it has been an honor holding the line with you.

There is an old saying in my country: when you defend, you don’t worry about the army attacking you, you look back to see what you are defending. And well… it hardens me to say this, but what is behind me is no longer worth it.

Maybe one day I will pick up my longsword again. But for now... my watch has ended.
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Would you like me to write some additional content for your promt? If you want, I can make this paragraph stand out with more titles and subtitles, allowing your readers to clearly separate the topics you're trying to convey.

[willow lark]

what is behind me is no longer worth it... it has turned into something phallus shaped and is aiming for my rear

[twilit eagle]

W SDF arc raiders no random dungeon 400k player dark and darker random dungeon 10k pve player

[vapid hornet]

that;s worth dying for

[harsh atlas]

sooo can we just keep arena open?

[twilit eagle]

gc

[harsh atlas]

not brainless enough

[willow lark]

and to think this could have all been prevented if preggo goblins were added

[nocturne scarab]

try finger, but hole

[twilit eagle]

i mean good call LOL

[molten flume]

Rework gear so.

[thick sinew]

if i didint migrate am i cooked did i lose legendary status?

[slate hawk]

Contact the Ironmace support. I think the transfer was only possible until early November and not anymore, but I might be wrong.

[thick sinew]

okay

[hybrid sequoia]

its not funny since March, when they decided cancer circle is the way

[solemn coral]

i love how there's 0 videos on the location of the manta boss :l

[hybrid sequoia]

wild idea: map modifiers, either daily or seasonal ones to spice it up

[hybrid sequoia]

because its obvious, the opposite of gunhand

[solemn coral]

obvious huh...

[drifting scaffold]

great ideas imo, easy way to replace circle and still keep danger, mix up pathing and encourage PvP

[vale oar]

By modifiers do you mean mapwide changes, or special areas which can show up as single or multiple tiles of the map to function as PoI's?

[drifting scaffold]

both 😉

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/juleecel-siamang-gibbon-siamang-gibbon-gibbon-spin-gif-1128571653002961984

[worldly mauve]

@proud copper if youre making a game make sure you make a game where if someone presses an input, the input fuckin works brpo

[drifting scaffold]

“Wheel of Death” wheel module is always present on crypts and features several buffed up enemies and extra chests

[surreal cove]

who makes spectral cloak?

[hybrid sequoia]

anything, from highlighted temporary high quality loot special sub bosses, to things affecting visibility or hearing or even presence or absence of doors between modules, specific ideas are to be brainstormed, but basically adapting a something like Arc Raiders weather and map events or lite versions of your average ARPG modifiers, like special, modifiable, non tradable gear that gets stronger with kills, but only PvE kills and gets reset upon players death you could find, its endless well of potential ideas to shake the dungeon up, hell, even something like "lights out", where only torches and lanterns provide light, but loot is betters

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/shlummo-gif-12593332870838949781

[golden cove]

Hi
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[cunning ore]

Wild idea: No circle bullshit, No static exits, No watermap, Full SSF

[tough roost]

is that you john dark and darker oh my god i cannot believe it

[timber orbit]

i thought would be a rickroll

[cosmic narwhal]

rubberbanding? I hjave ethernet

[supple drift]

actually. there's nothing you can fix it. we are too veteran for this game. it wont be anything to satisfy you anymore. playtest is the best because of unknown experience.

[livid scarab]

why do i see like 2-4 ppl looting pile together in solos lol

[golden cove]

I’m really under investigation

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[timber orbit]

all ogdb fans are it’s probably nothing personal

[wind juniper]

what a bit to commit to

[broken pagoda]

Me when I - # to fool the chat

[wind juniper]

-# ruh roh raggy

[timber orbit]

-# 🫣

[broken pagoda]

-# 🧐

[exotic vortex]

someone trade me a delirium for souls and chest

[warm fable]

true

for some reason circle isn't an issue in squire to riches but it is in high roller.

[broken pagoda]

Probably cause mobs are harder in HR for the average player and struggle against them, so when someone that sucks ass in HR is forced into a module with elite mobs they're doomed

[warm fable]

Bring back Fog of War but better

[vast fog]

The water map was probably the worst addition to this games "random" high roller pool because thats a thing for some reason. I love that I cant even play a solo adventure on highroller because the water map has too many punishing mobs lmao. Oh and you dont get your loot back from goblin merchant even though its pve so good luck losing a kit to mobs, and devs wonder why their game is dying and has 1k players

[drifting scaffold]

damn bro got murloc’d

[broken pagoda]

Mugged by the pirates 😔 , they indeed found plunder

[vast fog]

It was definitely like 3 ranged murlocs yeah lmao

Which is crazy because I cleared a vast majority of the ship before I left I guess I didnt get all of them, their projectiles aint slowed in water like ours are

[wind juniper]

water map is lowkey becoming my new favorite spot

[vast fog]

I wish I had ran into pirates I prefer them

[wind juniper]

you ever get a few of them boys in the water? you’re done

[nocturne yacht]

on hr solos is there no way to choose which map you play on anymore?

[vast fog]

No because im willing to fight them head on

[wind juniper]

touchy subject my friend

[vast fog]

No which is insane because its pve and you cant get named weapons so why am I getting a random map and not whatever I want to practice

[nocturne yacht]

ah ok bc i am just getting back into the game and was trying to farm ghost king but i got the water map 5 times in a row and was confused if i was doing something wrong

[vast fog]

Nah bro it aint your fault but its pve its stupid you cant pick, how you supposed to learn hr mobs if you dont get the map

[nocturne yacht]

wdym pve tho? im playing high roller solos its pvp

[vast fog]

Adventure mode is pve

[broken pagoda]

There is high roller PvE that's also random maps

[wind juniper]

pretty astounding luck, all the ray farmers complain that they never get water map

[nocturne yacht]

oh yea thats goofy i see what ur saying.

[iron dove]

what is a mysterious potion for

[nocturne yacht]

i have no idea about anything on that map i was confused how to escape at the start lmao, i also heard that ray boss has the craziest hitboxes, is his loot good or what why do ppl farm him?

[wind juniper]

it’s all about the 🥚

[nocturne yacht]

what does that do? is it just a currency holder rn?

[wind juniper]

too expensive for that, it’s just the item needed for torch skin this season, but the egg is ridiculously rare

[broken pagoda]

You get a special unique torch through a quest if you turn in the egg to the collector

[nocturne yacht]

ohh damn. can you get the eggs on norms or hr only?

[wind juniper]

i think it can show up any mode just significantly worse chances the farther down you go

[drifting scaffold]

[nocturne yacht]

im sure, that makes sense why people are farming it though. i dont feel like learning it tho hitboxes seem funny

[wind juniper]

someone threw around 1:400 for it to drop but who knows how accurate that is ironmace doesn’t even know their own numbers how’s a timmy gonna

[shrewd pollen]

i kinda want the torch skin but im A to bad to learn it B not rich enough or have enough time or skill to get like 200k gold for it

[wind juniper]

i’ve been killing a couple a day, no luck yet, only norms tho

[woven widget]

Sandwich with no pickles

[broken pagoda]

I am NOT clicking that, especially from you pickle lover

[nocturne yacht]

lmaooo thats how i feel about the luck stat and why they wont explain how it works

[drifting scaffold]

luck is pretty self explanatory once you mess with it a little

[finite fox]

Kinda weird streamers can kill people and take the loot and people are out of their kits but they die to other streamers and get their kits back

[wind juniper]

that’s called having connections and it makes many parts of life significantly easier

handouts are lame tho L streamers, wear boof like the rest of us

[patent pollen]

Get off the game ark raider is out

[timber orbit]

arc raiders

[woven widget]

no hes talking about indiana jones

[timber orbit]

oh, i love that movie

[valid topaz]

ruins 90% of hr que is bull shit lets get a better method of rotating maps or bring back selection

[wary yoke]

bro how HORRIBLE is this blacksmith launcher ive been trying to download for 2 days it just refuses to

[dreamy pebble]

I went from HR pve Ice caverns to crypts ????? Wtf

[spark vault]

When patch

[quaint carbon]

Shhhhh

[broken pagoda]

Bro getting god map out of the rotation and complaining?

[hybrid sequoia]

arc raider loot feels like playing adventure mode
game is made very well tho, just... there is no thrill or risk of loot

[nocturne plover]

Hello guys, which stats should i focus on a druid?

[quaint carbon]

Ask druid chat

[nocturne plover]

I can not see that, only barb, bard, cleric, fighter, ranger, rogue, warlock and wizard

[visual swallow]

xD

[rotund osprey]

when is the wipe?

[median beacon]

yo @proud copper do you play dark and darker? I think you might since pretty sure you are the lead developer in the game. just wanted to let you know that people are teaming like crazy in high roller and I think you should do something about it. all good though. its actually kinda fun when two people team up and run you down in a solos lobby

[quaint carbon]

Go to channels and roles at the top and hit druid, or click this link https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1248862984864923738

[quaint carbon]

You sure you didnt queue solo duos? Us west there are 2 duo queues

[median beacon]

yeah im sure

i would love to have an excuse but nah it was a solos NA east lobby

[quaint carbon]

Were the names easy to read or were they hmm foreign?

[nocturne plover]

Can not see that channel and i can not click that link, it says I have no access haha

[median beacon]

not gonna lie i alt+f4 as soon as i died but i regretted that because i would have liked to see their names

wouldnt surprise me either way as there are tons of people on both sides that team and this was just the time i died. i ran into several teamers in both layers prior (i died in GK room) and just left to the next layer once i saw them teaming

[stable bloom]

player counts are so sad

[paper sun]

what are they rn

[nimble basalt]

Low, trios are dead - lucky to find one team per game

[drifting scaffold]

not in squires

[dreamy vine]

The guy you have to teach discord to to help

[median beacon]

alright im playing the game again! US NA EAST solo HR! please just team on me already and get me off this godforsaken game

[wind juniper]

my games are like 50/50, either a ghost town or 6 people/groups all in the same module

[median beacon]

and legit both options are worse than each other

[nocturne plover]

ok...?

[median beacon]

did u agree to rules and stuff? idk why you wouldnt be able to see the top channel

[rotund stag]

not even 5k players

[nocturne plover]

Yea I did, my account here is pretty old so maybe something got messed up

[half ermine]

YO SO AT WHAT POINT DO THE DEVS ADD SOMETHING MEANINGFUL TO THE GAME?

[lethal cloak]

delete this shit water map from hr thx

[cosmic narwhal]

Do sharks regen health if you retreat

[median beacon]

this game is so much fun im glad i play it

[nocturne scarab]

any socios out there tryna teach me how 2 lie

[mighty sparrow]

@vale oar I have killed HR stingray 50 times now. Every run with a luck pot. I haven't seen a new artifact or egg. Is the luck stat fake? It seems fake. Its definitely fake.

[wind juniper]

my best guess is that for extremely rare things, luck has almost no factor

[median beacon]

y tho

[wind juniper]

probably most used just for upgrading blues/purps you’d find normally

[pallid surge]

selling db + full unique bis rogue kit dm

[median beacon]

i doubt luck influences loose loot spawns

[mighty sparrow]

Would be nice to know for sure. It might because it doesnt spawn in until you open the door but NOBODY KNOWS

[cosmic narwhal]

Yeah, Stingray egg is a big problem

[median beacon]

yeah it might but im leaning towards it does not. same way that i do not think luck influences what spawns in the skull key room

[wind juniper]

egg is the one piece

[mighty sparrow]

Funny enough i got it 12th run in PvE, now 50 runs in hr havent seen it once

[wind juniper]

that's actually criminal to be paid out in pve at all

[cloud parrot]

@tacit charm this person got hacked or something and is sending download links to hack people in dms

[wintry plume]

oof, someone clicked the egirl server

[median beacon]

SDF im loading into another game right now if you want to send your teamers on me again. i know you already sold my gear on g2a i got another kit for you right here if u want it

[cosmic narwhal]

under water battles is not it

[lavish brook]

does any1 know what the artifact spear does

[cunning agate]

#dnd-screenshots message

[median beacon]

genuinely why do i even play solos

[timber orbit]

an amazing question

[drifting scaffold]

if they don’t release gathering hall I guess next wipe I’m squire to riches main

[timber orbit]

me too lol

[fair sleet]

Can stingray eggs be obtained in PvE mode?

[median beacon]

best part is the gathering hall legit does nothing for the game. its cool but lets focus on the dungeons please sdf

[wise valve]

Yes, Extremely rare drop. Over 600 kills and only got 1

[wise valve]

It's the best way to learn your class/build's weakness / strongpoints in my opinion. (:

[median beacon]

yeah true unfortunately i am pretty far past learning and just want to have fun which is really hard when you play solo HR

[maiden flame]

Ive been feeling the same way recently

[wise valve]

What's roadblocks are you seeing in Solo HR?

[mystic anvil]

Sup chat 🙂

Are we winning chat 🙂 ?

[iron mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVnJ9R3bezw&list=PLBU2Uw1KGWu4-j8m-UcFH8fAvd7DYeYLc new song and list!

[mystic anvil]

You have over 600 kills ?!?!?! Theres no way 💀

[wise valve]

The mixture of emotions. The intrusive thoughts. I began to question everthing lmfao

[median beacon]

player behavior is very frustrating which i cant entirely hate but its ridiculous the amount of people that play around the red portals or immediately run to a red when they are in a bad position. players dont kill mobs and instead dont move and wait for an opportunity to catch you off guard (rogues) and landmine you. 80% of the time you kill a boss you are either being griefed during the fight or rushed after the fight. the amount of teaming that exists is also sad and players will blatantly run you down if you aren't friendly with them. and this is like half of the issues. there are definitely more issues.

also half the maps people dont like to play so that seems like an issue...

[mystic anvil]

Agony arises, addiction prevails, eggs disappear from the grips

[hallow gust]

MY GAME CRASHED WHEN I RESTART MY GOLD WENT FROM 5K TO 0

[wise valve]

I'm an experiemental project. Currently first hand testing the balance of the stingray egg spawn xD

@gritty ermine Has def found the most eggs though. dudes got like 4 or 5

[wind juniper]

this is where i'm at, except now i just need an hr version

or, keep it just one squire to riches and have it actually mean to riches, first level is norms to help you gear from squire, then it transitions to hr the following floor, also add 2nd floor gc

[gloomy pivot]

where tf do i get bavin logs

[median beacon]

pve mode ruins

gathering hall legit isnt going to do anything not sure how they dont know this

[gloomy pivot]

all the ones ive hit have given me billet

[median beacon]

it would be great to have if the dungeons were good though

[wind juniper]

idk there's a lot of remaining players who's friends quit or refuse to come back justifiably so, it would be nice to have SOME kind of grouping system

[median beacon]

you gotta keep doing it

a lot of remaining players just put me down sdf

[wind juniper]

comparing the amount of people left solo to the people still with squads it's probably 'a lot'

[median beacon]

i think if players really wanted to group up then they would do so. adding a gathering hall will definitely help but i think weve seen that nobody really cares about whatever peripherals they add to the game

[queen totem]

2k players dungeon xD

[nocturne scarab]

agreed
pt2-5+ every waking moment after + all the crying you see about casuals isnt going to force solos into parties

there are a lot of people who play solos, who'd like to entertain the idea of playing in trios
but dont

[gloomy pivot]

amazing 8 trees hit 16 billets no bavins

[oblique flower]

Does cleric's bless spell cleanse Banshee's screams effects?

or his perk holy water

[slim scroll]

returning player here, this game dead or is it still alright? [unbiased opinions pls]

[static zodiac]

Meh

[wind juniper]

yea meh sounds about right

[final jackal]

i have a question so im like a noob and i just got a echo of screams so like whats that worth anybody wanna buy it cuz im scared to use ity

[little turret]

Why is the audio so fucked

[timber orbit]

type shit

[static zodiac]

It’s doing alright I suppose, player count is the same it’s been for 3 wipes now, fluctuating between 5-15k depending on time.

Gamemodes is alright, the game right now is the most diverse game mode wise it’s been in a while with all these game modes, although I couldn’t tell you if that’s a good or bad thing

The gameplay is dark and darker, it’s fun sometimes and other times it isn’t.
Norms doesn’t feel fun to me personally because of all the geared people, and as a solo player being limited to only being able to play as a trio or I can’t compete in squires to riches sucks

[gloomy pivot]

ill give you 1k gold

[static zodiac]

Prolly a couple of gold chests, can be upwards of tens of thousands of gold depending on market

[wind juniper]

more fun to just use it though

[static zodiac]

My suggestion is, research trade chat.
See what 10 people offer their echo’s for, find a median with that, and add or remove some gold value depending on the items rolls

[tawdry quiver]

look it up on the market

[static zodiac]

If the items rolls are bis, you could probably add another chest even in some cases, if it’s scattered and mostly useless rolls, stick with the median and see how it sells

[final jackal]

im level like 40 im very new i succk

[tawdry quiver]

famine is like 8k and echo is not very far above it

[static zodiac]

The market won’t really give accurate pricing on it if it’s a higher selling artifact this season.

If it’s a lower selling one like you suggest, search there.
I forget what it’s typically valued at

[mystic perch]

After having 100 hours on arc raiders dnd should learn from them

[tawdry quiver]

if its not on the market then you need to go to trade chat for it

[wind juniper]

if that's the case you don't need 50k gold anyway and i would suggest holding it in stash til the end of wipe or whenever you're done playing and use it then

[tawdry quiver]

2,155 dungeon 2388 in lobby, not good

[static zodiac]

You could always dump it into religion for the skin

[wind juniper]

unless you'd like religion skin then yuh

[static zodiac]

Artifacts have their most value now money wise, but are very fun to use

[wind juniper]

fun value plus if they said they're a little scared to use it i'm sure inexperience plays a factor there but getting the 'dying with good shit' feeling out of the way early is good imo

not that they'd just run it down and die right away i just mean at some point

[oblique flower]

Does cleric's bless spell cleanse Banshee's screams effects, or his perk holy water?

[dreamy vine]

its fun

[gritty ermine]

yeesss siiir

[atomic schooner]

vendor them all and post a clip of it in content >:)

[prime depot]

Have the devs n such given up on the teaming in solos?

[gritty ermine]

hard to vendor something thats already sold/used long time ago

[atomic schooner]

well buy and grind for more then

[gritty ermine]

tbh I am good on gold, no need for that. I am messing around with the boss right now. I might have found a way to do stingray with panther and this is from what I have seen in squire by far the fastest clear time, its mindblowing. I need to perfect this tho some attacks still hit me and I need to figure out why

[wise valve]

Yes it does. For banshee I run Holy water. You need to fully wait for the scream to finish. Health pots act as a drink

[molten marsh]

who wants to fund me bruh i just lost everything

[nocturne scarab]

even the wife and kids?

[molten marsh]

well if the wife was my demons glee and the kids were my lantern shield then yes

[sonic lynx]

this game its soo bad they never buff expressman

[stone pelican]

why would they add a map on which 80% of the pvp and mechanics are UNDER WATER its beyond me, when they could have added a desert themed or even some deeper level to the GK where u could fight a Goblin King or something but no they had to add this wonderful map and crank the loot quality droprate 300% for people to be KINDA inclined to play it, insane, vent done have a good night.

[atomic schooner]

they added a water map cause they wanted to make a water map

[median beacon]

they killed the game cause they wanted to kill the game

[stone pelican]

^^

[gritty ermine]

We only need map selection and we gucci

[fossil bone]

is this game dead?

[stone pelican]

if u like to swim or get landmined go for it

[daring mortar]

ughhhh i wish SDF would get fired and lose everything he owns already

[fossil bone]

ded game ?

[real scarab]

whats the best squire hide rogue kit

[left tapir]

chat is there any counter to druid underwater if you're playing a melee class

[winged citrus]

holy shit nerf slayer fighter there is no reason a RONDEL DAGGER should be doing 60 dmg a swing

[viscid holly]

player count check?

[rich barn]

Wow this games thriving

[daring mortar]

less than 5k players.... good job @proud copper

[viscid holly]

depressing.... man i want this game to win but can't be mad they kinda deserve it. GG

[latent furnace]

I just want another good dungeon crawler. Arc raiders is not a DaD replacement just because its an extraction game ;-;

[stone pelican]

yeah its been proven that not playing HR so water map doesnt come out solves this problem :3

[viscid holly]

who is ready for underkeep?

[gloomy osprey]

Anyway to un-disable group chat? I think I accidentally hit something and now I can't ping items in my inventory to team, any button setting to revert this?

[languid egret]

🪦 🎉 🎇 THE GAME IS DEAD

[viscid holly]

uninstall the game and wait for The Underkeep

[gloomy osprey]

Oh sorry I forget 90% of this discord don't play D&D, thought I'd get an actual response for some reason

[viscid holly]

who does?

[gloomy osprey]

Idk the game isn't a flavor-of-the-month game so a lot of your fellow zoomers don't 🙁

[viscid holly]

i have like 1.6k hours in the game. its just horrible now. are you just delusional and like getting your balls stepped on?

Personally, i couldn't keep playing the game after they fully nuked my entire inventory in the middle of a wipe???? Then took out all the stats in the game the very next wipe. Shout out to patch 6.9 wooo! great job

[gloomy osprey]

Yet here you are crying about it while sitting in the D&D discord LOL

[viscid holly]

I mean a man can cope that sdf will one day go. You know what i was extremely stupid why don't i listen to my community. Then start updating the game in a positive direction. Doesn't mean its gonna happen.

[odd prairie]

When is the pregame tavern lobby coming back?

[gloomy osprey]

You right, being a negative pessimist and making everyone else feel worse for enjoying the game right now is a much better idea

[wise valve]

Hopefully next season 🙏

[shut kiln]

6-7

[quaint carbon]

buff penguin

[viscid holly]

Yea you should look around at stuff like The Underkeep and support that. Because the whole "copium" that this game will "git gud" aint gonna happen. but when you look at the underkeep discord you see hope.

[gaunt oracle]

been here for 5 or 6 dark and darker clones. if any of them had any mojo we'd be talking about it in a different discord. same with whatever you're talkin about

[viscid holly]

its so early on in development there really isn't any gameplay. its just early alpha dev footage brother. not a lot to talk about. its mainly WHO is behind that game that gives it so much hope

[drifting scaffold]

Underkeep?? https://store.steampowered.com/app/2411200/Underkeep/ this?

I’m not sure it’s anywhere near size and scale

[viscid holly]

https://youtu.be/p9TWJ1AzTY8?si=WI16SBtnYSC95BLD

[drifting scaffold]

Oh LOL that shits never coming out sorry

[viscid holly]

their last annoucement in the discord was 11/8.25

[drifting scaffold]

announcement of what? they got 5 more working models rigged up?

[viscid holly]

you can go look at the progress if your that pressed about it. But its looking a whole lot better then this game in the teasers already lol...

[drifting scaffold]

no offense to a passion project but they’re not getting anywhere close anytime soon

[drifting scaffold]

the fact that you can’t summarize it in 1 msg is telling 🤣

[viscid holly]

Remember that you are defending SDF who took what? 9+ months to come out with this update that got delayed 3 more times for another 2-3 months each and then the update pratically had nothing but the new map and some number tweaks

[drifting scaffold]

pretty low brow to not play the game and try and poach

never mind that we did a whole rebalance of gear or make existing maps better, never mind the water map being twice as large and more densely packed as the others. nah let’s try to get the streamer project funded so he can squander your preorder money

[scenic wave]

Any word on when Monk is coming out?

[drifting scaffold]

bro you really never backed a scam kickstarter before 😔

[viscid holly]

i have no affiliation with him btw. i just actually think he has an infinitely better product currently being built. thats my take

[drifting scaffold]

it’s not your take man you’re actively trying to convince ppl in here it’s worth shit 🤣

[viscid holly]

you asked if something was what i was talking about. i directed you to the correct place to which you proceeded to get extremely butt hurt. my fault for answering your question dog...

[drifting scaffold]

I only asked bc I thought you were talking about a good indie 🙁 not soulless posturing

[gaunt oracle]

"waiting for an uber is stupid. My buddy is developing an app that is going to be wayyy better"

like alright chief, but I still gotta get to work today

[drifting scaffold]

honestly it’s not far off of ppl in college “yo man you’re a developer? I got such a good idea for an app”

[feral dew]

Buff chicken 🐔

[nocturne scarab]

#sdfs-kitchen message
Last known word afik about monk

[brazen pike]

It doesn't make sense to me that rogue can't use a cutlass

[formal mason]

same

[viscid holly]

This game is soulless posturing

[winged citrus]

can we give every class ranged option since range is such a prevalent part of the game.

[nocturne scarab]

User has been banned.

[subtle mauve]

every class has a ranged option just some are more ass than others

[winged citrus]

Drum isn't a ranged option esp after the nerf

[subtle mauve]

If your talking about Barb they have franchiscas as well. Cleric has spells and drums

[slim scroll]

this games being shut down right?

[winged citrus]

give or take 2 more wipes

[stoic plume]

i got a wooden figurine, what does it do?

[vague escarp]

What are player counts like?

[iron saffron]

Are barbs getting survival bows yet? I literally cannot catch anybody who holsters their weapon, they just endless kite me.

[visual swallow]

you can also put your weapon away

[sonic lynx]

why

[visual swallow]

to move faster... lol

[opal agate]

goblin merchant disabled in HR?

[visual swallow]

only available in non-HR adventure mode

[opal agate]

looooooool

[sonic lynx]

but then rogue appears

[gritty ermine]

We need map selection

[opal agate]

there's an astonishing lack of information about this game, while in-game. why doesn't it specify anywhere that goblin merchant doesn't work in the actual game? (also, there's like 18 quests for this NPC, what's the point of even gaining favor if the NPC doesn't work in the actual game)?

[sonic lynx]

map election doesnot work never do map election again

[opal agate]

I took a snippet of the ingame player list, but for some strange reason I can't post it here

[umbral forum]

wtf are you talking about

[winged citrus]

@proud copper may aswell just make it so people can buy artifacts for irl $

[stoic plume]

?

[winged citrus]

RMTers going crazy with 0 moderation for it. people adverting literally in trading post selling stuff. reported this same guy for 3 weeks now still unbanned.

[quaint carbon]

Makes you think who is really selling it in the first place 🤔

[winged citrus]

fr.

[worldly mauve]

can you get artifacts from boss kills in pve HR

[dreamy vine]

[vague escarp]

are player counts below 10k still?

[feral dew]

Penguins probably

[celest spear]

cant agree more with ya bud

[coarse star]

Its at 4k rn

[stuck vault]

Games done for tbh. Its had its moment and devs fumbled atleast 100 times over. very sad

[next mason]

broooo these rogues tonight are annoying af.

[nocturne scarab]

3k in 2.7k out

[autumn scroll]

anyone know how much Deathblooms are?

[coarse star]

Its hard for it to fully die. But devs keep making bad decisions. Had some decent patches this wipe but with all the issues especially with hr we need really good patches every 2 weeks not decent patches

[white slate]

if they dont nerf rogue next patch its gg

[nocturne scarab]

I blame hsdb for the rogue hate this season
I've been playing rogue non stop since i touched this game
its just hsdb for me on casti + kris
idk about dj because i hate the perk

[white slate]

its just pure cheese

[stuck vault]

I mean your not wrong. Its held on somehow to this point when any other game, if the devs did the same thing it would die in 6 months if not less. I spend a couple thousand hours enjoying it, but even for me i think its time to just let go. It was great while it lasted

[wind juniper]

i don’t, those boys are throwing body shots half the time, i also don’t think they’re a problem rn tho

[coarse star]

Yeah people want a reason to play but its not rlly being given

[white slate]

10 step, get a pick, infinitely run away. its a class designed to be infuriating to fight

[vague escarp]

such a shame. Had so much fun with the game.

[stuck vault]

Its the same loop every season with nothing different. Metas always the same and if you dont abuse it then you dont win. Bascially its just become stale at this point and people have had their fun with the game. I think next season the playerbase will be quite small and over time will become another memory

[nocturne scarab]

They've fallen off hard now that a lot of people know how to play. I think my only real complaint about them is sometihng I'd say for warlock -- Rupture and CT are infinite while boc is temporary. Doesn't seem right.

[wind juniper]

i don’t think there’s really an abusive meta in game right now

[wind juniper]

you’re right my brother, remove all of them

[stuck vault]

Barb has been one of the strongest classes in the game for over 3 seasons

[nocturne scarab]

N-no! That's not what I meant 😭

[stuck vault]

only now people are figuring out how to play against them

[wind juniper]

no wonder we’re devolving if it took people this long to figure out how to fight a guy who has 2 buttons

[nocturne scarab]

I think most fights just happen so fast the average casual doesnt understand the kit they're facing and what it implies about power creep -- like, I'm not afraid of any 10 step rogues at all. Sure, if I was low HP, but then the same could be said about any class.

[wind juniper]

actually thinking about it more there’s no consistency with anything they do like that

phantomize and dreamwalk kinda the same thing