the-tavern

[sharp shore]

Huh I might have to try that tbh

[gaunt oracle]

skeleton crossbowmen hate this one simple trick

[sharp shore]

Unfortunately sorc is fighters counter and why I run breakthrough, and honestly longsword is a bad pvp weapon tbh

[stiff path]

caught some mage cheating in game shooting magic then i shot an arrow at him and he flew up in the air in a ball at light speed and he was completely gone

[gaunt oracle]

sure you didn't kill him and he ragdolled funny?

[stiff path]

i recorded it if you want to see

[sharp shore]

First ever alien abduction in dad caught on tape

[gaunt oracle]

nah, im not THAT invested, just offering potential solutions based on the information provided. the way you describe it sounds like a funny ragdoll situation

or a sorc that landed a lightning dash

[sharp shore]

I'ma be honest it was probably a sorc using teleport to get onto the ceiling of a map

[stiff path]

i didnt she him cast the teleport

[sharp shore]

Send me the clip

[stiff path]

join voice chat

im in tavern bar

[soft junco]

is battle axe viable? Just tried it seems like an outright worse felling axe but i might be stupid

[sharp shore]

It's pretty bad

[soft junco]

i get one with +2.4% action speed and +3% max hp so i thought id give it a shot, i got mauled to death by a barb with normal weapon even though i got the first hit

[livid chasm]

its pretty ass sadly

[tepid crater]

@hollow kettle short

[hard tree]

@hollow kettle 🖕

[turbid nexus]

Why cant we have arena all the time ? Why do they take it off ?

[soft junco]

rogue players would feel bad not having the biggest advantage imaginable all the time

[hybrid sequoia]

so you don't forget how it feels to be killed by rat rogue in dungeon

fun fact, been playing HR whole morning, I died exclusively to rogues, because they were exclusive class I ever met, the F is wrong with HR

[soft junco]

its rogue not hr they just need to finally address that fucking class instead of just acting like what it does is okay

[hybrid sequoia]

game that uses light to hide people should not have magical invisibility, given how even actual magical invisibility still gives out your position

alternatively, perks allowing rogues to move while invis should not exist, the clas should be ambusher, not fucking predator inflicting you with medieval crabs through their 200 knife throws

[soft junco]

game without a working system to punish people jumping out of bounds should have a magical double jump ability (surely ravens work as intended right :clueless:)

[turbid nexus]

I dont play HR often but as a Wiz i m an autoroguehater 🌚

[hybrid sequoia]

I'd rather fight 20 druids than 1 rogue at this point, and it does not help sdf made rogue batshit insane in solos, players like repoze need to get concussion to even have a chance at dying in dungeon

[tepid crater]

huh?

[sacred halo]

This trio game should be called run and shoot. When will there be a nerf to move speed?

[pearl surge]

Imagine being a barb this whipe, essentially the master of none
😂

[outer aurora]

anyone know why the rowboat extract isnt working

[gaunt oracle]

You need to row the boat to the north/south rescue ship. Put it between the 2 blue-lit dangling hooks and it will pull you up/extract everyone onboard

[hybrid sequoia]

it turns on beyond 50% of map duration

[gaunt oracle]

anyone else's cockatrice broken? its got 5 legendary pieces of loot that I can't claim? am I missing something

[thorn gate]

add a sort button to the stash

[steady peak]

Whens season wipe?

[glossy rapids]

Bruh these mushrooms got me phuqin mellow yo.

[glossy rapids]

No one's organization method is going to be the same, for instance I keep all my money and monster viscera on the shared tab, I have a dedicated tab per character for consumables, and every other tab is some assignment of equipment.

[thorn gate]

okay how about this, stash tab sort button, so you can sort each tab individually, so you can still do that

[turbid elbow]

just make a search bar bro and have it highlight things

[glossy rapids]

But sort buttons cram everything to the top of the page. I don't want that, I want things organized in rows.

[gaunt oracle]

stash tab labels, filters, sort would be sick. label a tab "Crafting" and specify which items go in there when you shift click from the stash page? im for it

[rancid marten]

PoE style stashes would go insane

[glossy rapids]

Aye these have been done before, and IM has it the classification terms to create such filters as they exist in the trade house.

However can Ironmace impliment these in their own way because they're very scared of stepping on another devs currently existing idea because their case with nexon has them.playing very safe a meek? Probably not.

[gaunt oracle]

it would be nice if we had search terms/filters at the top (click to show/hide if you dislike clutter) of stash like marketplace, too. MY stash doesn't get like this, but I've seen people with pages of assorted jewelry... like how do you find anything?

[glossy rapids]

Some people just remember where they put things

[thorn gate]

i just thought it would save some time tbh, who wants to sit there and sort their goodies manually when you could be getting loot in the dungeon

[glossy rapids]

Some times, you need a moment of the afterglow to sort your goodies.

Why bolt of darkness so fat, slow, and weak when hellfire exist?

[thorn gate]

wouldnt you be able to just sort your stuff with one button then ogle them for a min?

[glossy rapids]

It's not about the oogle, it's about the moment of mounting it to your wall

[thorn gate]

you know the cool thing about it is youd still be able to move items around in the stash so you could still do that but if you dont wanna spend 5 mins sorting you could just press one button, idk call me crazy

[glossy rapids]

Auto mod!!! Let me SPEAK OF 'T I S M'! THAT WHICH I AM SO I MAY!

[drifting scaffold]

great lobbies over the weekend. despite everything there’s still some demons and noobs in the game

[drifting scaffold]

Please all I need is the squire’s filters in my own stash

[glossy rapids]

Why are you stashing your squire gear?

[drifting scaffold]

re read that again

[rancid marten]

Actually kinda genius & on par with typical iron mace problem solving

[fair lintel]

need the storage spots for gold bags...

[static zodiac]

He means the same kind of filter that squire has, where you can search specific within his inventory

[vivid nexus]

does any1 gets game crashes?

[fair lintel]

I just want a gold storage like Arena Breakout Infinate where I dont have to take up so much stash space with gold bags.

[viral creek]

but how will i make money if not farming spectral fabrics :(

[fair lintel]

you still get the gold from the stuff you farm and sell, just dont have to store it in little bags in your storage, thers just a counter like a IRL your money at a bank you dont have to store it all in shoe boxes at your house.

[drifting scaffold]

but then there would need to be some kind of goblin bank. and im not gonna trust that goblin with my gold

[fair lintel]

LOL, that would make the wipes ever better "Goblin went on a vacation with your money, he said thanks" KEKW

[drifting scaffold]

😔 went to the blue maelstrom on my dime

[fair lintel]

😂

[viral creek]

no i know just unless it changed the main use for fabrics was gold storage

[fair lintel]

but the prices can change in a hear beat and at the end of the season your fabrics worthless when you want to sell it for gear to play around with. thats what ive thought anyways

[viral creek]

i’m fully aware lol, it’s just that spectral is my fav boss by a landslide and it is the only thing giving me incentive to play this game besides my friends, so the loss of a money making method that involves it would sadden me

[fair lintel]

thats fair, it seems like a fun boss! I still get pleasure out of killing mobs and opening chests to find loot and items.

oh, and trying to get good items from goblin merchant...

[late bolt]

they seriously need to add mroe lower floors to GC gen. tis stupid. the lower floor is almost never connected. if ur down at all u have no escape. it makes gc a lot lamer than before. idm the random gen but add some more lower floors to the modules or smth

like even eelebator half the tiem is not connected

[drifting scaffold]

agreed 100% they ended up removing half the doors from these modules

[fair lintel]

when GC first came out we were always dieing to the zone because the floors were hard to navigate, now with random maps it can be way harder!

[drifting scaffold]

definitely not harder, just makes the lower levels of many of the modules uselsss

[late bolt]

its lame in any case. more lower connections

[drifting scaffold]

it seems they’re slowly making it better over time but whatever. Once it’s back to normal I know people will mald about not being able to find portals 😅

[viral creek]

it really is!!!! it almost feels like a souls boss the way you have to react to his attacks. i parry him with LS and it feels exhilarating to just breeze through it

[long schooner]

PVE modes Ruined the market this wipe, and are actively killing the game, please, make it so that ONLY white/grey loot drops, it was meant to be to learn the game and mobs patterns, not to make bank, no quest items either, thank you.

[fair lintel]

when you say 'ruined the market' what do you mean?

[lunar tapir]

agree

[hearty terrace]

how can i buy seasonal pack? im using blacksmith launcher, not steam

[late bolt]

hol up. pve drops boos loot shit??? really?? thats so stupid

[next lake]

the game isn't about "the market" and i'm enjoying pve

[hybrid sequoia]

why? If it has 10% drop rate on HR, it was 1% drop on PvE and 5% drop on normals, what's stupid here?

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-eating-gif-19630509

[pure wigeon]

[warm fable]

[drifting scaffold]

🫂 🍽️

[late bolt]

idk the drop rates i came back after not playing for a year

[drifting scaffold]

drop rates in all the pve modes are much lower than the PvP counterparts

[spark vault]

Problem is like half the player base is sitting in pve all day😭

[warm fable]

And then they can't play PVP cos they're bad

Bots needs to be added to pve mode so they can learn slowly

[rain bloom]

Anyone know how much longer I got for the religion rewards? Tryna get the skeleton mage race, it doesn’t end in 6 days does it?

Like that’s just the leaderboard reset I think or am I wrong

[brazen parcel]

just for weekly leaderboard

[rain bloom]

Ah sweet thank you, thought I had to do some serious grinding for a moment lol

[brazen parcel]

allg skin is def worth it

[rain bloom]

Fr

[late bolt]

then i dont mind

but its still stupid to split the queues this much if that was the issue with 224 and why they removed it but ok

[fluid plinth]

So my mate got banned for "Abnormaldetection". which the support claims they got a screenshot sent them as proof.

What kind of "AbnormalDetection" show on a fucking screeenshot?

was the mfer flying?

[sonic lynx]

chill bro

[next lake]

anyone else having the bug they load in and can't interact with anything?? i reported it yesterday cause it did it to me in ruins but at least i could escape. just spawned in inferno and can't interact with doors so i guess i just die 💀

alt-f4 and reloading in worked but jfc that's not cool for a live game

[hazy hawk]

🫃 🫃

[drifting scaffold]

not half, more like 20%
anyway I’m not gonna try to stop someone playing Sisyphus simulator trying to farm a troll pelt in pve mode. only wasting their own time 😅

[drifting scaffold]

they already want to add back HR1 with an Epic limit to give a smoother ramp. I’m expecting it back next season

[fluid plinth]

getting banned after 3k hours of the game without getting a reason "chill bro"

[drifting scaffold]

but there was a reason, your bud was caught with unauthorized programs running with the game

[fluid plinth]

"Reason for ban was that we were sent a screenshot"

[drifting scaffold]

yes, among many things, the anti cheat takes screenshots of your in-game window. if there are unauthorized overlays or things on it, it's flagged

[fluid plinth]

Wasnt any programs like that on the computer, Ironmace refuses to send any proof of such or name any file

[spark vault]

Honestly it seems like half if not more because the few games I joined were packed with players

[hearty terrace]

how can i buy seasonal pack? im using blacksmith launcher, not steam

[broken pumice]

from the game, you can choose to buy it and a browser will pop up, better not be internet explorer or you cooked son

[fluid plinth]

Defending a company like ironbace is crazy at this point, they give no fockks about their existing playerbase.

I run into cheaters 10 times a day, You dont get banned for cheating nowadays

[next lake]

try the website. i had to go there for red shards, i'm also on blacksmithin launcher

[fluid plinth]

People cheat for 1000+ hours without getting banned, the most common dark and darker cheat engine has 3000 DAILY USERS xD

[exotic seal]

Gm cquinn 🫂

[drifting galleon]

Can we trade in this channel? or pricecheck

[deep hollow]

what engine is wasteing time on dad? are they just doing it for RMT people

[spark vault]

Crazy that we have PVE mode when you can just play water map and free farm. Reduce loot on pve mode.

[broken pumice]

Tom Petty - Free Farmin'

[dusky trail]

Dark and darker doesn’t even have 3000 daily users

[steep cedar]

oh do you not get dungeon recoveries from hr pve?

[fluid plinth]

7,066 players playing right now, 8365 24 h peak

So about 40% of the playerbase

[next lake]

nope

[steep cedar]

oops there goes my rogue arena kit

[glossy mountain]

F

[next lake]

rip💀

[steep cedar]

its alright im only playing to farm for the religion skin then its back to arc raiders

[drifting scaffold]

gm bud 🫂 hope you had a great weekend

[late bolt]

thats good. hopefully its there soon.

[mild chasm]

this game was so good when they removed solo's and duo's. instant queues, different people every game, solo's and duo's slapping hands making friends around every corner.

[wind juniper]

🦗

[opal sonnet]

can you grind demigod in pve now?

[wind juniper]

yes but it’s slower than normal

[unkempt shoal]

dark and darker fortnite collab when

[frigid quest]

Hi chat

[smoky mist]

BRUH THE STINGRAY DROPS CINDER AND PULV NOW WTF GRAYSUN

also why does the stingray have no real weaknesses

[pearl hearth]

why is the new map still so buggy bruh

[wind juniper]

i thought you said soggy i need glasses damn

[drifting scaffold]

quietly dropped a great mode and took it out in just a few weeks 🥲

[wind juniper]

new map fps tanks hard for me tho frfr

and these damn pirates still swim faster than the speed of light

[mystic anvil]

NEED Banana Skin Barbarian 🤣 🤣

(This is a joke, pls no 😭)

[mystic anvil]

Well, it does have water, so that would follow 😅

[supple drift]

wait, are we in the end of the wipe? or no? time flies~

[ionic fox]

About half way done

[supple drift]

ah ty

[austere swift]

when is wipe?

[dry vale]

they said around end of year/Jan next year for all I know

[broken pagoda]

Normally after when you #2, you wanna wipe

[hallow bluff]

Ii try this pve mode and my god its so fucking bad xdd 3min and 20 people just running around xdd ZERO immersion

[supple drift]

is frog a fish or.. reptile?

[timber orbit]

an amphibian

[timber orbit]

they're kind of like a mixture, they need to be by water to survive because of their skin whereas reptiles are much better adapted for drier climates thanks to their scales

[spiral night]

Does any one know where to find midnight stag?

[ember oracle]

can anyone help me with the spectral knight and the human remains quests?

[dusky crane]

already back down to 5k players

[frank summit]

yee this is so sad...

[drifting scaffold]

20k+ peaks around wipe to 7k peaks 2 months in? sounds normal

[slow ivy]

Human Remains Loc
Kraze Pendragon | Posted on Oct 13, 2025 at 5:40 pm
After descending into the Inferno, you want to make your way to the Blood Prison. As you stand in front of the iron gate there, you will see the Lions Head or Golden chest in the background. Open the gate and step in. To your left is wall decoration with a matching one to the right. Stand in front of the one on the left, look down at the ground. It's hard to see, it blends well into the floor.

Edit: I've never killed the SpecKnight...can't help you with that.

[dusky crane]

i think they should make a medieval city map

[ember oracle]

Thank you!

[dusky crane]

would be better then ice caves

[native robin]

Game is dead hurray

[slow ivy]

I like that idea better than the water one.

[drifting scaffold]

sick. some undead burg type shit

[native robin]

Ansenren NO

[dusky crane]

instead we get a water map and ice caves

[frank summit]

yee sad... but meh ice cavern u can still play... but water map is unplayable

[static zodiac]

A wild skeleton clownsmen

[chrome veldt]

next is a pyramid with low gravity at the top

[slow ivy]

Don't speak about sdf in that tone of voice mister.

[static zodiac]

I created the Clownsman, I speak to my child how I want !!

[slow ivy]

In that case...as you were soldier.

[sonic lynx]

i have to active my voip any single time ? wtf its this @proud copper

[boreal warren]

who do i have to level up to get the white gear in my squire? pls help

[next lake]

do his quests

[dusky crane]

how do i rufund this game i have 600 hours

[humble blaze]

😂

[neat mesa]

Leathersmith for leather gear, armourer for plate, tailor for cloth gear! woodsman for bows/crossbows, weaponsmith for most weapons, alchemist for spellcaster things

[molten forge]

How much is the ancient sting ray egg worth?

What your game name

[livid rover]

Honestly im so glad ARC Raiders has came out. Its broken this horrid addiction I had to this terrible game...

[hybrid sequoia]

merchant selling the stuff you want to upgrade

[valid harbor]

lol, cmon a few more weeks and itll be <3k

[livid rover]

by okay you mean it'll drop to 2-3k players.

[drifting scaffold]

did such a good job breaking your addiction you had to come and tell us about it 🤣 🤣

[pseudo knoll]

damn we should add selectable hr maps back

[topaz kelp]

i know it's been a lil since the message but literally just go into pve forgotten castle with warlock, double curse the knight and look down to the right to dodge EVERY single attack, just keep spaming curses and hellfire when u can and he dies ez

[rough relic]

bro the player count was like 20k a few weeks ago tf happened

[drifting scaffold]

a few weeks ago? Bro that was a month ago

[stuck sparrow]

oh nah bruh clash royale is adding lvl 16 shit is cooked

[topaz kelp]

why does the wiki page of the midnight stag say "not yet implemented in game"? like, is he on the game or nah?

[broken pagoda]

Random HR map drove players away

[topaz kelp]

also the game getting removed from epic probably

[rough relic]

Yeah ngl i'd probably play more if i didn't get ice caverns 50% of the time

[latent iron]

Dark and darker dead and now the goat himself passed away

https://www.buddytv.com/yes-king-michael-willis-heard-has-died-what-we-know/

We all will cherish the beauty and care his love has spread and hope for another to take up his devotion yes king we loved you

[stuck sparrow]

RIP KING

[ocean niche]

Are there any piranhas on HR water map? They’re not in their usual spots

[brittle oasis]

@proud copper now u cant even go hr anymore because u get queued on this shit ass watermap every f+ing time. ice map sucks spooky pirate map is a joke. who is coming with these ideas at IM.

[paper haven]

its actually fun getting the first boat out of the map and all the ppl trying to get u booted off by the harpy

[brittle oasis]

thats all most players do on ice or water get the first boat / raft out

[broken pagoda]

I can do warlord for you

[vapid trout]

sooo noone is playing PVP highroller anymore, thats sad

[drifting scaffold]

most ppl playing this game are timmy, they want to queue HR and grind rank and MAYBE encounter 1 person to fight (but more likely run from)

[broken pagoda]

I'm not home atm but in like 3 hours I will be

[crisp ember]

REMOVE RED STAIRS PLEASE SDF I KNOW YOU DONT LIKE GOOD IDEASBUT PLEASe

[next cave]

Dude I respect it truly but how do you have the wear-withal to keep defending this game… I’ll come in here every month or so just to peep and u are always here to defend it😂😂

[upbeat thunder]

does the gun use strength in determining damage or nah

[errant patrol]

Has anyone found stag yet?

[opal sluice]

#gobo merchant for warden 🙂

[fresh flare]

Make Arena permanent until the game dies plz the dungeon sucks

[opal sluice]

im now a entergalactic drug smuggler 🙂

[austere swift]

agreed

[uneven swan]

so if a harpy knocks me into the void, all my shit is gone in adventure huh

[kind nova]

This guy goons to goblin bolaslingers

[surreal granite]

I should try Arc but that requires payment, feel its just going to go the way of once human or skull n bones, tourist attraction, not that dnd is gods gift to gaming

[uneven swan]

arc is legit good. i just like dark fantasy.

[wind juniper]

arc certainly isn’t either

[clever cloud]

One human has pokemon and anime skins...

[opal sluice]

erm axemen actually

[wind juniper]

arc’s not gonna go anywhere it may even take over as the main game for tarky players but that’s about all that’s gonna happen with it, not gaming’s next big craze

[opal sluice]

its just everyother extract shooter but 3rd person the hype will die in a month or so

[rose sedge]

did anyone get new artifacts yet?

[uneven swan]

nah. its actually good. they cared about their game when they made it. its legit a good game. but every success is gonna have its haters. i'd be playing arc but i dont care for the aesthetic

[opal sluice]

the fighting robots in apoc is cool theme but its very much over hyped

[wind juniper]

idk if i’d call it good either when every single person uses the same two guns

[uneven swan]

what does over hyped mean? becaues its insanely successful and making tons of money and tons of players are having alot of fun. i think thats just normal healthy hype

[wind juniper]

i’m sure it’s fun, but it’s not without its problems

[deep loom]

how few players do we need to have before permanent arena?

[vast canopy]

Can you get a boss drop like troll pelt in adventure mode?

[opal sluice]

over hyped as the only unique aspect about is its theme most the other things fuctions u see in it u can find in other games already

[uneven swan]

over hyped would mean it doesnt deserve the attention its getting. i disagree, its a well made game thats obvious they care about their project. everything has flaws, but its not like 99% of other games that were just pandering money grabs etc

[opal sluice]

🤦🏿‍♂️ u sound like every other arc lover atm have good one

[uneven swan]

they made a great game and its getting tons of attention and people are having alot of fun. do i wish that player base, and love and attention were brought to DaD instead? hell yeah, but those devs care way more than these devs

[vast canopy]

Can you get a boss drop like troll pelt in adventure mode?
Can you get a boss drop like troll pelt in adventure mode?

[uneven swan]

i dont play the arc. havent bought it, never will. but i can recognize good quality and care. swing and a miss

[broken pagoda]

Yes it just has a lower drop rate in adventure

[wind juniper]

it’s been out for two weeks man you can’t make that claim, every game is hardy har fun time for everyone in the world on launch

[vast canopy]

I see, tyvm

[opal sluice]

i bought it ive gotten around 45 hrs hit lvl 27 only reason i give my 2 cents about it i could care less for the game i just wanna see sdf do something nice for once

[wind juniper]

you have no idea how much they care about that game or the monetization they’ll put into it

[uneven swan]

i wish we lived in a parallel universe where arc sucked and DaD was well crafted and the devs cared about fun and the success of their game. but alas, we dont

[spark vault]

I played arc for 45 min on playtest, watched some friends play for a while on release. It didn't grip me like this game. Maybe I didn't play enough but I think d&D is more immersive and thrilling

[wind juniper]

it’s not even about comparing it’s just about the glaze of an overly average at the moment product

[opal sluice]

my first 3 hrs was getting my as bent over by the jumpers XD

[opal sluice]

couldnt have said it better

[uneven swan]

i just dont think its average. i think its a well above average game. if its not your cup of tea thats fine, but it obviously is for tons of other players.

[drifting scaffold]

soul vs soulless: the game

[rose sedge]

HEY GUYS - does anyone know if someone got new artifacts yet? what are their effects and how do they look like?

[wind juniper]

rust is an above average game everyone from all communities should go play that

[opal sluice]

Rust is only Ok when u dont have 12 yr olds playing racism simulator

[latent iron]

How can I turn my friend that has never played this game before into a god level bard

[opal sluice]

2k hours into bard

[forest saffron]

Does anyone have any info on the stag? Been playing tons of norms ruins, no clue on how to find it.

[topaz kelp]

someone already got the war maul it looks good, has like a frosty effect after the attack at least on visuals

[noble shoal]

how do i assign myself a different class role ?

[rose sedge]

so no spear yet? i saw the warmaul

[zinc fiber]

where did you see the war maul?

[topaz kelp]

apparently nope, but i saw someone say somebody did stingray hr with penguin

[drifting scaffold]

water map is fun, i wish the spawns were a little more spaced out

[topaz kelp]

someone on fighter or warlock chat posted a lil clip of him swinging it a lil while ago

[latent iron]

I want water map to have like 30 people on the map and last circle have like a bunch of portals I want it to be all out war with potential to leave at last circle in hr trios

[topaz kelp]

i saw 5 people fighting in an extract boat in solo hr it was glorious

[latent iron]

Like the map is so big I want every corner to be straight up chiraq with arrows and spells being casted bystanders getting hit

And everyone getting robbed

[zinc fiber]

daym i cant find it

[topaz kelp]

i gotta say it's super fun to be like "ok where could they be..." and just see a warlock's hellfire flying away into the sky

[latent iron]

Me personally I want to feel like the games populated again

[topaz kelp]

i'll try to find it for you

found it, check warlock class discussion

[shrewd merlin]

When are they going to have random dungeons/modules. I'm sick of static maps

[zinc fiber]

found it thanks! looks sick anyone knows what it does? is it like viola or smt?

[topaz kelp]

i'm guessing it slows you down but no information on the actual effect for now that i know of

[rigid summit]

If the devs actually let us get up to artifact in Adventure mode, maybe theyd have a higher playerbase. I just wanna chill and get loot. Not have to play with the sweaty 100+hours per week unemployed bracket. Hence why Im playing ARC at the moment

[forest saffron]

Does anyone have any info on the stag? Been playing tons of norms ruins, no clue on how to find it.

[topaz kelp]

if they allow you to get artifact in adventure mode it kinda defeats the purpose of it being a really hard thing to get, and being able to lose them to other players

[hybrid sequoia]

wdym? its full of rat rogues, I have played 4 hours today and it was exclusively rat rogues waiting to jump you when you're busy with pve

the one non rat I met was AP farmer in squire kit

[broken pagoda]

Its probably one of those special mobs like warbone or the black knight armor

[topaz kelp]

wiki says it isn't even implemented on the game yet, and nobody has found it which y'know, somebody already got a new artifact but no midnight stag sighting? weird

[zinc fiber]

spells and guns has not updated for a while if you looked there

[broken pagoda]

wiki is severely outdated and they announced it in #📢announcements that its out there

[topaz kelp]

hmh, makes sense, still kinda weird that nobody has seen the stag, at some point he'll appear tho, surely

[forest saffron]

I am looking for factual information, not a “probably”.

[zinc fiber]

thats probs all he knows be happy with what you get

[topaz kelp]

wouldn't it be funny if they made it an only hr mob rare spawn??

[broken pagoda]

This is as factual it can get. I have no doubt its considered a special mob with like a 2% spawn chance or something. Hence why nobody has seen the thing yet

[topaz kelp]

and shi you are right, last update on that page is hotfix 88 we are at 99

[zinc fiber]

yep😭

[topaz kelp]

imagine a new player just going in for his first game and he finds the stag, i would be scared af cause at least in the preview video they showed it looked spooky

[rigid summit]

So what? Its digital nothingness. We should be able to have the full game experience away from those who get off on griefing people

[broken pagoda]

LMAO, brand new timmy with 5 seconds ingame the game dying to the rarest mob ingame, that'd be funny

[topaz kelp]

it's an achivement by itself getting one and something u can feel proud of, if they make them common items it kinda loses interest in trying to get one of them if everyone has them y'know?

[rigid summit]

So? They can reduce the chance of them dropping. not have it completely nonexistent. The reason they lose people left and right is they force you to play with absolute smoothbrain W key holders

[topaz kelp]

it's already what?, 0.75 - 0.25% chance in hr pvp to get them? what would that chance be? 0.01%??

[zinc fiber]

pvp is a big part of the game including artifacts being very rare and a challenge to get. putting it in adventure mode brings the value down an defeats the purpose of doing something to get a huge reward

[lapis star]

f ur underwater bs map in hr let me pick my map

[rigid summit]

So you just contradicted yourself then by calling them common. Allow it to be there with lower rate. Then it still feels like an achievement. And to @zinc fiber PvP is fine, it can be in arenas. You still gotta do the hard things to get them, have a low chance to roll and even if you do get it, yoiure not guaranteed a good roll. The arguments youve presented show no reason to lock part of the content behind a toxic portion of the gameplay

[stone trail]

why did they waste time making the gear look shittier?

[zinc fiber]

and putting it in adventure mode will only mean everyone is gonna boss in the mode and every game will be packed by people trying to get it without any real danger

[rigid summit]

Oh noooo games will actually have people in them...

[topaz kelp]

what i meant with common is that if you allow them on arcade you would be making them common, cause even tho it would be an even lower chance a fk ton more people would just farm them on adventure since there is no real risk of losing items or dying to another player while doing so

[broken pagoda]

People already do that

[zinc fiber]

yeah imagine how its gonna be with rewards such as artifacts

[rigid summit]

Ok and? It would mean more people get to experience all the games content then. Not just have it locked behind annoying KOS players. Is it really so bad that people have access to those too? "I had to earn it the hard way so eff you, you gotta do it too"

[zinc fiber]

every game is already packed with people trying to get a pelt or mine the gold etc its only gonna me more packed with even bigger rewards and the hr lobbies will be empty

[topaz kelp]

what's the fun of the games having people on them if everyone is killing mobs and nobody can fight each other?, the idea of players being in the games is that u can get more loot by killing them, having more players fighting for the same loot makes it not fun

[rigid summit]

You mean people being able to gear up in peace then decide if they wanna PvP is more like just removing and gatekeeping how they want to access something. If they get the artifact gear and get bored in PvE then they can choose to go fight in PvP...if they lose it then they can go grind and gear up again without sweatlords. They dont join PvP anyway if they dont want to.

[topaz kelp]

if you can't understand why letting everyone get the rarest and hardest item to get in the whole game without even having to fight players (which is what the game is made for) then i don't see reason to continue discussing this thing, they'll never add artifacts to pve cause it'll defeat the purpose of the game being a pvp game with mobs in the map

[topaz kelp]

"oh yea lemme spend 32 hours getting one artifact without fighting a single player so that i can go to arena, face a real player and lose it the first round cause idk how to fight players after only playing pve" that's what would happen

[drifting scaffold]

fundamental misunderstanding of risk reward tbh

[rigid summit]

Theyre fighting for those gold spots on goblin caves anyways... so its a moot point. They gear up in full artifact/unique gear to try to rat it out faster than others. So it doesnt matter if its PvE or PvP. And theyre gonna get wrecked in arena irregardless so again. super moot point

[frosty ridge]

past 2 days na west servers are so fucking laggy

[topaz kelp]

as far as i know u can't get artifacts from any boss except inferno bosses and now stingray and blade hand, so people can't farm artifacts on gc, and if u wanna get an artifact being just chill then go to pve, farm gc gold all time and buy one, that easy

[long mantle]

[stable hill]

this game even worth playing? havent been here for a few months

[rigid summit]

Exactly, so they will either spend 32 hours on PvE lobbies or 64 hours in PvP lobbies because they got murder hobos fighting them before they get there, after etc. You have yet to give any valid reason as to why they shouldnt be available even if less so on PvE lobbies. They can and are going to lose it either way. Its not like them getting one removes it from the infinite generation pool

[zinc fiber]

ur idea will only bring the player base down and will ruin the fun of getting one after defeating a boss in hr

[regal star]

is there a timer on water map for extracting with a boat one of the 2

[topaz kelp]

i already gave u a couple of reasons on why they shouldn't be on pve, but you seem to just ignore them and keep the same argument of "i wanna get everything easy without having to work for it" soo... yeah

[rigid summit]

Yeah because its so fun trying to do anything else in the game and get rushed by sweatlords for ANYTHING else. not like the toxic community hasnt driven away the majority already

[zinc fiber]

when the timer is half u will get lift up by the boat. i have no idea when the boats spawn that drift trough the points to pick you up

[regal star]

nah there is another one

[rigid summit]

Players should be allowed the option to access all content on all playstyles. Forcing PvP to get stuff is why people dont play anymore. Theyre tired of the toxic grind and gatekeeping

[topaz kelp]

damn, having to do pvp to get stuff in a pvp game? craazy work honestly, who would've thought

[zinc fiber]

the game is a grind getting artifacts is a grind. putting it in adventure mode will only bring every player in there so you have an even more less of a change to even pick it up hr lobbies will be empty there is no pvp. market will crash bc no one is getting gear evryone will quit.

[spark vault]

They spawn immediately

[rigid summit]

The market and the RMT that comes with it is why this game is a joke anymore. Most people love self found. The moment the market opens, the game suddenly becomes a sweatfest. forcing pvp in a game that also has PvE is a joke @topaz kelp . Both OPTIONS should be available. Allowing others to get stuff and not be gatekept by your sweaty arse isnt gonna kill the game

[topaz kelp]

just for your information, the game was only pvp when it released and was only pvp for a long while until they added pve and the game started dying, in case u didin't know, so it's a pvp game that addes pve and killed it

[rigid summit]

yeah and the people who wanted the PvE laughed when they saw they made it half baked and not able to get gear. The forced PvP is a joke because they never polished the combat. its still absolute janky trash. just like they little bit of playerbase that remains The toxic playerbase killed it...not a new gamemode.

[zinc fiber]

you can just delete the game if its no fun for you

[topaz kelp]

if you don't wanna grind for the stuff, don't like the combat, don't like the community and don't like the main point of the game that is being a dungeon crawler pvp maybe the game is not for you tbh

[rigid summit]

also the devs swinging back and forth and never committing to anything or delivering on empty after empty promise drove the playerbase into the ground. But its mostly the playerbase who says "bUt YoU gOtTa PlAy HoW i WaNt" versus giving options

[zinc fiber]

just go play arc man no one is holding you back😭

[slow ivy]

Test server for the W. Enter HR with an actual HR loot table, and be pretty much the only one in the dungeon. Beats the hell out of spawning in on an already open chest and dead mobs.

[mighty sparrow]

@hexed adder Did you guys really give the stag a 1/10000 spawn rate?

[rigid summit]

Yeah because rather than trying to embody and trying to get people to play a game you care about you just say "go and play something else" really shows your passion for bringing people in. @slow ivy We shouldnt have to enter a nonoffical garbage bin to play something that should just be included...the devs are notorious for just half baking or throwing away most of what they say they are working on...Where are the quivers? where are the custom skill trees? where is anything of substance? they added one new map finally. And they spend who know how much resources on updating equipment to be at a turned angle...reallyyyy good use of resources there

[slow ivy]

I agree, it sucks that that's what it's coming to. But it's better than the PvE HR on Live by a long shot...IMO. I mean, if your concerned about the skins or AP rank, then don't go to Test.

[cunning widget]

How good is wizard atm? Are there any classes that stand out atm

[rigid summit]

Thats where the issues still lays though. Why isnt this just part of the official hub? When they are having an exodus of players and consistently being requested to just allow full open possibilities...why double down on the "go eff yourselves" mentality? Just roll a season wide open and see the analytics? Not like they havent done that already with some of the most handidly garbage decisions ever.... its hilarious that everyone moaned about patch 69 at first... and here we are wayyyyy further and basically ended up at that anyways after shifting to the majority of what players requested. Its finally after the streamers they drove out of the community and players with it that they made a change. Now they just want to double down and push it even further out? Sounds like corperate nooning

[zinc fiber]

tried telling you your idea will ruin the playerbase and the fun of it. the game is pvp based it always has been there is an adventure mode and all you do is cry that you cant get an artifact or unique loot from it. putting that in the game will ruin the purpose of getting gear in general. and is all you do is cry about the current state of the game then its not for you its that simple. id love it for the game to get a higher playerbase but putting the things in that you want to will only ruin the way it was made for. its just simple if you dont want to grind or dont wanna fight and dont wanna play adventure then just quit mate

getting good gear such as artifacts should be a hard thing to get not easy

[rigid summit]

So allowing more players access will drive them away? odd take. You aren't going to lose your precious PvP...they're just gonna be on a much more even ground with you now when they come in.

[zinc fiber]

gear doesnt even mean anything brudda. if a new player gets an artifacts from adventure mode and goes in hr then they will just get ripped by people that do know how to fight in a blue or epic set they wont be on an even ground just because they got good gear in the mode that they dont fight players in

[misty ridge]

? I've played this game a while. I remember Patch 69 and the current state of the game is nothing like that

[vital basin]

what do people do when theres no arena?

[rigid summit]

Okay then. if it doesnt matter...why not allow more people to access all the content? youre talking circles around yourself and and self contradicting left and right @misty ridge Its when they flattened the gear gap for everything. People lost thier minds initially

[zinc fiber]

allowing more people to get good gear without a real challenge will ruin the point of getting good gear because its no fun

[final ember]

Hi sorry I’m a noob, does anyone know when does religion season rewards will end? I want the skin, but it’s 100k

[zinc fiber]

end of the season

[rigid summit]

Whats no fun is rushing edgelords who spawn camp or hide outside boss areas to allow you to do the work...

[misty ridge]

Yes, because the issue with creating a precedent where gear is an important and driving aspect of the game means that when you make that same gear worthless, it feels like your work doesn't do anything

[final ember]

Is there a way to check when season ends?

[slow ivy]

There's a lot of pushback from players about where gear comes from...and I don't fully understand it. PvE HR loot table has been bastardized to death, the one I ran yesterday was no shit, worse than regular Normal dungeon (Ruins and then Crypt) loot. I mean, if you get loot from a trade from a player, from a PvE dungeon, from a PvP dungeon, the auction hall or kill someone for it...what difference does it make? I don't understand it.

[misty ridge]

Even still, this current state of the game is nothing alike to patch 69

[zinc fiber]

same goes for 7 trios in the same room trying to pick up the item faster then anyone else in the boss room

[rigid summit]

At the end of the day when you die to a misplay or anything else or a wipe...it doesnt matter anyways and means nothing

[misty ridge]

The thing is in PvE HR you can run a full god build with luck and as long as you're able to PvE then you'll be fine and have a lot of high quality drops

[misty ridge]

It's always been like that? This is a non-argument. "It'll all be gone eventually" so will everything else in life

[rigid summit]

Its a joke that you guys defend the segregation of people getting that gear in PvP lobbies when you hail the ability to just go buy it from the market...

[slow ivy]

Ok...I agree. Running luck you should get a little bit better loot. Will it be as good as a normal HR though?

[misty ridge]

No. No it won't. And it shouldn't be.

All my beliefs btw

[zinc fiber]

the outcome will be the same. all it will do is ruin the fun of getting good gear. in hr you have rats trying to kill you after boss. in adventure if they add artifacts the rooms gonna be full instead of people hiding outside untill your done rats ingame anyway its either trying to kill you or get the item before you do

[misty ridge]

But I think that, by choosing not to participate in the PvP part of the dungeon experience, you are getting rid of the risk of death by a large margin and as such should receive reduced rewards as a result

[topaz kelp]

yeah the difference would be that in normal hr if you are better you just kill them, in pve they would just loot your loot pile and scatter like rats

[slow ivy]

Why not? Why is the PvE loot table such crap? What is the purpose of hamstringing the PvE dungeons?

[rigid summit]

And? If I dont wanna play in your toxic sweaty lobby, i can grind PvE and get gold to just buy it on the market and take it back into PvE and still avoid your sweaty tryhard attitude? I still get the Artifact, just dont need to deal with your behaviour in match or VOIP screeching... So why not allow it to be in PvE? its just as accessbile and the LOWEST effort on the market

[misty ridge]

Because PvE as a mode is attached to the PvPvE game and, if it offered the same rewards, people who choose to PvPvE would only be making their own gameplay riskier

[topaz kelp]

cause the game was thought and made as a pvp game, the pve got added not soo long ago i belive, if you allow people to get the same loot playing against players or just pve everyone would just play against pve and nobody could pvp cause there would be no players there

[misty ridge]

If you'd like to farm the gold for an artifact, go ahead!

But they shouldn't drop.

[rigid summit]

People just buy that stuff off the market anyways so this argument is invalid

[misty ridge]

The difference in time dedication between farming the gold for an artifact and finding it yourself is immense

[topaz kelp]

then just fking buy it off the market and stop crying??

[misty ridge]

let's try not to resort to insults, please

[vital basin]

just got hit my a barb as a bard and i was slowed for like 3-5 seconds i checked hes kit he didnt have a special weapon can somone explain?

[rigid summit]

That is such a weak defense as to why it shouldnt be available to just find as well same for @topaz kelp if its available in multiple places, whats the PvE option gonna hurt you? Go timmy stomp like you wanna in PvE and get it...I will go Role Play and enjoy my time helping Timmys versus harming them to get mine

[zinc fiber]

outcome will be the same getting killed or people getting it before you

[misty ridge]

Did you have Rage activated by chance?

[slow ivy]

Exactly. Those who want to PvE can do that. And those who want to PvP can do that. Why is that bad?

[vital basin]

i was bard not barb

[misty ridge]

Oh, it was Achilles Strike. Slows you and damages you when hit.

[signal juniper]

barb has achilies

[drifting scaffold]

it’s not bad until you mix the two together and assume all pvers should be entitled to the same gear despite 100% less risk

[topaz kelp]

i can't belive that people don't get that if you take half of the game out of the equation you get less rewards than playing the full game, it's baffling

[vital basin]

lowkey think the guy was cheating i never seen that befor, yea but i didnt get the sounds or dmg?

[misty ridge]

Do you want to hear why I believe? Okay. It's because PvE alleviates all risk of death.

Straight up that's it.

[rigid summit]

And? Again you guys are awful at making a real reasoning as to why the tables shouldnt be fully open besides saying "my killy time funnywunny lobbies are better because (whatever weightless answer here)"

[misty ridge]

Once you learn all the PvE, there is no risk of dying.

[slow ivy]

Ok, in comparison....where do you rate the auction hall in this..."Risk" area??

[misty ridge]

And as such, it'd be unbelievably easy to just run boss all day every day in PvE for artifact

[rigid summit]

Okay and? If i grind in PvE then buy it...its still alleviated

[misty ridge]

PvP adds an external factor and difficulty barrier which is what justified the grind

[misty ridge]

I explained that already.

[signal juniper]

point went over ur head.

[drifting scaffold]

market, where things are marked up 600% ?? it's a waste vs crafting and looting urself

[rigid summit]

PvP just encourages toxic behaviour

[misty ridge]

Grinding the gold takes easily several times the amount of time in PvE to afford an artifact than to play PvPvE

If you want to further your time dedication that is fine.

[vital basin]

imagine trying to play naked in gob caves solo , and somone with bis blue +1 true phys on everything just walks through lol smh

[slim scroll]

Stop being a snowflake and kill some people

[topaz kelp]

you do know that u can dissable the VOIP right?

[signal juniper]

you can....

[drifting scaffold]

take a second look at the description for Normal mode when you get a chance 🙂

[rigid summit]

Stop being toxic and feeling the need to lobby wipe?

[topaz kelp]

yeah i meant can, brain not braining rn x3

[slim scroll]

What else is there to do in this game?

[drifting scaffold]

i like that they're supporting pve players. i think it's a great way for ppl to learn the pve before jumping into pvp. i also like that pvpers, if they don't know pve very well, can practice there

[rigid summit]

Role Play and adventure with some fun and help people who are new and want to try it out versus sweat their arse off with murderhobos?

[drifting scaffold]

thanks for pointing out the third good thing about pve (and the HR pve). you can now enjoy 90% of the game's content, vs like 30% before

[wind juniper]

and you think these sweaty murder hobos wouldn’t be abusing pve for free artifacts to just run people down with?

[slow ivy]

Shouldn't that be the gamers choice? If they want to 'waste' their gold on the auction hall mark up...why does that bother you?

My point is that when you enter any of the PvP dungeons.... you have no clue where that person you kill gets their gear from. Clearly, it doesn't matter.

[zinc fiber]

i think you are stupid. its either getting ratted by people waiting till your done of people helping with the boss and getting the loost faster. if you add artifacts in adventure mode and you play with many other people trying the same thing will only make it as hard of even harder then bossing in hr. if you play barb in adventure mode and there is an rouge doing the same he will loot the boss faster and get the item before you. the fact is the outcome is the same. its either get killed or get griefed by someone with higher interaction speed

[supple drift]

Dungeon and Dragons tabletop game is good. This game is different.

[rigid summit]

Well since they cant hurt you in PvE, I honestly wouldnt care

[wind juniper]

except they aren’t locked to pve… they get the item then run you timmies down a game later anyway

[zinc fiber]

if you add gear such as artifacts in adventure all someone has to do is make sure they can loot it faster. its getting griefed in both ways all it will do is ruin the fun of the already small change to get an item like an artifacts

[rigid summit]

You pointed out a great reason why PvE should be client hosted and not allow other groups in. Then you alleviate all the toxic behaviour. Its a massive joke to see how lazy people are in GCs to just wait for others to do the other boss then rush and vacuum gold,etc.

[drifting scaffold]

yea idk why you're bringing market into it? it's the thing that blends the two modes together. the presence of market functionally prevents pve mode from having unique or artifact gear

[topaz kelp]

so make it a single player game? that's what u want?

[rigid summit]

So? If a timmy gets run down, then they have the choice to go grind and have fun in PvE and CHOOSE if they wanna run the gear into PvP or keep it safe and fun elsewhwere

[drifting scaffold]

yea client hosted great idea ... all the chinese players will have shiny new hacks. bro at least wait like 5 more years for the game to be offline first

[zinc fiber]

lmaooooo go play dark souls tidge

[vale echo]

The people in PvE are the biggest rats, solo ghost king or any miniboss and they come swarming in, insta looting any bodies etc
Its good for timmies to learn, but the real "toxicity" you say that the pvp players do is also very apparant in PvE but in a different shape.

[drifting scaffold]

honestly this is the behavior most puzzling lmao. the loot in pve really isn't that good to waste so much time!

[wind juniper]

it’s bizarre the just playing the game gets you labeled as toxic lol

[topaz kelp]

yeah i can imagine killing an inferno boss or something and 5 people show up, empty the loot pile and just scatter

[slow ivy]

Because you brought 'risk' into it. You said PvE was 100% zero risk. So I asked, where to you rank the market place then, if pve is zero risk?

[signal juniper]

anyone whos spent enough time in this discord or just ingeneral in the game. will see that the majority of the playerbase is TOXIC. its not limited to people who play a certain class or game mode. hell even every patch note people find something to be toxic and cry over. thats just how it is

[vale echo]

I legit just do PvE when I wanna finish some quests since its chill to do there, but the rats are crazy

[drifting scaffold]

yea ppl think using gear in the geared modes are toxic it's wild

[rigid summit]

You guys are really just missing the point here. Stuff is gatekept. The declining "community" of this game cant even see (or admit to it because theyre the ones doing it) so they just keep saying "Come PvP me becasue Ive got 2000+ hours in this game of suffering so you can do it to or leave!"...then when they have the same 5 teams to fight they say "Oh I wonder what happened? Surely wasnt me or my behaviour"

[signal juniper]

and everytime we open this discord without fail. there are people arguing

[drifting scaffold]

yea that's why I said cost is the determining factor. if you subject yourself to greater risk, you can get higher value items. for someone who exclusively farms gold and never farms items, they will always be priced out (like arena sets, for instance)

[wind juniper]

same as killing players in a lobby where you can do damage to other players like there’s some kind of morality limit to this

[vale echo]

gotta do something in between patches

[shy sierra]

@proud copper @hexed adder the Squire should be able to provide me with a Hand Cannon and a single bullet. How do you else expect me to get tricky with the blicky in these trying times?

[drifting scaffold]

i will say, watching streamers play arc raiders and the kind of reaction ppl have to "friendly" gameplay is very telling

[signal juniper]

the fact is. game is now watered down and a lot easier with the entrance of both pve modes.

[drifting scaffold]

they took a cliff and put a ramp next to it

[topaz kelp]

agreed let the child give u a gunpowder gun

[signal juniper]

take out pve and give us back the option to pick which hr map we want to play.

[rigid summit]

Why? Because others can try to play away from the sweatlords? You know you all can go slap your salamis together in HR and Arena at any point right? Some people just want the atmosphere of the game without smelling your Nurgle playstyle

[tardy ibex]

club barbarian is super annoying and needs a nerf

[drifting scaffold]

yea hate to break this to u but removing pve wont' magically make HR populated

[mighty sparrow]

@vale oar any hints for stag? It is just rare? I’ve been looking across marketplaces and selling discords for any items he drops and nothing. Seems like nobody has found it at all yet

[signal juniper]

pve dad player

[rigid summit]

Exactly. The few people who wanna play the game, if forced into PvP will just straight up leave

[zinc fiber]

then play adventure mode or something else stop crying mate womp womp u cant get artifacts in already easy lobbies

[drifting scaffold]

idk who ur talkin to, i know it's not me. #the-tavern message

alr i gotta take a work call let's argue more when i get back

[tardy ibex]

make club -25 movespeed

[zinc fiber]

😂

[vale echo]

scheduled argueing

[slow ivy]

I did. Sort of...left for the Test server. It's like having the full game on PvE mode, only without gimping the loot tables.

[rigid summit]

❤️

[supple drift]

Tidge, there is nothing you can change others. Only you can change your response. If it's for me, I would just quit Dark and darker and play something else. Complaining wont get me what I want in here, at least to tell a complaint to ironmace. It's for sanity

[signal juniper]

game was supposed to be hard. pvp was supposed to be walls you have to climb over to get better. to want to get better. now we have a escape goat of pve. leaving players stuck there with no care of wanting to get better at pvp. as you clearly shown

[vital basin]

what am i not seeing here? only items of rare grade or lower can be taken in?

[nocturne scarab]

I love that this game was labeled hardcore from the start and casuals still showed up

[drifting scaffold]

wut the top line it’s brand new

[rigid summit]

Because they like the atmosphere of the game. The gameplay, etc. they just dont like Nurlgle incarnates doing their thing

[edgy jolt]

lol reading real slow

[nocturne scarab]

excuses, excuses, rage bait, dont care

[slow ivy]

Maybe...there are a lot of people who can't pvp. Not that they don't know how, just that for some reason, life delt them a shit hand and they can not do it. For those people, who also love the Dungeons and Dragons type of fantasy dungeon crawler, PvE is the way to go.

[signal juniper]

whatever excuse you have yeah/ that doesnt change my statment. its just the facts

[zinc fiber]

thats not what is was made for yall should be happy enough there is even a mode without any hardcore gameplay yet you still find a way to cry about it

[signal juniper]

go play final fantasy then/ this game was not meant for that

[edgy jolt]

Can’t tell people how they wanna play a game they bought do you ever get tired of complaining

[signal juniper]

you must be new. this discord is always popping off with ppl arguing xD

[tardy ibex]

yea but those same people wanna be able to take that loot into pvp thats the problem lmao, make it seperate where u cant bring pve loot into pvp

[rigid summit]

So rather than allowing open gameplay for all styles of players (which would bring more players) instead you die on the hill of "play my way reeeeeeee!" this commnity is a joke anymore and i can see why the numbers just went down as fast as it did

[wind juniper]

you mean like people genuinely losing their minds cause they got killed? game got overran by a weird community of pacifists

[slow ivy]

lol What are you, 12? Is that the limit of your parlay ability? "Go play a diff game dood" lol Holy shit.

[edgy jolt]

I know it really is just complain central

[signal juniper]

youve already made it clear youre stuck in pve.... no one takes your comments seriously

[vale echo]

Whats the issue here actually is it PvE mode being a thing at all or the quality of loot dropped or whats this all about in the end

[nocturne scarab]

i was hoping they'd of done it like ladders/brackets/completely different markets/ and that they shouldnt even interface with vanilla

[tardy ibex]

pve and pvp completely seperate markets and stashes and its fixed

[wind juniper]

idk how you can say this with patch after patch introducing more and more to help the onboarding experience, literally a stepping stone path of game modes now and there are people like you still clueless and crying

[rigid summit]

Actually I enjoy squire to riches a lot. Especially Faustian Runs... because its different. It gives me a chance to try from a different angle than sweatlord statcheck simulator. The MORE options they give, the more depth and varying community theywill get. Not just sweatys

[drifting scaffold]

we talk so much about splitting the playerbase that would be a terrible option, AND defeat the purpose of pve as a way to learn the game

[visual plover]

Good patch

[tardy ibex]

nah u dont care about splitting the playerbase and its already split, u just wanna be able to farm up on pve and then go into pvp with it lmfao

[slow ivy]

People having some feels about where other people find their loot. Apperantly...market place with zero risk, is ok. But PvE dungeon with less risk than a PvP dungeon...not ok. I don't get it...but maybe you can understand it.

[signal juniper]

you die already then have another chance to try and kill them with faustion. you still die in faustion with no kills. thats why you always go back to pve. idk why you try and talk around it xD

[wind juniper]

it’s also very disingenuous to call everyone sweaty because YOU suck, there is so much here that you need to internalize and stop trying to tear down other players for

[signal juniper]

[rigid summit]

Marketplace just needs removed. Its why the community is as bad as it is. if people actually had to find their gear, theyd change thier tune on PvE

[zinc fiber]

damn all tidge does is complain about a game in a way that it was made to be i honestly dont get why your not happy enough with what the devs have given the players that likes the game but not the pvp

[signal juniper]

this is the worst take yet. WTFFF

[tardy ibex]

if u wanna learn the game, learn the game. learning the game never involved farming up with no risk and bringing it into a place where everyone else had to farm up with a risk

[junior kernel]

guys can we stop arguing with each other and focus our anger where it matters, at ironmace : ))

[broken pagoda]

Focus on Rangers, rangers OP

[rigid summit]

This game has changed so much and yet not at all from PT2... thing is the community is just a bunch of PvE toxic edgelords

[zinc fiber]

why doesnt tidge still get that the whole fing point of the game is pvp getting good gear selling it on market and make money by looting and fighting players you have a mode where you dont have to fight players and ur still crying

[wind juniper]

if marketplace was removed people would stop caring about gear altogether, HR would die, nobody would loot a thing, and every lobby would be even more of a run it down at bridge pvp fest

[tardy ibex]

this same community of pve are the ones who ruined dune awakening

[rigid summit]

Your RMT beacon is lighting up the night friend

[slow ivy]

Interesting....Gray Zone Warfare doesn't do the market place thing. But you can go PvE or PvP at the start...the loot is the same and I haven't heard anyone complain about it there.

[vale echo]

Idnno seems fine to me as long as the gear quality drops properly, so more high quality loot in the PvP mode since you're basically in a "harder" mode if you account for the enemy players, I haven't tried the new HR adventure mode yet, but hope its not same loot droprate as HR (- artifacts) since that's just another way to make people not even try HR at all
Who gives a shit if people wanna farm in PvE if it takes more time than PvP its a good tradeoff

[signal juniper]

meanwhile you stay in pve becuase of sweats in pvp. never learning to get better. then proceed to argue

[signal juniper]

maybe projecting? thats a far reach xD dont get upset. cause thatd be crazy since you only play pve

[wind juniper]

i think it started cause homeboy thinks artifacts should drop in pve

[zinc fiber]

yep thats the case

[slow ivy]

This is my point....why should the loot be less because PvP is 'harder'. The market is zero risk...all the loots. What makes the market place loot ok?

[junior kernel]

theres not much wrong with pve apart from quests being done in it, also nothing wrong with the pvp in the game. the problem is the massive lack of content that weve been promised time and time again. instead we get a pirate map

[rigid summit]

Exactly this. People think its an incentive to go to PvP for artifact gear... no bros. I just dont wanna play with the unemployed/super try hard bracket. Im trying to chill, help noobs and enjoy my videogames. life itself is enough of a sweatfest grind...I dont need that in my hobby time XD

[vale echo]

Yeah nah let us 10man bosses real quick like every other pve lobby, fastest resourcefulness person gets the artifact

[rigid summit]

Gatekeepers. Nuff said

[wind juniper]

even without the lottery you’d have to play, it’s just bad to have items that strong SO accessible to people

[rigid summit]

PvE lobbies just need to be client hosted. Reduces stress on servers and lets people actually have their gameplay to themselves

[zinc fiber]

then just play adventure u have what u want and u still crying ur pathetic

[wind juniper]

man wants a singleplayer experience and idk how to give that to him

[lavish parcel]

so ur coming on a hardcore pvpve and want it to be chill pve. makes sense

[slow ivy]

I agree...I'd love to have a few friends and enjoy my own instance of a dungeon of my choosing.

[vale echo]

I mean im pretty sure thats what most people expected from the pve mode in the first place, a single/squad map to practice stuff (there wasnt even any talks about loot before I think)

[zinc fiber]

[vale echo]

Because you risk your own loot in PvP, once you are good enough you will not die to mobs unless you do some really stupid shit, so you're basically never losing your kit, while in PvP you will lose a kit every now and then
And market scales with this entire concept, you get more loot you make more gold as well

[rigid summit]

How have you still missed the point. I still will play PvP. I just want the loot to be available to all? Like showing a timmy "Yo bud! nice first time beating ghost king! check out this aweosme item it dropped! you can have it dude" Ya know...community building...things that will build retention with good encounters not "Yo eff you, gobble my super girthy oscar mayer!" ... Yalls toxicity is stanky

[tardy ibex]

make the markets and stashes separate, allow pve to learn pve, if they wanna learn PVP then they gotta P V P...

[bright sun]

where is midnight stag?

[tardy ibex]

what is the value of a rare item if not for a risk involved in gaining that rare item?
in pve the risk is pve
in pvp the risk is pvp
why should a rare item be equally as valuable in a mode with less risk for that rare item?

make the stashes and markets separate

[vale echo]

There should be some incentive to go into the "harder" modes, its the same why no1 really cares about HR, its too much of a pain in the ass with too little tradeoff
If you put artifacts in you will 100% have rats just waiting for bosses to die even more, compared to now people just rushing pile in full resource gear.
The timmy won't even see the inventory of that Ghost King since its already gone

[rigid summit]

There is ZERO incentive with the market. Those players avoid your toxic PvP behaviour by grinding, buying artifact from market...then going straight back into a PvE lobby becasue they dont like playing with PvP sweats

[tardy ibex]

and did the dude that found that artifact avoid toxic pvp? or did he have to endure a higher risk

[junior kernel]

to a timmy getting a no rolled legendary is basically the same as getting a named, they have no understanding of why its good

[rigid summit]

Doesnt matter... they CHOSE to go play that mode. Then they CHOSE to market it.

[slow ivy]

That's a design flaw....if you die in the dungeon....kiss your loot and your gear good bye....IMO.

[vale echo]

What do you mean zero incentive? Every pve lobby is legit 10 people standing around a pile?
There should be at least some risk tied to getting the BEST loot out there, its like this in every single game. Risk = reward, a basic concept

[zinc fiber]

then people like you should just stop playing. this is how the game is made and what its supposed to be. if your not satisfied enough with a mode where you dont have to that just quit man

[keen briar]

Is my game finally goated?

[fresh flare]

Open dark and darker
See that arena is down
Close dark and darker

[little widget]

All my characters, progression, levels, even bluestones, tokens, seasonal level gone after last patch. Is this only me...?

[lavish parcel]

but this game gone for years now. there was some friendly interactions in the beginning of the game but this just dont exist anymore or super rare. and pve wont bring that back

[bright sun]

someone pls tell me the midnight stag location

[rigid summit]

So what? they are enjoying the game and able to get the top gear. they dont care about min/maxing and referencing a spreadsheet for .05% better stats...yall are weird for not wanting people to enjoy a game their own way. Especially since im saying its perfectly fine if you wanna be a PvP junkie

[vale echo]

Yes, but anyone that has played the game for quite a while will never die in PvE anyways

[junior kernel]

my point is if a timmy gets a legendary theyll be as happy as if they get a named. adding names to pve though completely destroys the concept of hr

[rigid summit]

And when that mindset drives out the last few people who keep the servers running up and they shut the game down and now you dont have it to play at all? It wasnt your fault for telling them to leave then... or was it?

[slow ivy]

Not true. I have 3500 hours on Live and 500 on Test and I still die. More often than I care to admit. Maybe 40 years ago, I'd dance through HR like it was nothing.

[vale echo]

HR sure, but you were talking about getting gear back, thats just in normal PvE

[fossil copper]

You will never get rid of the small pp energy that games like this have. Prox chat will always have those losers desperately trying to feel cool.

[rigid summit]

Thats such abad take.... they will be even happier to get an awesome item

[slow ivy]

You should never get your loot back. Ever. In PvE or in PvP. Dead is dead. IMO.

[junior kernel]

not at all they have no idea what the item is, and my point stands about hr being completely pointless if artis were added. dont get me wrong i think theyre too hard for some players to get but there needs to be other content for pve players and timmys to grind for outside of the most op gear in the game

[rigid summit]

These dudes straight up have innies at this point

[vale echo]

Sure, but its kind of a non issue still since its only timmies that die in PvE normals or people doing weird shit/testing stuff

[sullen sonnet]

hey whats wrong with an innie belly button, good spot to store food

[rigid summit]

The community has already shrank. there will just be less people wanting to play with your toxic arse

[slow ivy]

Or us old farts and the otherwise handicapped folks who enjoy exploring these dungeons. Except for those.

[rigid summit]

between your legs bud. Lacking greymatter as much as an oscar mayer

[vale echo]

Whats the point of queueing HR then for anyone? Its already pretty much dead since the risk doesn't balance out the reward atm, its just pvpers mostly or people farming for demigod

[junior kernel]

mate when have i been toxic to you once? out of everyone replying to you ive been pretty respectful. i think ur mindsets a bit warped if you think anything i said was toxic

[zinc fiber]

id rather that the game goes down then making the game a singleplayer pve game. what you want will never happen because thats not the point of this game if you dont want to play or your not happy with what you have just quit or stop crying and play how its supposed to be

[sullen sonnet]

lol, this one actually made me laugh

[rigid summit]

Wow "I dont want the game to exist becasue people arent playing how I want"

[vale echo]

Kinda ironic here, no?

[zinc fiber]

its not how i want it its how the creator wants it im happy with how it is and im telling you that how it is right now is how its supposed to be. if sdf wanted a pve singleplayer game it would be here already.

[rigid summit]

Never said i dont want it to exist. Im saying the option to get more stuff and more be available might actually increase the playerbase

[junior kernel]

the guys ragebaiting at this point

[rigid summit]

SDF wants a chin more than he wants the game to succeed.

[vale echo]

Ok but can you answer the question whats the point of going any other mode than PvE if you can get all the gear there?

[tardy ibex]

that option to get that stuff is already there tho , u just get gapped by pvpers trying to get them, and thats what makes them valuable

[slow ivy]

I think the PvE addition, although mutilated from conception, is what's holding the player base we have. Take away the PvE...watch the game die an even quicker death. IMO.

[vital roost]

Love that West coast HR is literally just 10 man chinese bot farmers again. its so fun to play.

[zinc fiber]

wow im not happy with the game and i wanna change it to a pve based game with no actual reward while playing! im pushing my own thought in the general chat because thats how i want the game to be!!!!!!!!!!!

[rigid summit]

I truly like the new that is Faustian, I cannot wait for the full Faustian Mode to come out. Its something new versus the same "Hey lets spawn rush a random team" The game is stagnant and needs some new life which is why I PvE and help timmys

[lavish parcel]

clearly not, you could remove pve and make pvp dungeons great again and playerbase would increase drastically

[rigid summit]

Just want options bud. Your HR PvP can stay lmao

[vale echo]

They kinda nerfed Faustian to shit tho, was way more fun before
Water map lobbies were full of people just trying to faustian, now you load in its dead

[slow ivy]

Oh...did the PvP dungeons change? I was not aware of that.

[lavish parcel]

thinking pve save the game is insane. especially when game falling hard rn cause meta and hr sucks

[soft rune]

being able to choose hr maps would bring a lot of players back ngl

[lavish parcel]

100%

[slow ivy]

True...it would sure help some.

[rigid summit]

Those lobbies exist now...and most of the analytics show people prefer PvE because PvP is stale anymore with behaviour.

[vale echo]

You do know theres a rotation going on in the background right? You can just look up what map it is every 3 mins

[zinc fiber]

your options are already here bud yet your still crying that you cant get your artifact bc your too much of a timmy to play the game how its supposed to be. all you do is find ways to cry about it

[soft rune]

or at least make it like it was with the old rotation. every 3 mins map changes

[atomic pivot]

If I was in charge I would remove PVE mode, normals and have squire as it is and HR as pickable maps.

[slow ivy]

Explain please?

[tardy ibex]

no the analytics do not show that reason, you're making the reason up. the analytics might be there, but that is not the reason for them.

[vale echo]

Ah the website is outdated since patch, but there was a website that showed which map was currently in the rotation https://dnd-map-timer.wckd.dev/

[lavish parcel]

almost every pvp players left the game, surely pve stats increased 😂

[rigid summit]

ah yes the ole "i see the actual numbers and therefore those numbers are wrong becasue i believe them to be wrong" argument\

[slow ivy]

Dam, thanks. lol

[tardy ibex]

no, the numbers are correct, but the "because..." part of your argument is not shown from the numbers, its shown by you only, (as indicated in my original response)

[rigid summit]

*almost every player left because the dev team cant keep the boat going one direction...there fixed it for you

[vale echo]

was nice for dodging some shit HR maps, but now it has the water map in the HR pool so i'm pretty sure its wrong

[abstract hull]

Buff druid

[lavish parcel]

buff druid

[zinc fiber]

i thought the maps were random?

[rigid summit]

Buff dev development

[vale echo]

they're "random"

[lavish parcel]

dev team are a joke anyways

[molten orchid]

This is wrong when the gamemode graph came out pve was popping

[rigid summit]

The fact that they drove their supporting base with people like Jay on live stream is hilarious. It shows just how little pp energy they have is. They somehow think they cant fail when they are currently mid Titantic vs Iceberg

[tardy ibex]

I don't disagree that the analytics show that most people play PVE right now, but tell me how the analytics show that the reason for that is "because pvp is stale with behavior"

[molten orchid]

The only people playing the game are pve rpers

The game as a whole is stale but sure stats can’t show that

[nocturne scarab]

there are definitely a large portion of players MIA because we're waiting on content releases, its mid wipe, or whatever other vector

[wind juniper]

waiting on monk

[signal juniper]

this guy has been arguing for literally over an hour now. meanwhile he only plays pve. ignore him. just another toxic player

[rigid summit]

That class is next to the quivers and skill tree

[scenic copper]

anyone got a fix for video settings suddenly not saving? performance has gone to shit in this game too for some reason

[zinc fiber]

Andd hes back crying about the next thing

[tardy ibex]

dude is trying to draw a causal conclusion from data that doesn’t actually show causation, then saying I'm just not accepting the numbers lmao

[wind juniper]

i’m p sure they even said monk is not coming anytime soon

[rigid summit]

😂 ❤️ takes one to know one i guess @zinc fiber 😭

[wind juniper]

might even be a whole new class before monk ever gets here

[signal juniper]

another great take.

[rigid summit]

why dont you come over and take me big daddy bear? 🥹

[zinc fiber]

Oh my.

[signal juniper]

nah you just keep yappin in here

[tardy ibex]

yea we're cooked

[vital basin]

fr lol

[atomic pivot]

just got teamkilled for a coin bag yey

[long mantle]

[zinc fiber]

😭😭GG

[signal juniper]

damn

[vital basin]

last time i picked coinback from pile in pickupgroup i said nothing and never dropped it

[atomic pivot]

i learned that I will not trust teammates and keep my mouth shut

[vale echo]

How did they know u have a coin bag

[zinc fiber]

You should never trust randoms indeed

[atomic pivot]

i told them and said im going red. he instantly went for me

[vale echo]

thats fucked up, pretty sure you can report that right?

[rigid summit]

Great community we got built here. FFS and yet you all think this is okay?

[tardy ibex]

nobody thinks thats ok

[atomic pivot]

i did report, but there is no suitable option for griefing

[wind juniper]

this guy is unbelievable

[vale echo]

Nobody said it was ok?

[tardy ibex]

lmao

[rigid summit]

No, however THIS is the community that has been fostered by everyone

[wind juniper]

three big booms for team killing

[signal juniper]

and that you continue on

[vale echo]

These kind of clowns are in every multiplayer game

[rich pagoda]

Hey, how do i find/ add a ´´friend´´ from a game where i cant see them on karma n fame and i dont know their name? i need help with this.?

[rigid summit]

I would never teamkill. Just like I wouldnt grief players in PvP like most do. yet this is what its devolved into as a whole

[clever cloud]

Meet up in a gathering hall. Easiest way

[vale echo]

Killing others = griefing in pvp or what are you implying?

[ancient tulip]

@inland rampart i have a video of two teams teaming in highroller

[signal juniper]

yet youll stay in here for almost 2 hours arguing with anyone who doesnt like pve, being just as toxic or more than that one player LOL

[rich pagoda]

the thing is we said we gonna add eachother and looks like him and i we forgot names xd

[rigid summit]

PvP is an option yet everyone is just KOS

[long mantle]

Whens wipe ?

[vale echo]

2+ months, take a nap

[rigid summit]

Uninstall. Its the best wipe and what most of the people here tell you to do anyways

[clever cloud]

Damm rip. Can maybe try whispering the name in your karma page to see if he's still on

/w [player name]

[rich pagoda]

babes, i dont remember the name. i am new to this.,i thought i will see him in the karma n fame

[ancient tulip]

where do i go to report in game teaming? in highroller

[signal juniper]

that guy only plays pve and still dies all the time. ignore him LOL

[long mantle]

yo @strong nebula what do u want ?

[wind juniper]

pvp is an option, but in your eyes they’re bad people if they choose to take that option, so then it’s not really an option to you

[rigid summit]

This guy only PvPs to prove how long his dong is. Take it for what you will ❤️

[vale echo]

Yes and their way of playing is to kill others for their loot? Not everyone plays the same way, you can't just forsen your way of playing on everyone
I don't KoS either unless people are being hostile, or if people get too comfortably close, fuck that, too many crouch spammers broke that trust ages ago

[signal juniper]

yeah since i put in the time to learn to be better. instead of malding and crying, then resorting back to pve like you. hell. i never was stuck in pve, then coming to the discord to still be upset. you play pve yet are so mad.... yet people are in pvp and hr pvp and are chillin. youre just toxic m8

[rich pagoda]

so i guess there isnt a way without name or the gh..

[rigid summit]

Just for you big daddyyyyyyy. have a good night though. Hopefully the devs eventually pull their heads out of thier holes and we get something of substance in this game. K love you all byeeeeee

[signal juniper]

down right is karma button. report him

[clever cloud]

Not that I know of. Did you change characters? I think karma is character specific

[wind juniper]

think that’s the one thing you’ve said we all agree with

just not in the same ways

[rich pagoda]

actually i didnt and yet i didnt saw him in there, precisly there is nobody and i played few games today

[paper haven]

WAIT U CAN TAKE MULTIPLE ROWBOATS UP THE SHIPS i thought it was one time use XD XD XD XD XD

[rich pagoda]

i didnt got a recent party member suggestion to add him which is way wierder

[topaz kelp]

i'm suprised at how u talk about the toxic community but my last hr games are just people chilling, mining stuff, doing bosses together and everything, i don't know what u are doing to get the people to be toxic but the community is fine <3

[clever cloud]

Might have to try posting a "missed connection" type thing to the subreddit and hope they see

[fresh flare]

GUYS DONT WORRY NEXT PATCH WHEN THEY NERF MORE CHARACTERS AND CHANGE SOME MORE NUMBERS WILL SAVE THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! W IRONMACE!!!

[signal juniper]

that guy only plays pve he said, not like a insult from me. its what he stated. so anything he says shouldnt be taken serious. hes new and probably toxic in every other game too

[rich pagoda]

thanks i will try

[signal juniper]

i dont understand how players that only play pve, are so upset and angry. like bro

they die to pve like we all did at first learning the game, but their first instinct is to come in here and be upset and argue with others. instead of taking a break and coming back to learn and get better. thats where this game gets fun. is getting better at your class

[atomic pivot]

does wanderer attire look so ugly to compensate for how good its stats are?

[broken pecan]

can you get artifacts from cyclops in pvp hr?

[wind juniper]

it’s literally the best looking shirt for the classes that can wear it

[atomic pivot]

i think warden outfit and grand brigandine are the coolest looking for ranger

[wind juniper]

grand brig is actually a fire chest too, with the new red pants? chefs kiss

[topaz kelp]

I think u can only get artifacts from inferno bosses, skull key, frozen key, stingray and bladehand

[broken pecan]

ok thank you

[topaz kelp]

From what i know cyclops, troll, spec knight and banshee can't drop them

[atomic pivot]

I also love watchman cloak, but its just a shame its a really bad base attribute 🙁

[forest saffron]

It is not a factual statement to say that no one has seen it yet. That is why I am asking. There are thousands of people who play this game. A factual statement would be one that can be proven objectively, which we can prove by the scientific method.

[wind juniper]

how we feel about a bycocket on the drip scale

[main kernel]

80% of every norm ruins game full of people in 5k gold + blue kits all true dmg/all Attri. So if you dont RMT or play 10 hrs a day you can't have fun ig

[atomic pivot]

pref forest hood

[wind juniper]

forest hood always gonna be clean that’s fair

[topaz kelp]

Ocultist hood clean af imo

[wind juniper]

warlocks have a clean ass getup with the mysti gloves occult hood and occult robe

[forest saffron]

I played norms all day yesterday. I had probably 7-8 lobbies that were all squire, not a single blue kit. When I did run across blue kits, most of them were like 500-2k kits. I rarely came across 5k+ kits, maybe 1-2 times. Also, all attributes and true damage are over rated. Additional phys is a much better stat, as it is a limb modifier, and gets multiplied by headshot damage. All atts is a scam. You should be taking additional phys and a stat rolled 2, like agi/dex/vigor/max hp/hp %. Squire to riches is alot of fun. If you are having trouble building kits and surviving the PvP, you should be able to have more fun in squires to riches. Also, if you think you have to RMT or play 10 hours a day to build a 500-2k kit, you are griefing. I can amass 4-5k in one run, ruins to inferno, taking about 45 minutes.

[topaz kelp]

Facts fr

[wind juniper]

all the other robes in the game are kinda ugly imo, but occult robes 🔥

the new ones are actually kinda good looking but their stat lines are questionable

[topaz kelp]

Ngl I fw fighter fully plated, that shi also looks clean

[atomic pivot]

I hate the gap on the neck on the crusader helm. Otherwise that is the coolest helmet for me. But that naked gap looks so weird

[nocturne scarab]

skeleton skin in viking plate
100%

[wind juniper]

really depends on the helmet for me, full plate fighter can look cool with like an armet imo but a crusader helmet they look a bit goofy to me

[topaz kelp]

Fully naked skeleton champion skin with fulgor, thoughts??

[nocturne scarab]

barbuta

[wind juniper]

barbs always look like goofballs to me, zero drip, zero aura

[uneven swan]

i thought the goblin recovers your stuff if you died in adventure mode

[topaz kelp]

Maybe it needs to wait till the game is over?

[final ember]

Hii, does anyone know how long you have to get the religion skin?

[wind juniper]

barbuta is like a middle ground helm for me not bad or good looks wise

[nocturne scarab]

Normal PVE only
Have to wait for zone close

[uneven swan]

i have done like 3 raids since

[topaz kelp]

Until the end of season, don't know when that is tho

[final ember]

ohhh, does it not say? sorry im new so i dont rlly know, i thought it was ending soon bc it didnt show timer in leaderboard

[topaz kelp]

Don't u need to just wait without playing for the goblin to get your stuff back?, or it gets overwritten or something?

[nocturne scarab]

its one of the only helmets i can comfortably use in hema without strangling on my own breath
and comparitively to the other ones that i would use in its place... not a bad sac for me so when i see it here im just like have to use it

[topaz kelp]

I don't think that is posted anywhere! But they'll probably make an announcement when the time is near

[wind juniper]

i’ll tell you one thing you would not catch me dead wearing is a sallet

[topaz kelp]

Andrew, honestly the blue squire armor for the sorc is also pretty cool ngl

[wind juniper]

courtly dress?

[topaz kelp]

No no, it's all like light blueish color, it has a robe a hood and some gloves

[wind juniper]

oooo the older one arcane or smt

[final ember]

Ohh okay. And just making sure, as long as you donate 100k, you get the skin right?

[topaz kelp]

Once the season ends you should yeah! I think that's how it works!

[wind juniper]

i was gonna say courtly dress is heat, i hate will gear but it’s clean

[topaz kelp]

Yeeeaa the arcane set for the sorc also looks really clean imo

[prime depot]

can you still get an artifact from quests this season or no

[wind juniper]

think we’re back to cosmetic rewards

[topaz kelp]

Btw I just played a normal adventure forgotten castle for a quest and I saw a barb with bloodthirst (the zweihander artifact) just running around lmao

[topaz kelp]

Nah it goes up to a unique weapon but no named or artifacts

[prime depot]

sigh, ill go back to training for warlord then

[wind juniper]

[topaz kelp]

Best of lucks soldier

[mighty sparrow]

@vale oar @last hornet Can we get a confirmation that stag is in the game for sure? Crazy that theres been no evidence of anyone finding it

[prime depot]

im sure it is but i bet the developers just slap it in randomly, i dont trust the devs

[final ember]

ohh i see. How are people already swearing the skeleton mage if thats the case?

[mighty sparrow]

It apparently has a 1/10000 chance to spawn in. If that were the case we would have seen at least someone get a confirmed kill, or the items on the marketplace / collectors discord

[wind juniper]

i miss the days i could build adventurer tunic on everyone, best shirt in the game

[wind juniper]

religion rewards are given immediately whenever you reach the threshold for the amount listed, skele is given as soon as you donate 100k and click the button

[willow lark]

I miss 75 weapon damage battle axe

[topaz kelp]

Oooohh so that's how it works, guess I'm a misinformation spreader, a lil liar a trickster

[wind juniper]

bring that back for when they get to dual wield 2Hs

[topaz kelp]

Y'know what the game needs? A meme class, like, it doesn't do anything it's useless but it's funny for some reason that I can't think of, like that mime boy character from don't starve together

[fossil copper]

wearing a diaper as a shirt and talking about drip is wild

[hybrid sequoia]

instrument only bard is a thing

[wind juniper]

adventurer tunic is fire

[final ember]

got it thank you!

[vale oar]

It's real

[mighty sparrow]

Thank you wise monke

[zenith pulsar]

anyone find the stag ?

[dreamy vine]

its sobeautiful

[rustic jay]

does anyone know when is wipe

[ruby kestrel]

i been running all over and cant find it >.> do i need to cut all the trees

[cursive frigate]

Would anyone play a squire arena

[oak nexus]

@vale oar tell me why the tidal spangenhelm has 0 armor rating, how'd we miss giving it armor rating

[outer aurora]

CAN I JUST GET A VIOLA FFS

[latent iron]

3k players in game GAME IS TOTALLY NOT IN DANGER

[zenith flare]

I feel you

[vale oar]

It will be fixed

[oak nexus]

Thank you

[atomic schooner]

nah. you get another shield @outer aurora

[mighty sparrow]

All shields drop from bladefist now, a tragic loot table for him

[nocturne scarab]

are you seriously implying blade hand cant use a shield? ableist dogma in my dad discord!?
reeeee

[sterile star]

can someone please explain why people download the game just to sit in one spot and wait the whole raid and just not fight at all unless they third party? can someone explain why rouges get 2 invis pops and they can stay invis for 30 secs then 3 tap u at the speed of light?

[woven widget]

no he definitely can, but I dont want his shields I want a short sword artifact that gives me bard's allegro buff for every attack I do up until like 8 stacks

[nocturne scarab]

what if it applied to everything around you as well

[woven widget]

too busted, imagine that with the new warmaul 💀

[sterile star]

this game genuinely has the worst community ive ever seen everybody hates on the devs when the players are the reason the game is dead

[nocturne scarab]

no no
i mean everything
you'd frag yourself

some rogue comes to train ai on you and doesnt know you have it
you smack a few things a few times
suddenly nightmare thanos with 8x stacked allegro

[coarse star]

No the devs have consistently made bad mistakes and killed the game multiple times

[woven widget]

Yeah my bad dude sorry that I cant bring in new players, teach them all how to play, retain them and have a timmy only map for learning

[sterile star]

they do make mistakes but nobody will point out at the fact that half of the players are cheating or only ratting bro

[sterile star]

your point? this game caters so hard to new players with fighter barb and rogue being broken and taking no skill to play

[woven widget]

this game caters to nobody. Im only here because Im too traumatised to leave

[coarse star]

And we are just lying now. And also they have made some insane mistakes. When the entire community tells you something is a horrible idea, you have tried it before and it hasn't worked. Then you try it again and the game falls to like 2k concurrent

[sterile star]

i agrred that theyve made mistakes so once again your point? devs definitely have a part in it but higher skill classes should be more rewarding then holding w and left click or ratting in a corner

[nocturne scarab]

I thought it was pretty obvious this was hyperbolic rage bait and was not to be taken seriously.

[long mantle]

90% of solo hr is just rouges.

[nocturne scarab]

hsdb% needs nerfing
its not necessarily rogue

[sterile star]

exactly and they all just rat and ruin the game for everybody

[feral kite]

The game needs a goblin casino i can blow gold at on slots and a baccarat table

[coarse star]

Everything you just described is the devs fault

[sterile star]

soooo its the devs fault that people sit in one spot all game waiting?

[nocturne scarab]

I thought it was the community's fault this game is so dead?
Isnt that what you said?

[feral kite]

I blame the wardens

[coarse star]

When they make rat classes op for solos? Are the reason the melee pvp is still holding left click. And have deliberately removed anti rat systemsd

[sterile star]

its a mix of both? like i said earlier

[sterile star]

bro the devs dont promote ratting its players choosing to do so ruining the game for others cus they have no life

[celest grove]

almost like the game has multiple characters with different areas of expertise

[nocturne scarab]

How is it the community's fault? If human nature is what it is and a person signs up for it knowingly and expects anything other than that - then is it still the community's fault?

[sterile star]

have you ever played a game called escape from tarkov?

[robust rock]

people complaining dont understand how to play the game and its showing 🤣

[nocturne scarab]

extensively, its why i dont agree that its the community's fault - was even a mod for them so i got to see the childish stupidity over there that i see over here
and like i just said
its human nature
if someone blames the community for that - i say they have an inexperienced life

[sterile star]

nah bro its just cus people suck at playing the game so they have to rat also efts devs have rarely done anything bad to the game yet they lost so many people because a few streamers promote ratting and getting ratted in looter extraction game is infuriating and ruins the game

[nocturne scarab]

so like i said
obvious hyperbole and not to be taken seriously

[celest grove]

so
its human nature
to want to win 1v1s by using game mechanics
YET they cant be upset by that because its in their nature?

[nocturne scarab]

its human nature to want to feel good
the path to it that the devs set up for is a different story
do you want to cherry pick and blow things out of proportion?

[celest grove]

sensitive arent we
im merely trying to grasp ur side of the story cause I just got here

[nocturne scarab]

Okay, anything else?

[celest grove]

idc enough to say much more

• people r too sensitive here so someone somewhere will get upset and it escalates more and more

[nocturne scarab]

If you say so

[left summit]

nerf club dude, no attak pattern, zero skill needed and max moves speed with it out is wild

[celest grove]

anyways
anyone have any data mined info on season rewards

[latent iron]

why 3k players in game

[coarse star]

There is ways to combat ratting and they removed them all and deliberately have made rat playstyles good

[celest grove]

its a work week and its 6k which is about right for a work week tbh

[exotic gorge]

Mid season too

[latent iron]

regardless there is only 3k people at a time in dungeon currently people can be afk in the lobby thats not the important part but still it is like around time people should be off work where i am

[exotic gorge]

Everyone drooling for end of wipe per usual and arena

[latent iron]

legit that is the only fun part of the game arena / artifact arena

[exotic gorge]

Well I enjoy boss farming and highroller pvp a lot different strokes for different folks I like arena and end of wipe

[latent iron]

it really depends all i can say is there should be a squire to riches for hr and squire should not be allowed in regular hr

[celest grove]

people also have like
kids, and work next day
or food to cook
its typically busier onn a work week because of the things u have to do that night after work or for next day

[exotic gorge]

Completely agree makes the kills not worth it

Unless you go in squire and kill someone geared 😭

[latent iron]

400k people in this discord and every single one of them except a few 3k or so can be in the dungeon in a wide array of ages i guess thats fair

[latent iron]

this is also true

kinda just sad to see when all i really want is to play arena and test out different builds

[deep musk]

Game needs to wipe so much quicker than 3 months. People are endgame in a week.

[latent iron]

Not TRUE SDF WILL TAKE US TO THE MOON

[timber orbit]

getting to endgame should be a longer and more fulfilling process then. but personally, i’ve never played a wipe to the extent that i decide it’s time to farm relics. i just do my quests unlock my crafts and do HR

[latent iron]

quests should be harder and there be less of them

[timber orbit]

the removal of escape conditions on many of them actually did make it a lot more simple

[nocturne scarab]

if people are end game in a week - then its clear there are some obvious disagreements in what end game is
if you are full unique +all bis with chests/etc and all artifacts g2g in a week + quests completed...
how many ppl do you have playing your account and who is your dealer?

asking for a friend*

[timber orbit]

yeah i figure the idea of endgame is drastically different for many people. my vision of the endgame are people who farm relics and actually use them, because this is a state i’ve never actually made the effort to reach

people who wear full blue kits in norms all day are unfortunately not really endgame in my book

[latent iron]

usually all paid for by a certain demographic that makes money off this game

[woven widget]

my dealer is cam

[timber orbit]

hey, no. you’re going to the no no corner, danothy

[woven widget]

Connected by light aaah

[timber orbit]

i’m going to summon the empress of light in your house

[nocturne scarab]

as long as its not the red and blue light empres he should b good

[woven widget]

yeah, they'd probably put me away if I was meeting with a dealer while on probation

[nocturne scarab]

cops showed up:
oh nice a 1v3

a few seconds later crying that all cops are ranger mains

[rotund stag]

remove random hr=happy players

[main kernel]

Game is full of nothing but gold buyers

[tawdry citrus]

What type of anticheat is ironshield?

[deep musk]

remove bard warlock druid sorceror ice map and water map

[woven widget]

A mix between kernel and shittest inhouse anti cheat Ive ever seen

[mellow pond]

bro my friend just got scammed for 2 chest how can i report for scamming he has the recording and everything

[dusk plume]

Anyone know where I can get a dark and darker hoodie?

[tough portal]

yea

[mellow pond]

bro mods someone pls help

[fossil copper]

friend didnt look at the item he clicked trade on or what?

[mellow pond]

no it was a kit trade

what do i do?

[storm hazel]

dont get scammed again

[mellow pond]

bro are u serious how can i get them banned

[fossil copper]

no

[woven widget]

scamming is not bannable

[deep musk]

you dont get banned for scamming

[mellow pond]

are u serious

[fossil copper]

they dont enforce trade scams, most games dont

[deep musk]

you expect them to give a fuck about your time?

[woven widget]

yes, skill issue thats on you man

[celest grove]

devs arent gonna ban someone for being a silly guy and not read

[mellow pond]

breh

[storm hazel]

imagine crying about getting scammed on a dead game lmao

[deep musk]

good chance to tell your homie to cut his losses and hop on arc

[tough portal]

but if you scam a mod the mods will cry like little b words and ban you like losers (knows from experice)

[celest grove]

know ur enemy

[storm hazel]

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

[tough portal]

you are my enemy

[celest grove]

u dont know anything about me tho

[woven widget]

the enemy of my friend is my friend's enemy and I am my friend's friend

[tough portal]

yes i do saki (discord name btw)

[celest grove]

its short for my full name
so wrong lol

[tough portal]

yea your full name is sakimoto

[storm hazel]

you are my female dog

[celest grove]

LMFAO
no no its not

[woven widget]

Im fine with this

[fossil copper]

i said bros username and got flagged lol

[storm hazel]

tacos and tequila.... naked?

[woven widget]

[storm hazel]

i bet adams getting scammed again

[latent iron]

adam 22 ?

[broken pagoda]

adam 23

[storm hazel]

adam 24

[pallid moon]

Giving pve it's own hr mode with legendary loot is such a dumb decision.

[storm kernel]

Does anyone know if there's a higher chance of getting the Ancient Stingray Egg in PvP than in PvE? I've only seen clips of people getting it in PvE.

[drifting scaffold]

much higher, if human remains rate is any indication

[drifting scaffold]

It’s normal mode but worse drop rate? Yea seems fair

[latent iron]

is there dungeon recovery in pve ?

[storm hazel]

not in hr pve but in reg yea

[latent iron]

OH ggz AHAHHAHAAHAHAHH

[supple drift]

oh, the human remains. i have that quest. where do i get it, may i ask?

[delicate bobcat]

DAY TWO OF POSTING IN ALL CAPS UNTIL THE DEVS GIVE US MAP SELECTION - PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHICH MAP WE CAN PLAY IN HIGH ROLLER. THIS BEING FORCED TO PLAY MAPS WE DON'T WANT TO SUCKS DONKEY-BALLS. PLEASE GIVE US MAP SELECTION IN HR.

[nocturne scarab]

That's what that strange taste is...

[spare crystal]

DAY TWO OF POSTING IN ALL CAPS UNTIL THE DEVS GIVE US MAP SELECTION - PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHICH MAP WE CAN PLAY IN HIGH ROLLER. THIS BEING FORCED TO PLAY MAPS WE DON'T WANT TO SUCKS DONKEY-BALLS. PLEASE GIVE US MAP SELECTION IN HR. NEW MAP IS DOG SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[pseudo reef]

how far are into this wipe? how long left?

[feral kite]

Rank rewards arent even out we got a while

[true nebula]

DAY TWO OF POSTING IN ALL CAPS UNTIL THE DEVS GIVE US MAP SELECTION - PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHICH MAP WE CAN PLAY IN HIGH ROLLER. THIS BEING FORCED TO PLAY MAPS WE DON'T WANT TO SUCKS DONKEY-BALLS. PLEASE GIVE US MAP SELECTION IN HR.

[pliant mica]

DAY TWO OF POSTING IN ALL CAPS UNTIL THE DEVS GIVE US MAP SELECTION - PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHICH MAP WE CAN PLAY IN HIGH ROLLER. THIS BEING FORCED TO PLAY MAPS WE DON'T WANT TO SUCKS DONKEY-BALLS. PLEASE GIVE US MAP SELECTION IN HR

[honest stag]

SDF ADD HORSES FOR FIGHTER HOOOOOOOOOOLD SDF GCOOK

[visual swallow]

chance to spawn in blood prison module in inferno

[supple drift]

ah ty

[visual swallow]

[pale wagon]

Lol i cant collect my 30k auction gold, i need someone to lend me three chest to fcking collect it xD

[misty ridge]

I agree

YEEHAW

[mighty sparrow]

keep the scams in the trading post

[nocturne scarab]

sdf where are my c4 crossbow bolts

[vast karma]

Games full of braindead coward warlock / magic cheese abusers. Fix this 🐕 💩 game for god sake.

[honest stag]

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD THE LINE GCOOOOOOK SDF

[versed solar]

DAY TWO OF POSTING IN ALL CAPS UNTIL THE DEVS GIVE US lasaga

[vale oar]

Well we did add rowboats, who knows if more vehicle types could arrive in the future

[oak nexus]

you're telling me you dont osrs grind while dnding pve hr?

[vale oar]

Lock in for the 19th

🚣‍♂️

[oak nexus]

we had sailing first

[edgy raven]

Can you pull chest in pve hr

[frigid quest]

Keep it up man

[atomic schooner]

nah you gotta osrs grind while doing 3d modeling or animation

[oak nexus]

I osrs grind while coding at work, no xp waste

[barren sparrow]

how much is lad right now

[cerulean turret]

when do we think this season going to wipe

[keen zephyr]

Maybe next year

[cerulean turret]

i thought like mid dec

[nocturne scarab]

the monday after new year would probably be ideal
so the no lifers like myself can get the most ample head start while you guys are at work

[cerulean turret]

i was hoping soon i became poor ran named for 4 hours died to lazy to sell the loot so im wating for wipe

[tawdry lotus]

loads the game up first time in months and arena isnt even up wack

[cerulean turret]

not like youd have armor if its the first time

[tawdry lotus]

the boys will slide me to lvl 20

[sharp shore]

A auto sort feature, or Jesus just a way to quick store and move gold in and out of bags for the love of God. My fingers can't take any more friction. Oh and a armour chest and weapons chest would be awesome! I end up storing extra kits on other classes and end up never using them because I forget lmao

[jovial cedar]

Gentlemen pls the random maps in HR :(

[pale wagon]

yea im 100% trying to scam someone of their chest in a dead game

[low hedge]

@marsh sonnet Congrats on the wendys job

[slow spoke]

You should go play Arc Raiders instead

It's much better and it's not even a full price game, only 40 bucks.

[atomic schooner]

buy coin bags and put them in stashes

[jagged arch]

the pincushion have any other spawns other than in the far east house?

[atomic schooner]

it is a full price game? its not on sale lol

[slow spoke]

full price = 60

[atomic schooner]

full price is whatever the owners set the price at. its only not at full price when its on sale :)

[slow spoke]

It's okay if you're a little slow.

[mystic spindle]

Who created 60 = full price?

[covert maple]

nerfed longsword into the ground ur game is dying by the day brain rot devs

[slow spoke]

True but it had to be nerfed. Redditors couldn't stop aiming at it

[mystic spindle]

Didn’t last 40 sec into the game lol

[atomic schooner]

just cause its not the weapon your best with doesnt mean its been nerfed into the ground :) i still use the weapon perfectly fine when i play with it

[wispy coral]

why is every item look disgusting to look at now

[atomic schooner]

cause 3d shiny render

[covert maple]

its the only skilled weapon in the game it didnt have to be nerfed was has to be nerfed is warlock, ranger, rogue, barb and classes/subclasses that are actually unbalanced longsword has always been underwhelming and now half the time its basically un usable

[brisk grotto]

Why did they reduce players in maelstorm?

[atomic schooner]

cause there was too many. why else would they?

[covert maple]

it is the the weapon im best with and i gurantee if u joined my lobby rn and 1v1d me i would curb stomp u i have 1500 hours on the weapon it doesnt make sense how a barb is eating 2 riposte and 3 swings from a LS when i have 25 phys power and 5 true the wep is horrible now

[slow spoke]

Redditors couldnt stop aiming at it so it had to be nerfed. Sorry

Also it's already been shadow nerfed anyway with the desync issues so it's more of a meme than anything at this point

[atomic schooner]

1. hit headshots. 2. its a barb. they are one of the tankiest classes in the game, even more so with the vigor buff they got recently. 3. the amount of hrs you have on a weapon doesnt really matter. ive had people that i play with try out other weapons and basically instantly do better with them even tho they have hundreds of hrs on their "main"

[covert maple]

ur not better than me bud go ahead and send me ur name in game rn and i will roll u im literally on HR leaderboard for kills everyweek in duos with a longssword my name is riposte enjoyer and ive used the weapon since playtest 2 so dont try and tell me how the game works ur mental

[slow spoke]

I ended playtest 2 with a purple or yellow one in my hand I dont remember which 🫡

[atomic schooner]

i am not saying that im better then you. im just pointing out things that could be going wrong

[covert maple]

yeah but its not those things its the weapon be underwheling and usuable compared to other classes longsword literally counters nothing now there is zero point in running over shield fighter

[atomic schooner]

if there really was "0 point" in running the weapon then it wouldve been buffed by now. again. i use the weapon perfectly fine

[covert maple]

and u probably on play normals in blues kid like lmao u dont know anything about the game and ive probably dumped on ur head multiple times in raid witht he longsword and im telling u it is not viable at this point running it is just for aura u have to dramatically outplay anyone u fight to win it makes no sense and we have classes like warlock who are 330 ms with book out

[delicate flame]

So the midnight stag got added, but where the hell do we even find it?

[atomic schooner]

i play norms, hr and arena

[slow spoke]

Nobody knows

[pallid fossil]

SO when do i get my solo voice channels?

[supple drift]

dude, you ok? having a bad day?

[storm girder]

Is there a website that shows all the named purple weapons?

[visual swallow]

I see a lot of longswords out there lol

[atomic schooner]

but clearly they are the worst weapon in the game right?

[visual swallow]

can't be worse than viking sword lol

[steady peak]

Forest b in ruins at a very very very low spawn chance

[visual swallow]

oh man I forgot about quarterstaff

[steady peak]

But muh stinky stick

[median shore]

has anyone actually seen the stag or what

[pallid fossil]

no

[steady peak]

Wild to me how there's a quarterstaff named but no spear or many other weapon type named

[visual swallow]

I searched midnight stag on yt but it's all shaving videos

[cedar osprey]

on a scale of 16-24 whats the opinion of heermit crab

[open walrus]

is dark and darker making anyone elses mouse drift

[steady peak]

No one's found it yet because it's a 1/10000 chance spawn in Forest b of ruins

[pallid fossil]

69

[median shore]

source?

[atomic schooner]

coming up with effects that would be good as an artifact but not completely break the game and also coming up with a good design for them takes a bit

[chrome veldt]

There is a spear named now

[unreal tapir]

@proud copper can you korean dogs fix the stuttering, 9800x3d 4080ti