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what changed in later playtests?
anyone found the midnight stag yet
it’s not AI, it’s just the 3d model of the store assets
rumor is there is a highroller PVE mode now
yea but he said dead since p1
i mean
numerous balance changes, classes being over tuned for a long time terrible decisions like gear limits and such
I honestly couldnt even list everything
i was particularily interested what core mechanics were changed in p2 and p3
idk id have to actually ho back and look at patch notes.... but if youve played since the game came out youd know what we mean
pretty dramatic aren’t we
is there any way to reduce the frame drops when you're fighting bladehand and look towards middle of map??
hows your game with 4k players in it bro?
great i'm having a lot of fun. meanwhile ur complaining about a game u dont even play
My 7rd old niece is loving it
ive played this game since before you had to torrent it bc of a copyright strike. you clearly havent played older versions
🫃
yea bud same ur barkin up the wrong tree
wut if you think this looks even remotely decent then you have to be tiktok ai watchers, ICAnt
🫃 <-- average icon complainer.
they're just icons twin chill out lmfao. it doesn't change ur game.
160p ai slop watcher ofc doesnt make any difference for you
“Havent played in a year but I NEED to come into chat and tell everyone how bad the new icons are surely it will convince people to quit this terrible terrible game” LMAO
Vs asset store icons.
I don't have a weird fixation on things that are literally non existent issues. Get over it.
paid actors lmao because of you game has 4k players
wtf are you even talking about
How much is nexon paying you Awer?
put your ai girlfriends in lobby too so you have quicker access to your favorite human 🤣
they just took diff renders of the actual item models for the new icons. some of them are a little too shiny but they're definitely better
you give off the vibes that you really love ai.
changing only things that are good about the game instead ad ones makes sense keep glazing
tfw icons is so important to you that you hyperfixate over it 💀
I love when the 1000th complainer comes in thinking they have it all figured out… there was 999 before you and there will be 999 after you, NOBODY cares about your opinion bud your wasting energy typing.
surely will listen to 2 neckbeards typing all day in a chatbox of a dead game
bro ur literally wearing the tag for the server
Your here too mongo lmao the brainless are dying as we speak
ur prob lvl 20 cleric aoeing adventurer but expert on games
i dont rly play adventure mode its not fun
whats your reddit scores 😂 bet you keep track of every single point or whatever the system is
what are u even talking about bro
Having a melt down because people don’t agree with his shit take
Long live D&D
obese.
Lmao
i’m confused by the arc raiders jorkers, if their game is so perfect why do they come here and talk still
People who have a superiority complex MUST show others that they are wrong in order to feel fulfilment
poor guys 
whos fault ur too old for arc riders?
Ok? At least we are both happy, maybe you should find some enjoyment in life 🙂
I dont get the whole arc raides comparison anyways. Isent arc raiders a completly diffrent style of game? the poster for it dosent really strike me as a pvpve medival/fantasy dungeon extraction game
no one is comparing? just old man typing about arc with some obsession out of blue
this game is more like a medieval fps, less of an extraction game imo
Well it feels like some pepole do since i keep hearing pepole say it would kill Dark and Darker for some reason
100% but unfortunately people who get absolutely thrashed in this game need to find any bit of fodder to throw back at the community
it killed many games temporarily because of its success, overall makes no difference
I wouldent say killed in that case its kinda normal for big relases to drop playrates of other games for a while since everyone trys out the big new thing (im pretty sure you could Argue Helldivers "killed" games if we go with that logic after all :P)
brother the obsession here is you with this game, your replies saying stuff like “your game is dead” pretty clearly signifies you don’t play anymore, so get your fan ass out of our discord talking random shit
holy still going didnt read dont care you die before me
poor kid can’t read 2 sentences
Feels bad man
50 btw
god bless whatever education system created you
A product of tiktok surely
bruh wtf is going on, is this man paid by arc or smth?
It happens all the time. hasn’t played in a while, got dismembered first match, uninstalled and came here to tell us
how obsessed you are about that game holy, free promo dad mods should ban you ppl
Wtf is the midnight stag I can't find any info about it?
i just don’t get it
i hate sdf too, if i found something else i enjoyed, the last thing id be doing is coming to this cord talking shit i’d go have fun
truly fan behavior
no way bro change his tag
idk if anyone has any actual proof of anything regarding it yet
@wind juniper I assumed I was invisible or spawns at a set time
it’s certainly not just chillin in game, or if it is, he’s a very well hidden mf, some people are speculating maybe spawn conditions like banshee and spec being dead or some shit having to do with the zone, but i’m yet to see anything
Awer is still fixating over the icons? Damn bro ADHD getting rough out here nowadays
@wind juniper having both bosses dead is a good idea might have something to do with it I have been throwing ghostdust powder into corners of ruins
lil gup learned one world and spams fixate this fixate that like whaa? you good, take meds
check yoself before you wreck yoself.
no one is talking about it for like a hour i feel sorry for whatever spawned you
wait you've been in this chat for the last hour crying? That's wild.
my brother in christ, the word fixate is nowhere in my chatting history, please try again
go for a walk bro its not that deep. take a breath its just a game that had a lil update you don't like.
would be funny to walk in a module seeing someone do that, not a bad idea either though
ur trying to ragebait but you are just horrible at it pup
Awer when he has 1/10 ragebait then calls out others for ragebait 😢
speaking of fixate, big fan of the word pup and gup eh?
idk u seem pretty raged
like you wanna be your favorite streamer or tiktoker so bad that it shows and its cringe @winged citrus
My favorite streamer is myself. so yeah i do wanna be like my favorite streamer! he's so cool and quirky
yeah dude stop acting like skinny pete
so raged 2nd monitor typing will forget you in 5 min uh oh
poor guy lost his only gun in arc so he came here to talk shit and feel better 
are there any artifact quests this wipe?
dead game
I’ve tested a lot of these conditions so far nothing worked, I think it may just be a random spawn like the named mobs but, there is definitely new items in the trade system.
no i think it only goes to unique this whipe
does anyone know how long ago was the last wipe?
who here is experinced with tm lock
#warlock 90% of this channel right here
so you
no Im a DO build but im like
one of the single digit amount of people who use it
Bard op just watched my team mate full kill someone with songs through the wall in arena
bard is ass
i too accept my fate and simply sit inside of din for the 20+ seconds it takes to fully kill me, there's literally nothing anyone can do about it
all i know is i wanna see a damn stag
damn that awer kid finally got more crayons to eat?
Is there a new updates module map chart? I just wanna know where all the ore spawns lmao.
Any abyssal spear clips yet?
crazy how you can put words together after being feed with a deek all your life @ionic patrol
assuming this has all maps, either way thank you chief!
all but the water, but it's got updated caves and abyss
yeah im having the same problem, since fps drops on bladehand are so huge, he also hits me sometimes since desync
holy ur so useless and waste of oxygen Reepot69 at least type something funny or hurtful, blocked dont waste server space
awwwww ur so cute
i lost most of mine this morning then 2v3’d a squad of fully leveled venators and ospreys because they were too shrewd to use a wolfpack on a rocketeer at extract
fed me for the next week lol
i know most of those words cause i've watched the game but you gotta be careful casting those spells magic man
has anyone tried chopping trees down to spawn stag?
crayons are damn delicious
have you ever watched Bambi? cast fireballs at the trees.
wait a second u might be cooking
ARENA
LOOKING FOR 3rd
WIZARD/RANGER + YOU
DM ME!
why not just let me pick my HR maps sdf? why? 
#1 thing to do in HR GC : LEAVE
why cant i laugh react
HAAH
@wheat tapir Cleric nerfs when?
has this game gotten better like after hotfix 70-80
smack goblins
is the midnight stag real?
Mhm
10 more bad updates to get something good
Smack goblins while 3 rogues hide behind doors
yes
where is the stag
I'd rather smack skellys in ruins with rogues camping there, makes me feel more safe 🧐
personally i like my map with as many rogue double jump spots as possible



Yo genuinely does anyone have 20 bucks I could borrow
i aint even gonna reply to this with what i wanna say g this discord becoming like the north korean govt
you just did, but i saved the red one for you. i always come prepared
the offer for the red crayon is still on the table 
does anybody know what are the names of the new artifacts and what are their special abilities?
guys does the new hr adventure have good loot
no
I used to make 1000-2000 per run on normal PvE (used a 500 luck build back then), killing all bosses in the castle map. Now that the loot is up from epic to legendary, I can expect 3000-4000 per run, which is not nessessary good, but at least you can farm in peace without being afraid of pvp
Yo question if i die in adventure mode do i lose my kit ?
anyone speak gibbondese
gibb on dese nuts
In High Roller, or Normal Adventure Mode?
Norms
In hr pve you’ll lose the kit
You keep it
Well, you can buy it back from the Goblin Merchant when the round ends
Has anyone seen the stag yet or nah
ok thank you been a min since i played
when is the next wipe? tired of this hr map bs
where is the stag
bold of you to assume next wipe won’t be any different
naw it better be
2026
if I wanted to play a water map id go to a different game smh
btw even if they wipe, everyone is in pve lol the game lost is soul
i got bored after 2-3 games because no pvp or everyones friendly and dont fight back lol
game sux, play it til it dies and we all move on 
Is the game lagging for you guys?
logged on to play arena. fire ball fireball curse. exit game haha. sessions getting shorter and shorter these days
this game is fucking ass why am i getting 2 tapped by a book
i keep getting trolled by tm8s
DnD balancing: "Anything:" Reduced, Reduced, Reduced ,Reduced ,Reduced,Reduced. Game balance is fixed.
and who the hell thought pirates was going to save the game?
sdf, add tanks
and pregnant motor cycles
attack choppers too
sdf, how many redstone shards for you to get pregnant like a goblin
sdf, his balls are in your court
please respond
was there like a recent wipe or when is the next one?
the last one was like 2 months ago nearly
ok thanks
Will the religion event end in 4 hours? Can money still be deposited?
just rankings calculation, rewards go all season
golden book of doom
add pregnant motorcycles
Im sick of pregnant goblins, give me pregnant motorcycles
Where does the Stag spawn?
why does the stag spawn
can anyone help me with ghost king? And maybe lich too for quest.
don’t act like you know the way ahead like you know the rules, there are no rules man we’re lawst
im so bored of video games 

Buff _______
did they make it so you lose oxygen quicker in the water map?
next they need to add a heaven map you access by taking a white portal in ruins and you have to fly around like youre underwater but through the sky
the game is too dark now
at least the wizards won't cry about fireballs in heaven
High roller Adventure anyone lookin for 3rd
wiz / Ranger + YOU!|
DM ME!
I fr can't understand how yall are playing this terrible game when Arc Raiders is a thing. Yall like the flip flop changes and terrible decision making?
i came for dnd arc is not dnd
"flip flop changes and terrible decision making" just sounds like skill issue
Why are you talking like you doorman ulted a Dark and Darker fan
"and its ice map... and.... im dead! and the whole lobby is squire, and one is a club barbarian, one is a druid, and other is sorc"
(this is the game rn)
welcome to the baroness hotel
nah they just need to change axe mastery for the 5th time and take away modifiers again and then the game will be good
nah they just need to finish up giving every single barbarian weapon an artifact so that we can move on to round 2 of every single barbarian artifact
Who is the door man
when are they going to do the squire thing so like 0-24, 25-124, -125+ for the gear score cuz its pointless running blue when i only ever acquire epic
bro we're running full unique bis with artifacts and the whole lobby is squire
If HR is such a minority of players, why are we not able to map select? Not like it matters
TBONE112
460k in ARC Raiders Nexon won gg
oh well i dont want to run hr cuz nightmares so i normaly stick with Norm but okay ig i see your point
yep thats my fighter account, you're definitely one of them lmao
nexon is lucky they get to put their name as an association those goofballs can't make a good game either
nice to meet you man! do you remember a hacker who’s lvl 99?
yea is that u?
yea 😄
I LOVE TEAMERS IN HR LMFAOOOOO
lvl99hacker knows all about that
were they barbs perchance
Yea I like to Que duos and trios with my teammates type beat
yea how u got 2 wizards on ur team at once then
that’s my teammate
according to the lobby, your teamate was a full squire getting killed by mobs 4 modules over
wdym
well they can quesnipe lol
ggs
sheee thank @proud copper
thank you @proud copper for letting this dude and his friend double fireball spam me down a hallway lmao
i cannot believe what they let sdf do to this game bro what a fking shame
what does the huntress gold emblem do?
you can remove the foil on the outside and its chocolate
uhh how do you do that?
Typically Ill take it and slightly bite on the ridge but if you have nails you can slide those between the two halves
...
would anyone mind helping me kill lich and ghost king? If you can solo it I just need to be in your party for it to count towards the quest. I can pay 2k gold per each
sorry lad, technically against the server rules and graysun will shoot you with his laser eyes
it's against the rules to help someone with their quests?
wait what
yeah, dont blame me
that's kind of dumb, but I guess thanks for the info
theres no way thats so stupid
[17] - Discussing or advertising cheats/exploits/in-game services (including in-game carries) is forbidden including websites, servers or other platforms.
HAHA
dawg but game carries like what if you help but you die but your "teamate" kills it for you would that be considered carrying or helping
lol then does anyone want to farm ghost king and lich with me
take it up with the wardens that said youre not allowed
I'm trying to learn them and could use the company
ik a bit of both just not throughly plus i just got back nn the game after like 5 months of no gameplay so i dont mind helping just am level like 4 and i'll have to get used to it
MORE CLASSES WITH LONGBOW LONGSWORD ON EVERYONE FUCK IT
GUYS IF I HAVE NO SELF RESPECT WHAT CLASS SHOULD I PLAY
ok then. I have trouble with GKs jump attack. Lich isn't really a problem. What your character name
he goes up, he goes back down, he goes up again, jump
They sharpened up his bs
just dont be on the floor
yo where the hell is midnight stag
jump and stay floating 
midnight stag causes the midnight curse (the timer)
guyz
camz
<@&988703997378584596> not dark content?
#dnd-content message
hii cam!!!:3
hiya friend
am I not a friend? 😔
you are friend ham daniel
a ham danwich, some in tavern chat would say
Cast & Caster, Hogwarts Legacy ahh game. Magic glazing unbalanced 🗑
Who up glazing they ham sandwich
why cant i agree to the terms :/
because your morals and beliefs dont follow them
i just cant click the check mark for some reason 😭
@everyone will you get your kit back if you die in pve hr?
Someone didn't read the patch notes
real
please go ahead and instantly root me to the ground for the rest of the game as soon as i touch a spiderweb from the nightmare giant spider thanks sdf really good change there
sdf do you know that when the root debuff wears off, it instantly triggers again and roots you again?
Love ONLY fighting Wizards Warlocks Druids and Sorcerers sooooo fun to ONLY fight cheese BS magic classes. Fix this 🐕 💩 game for once god damn. How fcking detached and jaded can you be?
How has there been no pics or any info on the midnight stag yet
Just play rogue 👍
Ah yes get 1 tapped easier. Or my favorite head shot by others while invis
Barb tears are shed when one shots are mentioned without reckless in discussion
<@&988703997378584596> #dnd-content message scammer
remove that lame ass spellbook who thought this was a good idea
just block it
getting two tapped by rogues with a fucking spellbook
just use a shield then or parry it
oh noooo. have you tried using the book?
it literally only has the swinging down attack animation. just block it
no I know, Im just saying that the book is pretty fun so yk
Bring back Season 5 High roller
bring back og fortnite and my childhood friends
Bring back my dead dog
U don’t have friends soooo….
why are you being mean to me. Warden break his legs
LMFAO
I will say, Im happy they made a light gauntlet craft. I am sad that we didnt get frostlight light gauntlets considering the gloves were introduced before the gearset and so now were stuck with the 2% debuff duration gloves of doom and misery 
okay i never played water map, and i only play HR, how the fk do u extract
boats, portals, static slipstream extracts, row boats
i tried lining up my rowboat on the boat icons at edge of map but nothing happens
that is for the moving boat extracts
move towards one of the boats sat right at the edge of the map, line up with the two hooks
moving boat? like the moving ships?
yes, you have a row boat, the navigator sails a big boat
think ice map rafts
how do u get on the moving ships, the ones moving around
was rowing to one but i got sniped by players so im just wondering for next time how to gtfo
the nets are ladders but you can also hop on at a dock when it stops
thx
can someone kill wyvern for me?
i have to extract from hell but when i do i can. deal is i get all the loot/froststone
let me hold 50g
50g too much. you get 5g
thats fine, i just need the quest
Im John 50g, you cannot deny me the purse
shit i didn't know it was you big j, you can have 3 50gs
ready
Are they still saying they're not killing the game on purpose?
they never claimed they werent
meet in gathering hall?
which
english
french
WHY
make arena perma open so i have a reason to play this game
the 1 game mode that keeps me on this game is gone...you could do so much better with it also like where is the 1v1 arenas or 2v2 arenas
gotta love the game disconnecting and losing my kit
2v2 arenas would be dope
whats the meta
arc raiders is rn
Rogue and Ranger the two most fun classes to play against
anyone else on windows 10 not able to start the game anymore? getting error 23 when i try to start the game
Okay didn’t think I’d be doing this but I’m giving dark and darker brownie points. Better communication than Arc. Y’all have duos. The servers are surprisingly better somehow on DaD. Astonishingly maybe it’s not so bad 😂. A few more updates that are banger and I may be back
I have 29 of 30 coins to get the chest...
so close but so far
Arena availability doesn't follow Daylight savings 
just left the last arena game of the weekend, gg guys. Im off to arc
Good riddance
you make me feel so unwelcome 😔
have fun brother
getting error 23 when i try to start the game, drivers all updated computer is updated, tried all options i could find online, except "turn on TPM 2.0, which i cant do since im on windows 10 on an older MB, can i just not play anymore?
I still need to get a few bombardier cells, I would rather be in arena but yk why not fight the robot menace
fire damage fire damage fire damage
thats leapers, bombardiers much prefer to be blown up or shot in the knees
true then shoot the back but fire damage feels universal, the mines damn near one shot raiders and the mollies make quick work of stuff 😮
solo queue is impossible now, if you get water map your done for if you dont have range or a druid
at least you can queue up, i cant get the game to open, error 23
im tired of getting stat checked as a fighter. what class does not need a stat check? wizard?
you're the fighter u should stat check ppl lmao
Yo the spotify uploads are dope, I knew the game was a marketing gimmick for their music careers. Well played IronBass
i guess im poor then.. im seeing bis gears in hr. like bard with full movement speed, healing drink, true phys bow. or cleric/barb with abusive club, or wizard/sorcerer just deletes me. it's so hard to win as a shield fighter. what to do?
I mean this session has been up for like 2ish months now so of course people are in BiS by now, especially in HR
yeah.. i supposed so.. oh well.
How can i report a player ?? @grand drift @marsh moon @neat mesa @proper anvil @worn rain @nimble saffron
If it's an in-game issue, you can report it in detail by pressing the ESC button. You can also report it on the spectator screen.
i want to report in discord with a video proof, game report is useless
I don't know why Ironmace is trying to pump out maps rather than a map randomization tool.. They could've had a good one built and up and running by now, giving endless new maps instead of continuously splitting queues into multiple maps that get old because they're static.
Bring the magic of discovery back, and randomize maps fully.
If it's an issue within Discord, please create a ticket here: https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1064421075464761414
The more detailed information you can provide, the quicker it will be resolved.
Sorry for not explaining, i want to report two players teaming for 3 wipes now and still haven't get banned. the game report is useless i reported them 50 times yet they still teaming in solos, where can i report them in discord?
There is no report function in Discord as the discord server does not handle in-game issues like bans and technical problems. You must report the players breaking the rules in-game or via the website, submitting as much evidence as possible.
The website can be accessed by being in-game, pressing Escape>Support>Report a player. This opens a new tab on your Internet browser
finally got the game to start again FFS
I see, this is an in-game issue, not a Discord issue. You can report it with video evidence at this link: https://www.darkanddarker.com/support/search/38982216155412. It's reported through the in-game UI, but it's actually a new reporting format via the website. We recommend reporting it there for a faster response.
How do i report a bug? there's a fly flying around my room and it's really fucking annoying me
I recommend going to a home improvement store
What am I going to do, build the fly a house? 
Can someone help me out my game randomly just started stuttering like crazy? It’s like this in every match now it’s not an internet issue and my gpu or cpu isn’t maxing out I’m just rubber banding EVERYWHERE like even if I’m just standing still I’ll teleport
First, check out Minecraft. Then, build your own house in the dad gathering hall. I wish dad had a "My House" feature
One day my friend, one day. 
For the cheap price of $4.99 

In my personal experience, I have had the issue resolved by doing a clean install of the GPU drivers and dark and darker.
Its literally the game running like shit, Idk why but the patch 98 made it rubber band and micro stutters
@proud copper give us artifact arenas or just sunset the game pls you are trash at developing
servers have been iong that for a few patches tbh they need to just sunset the game at this point. only way its hitting 10k is through arenas
It's hitting 3k when arena open, game bout to die
thats a lie it hit 10k this weekend cause of arena
Nah literally the game, something is making people have horrible performance like this and it was never like this before. It only affects some people too not all
imagine have 400k people on tha discord and have only 5k playing, its sad to see this
Wait why they added this new map to HR… seriously this new map is crap
I would play but since I hit Demi there’s no point
Tee hee
when i left the game barb and barber it was like 10k players what happend¿?
The housing and social features are what will make Dark and Darker stand out from its competitors in the future in my opinion.
The scope that IM has for the game seems to cover a lot of things that competitors outright will not aim to compete with DaD with.
I believe there may be a good amount of competitors that have the chance of beating out dark and darker in the immediate sense, the dungeon delving experience, an arena mode, what players want out of a game like this, etc. given the content scope currently available.
I think competitors are gunning to compete with the main loop, the main vibe and overall gameplay experience and feel.
However, I believe the full scope of what IM actually wants to achieve is a little bit larger of a scope than what these new projects seem to be aiming for.
That the social features such as guilds and housing features such as gathering hall will be part of what differentiates dark and darker going forward, as similar titles establish themselves.
I'm not sure that it means DaD will succeed long term, but I do think that even if there are better immediate alternatives, there will likely never be a title that aims to compete with the scope and vision Ironmace has for their game, but instead the current experience the game provides, has provided in the past & what it promises to provide in the immediate future.
IM will have a really hard time bringing anyone back long term with any immediate change in the short term imo bc of stuff like this, people pleasing wont work bc there will be other competitors with higher rapport already aiming to please disgruntled dad players, I think IM has no choice but to lock into their decisions and move forward, as no matter what they do, the immediate seems to be rather inconsequential.
i think that is a nice point of view
i love how ironmace knew that nobodies plays their shit water map and then they made hr unplayable by adding it into the rotation that shouldnt exist. coulve been a good patch but leave it up to ironmace to disappoint. its impressive how terrible they are making good decisions.
i got back to the game yesterday, and i already hate that map
the water map is great, lots of loot and cool places to explore. just cause your bad doesn't mean its a bad map
The map isn’t too bad besides the fact I get no frames on it
its fckn terrible, its buggy, the mobs suck, wizard just cant play the game on that map, its laggy, and its all rng for some reason. whoevers decision it was to push this shit to live servers needs to be deleted
i played like a round or two on the water map post patch and ngl its the first time ive seen it run at 80fps, was weird seeing smooth animations for the first time ever haha
luckly for me, i don´t even have stable 60 frames
its a good map for anything besides, like, playing the game like any other map
wizard is one of the strongest water characters with magic missle......
weird how the performance is so spotty from person to person
sure but make me unable to use my other spells on 90% of the map, great idea
Just play ruins bro easy for new players
just finished a round of it, it was truly terrible especially with storm
yk you dont have to go in the water...
they should make Magic Missile have homing on PVE targets but not PVP targets in water, instead of no homing at all.
IMO
you can swim and now that its faster it feels much better, row a boat to the islands or just swim under water and get the chests... what did you think a water map would be?
yeah, but thats the whole point, i dont want to play a water map unless i'm in the mood for it
and they just dump it in the rotation
you arent a real human, be fr for one second. 90% of the map is water...
stay on islands? rotate to other islands with a boat?
i´m not bad because, i already said that, i play before like 500 hours, but my problem is spend like 10 hours to do missions (i´m spanish my gramatic is sht)
well... IM wants you to play all their maps. If/until they put back map selection this is the way
if i want loot ice caverns is literally a billion times faster and easier
yeah and this is im's problem, they want to force the playerbase to do a thing they have to data to know it won't like, and they do it anyway
any form to do money, apart doing pvp or farm bosses? (i cant do pvp because i dont have money for a proper kit D:)
do bosses heal when reset?
yes
just say you dont play hr against people with half a brain cell, i spawn in no where near a boat. have to fight annoying ass mobs, immediately run into 2 separate teams with double ranged. somehow get onto a boat and then oop, theres 2 rangers and fighters with crossbows smacking me on my boat. with no counter-play, and as they swim up onto shore i can only use 1 of my 4 offensive spells because that maps sucks ass. and i dont have a choice.
How’s my goated game coming along?
how much? just completly full or is it worth to reset them
im sorry that you cant play the map like every other map becuase its different 💔
I generally agree. I think it's also important to enrich the dungeon experience in the main content and make it more enjoyable. Strengthening the interrelationships between content will attract a more diverse user base and improve the gaming experience with friends. It might be more fun to add more interrelationships, like in MMOs or casual PVE games.
it just reset. full hp
They reset Fully if u wanna stop this have a buddy use plays druid run around the room in rat form
classic "everyone in the game is better then me no matter" syndrome
guys is 1 phys power better than 0.9 phys damage bonus? for socketing head
me when im playing wizard and get countered by my counters
the lack of comprehensive skill you have is impressive. idk how you came to that conclusion but go you...
i quite literally CANT play that map like every other map when i cant cast 3 of my 4 spells on 90% of the map. idk how thats hard to understand
Playing a mage on a map that's practically open must be tough.
dont try to argue with dark and darker players, they are mad that their favorite game is going to be dead in 2 months because their developers couldn't care less about it
wait you cant play the different map like the other maps becuase its different? thats rough dude
bold of you to assume i have a friend who plays this game
its so weird that when people realize they are dumb they start trying to rage bait...
i've met quite a few people threw here
its so weird how people refuse to adapt to a different style of play when there playing a different map
#gobo merchant for warden 🙂
room temp iq, i wish you luck in life.
nice falling for the ragebait you are as room temp iq as them, I'd wanna ragebait and make fun of you too considering how low iq you are
i´m sorry i speak spansh, my gramatical is shit, i don´t understand u
@proud copper @hexed adder you guys gonna do something before your game dies
#gobo merchant for warden 🙂
i undestand it now, thanks for the ¨flattery¨
glad to see that the targeted audience is enjoying their game rn. it was never made for people who are competitive and or good at their game. i hope you continue to like i once did. and your welcome.
bro if you're gonna comment on someone's IQ at least use 'your' and 'you're' correctly 

i don´t undestand why u say that when i agree that i hate the map...
i got it on my next attempt HOLY SHIT this game is amazing genuinly i dont think if i can ever go back to darksouls bosses when this exists
Make arena 24/7 instant 6k plus added to player count
u just get raigbaited by other people, And now you're taking it out on me... well that sucks
sadly if the devs don´t do something the game is gonna die in two months
if they shoot rogues in the head +20k trust me on this one
lol thats a good one
which boss if i may ask
anyone got a chest from HR pve?
maybe warlord?
#notallrogues
skeleton with a sword or a staff
spectral knight for the armorsmith quest, absolutely amazing fight i used longsword and just threw 100 squire kits on fighter at it
(most deaths were from pvp on the way ngl)
I just assumed he was talking about the warlord
ah yes the spectrul he was fun to learn easier boss just wait till u goto learn warlord just like him but with minions
warlords the big green skeleton boss right? He blew me up before
i agree with this goblin
awe i cant put a picture in here till im a warden lamee
hes not green unless u have low valiance on i think
one of two bosses that spawns in the second floor of the crypts
he has a skull face with horns formed into a crown and skull belt buckle
together with the lich, yeah hes the guy who summs like 600 assasins and chains them together and teleports them around snd stuff right
the other one is a wizard necromancer (lich)
yes yes
why is the water map referred to as the blue maelstrom in some places and the ship graveyard in other places
lich jus summons normal ads / fun fact HR warlords minions are the same HP as normals
i could be wrong but i think bc the locale is blue maelstrom and the layer is ship graveyard essentially
+1
So y'know how we have The Ruins, The Howling Crypts, and The Inferno? But those are all "The Forgotten Castle"?
The Blue Maelstrom is the map's name, whereas Ship Graveyard is the first layers name. But since there's no second or third layer they're pretty synonymous
dark and darker worth playing in the big 25?
the what now
answer the question eddy
i could attempt that if i knew what the question is asking
lol i was just curious if most people still liked the game or if its just bad update after bad update
imo every class has a fun way to play and can be strong atm with a good team comp
this patch is pretty bad, forced water map in random queues, greater instability, barb buff for no reason
it's playable but it's not a good update
personal preferences i play more casual when my buddy hops on compared to 24/7 like i use to i enjoy the game a bit still , Star citizen consumed me
lmao i have been DYING to play that game today and its been nothing but a buggy mess
aw man. well dang. guess ill just wait even longer i suppose
its a bit buggy not as bad as everyone says tho i may just be lucky tho
maybe instead of ruining the game by making all the items look ugly in ur stash we should get a better anti cheat so people will actually want to play HR
its way more then a bit buggy, personally i love it, i just meant today in particular its not been very kind to me in the raft
ah ok i use a c2 so i havent had that problem ive heard alot of bad things about the raft
im working on buying the 890 jump rn im like 25% there
i added you on discord if u ever wanna play sometime
blue maelstrom is the dumbest design map ever i will be quitting until its removed from the map pool no wonder this game is dying at this rate its playerbase is going to be lower than my fame
im LEAVING
I agree I dont think it would be in the pool for highroller as well it ruins it for me
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET US PICK THE GOD DAMN MAP WE WANT TO PLAY IN HIGH ROLLER. THIS FORCED TO PLAY MAPS YOU DON"T WANT TOO IS BULLSHIT.
what do ppl hate water map? Its really fun! all new stuff and TONS of loot
what is the best build for rog?
control panel -> applications -> uninstall dark and darker
All I want to play is Water map.
me too, I think its great fun!
slow movement + circle, uneven pvp
any news on the stag ?
also it's completely wide open, which is okay sometimes but its like 90% of the map
I agree that the Ring did not need to be included in the water map. The ring can be done away with entirely.
everyone should be doing this right now
haven't played this game in months maybe a year how is the state of the game rn guys
LOL
ill take that as still unplayable
Fellas is the steam version broken or some shit it wont like me agree to the ELUA
how does the goblin fella work and how do i get insurance?
insurance is only for PVE deaths, and highroller pve does not have insurance.
lol this game is dead
FIX THE WAY BANS WORK THERE ARE PPL WHO SPAWN HIT YOU TO 1 HP BUT DONT GET BANNED BUT I TK THEM BC I KEEP GETTING THEM AND I GET A 1000 SECOND BAN YOU NEED TO FIX THIS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@proud copper @hexed adder
a thousand seconds s like a little toilet break and some water just take a little break
its still annoying to get when im not the one whos being a troll it seems like 50% of the game right now is doing this or playing rouge its getting old and the game is slowing dropping in real players
Remove random maps already, so gigga boring getting ice caves and water map over and over
Yooo who’s down to goon
gooning is bad for you
Imagine wanting crypts 🤮 or Gooner Cave
anyone not able to see friends list?>
i cant see my friend list wtf
same
I can't connect to the server at all
neither
I cant even get into a game, "cant connect to server"
MAN DA FUCK IS THIS
🇫
@hexed adder @proud copper i cant see my friends and your support team doesn't respond to me
cant join party with friend aka im not playing the game

failed to connect to server. quit the game.
sum new everyday
i was in a queue for solo hr for nearly 10 mins, thought it was just me
nah dawg
Did the servers just shut off?
nothing works, cant invite friends, cant search players, cant join Gathering Halls fixed
EVERYBODY PANIC AND REPEAT EACH OTHER AHHHHHHHH!!!!
is there a new none outdated map of the game? Id rlly like to know where i use keys
WHAT CLUES???
context
game down? wont load for me
Hello? Any word from the devs on this situation?
@soft junco darkanddarkertracker has up to date maps except the water one
Devs said it should be back up in 15 minutes at most
ok
thanks bro
ty
where do i get candy corn , I can barley find them
how did you know this?
Is it not already back up brother? question less next time
Why did my warlock lose its jewelry and cape. Also some ultility items?
im stuck in finding match
trash ass game and devs
Ques worked somewhat but were a little broken you could have gotten into game but didnt see it and lost the kit
My friends got it back up and working quite quickly relax
wait so am i about to lose my kit because im stuck finding a match??
what worked for me was hitting escape and "change character" it then closed my game and when I opened it was in match
dam ive been in q for 8 mins
everyone becareful blatant cheater running around in us east fighter in biss
its fine it was just garbage anyway lol
Does anyone know any servers where someone would buy me my shien wishlist😭
where is the midnight stag?
same haha
does anyone have a list of all the items that were added this update?
why we can not have 1vs1 arena and betting some items against eacher other. It will be fun and not complicate feature to add to the game
protect this man at all costs
clip n report
DAMN thats a player drop if ive ever seen one
anyone trying to run queen?
Can you get artifacts from cyclops?
does stag spawn once u kill both ruins bosses
Better question. Does stag spawn?
anyone data mine the new artifacts, id like to know their effects
is the game worth going back to?
no
dam was water map even any good?
I like it, not for the pvp but for the loot
suck for soc and wiz
dam that sucks i also heard you could control or play as the skeletons or something?
when is the last day of rank this season
1v1 arena would be great🙏
Tried to give a chance to the sorcerer in normal... its IMPOSSIBLE because of landmine rogue. 3 partied. Fair 1vs1 arena, direct fight, no boring mob cleaning. It will.be really cool.
its not. u still can cast non fire spells under water and easily deal damage to slowed underwater targets, cus u have spells which hit immediately, unlike arrows which are also slowed under water
yeh he just bad
indeed.com my friend
findom in 2025
sorc op, imbalanced. try wizard in solos, it is weaker to landmine rogues. but i managed to make a build that can help with that. shields, slow from passive ice perk
Silent and ur done. Kills feed at top right of screen is rarely made by casters
Sorcerer against barb and fighter including breakthrough perk is a terrible challenge
Its a pity because sorcerer is so fun to play.
silence is a different story. if u played rogue then u know that it is a situational skill, if u equip that = u good against casters but bad against non-casters. so few people equip it. and still sorc is still a strong class
buying ancient egg for 7 spec bags
lol. its not a terrible challenge it is usual challenge to any class that do not have op abilities to constantly push target 1000m away like sorc do
I rarely see sorcerer or wizard in boss room or gold room.
Without being able to push the opponent away as a sorcerer you are quite out
Rage and rush + iron will ur literally over
wizards is weak in solos 100%, few peoples play it. but there is a lot of sorc. idk about ur kill feed
Im talking about normal, you too?
yeah cuz they get wkeyed by barbs or fighters and in close quarters ain shit they can do
so u think that only sorcerer have this problem? any ranged class have that problem, but no one have suach an op set of skills to push target away
y dont yall jus dm each other lmao
Yes its the meaning. Hard time for them
yeah, im talking about normals. more about solos cus i play it more often
The 75% anti magic +5 vigor due to last patch is deadly for the spellcaster bro
Majority of other classes just have to openly engage the barb
The whole map is 90% water. Soc only has 5 spells with Frost Lightning.
Fighter shielder, BOC warlock, smite cleric etc
what u mean 75% anti magic? that perk only gives 75 magic resist which is around 15%, its not that bad. and u have op longsword on sorc which is perfect against barbs
Wow... long sword. He think soc can melee with barbar, rouge, ranger, fighter, warlock
Bro. When was the last time you saw a sorcerer killing a barb with a longsword in the score tab 😂 lets be serious
unless I build melee soc
Its like telling me "you know you can attack with the druid mouse transformation"? Come on
Melee sorc doesnt exist in norm lets be serious
I got killed but warlock full will, he spam dark beam at me in the water
if u dont use ur op longsword on sorc = skill issue. longsword op 100%. u can deal equal to melee classes dmg with it. and im not telling u to go full melee fight u can just block + 1 riposte + run
😂 make my day
give us a clip you playing Soc killing other classes with a long sword.
yeah thats rly funny is it? whining while playing on op class with tonn of dmg, push back abilities, control abilities lol
He gave me the clip. You can trust him. He is twerking during the riposte. He is a GOD
The D&D Jose Mourinho
stop it, im already answer that i am not propose to go full melee. u can defend and play hit & run with it. u have acces to it = u should use it, its op. and u can check sorc hp and phys amg stats and buffs in spells
its a video game lmaopfea
so its like mage then? mages have only 5 spells always if u do not know. unless u go for 2 spell circles
"stop it" im dead
its all ok here relax. just 2 guys whining that their op class is not extra super puper duper op class like it was before
ur talking to urself pretty much dawg
idk wtf u mean. should just relax
lmfaoooooo
is fighter good chat? im new to dnd
WHENS THE NEXT SEASON WIPE?
fighter is always good. shield with perk or longsword. mb slayer
Chilling with my 4 wives

devs should add selectable hr maps back
i just got one tapped by a fucking staff to the head
too many q's games dead
game is much more dead with random map
please lord lock doors while im bossing please lord im so tired of having to weave in and out to kill people like 4 times for one troll kill
There was no way in hell they scaled the content with more maps without combining them all into one map pool, what happens in a few years when they have like 15 maps? It's obvioiusly the only option to scale.
you aint got enough nut 4 that.
it was said on q&a that they will remove maps for specific seassons in future. Like in some seasson we won't have goblin caves but other new map. In next seasson goblins will return and other map will be removed for that seasson as example ice caves.
the water map is just dumb, bad job bad vision, let us in the dungeons you goobers'
maybe theres a way to make forgotten ruins the place where u always go and then you can go into ruins, goblin cave, water map or ice cavern from there
It wont be different from choosing map from lobby. The reason for random hr is to populate other maps.
too many player play only Ruin map
No one or less player play other map. So they have to make it random
ok maybe because other maps are bad thats might be the reasonj i only want to play forgotten castle
I cant see how this is gonna have consequences 😂
well... one player I know. his fame is over 300 and he said that he doesn't know how to deal with goblins.
same with other mods in ice map
My fame is over 2k, I dont know any watermap garbage, I think stingray sucks and is boring and I still cant banshee o.o
That map is new, so few people play it and know about those monsters, it's not strange.
or hate that map. Since the swimming took too much times :v
Mate, for me its the fact that it makes you a sitting duck in the water, it slows you which is even more boring, and weve lost bis battles just because we cant reliably get out the water.
And now its forced on us like what?! 😂
now imagine hr but its all ice caves
At least that's a dungeon, and not a sea-adventure.
just 4 water in 5 HR
i am NEVER playing hr with this random map nonsense bro fuck the blue !!! i hate blue give me my ruins and golbin cave
Bard can swing fastest in that map with song buffs and gear 😂
today I got traumatized by a warlock with full magic gear, dark beaming me to death.



hi dave
far from being the only option. and its a big part of what is killing the game rn
I still wonder why I can't see other player in far distance in water map.
so is there anyreason to play normals now
how do u guys increase fps in this game
is there any reason to play now
these devs dont know what they are doing
for almost 3 years now yeah
Does anyone have a list of the new craftables and what they do?
some books, one only melee (10 add dmg), new longsword action speed and headshot dmg, new tidestone ore gear which is trash cause debuff duration
I heard there is special Lightfoot boots too now
might be missing some
Alchemist : Tattered Chocker - MH 3 (blue)
ah yeah there is some blue gear, like a neck magical healing and one luck. lightfoot movement speed bonus
Hey attak 😊💖
think the rubysilver halberd may be new also
i think it was there before
I may be wrong, first time seeing it on my end
if not new recently added tho
I've never seen the ruby Halberd , also yeah having some of the hardest ore unlock some of the most weirdly specific gear is trash
fr debuff duration set 😂
Bout as good as the frost light feather cap
there's HR adventure mode now, always bosses get killed, you can ninja out some frost fosho
wizard and soc would be more powerful in water map if their electric spells deal more damage to creature in the water 
Adventure mode is some of the most dookie game experience I've ever played
sdf vision, he decoupled PvEPvP into two different modes
I honestly love a non PVP mode but having 20 other teams of 3 and spawning in late with continuous dungeon with inta loot on other player kills ruins it completely
if only pve and pvp got separated stash
When I was learning GK wyvrn and Warlord I would have fking killed for a pve mode so I could just do the boss without getting grieved
having non pvp highroller is dumb
I think its good for learning the mechanics of HR and how to deal with nightmares but getting loot out of it is crazy
dont worry guys after hr pve, housing will save the game
No one's forcing you to play it. What's your problem?
no players in pvp hr
That sounds like a pvp problem to me.
the whole point of high roller was to risk highest gear for the chance to get the best gear
We have random HR maps BECAUSE of too many queues. So he added 8 more it dumb
one more queue, almost no risk, infinite gold stacking, china farming simulator.......
You can do it too. Seems pretty fair.
An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure
Adventure should be a solo bring whatever you want practice mode, no questing and no bringing gear out strictly a LEARNING PRACTICE MODE. Og fr
You all just mad because you don't have enough people in pvp to kill?
PvE HR is a joke anyway, the loot tables been nerfed to death. The AP rate is garbage. Seems to me like it's pretty much evened out. lol No risk, no reward.
glad we're not playing your game. pve mode is fun. adds a queue for people like me who don't care for the sweaty side of the game and just want to farm treasure. I thought thats what dark and darker was always supposed to be. A medieval extraction game, not a battle royale with mobs in it
??? Sit and farm demigod for free with no risk while getting legendary gear
Farm treasure for what? If your not going to pvp then what are doing
In PvE mode?? The AP rate is garbage dude. No ones farming AP in PvE mode, would take you 4x as long to get any AP gains.
I haven't played in two months but I notice that this game is the same old garbage with the same old balance issues and problems.
Bro, only farm bots plays that map and there's lot more than reward in that mode for farm bots
HAVING FUN. you know, the whole point of video games
So play a single player cooperative game that you enjoy more, why play a purely pvp game if you don't want pvp?
Than play a different game.. why would you play a hardcore pvepvp game where you literally have to fight to extract with loot if you don't wanna pvp
They are having fun with the game, that's what they are doing. Not everyone is a sweathog, Kotter. There's a lot of people with disabilities that play as well, who enjoy PvE mode. But they get the garbage version...how fun.
except its not a purely pvp game, never has been. even before pve mode I was a pacifist demigod grinder/gold farmer. Just because you let someone convince you there is only one "right" way to play dark and darker doesn't make it so
do i want it ? its bad for economy, development time split between pve pvp and arena, less players in pvp modes so empty dungeons and more queue time. random map selection for hr cause of high queues.... pve is bad cause its directly impacting everything else rn in the game
Objectively wrong like every other opinion you got, people there are not having fun, they farming shit for market.
Crazy how you assume I sweat, I go into HR in squire and kill geared people
sounds pretty sweaty. try going into pve and helping someone. its way more fun
fking shitty game bro HR is so fking boring and cancer
the PVE goes nowhere in the end, PVP will always be the real endgame of an extraction gamew
Objectively.....SOME ARE farming shit. The rest are there to have fun and not get molested by the sweathogs.
I spare Timmy's and I help as many people as I can but if your in bis I'm fighting you
Good for you. <golf clap> lol
hey man if dark and darker isnt going the pvp-only focused way you like, you're always welcome to follow your own advice and find a new game
Holy hell I think you right, the disabled really do play this game

This game is cooked, with such a short time to kill that it makes the whole thing feel like garbage. Do we want to talk about the math and time wasted trying to build a decent gear?
Now you're catching on...it's not all about you sometimes, Phyllis.
pve would be cool if sdf designed it well. and dont forget the coregameplay which is stuck since months maybe years now
R/woosh
cause actually pve is just a band aid for the game, and this why it sucks
Sucks for YOU, you mean. This is why it sucks for YOU. Other people like it.
fuck the gear and let them remove zone and bring map rotation back like hr is so fking cancer who tf wants to play water map as a fighter or a cleric?
Cant even become mobs in the reg pvp modes right now because everyone is in hr pve
Other people like eating human shit doesn't mean it's good
Arc riders which is a shooter game incredibly has a longer time to kill than dad which being a fantasy game should have a longer ttk, lol, this explains everything
bro common im saying pve impacting negatively the game, you can enjoy it this is not the problem
I would pass, map rotation was complete garbage. It sucked having to wait for your map to come around.
Who decides that? YOU? Pve in this game fkin sucks, no way to denie that, YOU think pve is good that's YOUR opinion.
At least the lobby is full? do you want an empty lobby with only 2 timmies walking around naked?
IMO...this toxic pvp community is why the player base is low and you have empty lobbies.
I've run into maybe 4 new playing in pve, but all I EVER see is people in 350 luck sets turbo clearing rooms and greifing loot farming treasure
I just can't imagine why they can't do anything right, everyone was asking for slected maps and they said (OH WE NEED TO MAKE THE GEAR FROM 1080HD TO 360P
people are mad that other people are having fun playing the game differently. I love the internet. The home of "your fun is wrong". Never change
If it was me...I'd spawn my very own instance of the dungeon....go in with solo or with friends. But that's just me. That would be fun, to me.
What do you want, people bowing and going "Oh, now its your turn tee hee" when they land a strike? PVP is never going to be anything but "toxic".
league of legend have one of the most toxic players in earth and still is one of the most played game. saying players are why dnd is dying slowly is ridiculous
Well there you go...lol. Glad to see we agree on something.
whoever finally managed to convince the lead dev to adopt PVE formally should be given a raise. its a huge step in the right direction.
that's how hardcore pvp works tho, gear is temp
They said zone was to make players intract with eachother but why zone in pve mode? do you understand how stupid that is?
Only reason for this game to have low player base count is same bad decisions being made, this game has no base pve ground, killing mobs nothing other than labour and that not being polished is the reason.
Yet...that's what's happening. <boggle>
So you're uninstalling or just leaving the chat for a game that happens to be focused around PVP as the endgame and driver of game tension? Cool, see you later then.
@gaunt oracle check dm
Truth in that too. Horrible decisions by the devs and producers haven't helped this games population at all.
No, there's a big group of people who play on the Test, unmolested. It's nice and chill. Free of sweathogs.
weird claim to make that the game focuses around pvp when they just added PVE HR. How much contradicting evidence do we get to ignore and still maintain that opinion?
Then don't play PVP game?
Thats the vision. you just don't get it
It's not about the pvp, or you would have moved on to another game, right??? Ok then. lol
yeah people bought the game because it was a pvpve yet they are making the pvp useless basiccally and changing a base aspect of the game they promisedf
I see lenscrafters has alot of work to do
That you're even complaining about PVP being "sweaty" is just weird. Do you even understand what PVP means? Sorry, but this game was built from the ground up to support and be about PVP.
And adding PVE HR is still a dead end. The AI will never be as smart or as threatening as you imagine it could be. The dice roll on whether you make it out in HR or not in PVE is stacked in your odds so damn high that you can't boast about it.
I think this game has the best mid evil pvp ever designed besides mordhau its why I have not moved on
yeah surely not because schizophrenic sdf make the shitiest updates ever, flip floping and wasting development time in completely useless features to just remove them few time after and randomly balancing the classes every hotfix making broken meta for weeks
I've already said the PvE mode for HR is garbage....what is your point???
And the fact that PVE HR has a gear limit says it all, its not the intended endgame and not what the developers envision players to actually be tackling. You should stop being a carebear and actually fight players, because its a laugh.
i mean if its already dead cant hurt right. who gaf anyway i’d rather a dead lobby every once in a while with the ability to choose the damn map
Make a game so we can complain about it
Just because it's worse does not mean people are not going to abuse it, if you give a average human the easy option they will take, which is EXACTLY why teaming became a banable offense
That's cool. I can appreciate that. That's also why I enjoy the game....only I'm not into the pvp part. I'm too old and slow to be competitive anymore. My pvp sweathog days were 30 years ago. The hearing and fingers don't work like they used to. But I still love the game, just like you. So telling people to go find another game is...kinda pointless ain't it?
so we cant say anything and complain about something unless we are making the same thing. nice
Game will never be balanced in solos its imposible for them, at least make the game fun again by fixing HR and more content, thats what the player base ever wanted.
PVE solves balance. this change in thinking is big and positive. now all they need is to make the enemies more engaging and increase variety. again step in right direction.
People abuse all the modes and maps and spells and everything. PvE didn't start that trend. lol
bahahaha so they cant balance lets make the game full pve. big brain bro
PVE players are no skill carebears and PVP players are validation-seeking, insecure little dweebs... doesn't mean we can't both enjoy the game. If you think someone else's fun is taking away from yours, you need to reassess
Which is why they should actually fully separate the pve game and the pvp like how Tarkov does it... My whole point is you should not be able to abuse a risk free game mode to gain advantage in a Hardcore extraction PVP game
you cant balance the un-balanceable "bro".
Balance around trios, incentivize HR, and add engaging and dynamic content to the physical dungeons like in game events and specific PoI’s that truly matter and we’re back. Leave solo and duo and PvE if we really have to but revive the trios experience in HR
The "fun" carebears experience is nothing compared to the thrill of making it out like a bandit while knowing other players are out there to perhaps get you. World PVP in MMOs rocks, same as the chance of incidental PVP in Dark and Darker. Its not like you're magnetically demanded to attack each other in this game anyways.
u must be sdf's son
I offer Gray Zone Warfare as an example of a nice game that has both PvE and PvP.
Also...it's a GAME, there is nothing hardcore about it. lol If you believe otherwise...get some sun.
Leave as in leave it in the game* not leave it meaning get rid of it
Sounds like a skill issue
they forgot to change the ore amounts in hr adv it may be; nah nvm debunked it you get 4 cobalt ores instead of 6 in normal hr
Whats hard to grasp about this concept, dude? The way YOU feel about PVE (boring, whats the point, etc) is how I feel about PVP. Taking someone else's goodies does NOTHING for me, emotionally. The opposite in fact... unless they were toxic in voip, I feel bad that I might have just taken days of someone's free time via their kit. In PVE however, I can HELP people without being betrayed. I can wander the dungeon as a chicken with my cockatrice egg, looking for someone who looks like they might need one. There is SO MUCH MORE to this game than "hah. i owned that guy"
Idk about you but I loved being able to learn HR mobs in PvE lol
You don't have to engage in the PVP side of High Roller, you can just let people walk by, or hide. And hahaha, feeling bad because you won in PVP? That's incredible. Not like you're winning in PVP with that attitude anyways.
hello, brick wall. How are you today?
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An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.
hr fix is already a big step indeed. and content like faustian, water map etc wont save the game. they need to focus on coregameplay, endgame everything improving the game loop
You could make this argument for arc raiders too though. At what point does the developer listen to you over the PvP guys?
describes pve perfectly, doesn't it? mentions nothing of killing players
When all the BR lovers are gone and there is still around 12k players enjoying the game for the game I will smile.
I guess you can't read?
PvP = player versus player fyi
Yes, I can read. And if you think a GAME is hardcore...get some sun. Please. Because if this game is the most hardcore thing you've experienced...you better buckle up. lol
"hardcore" means if you die you loose all your shit. Not "hardcore" as in skill Dingus...
show me where it refers to killing players. because if you mean PvPvE that just means players compete with each other and the environment. doesn't mean killing. "versus" doesnt mean "murder"
Oh, now I want to know. What IS more hardcore? IWannaBeTheBoshy? Cuphead? HC classic wow?
Ok, I'l buy that for a dollar. How is that different from the PvE side?? Don't you lose your gear in HR anyway???
anyway, I'll let the super good PVPers get back to their chat pvp. ima go carebear stare another gold coin chest
HR has a "no friendly interactions" rule...
u pve only enjoyers guys coming on an hardcore pvpve game and wanting it to completely being the opposite is crazy. like if im going on animal crossing and harrasing devs because the game is too cosy so they need to make it fps gore
Try the Test server...it's better than the Live. Unless you care a whole bunch about the AP and making demigod or something.
us PVE enjoyers are enjoying the game... seems the PVPers aren't. you should try having fun, hope this helps
Does test server even have water map?
Thank god no. lol Much easier when doing HR not to have to mess with that fucking map. I'm not a fan.
Btw, I wanted to ask since your a PvE enjoyer. What are your thoughts on the new HR PvE? Do you like the random dungeon selection? No goblin recovery?
Like I've said I LIKE THE PVE GAME MODE BUT YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FARM IT TO GET AHEAD IF PVP PLAYERS... Just separate it fully so if you want to play the game without PVP you can but not abuse it to run full gemed bis in hr
I like everything about it except they need to remove the spectate timer. I want to watch the greedy bards and rogues die when they cant find an extract. Otheriwse, A+ no notes
If it wasn't available for everyone do the exact same thing, I'd be with you. But hey, it's available for you to do it too, so...my panties aren't in a twist about it.
i can enjoy the game and still criticize the problematics things that needs to be fix. also i can enjoy a pvp only game, its like playing pve is the only way to have fun ??
I see. Thanks for the answer.
Thoughts on not being able to get Uniques or Artifact rarity items?
And those are exactly what I'm talking about PEOPLE WHO ABUSE THE PVE MODE
Who said we only PvE? thats an insane take because people enjoy PvE lol, I'm literally killing Spectral Knight on repeat in PvE just for fun. I spent all day PvPing with my Duo lol. Get some air my dude.
People abuse the pvp too. So?
If you don't express your opinions of what you dislike in the game then nothing changes. And we would have the shitty changes from 2 months ago still
if u read a bit above u can find ur answer. and why ur there answering me if ur not concerned ?
PVE does not only solve balance it also solves cheating.
PvE solves nothing. But it does cater to more players.
I don't even understand 
replied in DM, automod didn't like what I had to say
If you hate sweaty pvpers how do you not hate the sweaty pvers I just can't comprehend
Example: Little druid rat hiding in a place beneath the map no one else can access. That's called abusing the system. Happens all the time.
Any stag found yet ?
huge step in the right direction. playing the game without worrying about cheaters and the little sweaty meta no lifers is the way to go.
That's called a game breaking bug and they are banned for doing that
People queue snipe the same lobby to beat the team size/class restrictions. Are you saying teaming isn't a problem that occurs in the pvp modes?
Can I get people banned for teaming if I dont have their names? Like is there a way for devs to check player/lobby logs?
Yep, still abuse though ain't it? People in pvp abuse just as much if not more than pve, don't try and say otherwise. lol
Again bananable offense, and guess what they patched it. It is now impossible to go into HR with double classes now even if you try to queue snipe
I dont think you know what queue sniping is, and thats probably for the best
PLEASE MAKE IT SO THAT WE CAN CHOOSE THE MAP WE WANT TO GO INTO FOR HIGH ROLLER - RANDOM DICE BULLSHIT IS PRETTY SHITTY
The offense, was that those people were abusing the system. Using it in a way that THEY knew wasn't how it was intended. That's abuse. Do people abuse the pve? Yep. Do people abuse the pvp? Yep.
These mf
I hate PVP FOR THESE REASIONS
(Exact same things that happen ins pve)
- Tell them those reasons*
Well .. uh well you can do that in PVP so it's bad!
You win I can't argue with an AI reply bot team
The older you get, the easier it is to just admit when you're wrong.
Yes cause all the old people who made inflation and housing market value skyrocket are completely right!
POOR
Whoaa....you see that derailment!!! Fucking box cars jackknifed for miles....it was horrible.
almost no argument since the beginning and youre still there saying others are wrong. 😭
PVE = no balance problem = no cheating = no waiting for queue. the dev team life would be alot easier if they just focus on this mode now and enhance the gameplay environment.
they'll be testing for PFAs for years
If your too old to play PVP then don't play a PVP game go play Skyrim there is no players!
yup every games should be pve with this undeniable logic
How about this...don't tell me what fucking games I can play or can't play, Phyllis.
Then don't cry about pvp players In a PVP game jesus
If you can't make an argument, don't blame me, kid. lol
Bros are beefing in a public discord its hilarious
You sure like telling other people what to do, huh?
Not like you have been doing the same thing for 30 minutes you donky
@sharp shore dont waste ur time, the older u get the more delulu and stubborn u are
When did I tell you what to do, or how to play a game?
Bros looks do not match his confidence
🤦♂️ 
Go ahead, cut/paste, I'll wait.
Bros bout to drop the hardest m'lady I've ever seen
For someone trying to use age as a way to impart your opinions you sure are immature lol
Fucking literally 
Everyone has to get older, but you can be immature forever!!
You're just stonewalling and refusing to engage in a meaningful conversation because you think your opinion is the only right one to have lol
Bros a barbarian playing and took the -5 knowledge nerf a little to seriously
Bros the type of dude to get slapped with a dictionary and tell you that it lies.
Bro def sits in a empty room fs
The fact that I have agreed with a lot of his points and offered different solutions and just reply with "well I'm older and your young so I'm right" is fucking mental
Yeah this was a really hard read as a bystander
If people want to farm pve for gold, but didn't let you do it...that absolutely would be a problem. And don't focus on the wrong part of the story. lol
But, to pretend that abuse only happens in pve...that's just not true.
Jesus fucking Christ bro has lost the plot
Not one person has said that
You brought up bananable offenses as your arguments when all I said is it should be separate from the pvp side of the game but you have your own world you live in and read what you want to hear.
THIS...makes it SEEM, that you are under the impression that pve mode is bad because people abuse it. Which is half right...people will abuse it, but that doesn't make it 'bad'. Just like people abuse pvp mode, it's not right, but people do it. But just because a few butt nuggets abuse it, doesn't make pvp mode bad. Savy?
does -5 knowledge do literally anything btw?
If you read the message I replied to then it would make sense.. they don't get banned in over mode. You also realize the the Gold farmers now just pve Hr cheat move speed and dmg play that to farm gold to sell to card swipers
Harder to use invis pots is the only real change
Let us all maintain respect in here please ❤️
did anyone use invis pots? You cant even move during them
People who camped reds yes
wait do they last infinitely?
No put purple pots last a long as time
icic
Clerics mostly used em cause they have a decently high buff duration making the pots last longer
Ya, I don't buy gold, so I don't really care about that too much. I mean, they've been doing that shit since day 1 honestly. It's not a new development since PvE mode. I just have no fks to give about that.
Bro I'm not going to argue with you anymore your set In your ways big dawg enjoy yourself 
I am, thanks. Have a nice week.
doesnt that mean less gold farmers in your precious PVP mode? isnt this a good thing for you?
Just means more gold influx on the websites and more card swipers kits
and how does that affect you?
Sounds like a good boon for pvp then huh?
if you think gold farmers are in PVE more than PVP you're out of your fucking mind
Lol
yea but lets humour him
gold farmers tactics are known. queue snipe the same lobby in discord with your other gold farmer buddies. clear the lobby of players. get to farming.
you get rich off artifacts, uniques, and chests... guess what doesn't drop in PVE
its far more lucrative to farm the sweaties everyone knows that. but i wanted to see his mental gymnastics. oh well.
I love watching other players when I die, it's been a valuable tool to learn new things. But I would get rid of it. Talk about stuff that get's abused....yikes.
A job of a gold farmer is to not get caught. Getting caught means they get banned and have to spend 40$ on an account. If your dying to a cheater Sorry to tell you this it's not a gold farmer
I'd like to remind everyone, while we can discuss RMT, anyone incentivising it, that is not tolerated here 🙂
You can go watch the video, the wiggle that killed Tarkov. It explains easily that cheaters that are selling g
In game currency/items avoid players at all cost it's a network of people that do not want to get caught
Please for the love of god let us CHOOSE the map we want to play. 100g for hr 200g to choose.
He is not a developer, make your voice heard on the steam page or send an email to their business account and make it formal and not angry
i can pay 1 gold coin bag for entry my map
I'm sure im in the minority, but I just love the game for the dungeon crawling experience it offers. Yeah PvP can be fun and lucrative but it also comes with risk as it should. It was nice to learn and perfect mobs in HR PVE without worrying about someone running you down too. I think they need to take the Ranks away from PvE HR. As Far as PvE HR goes, even running 200+ luck I wasnt getting crazy legendaries dropping. Yeah I'd get one once in awhile but most were like 200g lol. You make like 1200-1800g a run on HR PvE compared to PvE 600-1200g.
I wish i had such creative control(im just a discord mod), i have to read everything you guys say, so i understand the frustration, but cannot do anything about it, I'm sorry 🫂💖
no the gold farmers (the high yielding kind) are very sweaty organized players killing other very sweaty players and tgen sell their equip and cash.
❤️ thanks. Please pass the message along if you're so inclined. Not being able to play the watermap in HR for 10 hours really blows.
Ya, they made it pretty rough. It's like zero risk, zero reward. The pve modes are pretty much garbage, sadly.
Iirc it's purely because they dont want empty lobbies
Ironic
I mean your just wrong, the people doing that are players killing geared people are in a discord for personal money making and are not the companys who are cheating to sell gold
We do raise concerns to the devs on occasion, so i will push it forward, however i,we don't really expect to get a response either 😄
I'll stick mostly to the Test, zero gold farmers. lol
@rancid bane Your reponses get a read notificationa and thats it huh? xD
sure.
Almost every single game of any consequence, has this issue. I'm not sure anything can be done.
It like as if you direct messaged them, it's the same effect, as we don't really have more influnce on game stuff as anyone else
Go ask anyone with 4k hours
12,400 hours here. You're wrong
There are discord servers out there that have players dedicated to pinging the discord to alert everyone that a player with a 50k-300k gear sets are active
Not even possible 😂
dm sent, edit your response
12500 hours =
520.833 days literally impossible
I mean, this game has been out for more then 3 years so combined it is techinally possible
yes it is
he got real quiet
I have to agree that's is impossible
Slow mode Dingus
Endless he left it open all the time
possible but just a proof ur living, eating and sleeping in dungeon
I have 3400 on the Live and 500 on Test...but I just fart around. I'm not confident enough to say what's impossible and what's not. lol
look guys, right or wrong, let us just take 5 please, it's easy to get heated on the internet 🫂💖
🤓
I sent him the screenshot of my hours. 12,472. Not like hours matter, but since he wants to use "ask anyone with 4k hours" as a response to something, I figured lets get nutty

It counts lobby hours too
sure does
On a different subject What stat increases water breathing
vig
And you have the opinions you do is actually mind blowing
the opinion that the game should be played in whatever way is fun to you? yeah, wild take
That wasn't my argument
Both of you, please drop it now, you've been going for ages, there clearly will be no resolve @gaunt oracle
okies
Yeah that's fine but isn't this where we are supposed to have discussions? I mean we are not sitting here calling each other names
this guy is amusing. a player with thousands of hours (which he proclaimed as an authority) tells him its like this and he switched immediately. is any opinion other than yours ever going to be correct my boy?
#the-tavern message This will be over 😄
That's not helping. This is the tavern. Let em' go.
And we are the tavern masters 🙂
Baseball is cool
Is there an eye roll emoji??
well other then the discord basic one but you can use this sticker xD
Where you a hall monitor or crossing guard??
I'm an IT speicalist by trade 🙂
I haven't seen anyone breaking the rules. Why punish them?
Dave's tired of seeing conflict, I get it. we can chill
Real question tho what is your highest fame cause Jesus 12400 hours is nutz
omg lol he is trying to find a way to descredit him
@gaunt oracle he lives!
That's cool, what do you do? If you don't mind sharing
Ive been almost exclusively druid since it released. JUST hit 1200 fame last game
Dude fucking drop it I'm not trying to discredit him I'm genuinely curious
suh dood! 🙂
Golly damn 1200 is nuts that impressive
We fix laptops for HP, lenovo, dell etc, like physically, diagnostics, part replacement, stuff like that, i cannot say anymore as we work with government xD
tyty
I worked for the government for 8 years when I was a kid. Nice benefits.
Fair. Lenovo seems pretty sturdy to me, not Dell though. I cooked a Dell's graphics card playing too much Skyrim when I was a student. The cooling system was not doing it's job 😅
If you could change three things about the game what would you change
Dells are built as if someone shat on a blueprint, rubbed it together and said "good shit" and walked away. lenovo is pretty good to be honest
When I worked in medical IT we refused to sell dell because of the issue we had good to see nothing's changed lol
remove the spectate timer from HR PVE, fix the tidewalkers (they're loot pinatas in the water...movement breaks. they're weird), and bring back 3x3 goblin caves as a tutorial mode... half the mob HP/damage, gray loot only, etc
I have a Lenovo now but I only use it for dev/music production. Been great so far
Honestly love these, not a lot of seasoned darkers care about the new players
The issue is, dell hasn't improved i've worked with latest models, and they still have the same issue as super old models, masterlock of laptop's to be honest
HR PVE spectate timer serves no purpose. In PVP, it prevents players from communicating information to other players still ingame, so they dont get hunted for their goodies. If we could watch the entire duration of an HR PVE match, new players could learn more strategies for handling nightmare mobs...
and I can watch greedy bards die
What do you think is the worst designed class. (You might be the most qualified person to answer this question)
You get it. This game needs better onboarding experience. If it's only us veterans fighting each other the game will canibalise itself.
I do love spectate mode, it's been a great tool for me to learn new stuff. But it's also the first thing I would get rid of.
Spectate is my favorite thing, when I get griefed bossing I love watching that same guy die ten seconds later it's so satisfying
nice cheater caught him on video
druid sort of puts the game on ez mode. they just have broad access to too many tools.
movement that breaks the ingame action economy, excellent healing, shapeshifts that trivialize PVE, automatic sustain through natural healing, the simplest inventory management of any class in the game bar none.... the class is just so damn good.
YO DEVS What is going on with the HR PvE mode queues? I can't get into a game no matter what I do! I tried switching regions and still nothing
I LOVE RANDOM MAP SO MUCH
I LOVE PLAYING SORCERER ON WATER MAP
I LOVE HALF OF MY SPELL IS DISABLE
I LOVE DARK AND DARKER
I LOVE IRONMACE
you got the box checked? I dont see alot of squads in HR PVE
12k hours means nothing, u could have the shitiest takes even at 50k hours
You're the goat
Fair enough altho I think the nerfs have gone pretty far in terms of equalizing it, the skill expression is quite awesome to watch even with a lot of game breaking balance issues
i just took 60% of my hp bar as dmg from one fire wall??? i had 40 magic res on fighter with spell reflect on??? am i missing sth he had like a decent bit of true magic gear but not THAT level
I'm okay with druid doing all of those things, but not having access to all of it at once. Druid could use a rework
Ah True magical damage is quite a shock
does it apply to every single tick or what
Well the initial burst does a good amount of damage plus the burn and however long you are standing in it
i jumped him, hit him in the head with my longsword, missed one swing and he just nuked my hp bar like its nothing
And your MDR percentage is what is important to look at most plate gear has negative magic resistance
i was at 40%, barbute helmet, dark curaiss and spell reflect active
Its funny, I used to run shapeshift mastery on druid... wouldn't queue without it. Then they made it so I can't run my nature spells. I need those, especially orb of nature and restore. So I played without it, and its actually BETTER. The delay in shapeshift makes some of my combos easier to manage. less finger gymnastics
40% of 25dmg is not a lot plus around like 9 true on top of that
Can you pc jump still?
oh yeah. and I can prep my pounce so I'm landing in bear with my heavy attack animation alrdy going
