game-discussion

[meager current]

The problem is wizard has been nerfed multiple time fireball used to one shot to the head as its a fucking fireball to ur face. Now wizard scaling is trash at any level, especially right now at artifact level I have a 200k wiz set full unique 70% magic damage bonus. An equally geared ranger 2 shots me, while it takes me 3 direct fireballs to kill a ranger. Dont get me started on barb or fighter with MDR. - 5k hour wiz.

[lone spear]

Wiz is still extremely strong in 3s it just not as strong as ranger

[grand patio]

But hear me out, if you nerf the bows, the class becomes dead, the bows aren’t what’s needs to be nerfed. The classes are not the weapons. It just seems we’re going back to a fast paced less methodical form of dark and darker.

[pseudo whale]

Tries to learn new boss "yeah in a few days there will be a new boss" I cannot keep up

[harsh quartz]

are there any special halberds besides cinder?

[quick kite]

arena is dead in this shit game.

tried every server for 10 mins plus

[feral karma]

Rubysilver Halberd, it’s a crafted halberd.

[feral karma]

What server? Is it EU by chance?

[lone spear]

What would you nerf to balance out the fact that the strongest class just got stronger? I can’t think of anything else. It also nerfs fighter which I also think is also in a strong place

[quick kite]

im in OCE/SEA but ive tried all of them

[lone spear]

That’s wild what rank?

[quick kite]

1400

[feral karma]

Ah gotcha, how’s your ping on East?

[quick kite]

US east? 200 plus

[lone spear]

That’s bizarre actually something fucked up I feel like

[harsh quartz]

ty

[feral karma]

Understood, I would try finding others to queue with instead of filling, that might help. I know very little about the pop for the arena servers you’re playing on.

[meager current]

Most games that have been good just made everything strong, for example MW2 with things like the ranger or the models.

[feral karma]

If a queue goes over three minutes I restart it, 10 minutes is wild. It probably broke

[quick kite]

its what happens when you split your player base over 12 diferent game modes

[grand patio]

To call ranger the strongest class in the game you have a low understanding of the class itself, with lots that cost 20k ranger is yes indeed a strong class, but to nerf it, make ranger have less damaging perks/abilities, the bow is the class you can’t take that away but you can change how perks affect your damage. S/A, true shot gives 8% physical damage but on top if it being a straight arrow. Then you have another ability that grants 50% action speed for 8 seconds, you have another ability that spreads your arrows into a horizontal line that can hit 5 arrows instantly. These are things that can get nerfed

[spiral totem]

what do you guys think will be the season pack rewards? new background like this season or something else?

[quick kite]

and back flip completely every update

[lone spear]

In my opinion what makes ranger so damn hard to balance is it’s a range class where this is melee classes. Making everything strong seem like no matter what ranger is always going have every other classes number. Accept a rouge that can catch you

[feral karma]

Well they can’t really force players into same server without hurting players ping.

Theytalked about merging other servers and how it would impact players in the last qna

[meager current]

a few seasons back like I was saying was fine. im okay with getting 2-3 shot with bow if I can one shot headshot with fireball.

[lone spear]

Are you saying you don’t think ranger is the strongest class in the game? In 3s is what I’m talking about for the record

[bleak falcon]

can we get perks on the aqua glow lanterns too next wipe?

[lone spear]

See I think the wiz nerfs were good for the game but the issue is that haven’t really nerfed ranger in the same way

[sturdy coral]

should give a swim speed boost

[lone spear]

Full plate max pdr 150 hp full purple boss vs full purple bis the ranger can take a 3rd of my health in 1 shot

[feral karma]

If a ranger and a fighter are trading bow shots, the fighter normally wins that.

[plain fox]

Anyone in need of some help? Let me know!

[lone spear]

Yeah against a good ranger that’s not happening lol

[uneven inlet]

someonem let me get a kit bro

[feral karma]

That’s a bad argument. A “good” player against an average or less player will usually skill diff the player.

[lone spear]

When I’m judging how strong a class is I’m talking about the class being played at a very high level

[feral karma]

Then the fighter still wins that.

[lone spear]

lol

Did you watch the arena tourneys by chance?

[feral karma]

Trades better with longbow, has a shield swap, second wind to soak, and throwables.

[feral karma]

You mean the trio tournament, that doesn’t apply to this.

[subtle goblet]

so you're saying every class is broken at the highest lvl or just ranger?

[lone spear]

I didn’t realize we were talking about solos.. I stated earlier not to you though I’m talking 3s ranger is ass in solo

[feral karma]

Ah my fault, I responded to your post about how as a fighter a ranger was hurting you. I assumed a 1v1.

[lone spear]

I’m saying at the highest level some classes are clearly better than others.

[lone spear]

I was using that as an argument for how I think their potential dps from range is too high imo

[feral karma]

Ah, I understand.

[subtle goblet]

in the context of a tourney of the highest of the highest lvl players or just in general?

[lone spear]

So I guess what you said if we’re talking solo you right fighter and ranger are much more closely matched just shooting bows at each other

[feral karma]

I’d personally like to see multishot reworked, and range damage reduced, but armor pen increased.

[lone spear]

Fighter can also use shield to get on top of him if he has no peel

[lone spear]

I’m not sure the answer I’m not that smart but something imo

[feral karma]

Yeah I get that, I can’t think of a perfect solution to it.

[lone spear]

Bro stop fishing for some gotcha and give your opinion already lol

[hearty nova]

anyone getting games on arena if so what server?

[subtle goblet]

i'm asking questions related to your opinion, relax

[lone spear]

My bad idk why I was reading your questions as disingenuous.

[peak lynx]

Wakey Wakey! Day 19! @zinc sparrow @fleet imp @frail merlin @rancid lichen <@&988703997378584596> <@&1245606481353642045>

[last spoke]

Been waiting for day 19

[lone spear]

I’m talking at high level and up not the highest level like the tourney was

[gilded sedge]

[signal bough]

Day 19 of...?

[keen light]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-gif-23454285

[final finch]

5 more minnutes. Please dont tag em 🙁

[feral karma]

What’s the day counter for?

[vagrant fulcrum]

Day 19 of asking devs to bring back random map queue for all maps, for anyone else wondering.
Each day, more and more users are tagged.

[zealous light]

[feral karma]

Oh, I don’t ever want that back.

[signal bough]

hell nah

[subtle goblet]

no one wants that

[feral karma]

I like to play what I want, and not be randomly thrown into whatever.

[signal bough]

legit no one wants that

[ornate spear]

i thought they wanted map rotation back, like solos duos and trios changing every few minutes

[subtle goblet]

random hr dungeons was almost as bad as boss summoning items

[feral karma]

Hope not, it’s awful.

[ornate spear]

oh they do want random maps

[timid shuttle]

Thanks brother 🥹 I usually get called fucked up things in game chat when I do it haha. Finally something positive.

[tepid hull]

Nah im good lol

[feral karma]

Being good at that is a skill, even if they dislike it.

[vagrant fulcrum]

The only reason I liked random dungeon was for questing, so that I wouldn't focus on one specific quest, it would have some variety.
Also proves "mastery over any map" for HR.

Otherwise, being unable to prepare adequately deppending on which dungeon you get was a bit sad.

[ornate spear]

i have like 500 hours on rogue and i can't hit throwing knives through doors bruh that's impressive

[lone spear]

Dirty stinky fat backed greasy rouge

[ornate spear]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-lalo-salamanca-better-call-saul-season6-lalo-be-nice-gif-25432528

[feral karma]

Imagine trying to do a quest, five games in keep getting the wrong map, finally get the map you need, and you don’t get the item.

[timid shuttle]

Glad they removed that lol

[feral karma]

[lone spear]

[timid shuttle]

Yes something close to that 😅😅😅😅 dont for get to add rat in there too

[zealous light]

its good in the sense you need mastery of the maps for HR but for the quest point i think it made it harder to accomplish quests unless u go to norms/pve to choose the map

[lone spear]

Imagine spending all your
Money early wipe it’s your first really good kit. Your pumped your ready to take some bis and you log into fucking ice map..

[vagrant fulcrum]

I did the quests in S2R back when it wasn't as sweaty for escapes and the maps were random. A bit more challenging than PvE, but still chill unlike Norms.
Then once I had fewer quests, I would focus on the maps I needed, but otherwise it was nice to work on random quests

[feral karma]

I would be happy. Ice and water are my favorite maps. :p

[timid shuttle]

Patience and timing. People are starting to catch on though as they duck after closing doors. But im still able to pull it off on people who dont expect it. Very effective on the less experienced.

[feral karma]

I always duck, it’s a habit now.

Dodge what could be coming, not what I hear.

[lone spear]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[feral karma]

🥹

[timid shuttle]

Bro that happened to me allllllll the time 😂 I lost some really good rogue and barb kits because of that

[timid shuttle]

🔑

[lone spear]

Bro me too I play fighter so I would just get rushed and cooked but one of the 5 warlocks on the map

[feral karma]

[timid shuttle]

If people would just take the time to learn the map, its very rewarding. Especially if you can BK ( Boss kill) on that map

[feral karma]

I agree, even if you can’t still amazing maps.

What?

[lone spear]

You can definitely get rich I just don’t like the map. The lowered mob density made the map a lot better though

[short sleet]

👀

[wet kindle]

what

[feral karma]

I honestly wish there were more mobs haha

[eternal bough]

He just deployed a confusion grenade on all wardens

[feral karma]

I think it worked on Knights as well.

[ornate spear]

it was not a warden that pinged.

[feral karma]

😂

[ornate spear]

@somber roost

[lone spear]

Lmfao I just don’t think we jive

[feral karma]

😆

[lone spear]

This dude just hit the wardens with pocket sand, and I’m here for it

[eternal bough]

Sorry I am still not really sure what you mean, you pinged the role Wardens

[feral karma]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many red names in the same place. Haha

[timid shuttle]

Same. I feel mob density should be scaled with the party size

[ornate spear]

i was telling @somber roost, who pinged the wardens, that it was not a warden tagging everyone

[feral karma]

Mhm, I enjoy ice maps density, I doubt it will ever happen but I’d like more or a game mode with more.

[grand patio]

Well everyone I can’t wait to blast your skulls in with explosive shot next wipe, I’ll see yall in the dungeons. Just don’t Stream snipe me 😉

[feral karma]

I hope you enjoy the new stuff 🙂

[grand patio]

I will and won’t

I’m a ranger main and now my class is busted so yeah I’ll have fun but at what cost

[main lintel]

gentlemen - please answer this. as I have played for a long time but have had varying answers :: When you have 50% armor pen. is it reducing their pdr by HALF or is it removing 50% from the total.... eg 65% minus 50% = 15% pdr remaining

[timid shuttle]

Quickshot explosive arrows will be crazy

[wet kindle]

second way

no wait first way

it reduced their current PDR

[somber roost]

I missunderstood and took off the question and addressed the issue in another channel. Sorry for tag. Thank you for the fast intervention, was just not needed.

[wet kindle]

less punishing to light armor wearers and doesnt retun a negative PDR

[feral karma]

Dark and darker wiki has answers for questions like that.

Probably would be very informative

[main lintel]

ok so penetrating shot - 50% headshot penetration + 25% armor pen. does this again just remove 50% of the "headshot damage reduction" stat on players helments. for example 11% headshot damage reduction becomes 5.5%?

[royal sun]

dark and darker wiki is really hard to understand, not every1 has ridges in their brain 😭

[feral karma]

Oh, I just meant it shows examples and deep explanations for things like that.

[royal sun]

the smoothness of my brain prevents those from making sense 🐱

[feral karma]

🥹

[main lintel]

this is game discusion = the perfect place to ask legitimate questions. Weird to discourage genuine discussion in the channel designed for that

[wet kindle]

should work that way yes. headshot penetration should only reduce the headshot damage reduction stat, which means if they dont have any on their gear its not doing anything

[feral karma]

I wasn’t trying to discourage it, just trying to help you find answers to your question, that are in depth. A lot of people could be wrong, or misinform you for the sake of it, I see it often.

Sorry.

[main lintel]

the wiki was wrong for years haha

[royal sun]

whats a troubadour?

[main lintel]

youtube creator

[tame oxide]

Possible misinformation mixed into people copypasting wiki to you vs going to the source of the information.

[swift grove]

second way, no first way, no the second way definitely

[tame oxide]

kek

[main lintel]

wiki has been wrong for years. the wiki isnt the source. its a wiki 🙂

[tame oxide]

If you say so bro

[main lintel]

anyway. i got some direction and that is great. appreciate it @wet kindle

[main lintel]

that isnt an opinion. they were objectively wrong for years on drop rates etc...

[swift grove]

I'm learning to let people be wrong when they want to. Its challenging, but I can overcome it

[tame oxide]

Because IM was wrong about them and the system was broken. The real droprates have always been listed on their discord. No one just bothered updating the site.

[main lintel]

so therefore. wiki is not reliable... it is just people putting info on a website. there is no regulation on it. thinking a wiki is a bonafide source is worrying.

[vagrant fulcrum]

I think (based on what I think, no facts there) that if you have 50% armor pen, it ignores 50% of their PDR. It doesn't remove 50% of their total PDR.
So with 50% armor pen, against a 65% PDR, you would hit as if they had 32.5% PDR. Not as if they had 15% PDR.

[timid shuttle]

This is also how I thought it worked.

[main lintel]

that is what lines up with the testing, but have heard a LOT of talk about it either having changed (which i didnt notice in the testing)

or never being the case. thanks @vagrant fulcrum

[swift grove]

I think (based on complete shunning of the facts) that if you have 50% armor pen it penetrates 100% of the targets armor on 50% of the available surface of their hitbox. Which surfaces receive armor penetration and which don't are decided by random chance at the time of firing your weapon.

[vagrant fulcrum]

I typically do not bother with numbers, I just play to have fun, so take my opinion with a grain of salt regarding the stats.
It's purely based on my understanding of the wording

[tame oxide]

Shoutout to the wiki dudes calling out that luck doesn't work over 12 months ago 🔥

[swift grove]

this is how it works. also why bards are upsetti about the shriek changes

[tulip arch]

Gg guys rogue and ranger 99% usage rate next season

[pine wyvern]

i love that they give rangers more shit when they are already op WWW

[sturdy coral]

the circle of life... ranged players said the same thing last wipe with fighter/barb 🤣

[vagrant fulcrum]

I am upsetti about the shriek changes 🪈

[swift grove]

I would be to if I ever had to play bard again tbh

level 300, never touching the class again

[tulip arch]

Deadass how did a single dev say these are good ideas????

[vagrant fulcrum]

More diversity in perks means different builds, means different ways to counter.

It seems like they're buffing all classes to a certain point, rather than nerf the strongest classes.

[feral karma]

What do you think is bad about them?

[swift grove]

I like that theyre adding more flavor to rangers. I wish there were more noncombat flavor options available, like hunting and meal prep for buffs n shit

[vagrant fulcrum]

Applying surge kit on ally
Placing campfire quickly and long-lasting

Otherwise bard has the Song of Rest

[swift grove]

I like campfire mastery. first aid seems weird

wont be able to say for sure til we experience it ingame, but i can't imagine alot of use case scenarios for first aid where it would be more valuable over another perk

alt+right click item to drop for teammate = free up 1 perk spot

[vagrant fulcrum]

I agree with the reddit poster that said that it's weird to ask for the ranged character that can cover fire or deal damage while the fighter heals, to heal the fighter. It puts 2 users out of the fight (one healing themselves, the other heals the first)
*Assuming that they both can heal the same person at the same time. The video shows the Barb as having a buff or debuff

[tulip arch]

Idk maybe ranger already being the stronger class in the game and rogue just being MADDDD annoying now

[feral karma]

Gotcha.

[swift grove]

maybe if the fighter was holding pavise in a choke while being healed
or if first aid can let you apply potions or bandages to friendlies
maybe you and a teammate can apply bandages at the same time to the teammate

[sand sedge]

Ping why

[feral karma]

I think campfire mastery, and first aid should be baked in.

[vagrant fulcrum]

Good point.
Also can allow the Ranger to stack phys/Magical healing or item interaction speed and boom, you got yourself a pocket healer

[tulip arch]

Poor bard bro

Ranger gets 100th buff and bard just is the same as 100 years ago

[feral karma]

We will have our time in the sun. ☀️

[swift grove]

maybe its just a flavor thing and we're overthinking it. ranger shoots teammate in the back and says "Ope, let me fix that for ya"

in which case, cool. whatever. when can I fish/hunt/cook?

[tulip arch]

Theres no way mega focusing on ranger and rogues is a even getting more people to play the game these updates gotta be rage bait

There deadass just ragebaiting us 😭

Ping system is goated tho

[swift grove]

if ranger biscuits scale with phys heal -AND- first aid allows the application of bandages, alright. thats a fun little timmy build right there, I respect it

I'd run that in PVE fills with some randoms

[feral karma]

Class rework is going in order.

[indigo valve]

Deadass

Op classes get new perks first ig

[tulip arch]

Fr

[feral karma]

Maybe, either way forcing teammates to drink potions should be amusing

[swift grove]

I'll be roleplaying as a fkin leprechaun istg. Dwarf first aid ranger with a dozen small luck pots just forcefeeding good fortune to my random fill teammates

[tulip arch]

They should make healing teamates a base feature but you heal them at 50% the speed

[feral karma]

😂

[feral karma]

I agree

[tulip arch]

I dont really see why not

It would still be way faster to just be a healing class so it wouldnt effect that

[swift grove]

yooo what if first aid ranger could revive w/ surg kits

THAT would be worth a perk slot

[tulip arch]

DO NOT GIVE IDEAS

[subtle goblet]

and they call them "goblin jumper cables" just like wow

[swift grove]

the game does need more revive mechanics. y not ranger?

[tulip arch]

Lets just remove healing classes why dont we

[feral karma]

Barbarians should be able to beat you to life.

😂

[tulip arch]

Warlock should suck you back to life

[swift grove]

lol

[tulip arch]

Bard should sing a mystical melody and bring them back to life

[feral karma]

Or hear me out they beat you with their Lute and you wake up

😂

[glossy pagoda]

I like how the collector quest is locked behind been a millionaire this wipe. W iRONMACE

[tulip arch]

Either play ranger, rogue, or fighter with 99 projectile damage reduction

[swift grove]

i hope we get quicker access to the later tiers of crafting next season

I dont want to wait til June for obsidian crafts

[feral karma]

True! I hope questing is easier as well.

[swift grove]

most of this season's quests seemed pretty reasonable, aside from collector obviously. alot less quests requiring looted items was a huge W

it also put us nolifers into a new tax bracket with gold income. got so rich this season off wendigo parts, glasses, bellows, awls, etc

[feral karma]

Daily and Weekly quests are too difficult/expensive. Some of the standard quests had requirements that just prolonged the suffering like the 15x pile hits.

[stone panther]

yeh, most were not to terrible. Other than killing 15 of the fire dude (that only 1 exists off) requiring 30 trips to hell doing nothing but waiting for the platform for 6 minutes everytime. And a couple of the other grindy ones

[swift grove]

15 pile hits was tough, agree. huntress could use a reality check, also agree

[feral karma]

Timed Quests shouldn’t revolve around RNG loot from Bosses/Subbosses. it’s awful

[swift grove]

hopefully they do a sneaky map expansion on firedeep. its too small to begin with. would help in making the boar, lava golem, and fire elemental quests more reasonable; more spawns

also WHERE EMBER GEM?

cool dwarf door, wish it wasn't painted shut

[stone panther]

Ember gem was on the todo list for quiver guy . Kinda crazy how they could not be arsed to fix it for an entire season

[swift grove]

lol. "We moved a decimel place in the Ember Gem drop chance" just like luck

[harsh quartz]

what should i focus in a wizard arena kit?

[subtle goblet]

play rogue or ranger

[swift grove]

step 1: get illusory

[feral karma]

Push your head through the door, makes game crash sometimes. 😂

[swift grove]

I stonekick at it

[feral karma]

lol

[swift grove]

I thought it was worth a shot. Like the "Speak friend and enter" but Dwarf

I also drank beer at it

[harsh quartz]

acquired, and 2?

[swift grove]

shit I never got that far. Try to contact Glocktane, FredTheFireball, Foxmanslays... any of those guys would have top level wizard knowledge for you.
I would assume you run vigor bases with will, knowledge, agi, cast speed but idk. I don't think most wizards do mag pen

[feral karma]

Well thought out, imagine if it opened. Haha

[harsh quartz]

dumb question but what does mag pen do?

[blazing sedge]

bypasses magic damage reduction

[swift grove]

reduces enemy magic damage resistance by a percentage

[harsh quartz]

ah makes sense

[feral karma]

It’s like armor pen, but for magic. So it negates their MDR by a percent.

[slow oxide]

Fellas, let's be real.
Shadow Step into Dualstrike with Backstab

The oneshots are gonna be legendary

[chrome bone]

arena end today ?

[night patio]

Alright, let’s enjoy this new season where rogue will be nerfed every weeks.

[narrow carbon]

What’s the actual wipe date/time again? How long is left

[thorny cape]

do people bring low gear into hr, because i want to start playing it but idk if i should expect everyone i fight to be super geared or if im still gonna fight like blues and squire gear

[vagrant fulcrum]

Bit of both, for better or for worse.

[thorny cape]

so basically, learn to tell whether or not i should take a fight?

[vagrant fulcrum]

A geared and ungeared (in whites) player will look almost identical, with the exception of the cape slot.
Some artifacts also have visual effects that give you a hint, from a distance.

[uncut hound]

when wipe

[thorny cape]

my one thing about hr is that the mobs really scare me

[charred flare]

@rose agate

[peak lynx]

I’m not saying all ques need to be random. But at least one dedicated server to random map Que. for a while they had norms hr and squire random map Que along with specific map Que. I just want one game mode. Literally anything. No where have I said all lobbies should be forced into random map Que. so many people saying they don’t like random map Que bc they like choosing what dungeon they go into. It’s completely irrelevant comment because they are not dependent on each other. That’s like saying “I don’t think anyone should have short hair bc I like my long hair” I’m not asking u to cut your hair. I’m saying why the heck did the devs say no one is allowed to cut their hair. I know an analogy might not go well with this community but think about it for a second.

[sturdy rune]

sdf: We had no intent of stealing trade secrets for Dark and Darker when leaving Nexon except that we copied the game assest for assest once we left

[viral pelican]

Feels like the new announcement its giving us a heads up that the servers are going to go down. sadge

[rose agate]

For running naked HR, you will lose most of your encounters, with some small exceptions like a rogue getting a sneak attack on a caster, so for farming loot it's simply not worth it. Unless you can reasonably run high tier gear, most fights are inherently not very worth it since even with 50% win rate, the reward for winning is not that great

[unkempt crescent]

In your guys‘s opinion is playing high PDR warlock better than fighter. I was playing High PDR slayer fighter yesterday and platelock got me good.

[slate geyser]

everybody should charge at (insert company name) with DBs and stinky sticks

[rapid lava]

Hopefully it gets shut down game is so ass now

[flat nymph]

"Early Access Season #9 will start on April 28, 2026.
Adventurers will have up until April 27th to progress through the Adventure Ranks and earn the newly revealed seasonal rewards. "

From announcements.

[bronze turtle]

if ur on a computer u just need to click in the dark and darker name right on top left, and then just click "leave server". dont forget to uninstall game, thanks!

[flat nymph]

Seriously. Why be here if you're hoping it gets shut down. Pathetic.

[rapid lava]

Nah I wanna stay and see the downfall or maybe they revert some changes and make the game worth playing again

[bronze turtle]

negative person bro, they are everywhere

[unkempt crescent]

I haven’t played since season three and I think it’s in a great state right now

[light burrow]

this game could be like amazing its so unique

[flat nymph]

It's getting there.

[plucky venture]

theres a lot of them. ussually they come to vent after dying to a rogue

[rapid lava]

I know it was definitely fun for a couple seasons

[flat nymph]

I think it's going in the right direction.

[signal bough]

Ill try and use your analogy

The majority of people are fine with having long or short hair. But if the hair dresser starts getting a lot of different haircut requests, its gonna take longer for everyone to get their hair cut, just because of a minority.

I sincerely hope you appreciate the fact I stuck to your analogy.
Cheers!

[rapid lava]

No I died to a bear

[trail depot]

real and true

[plucky venture]

skill issue

[rose agate]

The trend is, that the lower possibility for casual play and higher the influence of high-tier players on the game, the more negative people are attracted. This combined with how competetive the game is, just causes the CoD syndrome unfortunately, so no matter what the devs do, they won't be happy

[obsidian bolt]

SDF = SMART THIEF

[peak lynx]

Hair dresser built her clientele off of short hair then got more wealthy clients and stops servicing their original clients.

[rapid lava]

He's probably gonna win unfortunately

[lapis pivot]

Nerf every class and then give rogue to to through doors and rangers now have explosive arrows yeah I’m done with this shit

[obsidian bolt]

SDF = SMART THIEF

[thorny cape]

i love having super high magic resist

magic isnt real

[rapid lava]

And we still got druids 🤣 and the shitty jewelry system

[plucky venture]

imagine still thinking druid is an issue in the big 2026

[bronze turtle]

the real problem is having u and ur gang

complaining about druids, cmon

[rapid lava]

Freedom of speech

[bronze turtle]

just learn to play

[flat nymph]

Lmao it's not that bad.

[peak lynx]

Every Druid form besides bear is worse than a naked man with a sword. The bear is slow and can’t go through doors. Utilizes your feet, run away

[plucky venture]

you are asking the impossible 😄

[rapid lava]

Yeah that's bs, high gear druid is impossible to fight in solo

[plucky venture]

bahahahahhaha

[rapid lava]

Or even squire to riches the bear is so fast

[slow oxide]

Bro that's so tuff

Are we finna get Dark and Darker taken away from us

@little summit say it aint so

[rapid lava]

No SDF is a smart thief

[slow oxide]

SDF and smart do NOT go in the same sentence king

[rapid lava]

Maybe not in the development sense but espionage maybe

[slow oxide]

Fair, he's gotta be intelligent, just don't let bro cook patch notes

[rapid lava]

Fr, wait I wonder is he still lead dev after becoming CEO?

[slow oxide]

Didn't he move onto another game project or sumn stupid like that?

[rapid lava]

another game? Huh

[plucky venture]

SDF and NIKITA are joining forces to make a new game

[slow oxide]

Nikita gg worse than a gacha game

[rotund dagger]

Give it all to Nexon tbh they could probably do BETTER with the game.

[rapid lava]

Maybe game will get better this current season is so bad

[rotund dagger]

Fiddle faddling EA for 9 seasons is crazy, give the idea to a different company who won't waste time.

[steep violet]

When’s wipe?

[wary mirage]

The jewelry system is actually really good ngl

[plucky venture]

makes no sense, Nexon have no reason to make a game like this or continue with this project anyway

[sturdy coral]

lmao nobody tell bro how long some of these EA games stay in EA

[wary mirage]

This game is not made to be a mainstream game, the medieval thematic is not for everyone

[sturdy coral]

tarkov released this year right? after like 13 years of EA 😅

[spiral totem]

what do you guys think will be the season pack rewards? new background like this season or something else?

[rotund dagger]

Which is fucking crazier

[sturdy coral]

inferno themed bg would be sick actually

[austere lynx]

fucking hate rogue invis fucking hate that mechanic its impossible to counter fuck

[austere lynx]

just wanted to say it

[trail jetty]

Blue malestrom background

[harsh quartz]

light orb

[sturdy coral]

still use it on some characters, love the music

[plucky venture]

really ?

[trail jetty]

Pouch

[thorny cape]

throw stink bottle at them

[sturdy coral]

yea fart on em

[trail jetty]

Yeah

[austere lynx]

i know but if u dont want to play 10 spells wizard its difficult

[plucky venture]

rogue invis is the most predictable thing in the entire game

[trail jetty]

No it's not, it's ls parry

[rotund dagger]

Maybe give wizard/sorc a see invis spell that affects your teammates, you know give CONTENT

[plucky venture]

nah

[trail jetty]

That would be sick ngl

[rapid lava]

Just play barb you will be fine

[wary mirage]

Not really, if u have good headset yes, but without is just random. They need to remove this skill or at least half the number of steps in stealth

[trail jetty]

But what if...
I don't want to play barb

[trail jetty]

Or add the smoke outline effect every few steps/seconds

[plucky venture]

you realise its audible right ? even activating hide itself is audible..

[rapid lava]

Then play fighter

Actually just remove all magic class and keep it melee only

[trail jetty]

Alright you're SDF

[rapid lava]

If I was I would bring back the old jewelry system

And nerf druid to the ground

[trail jetty]

Can't tell if you're trolling or not

[plucky venture]

everything other than "get gud"

[rotund dagger]

Backpack guy for SDF!

[trail jetty]

I miss the old jewelry but frankly this isn't that bad

[thorny cape]

soon, i will buy all the stink bottles

[trail jetty]

Sure will boss

[rapid lava]

No I actually hate the jewelry system, druid 1v1 is the only thing I have difficulty with. Not too bad tho since I usually play trio.

[trail jetty]

Ok

Just play rogue

[rapid lava]

Yeah I might need to

Little cheeky but if it gets me a win on druids then fuck it

[trail jetty]

Druid ain't that bad gng...

I hate warlocks more

[rapid lava]

Nah I actually have nightmares about them

[thorny cape]

hey...

[rapid lava]

Spell casting?

[grand patio]

Druids ruin my day instantly

[trail jetty]

Yes

[rapid lava]

Wait what's your main?

[trail jetty]

Fighter / sorc / barb

[rapid lava]

THANK YOU and people here think I'm crazy for wanting a druid nerf

[rapid lava]

Adrenaline+sprint

And a full inventory of throwing axe

[trail jetty]

Mhm I mostly run second wind I know my issues I just refuse to play outside of my play style in the case I don't fight warlocks

[rapid lava]

Or go bow

[trail jetty]

Indeed

[rapid lava]

Become a ranger

[trail jetty]

Weapon mastery my beloved

[thorny cape]

as a warlock main, i hate rangers

[rapid lava]

I hate magic classes too, I literally have more success playing as a ranger in arena than actually going into melee

[trail jetty]

As an X, I hate Y who is a direct counter to x

[thorny cape]

exactly

you get it

[trail jetty]

I love running that disarm ability on fighter in arena

[rapid lava]

Lol bring back old disarm

[trail jetty]

I just hate how long it's cd is

It makes them panic so hard

[vivid moon]

@glad thunder pls add some abilities to crossbows. there is too low amount of it, only on one class - ranger, all of it is perks and all of it is about numbers like "+ N dmg, +N action speed". make some interesting mechanics and something active

[trail jetty]

Sdf add different arrow types

[rapid lava]

If we have explosive arrows make crossbows explosive too

[trail jetty]

Bro wants to make strength windlass ranger even stronger

[rapid lava]

Fr and let my fighter be able to use it

[trail jetty]

Fr

[rapid lava]

Double poison with pesti would go hard

[trail jetty]

Or like slow arrows, armor pen arrows

[vivid moon]

is this u again? the guy who see only "strong" and "weak" stuff in any thing

[trail jetty]

Like they have their own drawbacks, like increased inaccuracy or lower range

[trail jetty]

No I have no idea what you're talking about

[vivid moon]

boring, not a crossbow related ability

[trail jetty]

Hear me out

Crossbow riposte

[vivid moon]

good but its no ability its like basic thing

[rapid lava]

Add in repeating crossbow

[trail depot]

how to beat rogue? he kill me to day!

[thorny cape]

i mean some classes have an insta cast skill, what about a fast crossbow reload skill

[rapid lava]

Play barb

[trail jetty]

True true...

Wtb like a true shot but for crossbows

[rapid lava]

Wait is the increased artificial chance going to carry over to s9

If so game might be worth playing again

[vivid moon]

boring, no active mechanic

[trail jetty]

Whats your suggestion

[pseudo whale]

Do I have a better chance of getting 10 tears myself, or trying to by 10 tears off the market for 83k a piece? (Im poor)

[trail jetty]

Artefact handgonne: a handgonne thats just as good at melee as it is for ranged. When it has ammo, LMB will shoot, when it has no ammo, LMB will do a melee attack with working riposte

[fiery portal]

can we just get paladin and monk already

[trail jetty]

Can we just get two whole classes and seven new weapons and actually 3 maps tomorrow

[trail depot]

think they said monk is planned for season 11 if not 12

[thorny cape]

whats the market price on my corrupted heart

[narrow peak]

sounds fair... not sure why you makin it sound like its too much... we waited 10 seasons for rework of two broken classes to be more broken

[fiery portal]

when was the last class released bud

[trail jetty]

My heart is free because apparently she didn't need mine so much

[fiery portal]

god i hate the wait on the martial builds

[vivid moon]

idk mb crossbow butt strike with pushing away, ricochet, mb like barb hook but it is u who is pulled to the target (walls too)

[thorny cape]

i mean like, the drop from the midnight stag?

[trail depot]

monk will be so much more exciting than druid i can feel it

[trail jetty]

Wait that 2nd one cooks

[trail jetty]

Sorry I'm no help with that

[fiery portal]

100%

[trail jetty]

I actually have no idea what the monk does in actual DND

[rapid lava]

Give monk one punch kill

[dusky spruce]

So I have to question, was there really a point to reverting inferno to its alpha state? I mean its a cool aesthetic and all, but we have a fire map already.

[thorny cape]

beats people up with bear hands

[fiery portal]

no armor and is unarmed focused lel

[trail depot]

probably the most busted class in actual dnd haha

[trail jetty]

Monks are united in their ability to magically harness the energy that flows in their bodies. Whether channeled as a striking display of combat prowess or a subtler focus of defensive ability and speed, this energy infuses all that a monk does.

[fiery portal]

real

[trail jetty]

Martial magic

[rapid lava]

They have no content so they had to do a re skin

[vagrant fulcrum]

Pinning shot / Binding shot.
After loading a specific bolt into your crossbow (activation time, shorter than reload time), your next crossbow shot will [heavily slow / Bind in place / Limit their movement (akin to a trap)].

[trail jetty]

Even in actual DND I'm a fighter main

[vivid moon]

overdraw would go better to the crossbow instead of bow, which is already have million abilities. llike mb if u aim to the target long time = dmg increase

[dusky spruce]

In that case bring back blue crypts smh

[trail jetty]

Idk if that's how crossbows work...

[rapid lava]

Facts

[trail jetty]

Can they add more oriental weapons and armor

Sorcerer is clearly Indian why can't we have oriental stufff

[near rose]

Anyone gota lad I'll give a good barb kit four it

[trail jetty]

Not a single word spelt right

[trail depot]

will maybe see stuff like that with monk release

[trail jetty]

Hopefully, I'm more interested in monk drip you see

[vivid moon]

i mean its just logic, u aim longer = better = u have better chance to hit vulnerable spots. so like in terms of tht game it is just +dmg. btw it would be cool if there was a perk which allows to see "vulnerable" points (like red spots on the body) and f u hit it its like more than headshot dmg. or if u hit - u stack some debuff (strong enough to recoup not just hitting the head)

[trail jetty]

Overdraw = draw the bow for longer to add more tension

Crossbows don't have that mechanical property...

[trail depot]

would be cool to see some monk gear similar to diablo 3 i think

[trail jetty]

It's like saying that aiming a gun for longer will make the bullet hurt more

[vivid moon]

yeah yeah, i mean in terms of game mechanics its the ~same. longer aim or draw = more dmg

[trail jetty]

I think you're lowk just a windlass strength ranger

I'm going to viking sword your balls

[vagrant fulcrum]

This is a magical universe, not bound by the same physics.
Double jump, falling from a high tower without taking any damage.

[trail jetty]

Forage for berries gng

[pallid hemlock]

anyone excited to fight Gloomy Demon?

[trail jetty]

I just want boss practise custom maps

[vivid moon]

no i just want a weapon to be as interesting to play as other weapons are. there is no good abiliities for crossbows in the game at all. and its base mechanic is simple. 1 button - 1 shot - 1 reload. boring

[pallid hemlock]

all of the tragic mechanically-unintuitive apsects of the games design are actually just magic. magic crows, magic momentum, W!!!

[subtle goblet]

the balrog shall perish

[trail jetty]

That's fair enuff. But I want abilities that make sense

Thoughts on a Chu ko nu crossbow

[subtle goblet]

even a triple shot crossbow would make people whine like crazy

[naive wolf]

so the trailer for the NEW SEASON is just a showcase for a couple new abilities for ranger and rogue. this game won't last another year lmao

[trail jetty]

A low damage low range fast firing lever action crossbow with an ammo reload mechanic

[trail jetty]

People said that last year, that's probably not going to be the only things they're gonna add

[naive wolf]

buddy u think if they had more they wouldnt put it in the trailer?

[trail jetty]

Ranger spear ability, they charge forward dealing 70(0.5) weapon damage

[trail jetty]

Idk man I don't make trailers

[naive wolf]

obv u dont make the trailers but u do have a brain that u can think with

[atomic cove]

Not everything has to be in trailer, surprise element is nice

If it's not big thing

[finite yoke]

True ranger needs more high damage melee range abilities

[trail jetty]

Word, you don't usually spoil the ending to a movie in a trailer just cuz you want to show content

[naive wolf]

yall are coping lol

[trail jetty]

You have a brain too yknw

[atomic cove]

You are here man

[plain fox]

Question! Anything special about the midnight stag in terms of drops? Like, what does it do exactly

[slender orchid]

Please give us explosive franciscas

[subtle goblet]

lmao

[trail jetty]

Atp give us Semtex grenades BCS that's exactly what you're asking for

[naive wolf]

havent played or been active in the dc in years but i like to see whats left in this desert of a community every once in a while

[trail jetty]

Woah people that don't even play the game anymore are complaining

[vivid moon]

i like ranger to have some alternative semi melee builds (like slayer o fighter), but this one is too aggressive. and spear is not a ranger base weapon. more like active skill - kick. interrupts any action or not interrupting yours, pushing away

[mighty willow]

hello

[trail jetty]

Classic DAD comminity

[trail jetty]

Hello gang

[slender orchid]

Explosive franciscas, explosive drums, explosive throwing knives, thundering whirlwinds pls

[naive wolf]

i just think yall deserve better than this. there are so many better games

[vivid moon]

but mb with some buff for melee. cus other way it would be another ranged kiting skill

[naive wolf]

u dont have to force urself to enjoy this terrible game

[mighty willow]

new to this game. what's the best starter class

[slender orchid]

Have a bard song that makes them stationary but puts enemies to sleep

[trail jetty]

Nah.

I enjoy this game, I'm not a Chinese minmaxxer

[trail jetty]

Bard song that puts skeletons back to sleep

[trail jetty]

Including faustians

[slender orchid]

Make artifacts part of squire last day of wipe

[high briar]

what's the announcement about is it good or bad or what's up

[naive wolf]

oh youre new, give it a couple months

[atomic cove]

It's good

[subtle goblet]

can you not read it yourself or?

[high briar]

ty

[mighty willow]

hmm this sorcerer thing looks interesting. imma pick this

[trail jetty]

New discord account, I've been playing for a year and half

[trail jetty]

Its prolly uh..

Too long

[subtle goblet]

oh that announcement i thought you meant the trailer, my bad

[trail jetty]

Ah lmfao

[high briar]

English not my native there's some terms i don't understands and im not updated with the court thingy i judt know there's a lawsuit

[nova gyro]

dont worry, day 30 of april, the game will continue or end. no worries

[subtle goblet]

All g man i wasn't being mean or anything just being curious ❤️

[high briar]

np bro all good

[high briar]

i hope it will continue i really love this game no matter how fucked it's

[tall zenith]

Still no love to wizard…. 🧙‍♂️ its so cooked

[trail jetty]

The court ruling will come April 30, the announcement isn't necessarily good or bad, just a status report of the court hearing and a reaffirment of sdf's stance

[rotund blade]

What’s going on

[sturdy coral]

yeah hang on tho lol... this upcoming decision on april 30 has very little bearing on the game continuing or not

[trail jetty]

Original company ironmace was founded on accused ironmace of stealing their own code for profit

[sturdy coral]

the decisions by the court so far have NOT been to shut down the game

[high briar]

i hope they don't shut the game and end the lawsuit so maybe the devs can have full focus on improving the game

[trail jetty]

True...

It's hard to develop a game and fight a court case against nexon of all people simultaneously

[tall zenith]

I thought they already won the case?? Whats going on lol

[trail jetty]

Clearly not

I think there'd more charges???? But court ruling on April 30

[sturdy coral]

this is the final appeal to a) clear ironmace's name or b) have a fine confirming the trade secrets violation

[tall zenith]

I heard a while back they won the case and rights to the game

[high briar]

yeah it's sad, always the big scamers fighting small devs/indi guys

[burnt canyon]

Most people would say barb or fighter. They’re straight forward so it’s easier to learn the base mechanics of the game like movement and mob attack animations

[copper fern]

Well Fighter is never a a bad choice he can have all weapons so you experiment with them. He has a good set of skills and a few playstles and a 40 percent heal button that can help you learn the game

[trail jetty]

Fighter most def

[mighty willow]

erm I think it's too late for that.....

[trail jetty]

Why so you can always delete your current character and make a fighter

[woven terrace]

The biggest rogue nerf of all time: pings

Holy fuckkkkkkk W change

[solid coyote]

yall think that boss in the trailer is ignir the boss that was brainwashing the dwarfs

[trail jetty]

I love pings

Dude this is going to fix the language barrier in east asia servers I'm not even kidding

[solid coyote]

were going to need them with the shadow step

[trail jetty]

I want an auto translate feature in the chat

[wind venture]

So I'll be returning back after 3-4 seasons. What class would be good to start on to gain some wealth?

[devout surge]

honestly wtf is the point of shields if you get hit even if you actually blocked the mfn attack

[solid coyote]

ranger seems to be op soon

[devout surge]

jesus christ when will you get this shit right

[wind venture]

@solid coyoteYeah but you need to be able to aim well xD

[trail jetty]

Skill issue I fear

[solid coyote]

You need to aim to use a sword or spells?

[mighty willow]

bruh how can i remove this gold coin pouch it says its a banned item

[trail jetty]

Ranger..?

[trail jetty]

Bring it to your stash

[trail depot]

take it out of your inventory and put it in stash

[solid coyote]

any class you dont aim with a sword you get parried

[mighty willow]

oh thanks

[devout surge]

weak bait

[trail jetty]

He's talking ABT aiming with a ranger why bring up spells

[solid coyote]

You need to aim for any class ranger is way to get good at it

[trail jetty]

I just had no real thing to say hope you understand

[wind venture]

@solid coyoteBeing a melee is a lot different then being a ranger. (At least from what I remember) Positioning is a huge skill check, hitting with a sword is easier then with a bow. LEt's just say you need a lot more skill then a barb or fighter, rogue.

[solid coyote]

yes you do but you learn those skill with ranger you becoem a better barb figher or rogue and you use s decent longbow with that explosive shot seem op

[wind venture]

I do wonder if the arrow explosion is magical, and if people go mass magical dps ranger

[neon marsh]

🦛

[solid coyote]

artifact for ranger increasing fire dmg?

[wind venture]

@solid coyoteTrue, true, tho barb, fighter, rogue takes not so long to be decent with. Ranger is a big step imo, to not get steam rolled.

[mighty willow]

dem I'm so bad at this game i dont even know the controls

[wind venture]

And from what I've seen, now that true dps is gone I believe? A good ranger kit cost so much.

On one side I want to do ranger, cause if you land those shot, man it wins fights. On the other if they get to you/you miss? You're a clown

[mighty aurora]

Id argue between these 4 roles the Rogue is the middle ground in difficulty, Barb and Fighter are fairly intuitive on how to play well and Ranger has a ton of unique skill curves that are pretty exclusive to the class, and Rogue is like a 50/50

[solid coyote]

i have a harder time with it myself but after i played it a but i was way better at other classes positioning if you fight soemthing like a barb and a rogue or figher you learn to back up and keep distance because of damaging skills liek spin and reclass

[mighty aurora]

But Ranger is functionally one of the harder classes to master

[wind venture]

Yeah that’s why I’m debating, is it worth to stuff in hundreds of hours? Hmm…

I actually was hoping monk would be here already

[trail jetty]

It's not your fault, the game doesn't hold your hand at any point in time

[mighty aurora]

I hope the end of the lawsuit gives relief to add more shit at once, this next update depending on how massive the Inferno rework is couldve been an email

I imagine this has been a huge undertaking for the company

(I also want my Bard rework especially after the last balance changes)

[tall jolt]

new inferno literally takes all the game's sauce away

[mighty aurora]

How so? Im about to watch the trailer genuinely curious

[atomic cove]

What did you choose

[tall jolt]

cuz we're just making it the generic fire room like every other game does instead of the actually unique idea of a hell that feels like hell

shits just orange and old modules too not even new modules whats the point

[mighty aurora]

I kinda see what you mean

Theres way less blood

[tall jolt]

0 blood its just fire and orange walls with some red

[mighty aurora]

Hoping its just some of the rooms that dont have blood in the name, but my faith for stuff like this is pretty low

[tall jolt]

idk they're just allergic to making something new

its not new content to play old content with a sticker on it

[thorny cape]

should i try using staff parry?

[nova gyro]

looks like there is a new boss and some new rooms to escape, not the old portals

[mighty aurora]

I personally want a 1st floor to the Ice Cavern thats 1/2 outside and 1/2 inside and everyone spawns outside

Rather than the flies or freezing with the timer an avalanche closes off parts of the map until the map outside is closed, basically making it a dash to get inside the caverns

[tall jolt]

just doesn't warrant a full map visual redesign

[mighty aurora]

Although I like getting into Ice Abyss fast so I could give or take an ice 1st floor

[nova gyro]

true, gotta way to see, but probably just some texture changed XD

[tall jolt]

yea like there's so many different things they could try to actually innovate i feel like but they just stick in their linear method of patching things and iterating

[nova gyro]

I was hoping to see some new spells for wizard, druid and warlock

[tall jolt]

good one

devs hate 2 of those, maybe someday

[nova gyro]

I mean, put a goal of 16 perks to each class and just do it, nike style

[tall jolt]

you'd think right

[mighty aurora]

At least balance is stable with Paul, even if I disagree with the Bard changes in particular I see the logic

SDF patch notes felt like russian roulette with half the chamber filled

[nova gyro]

bard only got nerf like 4 seasons in a row

[vapid oyster]

acting like they haven't put out the roadmap on changes for each class already

[nova gyro]

where? i missed that one

[chrome bone]

arena end today in night?

[noble verge]

Lmfao

[vapid oyster]

[pallid hemlock]

there isnt one. look at bros response ^

[thorny cape]

will there be more changes than whats already been anounced you think?

[mighty aurora]

Ive never had a game make me excited when we hit a dry spout with balance changes like Dark and Darker did

[mighty aurora]

Lol

[nova gyro]

probably some balance changes, together with the new season

[mighty aurora]

Maybe more balance changes at most but whats new with that

[pallid hemlock]

theres a chance we dont even get all of what was announcned. no

[nova gyro]

and 2 weeks of rogues beating everyone

[pallid hemlock]

anyone excited to fight Gloomy Demon????

[mighty aurora]

Your name is living proof of this statement

[nova gyro]

lol

[pallid hemlock]

Backpacks? nah.... Arrow stacks made bigger with a reskin (Quiver, 3+ years in development😔 )

[nova gyro]

backpacks are a nightmare to manage

[mighty aurora]

They need to get a 2nd class rework guy

[slow salmon]

Why is plate lock strong enough to win hit for hit against a barb?

[lyric bough]

is it me or does SDF's announcement seem weird

[slow salmon]

SDF is no longer relevant.

[nova gyro]

ui manager gamer, already a pain in the ass I have to play tetris in the inventory

[pallid hemlock]

inventory on contoller in any capacity is, from what ive heard

[mighty aurora]

It sounds like he thinks hes fucked

But that could be the translation

[pallid hemlock]

yes it straight up is contradictory

[lyric bough]

active lawsuit, and he's talking about it, seems dumb, and i dont think its something the players really care that much about right? like it's not a hot topic of discussion

[mighty aurora]

At this point at worst Nexon keeps the money and gets some more and its settled, at best IM wins and gets the money back and settles

[restive canopy]

maybe they will close the game then we gg

[nova gyro]

someday we might get a tech tree and some longe leveling up interval... just a shame that 3 games everyone is lvl 20 with all perks

[mighty willow]

da cool looking one, sorcerer ofc

[mighty aurora]

Sounds like 3 new employees we have to pay

[nova gyro]

if they do that, I hope they release the source code by "acident" so someone else can take over

[nova gyro]

i mean, give the job I do it.

[wind venture]

@mighty aurorayeah we gotta see how that all goes. I'm just debating what I should pick to start the season with.

[pallid hemlock]

off to the 3rd studio!

[nova gyro]

go rogue, until the nerf. nothing to wonder about here

[mighty aurora]

I think the next step theyll take to increase engagement once the map reworks finish is to have droppable backpacks that are rare boss/pile spawns that add 1-2 rows horizontally and/or vertically to inventory in different sizes

[indigo dune]

is there anywhere we can see the new perks and skils?

[mighty aurora]

Add skins and they print money ig

[pallid hemlock]

really if someone wanted to it wouldnt be difficult. just a money/manpower issue. drop $2-3k on the FAB assets and then its just recreating the 6 mechanics and its all just boof scaling from there. whole lotta math play

[wind venture]

rogue does look nutty with the teleport

[signal sundial]

Probably pretty big news in SK and top of their minds

[mighty aurora]

I hope once its over the content pipeline increases since theyre still burning money on the case until its settled

[nova gyro]

shadowstep, sneak, pickpocket... is gonna be wild XD

[mighty aurora]

Id rather drop a million as a company with an existing player base than sit in forever court

[wind venture]

@nova gyroDont you get damaged? when using the TP

[mighty aurora]

Then we could rehire the quiver guy and add more quiver types @pallid hemlock

[pallid hemlock]

shadowstep into the pickpocket then hit tumble when they turn around.... W

[nova gyro]

I hope that once this final result comes out, I would love some fast pace patchs and upgrades to the game too.

[nova gyro]

LOL nice

[pallid hemlock]

quiver types 💀 nah delete that

[nova gyro]

dunno, did he get damaged?

[pallid hemlock]

theyre gonna make that a priority

[mighty aurora]

LOL

potion quiver

[thorny cape]

where did you guys see what theyre adding

[pallid hemlock]

nah imeidatly chalk it, i already know we are getting this before a new wiz spell

[nova gyro]

#📢community-announcements

[mighty aurora]

Trailer

[wind venture]

@nova gyroIf you do get damaged, sadly you cant do stealth to pickpocket. Cause you'd know

[nova gyro]

go with tumbling then, sounds more fun anyways hahaha

[mighty aurora]

IM would rework every single class and dungeon in 2 weeks if it meant not touching wizard

[pallid hemlock]

dagger quiver so when they add 5 new dagger types, rogue can carry every one of them at once

[nova gyro]

wizz is just left on a shelf rn, no new spells for 3 seasons already, ( magic lock ) sucks balls

[mighty aurora]

The best part of playing modern wizard is uninstalling

[rotund dagger]

THey will never touch that class, monk will come out before that happens and that will come in... NEVER

[pallid hemlock]

and the most egregious part IMO is that bard just been chillin with magic unlock, acutally useful magic utility

[nova gyro]

probably they add monk before adding new wizz spells

[pallid hemlock]

useful magic utility??? hmmm..... give it to the party buffing music man!!!!

[mighty aurora]

Bard needs more skill/perk variety

Song memory 1 should be 7 songs and song memory 2 should be 3 songs with a small memory buff

[nova gyro]

bard was strong, but since they changed resourcefulness, everyone lost interest in playing it

[rotund dagger]

Delete sorc and split the sorc spells to bard, warlock and wiz

[pallid hemlock]

W

[nova gyro]

no point on making music if you are the only one that benefit from it

[pallid hemlock]

rogue tele before wiz tele 🤣 🤣 what in the chalk and chalker.....

rogue is probably gonna get a summon first too. summon a rat or some shit

[nova gyro]

sorc should be a subclass of wizz or something.

[mighty aurora]

Wizard is Chopped and Chopper

[rotund dagger]

This game is Chopped nad Chooper

loooool

[pallid hemlock]

Chopped and Chopper, Chalked and Chalker, Boof and Goofer

take your pick on "Word and Worder"

[nova gyro]

wizz is strong, dont get me wrong here. But lacks variability... everyone runs fireball, zap, explosion, frostbolt and invis, with instant cast

bonk wizz is a joke, unless you have illusory

[rotund blade]

Make cockatrice playable race

[tall agate]

pregnant goblin when?

[rotund blade]

Horse combat when

[restive canopy]

pregnant dwarf

[atomic cove]

Probably most difficult class in the game currently

[faint vigil]

last quest for the colector is stupid

this is just promoting gold buying and cheating

[atomic cove]

I believe in you, you are forklift certified!

[atomic cove]

When you make it pregnant

[turbid star]

Is dark cooked?

[noble verge]

Buff resourcefulness

Make bard have spell memory and more skills and perks

[minor perch]

Anyone think squire royal will have solos mode?

[noble verge]

… add preggo gobbo

[steel radish]

WHY CANT I READY UP IN ARENAS IM STILL LIMITED BY MMR

[rotund blade]

Playing sea of thieves because it’s less heart wrenching

[hearty dagger]

until you discover the players who load into a lobby set the boat on fire then leave

[mighty willow]

wait what

[noble verge]

Can this game be made darker? I wanna see some F’d up shit in inferno

[rotund blade]

Solo queue

[royal thistle]

we got the balrog in game before we nerfed fighter and barbarian.

[pallid hemlock]

Gloomy Demon!!!

[swift grove]

they arent nerfing anymore. theyre buffing classes to match

[royal thistle]

fighter/barb mains require 0 skill and this game is dead because of it

[small saffron]

bard feels real buffed right now

[swift grove]

iirc they pushed back cleric and wiz to fit bard stuff in season 10 with either lock or sorc

[nova gyro]

kkkkkkkk right?! barb is just a W machine

[small saffron]

barb and fighter arent a problem

only problem is rogue

[pallid hemlock]

right now or when teleport is released? 🤣 🤣 🤣

[small saffron]

both xd

[pallid hemlock]

chalk it

Gloomy Demon will save us

[plain fox]

If anyone needs help with quests etc. let me know!

[small saffron]

i need 3 more tears 😄

[plain fox]

Ahh, just lemme know if you need help with farming

[small saffron]

nah im just trolling atp i just need gold

[plain fox]

Man, it really seems like no one needs any help, just money 🥲

Actual real life simulator

[shrewd glen]

is arena closing before wipe?

[slow scaffold]

Can you help me learn colossus got the most of it down 2nd phase kills ke tho

The splash part

[arctic inlet]

Which bosses drop kumas fang?

[mighty willow]

how do i escape this midnight thing that automatically kills me

[fringe wigeon]

escape from the dungeon in blue portals,elevators or blue stairs
o go down in the dungeon in red portals or red stairs

[pseudo blaze]

Well there goes all desire to learn sorc and wiz for next season

[charred veldt]

Wait 3 more months boy

[mighty willow]

how to merge spells

[charred veldt]

For the cleric and wiz rework

[jade depot]

Skeleton Warlord!

[arctic inlet]

Which bosses drop kumas fang?

Why'd it send twice

[arctic inlet]

Thank you

[jade depot]

No prob!

[atomic cove]

Get one spell each wheel and hold them together and press R

[mighty willow]

oh I thought u gotta do it in character menu

[atomic cove]

These spells need to be compatible tho

[mighty willow]

frost lightning sounds cool

[atomic cove]

And yes you combine them in character menu and then you can use them in game

It just depends what spells you take

Frost lightning is currently meta

It does damage and freezes someone long enough to hit them with second spell

[mighty willow]

is there a time limit for the midnight thing?

[glass sigil]

Sup peeps, I'm coming back after like a year away or smth - is it still poopoopeepee to play solo anything but the meta class?

[pseudo blaze]

Those just show you the compatibility’s of them

[mighty willow]

and how do I know which is the exit? I only saw the yellow ribbon thing in the map so far

[pseudo blaze]

Blue is exit

[mighty willow]

what's the yellow one

[pseudo blaze]

Red is technically exit too but you go deeper into a new dungeon but can deposit your gear for a small fee in between

[fringe wigeon]

yellow???

[pseudo blaze]

Resurrection altar

[fringe wigeon]

that make sense

[pseudo blaze]

Revive teammates there by taking off their chest piece and grabbing their heart

[glass sigil]

sorc still busted?

[mighty willow]

bruh

so it's useless to a solo player

[pseudo blaze]

Solid until 4 days from now yeah

Play it while you can

[glass sigil]

what happens in 4 days, wipe?

[pseudo blaze]

Rogues can teleport behind you

[glass sigil]

wot

[pseudo blaze]

#📢community-announcements watch the trailer

[glass sigil]

Better off not coming back then xD

[pseudo blaze]

Just enjoy playing range for the next 3 days while we still can

[glass sigil]

Is playing solo still lost cause?

[pseudo blaze]

Idk I play solo

[charred veldt]

Yall cant be crying 24 7

If rogue is such an issue pull up with warlock

Dark offering warlock

[fringe wigeon]

it depends on what class u play

[charred veldt]

Out range, out damage, our tanks

Can beat up rogues and rangers like its lightwork

[glass sigil]

I used to play wiz but they were outclassed by everything

[pseudo blaze]

Wiz needs new spells badly

Needs a double spell wheel build

[charred veldt]

Barb damage + twice wiz damage + druid reflect x10 unlimiyed spells

[glass sigil]

I used to play Wiz/Fighter solo but I was always hard countered and idk how to play around that bc I'm not good

[charred veldt]

5 second 0 to full hp

[fringe wigeon]

yeah, don't play it unless u are in god gear with god gameplay

[mighty willow]

of all things to die to I got freakin done in by a chicken

[charred veldt]

Imo wiz should get a water splash spell with slow and reduced action speed for close range with a little knockback

[pseudo blaze]

Honestly the easiest class for solos is barb with potion chugger, crush, and iron will

[charred veldt]

With 2 charges and quick cast speed

[pseudo blaze]

Using savage roar and rage

[charred veldt]

Also a perk that nullifies a silence but gives you a 30% cast speed penalty for 3 seconds

[glass sigil]

That's fair, but I never liked barb gameplay, it felt like I was cheesing the game

[charred veldt]

"Clear mind" could be the name

[glass sigil]

is fighter okay solo or is that countered by literally every ranged class? xD

[charred veldt]

Not really, can hiy harder than ranger

With longbow, just slower

And plate armor makes it a pain to kill with ranged damage

And if they wear obsidian might as well throw the bow at them

[pseudo blaze]

It’s pretty solid solo, just bring a bow and magical protection pots

[glass sigil]

thanks for the advice

hopefully I like it more this time

[high roost]

Is the new season even gonna be good?

[pseudo blaze]

Barb is just easier because you can run iron will perk and have zero bad matchups

[charred veldt]

Ill play

[pseudo blaze]

Once they revert shadow step it’ll be good

[high roost]

Trailer looks boring asf. Some stupid additions to ranger and rogue then another mapskin change for inferno

[charred veldt]

Except one

[high roost]

Just seems lazy?

[charred veldt]

New boss

[high roost]

True

[pseudo blaze]

What 1

[charred veldt]

Warlock

[pseudo blaze]

Those are easy if you run potion chugger and crush

[charred veldt]

More physical damage bonus, half HP 1 spell and counyer

[high roost]

But like who even really overly cared about the new gobby boss

[charred veldt]

What??

[high roost]

New bosses are cool for like 2-4 days lol

[charred veldt]

Oh mb I forgot to say Dark Offering warlock

[pseudo blaze]

You just run from them into mobs while healing with pots

[charred veldt]

No need to chug potions if your HP is gone within 3 seconds

[pseudo blaze]

Then turn on them

[unreal verge]

Why no SA South American tournament was up? 🙁

[reef badge]

Yeah but that one more reliant on rng than other bosses in the game

[charred veldt]

Still more damage and can kill with 3 dark bolts

And even landing a curse of pain, pulling halberd hitting once and proccing the dark reflect takes them out

60% physical and magical damage should br illegal

[pseudo blaze]

I’ve only ever died to a warlock on barb by trying to chase them, it’s been impossible for them to even keep up with me now

[high roost]

Yeah I’m definitely gonna play cause I hate love this game. But don’t think this new season is going to bring back the player base at all unfortunately

[charred veldt]

Still, you cant chase them

Isnt thay by definition a bad matchup

[keen totem]

Anything confirmed for next wipe just yet?

[charred veldt]

Yes

Everything actually

[high roost]

They have a video in community announcements

[pseudo blaze]

Kinda I view bad matchups as someone I can’t get away from and live against

[keen totem]

Ty

[high roost]

Boring ass trailer tho

[charred veldt]

Then everything is a bad matchup for dwarfs

[brittle barn]

50%*, but if you realize someone’s Dark Offering you should just stalk & kite them til the stacks run out then they’re a free kill

[pseudo blaze]

Ye I kill most of the warlocks who chase me on barb lol

[charred veldt]

If being hit by a single dark bolt doesnt leave you on half

[brittle barn]

And if you’re half? Close a door and drink a potion lmao

[scenic bramble]

when wipe

[brittle barn]

Door game for 2 potions and then you’re full

[pseudo blaze]

I just crush a door and immediately run to the mobs and put them behind me

Barb is the best kiting class

[glass sigil]

oh man didn't realised it was a full wipe in 4 days I'm defo not coming back now xD

see you all in a week ig

[humble ledge]

are the servers down?

[scenic bramble]

same ig

ill play a bit to check it out

[mighty willow]

I understand this now

[brittle barn]

If they announce on the 30th they’re shutting down, what are yall gonna do with your new found freedom?

I’m thinking maybe I’ll form a relationship with my son

[fallen solstice]

find another game to waste thousands of hours on

[charred veldt]

Arc will be open ig

Hopefully not

[brittle barn]

I heard Marauders is starting back up

[charred veldt]

I cant run down people with big axes there

[wraith wigeon]

I’m new and am planning to grind hard for a SSF kit for the next 48 hours. This is good plan, yes?

[brittle barn]

U should go into Arenas wearing Squire gear

[charred veldt]

You said nothing about your plan

No map, no strat

"Im thinking on using luck perk on bard" or smthing other tham "grind hard"

😭

[wraith wigeon]

My bro. Strat is play Barb, run at player with axe in goblin cave.

[bitter thunder]

When's the next q&a or is there one

[charred veldt]

... Uhhh

Suit yourself?

I guess thats the easy way

Of running people down

Inferno can have better loot but the running down people time decreases proportionally

Or uhh, in other words: inferno bis low running down.
Gob caves run down ppl yes

[wraith wigeon]

Is frowned upon to queue arena, dump all gear on ground and play naked?

[brittle barn]

Yeah lol

[charred veldt]

Not on lower scores?

Just say you are practicing for monk or smthing

[wraith wigeon]

Monk has Dhalsim abilities?

[sour sapphire]

does luck increase artifact drop chance?

[modest wadi]

did they reduce the double luck on artifacts?

[uncut mulch]

Does pomel strike still silence others ?

[charred veldt]

Uhh probably?

[mighty aurora]

It lowers the chance of lower tier drops afaik

So technically yeah, just not a raw % increase

If artifact is like 3% for example, if you remove common and uncommon drops from appearing and balance it out across the other tiers, instead of getting a flat increase per item rarity it would be in accordance with the current table, so 500 luck would look more like a +.5% artifact chance at most while rare and epic increase dramatically

If Im correct about how it works which who the hell knows at this point

[mighty aurora]

I know numbers are shit but its just a way to make an example on how it works

[glass sigil]

Just saw this, is that true?

[brittle barn]

Yeah after 2 years of dead silence the devs made an announcement

[glass sigil]

Just saw it, that's HUGE if that comes back - loved that game

[torpid root]

does magic healing work with bt?

[solid coyote]

magic healing is any healing done by spell

no skill like second wind

or healing or bandage

[torpid root]

ok it dosent work with bloodthirst

[solid coyote]

druid cleric and warlock

[torpid root]

what about phys heal?

[solid coyote]

pyhs would d othat

if you to magic dmg with it it might but prob phys heal aswell

[torpid root]

ok ty for the help

[devout surge]

this one never fails - best strat is choose the favored child, barbarian

[solid coyote]

why not hit them with a axe from across the map with ranger?

[devout surge]

fair enough

[leaden zinc]

Giving away viola + cinder AND MORE very soon! Hope to see some of you there 😄

[honest cedar]

Can you feel the anger from the community that Rogue is finally getting toys to play with?

• Season 9 is going to be the season of Salt

[dusky spruce]

idk shadowstep seems less like a toy and more like an instant win button

[leaden zinc]

Master baiter

[dusky spruce]

Not so sure about this one Paul...

[tulip arch]

Idk how any devs signed off on like any if these perks or skills

[leaden zinc]

I am just glad to hear that clown SDF went to "other projects" legit only reason I came back to this game

[tribal zodiac]

ppl are bitchin about Rogues but nobody cares about white halberd oneshots in norms to blue gear etc

pathetic

[azure tinsel]

your better off prob j building more dmg for max heals

[torpid root]

true

[wraith wigeon]

I am giving away several white bandages and common red potions soon. Queue S2R and find my dead body.

[fiery sigil]

hi guys can i pull an artifact from key room in water map key found i gold chest?

[unkempt pebble]

anyone knows why is my chat disabled?i cant fine de config to activate it

[glacial valley]

anybody got an empty coin chest they don't want? I don't have enough room to accept the gold from this tear sale lmao

[sturdy coral]

yes all the key room piles can drop artifacts on HR

[glacial valley]

what about regular non key room piles

[plain fox]

Any other quest line with emotes/special stuff next to goblin, tavern, religion, season and collector?

[jade depot]

I don't think it's possible for non key room to have artifacts 👀

[blazing pulsar]

plz fix the basic gameplay mechanics before you add new stuff

[brisk swallow]

yo, does anyone want to donate 80k gold to me so i can get the religion reward?

[lament pendant]

guys when is next wipe?

[leaden zinc]

Cinder giveaway in 5 min!

[misty blade]

bruhhhhhh

Sorcerer is SO FUCKING bad, how do you get value out of this dogwater ahhh kit??

[jade depot]

End of April!

[small saffron]

open the game

[wicked stump]

Do u lose your character in the wipe or just the items?

[misty blade]

genuinely cannot think of a worse example of bad game design than creating a new character who revolves around spells, and making pretty much all of those spells unusable on the new map your team spent like half a year making

it's bafflingly stupid when you think about it for a second

it's like none of them were smart enough to sit there for a few seconds and be like, "Wait..... you cant use wind, fire, or ground target spells on the new map? But that's most of our new character's kit."

whole team of developers btw

[gilded urchin]

shadowstep is gonna ruin this game innit

[loud creek]

its possible

[noble verge]

If anyone can explain to me why water combat is needed in the first place that would be great

[light burrow]

wheres the bis goblin caves or crypts

[noble verge]

No fire spells but you can shoot arrows 😂

Swimming in plate armor (or any armor) 😂😂

[misty blade]

because sdf wanted a map where his class, Druid, is practically unbeatable

[loud creek]

I dont know, even if Paul is the head of most it now, IM is notorious for releasing new skills/reworks to be absolutely and completely busted

It wouldn't surprise me if they also release skins for ranger and rogue stuff the first week of new wipe to capitalize on how broken the new stuff for those two classes will be. It would straight up be a Pearl Abyss/Black Desert Online playbook

[noble verge]

I think he wanted to make a pirate game that is my suspicion about what the other project is

[misty blade]

PLEASE dont tell me we're getting more physical class stuff

Are we at least getting some new fucking spells?

[loud creek]

....brother have u seen the new trailer

the two arguably most controversial physical classes are getting 'reworked'

[woeful bluff]

Surely not. Theres already a few big ones out there or upcoming. And assassin's creed black flag resynced or whatever lol

[misty blade]

sigh. let me take a look

[loud creek]

oh dear

get ready, he's going to find out

[woeful bluff]

Ranger is getting magic!

[loud creek]

lol

i wonder what damage type explosive arrows would be

would be magic, huh?

[woeful bluff]

I gotta try a 50 will ranger build. Maybe survival bow forceful shot.

[misty blade]

okay, so... theyre actually fucking stupid, huh?

They're making a NEW system to find a party after removing matchmaking that already worked ToT

[woeful bluff]

Go crazy with explosive shot

[loud creek]

we dont know the exact stats for the new skills and stuff though, we don't know the scaling

could be 0.8, could be 1.0...

who knows

[misty blade]

After saying "we think it's fine if you have to find a party in-game so we made a new thing where you can handshake and form a party mid-match"

They're reversing course AGAIN and spending effort and time on making a new matchmaking.... to replace the old one that they said wasnt necessary?

I hate them.

[loud creek]

you know what I thought to troll norms

ranger res build with campfire and first aid

i am the healer now

[woeful bluff]

Hmmmmm

Lol, surge kits for everyone!

[obtuse lantern]

this game has to have the wost player base ive ever seen

[loud creek]

ranger will be the first class to officially do it all

[misty blade]

"No new spells, yeah I know you casters havent gotten anything for years and Sorcerer has literally never gotten anything..... but we think Ranger needs to be able to explode you at range as well."

Theyre so fucking dumb bro.

they're actually SO stupid that I am having a hard time justifying continuing to support this unreal idiocy

[woeful bluff]

Like a ranger in bis can take you down to half hp if your squishy. Just imagine that with explosive shot

[leaden zinc]

Cinder is gone, still have Viola and more to giveaway! Doing +1add weapon DB right now 😄

[loud creek]

new season ranger:

If you wanna go healer, go res build with first aid and campfire
if you wanna melee, take spear and backstep
if u wanna range, take obv bow perks
if u wanna mage, take explosive arrow and drawback

[woeful bluff]

And I wonder if it does more damage to headshots

[honest cedar]

a lot of people are forgetting that "FULL DRAW" is really nice for dmg. But it also reduces the dmg with ppl who were constantly Snap shotting.

• So, yes, Ranger will have some nice damage

• But, all classes can't spam snap bows anymore and expect the same level of damage

• So this game can enjoy more Melee once again

[loud creek]

nah, if the warlord tournament is any indicator, if there are no damage tweaks for ranger, this game will still be range and ranger and kite and kiter

[misty blade]

Yeah, I think im done actually.

[loud creek]

it always has been for awhile tbh

melee is infinitely more fun but range is too strong in this game

[misty blade]

Until we get new spells, im out. Fuck this game, genuinely.

[honest cedar]

it clearly states that bows will require more draw for more damage now

• thus eliminating faster shots with the same dmg output (meaning faster shots do less dmg)

• it's just math

[misty blade]

Ima get the demigod rewards this season and then im just done for now.

[loud creek]

we will see the scaling when the notes come out