game-discussion

[brave mango]

the only real downside to plate armour is the weight and cost 😭

[meager kite]

i guess a stamina bar would balance it better in game then

[brave mango]

that's why a full army of Knights wasn't a thing, but until crossbows and guns became a thing Knights were almost unkillable in fights because of their armour

Its genuinely insane

[pliant valley]

yes u r

LUL

[brave mango]

[meager kite]

bro what was sdf thinking

[brave mango]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldbuilding/comments/4p03km/for_medieval_worldbuilders_common_misconceptions/

genuinely a good read; plate armour is insanely well crafted

[meager kite]

yeah nice post

[edgy sable]

Make heavy armor man take extra damage from lightning bolt

Unless he takes his shoes off, then he's grounded

Then he takes even MORE

[pliant valley]

19 minutes in Q waiting for ice caverns...There are too many servers and not enough players!!!

[brave mango]

I keep getting put into empty ass lobbies

whole of Maelstrom or forgotten castle with me and 1 other person

[pliant valley]

We don't need so many modes. Just make Arenas for pvp and PVE Dungeon crawl

open arena all week and have weekly or monthly leaderboards

The only problem is that Lowlife Thieves won't be able to kill someone and steal their things

so I don't really see a problem, LUL

i know all the map are there so it doesn't get stale, ppl want new content. but it's created less populated areas of the game by spreading out the few ppl left

31 min Q for ice caverns... in 30 minutes there hasn't been 2 other ppl that Q'd to group

at the same time atleast

[sturdy coral]

the auto fill doesn’t usually work unless you queue squire to riches

[pliant valley]

it works the way it's supposed to everywhere. it's just that other ppl aren't Qing for anyhting besides squire to riches or Forgotten castle

i can get a team within a couple minutes on forgotten ruins

[subtle heart]

Solos Boss piles need to have less pulls but way more loot compared to duos and trios pulls.

It doesn’t matter how good someone is at the game nobody can consistently loot the pile all the way in solos.

[pliant valley]

maybe not every loot pile in the map

[subtle heart]

Especially as fighter, maybe if you’re a rogue you can but nobody is doing bosses on rogue

[pliant valley]

but u can totally loot a single pile

[subtle heart]

The whole like 6 pulls I believe it is? No way

[pliant valley]

100% i do it everyday

[cyan walrus]

in how many days is wipe

[pliant valley]

40

ish

[cyan walrus]

thanks

[subtle heart]

Norms or HR?

[dense pawn]

Arena solo queue is terrible. My team of randoms is matched up against a trio who ALL have 2 ranks higher than any of us. Their rank is so high I wouldn't even be able to team with one of them. Oh and that trio is running the double healer meta comp.

Meanwhile... over 50% of this wipe I can't play arena with friends because I'm either too high or too low in MMR. The 380 score diff BS is useless, it doesn't stop boosting and it makes arena objectively worse for a lot of people.

[uncut crag]

The 380 score thing is crazy annoying

[pliant valley]

i don't do norms very often it's either hr or adventure

[subtle heart]

In The forgotten Castle?

[pliant valley]

yes

u need more interaction spd

maybe

have u picked religion?

[quiet furnace]

anyone else getting strange FPS issues? My 1st launch every time; i get max 60fps and constant major fps crashes down to between 0 and 30... for a couple seconds. Then when i relaunch the game its back to normal at my 144fps cap permanently no drops. I dont know whats causing it but its only started happening after the last update.

[pliant valley]

yea i hear this a lot

[pure trout]

Am I the only one being terrorised by sorc in HR?

Just got 2 tapped again by kuma thats basically viola too with glaciate while I'm in full bis

its not that fun when someone tps onto you and your already 70% hp just from the tp

[quiet furnace]

yeah but they decided thats the buff sorc needed

[pure trout]

Dude voidblade sorc was strong as it was now people use him with artifacts and get viola buffs for free on already broken weapons

[wispy warren]

Sp I havent played in awhile and im looking at videos and I see people blocking with a sorts of weapons can every weapon parry now or is it just a select few and im gussing daggers and small weapons like that wont be able to parry using common sense

[pure trout]

Like a trash kuma does 34 base and 15 magical + 3 extra magical damage + viola slow

[pure trout]

every weapon can parry except magical balls

they dont have a parry

[quiet furnace]

almost every weapon can parry. Shield, bows, windlass crossbows, magical ball can only block iirc (Casting equipment also cant block unless you set up spells to allow it)

[south copper]

if the boss is activated it should take 1 full minute to open a door to inside... this gameplay your game delivers is dogsheet

hey bro we are full kit torches off at the door jorking each other until the right moment to come inside the boss room, ohhhh yeaaaaa. so stupid man, the sheer number of times this is how it goes down

[quiet furnace]

Team kill queue penalty while doing PvE with a friend who is learning the game? lol

wtf just happened ahaha

[reef kettle]

not a soul in ice cavern norms 😔

[pliant valley]

not even in pve

[reef kettle]

maybe its just bc the times weird or smth

[pliant valley]

Did Everyone goto church?

[reef kettle]

ig

[pliant valley]

god save our souls

LUL

ppl r in HR Maelstrom

[reef kettle]

i am NOT running HR maelstrom

[pallid hemlock]

fundementally boof game

🇵 🇴 🇷 🇹 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇧 🇴 🇴 🇫

[hardy stump]

not everyone, british, french and germans are at mosque

[deep helm]

3 gold chests and 0 items above epic, 1 reinforced chest and a gold longbow, 1 dead dwarf and a gold tunic. Like wtf

[pallid hemlock]

yep. they nuke optimization every major patch, this is a known thing

[pliant valley]

=p

[untold cove]

anyone else game just lag out

[reef kettle]

tf are they feeding sorcs these days man

[tacit stream]

Anyone else ever see a red rectangle with two circles symbol appear in lobby screen that fades away after a brief moment? First time ever seeing that

[hollow elbow]

While I agree there are some fragile dudes in game, lot of people who say constructive criticism, usually talk like they have never interacted with another human

not sayin you did, just a statement

[restive lichen]

Hey SDF and Graysun, how about you dont let the banshee shoot her onehit ball and other magic projectiles through walls? HAHAHAHAHAH
Would be a good idea if you want to make money with your game I think 😄
@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[severe ridge]

Nobody is asking you to analize their gameplay, find teammates and play with them or dont be annoying like that bro..

thats ignorant and really self-centered bro. Focus on what you can improve on yourself and if you dont like your teammates find some to queue with.

[finite yoke]

Hey SDF and Graysun, how about you dont let the banshee shoot her onehit ball and other magic projectiles through walls? HAHAHAHAHAH
Would be a good idea if you want to make money with your game I think 😄
@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[ripe dagger]

coming back after a long period, how are we feeling about the state of the game

[compact urchin]

best ever

[grizzled meteor]

Poopoo

[compact urchin]

he didn't ask what you had for lunch

[grizzled meteor]

Hows sdf d taste

[compact urchin]

ask your dad

[graceful vessel]

Anyone know an up to date place to see a loot/module name map?

Everything on google is like. Years out of date lol

[compact urchin]

yea I found that too sadly, its cos of a lot of change and modules moving etc - best to ask here honestly and have lovely people of this or your class channel be your guides

[graceful vessel]

That's. Why I'm asking here lol

Trying to find mining/woodcutting spots on goblin caves and forgotten castle

[torn stratus]

WHy are people buying the basic gold bags on marketplace?

[cinder oxide]

Is there a site with all the game data that’s actually up to date? The wiki is not

[vagrant zinc]

Hi I'm RadGigaChad here to request toggle crouch and "firing range" map for testing builds and gear

[gaunt hearth]

what is lf2?

[sharp bramble]

NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!!

[hollow elbow]

sooo. whats the idea here?

[sharp bramble]

People are getting immortal with healing... Fire mastery doesn't make any difference, the Heal overcome the Damage

Warlocks doing 500 damage and 1000 healing

[hollow elbow]

no, i mean screaming it like a child at walmart throwing a fit

we cant change it

[sharp bramble]

Clerics doing 3000 healing

[sharp bramble]

exactly, someone would see this fucking rage

game is unbalanced

[hollow elbow]

nobody ever goes and gives the screaming child what it wants

and if you are raging at a video game, you might need a break

[sharp bramble]

you are giving attention to it, thats the objective

[hollow elbow]

yea, im more inclined to disagree with you

because of the way to bring it up

if you arent a reasonable person, why would anybody agree with you?

[sharp bramble]

why i'm not reasonable? lol

cant just leave a comment here?

NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!! NERF HEALING !!!

...

[hollow elbow]

because of the"rage"

you can do whatever

but, why listen to someone whos just mad and screaming?

[edgy grotto]

i cant que into a match because i team killed someone by accident in arena...

[floral onyx]

ranger on east water map using walls and auto aim - rizztartad

[violet ivy]

What did they do to colossus

[hot beacon]

we need a way to see how they calculate how much rank points u get in arena per match

im top blue and just went 8-0 against 3 bottom purps and it gave me +16 rating

[spark blade]

can anyone else get more than 70 fps?

[wraith wigeon]

We got quivers before gta 6?

[brave mango]

Sure are a lottttta dead lobbies lmao

[cyan latch]

yo yo guys when season is ending ?

[wraith wigeon]

When is the game going GA?

[upper scaffold]

so i was in adventure mode with my arena kit to test damage on the dummies and I just left instead of extracting... did i just brick my stuff

[buoyant lance]

can i report players for teaming here somehow? i have all their names

i have no video tho, can't run recording

[weary magnet]

Only time I got people banned for teaming was when I sent in a video

And it has to be high roller

[vestal forge]

does anyone know the drop rates for tear of the volcano in norms and HR?

[fair topaz]

What are the top fighters using as primary weapon in arena right now?

[pliant valley]

what do you consider teaming? Is it team killing players or team killing bosses or both?

[vague quest]

5% norms, 10% hr
i might be wrong

[weary magnet]

im not too sure but when i get jumped by people in solo high roller i report them

[pliant valley]

yea, i consider that team, but not so much if they're killing a boss together

[weary magnet]

depends on if its high roller or not if its high roller and they dont fight after killing the boss its teaming imo

[restive lichen]

Nerf ranger and rogue, its unplayable

[pliant valley]

nah, if neither ppl want to pvp, there shouldn't be a punishment for it, bc no one is suffering any type of loss from mutually not wanting to fight

it's not affecting anyone

[weary magnet]

yea but them two taking on the boss effects the other people in the lobby

if one person sees both of them being friendly they might not wanna push them when they couldve won that fight

[pliant valley]

and what do the other people in the lobby gain from one person killing another and then leaving?

[pastel walrus]

When the fuck are we gonna get a new class, we need monk and paladin

[weary magnet]

if you wanna be friends with people run duos or trios with them or play normals not high roller

[quasi plover]

optimization is at an all time low

[weary magnet]

monk next season?

[pastel walrus]

I hope so

[pliant valley]

high roller shouldn't offer better loot then

[weary magnet]

no

ur just wrong

[pliant valley]

it's just an attempt to get ppl to do what you want vs what they want

[weary magnet]

just dont team with ppl

shits weird

[pastel walrus]

Yeah no teaming just means no teaming, you can both run away

Just don’t group up on other people

[weary magnet]

or bosses

[pliant valley]

it's ok, our opinions differ.

[pastel walrus]

Ehh I think grouping bosses is okay if you death match after

[weary magnet]

i mean yeah if you death match forsure

[pliant valley]

i feel like the player base has dropped mostly in part to imbalancing and the fact that more ppl like this game for the pve aspect than ppl for pvp

[pastel walrus]

That’s what adventure mode is for

[pliant valley]

adventure mode shouldn't be punished with shit loot

[weary magnet]

yes it should

[pastel walrus]

I mean it makes sense that the best loot would come from hr

[weary magnet]

more people dont like this game for pve then pvp thats just what you think

[pliant valley]

bro, the number fell from over 50k to less than 10k

[weary magnet]

so

[pliant valley]

Most players are in PVE adventure mode

[pastel walrus]

That’s from when sdf was on crack and kept making the worst decisions

[pliant valley]

that's evidence that there are more pve players than pvp

[weary magnet]

no it isnt

lmao

[pastel walrus]

PvP is where I have the most fun

[weary magnet]

most players are not in pve adventure mode

[pliant valley]

yea it is, u just refuse to admit it

[weary magnet]

thats propaganda fake news

proof?

[pastel walrus]

Bro if you don’t like PvP just play adventure

[pliant valley]

go watch the Q time in all of the modes and tell me again, where everyone is

[pastel walrus]

wtf do you even need the best loot for if you’re playing adventure

Ain’t no damn point in having full bis and a fulgor if you’re gonna fight mobs the whole time

[pliant valley]

not everyone is like u....

infact the majority of ppl r not like you

[pastel walrus]

Just saying why would you need uniques and artifacts if you aren’t PvP

[pliant valley]

it's makes it easier

same as it does for pvp

[weary magnet]

you're just wrong

[pastel walrus]

Brother the PvE is already easy

I get it

I use to not like PvP

But then I got better at the game

[pliant valley]

i'm not against pvp

i'm against imposing penalties for not doing pvp

[weary magnet]

why should the easier mode get the same rewards as the harder mode

more risk = more reward

[pastel walrus]

You don’t have to PvP in hr anyways

Just play Druid

And run away

[weary magnet]

pve should have its own server if you want the same rewards

[pliant valley]

that line "more risk = more reward" basically states. I want to kill newbs bc i can't kill the other guys

[weary magnet]

shouldn't be the economy

[weary magnet]

you seem delusional, not tryna be mean or offensive but dude

[pastel walrus]

Actually more risk more rewards means I want to fight the guys with the best gear so I can get it

[weary magnet]

no

thats not what im saying

if i have to risk my gear against lobbies with people who are much more geared or undergeared i should have a chance at great rewards

[pastel walrus]

Plus now you have workshops so you don’t even need to play hr to get uniques

[pliant valley]

i don't think i am being delusional. I am not the ones trying to agrue against something that the majority of players want, just bc i want try and get easier kills

[weary magnet]

you are delusional thinking you are speaking for the majority

if anything its probably the minoirty

[pastel walrus]

You can get uniques without Ever stepping foot in PvP now,

[weary magnet]

Pve mode shouldn't even be in the game tbh

[pastel walrus]

Or just player market to buy artifacts

[weary magnet]

this is facts btw

[edgy sable]

PvE shouldnt be in the game but you should be encouraged to actually team up in the dungeon.

[weary magnet]

unfair advantage

[pliant valley]

ur right pve mode shouldn't be in the game. then this wouldn't even be an issue and i never would've gotten the game and it would most likely have even less players, probably even died by now

[weary magnet]

just because you run into a group willing to team up with people before another group you can easily 6v3

how is that fun or fair

[edgy sable]

Imagine if you COULD kill anyone , sand box game, dayz / rust style. but you opt for friendly encounters usually because (spoilers thats how humans operate)

[pliant valley]

i never said teaming against other players was ok

[pastel walrus]

You team up with your trio

That’s how humans operate

[pliant valley]

and when none of ur friends want to play and you cannot find randoms because the game is on it's last leg?

[pastel walrus]

Omg the game is so dead! Like why are queue times 15 seconds!!!

The game isn’t fucking dead

[edgy sable]

The 'everyone must be fighting in the dungeon' because that's what makes the game fun, is failed take by the devs and they failed to even continue just fighting in the dungeon fun

[weary magnet]

its a niche hardcore game

wasnt ever suppose to be mainstream like cod

[pastel walrus]

There’s literally 9k players on right now

[weary magnet]

or free games like cs2

[pliant valley]

there are two modes where Q time is less than 5-10 min if u even get a team.

[weary magnet]

i get instant lobbies on na east

[sturdy coral]

there is one mode where your queue time is less than 30s for most of the day lol

[weary magnet]

in almost any mode

[pliant valley]

squire to riches and forgotten castle in pve

[pastel walrus]

I’ve never had to wait more than 3 minutes

[weary magnet]

i almost never have to wait more than a minute lol

[sturdy coral]

i am sick of having to use squire to riches as team finder tho, lemme get that lfg tool plz

[pliant valley]

u guys r just being obtuse, stfu. i got better things to do with my time than waste anymore with you

[weary magnet]

Makes sense PvE is dead tho

[pliant valley]

tanner ur oblivious to reality

[weary magnet]

lmao take that L boy you knew you were wrong from the start

[pastel walrus]

Uh oh buddy lost the argument and now he is calling us stupid and not worth his time

Deflect deflect deflect

[weary magnet]

"majority of the players like pve over pvp" thats when i knew

[sturdy coral]

obliviose

[edgy sable]

squires to riches just feels like some mindless zombie simulator because all that happens every game is a battle royal death match that is 3rd party after 3rd party, until only one team remains and guess what they earned? Nothing! Because it's squire to riches and no one looted anything!

[pastel walrus]

Bro must be a god tier longsword player the way he parries every counterpoint with braindead efficiency

[edgy sable]

I like the concept of squires to riches but it suffers from 'lets just fight endlessly'

[sturdy coral]

sounds like your teammates are buns tbh

[weary magnet]

that's why its in battle mode right next to arena lol

[edgy sable]

Of course they are, try queueing some randoms, the guy will run in and die 1v3 and then voip how you didn't die with them LUL

[pastel walrus]

Squires to riches is like practice PvP honestly

[sturdy coral]

which happens often. then I get the round with 2 demons and we wipe 1st layer and loot for free for last 5 min

[pastel walrus]

Its arena for brokies

And I like it that way

[weary magnet]

i use arena for practice pvp and i love it

[sturdy coral]

it's just good clean playtest era fun

the best is when you can get your squire squad to go down a layer

then pvp in for ghost king or something

[edgy sable]

Heard thats a myth, if you go down a level you are default in your own lobby cause everyone is death matching level 1

[sturdy coral]

well somebody's gotta be left standing

[weary magnet]

took you long enough to fix that buddy

[edgy sable]

Maybe in squire to riches the chests should instantly pop open and throw items on the ground so we can speed up the play

[weary magnet]

but no i dont think i am

i think im being quite reasonable

[reef onyx]

What I play % wise: normals 45% HR 25% Arena 23% StR 5% PVE 2%

[short burrow]

where to get rings and necklaces?

[paper mulch]

Anyone know what affinity you unlock crafting for cobalt regal gambeson from the tailor?

It says 50 on the wiki but I’m at 50

Nowhere in sight

Nevermind it just popped up for whatever reason?

[wispy warren]

what are cracked husks for?

[finite yoke]

Bro too impatient to wait for a merchant refresh

[wispy warren]

and core of cinder

[open oasis]

yo how can we tell what kind of arena itll be next time it opens?

[reef kettle]

did they nerf trinket droprates?

[edgy sable]

Depends how long ago you played, used to get more from a pile

[reef kettle]

i've killed a few dozen mummys and flying skulls and i haven't gotten a single trinket

i used to get 1 every other flying skull

[sturdy coral]

they don’t usually change it mid season, it’ll be epic no-ssf rest of the time pretty sure

[open oasis]

imma take your word for it and swap to cleric for next time then ❤️

[ashen willow]

yo

[sturdy coral]

wassup

[small zealot]

can you spell predate a hydra? like for stacks

[sturdy coral]

no pretty sure they changed predation a little while ago to only work on enemy

[gloomy gale]

i dont get how arenas is even remotely balanced. facing streamers 500 rating higher than you 3 stacked while your solo is just dumb af

[clear pendant]

is game laggy???

[wary fox]

fuck man if I die on adventure mode am I losing the kit?

Think I just goofed lol

[coarse sequoia]

no

you get it back

[blissful violet]

Goblin merchant should give it back, right?

[coarse sequoia]

after the match is over, yes

[blissful violet]

that reminds me of the soulscraper barb i poopied on in ice abyss, only for him to jump off map to avoid me killing and looting him.

[thorny forge]

gold

[coarse sequoia]

i just wish they would fix the nearly 100% cheater encounter rate in HR

barbs with weapon out faster than you (310ms)

no shouts, no nothing. just insane move speed with a two hander out

[blissful violet]

Im not a huge hr player cuz im just bad even after 2k hours

[clear pendant]

my merchants are laggy, in game i cant hear sometimes curse of pain / zaps or even some spells dissappear before hitting, nobody is having these issues?

[gloomy gale]

games just been laggy in general, really bad on ranger too. messes with your shot timing and you miss way more

[thorny cape]

is it better to get magic damage bonus % or magic power

[spare quarry]

anyone know how to get requiem of the fairy?

[vague quest]

craft it

[vague quest]

depends on how much mpower you have

[thorny cape]

is there like a range of mp where it becomes better to build magic damage bonus instead?

[vague quest]

idk the numbers

[floral onyx]

does demon lock E scale off magic healing?

[elfin veldt]

Guys, is it true that if I leave the Spectral Night arena, his health resets?

[cinder oxide]

how do you get a cracked log

[coarse sequoia]

if you leave any boss area it completely resets everything

including health

[elfin veldt]

thanks

[vague quest]

yes

[vague quest]

besides for soul-stealing stacks, like with lich and warlord when a player dies

those dont reset

[brave kelp]

does anyone know how to counter wizard

nothing me and my duo do works

wizard is just so broken rn '

[turbid bough]

they gotta rebalance whe wyvern 😭

[sonic maple]

Longbow

[brave kelp]

not when my ranger has 160 hp and he 2 taps me from 10 miles away with explosion

[tame oxide]

4 taps from 8 meters. ftfy

[faint talon]

is mark and market safe

[strong fox]

QUESTION: Can we pull any named item from any map in Key Pile Room? So for example could i pull a Pestilence on Water Map?

[tacit tangle]

Can we get rid of the treasure room map from the arenas. It is biased map. Melee only map. Melee classes have a significant advantage on that map. It is not a balanced map. It is a c,a,n,c,e,r map for range players.

I just got 3 range on that map vs 3 melee. instant 3:0 loss.

[strong fox]

Thats why some maps favor Melee and some favor Range to make it more balanced. you just got a bad pull ggs

[tacit tangle]

Than just put map in the map pool that are balanced for all classes not just a heavy biased for specific classes. That is just dumb design by default.

[strong fox]

Kite better

[tacit tangle]

you kite a flank.

[urban sierra]

oh no! one single arena module is not ranged only! remove it quick!

[torn shore]

How come mobs just dont go back deadass got gangbanged by a wrait and a beserker that shouldnt have been there in the first place like are we deadass

[cinder oxide]

most maps work well for ranged, just have to kite correctly
some maps work better for melee, they are just more balanced
I think the most balanced map is the ruins square module (the one with the golem/worm down in the elevator ore room)

[daring reef]

maze

[lilac cloud]

How do you parry with staff instead of casting

[vague quest]

yes, its pretty inaccurate and buggy tho

[vagrant zinc]

Hi I'm RadGigaChad here to request toggle crouch and "firing range" map for testing builds and gear
Iron Mace I'm giving you 3 hours

[vague quest]

if you want to test your build just go PvE

[solid swan]

Anyone know where the chapel module is located in forgotten castle?

Struggling to find it for alchemist quest

[vague quest]

2nd floor

[solid swan]

Ty ty

[vague quest]

#wizard message

[sonic maple]

Render distance

[severe ridge]

barb super dead, made a rework nerf all the reworked abilities and then nerf the old ones. all we can play is bardiche with headshotdmg bonus now its super cringe

[valid moth]

whats the most broken class rn?

[vague quest]

barb solos, wizard trios

[valid moth]

and duos whats ur opionon?

[dense berry]

Once again, reminding everyone that if you enjoy killing other players in this game it's because you lack control in your own life and compensate for that by purposely making other people miserable rather than minding your own god damned business.

[valid moth]

You must be a bot 😭

i swear they added a pve mode no ?

[dense berry]

No, I'm fed up with being killed in the dungeons and not having a way to punish them for it

it's just very aggravating that I have to let other people go about the rest of their life having inflicted this on me

[valid moth]

pretty sure its left click to fight back

[dense berry]

Don't care. I hate anyone who beats me.

[valid moth]

i feel you fr

[subtle heart]

I feel like I’m finally starting to make progress in this game and it’s all thanks to solos , playing trios was holding me back fr, it was a big crutch.

[dense berry]

if goblin merchant went back to returning our gear with near-perfect reliability it might not be such a bother to die to tryhard losers who substitute success in life for making random people miserable in a video game.

[subtle heart]

OOR they’re trying to get better gear by killing other players, and get a rush out of the tension of losing your gear.

[dense berry]

But no, instead I have to consistently lose well gemmed gear sets 12 times a day to barbarians with 55 iq's

[tribal comet]

Anyone else crashing to desktop at the end of matches?

[subtle heart]

Sounds like you just don’t know how the game works, especially if you’re complaining about not getting your stuff back from the goblin merchant.

[dense berry]

I want back every single piece of gear I've lost over the past 2 years.

I know quite well how the game works and the more I keep losing to clearly less skilled players crutching on meta classes the more I hope the whole damn thing gets shut down permanently.

[subtle heart]

[subtle heart]

If you don’t want to lose it just play pve I’m sure you won’t be haunted by the big bad Barb there

[dense berry]

I think you're missing my point. I don't want to play pve. I want to be left alone in pvp until I want to pvp, and I will only want to pvp when I am guaranteed to win the engagement.

[wraith robin]

Will never happen

[subtle heart]

Use the surrender emote and beg in vc like the dog u are then.

[dense berry]

Beg? Absolutely not. They get heinous words for their crime of offending me.

[subtle heart]

the entitlement of your generation is insane

[finite yoke]

🎣

[sterile ridge]

Please keep it polite

[subtle heart]

[worn latch]

🤤

[subtle heart]

🪠

Imagine the face is facing the other way

[noble verge]

Name checks out

[finite yoke]

Bro got baited so hard it was hilarious

[dark merlin]

When is next wipe?

[edgy sable]

And the advantage cant be that the other guy voiped to someone and now they have teamed up amirite!

I want a fair fight, in which I get to third party the other 2 people fighting and my gear is better than theirs so my stats are superior!

[golden pebble]

when is wipe

[dense berry]

Especially considering I am playing druid. Spontaneous teaming against me is half of all my encounters.

Because this community is indeed that cringe

I can run into two people actively fighting each other and they'll just stop to come after me

[golden pebble]

we the druids dont claim him as one of our own

[edgy sable]

Imagine the druid is in a room of 'normal' people and they are wearing a fur suit saying ; "He's not like us other druids!"

[dense berry]

How welcoming of you

[edgy sable]

Barb in his shirtless leather pants and cleric in his armor look over at the guy dressed up as a cat with a bell on his neck

[cloud inlet]

WHEN IS THE NEXT WIPE

[patent breach]

Never

[violet ivy]

if all goblin merchant quests are done does he give everything back?

[indigo valve]

because druids r known to be scummy rats

they want a fair fat not a rat druid 3rd partying right after

[dark glen]

how does Will help the Fighter?

[lean gust]

LFG for Z2H HR run. Please read carefully since apparently that’s difficult for most of you.
I’m not here to babysit or “learn together.” If you don’t have hundreds of hours, actual game sense, and the ability to not fold the second something goes wrong, just scroll. Seriously. Save us both the time.
Requirements:
Know every room, every spawn, every sound cue
Don’t ask obvious questions mid-run
No panic looting like it’s your first dungeon ever
Comms that aren’t just heavy breathing and confusion
If you say “my bad” more than once per run, you’re out
Bonus points if you actually understand positioning and don’t need your hand held every fight.
I’m running clean, efficient, no-nonsense clears. If your idea of “high roller” is dying with full inventory because you got greedy, this is not the group for you.
Drop your hours and class below. If I have to ask, you’re already not getting invited

[edgy void]

this gotta be satire

[indigo valve]

lmao

every room every spawn lmfao

[coarse sequoia]

wtf are these hacks/glitches people are doing? i literally just watched someone walk through a closed door a solid 6 or 7 seconds after it closed

walked through it like it wasnt there

[lean gust]

we arent playing around anymore. we are here for the big leagues

[modern niche]

Any point keeping unique trinkets? Used for any quest or anything else?

[brittle barn]

Crazy suggestion, really out there I know- What if you couldn't turn lights off in Arena?

Tired of matches ruined by ESPers who turn the lights off and fight in the dark able to see perfectly

[nova jetty]

Unfortunately you don’t need ESP to do that. Just a reshader

[green musk]

Do you have potions on your belt?

[brittle barn]

No of course not

Intentionally wasnt doing anything to light me up

[green musk]

I see rogues turn lights off a lot and running no pots on their belt

[mortal talon]

remove water map from s2r rotation

[azure tinsel]

does every pile have a chance to drop named in hr?

even like the normal piles on crypts and stuff?

[silent chasm]

im so confused abt this community, everyone that ive met and talked to abt dark is chill af and it seems like everyone that is playing this game is passionate abt it, but the majority of people i run into are toxic and are contributing to this game dying, like the full kitted people chasing down kids in squire gear trying to run away when i go in vc and tell them im new and have nothing

[silent spruce]

if i have a hand crossbow and a dagger in the same hands does thrust works on the crossbow

[silent chasm]

just seems like people that play this game want it to die even more

[sonic maple]

its the law of the land

[green musk]

there's a pve mode if you dont want to die to other players

if you're in a pvp mode, dont be upset about dying to people /shrug/

[silent chasm]

idc as much abt dying, but its the fact that people are such fun sponges

it just makes the game way worse

[green musk]

you're being a sponge to their fun by crying in voip

voip should be gone tbh

[dense berry]

dying would be fine if no gear was lost

[silent chasm]

i like the gear being lost

it makes the game

[viral kayak]

this argument is void if you can fucking turn it off

[silent spruce]

i had a guy complain i didnt wanna vc earlier

[silent chasm]

but people that are obv in bis kit vs people that are new and trying to learn and they clearly have nothing just let them run away imo

[silent spruce]

baffling on how someone cant understand i dont want to talk in voice chat

[silent chasm]

theres no satisfaction in being bis kitted and killing a squire gear

with lit nothing

like how do people get dopamine of thatr

[dense berry]

too many specifically source their primary enjoyment from being the one doing the beating in this scenario. Definitely a sign of insecurity.

that's what most live for

[silent chasm]

FR

[green musk]

no you actually buffed my argument, he's crying people are chasing him while he voips he's new, they have voip off

[dense berry]

that's why the game deserves to die, to take this away from those people

[silent chasm]

frl there is no way that people deadass have fun doing that

[viral kayak]

how can he be a sponge if the hear nuffin, duh

Bro is sayin shit

[green musk]

so ur here for the dude crying about dying in a pvp game?

[viral kayak]

You just be sayin shit fr

[green musk]

when I have a lot of valuables on me I voip that I'm new and in squire gear

[dense berry]

and then they chase you even more, because the game is built around griefing

[silent chasm]

u can obv tell when someones new

frl

[green musk]

no bc you dont know what somoene has on them until they're dead

im in squire gear with rusty/golden keys all the time

rat shit

[green musk]

but you can't tell what they have in their inventory

[silent chasm]

my point is that the community is so toxic to the point of it driving new players awaay

[green musk]

the game about collecting loot by killing people/mobs is supposed to be played the way you're complaining about

[silent chasm]

not fully

[green musk]

no you're soft

there is a PVE mode

lots of people in there

mental is weak

get gud

[silent chasm]

i just realized, ur the exact problem

like the exact one

[green musk]

I'm being what you're looking for

[silent chasm]

u cant play a game for fun

it has to be abt ruining peoples drive to play

[green musk]

I totally play the game for fun, but my version of fun involves PVP

You don't like PVP

so go play PVE

What's so hard to understand about that

[silent chasm]

i love pvp only when its fair

[green musk]

Then play SQR

SQUIERS TO RICHES

sp

Or play arena's in fully built epic gear

[silent chasm]

i just dont get how killing someone in squire gear is fun when ur kitted

[green musk]

They're doing it to get your loot

[silent spruce]

squire to riches is cool but the zone is obnoxious ngl

[silent chasm]

arena is ass bc u cant lose anything, and people play braindead

[green musk]

I've killed fully kitted people in squire gear, if you don't kill people when you see them, they stab you in the back when you turn around.

The rogue crouching at the ranger saying he's friendly is def not going to kill him when he gets close

He would neverrrr

If you don't want PVP, play pve, if you dont want to die to people kitted, kit up, if you dont want to die to team ups, team up.

You're the toxic one here bud, sorry to break it to you.

[warped inlet]

is barbarian any good for bossing?

[viral kayak]

yeah

[hasty tiger]

Kinda. Barb sustain isnt great but it's hard to get 1 shot on him due to big HP. Felling axe has great DPS but terrible spacing. Blood sacrifice is a niche ability, but can make PvE trivial if you are constantly hitting something.

[viral kayak]

on wyvern hes nice

getting there is also easy if you fuck up doors

[warped inlet]

i guess warlock is the better option right

[hasty tiger]

safer for sure, especially if you can use the 40% undead/demon damage reduction perk, but much lower dps

[silent spruce]

the more i play this game the more im wondering how im supposed to do anything

if i try to play i immediatly get mauled by someone with a kit

and if i try to get a kit i get teamed on or die from someone with 80x my playtime or a build that completely counters me

it feels so miserable

[kindred notch]

bardiches are still axes right

[silent spruce]

this is like the 5th match in a row i immediatly get rammed over by a druid because they can just hold w at you with panther if they have a kit and you dont

[green musk]

play a rat build

[silent spruce]

i did that a few hours ago and i ended up getting 2v1ed

[green musk]

rats run

[silent spruce]

i got cornered by 2 ppl

so like

mostly just being unlucky at this point

i dont know how ppl manage to have kits this often ngl

[dense berry]

Full kitted druids are same power level as any other class in squire gear

[silent spruce]

95% of the ppl i see are fully geared with rings and cobalt as well most of the time

even have prot pots and everything

god i wish there was solo squire to riches or sometime

[hasty tiger]

jewelry was made WAY easier to craft in the recent patch so lower rarity jewelry is more common now in normals

[silent spruce]

its still really annoying to get

for me atleast

[warped inlet]

barb has more dps than warlock?

[hasty tiger]

felling axe stops on the first enemy hit instead of cleaving like other weapons so if you hit your attack you can rapidly start another swing. Highest DPS weapon in the game due to that niche, but it has short range and if you miss the recovery time is slow

[honest cedar]

Honestly asking...
did the nerf's to barb actually do anything?

[silent spruce]

somewhat

the class is still stupid strong but atleast some of the perks feel more balanced

[sonic maple]

yes adding a use by time to reckless did something

[silent spruce]

duration on achiles and reckless feels nicer to play against

[honest cedar]

sounds good

[hasty tiger]

you can get green/blue jewelry super easy from arcane essence, knowing what drops that can be big. Mummies on default map and small animals like baby turtles on water map are good examples if you dont want to buy it

green jewelry doesnt even take other materials to make

[warped inlet]

should i just be playing barb over warlock for now? im doing pve for now so yea

[hasty tiger]

barb would probably be better for the non undead/demon maps if you just wanna pve. I'd recommend having a long range melee weapon paired with the short range felling axe. heavily recommend blood sacrifice for pve.

most 2 handed weapons also have easier block hitboxes to use

[alpine wing]

can you find a frozen iron key in ice caves?

like not in abyss

the first floor

[mild crag]

Im so glad and surprised they managed to turn this game around for the better in almost every way possible from last i was playing, also the much needed druid nerf as much as i disliked seeing it upon return because i did love it too lol

[mild crag]

Not to my knowledge its like a 1/4 chance out of a coffer in the abyss though

[alpine wing]

is it not in gold chests?

[mild crag]

I think its source has been changed several times over the course of the game i remember when it used to drop from mini bosses instead

[green musk]

coffer/ornate/golden?

[warped inlet]

so in castle/crypts warlock would be the better choice?

[wispy warren]

havent played in awhile what are the viable classes?

[fervent anvil]

all of em work when you play them well

[quiet stump]

Boc warlock, ranger, fighter and Druid I think personally

[warped inlet]

what would you say are some of the funnest classes to play?

[sonic maple]

Goblin

[stuck obsidian]

Îs the crystal sword fighter build still a thing?

[stark summit]

sorcerer is pretty fun. A lot of ways you can play and you don't have to rest for spells like wiz

[cinder oxide]

what does a BIS wizard kit in arena look like

[cerulean mason]

how is this game so unoptimized that smooth motion aint helping 😭

[fervent anvil]

Depends on how you want to play. A good full caster set is very high magic dmg and spell casting speed with some magic pen and a good amount of vigor/tankyness

[fervent anvil]

Game runs perfectly fine for me

[warped inlet]

would you say sorc is hard getting adjusted to?

sorcerer lowk has no gear and its kind gear dependent from what ive seen

[cinder oxide]

yeah just want to see what some player's maxed out kits look like

[fervent anvil]

I dont currently have a maxed kit made yet. Try asking in thw wizard channel. Prob some there

[cerulean mason]

my game has tweaked out ever since i updated my bios but i messed with v-sync and i guess its helping

better than before at least

i dont wanna know what this game is doing when a weapon hits smth for the game to have fps drops tho

[warped inlet]

wats better in terms of pve? wiz or barb?

[fast hollow]

this is a gore server?

[cerulean mason]

??

[fast hollow]

thats what it showed me on google or some

[cerulean mason]

yeah no

[fast hollow]

oh

[cerulean mason]

why would you want to even search that in the first place

that is just weird

[fast hollow]

it is

but Im weird

and for whatever reason it comforts me

[sonic maple]

goblin roulette wen

[cerulean mason]

bro i think u need help 😭

[fast hollow]

I certanley do

[oak sun]

no shit

[dawn shell]

I'm new to the game, what race should I buy? I main bard and warlock

[dull vapor]

just spectated a poor druid who didnt know not to hit the pile in the sunken ship

[cerulean mason]

races dont make too much of a difference go with what u want

[dull vapor]

poor guy got assassinated by a rogue

[oak sun]

just play without a race rn

races are practically just cosmetic with a tiny buff/debuff

other then dwarf

[stark summit]

yeah but that makes it new/fun/interesting. Also gear is easy to get quick you can kill mobs pretty easily even in HR

[full wagon]

I fell in a module called "Blindfall Pit" but i can't find an exit. Found a lever in the walls (2 really, one broken and other worked) and now could leave. There is many thanos and other mobs, but not reward for killing them :( (it was fun)

[indigo ginkgo]

?? I have a few looted coin bags in my inventory, but coins do not go into them when I shift coins from Inventory to stash tab. I assume it's because their status is looted. What should I do with them?

[hoary bluff]

is there rank decay at all, or can i retire a character after getting demigod III and play other ones?

[wraith robin]

Lol i 3 shot 60%+ pdr gihter with my rogue, this game is so unbalance lol

[dull vapor]

dog dwarf fighter chasing me while i attack the shark

[indigo ginkgo]

Maybe he was low on life to start with

[wraith robin]

i kill thhem all 3-4 hits

They cant even react

[dense berry]

Ah yes, truly balanced game. Fully kitted druid loses to lv 1 barbarian in squire gear. Make it make sense.

Oh I know why, because you all spent 2 years crying about druid because you couldn't handle challenge and wanted wins served on a platter. So now my favorite class is a shallow husk of what it used to be and none of you are even happy still.

In no proper world should a lv 1 barbarian in squire gear beat a druid in full blues in normals.

I blame each and every one of you for this.

[mental garden]

I'm curious in general, like #1, no trash barbarian should be winning to that (they win no matter what, almost 100% of the time). I just landed 5 (maybe 6) full body fireballs, 3 explosions, 1 chain lightning, 3 lighting strikes, etc, I think the magic resist needs to go or we're all going to stop playing

[azure kernel]

you not gonna like what i am about to tell you

[dense berry]

Likely some variation of "get good", based on this community

[azure kernel]

exactly

[dense berry]

Basically, you think what I described is a balanced situation. Which likely means you just hate druid and receive pleasure from seeing the class suffer.

[mental garden]

Unfortunately, you probably failed school if that's the case. I'm sure the math here is disgustingly leaning towards barbarian winning.

[azure kernel]

no, I just think you are not as skillful as you think

[azure kernel]

whoa what's with the personal attack dawg <@&988703997378584596>

[dense berry]

I never proclaimed to be skillful.

[unborn hamlet]

Massive skill issue

[dense berry]

But please, keep on being nasty, by all means. It suits this community well.

[azure kernel]

see limit understands

[unborn hamlet]

Hate to break it to ya bud, you’re just awful at the game

[dense berry]

A fully blue kitted druid in normals should win on gear alone vs a lv 1 barbarian in squire

[unborn hamlet]

They should, but you’re really bad at the game :/

[azure kernel]

<@&988703997378584596> this guy really tryna be racist

[dense berry]

you don't need to be calling mods on this guy, I'm a grown man, petty words on the internet don't matter

he want to act like a child, that's his choice

[lethal badger]

relax each side please

❤️

[warped inlet]

what are some of the funnest classes to play?

[dense berry]

none

[lethal badger]

Michael too

I understand it's a tough situation

[dense berry]

the ones that win

that's the funnest

[unborn hamlet]

Druid is super op

You have to be really bad to lose with druid

[lethal badger]

I understand tension may be high

[dense berry]

dude, druid has been gutted, what are you even talking about

rogues can 4 tap a bear with a knife, explain that

[lethal badger]

but let's keep in respectful and mindful of each other

[unborn hamlet]

Skill issue

[tropic rain]

what map has more people?

[dense berry]

the math coded in the game is not a skill issue

now either respond constructively or don't at all

[unborn hamlet]

You being horrible at the game is absolutely a skill issue man, sorry

[sonic maple]

dont get headshot

[dense berry]

there is no skill in preventing being 4 tapped by a rogue as a bear

a rogue should not be able to do that either

now stop gatekeeping this unbalanced trash

[unborn hamlet]

This man tries fighting a rogue by sitting in bear form 🤣

Holy scrub

[tropic rain]

in what map can i find the most pvp action

[hexed root]

eh... learning curve is crazy.. not on him. gear and perk synergy is really important.. for a lot of folk... it is a knowledge issue.. not skill.. which is gate kept a lot.

[unborn hamlet]

Tis a hard game

[unborn hamlet]

Goblin caves

[tropic rain]

thanks, 1st or 2nd floor?

[hexed root]

i rarely meet folk on 2nd floor.

[unborn hamlet]

Yeah 1st is obviously going to have more players m8

[hexed root]

but what is not said.. there is alot of pvp on ruins and down... but wayyyy more pve inbetween.

[tropic rain]

I see, thanks a lot! lately i dont find ppl in 3rd floor of ruins, only in 1st floor

and not so many

[unborn hamlet]

Wym thanks a lot ?

You think this advice was free ?

PayPal me 100$ right now.

[tropic rain]

ahahaha

is it worth killing troll rn?

with ores being so expensive

[dull vapor]

all clerics are dogs, one just chased me off a boat. if you want to pvp go play arena

[indigo ginkgo]

It is alway worth it

[unborn hamlet]

Sure

[tropic rain]

most of the times i make more money by just gathering copper and iron

[unborn hamlet]

Kinda boring tho

[tropic rain]

yeah, that's the thing

troll can drop artifact right?

[tropic rain]

I did that only to build some economy, now I am just pvping bossing

[unborn hamlet]

In HR i think ?

Dunno

[sharp pendant]

havent played in a while, hows the state of the game?

[unborn hamlet]

Fine I guess

[warped inlet]

in your perspective what are the funnest?

[dense berry]

I only play druid. I would not be a good gauge of what's fun in this game.

[regal stream]

Fellas, how do we feel about the game ever since the new wipe? Are we back or are we still a long way from being good? I quit a wipe and a half ago

[cinder oxide]

how long is faithfulness cooldown

[cinder oxide]

🔥 👍 🫡 👆

[unborn hamlet]

People seem to be happy

[sharp pendant]

is there any steam linking? I held the line back in the day but having it in steam would be preferable

can I just DL via steam and then login with my iron mace account?

[unborn hamlet]

Prob

[obsidian shell]

SIGNIFICANT positive turnaround for the game, I went from barely playing at all last wipe to sinking 200 levels on two classes this wipe. The game feels much much better to play now, generally speaking, and the patches have been on an unusually tame trajectory. It's fun, I would certainly recommend Dark and Darker again, ESPECIALLY if this type of stuff continues

[regal stream]

Thanks for the answers fellas, nice to know the game will be in a much better spot when I return hopefully

[unborn hamlet]

Idk I think dungeonborne is gonna kill dark and darker

[woeful bluff]

Isnt the game shut down lol, like last year

[unborn hamlet]

It’s making a huge comeback, trust

[sharp pendant]

anyone know how to transfer from blacksmith to steam

[tough plume]

quick question

can you even get frozen key in the first level of ice caverns?

[dull vapor]

no idea

[tough plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jumpscare-arson-murder-freddy-five-night-fnaf-gif-21511269

[warped inlet]

is druid fun for you?

[dense berry]

Only when I win, which is rare because the class has been nerfed into the ground.

once upon a time druid was king, and all the plebs cried endlessly, it was truly the golden age

now even lv 1 barbarians in squire gear can beat them fully kitted

[warped inlet]

ah i see

[azure kernel]

nah bro

[agile ibex]

Anyone know of any video guides for dodging enemy attack in shipyard and firedeep?

[tropic rain]

I think it is pretty good rn, but population is a bit low

[regal stream]

If it stays consistent and keeps making good content, the players will return eventually@tropic rain

[tropic rain]

Gear balance is good, not too op, not too weak. Making money to build good kits is very fast. Classes are not too unbalanced. There are still very hard match ups like rogue vs barb

[warped inlet]

what class is good for gold farm/pve (besides rogue and bard sick of these classes)?

[west wadi]

yeti

[west wadi]

which map?

[tropic rain]

Yeah, 100% ppl will come back if they release monk next wipe

[west wadi]

like gold ingots or gold in general

[warped inlet]

tbh all maps but i play castle most

[warped inlet]

gold ingeneral

[west wadi]

warlock with infernal pledge

just spam hellfire

[tropic rain]

Rogue with ressoursefulness kit and mine copper

[west wadi]

yea thats nnot good money tbh

[warped inlet]

rogue sucks imo cause its too squishy

[tropic rain]

also iron, make lockpicks, easy profit

[dull vapor]

devs spawning me in a underwater cave within aggro range of a shark????

[warped inlet]

i wanna play rogue badly butit sucks for pve and im more of a pve player

[regal stream]

@tropic rain the only thing I want in the game is more perks and skills for classes I play which are bard, cleric, and fighter. More ways to play always make the game more fun

[tropic rain]

But if u just want to make money, you go invis smoke pot build with all stealth perks, just skip the rooms, kill a few goblins, take the ores

[tropic rain]

That would also be cool, they sais they are reworking rogue, i am looking forward to that. Rogue is too weak atm.

[feral karma]

Weak at what?

[tropic rain]

Only way to stand a chance is jumpscare a squishy class or bring full inventory of knives

[last spindle]

All I’m saying is spell merge being built into sorc was a good idea, now give us double jump on rogue for free

[tropic rain]

at pvp

[feral karma]

lmfao

[warped inlet]

whats not good money, rogue with resource kit?

[feral karma]

they can 3 tap pdr fighters.

[west wadi]

just mining copper

[west wadi]

they r some of the strongest at pvp...

[tropic rain]

I make roughly 6-7k every run in goblin hr with my ressoursefulness kit for the rogue, just mining

[last spindle]

#makeroguegreatagain

[tropic rain]

130 regular interaction speed

130%

[broken igloo]

I think they should remove full invis on rogue, make it like a predator effect and a hard to see shimmer. But remove the timer and make it unlimited while in crouched.
I think full invis is always going to feel bad to go against and having specific items or skills to counter it is lame.

[tropic rain]

Yeah, but it is very unconvinient, you need to have all your inventory full of throwing knives

[ancient ruin]

They already tried that, it was p useless

[unborn hamlet]

Rogue is the best solo class

[broken igloo]

When did they ever try that

[west wadi]

no... you dont..
I donnt runn a single throwing knife and i consistently kill everyone

[dense berry]

I have argued similar, predator-styled stealth would make a lot more sense

[tropic rain]

for me, the best solo class is sorcerer atm, only a good ranger or a very fast barbarian can beat it

[broken igloo]

I've been playing since release and I have never seen anything besides full invis

[ancient ruin]

Like a year ago or so. I think sometime near the multi class stuff. It was only for maybe a month

[west wadi]

youre lying cause rogue didnt always have full innvis

[ancient ruin]

^

[last spindle]

lol just make the invis visible and it’s fine

[tropic rain]

Man, how do you fight barbs with whirlwind=

?

[warped inlet]

is it just me or warlock is boring

[west wadi]

donnt get withinn whirlwind range?
bait it out and kill on third swing

[feral karma]

Then you haven't been playing very often, they did make invis have a shimmer.

[west wadi]

He is but u didnt ask for funn builds lmao

[warped inlet]

yeah can you give me a fun class to play 🙏

[broken igloo]

Not lying, could have missed a patch or two but I have never seen shimmer rogue

[tropic rain]

I guess then it's just a skillm issue, i am to bad to perform well at rogue, High skill ceiling XD

[unborn hamlet]

Sorc wizard ranger

[west wadi]

Fun and good at making money thats not bard or rogue and warlock is boring............
have u tried just playing the game whatever way u want?

[warped inlet]

i would play rogue trust me its just that its so squishy 😭

[last spindle]

Double jump should be free like spell merge and stealth and creep should be one perk #makeroguegreatagain

[west wadi]

you 3 tap....

[unborn hamlet]

Rogue doesn’t need buffs

[west wadi]

2 tap squishy people

[west wadi]

^

[last spindle]

Yes it does

[warped inlet]

should i play rogue then?

[west wadi]

Im tired of this argument to the point i made a squishy rogue kit and i consistently 1v3 in arena
its cancer

[warped inlet]

im more of a pve player tho and i dont think rogue is viable

[west wadi]

remove all armor pen perks from rogue and make DM action speed not pdb

[unborn hamlet]

Even repose admits rogue is strong

[unborn hamlet]

???

Everything is viable in PvE lol

[west wadi]

cant make this up

[last spindle]

Every class is strong if you can play the game

[unborn hamlet]

He says top 1 in solo

[west wadi]

I havent touched rogue before this season and I went from placements to 2700 rating in a couple hours

[warped inlet]

by just playing rogue?

[formal stone]

hi, I need help finding the treasure room and chapel; I'm lost.

[broken igloo]

So i did some looking and they only shimmered while moving for one patch briefly, but I think a rework is needed. Landmine rogue shouldnt be the only "good" build.

[west wadi]

rogue is incredibly good if u dont play like someone who licks windows and drinks clorax

[ancient ruin]

Im p bad at the game and got 2100 rating as rogue, they really arn't too weak

[unborn hamlet]

Might be the craziest thing I’ve ever read

[last spindle]

I mean try headshot/phys dmg barb and watch your rank climb

[tropic rain]

The problem is that playing rogue is very unforgiving, a little mistake and u probably dead

[west wadi]

I did. Its much harder pvp compared to hopping on rogue and 2 tapping everyone 1 by 1

[warped inlet]

the squishyness i was talking about

[tropic rain]

what build are u running @west wadi

[unborn hamlet]

Same goes for the people you’re fighting tho

[warped inlet]

it was either rogue or barb as a option for me

[unborn hamlet]

Glass cannon gonna glass cannon

[west wadi]

Im leaving this chat lmfao
u got this

[unborn hamlet]

You have the mobility to be quite safe

[unborn hamlet]

Lmfao

[broken igloo]

Rogue should be high risk high reward mobility, but their mobility should be the defining factor.

[warped inlet]

and god im not going to even touch ranger for pve that just sounds like a horror show

[unborn hamlet]

Ranger is super easy for PvE ..

[warped inlet]

yo it seems like your takes are quite questionable to everyone 😭

[unborn hamlet]

Brother what

[last spindle]

All I’m saying is double jump should be part of rogues base kit and stealth and creep should be one perk, while we are at it so should dagger mastery and thrust

[west wadi]

u r rage baitinng to the point im blocking

[warped inlet]

i think barb is the better option for pve

[broken igloo]

agreed to everything except dagger mastery and thrust. Only with rework to stealth.

[tropic rain]

Betrayer, are u running invi build or pure fighting

[unborn hamlet]

I have no clue why you would think Ranger would be bad for PvE. Nothing should ever touch you

It makes the already trivial PvE even more trivial

[warped inlet]

eh maybe your right, would you prefer barb or rogue for pve then?

[unborn hamlet]

If you’re new ? Probably Barb. But rogue is plenty good. Take a rapier if you’re having trouble

[ancient ruin]

Blood exchange barb is very forgiving for pve if you are learning.

Its how I learn bosses

[warped inlet]

im not new been playing for 6 months

yeah and im trying to start getting into bossing aswell

rogue for bossing just doesnt seem right

[unborn hamlet]

Brother I’m sorry but if you’re struggling with PvE you’re new

[warped inlet]

i wouldnt say im struggling im just bored of the meta and wanna find a fun but good class

[west wadi]

every single class can do pve if ur not new

the best classes for pve is sorc, warlock

[unborn hamlet]

My guy you said rogue wasn’t viable for PvE. Theres no such thing as “not viable” for PvE

PvE is incredibly trivial in this game

[rugged crag]

I enhanced a legendary lightfoot boot to unique and it gave me +0 dexterity ---- Bruhhh....

[ancient ruin]

Tell that to the ice imp in the arena map. Homie loves my ass when I'm mid fight lmfao (but I do agree)

[warped inlet]

i know i only said that cause when it comes to bossing rogue is a ant

[unborn hamlet]

Rogue is great at bossing

Your issue isn’t going to be classes, just gotta learn the boss animations and how to dodge each one

Rogue gives you some wiggle room because of their movement speed you have more time to react

Take a rapier

[warped inlet]

ah i see so the final question is whats more fun rogue or barb

[unborn hamlet]

Barb is the most boring class in the game imo

Rogues way more fun

[dull vapor]

going in with a kit worth tens of thousands, make sure to not kill rogues if you see any

[unborn hamlet]

Hunting you

[warped inlet]

is it cause its so easy

[unborn hamlet]

The gameplay is just very simple

[indigo ginkgo]

He can be outranged by Ranger, Wiz, Sorc, if they have space to run. In arena, not so much.

[unborn hamlet]

Okay the gameplay is still just boring

You just play door and doorer or corner and cornerer against ranged matchups. Run at them if they face check you and throw frannys

[south solstice]

when is wipe

didnt the announce it

[indigo ginkgo]

WHo cares, get in on FortNite new season!

[wind dew]

End of April I believe

[sonic maple]

Lmao 🤣 is being sarcastic who knows

Is that season #unc

[unborn hamlet]

🤨

[warped inlet]

alright so basically what your saying is just go rogue

[tough plume]

only from the yeti? not chests? nor skele champ?

[unborn hamlet]

Play whatever is fun for you dawg

Everyone enjoys different classes

[warped inlet]

ill try barb first and if im not feeling it ill go rogue then

cause warlock is actually so boring

[dull vapor]

dog barbarian tried to camp in the darkness like a rogue, almost got me

[dull vapor]

were you the barb?

or the obnoxious rogue who tried to chase me down?

[west wadi]

I would assume u technically could
But I don't play the map enough to say
But I've gotten it from yeti

[warped inlet]

hate to bother you once again but would you consider fighter more fun than barb

yo i just died consecutively playing as rogue, time to wrap it up 😭

[dull vapor]

???

how?

rogues are meant for outrunning your teammates, its how we survive

[warped inlet]

im more of a pve player and i guess im just not used to not doing any damage whatsoever and the squishyness

[cloud inlet]

WHEN IS THE NEXT WIPE

[warped inlet]

acutally rogue is lowk fire

just use rapier

[dull vapor]

i dont even bother to bring daggers

[void hinge]

hi

[warped inlet]

yeah bro 😭

[vestal moat]

@sand lance can we talk

[dull vapor]

slot 1 has rapier and crossbow for me

im either in pve or ive dropped my weapons and ran

[gritty sorrel]

Make a tank build for rogue and go stat chek people with double daggers, dagger mastery and thrust. Its very funny

Well funny until you get one tapped by 1000% pdb 100% ap barb

[warped inlet]

alrighty

[warped inlet]

😭 makes it sound like barb is the better option by a mile

[dull vapor]

if youre fighting a barb as rogue youve already lost

[velvet kayak]

Anybody from NAE region? we switched, since our servers were empty: Does your ''Squire to Riches'' mode does not include any other maps, but Ruins? Since we switched, there is NO ROTATION 😄 is NAE stuck on just Ruins map?

[gritty sorrel]

More of, expensive barb kits are LITERALLY IMMORTAL

[gritty sorrel]

Its not a bad map for S2R

[velvet kayak]

it's not about it being bad, but i love the rotation, i get sick of the same map 🙁

[gritty sorrel]

Ah fair

[tough plume]

i've opened like 20 gold chests with like 400 luck no key

lmao

7 yeti kills no key aswell

so i donno

[indigo valve]

Next month

[indigo valve]

I haven’t gotten it either

I think not

I think it’s only abyss

Just spam golden chests in abyss tbh

[dull vapor]

ran into a bug where a ship didnt load

[bitter shard]

Does blood exchange scale off of magical healing/physical healing or just based off max hp?

[warped inlet]

so your basically telling me to drop rogue and just go barb

[gritty sorrel]

Can you afford a trillion gold kit for em?

[gritty sorrel]

Dont quote me on this but I think its damage

[peak crane]

whats a good percentage for phys power on a barbarian for arenas? 31% seems low but im not sure

[tough plume]

doesnt really spawn in the abyss aswell

well ateast not a lot

[strong fox]

Does BladeHand drop leviathan? or just the shields?

[tough plume]

shields

[dawn shell]

where can I farm gems?

[deep ingot]

water map break barnicles

if u need legendary u can hit the clams up

[dawn shell]

that could work on pve as well right?

[deep ingot]

yeah but the loot is worse

go penguin and do it

[dawn shell]

so its better on norms?

[deep ingot]

better quality loot yh..

[dawn shell]

alright thankyou

[robust cloak]

Is cinder worth trading for??

I main warlock and have yet to try it. Not sure if I'm getting fleeced out here 🤔

[green musk]

is there a reason you're locked in pve until 8 minute mark?

I came for the wood and I'm realizing I have to sit around to leave

You can't get billets in norms as far as I've seen

7:47 i was wrong

[unborn hamlet]

You came for wood ?

Pause

[green musk]

I came for wood then I came from wood

[unborn hamlet]

[green musk]

Did they make all the same changes for PvE exit as they did for PvP?

That would seem silly

[fervent crow]

Whats the command to get my voice channel to pop up with the post?

[green musk]

Hashtag

[fervent crow]

ty

[green musk]

np

[fervent crow]

that didnt work lmao, could you give me an example?

[green musk]

#the-tavern

Ah might only work for text

Ah do #!

[fervent crow]

Very cool thank you

[shell owl]

can anyone help me to get a wechat account

[odd plinth]

Can't get into game!

[reef marlin]

whats going on

[brittle barn]

When the fuck are we fixing mob aggro tho?

Love having a warlock lead a train of mobs that all are cursed, and they just switch to me and hit me in the head even tho hes closer and damaging them..?

[severe ridge]

Barb almost unplayable, we rework the class then nerf all the reworked perks and spells untill they are unusable. Then nerf all the old builds also. All we are left with is bardiche with 40% headshot dmg now its super cringe. You gutted warmaul achilles, and reckless zwei. I can legit play only 1 barb build and have success please change some stuff. (pushing 10k hours, 5k on barb)

[edgy sable]

What does a magic power equal in magic damage bonus is it 1 = 1%

[brittle barn]

Also love how solo HRs is 99% naked rat rogues

[safe prawn]

facts

[brittle barn]

And a naked rogue just lured a nightmare minotaur into boss room while i was fighting it, hit invis, and walked out

Like dude why is this shit a thing

Love resetting boss cause of some naked rogue griefing

[oak sun]

its not only solo ngl

was playing regular trios and rogues just kept on trying to rat my fights

[brittle barn]

Shits killing what playerbase is left

LIke what ever happened to gear score requirements? Why is true invis a thing and why does it throw mob aggro? Why the fuck did we buff caltrops to the moon?

[gray urchin]

does warlock need a nerf?

[rain sun]

what would you nerf from warlock

[gray urchin]

reduce healing, and let them not have 3 stacks in demon form may be

[rain sun]

i could see that

[gray urchin]

and if i could i would also remove dark offering 😄 btw. is there a way for me to tell if dark offering from warlock is active?

[next rampart]

hi how long does loot stay in goblin merchant if ur teammate brings ur loot out of the dungeon for u

[green musk]

as a naked rat rogue, I just had 2 full kitted fighters chasing me around a lobby and got out with the loot, too bad they didn't fight each other

[brittle barn]

Good for you?

Miss when the high risk high reward mode required risk

[green musk]

You missed my point

Why try when you're just going to get teamed

[brittle barn]

I see teamers once like every 50 games. They're probably teaming on you cause they see you as an annoying rat rogue, so they want you dead before they fight eachother

[tribal zodiac]

Its always high risk for rogue, cuz Rogue gear is expensive asf and as Rogue you have to do shitload of effort to kill some person in copare to other classes.

[brittle barn]

We're talking ab naked rat rogues, not real rogues

[bitter mulch]

does anyone know how to improve the stability of the game? i get arround 170fps on random places but once ppl comes close and we are fighting i cant get over 70fps

[tribal zodiac]

I did both, naked 0-Demigod pickpocket and it was more fun than real rogue gameplay

[brittle barn]

Also rogue is plenty good rn. People who think rogue is bad are just coping

[tribal zodiac]

Its all about knowledge of boss/monsters tbh.
staaling boss is key, but ye,nightmare centaur is pain is ass:D

[brittle barn]

Can kill any class instantly in an ambush, and just throwing knife spam tanks if they get spotted first

[tribal zodiac]

Thats true if overgeared.

[brittle barn]

Its true if you're running purples+

[tribal zodiac]

or if its some paper class.

ye well purp vs lege/unique is nothing to compare.

sometimes even better cuz price

[brittle barn]

The wipe is nearly over and the economy has soooo much gear in it, any1 who can't afford gear is just bad

[tribal zodiac]

Im SSF enjoyer so, cant wait for wipe again 🙂

[brittle barn]

I cant wait for wipe cause Monk

thats gonna be the real cheap class, no weapon required

gonna be 30 of them ratting

[mental tulip]

Sorc is in a fun spot now 🤣

Feel like a bladesinger

[smoky jetty]

are test servers down?

[warm kraken]

why are you even on test server

[main lintel]

WHEN IS THE wipe

[hardy stump]

if you want solo PvE HR experience, you play on test server

[vagrant fulcrum]

#📢announcements message End of April

[muted pebble]

as far as i know no

[ashen heron]

guys can someone help mi with my game? i cant play on dx11 everytime when i change to dx11 my game crash and then i must force dx12 to open and normally play the game.

[hardy stump]

DX12 games don't work on DX11, you'd think this was obvious thing for people

[ashen heron]

but you can choose which you want to play? in game settings.
i have decent pc and i have fps problem on duos and trios and no matter what setings (high/low) i set i still got the same fps so i consider maybe dx11 is solution for my problem.

[hardy stump]

minimum reqs on website is DX12 tho

[ashen heron]

finally game run without crash on dx11 but even more shit perfomance on 11 xDD, so game is so shit even on rtx 5070 i will have problems with fps.

[fleet surge]

You must have some settings wrong or maybe its an internet issue? Do you have ethernrt cable connected?

Bc your pc shouldn't be having these issues otherwise with those specs

[hardy stump]

50xx series itself is shit, overpriced marketing stunt, if it can't get you fake frames, it performs on level below 30xx series

[fleet surge]

I mean i have a 2060 and runs perfect for me lol pc id 6 years old

[ashen heron]

yes i have, dont misunderstanding me i have good fps on solos like 150-220 but when i play duo or trio fps drops to like 100-140 but i feel so like my game is shuttering or somehting like that,dont fell smooth.

[ashen heron]

naah its good card, before 5070 i have 3060 and 4070 and 5070 is a lot better

[fleet surge]

Dam thats weird idk why it would change

[ashen heron]

its funny for me that i can switch from 2k to 1080p and all settings low and still fps is the same when 2k resolution and all settings are high

[muted pebble]

same thing with me and its on other games too like marathon it wil do that i dont understand

[ashen heron]

i have problem only with dark other games run perfectly good

[tribal zodiac]

its jsut fucked up

I also play all games 1440p ultra and Dark is just meh

[upbeat dawn]

been having fun on dark and darker love these new updates

[meager marsh]

is shield mastery bugged

[autumn crow]

if i die in pve with artifact do i get it back from the goblin?

[wise turret]

The amount of esp hackers on oceanic server from a certain region is honestly a joke, no wonder barely any actual oce players play

[grizzled citrus]

are 1 of you a wizard casting haste or invis when your frames drop?

i was geeting bad drops from wiz buff effects. im on a nice rig with a 5080. I turned off cloth simulation and i dont get frame drops during buffs anymore