game-discussion

[errant dawn]

Torture Mastery?

[lyric bough]

i misunderstood, i thought you meant dual wield barbarian. do you mean the zweihander? it has a shorter reach than bardiche, but other advantages like a better riposte. it's a personal preference. the "meta" is bardiche barb in solos

[azure cosmos]

Is there a problem with Frost Mountain? I am in a normal solo que and im at 19+ min waiting lobby!?!

[errant dawn]

Dots will heal you but cost Is 2x

[tiny forum]

Ok thanks

[fair geode]

guys is bard now one of the worst classes in duo ?

[late thorn]

Today my bro sent me a photo with a ban for 3 days in DaD with reason : investigation

Will he be able to play again in 3 days or he will get an permanent ban

[plain marlin]

unknown

[sturdy coral]

they determine within 3 days if he will get perma ban

[late thorn]

What can be the reason for the investigation?

[neat urchin]

cheating prob 😉

[late thorn]

What else?

[plain marlin]

whatever he did, best thing he can do, is beg for mercy

[steel valley]

okay imagine this: delete rogue hide, add instead a grappling hook that spins like barbarian's one but faster and pulls you in instead

[twin edge]

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[plain marlin]

your bold grasshopper, i wish you good fortune

[fair geode]

guys is bard now one of the worst classes in duo ?

[barren oxide]

remove troll pelt from pve drops or make it even less than 1%. I'm tired of trying to learn those bosses only to see them die in 2 second to maxed viola and deathbloom players

[twin edge]

try Oceania servers maybe

[barren oxide]

i guess it works, nobody is here, but lag is annoying.

[twin edge]

I am learning Bladehand (HR) on Oceania servers and I feel the pain too 😄

[agile tide]

These workshops got me broke and I'm not even close on most of them lol

[quasi plover]

i swear goblin caves has so many cheaters

[agile tide]

I don't think it's even gonna be worth it I'm just doing it compulsively for some reason

[quasi plover]

I can have a 1v1 in the most desolate part of the map and there will always be a third partier

[radiant cradle]

@glad thunder change the lever in colussos you can troll someone by countering the lever specially in duos bot player can go to lever and the people below cant get up cause the people upstair interact the lever, so dumb mechanic.

[agile tide]

Can't you just pull the lever at the bottom? It's not like the lift squishes u when it comes down

Pretty sure I've done that

[radiant cradle]

No, the people upstair will interact the lever and it will not go down

[agile tide]

Oh you mean like actively trolling, that's a pain in the ass if they're at both levers.

[radiant cradle]

Yeah they wait till theres no time and they have portal upstair so dumb

[agile tide]

If boss is dead u can take the third lift right? Pain if just your teammate dies tho

[lyric bough]

I just want to thank you for doing this, it's a seriously dire need

[radiant cradle]

We resit and did not kill the boss because we know people is upstair since they lift up the elevator

reset*

[agile tide]

Yeah that's dumb it should be uncancellable so it has to go all the way down, problem solved

[pure trout]

BRO I just died in bis to a barbarian through the wall with whirlwind

like

this is bs

how can whirlwind hit you through a wall

super fair

[quasi plover]

anyone else find the game to be running terribly lately

[tawdry schooner]

Inferno Bosses (Ghostking)
Ghostking's Weapon/Armor/Accessories Drop Rate is ?% Epic, ?% Legendary, 47% Unique, 1% Artifact
Technically 1% chance per loot roll for Artifacts.
But the lich rolls this drop table 3 times.
So overall the Ghostking has approximately 3% chance to drop an Artifact per kill.

is this still acurate

3% chance per gk kill

[twin edge]

GhostKing has Artifact 1.5% chance per each roll

and game is rolling 3 items

so you have 3 times 1.5% chance for it

so exactly how it works is

imagine you have a bowl with 10000 balls

4700 balls are legendary
5150 balls are Unique
150 balls are Artifact

you pick a ball, put it back in x3

Three draws: ~4.43% chance to see at least one Artifact.

[quasi plover]

im so fucking sick of facing barbs im making no mistakes and i still just lose as caster lock

[rapid hound]

Does anyone else know if ice key can be found on first floor or only in abyss haven't found one this season

[prisma horizon]

i think u can get them from the big armor skeleton

[rapid hound]

Ive killed tons of champions and got tons of keys last season but either more rare now for mob drops or they changed it to more likely in chests

[flat granite]

Ive gotten one from a yeti this season. And i think maaaayyybe a small coffer and / or gold chest on top floor

[rapid hound]

Thank you maybe I need more luck lol

[flat granite]

Youll get one on your next yeti kill 100%. I believe

[rapid hound]

Lol appreciate it

[twin edge]

You have:
25% chance from Small Coffers
0.5% chance from Ornate Chest Small
Lions Head Chest - 3%

i dont have time to check more now but I think Golden Chests also have 25% chance

so best bet is Golden Chest and Small Coffers

i can check monsters in a moment

[nocturne urchin]

what is this for?

[twin edge]

Frozen Key

[nocturne urchin]

ah

[rapid hound]

Thank you

[twin edge]

but personally I think it’s better to think: it’s 50/50

you either get it or not 😄

[rapid hound]

Yeah true lol

Last season I prolly hit charnell house like 50 times no artifact tho😐

But this season have yet to find a key lmao maybe Im just unlucky

[lyric bough]

is this info all on the wiki? not doubting, just wondering

[twin edge]

it’s not from wiki

it’s from game files

[quasi plover]

i can kill 3 people every raid and always die to a third party

you have to love rat and ratter

[maiden prism]

Whats the best dou Highroller PvE class?

[quasi plover]

map?

[maiden prism]

hmm everymap on hr...

[quasi plover]

pretty much holy purification cleric on ice caves/ruins

for single mob clearing sorcerer with elemental bolt is goated

[maiden prism]

I treid Cleric but it feels so boring idk

[quasi plover]

pretty awful all around

zero survivability especially to pve

[flat granite]

Warlock with flamewalk and phantomize goes crazy for pve clearing. Bard is pretty good to. Shriek and rapier melt everything

[lunar fable]

Still no fix for can't connect to server bug?

[viral oasis]

how do i find the price check server / tab?

[twin edge]

Yeti does not have any chance to spawn a key in HR Ice Cavern at the moment.

[wind veldt]

I have legendary status and Wanderer 3 yet I cannot queue HR, saying I need legendary status..? I've had the full version of the game since it released.

[round solar]

can anyone help me with spectral knight

[dusty vapor]

restart game

[viral oasis]

for the life of me cant find market tab

[wind veldt]

word. I have I will try restarting launcher. thx

[sour verge]

how long does expressman hold items from previous raid?

[hollow elbow]

would people rather buy a legendary thats got 2 dead stats they have to gem or 1 that has them already so they dont have to use their gems

[sour verge]

i finished a raid, left for like 30 minutes, came back, all my stuff gone but expressman had an exclamation point

[hidden osprey]

anyone having an issue with inventory causing slow-walking?

[lime kraken]

@scarlet wharf

alts allowed in the discord?

Got a guy hopping in vc with an alt to be annoying since his main is muted

[latent hearth]

yo im new in dark and darker and have played about 200 hours and want to start to learn warlock can anyone help me build a squire kit and give some tips?

[snow magnet]

what is the point of navigator and miner npcs?
no crafting, no service, do they give anything?
or its just random quests?

[dense grove]

can i use macro for moving gold pulse in my stash

is it bannable

[mighty tulip]

just some rewards, nothing special

[snow magnet]

thanks

[dense grove]

@scarlet wharf sorry for ping can i use macro for moving gold pulse in my stash its ban reason or na

[regal tree]

it seems my two choices are dx11 which stutters and drops to ~30fps when i start combat or dx12 which is 120fps but crashes randomly and insta-loses matches. im using an amd gpu. ive tried reinstalling the game and wiping and reinstalling my video drivers like 3 times. anyone else having the same issues?

[pure trout]

bro i just got scammed for my nip

theres nothing I can do right?

[halcyon kite]

You did it in the trade post? 😔

[pure trout]

yeah

bro we were haggling around then he made a offer for my nip

and then he suddenly put in a unique morningstar instead of pulverizing prayer

and i accepted cuz I was in a hurry

[halcyon kite]

Oh nooooo

[unreal crane]

where tf u find rings now

[pure trout]

like

"BeardedTank" disgraceful person

[halcyon kite]

You craft them mostly

[pure trout]

Wont even add me back

[unreal crane]

who from?

[halcyon kite]

Yeah dude, you gotta be careful. If folks say this for that, quick quick, it’s likely a scam.

[halcyon kite]

Goldsmith

[pure trout]

dude what a lowlife

it even had good specs thats so sad

[halcyon kite]

Gotta do those quests to unlock more crafts, but you can buy all the items in the market.

[pure trout]

it had +1 add wp dmg and +8% headshot dmg

[halcyon kite]

Yeah dude I’m all kinds of paranoid on the trade post

I usually use the collectors guild for my artifacts

[pure trout]

I've had good experiences up until now

[spice anchor]

40k for the last lvl of workshop is criminal

[unreal crane]

tyvm

[pure trout]

it was just so quick toy

whats the collectors guild

[mental latch]

What is the best comp for trios HR bossing?

[halcyon kite]

It’s approx 150k per workshop. Expensive

[wind veldt]

Reboot of game & launcher didn't clear it up, still saying I need legendary status. I have access to Legendary things like extra trade slots, etc.

[halcyon kite]

I’ll dm you about it. Can’t advertise external discords here

[spice anchor]

yeah its crazy i farmed the wood so didnt have to buy but damn the money is impossible

[halcyon kite]

Try maelstrom hr solo, with some lock picks, hit the chests around the mid and dip out quick.

[hidden osprey]

Solved: issue was my connected controller possibly interfering with binds.

[misty stone]

for nerfing wizard this hard

but letting demon warlock darkorb spam exist

really

[rapid hound]

@twin edge what about champions? And who other mobs would drop them in ice abyss?

[rapid hound]

Also where do you find this info?

[coarse falcon]

Why y’all grinding the workshop so hard

[pseudo flicker]

there should be bigger window than 1 minute to spectate in HR... I was just killed by cheater most likely, but they know you can only spectate 1 min

[random sinew]

Yooo who gives the cosmetics rewards from quest this wipe and what are they? Cant find an answer online.

[main lintel]

have they reverted the wizard nerfs that nobody thought necessary?

[main lintel]

they need to ignore arena... it is its own atmosphere that does not play anything like the main game.... they cannot make changes that appease one and destroy the other

[jovial bluff]

Why did they nerf wizard and not warlock (I do understand wizard nerf)

[coarse falcon]

I can kill any PDR on rogue in arena 3 hits 100% armor pen even after nerf

[jovial bluff]

Rogue needs a rework

Lowkey

[jovial bluff]

You probably bought the full game separately

There’s 2 launches, steam and the actual game from the devs

You might be booting up the wrong one

[warped idol]

The game kicked my friend out twice in pve and both times he lost his items and the Goblin didn't return them, what happened?

[clear pendant]

100 armor pen??

i think that even with maxrolls you cant hit above 70

[ionic widget]

do gobbo bosses have a rare chance to drop artis? or still no on that

[thick kettle]

YO whoever dev came up with pirhanas bro what the hell😭 ✌️

their worse then spiders

[mystic coral]

Which boss seems to drop the best loot?

[jovial bluff]

Ghost king warlord

[mystic coral]

Thats a new one for me havnt heard of him yet lol

[jovial bluff]

They’re 2 separate ones

[lavish shoal]

please buff purge shot and longbow ranger feeling really weak rn

[jovial bluff]

You are new?

[mystic coral]

Somewhat new just can't quite play everyday

[jovial bluff]

Ahh ok

Yeah but warlord is in 2nd hell and ghost king is in third hell of forgotten castle

Ghost king is one of the easiest and warlords more harder but doable solo

People counter ghost king a lot though

[mystic coral]

I'll have to give it a shot havnt gone down on any map yet

[wind veldt]

I've always only played on Blacksmith launcher

[jovial bluff]

Oh then I’m not sure

[queen gyro]

when people ask for hr what does that mean

[sour sun]

High roller

[queen gyro]

ty

how do i become a hr

[coarse falcon]

Weak point, double dagger, perk, armor pen rolls

[main lintel]

its just a tougher game mode. where mobs are all red/ black and deal more damage. its the only place you can get artifacts to drop though and high tier loot

[jovial bluff]

It’s not a rank, it’s a game mode, just means you need legendary status to go into high roller games (30 bucks)

[warm locust]

yeah when we nerfing this barbarian nonsense

[clear pendant]

oh ok i got you now, playing weakpoint with full arpen is not a good idea, you first lower his pdr to 0.7 then you apply your armor pen, its not additive i dont know if im explaining it properly

[jovial bluff]

Broken class in solos but not so bad in trios ngl

[grand beacon]

ya some is additive some is multiplicative really annoying and its not clear at all when is one way or the other

[warm locust]

@jovial bluff yes

[grand beacon]

idk barb seems pretty damn good in arena

[jovial bluff]

Depending on the map, it does lowkey get railed if the other team comp is ranged

[timid shuttle]

Rogue is also insane rn. High ass move speed (especially now since agi was guttered), Insane damage output, Crazy base dex, and if you manage to parry a dagger, their insane move speed helps them get out that said situation. shits disgusting.

[jovial bluff]

Ehhhh

Yes and no lowkey

I think it needs a rework

The engagement and disengagement options on rogue are weird asf

You shouldn’t have to rely on pure luck for it to be insane or dog water

[timid shuttle]

I agree. Managable in norms, but when you get to hr, that class is just disgusting.

[jovial bluff]

Get one shot before you know it if you aren’t playing fighter or barb

Fighter needs a movement nerf and so does barb

Considering they already have good perks for movement and catching

[timid shuttle]

I agree with fighter, but Idk about barbs they are slow as shit rn unless they are in cloth. maybe the perc that gives them more move speed the more damage they take can use a little TLC

[sterile mountain]

Oh hey, i noticed slings are a weapon that exists now! Are they any good?

[jovial bluff]

Dude, I swear, I’ll be on rogue every now and then a barb will somehow run my ass down and catch me

But a lot of the barb builds rn are full ability on pants and shoes so

[timid shuttle]

Its berserker perk i promise.

[jovial bluff]

Agility*

Warlock needs a nerf

It makes no sense to nerf wizard(which is fair, wizard is been meta) but not nerf warlock

[timid shuttle]

for every 3 agi you get 1 movement speed brother. It aint agi

[misty stone]

i main wiz and i can understand they low a little fireball dmg, but MagicMissile nerf is toobig and lets be honest, wizard have dmg, yes, but is a glasscannon and limited spells. Its easy to counter just playing a corner, the nerf is unnecesary

[timid shuttle]

Barb with beserk perc in bis cloth can run you down when they are half hp or lower

[misty stone]

specific demon warlock with the 0.1 darkorb casting infinite

spaming dark orbs like sht

[jovial bluff]

Magic missile nerf was needed but think they should’ve just did 10.5

[misty stone]

yeah i would accept that

[jovial bluff]

You can cuss but not say brain ####

[misty stone]

but how do you reduce 70 scaling to 50

[jovial bluff]

This part was crazy

[warm ingot]

How the fuck is fighter catching you?

[timid shuttle]

W keying rogue is just insane. first game I've ever played where a rogue can win in an 1v1 exchange with a fighter or barb with literaally zero back stabs

[jovial bluff]

How is it not?

The movement ability along with adrenaline rush+the movement perk give them plenty of sprinting distance

[timid shuttle]

Sprint + adrenaline rush go vroom. I use it myself. Had it used one me too plenty of times

[jovial bluff]

I’m not sure how it works, I just know I hate getting ran down

What do yall think about cleric

[warm ingot]

So you have to run 2 skills to run a little faster than other classes for 6 seconds while barb presses rage.

And a perk

[jovial bluff]

Please nerf warlock

[jovial bluff]

Everybody always uses adrenaline rush

[mystic coral]

Is it possible to beat a boss on squire gear?

[jovial bluff]

Very

Especially if ur running bard

[sleek thunder]

WHY is it.... that twice in a row in Ice Abyss solo, bue escapes are opening on top of each other across the map

[mystic coral]

Just a longer fight I'd assume?

[midnight wind]

where do i find wooden mask?

[jovial bluff]

Yes, bard makes them a lot faster

[jovial bluff]

So they’re even.. because every fighter is running adrenaline rush..

[sleek thunder]

Static blues, ropes, whatever, need to be back in High Roller solo "hell" areas. This is crazy way to lose 2 kits. It's impossible to cross the map that fast wtf man

[hardy stump]

it is possible to beat HR bosses on squire

[mystic coral]

Havnt messed with bard but ive heard nothing but hype on em im running a fighter

[timid shuttle]

That speed increase is not the same, but i see what you mean though. but fighter can use longbow so you dont have to necessarily chase anyone where as barb cant shoot shit across a room. frannys have nowhere near the projectile speed as an arrow. Nor does it have the same damage output. geared fighter can take half your hp depending on what class ur on.

[jovial bluff]

Fighters fine but definitely use bard if you’re farming

[midnight wind]

where do i find wooden mask?

[sleek thunder]

Ice Cavern pyramid room

[midnight wind]

okay ty

[warm ingot]

For another perk lol barb gets 10% hp for robust.. like yes perks help the class

[jovial bluff]

Sooo

What’s your point

[timid shuttle]

Is what im trying to understand

[jovial bluff]

Warlock nerf when

[timid shuttle]

who cares about 13-30 extra hp when I can literally shoot you in the face with a long bow and take that away from you in one shot

if you try to run away i can shoot you in the butt, take more hp

[timber imp]

dont do that you might kill him

[jovial bluff]

Spear and halberd need a nerd as a weapon lowkey

Nerf*

[timid shuttle]

Lol

Even if you suck with a bow, you still have the option to get good with it and wreck. Barb has no range at all except frannys. You have to fill half your inventory with them an their damage output is low.

Plz add tool belt to DaD, Dad 🙂

[jovial bluff]

When are they going to add backpacks

Never I assume

[pure trout]

whats an item that holds its value pretty well? The markets like really bad rn

[jovial bluff]

Spectral fabric

[pure trout]

ya think?

I mean I kinda need to buy something cuz I dont have space for the money

[jovial bluff]

Its value is always maintaining or going up

[pure trout]

artifacts fluctuate too much and are hard to sell

[errant dawn]

Not just market not just market xD the game need wipe probably And legit balance xD

[pure trout]

spec bags fluctuate between 45 to like 70k

[jovial bluff]

Spectral fabrics, gold coin bags, spec bags

Those all never go down

And they have good trading value

[pure trout]

hmm spec fabrics ur right but spec bags and gold coin bags are kinda bad ngl

[jovial bluff]

Yeah

[pure trout]

anything else?

[jovial bluff]

Spec bags? What’s wrong about them

[pure trout]

I've seen them go from 49k to 75k today

[jovial bluff]

Gold coin bags I understand

[pure trout]

thats too much for me

[timid shuttle]

troll pelt if u need quick n easy

[jovial bluff]

Always that too

[pure trout]

I can max hold 150k coins and need to buy high value items worth 200k

[jovial bluff]

12kish and consistent

Didn’t he answer you or was he BSing

[pure trout]

troll pelt is 20k rn

[jovial bluff]

Really?

[midnight wind]

where in pyramid is the wooden mask?

[jovial bluff]

Geez

[pure trout]

prices are crazy man

[errant dawn]

Torch on top or what is it

[pure trout]

also why is nipalan still 15% armor pen

[jovial bluff]

Didn’t help the devs didn’t do jack when duping was happening for a while

[pure trout]

they banned most dupers plus mules

[jovial bluff]

They need to remove that shitty ass bug where you can’t loot your OWN dead body

[midnight wind]

ive been here many times now and cant find it

[jovial bluff]

True, but people who owned gold coin bags or above got super rich just from that

[pure trout]

I mean I made my fair share of money from selling my troll pelts

after all they went up 2x

but thats also due to arena

[jovial bluff]

I was only able to capitalize off of like 3 and I had to share it with my buds

😣

[pure trout]

yeah thats why I solo gob cave

cave troll is super easy to do with 3 shards warlock or shadow touch warlock cuz u heal

[errant dawn]

Look on bottom of the torch

[pure trout]

took me like 2mins most of the times with halberd left side double headshot

[jovial bluff]

I just ran bards most of the time

But god the dark and darker servers are shit

[pure trout]

bards is good but tbh people are more scared of warlocks

its a super good class rn especially for HR

[jovial bluff]

And I lag a lot sometimes for no apparent reason when my WiFi is fine

[errant dawn]

The fire something made from 3 stick

[pure trout]

thats why warlock is good

[jovial bluff]

warlocks are bs

They nerfed wizard but not warlock which is insane

[pure trout]

phantomize is such a life saver

Tbh I raged today in HR cuz a warlock caster did 50% of my health when I was running Bis fighter

25% Mdr btw

[jovial bluff]

Because warlocks I feel are actually doing better in the current meta

[pure trout]

they are cuz meta is fighter and (barb)

[errant dawn]

Jea warlock Is Broken.. barbar is broken and for braindead prople xD

[jovial bluff]

And there’s so much more variety builds with warlock than wizard

[pure trout]

warlock is broken because he can spam spells that do 50% of your health at 2% of his health cost

also phantomize is just broken

[errant dawn]

Wizzard is trash and get 6 nerfs for be even more trash xD

[pure trout]

you can just run away from everything and all

[jovial bluff]

And then use life drain hydra

[pure trout]

life drain hydra only good for mag healing builds

[jovial bluff]

Not to mention is SO much easier for warlocks to hit their abilities than wizard

[jovial bluff]

Dark offering builds with them are so annoying

[pure trout]

but caster lock that just atracts all the mobs on the map hits you with cop and phantomizes through the mobs

theres not much you can do against that

you cant chase cuz mobs and your obv low after that cop

[midnight wind]

where do i find shackles?

[jovial bluff]

Nerf warlock

[pure trout]

also warlock is just a better pdr fighter IMO cuz of MDR and BOC potential

[jovial bluff]

They should nerf action speed

Which is crazy to say but a lot of fast action speed characters give you literally no reason to try to riposte when they still swing faster than you after being parried

[subtle birch]

spec bags are almost back up to the price they were when the dupe was most active... wtf guys

[pure trout]

might be a crazy call but change COP to 10 dmg instanly and reduce the duration to 5 secs with less dmg (might even be a buff)

it encourages the caster to wait 5 sec to proc that extra 10 dmg inst cast

[trim fern]

nerf barb

[pure trout]

true nerf whirlwind to not allow dmg through walls

[jovial bluff]

What’s COP again

[pure trout]

thats how I lost my pesti today super sad

[pure trout]

curse of pain

[chrome blaze]

Lock boss rooms when the boss is agro so no one can get in or out Increase the drop rates of artifacts from all potential sources that drop them so that the lowest drop chance is 10% from any given source
Allow for keys to be taken out of the dungeon and be a sellable item the collector will buy for 1000 coins but keep them as a non trade item
Nerf all bows by giving bows a stamina system that causes them to have bow sway that progressively gets worse after holding a fully drawn bow for more than 3 seconds make this also apply to spells so wizards can not hold a full charged fireball forever and after 3 seconds of full charge the spells goes out of control forcing the spell to disappear and need a recast
Make clarity pots recover spells normally and make clarity pots a on trade item that only can be bought from merchant and crafted by merchant like health pots give rogue invis a 20% move speed bonus when Invis and make it so he does not need to crouch or shift walk to stay invis but make it so a VISIBLE shadow trail is left when rogue moves for fighters disarm instead of making someone holster the weapon they are using simply make it so that they can't attack like when a spider disables someones attack with its venom give sorc 4 extra memory capacity at his base stats
And increase druids base spell casting speed for all animal shifts by 10% and leave it as it is for now
Make the spider webs on the ground that lock you in place after you stand in them for a certain amount of time in goblin caves breakable
reduce the range of all hitscan spells with the current state of the games move speeds being so low for every class

[jovial bluff]

Oh yes

I agree

[trim fern]

i want barb to be unplayable for just one day

[pure trout]

curse of pain ticks for too long

[jovial bluff]

Iron will is way too OP

[pure trout]

ALSO reckless nerf did nothing tbh

[trim fern]

fr

[pure trout]

iron will is good

EVERY barbarian has atleast 10% armor pen somewhere

[trim fern]

a barb breathed on me and i died

[mystic coral]

Can blade hands swing be avoided by crouching?

[pure trout]

also 60% pdr is max for basically any class except fighter

reckless needs to be 50% PEN for 25% reduced PDR IMO

its a fair trade

[jovial bluff]

Blade hands?

What’s that

[pure trout]

a boss

maelstrom boss

[jovial bluff]

Ohh

Wait

[mystic coral]

Yea

[jovial bluff]

As in the pirate?

[pure trout]

yeah

the one on the island

[jovial bluff]

People actually do pirate?

I only go there for the mantis

[pure trout]

he can drop Artifacts

shields

[chrome blaze]

Lock boss rooms when the boss is agro so no one can get in or out Increase the drop rates of artifacts from all potential sources that drop them so that the lowest drop chance is 10% from any given source
Allow for keys to be taken out of the dungeon and be a sellable item the collector will buy for 1000 coins but keep them as a non trade item
Nerf all bows by giving bows a stamina system that causes them to have bow sway that progressively gets worse after holding a fully drawn bow for more than 3 seconds make this also apply to spells so wizards can not hold a full charged fireball forever and after 3 seconds of full charge the spells goes out of control forcing the spell to disappear and need a recast
Make clarity pots recover spells normally and make clarity pots a on trade item that only can be bought from merchant and crafted by merchant like health pots give rogue invis a 20% move speed bonus when Invis and make it so he does not need to crouch or shift walk to stay invis but make it so a VISIBLE shadow trail is left when rogue moves for fighters disarm instead of making someone holster the weapon they are using simply make it so that they can't attack like when a spider disables someones attack with its venom give sorc 4 extra memory capacity at his base stats
And increase druids base spell casting speed for all animal shifts by 10% and leave it as it is for now
Make the spider webs on the ground that lock you in place after you stand in them for a certain amount of time in goblin caves breakable
reduce the range of all hitscan spells with the current state of the games move speeds being so low for every class
Make iron will have a cooldown and proc last 20 seconds

[jovial bluff]

What artifact do yall think needs a buff

[pure trout]

mantis drops the better things but shields are not bad

[jovial bluff]

Besides stinky stick maybe

[mystic coral]

Oh im just trying him really

[jovial bluff]

The artifact one is a bit much but everything else is pretty agreeable

[pure trout]

Elven needs a buff, Nip needs the rework done correctly (still 15% pen even though longbow is only 10% now)

[stone oak]

the movement changes for this season are bad and im tired of pretending they're not

[jovial bluff]

Oh fs the bows seem pretty weak this wipe

[midnight wind]

where do i find shackles?

[chrome blaze]

It's to reduce gear fear and make rolls be more important

[pure trout]

lock boss rooms when the boss is aggro is a super bad idea

[jovial bluff]

Feels like legendary and unique long bows do more damage

[pure trout]

yk that you can kite a boss infinitely

[chrome blaze]

How

[pure trout]

I can promise you I will never die to a boss with warlock when just going for avoid

[chrome blaze]

Kill the boss

[pure trout]

I singlehandedly could block a boss the whole round

[stone oak]

people absolutely will troll it

[chrome blaze]

You have to kill it to leave the room

[pure trout]

what

bows are super strong this wipe

its just elven kinda sucks

[stone oak]

also rogues would start running infinite hide builds to landmine people on boss

[jovial bluff]

Artifact ones

[pure trout]

yeah the armor pen removal is actually A buff for elven bow as well as survival bow in general

[chrome blaze]

Like they don't already

[pure trout]

it allows them to reach a higher Armor pen base stat

I just ran a 6% armor pen legendary survival bow

[jovial bluff]

I think bosses are fine

[chrome blaze]

💔🥀

[pure trout]

?

[jovial bluff]

The only one that really does put you at immediate risk of danger if getting countered is ghost king

[pure trout]

I mean the base stat from the leg surv bow was 6% not my overall armor pen

[chrome blaze]

Torture mastery was buffed btw this wipe

[stone oak]

survival bow is so trash though

[pure trout]

survival bow is peak 🙁 I use it with quick fire and quickshot

[jovial bluff]

Really?

[chrome blaze]

I'm just tired of being shot at from doorway forcing me to reset boss like 7 times

[jovial bluff]

Swear thought would be better

[pure trout]

yeah with good armor pen on armor its lowkey broken you shoot so fast with also good actionspeed

I maanged to max the action speed stat with quickfire

[jovial bluff]

I feel like a recurve would be better for that no?

🤔

[pure trout]

also crippleshot

[jovial bluff]

But all bows are pretty good

[stone oak]

or running the armor pen active

[pure trout]

also good choice but I like the spam

And you cant get a high roll on armor pen on recurve bow

cuz it gives you armor pen base

[jovial bluff]

I’m so guilty of this

I was on rogue harassing this guy with hand crossbow

[cyan coral]

hey what stat should i worry about stacking the highest for wizard

[chrome blaze]

😕

[pure trout]

I think will but I dont really play wizard only warlock sometimes

[jovial bluff]

Just make sure to get 60% spell casting speed minimum and you know

[stone oak]

you need a whole lot of cast speed. knowledge/cast speed and will

[jovial bluff]

Get as much magical damage buff as you can

And you’re basically set

[stone oak]

60% is kinda low tbh

[midnight wind]

how do i get shackles?

[stone oak]

play water map

[midnight wind]

okay

[stone oak]

or buy them

[midnight wind]

do i find them in chests crates or npcs?

[stone oak]

if i remember right they'll just be like on crates, tables, randomly on the ground

[knotty pine]

day 50 of asking devs to FIX HASTE IT LOWERS FPS FOR EVERYONE u can legit feel a team coming before you see them

[sour sun]

disagree, bossing should require you to not only watch the boss and that fight but to be aware of your surroundings.

[narrow thunder]

where do cuddlefish spawn

[knotty pine]

3 way intersection below top left of map and bottom right above the crashed ship where the res shrine is

[subtle heart]

Holy shit why is arena never fucking open

[silent spruce]

it only opens on weekends

and friday

[subtle heart]

You basically HAVE to play when it opens otherwise you can’t level up damn

[silent spruce]

they never open it outside of those days

[chrome blaze]

I'm perfectly fine with doing that after the boss is dead it's not fun restarting the boss 7 times because everyone wants to grief you

[hollow stirrup]

how hard are the caster characters? i was thinking of switching off cleric for a caster but also scared abt my aim lol atleast in melee range i cant miss

[silent spruce]

not that hard but not too easy

they're in the middle difficulty wise id say

[chrome blaze]

Not trying to discourage you but playing barb would be best

[trim fern]

love when a fighter and barb team on a squire in hr

[hollow stirrup]

i just dont know if barb fits me

my playstyle in most games is sort of kinda scared haha, the closeset i played to dark and darker is tarkov and im usually the patient longshot person instead of cqc

[chrome blaze]

I say this cuz like the games getting ran by rogues and barbs rn

It's not healthy to feed rogues free money

[hollow stirrup]

i wanted to try rogue but it looks hard to be squishy when im used to being tanky but the stiletto dagger looks like so much fun

[daring reef]

does anyone here play cleric and run hr crypts?

[hollow stirrup]

i tried alot but keep getting bodied by sorcs and warlocks

most melee engagements i won tho

[chrome blaze]

I can assure you rogue is not hard all you need is to be built right

[daring reef]

do you know if cleanse still works on ghost kings suck?

[hollow stirrup]

i do not i havent tried it, i usually do the fight normally haha

[daring reef]

yeah that'd be nice but every single time I've tried to do the boss today people push into the boss arena during his suck phase and its actually so pathetic

[hollow stirrup]

yeahh its rough especially with our already slow ms

[coarse falcon]

Yes but say a target has 100 armor rating. Weakpoint reduces by 40% because it’s a debuff so the armor drops to 60 armor rating. Then your armor pen applies it looks at the 60 AR and decides how much to ignore of it and 60% of 60 is 36 so once you 60-36 you end with 24 AR.

[hollow stirrup]

oh cool if u unlock high roller on one character it unlocks it for all

[pure trout]

y'all know how much soul scraper is worth

[spice dragon]

trying to learn ice abyss, but this map is just awful risk/reward no ? I get less money than any other map and it is the risky one

[elfin fern]

hr or norms? first floor is bad for loot, it used to be amazing before all the chest downgrades

[silent spruce]

its solid

i like it because less ppl tend to run really good gear there

because of the void

dont get stat checked as often as other maps

[spice dragon]

I play HR only, water map I get arround 4k+ for 10min without risking anything, here it's floor breaking, dangerous mobs, and I get way less money per hour on it

What should I be aiming for on this map ? cause mobs aint dropping anything either, looks like a waste of time even if the map looks interresting

[keen mauve]

There's 2 modules with gold piles in ice abyss, you can make fat money from those

3 if you find the frozen key

[spice dragon]

that's it ? it is kinda sad :/ I guess I need to rush those rooms I suppose

[clear pendant]

just bring lockpicks open every lion or golden because frozen key is op, you can get nameds in that pile

[spice dragon]

will give it a try, thanks boys

[keen mauve]

Not many people go ice abyss so I highly doubt you'd be contested

[spice dragon]

I wonder why 😂

[lyric bough]

whats the difference between crystal ball and spellbook? building a tortue mastery warlock

[narrow thunder]

use book

ur faster cause the point of using ball is to use kris dagger with it

[hollow stirrup]

Crystal ball casts slower but can use a melee with it, book casts faster

[pure trout]

if your move speed base is 330 use crystal ball

otherwise always book

[twin edge]

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[native harbor]

Does anyone know how to fix lag? no other games a play do, im on the right server. I just cant play

also barvier youre doing gods work

[jovial bluff]

I don’t think there’s a really way too, just wait

The game os just ass and can’t afford good servers

[deep helm]

when i max out the cockatrice, what does it do?

[coarse falcon]

Unlocks unemployment

[fervent anvil]

idk exact timings but it brings you gems

[floral pendant]

What mobs does demon dmg bonus work on? Only the ones that look like demons? 😂

If undead and demon dmg bonus were combined they wouldnt be absolutely horrible rolls

[hearty heath]

Some of the skeletons identify as demons so it may work on them

[weary ridge]

anyone else having issues loading into a game and having to close out of the game to get back in????

[pure trout]

...

I like when the plate fighter catches up to me while hitting me

(I was a rogue with 325 Ms)

mf was running sprint and adrenaline rush

[hearty heath]

he got that anti rogue build

[sonic maple]

That is super speed

[terse pasture]

does anyone know what the pdr of the practice dummys on ruins is?

[honest cedar]

Do blue portals have a time length in HR?

• if so, how long do they stay open?

[vapid oyster]

0

[weak horizon]

anyone willing to trade me 2 coins bags full for an empty spec bag

[vivid stratus]

New bug, where the game spam reconnects when going down to the lava floor on gobbo cave.

And relaunch does not fix it.

[rotund cedar]

genuinely how are people saying this is one of the best wipes yet? this game sucks so bad right now if you didnt start at the beginning of wipe. everygame i play i die to full or near full blue kits who are 5 times my level

[sonic maple]

Those blue kits would take you a game or two to copy

[coarse portal]

No one cares

[vivid stratus]

Anyone know how to contact an admin? The game is fully stuck for me and my friend cuz of a bug, so we can't even get into the game, it's stuck in cthe match is currently in progress. Please wait while we reconnect. And this just keeps getting spamming forever.

[twin edge]

boohoo

[deep helm]

thatd be a sick burn if i couldnt just buy it all lol

[deep helm]

just dont care about gear, even if u go full gold and unique ull die to a 60%+ pdr guy anyways

[vivid stratus]

Says while magic is still the most busted.

[deep helm]

say u dont play without saying u dont play

[deep helm]

magic isnt close to the most busted. Range like bows and high pdr are. Most with a high pdr also have a high mdr too

[sonic maple]

You can afford to buy ALL the unemployment?

[vivid stratus]

So why is Wizard a must pick for Arena?

[deep helm]

thats arena, arena meta is very different from actual game meta. Cleric was meta in arena for awhile if that tells u anything

[sonic maple]

Because his spells are reset

[vivid stratus]

Do you play the game? Or are you just that bad?

[deep helm]

do u? Its seems like u only play arena

[vivid stratus]

Bet you go into norms with a kit xD

[deep helm]

god no, i do found gear or squire in HR

norms rnt my style, loot pool isnt high enough

[vivid stratus]

Need 24 gear score lobbies back.

Where skill was shown instead of just out gearing people.

Tho i do love squire to riches.

[deep helm]

so ull play anything but the normal modes

makes sense ur concept of meta

[vivid stratus]

Your a fun one.

[deep helm]

if we are go back to season 1 - 3 meta of magic boys and range i will be the first to uninstall trust me

its what made me quit for 2 years

[vivid stratus]

Same.

It's not as bad, but it's still bad with ranger dmg and generel ranged dmg.

[deep helm]

well archery and range is so easy to do

like compare to other games this is BF6 sniping levels of easy

[vivid stratus]

Insane comparison. But it makes a lotta sense, since it makes me understand how you can be so bad at DnD and think you are correct, if you play such games.

[sonic maple]

Awe yes 0 gear where fighters and barbs reign supreme

[vivid stratus]

You mean where players have to parry and space? Instead of running broken add phys and add magic?

[sonic maple]

Where only a few classes are even viable because all base kits are not created equal. Try playing rogue with no gear vs pdr fighter 50 pdr no gear

[vivid stratus]

Brother Rogue is the weakest and has been so for god knows how many seasons, so play the game.

[sonic maple]

Or any class besides fighter and barb obviously

But playing those classes in no gear lobbies when they outdo all others is just a different kind of gear check

[vivid stratus]

Warlock is stille hella busted in 24 gear.

So no.

[autumn seal]

what makes sorcerers lightning storm hit faster?

[viral oasis]

how much would a halberd with 11.9 phys dmg bonus go for?

[autumn seal]

im assuming its spellcasr speed but i wasnt sure if it was debuff duration or something

[vapid oyster]

🍿

[sonic maple]

So no = further proving my point being up the best gearless class dark offering

[fervent anvil]

if only it was actually busted

[gilded socket]

just got team 1v2 in hr i love solo experience

[zenith summit]

is there any point to obsidian yet?

does it have a use?

[deep helm]

a few quests as far as i can see

i got armorer, weaponsmith, and leathersmith at 150 and i dont remember seeing obi as a crafting ingredient

[zenith summit]

alright

[hybrid bane]

found some tanglethreads with 3 Know, 2 Str, and 1 Dex, anyone know a good pricing point, or would want to purchase said trousers??

[novel rock]

am i able to get my arena kit after i die in adventure mode because I dc

[swift grove]

yup. goblin will return it when the map you were on has ended (last player leaves/dies) with up to 3 minutes of wait time

[viscid palm]

whats the point of doing all the goblin merchant quests if im only gonna get the same amount of items as a guy 7 questss behind me

[fervent anvil]

quest rewards

[viscid palm]

RE RE devs

barbarian knowlege stat devs

[dusky stratus]

whats the typical response time for a warden application ? 4 weeks no respone yet

[viscid palm]

what i actually wwant to call them is blocked

[full hound]

is there a way to turn off drunk visual effects or to turn them down

[viscid palm]

barbarian knowlege stat devs

[elfin fern]

@rapid vine sorry for the bm, i was peeved

[viscid palm]

WHY DONT I GET ALL MY ITEMS BACK WHEN I DIE TO MOBS WHY IS THE DUNGEON DELETING LOOT

BRAIN LESS DEVS

HOPE YOUR GAME DIES

[honest cedar]

I'm so happy I spent 80k to randomly craft REALLY bad uniques

• PEAK. GAMING.

[fervent anvil]

the dungeon is hungry

[rapid vine]

[honest cedar]

Cost me 2.5k to craft a unique hand cannon with magical damage bonus

• This game is garbage

[wary anchor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/699983/7-days-a-week-arena

[viscid palm]

how does it work why does it not always give your entire kit when you die to mobs or rogue poison, i got my entire kit back one time other times only fragments of kits

[ripe hare]

does luck work now? Anybody knows

[hybrid bane]

found some tanglethreads with 3 Know, 2 Str, and 1 Dex, anyone know a good pricing point, or would want to purchase said trousers??/

[viscid palm]

i just died at the extract with 0 time in the raid noone looted the kit why the FUk did i get 3 peices of gear back

[crude raft]

yes

[ripe hare]

goblin quest lvl

if you do all quest you should get whole kit they said

[viscid palm]

i did

[ripe hare]

but maybe not all quest out yet

[viscid palm]

every quest

animal devs

animal intelligence level

actual cavemen sdf i hope you find a better dev to sell your game to. your an actual brainless loser, in your dev blog you talk about making the game more intuitive, and accessible to newer casual players but the goblin merchent only gives you 3 items back when you die to YOUR GARBAGE GAME SERVERS LAGGING

releasing only half the questlines at the start of the wipe are you serious

[grand shadow]

@pure granite damn bro you had gear, i thought i was helping a squire ranger kill that geared fighter

[vapid oyster]

Ever Quest?

great game

[pallid hemlock]

he was specifically talking about the jumping mechanics. meaning. sdf believes mid-air velocity slowing is more intuitive than jumping to keep your momentum. keep that in mind any time you wonder why this game is the way it is and where it is going

[rich cargo]

How much should I sell my golden hounskull 2 strength, 1 dex, 3 will, and 1.5 dmg reduction for ?

[ripe hare]

its more noob friendly I guesse

[compact solstice]

why so few lions head chests in goblin caves? i did 3 whole runs and still haven't found 2 untouched

[pallid hemlock]

the change was due to a single PVE chu* he played with who never decided to jump to keep momentum in thousands of hours of playing #sdfs-kitchen message

[fervent anvil]

they lowered the amount of the big chests. basically all the lions head spawns can also be just a large oak chest now

[compact solstice]

brutal. never gonna find two in one raid T_T

[fervent anvil]

you can find them. just keep looking

[compact solstice]

3 raids i ran through every module didn't get it

[tame elbow]

what does de miner and navigant npc???

[ripe hare]

anybody know if luck stat works

[sonic maple]

THE calmest league player

[sonic maple]

it works

[errant dawn]

Id be curious to know who at Ironmace is responsible for balancing the game… and based on what they balance it… do they have a “wheel of fortune” in their office... that they always spin and whatever comes up thats what happens… the game its getting worse and worse...

[twin edge]

probably some stats? they share screenshots from powerbi dashboards from time to time

if something has higher usage than other available alternatives, they probably investigate it, compare with real gameplay and take actions

[sonic lily]

What stat effects how fast you collect treasure piles?

[elfin fern]

resourcefulness, because it helps contribute to your regular interaction speed

it's why in pve you see people stacking unique resourcefulness items and reg interaction speed

[charred veldt]

Yo guys

Made an artifact suggestion

in #suggestion-discussion

[modern shadow]

guys i just bought a lev why cant i heal my teammate in pve? is it a glitch or is the mechanic broken or do i not understand what it does

[charred veldt]

Was I cooking or I should do like SDF and never go back in the kitchen

[pale ivy]

it might be me but i feel like the loot in HR has gotten slightly worse

[clear pendant]

sdf kitchen is back

game was too good this wipe so he gotta fix that

[charred veldt]

But is my suggestion peak or ass

[clear pendant]

artifact pavise dgshi

give me a rondel dagger already

[charred veldt]

wouldn't make sense thematically

with the firedeep

if they make a forest map or something

[clear pendant]

fire dagger

[charred veldt]

I got good ideas

like a dex/agi stealing dagger

like soul scrapper but

[clear pendant]

just make a rondel dagger like viola

stop thinking funny ideas

i want a reasom to rmt bro

[charred veldt]

what

[jovial bluff]

Anybody know if there’s dark and darker trading discord servers?

[charred veldt]

trader's guild?

[jovial bluff]

Traders guild is ass

If ur talking about the in game one

[charred veldt]

the... discord server...

[jovial bluff]

Oooooh shit

There is one?

[charred veldt]

but that's kind of filled with elitist posting full unique kits and artifacts

or bised out legendaris

[jovial bluff]

It’s fine

Where can I find dat

🤔

[thorny monolith]

where to find wood coffin

[stray heart]

What’s the best solo class?

[indigo dagger]

barb forever barb

[fervent anvil]

its whatever class you know the best

[mental garden]

The best class period is barb, not just the best solo class. It probably has what, 5-7 times the win rate of any other class? Not a single weakness, wins any matchup free, etc. Rewarded for poor gameplay

[clear pendant]

win rate? you mean arenas or

[jovial bluff]

Just go 2nd floor forgotten castle or goblin caves

[jovial bluff]

Probably means most extracts/won fights most likely

[clear pendant]

with inequal gear, skill and so? even with stats (for sure its not 5-7x win rate than others) wouldnt show anything

[tropic brook]

w sdf literal human rice grain

[tulip mirage]

Bard not barb. :p

[clear pendant]

also solos cant be balanced till they do some balance changes exclusively for solo, like league of legends do in arams

[wary anchor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/699983/7-days-a-week-arena

[mental garden]

It's not but it's excessive

[next basin]

does anyone know the chances for the frost wyvern egg to be there?

[jovial bluff]

I mean, I’d assume so

Barb is the best class to run solo

No downside

[tropic brook]

@glad thunder your less than human i want you to know every year your worth garbage

[cyan coral]

anyone else having major lag issues

[elfin fern]

Ive ground It for literal years in norms and have only seen the egg once

[violet elbow]

anyone know if the squire offers a quiver to set as base gear later down the quest line??

[fast shore]

Have you ever played wizard?

50 mdr and i still die in 4-5 spells

[sonic maple]

[quaint sluice]

Is this game good again or is it still bad?

[stone panther]

i doubt it, as he only offers stuff that fits in slots and quiver can only go in inventory

[mental garden]

i can def assure you that's not the case, i can start streaming that not being the case

[fast shore]

Skill issue

[mental garden]

k

[mental garden]

isn't that in fact a skill issue on your part in this context

[quaint sluice]

Can I link my account to steam or no?

[kind abyss]

guys, what is the price of the pp?

in gold

3 spectrals?

[torn fiber]

Hopefully we see an update for bossing since it’s so contested. By the time we kill the griefers there’s no time left to boss.

OSRS added “instances” to fix that problem in their game.

[stone panther]

around that, yeh (for not so great rolls) 4 and up for good rolls

[clear pendant]

game is in a really good state but sdf is back to his kitchen

[low tendon]

does getting affinity on treasurer even do anything

[wanton garnet]

how about a endless dungeon run. were you keep on going down each dungeon map till run

[stone panther]

I believe it lowers the cost of stuff he sells (silver for gold, pouches)

[low tendon]

how much goldsmith affinty to craft grimsmile rings?

[stoic shadow]

SDF is more of a mann than you rogue players

[flat portal]

why did i just get @d

[fast shore]

Nooe

[mental garden]

Yep so the only way the math is mathing there is if you're getting head shot 4-5x in a row. Do you want me to roast you with the math

[robust otter]

imagine they had a monk that could counter barb solo

[zenith summit]

dark and darker

[dire rapids]

what's up guys does anyone know why when opening the game an error stating close game appears? This has been happening to me for awhile now.

[wary anchor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/699983/7-days-a-week-arena

[half tulip]

can we get a arena but it's for 1v1 or can we get an option to fight people on your friends list. and i know u made stuff purple to not effect the market. what about a system where winning gives fake currency tha can be used in exchange for arena only items where you always get max roles like in the test place

[misty schooner]

did this game get better or is it still shit

[cosmic forge]

Mid tbh

[sonic maple]

do you like gambling

[native panther]

Game recognizes game 😏

[fringe surge]

as a healing cleric what should my magical healing target be?

[clear pendant]

your ally

[fringe surge]

i meant like number wise for me to heal the right amount

[clear pendant]

as much as posible

[fringe surge]

is 14 high or low?

[clear pendant]

magical damage bonus increases your healing too

[fringe surge]

oh okay bet

[dire granite]

mid you get in the 20s

anyone wanna kill spec for me tho

[clear pendant]

with the +5 perk is really low

[fringe surge]

heard!

i guess i should be using a cermonial staff instead of a book while healing?

[stone panther]

for sure. Cheap unique staff with terrible rolls gives like +9 magical healing. Using a book as a healer is shooting yourself in the foot

[fringe surge]

okay heard that!

[misty schooner]

when does wipe end

[fringe surge]

prob while we are only like a month or 2 in

[dire rapids]

@zinc sparrow yo pls help

[leaden zinc]

Is stingray really the only boss that REQUIRES you to have gear to beat it??

The fuck is this boss? 2x the action speed than on regular mode... literally no other boss is like this. Unless you are in gear you cannot dodge 1 of the attacks, you can't.

[mental garden]

*boos

[leaden zinc]

Is that a yes? Or just flame/toxic? I've been trying it for about 6-10 hours now and beat it easy on norms, but highroller is absurd action speed by boss

Who am I kidding lol ofc its flame/toxic. This game breeds "people" like you. Thanks for the input buddy... I will keep grinding it out until I figure it out. Really great insight there

[warm ingot]

I mean good luck with the new fire boss

[keen mauve]

Not really, many people have posted videos of killing it in squire gear

[leaden zinc]

Damn, how many is many?! There is 2-3 videos on youtube and that's it. I cannot find enough info D:

[viscid pumice]

i can beat it in squire...in hr

[leaden zinc]

Teach me? Because this is to my understanding the only boss who is 2x the action speed in HR, it's so silly.. I can do every other boss but flame guy and this ray

[viscid pumice]

is it really 2x? tbh its hella slow in my eyes

[leaden zinc]

It is, I spent 6 hours doing norms and got it down cake..... then went to HR and it is 2x as quick for everthing. Dash, tail whips etc

[viscid pumice]

when it was released it was way faster

[viscid pumice]

can u kill it without getting touched once

[leaden zinc]

I get hit by the lower tail whip going up?? Hope that makes sense.. everthing else is fine to me

I am too slow to swip up and over it seems in squire

[viscid pumice]

what class u doin it with

[leaden zinc]

Bard/barb/fighter

[mental garden]

intentionally forcing someone to tk (blocking water map entrance) and then reporting should be a perma ban

[viscid pumice]

do it in fighter

longsword

[viscid pumice]

wdym? what block. theres two gates

[leaden zinc]

Can you come to my stream rq??

[mental garden]

on the water map? no, you cannot move on certain spawns

[leaden zinc]

@viscid pumice

[viscid pumice]

what stream

twitch?

[leaden zinc]

Sent you a dm

[gleaming owl]

this game is so fucking dumb btw i just spawned in my hr lobby to a skele already shooting me before i could move or anything only to load in die and then see someone imediately spawn in the same spot

[lapis rapids]

Do you loose items in PVE when i jump into void

[civic pewter]

im new so idk if im right but you loose all ur loot when you die and the goblin can get some of ur stuff back based on affinity when you die

[stone panther]

It's no different from dying to a mob since a season or 3. All recoverable items can be bought back from gobo. (so not stuff like pickaxes, but other gear, yeh)

[lapis rapids]

legend, it just came back brother!

[civic pewter]

i need help on smtg, i can't find any boss on the map, is there online map where it shows you everything?

[stone panther]

darkanddarkertracker

bosses are not that hard to find though, which map you searching on?

[civic pewter]

Ohh wait let me try the website, i was on the forgotten castle, since i saw a cool boss skeleton that fly but he was too strong i wanted to comeback w party and couldn't find him on, but i'd love to find a boss on forgotten castle, frost moutain or goblin map

this website so cool damn thank you

[stone panther]

was it a dude with a big shield? Look for Skeleton Champion on those maps if you want to fight him. It's a mini-boss

[civic pewter]

i think its the spectral knight ! do you think a lvl 38 solo can take him down?

[stone panther]

He can be done in squire. It'll take some time to learn his moves though. For the most part rotating around him to the right works. and when he screams DIE, just run. lol

[civic pewter]

im a cleric using holy purification, i could go inside the fight use my spell and leave waiting out the cooldown but does he heal himself over time while i wait?

since he's a undead it deals pretty good dmg i think

[stone panther]

he does not heal as long as you stay inside the room. If you leave he resets but other than that there is no difference between taking 10 seconds or 10 minutes to do the damage.

yeh, cleric does a ton of damage to him. Both mica vista and smite hurt the heck out of him. So do spells

[civic pewter]

i see thank you so much omw to get absolutely demolished by him, or not 😭

yeah that why i stay in forgotten castle, so much skeleton that cleric can just cheese thru

same for ice moutain

[stone panther]

as cleric, your biggest problem will be you are slow.

When he starts phasing you got 2 options. Either correctly guess (based on his blade angle) if he goes for a low or high sword spin. And jump or crouch accordingly. Which takes a fair bit of practice.
or you can run to the other side of the module. Last one is easiest, but.. you slow dude 😄

[civic pewter]

he fucked me up

😭 damn

[rapid vapor]

Iirc the upper swing has longer range than the lower one so you can run away and duck when you hear him start the swing.

[civic pewter]

it wasnt' any of those

he somehow made a huge aoe

with ice

i ended up one hp

[rapid vapor]

You have to run away when he starts that. It's really telegraphed. Most of spectral knight is memorizing what to do when he does each attack

[civic pewter]

when he reach that, does it means i did significant dmg to him?

wait i just reached wanderer 3 and realized you need to pay to play 💀 oh damn

[rapid vapor]

No, when he says die and starts charging an attack is when he's transitioning phases. When he does that you have to run away

[stone panther]

you can still play, your AP is just maxed out until they wipe the season in a month or 2 😛 XP still goes up

[civic pewter]

he did the die many times, it was a small AOE the other big aoe he didn't say anything

[civic pewter]

no i meant to reach High roller, where the good loot is at

[stone panther]

oh. yeh, no hr on the free version

[civic pewter]

sadness.png

[hardy stump]

play one game, clear 1 room and you'll get skin

ah f2p, welp

[civic pewter]

yeah f2p x'(

i have a question but i can't send screen

can i dm anyone?

[viscid pumice]

guys where can i find copper

its not in the wiki for some reason

[outer grail]

goblin caves, in the goblin mines module there are a bunch of iron/cobalt/copper nodes, there's also a chance at copper nodes in troll room at the top

[viscid pumice]

appreciate it king

[outer grail]

:)

[coarse sequoia]

man, what is up with all these cheaters and teamers in solos, i just had 3 identical warlocks with all silly names, same build, rush me at the same time

and its the same damn people every time, and they never get banned

[viscid pumice]

obv skill issue bro, sdf is expecting u to pull a 360 parry headshot with halbred on all three enemies in one attack

[civic pewter]

IS the squires to riches better than any other gamemode (for Free to play) to farm? i just got 700gold in a few minutes it seems worth it

[viscid pumice]

so obv skill issue

[viscid pumice]

if u r free to play then yes

if not go HR, i get 2-5k gold

[coarse sequoia]

apparently, 3 identical warlocks with weird ass names each pushed me one after the other, i have seen this simba dude like a dozen times do this shit

[stone panther]

or even just PvE water, easy 3-10k per round. But it requires market so no bueno for f2p as he is stuck with vendoring

[lavish shoal]

anyone know why i cant see my own death cam

[viscid pumice]

3-10k pve? u mean crab shell?

[lavish shoal]

pressing on the button and just doesnt work

[coarse sequoia]

they need to get a handle on this shit, and start giving kits back when you die to these obvious cheaters

they didnt even loot me, the last dude just saved the other two's kits

[stone panther]

crab shells, torn sail, cloth, pearls, purp gems (purp diamond are still like 500 a pop),, urchin spines, inkt sacks, etc. BLue plates, etc. Lots and lots of sellables to make a quick buck in a quick loot pattern across the map. Even only finding like 1-2 of them per round. I havent checked in a few days, but even tar was like 300 a piece and you can get 9-10 of them every round without breaking a sweat.

and then there is the like 5-9 tidestone you can also often get

[civic pewter]

Ohh is there any good tips you would give to someone who’s gonna be grinding only this game mode the squires to riches

At least until i put money in DnD

[timber imp]

Why not play norms

[civic pewter]

Read the conversation above

[hardy stump]

its pointless if you can't sell other peoples kits and ore

[timber imp]

I guess it's okay but people go to S2R for fights mainly you prob gonna die a lot. Unless you rat as a solo.

[civic pewter]

why would i die? I never met anyone in three games and the mobs aren’t that strong in the first floor

I play solo

[timber imp]

It's a team mode and 3 people could rush and kill you.

Not ideal for peaceful farming

[civic pewter]

im free to play

most rewards in the F2P dungeons are either hard to get = boss or takes more time with 2nd floor

and im not good enough for boss and in the 2nd floor i never got anything legendary

First games or squires to Riches i got legendaries

[hardy stump]

going down a floor will always net you most wealth, frozen hell gold piles in labirynth or fake throne are great for farming gold

[stone panther]

throne is goated for farming. labyrinth is a bit rough if you are not to solid fighting demon/wendy yet.
throne is easy cheese on the stairs

[civic pewter]

how much gold are we talking abt?

[hardy stump]

thousand or so per run on pve, more than that on normals and StR

[wise notch]

about 900 (jk idk)

[civic pewter]

can you get stuff as well, ive been there once but didn’t get any legendary stuff or maybe legendary is only looted from boss?

[civic pewter]

Apparently u were close

[wise notch]

i was?

oh wow

[civic pewter]

Bro above u said thousand

[wise notch]

i said 900

[tribal zodiac]

PvE is 1k-1600 per run (if treasure hoard and out.)
I always suggest newbies go HR, stick near exit module and go out. (you legit can be +5k per module)

[wise notch]

that isn’t 1k

[civic pewter]

that why i said close

[wise notch]

oh

[civic pewter]

Once again my broke ass is free to play

[tribal zodiac]

ooh shit, didnt notice that.

[civic pewter]

nah i blame myself for not having HR yet

[tribal zodiac]

Go for it somehow, F2P is waste of time/possibilities:))

[stone panther]

why do you need tons of gold on f2p though? bandies and potions only cost so much. Or can they actually use the market to buy stuff?

[civic pewter]

idk if i want to put money in a game i have played less than a week

[civic pewter]

It’s to buy stuff on the market yeah

even the rare blue gear i use is already expensive so ill need more gold if i want legendary or higher gear

and it’s to use in PVE so there no gear restrictions

[hardy stump]

on StR and norms legos drop reliably from piles and high value chests on lower floors

[eternal whale]

hey random question but if i load into a game and get dc'ed straight away and lose all my gear because my body didnt load in is there a way to report it and get my stuff back?

[stone panther]

no

[civic pewter]

Ill try to find piles then, are there any boss worth farming for gear?

[golden forge]

Boys a question what the fuck do i do to dodge orb attack of ghost king i am jump crouching looking up in the middle in my hit range with a ls and still get hit by it like 80% of time

[civic pewter]

Bro is that a Na-zi owl?

[sturdy coral]

jump as he shoots it and crouch+ look down it’ll sail over ur head

[golden forge]

uh im so lost i keep doin that or at least i think i do

[hardy stump]

no if you can't play HR

[civic pewter]

HR BE GATEKEEPING FK

[subtle heart]

is arena up to epic gear?

or did they change it to legendary

[lethal badger]

Epic!

[subtle heart]

thank you

[gleaming condor]

is barb bad in whites ? I feel like there are too many cases when I get mele-fisted before I can finish 1 swing of my Bardiche

even if I land my 1st swing it takes more like 3 to kill them, and by the time I'm swinging 2nd time they are already knifing my face to death

[lucid ridge]

I just died in PVE does the goblin not give me my stuff back? I had legendary stuff I wanted to fight the boss 😭

[sinful gull]

after the match is closed...might take a few min

[hardy stump]

you're playing a glorified demo and are susprised there are great things beyond that

[sturdy coral]

If you do it with the right timing he will shoot the orbs above you. kind of hard to explain but it’s a trick used for ghost king for a long time, so any YouTube video should have this

[golden forge]

yeah watched like tons of them at this point and it looks so easy i try to do exactly this and it does not work most of the time

[sturdy coral]

Are you like right on top of him while doing this? I find it easier to space a little away

[golden forge]

im like 1-2 m away

more 2 m

[sturdy coral]

no should definitely work then. I usually use the audio cue to time it

[neat jungle]

Is there still HR PvE mode if so how do i get to it?

[hardy stump]

no, no one played it and it was removed

[neat jungle]

Ah ok. Thank you for quick response.

[surreal terrace]

I jump and turn around and look down if that helps you

[stone panther]

I swear they made it suck on purpose to kill it. It was so horribly done

[hardy stump]

its sole purpose was to have a learning place for people venturing into HR first time without being run down by players, turns out PvE players never wanted a challenging game mode with actual risk factor despite what they were saying for months prior

[stone panther]

it was more risky than HR was. Because of the stupid circle you only had 3 portals at final. And because you could not kill other people trying to steal your portal, you had to hope you were either lucky enough to hear a random portal pop up (which was generally ok in solo, but hell in trio because it needed to happen trice). Or to spawn in a near empty server so you'd be alone.
lost like 5 good kits when rushing with 3-4 different teams for the final portal in inferno. Not because of losing a fight with mobs, but lack of exits.

it was just horrible game design. Full risk, for blue reward.

[night citrus]

can you get artifacts from mystic gem room?

[sturdy coral]

unconfirmed, if so it would come from pile

[night citrus]

ok ty

[brazen sluice]

anybody know a good cleric build

[plain marlin]

a good cleric only needs to know meeka fista

[stone panther]

you spammed that shit in like 4 channels in 3 minutes. Try barb

[plain marlin]

if i am bad at the game, but i go into arena with ranger or wizard and just spam missiles and arrows can I win?

[tender topaz]

I love rekless barb 2tapping me when im 160hp with 60% pdr

[sturdy coral]

sounds like it’s doing its job and you didn’t do yours 🤯

[tender topaz]

there is nothing to do but play ranges class

[sturdy coral]

pop the proc bro any hit procs it

like boc

[tender topaz]

i have a magic staff

and im in the water

[sturdy coral]

160 hp 60% pdr … staff…

yea you fucked up there ngl

[tender topaz]

platelock

nah

[sturdy coral]

water even easier lol swing slower

[flat granite]

If you leave a spell slot open you can parry and riposte! Mega satisfying especially against barbs

[tender topaz]

barb just deals 70% hp in one attack

[sturdy coral]

when he stacks both abilities and domes you, yes

[naive socket]

Does anyone know if increased duration stat affects longevity of brewmaster cleric buff ?

[tender topaz]

he doesnt even have to dome you

and hes in fucking blues

[sturdy coral]

damn it really is getting worse lmfaoooo

[tender topaz]

the worst part is that even if you block the reckless the barb still has the advantage in melee on even gear vs any class

[plain marlin]

i take default barb, w key and left click and it wins too many fights

[hollow stirrup]

where do u get gold?

like the ore

[plain marlin]

if you kill troll and cyclops it opens a secret tunnel to gold

[hollow stirrup]

oh. im never getting that then lol

i havent killed either of em because i hate goblin caves

im a frost mountain enjoyer

[plain marlin]

i dont blame you, cave troll is definitely a depressing place to hang out

[hollow stirrup]

i remember when gold was in ruins all the timee

how many rogues fought for that cave was funny

[plain marlin]

if i remember you might, be able to get gold from ruins golem in hr

[hollow stirrup]

mm okay i can def do that one

im just not good at rushing bosses enough for troll and cyclops plus pvp

[wary anchor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/699983/7-days-a-week-arena

[hollow stirrup]

how long are seasons in this game? is this one gonne end soon?

[wary anchor]

Please go upvote this suggestion

around 3-5 mo

[ocean vale]

anyone else playing norm lobbies and theres no one else in the lobby?

[wary anchor]

ngl inflation makes normals even more pointless

[golden forge]

ruins looks like that no?

[golden forge]

its just peaceful to boss

[wary anchor]

to what end tho no artifact

[ocean vale]

every map ive been on theres nobody other than another team sometimes

[elfin fern]

Small storage, pelt fabric or ore, gain momentum for later hr

[wary anchor]

idk about this meta i like pauls work but idk if its there yet inflation is bad and maps are dead SDF has some mistakes still showing im sure itll get cleaned up sooon

7 days a week arena needs to happen to keep players playing instead of rage quitting when the dungeon isnt working out

also alot of people including myself work a full time job and im only off on monday and tuesday every week i never get to enjoy a full session of arena

imagine if league COD was like sorry guys multiplayer is only on fri sat and sun now i stg IM is CCP xD

[subtle heart]

Why can’t I duck under spectral knight’s phase attack wtf

[wary anchor]

its a jump crouch

timed just right

you can parrry mid jump too

[subtle heart]

Doesn’t it depend on how high his sword is?

[wary anchor]

yes rather itll be a top swing first or bottom swing first depending on where his sword swing starts

[subtle heart]

Line if it’s high you have to duck

[wide crater]

best way to get money ?

[wary anchor]

RMT

jk

[wide crater]

RMT?

[wary anchor]

i was jk

go boss

hit a pile

[subtle heart]

His sword was above his head and I ducked and looked down just to get one shot I haven’t even been one shotted by him in a while I guess I just presented my head to be hit

[wary anchor]

i stg the lag on his phase kills you some times bc that happens to me or i get the parry while jumping even tho it shouldve been a dodge

i did a stream where i farmed SK for 12 hours straight and trust i ran into bs

i just went into HR with Catice on accident lol and wiped the dungeon what a sword

[clear atlas]

honestly, the worst feeling is KNOWING and hearing you blocked or parried a hit with it still hitting you anyway due to wonky hitboxes despite impact power of said shield being more than enough for the weapon, or the parry being a parry that should void the hits dmg to begin with.

[vestal glade]

why did i die to a squire demonlock as a fully geared palladin cleric hitting every shot but him taking all of it

how is it balanced

[night citrus]

if his sword is pointed up is a crouch then jump. If his sword is pointed down its a jump then crouch

[crimson lava]

can anyone help me ikeep ketting hvci error when starting game but my windows idk prob outstaded cant enable it

[indigo ginkgo]

💡 How about we borrow from another popular game. The top 3 ranked people in each class get a special halo, and if killed in PvP maps, the killer gets a bonus reward of a bounty of gold?

[civic pewter]

that not at all how the game sells it

but it sure does feels like that

is luck potion worth while farming piles of gold?

[sturdy coral]

a content creator last wipe did a lot of testing and found luck was not worth on piles. unknown if it’s been fixed since then

[civic pewter]

meaning fortune teller is effectively useless

they made it realist

[sturdy coral]

well no lol luck does work for monster and chest drops

[civic pewter]

so if ur farming boss luck potion is working

[sturdy coral]

to some extent, at least, even if nobody’s able to reverse engineering

[civic pewter]

ohh

[subtle heart]

No need to look down during crouch?

[civic pewter]

how much should i buy tho for one run?

[sturdy coral]

1-2 pots, u only need to chug another if u low roll the first

It doesn’t stack it overrides

[civic pewter]

ohh i see it just reset the timer thanks for the info bro !

[sturdy coral]

U got it boss 👍 👍

[clear atlas]

man.. I love fighting 100 halberd users, so fun losing half my hp after parrying their hit 🙂

[warm ingot]

It doesnt sell anything its free

[civic pewter]

we're talking abt the Legendary Status

[stoic ridge]

Since when in the actual hell can skeleton archers hit shots while strafing?

[sturdy coral]

that’s a Faustian bud he moonwalkin fadeaway shooting

[stoic ridge]

No it wasnt a faustian

It shot ahead of me

[sturdy coral]

oh idk then

[stoic ridge]

Irritating way to die lmao

[sturdy coral]

I’ve only seen it get weird w the kobolds doing their dance but also shooting at me

[stoic ridge]

Kobolds I understand

[fiery sigil]

hi guys im new, i have a question: when i leave the spectral knight room does his health reset?

[jade depot]

Yeah the boss health resets if there is no one in the room

[viscid lark]

wonder why this games dying got a druid sitting in the key room on water map drinking breathing potions just camping mfs just love killing the playerbase