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silent spruce
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you can still have that with a balanced faustain design ?

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casual players would have more fun if faustain wasnt just you get w m1ed by a fighter

opal hill
pallid hemlock
fossil sun
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your argument is: "faustian is too weak, spawning in as a lvl1 mob should mean you can kill a full plate fighter with full hp" like no that would just be cancer cause there's barely a reward for the player.

rapid vapor
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i'm gonna be real with you, you don't know how to play faustian creatures well yet

silent spruce
silent spruce
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is that what you're saying

pallid hemlock
empty mauve
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2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.

fossil sun
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if you know how to move around somewhat well and pick your opportunities to strike it's not as miserable as you say it is

silent spruce
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you cant chase anyone and you cant flee at all

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as soon as someone gets near you its either they die because they're terrible or you die

fossil sun
pallid hemlock
next epoch
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this guy really expects to win a 1v1 as a faustian after you kill him as a player or somethin?

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this has either got to be rage bait or trolling

silent spruce
fossil sun
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with the "made in abyss fan" bio i'm 100% convinced they're serious

silent spruce
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that has nothing to do with this conversation

fossil sun
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stereotypes are earned not given champ

pallid hemlock
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half-baked gimmickry tends to be shit, idk what to tell you

silent spruce
fossil sun
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W grammar

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or spelling ig you'd say

silent spruce
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what a good way to prove ur point

fossil sun
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holy nerd

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no one cares enough to actually try to debate you

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this isn't the debate team buddy

silent spruce
fossil sun
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you're just missing the whole point of the mechanic as a whole and you're expecting too much of it. Also a skill issue I'm sorry to tell ya

silent spruce
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saying skill issues leads to nowhere

fossil sun
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didn't you say they can just w key?

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all of a sudden killing a faustian requires some amount of skill

silent spruce
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if try blocking or just whiff 80 hits like some ppl do that doesnt really matter

silent spruce
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does that mean faustain is overpowered no

fossil sun
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now the question becomes just how much skill is needed, where you're severely overestimating the ability of the avergae joe

silent spruce
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that really doesnt mean anything

fossil sun
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sure bud

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all your arguments are just logical fallacies stapled together, you're contradicting yourself in every one of them

silent spruce
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what im expecting is that if a caster gets ambushed that you'd be able to kill them and not have them statcheck you and that you'd be able to reasonably get near ppl without being w m1ed

blazing escarp
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anybody think rings are hard to craft specifically the ones that require life leaf?

silent spruce
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what have i said that contradicts myself

rapid vapor
half quarry
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does anybody know if arena will be only in epic gear or legendary?

silent spruce
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you cant really make ppl lose stuff

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beside killing them

fossil sun
# silent spruce when

"they can just w key" while also saying "if they die to faustian they're bad" a bad player could easily w key and kill them if that were the case. that's where movement, spacing and choosing when to strike comes into play, the department you're obv lacking in.

edgy sable
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faustian high roller mobs was good times

silent spruce
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the point of faustain is to be able to get revenge on people

pallid hemlock
proud marten
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hi guys arena will be purples ?

silent spruce
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the only way to get revenge on people is killing them

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mildly damaging them and making them use meds is just a mild inconveniance doesnt really achieve anything

fossil sun
silent spruce
reef thicket
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i did all his quest but i can't craft spec bags???

silent spruce
rapid vapor
# silent spruce beside killing them

technically you cant make them lose stuff if they have goblin merchant leveled, also the way i do my daily dealmaker quests is the antithesis of the "revenge" point. i go in naked, break stuff, kill myself with hellfire and find randoms to harass. who am i avenging? myself?

fossil sun
silent spruce
fossil sun
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all the ultimatums seem to have to be ABSOLUTES in your mind

proud marten
rapid vapor
silent spruce
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all i want is to be able to put up somewhat of a fight if i play properly and not have 80% of matchups being just you get facetanked

reef thicket
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how to make spec bag?

fossil sun
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isn't annoying the sh out of someone as a goblin while they're trying to kill other mobs/fighting a player a kind of revenge? you're undoubtedly causing them to rage while at the same time having fun. and if u dont find running around as a goblin and smacking fun ppl idk what to tell u

silent spruce
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and not go like oh i got this mob welp time to not even bother because now i have to walk for half the match to find someone because for some reason 50% movespeed is enjoyable when you dont even know where they are

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you should get ressources that tell you where ppl are that way you're able to utilize the dungeon to its strenght and ambush/trick people

fossil sun
silent spruce
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80% of my faustain gameplay is litteraly just me walking around because i cant find anyone

silent spruce
wraith sigil
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No wrokshop?

fossil sun
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again im telling you these are YOUR experiences that doesnt mean its an objective truth

edgy sable
misty swallow
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do double boss rooms spawn artifacts

silent spruce
fossil sun
silent spruce
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would probably be a bit too strong but i honestly think we should atleast have every module where a player is in be highlighted on the map

winged echo
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whats the reason spectral fabric is twice cheaper than troll pelt? right now ?

silent spruce
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the biggest issues with faustain is the mob balancing being awful and the fact you have 0 intel on anyone

silent spruce
fossil sun
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I usually go towards the module in which I died in search of the player that killed me and 90% of the time I end up finding another player in the 3rd or 4th module I enter.

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(1-2 minutes)

silent spruce
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except 80% of the time i spawn at like the other side of the map and by the time i get there the guy is gone

empty mauve
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@zinc sparrow 2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.

silent spruce
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and dont get me started on dying late

fossil sun
silent spruce
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where you just spend the last 6 minutes trying to find someone just for everyone to have went red or blue

edgy sable
glacial sedge
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So arena got delayed again?

silent spruce
winged echo
fossil sun
velvet jetty
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Pls guys can someone explain me how to unlock the marketplace ty so much

silent spruce
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that shouldnt be an outcome thats possible at all

fossil sun
fossil sun
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literally almost every time I do faustian

velvet jetty
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pls guyss

edgy sable
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pls guys

fossil sun
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according to your own logic that negates your entire argument, I'm just the other end of the stick

reef thicket
silent spruce
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there shouldnt be multiple end of that stick

fossil sun
civic kayak
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are you allowed to trade outside og game because the maret post doesnt stop wehn you scroll up its really annoying

edgy sable
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they should give faustian the map genie so it can see where quest locations are

silent spruce
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you should be able to play the gamemode and not be unlucky and have nothing to do

fossil sun
silent spruce
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thats like if you could have a random chance of the game giving you absolutely nothing to do

silent spruce
velvet jetty
fossil sun
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yeah, cause I've never heard anyone complain as much as you about it

silent spruce
silent spruce
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its something they try once then immediatly ditch after spending 5 minute finding someone just to get ranged spam or w m1ed

velvet jetty
fossil sun
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so? whenever it's a point of discussion I never see ppl complaining

fossil sun
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all the information is right there in the game

silent spruce
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finding a faustain mob is something that happens to me like every 10 game if im lucky

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its genuinly such an incredibly rare sight to see

bright wolf
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i see it all the time in norms

fossil sun
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again, when it's a point of discussion (ppl sharing their experiences with the mechanic)

bright wolf
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100% every game

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that i play

silent spruce
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i've played like 50 game in the past week and i've found a staggering 0 faustain players

burnt leaf
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Where do you get demon blood specifically?

fossil sun
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this guy can just NOT fathom nuance and differentiate between objective truths and subjective experiences

bright wolf
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from any demon mob in inferno

silent spruce
real quiver
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does anyone know what we will be able to bring in for arena

silent spruce
fossil sun
next epoch
rich flame
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does the rubysilver halberd give any extra stats like debuff or something?

fossil sun
real quiver
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does anyone know what we will be able to bring in for arena

silent spruce
fossil sun
silent spruce
fossil sun
fossil sun
silent spruce
fossil sun
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but you're talking as if everything you say is undeniable truth

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a telltale sign of low intelligence I might add

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a failure to discern subjectivity from universal reality

pallid hemlock
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aint no way were still talking about faustain viability

wide elk
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Can you bring any stuff to arena this season? even not looted and unique ?

silent spruce
real quiver
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does anyone know what we will be able to bring in for arena

real quiver
wide elk
silent spruce
real quiver
wide elk
pallid hemlock
opal hill
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hey, @fossil sun can you help me list my unique stuff? im sorta new to the game and i dont know whats hot on the market

opal hill
wide elk
burnt leaf
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Does magic dmg bonus and +1 additional magic dmg work on rogue poison?

fossil sun
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yes

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on poisoned weapon

burnt leaf
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Yeah word ty

fossil sun
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np

echo sparrow
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is there a location on inferno for golden key?

surreal basalt
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anyone know if arena gonna be up to epic still? or will it bump up to legendary?

tall girder
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i have such bad gear fear. its almost crippling

empty mauve
keen mauve
fringe garnet
empty mauve
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@zinc sparrow 2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.

night leaf
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3 weeks ssf ,,atleast 3 pages of slots available for selling

empty mauve
honest cedar
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The current meta with you range soft boys, constantly hugging doors and never pushing.

  • you're the problem with the game
loud fiber
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I'm so glad I hoarded quest items lol. Some of these are thousands and thousands a peice.

reef thicket
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how much health is 1 vig?

acoustic kiln
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add paladin

edgy sable
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Release the Map Genie!

nimble surge
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Does anyone know what gear grade arena is going to be?

deep helm
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Gold Rapier
+3.1% HS Dmg Bonus
+21 Luck
+1.6% Act Spd
+12 Ad Armor Rtng
How much is it worth

next epoch
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6700 gold

deep helm
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actually?

spice nymph
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is expressman bugged? my unique morning star didnt get sent thru to the lobby

reef thicket
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it take time

glass musk
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is frostlight gear comming out this week?

deep helm
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i remember when froststone was rare and there wouldnt be more than a page of it and it sold for 3k a stack

tropic brook
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sdf deserves the 3/5 compromise

deep helm
runic harness
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Are grimmies out yet to be craftable?

glass musk
honest cedar
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So this Range and Ranger meta is bullshtttt

  • just waiting at doors or absolutely losing to duo range classes

    • super fun
cyan coral
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How do you get tears of the volcano?

deep helm
timid shuttle
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Eww continous dungeons still a thing? killed a barb and soon as I go to pop a potion, a fighter shoots me from a broken door. messages me and tells me he just spawned in. Ggs to that guy for sure, but the fact the people can literally spawn in right after you, where you just spawned from is egregious. Thats gotta change, shits ass when its not done right.

small inlet
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Do we know if arena is going to be self found minted or you can use anything from the market?

solid plaza
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how has market been so far?

deep helm
night leaf
solid plaza
deep helm
# solid plaza whys that? im just curious i cant get on til later

well most items are pretty full so people have been either under cutting like crazy driving prices really low or buying up items and leaving them way too high. Bunch of everything, bunch of trash, its a freewill market and with the grinders now a days, if u need an item u can get it

timid shuttle
solid plaza
torpid mason
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Someones trying to larp with shit that don't even exist

solid plaza
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turbo larper 😭

torpid mason
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😭

timid shuttle
molten compass
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howcome I sold something for 1k but it's might be worth more like 1.1k? how to know?? am I scammed??

solid plaza
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i just found it funny

torpid mason
solid plaza
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hes rage baiting

timid shuttle
timid shuttle
torpid mason
timid shuttle
dusky marsh
night leaf
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fck liars

reef thicket
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guy i did all leathersmith quest bu i can't cratf spec bags

dusky marsh
fervent anvil
reef thicket
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wait?

dusky marsh
fervent anvil
lethal solstice
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hey guys so im selling the crown of the midnight stag and i already have the sale for 20k but i dont have the inventory space to collect it, how can i get around this?

reef thicket
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they had quest over time?

fervent anvil
lethal solstice
fervent anvil
dusky marsh
# reef thicket how much health is 1 vig?

depends on your vigor count. i think you might get more than 1hp per vig until you hit 15. probably less than 1hp after hitting 40 vig. i dont claim tto be precise on this one tho. many other attributes work like this.

candid phoenix
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Anyone know if the "Post Express" page on expressman is just for twitch drops?

dusky marsh
zinc quarry
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does anyone know if bladehand drops artifacts? or what artifacts?

candid phoenix
fading solstice
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Any news on arena?

empty mauve
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2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.

dusky marsh
smoky drum
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how do I get 75 rep with armourer if i did all his quests got me to 50?

candid phoenix
brazen wigeon
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is longsword on fighter a bit to strong right now or am i just a soy

gentle terrace
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fire Colossus impossible now gg

agile timber
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ls fighter has been nerfed to the ground tbh indirectly at least

brazen wigeon
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and mind you im playing reckless attack with two hander and axe specialization and i still barely deal damege

agile timber
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true but the other weapons having riposte mechanics puts ls into the mid tier as far as weapons anyways imo yeah the reach is nice but the speed isnt worth it any more

brazen wigeon
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longsword u get 2 attacks for just one block

fast dagger
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Has anyone else ran into this 100 mag power bonus warlock shit????
just died to a CoP and a Dark bolt with 150hp. full legendary kit gone and purple rings šŸ™

brazen wigeon
fast dagger
brazen wigeon
sonic lily
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Did they get rid of the + all atributes stats?

tacit tangle
cloud cairn
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anyone know what catice is worth

regal light
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ay dog matching

stable urchin
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balance in the game still feels like ass, if you are any melee class against any magic class, its a run around fest, or its just get absolutely smoked When they can fire fireballs faster than i can shoot arrows than its basically a lost cause

hollow hatch
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THE FACT I QUE UP WITH A ROUGE THAT JUST HIDES AND RUNS NO HELP JUST PLAY SOLO!!! ADD BACK WHERE YOU CANT QUE TROS UNLESS YOU HAVE A FULL TEAM SHITS ASSSSSSS

brazen pike
honest flare
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no ones running gear???

deep helm
brazen pike
pallid hemlock
deep helm
gusty sentinel
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curses still missing when people duck even when aiming at feet the spaghetti code is unreal

deep helm
lusty olive
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Make the market available on every character after unlocking it on once. Stops nothing and is tedious to switch. Think shared stash should be only type of stash but can see reasons for not

lusty olive
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Personally i rather have just the shared stashes instead of needing to swap to check for stuff lol

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also auto sort...but i saw how long the quiver took so not looking great

deep helm
lusty olive
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im aware been playing off and on since pt3 i think

deep helm
pallid hemlock
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Rework all maps so bosses can leave their modules
once a boss fight starts, it doesn't end until you escape, die, or kill the boss
and then add player controlled bosses

floral thunder
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does barbs buff duration effect teammates with war cry or is it based on their buff duration?

deep helm
compact drift
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Yo guys is there a cap for headshot damage?

pallid hemlock
lusty olive
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not only could they not get that to work ever, but why lmao

floral thunder
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so cooldown for support barb

gusty sentinel
pallid hemlock
deep helm
deep helm
pallid hemlock
deep helm
pallid hemlock
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best i can do is 4

deep helm
pallid hemlock
deep helm
wooden breach
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hello guys, is there a way to see better in the game? cause cant manage to see the mob on the ground for not aggro multiple of them

sonic lily
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Does luck not effect weapons unless they're out

brazen pike
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use torches when necessary

wooden breach
deep helm
deep helm
sonic lily
deep helm
deep helm
pallid hemlock
wooden breach
wooden breach
brazen pike
deep helm
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id say bring back old luck but with how loot pools are and how common golds and uniques are, idk anymore

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like i dont think if i combine my 3 seasons and 3 play tests, i have more golds in this one season than all of them

sonic lily
brazen wigeon
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just make it so luck slightly increases chance to find higher grade items but instead has chance depending on luck to give an extra item from anything you loot cause find uniques and golds isnt hard anymore

sonic lily
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cus its a lyre with 52 luck on it

brazen pike
brazen wigeon
deep helm
sonic lily
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Man trying to price this stuff is confusing

brazen wigeon
deep helm
brazen wigeon
deep helm
midnight salmon
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what are the warped adamantine shackles from the fire collosus used for? Just sold one for 10k gold, I don't know their use tho

lean frost
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do you lose your gear if you die in pve mode?

strong trench
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Arena tomorrow will be SSF epic? or what?

lean frost
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when?

brazen wigeon
keen mauve
brittle barn
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Yall think theyre ever gonna do something ab the dumb asf insta redding

brazen pike
brittle barn
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Feels like something that shouldve been gone aggggges ago. Just had a 3rd party loot my kill while i was healing and insta run to the red

brazen pike
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which gives me the impression it's teasing red gates

brittle barn
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Like what a lame mechanic

glad estuary
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they should remove east and west servers to make a central server in like calorado or something

woeful bluff
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Is arena crafted or ssf only? Do you lose your gear?

hollow hatch
glad estuary
nocturne hound
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WTF is HEAD OF THE MIDNIGHT STAG

mint ether
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Can anyone help me find the 'Treasure Room' location? I went to the 2nd floor of ruins and looted the treasure pile but it must be a different room.

hollow hatch
honest cedar
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It's really fun to gear up your rogue, just to get 3 tapped by a ranger on the other side of the map

  • IronMace, your game design is REALLY shittttty
mint ether
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I have not seen 1 ranger yet lol

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in solos

glad estuary
wise turret
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have IM given any info on arena? SSF or na?

granite hamlet
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at range

honest cedar
granite hamlet
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like literally just landmine them on a door or something if you have ambush you outspeed and if ur not running hide in solos ur throwing

honest cedar
brazen pike
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glass cannon gets shattered, more at 8

warm kraken
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its harder to get hit by a ranger from distance than not

granite hamlet
honest cedar
granite hamlet
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Just get better at dealing with range it’s not that hard to counter vro lock in

rough rune
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Does wyvern drop viola

hollow hatch
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i dont play west at all

brazen pike
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viola is on warlord iirc

tame elbow
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how to get punch and bellow please for the quest

tulip arch
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Constantly pre firing right at the head every time i peak or shooting me from out of render šŸ„€

brazen pike
tulip arch
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Although its fun to watch teams without a ranger run straight to another team while im spectating

stark wren
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This might be a little different but what is there was a camp fire in the transition areas as you go down that you couid sit at after you give your gear to the expressman

inland harbor
rapid vapor
glad estuary
tulip arch
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Not even half a second reaction time to aim ever

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Its one thing to hold a spot them shoot when you see a slight but of movement

naive coral
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Ban all handouts

tulip arch
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Also wish they implemented something into normal or high roller dividing the classes into seperate groups such as ranged and melee so you cant have a ranger and a wizard on a duo

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Even tho that wouldnt really work since you could have melee builds

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Still so fun fighting a sorcerer ranger combo pikahappy

hollow hatch
naive coral
hollow hatch
hollow hatch
tulip arch
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If you want low ping just move into their server rooms and hide in the walls šŸ‘šŸ»

naive coral
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Ragebaiting isnt gonna work brother best of luck in ur games tonight

grand beacon
hollow hatch
keen sedge
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I keep seeing people saying that arena will be purple rarity only tommrow. Does anyone know if there is merit to people saying that or are they just guessing?

near kettle
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How do I get more black roses?

warm kraken
terse plaza
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Ring and pendant recipes need to be adjusted. 200 gold for the worst ring available is ridiculous. Stick with the plan to devalue gear. All gear.

spark quest
near kettle
spark quest
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Fr? If so that’s tragic I’ll be one short

fringe garnet
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he'll still be around

near kettle
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I gave his butt a rose yesterday and today it said 0/3

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To late today 😔😔😔😔

charred veldt
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wtf people selling broken glasses for 4.6k

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There is no way bro

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You are telling me 33% chance from imp is TWICE as expensive as 10% drop chance from a BOSS?

tawny vine
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Sup

charred veldt
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Hell nah what is this economy

tawny vine
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Its dusted to death

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Why is bard like the only buff and debuff class?

lilac venture
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For arena it’s going to be purple highest gear right?

tawny vine
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Wouldn't it make sense for the other classes to have some buff/debuff stuff

inland harbor
tawny vine
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Yeah but every magical class should have something ya know?

obsidian linden
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Does anyone know how the veteran instinct perk works like what does "entering combat" mean exactly, do I have to take dmg then i get the buffs?

tawny vine
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Its just not balanced because Bard has like everything

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If you spread it out a bit more then hell the other classes might be viable in certain comps

obsidian linden
tawny vine
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Just saying its weird its all on one class.

inland harbor
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well its the jackal of all traits

tawny vine
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That just doesn't work in a game like this.

inland harbor
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druid is a jackal of all traits and sorcerer too

tawny vine
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Its like a necessary win condition to have a bard.

inland harbor
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druid is so much nerfed that i rarely ever see one, which is super nice

tawny vine
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They dont do much spell wise to boost teammates.

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They only have passives that are very small buffs.

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Meanwhile bard has huge buffs.

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That can stack.

inland harbor
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its his class

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its like saying well wizard is the only one with fireball

tawny vine
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Thats cool he has them right but like wizard, sorcerer, and druid should have something to effect teammates spell wise.

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Druid has healing which fair.

inland harbor
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wizard has 3 spells

tawny vine
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But wizard and sorcerer really arent doing much for the team

twilit vortex
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wizard has insane buffs for teammates by the way

tawny vine
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Damage sure. But team buffs snd debuffs no

inland harbor
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ye you are completly clueless mike

twilit vortex
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one of the strongest damage buffs in ignite

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haste gives movement speed and action speed

tawny vine
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1 sec

inland harbor
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invis is insane

twilit vortex
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10% action speed btw

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and an invis

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what are we smoking

inland harbor
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and than there is cleric, which is like only buffs

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and heals

tawny vine
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Oh nvm wizard is solid

inland harbor
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xd

tawny vine
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Yeah but bard still feels too opressive

twilit vortex
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sorcerer is the only one and not every caster class needs to also be a support your arguement is baseless

#

bard is not opressive its not even run in many comps

#

you can say its s tier for sure

#

but cleric is way way better for trios

#

and its genuinely not even close

#

not to mention cleric also wins out in melee against every class in the game when they have smite up

tawny vine
#

+2 to every stat, extra damage, extra action speed, extra movement, dps is good. I dunno.

twilit vortex
#

you cant give that to teammates

#

the bard buffs only himself with his main buffs

tawny vine
#

Doesn't matter they all stack on yourself

#

Thats crazy

inland harbor
#

mike have you playied the game before?

twilit vortex
#

bard loses in melee to fighters, barbarians, clerics and good rouges

tawny vine
twilit vortex
#

what do you mean

#

are you theory crafting it being broken or do you actually have high level experience

tawny vine
#

Naw they don't. They can do magic with a shield and a rondel

#

Not even joking.

twilit vortex
#

alright put down the edibles im out of here

inland harbor
#

xd

graceful berry
#

ironmace def needs to turn down the stuff u get from raids

tawny vine
#

They can kite, they can block, they can do damage, they can nerf, they can buff themselves and their teammates. They can go invisible. They can use range weapons. They are oppressive

tawny vine
#

They can instant open doors. They can attack buff and debuff through walls and floors (this is huge) plus insane action speed.

#

Its broken.

dawn monolith
#

Bro missed there release clearly. Trust me this bard is NOTHING compared to start.

It's strong but balanced

#

(No I don't play bard)

pallid hemlock
tawny vine
#

They need nerfs

inland harbor
#

w ragebait

pallid hemlock
#

yes its broken, but as snowman said, its balanced. sorc is broken in most ways, but hes balanced with baby damage

tawny vine
#

Naw im serious

inland harbor
#

read the patch notes

tawny vine
#

Naw sorcerer needs buffs

inland harbor
#

xd

tawny vine
#

Way too fragile.

inland harbor
#

bro is a professional ragebaiter

pallid hemlock
#

this is just how boof and goofer works. some classes get entirely goof mechanics that dont fit and are exclusive to their class. this is the method. this is boof and goofer

dawn monolith
tawny vine
#

Im not joking. All they have is that lighting dash on a major cool down. They take a hot minute to merge their spells but they are 2 tapped the moment you get in on them. Hell or if you hit them with a breeze they die.

frank parcel
#

you have basicly an instant kill combo

tawny vine
#

They need buffs .

pallid hemlock
#

they also flaot you in air, freeze you in place, block doors....

inland harbor
frank parcel
#

levitate> frost ligning > elebolt,

#

u have door blocker for escape and traps and splitting an enemy team

gusty remnant
#

how much is a chest worth rn

tawny vine
#

Im serious they need buffs

keen sedge
#

Has anyone tested if movement speed is actually real? I have been running 310ms and have been getting run down by barbs with 275-280ms without getting hit by anything

frank parcel
#

you have Line of sight aoe (storm) on pillars + flame wall.

tawny vine
#

Every other magic class has buffs.

#

Sorcerer needs to be able to buff teammates

inland harbor
pallid hemlock
# tawny vine Im serious they need buffs

they need to give other classes goof mechanics to play into boof and goofer. float/freeze/doorblock counters, or those mechanics themselves. otherwise they stay having baby damage this is just how it is

gusty remnant
tawny vine
#

Also let the rogue throw his daggers lol

pallid hemlock
#

nah instead its -77 ms on 2nd jump with no action

keen gate
#

is us west actually just dead in hr

inland harbor
#

how can your lobby be dead, i have like 6 chinese guys in every lobby

tawny vine
#

Id also say take away ranged weapons from the fighter.

#

Or at the very least make it so one perk is all melee, and another is all ranged.

dawn monolith
tawny vine
#

That way it consumes 2 slots.

inland harbor
#

ni hao ma

dawn monolith
#

Your all set

#

There now your greatest asset

inland harbor
#

hell no

#

ill take their rmt money

snow bobcat
#

anyone else kinda hate HR now?

tawny vine
#

What do you think about giving ranger a perk that prevents them from triggering traps?

snow bobcat
#

feels like the hackers are out

dawn monolith
#

And the bard was down a floor. Dude heatseeked in

tranquil forge
#

dose anyone have uniqes with undead damage they would trade?

noble canyon
#

do you stack add mag with viola

hollow quail
#

i have killed so many imps and no cracked glasses D:

lavish spindle
coarse portal
snow bobcat
#

i was unkillable pre market

#

now i die every time. im deadass confused

lavish spindle
lavish spindle
brave mango
#

Time to play HR for money and join em in kitting tf out

pallid hemlock
snow bobcat
#

nah i was bis in highroller. funny how everyones aim got a whooooole lot better once the RMT incentive came

brave mango
#

Deadass havent seen anyone with good aim yet this wipe lmfao

tranquil forge
#

i need it on like arrmor or long sorwd

silk mulch
#

havent been on since the market dropped im assuming the economy is stupid ?

sonic haven
#

log in and stop assuming

#

ez

silk mulch
clear pendant
#

when are we nerfing reckless attack???????

silk mulch
#

lol

wise turret
#

have IM confirmed whether arena will be SSF or not?

midnight salmon
keen mauve
brazen pike
crystal sonnet
#

Is there any way to get Rusty Key besides golden chests and small coffers? Does the worm still drop it?

dense grove
#

i lost 3 bis kit today to barbarians

#

all 3 of them i got oneshot like oneshot

graceful berry
#

yea just kill ur game with sorcerer buffs ironmace good job

dense grove
#

sorcerer buffs?

#

he got like 40 nerfs

#

since release 100

severe coyote
#

holy shit this game isn't dead yet

clear pendant
#

and he does 100-30 anyclass with no counterplay

brazen solar
silk mulch
clear pendant
#

now the only thing who can kill a sorc is another ranged that outdps him

#

and im not talking about minmax bis sorc with agility, even a almost squire sorc works like that

pallid hemlock
valid goblet
#

i have a unique leather cap with 43 add armor rating but i dont see any being sold on the market so i cant gauge how much to sell it for... any ideas here?

warm kraken
valid goblet
fickle lake
#

Hey gamers, does increasing my "Will" increase my magical healing? Or is that a specific modifier I should go for directly?

nocturne urchin
#

guys

#

ssf is over, game is done now. afk til next wipe

pallid hemlock
dawn monolith
midnight salmon
dawn monolith
#

But it's a lesser modifier than magical healing itself

merry sable
# snow bobcat anyone else kinda hate HR now?

You mean getting rolled by orange gem kits before I can clear the module I spawn in with my goop purples? Yea that part sucks. 3rd partying a boss room because I PvP better than I can fight a boss? There’s give and take.

cyan plank
#

is the flea that ruin the game open?

scarlet quest
#

mdr and pdr just dont exist i believe that

delicate nymph
#

is anyone crashing?

mortal meadow
#

when update??? workshop when???

mystic coral
#

Is that dark and darker goblin guide app in the app store up to datem

dawn monolith
quiet sapphire
#

is arena only purples rn?

charred pebble
#

Have more Armourer quests been unlocked yet?

hardy heron
#

Hello guys, quick question for arena
If i loot with char1 an item, can i use it in arena on char2 ? Does the item disappear if i die?

feral bough
#

Heard Agility is a dead stat now. But isnt MS kinda cracked?

jagged hazel
#

in duo trios it's anw

coarse portal
jagged hazel
#

it's just better bc u will fight noob with gear now

queen canopy
#

love losing kits because cave troll can see you when your invis now.

jagged hazel
#

why ur even invis in troll room

coarse portal
#

Going invisible should automatically reset the boss to full hp anyhow

queen canopy
#

there was multiple people fighting it, i casted invis because low hp, and troll just b lines across the room as i'm leaving while invis and kills me

coarse portal
#

Sounds like a rat got squished

zinc dock
#

That's what you get for ratting

jagged hazel
#

yeah xD

zinc dock
#

šŸ˜‚

queen canopy
#

love when peoples inner rat thoughts come out. I was just helping to fight.

coarse portal
#

Helping so now youre teaming before the back stab

zinc dock
#

Things that didn't happen for 500 please

queen canopy
coarse portal
#

Oh god pve bud youll get your gear back

merry sable
zinc dock
#

šŸ€

coarse portal
#

If you leave the boss room it gets full hp. Going invisible should do the same thing. A back step is just giving you room. Not removing aggro

charred veldt
#

Ok gotta say the new pendant is crazy

jagged hazel
#

what are you talking about

charred veldt
#

13.9% headshot damage bonus

#

Should be illegal

old rune
#

( One barb alrdy have Hooked you ? that frustrating ? )

charred veldt
#

I missed the market so much

old rune
#

look lik,e so hard to land a good hook

merry sable
charred veldt
#

first day of the market opened I went from getting f*cked to wiping lobbies

stone panther
charred veldt
coarse portal
crimson frost
#

whoeveers idea it was to make the water map needs to be fired

merry sable
charred veldt
#

I'll make a icefang rogue build as soon as the weaponsmith quests drop

#

NO ONE is surviving the third hit

jagged hazel
#

gonna buy it rly fast

stone panther
merry sable
coarse portal
jagged hazel
#

if boss reset and goes back to the middle of the room he reset and get full hp

merry sable
merry sable
coarse portal
#

Water map is beautiful. But they should have added a huge island in the middle with water ways. And then smaller islands around it. Less fighting in the water

elfin current
#

I just pulled a gold coin chest and i started playing this wipe idk if i should sell it and if so for what plz help

charred veldt
#

the 5 gold ingot into 5 shining pearl quest

merry sable
charred veldt
#

The legendary rings are with gold if someone was wondering

stone panther
charred veldt
#

I honestly am not excited

merry sable
charred veldt
#

Unique ring crafting is going to turn into full gacha

#

get a good roll or die with sh!t

#

people will get gamblin addiction on ring crafting

merry sable
charred veldt
#

uhh... you will

merry sable
charred veldt
#

there are unique arcane essences

#

though EXTREMELY rare apparently, nobody sells them in bulk of 10

merry sable
charred veldt
#

look at the market

merry sable
indigo dagger
#

The ghost king now drops artifacts? Blood and what else?

charred veldt
#

When even the ghost king DIDN'T

elfin current
#

who wanna carry me

charred veldt
#

pre release alpha?

indigo dagger
#

???

charred veldt
#

bro the ghost king has always dropped artis

indigo dagger
#

What artifacts does it drop right now? It drops fulgor and blood, but what else?

charred veldt
#

DB

indigo dagger
#

only 3?

merry sable
charred veldt
#

Stinky stick (iirc)

stone panther
ancient jacinth
#

So i completed every single quest for the armourer how come i still only get poor quality gear from him in the squire ?

merry sable
ancient jacinth
#

Is it not supposed to be upgraded to common quality?

charred veldt
#

can you hit me up with the spot where you been farming those

ancient jacinth
charred veldt
#

my stash is kinda homeless

merry sable
stone panther
charred veldt
#

Ah that ok

charred veldt
stone panther
ancient jacinth
charred veldt
#

For two... the patch probably.
they always roll the patch

stone panther
#

for three, weekly quest drop

ancient jacinth
#

Im brand new to the game just 30 hours in so i have no idea whats going on thats why i am asking

charred veldt
#

And then...

#

The next f*ck up

#

I wager my gold they are going to screw with the lava boss AI again

#

And somehow make it even worse

merry sable
elfin current
merry sable
stone panther
charred veldt
#

lmao

#

fax

#

because buff duration would be huge

#

for my buffball builds

merry sable
charred veldt
#

and CDR would be too good for fighter

stone panther
uneven inlet
#

stop the teaming in HR

#

love being teamed on every single game by squires

merry sable
uneven inlet
#

uninstalling this shit game again

charred veldt
merry sable
charred veldt
#

but bossing with someone and then fighting over the loot

magic plover
#

hey what is this debuff i get when i swing weapons? is that a fatigue modifer?

charred veldt
#

should be fine

mild topaz
#

Does will increase evil magic/dark magic/true dark magic damage?

charred veldt
merry sable
mild topaz
ancient jacinth
#

What should a new player do when there is a problem of gold storage? Whch gold bag or pouches is worth to spend gold on to remove some of the problem?

charred veldt
#

let me rephrase:

#

Will gives you magical damage bonus (%), true magical is not affected

#

if it says 2, it will be 2 no matter how many % modifiers you got

#

if it says add, it will be taken into account in the damage calculation

warped oyster
#

is this game dead yet ?

merry sable
charred veldt
ancient jacinth
merry sable
charred veldt
#

They each hold 500

stone panther
#

buy the 1000 gold bags from the marketplace tho, people are dumping them currently for <700

charred veldt
#

The efficiency is really good

#

Me personally

#

If i started right now

#

I would go squire water map

mild topaz
# charred veldt let me rephrase:

I got it the first time about true damage, I was asking if will increases all types of magical damage (divine/evil etc.)except true magical

charred veldt
#

get 3k gold runs every 10 minutes

#

and buy troll pelt and wolf pelt and craft

charred veldt
charred veldt
#

which makes potions heal more overall

ancient jacinth
#

What are silver coins used for ?

charred veldt
#

or crafting blue pendants

stone panther
charred veldt
#

or... make weapons that have additional undead damage

ancient jacinth
#

Will the troll pelt drop in price over the wipe or stay similar ?

pallid yoke
#

what is arena gear limit?

charred veldt
#

and the spectral fabric rise

#

but most of the time they equalize

#

because fabric is rarer, but also people camp it less

ancient jacinth
#

ah okay

charred veldt
#

water map is best map

ancient jacinth
charred veldt
#

yes

#

legendary diamonds are going for around 500 right now

ancient jacinth
#

those will drop during the wipe right ?

charred veldt
#

Ehhh

#

I mean gems are more volatile but

#

They usually stay consistent after the first week

#

Because everyone need legendary diamonds

pallid yoke
#

what is arena gear limit?

charred veldt
#

But it's like trying to predict a market

feral bough
#

Any idea how long Valentine is staying around?

charred veldt
#

if SDF does something stupid and market crash...

stone panther
#

also, hold on to anything arena-isch, until weekends.
blue bandages, surg kits, etc. Those pump and dump during the week.

farming lifeleaf should also be rather profitable this time round, currently at 1400 per stack. I can get that in 1 round on pve, lol

lilac sedge
#

Does anyone know how much gold does a chest worth rn?

stone panther
#

100k+. No one is trading them for gold, only artifacts. If you put it on for 100 it'll be gone in seconds

violet wharf
#

and stag head?

robust cloak
#

server down?

#

bruh is a gold chest really worth 100k?? i sell it in a heart beat

charred veldt
#

you probably can get multiple artifacts worth more than that overall

#

The thing is you probably don't even have enough gold storage

#

I think my limit is 20k and I got like 3 coin bags and a dozen pouches

robust cloak
#

really?? i didnt think it went up in value that much from last season

charred veldt
#

everything is different now

stone panther
charred veldt
#

specially with chests that are more rare now apparently

radiant mortar
#

foul boots is the only blue craft that has 3 rolls instead of two, by design or bug ?

charred veldt
#

wait gotta ask, is your chest from a pile or from the valentine's vendor?

red lichen
#

Hi guys. I've heard old rusty key can be used in crypt, do you know in which location?

red lichen
robust cloak
#

you can get artifacts from valentines vendor? ive got him at 100 but only epic gear

charred veldt
#

typo
I meant chest

robust cloak
#

ahhhh i got it from the gold pile on hr

charred veldt
#

you good then

stone panther
#

valentine only gives bags (as part of the quest). last one is 3 bags. No chests afaik

charred veldt
#

whut

#

ah

robust cloak
#

we all get a free chest if you do your seasonal quest

charred veldt
#

my bad
got confused with the treasurer's last quest

#

or the huntress

#

a 1rd of my way there

stone panther
#

huntress gives a chest, but that one is still a few weeks away for the first batch of peoples. I think it's up to about 21 coins out of 30 now if someone kept up. I do expect a price dip once those start hitting the market

stone panther
charred veldt
#

btw the weaponsmith quests
you think tmrw we get the last batch?

#

so we can craft the actually good weapons?

cunning frigate
#

how are people getting ahold of unique accessories? You can't craft them and I thought you weren't able to find them in dungeons anymore

stone panther
#

old rusty key on HR can drop them

dense moon
uncut heart
#

Hey why are pestis so cheap?)?

charred veldt
cunning frigate
charred veldt
uncut heart
#

Rlly? Is warlord worlth doing then?

charred veldt
#

I think only rusty key has accesories

charred veldt
hybrid crag
#

when squires to ritches hr???

onyx vortex
#

when playing as barbarian and even some other classes I get a bug where my weapons stop working and I cant equip them at all no matter what i do takes up to a minute or two and having to sit unequip or drop the weapon to get it to work, its been on and and off but has been becoming more and more frequent almost every match now im on a very new and nice pc setup ive uninstalled and and re installed multiple times and im playing through steam #report-a-bug

charred veldt
dense moon
charred veldt
uncut heart
#

Yh and warlord, they are all the same chances i mean

charred veldt
#

He told me only 2 bosses had x3 artifact chance

#

Ghost king and wyvern

cunning frigate
#

ah okay. thank you

charred veldt
#

If it's not true go complain to him

uncut heart
#

Dam so why fulgo so exp

charred veldt
#

warlord is hard, dropchance is low

dense moon
#

Wyvern is a 1/22 drop chance for artifact, all other bosses are 1/67. that is probably why all the bows, including Pestilence, are so cheap.

uncut heart
#

Idk imma wait a week till i sell my 5 pestis till market fixes

charred veldt
#

I don't think...
Well suit yourself

stone panther
#

the fact that you have 5 pesti's kinda proves the point that they drop like candy...

uncut heart
#

Dude market is always wierd at the start

charred veldt
#

deadass

#

5 pestis

#

like bro

jagged hazel
#

u could scam so many people but ur a good guy wating

charred veldt
#

._.

uncut heart
#

Lol

charred veldt
#

Bro I can't even get one why this guy gets so many

uncut heart
#

I mean u guys will see

charred veldt
#

I run at least 15 bosses in HR every day

midnight salmon
#

are we supposed to get hotfix 109 today?

charred veldt
#

I have never seen an artifact

jagged hazel
uncut heart
charred veldt
#

I hope they fix the lava boss

#

So I can get a cinder

midnight salmon
jagged hazel
#

Let Paul cook

uncut heart
#

Like its their price, pesti is insane

charred veldt
#

And buy 3 pestis from @uncut heart

torpid osprey
#

me too, fix lava boss

uncut heart
charred veldt
#

._.

midnight salmon
charred veldt
#

what did this guy said

uncut heart
#

Just watch pesti boutta be 100k in 3 days

charred veldt
#

If I get a pesti one of these days I'll make it singlehandedly drop 20% in price

stone panther
uncut heart
#

Cool ur wierd but i dont know why i even ask here

charred veldt
#

Making a cheap ass offer and promote it everywhere

charred veldt
#

can I get one

#

🄹

#

the switch up is crazy i know

stone panther
#

I do like that stinky sticks dropped again. Can finally run a bonk cleric with smite and a stinky stick again on HR KEKW

charred veldt
#

everyone playing riposte

#

even bonk wizards, is crazy out there

uncut heart
#

I might just run 2/3 pulvs and get wipe over and done

radiant mortar
#

where do we get broken glasses from ?

uncut heart
#

Dose pulv drop from whyvern still

charred veldt
uncut heart
#

No right

radiant mortar
charred veldt
#

that's why they cheap

uncut heart
#

Dam thats ass bows aint even that good

charred veldt
#

yeah I agree

#

can I have a pesti 🄹

#

The thing is

#

GK has the same artifact drop chance than wyvern

uncut heart
stone panther
#

GK has a 98% grief chance tho...

charred veldt
#

But wyvern has 100% escape rate

#

GK doesn't

#

they removed the portal even

uncut heart
#

Actually gk is isnane no?

charred veldt
#

Uhhh I killed it today... 2 times probably

#

No one in sight

#

probably the hour and server though

#

but yeah you usually get ganked in the chase phase

#

I've learned from my past mistakes and now run accelerando and langor

uncut heart
#

Yeah im boutta be on tuesday my only free day at 5am farmin gk

charred veldt
#

mf is not catching me

#

good luck

#

I've started bringing magic prot pots so I can get more uptime in hitting him and less in healing with bands

#

on my full kitted bard I can probably get a phase within 4 shots

#

on ideal RNG I could probably take it out solo in... 2:15

#

usually not the case

dusty heart
#

Fix the archer skeletons ALWAYS headshotting you

charred veldt
dusty heart
#

It's getting so annoying. It's ALWAYS a headshot.

cyan plank
#

The game now is pure shit. I fight in normal with a fighter…not so good…I use mage and I continue to give him damage…for minutes……never take a hit…only one hit at the end of the fight and I’m dead.
He has all the best kit for blue….one hit of alabard and i’m dead.
It’s ok if we need to find the stuff but with the market the game became awful .
The game is dead….before the flea was so good..

dusty heart
whole kite
#

fix this shit ass fire colossus's

charred veldt
#

they always aim for head

charred veldt
#

"I continue to give him damage.... for minutes...." like bro what

#

are you complaining about a boss

#

about a class

#

about druid or sorc

#

wym

#

also what flea

cyan plank
charred veldt
#

... Go... play squires to riches?

cyan plank
#

Flea is marketplace

charred veldt
#

I love marketplace

cyan plank
#

The fun of an extraction is to find stuff and use…the market ruin all for me

warm kraken
charred veldt
#

I can build my phys healing kits and not want to close game when I lose it

#

deadass bro, squires to riches

#

out of all the complaints I've heard this is the most goofy one

#

specially 8 hours into market

warm kraken
#

Or...hear me out.. Instead of complaining about how you have no gear and mzrket is out, use the market to buy some gear lmao

charred veldt
#

no deadass, even if I had 0 gold to my name

#

I would go to normals malestrom

#

get out with 2k within 9 minutes

#

pull up to HR, get 3k per 10 minutes

cyan plank
charred veldt
#

Build gold storage, start buying cheap kits and saving the gems I get

warm kraken
charred veldt
#

oh you have yet to find the REALLY geared guys

#

if you drop them to half they get extremely nervous

warm kraken
#

Ive been running full gemmed blues in normals, and legendary in Hr since day 2, it has nothing to do with market

charred veldt
#

i honestly prefer market than ssf

#

even if everyone is running better kits

#

at least I don't have to look under rocks for the piece I want

#

I can build a full kit within 15 minutes on a single treasure run on water map

warm kraken
#

Ssf is cool for people that play normals but trying tk build an HR kit after dying is cancer

charred veldt
#

yup

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I say this as a squire enthusiast

cyan plank
charred veldt
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you can do it too

warm kraken
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Then play S2R until you have some gear sets saved

charred veldt
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The thing is that without market I wouldn't even attempt lava collossus right now

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I need a full phys healing drunk bard kit

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to even have a CHANCE on phase 3 floor

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without doing the no-no thing

warm kraken
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Updated colossus is just cancer

charred veldt
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I learned the new attack pattern

scenic lake
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Been at work, did they release the workshop yet?

charred veldt
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I managed to drop it to phase 3 in squire

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15 times

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I lay dead on the floor within the first 30 seconds

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not a single hit from the boss

brave jolt
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Does anyone know if there’s an mdb cap?

warm kraken
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We killed the old one a lot in Norms before we knew about the butt cheese

charred veldt
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but if you stack will you get diminishing returns

restive cypress
scenic lake
charred veldt
scenic lake
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I figured as much, just haven’t been able to log in today

charred veldt
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market is open tho

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btw do we know what the workshop is going to be?

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like a weapon mod system?

restive cypress
charred veldt
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like using dwarfes pickaxe heads to increase something but decrease other thing?

restive cypress
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it may be very good or useless

charred veldt
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btw has anyone seen the lava boss new drop?

scenic lake
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It’ll probably be similar to arc raiders where you use lower tier loot to make better shit

brave jolt
charred veldt
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Mfs be selling them for 33k

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as if they weren't going to be hit by IM tomorrow