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casual players would have more fun if faustain wasnt just you get w m1ed by a fighter
are you saying faustian bargains should be able to kill players?
while you are correct, Squirrelbrain Druid Fan has bigger priorities
your argument is: "faustian is too weak, spawning in as a lvl1 mob should mean you can kill a full plate fighter with full hp" like no that would just be cancer cause there's barely a reward for the player.
i'm gonna be real with you, you don't know how to play faustian creatures well yet
i said you should be able to outrun a plate fighter
still no
so if a fighter holds w at you you should just die with no counterplay ?
is that what you're saying
this is entirely an issue with plate fighter itself and the overall scuffed movement system rather than faustian
2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.
if you know how to move around somewhat well and pick your opportunities to strike it's not as miserable as you say it is
the issue is that mob movespeed is genuinly pathetic
you cant chase anyone and you cant flee at all
as soon as someone gets near you its either they die because they're terrible or you die
again, in my experience I've been able to outrun fighters numerous times.
its half-baked gimmick. you are expecting too much from it
this guy really expects to win a 1v1 as a faustian after you kill him as a player or somethin?
this has either got to be rage bait or trolling
im expecting to not be able to be facetanked by a wizard with 5 strenght and not instantly dying as soon as anyone gets near
with the "made in abyss fan" bio i'm 100% convinced they're serious
what a good argument to bring up my hobbies
that has nothing to do with this conversation
stereotypes are earned not given champ
half-baked gimmickry tends to be shit, idk what to tell you
this has genuinly nothing to do with the conversation lol
what a good way to prove ur point
holy nerd
no one cares enough to actually try to debate you
this isn't the debate team buddy
considering they've expressed the desire to make it into a main mechanic and it keeps getting somewhat frequent balance patches id expect a bit of it
you're just missing the whole point of the mechanic as a whole and you're expecting too much of it. Also a skill issue I'm sorry to tell ya
the players you fight have a skill issue as well
saying skill issues leads to nowhere
didn't you say they can just w key?
all of a sudden killing a faustian requires some amount of skill
if try blocking or just whiff 80 hits like some ppl do that doesnt really matter
i've seen some ppl attempt to parry a faustain mob for like 5 hit in a row and die in the process
does that mean faustain is overpowered no
now the question becomes just how much skill is needed, where you're severely overestimating the ability of the avergae joe
that really doesnt mean anything
sure bud
all your arguments are just logical fallacies stapled together, you're contradicting yourself in every one of them
what im expecting is that if a caster gets ambushed that you'd be able to kill them and not have them statcheck you and that you'd be able to reasonably get near ppl without being w m1ed
anybody think rings are hard to craft specifically the ones that require life leaf?
when
what have i said that contradicts myself
but why should it be the goal to kill someone with faustian bargain? what do you get out of it?
does anybody know if arena will be only in epic gear or legendary?
because anything else doesnt really do anything
you cant really make ppl lose stuff
beside killing them
"they can just w key" while also saying "if they die to faustian they're bad" a bad player could easily w key and kill them if that were the case. that's where movement, spacing and choosing when to strike comes into play, the department you're obv lacking in.
faustian high roller mobs was good times
the point of faustain is to be able to get revenge on people
training has been a "work in progress" for 3 years now
this message exists #dev-qna-archives message while the only wizard spells weve recieved are explosion and magic lock
they "fixed" jump meta with midair velocity change. magic crow >fall. sorc still has like 6 sorc-exclusive mechanics. id reccomend you throw your expectations right down thes shitter tbh
hi guys arena will be purples ?
the only way to get revenge on people is killing them
mildly damaging them and making them use meds is just a mild inconveniance doesnt really achieve anything
it's way more nuanced than that
theres bad players that realise they can hold w at faustain and theres bad people that get stuck on doors or attempt to parry like 8 time and die
i did all his quest but i can't craft spec bags???
then what else are you supposed to do for "revenge"
technically you cant make them lose stuff if they have goblin merchant leveled, also the way i do my daily dealmaker quests is the antithesis of the "revenge" point. i go in naked, break stuff, kill myself with hellfire and find randoms to harass. who am i avenging? myself?
i think you're just a bit 4utistic, not in a necessarily bad way
goblin merchant doesnt bring everything back and someone can come loot up the stuff and they lose the stuff they looted
all the ultimatums seem to have to be ABSOLUTES in your mind
anyone know?
i've been told it will be but i cant tell you if that's actually true. we'll find out in a day though so
all i want is to be able to put up somewhat of a fight if i play properly and not have 80% of matchups being just you get facetanked
thanks!!
how to make spec bag?
isn't annoying the sh out of someone as a goblin while they're trying to kill other mobs/fighting a player a kind of revenge? you're undoubtedly causing them to rage while at the same time having fun. and if u dont find running around as a goblin and smacking fun ppl idk what to tell u
and not go like oh i got this mob welp time to not even bother because now i have to walk for half the match to find someone because for some reason 50% movespeed is enjoyable when you dont even know where they are
you should get ressources that tell you where ppl are that way you're able to utilize the dungeon to its strenght and ambush/trick people
u literally have the exact same speed as a normal goblin, and as a skeleton ur considerably faster than a standard white one
80% of my faustain gameplay is litteraly just me walking around because i cant find anyone
they're still way too slow to do anything
No wrokshop?
again im telling you these are YOUR experiences that doesnt mean its an objective truth
give faustian bargain wall hack heat vision
do double boss rooms spawn artifacts
honestly they should try it to see how it goes
omfg i cant this HAS to be bait
would probably be a bit too strong but i honestly think we should atleast have every module where a player is in be highlighted on the map
whats the reason spectral fabric is twice cheaper than troll pelt? right now ?
the biggest issues with faustain is the mob balancing being awful and the fact you have 0 intel on anyone
market is unstable just let it settle for a bit
I usually go towards the module in which I died in search of the player that killed me and 90% of the time I end up finding another player in the 3rd or 4th module I enter.
(1-2 minutes)
except 80% of the time i spawn at like the other side of the map and by the time i get there the guy is gone
@zinc sparrow 2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.
and dont get me started on dying late
and what is that? it stats with s and ends with ubjective experience
where you just spend the last 6 minutes trying to find someone just for everyone to have went red or blue
have u considered purchasing a seasonal dlc upgrade eslot
So arena got delayed again?
calling the mechanic bad because im litteraly not being able to play it due to being unlucky isnt subjective
unstable? but its ridiculous to pick up spec fabric for as low as 3k right now, troll is 6 k
ppl scamming themselves
unlucky is literally subjective tho.. it's implied in the word
Pls guys can someone explain me how to unlock the marketplace ty so much
you should be able to reliably find ppl and not have matches that ends up being wasting 8 minutes on absolutely nothin
that shouldnt be an outcome thats possible at all
and again, in my experience I do find people regularly
cool
literally almost every time I do faustian
pls guyss
pls guys
according to your own logic that negates your entire argument, I'm just the other end of the stick
you need to have a lv and pay
there shouldnt be multiple end of that stick
lvl 20, legendary status
are you allowed to trade outside og game because the maret post doesnt stop wehn you scroll up its really annoying
they should give faustian the map genie so it can see where quest locations are
you should be able to play the gamemode and not be unlucky and have nothing to do
it literally says it right there
sucks to be you ig
thats like if you could have a random chance of the game giving you absolutely nothing to do
great argument
no bro I have other message so I need the premium version ?
yeah, cause I've never heard anyone complain as much as you about it
you need premium to sell items but you can buy items without it
because a big majority of the playerbase dont even bother with the mechanic due to how bad it is
its something they try once then immediatly ditch after spending 5 minute finding someone just to get ranged spam or w m1ed
can u check dm plss
so? whenever it's a point of discussion I never see ppl complaining
brother learn how to read
all the information is right there in the game
so i think the fact that so little ppl actually bother with the mechanic shows how poorly made it is
finding a faustain mob is something that happens to me like every 10 game if im lucky
its genuinly such an incredibly rare sight to see
i see it all the time in norms
again, when it's a point of discussion (ppl sharing their experiences with the mechanic)
i've played like 50 game in the past week and i've found a staggering 0 faustain players
Where do you get demon blood specifically?
this guy can just NOT fathom nuance and differentiate between objective truths and subjective experiences
from any demon mob in inferno
demon dogs and demon berzerkers
does anyone know what we will be able to bring in for arena
an objective truth is that most ppl dont bother with the mechanic because its poorly balanced
still doesn't constitute a whole rework and massive buffs to faustian cause all the arguments you're giving are subjective experiences
i find way too many in HR inferno, just kill anything that looks like a demon and youll more than what you know what to do with
on what basis
does the rubysilver halberd give any extra stats like debuff or something?
pdr
all your arguments are based on your own gameplay
does anyone know what we will be able to bring in for arena
my arguments are based on my gameplay and the gameplay of ppl i've played against and with and the balancing of the mechanic
and none of which that I, as an example, relate to
i can say the same to you
oh yeah I bet you got a whole research team out there right? and graphs of the stat curves and balancing
exactly, that's why it's SUBJECTIVE
everything is subjective who cares
but you're talking as if everything you say is undeniable truth
a telltale sign of low intelligence I might add
a failure to discern subjectivity from universal reality
aint no way were still talking about faustain viability
Can you bring any stuff to arena this season? even not looted and unique ?
a telltale sign of low intelligence is calling people low intelligence because you ran out of argument to add to the conversation
does anyone know what we will be able to bring in for arena
sure, whatever you say
idk but im trying to find out
i can see that ^^
i dont think we know yet
lemme know if u find out ok
sure
purple/epic max. i dont think its ssf tho
hey, @fossil sun can you help me list my unique stuff? im sorta new to the game and i dont know whats hot on the market
i gotchu
Epic gear. Non-ssf.
Can I message you in dms wiht screenshots of all my stuff?
I think ity was for pre season
yeah fs
Does magic dmg bonus and +1 additional magic dmg work on rogue poison?
Yeah word ty
np
is there a location on inferno for golden key?
anyone know if arena gonna be up to epic still? or will it bump up to legendary?
i have such bad gear fear. its almost crippling
it doesnt exist
Should be epics still, all gear allowed
I don't believe so
@zinc sparrow 2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.
3 weeks ssf ,,atleast 3 pages of slots available for selling
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The current meta with you range soft boys, constantly hugging doors and never pushing.
- you're the problem with the game
I'm so glad I hoarded quest items lol. Some of these are thousands and thousands a peice.
how much health is 1 vig?
add paladin
Release the Map Genie!
Does anyone know what gear grade arena is going to be?
Gold Rapier
+3.1% HS Dmg Bonus
+21 Luck
+1.6% Act Spd
+12 Ad Armor Rtng
How much is it worth
6700 gold
actually?
is expressman bugged? my unique morning star didnt get sent thru to the lobby
it take time
is frostlight gear comming out this week?
i remember when froststone was rare and there wouldnt be more than a page of it and it sold for 3k a stack
sdf deserves the 3/5 compromise
thats too nice
Are grimmies out yet to be craftable?
yea
So this Range and Ranger meta is bullshtttt
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just waiting at doors or absolutely losing to duo range classes
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- super fun
How do you get tears of the volcano?
probably big lava boss guy
Eww continous dungeons still a thing? killed a barb and soon as I go to pop a potion, a fighter shoots me from a broken door. messages me and tells me he just spawned in. Ggs to that guy for sure, but the fact the people can literally spawn in right after you, where you just spawned from is egregious. Thats gotta change, shits ass when its not done right.
Do we know if arena is going to be self found minted or you can use anything from the market?
how has market been so far?
full and kind of trash ngl
so he was in your friends list when he messages you?
whys that? im just curious i cant get on til later
Holy larp
well most items are pretty full so people have been either under cutting like crazy driving prices really low or buying up items and leaving them way too high. Bunch of everything, bunch of trash, its a freewill market and with the grinders now a days, if u need an item u can get it
no. you can type /w when you have a players name. type it in and you can send someone a message lol
no you cant anymore lol
they removed that in the last patch of the previous season unless they secretly added it back
Turbo larper
That is friends only
Someones trying to larp with shit that don't even exist
turbo larper š
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lmao wtf is that? are you 10? holy shit lol. Just make up anything nowadays lol
howcome I sold something for 1k but it's might be worth more like 1.1k? how to know?? am I scammed??
i wasnt the one who said it my guy
i just found it funny
Buddy getting pressed cuz he was caught lying omd
hes rage baiting
lol pressed and Laughing? okay internet gangster
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Go kick rocks buddy
Caught with some omega larp
omega larp lmaooo ohhh brother. you're as lame as my cap. garbage ass insults. sounds like something my gramps would say
i think it's purple
fck liars
guy i did all leathersmith quest bu i can't cratf spec bags
start with greens in normals. stepping up the rarities comes naturally
wait for more quests
wait?
once you play hr more often you get flooded with good items and gems
or make a time machine. up to you
hey guys so im selling the crown of the midnight stag and i already have the sale for 20k but i dont have the inventory space to collect it, how can i get around this?
they had quest over time?
Get bags
yes
im too poor š oh lord thanks
sell other things. buy stashes and fill them with coin purses. move gear onto another character and buy more purses
depends on your vigor count. i think you might get more than 1hp per vig until you hit 15. probably less than 1hp after hitting 40 vig. i dont claim tto be precise on this one tho. many other attributes work like this.
Anyone know if the "Post Express" page on expressman is just for twitch drops?
i remember a welcome package with free stuff you gott in the beginning like 2 wipes ago
does anyone know if bladehand drops artifacts? or what artifacts?
cool but i mean like can i send mail between characters?
Any news on arena?
2 MARKET PAGES IS NOT OKAY. Before market was merged we had 1 market page on every character which gave us more than enough slots to sell our gear. Now we have 2 pages which simply is not enough. When you start getting lots of gear it makes it very difficult to sell all of it without spending a lot of time waiting for things to sell. Atleast give us a way to unlock more market slots through gold or something else.
you got a shared stash for that. you can get up to 2 shared stash tabs. 1 from legendary status, 1 from seasonal dlc
how do I get 75 rep with armourer if i did all his quests got me to 50?
dang mang i just wish i could direct send. Oh well tyty
is longsword on fighter a bit to strong right now or am i just a soy
fire Colossus impossible now gg
ls fighter has been nerfed to the ground tbh indirectly at least
not from what ive encountered lots of new riposte perks and infinite pdr makes it impossible to win most fights
and mind you im playing reckless attack with two hander and axe specialization and i still barely deal damege
true but the other weapons having riposte mechanics puts ls into the mid tier as far as weapons anyways imo yeah the reach is nice but the speed isnt worth it any more
bro remember they nerfed most 2 handed weapon parrys even bardiche despite it only being 1 attack
longsword u get 2 attacks for just one block
Has anyone else ran into this 100 mag power bonus warlock shit????
just died to a CoP and a Dark bolt with 150hp. full legendary kit gone and purple rings š
with gear being what it is jsut try and adapt and block more
nah fr lemme just block the spells with my longsword as if he cant cast an infinite amount of them
yeah i use bardiche a lot its pretty impossible but what can you do all classess added after the game released are horrible to fight against thats just how it is
Did they get rid of the + all atributes stats?
Yes and true damage as well.
anyone know what catice is worth
ay dog matching
balance in the game still feels like ass, if you are any melee class against any magic class, its a run around fest, or its just get absolutely smoked When they can fire fireballs faster than i can shoot arrows than its basically a lost cause
THE FACT I QUE UP WITH A ROUGE THAT JUST HIDES AND RUNS NO HELP JUST PLAY SOLO!!! ADD BACK WHERE YOU CANT QUE TROS UNLESS YOU HAVE A FULL TEAM SHITS ASSSSSSS
Be less chonky and or use doorways to force line of sight and close the gap
W gameplay
no ones running gear???
the problem is they never fixed any range class at all. Even though WW barb and speed barbs are a big problems and see a lot, as long as you keep your distance and pelt with arrows you win. They never really fixed range to any a counter besides other range. Im more surprised fighter isnt run more with a bow to combat these "barbs"
Certified pve barb main take
yup yup. squire kits killing geared aplenty so why bother
thank you, i tend not to lean towards meta. Ive always played PvE barb since play tests. Rarely have I changed my skills or perks too.
curses still missing when people duck even when aiming at feet the spaghetti code is unreal
welcome to hell, is this ur first time staying or what u like to get the fck sdf package?
Make the market available on every character after unlocking it on once. Stops nothing and is tedious to switch. Think shared stash should be only type of stash but can see reasons for not
he had us in the first half
Personally i rather have just the shared stashes instead of needing to swap to check for stuff lol
also auto sort...but i saw how long the quiver took so not looking great
ever seen how long it can take a monkey to code a game? Think x20 longer for this group
im aware been playing off and on since pt3 i think
dang, ive been since pt1 and then took a 2 year gap after season 3, during season 4 bc they never fixed magic meta back then
Rework all maps so bosses can leave their modules
once a boss fight starts, it doesn't end until you escape, die, or kill the boss
and then add player controlled bosses
does barbs buff duration effect teammates with war cry or is it based on their buff duration?
idk what u r smoking but can u share?
i think their buff duration
Yo guys is there a cap for headshot damage?
Im just not sure if they should focus on that or the penguin potion
not only could they not get that to work ever, but why lmao
their buff duration
so cooldown for support barb
ill bend you over and show you spahgetti code
how could that not ever work? thatd be top tier W gameplay
penguin potion. Ur idea was actually dumb and may be good on a more open world game but not a BR/extraction like this
ill poop whole spahgettios for u
nah itd be perfect here, top tier W gameplay. Perfect faustian bargain endgame
id say yes but u need like at least 10 faustians saved up in 1 game
best i can do is 4
10, cuz think abt it, u want someone to take over the fire colosus and just shrek everyone bc there isnt an attack pattern to follow?
ill meet you in the middle at 7, but only if you can summon friends as subbosses
u lost me again. At that point just make a faustian only game mode
hello guys, is there a way to see better in the game? cause cant manage to see the mob on the ground for not aggro multiple of them
gamma to the max
Does luck not effect weapons unless they're out
turn up your brightness
use torches when necessary
how do we do it ? new to pc just bought it 2 weeks ago
correct, any effect a weapon has on it does not work unless out
go into ur setting and under video
So for example a lyre, pretty bad to have luck on
itll be display brightness, max it to 3
luck rn is bad, it is broken and not in a good way
luck might be entirely useless
oh tyy might help was at 2.2
ty
if luck wasn't negligible a lyre would be the one instrument you would want luck on since the lyre has resourcefulness and can be used to open chests and pull from piles quicker
id say bring back old luck but with how loot pools are and how common golds and uniques are, idk anymore
like i dont think if i combine my 3 seasons and 3 play tests, i have more golds in this one season than all of them
so maybe hold onto it and pray they fix luck?
just make it so luck slightly increases chance to find higher grade items but instead has chance depending on luck to give an extra item from anything you loot cause find uniques and golds isnt hard anymore
cus its a lyre with 52 luck on it
wouldn't hurt
i saw a unqiue with 162 luck on it
hear me out, what if luck worked more on open quest items? More luck, more chance for the item to drop.
Man trying to price this stuff is confusing
yes of course that too and maybe a bit more chance to find uquipment ment for ur class
put us on the dev team, we just came up with a better idea than they ever have XD
also they prob ahve hard time with development cant blame they spaghetti code
theyve always had a problem with it and it aint got to due with code. Its the man in charge. His head is so far in his ass all he sees is shit
what are the warped adamantine shackles from the fire collosus used for? Just sold one for 10k gold, I don't know their use tho
do you lose your gear if you die in pve mode?
Arena tomorrow will be SSF epic? or what?
when?
how did you get it from the lava golem boss?
right now probably nothin
If I had to guess either quest item or component for craftable
Yall think theyre ever gonna do something ab the dumb asf insta redding
yeah they said it was coming later, they did a test run with blue gates first
Chyunkus posted this yesterday #the-tavern message
Feels like something that shouldve been gone aggggges ago. Just had a 3rd party loot my kill while i was healing and insta run to the red
which gives me the impression it's teasing red gates
Like what a lame mechanic
they should remove east and west servers to make a central server in like calorado or something
Is arena crafted or ssf only? Do you lose your gear?
what someone has shiii ball ping and lives in Colorado
because its in the center and people who live west and east will have somewhat similar ping and west lobbies wont be dead/bad because it'll be merged
WTF is HEAD OF THE MIDNIGHT STAG
Can anyone help me find the 'Treasure Room' location? I went to the 2nd floor of ruins and looted the treasure pile but it must be a different room.
Its in crypts
i dont have bad ping at all and im on east i think if your east play east if you're west play west sorry about you its your fault if you want to play with bad ping in my opinion not saying that they have great servers of all the time but if youre choosing to play the opposite server than its kinda on you
It's really fun to gear up your rogue, just to get 3 tapped by a ranger on the other side of the map
- IronMace, your game design is REALLY shittttty
You're not understanding what I'm trying to say. It has nothing to do with ping or lag. It's because the game doesn't have a lot of players, and they're split between different maps and servers, so I think it'll be better if they merge west and east to a central server in the middle of America so lobbies would feel more full and better since most west players just switch to east anyway.
have IM given any info on arena? SSF or na?
average rogue player complaining about the high ranged damage class beating the frail high melee damage class
at range
you're probably a W class Barbarian
I play bard vro
like literally just landmine them on a door or something if you have ambush you outspeed and if ur not running hide in solos ur throwing
you know dck all
glass cannon gets shattered, more at 8
you just standing still or what
its harder to get hit by a ranger from distance than not
average rogue main
crappy ranged meta with a shield
Just get better at dealing with range itās not that hard to counter vro lock in
Does wyvern drop viola
ive had no issues getting lobbies in east?
i dont play west at all
no wyvern is just bows this season
viola is on warlord iirc
how to get punch and bellow please for the quest
Im rather convinced 2/5 ranges ive fought have esp/wall hacks
Constantly pre firing right at the head every time i peak or shooting me from out of render š„
chase is pretty powerful
Im not even talking about when they run across map straight for a team
Although its fun to watch teams without a ranger run straight to another team while im spectating
This might be a little different but what is there was a camp fire in the transition areas as you go down that you couid sit at after you give your gear to the expressman
i mean they implemented wall hacks for everyone, just get a fps counter and whereever you look and lose fps, are enemies
to be fair unless you're invisible or something you have a ton of time to just let go of the button and hit someone as they peek
Yeah, I'm not talking about East; I'm saying West lobbies feel kind of dead, and most people switch to East anyway, so I'm saying it'll be better if they merge them.
Ive also seen them crouch behind an object while we are running around a room poke there head out and instantly hit a headshot
Not even half a second reaction time to aim ever
Its one thing to hold a spot them shoot when you see a slight but of movement
Ban all handouts
Also wish they implemented something into normal or high roller dividing the classes into seperate groups such as ranged and melee so you cant have a ranger and a wizard on a duo
Even tho that wouldnt really work since you could have melee builds
Still so fun fighting a sorcerer ranger combo 
i think bros mad he isnt getting any
Nah means nothing to me personally just a dumb way to get around the rules
yeah i see what you mean but lets be honest here do oyu see them doing that?
idk why say something knowing nothing is goin gto happen unless youre mad lmao
If you want low ping just move into their server rooms and hide in the walls šš»
Ragebaiting isnt gonna work brother best of luck in ur games tonight
ya west is feeling super dead in solo hr rn
I'm not im just stating the obvious? ty tho ā¤ļø
I keep seeing people saying that arena will be purple rarity only tommrow. Does anyone know if there is merit to people saying that or are they just guessing?
How do I get more black roses?
havent seen a single person take handouts yet btw
Ring and pendant recipes need to be adjusted. 200 gold for the worst ring available is ridiculous. Stick with the plan to devalue gear. All gear.
Do task each day
Isn't the valentine dude gone in 19hrs
Fr? If so thatās tragic Iāll be one short
I gave his butt a rose yesterday and today it said 0/3
To late today š”š”š”š”
wtf people selling broken glasses for 4.6k
There is no way bro
You are telling me 33% chance from imp is TWICE as expensive as 10% drop chance from a BOSS?
Sup
Hell nah what is this economy
For arena itās going to be purple highest gear right?
Wouldn't it make sense for the other classes to have some buff/debuff stuff
there is warlock
Yeah but every magical class should have something ya know?
Does anyone know how the veteran instinct perk works like what does "entering combat" mean exactly, do I have to take dmg then i get the buffs?
Its just not balanced because Bard has like everything
If you spread it out a bit more then hell the other classes might be viable in certain comps
Taking damage or doing damage
Thank you
Just saying its weird its all on one class.
well its the jackal of all traits
That just doesn't work in a game like this.
druid is a jackal of all traits and sorcerer too
Its like a necessary win condition to have a bard.
druid is so much nerfed that i rarely ever see one, which is super nice
They dont do much spell wise to boost teammates.
They only have passives that are very small buffs.
Meanwhile bard has huge buffs.
That can stack.
Thats cool he has them right but like wizard, sorcerer, and druid should have something to effect teammates spell wise.
Druid has healing which fair.
wizard has 3 spells
But wizard and sorcerer really arent doing much for the team
wizard has insane buffs for teammates by the way
Damage sure. But team buffs snd debuffs no
ye you are completly clueless mike
one of the strongest damage buffs in ignite
haste gives movement speed and action speed
1 sec
invis is insane
Oh nvm wizard is solid
xd
Yeah but bard still feels too opressive
sorcerer is the only one and not every caster class needs to also be a support your arguement is baseless
bard is not opressive its not even run in many comps
you can say its s tier for sure
but cleric is way way better for trios
and its genuinely not even close
not to mention cleric also wins out in melee against every class in the game when they have smite up
+2 to every stat, extra damage, extra action speed, extra movement, dps is good. I dunno.
mike have you playied the game before?
bard loses in melee to fighters, barbarians, clerics and good rouges
No
what do you mean
are you theory crafting it being broken or do you actually have high level experience
alright put down the edibles im out of here
xd
ironmace def needs to turn down the stuff u get from raids
They can kite, they can block, they can do damage, they can nerf, they can buff themselves and their teammates. They can go invisible. They can use range weapons. They are oppressive
hahahahahahahahaaha
They can instant open doors. They can attack buff and debuff through walls and floors (this is huge) plus insane action speed.
Its broken.
Bro missed there release clearly. Trust me this bard is NOTHING compared to start.
It's strong but balanced
(No I don't play bard)
you just dont understand boof and gooder
They need nerfs
w ragebait
yes its broken, but as snowman said, its balanced. sorc is broken in most ways, but hes balanced with baby damage
Naw im serious
read the patch notes
Naw sorcerer needs buffs
xd
Way too fragile.
bro is a professional ragebaiter
this is just how boof and goofer works. some classes get entirely goof mechanics that dont fit and are exclusive to their class. this is the method. this is boof and goofer
I mistakenly stepped up after you wisely dipped. Fuck when will I learn
Im not joking. All they have is that lighting dash on a major cool down. They take a hot minute to merge their spells but they are 2 tapped the moment you get in on them. Hell or if you hit them with a breeze they die.
you have basicly an instant kill combo
They need buffs .
they also flaot you in air, freeze you in place, block doors....
you fell right into his trap
levitate> frost ligning > elebolt,
u have door blocker for escape and traps and splitting an enemy team
how much is a chest worth rn
Im serious they need buffs
Has anyone tested if movement speed is actually real? I have been running 310ms and have been getting run down by barbs with 275-280ms without getting hit by anything
you have Line of sight aoe (storm) on pillars + flame wall.
i think like 100k
they need to give other classes goof mechanics to play into boof and goofer. float/freeze/doorblock counters, or those mechanics themselves. otherwise they stay having baby damage this is just how it is
okay nice ty
Yes.
Also let the rogue throw his daggers lol
nah instead its -77 ms on 2nd jump with no action
is us west actually just dead in hr
how can your lobby be dead, i have like 6 chinese guys in every lobby
Id also say take away ranged weapons from the fighter.
Or at the very least make it so one perk is all melee, and another is all ranged.
Learn to say hello in mandarin. They become surprisingly friendly after
That way it consumes 2 slots.
ni hao ma
anyone else kinda hate HR now?
What do you think about giving ranger a perk that prevents them from triggering traps?
feels like the hackers are out
I watched a barb smash his way through 2 modules straight at a bard who was sitting down with low hp
And the bard was down a floor. Dude heatseeked in
dose anyone have uniqes with undead damage they would trade?
LOL
do you stack add mag with viola
i have killed so many imps and no cracked glasses D:
i always go for additonal phys and will idk i mean play to ur own
The game is dead in general guy. Way too many servers/map mode options. This little player base is to thin for all that
everyones geared ash. the mistkaes they make we cant capata;lize on as hard
i got a pair ill sell to u
Lmfao welcome to blue bis in norms
Time to play HR for money and join em in kitting tf out
nah son, 47 averager players-per-queue-per-server, 23 in dungeon. its poppin off big time
nah i was bis in highroller. funny how everyones aim got a whooooole lot better once the RMT incentive came
Or your movement is wacky
oh yeah buddy
Deadass havent seen anyone with good aim yet this wipe lmfao
i need it on like arrmor or long sorwd
havent been on since the market dropped im assuming the economy is stupid ?
stop assuming after the what past 8 wipes its been dumb ok
when are we nerfing reckless attack???????
theyll probably buff it knowning them
lol
have IM confirmed whether arena will be SSF or not?
no craftables in the game right no and no question do or will require it
How are you so sure none will require it?
yeah no ssf and epic rarity cap
Is there any way to get Rusty Key besides golden chests and small coffers? Does the worm still drop it?
https://darkanddarkertracker.com/questtracker here you go twin
yea just kill ur game with sorcerer buffs ironmace good job
Lol no its not
holy shit this game isn't dead yet
not even a barb with iron will can catch a sorcerer in this meta
and he does 100-30 anyclass with no counterplay
are you a ranger
With any ranged class honestly, its horrible
barb shouldnt even be able to catch casters so easily but he def does
but game was never like this, iron will barb was the counter for sorcs
now the only thing who can kill a sorc is another ranged that outdps him
and im not talking about minmax bis sorc with agility, even a almost squire sorc works like that
43 and 21 now. its huuugggge
i have a unique leather cap with 43 add armor rating but i dont see any being sold on the market so i cant gauge how much to sell it for... any ideas here?
1/10 ragebait
43000
pay me that in bags you got a deal
Hey gamers, does increasing my "Will" increase my magical healing? Or is that a specific modifier I should go for directly?
yes it does, but magic healing is its own stat tho that is preferable if youre trying to focus on healing
It does but less than magic healing does
it does not increase your magical healing stat, but it does icrease the healing of your spells a little bit. Will, magical power and maybe magical damage bonus does too but I'm not sure
The full answer is magical power is part of the math for how much magic heal you have. And will gives magic power
But it's a lesser modifier than magical healing itself
You mean getting rolled by orange gem kits before I can clear the module I spawn in with my goop purples? Yea that part sucks. 3rd partying a boss room because I PvP better than I can fight a boss? Thereās give and take.
is the flea that ruin the game open?
mdr and pdr just dont exist i believe that
is anyone crashing?
when update??? workshop when???
Is that dark and darker goblin guide app in the app store up to datem
Its probably just prego goblin fan art
is arena only purples rn?
Have more Armourer quests been unlocked yet?
Hello guys, quick question for arena
If i loot with char1 an item, can i use it in arena on char2 ? Does the item disappear if i die?
Heard Agility is a dead stat now. But isnt MS kinda cracked?
only for solos u will care about ms
in duo trios it's anw
It was already over from the start. But of you're leaving because people can buy gear lol. Just shows how bad you are at the game.
it's just better bc u will fight noob with gear now
love losing kits because cave troll can see you when your invis now.
why ur even invis in troll room
Going invisible should automatically reset the boss to full hp anyhow
there was multiple people fighting it, i casted invis because low hp, and troll just b lines across the room as i'm leaving while invis and kills me
Sounds like a rat got squished
That's what you get for ratting
yeah xD
š
love when peoples inner rat thoughts come out. I was just helping to fight.
Helping so now youre teaming before the back stab
Things that didn't happen for 500 please
didn't know you could backstab players in pve
Oh god pve bud youll get your gear back
Mechanically to buy space as ranger makes sense? Why should invis give boss full health? No aggro = max hp?

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If you leave the boss room it gets full hp. Going invisible should do the same thing. A back step is just giving you room. Not removing aggro
Ok gotta say the new pendant is crazy
what are you talking about
( One barb alrdy have Hooked you ? that frustrating ? )
I missed the market so much
look lik,e so hard to land a good hook
š§š going invis is not leaving the room to campfire. Kinda illogical imo.
first day of the market opened I went from getting f*cked to wiping lobbies
Fangs of death? Those are 14.3% even
crazy
You're removing aggro not creating space with a dodge
whoeveers idea it was to make the water map needs to be fired
Unique pen? wtf got this? How much?
purple. DEADASS
I'll make a icefang rogue build as soon as the weaponsmith quests drop
NO ONE is surviving the third hit
gonna buy it rly fast
this one: https://i.gyazo.com/83813dadedd9192dbae84f1837302393.png
bone powder is expensive tho
Removing aggro isnāt leaving the room though. Does going invis actually reset health? Do we know this?
If it resets him to the middle I would believe so
if boss reset and goes back to the middle of the room he reset and get full hp
I havenāt got bonepowder yet, or enough favor to even see this recipe. Thatās WILD
Tough. Never gonna invis again. This explains so much.
Water map is beautiful. But they should have added a huge island in the middle with water ways. And then smaller islands around it. Less fighting in the water
I just pulled a gold coin chest and i started playing this wipe idk if i should sell it and if so for what plz help
it is current max affinity
the 5 gold ingot into 5 shining pearl quest
Lvl 2, accessible through a massive ship filled with mobs, survive boat and load into a harbor island like this. Maybe put a boss under a tower? Climb tower, fight way down to bottom, portal after boss room.?
The legendary rings are with gold if someone was wondering
i'm hoping that in 16 hours we are getting uniques added to it... we'll see
I honestly am not excited
Trade you for some bones and rusty broken swords. I got 50 gold teeth for it.
Unique ring crafting is going to turn into full gacha
get a good roll or die with sh!t
people will get gamblin addiction on ring crafting
You can craft uniques???!?!
uhh... you will
Been that.
there are unique arcane essences
though EXTREMELY rare apparently, nobody sells them in bulk of 10
I havenāt smelled one yet.
im not that new
look at the market
Ahhh, but I am that broke.
The ghost king now drops artifacts? Blood and what else?
"Now"
When even the ghost king DIDN'T
who wanna carry me
pre release alpha?
???
What's it worth to ya https://i.gyazo.com/e6b251d57e8dc6ad1bfbd525ce247df4.png

bro the ghost king has always dropped artis
What artifacts does it drop right now? It drops fulgor and blood, but what else?
DB
only 3?
Iāll take you out to dinner and give you the human connection youāre missing.
Stinky stick (iirc)
i'm dead inside, nothing to connect with. Give me a preggo gobo skin and we can talk
So i completed every single quest for the armourer how come i still only get poor quality gear from him in the squire ?
Iāll connect with that essence stack.
Is it not supposed to be upgraded to common quality?
lmaooo
yo bro
can you hit me up with the spot where you been farming those
?
my stash is kinda homeless
What you need done?
been grabbing most of the market tbh, only farmed like 3 of them (in stabbing 200+ turtles on hr)
Ah that ok
THE TURTLES ARE INNOCENT
all plate squire is currently poor quality.
wait until tomorrow
THEY NEVER DROP UNIQUE, HOW DARE THEY NEVER DROP UNIQUE. THEY NEED TO DIE
What happens tomorrow ?
Uhhh for one, arena
For two... the patch probably.
they always roll the patch
for three, weekly quest drop
Im brand new to the game just 30 hours in so i have no idea whats going on thats why i am asking
And then...
The next f*ck up
I wager my gold they are going to screw with the lava boss AI again
And somehow make it even worse
Obsidian plate, turns fireballs into healing.
boss fights lol
Me too
looking at what they did last season with the tidestone... i'm thinking interactionspeed or something equally useless as a obsidian stat
Tbh, a sorting feature for stash, costs 10 Obby to click sort once.
and CDR would be too good for fighter
ngl, would buy. My stashes are a mess after 3 weeks of closed market
Teaming PvP is dumb. Teaming the bosses? Huge.
uninstalling this shit game again
I mean both are technically banable
Send stash
but bossing with someone and then fighting over the loot
hey what is this debuff i get when i swing weapons? is that a fatigue modifer?
should be fine
Does will increase evil magic/dark magic/true dark magic damage?
will increases magical damage, true is not modified
There was a HR adventure mode, it was pinnacle. If you TBAG and emote surrender I wonāt kill you. On God.
any magical except true?
What should a new player do when there is a problem of gold storage? Whch gold bag or pouches is worth to spend gold on to remove some of the problem?
let me rephrase:
Will gives you magical damage bonus (%), true magical is not affected
if it says 2, it will be 2 no matter how many % modifiers you got
if it says add, it will be taken into account in the damage calculation
is this game dead yet ?
The 5 cost. Buy 20-25 of them until you get bigger bags from quests or merchants/craft.
New player?
I'd say the 1000 gold bag
i have a full stash tab filled with them
Brother, fill them with gold and buy bigger bagsā¦
They each hold 500
buy the 1000 gold bags from the marketplace tho, people are dumping them currently for <700
The efficiency is really good
Me personally
If i started right now
I would go squire water map
I got it the first time about true damage, I was asking if will increases all types of magical damage (divine/evil etc.)except true magical
Yes, it increases all types of magical damage
In addition of magical damage reduction and buff duration
thanks
which makes potions heal more overall
What are silver coins used for ?
silver ingots for a certain quest, or powder
or crafting blue pendants
make silveringot or silver powder. Or exchange for gold coin
or... make weapons that have additional undead damage
Will the troll pelt drop in price over the wipe or stay similar ?
what is arena gear limit?
usually drop
and the spectral fabric rise
but most of the time they equalize
because fabric is rarer, but also people camp it less
ah okay
the barnacles for gems ?
those will drop during the wipe right ?
Ehhh
I mean gems are more volatile but
They usually stay consistent after the first week
Because everyone need legendary diamonds
what is arena gear limit?
But it's like trying to predict a market
Any idea how long Valentine is staying around?
if SDF does something stupid and market crash...
also, hold on to anything arena-isch, until weekends.
blue bandages, surg kits, etc. Those pump and dump during the week.
farming lifeleaf should also be rather profitable this time round, currently at 1400 per stack. I can get that in 1 round on pve, lol
Does anyone know how much gold does a chest worth rn?
100k+. No one is trading them for gold, only artifacts. If you put it on for 100 it'll be gone in seconds
and stag head?
lol
you probably can get multiple artifacts worth more than that overall
The thing is you probably don't even have enough gold storage
I think my limit is 20k and I got like 3 coin bags and a dozen pouches
really?? i didnt think it went up in value that much from last season
everything is different now
look on the market, there is none. All being instantly bought up.
I'd sell one for a decent artifact. I've seen people buying fulgors for like 1 chest
specially with chests that are more rare now apparently
foul boots is the only blue craft that has 3 rolls instead of two, by design or bug ?
wait gotta ask, is your chest from a pile or from the valentine's vendor?
Hi guys. I've heard old rusty key can be used in crypt, do you know in which location?
armory
Ty!
you can get artifacts from valentines vendor? ive got him at 100 but only epic gear
typo
I meant chest
ahhhh i got it from the gold pile on hr
you good then
valentine only gives bags (as part of the quest). last one is 3 bags. No chests afaik
we all get a free chest if you do your seasonal quest
my bad
got confused with the treasurer's last quest
or the huntress
a 1rd of my way there
huntress gives a chest, but that one is still a few weeks away for the first batch of peoples. I think it's up to about 21 coins out of 30 now if someone kept up. I do expect a price dip once those start hitting the market
hoping treasurer drops this week with banglelord.. that would be, convenient. Probably next week though, knowing IM
btw the weaponsmith quests
you think tmrw we get the last batch?
so we can craft the actually good weapons?
how are people getting ahold of unique accessories? You can't craft them and I thought you weren't able to find them in dungeons anymore
old rusty key
and luck
old rusty key on HR can drop them
Old rusty key room has a spot that spawns jewelry, with a chance at it being unique in HR
Hey why are pestis so cheap?)?
to be fair, wyvern has x3 artifact drop
Oh interesting. Is it only old rusty key room? you cant get them from any other map?
nope, it's the fixed drop on the floor
Rlly? Is warlord worlth doing then?
I think only rusty key has accesories
I said wyvern
when squires to ritches hr???
when playing as barbarian and even some other classes I get a bug where my weapons stop working and I cant equip them at all no matter what i do takes up to a minute or two and having to sit unequip or drop the weapon to get it to work, its been on and and off but has been becoming more and more frequent almost every match now im on a very new and nice pc setup ive uninstalled and and re installed multiple times and im playing through steam #report-a-bug
this
It is only old rusty. However, there are two doors: one in ruins, and one in crypts. The one in crypts is located in the āArmoryā module and doesnāt always spawn.
I need this so bad frfr
Yh and warlord, they are all the same chances i mean
I asked a guy
He told me only 2 bosses had x3 artifact chance
Ghost king and wyvern
ah okay. thank you
If it's not true go complain to him
Dam so why fulgo so exp
warlord is hard, dropchance is low
Wyvern is a 1/22 drop chance for artifact, all other bosses are 1/67. that is probably why all the bows, including Pestilence, are so cheap.
Idk imma wait a week till i sell my 5 pestis till market fixes
I don't think...
Well suit yourself
the fact that you have 5 pesti's kinda proves the point that they drop like candy...
Dude market is always wierd at the start
Nah i got double drop in one
u could scam so many people but ur a good guy wating
._.
Lol
Bro I can't even get one why this guy gets so many
I mean u guys will see
I run at least 15 bosses in HR every day
are we supposed to get hotfix 109 today?
I have never seen an artifact
About to pop
How could i even scamm anyone
many ways, got scammed for 30k 1 year back when I was green to the trading post
Let Paul cook
Like its their price, pesti is insane
And buy 3 pestis from @uncut heart
me too, fix lava boss
Cinder asss
._.
I'm saying dude, the only people doing it are the exploiters
what did this guy said
Just watch pesti boutta be 100k in 3 days
If I get a pesti one of these days I'll make it singlehandedly drop 20% in price
nah, Even last season a pesti was less than 1DB were vulgors and viola's were like 3. Pesti's always been on the lower side
Cool ur wierd but i dont know why i even ask here
Making a cheap ass offer and promote it everywhere
Idk i might sell 1 or 2
I do like that stinky sticks dropped again. Can finally run a bonk cleric with smite and a stinky stick again on HR 
using quarterstaff in this economy is hard
everyone playing riposte
even bonk wizards, is crazy out there
I might just run 2/3 pulvs and get wipe over and done
where do we get broken glasses from ?
Dose pulv drop from whyvern still
imps
No right
thank you
Dam thats ass bows aint even that good
yeah I agree
can I have a pesti š„¹
The thing is
GK has the same artifact drop chance than wyvern
Dude no i gotta run viola
GK has a 98% grief chance tho...
Actually gk is isnane no?
Uhhh I killed it today... 2 times probably
No one in sight
probably the hour and server though
but yeah you usually get ganked in the chase phase
I've learned from my past mistakes and now run accelerando and langor
Yeah im boutta be on tuesday my only free day at 5am farmin gk
mf is not catching me
good luck
I've started bringing magic prot pots so I can get more uptime in hitting him and less in healing with bands
on my full kitted bard I can probably get a phase within 4 shots
on ideal RNG I could probably take it out solo in... 2:15
usually not the case
Fix the archer skeletons ALWAYS headshotting you
nah just dodge
It's getting so annoying. It's ALWAYS a headshot.
The game now is pure shit. I fight in normal with a fighterā¦not so goodā¦I use mage and I continue to give him damageā¦for minutesā¦ā¦never take a hitā¦only one hit at the end of the fight and Iām dead.
He has all the best kit for blueā¦.one hit of alabard and iām dead.
Itās ok if we need to find the stuff but with the market the game became awful .
The game is deadā¦.before the flea was so good..
You can't, they 100% headshot you now when they DO hit you
fix this shit ass fire colossus's
they always aim for head
what are you even talking about
"I continue to give him damage.... for minutes...." like bro what
are you complaining about a boss
about a class
about druid or sorc
wym
also what flea
fornite is waiting for you
I complaining that all the fun to find stuff in map and use is gone.
... Go... play squires to riches?
Flea is marketplace
I love marketplace
The fun of an extraction is to find stuff and useā¦the market ruin all for me
There is literally an entire game mode for you to play if you dont like market
I can build my phys healing kits and not want to close game when I lose it
deadass bro, squires to riches
out of all the complaints I've heard this is the most goofy one
specially 8 hours into market
Or...hear me out.. Instead of complaining about how you have no gear and mzrket is out, use the market to buy some gear lmao
no deadass, even if I had 0 gold to my name
I would go to normals malestrom
get out with 2k within 9 minutes
pull up to HR, get 3k per 10 minutes
Itās not fun as find in map and find player that have fear to loose their kit
Build gold storage, start buying cheap kits and saving the gems I get
Thats what squire to riches mode is for
oh you have yet to find the REALLY geared guys
if you drop them to half they get extremely nervous
Ive been running full gemmed blues in normals, and legendary in Hr since day 2, it has nothing to do with market
i honestly prefer market than ssf
even if everyone is running better kits
at least I don't have to look under rocks for the piece I want
I can build a full kit within 15 minutes on a single treasure run on water map
Ssf is cool for people that play normals but trying tk build an HR kit after dying is cancer
15 minutes that before the market you can use to playā¦.exactly what I hateā¦but imho the game with market is worse
you can do it too
Then play S2R until you have some gear sets saved
The thing is that without market I wouldn't even attempt lava collossus right now
I need a full phys healing drunk bard kit
to even have a CHANCE on phase 3 floor
without doing the no-no thing
Updated colossus is just cancer
I learned the new attack pattern
Been at work, did they release the workshop yet?
I managed to drop it to phase 3 in squire
15 times
I lay dead on the floor within the first 30 seconds
not a single hit from the boss
Does anyone know if thereās an mdb cap?
We killed the old one a lot in Norms before we knew about the butt cheese
there isn't techically
but if you stack will you get diminishing returns
nope.
Appreciate the info dude
patch hasn't rolled out yet
I figured as much, just havenāt been able to log in today
market is open tho
btw do we know what the workshop is going to be?
like a weapon mod system?
I hope they release it soon. I want to see how workshop works
like using dwarfes pickaxe heads to increase something but decrease other thing?
it may be very good or useless
btw has anyone seen the lava boss new drop?
Itāll probably be similar to arc raiders where you use lower tier loot to make better shit
Oh I see, when do you start getting diminishing returns? 50%?