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why this game is dead?
Ain’t no way they spent more time developing another map. The guys clearly copy pasted and now only know how to make maps lmao
yeah, who asked for a new map?
what about quiver? red portals rework, new perks and skills? reworking druid?
For this one? Assuming it's F2 goblin caves, a lot of people
"a lot of ppl"
if it is in fact F2 goblins i would be surprised they didnt make it like an LOTR underground goblin town
The community has clearly stated we want new classes, skills, perks, weapons, gathering hall and quiver but no lets make another map after the releasing one that is the opposite of their core game and everyone just leaves it as soon as they spawn on it.
I haven’t heard any big names mention it or even in this discord. Wild cope.
Think for yourself, new content incoming, new wipe in 8 days. Youll just cry dead game or why this new content. Lil dck
I’m just going off their record. When they focus on a new map other content gets put on back burner. Hopefully I’m wrong.
i've seen the dong of the man in your pfp
they have enough people to run multiple things at once in development paralell, its sdf who is the bottle neck, feeling the need to personally supervise, control and accept everything leading to endless delays and lack of content
That’s me
Perhaps... Only time will tell
Totally true. But I’ll let their record speak for itself.
im always in touch of severals communities in this game, american, brazilian; never seen F2P asking for new maps. They usually just want to know when is the next discount.
This is just ppl finding an excuse to justify any shit IM does.
How much did yall pay for this game to be trippin' about this type of sh
oh yeah, "you didn't pay enought to complain, just play bruh"
Exactly, the game slaps. New content is pumping. Tf?
in early days ppl used to say ppl like you were in a cult
Im new to disc, not the game G. It's gonna be alright.
anyone know if hardcore arena is gonna be ssf?
It better be man, no mid season changes. No grouping, ssf, no mini bosses.
Fingers crossed anyways
it probably wont matter since if you lose, your gear goes away anyway
yeah the game slaps that's why there's barely a thousand dudes logged in

Im not into stuff cuz everyone else is, I just play fun games. I am guessing since you're in this discord, you're similar.
I need 12 people in a rags to riches and I am pumping
most ppl who complain play more than 5h a day and are pvpers
Anything comes in, only the winning team's stuff comes out
Trust, I PvP
5hrs is light work when arena is actually on
I'm just saying, the amount of lil dck energy I read right before new content. Is wild as hell.
cool story from a zoomer who can barely speak
IM and SDF especially, have made a lot of stupid mistakes. A LOT, but there are a lot of people in this community who are very toxic, very entitled, or both.
That part ^
pumping and slapping and lil dck's, wild as hell
hey, haven't been around in awhile. i was curious, will marketplace be closed at the start of this new season?
likely yes, the ~2 week ssf at the start has been successful for past 2 seasons
Wild thought, All classes should be able to place down traps.
like how only barbs use to be able to break doors and now everyone can.
Rangers should only have a easier time placing them or make them so they do snare more time per tier.
like reduce the trap time and modify rangers perk so it last longer for them
it was for last 2 seasons and reception was very positive, no reason to think it'll be otherwise now
unlocked quests is also something I like, can quickly get to craftables
kinda off-topic but that just gave me flashbacks to early dad when traps were abundant because they held you for 6 business days and made you complete skill checks to escape early
needs to be a second floor to some map no way its a new map that would be like the worst decision ever
its more so the how early have you guys been playing and how much time have you guys put into the game, who ever has been palying this since play test 1 or 2 or whatever know that the game is like a love hate relation ship, we all miss how good we had it and what we once had
I am old school man, just didn't have a legendary acc back then to farm my cape. Regardless of all that, I just think being toxic about something you obv like is counter intuitive.
This is such a stupid topic going around since they released the HR rewards video. Bro is just a stupid template scenary that they did just to "film" the video. They do this all the time, when they put multiple actors and do the Shorts that they post on YouTube.
Y'all are freaking out about the most stupid thing ever, no, they are not releasing a new map
Someone yesterday was saying they believe it's level 2 to Pirate map, a volcano in the center Maelstrom
That's a very stupid idea because the "going down" portal in watermap is the middle spot, I know this because I tested it when the map came out, if you go all the way down you get a special debuff and because is not active yet you die when you reach the bottom
So how are we supposed to go from a bottomless pit into a volcano?
Imo the second floor should be very dark completely underwater with very few light spots to justify both the lantern and water breathing pots
Cuz rn water breathing pots are only for rushing stingray and nothing else
Volcano in the ocean makes sense to me given the rewards, just where on the map is the question
there are lots of volcanoes 🌋 underwater
The map is called ship graveyard. Volcanoes are more island stuff, the map is about water not beaches
how are we going from castle ruins to literal hell?
don't overthink it
KRAKATOA
That is a great thought, multiple entrances throughout pirate map
Because the kingdom got cursed? And the king was literally morphed into the lower level boss? There are 4 books in game talking about this
big explosion indeed, but why krakatoa now
idk just wanted to say it
hello sir, I am from epic support. Please post your full name, credit card number, date of birth, social security number and your moms maiden name and the name of your 2nd dog growing up. And our account team will be right on it.
or... contact epic instead of plonking it in a community discord
lmao
@glad thunder will u buy mobile version of this game?
It was the other way around, the mobile version bought it from IM a long time ago
Hey Ironmace thanks for ruining the greatest game ever made. Sell this game. Youre out of touch with your player base. Scroll back to the first comment I made. After the QA test.... of 300 or so people. I SAID DONT LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY KEEP YOUR ORIGINAL FOCUS... but instead... we got solos... then we got an auction house.... we got random modifiers that wernt needed and created min/max... every big thing you added from the community hurt your game... COOKED. may a small studio do what Ironmace did. Take something and make it better. Please steal all concepts and ideas and make them better. Everyone will follow. GG ironmace. Have fun catering to the wimp solos in the gobbys caves.
The mobile version closed today so I wanna know will sdf buy it
So we're a week out from wipe, any news on what is coming out with it or no?
nothin
So just wiping to wipe and hopefully get a pop in players for a couple weeks.
looks that way
Ya basically, allegedly gobbo layer 2 and some new perks/skills but given IM history pretty unlikely to be anything that matters significantly
They used to call that a semi-wipe. Guess that is all they got this time around.
lmao
Aged like milk in a car in the summer holy
Its been several seasons for me since I played but the news looks.... rough. Thinking of giving it one more try next wipe.
Just play now. Only difference will be your stuff is gone and your "collect 5 bracelets" quest will be reset. @solemn dagger
the game is down to like 2600 ppl on the norm but like we need a way to stop rat
Too deep in mh wilds atm. Lol!
how's performance read they fixed her
they just need gear score to hr then have like 250 and like 251 and above
that fixes rats kinda
"we do not have enough players, so we need to make it harder to play"
someone should promote this guy
@stone pantherpromote what?
you. to ceo.
clearly you are even more gifted in killing the game than sdf
maybe
Yes let's ride the extremely unpopular fish map out for a season or two. Brought to you by the people who thought adding fishing to a pvp game was a good idea.
I love water map
best map ever
I love Long John Silver's. Doesn't make it good.
thats your own opinion, not everyone will agree
most people don't. see how that works
im looking
check under the sea anemone
but the fun thing about this game is that you can choose the map you play
You are a sorry hater bud. The Blue Maelstrom map is a good map, and a refreshing addition to the game.
If you are expecting to play an MMO, you are playing the wrong game.
I'm not playing it I'm just here to check if there's been any changes for this season.
read anouncments thats where all changes are posted
Lookin like no. 4 people enjoying fish map and somebody about to tell me to take a hike for being curious about the lack of anything in announcements.
Season #8
- 7x7 maps
- new POI
- removal of Dark Swarm circle
- new map
- Expressman in every dungeon
- Quiver and backpacks
- Stash sort system
- new cape artifact
- new shield small artifact
- craft items
- SSF Arena
+60 new perks, spells, skills
why buy it? it was very different from the base game, they could do one themselves if they want to
same ole same ole
Can’t afford it
ofc is all of the negativity coming from old players that pushes new players away
Lol ^ this guy. Our words arnt overriding new players shit experience
It's really sad that people who can't program a smiley face in basic, want to tell game developers what to do.
Lol new players aint having fun playing with min/maxed sweats. They have more fun in the discord
^
Maybe it’s just because I joined at the end of season, but there is no fun rn. People just rushing kills, or maybe just how the game is designed? I thought when I started playing there would be opportunity to cooperate with people on dungeon stuff but I was wrong haha
@azure hawk Dont tell that to crossano
Lentil let me join you ingame
strawman bs. Have they announced anything about the new season coming in 8 days? "no" Why not? Is there nothing this season to hype up? "GFYS the game is great last season was great, they don't need to hype anything, i love all the game and maps and so does everyone else!"
Have they announced anything about the new season coming in 8 days?
yes?
no one reads anymore
No one helps anymore ***
can you get stingray egg from pve hr?
idk where it says that in announcements of SDFs kitchen
why read when can complain
Si
@slow scaffold thanks !
I’m suprised how many people are so negative about how the games going, knowing they were in a massive lawsuit for awhile that could have bankrupted them and been forced to close the game down. Why spend money needlessly on an early access game? Now they won the case, and were given 2 million to put towards it. This is where all that content they’ve been holding will be released
true its easier
good luck 🍀
oh it doesn't. guess they do their announcements in general meme chat since all the big streamers left
sorry i meant adventure mode pve
All modes you can
copy
🫡
this is just the last hotfix that fixes bugs
you'll be killing him 200 times before you get one tho
Cap I got mine in about 60-70
oh, only 70. EzEz

Is this true?
better then the hr juice kids teaming
Only tryna give him hope tbh
I got mine in normals solo’s nobody there to bug you and easy blues after you kill and no egg
the quickest way to get an egg is to farm arti's from ghostking and swap those out on the tradingpost, lol
they really need to fix the drop rate next season (or just flat out untie the stupid quest)
new map and 60 new spells/skills lol highly unlikely. if they did then that would be great though
yea, however it might be possible since the water map
guess we will find out on the 29th
artifacts drop too right?
when are we getting monk class?
it will never be
Monk is kinda too eastern for a game like Dark and Darker
will probably be the 30th but that is ok
Cope harder
dang i was gonna go rat on monk class lmao
Only hr pvp
Monk class on a european based medieval fantasy game
pretty sure that is the next class they are working on
realistically, how do kill someone on plate armor barehanded
copy that thanks
punch
bonk them in the head. plate was good against blades. blunt force not so much
oh? how do you punch someone who is in plate armor
you take fist. and throw it at them
@zinc sparrow Hopefully, the game development team won't make the same mistake as with the Sea of Shit map launch. Creating a new map means adding more maps but lacking players, which will only lead to even fewer players if it's a separate map. Instead, let all current maps connect to the new map, because generally, any area leads underground to volcanic lava, and the game's story will be completely connected. Players from all maps, upon descending through the red gate, will converge on one map, solving the player shortage problem. For example, the Hell map has too few players, so the Ruin map will have four layouts. Upon descending from Hell to the red gate, players will be rewarded by having all their inventory items sent directly to the Expressman NPC, and then a final battle will take place on the Lava map, gathering all players from all maps.
how fast can i earn the skin?
Praying we actually get some more lore next wipe
It didn’t take very long. As long as you don’t die a lot. Avoid pvp if you aren’t great at it. If you feel confident killing players does award AP as well.
have they ever actually done anything from there
No shot they are actually working on another map right?
Players also like to farm maps, get expert at them, find the juicy spots and get the phat loot.
Very few people like to trudge through multiple maps.
It would be good to give players the option of which map to go to next, or to exiting back to base, when they hit an exit portal.
More options, more fun, no more red and blue portals, just a pop-up selection of what you want to do / where to go next.
I’d said most likely another floor to an existing map.
I’d say*
they should remove the sea map and add the crypt in squires to riches rotation and the hell map too,
yes
Hoping they add Paladin/Death Knight class this year
What would it be another floor to tho? Gob caves? If they did they’d need to rework the reds finally otherwise there’s never gonna be a map you can properly PvP without people camping reds
Goblin caves is what people are hoping for from what I have seen but 3rd level ice is where most people are leading and I think it’ll be 2nd level water cuz that’s what would trigger everyone the most 😂
Please for the love of god buff Ranger, we need at least +5 weapon damage added to all bows and spear. Ironmace please make these changes to save your game
I just want to get enough money for egg, but freaks just rat and sit at the boss room never doing it for 3/4ths of the game, its crazy, like, you can have the kit if you want it so bad, I just want money T.T
3,300 hours later I have beat every boss, killed every streamer, had every artifact, guys I think it's time I put down the game and play something else.
bye
Just grow some food, it'll help balance
Just run around as a druid and wait for them to fight and kill eachother then when the other guys low just scoop his loot.

I already do that xD its quite fun
Ive been on hiatus. Any sign that the devs will unfuck this game? I periodically check player count and its never above 3k. Any light at the end of the tunnel or not really? Genuinely curious for those of you that keep up /regularly play
I played all night last night and every single game was a lobby of rogues and druids training groups of pve mobs into anyone bothering to actually play the game
I must become what I hate lol
and anyone not playing rogue/druid is shamelessly teaming
so no, the game is fucked and the devs think it's cute
bummer. This game use to be something special
unless they actually do something good for the game this wipe, prob wont happen ever.
sdf has publicly stated that "crow playstyle" aka "ratting" is a "valid playstyle" and he has said that teaming is "roleplaying" and also valid and part of the game, so that's not going to change
cant you get banned for teaming tho?
no lol
so then why can you report people for teaming?
Y u lying to bro 😭
So arena this weekend gonna start on Friday instead of Thursday?
Has anyone actually been banned for teaming?
teaming is supposedly against the rules in HR only, but to do anything about it, you need to have a clip of it happening and then make a report on the website. so unless you're recording the whole time you play and then take the time to make a report every single time it happens, which is multiple times a game every game, there's no chance, and even if you do, they probably don't ban them anywayy
so lulz
considering I’ve reported ppl for teaming, then gotten temp ban notif for that player… yes
so is valid but also supposedly agasint the rules. pretty much summarizes the company tbh
let me spend half my night clipping and reporting teamers kek
Oh only temp so it’s not that bad then
for sure let me do that
Slap on the wrist type beat
Supposedly it escalates to perm but I haven’t seen it myself
and that's only HR, I was playing sr2 last night and the teaming is just fucking rampant and it's completely fine lol
slap on the wrist for a "valid playstyle" 🤣 these devs are masterclass trolls
I didn’t even clip it. Just reported 2 guys and 1 got banned
nah youre lying. it was at least 20 mins of 1080p
Só other guy cliped the same dude
where did he say this tho? i just want to have the visual of his message saying this next to a screenshot of teaming being a report option 🤣 genuine masterclass trolls
sdf's kitchen is where he posts all his dumb shit
Hello teaming is against the rules in HR, if you see it report it.
People get banned for teaming
i thought so, just following up on this #game-discussion message
there is a person. some people think its a woman, some people think its a guy posing as a woman. she is terrorizing the north american LFG. it is a VERY bad experience playing with her. she has a reputation. please can we get this person banned?
Game philosophy for them I wouldn’t say is necessarily stagnant, when he made this statement he went back and made several changes that went directly against that.
I would not trust SDF’s word for what he wants for the game in the long run because he changes it so much
he did actually make that statement tho? 💀
Oh, yikes …
Yep, he also said we are going to go to space 
<@&988703997378584596> what u think about this guys pfp
ya get him tf up
outta here
corny 14 year old
Ban this guy please
But what do you call it, I don’t genuinely think he meant to much wrong by it.
He changes how the game is so much internally to see what works and what doesn’t.
If you look at how the game is now compared to a year ago it’s incomparable
Some for the better some for the worse
Sorry my daily noob question, Ive tried I think every piece of gear and I cant socket diamonds into anything. Is it a quest or something im missing?
diamonds are used to trade for other gems now
Diamonds are no longer socketable, and now can be transformed into any gem
you can't socket raw stats any more
Mostly for the worse, it seems
Gotcha where do I transform them?
At least what I read/hear
Sorry this game isnt easy to find answers to on google haha
bro reacted to my message but DIDNT ban him 😭 balright
Not really, some good changes have been made.
The only thing that makes this game fall off is the lack of priorities and bad balancing of characters
We don't discuss moderation
go to treasurer merchant and click services
The reaction is to let you know someone is working on it or looking into it
@rigid needle as far as I’m aware they are not able to outright ban people
my bad OG
ah
I actually think character balance is much better than a year ago, but all the other changes are trash. Water map, faustian, pve mode, druid...
oh im blind as shit thanks
no worries
to be fair thats something you cant really find out easily
Water map should’ve been pushed to later to focus on fleshing out the foundation of stuff
I’m pretty sure we are not getting gathering hall this wipe at all
water map should have been thrown in the trash when it was still a concept
Looking through patches and looking at opinions, it seems that the biggest con of this game is how it’s been turned from a dungeon adventure extraction thing to a pvp focused kill-fest.
Granted I have yet to start playing but it’s tough wanting to after hearing only negative things 😂
If anything it’s catered more to the adventure over the years
If it was anything like before, you would’ve had a rough time
The only real PvP tryhard centric thing added recently was arena
And I suppose Squires to Riches but I would say it appeals to newer players due to the fair grounds
arena could be great but it's yet another thing they deliberately make trash by picking modules with a single lane and overwhelming number of pve mobs and tons of cheese spots for double jump
ah yes, another arena match that comes down the three of us looking at a rogue simply sit in an unreachable spot waiting to draw the match, it's that great
Almost same game as pc version
is this game actually still alive?
Mobile died today
haaaaaaaaaaa
Pc version maybe will live a year more
i guess they milked it for what little ammount and effort they could before closing it
i figured they'd look away now that they got the nexxon payout. I figure the CEO will decide it's better to rebrand and go invest elsewhere
Thank you for this info mate, I didn't know either!
Faustian is a good dimension of the game, but to only be able to do it on death on the current map is not so great.
Let us earn something that let's us activate from the start.
We do like the current crafting system to blues for many items, but would like to go higher in tier.
Next patch, craft up purples from scratch!
Hey can someoneplay a game with me im an newbie
Anyone know when the upcoming wipe is
Is it true a lava map is coming ? And what’s the player population looking like
not sure im pretty new
You wanna play a quick goblin cave game
Only the rarest weapons in the game have an 'active' magic ability. Giving them to a class of sword would be unbalanced.
Yo
PLEASE ARTIFACT ARENA
we only have a couple days left in wipe can you guys please just bless us with artifact unique non crafted arena please
this game is cooked. running around in the dungeons and running into no one and no content for the wipe. we are done boys
This has been confirmed as a coming event if you didnt know btw 🙂
is this a serious game?
guys, what are the odds of me being able to get demigod in 1 week without been playing for the last couple of months? 😄
guess I'll wait another 3 months before considering reinstalling, its gonna piss me off aye
Depends on how much you can play, can easily do it in a week if you play a lot but if you only playing an hour a day not likely
make a tutorial
HR stingray better drop rate for the egg? or does it not matter...
could use help killing bladehand for quest - anyone up for it?
how many seasons of beta are there holy... AND THEY STILL CANT MAKE IT EASY TO GET OUT OF WATER, GLITCHED TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE WATER JUST TO FUCKING DIE
how long is this season? lasting?
7 days remaining
oh
is it wipe again ?
hence the rewards from this season, and yeah its a wipe
thats cool yeah ok I just came back tought there is more time to grind but I guess then in 7 days the grind beginns lol
haha yeah, idk if youve played the maelstrom map but its pretty cool, i like it. some dont some do
I tryed it its a cool design
yeah but getting out the water is tedious if you have mobs on you
fucking annoying... lost a bunch of unique stuff just now cuz of it
didnt now that it is buggy I found a boat in the middle of nowehere and just drove to shore
i was swimming
xD
ye sad days
how do i optmise this game? 16gb ram 1650 gtx getting stutters, but the task manager shows like 60% load
it's UE5
Do you have XMP or expo enabled
Extreme Memory Profile? nah i dont, the expo either, first time i hear bout them
Most ram kits support it, you can go into your bios and enable it for huge performance gains
Use xmp for intel and expo for amd cpu
wich cpu do u have?
i have ddr3 1600mhz ram dobeit... intel i7 4770k
😂
what gear limit is next arena??
yeah idc runs hunt fine unlike dark and darker smhow
Ddr3 can run XMP
idk try low video settings and and cap fps to idk 30 or something
where i can find info about the event of arena?
unrestricted meaning unique and artifacts. orrrrr squire :)
if u use Win 11 deboat ur system it could help
when are they fixing the fps for trios/duos
Hello, I've returned to this game. Well, I'll be back today, I suppose, but I wanted to know if this game has plans to return, or if I should just give up on playing again.
Wipe shortly. On the 29th. Should be popping after wipe for a short period if nothing else. Game is what you make of it tho.
Easiest way to get to demigod from scratch? LOL
HR water map was easiest for me. Lots of easy extracts. Just loot up and get out. Should be able to get 2-500 app pretty easily per run
Loot up and leave
HR PvE Count?
Ofcourse ofcourse lol, appreciate ya'll, gonna try my best
Good luck 👍
Water map is fun idk why ppl hate on it
Use lfg channel
Water map arena 👀
Remove arena 👀
Thx
just sell the game already
fun doesnt mean good
its horrible for pvp
Fun for solo not so much trios but you can say that for every map ngl
add paladin
There is smite + divine protection Cleric 😅?
Im no Dungeons and Dragons expert, so whats the difference 😭?
no add paladin
Hahaha I think they may eventually have that in the scope but probably not for a couple more classes I would assume 😅
is this game wiping soon
Yes! Wipe is scheduled for the 29th 🙂
(Of this month) xd
sick
cleric is bonky paladin is slashy
come to think of it, hybrid platelock is more of a paladin than smite dp cleric
2 loser druids running around HR solo teaming what else is new
Only 2? That's new
not even an entire zoo
How can I report a player that robbed me of full chests for an Egg?
He was a druid
lol
With a long name that was nust random numbers and letters.
theyre not really planning in losing gear in arena are they?
servers glitched? we d/c twice from lich and sent back to tavern
yeah i'm stuck too
Oh yeah, this next wipe's gonna be insane bois
Do we gonna have dwarven dungeon map next season
You meant we will get 5 damage for axe specialization? Or god forbid 3? Man I'm stoked
no
yes
7 DAYS
are any queues valid anymore? I've struggled to find other players for several games
WE'LL BE MONKING AROUND IN 1 WEEK FAM
crazy to think 2 years ago dad had 500k views from blooprint and is now down to 2k players
if they did nothing to their game it would be in a better state
80/20 that not actual content will come from this wipe
that's total fake news
which class to go from 0 to demi in a week? Warlock is a strong contestant aye?
Just bought Redstone shards and they didnt hit my acc.... What do I do?
first mistake is buying redstone shards. scooping water out of a sinking ship.
Is it too late to grind for season rewards?
i needed $5 for the frost cloak... said y not and didnt even get them
yikes. guess you got scammed. jokes aside, give it some time, and if it doesn't show up, open a ticket with them.
tm warlock on ice cave can get you there quick.
i think we are getting hell level for goblin caves, volcanic theme due to latest communit annoucements
Adding more maps is always good we need more queues
Stingray going to be pretty hard swimming through lava ngl
This is the only playstyle that’s fun
Getting called slurs after coming out of nowhere and killing someone as a panther in 2 hits is the most rewarded I’ve ever felt
guys, we're getting a lot of feedback that combat feels like it's underwater all the time, slow and so forth. i think the solution is clear. make a water map that's even slower.
people will literally kill themselves out of fear of boredom on entry to the level. it's genius.
I find that in most of my barbarian encounters i end up just using the felling axe because spacing with the bardiche is a lil tough when you move so slow

I suppose i should start dex maxxing then
I think 30-40% action speed would require a lot of gear
Getting 3 tapped by a longsword in S2R is rough
Perhaps its because i'm using war sacrifice when i should just use achilles or savage roar
War sacrifice just seemed to nice, thought i'd try it
will the winter cloak be available without a bundle? I would feel scamed cause I bought the hole bundle already
Finally SDF announced Druid is no longer a class, being replaced by Monk. Big ass W
i love lagging for 5-7 seconds at a time in pvp combat on a 6 thousand dollar pc
games boring new map is just delaying the inevitable
war sac aint shit
any update on what this new season is gonna be about?
Is there anything in #📢announcements ?
Damn there are so many holes in the geometry on goblin caves, I just went from the big elevator room to the top corner of the map just through the walls in rat form
ya it's almost like the maps weren't designed to be played on by tiny players
who could have seen these problems coming, impossible!
I take it you don’t like Druid
it's just funny how predictable the problems are, it's the same as when double jump was released and suddenly the game was just rogues everywhere on top of ruins and shit
omg how could this happen
That's been a major issue in several extraction games, with rogue having an excessively high escape rate. Since they aren't good at game design, and never will be, I'd expect this to continue
Have they not updated maps to account for anything? It seems like you’re right in that they’re introduced without much forethought
I hope Ryan’s game is good, looks promising
Also I find it funny how, it seems, that since Druid came out the only changes are that the rat squeaks automatically and the panther can’t dash in water haha
nothing is worth anything
no way to make money rn i have to spend 2 hours to farm 6k gold
Go farm egg easy 200k
It’s hard and annoying but people buying it for alot
Easily a couple artifacts
ya but id have to learn stingray and that boss is cancer
and eevryone is always fighting
I taught someone in a hour how to do it
do i need to be warlock
No fighter is best and easiest
wait how much are stingray eggs rn
To learn atleast
Idk the exact amount sorry :/ ik they will make us some money tho
"If you gain nothing out of it, why risk gear on this arena "event" if you can still run (and gain new gear) for 3 days in pvp?
It should at the very least give you the enemies gear. 100% risk 0 reward. Make it make sense. MAKE IT FULL LOOT ARENA THIS EVENT!!!"
#the-tavern message
"It was intended to have looting, but it didn't make it in.
How it will proceed is being considered and it will be explained in the next patch." - Graysun
#the-tavern message
If u can loot enemy, most lobbies will be blue gears lol
BRING BACK STATIC MAPS
wasted 6k
do ropes not work in zone in frost map? or is that a bug
So is potion chugger worth running? 20% more healing for 50% less duration seems like not the best deal. Does it work with all potions?
I haven't tried it yet so i think i'll give it a shot
it's pretty nice since it makes potions heal significantly quicker
yes and it is really good
not at all, it's an amazing and tyrannical machine on every other game, application and everything else
try to bring in some troll blood as well
potion+troll blood you heal like 3hp in 1s
buying a deathblom hmu
fix artifact arena por favor
lowkey wanna run a artifact kit
Make wizard great again and introduce casino in this game or if both things aren't done close the game!
so they aint gonna change arena back for the wipe ??
nerf wizard
space map or is the game still dead
Get out of here laliberte
No
bro thinks the main point of chugger is a disadvantage
"If you gain nothing out of it, why risk gear on this arena "event" if you can still run (and gain new gear) for 3 days in pvp?
It should at the very least give you the enemies gear. 100% risk 0 reward. Make it make sense. MAKE IT FULL LOOT ARENA THIS EVENT!!!"
#the-tavern message
"It was intended to have looting, but it didn't make it in.
How it will proceed is being considered and it will be explained in the next patch." - Graysun
#the-tavern message
the devs are just incredibly brain cell deficient bro
Wizard is busted.
As if true invis wasnt broken enough does it really have to break fucking mob aggro? nothing more cringe than fighting a rogue who aggros 20 mobs and just hits invis once and now they fight for him perma
So, the first bit of news regarding the wipe is just cosmetics, got it
Hi All! I dont mean to be a bother but I just got the game and I just needed some help learning it.
best chance usually is the lfg tab here in discord hard game to learn without someone to play with at first will burn you out but with pve im sure that might be different now
Oh okayy thank you so much for the help Im getting into new types of games and this seemed very interesting ! I will check that out see if I can land on a kind soul lol!
who tf is paul 😭
clown moment
Run
Run?!
yes
Making arena hardcore is the dumbest thing ever let’s make it so u lose your gear but u can run anything
can't message people you meet
can't play as a party above 2.2k mmr
can only play HC arena with premade parties of three
The pay-to-winners are gonna be in full stride for the Hardcore Arena 😂
I wanted to run my artifacts what the fuck
hardcore arena and its just slop
nope you lose your items:) (people will play this game)
No item restrictions losing team will lose gear have to be premade teams of 3
Yes. Game is dying. Population in the gutter. Developers absolutely disconnected from playerbase building a "vision" literally nobody asked for. Its fun for a few hours until you realize you need to put in 2000 more hours to be decent.
Man potion chugger really is crazy
the fuck are they thinking, you lose ur shit when you lose? thats the most bonkers ass shiet ive ever heard, its just a worse HR
2000 hours to be decent is crazy
Absolutely the dumbest thing ever I was so excited to play arena tomorrow and now I’m not even gonna hop on loss of another player because they just can’t do anything right
People don’t even care to clown emote your updates anymore. How does that feel?
i will play squire lol
No point hoarding your item right before the wipe. Stream going to be really fun to watch .
Surely some can get there in far less. I know i haven't
What is the point of the arena if we lose all the items anyway, dumb idea
Would have been nice to use my artifacts without losing them in arena but no let’s just make it so nobody at all plays arena
Oh okay I see that sounds like a lot of work lol but i mean its fun right?
fr fr
What hoarded items, this primarily caters to gold buyers
MAKE IT SO WE DONT LOSE OUR ITEMS IN ARENA
dos sdf know what fun is wipe evnt is for fun lol is he not smart
Glad that we got to have SSF Epic cap Arena for a while. That was fun. See you in a week.
all 9 people in arena are gonna have blast in the event! its gonna suck for whichever team has to wait fo the other two to finish fighting tho :/
yo @glad thunder @zinc sparrow @little summit how do you guys miss with every single update? get @pulsar ocean or @shell ermine to review every update from this point forth, please and thank you.
At first
Just remove "primarily", I'm pretty sure this ONLY applies to gold buyers lmao
MAKE IT SO WE DONT LOSE OUR ITEMS IN ARENA KEEP THE NO ITEM RESTRICTION
Hey, there's also streamers getting items gifted by gold buyers
I mean, thats the same thing really lmao
no kidding
games dih 💔 🥀
honestly why not Squire Arena, or making the drop rate of high-tier items insanely high so people can actually play with the cool artifacts at the end of wipe?
is the lose items you get to loot the loser or the items are sent to the void?
I think I still want to try it at least. I havent played this type of game before I believe
Increasing or decreasing redstone ?
I'll think about it
By all means. Don't let me being salty stop you
stfu
🔥
chip stop rating and fix the game
They clearly want this game to die why would they want anyone to have fun
Arena sucks anyway, play the real game
I take it you have been playing for a while?
seems pretty clear to me. the only way any company would deliberately make these kinds of decisions back to back is if they're intentionally trying to sabo their own game
gg the game
Only maybe 1200 hours. Others have played far longer.
Literal jokers making this game
It’s clear to everyone why the fuck can’t we have artifact arena tomorrow but NOT lose the gear absolutely clowns
it had so much potential, RIP game
you know its not great when I have to say Tarkov has better updates than this game lmao
Holy fuck! lol I have that many hours playing like FPS lol trying to learn something new lol
Artifact arena was so much fun and they just ruin it I don’t get it
...
Where is the separate news feed for the Redstone info?
Not a soul will be on arena who wants to lose their gear in 3s
Yes i know lol

No mobs no item restrictions is all we ask and they’re like let’s just make it u have to be in a premade 3 man and if u lose u lose your kit

any idea what happens to the lost items?
premade three-man AND you lose your kit on death lmao
this game had the most potential then most game it could've rival tarkok and i can see it being top 10 games out but sdf want to make a game that he only likes
Literally the worst update I’ve ever seen I’d rather axe spec get changed again
its actually incredible how they managed to ruin it so much
I was actually so stoked to play arena made like a 60k kit for my db and it’s for nothing I’m gonna go lose it to Chinese rmt wall hacker
Wait so why would anyone play this new arena event lmao
lmaoooo this game is gonna be dead ash this wipe
I wanted to enjoy some lad and db arena and they just decide to ruin it for everyone I don’t understand
If u won and u received the other teams gear id be all for it
Doesnt sound like that tho lol
i thought the event was gonna be an actual event
whole point of arena is to have fun with your kits and they just killed arena lmao
Like u get to just pick a kit or something that I could understand
nothingburger season
all risk no reward
good boy
They made it so u have to have premade 3man which is horrible I have no other friends to play with
WATER MAP IS AWFUL
🐶 😏 ruff ruff
There's two separate, entirely different reasons not to play Arena at all during this "event"
It’s not an event it’s a push to get the 3k players to be 0k players
I'm pretty sure that one end of wipe event in Tarkov that replaced all Scavs with Scav Raiders was more fun than this shit
Would be fun if it was just any gear goes, dont loose items
they hate that arena is the most played game mode so they just kill it
CHIPPPPP
Like why the fuck would they do that NOBODY WANTS TO LOSE THEIR GEAR NOBODY WILL PLAY ARENA CHANGE IT BEFORE ARENA DROPS TOMORROW
reminds me of when sub-25s was the most played game mode so they killed that too
u will make more gold runing the name in hr 02h then u will in a Arena is that not just dumb
PREMADE TEAM AND LOSING TEAM LOSES GEAR NEEDS CHANGED
boycott arena
start a riot this is bullshit
I’ve been hoping for artifact arena for what 2 wipes now and they just RUIN EVERYTHING
i havent been playing this ass of a game since the arena changes and now its worst lmao
Literally dont need to. No one will be in it lmao
No premade teams, No losing gear, use all your best stuff, artifacts included... how it should be. losing your gear sucks for arena fr. and all the homies quit playing so no pre made teams for me, all my giga arena kits dont matter now
Why is every update such a nothing burger holy fk please give me a reason to come back it’s been months
Check back in a week when the wipe drops sir. 
@glad thunder online in your arena will be VEEEEERY big
If you gain nothing out of it, why risk gear on this arena "event" if you can still run (and gain new gear) for 3 days in pvp?
It should at the very least give you the enemies gear. 100% risk 0 reward. Make it make sense. (SPREAD THE WORD)
real talk. have you or any of the other creators tried to contact the devs about the obvious mistakes they’ve made over the years? and potentially given guidance as to what needs to happen? or are they just blatantly ignorant or arrogant, or are they just fully oblivious?
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK
Well the problem isnt the "Devs" its the "Dev" who bottlenecks and fks everything (SDeeeeF)
They aren’t oblivious at all they know very well what they’re doing. Extreme arrogance and incompetence.
also banning the word SDF is crazy work lmao
there ya go.
its probably definitely all PARTYCHIPS fault
I sit in the partner chat and permanently list issues with the game, I run polls on youtube and post screenshots of 75% of the playerbase saying they don't like druid and stopped playing cause of it. Other people do it to but a lot of them went to apogea past week or two
add paladin
yep. crazy. they’ve been sitting on a literal goldmine for ages but they’re just incompetent
Literally
Ayyy my favourite obese youtuber what’s upppp
Balright
i hate to say it but hopefully this game drops to 50 players and sdf can learn a lesson on how not to ruin a game
Speaking of Druid OP, i just killed a DB rogue on my druid. Was that you my lil bug?
FDS CAN WE PLEASE REMOVE THE LOSE OF GEAR FOR ARENA ITS ALL RISK 0 REWARD REMOVE IT NOW WE WANT TO PLAY ARENA AND U RUIN EVERYTHING
FartyChip and the Yamster carrying this game 😭
with 5 viewers
Game death?
U have 40 minutes
lol screw arena ima just go play hr
No it’s going to be an esport next year
im going all in on nothing ever changes
😂
- im not your lil bug 2. you would get owned 3. i would have a viola and a db 4. your a twerp
😭
i did rat a viola kit last night was that u??
Hush now my lil bug. I wanna hold that viola too and then you can hold something for me lil bug
ye can i have it back
LOL
lol for a shoutout and 20 bucks u can
😭😭😭😭
you're*
yo this gotta be the worst idea so far bro. @shell ermine this gotta be your fault some how lil gup
@shell ermine someone needs to do something
Participation is limited to pre-made parties of three players, and no monsters will appear on any map. There are no item entry restrictions, and defeated teams will lose all of their items.
Can you loot the enemies if you win? @zinc sparrow
he is NOT responding to u lil bro
Problem is they would have to design an entire loot distribution system from scratch to make that work, so they 100% did not do that and therefore we will not get enemies kits @shell ermine
Yeah IDK Chip running this game into the ground
Because they cant let you loot them as soon as they die, it has to be upon a defeat
im chipping it on cam if they revert the lose all
He's chipping out!!
link ur cringe edit chip
Guys ngl if no one plays arena they’ll just never do a change like this. If everyone still plays it tho we’ll probably just see this again
Imagine how happy and positive the community would be if before arena releases tomorrow they revert the lose all change. Someone should hire me @zinc sparrow
Nah, they would still complain about something
glad somebody asking that question lmao
6 hour patch incoming
6 day patch incoming
you're*
Who’s excited for some Lava 😌
party chip sold me za za
party chip sold me boof behind 7/11
and f e n t
same and im a minor
Party chip is the best player in the game
w glaze
wipe ya lips when you done homie
Hes not gonna let you hit lil bro
Already did
party chip alt account?
oh... well... awk
@zinc sparrow fix arena
Crap
all 7 viewers punching the air rn
I eat rocks and sticks
are you the second coming of Joey Chestnut? you have to be with this amount of meat swallowing
rekt & hold that
why tf do we lose kits on arena loss now??? that has to dumbest change ive seen yet
agreed, dumb, I'd rather lose my kit in the dungeon if it's gonna be lost
It's all a part of the "vision" lmao
The Lava is apart of the vision 😌
i remember being a 500 hour andy a year ago and being so excited and having so much faith in sdf
squires to nothing arena then i guess killing a full kit team with squire kits hahaha then looks like
I wouldn't have faith in him making me a sandwich.
then he fkd match making, and hardcore, and he fkd norms, and now hes fkd arena TWICE in one season
so you lose your stuff?
Wtf... So IM finally removes mobs from arena, which has been heavily requested from day 1 arena... BUT... You lose all your gear now 🤯
I won't be surprised if they bring back arena mobs next wipe because of low player count in THIS arena test... 🙃
i made a 60k sorc lego kit for arena just for it to be epic sff only
a friend had said in reddit that hardcore arena leaked was you lose your stuff was true
this shit sucks why experement now?
i just didnt believe they would do such a worthless move
Holy shit , 9k hours on this game and they still make the most stupidest changes.
whats funny is you know no1 reads this thread so the patch is gonna go through
when else would you do an arena event where you use all of the wealth and gear you've gathered over the course of a wipe to compete in arena than the last weekend before it wipes and a new season starts?
they could care less what everyone thinks
I dead ass rather run my nameds in raid and have fun to try and get more lmaoo so dumb
imagine losing ur BiS kit in a couple arena games, then what.... YOU DONT PLAY THE GAME
do they even try to make this game playable
you pull out the next because you've had an entire season to build wealth
Terrible idea for sure. But I understand where they are coming from.
- end of wipe
- ppl got extra gear to lose
- ppl got moneybags
The pre-made requirement is cuz random queue would’ve been toxic as hell.
Shoulda made it so that you won one of the enemies gearsets instead.
not many people have tons of named items and BiS kits like us tho
I have been waiting for no mob arena since arena day 1... And now it's not even worth playing.
Start of a wipe maybe, before anyone has items so they can see if people even interact with it
then I guess they won't be interested in the event that was called "hardcore arena" for the past month, either way 3 days later their gear gets wiped too when the next season starts
AHHHHH IT BEGINS. SERVER MAINTENANCE. HOPE YOU PUT YOUR KITS IN YOUR STASH BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET DELETED
Vast majority of players don’t build wealth like that.
I’m 3k hours in. I had max 10 mill at once. But now? Nah. I just spend whatever I got and run it. Other than to buy arena gear and religion, there’s no use in having crazy wealth.
Just get a DB as a backup stash and run your bank every raid. As long as you’re good you’ll be net positive.
yo wrong discord chud ur spose to message them in the creator only one 
u cant say its a good decision tho
Sounds like someone who doesn't have the Head of The Midnight Stag. A poor peasant
You must rmt a fck ton if you had 10 mil are you ok in the head?
im gonna huff a harpys fart ong
If you can farm artifacts from bosses it’s not that hard to believe somebody might 9-5 this game like it’s their job
Nah back before they shut it down there were gambling streams.
I can farm and get up to a mil if I want to but the inventory management is just dumb. Artifact farming is easy af.
I’ve also made a good bit by playing the market before while I do work from home.
Sure. It's just sad and kinda pathetic
Yes
I think it's interesting, I'd like to see who comes out #1 on the leaderboard for the event since it'll be whoever has the most kits saved up and the skill to make them last
no different to me than hosting an invite only tournament other than the fact that anyone can technically participate if they want
a viola is worth like at least 300k rn, its not impossible or even too hard to get 1+mil
if you play trios i guess but most play solo
Brother are we in the gambling era ? This arena bs is now there is actually no way you had 10 mil during this wipe without rmting or no lifing this game 🤣🤣
TRIOS ARE FOR COWARDS WHO CANT STAND ON THEIR OWN. REAL CHADS PLAY SOLO
I never said this wipe?
Just nobody play arena that's it in sure when there is literally nobody and 30 mins waits I'm sure they will change that it's so bad like who comes up with these ideas or plans smh 😤😲🤔
Sure if you want to grind for hours for a kit to lose with absolutely nothing to gain then by all means play that dog game mode 🤣🤣
I do most artifact farming solo. Quicker that way cuz you can just squire it. Deaths mean zip so u just queue up again.
true, then run red, its what i do on cleric
most of the player base dosent know how to i would guess
somehow @zinc sparrow is an even worse community manager than the previous horrible ones 
Idrk what you’re talking about. Genuinely confused.
Yup. Easiest shiii
Just learn ghost king and buy hella bandages. If it’s a dead sever, I can get an HR GK kill in once every 12-15 mins.
Bruh I killed the dragon like 20 times the past 2 days and no artifact
i did ghost 60 times this wipe and only got 2 artifacts, but i think i just got unlucky
IVE LITERALLY NEVER KILLED A BOSS HOLLER AT YA BOI
I thought I can have fun by playing with Artifacts at the end of the wipe at least no concerns to cheaters
If they didn't give me that push of fun I guess I'll take my hand of from this game again!
Dragon is lower drop rate than GK.
If you’re looking for speed when it comes to money, GK farming is fastest. Think it’s double the drop rate of dragon. And even more so for lich/warlord.
its 6% for drop
so yeah just a tad
If you can kill GK in 15 mins you’re guaranteed an artifact every 5-6 hours.
So whenever I play I just do it while I wait for my groups to form.
Dragon has a better drop rate and the frozen key room had a higher drop rate then GK unless it changed
changed a while ago
idk abt key room but drag is 3 gk is 6%
The drop rates used to be high but GK has always been the highest.
Now, GK is highest by a long shot - followed by dragon - lich/warlord - skull key room - dual boss rooms
Circus Arena
Man just make it so in arena you get your opponents loot
i got a famine and soulscraper over the span of months and in my experience its better to just play solos
you dont get the loot?
agree
you lose your gear if you die and you dont get their gear
Yeah artifact farming isn’t my prime way of making money really. I make most of mine off arena gear as of recently, but I’ll also farm up crafting ingredients like the Banshee drop.
why play then?
yeah!
only rank and arena perks ig idk
WHY TF WOULD U LOSE THE GEAR IF U LOSE IN ARENA THE WHOLE POINT IS FOR PVP
they dont think
why play then!!!
Just don’t play. Thats the best you can do to send the message.
fuck sdf
i agree
Even if you do play, the credit card gamers are gonna be dominating with artifacts and full unique sets.
just imagine how cool would it be so you fight and its kinda like a risk all your gear but you also get the chance to fight for the opponents gear, it has really no downsides, pairment is random, its just like a buckshot roulette of gear
First time heard this
Boss still doesent drop enough tho. Idk how all these artifacts are spawning…
There’s a link that has every current drop rate somewhere in the Reddit threads. Think you can find it if ya google.
It’s more up to date than the wiki. Seems like the wiki just gave up
How do they plan to save this game? Where will new players come from? Is it something like adding it to consoles that might do it some good with heavy advertising?
they have to make dark and darker 2
They just legit do not care.. sadly. Best game ever they refuse to balance and manage it tho. Just Q up and die to a Druid in an expensive kit you grinded hours for
This game has really disappointed me. It’s actually a great game, but every update only results in further disappointment. This time, I simply can’t see any reason to play the Arena mode anymore.
People complaining about the arena that is onlya ctive over a THREE day span are actually being dumb. THey want to test so let them. Just dont play and get a life etc play arc raiders and then come back later
@zinc sparrow PLEASE DONT RELEASE ARENA WHERE U LOSE GEAR
Alot of first timers in here 😭 welcome
Nah they just need to make it more balanced and versatile.
This games fanbase is loyal and they’ll come back (no matter how much they’ll whine.) they just need good gameplay and progression.
I hope they didn’t waste resources on a new map… they need updates to spells, abilities, and perks.
They did that twice already it was basically same game but without random modifiers -_-
Arena gets worse every update.they need to leave it blue only @zinc sparrow Until end of season then do artifacts allowed with item retrieval
NOONE playing that arena event lmfaoooo
PvP during that time felt CRISP I’m ngl.
Looting and everything else wasn’t great…
BUT THE PVP FELT SO GOOOOD
that or purples, everyone agrees, they wont listen though for some reason
sweaty RMT's that got a whole tab of artifacts stored will. The whole point of it for them
plastic mallet is the worst game development company ever to exist and its not even close
@zinc sparrow PLEASE REVERT ARENA CHANGES WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ALL RISK NO REWARD D:
I dont agree with any of that, really. They definitely need new maps, not the experimental type, fix the water map, easy to do really and just keep the theme, then i guess i DO agree with FINISHING THE CHARACTERS for sure. Druid imcomplete, same for warlock, many other things. The ehting you said about the pvp being good doesnt even make sense. "smooth" wtf does that even MEAN? You have to actually say something about it not just say 'smooth ngl' wtf
i remember when sorc came out and lighting storm was broken so everyone was 1 shotting everything for like a straight day lol
Purple only is too high of gear score. Demon glee and spectra blade are game ruining. Requiem also too good. Game only plays good in blues. Simple as that.
This game has gotten worse and worse over the past two years, and the company responsible for its operation has truly disappointed me.
wat then why were the top players wizards and sorcerers lmfao
Definitely need maps. But with their teams limitations, they can’t focus in on everything.
Gameplay first - finishing mg classes. Make that good. Make pvp good.
Then add new map which can add new PvP elements to balance .
no
This games FANBASE is not coming back until official release day, im 100% sure. its dead until then. Ill do squires to riches a few times a week but mostly arc raiders, working harder in real life, i joined USTA, but i really want to quit all that and just play dark and darker a year from now once its 'done'
noone uses crafted gear in pvp alot/arena adds a reason to craft and do quests for purples/purples have widely already been agreed upon to be the most balanced of all, blues just mean true dmg wins no matter what.
Demons glee cant do anything against a wizard fyabaw ing you 10 times to the dome
holy fk my next wizard name is fyabaw i cant bleive i didnt think of that until just now im a n00b
HEY LISTEN my arc raiders gamer tag is VeNjunse#7888 add me for video gam ing amirite
In fact, if he simply strengthened the measures to deal with cheaters, the game could once again see over 30,000 players online.
the biggest problem is the gap. The next step from currently blue's is uncapped HR.
where purp is pretty much useless against geared up players. Making the craftables useless and expensive
they need to pick a rarity for each pool and then add top pool craftables for each of them. Or dont even bother
Problem with fixing a game is whenever you fix something like a dark and darker game you break many other things, there's too many variables in the equation, basically for example fixing something fucked up with rogue maybe breaks something with druid, but also breaks something with the items in castle, but also breaks arena pvp, and so on and so on, fixing bugs in this game must be hell, its the problem with online games and adding new maps, what i would do is rotational maps for each season, so that way you can focus on fixing the maps for that season instead just trying to fix everything at once
This is completely false. I almost never see cheaters in any capacity and even if that was the case it wold be getting them zero players back. Not sure why people literally lie about some cheater problem
Hardcore arena needed to be pre made is not good 🙁
@trail flicker Let me tell you a secret: at least half of the players in Tokyo’s third-ranked ranks are using cheating techniques to gain an advantage. You haven’t encountered any of them yet simply because your equipment is poor.
Goda damnit why is everyoen saying things that are objectively wrong. How could fixing rogue ruin a druid? Just spouting nonsense like the other complainers. You can tjust pretend balance is bad if you have no reason for it
Maybe have like a armor rating requirement for hardcore arena

I have to lose my armor in the arena because I lost? Seriously?
Harecore arena should have armor rating requirement for random queue
Not sure what you mean by any of that, but you wont be able to offer any real words towards it. My gear is better than yours by far and i havent played in two months, kid.
Like 500 rating
At present, at least a quarter of the daily active users are experienced cheaters, all of whom are Chinese and profit from this behavior.
I said bug wise not balance wise, Im not complaining about the classes im saying as a dev you can fix something and fuck another thing
I have no friends i solo only 🙁
maybe in your china servers yeah but widely cheats are not a problem. the game is dead because the developers are horrible and do not optimize, add content, etc
Yeah anyone that likes the doja cat song isnt very bright so im okay with it
man..
I spend $300 every month on equipment purchases. I have more experience dealing with cheaters than you do.

What does equipement purchases mean? You might, but cheaters are not a problem then acording to you right?
@limber acorn you must suck really bad then
You’re right; the rampant cheating in China has ruined this game. But even more crucial is the terrible management of the game over the past two years.,fuck,sdf
you buy gear?
Thank you I guess I'll focus more on GK
just play the game
I don’t have that much time to accumulate equipment; I buy it just to make the gameplay easier, nothing more.
Some player told me they were cheating and that is how they know i was cheating. I'm just really really good at the game though. Like wow, god said "hey, ur amazing at everything" like gee, thanks god what do i say to that
still kinda weird
you do you tho
You don’t understand: many Chinese cheaters use cheating to obtain high-value equipment. Sometimes, they can even get $200 in a single day.
@glad thunder MAKE IT SO WE CAN LOOT THEIR ITEMS LAST ROUND
@glad thunder make hardcore arena be able to queue up with randoms but have a armor rating limit like 500
I have no friends and i wanna play arena its my fav mode
i get it now 🤣 🤣
I was building unique kits for arena and now i cant since it has to be pre made
It’s the company and their development team that are ruining this game. It had so much potential, and I really loved it. However, every update has been terrible—this has been the case for the past two years.
How would you fix the game according to you because so far I only heard the cheating problem in china servers, but other than that what else
Every one would play
they better give us monk class on next seassion as they said they where going to
i think they said the opposite #sdfs-kitchen message
@glad thunder make us win their gear or lose all players lol what are you doing, I have 5k hours and this is the worst thing you’ve ever done next to removing random stats on the gear
so they lie on twitch stream lol
Make hardcore be able to queue up with randoms wtf just have armor rating limit like 500 or 600
Im sure trolls wont be able to just have 20 green bandages or blue
It cannot be overlooked that this game has a huge market in China. The immediate goals are to increase the number of daily active players, to facilitate new players’ ongoing participation in the game, and to encourage existing players to remain active and engaged. That’s basically it. First, add more entertaining modes, such as permanent or named arenas for competitive play. Second, introduce personal rooms to lower the barrier for new players to get started. This game is in serious need of better tutorial systems and ways to form teams. no.3 let sdf go fucking die
The current problem with this game lies in the company’s lack of action regarding its operation. It’s been two years already—haven’t you guys noticed this issue yet? This is clearly a officially released game, yet with each update, I feel as if I’m just a guinea pig in their tests, paying to participate in their experiments. SDF and their team completely disregard the players’ feelings and experiences.
I also think achievements in game are kinda pointless, we should be able to get like cool titles regarding whatever we do in game, killing bosses, killing a specific set of mobs, killing x number of real players, etc, that's a good way of rewarding your playerbase so whatever you do in game doesnt feel like its for nothing, also this is a real problem, the inventory system needs a complete rework, I get the idea of the game making you order your stash and all that, but at least make it easier to organize the stash after a match is ended, im not talking maybe about in game stash but after game stash, its so painful to move bandages, potions etc each map, im killing my mouse moving things
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its kinda pointless at some point when you have x number of hours in game and you stil have to painfully move each item, the new buttons are not enough
that there are monk next seasson and Quivers after that one
Or maybe add a way so in the merchants you can set a preload of your previous game on what you bought, like "recently bought" thingy, or "latest used" something among those lines
There are shortcut keys, my friend.
Im talking about item categories more like
the fill items thing was really good
Good ole ranged and ranger still going strong?
As someone who has their money in '50 gold' pouches. I can tell you that trying to fill up a chest for the tradingpost is not a fun expierence
Is this game still good? Haven’t played since it came out
Guys are there working codes
whatd they do to redstone shards
halved price to purchase and doubled price of all shop items.
so... nothing. But now instead of some emote costing 5 shard = 10 bucks. It will be 10 shard=10 bucks. So it does make things a bit easier to understand for people i'd guess
xDDDDDD
Probably some futureproofing regarding legislation with virtual mtx currencies.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_831
anyone else seeing the shop have the same prices and I have the same amount oif shards?
now everyone sees you have reading comprehension issues
thats not very nice
im angy now 🙁
bich
its valid angy

so its after wipe then mabye?
steam clown moderation banned me on forum for saying "you shouldn't be turning off anti cheat" menwhile the guy who did it now bumps old threads and tells people its fine to do it and game runs ok
Kinda wild to think the beta fire elemental is coming back
Wonder what other classic inferno assets were gonna see
im oce and literally almost every game i play theres cheaters in them. i wake up to multiple temp bans everyday. theres definitely a cheating problem, im not sure about euro or na but in asia/oce its a huge problem
So basically, they didn’t do anything. They’re just trying to scam everyone. You can even find the information on their website—it literally says that if a skin currently costs 6 Redstone Shards, its price will change to 12 after the EAS8 update.
All existing Redstone and Bluestone Shards in your inventory will be doubled, but the prices of everything will be doubled as well.
So this is complete bullshit: you get twice as many shards, but everything you can spend them on costs twice as much.
its just to give them more price flexibility, before everything had to be an even dollar amount price (2,4,6,etc.) now it can be any amount. becasue shards used to be 2 dollars now theyre $1
Who says that?... before everything had to be an even dollar amount price (2,4,6,etc.....There used to be items you could buy for 3 shards, or even for 1 Redstone Shard.
yea but 1 restone shard used to be 2 dollars, now its 1 dollar
This allows us to set cheaper prices.
can you set the game to more players now
Nice arena event btw, complete garbo, lose all items on defeat xdddd makes sense you guys would do such a thing.. nobody is going to play that now xddddd
This community needs to chill
You should implement an anti-cheat system in the game and, for once, listen to your community instead of doing things that only benefit you. That’s why you now have only around 2000 players and are surviving season to season, constantly making new maps when there aren’t even enough players to properly fill two of them.
And the devs need to listen and stop trolling patch after patch. 100% agreed
Idk listen to who? Some people want to kill this game faster.
Just another reminder to remove druid from the game. See you in another 6 months
To the majority of the community?? We have brilliant ideas from repoze,from Vincent, from a bunch of good streamers who actually give good advice, a bunch of videos, other games, etc… like you seriously telling me you need 4 years to add quiver and utility slots for inventory when YOU HAVE THE GRAY SPACE already in your inventory pre-made??? Yikes
yea you gotta consider we are now a 10th of what the game was a year ago
Talent trees, no useless perks that nobody uses( class perks already built in) it’s just sad
Inventory guy left was the reason we still don’t have quiver for arrows, and utility slots.. like.. imagine your boss says: hey a co - worker left (who made lunch) now you guys don’t have food/water at work until we hire somebody. Just sad…
Didn't repoze gave great idea last year?
Remove all modes, leave trios only
Like I said, many issues, and they don’t listen. As usual
Yeah blame the comunity not the devs that refuse to listen or think. Everyone has been saying the arena season is dumb and they still do it xd
Have you played this season at all?
Or your mind is still stuck in season 6
If you want people to play your game being insufferable isn't going to help
3 shards were $6 and 1 shard was $2. Before this update, there was no way for them to price an item to cost $1, $3, $5, etc.
"They’re just trying to scam everyone", my ass. No one is trying to scam you, mate.
The only place where they could "scam" is the Triumph Level bluestone shard progression, but Graysun replid to someone that it will also be adjusted accordingly.
Yeah some people are just bootlickers I don’t know bro.. like imagine blaming the community when we literally want the game to play an they do EVERYTHING IN THE POWER to do the opposite.
Community needs to chill
They should have rewarded the people that have found artifacts and gear that they have found not lose it on the first round smh 😤
Go use artifacts in the dungeon
Bootlickers?? A lot of people complain about how whiny this community is.
For a good reason. Like I explained above.
That makes no sense. I dont have a game xd
Naaah, it’s just sad to see that there are still people like you who keep blaming the community. Probably a rat druid player… don’t worry, they’ll add a new overpowered class for a new map so you’ll have something to play.
What are you rambling about?
I’m not rambling at all. I’m stating facts, you just don’t like hearing them.
Do you even play the game?
Facts about what? You just made an assumption about a class you don't like that I don't even play tf
Do YOU even play the game?
Ive played more than you sadly
You dont play arena for sure though
If you played arena you would not be okay with this BS
Yes I'm not playing arena because only noobs play arena
Okay buddy. Why are you talking then
its his vision bro trust
whining is warranted hence the playercount being what it is, game sucks. simple as
All risk no reward ahh arena
If I came up with a end of wipe event.. we would be up to 8k players before wipe, and I stopped playing months ago now...SDF does it and we are on 2k a week before wipe. SDF is so lost in the sauce its crazy. And he lowkey knows it, thats why he tries to use this paul as a shield, its obvious this is all just SDF handwriting, paul is just sitting in a cage 3d designing spaceships for the new season...
If Next wipe is ass It may very well be the last
I don't understand why they wanna ruin their game intentionally. We could have so much fun for 3 days. Idk why they keep making the worse decisions on every patch note it's crazy.
Just went red and my whole set+teammates set in my bag is gone after abnormal disconnection
Ppl have been saying this since forever and still here you are
"it's early access, these things happen. Nothing we can do"
- official IM support stance on this shit
meanwhile, shilling a cosmetic for 25 bucks, seasonpasses and other crap. But it's early access bro
Do you even know what Shilling means?
But when the counter hits 0 for the next season update, be ready for a semi-wipe, and then another “semi-semi wipe” a few weeks later—because something will suddenly go wrong out of nowhere, with zero explanation. 
You do realise this game had 100k players and now 1k right? We only lost 99% of playerbase
100k? 1k? Why the fuck ppl like to pull numbers out of their asses to try and validate their shitty statements
people who use yet here you are as an argument are dumb af because this is a discord not a video game
game sucks is always valid
They had 57k on steam alone, with most of the OG's at that time still on blacksmith
Oh so it was because of repoze this game almost died when they removed duos/solos?
It looked like it
Set that chart to "max" (displays all time) and that shit looks like a crashing stock lmao
Also it's hilarious you say "we" why the fuck do you care about how many ppl are playing the game? The less players there are the better chance you have to survive, cuz clearly you're a very shitty player with all that whining going around
i didnt even intend to play artifact arena but the way they implemented it is quite possibly the worst option
Ah great, you're his lawyer now?
Once repoze gave green light to SDF : "do it don't be b. about it"
SDF did it
sir, this is a wendy's
and then he left to play Apogea, classic repoze. Complains then runs
anyone lose their kit hitting reds?
You may be lacking in the brain department. Let me try and make It so you can comprehend the point beeing made. When the game loses 99% of the player base, It is close to being done for. If Next wipe is bad they Will be shutting down servers.
wtf i love arenas but this new announc.... pls dont let ppl lose item's this is so stupid -.- @zinc sparrow
TRUE! they fuck up the arenas
every single person i know that was hyped for it is massively upset now (if you could at least loot the enemies i think it would be alright)
Apogea has implemented more updates in 1 week than this game in 2 months. And BEST part, they dont delay the patch and It is instant. No waiting for 8h. Crazy i know.
+1
they heard all the complaints and did.....nothing
i guess so ye, tho i would take that L in the hopes they put in proper hours to make the new map/floor sick
when the devs crash out over their own lawsuit blues
what is the point go to arenas and lose the item's .... if i can lose i prefere go to the dunge ....
at leat you have the chance to gain something in that setting
what is the best character to play besides fightert
barb
Tumble/ smoke pot rogue
druid
they need to sell the game to some good company...EVERTY SINGEL Change they do is -1 point for dark and darker
ngl i defended them for a long time but selling wouldnt be the worst option, Krafton or Tencent would run it a lot more reliable
according to whom? where did the game lost 99% of its playerbase? like i said y'all like pulling numbers out of their asses to justify shitty takes
i play since the play test and i defended all the time, but now ????? no .... i play this game bc its the only one ....
the game is still great and scratching that itch but i wish i would have some optimism for the development
is not the "only one" you can go play dungeon stalkers, or whatever is called 
That's what community said 4months ago
Read the charts they linked maybe? They indicate a 94% reduction (from all time peak to last 24 hr peak)
not one chart has ever talked about "player reduction" stup pulling shit out of your ass
???????? you actualy here just do flame i see! you see the playerbase in early 2025 and see now pls !
@slim tulip Literacy is hard
i think its time to log off youre hard baiting yourself
you can play for me, its ok !
ah of course, because now pointing out the stupidity that people say on this chat is "flaming"
i guess this arena test 9 beeing like 70% squiere XD i will do that indeed
Literally do the math? Go to that chart and look at the ratio of last 24hr peak to alltime peak... If you dont want me to round I can be more exact- a 93.41018823% reduction
at lest what i say is something, like y ?! idk you say stuff and dont know the fact's XD
Or maybe stop ignoring data and acting like people are pulling things out of their asses when they have statistics to support it (and all you have is "nuh uh")
Very few people Alive are dumber than you Buddy. Hentay be rotting your brain
to clarify i thought the message was talking about an official ironmace chart talking about player retention and reduction, which does not exist. the message probably was about steamcharts, which, for some weird reason, people on this discord treat like if it some sacred message from god
according to the numbers, that don't emotionally reply, like you
love this 😛
numbers are sacred messages
that is correct
LOL bro doesn't trust steamcharts
so....
statistics = bad
carefully crafted PR bull = good
gotcha. Try running for US politics, you'll do great
Classic bias source of checks notes ....uh independent 3rd party game hosting platform statistics..?
No, i'm not gonna "trust" steam charts on this one because the game is F2P, and steam charts does not separate the numbers inbetween people that fully purchased the game and ppl that just downloaded it, played 15 mins and bail.
when a chart goes like this
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that's player reduction
You can also purchase the full game on steam in case you didn't know (F2P is literally just an incentive for new players)
what the fuck are you even talking about? so you got butthurt by my words and just decided to go full xenophobic?
even if thats the case it still shows the trend of less people trying out the game, as you say "play 15 minutes and bail"
Someone go hit 3rd floor in crpyts a few times and tell me if you lose your shit
i'm talking about you, duh
of course you don't understand numbers why should you understand things said here either
Idk bro maybe drop the braindead republican talking points tbh
na, he is
Like im on your side with the stats, but seriously calling him samolian?
Ok so you are not refuting the fact that you got butthurt and just decided to attack me for whom i allegedly are, in your head, instead of the things i have to say @glacial sequoia