game-discussion

[flat pier]

Yeah i stopped reading patches eventually because its all balance and they don't actually equate to Dev progress in any way shape or form.

[late ravine]

Lifebloom feels so good until the anti-heal squad rolls up.

[indigo wagon]

ADD SOLO BACK TO CASTLE

I DONT WANT TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS IM A LONELY LOSER @glad thunder

[mild sinew]

its not, just doomers

[indigo wagon]

NO SOLO CASTLE NEXT WIPE AND IM DONE FOR GOOD MAKE THE RIGHT DECISON @glad thunder THE GAME LOST 5K OVERNIGHT WHEN U REMOVED SOLO WHAT ARE UTHINKNIG

[vestal otter]

#dnd-content message

[indigo wagon]

good boy @sdf

[severe ridge]

No solo's camping the boss and making it unplayable for everyone no thanks 🙂

[carmine vigil]

Camping the boss isn't exclusive to solos

[severe ridge]

but playing a rogue and sitting there the entire time is, let them stay in the goblin caves plz 🤣

[carmine vigil]

You would be surprised, that definitely isn't solo exclusive either

[severe ridge]

I remember nobody killing the boss 50% of the times because everyone was just griefing eachother 🙂

[carmine vigil]

You can't

[gray rivet]

SDF needs to buff barb, im not dying to them in squire kit anymore theres something wrong

[fast shore]

Hey guys, to whoever needs to hear this. When i started in april of this year, in order to get make money to buy sets, i would run a full luck kit in pve… if you are doing this you must stop.

Spend your time learning the game. Ie fighting monsters without cheesing them, where you can find gems, gold chests, herbs, and of course bossing. You will make tons of money and actually have way more fun.

[versed mantle]

Hmm just read what SDF's decided going forward...TBF it's A step in the right direction ... but this coud have been all avoided if he just listen to what most of the player base is saying and apply some common sense... instead of losing 90% then go AAhhhh ..u know.. maybe we shouldn've have done that... Now he got a bigger challenge that he's stop the bleeding.. how to re-attract that 90% of the player base he lost in the first place.. xD i suggest he look to games like Helldivers 2 for inspiration..

[mild sinew]

I love SDF, I would love him more if I could swat away farts and nerf druids att scaling from 1.0 to .75

[hardy stump]

I understood "I'm clueless and delusional" from that text, out of his 6 core goals, reverts led to miserably failing 5 out of 6 so far

[supple condor]

This is similar to a programmer’s mindset: instead of simply using a piece of complex code left behind by many people out of habit, one seeks to fully understand its structure and then use or improve it correctly. is this not proof of they stole it? 😛 i mean they need to reanalyze the code to fully understand it as they didnt make it

[boreal island]

No, and we already know they didnt steal the code

[supple condor]

"while recognizing that there was a trade secret infringement involving unauthorized use of internal plans and source code during the development process, ordering Ironmace to pay 8.5 billion won in damages."

[boreal island]

Gave you the benefit of the doubt on the first post because you put a smiley there so it could've been a joke. But you actually being serious on this is painful since it actually reveals that you struggle with reading comprehension, ontop of that you're also acting smug while confusing two things.

During the lawsuit Ironmace's code was taken and analyzed by a third party. They concluded it was not copied from P3. The judge followed that finding and cleared them of copyright infringement.

Benefitting from trade secrets is a whole different thing than stealing code. Its about the internal processes' of making a thing.

[hardy stump]

your logic:
-accusation 1 about littering
-accusation 2 about murder
-accused was found guilty of littering therefore he is guilty of murder even tho he was cleard of it

im so fed up of these bs spreading court jesters who just yap without understanding of what they spout

[elder yoke]

Hey just here to say this game is ass

squire kit sorc running at max movespeed and one shotting any class is a problem

[supple condor]

looks like you cant read m8.. literally says "while recognizing that there was a trade secret infringement involving unauthorized use of internal plans and source code during the development process, ordering Ironmace to pay 8.5 billion won in damages." so they were involved in unauthorized use of internal source code! I guess if you dont speak english it could be confusing but its pretty clear

[hardy stump]

its not possible to max out ms on squire gear while keeping ability to use more than 5 low tier spells

[runic cypress]

Did they fix the game yet? I left after the druid shape charges

Are we back ™️

[bronze robin]

we not back

[tribal zodiac]

we are back in back back to back hotfix which happened back in the days.

[runic cypress]

I heard he undid the thing he did and undid a couple times ago

Sdf still cooking or we cooked

Bruh, can I queue solo gobbies in <25gs or nah

That's all I need to know, the troll pelts built generational (seasonal) wealth

Im trynna sauce some lames and snatch some troll pelts

Big brown leather bags

[hardy stump]

yes, druid is much more balanced now with shape charges having 9 second cooldown, everything else, gear gap is 400% instead of 500% power boost, and its all about druids and barbs in solos, so I guess we're back to that

[runic cypress]

I'm talking about squire lobbies and solo goblin caves.

Is that back?

[tame oxide]

There are no gear brackets. Solo GC is back

[bronze robin]

next week there will be a semi-semi wipe as they call it.

Gearscore will be added back and Solo/Duo/Trio will be back for every map

[fair folio]

Have the season 6 HR rewards come out yet? if not will it be during the semi semi wipe or season 7 real wipe

[hardy stump]

reading comprehension, this is not happening, you misunderstood kitchen post

[bronze robin]

Solo, duo, and trio will be fixed as part of the game system, just like Normal and High Roller. This will apply to all dungeons, as long as the player population allows.

Meaning at least 2 gearscore brackets and the different gamemodes will be back as long as there are enough players(which should be fine for a start of a wipe).

'reading comprehension'

[echo yarrow]

dead game guys, go to sleep

[elfin pelican]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZG_Fcn28QY?si=n4i_n_PS-bzefmaQ
Is that why the skeletons are bleeding?

[indigo wagon]

@severe ridge I’m literally the one doing the boss and getting solo camp’d I do not care lmaoo

i hope people push me while I do boss I live for it

fighting during boss is one of the most skillfull things in this game.

[woven jackal]

this has to be ragebait

[hardy stump]

why do you think it does?

because they are not gathering your personal data?

your email is not your personal data and it wasn't even used for marketing, other than that, write to support

[carmine vigil]

Don't then

[hardy stump]

so don't

[carmine vigil]

Gl with that

[hardy stump]

yeah, sure, go for it, tell us how it went

[slow viper]

guys , one question , what are the best weapons to the fighter , im new player

[hardy stump]

if your email does not help directly identify you as irl person, then its not a personal data and its not violating GDPR

[slow viper]

what i should put in the squire to the fighter?

[hardy stump]

plate armor, its the main strength of fighter

[slow viper]

i cant put plate armor on the squire

[carmine vigil]

Do quests for the armorsmith to unlock

[hardy stump]

that applies to personal data exclusively, unless your email was your name and surname or irl address, its not personal data and not subject to GDPR

[slow viper]

can we dm? i need to send you a screenshot

[hardy stump]

you can, do first quest for armorsmith

[slow viper]

i need cobalt and ruby

[hardy stump]

then
1)you're one of the dumbest people on the internet if you used that for game accounts
2)write to support or make a phone call if you refuse to use written form

[slow viper]

XD

[hardy stump]

but better use burnout phone and sim card, they might track your location through gps or get your truye number

[hardy stump]

cobalt is in goblin caves in center lift and mine rooms, you dont need rubysilver

[slow viper]

Can i dm you with a screenshot? i need help with the squire

[hardy stump]

they do have a direct email on their website, either use that or stop pestering us about it, we don't care and you've alrady proven not to be the sharpest knife in the rack

[hardy stump]

sure

you said yourself you deleted the account, so why would there be an account?

and I don't mean support email, I mean email on their website

and game account does not mean email in database, for all we know, you might be on their blacklist for refund fraud, which would require at least email to identify you

either way, we do not care and you refuse to go to their website and write them an email, so if you refuse to help yourself, so do I

maybe go back to your original plan to go to court or sth

[odd grove]

You tell them KING 👑

you wont get a reply on discord lmao

people use twitter?

[mossy wing]

What is the issue?

[slow viper]

@hardy stump what is better for news barbarian or fighter , i like the playstyle of barbarian

[odd grove]

barb if you dont want to use skill to win just hold forward and left click

very low skill ceiling class

[slow viper]

XD

[odd grove]

if you want to be a chad learn wizard

[slow viper]

maybe warlock

[odd grove]

but i dont recommend if youre new

[hardy stump]

both are very strong atm, one has more armor and can use ranged weapon, another moves faster, has more health and hits harder

barb is meta, but I don't think you're at meta level if you're asaking this kind of questions

[slow viper]

im not on any lvl i played 3 games on my life

[odd grove]

id just stick with fighter till you learn the ropes

[slow viper]

okey lets play fighter then , thx 🙂

[odd grove]

try to get some hits in with your crossbow before you engage in melee

[hardy stump]

then stick to fighter, its much more noob friendly and forgiving

[mossy wing]

Well the right to be forgotten applies only under certain conditions, emails, do not fall under this protection as they can be created without the use of personal data

[odd grove]

dm me if you need any more help

[tribal zodiac]

Its 1 email lock to account.. sadly my friend had Epic DaD account with cosmetics bought, changed gaming email and someone claimed his deleted email name... now he doesnt have acces to that account :))

[mossy wing]

(c) erasure: you can ask us to delete your personal information where it is no longer necessary for us to use it, you have withdrawn consent, or where we have no lawful basis for keeping it.

(g) withdraw consent: If you have given us your consent to use your personal information (for example, for marketing purposes), you can withdraw your consent at any time.

14.5 Please also be aware that not all of those rights are absolute and there may be circumstances in which we will not fully comply with your request because of a specified legal ground or exemption.

all under terms when you signed up to play Dark and darker

[tribal zodiac]

thats the point, he cant change email. = lost account right after someone took his deleted email name:)

[bronze robin]

it's against resellers

[tribal zodiac]

I guess its cuz of acc trading.
But in other hand its pretty fcked up issue.

[bronze robin]

i mean not really, what is the issue even, your friend changed email. Why would he not just keep the log in the same instead of changing it.

If your account gets hacked but your email can't be changed, wouldn't that ensure that you can actually get it back easy? due to your email not being changed and you can request a new password?

[mossy wing]

btw you'll need this to contact the right team about privacy requests

15.1 If you have any questions about this privacy policy or our privacy practices, please contact our data privacy manager in the following ways:

Full name of legal entity: Ironmace Co. Ltd.

Email address: [e-mail]

Postal address: 8F, 225-18, Pangyoyeok-ro Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do, Republic of Korea

[tribal zodiac]

he had some Email issues, so instead of dealing problems, he changed to gmail. Meanwhile Epic DaD moved to steam/blacksmith. and "Epic DaD" was fixed to previous email adress..

[bronze robin]

I mean his previous email adress should stay active as a log in right? regardless of if he uses the email

[tribal zodiac]

He cant use it, some Indian scammer got that acc locked off him.
and DaD login needs verify email code, which goes to lost email adress so.

[mossy wing]

Well did your request for a new password come through? like did you actaully get one?

[bronze robin]

i mean that sucks for him, but it's clearly stated when making a account you can't change your email. and i get that due to the resellers etc.

[mossy wing]

13.3 In some circumstances we will anonymise your personal data (so that it can no longer be associated with you) for research or statistical purposes, in which case we may use this information indefinitely without further notice to you. This is still correct under the GDPR

[tribal zodiac]

Its not, or it wasnt at Epic games. Becuase it instantly registered Epic email, without any note of "I cant change email".

It does show note only if you registry thru website on blacksmith 🙂

[odd grove]

Anonymise someone's email? how does that make sense?

Their email is clearly still in the system you cant anonymise it

[bronze robin]

Wouldn't that be a Epic games problem then?

[mossy wing]

Just stating what it says xD i don't know

[tribal zodiac]

Well its classic Connection with app+game studios.

I miss old time fashion way without 100000 launchers needed.

[odd grove]

Fair enough but that clause doesnt apply

Honestly im just impressed you've gone to this effort to find all this info

for being only a moderator

[mossy wing]

Wait, are you on steam or blacksmith? could you attempt to login to the website for me if you are on blacksmith?

[odd grove]

Yeah I'm just saying GDPR requests fall outside of a moderator's power lol

[mossy wing]

if you can of course

i'm at work atm xD cannot help that hard 😄

[bronze robin]

GDPR states that company's can hold onto data for statistical use generally, depending on when and how you requested to delete your account, they need to delete all your information.

There are some exceptions to this rule, but i don't think that any would apply

[primal coral]

"What did we gain as a result?"

Better question is what did you lose as a result of you fucking the whole game up SDF

[mossy wing]

Could you login or?

[worldly wedge]

Bla Bla bla 😆

[mossy wing]

All i can see them not doing it because of term 14.5 "that not all of those rights are absolute and there may be circumstances in which we will not fully comply with your request"

[void kestrel]

Bring back rotating solo/duo/trio to each map. Please bro

[hardy stump]

email is not personal data and you didnt needed to put any personal data to make an account therefore no gdpr applies

its very simple concept, no personal data = no gdpr

exclusively when it can be used to identify you as physical person, which email cant

[sand sedge]

wow the new cake has those little sparkley candles thats cute

[mossy wing]

Ya know "such as a legal obligation to retain the data or the necessity of retaining the data for the performance of a contract" is most likely why they are keeping it chief

"The GDPR does not prescribe specific time limits for how long personal data can be stored"

listen, just contact them again, and just see, with the screenshot of it not deleted and ask for the reason for it, send it to [e-mail]

[slow salmon]

Ima uninstall someone DM me when SDF is no longer dev

[carmine vigil]

The lead dev

[slow salmon]

They got sued for it and lost already so yes they stole assets. Lmao

[carmine vigil]

They didn't get sued for stolen assets lmao

It wasn't assets

[slow salmon]

Intellectual property?

[carmine vigil]

Trade secret infringement is what they were charged with

[slow salmon]

Copyright infringement and trade secret misappropriation

[hardy stump]

hello misinformation bot #12521

NEXON lost every single case about stolen code or assets, you literally can go online and read the ruling

[carmine vigil]

They beat the copyright infringement claims

[slow salmon]

You’re very wrong. They lost the suit about misappropriation of trade secrets. Thats the same as stealing assets. 🤷🏻‍♂️😁

[hardy stump]

that's how courts work

[carmine vigil]

2/10 ragebait

[slow salmon]

Misappropriating is literally taking and using something that isn’t yours. You should read a book.

[hardy stump]

hello misinformation bot #12521

there were multiple different cases, NEXON lost all but a single one, which boiled down to "SDF might have used knowledge and experience he aquired at nexon", which you would know, if you weren't a misinformation bot #12521

[carmine vigil]

Trade secrets and assets are two very different things...

[slow salmon]

You should definitely just go google it right now because I did LOL

[hardy stump]

you very clearly didn't, and it shows

[slow salmon]

You must be 12. Trade secrets are typically the most valuable assets an organization has. They’re what give organizations a “competitive edge.”

[hardy stump]

and if you did, you had no slightest idea on what you've seen and are just parroting rage bating streamers

[carmine vigil]

You should just read the case lmao

[slow salmon]

I’m going to stop talking to you two because you seem to be lacking basic business knowledge required to understand this whole thing.

[hardy stump]

good idea that you disengage, you should always do that when you have zero idea about the topic, and are unwilling to learn

yes, because that's how courts work

[slow salmon]

Hmmm okay sure. I should tell you I’m actually a legal expert but deal primarily with cybersecurity so this is a tad out of my field. Anyways, go look into it again because you’re wrong and when you need help just go ahead and google the basic terms.

[carmine vigil]

1/10

[slow salmon]

You’ll be alright. When you hit college, the 101 business law class is pretty fun actually.

Good luck then children. ❤️

[sand sedge]

Nexon claimed ironmace developers used proprietary code and assets from P3, a cancelled nexon project.
Nexon is currently attempting to prove that ironmace did use their trade secrets, in this case assets. code, documentation among other things

[stray nimbus]

Rly No new patch today fk off

[hardy stump]

if you were legal "expert" in any field, you would be aware on what verifiable evidence are, and how there were 3rd party checked evidence that IMs assets and code are IMs own homebrew with no overlap to P3 and the most "overlaping" concept art for characters was like that, because the artist who worked on P3 also moved over to IM, and it makes sense that guy X art strongly resembles guy X art, you would be also aware that trade secret ruling was not based on evidence, but on assumption that sdf subcontiously used knowlede and experience aquired at nexon, because court had a hard time understanding that small indie studio could actually work efficiently without bloated managerial multi-ladder verification and approval processes

[sand sedge]

Ironmace lost the initial court hearing, with the court deeming that ironmace did in fact violate nexons trade secrets which includes assets. this was deemed netheir knowledge nor common skills that the dev couldve taken freely, as a result ironmace had to pay over 6 million dollars in damages, however ironmace was found innocent from the copyright violation accusations

[hardy stump]

maybe you should have kept attention and update yourself past initial hearing and go to actual conclusion of processes?

shit still going, because both sides appealed

[sand sedge]

Both parties attempt to appeal this ruling, thus moving to higher judgement, Ironmace is attempting to appeal the charges entirely as they feel it was not fair, whilst nexon is attempting to cease serives entirely and charge nearly double again what they charged ironmace

You wouldnt be very special, PUBG, Scum, The Forest, Ark: Survival Evolved, Fortnite, Rust, Squad among others also use Unreal Assets fairly bought

[hardy stump]

Dungeonborne did, it lived for 6 months and died

[sand sedge]

you are refering to me?

[sand sedge]

Court case is still not finished, you have a background in business as you said so you should know what the appeal process is for

Ironmace opened appeals against nexon as they said that the ruling was not fair as they didnt actually steal anything.

the only evidence presented was that nexon said they "made a game based off a medieval fantasy dungeon extraction" that the game had classes, a inventory loot system with dungeon layouts

which if you think about this with a history of gaming these systems are way to broad of a subject to be simply copyrighted and claimed as stolen

[hardy stump]

could have misquoted

[hardy stump]

this reminds me of the time where nintendo tried to patent riding horses in games

[sand sedge]

At the end of the day, everything nexon claimed was stolen is used in many many video games. And judges probably dont have that knowledge seeing as its likely they dont play many video games to pull the point of comparision too

[slow salmon]

That’s.. that’s not the evidence that was presented. Also I’ve realized something. Are we talking about the Korea case or the US?

[sand sedge]

Korean Case

"Nexon argued that the gameplay mechanics of Dark and Darker closely resembled those of Project P3, particularly the dungeon extraction format, class systems, and loot mechanics. The court acknowledged that while these elements are common in the gaming industry, the specific combination and implementation in Dark and Darker were sufficiently distinctive to be considered trade secrets."

[hardy stump]

US case flatlined, nexon had nothing, its all about Korean court, which works differently and are by default pro-corporation

[sand sedge]

"Nexon highlighted the rapid development of Dark and Darker, suggesting that the game's swift progress was indicative of the use of pre-existing proprietary materials" Game development moving quick isnt evidence

esepcially when you consider assets were bought, and not made from scratch. Only really needing to work on code and animations

Theres actually a list out there of EVERY asset ironmace bought, used as evidence to Prove nothing was taken directly from nexon

[slow salmon]

Oh in that case, the evidence presented was: “a developer downloaded thousands of files from nexus servers before quickly quitting which included design documents, asset packages, and internal development data.”

[hardy stump]

what's funny is I have played a mod, 25 years ago for neverwinter nights, which pretty much was single player DaD from top down view, or was single player for me, because internet was rough back then

[sand sedge]

Nexon provided close to no evidence, just the claims

[hardy stump]

it was a claim with no evidence, nexon have lost that one badly

[slow salmon]

It was allegedly, so yes it wasn’t strictly proven. However the timelines match, the development process was rapid which suggested asset information was used, etc.

[tame oxide]

Good luck bro. You're competing with AAA companies which are doing the same thing, along with hundreds of indie tirles

[slow salmon]

All core members of the development team for Ironmace worked directly with P3 where the assets were alleged stolen from. Ironmace is going to lose this.

[sand sedge]

However, Nexon did provide logs showing SDF downloading high ammounts of files from their servers, but what these files were are not public, but when you pull up the side by side that nexon pulled from P3 compared to Dark and Darker, the comparison points were way to broad

that is the main issue

[tame oxide]

Bro the assets are for sale on UE5 store

Anyone can use em

[sand sedge]

From what we DO know however is that most of what is public from the hearing, its way to broad for the ruling to be fair, but those files if proven to be inside of dark and darker by whats claimed from nexon could potentially cause ironmace to cease function

[slow salmon]

The assets in referring to are the alleged trade secrets. Not the code assets.

[sand sedge]

its only a matter of time before we see what happens

[tame oxide]

Idk why people need to come up with fabricated bs, when there's legitimate concerns and criticism to throw at IM

[sand sedge]

Every concern that @slow salmon has is valid, but I wouldn’t be hasty as to say it’s over for the game when we don’t have the final verdict

[slow salmon]

This case is going to end as a loss for Ironmace. They don’t have the power or resources to fight Nex AND there’s too many “oh so you just happened to do the exact same thing?” Going on.

Shame. I enjoy getting 1 shot as a rogue by every class in the game 🤭

[sand sedge]

I mean, there’s a possibility for victory, titanfall wouldn’t exist if cases like these ALWAYS ended up in failure

It’s a 50/50

Having similar games also doesn’t give rights to copyright, if this was the case many games wouldn’t exist from the get go altogether

[slow salmon]

I don’t think they will. They frequently alienate half of their player base and see consistent decline. They’ll run out of money simply because they’re very bad at being Devs.

[sand sedge]

Community Treatment is Irrelevant in the court case

Especially when they still make a profit regardless

[slow salmon]

Obviously. I said they were going to run out of money vs. Nex. They may see profit but the profit has gradually declined along with their player base.

[sand sedge]

All depends, we haven’t seen many signs of them losing money (you would see many more micro transactions if this was the case)

All we’ve really gotten was a single season pass that costs 10$ and a couple cosmetics

Realistically to draw a point of comparison to other games, this is severely low in the cost factor for a game that isn’t even going through a lawsuit

Let alone one that supposedly would “need” the funds to support this court case

Although, you have merit in your point

If they lose money, bye bye

[loud moss]

Hiii am new here

[hidden carbon]

Like is there any way to link accounts without needing blacksmith launcher cant get it to work on my steamdeck. Need to link acc for legendary to go to steam so i can play with it

[mossy wing]

Hello 🙏

[silver smelt]

When "Find Otto in the dungeon" mission?

[agile tide]

What ever happened to the Loot Goblin and wandering bosses, was that just a fever dream I had?

Damn, those were two of the best ideas they ever had for increasing player movement without the circle

[mossy wing]

It was never added, but it was an idea at one point

[agile tide]

Yeah, probably. I'll still be around until we get Mistfall or something as a successor tho

[jagged fog]

Semi semi 32.3.4

[surreal crown]

I cant believe how much IronMace resemble big corpo
So we tested, “What if gear differences did not exist at all?” The result was that players lost their motivation to pursue better gear, and the meaning of gameplay itself became diluted.

I mean holy shit you had to test it? yo ucouldnt tell?

[agile tide]

If all of that was somewhat true and every patch after 68 was some kind of experiment then damn, SDF has a lot of faith that players will come back lmao

[woven island]

I don't think any third person can replace dark and darker unfortunately

[agile tide]

It can come pretty close if there's enough variety and good combat, but yeah there will need to be a company that takes DaD gameplay bones and then improves on the rest to really replace the game

[woven island]

I think the FPS component is too important for it to work for me. I have tried a few games to fill in but it just isn't the same. So here I remain, in the dungeon.

[agile tide]

That's fair but there hasn't really been a "good" third person option. It's not like some crazy, well-executed third person game launched and you didn't like it, all the options are fairly mid so far

[woven island]

For me the corner peeking ruins it. I felt the same about third person PUBG

[stray nimbus]

No new patch today rly????

[agile tide]

It's a big difference but doesn't come into play too much unless you are ambushing a lot I guess

[woven island]

Imagine fighting in center room ice caves, you could potentially peek over the wall and get info you otherwise wouldn't be able to get. Like seeing the team comp, noticing someone on the door beyond the team hiding behind a wall, maybe you notice they don't have a range weapon, or maybe you see the cleric has a spell book out etc. All these details change the way the game is played and the decision making. Its just a worse experience in my opinion. I like the limited perspective of not knowing whats around me and behind me.

You really play the game with your ears in a big way that adds a lot to the experience

[agile tide]

All true. I also prefer first person, but not to the extent that I'd say third ruins a game. We'll see how mistfall goes I guess

[leaden peak]

so besecly they just ganna revert evryting they did with new map

[woven island]

w bait

[winter tinsel]

DaD’s first escort quest “find and save Otto”

[potent harness]

Is there any way to get the skeleton skins anymore or nah?

[surreal crown]

yea 3rd person camera in game like this is basically cheating

there is no substitute for DaD on gaming market, some games claim they are but they really arent

but i still cant come back the recent changes just feel horrible I dont like shorter TTKs in a game where you dodge by shaking freaking camera around

game was best when TTK was high, now its bum bum fight ends, snooore

[digital isle]

Hi so whens the wipe?

[agile tide]

I like the new TTK tbh, I still feel much stronger with gear but can pretty consistently kill better-geared players just by outplay. W imo

[frail merlin]

From the announcements: "On August 26, we will be doing a ‘Semi-Semi-Wipe’ which will commence a super condensed mini-season known as ‘EA Season 6.9'. ". There is more information there if you need it 🙂

[topaz locust]

SDF please make the number values larger on armor and weapons.

YOu can balance with the incremental changes of 1-50 more than you if the it's just 1-5 and you only deal in whole numbers ffs

[surreal crown]

I could do that even before, i had glass cannon parry build, but it was deliberate choice on my part, now everything is glass cannon, fewer options to build => less fun

[agile tide]

I mean, longsword was a longstanding cheese option, I don't think it's bad that other classes can now compete against better gear. Longsword used to be the only option for that, and with good reason - parry being the strongest mechanic in the game.

[stiff crow]

parry isnt strong, just go cleric with morning star, look down, go point blank to the figher and hold mouse 1

[finite remnant]

yeah parry sucks now. they both lowered parry damage and made LS left click worthless

[graceful storm]

parry is 100% strong lol

[agile tide]

Just because you can play around parry doesn't make it not strong, but it's definitely significantly worse than it used to be.

Which is good because between the janky connection and the parry damage it used to be a dice roll if you just died for free even when playing around it

[ashen willow]

bro LS is the most busted weapon in the game no competition, easy headshots with left click that out dps most weapons. and still the crazy parry 1 shot

U can literally panic hold parry and win against better geared / better players they only need to fuck up once while youre tanking 10 limbshots

[agile tide]

I agree with most of what u said, but longsword turtles never kill me anymore, you can just sit there picking which of your swings to connect with and if they don't do anything they have no chance

[ashen willow]

yeah honestely i dont remmeber last time i got parried. however, ive died to a dps race where fighters just hold left click

[surreal crown]

more weapons should be able to parry, but with more nuance, like rapiers parrying only thrusts etc

direction based blocks would be also nice buuut since for some reason this community likes crounching and looking up or down as valid dodge strategies i think it will never happen

btw the way we dodge in DaD is so freaking unreal my mind cant accept, i can somewhat accept crounching to dodge wide attack but holy shit some dodge strategies involve turning your back to your opponent, thats just insane
realism is almost never fun in games but holy shit have some boundaries pls

[agile tide]

I just play speedy and space out the left click, rarely even get hit with it. Not all builds can do that though sure

[agile tide]

This would be fun but it's unlikely to happen.
Also the dodge strats are the most engaging part of the game, physically directing your character model out of an enemy swing path? Peak.
Whenever I DO get parried, I immediately crouch look down 180 and a lot of the time they miss

[ashen willow]

Most weapons arent viable vs ls, i like to use felling tho if fighter actually holds left click i kinda have to eat the free hits while swinging and they generally win the dps race purely because of tankyness diff

[surreal crown]

why not play VR then, taking your eyes of the target just feels silly

[agile tide]

There are many, many steps between this and VR lol

[surreal crown]

well you want to use camera to move model out of predetermined strike of weapon, i could use simple sidestep move

artificial difficulty is not a good design

[agile tide]

The only issue with this, as you kind of pointed out, is there isn't enough combat depth with weapon swing patterns and counters to make a dodge mechanic be anything other than sleeper. Currently the dodging is the most skill expressive part of combat since it's a lot to learn

If we just stapled a sidestep to the current system, fights would be incredibly boring

[mellow lance]

other games already figured this out dune and legacy both have dodge tied to punishing stamina systems

[agile tide]

Stamina system would kind of suck in this game because by design it would be tied to stats, meaning geared players would have more stamina. This would provide undergeared players with one more way to lose as they found themselves unable to swing as many times as the other player while also facing greater stamina drain as they needed to avoid the geared player's swings with more urgency

[surreal crown]

dafuq? you are doing same now with violent cam shake, you would still need to time it

[agile tide]

Doesn't include duck and headshot evasion, it's just a unidirectional move

[mellow lance]

itd just be a replacment for movespeed system which does the same thing

[agile tide]

I'm all for replacing MS, just not with a dark souls stamina bar

[tepid falcon]

Monthly checking.

How's the game doing so far

[agile tide]

I'd wait until at least the mini reset later in August, or better yet the actual wipe on Sept 23

[tepid falcon]

Understandable have a nice day

[warm furnace]

is bardiche good with achilles strike ? or better wirh reckless or smt ?

[sullen anchor]

quarterstaff is the best weapon in the game you should use it over bardiche

trust

[warm furnace]

hell nah it was good

[harsh dagger]

quarterstaff is the better weapon

but on top of that is spellbook

[warm furnace]

nah bare hands better

[harsh dagger]

hit them with that knowledge

[warm furnace]

what is does biss mean ?

[harsh dagger]

bis *

[warm furnace]

yeah ?

[harsh dagger]

best in slot meaning good gear basically, u seen some one with good stats for his build , he's in bis

[warm furnace]

ah okay thanks

[harsh dagger]

@dense zenith you good there buddy ? i see you typing then it seem like your changing your mind lol

[warm furnace]

fr

[harsh dagger]

@dense zenith its okay your in a safe place here , we dont judge spit it out buddy

[inland valve]

It’s never the best in slot. People just say BIS when they like their gear.

[harsh dagger]

@inland valve In gaming, "best in slot" (often abbreviated as BiS) refers to the most optimal piece of equipment that a character can equip in a specific gear slot. It signifies the absolute best item available for that slot, considering the character's class, specialization, and desired playstyle

[abstract apex]

hear me out quit the game. it's already on its way to sub 1k

they don't care to fix actual problems just constantly delaying them while telling us its gonna be different. Find a game that respects you and your time.

[inland valve]

Cool story. Over 99 percent of the time it’s used they aren’t actually referring to the very best piece of equipment for that slot for that character. Just good gear.

[harsh dagger]

yes but he said what does it mean so i told him , witch is not wrong right ?....

[inland valve]

Seems like you replied to the wrong guy then.

[harsh dagger]

what are you on about u dinggyu

i replied back to you because u tried to be like '' oh well this guys wrong '' so i sent the copy and paste to you , to prove that your just tryna to be the ''RIGHT GUY '' lil worm

[inland valve]

Look man I get what the literal definition of BIS is, I’m just informing you that most people don’t actually mean the literal definition of the word when they say it. They say somethings BIS if it’s just decently good.

Hold on I think I know what you need to hear

[harsh dagger]

best in slot meaning good gear basically, u seen some one with good stats for his build , he's in bis( what i said to him)

think you need to pipe down lil one

go back through the door you came big dawgg

[inland valve]

Why are you acting all upset when I never even called you wrong?

Adding on to the discussion doesn’t translate to “you are incorrect!!!” Just because I didn’t instantly and automatically agree with everything you said before

[harsh dagger]

but what i said before is what you just put

[inland valve]

That’s too vague

[harsh dagger]

and yours isnt ?

[inland valve]

I’m not scrolling up to entertain a bad faith argument

You win the internet today

[harsh dagger]

thankyou and also sorry

i flew off on the deep end

@inland valve will you accept my apologie

i typed you a song ❤️

[lost tinsel]

Please don't post spam in this channel, keep it to game-related discussions only.

[graceful storm]

dont make me give you a ban

[harsh dagger]

sorry did u want a song typed up?

this is the song i like to play in game to get the mood going

[graceful storm]

ok thats the last straw. you are banned

[harsh dagger]

im sorry boss

[quick ermine]

the teaming in hr gobo caves is fing wild this game is so trash they cant even afford to ban people for blatantly cheating

wddmz003 has been teaming with a rogue all morning in hr gobo caves lmao your a loser bro

[frail merlin]

teaming in HR is reportable. i would report it.

[quick ermine]

reported multiple times lmao

[harsh dagger]

sorry man i didnt know you was the big dawg i thought u was a troll , ill listen to the rules in future . once again sorry

[harsh dagger]

its very rare people gets banned or timed out in game most likely they will have to go though 10-20 mins of replay and tried to identify if it was a third party or acaully cheating ' just my guess/imo

[fervent wigeon]

Dude in any game EVER if you are in a 2v3 situation your chances SHOULD be much lower. What the hell is going on?

[frail merlin]

im unfortunately not sure of the process, i just do know its reportable.

[inland valve]

Sounds like he’s got a friend. Do you need a friend?

[harsh dagger]

@inland valve do you want to be freind and we run a few matches ?>>

[inland valve]

Sure if you can handle me being a red name (pls don’t exploit the free team kill on me)

[quick ermine]

its just aggravating man they both dont fight you at once lmao i killed a bis barb and got the elvator room saw the rogue then the barb and the barb comes at me first and i get him one tap and his rogue is just watching to see if he dies or not and then would jump in he ends up killing me and then they both run and start looting my kit and run straight down and go mine trolls gold lmao

they arent ever gonna get banned IM cant afford to lose players so they just let them sit there and insta que and team

[inland valve]

They aren’t required to fight each other

[quick ermine]

i ended up getting in there game again and i extract and what do you know im specating them do it again to a warlock in cyclops room like bro

[harsh dagger]

agree, one guy just waitinig for his time to strike without doing to much work

[quick ermine]

its a joke man hes waiting for his barb to die to clean you up then extract with his kit to give it back to him like huh

[inland valve]

Oh it’s a joke? Hahaha I get it! What a good guffaw

[quick ermine]

are you just a troll man what are you on about

[inland valve]

You literally called it a joke, how dare you accuse me of trolling

Reported

[quick ermine]

no wonder the game is dying lmao community and management is butt butt

[fast shore]

Go to barb chat, and it depends on the move speed action speed in your kit abs your pref. I prefer reckless atm

[harsh dagger]

apart from chyunkus he the goat, the only goat in the iron mace team

i think the game will be in a better state when new map and season out imo but iv got a lot of hopefull thinking

[odd lance]

Gg dead game it was amazing while it lasted!! All good things come to an end

[quick ermine]

agreed community and lack of management killed this game bad

[flat quarry]

They gonna open arena for the last week?

[tropic pilot]

FIX NIGHTMARE CENTiPEDE

[lost tinsel]

What is going on with the nightmare centipede...?

[tropic pilot]

GHOST STACKS, GETTING 3 STACKS OF POISON WHILE AVOIDING PUDDLES AND SPIT. LOST KIT DUE TO GAME BEING BAD

[lost tinsel]

please make a post in here: #report-a-bug

[tropic pilot]

OK, BUT NO CLIP JUST ANGER TYPING

[lost tinsel]

🫂

[fervent anvil]

heh

[lament elbow]

Why is the game so shitty? When is the new season coming out?

[tropic pilot]

DONT KNOW HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN. THE POISON STACKS BUT IM NOT IN A PUDDLE OR GETTING SPIT ON

[fervent anvil]

heh

[tropic pilot]

👍

[sand sedge]

Most honest person I’ve ever met

[snow apex]

anyone here wanna party?

[keen halo]

It’s not. We’re going all the way to semi^9 wipe

[fervent anvil]

go to the lfg channels. you got a better chance there

[simple cosmos]

One usb will rule them all hehe

[frail merlin]

you should check out our LFG channels! it will def help you find some fellow adventurers to play with. #lfg-northamerica #lfg-europe is a few examples of the channels, we do have several other regions too!

[icy slate]

@fleet imp @glad thunder QUEUE Reduction idea: Party size Queues with map selection. Reduces non-adventure queues to 6. Users can simply select or deselect map(s) they want to play. Matchmaker can simply look for players who include X or Y map. Simple idea, hard to implement, solves many issues. Posted example in #dnd-screenshots

Reminder that the goal is to change the way the matchmaker behaves in a more detailed way, not to hide the multiple queues behind a different menu display.

[graceful storm]

I hope the water map is polished and the swimming combat doesn't feel terrible. Thats going to be very important after delaying a wipe for months. People are going to expect it to be good

[ivory aurora]

Judging by how water levels in video games are 99% of the time absolutely hated... I'm not expecting much

[fringe granite]

People are gonna get over water map within a month tbh

This game needs systems

[ivory aurora]

maybe earlier

[sterile ridge]

The swimming and water combat will be key to determining the sucess of the season

[ivory aurora]

at the current moment I assume its going to be the same thing, except on an extra dimension for combat, which would make it terribly painful to play solo

maybe extra dimension isnt the right wording

[fringe granite]

Infinite kite meta but now they can also go up and down freely

[ivory aurora]

yeah something like that, height is freely chosen

sdf wants 1v3 to be possible, yeah good luck with that in water

[fringe granite]

At least in normal maps you you can take different routes to cut people off or position better

[zinc light]

Discussing this game, or gaming this discuss. Haha amirite?

[timber imp]

Be a man and play a melee class

[fringe granite]

But in an open space, in water, you can just go straight and get easy shots in unless they’re also ranged

[ivory aurora]

I remain skeptical

[graceful storm]

imagine if instead of adding the water map they just REALLY improved the maps we already had like added roaming bosses, loot goblins, map events etc, to all of them. fixed the door and doorer issues by making different ways of joining modules instead of the same exact small doors everywhere. theres SO much they couldve done with all this time. I just hope the new map is cool enough to make people forget about stuff like that

[fringe granite]

Maybe a hot take but I honestly dgaf about new modules when it’s just another cave tunnel to fight the same 3 goblins in. Should’ve done this instead.

[summer wyvern]

Guys what classes are good rn

[fringe granite]

Play any ranged class

[ivory aurora]

hello flavor of the month player, barb and ranged classes

[summer wyvern]

ok thanks

[sterile ridge]

Unfortunately even if they did all this there would still be thousands of players that claimed there was no new content

I would love to see new mobs and a few variations of the current maps personally

[graceful storm]

true. lol I just dont think a whole new map was the move... the ones weve been playing for years feel stale and need a revamp

[next epoch]

ur playing the same maps for years and they came up with something new for you to play, why are you discontent with this lol

[split wadi]

I don't think they expected to work on the map as long as they had. I wonder if the randomized modules thing and possibly additional scope creep (ziplines, new modules, water combat + boss) contributed to things getting a bit out of focus

[graceful storm]

it looks like the water map in general is getting away from door and doorer since its very open I guess thats a W ill have to take

[split wadi]

Yeah. I understand they want to focus on sprucing up old classes after s7 map + gathering halls drop but it'd be cool to get some more open modules for the older maps in the future as well

[warm furnace]

what is a good fellin axe build ?

[rigid fractal]

water combat seems like hell for melee classes

[tepid falcon]

Can a fish see water?

[fleet imp]

One of the biggest differences from experience with it is that you have to get used to dodging up and down, rather than left and right

Some of the attacks from underwater creatures have much wider arcs, so you need to use all of your options when moving around attacks

[wheat musk]

never seen someone cry about doors🤣

[dense moon]

I just need to know if I can tumble underwater...

[final finch]

Is the water luke warm?

[regal raft]

Salt water or fresh water

[timber lynx]

when is start new season?

[severe coyote]

Hey SDF if the game survives this newest lawsuit, I'd just like to offer my resume so that I might get to work at ironmace. I too am good at shopping for gameready assets on the unreal marketplace and could replace graysun. Let me know if you're interested.

[noble kraken]

I think they need to add some passives for the classes not anything massive but maybe for fighters they remove the second wind skill and make it a passive that auto activates at low health and for sorcerers maybe just give them the merge perk for free stuff like that makes all the classes slightly stronger but allows for more build diversity without basically forced perks like how sorcerers are basically required to take the merge skill

[fleet imp]

I can confirm tumble works underwater

[nimble hearth]

I guarantee you that this water map would have been out MONTHS ago if we didn't have random dungeon.

The water map was 100% originally conceptualized as a static map that wasn't random in any way. You can see this from the sketches done for it.

They probably soent a few extra weeks to develop a system that makes sure the zip lines aren't broken and the map isn't all wonky because modules aren't where they should be.

They probably spent a few extra weeks to develop the zip lines themselves and make sure they don't crash your game/instakill you/steal your credit card info.

This isnt even beginning to talk about how many God forsaken tines the dps we do has changed around.

I can only imagine that ironmace has gone through MONTHS of redesign hell because sdf keeps changing things and doesn't realize the longterm consequences.

We would have probably had this map in April or may instead of September had sdf's control of things been seriously limited by Terence like he should have A LONG TIME AGO

[fathom wagon]

Why are people so brain ded this fighters getting chased so i get bind teady to help him escape everytime i move to the side to cast the spell he moves that way so

[nimble hearth]

Update the test server already. Ite been months AGAIN

Are you guys seriously gonna start another streak of keeping it behind.

The Test server was unpatched for 8 MONTHS

Now we're back up to THREE

Update it already

Click the two or three buttons it takes to upload the newest patch and then push it.

This is ridiculous

Sdf literally apologized for it

His EXACT words

"The test server is easier to update now and I apologize for not doing so until now"

To not update it is extremely lazy and unprofessional

I paid 40$ to access the test server through hold the line edition.

The Test Server was then made free under my nose without notice

This is not only extremely predatory towards the consumers that paid to access it but it adds further to my point that this ENTIRE process is extremely negligent and unprofessional.

[fossil kayak]

anyone having sucess with arming sword short sword slayer?

[fleet pelican]

Probably not, have you tried falchion?

[pallid estuary]

Dead Trash

[warm furnace]

what is a godd felling axe build ?

[fossil kayak]

i try falcion but i get rekt no matter what 6k hours i never got good

[nimble hearth]

What's sad is you've been here since 2023. Not even like a new player or anything. Bro has seen it all and given up.

Imagine what new players feel like

[fossil kayak]

after 6k hours, 2 accts, multiple bans even banned on this discord for a year I can say this is one of the most interesting/addictive games ever created but also a game for people that like causing pain to themselves and others full stop. the game is about pain and suffering

[tame quarry]

Water combat

[flat bronze]

nerf barb plz

also norms shouldn't be able to double or triple of any character , especially pre squaded up

[marble kettle]

i want to hear your opinion, do you think sdf stole all the p3 proyect from nexon and made dnd?

[lavish nimbus]

would be super nice if arena just stays open again until semi semi wipe

[neat breach]

Sdf.. and his vision.. In other words, they spent the last two wipes (or longer) tormenting players, intentionally modifying the game to intentionally cause distress amongst the player base. They are apparently going to revert these changes now, but no announcement has been made as to when.. currently each map still has it's own que pool.. This guy gets paid way to much just to fuck with his customers minds. Not a single idea he had was good, and they have to revert every change they made because of his vision.

[fervent anvil]

thats literally been proven to be wrong ...

[neat breach]

No, there just wasn't enough conclusive evidence for a criminal case, if they're paying Nexon, clearly some things were indeed taken.

[fervent anvil]

they are paying cause they pushed it down to sdf using his memories of the game to make dark and darker. which is the dumbest fucking logic ever

nothing was stolen

[neat breach]

If you're part of a team of people that creates something, and you leave, and choose to rebuild it from memory. That's not stealing? Elaborate. If the ideas didn't' exist in his head before Nexon, then I argue it's theft.

It's called IP in the professional realm.

[fervent anvil]

is titan fall stolen from cod just cause the founders of respawn used to be cod devs?

both are fps shooters

[oblique steeple]

are the 5 gear brackets and solo duo trio every map in the game yet or na

[neat breach]

No.

[oblique steeple]

dank q

thought we had 2.8k players with those changes, that would infact be over

[neat breach]

TitanFall has many differences to CoD, you obviously see the difference.

Gameplay even varies one game to the next

[fervent anvil]

and p3 wasnt deved enough to have anything close to playable to show if it was completely stolen. only screenshots :) it couldve been the same. it couldve been different. *** we dont know as the game wasnt actually fucking developed***

[neat breach]

We also don't know how far along in development the game was.

Again I understand the IP argument.

[fervent anvil]

if it was anywhere close to having gameplay they wouldve shown it during the case. they only shown screenshots. :)

[pine wyvern]

i love how he talks abt gear differences are a core part and still has norms with artifact limit 😭

[neat breach]

If there were screenshots, there was a playable game...

[fervent anvil]

thats just completely wrong but sure think what you want :). not interacting with someone who has no idea how stuff works. enjoy being a rage baiter :)

[neat breach]

lmao bro, how did they take a screenshot then?

One thing if they rendered their own images of their assets

that's not the same as a screenshot

[livid onyx]

He also talks about the return of squire/low gear lobbies

[pine wyvern]

hilarious

[livid onyx]

Players want gear gaps, I was fine with random modifiers gone but the main influencer/ streamers trashed the "bis" because there as no difference in gear besides rarity

[pine wyvern]

yeah i liked no mods ngl like why do legendarys have 4 rolls lmao thats crazy

[livid onyx]

Yeah it was the most fun without random rolls, i could just run gear and not min max at every angle.

[neat breach]

"Lowkey they bamboozled us because of the lawsuit. It’s my belief that SDF did in fact steal that idea in its entirety from Nexon and after getting caught and being sued, was advised (by a lawyer) to make all these insane and completely unreasonable changes to avoid having to plead completely guilty. Courts over there work differently than ours after all.
And then blamed it publicly on incompetence and being a new and inexperienced dev team.
Food for thought."

Not my words, but it really makes you think.

[livid onyx]

One random roll would've been better, less variance less inflation

Plus crafted gear has more value when any crafts have 2 rolls compared to other gear only having 1 roll.

Cobalt armor pen+ one roll, copper light .5 MS and one roll ect

[neat breach]

Love me that Cobalt

[fervent garnet]

These thoughts have already been running around in my mind for months. There is a strong possibility and to be honest, they aren't far-fetched.

[neon shell]

idk what to think about the updates on sdf kitchen

actions would have been nicer than words

and actual good actions not the ones made by monkeys

[void kestrel]

my thoughts on sdf's wall of text kitchen: "I'm happy for you. Or I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm not reading all of that"

[pine wyvern]

love getting teamed on in high roller against druid that does 150 damage to head

WWWW game fyeeeeee

[vast spade]

i dont know where to ask that but how does the goldsmith work? i cant put my item in there to socket it

[pine wyvern]

u left click the item then select what roll u would like to gem u need same gem rarity as piece u want to gem

[gilded iris]

@half canyon

[vast spade]

left click .. i tried everything else - tyvm!

[pine wyvern]

yup np most selects in this game are left click

[haughty swift]

Ppl still play this game lol

[wild wharf]

Whatsup

[burnt shard]

Combine Ruins, Gobo caves and frost mountain in one queue. Starting out in Ruins u can either pick to go down into Crypts or frost mountain, once down in either crypts or frostmountain u can either choose to go down into their respective hells or gobo caves. this solution would combine all the queues into one but also let solo duo and trio queues back into any map.

[dusky moon]

Where can I get tech support?

[silver smelt]

Even in defeat, players should feel “I could have won if I had played better.” To ensure this, HTK adjustments, hitbox compensation, and other methods will be used to guarantee at least a minimal chance for skill to overcome disadvantage.

Hotfix 95:
headshot damage multiplier: 200% → 250%

[tacit tangle]

I read the announcement and they told us that there will be a semi wipe on the 26th and then another wipe the following 23th of September? Did I read that correctly? I am planning to grind the quests once they reset but I don't see the point if they reset again the next month.

[mystic sky]

SDF's kitchen post addresses the problems this game has had for the past 2 years, yet he only keeps circling around the issue and doesn't actually provide any solutions. They're not planning to fix the game currently.

He complains that the gear gap is too high and the time investment is crazy because the game has too many stats that require farming. Solution? Include more gear brackets 🤪

Something that has been tried like 20 times before

It could never be to remove stats like all attributes and true damage from the game. Oh no, God forbid we hurt real money players

[stark spoke]

I dont wanna fucking solutions or new content, hes already trash I even can satisfied with solo ruins. why its restricted lmao I DONT WANNA STEP UP JUST STOP STEP DOWN

[mystic sky]

I wanted solutions, but I haven't seen a single one in the last entire year, just more problems

They probably already forgot how to implement the old map rotation system that was in play almost 2 years ago

When the game had like 20x the amount of players and they were still worrying about lobby sizes

The new water mob looks like crap too, the animation doesn't seem to fit how far the attack hits

[tacit tangle]

The rotation system was great. Why did they remove that? Now I am stuck in goblin caves if I want to play solo pvps.

[odd grove]

streamers cried that they couldnt join the map they wanted instantly so it got reverted

[stark spoke]

I dont mind hitbox or some other little things anymore just let me play the game alone its so sad and amazing I cant

[mystic sky]

In the end it looks like this game was made only for streamers, and now that they're going away it caters to nobody

[severe coyote]

lets not pretend they do stuff because "streamers", 99 percent of their streamers are solo enjoyers and they legit removed solos lol

[stark spoke]

yea they always patch streamers wants it was amazing too

[mystic sky]

That's a fair point tbh. But SDF constantly takes bad decisions because of streamers and then bad decisions because of the vision

[odd grove]

ive been here longer than you i know what happened lol

[mystic sky]

That's probably the only instance I can remember where everyone universally hated the change

[half kernel]

One day you will miss the clowwn emoji's on your posts. That is when you will know you well and truly fumbled this game into oblivion.

[mystic sky]

Enlighten us

[mystic sky]

😂

[odd grove]

aint no way im starting a chat debate go back to your monologues lol

[mystic sky]

Speaking of the honk emojis, they used to be 6k before, now they're only averaging 2k... People have given up

[severe coyote]

not enogh players to honk it

[severe coyote]

You're pretty cool kid.

[odd grove]

Game would be fixed if they added pregmant goblin though

🙏

[severe coyote]

I bet you look like a pregnant goblin lol

[odd grove]

are you tilted or something

[severe coyote]

❤️

[odd grove]

💑

[silver smelt]

Is league of legends more skill expressive than CS GO?

Is league a skill expression game or is it wisdom expression game? What about dark and darker?

[tacit tangle]

@silver smelt I found CS GO being a "stare at the corner simulator" where MOBA games in general is arguing with your teammates and trying to get them work together.

[thorny hemlock]

LoL has infinite skill ceiling

[tacit tangle]

More like limited skill ceiling. You can be a God player but you can only do so much if your team is lacking. That does not apply in CSGO if you have God level aim.

[thorny hemlock]

u also aim on lol

if u have insane mechanics you can 1v9

[tacit tangle]

Not in a moba pro match you can't. Maybe 1 in a milion. In casual sure all the time.

[thorny hemlock]

idk fps feels the same

i find more difficult to be the best on LoL than others games

[silver smelt]

Should dark and darker be more like moba or fps

[thorny hemlock]

since LoL is the most played game in the world

[fervent anvil]

nah its way harder to be the best in something like dcs compared to other games

[frosty carbon]

whens the wipe guys?

[fervent anvil]

23

[frosty carbon]

august?

[fervent anvil]

ye

[frosty carbon]

huh in 6 days?

[fervent anvil]

then another wipe next month

[frosty carbon]

how sure are you about that

[fervent anvil]

cause the devs said it themselves

[hidden carbon]

is there a way to report someone for teaming in games on solos i havea video clip/ cant do a video in game

[tacit tangle]

Dude nobody plays dcs. There is no point in grinding to become better if there is no reward.

[fervent anvil]

i think theres an option on their website. best option is to just report it in game tho

[fervent anvil]

just cause you dont think that theres a point in having fun. doesnt mean other people dont think theres a point :)

[tacit tangle]

@fervent anvil You think proffesional Esports players grind 24/7 for fun?

[fringe magnet]

this game is ass

[fervent anvil]

no they grind cause they get paid to grind :) whyd you think some people play sim games?

[tacit tangle]

@fervent anvil Than why do you bring a game like dcs that is played by a bunch of casuals with a count of under 1 000 and claim that it has a higher skill ceiling like fps or moba team games?

[fervent anvil]

cause dcs is a game i enjoy playing :) and alot of other people also enjoy it :)

[radiant basin]

SDF is so stupid lol

[willow barn]

wait so if me and my duo qeuee up into trios with a random we can see each others name but if we get a third person then we cant?

[barren oxide]

still no better game than dnd, yet dnd is not best dnd

[winged herald]

game STILL sucks

this game is good for people who wake up happy and immediately want to hate the world, everyone else, and themselves

[grim ginkgo]

When semi semi semi wipe

[karmic granite]

Correct makes zero sense right? lol

Let’s be at a disadvantage because I wanna play with my friends

[winged herald]

dogsh1t game

[fossil kayak]

so true: this game is about PAIN. Inflicting PAIN on yourself, the other players, the playerbase. PAIN

[trim socket]

I’m a new player, used to the wipe system which I fully understand. But honestly, what’s the point of doing a wipe 4 weeks before another wipe just to add content? Who in their studio made that decision thinking it could actually have a positive impact on the game? It seems to me that the developers are deliberately destroying the game.

[ivory prairie]

When we getting a rogue buff like this class is so weak

[hasty creek]

will someone pls play ice caverns with me?

[ivory aurora]

No

[hasty creek]

ok what about frost mountains?

[ivory aurora]

/me pulls magic conch shell... no

Weird, why didn't it do the thing?

[mint junco]

thrust or dagger master on rogue?

or maybe jokester?

[merry monolith]

is it true that in the upcoming wipe you lose absolutely everything except your cosmetics like all the chests and coin bags also does it count if you got the coinbags and chests from your religion ?

[fervent anvil]

yes thats what normally happens during a wipe

[merry monolith]

appreaciate it

[void kestrel]

I wonder if sdf is actually working on the game or is he putting around like the main character of Office Space until the lawsuit is finished

[livid onyx]

My goal is to share cheese

[fervent anvil]

🧀

[fossil bluff]

VISION

[arctic laurel]

when is wipe not played this game in months is it any better yet

[prisma lava]

Why on earth is this semi semi wipe on a tuesday :/

[void kestrel]

Check again at the end of September

[craggy dew]

LET SDF COOK

[signal sparrow]

does lantern count for dual wielding

[prisma lava]

no

[signal sparrow]

thanks big dawg

[glossy talon]

i cant block clubs with my shield, is it broken?

[mighty ore]

get rid of ranger 2 shot longbow and shotgun ability then maybe i come back to the game. just got done with a 2 month break and wizard still is the best melee class. ranger is still two shotting people with longbow and has shotgun a 100hp kill mechanic. that is still bugged out where you can jump into a enemy shield and lean into them with shotgun so a shield cannot block it. for some reason club is dealing more dmg then a two hander. love the time i had with the game but unless if the new wipe actually addresses people using felling axe in your feet as a viable out dps mechanic. ranger longbow dmg and wizards ability to do everything from 50 to 80 dmg staff hits and have spells. a new content drop will never work for the long run people will only end up frustrated. as we veterans all have felt after getting a grasp for the game.

[late ravine]

really hoping this semi-semi-wiped ass gets rid of circle and reverts reduced match time for HR. There's literally no incentive and norms is dominated by juicers.

[void kestrel]

I guess you haven't seen the cleric two shotting classes with spellbook bonk, yet

[mighty ore]

@void kestrel watched the video about it pretty crazy the only time i ever seen people semi happy was when ttk was high only issue at that point was healing and buff ball were running through lobbys

[void kestrel]

people would be a lot happier if they actually added content to the game instead of playing balance bs where things are changed and reverted ad nauseum for the past year and a half. Big waste of time

[mighty ore]

@void kestrel yea agree new weapons and monster/boss monsters has been lacking but until ranger and wizard get addressed nobody is staying for long

at least fighter is not two shotting with longbow

you can still backstep with shotgun drawn and lean into shields and one shot people

shields are better now but they still do not block a ranger who knows how to shotgun behind the shield hitbox

[void kestrel]

tbh, I've seen ranger shotgun kill someone maybe twice in the past year. Most of the abuse comes from druids using rat/chicken/panther to abuse map locations and sdf has no answer for it because it's the class he plays

[main lintel]

Druids just straight up need a 1 second cd before form change... or at least a .5 second morphing animation for the change

[mighty ore]

@void kestrel druid is in a fine spot now they have alot of different builds bear nerf went in a good spot you can bug out the hit box of the bear with enough action speed so invisible bear swipes were happening and wizard only needs 130 150 hp with ice shield and reactive shield so panther cant even scare them

[south copper]

yes instant transform is whack because you have no idea what you are fighting you are only playing catch up to their actions at any given moment

[void kestrel]

threading a needle, i.e. hitting a druid in rat form for non-aoe ( most ) classes is not a good spot. Almost impossible to punish 9 times out of 10

[graceful storm]

Why does my internet go out every time I try to launch the game

[south copper]

the spellbook is actually really good at hitting the rat btw, ive booked many rats in the past couple weeks

[mighty ore]

@south copperafter you get enough time fighting druid you get the hang if it only problems arise when they just watch you and wait for after you fight someone they can play a very evil play style

i dont even play druid but i really like how many builds they have

[frigid citrus]

When exactly is the semi semi wipe

[south copper]

another delay before adding new content so they dont want to call it a new season i guess

[frigid citrus]

Yea but when is it

[south copper]

oh misread sorry, On August 26, we will be doing a ‘Semi-Semi-Wipe’

[frigid citrus]

Ok thank you didn’t wanna waste my bis kits

[viscid condor]

Hello, i am having issues: game says "Failed to connect to server, quit the game." Not sure what to do, been google searching for about 30 mins.

any help would be greatly appreciated

[weary hedge]

I ended up wiping my drive when it did that for me. I heard that deactivating malwarebytes helps too

[viscid condor]

I have tried eveything, reinstalling, clearing cache changing directory.. im not sure what happened from yesterday to today. nothing changed? Just reinstalled steam and reinstalling the game again T_T if this doest work im sadly gonna have to give up

[weary hedge]

Nah I had to do a fresh windows install when I had this same issue it was unbearable. I play on blacksmith so hopefully a steam reinstall helps

[analog furnace]

nexon would have done it better

[mint marsh]

If you have game issues, please contact the dark and darker Support on the Website 👍

[steady python]

why would they add solo duo and trios to every map? the game is already dead. you literally can't divide the player base any more. The best option would simply be to make frost mountain ALSO a trio map and just remove the extremely dead duos

[woven island]

open cmd as admin
netsh winsock reset
restart pc
try again

[viral storm]

Is arena still ssf or what

[woven island]

no

[amber inlet]

two shitheads i randomly spawned with just tk'd me and took my stuff. no way to report these griefers?

[woven island]

karma system you can punish TK and they can't queue for a few mins 5-6?

Also if they extract with your gear it returns it to you

[amber inlet]

nope they lost it all cause they died

[viscid condor]

YOU ARE A LEGEND

T_T i was about to give up thank you so much!

[fresh plinth]

y4mi is the reason this game is dead teaming in solos then saying ur gonna get someone banned cause they said the f word

[amber inlet]

game blows if you can't punish sh!thead activity like that, if I was a new player I would uninstall

[fresh plinth]

teaming should be an iommediate ban unless it is on bosses not taking my kits i that cost 5k to build which is 2 hours of playtime without dying its ridiculous then someone says a f slur while raging cause ur teaming on them its ridiculous ideaology soft ass kids become a 200 viewer streamer on a video game and think theyre something complete garbage can

[mellow lance]

but look at how virtuous he is ohhhh

[tacit tangle]

Have they tried to make friendly fire damage reduced? And repeated damage disconnects and bans you for a while. A lot of other games has this system.

[steady python]

it's crazy how bad dynamic experiences in an open world trigger you. It triggers you so bad you demand everyone else kill on site and be as uncreative as you are

[fresh plinth]

crazy that youre backing up teaming in a SOLOS GAME MODE

solos doesnt mean hey i am getting shit on let me go get a friend who knows im a streamer and come back and dominate this dude together

that would make anyone rage its awful to load into solos and die to someone teaming in SOLOS

[mellow lance]

being teamed on in a mode called solos when uve invested hours/days into what your wearing around is absurd , all for what so 5% of the pop that actually does roleplay and have freindly encounters is still able too and the other 95% can abuse it for more progress

[fresh plinth]

it is absolutely absurd that a streamer who does nothing other in there life is teaming on someone

[lyric lava]

whens the wipe

[vagrant fulcrum]

[August 26, there will be a ‘Semi-Semi-Wipe’](#📢announcements message)

[The next season has been delayed one month to September 23rd.](#📢announcements message)

[median kiln]

my game is just stuck on connecting playing from epic games

trying to migrate

[sonic maple]

Can't play from epic q

[turbid onyx]

all servers are dogwater or just SA ones? the first 3 minutes are rubberbanding bullsh1t nonstop?

[grizzled citrus]

yeah i just left because of the teaming. every damn kit today lost to 2-5 people talking trash while chasing you down. the panther chicken jump behind me turning into bear while the barb hits me from the other side. terrible game

[trail flicker]

wtf is this sdf kitchen update? He said nothing. It was more of a "last time on dragonball z" like yeah we fking know and once again everything you said was a lie about how his thinking was. Anyways moving on Is tehre any confirmation about rotation of maps regarding team size

[tough lance]

YOUR GAME IS DISGUSTING SDF. PLEASE GIVE ANYONE ELSE THE KEYS. QUIT.

THE VISON (YOU PROBABLY STOLE) OF THIS GAME GIVE IT TO ANYONE ELSE TO FIX. WE HATE IT. NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I PLAYED SOMETHING WITH SUCH POTENTIAL BE SO BADLY EXECUTED. FOR REAL, QUIT.

GOOD LUCK WITH COURT I HOPE YOU LOSE.

[median kiln]

then how do i migrate my account

[sonic maple]

Search in chat there's instructions from when people were doing that

[median kiln]

it says i have until november 1 why the change

[flat coyote]

Servers haven’t worked for almost a month for me lmao

[median kiln]

damn so thats that i guess lost my legendary status and all my stuff huh

[flat coyote]

There’s a good chance the game will be shutdown in about a months time .

[median kiln]

what a scam

why cant we get one game for this genre

[bold salmon]

how do i find the skeleton warlord? ive been looking and cant find it

[vagrant fulcrum]

The Warlord is located in the Crypts level. Search for a room that has something like a circle and star-pattern drawn on it. The vault module has a similar layout.
The boss is sometimes near or on the middle module. Warlord spawns only 50% of the time.

[nova jetty]

There’s no way to have casual fun anymore. BiS in norms is just boring.

[bold salmon]

got it so im just unlucky then, thank you <3

[nova jetty]

Once was a good game. Had all the tools but none of the brains to follow through.

[flat coyote]

Too many experiments and not listening to the player base just wanting to mess around hiding behind EA

[nova jetty]

Just make norms SSF and have HR be anything goes. People running around in BiS in norms ruined the casual part of the experience.

This game is (was) dope but I don’t wanna invest hours into it especially now. I just wanna hop on an get some of that good juicy pvp that keeps me interested.

I headshot, vortexed, parried a felling axe, and got both counter hits in - I was in squire and he had full bis in norms - I lose and all he did was LMB and w key…

That gonna make anyone not wanna play this trash heap

[polar scarab]

Hey havent played in a long time and i was just wondering why's the games playercount died so badly if anyone could fill me in

[sonic maple]

It

[mild tulip]

SDF

[rigid fractal]

removal of solos

[daring smelt]

if the game wipes in 5 days why the fuck would they not keep arena open until then

[rigid fractal]

make it open 24/7

[gray rivet]

not enough players is my guess

[delicate veldt]

can we start guilds?

[manic walrus]

from #sdfs-kitchen #sdfs-kitchen message
dude's a complete troglodyte, losing a player in 3v3 is crippling no shit that's why there's revive shrines? it's completely natural and no one was complaining about that

if lower skilled and lower geared players are struggling then maybe match them up with people of similar gear or skill? lol

[rigid fractal]

arena by far the most popular game mode

other than solos

[gray rivet]

Exactly lol

[grim gate]

this is the vision W

[dusky wing]

DAILY REMINDER Theres no new weapons, there hasnt been in what seems like years. If devs dont decide to actually do anything worthwhile we wont have weapons for another year.
Weapons are one of the biggest features of the game weve had no updates on except for weak sorcery magic - Player from Season 1

[daring smelt]

stale game absolute dogs hit

[dense berry]

adventure mode is where the real fun is

[daring smelt]

zero reason to play, literally play meta or just dont play

id rather eat a slug than play adventure mode

[gloomy wraith]

I don't understand the logic of this game.
I'm playing against gold and purple players in normal games. Is that right?
Why does HR exist if everyone is in normal games?
Only beginners are getting screwed in the game.
Is it possible that there are no new players?

[daring smelt]

there is no reason, they cater to opinions of pay to play streamers bro

fucking absolute trash

[gloomy wraith]

이 게임의 논리를 이해할 수 없네요.
일반 게임에서 금색과 보라색 플레이어들과 대결하고 있는데, 이게 맞는 건가요?
HR은 왜 존재하는 건가요?
초보자들이 게임을 포기하고 있어요.
일반 게임은 모두 흰색 플레이어로 구성되어야 HR을 플레이하기 위해 인텐스를 얻을 수 있도록 하는 게 논리적일 것 같아요.

[dense berry]

what streamers lol, all the ones I saw religiously playing this game six months ago are now playing other games

[daring smelt]

exactly

dead stale content, zero effort in player retention

many games take this path

cater to the loudest, not neccesarily the ones that experience the game on the widest scope

[dense berry]

I only play for adventure mode. Calm, peaceful, centered.

[daring smelt]

to me that is ust playing farmville

[dense berry]

Yea I'm not there for the challenge

I just need a break sometimes from the other dead game I play

[daring smelt]

sorry old man bro but i played since alpha when is was the most difficult, you spoend 30 misn and werent even garenteed an out unless you backstabbed your team

[dense berry]

I been around a while, long before pve came around, I tolerated the pvp because I always liked the game play

[daring smelt]

pvp is the only thing i enjoy about this game

i want to be incontrol of the other teams perception , i do this by cotrolling the darkenss

[dense berry]

then it is unfortunate for you what the game has become and I hope it turns around one day

[fervent anvil]

the games gotten slightly harder over time. it wasnt "most difficult" back then. everyone just sucked

[daring smelt]

its bullshit, tbh and i cant even just run mindless arena because even tho it wipes in 5 days its not avaliable

[fervent anvil]

take a break before wipe happens :)

[daring smelt]

you're a fool.

[dense berry]

oh there's a full wipe in 5 days?

[fervent anvil]

semi semi

[daring smelt]

all gear and quests

[dense berry]

semi again? wtf

[fervent anvil]

not semi again. semi squared

[daring smelt]

zero reason to play, unless youre doing arena

[dense berry]

I just reinstalled lol, what is sdf smoking, what is the purpose

[fervent anvil]

its basically just a full wipe without the big update that comes with a full wipe

[daring smelt]

and arena isnt active

[dense berry]

And what does the dev team intend to accomplish with these semi wipes? What function is it serving?

[vast prawn]

It’s gonna be SSF for two weeks which is cool

[tropic anchor]

yo guys when is the actual wipe?

[fervent anvil]

its end of wipe. most people stop playing

[vast prawn]

I’m prob not gonna play tho lol wait til September

[daring smelt]

its like whoever is incontrol of the game cares more about its indentured servants of "customer base" that they inflict this testing shiiii on i, thought there was a beta branch for a reason

[fervent anvil]

full wipe should be next month

[tropic anchor]

mhm mhm hopefully they wont fuck it up 😡

[fervent anvil]

they dont use it cause yall never actually play it or report anything from it :)

[fervent anvil]

we getting the water map and maybe a scimitar

[daring smelt]

yeah so anyone who has payed money for the game basically the entire game is beta branch

there should be better incentives for beta branching testing, not just fuckiing out of the goodnesss of your heart

those are actual paying jobs

[fervent anvil]

and why you think you deserve rewards for playing a different branch of the game? you play the test branch to play stuff early and give feedback to make it better for when it actually comes to the game. thats more then enough :)

[daring smelt]

because you are doing a paid jobs labouir for free

obviously. you must love being a slave to others will

[inland dune]

i like to play the video game for fun

[daring smelt]

but when it isnt fun what do

just move on, got it , dead game

never give up ythe power of your own perception, its unique and important

[inland dune]

find other things to do in life

if you live on this game evry day any game will get stale

[daring smelt]

i can only play like a few hours ever few days

[fervent anvil]

yes and they have testers that test stuff :) the test server is just an extra layer where players can mess around with new stuff early :)

[daring smelt]

and the game is catered to people who play 24/7

i have 4k+ hours total i do have no life days

[fervent anvil]

if your not liking the game then why are you here? if your not having fun then like you said "just move on" :)

[daring smelt]

but its ridiculous

to discuss how to improve what i like?

[fervent anvil]

yes thats how loot and gear based extraction games normally are :) tarkov is the same :)

[daring smelt]

because i see it going a BAD DIRECTION?

are you blind m8

letting your bias and ego prevail man emapthize witha brother

[fervent anvil]

just cause its not going in a direction you like doesnt mean its going in a bad direction :) plenty of other people are liking the game still :)

[daring smelt]

its just foolish,meta chasers remaining

no need to improve if you chase the new op game breaking thing

ofc,

[fervent anvil]

its a game with pvp. thats gonna happen. but alot of new players are still coming to the game :)

[daring smelt]

i only enjoy playing with newer players and i show them unique tricks and ideas, i try and spread antimeta tactics

[fervent anvil]

then go do that instead of complaining about something here :)

[daring smelt]

i play lots of pvp games, and its a shame how many of the community turn to things that have low skillexpression/ the devs lack of response to those obviosu blunders

i am speaking with the community/ for my self not just to you, get over the ego thing

[fervent anvil]

its not the devs fault that players use the meta :) some people like just having an easy time while still winning :)

[daring smelt]

i just literally said it was the players ands devs com,bined faultsd

blind fool,

anyways ive had my share

toxic positivity gets us nowherere

:[

[fervent anvil]

yes and im saying its not on the devs :) they constantly do balance changes yet the players still find the easiest way to win :) its always gonna happen. and balance is in a much better spot right now compared to anytime before :) why do you think basically every hr people are complaining about a different class?

[daring smelt]

i do agree balance is the best, also the gear gaps is in the best spot

right now, however, theres some like, unobvious things that stand out

,rangers cosant damage and escape potential, the sorc stunning and levitating for like 10 seconds total, range meta being seriously unbalnced, theres not enough negatives to any casters or ranged classed

there should be a limit to ranged potential on a given team

[fervent anvil]

range meta is completely fine in the mode that they balance around :)

shields and tank characters exist for a reason :)

[daring smelt]

thats not fair to assert against high geared matches, what im saying is theres so much focus around whats "fair" in squire kits, but in actual kits the entire specturm of balance flips

so you get these changes that basically redueces a classes effectiveness by 10-15% overall, in a fight, and theres no change to range meta and claster spam, people who knwo what they are doing exploit theser mechanics and it creats unwinnable scenarios

warlock healing for more damage than an entire team does during an arena match and things such

[echo yarrow]

dead game guys, go to sleep

[daring smelt]

^

toxic smile

just be genuine

[fervent anvil]

they balance around high gear :)

[daring smelt]

this season has been the best for gear blaance

but that doesnt mean the classes have equal power

consider each class having between 3-8 power

if you get a few classes of 4-5 power together and ther other team is meta comp triple 8 power

[fervent anvil]

its almost like the classes are designed to work together so something like caster wizards lack of good melee is solved by playing with a fighter

[daring smelt]

yours at a significant disadvanatge overall no matter your gear or strategy, unless you get a sneak pick

[fervent anvil]

when you have a bad team comp that happens :)

[daring smelt]

i mean i get you

i suggest make each class, akin to a "guild" and you may only ahve teams of 3 different "guilds"

so you cant ahve a sorc, wiz , warlock on one team, or a fighter barb and rogue on a team

would be cool to try some limited class groupings

to reduce the ranged potential on a given team

[fervent anvil]

thats just a horrible idea lol

[daring smelt]

beta branch

[fervent anvil]

and again. bring a shield

[daring smelt]

bro anyone who knwos what their doing

a sheild is nothing, everyknows aim below the sheild

[fervent anvil]

bring a bigger shield :)

[daring smelt]

bros coping

toxic positivity

[delicate steppe]

Ye he's cooked

[fervent anvil]

nah you just have no idea how this game works lol

[daring smelt]

stop projecting your insecurities my ego centric duder

🫃

[fervent anvil]

no ones ego centric here :) im just tryna explain how this game works to a brick wall

[daring smelt]

lol

non empathetic, even when i look to your side you deny my view

[steady python]

the game is already dead and they are going to re add solo duo and trio queues to every map?...

[fervent anvil]

games not dead :) its just end of wipe

[vague quest]

brother... its been 3-5k for literally months.

[fervent anvil]

Guess all vr games and games with less then 5k players are dead games then

[vague quest]

not saying the game is dead, but "its just end of wipe" is just wrong

[fervent anvil]

Game pop will go up on wipe :)

[vague quest]

thats what people said last wipe... it didnt...

[fervent anvil]

It did :)

[vague quest]

we went from 7k for 1 week is not it going up

[rugged venture]

whats people thoughts on the matching system, ive had so many games where i load in solo goblin caves 10 gear score and get 1 tapped or 2 tapped by a gear score 400? just want thoughts

[vague quest]

add back gear limits to norms is my opinion

[rugged venture]

my thoughts excatly

then maybe hardcore would then be hardcore mode any gear scores just pay for entrance, thats why its called hardcore? thoughts?

[mild sinew]

+1 also be able to swat away farts

[vague quest]

anybody who says they shouldnt add back gear limits is just a timmy stomping no life

[ivory aurora]

you'd be surprised how many are just that

[mild sinew]

i stomp everybody with blue gear just fine with the dmg update

[rugged venture]

i was playing a while back and gear scores was a great matching system, then i come back after a couple months to find it gone, i can tell you it took a little bit of time for me to get back into the game because of how i thought the matching system was just fucked, i feel bad for any begginer trying to learn, itll be an instant uninstall after 5 games

[ivory aurora]

thats the problem with making a game designed and balanced for hardcore players, since they are vastly outnumbered by casual and the middleground players. They get frustrated and the playerbase eventually boils down only to hardcore gamers and then they'll essentially bar new players by frustrating them with crushing defeat after crushing defeat

[rapid lava]

Play ranger and hit your headshots or barb

[civic summit]

Wait so I've been lurking reading sdf kitchen since may to see if he was ever gonna revert all these wacky changes and make the game playable for me again, are we actually back? did he finally get the memo and give the word to fix the game back???

[warm furnace]

What is a good felling axe Build ?

[fervent anvil]

Hp defence

[mild sinew]

can I get a ho ya

[modern kiln]

any1 want a fire wizard kit

[modern nacelle]

Try asking in the wizard channel.

[nova bronze]

The fact alone that druid is as disgustingly unbalanced as it is right now AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN is the biggest indicator of SDFs narcissism and brain deficiency, and the reason that this game is dying. #SDFHomelessBy2026

[proud brook]

ya i quit a loooong time ago cuz of druid. been checking back here and there to see if its nerfed or fixed or removed

[abstract hazel]

Is under 25s back yet

[ivory aurora]

never

[tacit tiger]

is goblin merchant re-enabled? i just got all my gear back after dying

[burnt shard]

if a teammate gets out with your gear u can get it back

[haughty hemlock]

Hey, I'm a new player and I've been really enjoying Druid so far the class feels fun and flexible, and it’s nice to feel like I actually have a shot against geared players instead of just being farmed over and over like Timmy. I can definitely see how someone more experienced might see it as broken, but honestly, it feels like most of the classes are pretty busted if you really know how to play them. Just my perspective as someone fresh to the game

[fading nymph]

Whats up with this semi wipe? how does that work

[lament verge]

I hate how every time I try to play DaD again the game is completely different and always somehow worse off than it was

Sdf is reverse engineering a good game into a dead one

The only familiarity is features everyone hated but SDF brought back and deleted again just to look busy

Oh and brought back again

And removed again. Nice switch flipping!

[haughty hemlock]

Maybe, but honestly Tarkov did the same thing took something that had a ton of potential and slowly reversed it into the ground. At least here there's still some room for fun depending on how you play

[hardy stump]

this is what happens, when both developer and most vocal players actually believe that best way forwards is full steam backwards

also, remove cancer circle or continuous dungeon, they are mutually exclusive features

[barren trellis]

SDF doesn't have the brainpower to reach this conclusion

[oblique parrot]

Well, the people playing them are dead inside. If that counts.

[hardy stump]

its 2k tho

[tame oxide]

It has never been that low

[nova bronze]

You presented that eloquently and kindly, and Im glad youre enjoying the game.

[tacit heath]

is this a merchant wipe or just inventory wipe?

[tame oxide]

Idk what either of those are meant to mean. It's a full wipe

Just read #📢announcements message

[midnight zealot]

game stuck in connecting ironmace launcher? anyone?

[tacit wing]

Games dead

[honest pelican]

i have come to the understanding of why most my raids feel dead empty in trios outside of player count, all the player slots are being filled by solo rouges

[slow viper]

where i can get firecamping?

i need for a quest 🙁

[hardy stump]

small chests, barrels, crates

[slow viper]

is so hard i think , i dont get one XD

[tough lance]

I'm sorry for my comments. i love you sdf.

[vast spade]

Ahoi, is there a "season-ending" quest that gives a cosmetic or race reward this season?

[vagrant fulcrum]

The skeleton merchant gives a lobby emote. I think there's something else too, like an in-game emote?

[vast spade]

thank you - thats a lot of bones ngl

[vagrant fulcrum]

You'll also need ||10 intact skull|| (spoiler in case you don't want to know) for the last quest

[gloomy wraith]

People enter HR white itens to get colorful intens to play NORMAL GAME COLORFUL ...

DEVs, stop deluding yourselves and see reality.

Set NORMAL GAME EVERYONE STARTS WHITE,
Set HR everyone can only start colored

Stop thinking about what could be, and see what you are creating.

[keen walrus]

paid actor.

[flat juniper]

Feet enjoyer W

[solemn raft]

hello zander.

[swift fern]

hello dominic.

[gloomy wraith]

People enter HR white itens to get colorful intens to play NORMAL GAME COLORFUL ...

[gentle kayak]

Guys what is different between semi wipe and wipe?

[abstract hazel]

Permanent squire arena is the only thing that can save us now

[plain loom]

anyone has problems to enter a game right now???

[gusty birch]

The village needs your help, Graysun! Some months ago, SDF's druid get perished... This went him into a rage. He seemed to slip deeper into madness. With his dying breath Druid called down a terrible curse upon a world (panther double jump). Less than half of us survived his insanity...
This is where things take an even darker twist than I thought possible! Our former King has risen from his eternal sleep (with new panther animation) and now commands a legion of Druids... He vowed that they would serve him in darkness forever...

[dreamy ocean]

hey, does slayer fighter work with a shield?

[honest pelican]

no requires weapon

[dreamy ocean]

ok thank you

[hardy stump]

normals are for pvp exclusively in minds of bis sweats, because they can just ignore pve and wipe out timmies in the lobby who don't know that, the vision is gate keeping and chasing away new players as fast as possible so the population can reach the vision numbers of 200 concurrency of these bissed out sweats fighting each other in almost empty lobbies

[round cove]

where do you find the scroll of forgotten knowledge

[gloomy wraith]

ys

[mellow steppe]

lmao the game is dead

[gusty birch]

Bruh , what kind of timmies you talkin about? Its hard to pve and things like first 1-2 weeks, and cause grey gear, obviously. But then even Timmy starts to realise that he can do pretty safe runs for 500-1000-1500 each run even by solo in ruined castle.. So basically , only then its first days of wipe - things are hard to earn cause drop rates (and they just fair) and no market. By the time market comes and you can get your blue-purple after 1 run. And then go to full gemmed purple after next run. So basically items are not worth much in here and thats why some people just push in fights endlessly

[hardy stump]

DaD steam numbers are comparable to Goooon and gooooner

[hardy stump]

that is a very "I play DaD for 8 hours a day" take

[gusty birch]

If you check numbers in game, it also will be like 3 k lobbie 2 k game, at the same time steam charts will be sayin its only 2 k online.
About 8 hours - you might be kiddin.. Im playin like 3-4-6 runs a day. And pickpocket and chill pretty much 70% of runs. Still i somehow manage to get my 100 k for religion, things for big coin chest quest. And like , there is nothing i cant afford. So i really dont see the problem and my vote will be for lowering drop rates for items ( Cause now we can say "green" Is actually common, cause you gonna see it in every chest every run. And try to find grey short sword to forge it into silver one lol)

[hardy stump]

go adventure if you want to see gray items in lionshead chests

[gusty birch]

Also kinda funny, but before this pre-wipe , im actually found another Big coin chest in like second PVE goblin caves gold pile 😹
And i know that thing you talking about, like artifact guys in normals making you just flee. By the way , legendary grade were the highest one that can be dropped/equipped in normal like few weeks ago. And you can say you can escape with like half inventory of those , if you just open some inferno golden chests with lockpick rogue in party. So i mean this "unique" bis guys from highroller not a big deal. Especially when you pull the grim smiles out of the pockets of these guys

[gentle kayak]

Guys what is different between semi wipe and wipe?

[true light]

short wipe and big wipe

semi wipe is like multiple wipes and wipe is one big wipe i think

[humble badge]

What the difference between semi semi wipe and semi wipe

[true light]

LMAO

lots of wipes in one season

[valid crag]

Wouldn’t semi wipe be significantly better if they just added multiclassing for fun and boosted artifsct drop rate to like 40%

[mellow lance]

yes but that makes too much sense for them to do

[manic scaffold]

Ok for sureeeeeeee +40

[fathom wagon]

Sdf needs more time to finish update so he wants to reset our gear to make us feel like its an update

[wicked stump]

game is ded and buried

[cold venture]

almost buried not yet, slight pulse still

[wicked stump]

only mostly ded

mostly ded is slightly alive

[valid crag]

Yeah so bosses stay extremely competitive and everyone is Pvp'ing a lot but also its worth it and fun, I feel for 2/3 weeks it can be a really nice twist at least to keep the playerbase less depressed

Obviously anywhere between 20-60 imo but I think 40 is good

[wicked siren]

When I hit escape, a menu opens that covers half the screen and I can't configure things properly. How can I remove it?

[agile tide]

humperdinck

[silent compass]

so in the semiwipe we lose all items or what?

[whole trail]

The announcements tell you everything

[abstract apex]

SDF just confirmed druid reverts 🥳 thanks SDF

[ocean eagle]

YOU MEAN SEMI-SEMI-WIPE? OR SEMI-WIPE? ITS SEMI WIPE NOW.

[junior wyvern]

lol u guys still falling for these dev's BS?

2k ppl playing, makes sense

[woven island]

Anyone do all the quests this season? Are there any hidden cosmetics?

[livid onyx]

As long as cleric troll cheese is around, I will be too

[sand sedge]

SEMI SEMI SEMI SEMI SEMI WIPE

[fervent anvil]

its end of wipe :)

[loud silo]

@fervent anvil ya know, that was said about the end of wipe with only 20k playing. Then it was said at the end of the wipe with only 10k playing. Then 5k. Now it's 2k. Bit much of a pattern to be saying "haha it's just end of wipe, don't worry guys.". It's just a cope at this point

[junior wyvern]

its been 2k playing all season 🙂

[radiant raptor]

is anyone have a lags in game? or this is my bad internet?

[loud silo]

@radiant raptor servers have been fried for a while now

[flat coyote]

I haven’t even been able to connect through steam for a month now

[junior wyvern]

its totally fine, the game is being super well managed lol

[radiant raptor]

ty!

[junior wyvern]

servers have always been atrocious. its a feature at this point

[hexed portal]

balls

[velvet quail]

all dungeons will be permanent fixed in solo duo and trio?

[dapper flicker]

everytime a player joins the lobby the game lags terribly for like 3 seconds

[wet junco]

semi wipe of semi wipe, how dead is this game for real

[graceful storm]

It's felt fun the past couple of weeks. The reduced queues makes it not feel so dead, but its a little dead since 90% of the playerbase is missing

[wet junco]

the last "real" content we had was the sorc class, and 8months later just nothing

[graceful storm]

The ice abyss changes were W not much other than that

[placid folio]

No water map

[strong galleon]

Rubber stamp forgot to pay the bills on two of the servers

[graceful storm]

Do what

[median anvil]

can everyone agree that achilles strike is total bs

[visual storm]

Just another game where there's no exits, 6 people fighting for 2 portals in the last minute, and not a single player making it out alive. Good time to wear my bis right? Basically no chance of living. Meanwhile also taking tick damage, while listening to the worst locust or "zone" audio in video games, while having my vision impaired and screen made darker. Anyways I'm switching to Battlefield when it comes out, after over a year of playing this game I watched it consecutively get brought into a worse state with every patch. I pity people who still play this game, feel bad for them, it's sad. I will no longer be living in a half wits vision. ty

[river beacon]

haha gg

[outer grail]

extremely laggy sometimes, especially in ruins.

[outer grail]

"as long as the player population continues to grow" -sdf

[sharp badge]

6 days for semi wipe or actual wipe? tf does this mean

[proven kraken]

people cant even be bothered to complain anymore.....let alone play the game

[frail merlin]

semi semi wipe is in 6 days 13 hours 47 mins.

[frank ridge]

why is the game so rubberbandy and unplayable???

[edgy imp]

They have no more money to optimize the game or pay the servers

[crystal bronze]

can you pls bring map rotation back

[noble lance]

Wait, why can I not change how many people I want to play with in each map?

[strange hatch]

I believe maps are tied to solo duo trio based on which map it is at the moment but if you read #sdfs-kitchen that will change.

[inner olive]

What are the odds monk drops for wipe

[loud silo]

@inner olive 0

[inner olive]

I think its a little higher than 0

0.001

[loud silo]

@inner olive it's not. There is absolutely 0 chance at a new class coming. Not even that .001.

[inner olive]

Why wouldn’t it be, theyve been talking about it

[loud silo]

Where?

You can cope and hope all you want, man. But there's an absolute 0 chance at it happening. They've been "talking about" many classes since the early days limited time play tests.

If they want to have ANY chance, any SEMBLANCE of a chance at the game not dying, they need to focus on fixing what we currently have, not adding even more bullshit that needs to be balanced back and forth 400 times.

[fervent anvil]

next class will prob come next full wipe

[inner olive]

Hoping it works like sorc, maybe one wheel for hands and one for legs, combine them for new moves.

Whoa whoa how is it cope and hope😂 bros dooming.
They delivered 3 very robust well made classes wdym

Uh you’re taking leaps dog. You’re still here, games still good

[inner olive]

I agree theres a decent chance it drops with or a few weeks after wipe like druid or sorc was it?

[livid onyx]

I get out too often for this to be my reality, it's a rat's world in the dark dungeons.

[loud silo]

@inner olive robust and well made? The bard that aoe bombed people to death, through different floors was robust and well made? How about when it was in literally every single comp because of its utility?

[fervent anvil]

prob not. new maps taken most of their dev time

[livid onyx]

Monk class is gonna slap, literally

[inner olive]

Bard too! 4 classes

[inner olive]

Hoping a bitchslap is on the menu

[loud silo]

How about druids literally ruining any fun for anyone else in solos? The amount of hatred and pure seethe that they brought? That was robust and well made?

[livid onyx]

Lemme get that cloth build monk putting hands on barbarians

[strange hatch]

Hopefully

[loud silo]

You're coping out of your mind to think any of the classes they've added were anything but harmful to the game as a whole.

[strange hatch]

If I start catching hands in dark and darker then im gonna be beefing with everyone

[loud silo]

They tried to rush content because they knew how garbage everything else was, and needed to try to find a way to keep people invested.

Meanwhile, the players ACTUALLY wanted some genuine balance. But nah, that takes too much brainpower. Instead just throw in a new class and watch as everyone not playing that class, hates it.

[ivory aurora]

cope and coper

[inner olive]

Its sad that IK this isnt ragebait and you’re a chronic doomer

[livid onyx]

I like the way you think

[livid onyx]

I mained druid as a rat class when it came out, I knew the damage was too high so I stuck with playing it like an uncatchable monster. I think they've done well to nerf the class down to heavily gear dependant for the most part combat wise.

[loud silo]

@inner olive "ragebait" "doomer" when the hell did zoomers forget what "trolling" is for one, and for two, why the fuck can't anyone see an opinion that's different from their own and not think "oh well clearly that's a troll/ragebait" like what kind of childish ass mindset do y'all even have?

[livid onyx]

I do hope they bring every class up to druid and sorcs new standard instead of just continually gutting them. Power creep is inevitable.

[inner olive]

It’s hardly an opinion. I said “anyone know when monk drops” and this guy launched a bleak ass tirade

[loud silo]

"everyone who disagrees with me is wrong or trolling" how god damn narcissist can these kids get

[livid onyx]

Ragebait used to be believable

[loud silo]

@inner olive you didn't ask "anyone know when Monk drops" don't quote something that wasn't said. Are you genuinely still in middle school?

[inner olive]

You don’t even know how good at ragebait you arent

[strange hatch]

Lets keep this respectful please

[loud silo]

It was a respectful question. If he's in middle school, he probably shouldn't be here.

[inner olive]

😘

[inner olive]

You want to be friends man? Genuinely

[livid onyx]

If anyone has a problem with the game, I just assume they've never cheesed the troll as cleric. 🧀

[inner olive]

Whats the sauce again?

[loud silo]

@inner olive nah, I don't associate with children. Enjoy the rest of your summer vacay

[inner olive]

Perfect I’m an adult. And the genuinely part was serious

[inner olive]

I don’t play cleric whats the cheese

[livid onyx]

-63% debuff duration

[fervent anvil]

🧀

[inner olive]

LOL awesome, passive perk and ability?

[livid onyx]

You are immune to trolls roar

[fervent anvil]

not immune. the timer on it just runs out before he charges. you still get hit by the roar bit tho. just not the attack after