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hardy bough
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

near jasper
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

sudden pasture
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What has this SDF done? Plz tell me, I dont know?

open sundial
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why are reandom modifiers gone again

wet kindle
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we only delete users messages when its instantly bannable. NSFW, kys messages and the likes. if someone's removing messages that they shouldn't let a TM know.

lapis valley
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BRUH THIS WIPE IS BUNS

coral agate
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PLEASE FUCKING BRING BACK SOLOS. The game actually doesn't even feel that different than before, I just can't 1v3 anymore. I'm tired boss. Please let me enjoy 1v1's again.

tall girder
random swan
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Going from the “testing” unique modifiers to no random modifiers is crazy work. 1hour between messages even crazier.

green beacon
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

visual bloom
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

last spoke
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<@&1019888848773328936> you guys said gen chat was spammable, now there is an hour cooldown? why you censoring people
maybe dont make bad patches and expect your community to like it

pseudo pelican
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

light burrow
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😭

raw torrent
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Best patch ever

rain inlet
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

spring escarp
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re s i g n

quiet lance
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tavern chat timmer has been fixed, please move over to that for spam

unreal obsidian
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can't claim rewards? solution?

regal flume
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🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

quiet lance
amber vigil
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From 50 to 10 minutes 💀 @quiet lance

mortal ginkgo
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We cant even make twitch drops work?

manic musk
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Does anyone know how to queue with people from your region? I select English but it keeps sticking me with people on the other side of the world. I cant see what region they are in before i accept the invite or the game starts. When I get in I cant move or just rubber band back to where i was.

EDIT: Have they seriously changed slow mode to 60 minutes per message?

quick locust
muted remnant
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Mods are all munt goblins

clear crow
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@eternal violet

dapper mortar
eternal violet
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@clear crow

olive holly
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but yo who are these paid actors that are bouncing on the meat trying to say the patch is good?

outer ledge
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You missed the jump part. You take way less DOT from "floor is lava" effects if you do that.

hushed carbon
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New Game -> Dungeon Stalkers

scarlet veldt
plain peak
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wtf up the no roles on stuff qtf goin g on

faint orbit
vague ermine
hidden cape
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Terr

gloomy knoll
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who came up with the idea of removing the roles on gear

valid sparrow
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who came up with the idea of removing the roles on gear

summer shoal
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Insane chat timers are making me feel like the <@&1019888848773328936> dont want their community to discuss the game. Why censor your passionate fans? Stop being weird.

vernal badger
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Sdf vision

glossy locust
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Is audio bugged rn?

spare solstice
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what's everyone's favorite way to play the game now that SDF removed 75% of the games content? mine is to open the game, look at the player count, laugh, then alt f4

fossil hare
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Stop crying and go play something else cry baby’s

fallen stone
median moss
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FIX THE DROPS YOU C L O W N @glad thunder

regal minnow
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@glad thunder Items are meaningless. Random feel is gone. Fights are 50/50 coin flips now in which you die in 1 millisecond. Nothings special anymore everyones boring and the same. Ranger is even more cancer (somehow). trios only (why). @glad thunder R E S I G N! Also before the fake shill accounts come in defending him i want you to know they are fake so dont try.

crisp elm
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will there be another wipe before s7?

strange thunder
ruby furnace
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twitch drops don't seem to be progressing

humble robin
gloomy gale
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this game is garbage now

sly adder
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gg

hollow lily
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You guys call yourself game devs when you drop updates like this? Get real, you're thieves.

indigo ledge
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What the heck happend to this game?????

bitter citrus
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hey remember when good guy dave said they respect their community then 2 hrs later put the chat on an hr timer because this company is too incompetent to even moderate a medium sized discord.

surreal vault
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Rangers are more broken than before fuck this game

warm condor
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guys cant we all just get along

warm garden
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i wish instead of trying to take off random modifiers they would do actually good changes like fix there massive terrible lag issue how you gonna have a game barely anybody plays and still have terrible servers

wraith swan
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i agree with this fruit guy lowkey

novel sparrow
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<@&1019888848773328936> having slowmode set to one message per hour sure feels like you don't actually want the community to discuss the game at all. Absolute 🃏 shit

bold shadow
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Good luck on your stream. Thanks for supporting Salute

junior zodiac
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sdf doesnt wipe

verbal quartz
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this game is dog water now so sad

wintry saddle
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DUDE when they made damg do a lot more too u they fuck the game up with that

wet gust
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GAME IS DEAD 3k IN DUNGEON?!!??

smoky tangle
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we are under 4k players on steam

grim pond
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Yikes

livid fern
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sdf just needs to restart back 6 months ago

terse stratus
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Wait I get one message AN HOUR?

wet pecan
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see you guys in a hour

naive fiber
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This is my one message per hour

cobalt spindle
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Why did the game just get so ass bro i played for 2 dungeoins and got off, the loot tables are fucking terrible that was the only fun thing

hexed bloom
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Drops no work 🥺

hexed burrow
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I'm blowing my load for an hour

plush saffron
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Terrible game now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

daring smelt
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Gg’s y’all it’s been fun but it’s time for me to uninstall and drop a review saying this company don’t give a shit about their community 🫡

novel arch
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What does gear look like rn I cba to get on it looks so awful

simple sand
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since they took this game behind the shed and shot it, what other games would you guys recommend

real atlas
frigid night
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1 hour delay???? i want discuss the new patch, but is hard say so bad he is and why when we have 1h delay msg, W VISION CENSOR player

median holly
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The longsword parry do seem to be a bit better, but some mob attacks are still phasing through the blade

lean coyote
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my boyfriend and I both got the founders addition 🙂 im very upset about it now how much food I could have gotten instead 🙂

elder hazel
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This game is awesome what’s with all the hate 🤪

stiff flame
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first time playing in a couple months, what happened to item rolls? are they only on certain items now?

short umbra
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It actually is a good update people just hating for nothing

deep jewel
ocean gale
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Whats the timer here? 10 minutes as well?

whole acorn
honest oriole
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Gonna use my 1 hr CD to say that Steam Reviews are a great way to have your voice heard

lapis quest
tired ferry
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yep im goin to write my first steam review right now

thorn owl
livid rain
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No reason to play. There's no grind game ends after 3-4hrs of HR

flat olive
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Why trios only and then remove automatic teams?

broken agate
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What is the kill volume they mention in announcements?

edgy salmon
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I’m just here to ruin my one chat per hour

gusty rain
high dagger
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It was fun to load into trios with randoms and runna dungeon, now you can’t even do that. Why do they keep taking everything fun out of the game

thorn bay
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how ta fack i have to play it 1000000vs1?

keen umbra
raven quarry
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anyone have a green inferno?

shy stone
severe coyote
burnt coral
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@gleaming patio i think they want us to use the Gathering hall to find people. cause random would team kill you right when the game would start

edgy scarab
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so i took a few months break, came back and now i cant play solos or duos and auto fill doesnt exist for the forced 3v3?

inner olive
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cool update, roll it back

magic pewter
# gusty rain What do you mean?

theres no random modifiers so every item will be the exact same in their respective rarity, so no reason to grind and make your perfect build, cause all you will need is to find the highest rarity item you want and add it to your build. there is no uniqueness or special way to build your character besides trying different armor or weapons

granite nest
runic anchor
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yoo this patch is insane it makes me wanna kill myself irl

storm cradle
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so we just erasing content instead of adding it now?

elder heart
proven phoenix
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I just can’t imagine the team working on the game and grinding for 2 years seeing it go down the drain for the ego of one guy with a vision

deft rampart
frail copper
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wish this was true but they werent using a vpn before when it wouldnt let them connect until they started using vpn

drowsy hare
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  • 1 hour
alpine lion
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  • 1 hour
clear hedge
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xd

fallow trench
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Me when I have to go watch an entire movie before I can come back and make another comment

mild quiver
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Yes lets remove gear stats again(almost killed the game last time), make it so everyone can break doors and have ttk be basically 0. Yes this is my medieval dungeoneering fantasy with mobs monsters and epic feeling loot, wait a sec this surely isn't a re-run of the roman colosseum with sdf as bootleg Ceasar. Surely not....

My man you need a better creativity or maybe you just aren't thinking cause this is what anyone and everyone woulda expected from these changes. Just make a balance system in terms of scaling via either class or stats for each que, its not that hard to differentiate between the ques (league does this with game modes sure bigger company but it can be done.) It'll take development time to make this newer system but its well worth it over killing your game and making yourself and your fans miserable because you can't deal with it.

grim marlin
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wait why is sdf just removing everything from the game lol there will not even be perks or skills next patch i swear

median imp
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People complain too much. Dark and Darker is one of the greatest medieval fantasy pvp games to ever come out. The servers are smooth and lobbies are full. Ironic how the playerbase are all 30+ yr old neckbeards who grew up spending $60 on games that never got updated.

We'll chuckle when all of the so called disgruntled streamers reinstall and come crawling back.

Fk streamers and their gear diff content farming. Fk complainers.

SDF is Thanos. Weeding out half of the unworthy pieces of garbage who do nothing but complain

Long live Ironmace. Long live SDF. Hold the line!

pallid flax
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So there’s still no solo or duo q right?

chilly bluff
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people are still crying over the game with ZERO constructive critisism. YOURE BAD AT THE GAME and your sense of game balancing is TRASH just watch your favorite streamer play the game and log in and play stop crying

thorny stirrup
wise geyser
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UPDATE SUCKS AINT NO LOOT WTF

pseudo lintel
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im afriad for the future of this game

oak basin
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are the drops bugged

spare birch
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Hopped on after a month, played one game, hopped off lol. Same shit different day

outer dagger
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Thanos eh...?
"What did it cost?"
"Everything"

dry light
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Fuck this game

violet burrow
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So glad there's no reason for me to grind anymore 😄

thick notch
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Yo hr boss drop blues, no red. Lol

clear hedge
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5minutos delay HAHAHAHAHAHA

south saffron
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why I cant redeem my rewards of hr?

autumn crow
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i miss dark and darker already

tacit valve
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99.99% commends ale banned xD what a comunnist country, HOLD THE UNINSTAL

mild dove
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so many people are typing and just deleting there chat because they know its over lmao

boreal brook
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solo que is no more?

sudden heron
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might as well go play dungeon borne at this point lmao

main lintel
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I will give massive props for removing gear diff... it was the only way forward... beyond that change... everything else is stupid

idle sun
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"What is IRONMACE all about?
Our philosophy is 'Dream, Justice, Love'. We have big dreams for this game, and the response from our community was absolutely incredible! We intend to pour our hearts and souls into doing this game justice, and we love doing it!"

A direct quote from a post I'm sure gave us all hope that you would indeed do this game justice. Sadly, when you make changes as drastic as this, which PvP and PvE'rs collectively disagree upon, you can only hope that what is left in the ashes of the flames you've started is something salvagable. Good luck.

median imp
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Salty players mad cause the game is not how they want it to be atm. SDF must be doing something right if yall are complaining more then gaming they are over 100+ games
on the market AND YALL CHOOSE TO BE MAD HERE LMAO

nimble ledge
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If yall love what dark and darker was. Please uninstall the game. We must protest.

barren cove
pastel garden
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so I join a game and I am killed because of my race. So sick of this racist game

wet barn
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One guy don't count

high berry
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do purples and blues only drop in hr now? they nurfed the common loot so hard. it feels like adventure mode loot status.

cursive anchor
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They are censoring our messages now LOL

scenic echo
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so whats the difference btw white and green gear, i mean same rolls, the only different thing i see is the colour

radiant notch
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Bro purple gear means absolutely nothing

coarse portal
vernal arch
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This game is so sad. This is the worst update. It's absolutely boring, the no random modifiers was the dumbest decision ever made. No trios and having to figure out you have to hit Y. this is absolutely terrible sdf. I loved this game and you destroyed it. ggs

mild dove
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they reduced the time you can chat in this channel becuase of the spammers lmao. well im going to uninstall and leave the discord. Is aynone else sad to see it go?

mellow igloo
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bro you look at all the videos from the people who bring eyes to this game they are all shitting on this update like ive heard of devs favoring content creators and devs favoring the community but not listening to either is a crazy concept no?

hidden cloak
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im sooooo surprised that barb is one shotting plate fighters with a chest shot. who coudlve seen this coming?

velvet kayak
stray yacht
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They won't be able to delete shit once the game turns into a ghost town

sudden heron
sturdy obsidian
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how much crack a night do you think sdf puts away?

lapis cape
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This is just a battle royale at this point

velvet cypress
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.

subtle badger
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they owe me at least my mone yback cus its not what i paid for, be fr.

fast socket
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Next wipe is the real rug pull water map gonna be dead like ice caves after a week

clear arrow
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No wonder nexon fired these guys, they probably had this game waiting to be developed by someone competent before they stole and ruined it 😭 (not a nexon supporter)

nimble ledge
crimson vessel
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.

zenith summit
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dont hate me but i actuallykinda like dark and darker

pastel garden
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This patch may feel a little extreme but it's the most balanced the game has ever been gearwise and it will be toned down in a future patch. enjoy gear parity whilst you can

teal stirrup
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Iron mace really wiped our gear and said here's some bandages and potions

steel juniper
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WHY CANT I CONNECT TO SERVER

radiant notch
coarse portal
clever locust
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Please make it possible to voip through evil eye PLEASE @zinc sparrow

mild dove
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Good bye. I hope to see you all in the dungeon again some day.

dusk meteor
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idk how downs this company can be. its one thing to remove solos and duos (which was arguably the most mentally challenged move yet) but to remove match making is absolute brain rot

hardy dawn
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why is the gear so trash

main lintel
slim tulip
velvet kayak
clear arrow
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450000 people joined this discord, 4K in game. Almost as much as the clouwn emojis on the patch note. Wipe successful, playerbase is gone.

MORE PEOPLE IN THIS DISCORD THEN THE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS DISCORD. 4k players in game on wipe 😭

heady hamlet
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this parch is shit

heavy idol
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@glad thunder step down from your position

mellow igloo
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from all this outstanding feedback from the community cant wait to see if they double down like the backward swamp cretins these devs are

round thicket
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<@&1019888848773328936> got to love the fact that u want to duo that you get 3v2 all game and now 90% of the characters roster is now just bows cause now there more broken then ever range meta all the way guys

rapid lava
quaint raptor
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@glad thunder alleviate yourself from lead developer duties

fast socket
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Dark and darker was a pump and dump hope nexon takes all the money back and sdf rots in his little man cave

autumn crow
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DO THEY EVEN READ THE MASSAGES AND TRY LTO UNDERSTAND?

sonic crest
spring root
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Fuck SDF Fuck Graysun and Fuck IronMace

quiet lance
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We aren’t even IM employees

oblique hamlet
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Pls fix game

hasty holly
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bro this game has had some bad updates but this takes the cake fr

coarse portal
whole stag
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nexon, reopen the case pls

sturdy agate
velvet delta
nova bronze
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THEY TEMP CHAT-BAN YOU IF YOU SAY @sdf SHOULD QUIT (r357gn, THEY CENSORED THE WORD HAHAHA)

modern needle
#

Dark and Darker: Descending Into Its Deepest Darkness Yet

I never thought I’d be writing this.

Once, Dark and Darker was a beacon for gamers hungry for something bold. Its brutal dungeons, thrilling escapes, and intoxicating loot hunts drew in thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was an experience. Sneaking past monsters, outsmarting enemies, barely escaping with your life—it created unforgettable moments.

But now? Now it feels like we’re witnessing a slow, painful death.

The spark is gone. The lobbies once full of energy are quiet. The removal of solo and duo queues—core elements of the experience—has shattered the game for many. Trio-only lobbies were a blow to those who valued flexibility. Streamers have walked away, some pointing blame at the lead developer.

The gear system, once full of promise, has been gutted. Unique builds and creative strategies have been replaced by rigid metas. What once made adventurers feel different now feels the same.

Even worse are the broken promises. Features like quivers, new maps, and class variety were teased, only to vanish. The Discord server—once vibrant—is now a battlefield. Chants demanding leadership change echo throughout the community. A copy-and-paste revolt is underway, driven by a desperate player base.

All of this under the shadow of Ironmace’s recent legal loss. Financial strain, damaged reputation, and fading faith paint a grim picture. With sales dropping and hope running out, it’s hard to imagine a comeback.

This game meant something. It was something. But unless someone steps in to right the course, we may be watching the end.

It’s been a wild ride, but maybe it’s time to accept the truth: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name… not as a game, but as a memory, lost in the shadows.

If SDF is unwilling to part with the games direction, unfortunately I feel I must.

primal fiber
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@zinc sparrow Since random modifiers are gone-why is the Goldsmith still in the game?

mellow igloo
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can everyone who is currently complaining about the update go negative review the game on steam to save our future peers from the tragedy we have faced

grim wasp
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This game is legitimately dead. It took this long for me to stop holding the line. GGs, boys.

coral pulsar
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@glad thunder u should be fired

sturdy obsidian
tardy mural
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100 - 0'd by a single attack
2 shot by crossbows
HARHARHAR

heavy idol
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@glad thunder step down from your position

lavish kelp
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This SDF pack is gonna smack so hard tonight

mighty whale
# whole acorn If spam stays in the tavern instead of here, we will fix it 🙂

I waited a whole damn hour to send this

This shit sucks. so heres a mince recipe
beef mince, add to a pan, cook till brown, add 120ml beef stock, 10-20g tomato puree and taco seasoning (I like to buy it premade cause its pretty cheap but you can also make it yourself from scratch), serve with rice preferably cooked in beef stock (or vegetable stock if you want), grated cheese and guacamole. Amazing home made burrito bowl. I also like to add siracha but again thats a personal choice depends if you like spice or not

earnest turret
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am i the only one who likes this patch?

simple arrow
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Can we not claim our HR rewards for S6 yet?

lyric lava
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bring back matchmaking

heavy cypress
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What's the timer on this chat lemme see this ridiculous way of trying to silence everyone

spice compass
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FAkE NEWS!!! Ironmace has been bought out by Microsoft

patent hemlock
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sdf r e s i g n

ripe hare
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@glad thunder bruh

hushed swallow
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looooock iinnn

stiff ember
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how the fuck am i supposed to play solo now

late ravine
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Was there like... any consensus on removing random matchmaking after removing solos and duos? I find it really hard to believe that multiple people thought that was a good idea.

whole stag
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@blissful dirge confiscate @glad thunder's crackpipe pls, he is losing it!

dusk meteor
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dude im so mad! I frickin loved this game... it was so much fun, everything I was looking for in a game and its honestly terrible now... crossbows over tuned, 3v1 all the time unless you pair with randos or somehow have butt buddies (but who has those, none of my friends like these types of games)...
I dont understand the vision... help me understand

opaque quartz
fair lintel
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SDF scammed us, i wanted and bought solo extraction game but the devs are trash

shrewd rock
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this is the worst patch i have ever seen....

vast shoal
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ironmace def tryna kill the game since they r still getting sued

scenic echo
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BRING BACK SOLO/DUO, BRING BACK RANDOM MOD

plucky peak
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You are a bunch of COWARDS setting the SPAM ALLOWED channel to a ONE HOUR TIMER

frosty knot
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Use your abillity to leave a review to express your opinion of the game. Steam reviews cannot be deleted.

next atlas
# stiff ember how the fuck am i supposed to play solo now

I know right no solo queue for even high roller is crazy! Legit nothing I can do now, everygame is just crazy 1v3's. I feel the meta is so different too, so many playstyles I liked in solo cant be used in 3v3's 😦 @stiff ember @fair lintel I also tried to use the "shake someones hand" thing to join their team and they literally just came running at me to kill me, I even used my mic

median anvil
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they can slow mode timer everyone for hours at a time, the comments aren't going to stop. this is funny

mellow igloo
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@zinc sparrow @glad thunder @blissful dirge like you shouldve just rug pulled us when the game was at its peak it honestly wouldve been a better outcome

clear arrow
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report the game on steam, they lost the court case for IP theft to nexon and are scamming us on a “early release” game. Report and get it unlisted.

sturdy agate
sullen flower
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Power tripping mods timer check

severe grotto
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I like this update

topaz socket
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Am I tripping or are there no duos or trios now?

last spoke
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crazy how they be censoring chat now

lyric lava
languid sinew
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As a solo player, this is the worst the game has ever felt. What a shame. Goodbye Dark and Darker

floral pawn
modern needle
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

south copper
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so many drama queens in here

random swan
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So loot is worthless therefore gold is worthless therefore the end game is worthless? What is the point? 30% of your player base plays 3v3 so it’s a good idea to force everyone into this queue? We went from holding the line to holding a 1H timer on the games general chat? What is the point besides intentionally sabotaging your game for the exit strategy. Who is holding the bag?

glass viper
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3.5k in dungeon after a wipe and drops on... wow

sullen vector
fair lintel
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why even sell a game to people if it wasnt what you invisioned? they actually scammed us for years

elfin basin
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they need to give more drops and reward tokens to revive the game tbh

solid saddle
quasi abyss
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I tried liking the new patch, they actually ruined the game ngl. Ggz until they revert see yall in a month

strange coral
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Damn fellas just play the game how it is or don’t lmao the crying is unreal

glass stratus
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Someone should steal the game files and make it called "poorly lit and more poorly lit", then actually put effort into developing the game. I feel like the community still exists that would play it

inner marsh
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GG y’all 🫡

royal coyote
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cheat and cheater is back !

terse orbit
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Oh how the mighty have fallen, I feel so sorry for anyone holding up this burning building of a game. GGs

next atlas
unreal obsidian
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Sooo i have to go in solo or come to discord to find a random team when my friends aren't on? ... and HR, i'll only play when my friends are on.. Got it.. uninstall

native dune
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Actually rough asf out there in the dungeons smh

random yarrow
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🇸 🇩 🇫 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

unique arch
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this game is turning into medieval pubg mobile

vernal arch
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absolutely terrible decision to nerf common lobby loot, get rid of being able to load in with friends and HOPE the barb you see charging at you wants to group up with you. Absolutely terrible update. No random modifiers and a nerfed loot table makes the game boring. We didnt want this update and you forced it on us. this will surely kill the game

exotic jolt
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pathetic with no rolls xd

clear hedge
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6k player KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK gj everyone

burnt moon
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A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

hasty holly
south copper
#

how do you group up in game ? i havent seen it in the keybinds

coarse portal
mellow igloo
#

<@&1019888848773328936> can you turn the timer down its a fucking general chat like if they can pull some fucking shit ideas out of @glad thunder crack pipe we should atleast be able to talk about them

neon agate
#

Bro I need to get some of SDF's drug

wide reef
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

fair lintel
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

reef galleon
#

here’s a idea
-add solos back
-lessen damage on all bows
-put one random multi on each gear peice like this
-common 0
-uncommon 1-2 percent
- rare 2-4 percent
-epic 4-6 percent
-legendary 6-8 percent
- unique 8-10 percent
-lower barb weapon damage or put the health back to how it was
-give a random stat as damage you do to pve

topaz socket
#

Wait so you can be in teams? if you join a party in the lobby???? But if I solo queue I'm stuck in solos

last spoke
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

next atlas
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

stuck crystal
#

Anyone have "Failed to connect" error? I tried everything, restarting, reinstalling, verifying file integrity

modern needle
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

late ravine
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

upbeat echo
#

Yo I might be late to this but trying to get back into dark and darker but I bought the game on chaf games and havent played since release, saying migration has ended? There a way around this if anyone knows?

quiet lance
#

I can lower this chat timer once the spam dies down here

shadow raft
#

NotLikeThis, he has a great vid

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

mellow igloo
gray wolf
#

We do we get to claim the high rollers cosmetics?

reef galleon
#

here’s a idea
-add solos back
-lessen damage on all bows
-put one random multi on each gear peice like this
-common 0
-uncommon 1-2 percent
- rare 2-4 percent
-epic 4-6 percent
-legendary 6-8 percent
- unique 8-10 percent
-lower barb weapon damage or put the health back to how it was
-give a random stat as damage you do to pve

hexed maple
#

I cant see stats of item IG its normal or im buged ?

uncut bobcat
#

havent played in a long time, first time back and im plagued with preformance issues. any time i get in the same moduel as anybody else my game goes to like 10 frames

topaz socket
#

Why did they kill the game for solo players???

vale dew
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

iron warren
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

indigo ledge
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

exotic crypt
bitter citrus
south copper
#

i agree the spamming is an emotional outburst and cringe. i was wondering, how do i add people to a party in match? i didnt see it in keybinds

solid cedar
#

🤸
🦼 🏌️

jolly mango
#

y

thin forge
#

Fucking moronic devs lol I have never seen a wipe so dead. So dead that it feels like the game was stolen KEKW

safe prawn
#

why

uncut stump
#

Ladies and gentlemen, players and critics alike... let’s be honest with each other.
What we are witnessing is not just a game struggling to find balance. It’s a community unraveling. Not because of patches or balancing issues, but because we’ve stopped aiming higher... and started turning on each other.
The general chat, once a place of strategy, camaraderie, and shared passion, has become a graveyard of complaints, finger-pointing, and empty noise. We don't talk with each other anymore, we talk at each other. We've traded insight for outrage, and wonder for bitterness.
Everyone wants someone to blame. The devs. The player base. The meta. the monotization, etc. But no one wants to take responsibility for being part of the solution.
Let me be clear: complaining is not feedback.
Blame is not a strategy.
And rage is not leadership.
You don’t need to be a developer to offer value. You don’t need a platform to lead. You need perspective, clarity, and the courage to speak truth, even when it’s uncomfortable.
This community had the potential to be something legendary. But legends aren’t built on salt and sarcasm. They’re built on vision, on players willing to do more than just play. Players willing to build.
So I ask everyone here: Are we here to destroy this game with our own cynicism.. or fight for the version we know it can be?
Because if we keep shadowboxing each other in the dark…
There won't be anything left to come back to.

grizzled thorn
#

Fuck this game bro. We need better game than this one with better devs.

tired ferry
#

CHICKEN JOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mortal ginkgo
upbeat echo
#

Does anyone know how to proceed with a chaf games migration, apparently its ended and theres no support on their website anymore lmao, will I just have to buy the game again?

vale dew
#

4,280
players right now

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

stiff ember
#

easily they can nerf high roller mobs, bring back solo/duo/trios

sullen flower
#

Numbers are looking nice and healthy, player count BUSTLING from ~3K. Hold the L(ine)!!!

ocean gale
#

Oh man! It's the first message I can type for the next HOUR... hopefully I don't waste it!. Ah shit this joke doesn't work anymore they changed it smdh

indigo ledge
#

I will blaim, cause they ruined their own game, i loved this game. NOW the game is piece of scrap, i will play mindseye to get better experience. ( for low IQ humans, it was a joke)

Just fuck this game now. I regret that I ever put money into this game 🚽 🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽

candid gate
#

Does anybody else like getting one tap headshot by nightmare crossbowman with no audio queu? Anybody? $BrianDedDevs

granite thicket
#

Has the Season Ended?
Why haven't I received the HighRoller Rank rewards?

turbid egret
tropic sable
#

Wipe hype died so fast

novel sparrow
#

Yeah its weird because I could've sworn the game is from South Korea, but I must've confused that with North

rustic socket
#

devs this is horrible. stop letting sdf ruin this game and speak up. this patch will 100% kill the game. patch dropped and theres 5k people on. your playerbase is gone.

echo sage
#

Seeing the Great Schism Part 2 for this community is crazy. a full hour slowdown time is ridiculous

lapis harbor
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

dusty mortar
#

The game is so bad now

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

near swallow
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

forest bramble
#

Good luck if you are solo going to any boss btw

rocky bramble
#

Still not sure how SDF looked at this on paper and went, yeah, this is it.

vale briar
#

stupid nerf of sorcener and druid. don't touch the game if you don't know what you do

main bison
#

bro sorc is so bad rn lol

urban lintel
#

this games dog now

stuck lion
#

This game doo doo.

indigo ledge
#

@rancid lichen @zinc sparrow
If you two know the developer in person or on the phone.
Tell them they've fucked this up.

They made a game that was a 9/10 into a 0/10 in one fell swoop thinking it was all a brilliant idea.

But it wasn't, you killed the game and you'll probably never get it back.

golden yacht
#

this is such a stupid ass way to play the game lmfao

sullen flower
#

Man I wish Nexon won

gray verge
#

CLearly Our voices are being suppressed. We must Not give in to this censorship! see u in an hr

fresh pelican
#

ok, I change my mind, I'm already bored

fathom tapir
#

game is cooked

candid gate
#

@glad thunder Youre cooked man and your game is cooked. Noone here is happy, and you clearly cant solve it. Hand the game to someone else before you burn it to the ground.

worn nova
#

No fucking way the arena rating system carried over, so glad i cant queue with my premade 3 stack 11!!!1!!!1!

primal fiber
prisma lava
#

Is chat cooldown an hour bro?

mild quiver
mellow igloo
#

#NexonSaveUs

solemn tusk
#

Does SDF not get panic attacks going into work everyday, knowing full well that his "vision" is killing the game we all love? Knowing his coworkers don't respect him for his horrible decision making and driving their job security off a cliff? How the fuck does this dude sleep at night knowing he's single handedly ruining dozens of employees livelihood, and killed thousands of supporters love of this game?

lone lagoon
#

when do statics spawn now

sinful echo
#

love when they add things and dont think it through like quick draw firing out of the teamup thing

heavy cypress
#

Man I'd say pull the plug on the life support for the game but SDF already old yeller-ed it

wind pollen
#

i cant lie , getting one shoted by a skeleton axe is something

sullen seal
#

how do you form a party in the dungeon?

turbid egret
#

Lowkey even tarkov is better and its all cheaters playing it like dark and darker is so crap like bro just leave the game as it is and bring solos and duos and trios

worn ridge
#

lol

forest bramble
burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

shadow raft
tardy dirge
#

dont worry ill fix the game

lavish kelp
#

thanks my king

spark skiff
#

gaba goo

bitter citrus
#

oh snap the king is here

sullen flower
#

1 movement speed epic lantern BIS AF

mystic pivot
#

Currently, I believe there are a lot of players who don't want to go into dungeons anymore.

(Loot value balance) and (gear strength gap) are connected. If some equipment is very good, it's value as loot will also be very high. This is why we are willing to enter dungeons, for reward and value. Players want to get emotional and economic value out of the game, such as good equipment, kills, a good fight, or the fun of searching for treasure.

However, it is clear that this change has caused many players to be reluctant to enter dungeons, as the current value of dungeon gear is very low for players from last season. Just as society has seen a lot of people not wanting to work because of the low returns, people will opt out of the environment. People will opt out of the environment and go elsewhere, such as playing other games.

indigo ledge
#

@glad thunder Thanks for ruining good game.

granite copper
#

the gear drops are so dookie now my lord

oblique fossil
dusty mortar
#

No loot no fun no health wtf this game is genuinely garbage

thorn bay
#

im gonna find sdf on the street soon guys chill

subtle heart
#

🥀

merry quest
#

is the twitch drops not working for anyone else

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

crimson vessel
odd lance
#

🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫 ➡️ 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇮 🇬 🇳

jovial marten
#

i love this dove-hawk game. great job dev

forest bramble
sullen flower
#

This is the most Korean and Chinese players I’ve seen criticize the game in here or tavern. Sdf is uniting the world

visual gale
#

BIGGEST RUG PULL

shadow raft
tired ferry
#

CHICKEN JOCKEY!!!

golden yacht
#

crazy how all of the sdf worshippers have been proven wrong now

azure vortex
#

🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

wraith wigeon
#

ngl arena is fun rn

fallen salmon
#

🎯 🇸 🇩 🇫🤮 🇭 🇦 🇸 🤮 🇦 🤏 🇸 🇲 🇦 🇱 🇱 🤏 🅱️ 🇷 🇦 🇮 🇳 🧠

main plume
#

add pregnant goblins and the game will be fixed

granite copper
sweet wraith
#

guys i havent played in forever, is the game fun now, or is it horribly unbalanced again

primal fiber
shut mural
#

🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

near swallow
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

median moss
#

So yall reset triumph levels but DIDNT GIVE US THE SHARDS???

sudden mural
#

haha adventure mode main means pvp changes are irrelevant

lyric creek
rigid elk
subtle badger
#

Gg, the game can close now, its dead, new patch, no new content, only devolving the game and take out the remaining good thing about the game,
Have fun with looting in normal and getting the gray treasures and legendary 6 knowledge leather Chausses, but this is ass, pls sdf AT LEAST put back again the latest patch, cus this is abnormally shit, i mean you did it few times already, but you have to get fired or smth.
Or else, im fine if you giving my money back for my cosmetic transition and the legendary pack transition, because its not that game that i used to pay..
Gg, have fun for those who like this patch, im out until game get fixed.

toxic socket
#

dungeon stalkers is shit too skimpy and bad gameplay dad is wayyy better

cosmic swan
#

So do we all agree that SDF have to go now?

lethal crag
#

file for bankruptcy so you don't have to pay the 5.9m

sullen flower
#

5 mins go

lilac ether
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

turbid egret
#

if u play pve ur shit

limber badge
#

KEKW KEKW KEKW Y4mi actively talking shit about the game with sdf in chat LMFAO KEKW KEKW KEKW

carmine quarry
#

Oof this update

open sundial
#

how is it even possible to fuck up this much

low kelp
#

@glad thunder r e s i g n

plucky peak
#

Leave a negative steam review on the way out everyone!!!

solar crescent
#

this update is so ass

safe yoke
#

too all the people out there who might feel the same , I loved you dark and darker but I didn’t even bother booting up the game this patch I just knew it was going to be bad , thanks for the memories there is truly no hope for this game . Your number one Cleric Main - DiddUPray2Day

solid spoke
#

is there still gem slotting?

primal fiber
#

Official SDF Announcement – June 25, 2025

We’ve heard your concerns, and we want to assure you: we are ignoring them.

The Truth Behind the Chaos – Brainworm Confirmed

After months of erratic decision-making, it’s official: SDF, our lead developer, has brainworm. This condition makes terrible ideas feel like brilliant ones. Recent symptoms include:
• Removing Solos and Duos:
SDF called these beloved modes “a crutch for antisocial players.” Now, everyone is forced into squads with random teammates who will likely kill you faster than the enemies.
• Deleting Stat Rolls:
All gear now has static stats, making common loot as strong as legendary items. As a result, the Goldsmith, designed to use raid gems to enhance gear, is now utterly useless.
• Rollback to Patch 69:
Against all advice, SDF reinstated the infamous Patch 69, a disaster that earned the game its Mostly Negative Steam reviews. He insists this patch was “ahead of its time.”

New Features and Non-Features
• Daily Progression Resets:
Characters and loot now reset every 24 hours. According to SDF: “This is the ultimate balance.”
• Content Tease Cycle:
• The Nightmare Castle Raid will be live for 8 hours before vanishing forever.
• Merchants have been replaced with “Pray for Loot” circles where you hope for items to magically appear.

What This Means for You
• All bug reports now generate the automated response: “Skill Issue. L + Cope.”
• In his final act of sabotage, SDF deleted the game’s trailer, ensuring no new players will ever find the game.

Thank you for enduring another brainworm-fueled day at Ironmace.

Yours in misery,
The Ironmace Team

main plume
#

stop complaining, yall just need to get good. This update is peak.

hard mulch
#

imagine a McDonalds employee quits his job and decides to make his own burger shop and even though it initally only has 1 burger it becomes on of the most celebrated burger spots in the past decade and eventually they add a few more menu items that people enjoy. but then imagine you go there one day and order your usual and the owner says. actually we don't have that anymore in fact we only have one burger right now and it only has onions. and when you ask why. when he sees the data that at least 66% of his customers aren't in favor of this change, the owner says " because thats how i like it, this is my vision of a good burger, here lets try my vision together!

limber lark
#

Hell yeah stoked to hop in the dungeon

half comet
#

anyone playing arena?

subtle badger
odd moss
#

this is the best update yet

forest bramble
#

It's fun as a solo I have to 3rd party team fights all the time and then get killed by the good player its fun

final niche
#

Here's what's gonna happen:
Patch #88: rollback to patch 86
Patch #89: rollback to patch 69
Patch #90: rollback to patch 87
Patch #91: Barb's Base Strength +5

quaint tide
#

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow yall gonna write a memoir on how to kill a game in less than 60 days? ass hats

jovial marten
#

nah, i don't want rollback. this patch is great

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

urban owl
naive wolf
#

are the drops not working for anyone else

whole kraken
#

i honestly think if they just announced what content they do have planned for pt7 alongside this patch, it wouldn’t be so poorly received. or it would drive people away now. but because the patch is like a setup patch for next wipe and it feels like shit, and we have nothing to feel hopeful for or look forward to, people are coming for heads.

limber badge
#

"You just want to play Valorant?"
--Three of the more prominent DaD streamers 💀

autumn bronze
#

GOODNIGHT

void kestrel
solid spoke
#

can you still gem slot whoever answers gets 1 million dollarsBallinRanger

mental oyster
#

is pve gone too?\

fickle citrus
#

The manual matchmaking is unreal

deep jewel
#

GUYS WE MUST STICK TOGETHER AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME DONT LOG IN DONT UP THE PLAYERCOUNT LET THIS SHIT CRUMBLE UNTIL THEY STOP FUCKING US ANG GIVE US WHAT WE WANT INSTEAD OF THESE GAME RUINING UPDATES

narrow spindle
#

how do u even get in a team anymore?

final niche
#

sdf sent us a 'survey' but turns out they couldn't care less 🙄

wintry sun
#

SaluteTinFoil 🏴‍☠️
**Gather round the lantern, lads, and pinch yer tongues, for what I whisper now is pure nightmare. ** — There was a crew called IronMace, bold as thunder, who hauled a cavern of gold aboard their frigate and drank till the moon looked drunk herself. Yet their captain, Salazar Doom-Fathom—S.D.F.—stood at the helm with eyes like empty graves. Vision had wormed into his skull.

Past midnight he spun the wheel and smashed our proud ship against reef-fangs once, twice; planks screamed, men bawled. “Gold is safe where no lungs can breathe,” he hissed. We rushed him—cutlasses, ropes, fists—but his pistol spat fire, and courage curdled. Water gushed through ruptured oak; treasure chests cracked, spilling coins that clinked like wicked laughter.

Still Doom-Fathom cackled, steering for the sharpest rocks. The third collision split the keel, snapping the mast like a matchstick. Longboats shattered; comrades vanished beneath black froth; glittering riches spiraled downward, a mockery of fortune. As the sea swallowed captain, crew, and coin alike, his final howl echoed: “Mine forever!”

Remember the name IronMace, cursed as barnacles on these boards forever. Mark the moral, mates: gold may dazzle, but madness weighs heavier. Keep your wits or share IronMace’s tomb beneath the waves.

dapper mortar
#

how is arena?

subtle heart
#

🥀

wraith wigeon
#

named arena

flat cave
#

are the drops not working for anyone else? I'm conncted and not getting them

tired ferry
#

the only kinda cool thing is that if you wanna play as a rat its kinda easy now

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

calm copper
#

RIP WIZARDS

pseudo hollow
#

i'm still rather new to the game how do i take less damage from the ghost king scream? he basically oneshots me

mystic pivot
# sudden mural haha adventure mode main means pvp changes are irrelevant

First of all, I have no intention of disrespecting any PVE or PVP players.

However, from the perspective of gameplay alone, the PVE content of this game is fixed. After you have mastered the methods of dealing with each monster, will you choose to enter the HR mode to practice against more powerful monsters or continue to be a monster-killing machine in the PVE mode?

Another question is, will you look for treasures or open boxes to seek equipment in the PVE mode? If so, why are you unwilling to enter the HR mode to challenge more powerful monsters and seek more valuable loot? Or is it that for you, PVE mode is fun as long as you kill monsters? I believe that some people will feel fun from killing monsters and can vent their emotions.

But if the PVE content is over (novice stage), won’t entering the HR mode to challenge more powerful monsters have more sense of accomplishment?

My personal understanding of the game is that the value of gold coins is linked to the value of equipment. If the value of equipment decreases, people will think that the value of gold coins has decreased, and will stop getting more when they feel that it is enough, because at that time the gold coins will become worthless.

I don't know whether the fun of PVE players is to explore the game content or to find loot (in a relatively safe situation). But I think the changes to the equipment in the game will also affect PVE players, but the impact is not significant.

toxic socket
#

why is everyone so hostile, i keep trying to team with ppl and they immediately shoot me

barren pollen
#

5 minute cooldown to stop criticism is crazy

frigid peak
#

Yall like the new damage?

solar crescent
#

hell no

solid saddle
fathom tapir
#

My frocking vision 🥀💔

tribal comet
#

what do we do with gems now?

green beacon
#

what the fk is this poop on the ceiling

nocturne arch
#

I like being a solo and only being able to play trio. I like how all gear is the exact same now and there’s no such thing is a good roll. I like how I instantly get two shot because of the new health. I like the devs not responding and keeping everyone in the dark. I when the devs don’t listen to their community and actively try to nuke their own game! I like it guys!

zinc ridge
#

so are they trying to lose money? why not listen to what makes your game good?

boreal flame
#

It's already been proven a week ago these youtubers collaberated together to attack ironmace and spread fake news and info around the game. NotLikethem has sent their toxic troll base here to divide and sew division in the community

proper tusk
#

Am I alone in feeling like loot overall has had a DRASTIC reduction in quality? I am finding grey and white in 9/10 situations. I'm sure this has to do with all the uh... rebalancing... but it is frustrating

subtle heart
#

🥀

void kestrel
pastel oak
#

Official SDF Announcement – June 25, 2025

We’ve heard your concerns, and we want to assure you: we are ignoring them.

The Truth Behind the Chaos – Brainworm Confirmed

After months of erratic decision-making, it’s official: SDF, our lead developer, has brainworm. This condition makes terrible ideas feel like brilliant ones. Recent symptoms include:
• Removing Solos and Duos:
SDF called these beloved modes “a crutch for antisocial players.” Now, everyone is forced into squads with random teammates who will likely kill you faster than the enemies.
• Deleting Stat Rolls:
All gear now has static stats, making common loot as strong as legendary items. As a result, the Goldsmith, designed to use raid gems to enhance gear, is now utterly useless.
• Rollback to Patch 69:
Against all advice, SDF reinstated the infamous Patch 69, a disaster that earned the game its Mostly Negative Steam reviews. He insists this patch was “ahead of its time.”

New Features and Non-Features
• Daily Progression Resets:
Characters and loot now reset every 24 hours. According to SDF: “This is the ultimate balance.”
• Content Tease Cycle:
• The Nightmare Castle Raid will be live for 8 hours before vanishing forever.
• Merchants have been replaced with “Pray for Loot” circles where you hope for items to magically appear.

What This Means for You
• All bug reports now generate the automated response: “Skill Issue. L + Cope.”
• In his final act of sabotage, SDF deleted the game’s trailer, ensuring no new players will ever find the game.

Thank you for enduring another brainworm-fueled day at Ironmace.

Yours in misery,
The Ironmace Team

earnest blade
#

Is slowmode 10 minutes here too?

main plume
still turtle
#

game dc constantly the past few days for anyone else? still in game but cant control char

sleek spade
#

how do u win

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

wind prawn
#

Actually ruined the freaking game

severe coyote
#

I gotta say, well done sdf. I wish I could've brainstormed the genius idea of removing the "loot" from the loot extraction game. What a W approach that suggest the longevity of an exciting gameplay loop that keeps people coming back.

gritty barn
#

sooooooo. were full legendary and deleted the entirely of oce as duo. now what?? sdf we're bored.

sudden mural
# mystic pivot First of all, I have no intention of disrespecting any PVE or PVP players. Howe...

Honestly? I'm here for hot monster fighting action in an immersive setting/environment. PvP disinterests me, because of how clunky it is. Conqueror's blade provides better hack and slash. Fighting games ala street fighter or blazblue provide better skillful melee. Classic fps or battle royales are more thrilling loot kill escape experiences. Does it get repetitive? Sure, but it's relaxing and blows off stress.

warm sun
#

hey when will i get rewards from the previous season?

cold orchid
#

hello

wind pollen
#

I’m having so much fun getting one shoted by barbs and kits having 0 value. I love this vision. Range weapons are so strong

cobalt hedge
#

🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

calm copper
#

RIPPPPP WIZARDDDDD

deep jewel
#

we all have to come together and fix the game together by torching sdf's 🏡

bitter citrus
coarse portal
#

Removing random modifiers makes playing the game pointless. No point in looting gear means nothing now. Pvp? For what? There's no reward if gear means nothing. Pve? For what to get the same items you find laying around. Extract with all the gear you found? For what it's pointless. Its just a battleroyal now. This isn't a dungeon crawling extraction game anymore at all

sullen flower
#

Fortnite and Fortniter

mystic coral
frank dagger
#

we got to enjoy the game nexon brought to us and now it’s over the game is finally gonna die

waxen tide
#

Guys yall are hating, this lowkey might be top3 patches. Loot feels great, gear gap is fixed, desync is gone. Ranged damage is ontop again, OP classes are nerfed. SDF lowkey cooked and everyone here is coping...

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

forest linden
somber shell
#

@forest linden Interesting name lmfao.

fading elk
#

"lets buff damage and get rid of hp" WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME

main plume
#

Everyone crying cause the game is skill based now?

sturdy fable
#

sdf doesn’t want to listen to the community or share his vision with everyone, he wants to impose his bland version of the game.

deep jewel
#

anyone know sdf's real name?

lapis quest
severe coyote
#

I gotta say, well done sdf. I wish I could've brainstormed the genius idea of removing the "loot" from the loot extraction game. What a W approach that suggest the longevity of an exciting gameplay loop that keeps people coming back.

sullen flower
lyric creek
quaint tide
#

thanks @glad thunder for shitting the bed on this update

round dirge
#

lmfao

final niche
#

@glad thunder said he wanted to make his own PUBG, and he meant it.

subtle heart
#

🥀

icy dirge
#

wow the patch KICKS ASS i'm having so much fun!

rocky bramble
#

SDF = Stole Da Files

gentle hare
#

W patch. You all just can’t see the vision.

placid phoenix
#

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

mystic coral
#

This patch was actually a great push forward but you guys will cry about anything it seems atp

bright lynx
#

thanks guys for making me touch grass & be more social

forest linden
#

Well is it useless if we buy some item in a trader now?

low kelp
#

@glad thunder r e s i g n

bitter citrus
grizzled thorn
toxic socket
#

BRO I HAD ALL PURPLE IN NORMALS AND STILL LOST TO A GUY IN SQUIRE LIKE THIS IS UNBALANCED IM NOT THAT SHIT

main plume
#

Imagine complaining about random modifiers then
complaining about them being removed

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

sturdy fable
pastel surge
median anvil
leaden pumice
#

has anyone been able to claim their high roller rewards?

bitter citrus
#

patch 92 daggers get a +2, a +1, and a -5 damage buff. servers will be down 18 hrs on that one

neat urchin
#

range and ranger is fucking cancer

pearl pivot
#

L patch

wintry sun
#

Listen close, you sea-dogs, to the doom of IronMace. Their frigate, the Dark & Darker, once glittered with plunder enough to dazzle kingdoms. Yet at its wheel stood Captain Skull Daggerfang—S.D.F.—a visionary whose sight rotted into madness. He spun the helm with every whim, shattering maps, ignoring pleas, and steering straight into fog no compass could pierce.

When the Nexon Fleet roared “Stolen charts!” and blasted them from Steam’s grand port, Daggerfang laughed, slipping his cargo through outlaw torrents while letting the hull split. Crew bled away. The Inventory Master leapt first, leaving holds in chaos. Soma the herald was cast adrift after eleven months and seven paltry hours of audience. Chronicler Jaygriffuh, weary of patchwork disasters, followed.

No quivers were woven, no fresh steel forged, wizards’ grimoires were gutted, while the captain fattened his pet barbarians on double grog. Each new patch punched fresh leaks; the deck now tilts, treasure rusts, morale drifts like flotsam. Still Daggerfang grips the wheel, eyes glazed with “vision.”

Heed the lesson, lads: when a captain’s ego swallows his sense, quit the crew. Gold means nothing in Davy Jones’ pocket. Leap to a lifeboat before the lunatic drags you under.

idle whale
#

has everyone just accepted the game is dead at this point?

viscid iris
#

yes

wraith wigeon
#

bring back gear that's op af

ancient plume
#

yo rogue is chalked no?

flint furnace
#

The ambience is gone. Feels like a BR. I shouldnt run into 10 teams in a run to inferno, they are dungeons, they arent meant to be populated like that. The game has turned into a skill based battle royale. And if you are into that, dope this patch for you, but I personally fell in love with the way the game felt early on. I know Im bad at this game anyway, but now I cant even casually enjoy it.

lavish tendon
#

Ranger is wild with 88 health being the norm

main plume
#

new update is great yall are fucking noobs

boreal flame
#

huge hype for new dark and darker season, be sure to ignore and report anything negative you hear because it's based off of bad faith conversations and lies to attack SDF. fans know whats going on, real people will do what's right and stand up for IronMace and Developers

oak thicket
#

why simp

sullen flower
#

I just dropped a dookie that was better developed than this patch

quaint tide
burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

short parcel
#

is there any point in playing this game anymore? they removed anything worth grinding for and now its just a slop feast of barbs insta killing you because hp was nerfed

grand swallow
#

After giving arena some play the arena with no modifiers is nice. I have not played norms or high roller but arena feels fair and fun

stoic shadow
#

Wtf happened to the match making. What is this

mystic coral
fast basin
#

anyone knows what happened to random attributes?

low kelp
#

@glad thunder put down the drugs and your crystal ball and r e s i g n

bitter citrus
keen inlet
#

yall dont understand this update is actually really good
it made me realize i should be grateful for my life outside of this computer

but if patch 68 came back out i would forsake it all

spice stratus
#

im curious, do they genuinely not test the changes before they implement? in particular the numbers balance? like the fuck are they doing

twin geyser
#

Just shut down the servers. Basic servers with artifact limits, getting ABSOULTELY SHIT ON already.

slender orchid
#

Please bring back random parties

ancient plume
#

so is rogue still playable fr or is it ass now?

radiant furnace
#

Somewhat okay changes. Modifiers need to be back in for sure just remove move speed and get rid of the shit rolls no one wants. Instead of having 4 on a legendary do 3 if you want the gear to not be so op. Rogue didn’t need to be nerfed into oblivion like this he was one of the best boss characters. Just nerf hide not his dmg!

idle whale
sturdy fable
sage oak
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀 THIS

gusty pollen
#

Oh wow a wipe? There's SSF after the wipe right? I was really looking forward to trying SSF last time but missed it. Can't wait to find some cool gear with good rolls myself and use it!

ember sphinx
amber oriole
#

Most people. "I wanna go peacefully in my sleep" d a d fans. Just scroll up

quaint tide
shadow raft
#

everyone needs to see NotLikeThis 's content

chilly bluff
limber lark
#

that wasnt a micro O_O

sullen flower
fossil spoke
#

Y'all are wylin. Jeez. It's a new takeover. Just see where it leads. If it gets worse, we will find a new game. If it gets better, then at least we struggle-bussed through it.

mystic coral
bitter citrus
short parcel
#

ngl dark and darker is going down a sorry path and if im going to play a slop feast Id rather play something that has SOME content so anyone got any recommendation on a cool game?

warm rune
wet barn
#

Do we still q with people in arena

sharp talon
#

DID ITEMS LOOSE BONUSES OR SMTH? I don't see any bonus pieces

coral granite
#

God the base rolls on everything just fees like ASS

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

latent plume
#

maybe we can get nexon to sue and take the game back

fiery pilot
#

Read the patch notes

gusty sierra
#

Imagine removing the looting and the point to pvp from a looting pvp focused extraction game... i guess the next step is to introduce base building so we dont have to extract? We were the clnws all along...

toxic socket
#

make dark and darker an open world mmo

sturdy fable
#

It's possible they no longer have the brainpower on their team to handle random stat balancing in the future, hence their balancing issues..

sage oak
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

tulip socket
#

🇨 🇴 🇳 🇹 🇪 🇳 🇹 ❌
🇲 🇮 🇨 🇷 🇴 🇹 🇷 🇦 🇳 🇸 🇦 🇨 🇹 🇮 🇴 🇳 🇸 ✅

agile pecan
main plume
#

People complaining about solos being removed are just losers who are afraid of social interactions.

near stump
#

Currently on ROCKET LEAGUE watching chat and being entertained between games

short parcel
#

dude even the people that you need to watch on twitch to get their drops like yami are saying the game doesnt really feel fun anymore and that there isnt anything to grind towards and that theyd rather play valorant like go look at his steam and tell me if it looks like they are having fun they sound miserable and he looks like hes in hell

tired ferry
#

bro this loot is dog sht

solar crescent
#

what theres no duos or trios, your by yourself

sly adder
#

Squire = bis

coral granite
bright latch
#

@chilly bluff @main plume you guys need to chill my guys you been in here chugging off ironmace for over 7 hours. Seriously put the phone down.

sturdy fable
gusty sierra
#

We were the clwns all along. Gg wp

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

wet pecan
#

hi

sullen flower
mental coral
#

GAMES IS BROKE AF WITHOUT A PARTY FILL>>>>>>>>>>>>

mystic coral
#

Dude I see more name calling and my feelings are hurt then I see actually feedback lmao

near jasper
main plume
shut mural
#

Is it true they put a hour timer because they don’t want people criticizing this patch? I just got done playing a few hours and uninstalled after a nightmare crossbowman killed me from across the map while I was wearing epics and legendaries that had vigor and strength on them. I was full health. Didn’t matter. This game isn’t worth anyone’s time testing. SDF should never be allowed to work in this industry ever again.

chilly bluff
#

people are crying but dont even know whats wrong with the game Wakeup people want solos and duos back but dont even know why they removed them Wakeup people in chat defend dnd but the apes who perma fight in bandaid pot lobbies just think "you sdf simp you dumb" Wakeup gaming is dying stop crying about everygame you playWakeup @bright latch youre just very ignorant with no good opinions or any constructive critisism. keep being a sheep lil bro Wakeup

deep jewel
#

fuck @glad thunder

vestal raft
#

W sdf mindset kappa

sly adder
#

Yeah. Now Legacy, expedition into darkness, chroma tower, dungeon stalkers. All better than this crap. Bye

bright latch
solar crescent
#

lol robins right take a chill pill

gusty sierra
#

We were the clwns all along. Gg wp

sturdy fable
burnt moon
# sly adder Yeah. Now Legacy, expedition into darkness, chroma tower, dungeon stalkers. All ...

dont forget midnight walkers A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

mental coral
#

NO PARTY FILL WILL RUIN IT .I.

short parcel
# chilly bluff people are crying but dont even know whats wrong with the game <:Wakeup:10694015...

then go ahead and tell us whats so good about this update with solos and duos being removed if you arent able to play with friends you have no choice but to play agaisnt trios and if you go in the discord and look for a group most people just unique and not in a good way and with attributes being removed your no longer able to make up for anything your class lacked pretty much everything in this game can be and will be 1 tapped by a barb and ranger and with the loot nerf theres no point in even fighting for loot before this game was a LOOT EXTRACTION GAME but whats the point in fighting over loot if its just the same exact garbage not to mention it seems kinda like the devs played favorites with certains classes making others very much a better pick then everything else (barbs)

chilly bluff
pearl thunder
carmine zephyr
#

can you take all gear into normals nopw?

summer pilot
#

chat i just unistall the game i dident have 2 boyfriends to play with good luck

mystic coral
grim wasp
wraith wigeon
latent plume
#

i haven't seen a fumble this big since "2 weeks to kyiv"

hardy dawn
#

loot needs a buff

crimson cove
#

when he said random modifiers were being removed i felt like gem socketing should've stayed

gray rivet
heady hamlet
#

i miss dark and darker

manic scaffold
#

All they are doing is removing most of the stuff they added during this wipe it doesn't make sense

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

stoic shadow
#

bring back random match making

severe coyote
#

As I stated the game has fallen off because of sdf's vision and the coming changes, I was told time and time again by the pole riders that "everyone was just waiting for mid wipe" lmao. Well guess what, guess you were wrong about that. Imagine losing players during wipe-hype lol tragic

chilly bluff
edgy scarab
#

yeah honestly ive never seen a game go backwards so fast in 3-4 months this is stupid as hell, CAN I GET A 1+ IF YOU THINK THE GAME IS MOVING BACKWARDS #FIRE @glad thunder

short parcel
lethal oyster
#

solos was the reason i loved this game. i remeber the og goblin caves, when solos first launched, that game so amazing then, lets go back, stop killing the game

shut mural
#

There is no reason to not give gear more stats the higher in rarity it goes especially since MODIFIERS WERE REMOVED. Why does white to green gear ONLY GAIN 1 ARMOR. SDF needs to disappear.

river oyster
#

Going to bed hopefully ill wake up with sdf out of his own ass

charred hound
#

people are just ditching the team to go do quests, this is a**

gusty sierra
#

We were the clwns all along. Gg wp

pastel surge
toxic socket
#

the update is good, you guys never seem to be happy about anything. its fun to make teams in the dungeon, and the gear modifier is bad but honestly it makes the game more skillbased and balanced.

carmine zephyr
#

the only thing i cant stand is tkaing out solos

latent plume
#

on the bright side at least all the gold farmers will be out of business in like 2 weeks when the play count reaches a big ole 150, good play @glad thunder i see you

slim gust
#

only 27% positive reviews on steam in a month span for dark and darker ive quite literally never seen that before on a game LOL such trash devs

fleet surge
#

Is teaming in hr allowed now bc of the changes? I’m guessing it is since making teams in game is a thing so if you are a solo or duo and run into other solos or duos team up against the trios NO BANS

tame elbow
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀 THIS

still cloud
drifting sequoia
#

This loot system simple dont make sense, i saw blue pieces as "good" as white ones i already had

manic scaffold
hardy dawn
#

loot needs a buff

hardy briar
#

when is this game going to shut down

digital phoenix
glacial storm
clear pendant
#

How many players in dungeon? Is asia playing this bullshit?

pastel surge
#

To be honest, the game was never great (though it could be fun, it always lacked balance, direction and content). It just had the potential to become amazing, and looked like it would get there, which resulted in a massive cult following.

What we are seeing now isn't people being upset that an incredible game was ruined. It's that they are finally realizing that IM is incapable of delivering the game people thought Dark and Darker would become. A lot are just coping thinking that if we return the game to a previous state, it will be great. But that doesn't really solve much.

shut mural
green beacon
#

Diablo II launched on June 29, 2000, after roughly 3 years of development, featuring 225 unique items, 92 prefixes, 81 suffixes, and 7 character classes, each with 3 skill trees, for a total of 210 skills (30 per class).

stoic shadow
#

THIS IS AWFUL. WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SPAWN IN A SINGLE LOBBY WITH OTHER TRIOS

thorn crown
#

Does anyone here actually enjoy low time to kill?

near jasper
#

I just don't understand sdf, if this was his vision all along why didn't it start like this in the playtests? Everyone got addicted to the playtests because they were good and we had random modifiers then as well... I don't think he even knows what his "vision" is. Blind people have better vision than this.

sturdy fable
icy dirge
#

i'm having so much fun with this new patch!! nice job SDF and team!! let's GO

sullen flower
#

How did Graysun even become the community manager bruh, must be good friends with sdf

chilly bluff
steady yarrow
#

Teaming update is toxic af

carmine zephyr
#

in my 24 years of gaming i have never a company blatantly ignore their community so much lmao. i use to love this game and im forcing myself to play it now

hardy briar
#

Its about time this game kicked the bucket, dont forget to leave a bad review before you unistall. it needs to get removed off steam and everyone should get a refund

pastel surge
#

When you realize that Minesweeper has more playable modes than Dark and Darker. And probably more players, too.

low flame
#

I use to love loading up some solo’s inbetween my cs2 games, but i can’t do that anymore which is bs. Annoying to get rolled by trios when i am alone (no, i do not want to team up with people in the dungeon. i want to play by myself)

glacial storm
#

Its soooo boring to kill someone just to loot his trash

full torrent
#

Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet

I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.

Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.

The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.

Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.

This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s been a hell of a run. But perhaps the truth is this: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name. Not as a game, but a memory, lost in the dark.

If SDF won’t change course, then sadly, I must.

sullen flower
drifting sequoia
# sturdy fable I’ve said it multiple times. A common rarity bardiche one-taps players with the ...

Yeah. But i have a additional trouble:

Since im new (playing for 4-5 days) i simple dont have any reason for PVE (i really dont like to loot the same gear i already have, but with colored name)

And cant pvp, because: 1- im new and i dont know how to play Nice 2- i even cant try because i dont have friends to play and i cant matchmaking anymore xD.

I really liked the old loot system, altleast for pve (i dont try pvp yet)

clear pendant
near jasper
#

Ray Charles has better vision.

bitter shadow
#

impossible play solo.
3x1

zinc pollen
#

this update is TRASH

toxic socket
#

game is good u guys are too picky

devout sapphire
#

so... i know the game is at its worst right now. but how tf do i get team mates? theres no options to change solo duo trio. and no option to not fill. but i keep getting put in solo and fighting full trios

hardy dawn
#

loot needs a buff

light pike
#

SDF should've left this patch in the kitchen

analog shale
devout pollen
restive sand
#

I love this game but I have to say this update is sad

tawdry mason
#

Why is the wait 9 minutes

abstract sedge
bright latch
stoic shadow
#

@dusky trout fix this bullshit

golden yacht
#

time to raid the steam reviews

vernal arch
#

EW the new nerfed loot table is DISGUSTING and a slap in the face

atomic condor
glacial storm
#

There is just no motivation to play it because neither killing or dying makes any value difference

drifting sequoia
granite copper
#

is anyone else rubberbanding hardcore ? so annoying

unborn lagoon
#

god damn ive died more trying to team up than just playing

formal kiln
#

@sdf RESIGN!

bitter shadow
#

or you play this game with friends or you dont play anymore. thats just sad. Just green and blues for itens, really disapointed

tall pagoda
#

Dude someone buy the game and save it

peak laurel
restive sand
#

I have always stood up for this game and the devs but with this update they need to refund us our money. This isnt a game anymore. I wouldnt have paid 30$ for this. I dont consider this an actual game with this new patch. It's just a combat simulator at this point. A slap in the face for sure. I wanted this game to live on but honestly this patch makes me want to forget about it. Watching streamers play this wont even be entertaining

unreal stirrup
#

I think the patch is good

plucky peak
#

@glad thunder give me a refund 🙂 give ALL of us a REFUND 🙂

near jasper
lethal oyster
#

GAME IS AWFUL NOW

frozen mesa
#

@glad thunder just leave the company so anyone else, you aint got what it takes.

stoic shadow
bitter oak
#

Is anyone else's audio broken? Sounds terrible

tidal plover
#

my squire kit is still boosted as if it didnt wipe but inly on ranger lol

lyric creek
brave storm
#

i like how the "balance" patch does not allow me to fill teamates...

tulip spear
#

They actually blocked the word re/ sign thats insane

compact hollow
# full torrent **__Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet__** I never imagined ...

Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet

I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.

Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.

The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.

Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.

This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s been a hell of a run. But perhaps the truth is this: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name. Not as a game, but a memory, lost in the dark.

If SDF won’t change course, then sadly, I must.

vernal arch
#

I LOVE looting squire gear while WEARING squire gear!!! what an absolute and complete JOKE

chilly bluff
gentle hare
#

Tbh running around as a naked rat talking shit has been pretty fun

wispy pilot
cobalt hedge
glacial storm
clear pendant
#

Probably 0-24 players that constantly go in trio with randoms like this patch, no gear gap so they have a lil chance every pvp. The thing is those players are so casual, probably play not more than 3 hours per day and game will die eventually because nobody wants to play this bullshit

coral basin
#

any idea whats the reason for the random modifiers on loot to be removed?

supple meadow
#

Wakeup 🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 Wakeup 🇹 🅾️ Wakeup 🇵 🅰️ 🇹 🇨 🇭 Wakeup 6️⃣ 8️⃣ Wakeup

granite copper
#

yeah this actually just finally is boring now wow

steady yarrow
timber imp
#

0 rogue players now 😂

signal osprey
#

removing solo/duo without making a central social hub doesnt make sense. The change would be totally fine if there was an actual social aspect to the game but its severly lacking. I cant load into a town/tavern and meet people why am i gonna want to meet anyone indungeon makes 0 sense. This update should have brought a social setting with these changes

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

zealous fable
#

cant even queue with randoms anymore for trio thats done. its done for bud

compact hollow
stoic shadow
#

The entire patch makes me want to quit

unreal stirrup
tidal plover
#

I HAVE A GREY A WHITE AND A GREEN PAIR OF HEAVY BOOTS THEY ALL HAVE 3 STR AM I MISSING SUMTHING

wispy pilot
unborn lagoon
#

alright was having fun but i think its over for me

sullen flower
#

Sdf needs to stop wiping his unwashed and sweaty balls all over the game!!!

vernal arch
#

I liked trios. I don't want to load into a dungeon solo and HOPE other players will want to team up with me. God this update is so stupid. Who is running the show? what in the actual hell man

clear pendant
tawdry mason
#

What are the twitch drops for

brave glade
#

how do i team up with someone mid dungeon

glacial storm
#

They cut the solo and duo queue just to save the cost on severs.They are going to broke

subtle heart
#

🥀🥀

bitter shadow
lethal oyster
#

I HAVE 3.4K HOURS IN THIS GAME 98% OF IT WAS SOLO, no reason to play this game anymore

rustic socket
#

bro this is the final nail in the coffin. literaly barbs just one tapping every class because they get 200% headshot bonus on bardiche. zero skill expression. gear doesnt matter. solos and duos gone. no new content. devs put the crack pipe down

pale patio
#

the devs are really cooking with this update haha. wow they're really cooking. wait its burning! devs stop cooking! STOP COOKING!

compact hollow
#

@glad thunder Wakeup 🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 Wakeup 🇹 🅾️ Wakeup 🇵 🅰️ 🇹 🇨 🇭 Wakeup 6️⃣ 8️⃣ Wakeup

chilly bluff
stoic shadow
granite copper
#

the actual insane rubberbanding is the real problem holy the game is not playable after update for me

unreal stirrup
limber lark
#

on a positive note. Game still fun with friends

wispy pilot
red basalt
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

humble pelican
sullen flower
#

I bet sdf was the one that goes to the right side of the iceberg when trying to flip it in club penguin

wraith wigeon
#

got 3 reward tokens. basically bis.

tulip socket
#

🇨 🇴 🇳 🇹 🇪 🇳 🇹 ❌
🇲 🇮 🇨 🇷 🇴 🇹 🇷 🇦 🇳 🇸 🇦 🇨 🇹 🇮 🇴 🇳 🇸 ✅

restive sand
#

So are they really just trying to get people to leave? I dont see the how this is playable. I love this game btw

steady yarrow
#

Force players to solo queue, give them the hope of a in-game party, load them in next to a trio... what?

zealous fable
glacial storm
inner tendon
shut mural
compact hollow
#

Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet

I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.

Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.

The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.

Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.

This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s been a hell of a run. But perhaps the truth is this: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name. Not as a game, but a memory, lost in the dark.

If SDF won’t change course, then sadly, I must.

barren ingot
#

I called this shit weeks ago. This one que business isn’t going to work no matter what. Anyone with even half a brain could see that solo now non existent because you can’t outplay 3 people. Good luck doing anything as a solo, you know the majority of the playerbase. It’s finally over SDF! Good job butchering a game that was impossible to fail

somber mirage
analog shale
#

@glad thunder do you like licking diddyies buhhole

brave glade
#

why am i like two tapping all mobs as a wizard with magic missles lol

limber lark
#

They'll work out the kinks. Happy they play test some out of the box stuff. People will play it out of hate, and slowly itll become the diamond its meant to be.

vernal arch
#

WOW thats right now the gems are just trinkets instead of being useful and fun to loot. what a garbage update

novel rock
#

how do i make my squire gear common

flint ingot
#

Damn they managed to make this shit game even shittier and tbh I'm not surprised. What's the point of loot now that random modifiers are gone like wtf?

compact lily
#

Just when I think I’m ready to come back and play I read these new updates holy crap 😂 that’s all I can say 😞 this game is falling more and more from what it use to be good luck lads

bitter shadow
#

or you find two people to play with you, or leave tha game......

pure cargo
glacial storm
#

Its OBVIOUSLY a unbalanced update that sdf should realize.

left hill
#

how do you que with random teammates?

zealous fable
echo mountain
edgy pumice
#

is DND back or should i just comeback nxt season?

junior flicker
#

whats the best jewelry for CS BOClock?

gritty ivy
#

please merge NA arena queues, US WEST is SLOW

naive coral
#

Is the game fun atm?

near jasper
limber lark
#

Again if you think this state of the game is the final product...Type harder! I am sure it'll be the change you're crying for! castingrod WipeHype fishing

carmine zephyr
#

barb can one shot

vernal arch
#

The game play loop was damn near perfect before this update. All we needed was more CONTENT, not nerfs to the loot table or nerfs to the ease of playing with other people or the absurdly dumb decision to remove modifiers and making a entire game mechanic obsolete. I usually keep my mouth shut and just play the game but goddamn you ruined my dopamine fix by destroying this game! It was damn near perfect and 8/10 chests would give me that shot of dopamine I craved. Now the game is boring, lifeless and just another shitty battle royale. Get it together and fix this mess.

steady yarrow
#

I don't mind the gear changes, feel okay.

The solo queue though - oof

sand jewel
#

@vernal arch he spitting @glad thunder tf are u doing LOL

left hill
#

so not only did they remove my solo but know i have to fight to even get a teammate ffs why?????

violet gate
#

vision

subtle heart
#

🥀

coral basin
#

the gear changes hurt it the most for me, got my fix from the trueish random loot, plus loved stacking Luck when i could. 2 games i realized all my loot had no stats, just got off, when i fully read the notes,

flint ingot
near jasper
frozen parcel
#

I'm telling y'all. They want to kill off their playerbase. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

sullen flower
cunning ermine
#

W SELF SABOTAGE @glad thunder JUST ADMIT YOU HATE THE GAME

manic musk
# mortal ginkgo We cant even make twitch drops work?

7th round in a row that i've been killed by someone doing the 'form group' emote with handshake ... just for them to already be in a full group when i get to them and their other two pop out and they kill me. Amazing "organic grouping" design. @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

barren ingot
#

SDF is shitting himself right now I bet. Update looks like ass and isn’t being well received. They really thought twitch drops were the saviour for this test cycle hahahahahah

compact hollow
#

Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet

I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.

Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.

The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.

Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.

This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s b

junior flicker
#

does arena gear have to be found by?

vernal arch
#

I can't man. This is too terrible to let it go. Whoever this update was catered to(probably the reddit minority) I hope they are enjoying their lifeless shell of what once was. I hope they are ecstatic that they aren't getting rolled over by gear modifiers. I hope they enjoy pulling poor and common grade crap out of every chest and gold pile. I hope they find joy in running around solo screaming "friendly friendly!!!!11!"

tired ferry
#

hows everyone doing tonight?

carmine zephyr
#

as a solo only player i am so mad at the devs. SDF is probably the most clueless dev i have ever heard of. way to ruin the game for 95% of your player base

toxic socket
#

Ruins is so unbelievably laggy rn its crazy

subtle heart
#

🥀S🥀D🥀F🥀

signal sundial
#

Solo players rage hader man, honestly playing solo right now myself just give it a go

green beacon
near stump
#

what to do...i will tell you.....leave the game and quit talking in chat and make it a ghost town even more. you cant send the message when you keep sending messages

cunning jolt
fringe granite
#

Don’t worry fellas, me and my trio are doing our part to lower the player count

stoic shadow
#

This is really bad. All the fun is gone

sharp beacon
#

this games officially cooked. i hope steam removes it again. give it a proper send off to the shallow grave sdf is digging for it. ive got my money worth i believe, will be uninstalling immediatly tho 😂💩 such a shame they did this. GGs fellow people. it WAS fun!!

echo mountain
fluid arrow
#

they nerfed players and buffed mobs gg, mobs are harder to kill than players

hearty crag
#

they killed dark and darker

fierce violet
#

GAME STILL CRASHES WHEN MIDNIGHT CURSE STARTS AT 1 MIN 30 SECONDS EVERY TIME

blazing pier
#

this is off a comment on yamis vid and holy shit it hits the nail on the fucken head "@WeWantBears
5 hours ago
SDF collected money from players, squeezed the free-to-play until the majority of willing spenders paid for the premium game (which has majority of the content), and then... cut down the game until all players would willingly uninstall over the last month and especially today. What a good grift, fully fits with 2025.

A true Pump and Dump, for Dark and Darker.

The dark grows darker..."

toxic socket
#

dark and darker is definetely getting darker and darker

manic musk
#

Forcing people to watch DAD on Twitch for 7 hours just to be able to store their gold Zzzz had to sign up for an account just to do this sigh

icy dirge
#

wow they really knocked it out of the park with this patch, i'm having a blast

fathom tapir
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere

near stump
#

imagine the game had awesomeness to it like it had been out for years...then years later the game is about 2 ideas away from being pong on atari

shrewd ledge
#

SDF collected money from players, squeezed the free-to-play until the majority of willing spenders paid for the premium game (which has majority of the content), and then... cut down the game until all players would willingly uninstall over the last month and especially today. What a good grift, fully fits with 2025.

A true Pump and Dump

alpine anchor
#

this game is dead now bro its so sad

stoic shadow
wraith wigeon
#

skill issue

vernal arch
#

Has nothing to do with skill ya troll.

sudden mural
#

no cosmetics no watch adventure player stance

echo mountain
#

This game has changed many times over the years. Looking back at clips from 2022 gameplay it was a completely different vibe than the last year or 2. They're trying to make an untested game concept work so I'm happy they're still experimenting.

red owl
#

why should i go into dungeons and loot, if it actually doesnt have a loot system?

rough drum
#

the problem with trios only is my progress in this game depends on OTHER people playing well. BRING BACK SOLOS. frock duos but we NEED solos...the frock man

steady yarrow
fringe granite
#

Why tf are they wasting time making new modules when it’s gonna take until late August for water map? Does anyone actually care if you kill a kobold in a big cave instead of a small cave? Does it even register the third time you see it?

urban geyser
#

Have the attributes been removed from the game?

fervent anvil
toxic socket
#

🇮 🇳 🇨 🇴 🇳 🇨 🇪 🇮 🇻 🇦 🇧 🇱 🇪 anguish

smoky plume
#

hope sdf is getting a mrder b0nr from killing this game

stoic shadow
#

I'm so sad that the patch is this. I would have bought the new charter and emotes. I can't add money to shit though

echo mountain
signal igloo
#

,' , | ,'_'

sterile anvil
steady yarrow
signal osprey
#

yeah no im not gonna 1v2/1v3 everytime i get in a fight and im not gonna strictly play pve either. You remove solo and duo ques without even adding a social hub. im not going to go into the dungeon and "make friends" Thats just not the place to trust people. Could have so easily added a social setting like a tavern or small town to form parties but devs absolutely ignored that. I just wont play this game idc if there was no solos as long as there was an actual ingame place to form a party that wasnt the god damn dungeon where everyone is bloodthirsty and the ones that arent are straight up untrustable. Deffinetly a rugpull so ironmace doesnt have to payout to nexon. unreal

novel star
#

so can you not play trios anymore? i just reinstalled?

fringe granite
echo mountain
sullen flower
bleak pasture
stoic shadow
#

bring back the trios

burnt moon
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

toxic socket
#

why dont people accept team invites??

bitter shadow
#

in this configuration, the game is over for me, impossible to play, retired until reverse this nonsense

timid lichen
#

@zinc sparrow @tight widget @staff you guys are completly fucken lost

sterile anvil
unkempt drift
#

Nah the patch is so good man im having so much fun holy moly!!!

limber lark
#

CRY

ocean gale
sturdy fable
signal osprey
#

wants to make every class be able to 1v3 .....allows every class to break doors

gritty ivy
#

mannnn why are arena queues so long? really no one playing????

buoyant flicker
toxic socket
#

🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🇪 🇩 😭 😭 anguish

mental cobalt
#

wtf is this game like you either make gold to buy legendary or unique or loot to find it

limber lark
novel star
#

yea i might as well uninstall, not fun without trios

rugged flame
#

who else up stroking they shit instead of playing dnd cause SDF doesn’t wanna let go of his vision

west garden
#

why is time to kill reduced? why is there no matchmaking? why is loot so bad? why was the gem socketing feature removed (aka why are cockatrice and goldsmith still in the game) ???

heady spindle
unkempt drift
#

i love this change so much man the game is so fun i love looting the same shit over and over again and mobs tapping me 1 shot

sly adder
#

-Revert changes -remove Sdf +40k players

carmine zephyr
#

this game fuc king sucks now. fu ck you @zinc sparrow and fu ck you @glad thunder

fringe granite
#

I took psychic damage when someone posted the difference between white and green gear

clear pendant
wanton otter
#

every time I get gear > oh hey BIS

echo mountain
#

without the grind what are we going to do? pvp?

inner tendon
sterile anvil
cosmic swan
tidal sequoia
#

Nexon wants the game as collateral and SDF has chosen to tank the game before handing it over. Can't prove it but most of us see this for what it is. The game was damn near perfect just 3 months ago. There's no logical explanation for the changes that have come to DaD in such a short time frame outside of intentional sabotage at BEST. Sucks, man 💔

stoic shadow
#

I AM PLAYING STARWARS BATTLEFRONT TWO BECAUSE THE PATCH IS THAT BAD

sullen anchor
inner egret
#

ive been back playing league for 2 weeks because the game is that bad

carmine zephyr
#

this game fuc king sucks now. fu ck you @zinc sparrow ysun and fu ck you @glad thunder

wooden osprey
#

get on overwatch tbh

uneven cairn
#

Same, playing league

limber lark
#

if you want true changes everyone has to agree to be real cool and not kill each other in the dungeon. I mean 60% of the time, it works every time. But seriously this isn't permanent ❤️ ComfyOttoRight Bandage

fringe granite
#

Been having the PoE itch again honestly

edgy scarab
#

just looked at steam charts playerbase is down 40% sice last month xD, its almost laughable what sdfs vision is man :/

tidal jasper
unkempt drift
steady yarrow
#

Gave a bunch of solos a shot, it's just not as fun as before.

Not a great update guys

sage oak
#

A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker

To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—

We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.

But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.

We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.

So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.

#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀

toxic socket
#

anyone wanna trio?

uneven cairn
#

We need to wait for the last 4k loyalist to find out that y8.com has better dungeon games so we can change the game

shrewd ferry
#

Sso rogue got nerfed to shit????????????????

icy dirge
final niche
#

So according to the wiki, Nexon was working on the P3 project before 2021. Does that project still exist? I'm really hoping for a game that could replace DaD.

viral lotus
#

No it was scrapped

frozen parcel
#

@glad thunder YO WHAT DA FK U DO TO DA GAME

inner tendon
visual matrix
#

the game is in worse ruins than the map

limber lark
#

This isnt permanent ComfyOttoRight ❤️ Bandage

main bison
slate peak
#

This last update turned the game into one giant joke it's not even worth playing you can't team up with Rando's anymore not even worth looting for loot Rogues get one shot by crossbows now Good job turning it into one giant joke they're devs you're killing the game!!!

unkempt drift
#

IRONMACE Co., Ltd. 8F, 225-18, Pangyoyeok-ro Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si,
Gyeonggi-do, Republic of Korea

Little excursion boys, lets go

narrow pike
#

idk why ppl yappin rn, this game is so good. I love never having to open up a chest now because purple and base gear are the exact same

manic musk
#

Where can i get a list of items that can break doors now?

uneven cairn
#

They will revert, we just have to lost time for no reason till then, because of a lunatic

boreal flame
#

They are slow with making the changes because they care about balance. If they rushed these things you would be in here crying about how the new things break up the flow of the game. Just be honest about this. The devs are doing a fantastic job of making changes when they are ready to roll them out

mental cobalt
#

Game is wack Make gold for BIS or get rolled sdf probably sucks at the game that’s why he got rid of the extra stats

honest estuary
calm copper
#

OH ANOTHER CROSS BOW

bitter shadow
#

IF KEEP THIS WAY, GAME IS OVER

limber lark
# final niche not permanent, but cyclical

fair... I only played season 6 and had a bunch of fun but it seemed like everyone was already jumping off by then. I understand this update isn't ideal but the matchmaking clearly wont remain the same. Also figured them trying so many wild things good and bad will lead to creating a diamond that we all deserve.

left pelican
#

rip game ty @glad thunder chino de mierda

cunning jolt
#

sdf i gotta be honest i dont have a lot to live for and this wipe made the game so unplayable for solo enjoyers that i genuinely think i want to uninstall. this game is the only thing ive kept living for but now its just gonna die and its all your fault. Never been more depressed in my entire life. your vision sucks and you should listen to your players unless you are actively trying to kill the game which it really seems like you are.

signal osprey
#

yeah man take away solo/duo que but dont add a social setting to team up with people. what an illustrious idea

unkempt drift
#

Im just saying, the address to their office is publically available on their website. So if you have any inquires or anything like that, you can send them correspondences and the like to that address

solid spindle
#

i take back everything i said, this game is now extremely dull. not only is looting not fun anymore given the modifiers missing. but in 5 raids i haven't found a single bit of blue gear, nor have i found a green or above for my class. i keep running into 1v2s and 1v3s where everyone seems to be 10x quicker than me. i wouldn't mind playing solo in trios, but without random modifiers this game is truly miserable and is now lacking the magic that made dark and darker

sweet crow
#

What was the point of dropping TTK and then dumping all over the gear? Why wouldn't they try one change at a time before punching all these holes in their boat... Not to mention the forcing trios just to remove queuing with randoms like way to give the 2 steps forward 100 back new meaning sdf/ironmess

sullen flower
#

God I just love trying to find another chump who decided to queue solo then hope he doesn’t be a typical DaD player and kill me

shadow raft
humble rock
#

sdf retire

grand swallow
#

Patch is not so bad

sharp coral
coral thistle
#

Any reason to get gear now? No random modifiers I can’t fix the weaker parts of any class I play so I’m just gonna get rock paper killed by the premade in ruins

*@Vanguard so the game is just full gear check, I have the cooler colored gear so now I win.

simple sky
#

YO HOLY FGUCK I LITERALLY CANTPLAY ROGUE I JUST GOT 2 TAPPED BY A FUCK ASS GOBLIN ARCHER WTF?

gaunt zealot
#

ref do something sdf lost his mind 😭

manic musk
severe coyote
tepid notch
earnest drift
# grand swallow Patch is not so bad

tbf I recognize why they removed random mods but we would have to see how this goes. Most of the patch was actually good things (more modules for ice, removing the circle, removing fog, shields are more reliable), reducing ttk was bad but I can appreciate monsters dying faster as a side effect

toxic socket
#

this is sad

subtle heart
#

I support Nexon's legal battles.

clear hedge
#

The game has a premise for years working with the status of items, it is difficult to balance, yes but that was the fun of the game now it is just idk it is just something without fun and purpose, make Boss for what?

viral lotus
#

Getting one tapped by ghost king is SOOOO FUN am I right guys. Impossible to boss now. Ggs

mental cobalt
#

Kim Jung is gonna punish SDF for how shit the game is

tepid locust
#

i still think there should be solos and everything else

tepid notch
#

"High impact power weapons can now destroy a door without needing to equip a special perk, giving all classes the possibility to run or chase."

how about you just..have less doors 💀

unkempt drift
gaunt zealot
#

can we talk about how dog the new loot is

naive bloom
humble rock
manic musk
final niche
#

SDF wants a brutal dungeon? No problem. But he simply removed the modifier. The truth is, to make the whole game function properly, monster stats, crafting recipes, map designs, etc. all need corresponding adjustments. This is a massive amount of work. So the end result will either be rolling back, or we'll go through a prolonged turbulent period before the game dies

dull ingot
#

They are slow with making the changes because they care about balance. If they rushed these things you would be in here crying about how the new things break up the flow of the game. Just be honest about this. The devs are doing a fantastic job of making changes when they are ready to roll them out

earnest drift
stiff spire
woeful raft
#

how you guys liking the wipe.?

abstract stirrup
dense nest
#

With this game no modifiers it’s so cooked

toxic socket
#

honestly what is sdf doing, imagine a McDonalds employee quits his job and decides to make his own burger shop and even though it initially only has 1 burger it becomes one of the most celebrated burger spots in the past decade and eventually they add a few more menu items that people enjoy. but then imagine you go there one day and order your usual and the owner says. actually we don't have that anymore in fact we only have one burger right now and it only has onions. and when you ask why. when he sees the data that at least 66% of his customers aren't in favor of this change, the owner says " because thats how i like it, this is my vision of a good burger, here lets try my vision together!"

timber imp
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Timmy experience patch

naive bloom
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SDF completely fumbled Dark and Darker like it was his mission to ruin it. What started as a gritty, unique, and intense dungeon crawler turned into an unbalanced, grindy, borderline pay-to-win mess under his direction. His updates feel random, his balance decisions are wildly out of touch, and his communication with the community is basically nonexistent. Instead of listening to the players who made the game popular in the first place, he steamrolls feedback like it's beneath him. The man acts like he’s creating a masterpiece, but in reality, he’s just patching holes in a sinking ship with ego and duct tape. Honestly, if destroying potential was a skill, SDF would be max level with a legendary title. At this point, the only dark thing left is the future of the game under his lead — and the only thing getting extracted is player hope.

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humble rock
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Aight, but lemme break it down real proper for the people in the back—'cause if you been around since day one, you feel this. SDF ain’t just fumbling the bag, he dropped it, kicked it into the sewer, and now actin’ like it ain’t even his fault. Bro came in like he knew better than everybody, but all he did was disrespect the foundation. Real ones know Dark and Darker had sauce—it was grimy, it was tense, it was real. But now? It’s like he turned it into some watered-down, RNG-riddled cash grab. Ain’t no heart in it no more, just flashy BS to pull in whales and flex battle passes.

And don’t even get me started on the updates—one week the game’s broken, next week it’s still broken but with a new coat of paint and another bundle in the shop. Man’s priorities are backwards. We asked for balance, he gave us bunny cosmetics. We asked for better servers, he gave us premium respec tokens. We said talk to us, and he went ghost like we ain't even here. Whole community out here makin’ memes and writing essays, and he too busy counting microtransaction money to care.

And what’s wild is—he had something special. This coulda been that game we talk about for years, like “yo, remember them late-night runs with the boys?” But instead it’s like watching your favorite corner store turn into a corporate chain—you don’t recognize it no more, and you damn sure don’t feel welcome. So yeah, maybe the game’s still online, but the soul? That left the dungeon a long time ago.

cold radish
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random matching had to go lets just use handshake emote instead 🤮

icy swan
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sdf has to go let some other people with actual passion take over

rare venture
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Hard facts the gameplay is so much more fun, figure out how to make loot more fun and the gameplay as fun as it is now

sharp coral
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Aight, but lemme break it down real proper for the people in the back—'cause if you been around since day one, you feel this. SDF ain’t just fumbling the bag, he dropped it, kicked it into the sewer, and now actin’ like it ain’t even his fault. Bro came in like he knew better than everybody, but all he did was disrespect the foundation. Real ones know Dark and Darker had sauce—it was grimy, it was tense, it was real. But now? It’s like he turned it into some watered-down, RNG-riddled cash grab. Ain’t no heart in it no more, just flashy BS to pull in whales and flex battle passes.

And don’t even get me started on the updates—one week the game’s broken, next week it’s still broken but with a new coat of paint and another bundle in the shop. Man’s priorities are backwards. We asked for balance, he gave us bunny cosmetics. We asked for better servers, he gave us premium respec tokens. We said talk to us, and he went ghost like we ain't even here. Whole community out here makin’ memes and writing essays, and he too busy counting microtransaction money to care.

And what’s wild is—he had something special. This coulda been that game we talk about for years, like “yo, remember them late-night runs with the boys?” But instead it’s like watching your favorite corner store turn into a corporate chain—you don’t recognize it no more, and you damn sure don’t feel welcome. So yeah, maybe the game’s still online, but the soul? That left the dungeon a long time ago.

green beacon
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@rare venture your cooked

white tinsel
narrow pike
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is SDF doing comedy work>

earnest drift
cyan kiln
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Can I refund this trash isn't the product the I bought

oak basin
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is this game more dead now

unkempt drift
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Bro i TOLD YOU GUYS. SDF is a Nexon Agent who was tasked with making a competitor to the Nexon Game so that when he runs DnD into the ground, players would flock back to Nexon

solid spindle
final niche
modern nacelle
humble rock
# earnest drift the combat STILL is very much fun. Don't having solos is bad, ttk could be a lit...

Bro really said “the combat is still fun” like that’s supposed to excuse the rest of this dumpster fire of an update. Yeah, swinging a sword can still be fun—in the same way eating dry cement is technically a meal. But don’t act like we ain't been eating scraps. No solos? Trash. TTK? Outta whack. Mods? Still busted. And your solution is “just remove it until they figure it out”? That’s like saying, “just take the engine out the car till we know why it won’t start.”

The game ain't a vibe just 'cause one thing still works. A cracked screen don’t mean the phone still good when the battery’s fried, the mic’s dead, and the camera app crashes on open. Quit settling. If combat is the only thing left holding this game up, then it’s hanging by a thread—and SDF out here with scissors.

icy dirge
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having a lot of fun with this patch 👍 nice job ironmace

lofty cave
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o7 in the chat its over

thorn cliff
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Now I believe that SDF is North Korean spy,because North Korean don’t understand the games

white tinsel
sharp coral
# earnest drift the combat STILL is very much fun. Don't having solos is bad, ttk could be a lit...

Ah yes, the combat “STILL is very much fun.” Fantastic insight—like saying bread is still bread. You open with a sentence that reads like a desperate attempt to convince even yourself that the game still has a pulse. If you’re clinging to “fun combat” like it’s a life raft, maybe it’s because everything else is circling the drain?

Next: “Don’t having solos is bad.” First of all, the sentence structure makes it sound like English attacked you and won. But let’s assume you meant “not having solos is bad.” That’s an opinion, sure—but you offer no context. Why is it bad? Is it because you need a babysitter in team modes? Or is it just harder to blame teammates when you flop solo?

Then comes the classic “TTK could be a little higher.” What does that even mean? You want people to live longer… so you can miss more shots? Stretch out your mediocrity over a few extra milliseconds? The TTK is a design choice—raising it without adjusting weapon balance, ability pacing, or map flow is just a lazy take. You want more breathing room not because it's better design, but because you're getting outgunned and need a handicap.

And the pièce de résistance: “Random mods were a problem, if they can’t find a way to fix it they should just remove it until having a solution.” That’s some big brain thinking—if something’s broken, just yank it out. Why stop there? Why not remove every system that isn’t perfect? Just ship an empty box and call it “balanced.” The devs are supposed to iterate, improve, and test—removing features out of panic is how you end up with sterile, uninspired design. But hey, maybe that’s more your speed.

cold quartz
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ts patch pmo

cunning jolt
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ADD SOLOS BACK IMMEDIATELY!!! EMERGENCY PATCH NOW!!!

slender seal
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sd L

final niche
rare venture
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Those of us in the game playing are having a blast, I keep getting a couple random other solos to shake hands and we run around battle for our lives, if someone dies and leaves we find another willing soul and keep going

earnest drift
sullen flower
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So without random rolls, why would new players even pick up this game over Fortnite?

indigo ferry
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Guys how do u claim ur last seasons demigod rewards