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What has this SDF done? Plz tell me, I dont know?
why are reandom modifiers gone again
we only delete users messages when its instantly bannable. NSFW, kys messages and the likes. if someone's removing messages that they shouldn't let a TM know.
BRUH THIS WIPE IS BUNS
PLEASE FUCKING BRING BACK SOLOS. The game actually doesn't even feel that different than before, I just can't 1v3 anymore. I'm tired boss. Please let me enjoy 1v1's again.
Removed solo and duos. Removed random stats on gear. Reduced time to kill even more.
Going from the “testing” unique modifiers to no random modifiers is crazy work. 1hour between messages even crazier.
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<@&1019888848773328936> you guys said gen chat was spammable, now there is an hour cooldown? why you censoring people
maybe dont make bad patches and expect your community to like it
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😭
Best patch ever
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re s i g n
tavern chat timmer has been fixed, please move over to that for spam
can't claim rewards? solution?
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restart twitch
From 50 to 10 minutes 💀 @quiet lance
We cant even make twitch drops work?
Does anyone know how to queue with people from your region? I select English but it keeps sticking me with people on the other side of the world. I cant see what region they are in before i accept the invite or the game starts. When I get in I cant move or just rubber band back to where i was.
EDIT: Have they seriously changed slow mode to 60 minutes per message?
no way your even trying to support this bum ass game bro
Mods are all munt goblins
@eternal violet
working for me
@clear crow
but yo who are these paid actors that are bouncing on the meat trying to say the patch is good?
You missed the jump part. You take way less DOT from "floor is lava" effects if you do that.
New Game -> Dungeon Stalkers
thats sdf on his other accounts
wtf up the no roles on stuff qtf goin g on
Bruh, puts 1 hour restriction message LMAO
guys in fucking tears trying to gaslit lmao omg it is a fucking hour cooldown what the shit
Terr
who came up with the idea of removing the roles on gear
who came up with the idea of removing the roles on gear
Insane chat timers are making me feel like the <@&1019888848773328936> dont want their community to discuss the game. Why censor your passionate fans? Stop being weird.
Sdf vision
Is audio bugged rn?
what's everyone's favorite way to play the game now that SDF removed 75% of the games content? mine is to open the game, look at the player count, laugh, then alt f4
Stop crying and go play something else cry baby’s
careful, hes about to finish! Stop riding him!
i miss the 10minute timer
FIX THE DROPS YOU C L O W N @glad thunder
@glad thunder Items are meaningless. Random feel is gone. Fights are 50/50 coin flips now in which you die in 1 millisecond. Nothings special anymore everyones boring and the same. Ranger is even more cancer (somehow). trios only (why). @glad thunder R E S I G N! Also before the fake shill accounts come in defending him i want you to know they are fake so dont try.
will there be another wipe before s7?
Bold of you to assume there's going to be a s7
twitch drops don't seem to be progressing
Why even bother bro
this game is garbage now
gg
You guys call yourself game devs when you drop updates like this? Get real, you're thieves.
What the heck happend to this game?????
hey remember when good guy dave said they respect their community then 2 hrs later put the chat on an hr timer because this company is too incompetent to even moderate a medium sized discord.
Rangers are more broken than before fuck this game
guys cant we all just get along
i wish instead of trying to take off random modifiers they would do actually good changes like fix there massive terrible lag issue how you gonna have a game barely anybody plays and still have terrible servers
i agree with this fruit guy lowkey
<@&1019888848773328936> having slowmode set to one message per hour sure feels like you don't actually want the community to discuss the game at all. Absolute 🃏 shit
Good luck on your stream. Thanks for supporting 
sdf doesnt wipe
this game is dog water now so sad
DUDE when they made damg do a lot more too u they fuck the game up with that
GAME IS DEAD 3k IN DUNGEON?!!??
we are under 4k players on steam
Yikes
sdf just needs to restart back 6 months ago
Wait I get one message AN HOUR?
see you guys in a hour
This is my one message per hour
Why did the game just get so ass bro i played for 2 dungeoins and got off, the loot tables are fucking terrible that was the only fun thing
Drops no work 🥺
I'm blowing my load for an hour
Terrible game now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gg’s y’all it’s been fun but it’s time for me to uninstall and drop a review saying this company don’t give a shit about their community 🫡
What does gear look like rn I cba to get on it looks so awful
since they took this game behind the shed and shot it, what other games would you guys recommend
purples are really hard to get from hr legendarys are impossible
1 hour delay???? i want discuss the new patch, but is hard say so bad he is and why when we have 1h delay msg, W VISION CENSOR player
dune
The longsword parry do seem to be a bit better, but some mob attacks are still phasing through the blade
my boyfriend and I both got the founders addition 🙂 im very upset about it now how much food I could have gotten instead 🙂
This game is awesome what’s with all the hate 🤪
first time playing in a couple months, what happened to item rolls? are they only on certain items now?
It actually is a good update people just hating for nothing
just looted a whole gold pile solo adnd didnt get anything but commons
Whats the timer here? 10 minutes as well?
If spam stays in the tavern instead of here, we will fix it 🙂
Gonna use my 1 hr CD to say that Steam Reviews are a great way to have your voice heard
Ok bub keep censoring
yep im goin to write my first steam review right now

No reason to play. There's no grind game ends after 3-4hrs of HR
Why trios only and then remove automatic teams?
What is the kill volume they mention in announcements?
I’m just here to ruin my one chat per hour
What do you mean?
It was fun to load into trios with randoms and runna dungeon, now you can’t even do that. Why do they keep taking everything fun out of the game
how ta fack i have to play it 1000000vs1?
You will have to wait an hour to hear his response.
anyone have a green inferno?
You have your pronouns unironically in your discord handle. Your opinion is invalid.
@gleaming patio i think they want us to use the Gathering hall to find people. cause random would team kill you right when the game would start
so i took a few months break, came back and now i cant play solos or duos and auto fill doesnt exist for the forced 3v3?
cool update, roll it back
theres no random modifiers so every item will be the exact same in their respective rarity, so no reason to grind and make your perfect build, cause all you will need is to find the highest rarity item you want and add it to your build. there is no uniqueness or special way to build your character besides trying different armor or weapons
Correct! Enjoy your 1v3 in your common gear that’s just as good as uniques! Hope you’re still motivated to play!
yoo this patch is insane it makes me wanna kill myself irl
so we just erasing content instead of adding it now?
so long sword plate fighter meta noted
I just can’t imagine the team working on the game and grinding for 2 years seeing it go down the drain for the ego of one guy with a vision
they arent smart
wish this was true but they werent using a vpn before when it wouldnt let them connect until they started using vpn
- 1 hour
- 1 hour
xd
Me when I have to go watch an entire movie before I can come back and make another comment
Yes lets remove gear stats again(almost killed the game last time), make it so everyone can break doors and have ttk be basically 0. Yes this is my medieval dungeoneering fantasy with mobs monsters and epic feeling loot, wait a sec this surely isn't a re-run of the roman colosseum with sdf as bootleg Ceasar. Surely not....
My man you need a better creativity or maybe you just aren't thinking cause this is what anyone and everyone woulda expected from these changes. Just make a balance system in terms of scaling via either class or stats for each que, its not that hard to differentiate between the ques (league does this with game modes sure bigger company but it can be done.) It'll take development time to make this newer system but its well worth it over killing your game and making yourself and your fans miserable because you can't deal with it.
wait why is sdf just removing everything from the game lol there will not even be perks or skills next patch i swear
People complain too much. Dark and Darker is one of the greatest medieval fantasy pvp games to ever come out. The servers are smooth and lobbies are full. Ironic how the playerbase are all 30+ yr old neckbeards who grew up spending $60 on games that never got updated.
We'll chuckle when all of the so called disgruntled streamers reinstall and come crawling back.
Fk streamers and their gear diff content farming. Fk complainers.
SDF is Thanos. Weeding out half of the unworthy pieces of garbage who do nothing but complain
Long live Ironmace. Long live SDF. Hold the line!
So there’s still no solo or duo q right?
people are still crying over the game with ZERO constructive critisism. YOURE BAD AT THE GAME and your sense of game balancing is TRASH just watch your favorite streamer play the game and log in and play stop crying
hes trying to turn it into pubg lmao, next patch the circle will be back and guns will be added
youre not real.
Low effort bait ngl
UPDATE SUCKS AINT NO LOOT WTF
im afriad for the future of this game
are the drops bugged
Hopped on after a month, played one game, hopped off lol. Same shit different day
Thanos eh...?
"What did it cost?"
"Everything"
Fuck this game
So glad there's no reason for me to grind anymore 😄
Yo hr boss drop blues, no red. Lol
5minutos delay HAHAHAHAHAHA
why I cant redeem my rewards of hr?
i miss dark and darker already
99.99% commends ale banned xD what a comunnist country, HOLD THE UNINSTAL
so many people are typing and just deleting there chat because they know its over lmao
solo que is no more?
might as well go play dungeon borne at this point lmao
I will give massive props for removing gear diff... it was the only way forward... beyond that change... everything else is stupid
"What is IRONMACE all about?
Our philosophy is 'Dream, Justice, Love'. We have big dreams for this game, and the response from our community was absolutely incredible! We intend to pour our hearts and souls into doing this game justice, and we love doing it!"
A direct quote from a post I'm sure gave us all hope that you would indeed do this game justice. Sadly, when you make changes as drastic as this, which PvP and PvE'rs collectively disagree upon, you can only hope that what is left in the ashes of the flames you've started is something salvagable. Good luck.
Salty players mad cause the game is not how they want it to be atm. SDF must be doing something right if yall are complaining more then gaming they are over 100+ games
on the market AND YALL CHOOSE TO BE MAD HERE LMAO
If yall love what dark and darker was. Please uninstall the game. We must protest.
Maybe because the game used to be good? Use brain?
so I join a game and I am killed because of my race. So sick of this racist game
One guy don't count
do purples and blues only drop in hr now? they nurfed the common loot so hard. it feels like adventure mode loot status.
They are censoring our messages now LOL
so whats the difference btw white and green gear, i mean same rolls, the only different thing i see is the colour
Bro purple gear means absolutely nothing
Act like loot matters now lol
This game is so sad. This is the worst update. It's absolutely boring, the no random modifiers was the dumbest decision ever made. No trios and having to figure out you have to hit Y. this is absolutely terrible sdf. I loved this game and you destroyed it. ggs
they reduced the time you can chat in this channel becuase of the spammers lmao. well im going to uninstall and leave the discord. Is aynone else sad to see it go?
bro you look at all the videos from the people who bring eyes to this game they are all shitting on this update like ive heard of devs favoring content creators and devs favoring the community but not listening to either is a crazy concept no?
im sooooo surprised that barb is one shotting plate fighters with a chest shot. who coudlve seen this coming?
Well said, could not agree more!
They won't be able to delete shit once the game turns into a ghost town
his brain no work to well. he only know use words like salty, complaining, and mad
how much crack a night do you think sdf puts away?
This is just a battle royale at this point
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they owe me at least my mone yback cus its not what i paid for, be fr.
Next wipe is the real rug pull water map gonna be dead like ice caves after a week
No wonder nexon fired these guys, they probably had this game waiting to be developed by someone competent before they stole and ruined it 😭 (not a nexon supporter)
Agreed there is no point to looting. I fell in love with this game and have over 2k hours. Just for them to ruin it WITH 1 UPDATE
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dont hate me but i actuallykinda like dark and darker
This patch may feel a little extreme but it's the most balanced the game has ever been gearwise and it will be toned down in a future patch. enjoy gear parity whilst you can
Iron mace really wiped our gear and said here's some bandages and potions
WHY CANT I CONNECT TO SERVER
I actually agree bc solo hr was filled w unique bis
Lol thats a huge L now loot means nothing. There's no creative.
Builds to express yourself or style. Its just a battleroyal now @radiant notch yeah no shit it was the end of the wipe. Removing geat stats completely is not the way to go its a lazy move
Please make it possible to voip through evil eye PLEASE @zinc sparrow
Good bye. I hope to see you all in the dungeon again some day.
idk how downs this company can be. its one thing to remove solos and duos (which was arguably the most mentally challenged move yet) but to remove match making is absolute brain rot
why is the gear so trash
what do you mean. your gear diff isnt expressing anything except how bad you are without gear....
@the_good_guy ah yes, League of Legend, the number 1 first person extraction shooter game in the market....
Hunt Showdown is also not a bad choice
450000 people joined this discord, 4K in game. Almost as much as the clouwn emojis on the patch note. Wipe successful, playerbase is gone.
MORE PEOPLE IN THIS DISCORD THEN THE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS DISCORD. 4k players in game on wipe 😭
this parch is shit
@glad thunder step down from your position
from all this outstanding feedback from the community cant wait to see if they double down like the backward swamp cretins these devs are
<@&1019888848773328936> got to love the fact that u want to duo that you get 3v2 all game and now 90% of the characters roster is now just bows cause now there more broken then ever range meta all the way guys
Sdf is doing an exit scam its all going according to plan
@glad thunder alleviate yourself from lead developer duties
Dark and darker was a pump and dump hope nexon takes all the money back and sdf rots in his little man cave
DO THEY EVEN READ THE MASSAGES AND TRY LTO UNDERSTAND?
mm I dont think so
Fuck SDF Fuck Graysun and Fuck IronMace
We have nothing to do with game development
We aren’t even IM employees
Pls fix game
bro this game has had some bad updates but this takes the cake fr
I never cared about gear diff because I wasn't bad at the game and would still out play people with better gear. But now you can't even make a build thats unique as far as play style. Gear means nothing now in a looting game lol. It has nothing to do with skill either. There is no combat skill in this game never has been. Only thing you have is spacing this isn't Chivalry
nexon, reopen the case pls
+1
+1
+1
THEY TEMP CHAT-BAN YOU IF YOU SAY @sdf SHOULD QUIT (r357gn, THEY CENSORED THE WORD HAHAHA)
Dark and Darker: Descending Into Its Deepest Darkness Yet
I never thought I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker was a beacon for gamers hungry for something bold. Its brutal dungeons, thrilling escapes, and intoxicating loot hunts drew in thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was an experience. Sneaking past monsters, outsmarting enemies, barely escaping with your life—it created unforgettable moments.
But now? Now it feels like we’re witnessing a slow, painful death.
The spark is gone. The lobbies once full of energy are quiet. The removal of solo and duo queues—core elements of the experience—has shattered the game for many. Trio-only lobbies were a blow to those who valued flexibility. Streamers have walked away, some pointing blame at the lead developer.
The gear system, once full of promise, has been gutted. Unique builds and creative strategies have been replaced by rigid metas. What once made adventurers feel different now feels the same.
Even worse are the broken promises. Features like quivers, new maps, and class variety were teased, only to vanish. The Discord server—once vibrant—is now a battlefield. Chants demanding leadership change echo throughout the community. A copy-and-paste revolt is underway, driven by a desperate player base.
All of this under the shadow of Ironmace’s recent legal loss. Financial strain, damaged reputation, and fading faith paint a grim picture. With sales dropping and hope running out, it’s hard to imagine a comeback.
This game meant something. It was something. But unless someone steps in to right the course, we may be watching the end.
It’s been a wild ride, but maybe it’s time to accept the truth: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name… not as a game, but as a memory, lost in the shadows.
If SDF is unwilling to part with the games direction, unfortunately I feel I must.
@zinc sparrow Since random modifiers are gone-why is the Goldsmith still in the game?
can everyone who is currently complaining about the update go negative review the game on steam to save our future peers from the tragedy we have faced
+1
This game is legitimately dead. It took this long for me to stop holding the line. GGs, boys.
@glad thunder u should be fired
corky moment here. OH DUH WHY DID WE LEAVE GOLDSMITH IN THE GAME
100 - 0'd by a single attack
2 shot by crossbows
HARHARHAR
@glad thunder step down from your position
This SDF pack is gonna smack so hard tonight
I waited a whole damn hour to send this
This shit sucks. so heres a mince recipe
beef mince, add to a pan, cook till brown, add 120ml beef stock, 10-20g tomato puree and taco seasoning (I like to buy it premade cause its pretty cheap but you can also make it yourself from scratch), serve with rice preferably cooked in beef stock (or vegetable stock if you want), grated cheese and guacamole. Amazing home made burrito bowl. I also like to add siracha but again thats a personal choice depends if you like spice or not
am i the only one who likes this patch?
Can we not claim our HR rewards for S6 yet?
bring back matchmaking
What's the timer on this chat lemme see this ridiculous way of trying to silence everyone
FAkE NEWS!!! Ironmace has been bought out by Microsoft
sdf r e s i g n
@glad thunder bruh
looooock iinnn
how the fuck am i supposed to play solo now
Was there like... any consensus on removing random matchmaking after removing solos and duos? I find it really hard to believe that multiple people thought that was a good idea.
@blissful dirge confiscate @glad thunder's crackpipe pls, he is losing it!
dude im so mad! I frickin loved this game... it was so much fun, everything I was looking for in a game and its honestly terrible now... crossbows over tuned, 3v1 all the time unless you pair with randos or somehow have butt buddies (but who has those, none of my friends like these types of games)...
I dont understand the vision... help me understand
u dont
SDF scammed us, i wanted and bought solo extraction game but the devs are trash
this is the worst patch i have ever seen....
ironmace def tryna kill the game since they r still getting sued
BRING BACK SOLO/DUO, BRING BACK RANDOM MOD
You are a bunch of COWARDS setting the SPAM ALLOWED channel to a ONE HOUR TIMER
Use your abillity to leave a review to express your opinion of the game. Steam reviews cannot be deleted.
I know right no solo queue for even high roller is crazy! Legit nothing I can do now, everygame is just crazy 1v3's. I feel the meta is so different too, so many playstyles I liked in solo cant be used in 3v3's 😦 @stiff ember @fair lintel I also tried to use the "shake someones hand" thing to join their team and they literally just came running at me to kill me, I even used my mic
they can slow mode timer everyone for hours at a time, the comments aren't going to stop. this is funny
@zinc sparrow @glad thunder @blissful dirge like you shouldve just rug pulled us when the game was at its peak it honestly wouldve been a better outcome
report the game on steam, they lost the court case for IP theft to nexon and are scamming us on a “early release” game. Report and get it unlisted.

Power tripping mods timer check
I like this update
Am I tripping or are there no duos or trios now?
crazy how they be censoring chat now
youre the only one
As a solo player, this is the worst the game has ever felt. What a shame. Goodbye Dark and Darker
not everyone can have good taste, clearly u have an awful taste
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
so many drama queens in here
So loot is worthless therefore gold is worthless therefore the end game is worthless? What is the point? 30% of your player base plays 3v3 so it’s a good idea to force everyone into this queue? We went from holding the line to holding a 1H timer on the games general chat? What is the point besides intentionally sabotaging your game for the exit strategy. Who is holding the bag?
3.5k in dungeon after a wipe and drops on... wow
why even sell a game to people if it wasnt what you invisioned? they actually scammed us for years
they need to give more drops and reward tokens to revive the game tbh
give everyone named items for free atp
I tried liking the new patch, they actually ruined the game ngl. Ggz until they revert see yall in a month
Damn fellas just play the game how it is or don’t lmao the crying is unreal
Someone should steal the game files and make it called "poorly lit and more poorly lit", then actually put effort into developing the game. I feel like the community still exists that would play it
GG y’all 🫡
cheat and cheater is back !
Oh how the mighty have fallen, I feel so sorry for anyone holding up this burning building of a game. GGs
Man, its the fact people payed money for the game that they are upset. Ofc we can go to many many different better games, but spending money on something and then getting the whole thing trashed almost intentionally is what is upsetting people the most. They are essentially changing the genre of the game. I personally only bought it for solo
Sooo i have to go in solo or come to discord to find a random team when my friends aren't on? ... and HR, i'll only play when my friends are on.. Got it.. uninstall
Actually rough asf out there in the dungeons smh
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this game is turning into medieval pubg mobile
absolutely terrible decision to nerf common lobby loot, get rid of being able to load in with friends and HOPE the barb you see charging at you wants to group up with you. Absolutely terrible update. No random modifiers and a nerfed loot table makes the game boring. We didnt want this update and you forced it on us. this will surely kill the game
pathetic with no rolls xd
6k player KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK gj everyone
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
100%
how do you group up in game ? i havent seen it in the keybinds
3k are bots so
<@&1019888848773328936> can you turn the timer down its a fucking general chat like if they can pull some fucking shit ideas out of @glad thunder crack pipe we should atleast be able to talk about them
Bro I need to get some of SDF's drug
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
here’s a idea
-add solos back
-lessen damage on all bows
-put one random multi on each gear peice like this
-common 0
-uncommon 1-2 percent
- rare 2-4 percent
-epic 4-6 percent
-legendary 6-8 percent
- unique 8-10 percent
-lower barb weapon damage or put the health back to how it was
-give a random stat as damage you do to pve
Wait so you can be in teams? if you join a party in the lobby???? But if I solo queue I'm stuck in solos
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
Anyone have "Failed to connect" error? I tried everything, restarting, reinstalling, verifying file integrity
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
Yo I might be late to this but trying to get back into dark and darker but I bought the game on chaf games and havent played since release, saying migration has ended? There a way around this if anyone knows?
I can lower this chat timer once the spam dies down here
NotLikeThis, he has a great vid
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
maybe you should moderate the spam cause i would like to get a discussion out within a 10 minute time span
Please move this to #the-tavern
We do we get to claim the high rollers cosmetics?
here’s a idea
-add solos back
-lessen damage on all bows
-put one random multi on each gear peice like this
-common 0
-uncommon 1-2 percent
- rare 2-4 percent
-epic 4-6 percent
-legendary 6-8 percent
- unique 8-10 percent
-lower barb weapon damage or put the health back to how it was
-give a random stat as damage you do to pve
I cant see stats of item IG its normal or im buged ?
havent played in a long time, first time back and im plagued with preformance issues. any time i get in the same moduel as anybody else my game goes to like 10 frames
Why did they kill the game for solo players???
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
Please move this to #the-tavern
everyone spamming this is cringe AF
Don't bother. People spamming aren't going to stop so chats will open up and the spam hides the endless stream of actual negative comments from unique users.
i agree the spamming is an emotional outburst and cringe. i was wondering, how do i add people to a party in match? i didnt see it in keybinds
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Fucking moronic devs lol I have never seen a wipe so dead. So dead that it feels like the game was stolen 
why
Ladies and gentlemen, players and critics alike... let’s be honest with each other.
What we are witnessing is not just a game struggling to find balance. It’s a community unraveling. Not because of patches or balancing issues, but because we’ve stopped aiming higher... and started turning on each other.
The general chat, once a place of strategy, camaraderie, and shared passion, has become a graveyard of complaints, finger-pointing, and empty noise. We don't talk with each other anymore, we talk at each other. We've traded insight for outrage, and wonder for bitterness.
Everyone wants someone to blame. The devs. The player base. The meta. the monotization, etc. But no one wants to take responsibility for being part of the solution.
Let me be clear: complaining is not feedback.
Blame is not a strategy.
And rage is not leadership.
You don’t need to be a developer to offer value. You don’t need a platform to lead. You need perspective, clarity, and the courage to speak truth, even when it’s uncomfortable.
This community had the potential to be something legendary. But legends aren’t built on salt and sarcasm. They’re built on vision, on players willing to do more than just play. Players willing to build.
So I ask everyone here: Are we here to destroy this game with our own cynicism.. or fight for the version we know it can be?
Because if we keep shadowboxing each other in the dark…
There won't be anything left to come back to.
Fuck this game bro. We need better game than this one with better devs.
CHICKEN JOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No the community is unraveling because they dont listen
Does anyone know how to proceed with a chaf games migration, apparently its ended and theres no support on their website anymore lmao, will I just have to buy the game again?
4,280
players right now
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
easily they can nerf high roller mobs, bring back solo/duo/trios
Numbers are looking nice and healthy, player count BUSTLING from ~3K. Hold the L(ine)!!!
Oh man! It's the first message I can type for the next HOUR... hopefully I don't waste it!. Ah shit this joke doesn't work anymore they changed it smdh
the former
I will blaim, cause they ruined their own game, i loved this game. NOW the game is piece of scrap, i will play mindseye to get better experience. ( for low IQ humans, it was a joke)
Just fuck this game now. I regret that I ever put money into this game 🚽 🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽
Does anybody else like getting one tap headshot by nightmare crossbowman with no audio queu? Anybody? $BrianDedDevs
Has the Season Ended?
Why haven't I received the HighRoller Rank rewards?
I LOVE IT SO MUCH that i uninstalled this crap game cause they only make it worse
Wipe hype died so fast
Yeah its weird because I could've sworn the game is from South Korea, but I must've confused that with North
who is brian?
devs this is horrible. stop letting sdf ruin this game and speak up. this patch will 100% kill the game. patch dropped and theres 5k people on. your playerbase is gone.
Seeing the Great Schism Part 2 for this community is crazy. a full hour slowdown time is ridiculous
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
The game is so bad now
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
Good luck if you are solo going to any boss btw
Still not sure how SDF looked at this on paper and went, yeah, this is it.
stupid nerf of sorcener and druid. don't touch the game if you don't know what you do
bro sorc is so bad rn lol
this games dog now
This game doo doo.
@rancid lichen @zinc sparrow
If you two know the developer in person or on the phone.
Tell them they've fucked this up.
They made a game that was a 9/10 into a 0/10 in one fell swoop thinking it was all a brilliant idea.
But it wasn't, you killed the game and you'll probably never get it back.
this is such a stupid ass way to play the game lmfao
Man I wish Nexon won
CLearly Our voices are being suppressed. We must Not give in to this censorship! see u in an hr
ok, I change my mind, I'm already bored
game is cooked
@glad thunder Youre cooked man and your game is cooked. Noone here is happy, and you clearly cant solve it. Hand the game to someone else before you burn it to the ground.
No fucking way the arena rating system carried over, so glad i cant queue with my premade 3 stack 11!!!1!!!1!
Is chat cooldown an hour bro?
brother if you want to disagree please actually critique the idea of different scaling or class numbers for diff ques for different ques rather than just shitting on it cause its a diff genre
#NexonSaveUs
Does SDF not get panic attacks going into work everyday, knowing full well that his "vision" is killing the game we all love? Knowing his coworkers don't respect him for his horrible decision making and driving their job security off a cliff? How the fuck does this dude sleep at night knowing he's single handedly ruining dozens of employees livelihood, and killed thousands of supporters love of this game?
when do statics spawn now
love when they add things and dont think it through like quick draw firing out of the teamup thing
Man I'd say pull the plug on the life support for the game but SDF already old yeller-ed it
i cant lie , getting one shoted by a skeleton axe is something
how do you form a party in the dungeon?
Lowkey even tarkov is better and its all cheaters playing it like dark and darker is so crap like bro just leave the game as it is and bring solos and duos and trios
lol
Easy, you be a sociopath, boom no empathy there you go.
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
id play tarkov over DaD, and id play stardew valley with a desire for an adrenaline rush before i get bothered enough to go back to tarky
dont worry ill fix the game
thanks my king
gaba goo
oh snap the king is here
1 movement speed epic lantern BIS AF
Currently, I believe there are a lot of players who don't want to go into dungeons anymore.
(Loot value balance) and (gear strength gap) are connected. If some equipment is very good, it's value as loot will also be very high. This is why we are willing to enter dungeons, for reward and value. Players want to get emotional and economic value out of the game, such as good equipment, kills, a good fight, or the fun of searching for treasure.
However, it is clear that this change has caused many players to be reluctant to enter dungeons, as the current value of dungeon gear is very low for players from last season. Just as society has seen a lot of people not wanting to work because of the low returns, people will opt out of the environment. People will opt out of the environment and go elsewhere, such as playing other games.
@glad thunder Thanks for ruining good game.
the gear drops are so dookie now my lord
even if they were good they barely even matter
they for some reason raised the armor rating on gear but then made the pdr you get less
No loot no fun no health wtf this game is genuinely garbage
im gonna find sdf on the street soon guys chill
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is the twitch drops not working for anyone else
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
Best analysis I've seen of the current patch.
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i love this dove-hawk game. great job dev
yes it seems like time watching is not accumulating
This is the most Korean and Chinese players I’ve seen criticize the game in here or tavern. Sdf is uniting the world
BIGGEST RUG PULL
Doesnt hurt with all the investments SDF recieved in order to move their server providers over there.
CHICKEN JOCKEY!!!
crazy how all of the sdf worshippers have been proven wrong now
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ngl arena is fun rn
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add pregnant goblins and the game will be fixed
i miss the random modifiers they actually made the loot feel fun
guys i havent played in forever, is the game fun now, or is it horribly unbalanced again
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A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
So yall reset triumph levels but DIDNT GIVE US THE SHARDS???
haha adventure mode main means pvp changes are irrelevant
enjoy those grey/white loot items
Who tf put the delay timer to 5 minutes ?!
"ahahaha im shit ahahaha"
Gg, the game can close now, its dead, new patch, no new content, only devolving the game and take out the remaining good thing about the game,
Have fun with looting in normal and getting the gray treasures and legendary 6 knowledge leather Chausses, but this is ass, pls sdf AT LEAST put back again the latest patch, cus this is abnormally shit, i mean you did it few times already, but you have to get fired or smth.
Or else, im fine if you giving my money back for my cosmetic transition and the legendary pack transition, because its not that game that i used to pay..
Gg, have fun for those who like this patch, im out until game get fixed.
dungeon stalkers is shit too skimpy and bad gameplay dad is wayyy better
So do we all agree that SDF have to go now?
file for bankruptcy so you don't have to pay the 5.9m
5 mins go
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
if u play pve ur shit
Y4mi actively talking shit about the game with sdf in chat LMFAO

Oof this update
how is it even possible to fuck up this much
@glad thunder r e s i g n
Leave a negative steam review on the way out everyone!!!
this update is so ass
too all the people out there who might feel the same , I loved you dark and darker but I didn’t even bother booting up the game this patch I just knew it was going to be bad , thanks for the memories there is truly no hope for this game . Your number one Cleric Main - DiddUPray2Day
is there still gem slotting?
Official SDF Announcement – June 25, 2025
We’ve heard your concerns, and we want to assure you: we are ignoring them.
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The Truth Behind the Chaos – Brainworm Confirmed
After months of erratic decision-making, it’s official: SDF, our lead developer, has brainworm. This condition makes terrible ideas feel like brilliant ones. Recent symptoms include:
• Removing Solos and Duos:
SDF called these beloved modes “a crutch for antisocial players.” Now, everyone is forced into squads with random teammates who will likely kill you faster than the enemies.
• Deleting Stat Rolls:
All gear now has static stats, making common loot as strong as legendary items. As a result, the Goldsmith, designed to use raid gems to enhance gear, is now utterly useless.
• Rollback to Patch 69:
Against all advice, SDF reinstated the infamous Patch 69, a disaster that earned the game its Mostly Negative Steam reviews. He insists this patch was “ahead of its time.”
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New Features and Non-Features
• Daily Progression Resets:
Characters and loot now reset every 24 hours. According to SDF: “This is the ultimate balance.”
• Content Tease Cycle:
• The Nightmare Castle Raid will be live for 8 hours before vanishing forever.
• Merchants have been replaced with “Pray for Loot” circles where you hope for items to magically appear.
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What This Means for You
• All bug reports now generate the automated response: “Skill Issue. L + Cope.”
• In his final act of sabotage, SDF deleted the game’s trailer, ensuring no new players will ever find the game.
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Thank you for enduring another brainworm-fueled day at Ironmace.
Yours in misery,
The Ironmace Team
stop complaining, yall just need to get good. This update is peak.
imagine a McDonalds employee quits his job and decides to make his own burger shop and even though it initally only has 1 burger it becomes on of the most celebrated burger spots in the past decade and eventually they add a few more menu items that people enjoy. but then imagine you go there one day and order your usual and the owner says. actually we don't have that anymore in fact we only have one burger right now and it only has onions. and when you ask why. when he sees the data that at least 66% of his customers aren't in favor of this change, the owner says " because thats how i like it, this is my vision of a good burger, here lets try my vision together!
Hell yeah stoked to hop in the dungeon
anyone playing arena?
"1 gorilla vs 449999 Human video ahhh" comment
this is the best update yet
It's fun as a solo I have to 3rd party team fights all the time and then get killed by the good player its fun
Here's what's gonna happen:
Patch #88: rollback to patch 86
Patch #89: rollback to patch 69
Patch #90: rollback to patch 87
Patch #91: Barb's Base Strength +5
@glad thunder @zinc sparrow yall gonna write a memoir on how to kill a game in less than 60 days? ass hats
nah, i don't want rollback. this patch is great
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
found sdf's alt account
are the drops not working for anyone else
i honestly think if they just announced what content they do have planned for pt7 alongside this patch, it wouldn’t be so poorly received. or it would drive people away now. but because the patch is like a setup patch for next wipe and it feels like shit, and we have nothing to feel hopeful for or look forward to, people are coming for heads.
"You just want to play Valorant?"
--Three of the more prominent DaD streamers 💀
GOODNIGHT
yeah, if someone announced there would be physical beatings in real life, it would be way worse than if it was a suprise beating. The dread of anticipating a terrible experience makes it worse lol
can you still gem slot whoever answers gets 1 million dollars
yes
is pve gone too?\
The manual matchmaking is unreal
GUYS WE MUST STICK TOGETHER AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME DONT LOG IN DONT UP THE PLAYERCOUNT LET THIS SHIT CRUMBLE UNTIL THEY STOP FUCKING US ANG GIVE US WHAT WE WANT INSTEAD OF THESE GAME RUINING UPDATES
how do u even get in a team anymore?
sdf sent us a 'survey' but turns out they couldn't care less 🙄
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🏴☠️
**Gather round the lantern, lads, and pinch yer tongues, for what I whisper now is pure nightmare. ** — There was a crew called IronMace, bold as thunder, who hauled a cavern of gold aboard their frigate and drank till the moon looked drunk herself. Yet their captain, Salazar Doom-Fathom—S.D.F.—stood at the helm with eyes like empty graves. Vision had wormed into his skull.
Past midnight he spun the wheel and smashed our proud ship against reef-fangs once, twice; planks screamed, men bawled. “Gold is safe where no lungs can breathe,” he hissed. We rushed him—cutlasses, ropes, fists—but his pistol spat fire, and courage curdled. Water gushed through ruptured oak; treasure chests cracked, spilling coins that clinked like wicked laughter.
Still Doom-Fathom cackled, steering for the sharpest rocks. The third collision split the keel, snapping the mast like a matchstick. Longboats shattered; comrades vanished beneath black froth; glittering riches spiraled downward, a mockery of fortune. As the sea swallowed captain, crew, and coin alike, his final howl echoed: “Mine forever!”
Remember the name IronMace, cursed as barnacles on these boards forever. Mark the moral, mates: gold may dazzle, but madness weighs heavier. Keep your wits or share IronMace’s tomb beneath the waves.
how is arena?
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named arena
are the drops not working for anyone else? I'm conncted and not getting them
the only kinda cool thing is that if you wanna play as a rat its kinda easy now
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
RIP WIZARDS
i'm still rather new to the game how do i take less damage from the ghost king scream? he basically oneshots me
First of all, I have no intention of disrespecting any PVE or PVP players.
However, from the perspective of gameplay alone, the PVE content of this game is fixed. After you have mastered the methods of dealing with each monster, will you choose to enter the HR mode to practice against more powerful monsters or continue to be a monster-killing machine in the PVE mode?
Another question is, will you look for treasures or open boxes to seek equipment in the PVE mode? If so, why are you unwilling to enter the HR mode to challenge more powerful monsters and seek more valuable loot? Or is it that for you, PVE mode is fun as long as you kill monsters? I believe that some people will feel fun from killing monsters and can vent their emotions.
But if the PVE content is over (novice stage), won’t entering the HR mode to challenge more powerful monsters have more sense of accomplishment?
My personal understanding of the game is that the value of gold coins is linked to the value of equipment. If the value of equipment decreases, people will think that the value of gold coins has decreased, and will stop getting more when they feel that it is enough, because at that time the gold coins will become worthless.
I don't know whether the fun of PVE players is to explore the game content or to find loot (in a relatively safe situation). But I think the changes to the equipment in the game will also affect PVE players, but the impact is not significant.
why is everyone so hostile, i keep trying to team with ppl and they immediately shoot me
5 minute cooldown to stop criticism is crazy
Yall like the new damage?
hell no
i think they should buff bows/crossbows tbh
My frocking vision 🥀💔
what do we do with gems now?
what the fk is this poop on the ceiling
I like being a solo and only being able to play trio. I like how all gear is the exact same now and there’s no such thing is a good roll. I like how I instantly get two shot because of the new health. I like the devs not responding and keeping everyone in the dark. I when the devs don’t listen to their community and actively try to nuke their own game! I like it guys!
so are they trying to lose money? why not listen to what makes your game good?
It's already been proven a week ago these youtubers collaberated together to attack ironmace and spread fake news and info around the game. NotLikethem has sent their toxic troll base here to divide and sew division in the community
Am I alone in feeling like loot overall has had a DRASTIC reduction in quality? I am finding grey and white in 9/10 situations. I'm sure this has to do with all the uh... rebalancing... but it is frustrating
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pure hubris and narcissism
Official SDF Announcement – June 25, 2025
We’ve heard your concerns, and we want to assure you: we are ignoring them.
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The Truth Behind the Chaos – Brainworm Confirmed
After months of erratic decision-making, it’s official: SDF, our lead developer, has brainworm. This condition makes terrible ideas feel like brilliant ones. Recent symptoms include:
• Removing Solos and Duos:
SDF called these beloved modes “a crutch for antisocial players.” Now, everyone is forced into squads with random teammates who will likely kill you faster than the enemies.
• Deleting Stat Rolls:
All gear now has static stats, making common loot as strong as legendary items. As a result, the Goldsmith, designed to use raid gems to enhance gear, is now utterly useless.
• Rollback to Patch 69:
Against all advice, SDF reinstated the infamous Patch 69, a disaster that earned the game its Mostly Negative Steam reviews. He insists this patch was “ahead of its time.”
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New Features and Non-Features
• Daily Progression Resets:
Characters and loot now reset every 24 hours. According to SDF: “This is the ultimate balance.”
• Content Tease Cycle:
• The Nightmare Castle Raid will be live for 8 hours before vanishing forever.
• Merchants have been replaced with “Pray for Loot” circles where you hope for items to magically appear.
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What This Means for You
• All bug reports now generate the automated response: “Skill Issue. L + Cope.”
• In his final act of sabotage, SDF deleted the game’s trailer, ensuring no new players will ever find the game.
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Thank you for enduring another brainworm-fueled day at Ironmace.
Yours in misery,
The Ironmace Team
Is slowmode 10 minutes here too?
dont you dare make fun of papa sdf like that ever again 😡 😡 😡
game dc constantly the past few days for anyone else? still in game but cant control char
how do u win
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
Actually ruined the freaking game
I gotta say, well done sdf. I wish I could've brainstormed the genius idea of removing the "loot" from the loot extraction game. What a W approach that suggest the longevity of an exciting gameplay loop that keeps people coming back.
sooooooo. were full legendary and deleted the entirely of oce as duo. now what?? sdf we're bored.
Honestly? I'm here for hot monster fighting action in an immersive setting/environment. PvP disinterests me, because of how clunky it is. Conqueror's blade provides better hack and slash. Fighting games ala street fighter or blazblue provide better skillful melee. Classic fps or battle royales are more thrilling loot kill escape experiences. Does it get repetitive? Sure, but it's relaxing and blows off stress.
hey when will i get rewards from the previous season?
hello
I’m having so much fun getting one shoted by barbs and kits having 0 value. I love this vision. Range weapons are so strong
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RIPPPPP WIZARDDDDD
we all have to come together and fix the game together by torching sdf's 🏡
hop a vpn over to asia and delete them too
Removing random modifiers makes playing the game pointless. No point in looting gear means nothing now. Pvp? For what? There's no reward if gear means nothing. Pve? For what to get the same items you find laying around. Extract with all the gear you found? For what it's pointless. Its just a battleroyal now. This isn't a dungeon crawling extraction game anymore at all
Fortnite and Fortniter
Not disagreeing but didn't they also state that they were doing this change to fix the gear attributes and bring it back (genuinely curious)
we got to enjoy the game nexon brought to us and now it’s over the game is finally gonna die
Nice
Guys yall are hating, this lowkey might be top3 patches. Loot feels great, gear gap is fixed, desync is gone. Ranged damage is ontop again, OP classes are nerfed. SDF lowkey cooked and everyone here is coping...
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
Yea i was thinking the exact same thing too
stop hacking chinese boy,
@forest linden Interesting name lmfao.
"lets buff damage and get rid of hp" WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME
Everyone crying cause the game is skill based now?
sdf doesn’t want to listen to the community or share his vision with everyone, he wants to impose his bland version of the game.
anyone know sdf's real name?
2/10 ragebait try harder
I gotta say, well done sdf. I wish I could've brainstormed the genius idea of removing the "loot" from the loot extraction game. What a W approach that suggest the longevity of an exciting gameplay loop that keeps people coming back.
Didn’t even realize 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
not ragebait he's right. whole games not a merchant power no more.
thanks @glad thunder for shitting the bed on this update
lmfao
@glad thunder said he wanted to make his own PUBG, and he meant it.
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wow the patch KICKS ASS i'm having so much fun!
SDF = Stole Da Files
W patch. You all just can’t see the vision.
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
This patch was actually a great push forward but you guys will cry about anything it seems atp
thanks guys for making me touch grass & be more social
sdf's vision
Well is it useless if we buy some item in a trader now?
@glad thunder r e s i g n
you guys as in 80-90% of the player base lol?
if you can't kill a bis kit guy with a decent kit, you have skill issues bud. Game is too easy now. I kill 3 hobo like you and got nothing 😄
BRO I HAD ALL PURPLE IN NORMALS AND STILL LOST TO A GUY IN SQUIRE LIKE THIS IS UNBALANCED IM NOT THAT SHIT
colored gear dosent do anything
Imagine complaining about random modifiers then
complaining about them being removed
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
Even WoW was more advanced at launch, what are you talking about? Haha
If gear is more equal and you died to someone... did you not just self report yourself as needing to be carried by gear? 
Finally someone has the timeline.
has anyone been able to claim their high roller rewards?
patch 92 daggers get a +2, a +1, and a -5 damage buff. servers will be down 18 hrs on that one
range and ranger is fucking cancer
L patch
Listen close, you sea-dogs, to the doom of IronMace. Their frigate, the Dark & Darker, once glittered with plunder enough to dazzle kingdoms. Yet at its wheel stood Captain Skull Daggerfang—S.D.F.—a visionary whose sight rotted into madness. He spun the helm with every whim, shattering maps, ignoring pleas, and steering straight into fog no compass could pierce.
When the Nexon Fleet roared “Stolen charts!” and blasted them from Steam’s grand port, Daggerfang laughed, slipping his cargo through outlaw torrents while letting the hull split. Crew bled away. The Inventory Master leapt first, leaving holds in chaos. Soma the herald was cast adrift after eleven months and seven paltry hours of audience. Chronicler Jaygriffuh, weary of patchwork disasters, followed.
No quivers were woven, no fresh steel forged, wizards’ grimoires were gutted, while the captain fattened his pet barbarians on double grog. Each new patch punched fresh leaks; the deck now tilts, treasure rusts, morale drifts like flotsam. Still Daggerfang grips the wheel, eyes glazed with “vision.”
Heed the lesson, lads: when a captain’s ego swallows his sense, quit the crew. Gold means nothing in Davy Jones’ pocket. Leap to a lifeboat before the lunatic drags you under.
has everyone just accepted the game is dead at this point?
yes
bring back gear that's op af
yo rogue is chalked no?
The ambience is gone. Feels like a BR. I shouldnt run into 10 teams in a run to inferno, they are dungeons, they arent meant to be populated like that. The game has turned into a skill based battle royale. And if you are into that, dope this patch for you, but I personally fell in love with the way the game felt early on. I know Im bad at this game anyway, but now I cant even casually enjoy it.
Ranger is wild with 88 health being the norm
new update is great yall are fucking noobs
Legendarily based pirate
Another one? Nice
huge hype for new dark and darker season, be sure to ignore and report anything negative you hear because it's based off of bad faith conversations and lies to attack SDF. fans know whats going on, real people will do what's right and stand up for IronMace and Developers
why simp
I just dropped a dookie that was better developed than this patch
ooh white knight save me, hows sdf taste
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
is there any point in playing this game anymore? they removed anything worth grinding for and now its just a slop feast of barbs insta killing you because hp was nerfed
After giving arena some play the arena with no modifiers is nice. I have not played norms or high roller but arena feels fair and fun
Wtf happened to the match making. What is this
Lmao you are my example childish
anyone knows what happened to random attributes?
@glad thunder put down the drugs and your crystal ball and r e s i g n
they were removed from gear
yall dont understand this update is actually really good
it made me realize i should be grateful for my life outside of this computer
but if patch 68 came back out i would forsake it all
im curious, do they genuinely not test the changes before they implement? in particular the numbers balance? like the fuck are they doing
Just shut down the servers. Basic servers with artifact limits, getting ABSOULTELY SHIT ON already.
Please bring back random parties
so is rogue still playable fr or is it ass now?
Somewhat okay changes. Modifiers need to be back in for sure just remove move speed and get rid of the shit rolls no one wants. Instead of having 4 on a legendary do 3 if you want the gear to not be so op. Rogue didn’t need to be nerfed into oblivion like this he was one of the best boss characters. Just nerf hide not his dmg!
i would maybe play arena but it’s just not gonna be fun with no ability to build at all really
They're probably bad, so it suits them
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀 THIS
Oh wow a wipe? There's SSF after the wipe right? I was really looking forward to trying SSF last time but missed it. Can't wait to find some cool gear with good rolls myself and use it!
Why play arena when you can just queue normals and battle in the center of the map for no rewards anyways?
Most people. "I wanna go peacefully in my sleep" d a d fans. Just scroll up
thats cute tho keep simping for some shitty dev who wants this game gone, your just more money in his pocket
everyone needs to see NotLikeThis 's content
so all you can think of is solo duo changes? thats the big end point for you? when multiple games have team based gameplay?
that wasnt a micro O_O
Why would anyone want to willingly watch that grifting jester?
Y'all are wylin. Jeez. It's a new takeover. Just see where it leads. If it gets worse, we will find a new game. If it gets better, then at least we struggle-bussed through it.
Lmao one i havnt even bought the game and two you keep proving my point you guys are child's
we already did that like 8 times. it led to record low player counts.
ngl dark and darker is going down a sorry path and if im going to play a slop feast Id rather play something that has SOME content so anyone got any recommendation on a cool game?
any other game, Elden ring is good
Do we still q with people in arena
DID ITEMS LOOSE BONUSES OR SMTH? I don't see any bonus pieces
God the base rolls on everything just fees like ASS
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
maybe we can get nexon to sue and take the game back
Read the patch notes
Imagine removing the looting and the point to pvp from a looting pvp focused extraction game... i guess the next step is to introduce base building so we dont have to extract? We were the clnws all along...
make dark and darker an open world mmo
It's possible they no longer have the brainpower on their team to handle random stat balancing in the future, hence their balancing issues..
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
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it’s crazy that hundreds of us could post this and tag them and spam it and they still just won’t even address the problem directly
People complaining about solos being removed are just losers who are afraid of social interactions.
Currently on ROCKET LEAGUE watching chat and being entertained between games
dude even the people that you need to watch on twitch to get their drops like yami are saying the game doesnt really feel fun anymore and that there isnt anything to grind towards and that theyd rather play valorant like go look at his steam and tell me if it looks like they are having fun they sound miserable and he looks like hes in hell
bro this loot is dog sht
what theres no duos or trios, your by yourself
Squire = bis
you no longer random q with people
@chilly bluff @main plume you guys need to chill my guys you been in here chugging off ironmace for over 7 hours. Seriously put the phone down.
Says the guy who only plays in trios or hugs the walls every match.
We were the clwns all along. Gg wp
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
hi
Why yall wasting your time on this jester? He’s obviously rage baiting, if you fall for the bait then you’re no better than him
GAMES IS BROKE AF WITHOUT A PARTY FILL>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dude I see more name calling and my feelings are hurt then I see actually feedback lmao
Sup
ofc yami is complaining. Hes not even a good player in DaD. Him and his trogoldyte streamer friends need to get better at the game and stop relying on gear/handouts to win pvp.
Is it true they put a hour timer because they don’t want people criticizing this patch? I just got done playing a few hours and uninstalled after a nightmare crossbowman killed me from across the map while I was wearing epics and legendaries that had vigor and strength on them. I was full health. Didn’t matter. This game isn’t worth anyone’s time testing. SDF should never be allowed to work in this industry ever again.
people are crying but dont even know whats wrong with the game
people want solos and duos back but dont even know why they removed them
people in chat defend dnd but the apes who perma fight in bandaid pot lobbies just think "you sdf simp you dumb"
gaming is dying stop crying about everygame you play
@bright latch youre just very ignorant with no good opinions or any constructive critisism. keep being a sheep lil bro 
fuck @glad thunder
W sdf mindset kappa
Yeah. Now Legacy, expedition into darkness, chroma tower, dungeon stalkers. All better than this crap. Bye
Just telling you take a break my man. I can see you are falling apart
lol robins right take a chill pill
We were the clwns all along. Gg wp
And you, stop waiting for every game to be casualized just so you can rank higher than silver.
dont forget midnight walkers A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
NO PARTY FILL WILL RUIN IT .I.
then go ahead and tell us whats so good about this update with solos and duos being removed if you arent able to play with friends you have no choice but to play agaisnt trios and if you go in the discord and look for a group most people just unique and not in a good way and with attributes being removed your no longer able to make up for anything your class lacked pretty much everything in this game can be and will be 1 tapped by a barb and ranger and with the loot nerf theres no point in even fighting for loot before this game was a LOOT EXTRACTION GAME but whats the point in fighting over loot if its just the same exact garbage not to mention it seems kinda like the devs played favorites with certains classes making others very much a better pick then everything else (barbs)
youve had my name in your mouth for 4 hours i typed like 4 messages i get youre slow but come on lil bro 😂 stop crying so much and buy a second monitor brokie
brother some people just want to hop on and play(solos). Some people like solos meta better. Some people just like to chill and do their own thing and not be sweaty in trios.
can you take all gear into normals nopw?
chat i just unistall the game i dident have 2 boyfriends to play with good luck
Dude holy just wow this community is literally children name calling
It's not even fun if you did, so don't worry. Patch is pretty upsetting tbh, even with friends.
yo what y4mi is the
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i haven't seen a fumble this big since "2 weeks to kyiv"
loot needs a buff
when he said random modifiers were being removed i felt like gem socketing should've stayed
Yes, let me socket vigor on my tattered cloak and have it evolve into a vigilant cloak
i miss dark and darker
All they are doing is removing most of the stuff they added during this wipe it doesn't make sense
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
bring back random match making
As I stated the game has fallen off because of sdf's vision and the coming changes, I was told time and time again by the pole riders that "everyone was just waiting for mid wipe" lmao. Well guess what, guess you were wrong about that. Imagine losing players during wipe-hype lol tragic
Written by AI btw
if you still think "barb op best class" especially after this patch youre bad at the game lol demonlock def best class rn and was still one shotting things last wipe 😵 also did you even read the patch notes on grouping? lmaooo? u seem to not know anything
this a low elo take my guy
yeah honestly ive never seen a game go backwards so fast in 3-4 months this is stupid as hell, CAN I GET A 1+ IF YOU THINK THE GAME IS MOVING BACKWARDS #FIRE @glad thunder
ngl gang you should probably put that server boost to a better use this server seems to be going under
solos was the reason i loved this game. i remeber the og goblin caves, when solos first launched, that game so amazing then, lets go back, stop killing the game
There is no reason to not give gear more stats the higher in rarity it goes especially since MODIFIERS WERE REMOVED. Why does white to green gear ONLY GAIN 1 ARMOR. SDF needs to disappear.
Going to bed hopefully ill wake up with sdf out of his own ass
people are just ditching the team to go do quests, this is a**
-90% Sheesh
We were the clwns all along. Gg wp
Can't force people to play trios that never wanted to.
the update is good, you guys never seem to be happy about anything. its fun to make teams in the dungeon, and the gear modifier is bad but honestly it makes the game more skillbased and balanced.
the only thing i cant stand is tkaing out solos
on the bright side at least all the gold farmers will be out of business in like 2 weeks when the play count reaches a big ole 150, good play @glad thunder i see you
only 27% positive reviews on steam in a month span for dark and darker ive quite literally never seen that before on a game LOL such trash devs
Is teaming in hr allowed now bc of the changes? I’m guessing it is since making teams in game is a thing so if you are a solo or duo and run into other solos or duos team up against the trios NO BANS
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀 THIS
They not only removed the ques but also removed the matchmaking so we have to now group up in discord or something else prior, why take away the ability to join random groups and play more? He wants this game to die apparently
This loot system simple dont make sense, i saw blue pieces as "good" as white ones i already had
Eh doesn't change anything fr I just got it to send an emoji to this one guy in booster chat 😎
loot needs a buff
when is this game going to shut down
I give it a month lol
as soon as we dont play it
How many players in dungeon? Is asia playing this bullshit?
To be honest, the game was never great (though it could be fun, it always lacked balance, direction and content). It just had the potential to become amazing, and looked like it would get there, which resulted in a massive cult following.
What we are seeing now isn't people being upset that an incredible game was ruined. It's that they are finally realizing that IM is incapable of delivering the game people thought Dark and Darker would become. A lot are just coping thinking that if we return the game to a previous state, it will be great. But that doesn't really solve much.
Yup. Lost the law suit and has to pay like 8 million. He’s sinking the ship so they can stop developing the game. I hope he loses all his money and is blacklisted.
Diablo II launched on June 29, 2000, after roughly 3 years of development, featuring 225 unique items, 92 prefixes, 81 suffixes, and 7 character classes, each with 3 skill trees, for a total of 210 skills (30 per class).
THIS IS AWFUL. WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SPAWN IN A SINGLE LOBBY WITH OTHER TRIOS
Does anyone here actually enjoy low time to kill?
I just don't understand sdf, if this was his vision all along why didn't it start like this in the playtests? Everyone got addicted to the playtests because they were good and we had random modifiers then as well... I don't think he even knows what his "vision" is. Blind people have better vision than this.
I’ve said it multiple times. A common rarity bardiche one-taps players with the best gear.
i'm having so much fun with this new patch!! nice job SDF and team!! let's GO
Take a break dude.
How did Graysun even become the community manager bruh, must be good friends with sdf
you need your safe space back lil bro? you scared?
Teaming update is toxic af
in my 24 years of gaming i have never a company blatantly ignore their community so much lmao. i use to love this game and im forcing myself to play it now
Its about time this game kicked the bucket, dont forget to leave a bad review before you unistall. it needs to get removed off steam and everyone should get a refund
When you realize that Minesweeper has more playable modes than Dark and Darker. And probably more players, too.
I use to love loading up some solo’s inbetween my cs2 games, but i can’t do that anymore which is bs. Annoying to get rolled by trios when i am alone (no, i do not want to team up with people in the dungeon. i want to play by myself)
Its soooo boring to kill someone just to loot his trash
lol its spectacular really
Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet
I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.
Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.
The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.
Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.
This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s been a hell of a run. But perhaps the truth is this: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name. Not as a game, but a memory, lost in the dark.
If SDF won’t change course, then sadly, I must.
One man’s trash is another man’s…. uh trash
Yeah. But i have a additional trouble:
Since im new (playing for 4-5 days) i simple dont have any reason for PVE (i really dont like to loot the same gear i already have, but with colored name)
And cant pvp, because: 1- im new and i dont know how to play Nice 2- i even cant try because i dont have friends to play and i cant matchmaking anymore xD.
I really liked the old loot system, altleast for pve (i dont try pvp yet)
Yes loot is irrelevant, only herbs and artifacts have value 🤣 probably u can run in bis with fulgor and get oneshoted by some random headshot
Sdf vision 👀
Yeah its cheeks lol
Ray Charles has better vision.
impossible play solo.
3x1
this update is TRASH
game is good u guys are too picky
so... i know the game is at its worst right now. but how tf do i get team mates? theres no options to change solo duo trio. and no option to not fill. but i keep getting put in solo and fighting full trios
loot needs a buff
SDF should've left this patch in the kitchen
I agree, I just like playing solo and dont want to 1v3 all the time
PRESS Y TO MAKE FRIENDS WHILE IN ThE DUNGEON, ISNT IT OBVIOUS ?
I love this game but I have to say this update is sad
Why is the wait 9 minutes
press Y and hope they let you join the team or uninstall
Just saying to take a break you seemed stressed out.
@dusky trout fix this bullshit
time to raid the steam reviews
EW the new nerfed loot table is DISGUSTING and a slap in the face
what you mean you DON'T like pulling whites and greys out of boss loot piles?
There is just no motivation to play it because neither killing or dying makes any value difference
Oh, and almost forget, the most important. I feel im not the only new player who thinks it, but maybe the only is here on discord xD. Cause, serious, PVE now is broken (no reason for loot) and wth is suppost to me learn play pvp? Since no solo or matchmaking
is anyone else rubberbanding hardcore ? so annoying
god damn ive died more trying to team up than just playing
@sdf RESIGN!
or you play this game with friends or you dont play anymore. thats just sad. Just green and blues for itens, really disapointed
Dude someone buy the game and save it
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I have always stood up for this game and the devs but with this update they need to refund us our money. This isnt a game anymore. I wouldnt have paid 30$ for this. I dont consider this an actual game with this new patch. It's just a combat simulator at this point. A slap in the face for sure. I wanted this game to live on but honestly this patch makes me want to forget about it. Watching streamers play this wont even be entertaining
I think the patch is good
@glad thunder give me a refund 🙂 give ALL of us a REFUND 🙂
I think you like to lick boots.
GAME IS AWFUL NOW
@glad thunder just leave the company so anyone else, you aint got what it takes.
Smoking crack?
Is anyone else's audio broken? Sounds terrible
my squire kit is still boosted as if it didnt wipe but inly on ranger lol
its not bad but like it feels dull now
i like how the "balance" patch does not allow me to fill teamates...
They actually blocked the word re/ sign thats insane
Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet
I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.
Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.
The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.
Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.
This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s been a hell of a run. But perhaps the truth is this: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name. Not as a game, but a memory, lost in the dark.
If SDF won’t change course, then sadly, I must.
I LOVE looting squire gear while WEARING squire gear!!! what an absolute and complete JOKE
I’d feel that way too if I was scared ngl
Tbh running around as a naked rat talking shit has been pretty fun

just spend like 800 on a full kit and go bully the people that dont run gear not a good wipe to collect gear so just run it
They just wanna make us leave this game so that they could close the sever formally.After all they already got the money.
Probably 0-24 players that constantly go in trio with randoms like this patch, no gear gap so they have a lil chance every pvp. The thing is those players are so casual, probably play not more than 3 hours per day and game will die eventually because nobody wants to play this bullshit
any idea whats the reason for the random modifiers on loot to be removed?
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6️⃣ 8️⃣ 
yeah this actually just finally is boring now wow
Honestly, killed the solo experience.
Steam going to overlywhelmingly negative.
Bad times for this game.
0 rogue players now 😂
removing solo/duo without making a central social hub doesnt make sense. The change would be totally fine if there was an actual social aspect to the game but its severly lacking. I cant load into a town/tavern and meet people why am i gonna want to meet anyone indungeon makes 0 sense. This update should have brought a social setting with these changes
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
cant even queue with randoms anymore for trio thats done. its done for bud
@glad thunder
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6️⃣ 8️⃣ 
The entire patch makes me want to quit
What about it? I’m really enjoying the gameplay
I HAVE A GREY A WHITE AND A GREEN PAIR OF HEAVY BOOTS THEY ALL HAVE 3 STR AM I MISSING SUMTHING
sdf wanted to make easier to balance, instead cooked game , fun. why iron hammer? why... why rogue now die instead of fly? why... why iron hammer? why windy crosbow more better than barb... why iron hammer, why.
alright was having fun but i think its over for me
Sdf needs to stop wiping his unwashed and sweaty balls all over the game!!!
I liked trios. I don't want to load into a dungeon solo and HOPE other players will want to team up with me. God this update is so stupid. Who is running the show? what in the actual hell man
Bro was 0-24 final boss and now is happy that everyone is in squire gear 🤣
What are the twitch drops for
how do i team up with someone mid dungeon
They cut the solo and duo queue just to save the cost on severs.They are going to broke
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good question, im looking for an answer too
I HAVE 3.4K HOURS IN THIS GAME 98% OF IT WAS SOLO, no reason to play this game anymore
bro this is the final nail in the coffin. literaly barbs just one tapping every class because they get 200% headshot bonus on bardiche. zero skill expression. gear doesnt matter. solos and duos gone. no new content. devs put the crack pipe down
the devs are really cooking with this update haha. wow they're really cooking. wait its burning! devs stop cooking! STOP COOKING!
@glad thunder
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6️⃣ 8️⃣ 
why?
Looting sucks. Match making gone. It makes zero sense.
the actual insane rubberbanding is the real problem holy the game is not playable after update for me
I just like playing dark and darker idk
on a positive note. Game still fun with friends
sdf would make better choices if he were indeed high
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
Yeah.. thats the problem lmao
Right people highkey trippin
I bet sdf was the one that goes to the right side of the iceberg when trying to flip it in club penguin
got 3 reward tokens. basically bis.
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So are they really just trying to get people to leave? I dont see the how this is playable. I love this game btw
Force players to solo queue, give them the hope of a in-game party, load them in next to a trio... what?
yeah im not playing till they bring trio fill random queues bback pull their heads outta their arse's that was all i played
Yes only this can make sense for the update
Just happened to me, Its so stupid. @glad thunder missing a brain
They owe millions from losing the court case. They are gutting the game.
Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet
I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.
Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.
The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.
Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.
This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s been a hell of a run. But perhaps the truth is this: Dark and Darker may soon live up to its name. Not as a game, but a memory, lost in the dark.
If SDF won’t change course, then sadly, I must.
I called this shit weeks ago. This one que business isn’t going to work no matter what. Anyone with even half a brain could see that solo now non existent because you can’t outplay 3 people. Good luck doing anything as a solo, you know the majority of the playerbase. It’s finally over SDF! Good job butchering a game that was impossible to fail
Just find people through the gathering hall, everyone’s kill on sight
@glad thunder do you like licking diddyies buhhole
why am i like two tapping all mobs as a wizard with magic missles lol
They'll work out the kinks. Happy they play test some out of the box stuff. People will play it out of hate, and slowly itll become the diamond its meant to be.
WOW thats right now the gems are just trinkets instead of being useful and fun to loot. what a garbage update
how do i make my squire gear common
Damn they managed to make this shit game even shittier and tbh I'm not surprised. What's the point of loot now that random modifiers are gone like wtf?
Just when I think I’m ready to come back and play I read these new updates holy crap 😂 that’s all I can say 😞 this game is falling more and more from what it use to be good luck lads
or you find two people to play with you, or leave tha game......
by questing
Its OBVIOUSLY a unbalanced update that sdf should realize.
how do you que with random teammates?
you cant anymore cause their dumb and want the game to die
You go into the gathering hall OR you team in game with Y
is DND back or should i just comeback nxt season?
whats the best jewelry for CS BOClock?
please merge NA arena queues, US WEST is SLOW
Is the game fun atm?
Not in the slightest. If you like getting 1 shot by everything and having no reason to loot then go for it.
Again if you think this state of the game is the final product...Type harder! I am sure it'll be the change you're crying for!

barb can one shot
The game play loop was damn near perfect before this update. All we needed was more CONTENT, not nerfs to the loot table or nerfs to the ease of playing with other people or the absurdly dumb decision to remove modifiers and making a entire game mechanic obsolete. I usually keep my mouth shut and just play the game but goddamn you ruined my dopamine fix by destroying this game! It was damn near perfect and 8/10 chests would give me that shot of dopamine I craved. Now the game is boring, lifeless and just another shitty battle royale. Get it together and fix this mess.
^^^^^^^
I don't mind the gear changes, feel okay.
The solo queue though - oof
@vernal arch he spitting @glad thunder tf are u doing LOL
True.
so not only did they remove my solo but know i have to fight to even get a teammate ffs why?????
vision
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the gear changes hurt it the most for me, got my fix from the trueish random loot, plus loved stacking Luck when i could. 2 games i realized all my loot had no stats, just got off, when i fully read the notes,
Agreed, the game was already in a horrible state overall, but now that@glad thunder decided that removing random modifiers was a good idea, we might as well have a moment of silence. RIP Dark and Darker 🪦
Cause fuck us is what sdf said, he isn't listening to us anymore because his vision is the end all be all.
I'm telling y'all. They want to kill off their playerbase. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
It’s even worse, he is passionate but too egotistical
W SELF SABOTAGE @glad thunder JUST ADMIT YOU HATE THE GAME
7th round in a row that i've been killed by someone doing the 'form group' emote with handshake ... just for them to already be in a full group when i get to them and their other two pop out and they kill me. Amazing "organic grouping" design. @glad thunder @zinc sparrow
SDF is shitting himself right now I bet. Update looks like ass and isn’t being well received. They really thought twitch drops were the saviour for this test cycle hahahahahah
Dark and Darker: Slipping Into Its Darkest Depths Yet
I never imagined I’d be writing this.
Once, Dark and Darker stood tall a bold beacon for gamers craving danger and thrill. Its savage dungeons, daring escapes, and addictive loot runs captured thousands. It wasn’t just a game; it was a moment. Evading monsters, outwitting foes, clutching survival—it was magic.
Now? It feels like a long, slow fade.
The spark is missing. Lobbies once brimming with life now feel empty. Removing solo and duo queues, pillars of the experience, broke the game for many. Forcing trios hurt those who prized freedom. Major streamers have left, some blaming leadership directly.
The gear system, once vibrant, feels hollow. Variety gave way to sameness. Creative builds have vanished beneath stale, rigid metas.
Worse still: broken promises. Quivers, new maps, class updates all teased, none delivered. The Discord, once lively, has become hostile. Cries for leadership change echo daily. A revolt is underway, driven by fading hope.
And all of it under the weight of Ironmace’s legal defeat. Financial pressure, a tarnished image, and a fractured community suggest the end is near. Sales are falling. Trust is vanishing. A comeback feels unlikely.
This game mattered. It was something. But unless there’s a real shift, we may be witnessing its final descent.
It’s b
does arena gear have to be found by?
I can't man. This is too terrible to let it go. Whoever this update was catered to(probably the reddit minority) I hope they are enjoying their lifeless shell of what once was. I hope they are ecstatic that they aren't getting rolled over by gear modifiers. I hope they enjoy pulling poor and common grade crap out of every chest and gold pile. I hope they find joy in running around solo screaming "friendly friendly!!!!11!"
hows everyone doing tonight?
as a solo only player i am so mad at the devs. SDF is probably the most clueless dev i have ever heard of. way to ruin the game for 95% of your player base
Ruins is so unbelievably laggy rn its crazy
🥀S🥀D🥀F🥀
Solo players rage hader man, honestly playing solo right now myself just give it a go
ima jump
what to do...i will tell you.....leave the game and quit talking in chat and make it a ghost town even more. you cant send the message when you keep sending messages
for real. what am i supposed to do if no one wants to accept my team up request and teams of 3 just sprint and kill me every raid. guess i wont boss anymore 😭
0/10 ragebait L shill
Don’t worry fellas, me and my trio are doing our part to lower the player count
This is really bad. All the fun is gone
this games officially cooked. i hope steam removes it again. give it a proper send off to the shallow grave sdf is digging for it. ive got my money worth i believe, will be uninstalling immediatly tho 😂💩 such a shame they did this. GGs fellow people. it WAS fun!!
Have you considered adventure mode? Or the gathering hall...
they nerfed players and buffed mobs gg, mobs are harder to kill than players
they killed dark and darker
GAME STILL CRASHES WHEN MIDNIGHT CURSE STARTS AT 1 MIN 30 SECONDS EVERY TIME
this is off a comment on yamis vid and holy shit it hits the nail on the fucken head "@WeWantBears
5 hours ago
SDF collected money from players, squeezed the free-to-play until the majority of willing spenders paid for the premium game (which has majority of the content), and then... cut down the game until all players would willingly uninstall over the last month and especially today. What a good grift, fully fits with 2025.
A true Pump and Dump, for Dark and Darker.
The dark grows darker..."
dark and darker is definetely getting darker and darker
Forcing people to watch DAD on Twitch for 7 hours just to be able to store their gold Zzzz had to sign up for an account just to do this sigh
wow they really knocked it out of the park with this patch, i'm having a blast
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere
imagine the game had awesomeness to it like it had been out for years...then years later the game is about 2 ideas away from being pong on atari
SDF collected money from players, squeezed the free-to-play until the majority of willing spenders paid for the premium game (which has majority of the content), and then... cut down the game until all players would willingly uninstall over the last month and especially today. What a good grift, fully fits with 2025.
A true Pump and Dump
🫡
this game is dead now bro its so sad
spot on. this is not the same game anymore
skill issue
Has nothing to do with skill ya troll.
no cosmetics no watch adventure player stance
This game has changed many times over the years. Looking back at clips from 2022 gameplay it was a completely different vibe than the last year or 2. They're trying to make an untested game concept work so I'm happy they're still experimenting.
why should i go into dungeons and loot, if it actually doesnt have a loot system?
the problem with trios only is my progress in this game depends on OTHER people playing well. BRING BACK SOLOS. frock duos but we NEED solos...the frock man
The problem is that the "untested" game concept makes zero sense from a game design perspective
Why tf are they wasting time making new modules when it’s gonna take until late August for water map? Does anyone actually care if you kill a kobold in a big cave instead of a small cave? Does it even register the third time you see it?
Have the attributes been removed from the game?
They had a good version of the game down a while ago. Theyve abandoned it to work on whatever weird shit sdf can come up with now
🇮 🇳 🇨 🇴 🇳 🇨 🇪 🇮 🇻 🇦 🇧 🇱 🇪 
hope sdf is getting a mrder b0nr from killing this game
I'm so sad that the patch is this. I would have bought the new charter and emotes. I can't add money to shit though
DaD as a whole has always been an untested game concept at every point. There have been times where it works but only due to its novelty and imo had its flaws at each stage.
,' , | ,'_'
this is why games with competent devs use test servers, because insane instability on main server drives players away. but Ironmace doesn't want to use a test server or doesn't know how and only updated it to appease the pissed off players.
Not really... extract shooters are a thing, medieval combat games are a thing, and D&D style games are a thing
this
yeah no im not gonna 1v2/1v3 everytime i get in a fight and im not gonna strictly play pve either. You remove solo and duo ques without even adding a social hub. im not going to go into the dungeon and "make friends" Thats just not the place to trust people. Could have so easily added a social setting like a tavern or small town to form parties but devs absolutely ignored that. I just wont play this game idc if there was no solos as long as there was an actual ingame place to form a party that wasnt the god damn dungeon where everyone is bloodthirsty and the ones that arent are straight up untrustable. Deffinetly a rugpull so ironmace doesnt have to payout to nexon. unreal
so can you not play trios anymore? i just reinstalled?
Correct. They removed trios and made the game Solos and Duos only. 🙂
Sure but together with mass adoption. It's a novelty not a tested game concept.
Yessir so hit the uninstall button
Wait isnt it the opposite?
bring back the trios
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
why dont people accept team invites??
in this configuration, the game is over for me, impossible to play, retired until reverse this nonsense
@zinc sparrow @tight widget @staff you guys are completly fucken lost
bro, its over and they hate you. SDF could not give less of a shit about the opinions of the players and their entire company is built on theft and incompetence. it was a good run, but they dont even deserve the success they got from the game they stole.
Nah the patch is so good man im having so much fun holy moly!!!
CRY
Not very nice for a fellow fish enjoyer
You’re gonna have so much fun with those 2,000 players! Enjoy the game, buddy 🙂
wants to make every class be able to 1v3 .....allows every class to break doors
mannnn why are arena queues so long? really no one playing????
dork nonsense, SDF is going to bring back random mods, letting each week 1 kind of mod can be rolled on all items, then changing it the following week. he will keep doing this until he finally reachs +All on all items and stops changing the game
🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🇪 🇩 😭 😭 
wtf is this game like you either make gold to buy legendary or unique or loot to find it

They rekt the game
yea i might as well uninstall, not fun without trios
who else up stroking they shit instead of playing dnd cause SDF doesn’t wanna let go of his vision
why is time to kill reduced? why is there no matchmaking? why is loot so bad? why was the gem socketing feature removed (aka why are cockatrice and goldsmith still in the game) ???
stroke yo shit till season 7 everything will be reverted
i love this change so much man the game is so fun i love looting the same shit over and over again and mobs tapping me 1 shot
-Revert changes -remove Sdf +40k players
this game fuc king sucks now. fu ck you @zinc sparrow and fu ck you @glad thunder
I took psychic damage when someone posted the difference between white and green gear
I honestly think they want to kill the game or even reduce the pop to whats profitable in terms of cost / revenue, servers are expensive i guess
every time I get gear > oh hey BIS
without the grind what are we going to do? pvp?
No hits taken all the way to inferno just to be insta killed from full health by a normal skeleton
all praise to the one true vision!
Nothing, they stopped working on improving the gameplay loop when they released the Early Access 2 year ago. So now that they removed the interest of farming gear there's nothing to do
Nexon wants the game as collateral and SDF has chosen to tank the game before handing it over. Can't prove it but most of us see this for what it is. The game was damn near perfect just 3 months ago. There's no logical explanation for the changes that have come to DaD in such a short time frame outside of intentional sabotage at BEST. Sucks, man 💔
I AM PLAYING STARWARS BATTLEFRONT TWO BECAUSE THE PATCH IS THAT BAD
the patch cannot be that bad🥀
(i’m on helldivers i feel you)
ive been back playing league for 2 weeks because the game is that bad
this game fuc king sucks now. fu ck you @zinc sparrow ysun and fu ck you @glad thunder
get on overwatch tbh
Same, playing league
if you want true changes everyone has to agree to be real cool and not kill each other in the dungeon. I mean 60% of the time, it works every time. But seriously this isn't permanent ❤️

Been having the PoE itch again honestly
just looked at steam charts playerbase is down 40% sice last month xD, its almost laughable what sdfs vision is man :/
Mercenaries has been really fun
Bro i got one shot by a taser dog last night wallah
Gave a bunch of solos a shot, it's just not as fun as before.
Not a great update guys
A Call to Arms from the Community of Dark and Darker
To the developers, to Ironmace, and to every soul who once braved the dungeons—
We, the players, the adventurers, the faithful who bled, looted, and escaped together—we are still here. We remember what made this game special. The tension. The glory. The chaos. The thrill of outsmarting death. And we believe it can rise again.
But change must come. Real, transparent, player-focused change. Bring back solo and duo queues. Restore the soul of the gear system. Fulfill the promises made. And most of all—listen to the community that stood by you when no one else did.
We don’t want to see Dark and Darker fade into the void. We want to fight for it. Fix it. Play it. Love it.
So we’re sounding the horn: Do not let this world die in silence. You built something legendary. Now fight to save it—with us.
#SaveDarkAndDarker
#BringBackTheLight
#WeAreStillHere 🥀 🇹 🇭 🇪 🪦 🇪 🇳 🇩 🪦 🇮 🇸 🪦 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 🥀
anyone wanna trio?
We need to wait for the last 4k loyalist to find out that y8.com has better dungeon games so we can change the game
Sso rogue got nerfed to shit????????????????
this might be the most cringe message i've ever read in this chat and that's saying something
So according to the wiki, Nexon was working on the P3 project before 2021. Does that project still exist? I'm really hoping for a game that could replace DaD.
No it was scrapped
@glad thunder YO WHAT DA FK U DO TO DA GAME
Correct
the game is in worse ruins than the map
This isnt permanent
❤️ 
Come back it’s worth don’t get fubgun build bait
This last update turned the game into one giant joke it's not even worth playing you can't team up with Rando's anymore not even worth looting for loot Rogues get one shot by crossbows now Good job turning it into one giant joke they're devs you're killing the game!!!
IRONMACE Co., Ltd. 8F, 225-18, Pangyoyeok-ro Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si,
Gyeonggi-do, Republic of Korea
Little excursion boys, lets go
idk why ppl yappin rn, this game is so good. I love never having to open up a chest now because purple and base gear are the exact same
Where can i get a list of items that can break doors now?
They will revert, we just have to lost time for no reason till then, because of a lunatic
They are slow with making the changes because they care about balance. If they rushed these things you would be in here crying about how the new things break up the flow of the game. Just be honest about this. The devs are doing a fantastic job of making changes when they are ready to roll them out
What does this mean
Game is wack Make gold for BIS or get rolled sdf probably sucks at the game that’s why he got rid of the extra stats
Yeah especially how “good” parrying and shields got fixed.
OH ANOTHER CROSS BOW
not permanent, but cyclical
IF KEEP THIS WAY, GAME IS OVER
fair... I only played season 6 and had a bunch of fun but it seemed like everyone was already jumping off by then. I understand this update isn't ideal but the matchmaking clearly wont remain the same. Also figured them trying so many wild things good and bad will lead to creating a diamond that we all deserve.
rip game ty @glad thunder chino de mierda
sdf i gotta be honest i dont have a lot to live for and this wipe made the game so unplayable for solo enjoyers that i genuinely think i want to uninstall. this game is the only thing ive kept living for but now its just gonna die and its all your fault. Never been more depressed in my entire life. your vision sucks and you should listen to your players unless you are actively trying to kill the game which it really seems like you are.
yeah man take away solo/duo que but dont add a social setting to team up with people. what an illustrious idea
Im just saying, the address to their office is publically available on their website. So if you have any inquires or anything like that, you can send them correspondences and the like to that address
i take back everything i said, this game is now extremely dull. not only is looting not fun anymore given the modifiers missing. but in 5 raids i haven't found a single bit of blue gear, nor have i found a green or above for my class. i keep running into 1v2s and 1v3s where everyone seems to be 10x quicker than me. i wouldn't mind playing solo in trios, but without random modifiers this game is truly miserable and is now lacking the magic that made dark and darker
What was the point of dropping TTK and then dumping all over the gear? Why wouldn't they try one change at a time before punching all these holes in their boat... Not to mention the forcing trios just to remove queuing with randoms like way to give the 2 steps forward 100 back new meaning sdf/ironmess
God I just love trying to find another chump who decided to queue solo then hope he doesn’t be a typical DaD player and kill me
im streaming this discord's messages on kick lol watch it burn baby
sdf retire
Patch is not so bad

Any reason to get gear now? No random modifiers I can’t fix the weaker parts of any class I play so I’m just gonna get rock paper killed by the premade in ruins
*@Vanguard so the game is just full gear check, I have the cooler colored gear so now I win.
YO HOLY FGUCK I LITERALLY CANTPLAY ROGUE I JUST GOT 2 TAPPED BY A FUCK ASS GOBLIN ARCHER WTF?
ref do something sdf lost his mind 😭
Base stats. Movespeed and truedamage should have never been on items, only weapons.
A diamond? More like sdf put his lil south korean wee in your salad and expects you to keep eating your salad.
dont play rouge lol
everything makes sense if you only play Druid. ez.
tell that to wizard lol
tbf I recognize why they removed random mods but we would have to see how this goes. Most of the patch was actually good things (more modules for ice, removing the circle, removing fog, shields are more reliable), reducing ttk was bad but I can appreciate monsters dying faster as a side effect
this is sad
I support Nexon's legal battles.
The game has a premise for years working with the status of items, it is difficult to balance, yes but that was the fun of the game now it is just idk it is just something without fun and purpose, make Boss for what?
Getting one tapped by ghost king is SOOOO FUN am I right guys. Impossible to boss now. Ggs
Kim Jung is gonna punish SDF for how shit the game is
i still think there should be solos and everything else
"High impact power weapons can now destroy a door without needing to equip a special perk, giving all classes the possibility to run or chase."
how about you just..have less doors 💀
Bro i got literally one tapped by a taser dog
can we talk about how dog the new loot is
the game*
sdf*
Did the new body damage buffs affect NPC dmg to the player too?
SDF wants a brutal dungeon? No problem. But he simply removed the modifier. The truth is, to make the whole game function properly, monster stats, crafting recipes, map designs, etc. all need corresponding adjustments. This is a massive amount of work. So the end result will either be rolling back, or we'll go through a prolonged turbulent period before the game dies
They are slow with making the changes because they care about balance. If they rushed these things you would be in here crying about how the new things break up the flow of the game. Just be honest about this. The devs are doing a fantastic job of making changes when they are ready to roll them out

dungeonborne did a interisting thing with intemization. Random mods were kinda of "acount bound" you could find them on dungeon or acquire by killing other players, but when you bought from auction house the mods would shuffle again and you didn't know what you would get. For me this is a good solution for the random mods problem
If this was a year ago sure, maybe they shouldn't have kept adding crap onto the pile if they felt that way. Feels more like SDF had a "vision" and bricked his game more to me tbh.
how you guys liking the wipe.?
slow changes = kill sense of looting and getting better gear by critical rework items from "OMG IT'S BROKEN" to "Another one leg, uwu, nevermind.."
Very "slow"..
btw, graysun post that they will experiment with rolls and gear state avg in semi wipe. Waiting next stage, meh
With this game no modifiers it’s so cooked
honestly what is sdf doing, imagine a McDonalds employee quits his job and decides to make his own burger shop and even though it initially only has 1 burger it becomes one of the most celebrated burger spots in the past decade and eventually they add a few more menu items that people enjoy. but then imagine you go there one day and order your usual and the owner says. actually we don't have that anymore in fact we only have one burger right now and it only has onions. and when you ask why. when he sees the data that at least 66% of his customers aren't in favor of this change, the owner says " because thats how i like it, this is my vision of a good burger, here lets try my vision together!"
Timmy experience patch
SDF completely fumbled Dark and Darker like it was his mission to ruin it. What started as a gritty, unique, and intense dungeon crawler turned into an unbalanced, grindy, borderline pay-to-win mess under his direction. His updates feel random, his balance decisions are wildly out of touch, and his communication with the community is basically nonexistent. Instead of listening to the players who made the game popular in the first place, he steamrolls feedback like it's beneath him. The man acts like he’s creating a masterpiece, but in reality, he’s just patching holes in a sinking ship with ego and duct tape. Honestly, if destroying potential was a skill, SDF would be max level with a legendary title. At this point, the only dark thing left is the future of the game under his lead — and the only thing getting extracted is player hope.
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Aight, but lemme break it down real proper for the people in the back—'cause if you been around since day one, you feel this. SDF ain’t just fumbling the bag, he dropped it, kicked it into the sewer, and now actin’ like it ain’t even his fault. Bro came in like he knew better than everybody, but all he did was disrespect the foundation. Real ones know Dark and Darker had sauce—it was grimy, it was tense, it was real. But now? It’s like he turned it into some watered-down, RNG-riddled cash grab. Ain’t no heart in it no more, just flashy BS to pull in whales and flex battle passes.
And don’t even get me started on the updates—one week the game’s broken, next week it’s still broken but with a new coat of paint and another bundle in the shop. Man’s priorities are backwards. We asked for balance, he gave us bunny cosmetics. We asked for better servers, he gave us premium respec tokens. We said talk to us, and he went ghost like we ain't even here. Whole community out here makin’ memes and writing essays, and he too busy counting microtransaction money to care.
And what’s wild is—he had something special. This coulda been that game we talk about for years, like “yo, remember them late-night runs with the boys?” But instead it’s like watching your favorite corner store turn into a corporate chain—you don’t recognize it no more, and you damn sure don’t feel welcome. So yeah, maybe the game’s still online, but the soul? That left the dungeon a long time ago.
random matching had to go lets just use handshake emote instead 🤮
sdf has to go let some other people with actual passion take over
Hard facts the gameplay is so much more fun, figure out how to make loot more fun and the gameplay as fun as it is now
Aight, but lemme break it down real proper for the people in the back—'cause if you been around since day one, you feel this. SDF ain’t just fumbling the bag, he dropped it, kicked it into the sewer, and now actin’ like it ain’t even his fault. Bro came in like he knew better than everybody, but all he did was disrespect the foundation. Real ones know Dark and Darker had sauce—it was grimy, it was tense, it was real. But now? It’s like he turned it into some watered-down, RNG-riddled cash grab. Ain’t no heart in it no more, just flashy BS to pull in whales and flex battle passes.
And don’t even get me started on the updates—one week the game’s broken, next week it’s still broken but with a new coat of paint and another bundle in the shop. Man’s priorities are backwards. We asked for balance, he gave us bunny cosmetics. We asked for better servers, he gave us premium respec tokens. We said talk to us, and he went ghost like we ain't even here. Whole community out here makin’ memes and writing essays, and he too busy counting microtransaction money to care.
And what’s wild is—he had something special. This coulda been that game we talk about for years, like “yo, remember them late-night runs with the boys?” But instead it’s like watching your favorite corner store turn into a corporate chain—you don’t recognize it no more, and you damn sure don’t feel welcome. So yeah, maybe the game’s still online, but the soul? That left the dungeon a long time ago.
@rare venture your cooked
It's more like "Oh I was feelin like a burger at my restaurant and I don't like the burger on the menu so I changed it for 2 months so I could eat at my restaurant for 1 day"
is SDF doing comedy work>
the combat STILL is very much fun. Don't having solos is bad, ttk could be a little higher. Random mods were a problem, if they can't find a way to fix it they should just remove it until having a solution
Can I refund this trash isn't the product the I bought
is this game more dead now
Bro i TOLD YOU GUYS. SDF is a Nexon Agent who was tasked with making a competitor to the Nexon Game so that when he runs DnD into the ground, players would flock back to Nexon
literal skill issue, stop crying
Does SDF even have a vision? Yesterday he encouraged combat and discouraged ratting. Today he adds more extraction points to help avoid fights, remove interaction delay. He’s just contradicting himself constantly.
Forcing players to 1v3 and then also removing all means to escape would be just stupid.
Bro really said “the combat is still fun” like that’s supposed to excuse the rest of this dumpster fire of an update. Yeah, swinging a sword can still be fun—in the same way eating dry cement is technically a meal. But don’t act like we ain't been eating scraps. No solos? Trash. TTK? Outta whack. Mods? Still busted. And your solution is “just remove it until they figure it out”? That’s like saying, “just take the engine out the car till we know why it won’t start.”
The game ain't a vibe just 'cause one thing still works. A cracked screen don’t mean the phone still good when the battery’s fried, the mic’s dead, and the camera app crashes on open. Quit settling. If combat is the only thing left holding this game up, then it’s hanging by a thread—and SDF out here with scissors.
having a lot of fun with this patch 👍 nice job ironmace
o7 in the chat its over
Now I believe that SDF is North Korean spy,because North Korean don’t understand the games
He wanted to play barbarian for 6 weeks w/o crusher perk. #barb&barber
Ah yes, the combat “STILL is very much fun.” Fantastic insight—like saying bread is still bread. You open with a sentence that reads like a desperate attempt to convince even yourself that the game still has a pulse. If you’re clinging to “fun combat” like it’s a life raft, maybe it’s because everything else is circling the drain?
Next: “Don’t having solos is bad.” First of all, the sentence structure makes it sound like English attacked you and won. But let’s assume you meant “not having solos is bad.” That’s an opinion, sure—but you offer no context. Why is it bad? Is it because you need a babysitter in team modes? Or is it just harder to blame teammates when you flop solo?
Then comes the classic “TTK could be a little higher.” What does that even mean? You want people to live longer… so you can miss more shots? Stretch out your mediocrity over a few extra milliseconds? The TTK is a design choice—raising it without adjusting weapon balance, ability pacing, or map flow is just a lazy take. You want more breathing room not because it's better design, but because you're getting outgunned and need a handicap.
And the pièce de résistance: “Random mods were a problem, if they can’t find a way to fix it they should just remove it until having a solution.” That’s some big brain thinking—if something’s broken, just yank it out. Why stop there? Why not remove every system that isn’t perfect? Just ship an empty box and call it “balanced.” The devs are supposed to iterate, improve, and test—removing features out of panic is how you end up with sterile, uninspired design. But hey, maybe that’s more your speed.
ts patch pmo
ADD SOLOS BACK IMMEDIATELY!!! EMERGENCY PATCH NOW!!!
sd L
Look at Korea's live-operated games - you'll realize they have no talent for 'operations'
Those of us in the game playing are having a blast, I keep getting a couple random other solos to shake hands and we run around battle for our lives, if someone dies and leaves we find another willing soul and keep going
zzzzzzzzzzzz
that was fun to read, thanks to the effort
So without random rolls, why would new players even pick up this game over Fortnite?
Guys how do u claim ur last seasons demigod rewards