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I find most people playing goblin caves are all interested in fighting over bosses where ruins you tend to find a wide range of different types of players
i wanna play but i don't wanna support SDF anymore š¦ im playing the mobile game but meh
Technically that's krafton now
Tbh just do whatever you find fun, dude :)
Onetapher (barb) is teaming in HR (solos) in full uniques rough
do quest also restart when semiwipe?
Wth is #graysuns-plate ? Is he serving us the sdfās shit?
We have more new useless channels than good content added and kept in the game 
Do you want to see what is on the plate today? š¤
Let me take a guess, it's the venting to Jay from toddfather's video
is solo duos on the plate?
content? (That is not something overecycled like circle)
i guess
I wouldn't show you anything you have seen before 
I just watched Todd's video about DND and Jay, I've never seen a company self sabatoge so hard. Kinda hope they fail now not gonna lie.

You can talk about that kind of stuff in #the-tavern.
Not here, thank you š
Saw it too yesterday, they are in a class of their own
ok, ill take my opinion elsewhere.
graysun when will we get freak n freaker
show us the plate
Yeah, then call it balance
Okay
I donāt wanna be rude but instead of trying to create suspense in here could you just go and do it already
yeah what is this lmao
my message got deleted because i leaked the method (senior game designer method)
It's community engagement, only a true community manager understands this
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Yes they are definitely in position to do this shit rn lol
its an empty plate without solos and duos
it's up to the dev to make something someone is willing to even play
Are you not entertained, on the hook? Cmon... it works
What is this new gear gonna be 1 roll on every quality item of non multiplier value?
removing solo and duo from a full plate is like getting steak and potatos but you can only eat the potato
I am annoyed they trying to create this suspense when new content is due for so long and they already teased so much stuff they never finished
all of the content they produce is lame and uninspired. just bring back solos
Ah, I sea.
Well I saw pic of the map before
ahhh wow looks like a snapshot from chivalry lol
Me too
this is nothing new lmao, different angle of what we saw already maybe
theres always hr solos if you feel like getting clapped by a giga chad with a fulgor
@zinc sparrow ill sell you my left pinky toe for normal solos and duos to return
also who cares about new map
i want more funny emotes tbh
Does the druid get a new water animal to turn into?
I want fixed game
New map same shotgun ranger
LMAO crocodile of despair
hopefully a sea cucumber or something usless x
considering sdf plays druid we def getting a great white shark form
a frog instead of rat form
A pig form instead of bear form
King bean flicker has spoken
touching the toxic frog does the wisp effect without taking sound
a beaver could be cool
I need a duck form
Who would have relations with me (89 year old woman only)
Ironmace just doesnt give a duck
Best we can do is female fighter that is a man irl
I'm going to sell it to you like a cosmetic
I'm somewhat of a bottom feeder
I will buy it even though I dont play druid.
Arapaima form
#graysuns-plate message not gonna lie this is extremely underwhelming just looks like ice caverns but not frozen thereās even harpy all the way in the back just more ctrl c ctrl v again @zinc sparrow I really hope thereās more than that
Bro why are there harpies everywhere xDD
bet you falling in the water = instadeath.
Cosmetic quests are so dumb, IM really makes it so grindy so that you just buy it next season
Whatever you could mean
Gyarados druid form for this map cmon
gam crasch?
For the water map I expected more moss/dark green theme, it looks too bright as if someone is doing the cleaning and maintenance of those structures
yeah they have to rebrand @fluid lily the new name will be Bright and Brighter
graysun put a dog with some drip on the map as a tribute to me, or make a seahorse enemy
We've only shared a tiny portion, more will come 
Is falling in the water instadeath like icecaves?
Also duck skin for druid's chicken, when?
is there gonna be new mobs and new bosses? and artifacts?
Yes, can't wait to share!
really
Why isnāt the arena thatās open now artifact arenas? Itās gonna semi wipe anyways
are there gonna be a new class or nerf sorc dmg XD
Would be awesome if we get to play around with them before next week : (
where can we seen the water map?
Are there any new things or ideas you guys got while making water map that you think can be added to existing maps as well?
Give me paladin that uses crystal sword and has a skill that makes it bigger temporary like skeleton warlord, now we talking
nah im waiting for like a necromancer that can summon 5 mobs and fight for u
take them into real game!
guys is the new map comming season 7 ?
think thats the plan yeah
nice
I think yes because of the semi wipe, but it could be 8
i think semi wipe won't have it, but the real season after will
but ig they need to make a mob named water crawlers
i hope not longer i am hyped for new map this
We casual players spend our entire gameplay time farming barely one artifact, weāre already not good compared to the die hard fans, last thing we want is to die immediately and lose our artifact that took us weeks to farm : (
Butcher's bridge is back for arams tho, you have some pirate content
alla is gei
as a casual player why would u grind the whole wipe to purchase just one artifact instead of multiple juicer kits to earn them, im a casual player i have 113 hours on the game but i have 2 artifacts from killing players that dont play well, are u a pve player only?
i love that dark and darker gets better each wipe
man i want my solo to stay š¦
yeah
or woman sry
What if non binary?
felt
the thing is im pretty hyped for this update but please bring back solo duo trio teams on normals
O.o
No, Iām not just a pve player. I farmed artifact only because itās like the dream item to get. Farming towards it feels a lot more steady than hoping to run into someone holding one, and even furthermore killing them.
Also thatās why I would fear to take them in non arenas, I know I donāt play well, bringing it in would just feel like I wasted weeks of farming lol
They're getting rid of trios next wipe. They found that trios was too unbalanced.
you did waste weeks if you donāt plan to run it thatās massive gear fear. Take it in to adventure get a good kit and go lose the gear fear
I can't sorry. Just had a semi wipe, gotta clean things up.
i lost my soul scraprer to an unbalanced rogue with deathbloom
full bis 1 tapped from behind
Itās not really just fear, but rather I KNOW Iām gonna lose it.
I am probably only going to bring it in normal dungeon on the last day before wipe, if artifact arena exists at least we get to have a few days of fun where we can play as aggressively as weād like.
arena literally completely dead rn
no shame in it, i don't bring my artifacts into pvp either. gave 2 of them to my bestfriend this wipe so he could trade up though
i did arena today only full bis rat rogue's
FIX THE GAME OR IM UNINSTALLING RIGHT NOW
im full bis cleric im ok with it
chill they are working on the game
I think youāre having way too high of a bar for what you consider casual.
im in game rn almost died to ai .
Yeah I only played with it in pve, and was really hoping they would open artifact arenas just a few days before wipe
How many hours do you consider casual?
w sdf
under 2k
doge wana party or smt?
Itās not about hours, you could be really good with just 113 hours, but not everyone does
what do you consider casual then
im useless ingame im working on it im on 142 hours and can play wiz pretty good
Will we have the water map next wipe?
Thanks, but I think Iāll skip for now. Gonna probably take a break for a few days and go in last few days before wipe lol
2 YEARS
alright
We need leprechaun map, where harpies carry them on their claws and they throw bombs at us
Mostly going in squire lobbies. Every once in a while having enough gear to do high rollers, and then losing the gear in 1-2 games. Rinse and repeat.
If you can kill people with artifacts, I wouldnāt consider you casual
by the way they should add like a artifact windlass or crossbow
I normally do a squire run into a high roller as my kit and take pieces that sell out as normal and build up a real kit, but I think your confusing casual with bad
i got much ideas for a name for windlass like wind crusher XD
Fine Iām bad
Iām not trying to call you bad or things Iām just saying, I started and watched ryan6days guide for pve
after you take the info from all the expanding videos on this game you will instantly not worry about anything. But FOMO gear fear is real
the only PVE that gives me trouble is the axe skele because it feels broken
My point of not bringing artifacts in still stands though, cause itās difficult for me to acquire, I am certain I canāt get another one if I lose it.
Iād rather keep it as a reminder for myself that if I practice more and get good enough I can use it better
doge im ingame and i am littarly breaking peoples ears cuz they were tryna kill me
I think practicing the weapon type of the artifact would do you a lot more justice
what is the drop chance for artifacts? killed lich 50+ times yet no artifact dafuq
viper its just based luck
If you talking about luck, I ran mostly 200+ luck on my kit combined with a greater pot of luck and at this point I doubt that it does anything
maybe bring luck pots
I get almost an artifact every game from doing pvp and doing ghost
what luck are you running pre pot
nah i parry em with warlock curse of weakness curse of pain then they die
hell yeah, just killed a full unique/legendary druid to get my last AP for demigod on rogue man had purple protection pots and everything was a 110% no lifer
lizard wanna run normal run? rn
grats
I'm down edit: which party chat?
Whatās up with the #graysuns-plate thing is that a teaser or something for a new map?
if you add this map without removing or restricting others this game is beyond cooked
I'd like someone from IM to clarify if PvE is going to be removed or not, this game is already at 29% positive reviews I don't think we need more shadiness.
"We have huge issues with the amount of queue in our game, let's add a new map who's going to add a couple more queue!"
dw we're never getting that water map lmao
We'll they just started to tease it and called it would release next wipe (not semi wipe) if i'm right. But they did that for the past two wipe so
they always say the same shit, thats why the "fix" the same things every patch, theyre never fixed
And anyway, all the time spent on this new map could have been used to make more usefull content. Such as improving the gameplay loop by adding new thing to do in and outside of the dungeon, such as new point of interest (that would solve so many issues in the game)
The cockatrice still making sounds after death, for example
infinite examples my brother lmaooo, new POI would be awesome too I agree
Prego gob
And not that hard to do there's some easy exemple :
- The Expressman : Put him in a random room in the dungeon and your need to go there to give him stuff to extract.
- A forge : It does the same thing that the Goldsmith but you can get the max roll of a stat and it cost only the gem (That mean you need to bring your gear and gem in the dungeon and take the risk to lose it)
- A gem Hoard: Like a gold Hoard but with a higher gem drop rate, put them only behind the Key room so people actually use them
i also think all key rooms should be mandatory spawns
We also need some PvP point of interest. Easy stuff, like a room with an unlimited res shrine, or a mini arena that close when 2 team enter so they don't get third party
i love the idea of mini arena room too, THUINDERDOME
stop forcing everyone to play like PVPers, but give PVPers something as a lil treat
lol, or how about the glitched dummies that show wildly low damage numbers. No matter how many patch they implement those will never be fixed. lol like how hard could that be?
That exactly
why is gen chat so dumb
stop making people play like pvpers in a pvp game. real and true statement bro.
Or maybe rework all the useless perks, that is what I Wish for the most, also Innate abilites for every class, Facets like in Dota or talent tree.
That would be nice too, at least better than a new map
like I know you're stupid, but can you at least acknowledge the clear data showing PVE mode being the most popular mode by FAR
PvPvE* (So ye, people shouldn't be FORCED to PvP but incentivize to go in special module on the map made for them to do so)
SDF just announced they're removing trios next wipe. The game is just going to be pve from now on.
Everything is better then new map. New map is that last content thing we need rn. It is just another space to do nothing, you can have 100 maps to do nothing and game would still suck
agreed
ā¬ļø I've been saying that for like a year now
I would be happy with single map in the game if there is something to do
hey, atleast it isnt a "bugfix" like the usual crap
So much wasted resources for map that is gonna add dozen of new problems and need maintenance for some time
true that, but atleast it isnt like the still broken "bugfixes" they do
People hype level : crypts.
At release it will gain traction like : frost caverns.
not the point bro bro
I agree but I would rather fixing of SERIOUS issues than new map
agreed, but something fresh is also nice.
New perks anti CC would be nice
think most would argue, fixing the basic shit is still better
I mean adding another shit on pile of shit doesn't make it anything than pile of shit
As someone from EU, it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought What is the difference! However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.
what does this mean? I live in EU, I am from NA
I have freedom.
I have loads more freedom since moving to EU
My friend found freedom by moving to Brasil
I feel like bro ran in here, we were discussing game, he screamed SQUIRREL and left
He wanted to feel free for a bit
lmao
I guess? LOL
It is just sad guys. There is so much potential in this game but they fumbling it so hard.
It's a problem of dev ego and misconception of what made the game great, it can't really be stopped unless the people in the team speak up
I think SDF is right in removing shoes in the next patch, it's really going to improve things.
Yes unfortunately. This is first game I started playing after playing DotA for 15 years. I love it so much and it breaks my heart seeing this. First game that gave me that dopamine rush I felt only on DotA before.
I've never played dota but before this I was playing lol. I was sucked into the medieval fantasy slowly even tho extraction games weren't my thing until then. It was indeed sad to see this game die slowly by becoming CS:GO medieval edition
i wish we could do something about it
maybe communicating with some of the devs
that wants good of this game
No, you can't really because all that could've been important has been done already unsuccessfully (steam reviews, reddit threads, discord discussions). I'm familiar with the situation as I work in consultancy/continuous improvement so I'm basically paid to deal with these kind of things. The only one trying to do anything about this is Terry (who I see as prob the manager trying to save the business - not the game), while sdf is the operator who has 40yo work experience refusing to change and would rather have the business die for his experiences and needs to be talked out by the manager out of it.
all that could've been important has been done already unsuccessfully - by this I mean, as outsiders, not part of the management team/dev team. It's something that only they can work out but from all the leaks it seems that nobody speaks up about the bad decision making and lack of accountability.
I was big gamer 20 years ago playing everything. Then I discovered DotA and I stopped playing everything else. Year ago I tried Dark and stopped playing DotA xD
That is why it makes me so sad. I love this game
can someone help me? what is motions in the customize tab?
Resting Emotes
20 years ago I was catching butterflies outside, I didn't even have a phone xD
I did too when not playing xD
I was a kid back then but already a gamer
I see, I was too little back then. All I remember is that metin2 was big hype around me
Oh yea, played Metin for some time too
anyone getting this issue where you extract with loot when you get to the summery it says zero value then in menu theres no loot in you inv
Their downfall was being greedy af too, giving IM a run for their money
I was too little to understand that back then
I have an issue where I extract with the loot, get blackscreen and not getting my AP, it's 1 in 5 games maybe but I keep the loot
yeah you did mention this yestoday im not getting that issue luckly but i extact with loot and theres nothing in my inv when i get to menu the summary screen says ive looted this ie items accieve 18 value of items 0
Ohhh, it was you, I remember someone mentioned this I just wasn't sure xD
yeah im not sure what i can do im just not getting anything
Except reporting this under the report a bug and tagging someone from the team here, I'm not sure what else you can do
#graysuns-plate message Now this, this is BiS
Is it though
the new map will certainly save the game
for sure xD
Thatās the sole reason people are quitting smh frfr
ngl Id like the underwater map especially since its summer right now, kinda matches
If the devs mentality stays the same nothing can save this game
i wonder which color of the skeletons will be there (new monsters). Probably green 
You can already see it, in seasonal rewards
this shiit tuff ... if this the vibe and look of the new map I am actually hyped ... no troll
whoever was involved in the map layouting and design needs a raise and needs to get half the cut of sdf money added on top of that since that map designer was clearly cookin 5 star menu and not that sdf fastfood
Only small Otto can save this game, with a pre game lobby without checking gear.
Nah, i dont want otto. I want a cute cat named Atta.
That's the next dlc
I want to dive in the underwater map, thats all I am asking for

Actually I want this instead of Otto.
You probably can, but there will be zones like in ice cave where the water will be too deep so you fall in the Abyss. No swimming, just normal walking tho.
aw.. I just saw swimming animation in a leak video.
where i can find the leak video man
I hope you're right but I don't have high hopes for any coming content
true
dunno, it's somewhere under Ryan6DaysaWeek youtube channel.
thanks i go look
Player count? Im at work
6.9k In 5.5k lobby
Not that dead yet
No, the PvE mode still carries it hard for now
revert to patch 0 and start over at this point
with rust game dev team in charge
Is it just me or does dark and darker cause BSOD sometimes, I mean rn I cant even enter the game because of tvk.sys is causing it, I think its the anticheat or something
it got a really janky anti cheat
Do you guys like the golden cloak?
what golden cloak?
the OG golden cloak was lit. +3 all
Where can i get rubysilver ore?
The one that you can craft. @vast kayak Yeah I remember, the issue I have with it now is the 1 dex there

Ruins of the forgotten castle
Can i find them on adventure mode?
Yes but you only get 1 ore per deposit
Oh ok, thanks
Yesterday it was 50 gold in market, I was about to suggest buying it but now it's 82, definitely too much.
if it will be like that one underwater passage in goblin caves where u walk super slow, it would be awful
link it please
Yep, people forget that we already have underwater zones in the game. In the ruins of the forgotten castle there is a pretty big one where there are blue stairs below, Ice caves where the frostwalkers are, the goblin caves mentioned. Those are not exactly shallow waters, that's why my hopes aren't high for swimming.
dunno, it's somewhere under Ryan6DaysaWeek youtube channel. It was old videos.
You refer to his 4 month old video. I have already seen it and there is no swimming animation being leaked, at least not visualized
They talked about swimming and if I'm right there is file of swimming animation in the game file
can we actually drown in water?
They talk a lot, about many things fishing, quivers, swimming, new perks, new classes, new game modes, balance. It just sounds like fairytale truth be told
They showed the swimming animation like the legs are moving like a swimming. But maybe my memory got reconstructed
yeah, by the drawbridges lmao
they did at least SAY there would be swimming... then they showed ladders underwater....
I mean you live deep in the abyss of the sea, so you prolly know better than us
periodT
Not in the water...
I would appreciate a swimming system, but wonder how its compatible with combat tho
it just isnt LOL
people could just go there if low hp and chill there ... could cause problems pvp wise
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Fireballs underwater is the new techinque, new perk for wizard to merge spells like sorcerer when he is underwater
that makes totally sense because fire burns well underwater
steam bath?
lightning should deal doubled damage underwater tho, that would be immersive and logical ngl
did anyone else here ever try playing Spellbreak?
Ranger arrows ignoring the laws of physics underwater too even tho only crossbows should work there
or like massive AOE damage everywhere its wet lmao (toaster in the bathtub meta)
Druid might be bis now because the treant is supposed to be stronger if summoned underwater ... its no joke its actually like that but was very nieche due the lack of underwater segments
I wonder how well bear will swim tho š
Sorcerer new DLC will be use lighting storm underwater and change the environment to become a MAELSTROM. Am I hired?
But all jokes aside, I like that they go into such a tricky direction and test a new type of map with such mechanics, its def not the easy way and shows effort and if they really bring that out they would gain back my respect
Anyone know if this is the last week for religion
had a looooong break from this game. Still any good ?
29% positive stream review
Dang thats not good xD i heard something about they deleted solo's, duo's?
deleted from normals now planned to be from hr
Hmm okay ill give it go and see for myself š ty dude
don't have high expecations
do we lose all the religion donation rewards too? or will they be reclaimable?
Normally the general chat is full off players whining and crying i dont see anyone typing right now xD so i think the game is at a shit state atm ppl just gave up xD
it's like patch 69 but people used to it
The skeleton skin you will keep, that I can tell you for sure
skins and blue/red shards
sorry for asking didnt play i a bit. did they remove true phys damage ?
no they didnt
No
ok thx
that sucks, i reinstalled the game a week ago, im having fun but second i look at discord everyone is complainig, idk wtf did they do but i hope the game doesnt die lol
I cant enter the game no more because of the tvk.sys driver of the anticheat I have no idea what to do , and this game has been BSOD my pc lately too now I cant even enter
Some people just need to grow up and self reflect more
FKING FIX THE CLASS BARBARIAN!!!!!!!!!!! ITS BROKEN SHT ASS GAME, JUST CHECK STATISTIC ALMOST EVERYONE PLAYS THAT CLASS BECAUSE ITS UNBALANCED AS IT IS!!!!!!!!
guys does goblin merchant just dont work?
Devs have been recieving harrassment for 2 weeks and it's setting back updates because toxic fans can't cool down. Let devs do their job in peace and show more respect, game is doing great
hopesworry is blatantly esping
that sucks, if they are not happy just play something else instead of harrasing the devs, thats wild
btw hate speech isnt free speech. This isn't trying to criticize and work with IronMace to fix things. This is a hate campaign based off wicked and false lies
Its still free
Nope, Hate speech is not free speech, period. Do better than find ways to demean others
Idk why it's not obvious troll but I'll let you know you are getting baited and trolled by the furry
Heh well you will learn one way or another its okay champ
huh??
He has a history of rage baiting in chat and deceivingly spitting white knight propaganda to annoy people here around, take what he says with a bag of salt, not a grain
When several youtubers from community are leaving and exposing games/devs not to mention community isnt happy and pop been droppingā¦. Sure its doing better in one way of thinking
goblin merchant doesnt work on highroller anymore??
What do you guys think about introducing solos and duos in normal for Legendary users only? I am sure that consumer research would show a lot of people would value Legendary higher, increasing their willingness to buy the status. It might be outside the current vision of the game, but I'm extremely sure this would increase sales in a noticeable way. This would also thin the communication gap between devs and community, that right now is hurting player count (and sales) quite a bit. You guys are a company, and need to sell. Be smart about it. Make the community happy and make some money while at it...
like you
''white knight propaganda'' wtf lol
You can see it live right now, just spectate it
It's already been proven a week ago these youtubers collaberated together to attack ironmace and spread fake news and info around the game. NotLikethem has sent their toxic troll base here to divide and sew division in the community
please go to sleep or sm
Its not just notlikethem anymore like you keep spouting
in the end its just a game, instead of moving on people are stuck here complainin and its funny to see
These youtubers are pushing out "evidence" with nothing to back their claims, They just send people here to spam their videos for clicks and clout
copium
Have you watched them at all?
I saw the new guy around flair, Idc which side of this you're on I just wanted you not to get trolled for free
cant you gem true phys?
no he hasnt hes talking out of his ass
You can, with red gem
SDF and Graysun have done everything to deliver and now we are witnessing innocent people pay the toll for campaigns based off deception and clout gain
doesnt show up for me
dont worry, im on no ones side, im just trying to enjoy gaming, its just funny to see everytime i look at that discord its people complaining about the state of the game, if you aint happy just leave lol
Oh I know im trying get him tripping over his logic, im sitting in traffic ( as a passenger) trying to pass time
It may be that you already have a bonus from that group, additional phys or additional magic or it's not on the right item (rings, gloves etc)
SDF kitchen had great updates and the trolls won by lying and saying nasty things to the poor man, Now it's gone. thanks guys
ok thanks
You should make a video exposing these trolls
he doesnt check anything himself he just assumes this guy is right i mean what can you do
The amount of players with ESP is disgusting
Real
I have thought about it, I might. Steam is stepping in right before next wipe happens to remove the fake negative review bomb.
fake review bomb? people made negative reviews because devs are clueless
bruh HR trios forgotten castle is just non existent today huh
I have already exposed multiple trolls in the chat and got them removed for good. I speak to a few developers to help out the community
Probably be better option to reach out a lotta folk with a video
do you read sdf's kitchen at all or no?
its not gone
As sad as it is, this furry troll is the only content we get from Iron Mace
Yeah you show em bud
ah hes a furry my bad, mental disease
Yea unfortunately dudes opinion holds 0 weight
it did kinda untill i clicked on his discord profile
Probably gonna get wardens giving you a warning here soon if I assume I know what he is doing
Made another report, Dnd chat is for everyone.
never said it isnt, just pointing out your mental disease
There are bigger problems in the world right now than costumes and game updates @barren path People are being targetered, arrested and deported for the color of their skin, let's do better as people and put our anger and frustration into protecting others
xD
you can help the cause by not forming an opinion
Please no po litical talk in game discussion
If there are bigger problems than costumes then why are you a furry? Seems counter-productive
xDDDD
SHEEESH
you are against your vision lycan
Being able to cosplay and perform for the community is a great thing and makes people's day! This is what we need more of to put smiles on people again
Once again, trolls don't even have a viable response
im speechless thats why
It's time to reflect and think my friend
š¤ um excuse me sirs but this is game discussion
btw, who is getting "targeted, arrested, and deported" for the color of their skin
they cant help themselves..
Holy piss servers
I know its fun to watch
Well i can't mention too much more, but they start with I and they need to stop and do better to. They are "Federal agents"
surely yyoure not talking about the millions of mexicans illegaly crossing the border to USA
fun and sad lmao
Not illegal to be human, and not engaging in this, I reported you to mods for your racial comment
they are not the problem, they have citizenship
But I like mexicans...
Bad faith conversations get you nowhere...
My Disappointment with the Game's Progress
To be honest, from the moment I started playing this game, I only ever found three dungeons. I initially thought, "Only three dungeons? That must be because the game is still in beta." I genuinely expected many, many more maps to be added in the future, as the core of this game is all about dungeon exploration.
However, after a full year, those same three dungeons are still all there are. Not a single new dungeon has been added. I was expecting at least one new dungeon monthly, or at the very least, every season.
Currently, the developers are keeping players busy with character and item changes, but all this really does is distract us from the truth: there's nothing new. The game still only has three dungeons, and it's become incredibly boring. Who wants to spend their time repeatedly playing the same dungeons? Where's the fun of discovering new ones? What exactly has the game's management been doing all this time?
so if someone enters your house you have to call the police and they get arrested but if they cross the border illegaly were supposed to let them be ?
How are you gonna bring up a topic then go cry to the mods? Soft.. just soft
quick question. IS there any reason specific why barbs are the fastest strongest and most defenseive class in norms?
Devs are facing harrassment because of a fake hate campaign led by youtubers trying to get clicks. Don't worry really good update on the way from IronMace
They got buffed not too long ago
stop talking to him
I'd say that's ranger or sorcerer, barb is up there but 3rd place
i would argue that, i keep getting 2-3 shot as a barb
The problem lies when it's bad faith and hate speech
well barbs 1 shot so 2-3 shots is 200-300% better then everyone else
you are giving him more material to rage bait
wtf 1 shot? never had that happens when i play barb, i always need to hit em like 3 times
Just because someone enters your home doesn't give you the right to shoot them or call the police, this is literally a violent, brutish way of thinking.
sure when you use a torch it will prob take like 3 hits
im not using a torch?
hahahha what are you saying
As long as they say whose a good boy in the process huh?
When i play barb im not 1 shotting people because I stack more vigor/dex and movement speed so I can engage and disengage at will so 2-3 may e four if I land body shots is normal
I said in norms. Barbs base stats + perks make them literal gods in norm lobbies
if someone enters your home just let him live in there might as well
Runs as fast as a rogue. defense of a pl8t fighter. Magic resist of a lock with perks. Can't be knocked back. Debuffs attack damage slows
yeah whenever i use rage + slow em down, they dont die in 2 hits
I agree with this. We ran in to 3x barbs. it was over in 10 sec, we all died instantly
If a barbarian kills a sorc or a ranger is a missplay on their side, not barbarian being op. He is strong after the buffs but not as you say.
Yea why else have an extra room right
Give the barb to someone who knows what they are doing they can 1 v 3 in normals. Infact I saw it once
@storm reef I agree with all that but if you know what your doing you can easily counter a barb with whatever your playing some more tedious but doable
sponsor him a green card too
Don't forget to offer them a few beers while you do the paper work
Im just saying they need to give up something. They can not have the most defenses. The most Mobility. and the most damage
please can someone explain why the anticheat is causing me BSOD ? tvk.sys?!!?!?!
@storm reef very true there's not really a give or take with barbs...I mean you'd think a war maul barb would be slow..nope
Farming frozen hearts is impossible on pve lmao no one gives courtesy they could be on their fourth wendigo kill and they still ape the room your clearly working on, its hilarious how thirsty people are in damn pve bro 𤣠making me want to play pvp so i can kill the goblins aping every wendigo triplestack warlock
I like to spectate them and see that they don't have enough escapes, too many people go down nowadays
Why are 90% of solo hr lobbies warlocks
The vision
Easiest class to solo boss
Prob because they clear mobs fast
It's the vision, even PvE should be done from range
broski lets just demolish borders its that easy right there totally wont be a consequence that some people want to stay with their own
A lot of bosses actually are better to kill with melee even as a lock you would use a lnog sword
Its illegal to break laws dunce your the only one mentioning race
anyone knows a good site for maps? i looked up the map for the outside dungeon but i think its out of date, need to do some quests outside
there's nothing that's not out of date on maps/quests. have to ask here
@glad thunder @zinc sparrow unique/artifact in arenas when?
im talking about websites with maps, not the actual quests or map in game
nobody is updating those websites anymore cuz there's barely any players left
so no then lol
Dark and Darker Interactive Map & Dark and Darker Quest Tracker were probably the best but yeah outdated
The website guy left so expect delay
I have 150x golden teeth saved up but still haven't found how to craft grimsmile rings
You craft them at the alchemist after you have the needed affinity
All the modules are there, and what's in them. Just the maps are randomized now so the order shown isn't going to line up in game
You sir are a bot. Do quests for the alchemist and you unlock the crafting recipe
facts. i would try to use darkanddarkertrackerdotcom
says in game theres 7k dungeon and 5k lobbies, how many players is that approximatively?
a whole lot less than there used to be
10k probably
Used to be 10-15k dungeon bro
yeah it does suck playing a game that feels empty player wise
it feels like an abandoned dead zone. unless you come to discord which is alive with people who don't play anymore and just want to see the pain
Is there any way to report those bots in trade? I played for so long but never tried
well i'll find another game lol, anyway all i see here is complaining, worse than the tarkov discord
I can lift a fully grown horse above my head and I can hold my breath for 15 minutes. To settle a wager, I once drank 2 and a half bottles of the strongest rat poison and then ran 10 km while yodeling the russian alphabet backwards. I cant feel pain and can see upto a 100km unaided by lens. I've beaten a man of every race in formal combat including a Turk, a Texan Caucasian, a Nigerian and a very rare salt water Chineez. A medical doctor and 3 priests have written and signed a document confirming I have no soul.
@zinc sparrow https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1383341062277562438 brother how about some content that didn't exist 6 months ago?
This post is hilarious š
rare salt water chineez gave me the rest š
so based on greysuns newest drop, this means its a whole lotta nothing happeing
it was cool while it lasted, but this game is gonna fall off like lethal company
Can anyone tell me which merchant gives the resting skin?
Yo guys i was afk doing something on my pc when my teammate almost killed me. I killed him before he was able to end me and left. Could i get baned for that?
@zinc sparrow @glad thunder I'll write the community a message for you since you're inept.
"Dear valued players, as you probably know IM has recently lost a lawsuit despite it having no basis, and now has to pay a large sum of money. Unfortunately this will inevitably have a negative impact on our schedule for upcoming content releases for DaD. However, rest assured we are dedicated to standing with our player base and holding the line. Please bear with us and we will keep you as updated as possible during these hard times and get through it together. As we will not be able to release all of the content on the schedule originally planned, we will be polling our player base for which content is more import to them and prioritizing that. As always, we appreciate your continued support!"
i wish i made it myself... but yeah i found it funny too š
No, you only get some timer and maybe red name, not that big of a deal
ok thanks :D
Hi, i am struggling really bad with spectral knight, i am kind of new to the game and i have attempted this boss for about 20 times and i still cant get the hang of it if anyone would be willing to help
Their announcement guy left, give them a break.
@boreal flame Where did you go, they need you to defend
Lmao, there are people who go into hr and kill tm8s over and over. Still unbanned, dont do it again (or have video proof he tried to kill you) and you will be fine.
They never ban anyone for team killing as of now
now game discussion will be filled non game related wall of text ty
That is exactly what i just said my friend.
Grow up and reflect more on how you treat others, the majority of the community stands with the devs so drop the hate. The reason Graysun and SDF are getting this much criticism was based off false info to begin with
I know, this chat is quite dead anyways
Mid season going to start soon and a huge player spike will happen
Why people keep writing lies about Iron Mace losing the suit?
The Judge cleared them in all the accusations, the money they "have to pay" is still being challenged in court because they won and it doesn't make sense to pay it.
I know you're mad and hate SDF and the game, but lying won't help you
I forgot to @ the Crazy too and get my pringles, mb
it being dead could get him banned faster, mod opening game discussion to see ts
They were found guilty of stealing intellectual property where they not? They didnt get a clear win
Yet everyday you're here chatting more than me, i love haters who keep the game alive
I think this new update will be the best one š„ Good point about the lawsuit, it shows that IronMace does have a good reputation but this time it's with bad actors on youtube trying to get clicks for their lies
xDDD
You are either extremely naive and young, or you are deluded. Christ
No, they have been found not guilty, the money they "have to pay up" was because of some insane conclusion that the judge had about even if they didn't do anything wrong it still hurt them (nexon), it's a stupid decision and probably will be tossed out.
IronMace and good reputation does not go hand in hand, they literally STOLE the game
u getting paid or what??? xD
any lag fixes for my friend its def not his internet its consisted server lag
The facts are that the game is still doing better than ever, Steam is going to remove the fake negative reviews and trolls like you are going to be removed for trying to divide the cool community here
See, the discussion has fired nicely
Okay now i know you are trolling ahahaha
It's not trolling, people like you need to go pal, you spread hate, and toxic behaviors
bring back named/unique arena
"game is doing better then ever" but has dwindling player count. Bro u are just stupid or on IM payroll
Bro I just find insane how some people literally lie about things you can google in 1 sec and see that's wrong, it requires a especial type of person to act like this
skull keys are almost under 3k right meow....
IF..there is a bro out there....who just...simply...doesnt give much of a F about the game right now....would you consider finding it in your heart, to give your sk's to me, so that i may have a little fun with my all time dream weapon, the Viola, paired with my 105% action speed rogue kit for pve to have some GOOD fun for a day before wipe....i would never forget you
I'm playing the game and it's fun as hell
No need for insulting others in here, please
Give it a rest Dave, this guy is clearly trolling ahahaa
It's the end of mid season, player numbers will show lower for right now, you'll be coming in next week flabbergasted at how wrong you are
The rules stand
Fair enough. Appreciate the non paid work IM have you doing looool
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Why are you trying to demean others so much, it's so nasty and rude.... I feel so bad for Developers who have had their livelihood in harms way over this type of dangerous thinking
Thank you
do you keep everything in arena?
it did worked
I can just picture what you look like irl.
Iron Mace could help us out posting the ruling in somewhere here, so it's easy to debunk people lying, i hate posting links
how would "rules" debunk someone from lying though? i just got here so i dont know what the topic is currently about
Honestly I could deal with this game's updates if they gave barb crossbow, double jump, and curse of pain
Why can't you take a step back to self reflect? This is the only language you know and it's very harmful to ones life. you don't need to live with these resentments and aggression towards others.
Same if they'd give cleric crystal sword and the ability to increase the range of the sword like the warlord boss
Do you think I'm a good looking guy?
Leave it be please, we looked into it
People keep lying in here about Iron Mace losing the lawsuit, it's a pain to explain and i don't link to post external links
Understood, thank you.
This is probably the best idea next to giving barb the bard songs
just one person lied about it
Today
People would rather believe what they want to believe in their head unfortunately or whatever a youtuber might say to get clicks
doesn't matter
You have point tho, people always tryna play bully
To you*
not everyone logical listens and gets their idea from youtubers
The truth should always prevail, and that's what will happen. IM will be cleared of wrong doing again and it only makes their reputation that much stronger
@sdf should also consider giving barb a longsword
brother... $5.9 millionnn in damage as court ruling?!?!?! u living behind moon or what
And zweihander a riposte
war maul repost would be tight
You are the only one crying about it
Literally a made up number, there was no wrongdoing and IM was cleared
check news.. hahahahh
misinformation stays as misinformation, they will learn one day
Don't believe everything you read on the internet, the court documents were the real evidence and IM was cleared by a judge and found no wrongdoings from them
This over here is the problem, the medium guy doesn't know the difference between being found guilty, not guilty and being sentenced to pay money.
People think that just because the Judge ordered Iron Mace to pay a insane fine that won't hold up in the appeal means they lost the case.
Love having quests that require me to go to a module that doesn't exists, then giving a penalty for leaving the match to reload the modules.
@barren path Do you agree with what @median holly says? I'm curious of your opinion
u really think u can come up to me with that logic of twisted truth ?? I hope u get paid well
Okay, i'm going to have to stop you there, there was a ruling, IronMace is appealing the decision, that number isn't made up
module system is so unfinished
even mod says that you are wrong
We could very well have a nice looking channel in the discord with the Judicial ruling in english and KR, this way people who don't know how the judicial world works could understand things better about the lawsuit
did you even stop to consider about the possibility that maybe, JUST maybe @boreal flame just trying to simply be hopeful and positive? theres nothing wrong with that if you arent aware š its ok to be optimistic and such, whats not ok though is to pull the trigger on a person who means no harm in anyway. if you dont have anything positive to add to a subject of conversation why would you even say anything at all
can you shorten his yappery i cant be asked to read it
It takes a special kind of creativity to build a game on stolen Nexon data, get sued and then pretend the whole thing was part of some grand master plan.
Over $5.9 million in damages? Oh well, just a small price to pay when you never intended to create a second functional game anyway.
The truth is: Dark and Darker would never have existed without the groundwork laid by Nexon's Project P3. Ironmace grabbed a ready-made recipe, half-cooked the dish, sold itāand now? Well, if you never learned to cook, the buffet doesnāt last long.
He tries to be defensive like belly rub lycan but edgy
they got sentenced but they still can defend the case or something like that
heres my hot take on this.
once you throw it in the trash....it becomes public property :)
i wish it was 100 million
being aggresively is not normal
Well nexon said the Idea was stolen, while they worked at Nexon, Nexon are attempting to copy-right Ideas from someones else's head
also dont get me started on this belly rub lycan guy again like wtf are you doin pretending ur some telly tubie fookin plushie
So the judge hit them with a $6 million fine just for taking out the trash?? Thatās why the lawyers had the case moved to the US??"
he is ragebaiting
No no, he is fine, the Crazy guy I think you'd like more, he is edgy
crazy guy propably drank beer once in his life and acting all tough and shi
Look at the guy, now he just lying, by the same court filing you're citing the number and saying you know about.
The court ruled that Dark and Darker had nothing about the P3 project in it zero and that no information they learned was used in Dark and Darker.
What caused the fine was the judge ABSURD interpretation that what SDF learned working in Nexon helped to create Dark and Darker, yea that's true but so it's to everything in life, your previous boss doesn't own your knowledge nor the skills you learned this isn't going to hold up in the appeal, and next time you want to pose as knowing this maybe read it before hand?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1j4wuqp/a_korean_news_article_covering_the_lawsuit/
I can't xDD
why you so involved bro go pay it if you this involved in it
anyone got any extra gear they can donate i want a end of wipe kit so anything help pls and thx
I hate lying pricks
Kindof a crime they haven't given barb a rogue's invis perks
go pay 6mil and in exchange you get removal of solos duos and no quiver for next year
Even more people who pose as saying the truth and are straight up lying.
are you reading out top10 sigma quotes to me ?
Is there a small chance, we get artefacts in arena for the last couple days? (Sitting here with my 250k Catice set...š¤£)
so why is that I cant change the keybinds to divid items, send one by one or send them all at one. And who thought that the default keybinds are good??
Youre going to get it nerfed lol
"The court ruled on 13th that there was no basis to conclude that Dark and Darker infringed on Nexonās unpublished project (P3) copyrights, while recognizing that there was a trade secret infringement involving unauthorized use of internal plans and source code during the development process, ordering Ironmace to pay 8.5 billion won in damages." Can you read? They used internal plans and source code directly taken from NEXON?
developer currently trying his hardest not to listen to community so you shouldnt say those things
Yeah, looks like itās gonna be more than $5.9 million now... Do you even get what any of that says?? (donāt answer, thatās rhetorical)
any one else having extremely bad sound tearing and frame drops in forgotten castle
I like my undead cockatrice making sounds after it's dead, thanks sdf
According to my lawyer that passed the bar, Crazy has no idea what he's saying
ue5 optimization
did someone say sigma quotes???
Sometimes, you goto hurt your self just to get better, it wont be easy. in fact it might be the hardest thing you ever do in your life, but you will get better
sometimes you goto make the wrong choices for the right reasons
im neither a grower OR a show- wait this isnt a sigma quote....walks away casually
Bro , you could have a NASA PC and that will still lag
crazy is ragebaiting
Just letting you know I blocked you both. Iām not going to waste my time if you canāt even readāthatās my baseline. At that point, I might as well be talking to a door. If you canāt understand a basic Reddit post, maybe thatās a sign itās time to get some help.
I have 4090 and I have 0 tho
its because optimization is poo poo and all the torches are rendered even when you dont see them
According to my Discord Blocking expert, you have not blocked me yet.
#awkward.....for him...i think....idk
0 lag? So you dont experience a little bit of choppyness. Because i have a similar build to you and in some places it is very noticeable. Frame drops are quite consistent, but with every other map i get 0 lag anywhhere no matter what.
Why would I? you don't seem insane or anything
well my discord blocking exper was right
You're just mostly trolling I don't mind it, nothing wrong with just a bit of trolling
W counter rage bait
I'm running a 5070 and a ryzen 7 5800x3d and ruins is barely playable
just fire sdf and release the underwatermap and we gucci ... also dont make 1v3 a thing, then everybody happy
Nope, unless you can tell me one spot specifically to test, so far I haven't had any of this. I'm not defending their optimization, far from me of that, I'm merely neutral in this chat making sure the right people meet.
It is usually when you first spawn in, where there is alot of mobs and other entities that have to be rendered in etc. But that is very interesting because most people i know also struggle to achieve high frames. Maybe you just have a goat PC lmao
According to my game optimization expert, sdf doesnt care
trollish team mates suck
Do you play on max graphics etc? or have you turned them down?
Yes, try looking for group in the disc
Everything max, this is not CS:GO to play in minecraft graphics. But to be fair I also run ark ascended nicely and I see a lot of complaints about that game too. I thought it's just the 4090 aging nicely
Yeah 4090 is a very good card. Better than any of the 50 ai slop cards they just released. Yeah you see im the opposite, on rust (a game known for bad optimisation) my pc tanks also. I honestly think youre processor and graphivcs card are carrying lol
Dude, youāre seriously embarrassing yourself. Youāre out here trying to make a point in some twisted alternate reality where nothing adds up. Like... even your links donāt make sense?? At this point, I honestly have to wonder if youāre just trolling hard or if someone ā not naming names, cough Ironmace cough ā actually hired you to spread this nonsense. You guys must really think the whole community is stupid. Pathetic.
hes a troll
is this game good yet
Not while you keep coming here
thx for that update-- goood LORD
https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713 You can check this then you tell me
rude and reported
@barren path bro as soon as you left he started being edgy again xD
A whining one, they love being sassy but get hurt easily
man ive got no faith in this turning out good, this new wipe is going to make things fun for like 5 runs then ill just get bored of how nothing has changed and stop playing till the next change which will still add nothing and just do more modifications to existing content
you couldnt even survive my level 1 dungeon and your pc would get like 10 fps
The only fun I have is playing shepherd for timmies in PvE mode that die to skeletons
I'm waiting for the next season to see how things will go but yeah, after the Soma and Odin podcast the morale is low
i hate timmies in the game, i try to do solos or trios and getting a timmy as a teammate in HR is a nightmare
the worst are the idjits that just agro the entire room accidentaly and it gets you all killed because you loaded in a minute late or some random bs
They need to upgrade the party mode of this game we needs pings at the bare minimum or map location of the party members
time to find a new game to play full time lil bro or a job at kurber bing
Minecraft might be more your speed
you might like fortnite better, they have kendrick lamar skin, maybe u mum can get u enough fortnite bux for it
Bro it's a needed for players playing without discord, the game needs more methods to organize the group, otherwise you have to way to help or signal new players in game
You're in a game with 2 randoms, if one of them doesn't have a mic, it's already a lost scenario right now
Definitely not needed. Use voip. Build map knowledge.
How map knowledge will help me find the newbie who wandered off?
when i first joined this game the first thing i noticed was for trios and duos theres no way to find a group theres no true lobbies and discord is the only way i can find someone decent to play with or im at the whims of the randoms maybe ill find a good person who helps me or a person who wants to keep playing but other than that the game feels like a single player game with multiplayer aspects as light seasoning
Not your problem - if you voip to no response, make irl friends that have discord
glad you're not a dev
what are you in life exactly ?
Me when my irl friends dont want to play this dog game anymore
Went from like 7 ppl to 2
We went from 11 to 1
too much testosterone for him
He got the confidence boost to tell timmy that the game is worse bcs of him xDD
You mean what I do for a living? I'm doing a master's in biotech, i get paid to study basically
is it possible to queue up with more than 3 people and guarentee you get into the same instance
he is on his villian arc he had enough
you mean like queue sniping?
i guess. but like a 9 man party of people in vc all working together to clear all the floors
It's hard to do, it's sniping and unless you sit in discord counting down doing it at the same time, it won't happen
what do you do as biotech do you just sniff flowers all day trying to find the 3 chromosomes?
I think you could do it if you play on like OCE at a quiet time of the day. Ive seen chinese people team on OCE
My work line is towards insects to be more specific Aedes aegypti, we search things related to it, usually to understand or exterminate it
It's looks fun but it isn't that fun
can you find the 1 insect from korea thats ruining a popular video game?
wtf is wrong with the game ? it kicks me recently from matches so often its unplayable
sdf

That happened to my friend and he was having some drops in internet.
Sometimes when this happens i just restart the pc
never had this issue until recently
how do i make the latern shield shine light do i gota stick a latern in it
game literally goes worse and worse and devs are making worse decisions every season, including this insanely high loot rate
R i think to turn on your lantern
You press R
The lantern shield light is horrible tho, i disliked it
yeah its like dim and pointing to the side unless you shield up
its better than 0 light doe
True
true if you're like a bard and cant really run torch
After the light update the game has places with zero light and that's a pain
best double handed weapon for barbarian rn?
I play mine with grimslayer for fun but I think bardiche it's quite good from what I'm hearing. Honestly if you're not sure just try in arena and see what you like, maybe craft something.
SDF resign
Goblin nutsack update when
yeah ive been using bardiche I just remember it was better a year ago

I just want a dwarf skin and the monk class, a dwarf punching people is my dream
Ok fine but dwarves are constantly crouched and move at that speed
That's the terrifying part of monk dwarfs they're fast
In 5e sure
@fresh niche new announcement
Bro monks in 5E are a menace, but in high levels everything is a menace. but monks movement just breaks the game
Screenshot looks good. Hopefully the actual map is much darker. Ice caves is essentially glowing. Too many torches in this game are turned on by default.
Anyone knows what the warlock says when he transforms?
Jokes on you, I killed all barbs even with druids buffing behind them so far
In arena that is
That barb can't wear bonnet is a huge nerf
And maid outfits
They better add a pirate Cutlass
barb basically needs shang tsung's abilities
Definitely, we go full Jack Sparrow and he'd def do that
Sdf runs this game like monkey throwing levers
imagine a jack sparrow walking emote
The real DLC we need
5 dll new pay to win emote
nerf every class!
They adding pirate class š
Maybe 
new weapons with it too
game version is bad
Wonder if breathing underwater will be a thing
hopefully the game won't be a thing
Scimitar would be pretty cool too 
They'll have snorkels
that would be HILARIOUS
Just seeing em poke out the water š
Dolphin form is coming for druid in prep for water level
DO NOT give them any ideas
Totsugeki š¬
got that damn dolphin squeek noise stuck in my head now ty
lol
if they do this then I can only assume the devs really want all non-druid players to simply suffer lmao
Hope we get another new zombie skin with the water map
Barbs get whaling spears in the update
oooh a throwable spear would be dope for Barb and fighter!
Cleric still needs more range too tho, not sure if they could add a water map themed weapon but I'd like to see a guiding bolt spell or skill
the silver bows dont make sense. how is the material my bow is made out of going to change the damage of the arrow it fires. and unlike real life where an iron bow may have a weaker pull weight vs a bow made of steel, its also about the string, but a bow made of silver shouldnt deal more damage to undead, it sh ould be silver arrows
This zombie skin is for the water map
you're right, but needing to craft silver arrows constantly to replenish them would SUCK compared to other classes getting to craft a single silver weapon and then use it til the player dies
a quiver of silver liquid sure would of fixed that
Cleric is getting holy water for the new water map
Teeeeechnically you could argue that the silver powder is not well imbued into the item and sticks to the arrow, very stretched but no other explanation
I've been waiting for 10 minutes now and I am still waiting to get my gear back from the Goblin doing Ice Caverns Adventure... Did they remove the gear return option in Adventure? wth is happening?
how would holy water function??
turns the water yellow like gas cloud but kills any undead inside it
ill turn your water yellow
oooh okay! ...but also why yellow?! lmao people are gonna call it the cleric's piss cloud! lmao
Like in Castlevania, you'll throw a flask of it. It's all water themed for new awesome map!
Cleric will dip his body into the water thus blessing it for +3 all to teamates
Man, i'm gonna keep playing this pile of shit in anticipation of the new awesome water map!
They've got me hooked
idk I just want Cleric to get Guiding Bolt, they can already use explosive bottles for a throwable. Imagine they have a spell that's like Wiz Magic Missile or Sorc Flame Arrow except it's a single bright bolt that causes the target to glow for a short time if hit
Some kinda divine bolt yea
Can someone name me a less viable build for solos than caster cleric?
No holy water, releases a magic lightning bolt like you said and shoots through walls before exploding and blinding everyone in a radius. It's next patch.
Remember when Sorc lighting bolt could go through walls? We dont need that again.
that'd also be a cool idea for a ranged cleric spell
Magic damage ranger
barb seriously needs a buff
*bard
you guys are seriously misspelling ranger
They're adding it with dolphin form for druid before the new awesome water map
fist fighter fighter
I've heard that the game turned to absolute garbage in the past months. Worse than 6 months ago. How was it possible ?
good point, but this wouldn't be a continuous damage spell like the sorc lightning bolt, it'd be more like hellfire maybe?
It's only possible with these developers, if you can call them that
You're getting dangerously close to no spell naked wizard
nerf bard
Any details ?
Why don;t they just look when this game was most popular and like , make the game like that XD
Barb*
BUT MUH VISION

I found gameplay footage of the very first versions of the game. How hard is it to not fuck up ?
I'm sorry it's so many things and I've ranted about them on here for so long, along with everyone else, that I couldn't even begin at this point. They think they're gonna save the game now with a water map.
Make Bard a ranger. Flute shoots sleep darts
Man, why is the Goblin Merchant not giving me my gear back from Adventure WTF?...
The main issue I had was gameplay loop was broken because 90% of fights were finished in 4 seconds, with normal gear. Did they fix that ?
Sorcerer can use his cool mud shield to fend off the pirates on the awesome new water map!
insane this game went downhill so quickly, wont be another like it for some time, wish they had competent developers, pray someone buys them out when they claim bankruptcy
Did you die to the void? if so then you lose everything (for some stupid reason)
who f* care about a water map ?
Why does kettle hat exist. Itd stats are ass, just give it to bard.
Im not allowed to say dog sh it
I did man if that is the case, that is ridiculous.. I lost 20k set because of that..
For the fashion roleplayers
No one except some really hopeful kids
Awtysm
Why is this game so horrible made? I did not pay money for this...
Yeah like there is no reason why that wouldn't give you you're kit back , also can't see anywhere that says you will lose it, Devs need a lesson about intuitiveness
Ironmace stole all the source code from Nexon
How to counter barb in common lobby?
Mosquito rogue
unironicaly might believe this at some point no ?
I'm getting more and more disappointed... what a shame.. Do not want to see the game die.. but with dev like that, i don't see a good future for us
I don't know about you guys but they've got me hooked playing again now that they're stringing everyone along with tidbits of the awesome new water map! These guys are good! Forget a functioning game, you can just string ppl along indefinitely. That'll work!
The only way they'll convince me otherwise is when they start releasing content at the rate they did in the first year, and not just assets from the unreal store.
They really do that ?
Honestly I don't mind buying assets, as long as they rig them to have nice attacks etc
Id exclusively play high roller if I didnt have friends to do trios with.
Uh
Uhhhh
Uuuuuhhhhhhh
Remember the skeleton shielder being unparryable?
WE DO NOT SPEAK OF BUGS HEREEEEE
whys searching for duos HR as a solo taking over 5 minutes
Yeah but the water map is going to worth it all. It'll save the game. Sorcerer will be able to shoot water bubbles and mud shields to block the pirates.
6k ppl playing, half in game I'd imagine so 3k ppl split among normals, adventure, and all the hr modes and arena if it's open idr and that's saying that most of them are queuing and not just afk or making kits
Also factoring the fact that hr duo is a paid feature so not everyone has access
do higher tier lanterns provide better light or just more magical damage when you throw them
Guys I'm big mad š the game is the same but it's popular to take our tiny rage of our lives out on it so I'm going to sit here and say with no context how the game needs a million new contents (what exactly that should be idk I'm the best dev tho (didn't someone say quivers?)) Yes so buff ranger they have it so hard right now. Also we n need to make a collection for Bill gates he can barely afford to suppress industry competition these days and I hear he needs a new island poor guy ā¤ļø Please give with all you have and keep the hate flowing through you. Together we can make the world a worse place.
Just more attribute rolls
4 man squads would be better since they borrow alot from the dnd format. and maybe give us paladins samurai and maybe a gunner who uses black powder weapons. and before u say no guns pillars of eternity has hand guns and rifles they are high damage weapons but have low dps as the reloading eats up alot of time
er dark and darker peak og super godt?
ur washed
Is dark and darker peak and good?
Srsly wtf is going on in the devs heads? They complain about dead lobbies but add new maps to spread out the lobbies even harder? At least bring back the map rotation for that.
godt daniel
Welcome to the server
Implementing squads would be a balancing nightmare and we'd be stuck in the same back and forth for another 3 years and they're already implementing a gun available to all classes in season 7
Is it just me that has no interest in playing with randoms?
randoms are mostly bleh to play with
it saves queues but makes it annoying as some stacks run only crypts or only caves both in dark and darker and delta force
Some lobbies dead >>>>> all lobbies dead
Id you have a measurably better alternative to that end I want to hear it.
nah there's plenty of people that feel that way.
SDF says he ideally wants people to be able to queue into the same match with any party size, but tbh I'm having a hard time seeing how they could make that work. Imo it'd be a miracle if they found a good way to address the inherent advantage trios have over smaller parties without ruining the balance of PvP in other areas
I've had exactly one positive experience with randoms, but if it was high roller, fuck me, i'd get teamkilled for taking the better loot.
they should let pve be solos or duos only and reducec the quality of the loot. or simply increase the number of mobs and powers of the mobs since the real threat of DaD is other players in pvp so u can have empty rooms in pvp and just add more chest or things to touch that either make players rush to that spot or take a long time looting if they plan to clear out the entire room
this will never work in this game, its not like tarkov where you can headshot ppl so having still pretty good chance to fight teams as a solo
Maybe if they took friendly fire off then that would stop that (edit: that probably wouldn;t work due to some spells needing to hurt to give buffs etc)
Windlass ranger would like to know your location
This is my BOOMSTICK!!
it would be made work with basic programming
guess what ironmace devs do not have
Id prob quit the game if they ass muskets. Nobody shoukd have access to an instakill from your toolbelt
Nerf ranger, nerf barb
Also barb still has an instakill skill (thats paradoxically useless in normals)
i didn't play a lot this wipe. Any feedback? is it good or worse? xd
maybe inaccurate and only one tap with headshot muskets?
I dunno i wouldnt mind a handgonne as long as it didnt have a headshot multi. Like generally speaking getting headshot sucks but getting headshot by the highest damaged ranged weapon in the game would be insta unfun
tbh I agree. Super Short ttk is the only way I can think of to give skilled solos and duos a fighting shot against trios, but this game does not feel good when PvP is over after a single good hit. If SDF or anyone in IM has ideas for how else to implement mixed party queues then I'm curious to see it
worse than ever this game been
Would you mind expanding a bit?
anyone else get a glitch where they have 0 audio
In short: it is like patch 69 but it is not getting fixed and devs are lot blinder
Lowest player count. All lobbies dead lobbies for most of the day. Normals trios only. Normals can no longer bring gear from grades uncommon or above. Boss snipping worse than ever. Barb more OP than ever. Everyone is move speed capped.
true, they should if anything increase the TTK, so there is more skill involved but having solo ques was not a problem now all these ppl that used to play blue lobbie solos are gone
classes not being balanced, f*ckass patches
wasn't the trio lobbies aimed to make the game more ''populated''?
If they're buffinf shart sword, can you at least cap armor pen down to 65% like all other stats? Because I've seen 200hp barbs getting tripple head tapped to the head with them.
Seems like the game is reaching a chronical state
Yes but it bleed the player count even harder. And tbf i havent noticed much of a difference as opposed to the previous wipe.
Is dark and darker peak and good?
sdf thinks this game is some shitty korean rough like game that people play with their friend for 24/7
Like last normals run i did, i went to pile in ice mountain and never heard player foot steps.
Isnt that supposed to be the maps hotspot?
it is supposed to
Ice and goblin caves are empty. Meanwhile ruins is a shithole moshpit lmao
Ruins is my chapel, leave that alone
very true, hyping people with something new ( not needed to be good) and trying to keep them ingame and make them waste money as much as they can.
Everytime i go goblin caves i get shit on by druids before i see any other class. Ice caves are a ghost town, i mainly do ruins and for whatever reason there's 8 people in the same module under a minute.
it seemed like a good game at first.. prolly time to uninstall?
I been running gobbo hr and it took 4 matches for me to see a single soul and it was a bis barb. Legit the only jit i saw in like an hour lol
Are duos disabled already? I cant get into a game
ruins is a unopimized tiny sh't hole.
You should have been around when it released on steam. It was peak up until patch 68 barring the fact there was no module randomization and players would spawn rush you
it was so fun atleast 1.5 years ago, this games time has passed.
BRUH NO WAY
fix your servers, someone is destroying them with rubber banding and lag
the servers itself is shit
Bro im being real af that shit is pure ghost theres nobody lmao
Just lost my fulgor kit cause the lag won't let me walk or switch weapons...
Is this happening on EU server? I had this happening only while selling jewelry last night
US, I'm guessing it's serverwide though (it's in game/match)
Game is in fact a little laggy
Baaahhh
I dont get it, why is it such an unpopular map? Is it because of nightmare goblin mages?
Damn just got DDOS'd mid match in PVE of all places lol
People are cheating just to grief now
Idk gang its just dead af. My ass went in squires and by the time i was dead to the barb i had solo self found like 3 legs and had copperlightfoots and copperlight gaunts lmao
It's a PvP focused map, SOLO PvP players used to spam that map to be even more precise. Most of them are on a strike since the removal of solo normals and the announcement of solo HR removal. I'd say this is one of the major causes.
Weāre up to 8k pop? What changed?
@glad thunder You promise a quiver for 3-4 seasons, just make the number of arrows 40-50.
They promised the quivers for like 2 year now. And changing the amount of arrow per stack is a good idea, so they can't do that
Changing numbers around is only for Axe Specialization
Exactly
why cant i use Chapel Der Fer helmet on ranger it looks like it was made for him
Bro they lost their INVENTORY GUY, you know their QUIVER GUY is probably still reeling from the loss. Don't even get me started on the BOOTS GUY.
It's true, this game doesn't have enough triple ranger comps in arena, let's buff it even more and give it some better items. I even suggest giving it to sorcerers it's been 2 arena games without 2 sorcerers in each team so clearly they need buffs and more items.
Can someone TLDR all the recent drama surrounding this game. Iām a casual player who hasnāt played for a couple months
sdf sucks, game sucks, graysun sucks and thinks he doesn't, graysun spineless, sdf vision is bad, gear doesn't matter, only cheat 9 times, have fun.
cat skin with tits
Sounds about right. We need our Batman back @mendo
oh is there a cap at 500 luck?
ppl starting getting pissed
Game just needs to finish dying so its swan song can be the joke sdf made of it at the end of may when he was thrown such a soft pitch to grow the playerbase. (imagine your biggest competitor closing their doors and that same week YOUR playbase drops lol)
Yo i just came back to this game after a while; is there any way to enjoy this game as a solo player anymore?
We need goblin tits pronto
If you like moving starter gear around in the stash you might have fun as a solo player, do you enjoy lobby inventory management?
Yes
ill take that as ano
You are correct. Have fun!
you should watch the dorkest hour #6, it seems to have a lot of insight to what you probably already expected about sdf and his leadership style.
ironmace please please pleas for the love of all that is good in this work fix blocking its the worsts its ever been its horrible
Actual quote from Graysun in the Tavern channel:
We have learned our lesson, and instead of trying to advise him away from what he wants, we will fully support him.
Yall really in voice chat maybe I should stop by see what yall chatting about.
gotta love your development team refusing to give advisement to their "leader"
anyone else losing 4k kits due to server lag?????
just lost a 10k kit
yes the servers haave never been worse EVER
no
and how is it i kill someone, go down a level have full inventory, die to lag and get 32 AP wtf is this???
IM GONNA PUKE I LOST MY 10K KIT TO LAG
ARE EM TEE DEV MAFIA CHALK THE GAME, SELL IT TO ACTIVISION, FIRE THE DEVS, VENDOR ALL OF THE KITS, SCRAP THE ROAD MAP, ARREST SDF
u can get AP when you die?
Thank you! If these trolls are ready to settle down then I know IronMace will make this the best update
Oh sweet summer child
You lose 10 AP if you die but if your AP gain from interactions/kills outweights that you will be positive
whats happening rn
man last time i died in highroller you just got negative ap
sdf dosent even know this channel exist. if he did maybe hed take the time to read some problems and fix it...
Here we go with another troll trying to lie about SDF
nah would take to long to sift through all the non constructive whining
Exactly, these people are sent by NotLikeThem and other bad actors trying to gain clout by attacking DnD and attacking innocent IronMace Devs
Is dark and darker peak and good?
sdf need to get fired he is killing his own game
I'll let you decide yourself https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713
no and no
i looked at lobby the other day and had a total of 6k players... u tell mme if its good
complaining while only having 10k is diabolical
SDF has done this community right and time again, stop trying to spread false info and bad faith conversations
New season starts next week, game is fine and doing better than ever
i cant tell if ur trolling lol, if hes done so good why is the game losing players faster than ever??
did the math it was a 15k kit
wtf are you talking about. You are coping so hard
Guy's trolling. Pay no heed
I have already explained twice that steam is getting involved and removing the fake negative reviews shortly before the Update
get your bag up and stop crying in a discord š
fake?? hahhahaha
Wipe will either make or kill off what remains of the dark & darker playerbase. instead of crying in #game-discussion take a break, and come back when its out! give it a try, or dont.
I'm gonna miss my 50k gold frost amulet next semi wipe. So far I haven't lost it
game is doing better than ever
i was farming ap, and the server was terminated from threats. Its actually nonsense i have no choice but to say something here.
Its actually nonsense i have no choice but to say something here š¤ āļø
bro, my point is noone should be dying to server problems and not getting their kits
Most of us here have been playing since playtest, the devs should be looking in here to see how bad their game is
bro there is only 4000 in a weekend. last season when it was 8k at least
I remember random thursday from before announcing removal of soloes duos and pve mode, 15k 15k
i bet the vin diagram overlap of ppl bitching about sdf and ppl that tell ppl to uninstall cause bad is pretty large
he deeply hates constructive whining no way you are getting him to read that
Yep. That's 10x worse than a year ago
that comment is a slight to the shitposters not sdf
this game would have been like Destiney, no one had made a game like this. Basically had a monopoly of the genre but instead squanders it.
Unfortunately for Dnd, capitalism means that eventually someone will make a better product and the customer will go there
Also unfortunately, there is no such thing rn
^tru
new age capitalism will make a more profitable product instead of better unfortunately.
A game sprouting from passion and love of the players, holding the line. Dying slowly over time due to love turning to hate and the passion becoming greed after tasting the 1st million. It's almost poetic.
Hey! That 'line' wasn't part of the developers original vision, ok?? So what if they keep redrawing the line over and over again to trip over.. I mean hold
Yo a birb
A tale of misguided ego misunderstood as a self awakening journey, the vision. Sometimes we get lost thinking about the future and ruin the present, so is the story of sdf. The whispers of the ego were too strong and already corrupted what was left of the good intentions of someone who went through working for a corporations. Unfortunately for our warrior, whatever good intentions were left after he quit were no match for the greed and the ego, the delusions of grandeur that a corporate employee is seeding every day, dreaming of getting a promotion. A tale to remember, from Dark and Darker times under sdf's vision, chapter 6.
WTF is this bullshit, now we can't launch a game with blue stuff ??
We need artefact or common stuff ?
you dont NEED artifact to do the pve option
@Graysun good boy
yeah but who plays pve -_-'" i loved using blue stuff to play pvp ....
since i don't play artefact it makes looting useless to me..
you can, just play the artifact lobby
yes but tthen you get wrecked by artefact players
ye 100% ppl play artifacts
better than ever while having 15k players down from 54k on steam relaunch š
but i don't own any artefact stuff dude its so expensive i'm still learning. Even the mobs will frag me
it's the sdf alt account, better to stay away from it
pal worlds had 2 million players on launch, it now has 19,700. let that sink in.
Let that š° in
Who asked about palworld this is a dnd discord 
Mb mb šŖ
Gentleman 
The preachers have not yet arrived on every single part of the world, and so it was that sdf's vision and plans were not yet known by every player. https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1375433683737116713 preachers tried their best to spread the word, to let people know about the mighty plans of the misguided warrior, but of no avail. "Talifurn" a warrior that hasn't been playing for a long time came back from the break and said "WTF is this bullshit", the prophecy? Fulfilled. Warriors coming back to the game found out that the game they loved has been through a lot of changes, no longer existing in the form they enjoyed the most. The preachers were lost 1 by 1... every steam comment, every negative review, every discord frustration message. And so it was, that the returning warriors such as @rich tendon were not in the loop anymore and could not believe the sdf development - From Dark and Darker times under sdf's vision, mid section, chapter 6
all these people crying "games dead" etc. its like no people have a short attention span now days. If its not filled full of LED flashy colors and drawing people in like a casino craze they end up playing the game for what its worth and moving on. Thats life. It doesnt mean the games dead. Out here mad cause they don't have their dopamine fix cause their brains reward systems broken.
what does sk stand for
Skeleton key
This just really isnt true but ok. Look at every top steam chart game and game in general what games are fitting this description.
Yes people have shorter attention spans now but your just making things up because you think the ānew generation ā doesnāt know what a good game is
Are you dumb
Skeleton Key. Its basically another form of gold storage because nobody uses them in match unless they have enough in inventory for several consecutive matches in order to get a unique. Because if you purchase one from the marketplace YOU WILL NOT HAVE THEM PAY FOR THEMSELVES unless an artifact drops.
I meant artifact, not unique.
bro is trying so hard to cope its crazy lol
If SDF has an idea of what the game should be then why can they not tell anyone what that final version will look like? Is that not insane? Surely a company has to know where they are heading and be able to articulate that. Why would that need to be a secret?
If you die in HR to the Circle, is it possible to get anything back from Dungeon Recovery?
Or is it 0% Recovery in HR ?
You don't recover from HR unless your teammates take your items
Someone explain
Yes, dungeon recovery is only for Adventure mode now since you cant take gear with you to normals
Srsly someone tell me why green gear exists if you cant take it to normal. The game was much better at the start of wipe.
That's odd to reduce it to PVE only, but thanks!
Sad that we deleted over half of the game, I miss Solo Blue Nomals
so its a currency that pretty much = 3k gold
Yes, you use it to buy artifacts, because i cant see anyone using it unless they're in a trio and extracting with everything it yields
so its a pretty decent key to run? like it has alot or loot or no
does bluestone dissapear after semi wipe ?
no
You should note that in general skull key is not 3k and this is an anomaly
how much is it usually
around 20k
How much are snorkels gonna cost for the new water map?
why are prices so incredibly low rn then
because of semi wipe
Semi wipe is close
are you 50 years old?
yeah facts the game is actually dead
if player count is this brutal just go back to map rotation i guess and make goblins solo only
not a bad idea honestly no idae why7 they removed solos so so stupid
Not a good idea
I got a mystical gem is the loot room any good or should I sell it
Goblin caves is so awful no one wants to play it anymore, they destroyed it.
ya the smaller version was better
He used Palworld as a comparison too hahahah, a game that has Pokemon as a competitor and an similar alternative, what alternative does DAD have? NONE lmao horrible comparison
Palworld going against a billion dollar company and can retain players better 
also palworld was complete shit
SDF said he wants to take the game in the direction of Nintendo's Animal Crossing to capitalize on the games hit success.
lmao exactly
