game-discussion

[quartz osprey]

yeah the lizard avatar is crazy work but I been seeing the player count. that’s not the only thing he said in the video

[zenith cloak]

speaking of arena though league arena needs to come back so that client has an actually fun game on it

[trail flicker]

This is exactly the problem. "i fit was designed right" meaning "im emotional and mad about this, therefore it cannot have been designed right" is just typical madkid

[zenith cloak]

yeah i like a lil bid of uniqueness. Druid and sorc actually interesting classes with some things that are too much. I dont want all classes to be balanced equally that makes a boring as shit game like cs go

[past scarab]

@glad thunder gj 4k players in dungeon. Remember your vision cannot exist with no playerbase and no playerbase is going to exist without you taking feedback

[zenith cloak]

they are purposefully trying to kill game so idk what their next plan is lmao

[past scarab]

Ye you may be right. Almost like they're doing it on purpose. Maybe sdf and the other co-owner are already rich and rly just wanna gtfo but they cant because of contracts so they kill the game so it isnt profitable anymore and contracts end

[zenith cloak]

actually not a bad theory. Rug pull basically

[zenith cloak]

believe it mother fucka

[silver bloom]

don't worry, asmongold mentioned dark and darker on stream that's bound to get us 3 new players 💪

[abstract umbra]

bro this sorc is fine😂

[zenith cloak]

LMAO the way the game is rn i feel so bad for new players. FS they dont get wins like 99% of the time the first week they play if they even play that long

[white meadow]

Anyone else think that your HR rank should be shared across all your characters? It sucks that I'm forced to play the same character if I want to increase my HR rank. Especially since you only get one of each HR reward regardless of how many characters you rank up.

[arctic laurel]

If they are f2p they cant even use the loot they gather since norms is squire only

[zenith cloak]

wow didnt even consider this lmao.

[rough plinth]

I think the same

[manic stag]

Just popped in to say its super fun queing up PVP solo against only 3 ques to try and get my gear up. PVE is boring as fuck its stupid its the only way to play solo to get gear before goinmg to get triple fucked by a team of three because they cant add a solo que. Thanks dark and darker uninstalled. Hope your audience fully leaves.

[astral turtle]

Anybody else having an issue where right after finishing a game your screen goes gray? Am not getting AP becuase I have to ALT+F4 to fix.

[clear cedar]

problem is that there is no new modules, dungeons looks always same

[jagged marten]

Cleric/rogue LF HR trio or duo

[tawdry torrent]

bruh HR this guy Electrouzbek and another barb Bagdanbogomdan have been teaming for 3 days straight with no damn ban can the mods wake up please games almost dead and you still allowing this kind of behaviour for 3 days

[lunar trail]

Anybody else have this issue? already tried redownloading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x2lvNunfKQ

[median holly]

Lets be pretty real, it takes at least 500 hours for you to get used to every map in this game

We do need new content for old players and better PvE, but this game has tons of content for new players

[fiery roost]

is the game dead yet

[humble bloom]

Problem is we don't have a lot of new players lmao not many people joining is an issue. Can't add too much or it'll ne overwhelming for potential new guys as well

[narrow oar]

what could possibly be overwhelming about looting and killing

[fringe granite]

Adding too much being a concern when we’re missing so many features is crazy

[median holly]

I don't have the stats neither do you, so you're lying.
Lets see what the mini wipe brings and from there we will know what the future brings

[narrow oar]

are the servers down

[humble bloom]

Yeah you got a good point

[alpine wadi]

Circle apologists eat canned chili and tv dinners

[fringe granite]

I get what you mean, but that’s a concern for when we’re out of EA, if we ever are imo

[quick pike]

where do i report teamkillers?

[humble bloom]

Big IF there lol

[clear cedar]

by buying 5 red shards

[clear cedar]

not bannable if he didn't teamkilled you more than 9 times

[median holly]

After he kills you press R while watching him and report, or save your game play using amd replay or anything similar and send it to Iron Mace via the report channel.
Team killing can lead to offenders losing the account it's worth to report scumbags

[lethal anchor]

does spectral drop a named? is it worth farming

[smoky stag]

Will that be artifact arena? Or just boring arena again?

[median holly]

I don't know the table drop but he should drop artifacts in HR and the sword hilt and spectral fabric

[quick pike]

i wasnt able to report them in game cuz he left and didnt show up in previous players. on the #in-game-reports channel it doesnt have anything specified for teamkills. is that the right place?

[smoky stag]

@spiral raven noon

[lethal anchor]

ty i js learned it so im tryna spam farm it

[elder bolt]

"games in its best state" so is the game the best state now or was it the best state during Patch 69?

[jagged marten]

yea i got teamed killed last night about 5k in meds tb and full gear.. was tying sdf vision

[left pendant]

they have to update the game to open arena ?

[winter tinsel]

last time they let everyone know nearly 1 month ahead of time so probably not

[median holly]

<@&988703997378584596>s can anyone help the guy? i never made a report outside the lobby

[wind estuary]

how long has the trio duo been fcked up

[trail flicker]

Well the fact is that you cannot balance them. What does it even mean here? What is the goal of the game and of balance? It's not as obvious as it looks and so these emotional infants and the ever-toxic gaming culture will scream and cry about literally nothing while being completely conviced they are 100% right based on...their intution? Lol the epitome of Ltardation

[median holly]

It's a cool fight, i just hate his jump he is too inconsistent in that jump, sometimes you can bait him easily and others he keeps following you

[trail flicker]

Never played Sorc. I'm okay with Sorc. I think lower level players dont like any of the ranged classes 🙂

[mighty prism]

@zinc sparrow Why did you disrespect Jay? Literally did more for the game than you have ever done

[trail flicker]

This sdf update at the kitchen "solo duo and trio can coexist" doesnt even apply to anything. If you want to join a game with a buddy and go red instantly, you hvae a third Ahole player that wants to just farm until the bell and take a blue, you're screwed. How is this and 90 other specific scenarios being addressed? The only answer is to hvae the duo have an option to be repaired with someone else in between dungeons? I cant think of another solution other than bring back duos. Ofc needs to bring back a mid gear level, preferably make it 250 this time

[vague nymph]

does anyone has a problem with HR that you get gray screen after the game and no AP gain?

[echo bloom]

people saying the player count is low because of wipe are trippin dude ! this was SDF plan all allong

[clever wolf]

"It's not my job to do my job!" - Graysun 06/25

[median holly]

I wouldn't call it a plan

[ashen willow]

captunlevi is cheater EU, shot arrows through walls

[acoustic dove]

Can't create party ?

[mighty prism]

Skill issue - Also new xray arrows coming its SDFs vision bruh

[median holly]

Take the clip and report him, get that hacker ass

[mighty prism]

SDFs vision but he has a Double astigmatism

[rapid lava]

Sdf would be w if he addresses the gear next wipe

[quiet lance]

#in-game-reports is the best resource!

[opal patrol]

450k in this discord bruh… sdf really killed this shi

[cobalt harbor]

less than 7k total players online.

Nice vision @glad thunder

[hard zephyr]

@glad thunder bring back solo/duos maybe ur brain realise that game is dying cos of this shitty decision

[median holly]

I hope he doesn't, solos are gone my friend move on

[hard zephyr]

who asked about ur opinion ?

[final dirge]

So are the players

[light agate]

games like this should have all kinds of modes .from solo to squad

[median holly]

You're in the wrong channel my fragile friend #game-discussion isn't a safe space for you

[hard zephyr]

🤓

[median holly]

Until the new wipes comes we won't know the real loss of players, it's very soon so we won't have to wait much

[hard zephyr]

stop talking no one cares about you

[light agate]

this game will end like dungeonborne

[final dirge]

The delusion is crazy

[wispy imp]

Game is actually dead lol

[light agate]

and dungeonborne was way better then dark and darker even at the start tho

[median holly]

I love the random toxic kid, bro this is the internet, I have been around before you existed, you acting like a school bully is nothing but amusing :)

[final dirge]

You're in the wrong channel my fragile friend ⁠game-discussion isn't a safe space for you

[hard zephyr]

@median holly am aint kid ill slap yo ass everywere u want in ring in dungeon, outside wherevewere u want

[vapid cloud]

nobody gaf bud

[hoary flax]

I don't even agree with Crazy but you type like a damn child lol

[light agate]

no toxic kiddos allowed here move on to another discord channel

[median holly]

Hey I'm not saying DaD isn't losing players i think that the player base will fall to around 10k if you input the solo players leaving, I'm just saying that the numbers right now obviously aren't the real numbers

[hard zephyr]

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDD dreaming pro max v2

[vapid cloud]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA smoooooth brain

[hoary flax]

We'd prob be around 5k

[fathom nacelle]

With the upcoming few games, you saying DaD is loosing players? It wont exist in a month. Just watch

[thorny reef]

This discord is so wholesome!

[final dirge]

again the delusion is insane

[whole veldt]

no brain for real lmao

[trail flicker]

Anyone typing "i mean..." is almost always wrong about everything they say. DnD will not be growing. Restricting the freedoms we are already used to will not grow the game. It's already tanked so much from so many changes. In the end they will revert back to the most successful patch and the game will become an asian phone game p2w and die out. The water map will surely worsen things...The fish zombie is just zombie but he carries around a seashell or something? Unreal. If they have pirates that you fight and a huge interactive level then ill be wrong but i predict its underwhelming. I defended devs and the game up until this patch. Obviously patch 68 or 69 was trash for everyone, but removing 225gs is the worst choice, then removing solo duo is the second worse. They want to retrain how we view the game but 90% of the players (actual objective % btw) prefer solo duo. The levels are already too small for trios really

[light agate]

4,379
players right now

[hard zephyr]

@median holly this guy just s%cking sdf 🐔 thats it

[gray rivet]

hell yea the game i popping!

[trail flicker]

Yeah game already went below 10k so wtf. @hard zephyr Kindsa cringe, you should listen to the dragon song

[fathom nacelle]

Thats a playercount for a game thats 5-10 years old. Not a fresh wipe on a game thats developed right. Holy shit thats bad

[hard zephyr]

idc about cringe and stuff im telling truth thats a thing only matters

[elder heart]

Dungeonborne was way worse then what dark and darker is now at start

[lime pine]

For real? There are less people in game than reported on steamDB? So everyone who used to use blacksmith launcher quits?

[civic finch]

3000 playing

[vapid cloud]

5k total on

[light agate]

brother na .even the grafics and the fighting system where better in dungeonborne .sark and darker is just outdated at this point .the devs killed it

[trail flicker]

Player count is over a 24 hour period not "right now". @hard zephyr Uhh no, he's not sucking some dude off. At least not sdf. Truth doesnt exist in gaming culture. Only toxicity and emotional infants that dont know how to deal with the real world, unfortunately. That's why pubg is the best game. Adults only lol

[uneven prairie]

Worst this game seen in numbers since multiclass tbh but games dead for sure doomer mentality to the side its honestly cooked.

[hard zephyr]

😄 😄 😄 ye agree whatever sdf tells you like a good boy

[whole veldt]

5k total people minus the bots that just trade you the ones that farm gold and the Chinese cheaters real player count sub 3k and that's me being nice

[lime pine]

Erh, if this new patch does not blow our mind, I think I'd never pick this game up again. It's been fun.

[median holly]

Games aren't all competing for the same players, that's why niche games exist, like you can take Tarkov, Tarkov isn't competing with DaD they aren't even the same genre, they just happen to have extract mechs.
The problem of games dying not long after launch usually lies in poaching players being hard, people usually don't just drop ship, just look the tons of crying in this chat instead of just quitting.

[hard zephyr]

this guy playing something else not dark and darker

[woeful tartan]

@median holly its been like 3 weeks and u still ragebait them like crazy xdddd

[civic finch]

you're assuming we haven't. i haven't logged in two weeks other than to check the player count. i like the game so i'm still here. hoping that someone does something.

[gray rivet]

put me in coach, i can cook

[fathom nacelle]

1600 hours since playtest 2. Safe to say, ive seen the shit the devs are doing and the game will drop dead with SDF vision

[lime pine]

Oh don't get me wrong, I've quit, but just waiting for the semi wipe to see SDF's vision in his full glory. Haven't Graysun say that NOW they are fully supporting SDF with his vision, and before other devs in IM was dragging him down?

[trail flicker]

They are using their gear, they also bought stash space probably. Plus the insanity of this game is truly unlike any other. You dont see this kind of wave in any other game's discord

[civic finch]

if arc had dropped when it was rumor'd, heh

[hard zephyr]

thats what am telling they just agree what sdf do, no other opinion we gotta tell him u aint the one we are

[gray rivet]

anyone considered that with the years SDF has maybe become i dont know.. VISION IMPAIRED??? it would explain why he didnt notice it getting overcooked recently.

[median holly]

I hope you're here when the middle of the next wipe then I will just point and laugh.
You kids get too emotional to think straight about things, you probably think that the game will magically die in 1 month

[civic finch]

there's always going to be a player base, it might just be significantly less. which as SDF has stated, he's fine with

[hexed mist]

Any news about arena / artifacts today?

[signal rivet]

id be playing arc raiders instead of this if it dropped

[hard zephyr]

who cares about arena artifacts game is dying

[vapid cloud]

magically? holy how slow are you you said you think after the wipe and no solos player count might be at 10k its 5k right now WITH SOLOS it won't be better you are a t@rd

[vocal bramble]

I got a highdea, I know that the hr juicers/timmy stompers would be mad at this idea, but what if there was no trio normals mode and only trio HR with squire entry only, the gem merchant can only be found in raid so you must resocket during the raid and find/bring the gem you need to reroll, and make arena mint only again. adventure mode can be offline. (GC would have to be HR as its 1 layer)
am I cookin or nah?

[gray rivet]

game will die a slow death, it'll always have at least 500-1K players no matter what. It dies when they run out of money because 500-1K concurrent isnt enough income to cover backend costs like servers and employees and eventually their finances wont make sense and they'll dissolve.

[lime pine]

Man if you got an artifact kit, I'm sure you've been here long enough to know that they will not have any more patches before the 'semi wipe' happen.

[final dirge]

Probably won't be cause this game isn't worth it anymore honestly its just not fun anymore

[civic finch]

a lot of us would that's for sure!

[gray rivet]

if we were all east asians who only played random trios this game would be thriving

[lime pine]

If the game have 500 players, it's like 1 IM dev for every 5 players. The one whos left will prob have phenomenal customer service!

[whole veldt]

next wipe here soon then week later middle wipe oh my you expecting alot in that time frame\

[gray rivet]

they'll have to charge each player 3 bucks an hour of playing the game to pay the employee to listen to them whine

[lime pine]

Just you wait, the semi-wipe will contains Monk class, water map, gathering hall, and musket.

[hard zephyr]

with 1000 player base and several servers lobbies would be filled with same people all the time so if u think that everyone will still playing this 💩 gl

[fathom nacelle]

But no quiver, quiver guy quit

[gray rivet]

The semi wipe will leave us with poop still on our ass, we wont get a clean butt till august.

[signal rivet]

Lmao

[lime pine]

Nah, but desync block will finally be added as a feature.

[whole veldt]

monk delayed by a year water map will look terrible and muskets with desync gonna actually be fun

[median holly]

This brings me tears, how bad have the educational system of your country be, that you can't understand a basic concept of numbers of players going up and down in a wipe, I would explain better to you but I really don't think you can understand it.

[lone monolith]

anyone else lagging hard af and keep getting kicked

[gray rivet]

i use a delay time limiter to ensure i have a steady 200 MS connections to servers and can use the desync block as a feature already, maybe thats the new patch

[trail flicker]

Lots of projecting. The need to insult is already cringe for you, but the fact that you are making things up such such as education, which you cant possibly know about, is the most wild extreme

[whole veldt]

with this upcoming wipe i bet player count stays the same as now prolly little lower they arnt adding anything till oh wait later aparently doubt we get it on time either

[lime pine]

That's like... Cheating with extra steps but ok

[hard zephyr]

@median holly this estrogen machine plays black desert all day and have opinion about educational system 🤢 🐔

[gray rivet]

that doesnt exist it was a joke, joke is they'll pay for cheaper service and make 200 MS the standard

[median holly]

Yo count me up i love when i get things right, will save this in the Google calendar bro

[lime pine]

As long as there's more than 50 players, then SDF will consider it as a W. Since he will get more data from all 50 players in live server than he ever gotten in test server.

[hard zephyr]

sdf ---> 🐔 💩

[whole veldt]

i seen i had a blocked person msg me but i dont listen to people without brains so eat 🐔

[acoustic horizon]

is this bug report worthy

[hard zephyr]

you gotta do what u gotta do when game owner is doggy

[whole veldt]

he collects data no way thats crazy

[hexed mist]

Yeah ure right, although it doesnt require a patch to just change gear rarity limit so there is still a posibility. Was asking if actually anyone knew something new

[steel venture]

@zinc sparrow Eat a 8===D man

[cerulean raptor]

Where is the Guard posts module in crypts?

[lime pine]

You have more copium than the rest of us.

[median holly]

I think I'm being pretty civil with these unruly kids, if i cared even a little bit i could just have tagged a warden in one of the many offensive messaged they sent here, and that's is besides the point, him being a what we say slow learner isn't technically a insult in this case it's a fact

[quick pike]

location is random, darkanddarkertracker.com has all the new modules

[rapid lava]

@glad thunder don't listen to these gooners bring back patch 69

[lyric creek]

. . . like of all the things to think of as an insult. Why did your mind go that route ...?

[steel venture]

because his name kinda rhymes with something else

[cerulean raptor]

Sorry, meant to say "what's it look like" Is that the one with the wraith

[vapid cloud]

this is a grown man or womans discord bio btw -> Me identifico como deadpool ur a loser

[hexed mist]

Brother try go ragebait someone else i just replied to you asking for genuine info and not personal opinion

[median holly]

Cute

[quick pike]

if you mean on the map, that website has it and you can seach by names. yea, it has the wraith

[lime pine]

Huh? I wasn't trying to ragebait, sorry if that came out that way though. Just saying you are more positive than the rest of us ^^

[vapid cloud]

did you just call a minor cute

[steel venture]

lmao lock him up

[signal rivet]

Gross reported

[warped echo]

thats enough!! im calling the DUB police.

[hexed mist]

All good g

[hard zephyr]

@median holly probably g3y computer guy who sits all day in room and thinks hes deadpool

[median holly]

You are indeed a kid, but for sure not a minor, smells like a 25 year old jobless who didn't grow out of being a highschool bully

[warped echo]

sparky kawas new video 2.9k players in game, GREAT JOB IRONMACE. KEEP IT UP.

[lyric creek]

<@&988703997378584596>

[vapid cloud]

oh man got me there should i refer to you as deadpool then?

[signal rivet]

stop talking to kids. Why are you trying to talk to him still its gross

[hard zephyr]

people like @median holly gives sdf🐔 motivation to kill game

[quiet lance]

Ok lets calm down, be more respectful please.

[trail flicker]

Who doesnt daydream about being deadpool

[vapid cloud]

so we're doing tricks on it?

[lime pine]

Bruh, SDF posted all these yesterday.... Saying stuffs about semi-wipe. All I'm getting is that Normal next wipe will be squire gear only still.... what in the f

[hard zephyr]

xd

[whole veldt]

ugly, cancer, always dying hmmm no

[split wadi]

I think it's honestly going to be unrestricted normals and HR

[lime pine]

That's even worse than squire gear.... The worst game mode when sweat lord exist is HR, just because of the unlimited GS. Anything but BiS is useless, so might as well just use gray gear.

[median holly]

Random accusations of me being a SDF defender is a bit cringe, and don't act like you didn't went in my socials, it's there because i don't need to hide kiddo

[split wadi]

That's what it's like on PTR. Hey if you wanna risk the artifact weapons in normals to stomp timmies with all those extra defensive layers removed be my guest

[hard zephyr]

bro thinks i care about hes socials what a wierdo only word hes brain can generate is "kid" @median holly

[vapid cloud]

do you get off by calling everybody kids and such

[fathom nacelle]

Funny, everyone shouting kid left and right. Fuck im 39

[whole veldt]

yeah i think hes unwell and def to into kids

[chrome bloom]

39 and acting like dat crazy

[signal rivet]

Have your fun unc

[fathom nacelle]

Havent really said anything so wtf 😄

[lime pine]

During test, there are a lot more timmies, so the geared players are more saturated. The better people are getting with the game, the more sweat lord there is. It's a never ending cycle.

Each timmy stomped = 1 less player. It's literally a simple math problem.

[signal rivet]

dont worry about him hes just upset like all of us unc

[median holly]

https://youtu.be/7ipdQzUtEvU
The PodCast with Soma and Odin talking about the problems they had while they worked for Iron Mace, it also has a segment on the NotLikeThis lies/drama if you like that.
Since the kid touched on that it's time to share this again

[loud silo]

@fathom nacelle being 39 and giving a single fuck about someone calling you "kid" makes you a kid.

[hard zephyr]

imagine game where rogue- "assasin" - is tank (260hp btw) , ranger - is pdr/tank wonderfull decision

[warped echo]

this, just block the troll and move on it's the best course of action.

[lime pine]

The stat checking is literally the same problem as Druid. They are always in control, and there is literally nothing you can do against them.

[signal rivet]

what are you on about

[whole veldt]

my rat has 145hp

[median holly]

SDF is a bad guy there's no dodging that, he isn't to blame for everything but for sure he is at fault in his job plus as a human being he is a horrible one

[loud silo]

@signal rivet well I replied to someone else, maybe you could start there and figure this out. I know, I know. reading is hard. But I believe in you, friend. You can do this.

[hard zephyr]

finnaly all my bulling payed off 😄 my man ❤️

[lime pine]

I think that guy is a chatbot for real.

[rapid lava]

Bring back patch 69 don't listen to these gooners SDF

[whole veldt]

in there culture the highest rank has all the say so it would in fact be all his fault

[hard zephyr]

who asked ? not me

[signal rivet]

Are you sure you read what he said right? Might wanna re-read it, friend

[median holly]

If you use your brain a little you could see that i only called you and your friend a kid, because you act like one. If you don't like being called a kid, maybe don't act like one.

[hard zephyr]

woow ur soo good at calling kid, amazing 🐔

[loud silo]

@signal rivet what exactly are you trying to say? You're gonna have to spell this out for me, because one of us is incredibly dumb, and I just wanna make sure its not me. Because as far I can see, the dude was crying about a rando on a dying video games discord, calling him "kid". which to me, sounds pretty childish.

[rapid lava]

Wait what's the dimo allegation?

[median holly]

That message is a repost from yesterday, you're not doing nothing in this discord outside making me laugh while i procrastinate in my lab, i need to wait some more to leave to avoid traffic

[drowsy pike]

is getting banned for "cheating" even tho you didnt cheat a thing?

[hard zephyr]

good at least u can laugh now instead of hugging sdf see we are making progress @median holly

[fathom nacelle]

I found it amusing, had a laugh and you see me as crying about it? Or you talking about someone else?

[median holly]

Rarely but it does happen, Iron Mace is very soft on bans usually

[small marsh]

Extremely rare.

[hard zephyr]

yea but hard on breaking game 😄

[signal rivet]

You are not dumb. You just misinterpreted what he said. He's not getting upset that he is being called a kid "Funny, everyone shouting kid left and right. Fuck im 39" he luaghing at the fact there are kids in the dc and he is 39

[drowsy pike]

all i recall out of my last Round i played, was Heavy Lags.

Next what happend, i was Temporary Banned: "abnormal detection"

[queen solar]

has anyone had any gold go missing

[signal rivet]

I get you no need to explain

[small marsh]

Oh, then that happens sometimes. It's probably fine.

[hard zephyr]

dont worry sdf will fix rat form instead of bugs

[loud silo]

@fathom nacelle the fact that you felt the need to say youre 39, is in itself an admittance of taking it personally, and being upset enough that you needed to "correct" them and tell them youre not a kid. @signal rivet yall must genuinely be kids, because "kid" has been an insult since I was a child. also, laughing at the fact that kids are playing a video game? what exactly is there to laugh about with that? "haHAAA, a child is partaking in a hobby that caters to children! haHAAAAA got em!" ? is that your angle?

[median holly]

Yes, but there's other person who also has a rank high as him, I can't blame workers because well no one wants to get fired but SDF isn't the solo owner

[signal rivet]

Its ok you were wrong. no need to get mad lil bro

[fathom nacelle]

Bro super analyzing a comment, theres nothing this deep to look for angles 😄

[left solar]

anyone getting off the game and trying to donate all their stuff to me im down real bad!!

[hard zephyr]

life aint that easy go work for it

[hasty marlin]

This game has never been better. I love the direction we are going in. This will be a serious contender for game of the year 2026 once trios only drops next season.

[signal rivet]

Some of us can understand jokes don't worry

[loud silo]

@signal rivet why are you so upset about this? its crazy, just calm down man. No need to lose your lid over it. We can all be friends here. Just take a breather, come back in 5 mins, and we can talk like adults. Gonna give yourself an annuerism.

[hard zephyr]

another @median holly are u guys twins or sisters ?

[hasty marlin]

That is my mom

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[dry flint]

So now ppl run teaming in solo ? 2 barbs and 1 wizard fighting me side by side in solo HR @zinc sparrow

[signal rivet]

I was never upset, i was just trying to make sure (UNC) had someone to translate for him. Im sorry you werent able to understand.

[loud silo]

@signal rivet calm down, brother. Youve been typing for like 3 minutes now. Its not that serious. Take a deep breath and count to ten.

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[signal rivet]

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 Thanks man i good.

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[lyric creek]

. . . no new content ,, ? tf you call sorcerer? what do you call the new inferno monsters ? what do you call the nightmare icecave monsters ?

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[loud silo]

@signal rivet good boy. such a cute little guy. Now put your suit on, were going bowling with your uncle later.

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[signal rivet]

As long as you promise to take a literacy class ill do whatever you need. I love helping out the needy

[lyric creek]

send me $ so i can buy stuff I dont need

[fathom nacelle]

Heard SDF need help with cooking

[signal rivet]

Lmao

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[loud silo]

@signal rivet "I'll". Also, end your sentence with a period or exclamation mark. That's your first lesson. Also, Also, calm down. You're getting riled up, again and I don't want to see you hurt yourself.

[hearty crag]

rip pride lmfao

[static frost]

Your pfp makes me think of brotato lol

[cloud sphinx]

ranger buffs when?

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[rustic radish]

how is sdf shuch a good game devloper?

[loud silo]

@static frost Good game. It's actually a crochet dinosaur thing that my girl made for me, but i'll let her know it looks like a potato.

[signal rivet]

Who was the stupid one again? Who was wrong?

[loud silo]

@signal rivet I would have to guess the one who wanted to give me a "literacy test" while also failing basic spelling and punctuation. Who really knows though, I mean were just in a dying video game's discord channel after all.

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[fluid lily]

I'd rather have no extra content than getting CCed by sorcerer as content

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[abstract umbra]

Add nerf sorc we the people want it done !!!!

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[granite copper]

is arena open rn

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[rapid lava]

YES PLEASE NERF SORC, AND MAGIC DMG AS A WHOLE

[cosmic swan]

Does spell casting speed make you play faster too as a bard? And if yes is it worth it? Or should I focus dex only (If my goal is to play as fast as possible)

[clear cedar]

those added like a 1.5 year ago

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[fluid lily]

If all the new content is going to be CC from ranged class please don't add it I'm good with no content

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[granite copper]

yall might be worse than the game direction with how cringe this is holy

[summer pilot]

sdf fanboy over here boys

[loud silo]

@granite copper Look man, the game is ass right now. This is genuinely more fun than playing it.

[vague nymph]

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[fathom nacelle]

Also more people here than ingame

[granite copper]

i dont like what they have done with it either but copy pastas in the big 2025 is rough to watch

[loud silo]

@granite copper i dont like what they have done with it either but copy pastas in the big 2025 is rough to watch

[abstract umbra]

Im done getting lightning stormed and lighted freeze 80% of sorc cant hit there spell

[summer pilot]

im just waffling dont mind me

[fluid lily]

The melee classes have to work tomorrow, the unemployed 20 yo rangers need to fight the basement dwellers sorcs now so they don't play vs each other

[hard zephyr]

@granite copper i dont like what they have done with it either but copy pastas in the big 2025 is rough to watch

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[abstract umbra]

Its crazy that 30% of the players account for 100% of sorc crimes like spamming lightning stormed and lightning freeze

[granite copper]

fair

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[coral thistle]

Gotta love when the game BSODs on launch for no explainable reason and then starts working fine an hour later 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fluid lily]

HASHINSHIN

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[abstract umbra]

Buff druid idk man. People who want to nerf sorc rise up no more lightning stormed spam no more cc of this magnitude

[hard zephyr]

@abstract umbra sorc goes down druid goes up good deal

[abstract umbra]

Sorc goes down 50% druid goes up 5%

[hard zephyr]

https://www.twitch.tv/jaygriffyuh/clip/EnjoyablePiliableMeerkatMcaT-RgfDZatK2Hnpv8pn this is who sdf is pure doggy

[coral thistle]

chat where do I find the player numbers in game

[obsidian shell]

player list button in lobby bottom right of screen 👍

[coral thistle]

Oh so there is only 200 ppl in dungeon in my region

*nvm thought it was the difference between Lobby and Dungeon there is 3k lol

[abstract umbra]

This is how they made sorc gave the idea to a goof ball but the idea in the first place came from a goof ball

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[mint marsh]

stop the spam.

[mint marsh]

stop the spam.

[sonic maple]

Spam is allowed

[abstract umbra]

there they go trying to silence us

[tepid iris]

please continue the spam

[open sundial]

why is there 3k people playing

[mint marsh]

Everyone stop spamming here. That's not allowed here. You can send it in the channel #the-tavern

[loud silo]

@coral thistle I've just been watching the screenshots channel, people posting player numbers dropping, and dropping fast. about 2k less today, than yesterday.

[mint marsh]

Not here. Its allowed in #the-tavern

[fluid lily]

You main sorcerer

[sonic maple]

In my Samwitch

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[loud silo]

@mint marsh That's cute, nerd. Now gimme your lunch money before I tell SDF that you thought a single one of his ideas was sort of bad, and he perma bans you after calling you names, for disrespecting his high royalty.

[sonic maple]

Sad alts

[mint marsh]

be respectful to others. Thank you

[merry crater]

I pray sdf just steps down

[loud silo]

@mint marsh Respect others spam, goober. Reap what you sow

[summer pilot]

seems he have employs for that

[tepid iris]

please continue both the spam and disrespect, ty

[merry crater]

The ceo of iron mace doesn't even respect his own game

[fluid lily]

Sorcerers don't respect us in arena when they spam random CC on cooldown from bangladesh

[hushed coyote]

is there a reason we cant join create a trios anymore?

[mint marsh]

The Bug is already known and is being worked on

[rotund goblet]

We will also be removing trios from the game entirely as it affects the vision of the game - sdf probably

[loud silo]

@hushed coyote devs are finally listening to the community, specifically the spam of "remove solos, remove duos, remove trios"

[restive sand]

hi

[summer cove]

lmao is duos and solos still a thing in hr? hows the game?

[rotund goblet]

Does that answer your question

[loud silo]

@summer cove
Month Avg. Players Gain % Gain Peak Players
Last 30 Days 8,457.8 -1,767.4 -17.28% 15,112
May 2025 10,225.2 -441.7 -4.14% 16,651

[summer cove]

yea seems dead, womp womp

[loud silo]

It's bleeding out, slowly and painfully.

[rotund goblet]

@mint marsh are you okay with what is happening to the game that you've put so much work into? Or are you accepting it because it's a job and your boss tells you to picture his vision

[coral thistle]

Nerf Bardiche.

[gusty birch]

when i was a totally newb to this game pk mages were like Crazy Jack Nicholson to me... like they always after you , still givin you a little catch of breath so you can run and suffer more... and ofc be afraid xD

[loud silo]

PT wizard was nutty. Like just straight up demi-god tier.

[sonic maple]

Nerf sorc

[gusty birch]

Really, this causes a strong dissonance. Look how cool it looks when a warlock swings a halberd. And what a trash it is to see this "second strike" of a bardish, which is a high-speed imbalance poke

[willow sky]

As a bard lover, i can say bards needs something tho, it feels like no sense to play it rn..

[oak topaz]

Huh wym.
A bard killed cyclop in 20s infront of me😭
The class is so good

[willow sky]

Just one party buff, rapier is useless, clothes like troubador is like u find a torch in da box.. idk man just do something… pvp looks unfair, i love the class but feels like climb the everest like rogue, wizard..

[willow sky]

Thanks god xd ..

[sonic maple]

You have +2 all party buff

[willow sky]

Bro main bard, i k whats happening with it rn, not balanced, so behind, how many bards u see per day?

[sonic maple]

Plenty but I play solo

[oak topaz]

And he said he lost he kit to a hacker otherwise he can kill faster.
Bard is a beautiful class the only reason i don't play is buff duration too short

[willow sky]

Just think about it, 32000 barbs, 32222 sorcs, 111111 clerics, 2 or 3 bards and good bards 1, people dont playing it.. ask u why, gn

[oak topaz]

Barbs and sorc need some sort of adjustment for sure.
These 2 getting out of hand.
The problem is devs don't care about players opinions

[pallid cedar]

4000 players rip so sad

[sour gyro]

why cant i create a voice channel

[tough shuttle]

do you think the game will come back ?

[sour gyro]

i hope

[quaint anvil]

1 hour till arena or is it up now

[tawny vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pvZ6xR9R0I8

[untold cove]

sdf and dark and darker = Jerry Jones and the Cowboys

[polar light]

That is a major problem that 9/10 doesnt end well for the game.

[warm locust]

can you team in normal q

[swift niche]

Does anyone know if artifacts can be used in this arena?

[warm patio]

Supposidly you can, don't think your allowed to. I saw graysun say something about how they banned players who did it 10 or more times so 9 times you can you'll be good

[swift niche]

I ask because before finishing the last wipe they opened a special arena that allowed carrying artifact items, but I guess that's not the case this time

[median anvil]

Anyone get a Switch 3 yet? Is it good?

[waxen totem]

Yeah buy gold. Buy a named weapon and glitch it into the arena 9 times.

[grand patrol]

put the fries in the bag bro

[median holly]

In solo a good caster sorc literally can't be killed by melees outside iron will barb, but they are only focusing balances for trios queue, I don't know how strong sorc is in trios. Barb is overall just insane the class is strong no matter what queue

[pliant flame]

hey bub would you hush up??

[oak topaz]

Sorc is good in trio too.
I play trio now and it's always barbs and sorcs.
Rarely wizards nd rangers

[median holly]

No, thanks for asking, have a nice day mate.

[grand swallow]

Prego goblin

[pliant flame]

cornball old head, didnt you call a minor cute earlier??

[forest shore]

@placid imp

[median holly]

Barbs would always be the best frontline with how the game is right now, because they have too much HP and damage, Iron Will also transforms him in to a perfect blocker for frotline spells

[forest shore]

can somebody help me build an arena rogue kit

[tame ledge]

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder @blissful dirge removing solo/duos is going to completely kill the game. I'm a long time line holder, but this is not a good decision and the entire community agrees. I think they can get behind the mod changes, but not this one. This is going to cause another few years of testing and balances. You're starting from nearly square 1.

[tribal plaza]

hes on the hook for 6m dollars. theyre probably letting him off if he kills the game. just in time for that zombie extarct game to come out on steam

[oak topaz]

I dont mind hp
I don't mind immunity to knock back.
All what is OP is the Movement speed and slow debuff i was ranger and a barb was casually boxing me and couldn't do shit.

[median holly]

I have come to dislike SDF as a person after the Soma/Odin podcast, but you're spreading misinformation. The fine will likely be tossed out, and Dark and Darker is no longer on the hook for it. They’ve already been cleared by the courts on everything.

[clear pendant]

SA server final boss giving us his insane game knowledge, thanks!

[modern gull]

why is the trio lobby generator on discord not working?

[median holly]

Thanks for agreeing with me bro, I love when people say i'm right

[tribal plaza]

quick google search will show you multiple articles citing the same thing

[misty swallow]

THEY SHOULD MAKE ARTIFACTS HAVE UNIQUE LOOKS THAT NOTHING ELSE LOOKS LIKE OF ITS KIND

[median holly]

The mov speed is meta will be danzo after this wipe, and the shout part yea that slow is insane

[modern gull]

@quiet lance hey, any ideea why trio party chats are not working?

[drifting hinge]

I played more than most and I always been playing normal, now with common gear only its the most boring stuff and I think I might quit this game

[drifting hinge]

I felt that episode was just whining about how they got treated

[tribal plaza]

what was misinformation? that you should be deported?

[median holly]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1j4wuqp/a_korean_news_article_covering_the_lawsuit/
Unless you have any other place with concrete and trustful info, that is what i know. And if you have it please post

[quiet lance]

We are having vc tech issues, we are doing what we can to fix it

:)

[void hound]

thats just racism no?

[quiet lance]

where?

[misty swallow]

game NEEDS TO MAKE ARTIFACTS EXTRA CONFROMATION IN TRADE post

[ionic kayak]

Stop spamming in this discord
Stop playing the game, log out,
Give SDF his vision of a game with no players

[drifting hinge]

5k players left, and more leaving

[void hound]

the yahoonigan guy talking bout deportation and shit to the guy just bcuz their bio is spanish? might be overblowin it a little but seems that way to me

[modern gull]

arena up but i cant find lobby 😛

[tribal plaza]

As a result, it ordered Ironmace to pay 8.5 billion KRW in damages.

[wintry saddle]

wheres arenas

[loud cobalt]

@glad thunder doing great boss excellent player numbers really knocking it out the park with the vision

[hexed mist]

lmao no artefacts in arenas before semiwipe??? this is killing the game on purpose 100% , going after ppl quitting

[modern gull]

eyo thats a reference to mexicans?

[warm patio]

its okay they only ban you if you do it 10 or more times, just do it 9 times

[drifting hinge]

After SDF said he really like PUBG, I see where this game is heading, and I hated PUBG

[spark tiger]

NO NAMED>????

[median holly]

Not really, that showed something that people always knew but no trusted person spoke about, that SDF ignored basically everyone opinion and just treat others badly in general. This is something that for me isn't acceptable, normally i wouldn't care but he is also the lead Dev, I keep saying to my self that the game is the game and the people behind it don't matter that much, but in the end that is sophistry because i would quit a game instantly if the *lead dev was racist this is an example not insinuating anything.

[quiet lance]

looking into it

[wispy siren]

no artifacts in arena, games dead to me

[spark tiger]

WTF

[lament pawn]

fast patch add artifacts to arena pwetty pwease 🙏

[shrewd cove]

Welp, its ups boys. No artifact arena. Gonna run these 2 artifact kits until I die to some landmine rogue then uninstall. GGs

[drifting hinge]

Maybe you are right, it's just that my view was that content creators feel entitled, but I have seen how they treat people in the game so they got no respect from me. I feel Odin is a good guy, but that episode was for me a bunch of whining that they wernt a part of anything. Yes I agree seems like SDF was an as* to them but I didnt get the feeling that they had the episode for the good of the game

[quiet lance]

this is your only warning, any further comments like this will result in harsh punishments.

[shy ingot]

wow crazy topics to read about in a game discussion discord.. can we get a ETA on the discord VC fix?

[coral pulsar]

NORMAL ARENAS, WHO IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR

[drifting hinge]

@median hollyAlso and this is not my business but think they ruin their chances to work somewhere else, making a full episode of how your old boss was and calling them out on everything they can, doesnt matter if they were right or wrong, it doesnt look good

[median anvil]

If they don't want ppl spread out over queues why would the add pve and arena instead of improving the actual game? They're all over the map.

[cosmic swan]

Exactly

[coral pulsar]

there is no way you put arenas till the end of wipe with no update, give us artifact and unique arenas

[drifting hinge]

PVE is fine for new players, they needed that, I dont like Arena and never have, so I dont care about that

[left quest]

what is the best material to farm for gold rn?

[rich juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ogli-gif-17468683305861986751

[coral pulsar]

honestly i agree

[cosmic swan]

It's fine but it's one solution among many other. Adding a new gamemode just split the playerbase even more. And it's dumb to do it when you know that the huge number of queue is one of the main issue of your game

[coral pulsar]

we are at 3000 player with arenas, this game will be at 1000 after if they dont add in artifacts and unique gear.....

E veryone say goodbye to the game

[lament pawn]

2 months we wait and another 2 months we are gonna have to wait it seems

[quartz osprey]

sdf doesn’t understand that ranged classes can’t do more damage than melee classes AND have higher move speed. unbalanced game

[coral pulsar]

lastarenas there were 4.2k as soon as it opened

[clear pendant]

Arenas with uniques this season would be too stupid

[coral pulsar]

this is last arenas of wipe, it normally would go up as seen in previous wipes

[hoary flax]

welp no unique arena, 6k players online total. twas a good run

[lethal crag]

magical healing should have a cap, frock all these 30+ mag heal kits

[crisp panther]

help me solve the problem when I start the game, it loads up to the main me and ask me to restart it, while I tried everything from changing the Internet to completely resetting Windows, nothing helped it started 4 or 5 days ago when the update was released, from that moment I could not start the game, please help.The connection to the server may have been abruptly terminated.
Please restart the client.
Confirm

[coral pulsar]

what else is there to compare it too, its not an outlier (there has always been drama) and I cant compare it to future wipes

[smoky tangle]

oof game numbers are real low rn

[royal summit]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1254217142715420742 is broken

[sage oak]

They're attempting to cater to the really experienced players by only doing trios which doesn't give experience to new players. Mark my words they will have the other modes back in a month or the game will die. The same situation happened with hell let loose and the devs pulled through. Well see how they react. If they really wanted to base it on trios then they should have stuff only trios can do not remove other team types.

[gray portal]

This server has the best emojis ever

[crisp panther]

help me pleas(

[terse steeple]

Game is fully dead now yeah?

[sage oak]

They need to bring back the modes. Reset gear score stuff to how it was in 2024 and bring back the interactive tavern where the game can be social. Literally all major games thatre indie and seem simple have that element and the devs already know how to do it.

[clear cedar]

idk what is this games devs objective/motivation anymore.

[torpid arrow]

Iron mace has investors yeah?

[fickle zephyr]

🏇

[clear cedar]

no way, maybe nexus?

[craggy lynx]

shitty game still alive? lmao

[urban burrow]

They have to bring the other modes back they kinda don’t have a choice if they didn’t want to add solo and sdfs vision of the game was trio only then they should have stood on trio only gameplay but they folded and catered to the player base that was asking for solo mode and people bought the game to play solo only

[loud silo]

hey guys, did you know that @elder beacon's report numbers turned yellow?

[sonic maple]

My report numbers turned yellow

[sage oak]

The game is a decent game, the devs have the community they need and the experience to make the game great. Theyre just kinda in stalemate right now and are seeing massive blowback. What I really think they need is a interactive tavern where you can chill with players through open mic, get free ale and get drunk with the homies, squad up however you want in whatever way u want up to trios, and make the game feel like you are going into a dungeon of danger and mystery to dig up. Puzzels, positive player interaction, open mic that works properly, a tavern where say 50 to 100 people could be at one time, and real animated traders present would fix this and make the game feel alive. the lawsuit must really be hitting them hard though to be making decisions this poorly because no matter what you argue dev teams are not this stupid.

[quaint anvil]

no artifact arena = gg. tried to stay positive about the game but what a failure choice.

[grand lily]

why does every one who plays this game complain 24/7

[loud silo]

@grand lily because their report numbers keep turning yellow.

[heavy shoal]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow give us 24/7 named arenas before the semi wipe

[hasty marlin]

Dark and Darker is my most loved game of all time and I don't even mean this in an angry way - but I am so disappointed with the direction this game is going, and even with acknowledging communication is important, it is being done so poorly. We are getting more thoughts into SDF's head, but nothing relative to what is actually happening and the state of the game and massive community backlash. This season has added absolutely NO new content, bled more playerbase, we are getting an extremely early "semi-wipe", and two of the STATISTICALLY reported queues removed. The stats were pulled from when they actually publicly shared statistics with us, so it could be different slightly, but back when shown, solos was most played across every single region. There is no thought.

I can only hope that miraculously everything changes next wipe, we get the water map we were promised that was supposed to be for December along with some other meaningful things that actually work.

Stop releasing patches with 0 content and buffing-nerfing-reverting changes and that being the "content" for the next four months.

The game has a good base, it has a community that WANTS this game. If they do not start improving and instead keep basing every single update and massive rug-pull change -> a better company will take the place of Dark and Darker eventually

Please, just do better. I know you guys have it in you. 🙏

edit: actually, let's just release a new seasonal DLC that gives more market benefits and stash tabs and beginning of season gold

[heady ridge]

🤢🤮

[loud silo]

@hasty marlin bro, youre missing the point. @elder beacon's report numbers, TURNED YELLOW. C'mon man, get with it.

[quaint anvil]

agreed so sad they chose not to do it just to let the timmys that dont even play the game have fun in a mode for people to run high end gear

[hasty marlin]

We need a team on this immediately.

[sage oak]

@zinc sparrow The game is a decent game, the devs have the community they need and the experience to make the game great. Theyre just kinda in stalemate right now and are seeing massive blowback. What I really think they need is a interactive tavern where you can chill with players through open mic, get free ale and get drunk with the homies, squad up however you want in whatever way u want up to trios, and make the game feel like you are going into a dungeon of danger and mystery to dig up. Puzzels, positive player interaction, open mic that works properly, a tavern where say 50 to 100 people could be at one time, and real animated traders present would fix this and make the game feel alive. the lawsuit must really be hitting them hard though to be making decisions this poorly because no matter what you argue dev teams are not this stupid.

[desert orchid]

game pop rn?

[hasty marlin]

steam currently 4.1k

[random bramble]

no new arena maps and cant even bring in artifacts, at least take me out to dinner first sdf

[sonic maple]

Don't benefit bad buyers boycott artifacts

[heady ridge]

An actual tavern to find teammates with sounds very good in theory. It’s just in real life, people do whatever they can to ruin that experience.

But yeah say you geared up a character and went into the tavern, then you would find some people to leave the tavern into the raid directly would be very cool.

[echo bloom]

why are you guys talking to graysun XD he didnt even talk to the most famous DND streamer

[stiff talon]

no unique/artifact arena with 2 weeks left before a pathetic semi wipe to stall EVEN MORE time for "new content" is actually so incompetant i can't 😂

[tame ledge]

These quests are grindy as fuck for no reason.

[quaint anvil]

if u let people ruin your experience in a tavern with open mics then u arent fit for this community lowkey

[heady ridge]

Why you wanna give Helen Wong a bonus??

[sonic maple]

He paid

[sage oak]

We should push this idea I think if the game was made far more interactive it would grow it. Think about games like battlebit and holdfast. They have massive communities (Mainly battlebit now) due to clips of people just having a great laugh in a social setting. Even games like hell let loose that thrive on open mic are massive because of it even though it doesnt go through both teams.

@fleet imp We should push this idea I think if the game was made far more interactive it would grow it. Think about games like battlebit and holdfast. They have massive communities (Mainly battlebit now) due to clips of people just having a great laugh in a social setting. Even games like hell let loose that thrive on open mic are massive because of it even though it doesnt go through both teams.

[heady ridge]

If it had limited range for voice chat so people can actually have separate conversations in the same room, it’d be even better too

[candid gate]

are they going to allow uniques artifacts in arena

[heavy shoal]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow give us 24/7 named arenas before the semi wipe

[lost rain]

More like semi wipe my ass

[quaint anvil]

nope i really have been doomer pilled because of this choice. insane how well it was received and they decide not to again

[pine mantle]

gg to this game sat here for months grinding because it was that fun. They not only killed this game, they slaughtered it. Thank you so much SDF wonderful vision

[candid gate]

not suprising these goofs dont do anything right

[hasty marlin]

multiclassing is the only thing that can save this wipe, give it to us ASAP

[mighty prism]

FACTS

[red slate]

poor game vision from creators. no lobbies for intermediate players. either bissed out no lifers in high roller or complete noobs

[lost rain]

Nothing can save this game. 👁️👄👁️

[royal summit]

would be pretty fun

[fervent anvil]

nah we need another axe perk change

[eager mulch]

Na, pushing new content faster, not revamping the items and keeping solos would help tho

[hasty marlin]

at this point just drop something completely fking random, literally make an end of wipe event. new playlist, trios only, whatever, doesnt matter, hunger games style. mini-self found competitions, a few poorly coded special chests/altars or some shit.

[lost rain]

Probably gonna drop a ton of shop content to make a quick buck and pull the plug on the game.

[fervent anvil]

keep it out and buy planes in war thunder

[hasty marlin]

I think what they need to do is remove adventure mode. Make it accessible ONLY for players who buy the new "LOOT GOBLIN" edition of the game. $150 opening price tag. No wipe, complete persistent progress. CO-OP FRIENDLY.. PLAY WITH YOUR FRIENDS.. PVE...

[fleet imp]

Are you saying we need more areas with opportunities to be social in the game?

[runic basalt]

I've been trying to farm spider silk for many games now, and have only seen one drop the entire season, which I was not able to extract with. does anyone have a good way of getting them?

[fervent anvil]

no. only planes in war thunder

[lost rain]

[sage oak]

Absolutely. Just a tavern where you could link up with your friends would be awesome. they already made one. im sure they could do it again. not to mention its great to get new players into the game because people see something hilarious of a game online and then they play it

[hasty marlin]

unironically i need a battle pass in this game ASAP. demigod grind is too easy to get. there is no FOMO left to keep me in the game right now. i need something dopamine inducing, make me feel like i am losing out if i dont get on and grind it.

[fervent anvil]

go throw missiles at people in war thunder. or start watching a shit ton of anime

[dark isle]

so hae they removed solos and duos yet?

[red slate]

bro they did that weeks ago

[sage oak]

@fleet imp Absolutely. Just a tavern where you could link up with your friends would be awesome. they already made one. im sure they could do it again. not to mention its great to get new players into the game because people see something hilarious of a game online and then they play it. If people could just chill in the tavern in game and talk like in discord I think it would make the game really positive.

[fleet imp]

Things like this are certainly on the way.

[thorn sparrow]

When will im fix the fucking leaver penalty arena bug??

[crystal pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMRRic94YjY @zinc sparrow

[lapis veldt]

this game has been taken over by casters

[fleet imp]

I've wanted social spaces to goof off in for so long 😅

[dark isle]

only on the test server, ive been doing solos fine the past few days

[sage oak]

@fleet imp Now would be the time more than ever for them to bring that back. It would revive the game. Are you actually able to communicate with the devs. I would be content if they just brought back the tavern with free ale and have a different tavern for every map like they had. Then have a option where you can link up with someone in the tavern and meet new people. I think that would be peak dark and darker as it should be. Interactive fantasy with the boys. Which I think to most would be the best experience ever and very doable from the devs.

[sonic wedge]

is solos truly gone this is so sad

[fleet imp]

As I said, a social space is being worked on.

I know there's concerns that custom gathering halls will have to be rented with redstones, but remember that is just for the host. If they make their hall public, you won't have to pay anything to enter.

If they make it private, you still won't have to pay anything either. You'll just need the password 😅

[sonic maple]

Yawhooooooo

[vapid sparrow]

artifact/unique arena event would be nice again before semi wipe

[sage oak]

oh and gambling would be cool as a side thing for immersion. I feel like that would make the tavern crazy fun.

[delicate steppe]

It's being worked on, like say, quivers?

[warm garden]

so everytime i get out of arenas it says lost connection to client restart game anyone else having this ridiculous issue

[stable urchin]

does everyone esp in this game????

the number of times i get into a fight only to have 3 people suddenly walk in, is just everyone hacking? i mean every single time i kill anyone, no joke

[clear jasper]

@glad thunder daily ask for monk update?

[storm reef]

Does anyone have a problem with rubber banding at peak hours? I can literally not play this game from 7pm till 12 pm

[fleet imp]

I'll let the team know, this has been a pretty popular request

[heavy shoal]

that would be amazing. i love you

[coral pulsar]

we are at 3000 player with arenas, this game will be at 1000 after if they dont add in artifacts and unique gear.....

E veryone say goodbye to the game

[vapid sparrow]

W chyunkus thank you ❤️

[pine mantle]

@glad thunder when is this game going to be good again?

[storm reef]

@fleet imp Is there any word on fixing the rubber banding issue a lot of players have? I rubber band an insane amount on this game during peak hours. I have a wired connection, and when I run test my connection is stable and runing at 500 download and 100 upload.

[last tapir]

uniques and artifacts should drop more often since this game is casual. And focus more on PVP on maps. Mobs is too much powerful. And blue and green itens NEED TO COMEBACK TO NORMALS IRON MACE JUST TOOK OFF THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MAKING THE GAME ATRACTIVE TO F2P PLAYERS

[clear jasper]

If you like the game maybe buy it? It’s a third of the price of cod

[tight siren]

@glad thunder like bro Wdf

[severe ingot]

Halt die fresse ahmet

[last tapir]

I have the game. But what is the point of only squire gear on normals?

[clear jasper]

To give you a taste of the game

[wheat helm]

W ironmace employee

[severe coyote]

Where you been all week? This game croaked the moment sdf announced his brainless "vision" that flew in the face of everything his community wanted and went against the graphs of everything his community was actively playing. Most played queues are solo/duo, let's get rid of those!

The fact that he did this AFTER discussing the graph on a stream and on the same day Dungeonborne (the biggest dark and darker competitor) closed their game just shows an epic level of ignorance.

[grand lily]

named arena when?

[last tapir]

Taste of what? you can buy itens but not use it? It was in the game before why they took off? Who wants to have this tipe of taste on a hard learning game and low population?

[clear jasper]

Someone that refuses to pay $30 🤷🏻‍♂️

[last tapir]

Imagine saying this to brazil servers. People on that country refuses to pay until they really like and learn the game.

[severe coyote]

Listen, it's great they give you a taste of the game for free so you can save 30 bucks and never play this trash. Now would be the absolute worst time to buy into this failing ghost town of a game.

[sonic maple]

Arena = bad OW

[last tapir]

30$ bucks in brazil is 150R$, like you can buy so much food with that, and most of the people on that country thinks that a 100R$(20$ dollars) is too much money.

[lethal anchor]

someone let me borrow a named, ill promise i wont give it back

[last tapir]

So, this game needs to be free, because its dying. And needs more skins to buy, battlepass. Things that makes the game sustain himself. Not a block for the full game. This makes people not want to play.

[wheat helm]

@fleet imp do you know if we'll be able to get quest rewards for all the quests we've already completed after the semi-wipe, otherwise those who have done the quests will be at a disadvantage and we will no longer be able to claim those rewards

[last tapir]

If everyone think im wrong on that point. This game deserves to die for real.

[eternal pawn]

still no barb hotfix... its insane...

[uncut shadow]

weve had arena without artifacts for plenty of time now

[silk bobcat]

way cant I make a duo channel in the dark and darker discord?

[tame quarry]

The game devs should take a look and delta force and see how they are doing things, they could probably implement some of those strategies here and be very successful

[fleet imp]

This is a valid point too

[clever spruce]

ive been unable to connect for days. Wtf is going on?

[worthy surge]

On god I want NOTHING like delta force in this game. I prefer tarkov mechanics WAY MORE

[uncut shadow]

HOW? We've had arena all season without it, people have saved their kits for end of wipe arena, so we should have it for atleast a week.

[tame quarry]

More like how its free, the anti cheat, and the micro transactions. Delta Force also offer battlepass and frequent in game events that players play through to gain rewards.

[silk bobcat]

How would you find a duo to play with randomly for a little bit. why take away duos voice party?

[worthy surge]

Fuck mtx in these types of games. Ftp is one thing. Anti cheat is always gonna be a battle

[wheat helm]

people saved gear in preperation for artefact arena

[uncut shadow]

So you spent all season in adventure mode? It's not hard to build a unique kit and get an artifact. I've spent this whole season saving for this kit so I could use it in arena.

[quaint anvil]

bro if u dont have an artifact by now in wipe why even play

[naive coral]

Not gonna lie every single match atm artifact trying to play the game normally is a waste of time atm

[tame quarry]

I agree

[weak sinew]

Chyunkus, are there any plans to continue doing interactive quests like Hallow's Eve and Project Winterlight?

[cosmic swan]

IM never said it was happening again this season. And the event have been pretty unpopular last season as the vast majority of people don't have Artefact and it kinda ruined Arena for them

[fleet imp]

Yes, the challenge however is coming up with more difficult puzzles that justify community wide participation

[quaint anvil]

youll be fine not playing arena for a weekend then if they allowed artifacts for this last one

[fleet imp]

Your guys are fast to solve stuff

[wheat helm]

the event was very popular last season, pretty much everyone I've talked to in OCE was looking forwards to it this season

[uncut shadow]

Right, so you're opinion isn't valid because you haven't even attempted to build a kit for end of wipe arena.

[weak sinew]

❤️ ✨

[wheat helm]

find some friends, share your loot around, share artefacts and kits.

[quaint anvil]

literally the dude admits to not even playing the actual game outside of maybe 5 hours making an arena kit for an entire wipe. like bro we do not care about ur thoughts if u dont even play

[cosmic swan]

Well I remember seeing a lot of people complaining about it last season, it was fun the first couple day and then a lot of people start complaining about it
(And I'm not talking for me)

[wheat helm]

"I don't play the game, but you should cater to me" unfortunately thats not how the world works, other people exist.

[mild dirge]

are the servers the same for steam and blacksmith ?

[quaint anvil]

W response

[sonic maple]

Remove arena permanently

[mighty prism]

Remove SDF permanently

[cosmic swan]

⬆️

[wheat helm]

why don't you use your gear in the dungeon, go play the actual dungeon while those with artefacts get to play arena

[quaint anvil]

anyone can buy a famine bro its 6k gold there is no excuse for not having one right now LMAOOOOOO

[jovial spear]

@idle kraken

[cosmic swan]

You underestimate how most player don't get near having good kit or Artefact even tho they're trying to

[quaint anvil]

also why is the reasoning "i dont have an artifact so there shouldnt be artifact arean" instead of "i dont have an artifact for artifact arena, i wish ironmace would give an artifact token reward so everyone can at least have one"

[wheat helm]

not being able to use artefacts ruins the experience for anyone who did grind for them during the wipe, you should use ur gear in the dungeon

[stiff talon]

you know what else is not fair? the fact arena is non minted and the progression in this game is pointless because of it. farm money with zero risk in pve and buy a kit for arena where you can use gear without risk too. good job you made the whole gameplay loop pointless, bozos like you are such an L. Let the people who played the game have fun when it wipes in 2 weeks is that hard to comprehend

[quaint anvil]

anyone can make 6k gold for a famine nice try bro. if u cant get 6k gold then that is a personal problem. if you have over 20 hours of playtime this entire wipe then u can afford it.

[sonic maple]

Bro you think playing field is leveled for fulgore with famine?

[quaint anvil]

do u really think you cant kill a fulgor with a famine? skill issue, cry about it. plenty of artifacts are cheap af right now.

[sonic maple]

Ya

[quaint anvil]

actual skill issue, no one cares what u think if u really dont think you can outplay someone with the same rarity of item.

[eternal pawn]

if barb doesnt get nerfed to the ground on the 26th then im outta here

[cosmic swan]

First you're taking the worst named as an example, good luck doing anything against a Lad or fulgor. Then not everyone play barb anyway and having a named don't make a kit, that's still pretty expensive. Some people don't have the time or knowledge to farm gear or gold and it's the vast majority of player. And again i'm not talking for me I have plenty of bis arena kit on many class

[void hound]

I get your arguement and i agree there should be artifacts in arena rn but comparing someone buying a famine to someone who could be running an inv of Lad's isnt the best way to promote the idea lol

[sonic maple]

Your fake words don't change the fact fulgore extra damage is like base famine damage. There are classes of artifacts and a reason some are worth the moon and some less than legendary variants

[quaint anvil]

if you dont even already have a kit for arena then WHY ARE U ACTING LIKE THIS WOULD AFFECT U LOL SO DISHONEST ITS INSANE

[shy ingot]

cant we all just get along

[cosmic swan]

Read the whole message bro, and go ragebait somewhere else

[sonic maple]

You mean sorc ?

[coral pulsar]

we are at 3000 player with arenas, this game will be at 1000 after if they dont add in artifacts and unique gear.....

E veryone say goodbye to the game

[eternal pawn]

sure, both. but atleast sorc has to press multiple buttons in my eyes

[quaint anvil]

says the guy saying he cant make a kit for arena lmao. u dont need full bis unique to have fun in artifact arena. can just run your full bis legendary kit

[next star]

cant wait till it dies, these devs got no common sense

[ornate heath]

no one cares for arena rly

[broken cipher]

game is dying because of sdf its so sad rly

[sonic maple]

It's like listening to a bread box talk that looks like a bear

[cosmic swan]

Again read the whole message, I've said I have plenty of bis arena kit for almost every class and build

[quaint anvil]

SO THEN THERE IS NO PROBLEM!! BUY A FAMINE LIL BRO!!! I BELIEVE IN U!!!

[sweet crow]

gotta love when a fighter in HR tries to shoot you through a wall because they have esp (I died afterwards but damn man fix your anticheat)

[ornate heath]

ngl never thought sdf is this fkn bad, like theres no hope left for the game to come on top

[sonic maple]

This guy plays 3 games of arena , gets bodied by pestilence viola and quits till next wipe

[quaint anvil]

bro is afraid to farm for more than 1 match per wipe

[cosmic swan]

The only hope is that SDF resign

[quaint anvil]

soulscraper 14k on market, illusory 20k on market, stinky stick 19k on market, man so many affordable artifacts its wild

[atomic condor]

just because they are affordable doesn't make them balanced or fun in arena

[silk bobcat]

they are fun

[stiff talon]

in this economy thats like 3 sks! 😂 the game isn't cooked at all its very healthy

[sonic vortex]

when arena with named ?

[quaint anvil]

thats why we dont have them the entire wipe... almost like everyone agrees with u on that and no one begs for constant artifacts in arena, only for the event at end of wipe..

[ornate heath]

the problem is, hes basically the owner of the company, he fires ppl and theres no one that could do taht to him, literally impossible..

[cosmic swan]

He need to do it to himself. He need to get a grip and finally notice that no one want he's "vision" and that he's killing the game

[silk bobcat]

its the highest level of play in the game if you cant play around a piece of gear then good luck

[stiff talon]

the game. wipes. in. 2 weeks. we want to use shit we have. people like you play 5 hours and buy a kit for arena then cry about balancing like you're entitled for the game to suit you is crazy 😂 . the same cry babies that got rare norms removed wah min maxers wah its not fair. okay make arena squire only too then it will be all about skill!!?!?! or how about you let the people who actually actively played the game and had money and can buy artifacts use them when the wipe is already done?

[grand lily]

this puck guy is annoying, like bro go fight a boss or something

[ornate heath]

hes also the type of guy to kill the game rather than giving someone to lead it further

[quaint anvil]

lowkey facts

[cosmic swan]

I know... But that won't stop me to keep asking for him to go

[calm musk]

if you guys ever tought sdf or anyone at IM care for us, the community people that play the game think again, they clearly dont, never had, and porbably never will. If the game TOP content creators are treated like shit, if people THEY PAY their own employess are treated like shit, what makes you guys think they give a rat ass about any of you?

[cosmic swan]

I think most people are aware of that but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be vocal about it. Who know

[ornate heath]

honestly after this next upcoming wipe, it will either be a turning point for sdf to realize and listen or the downfall of dnd, because no one wants to play the way he envisions this game...

[cosmic swan]

⬆️

[calm musk]

with 5k+ hours of the game i just gave 200k+ gold worth in items away yesterday for random people in trade and uninstalled, will never come back to this game thats kinda my take tho not saying anyone should fell the same way, im just tired of IM and ive spent wayyyy to many time inside their little trap couldve been the best game ever? probably we will never know tho

[sonic vortex]

actually i don't understand... Move speed on every item, unique with OP stats wich make the game broken, and then they want back BIS squire kit.... WTF ?

[ornate heath]

yeah this just shows that they are absolutely clueless when it comes to balancing...

[subtle heart]

question ppl

[cosmic swan]

Imo SDF made the random attribut broken on propose so people get upset about it and accept the removal of random attribut more easily

[subtle heart]

how do you play the test server???

[quaint anvil]

open the client if ur on blacksmith and at the top there are two icons, pick the second one

[cosmic swan]

You need to use the Blacksmith launcher. You can download it from Dark and darker website.

[subtle heart]

alr ty

[quaint anvil]

glad to see someone play test server giving it a try. enjoy it!

[sonic vortex]

They just dont wanna try hard on new content so they make some stupid change on item, they are just too much lazy

[wind eagle]

do you get all items even bought if you lose in arenas?

[quaint anvil]

yes u dont lose any gear that u brought in

[next star]

too late bro, the games dead asl

[calm musk]

imagine being graysun saying he works harder then larbor based works, and in 3 years he cant even make a good communication channel with his community. If that aint being lazy i dont know hwta it is

[teal stirrup]

people still play this?

[next star]

these devs got no brains

[teal stirrup]

an example of a good community manager is reb from de now she is in charge take notes ironmace

[raven wasp]

join to create trios not working?

[mighty prism]

C-lown and C-lowner

[whole anchor]

that is not even what he said or meant ya'll are like grandmas on facebook with this shit lol.

[limber badge]

We creatin' a friggin trio or what

[spice compass]

Put Artifacts in arena for the last few days

[modest terrace]

They should make artifact gloves for sorc

[spice compass]

They should call it the OJ gloves

[modest terrace]

real and after you kill someone they dont fit

[calm musk]

lol what did he say them? and what did he do in 3 years to support his claim?

[ornate raft]

They should make an artifact pavise !

[spice compass]

The Great Wall

[restive sand]

that dude def works his life away doing what he does

[ornate raft]

or something like Phare, revealing invis in front of it

[restive sand]

that dude def works 60+ hours a week bruh you think hes just sitting around eating and watching moves or something? developing a game is extremely stressful

[calm musk]

hes not a developer hes community manager. Do you see a managed community?

[brave oriole]

So ur saying he works, but shittily

[strong dawn]

dont worry rqz has never worked a day in his life his parents do eveerything so he can complain in DAD discord

[restive sand]

Yes I do see that

[calm musk]

you joined discord may 26 2025. youre an alt account of someone in IM team thats just cringe. If you aint u got no property AT ALL to talk about anything since you have 0 ideia about anything since yuou joined discord less than a month ago LOL not even worth arguing game is so dead that we have bots in chat now lol

[muted linden]

Been hearing about a lot of negative changes coming in a couple weeks, anyone have a list of all these changes?

[restive sand]

im a new player i have a channel. its weird how the mods are all haters of the devs. its really really strange. all the negative shit that is said is stuff people are making up with no evidence

The game having a small player base makes it look like your opnions matter and makes you feel like you have say for something

[calm musk]

nah u have 0 evidence when u say community is managed, you have 0 info and you have nothing saying you a real person. you are 100% shady account trying to say things with 0 concrete evidence and treating like someone whos been following IM for 3years+ has no evidence, you see a shitty community where all big CC left and you say its a managed community, you have 0 evidence and trying to say i have no evidence like what the actuall f. LOL you are 100% FR mod alt account. nice try graysun

[restive sand]

its like yall are trying to gas light people into voting on changes you want for the game tbh. i dont need to provide evidence for that. its obvious

[calm musk]

nah give me evidence the community is managed and that graysun is working. that what we started talking about, and you talk just like him you cant address what people say too you you can only whine about what you want to whine. oh lol thats hilarious. Yeah yeah sure youre a player with less than 1 month in game talking with property like youve been here for years, lol bro nice try nice try

[restive sand]

youre delusional thinking im an alt. i just a new player that is stating the obvious. youre gas lighting

[zinc sparrow]

You can talk about this in #the-tavern

[ancient raven]

L dev

[restive sand]

you just sit there all day and say the opposite of what ever postive stuff people have to say you have an addiction this

[young depot]

I like how I get queued up with two litteral kids in arena and they block me from exiting the starting room for 3 rounds with their bodies looking towards me, then they both downvote my name into red and report me saying I was the one trolling.

[calm musk]

its ok @zinc sparrow will not be taking anyone else time when bots starting chatting in game discussion you know community is actually fckd ty for the run tho it had potential sadly it doesnt anymore

[restive sand]

il be back later on. its sad watching low intelligence people with npd do this in the main discord for the game

[small marsh]

I really wish they'd just say what the season rewards ARE, rather than giving us false hope that the reward is going to be cool

[modest terrace]

no fighter already got like all the artifacts

[small marsh]

I know they show the icons and whatever but wtf is the black flag banner supposed to be? Why should I be bothering with spending hours of my night trying to grind HR to get it? These arbitrary, potentially meaningless goals are not gameplay. They do not in any way represent "fun", they are just objects to attach FOMO to.

[trail ibex]

Its been the case they only show them after the AP progression is locked since at least wipe 3. Otherwise if ppl knew what they're getting too many would stop when they have enough for their desired item.

[small marsh]

Why is that a problem?

[trail ibex]

Dead lobbies in HR gets worse.

[brave oriole]

Bro its already obscene. Hr goblin caves is a ghost town

[small marsh]

Then they need to work on gameplay. If people are only playing HR so they can get skins, there's a much deeper problem with HR than this.

[pastel walrus]

haven't played in over a month checked the patch notes and looks like they're genuinely destroying the game

[tiny wigeon]

artifact arena please 🙂 artifact arena please 🙂 artifact arena please 🙂 artifact arena please 🙂

[dusky briar]

Please don't let this game die

[tiny wigeon]

if you are going to kill the normal game with arena then you might aswell make it artifact arena 🙂

[pastel walrus]

what large scale item changes are they planning?

[last tapir]

bro its a code true and false for artifact arena, and they are ignoring u guys for a 2 seconds job. Crazy

[trail ibex]

@brave oriole i dont care, being shot in one foot isnt an excuse for people to shoot you in the other.

@small marsh Id advocate that but the devs insist on less important crap like tweaking numbers instead of making changes that are intrinsically engaging. They're too dumb to rework druid and his anims, they refuse to add new weapons and armor or class abilities, we've been waiting for the water map since forever.

@pastel walrus you can say im coping but the game can still recover from the disastrous trio only for the same reason the game grew from when it was trios only to where it was past wipe.

[near elk]

HOLY SHIT IRONMACE FIX THE LEAVE ARENA EARLY BUG WHY THE FUCK DO I SIT HERE FOR 250 SECONDS BECAUSE I LEFT ONCE WE LOST HOLY SHIT

[frosty spoke]

are artifacts allowed in arena now?

[trail ibex]

Also I have barely under 1k hours in DnD and I have never seem someone wearing copperlight and cobalt gear respectively more than once. Who tf is buying those to jack up the price? Would it really hurt normals if the only normals lobby was 0-124 bracket lobby or Rare bracket? Or maybe a hybrid system where you could surpass either but not both? Because i invited new people into the game and upon them discovering they couldnt take the gear they looted back into the dungeon for other than PvE was a big turn off. And the devs want to kill that game mode next wipe?

Removing accessibility to f2p players is going to deplete the playerbase harder and cause players who'd otherwise eventually buy the game because they didnt get to have that middle ground.

[pastel walrus]

@frosty spoke No, btw there is a channel called announcements where you can see patch notes and if artifacts was dded to arena you would be able to see it there

[tiny wigeon]

no artifact arena lol gg

[trail ibex]

Also I have barely under 1k hours in DnD and I have never seem someone wearing copperlight and cobalt gear respectively more than once. Who tf is buying those to jack up the price? Would it really hurt normals if the only normals lobby was 0-124 bracket lobby or Rare bracket? Or maybe a hybrid system where you could surpass either but not both? Because i invited new people into the game and upon them discovering they couldnt take the gear they looted back into the dungeon for other than PvE was a big turn off. And the devs want to kill that game mode next wipe?

Removing accessibility to f2p players is going to deplete the playerbase harder and cause players who'd otherwise eventually buy the game because they didnt get to have that middle ground.

If gear gapping is the issue then why not have normals have an uncommon item grade limit so copperlight has a reason to right

[pastel walrus]

Im glad i switched to SWTOR

[brave oriole]

Rare bracket was so goated fr fr that shit slapped so hard.

[spring escarp]

just got same team in arena 3 games in a row its over

[pastel walrus]

What if instead of dark and darker it was called Darker and Darkest and it was a good game with actual content updates

[brave oriole]

Lack of illumination and absence of illumination

[pastel walrus]

Devs trifling they must be from dirty docks!

[trail ibex]

I get the feeling the devs dont understand what makes the game fun is because they dont have fun playing their game. Probably because they dont play their game. If they want to say they put in the hours they should at least use them to experience what everyone else does.

You'd have to reverse the lobotomy at Ironmace's leadership for that. We were supposed to get the watermap this wipe but something happened.

[pastel walrus]

man if only they had a channel in the community discord server called something like game discussion where the community could discuss the state of the game and share our opinions and they could implement some of the most popular and agreed upon ideas

[subtle cedar]

we need artifact arena fr

[modest terrace]

how do you make sorc lightning storm tick faster

[lyric creek]

IDK who madee the last leathersmith quest, but they need to be fired...

[trail ibex]

I wish I could hired at Ironmace to make all my preferred changes happen but at the same time I head stories of former employees saying it was so depressing working under SDF that it crushed their childhood dreams of working at a games company for good.

SDF having people issues aside, I really do think I'd probably have to assume CEO or creative director status to make it happen.

The game is in such a bad state that I really do think taking a random person in this discord and putting him in SDFs shoes would more likely than not take the game is a positive direction.

Unles the leads at Ironmace confess they messed up and assume some humility.

[wispy snow]

idk if any of y'all have seen the movie blackberry, but they need someone like that

[glacial thorn]

did they remove boss summoning in HR?

[pastel walrus]

I think im gonna go play Rimworld and enjoy gaming for a little while

[brave oriole]

If i dont see u shit 10k in cybernetics into a paraplegic meat man we cant be friends.

[craggy cairn]

If im buying scrolls in my religion do they wipe?

[soft ibex]

what about religion rewards?

[ruby silo]

can yall fix the god damn LFG create voice???

[craggy cairn]

Nobody knows i guess

[pastel walrus]

only 10k? what kind of brokie you take me for???

[soft ibex]

i heard you can reclaim the rewards

[brave oriole]

If u cant source archotech on the cheap u dont deserve a paraplegic pig man with 4 amputated limbs!!!

[craggy cairn]

I don't think so i just want to get the skin

[clear pendant]

sdf is literally a monkey he will kill the game no doubts i will play rust thanks to him

[shut timber]

quick question hopefully someone can help me out, are characters kept after seasonal wipes? For example i have a wizard named Benji and hes level 50 does he stay with the name and level after the wipe or do we make a new one with a new name and his seasonal level is 50? Cheers in advance

[inner socket]

SDF resign

[pastel walrus]

His level will get reset but you will keep the name and cosmetics attached, and you get 1 fame for every level you gain across all seasons

[shut timber]

Ok thanks bro

[brazen mason]

Name stays, levels reset; you‘lol get something called “Fame” that grows from what level you were the previous wipe (so it will be 50 next wipe, but grow as you level throughout said wipe)

[vast ravine]

It’s over boys

[agile pecan]

spell casting speed

[lusty finch]

My game sound turned off in the middle of my match, anyone know how to fix?

[dim river]

Do you get anything by ranking up in arena?

[mystic coral]

Are they keeping adventure mode or getting rid of it?

[stuck lion]

Lick a double A while casting the spell (obviously a joke hehehe)

[eager mulch]

I dont wanna go back to rust either but sdf kinda forcing our hand

[gritty cipher]

has there been any talk about unique and artifact in arenas this wipe?

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE ARENA PLEASE

[loud cobalt]

Can we get @glad thunder kitchen to be a arena map

[halcyon marten]

whats being added in the mini wipe?

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE ARENA PLEASE

[hearty herald]

crazy how I see a discussion on the game about how the devs and graysun actually have no proof of doing anywork and graysuns response is go to the tavern

[uncut imp]

these devs want this game to die this is the only explanation for these trash updates your player count has halved might be the worst devs in gaming

[grand lily]

yo chat who is this dude

[raven wasp]

LF1M HR Goblin caves Double bossin no gear https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1382789789253767178

[mighty prism]

Damn all 3 of your viewers are probably devastated man 😭

[lyric creek]

[hearty herald]

honestly F you Graysun you piece of 💩 you and your crappy dev team with 2 and half years since the last major content update that had substance. If yall actually did your job like you claim to do the community would not be in this sour spot. Honestly corrupt from the top down in every way and you killed your game that had the most potential that I have ever seen.

[lyric creek]

i feel like you havent been playing for 2 and 1/2 years if you think there hasnt been any major content updates with substance...

[chrome haven]

Wait have they changed their mind on removing adventure mode ?

[abstract apex]

tbd

[mystic coral]

I hope so that's why I started playing again

[quartz osprey]

guys they stole the game from nexxon, got raided and evidence was confiscated, they made micro transactions to make money, and now they’re tanking the game so they can move on with the millions they made. they haven’t made any good changes because they didn’t make the game and don’t know how to improve it

[hearty herald]

I played the wipe before last and have played for about a year prior and the balance changes, messing with fog of war, maybe adventure mode but that does nothing new.

[lyric creek]

No, Please go and research what actually happened before popping off with your nonsense rant.

[hearty herald]

If you put a gun to my head and ask me to list content that was added in the last 2 years I would say pull the trigger because I cant think of any

[quartz osprey]

how about no

[mystic coral]

I don't think the current state of the game is as bad as everyone seems to make it out to be

[lyric creek]

they added nightmare tier monsters and a whole new inferno lay out, there's new armor, new class, new spells. added ruins in combo with the castle in a layer that makes sense. got ourselves new bosses to fight new mini bosses. There's all kinds of added content

[quartz osprey]

who uses the new gear? maybe a few pieces are good. arcane garb being one. like those items aren’t good and don’t add a lot to the game

[lyric creek]

😅 spew words that you don't understand then. They didnt steal the game from nexxon, they stole code.

[quartz osprey]

do you know what a game is? it’s code…

[lyric creek]

no its not. go sit down you have 0 idea what you are even on about. Code is what runs the game not the game itself.

[hearty herald]

Ive been here since druidm sorc being added left a sour taste in my mouth as I was a wizard fan and I felt like sorc is just better wizard but I will give you that. ruins and the undergroud were in the game before they combined them not really new content other than layout changes same with inferno, layout changes is not content. I dont remember the new mini bosses I felt like they have always been there but I havent played in awhile so I could mis remember

[desert orchid]

are u guys gonna keep playing after semi wipe

[boreal flame]

SparkyKawa is still a huge fan of sdf and suppots devs

[quartz osprey]

brother they got all the models from a database and the stolen code are the actual mechanics of the game. the part that makes the game good is the stolen code😂

[lyric creek]

you have absolutely 0 idea what code was stolen. As I said. GO LEARN before you speak

[hearty herald]

its Graysuns furry ult again

[quartz osprey]

they stole the game from nexxon and don’t know how to maintain it and that’s why it’s dying 🙂

[shut timber]

read my mind, read my vision

[lyric creek]

GO LEARN, it wasnt the game that was stolen... it wasnt even the mechanics, how can you be so wrong yet still so brave ?

[quartz osprey]

look pal, nexxon would’ve done better. is this an SDF or graysun alt?

[lyric creek]

they wouldnt have done better, this game wasnt even in development in any way by nexxon... How can you be this dense ?

[quartz osprey]

crazy to be defending a game that will die but okay

[mystic coral]

As far as I'm aware nexon didn't make the game former employes of nexon helped develop it but not nexon

[lyric creek]

crazy to not know what you are talking about and divert the conversation when you start to realize how wrong you are.
Fun fact.
Why aren't you currrently playing a nexxon game ?
Cause their games are bad.

[wind marsh]

??? Not at all true from his latest
video. Dude quit DaD. Weird thing to lie about.

[wind marsh]

Bruh I passed on Dave the Diver even though it won a bunch of awards because of what they were doing to IM. Now I’m gonna go back and play it lol. They’re evil for sure but they make some good games.

[coral shard]

this chat is so shit

[lyric creek]

one of them maple story lovers arent you.

[wind marsh]

Shit game = shit chat

[quartz osprey]

so what exactly was the 8 billion won for

[mystic coral]

More or less information being passed around that shouldn't have been from my understanding

[wind marsh]

No never played it. Doesn’t look like my kind of game.

[lyric creek]

it was ₩8.5 billion... I know you don't know anything and if I have to start educating you I'm gonna start charing you per reply... that ₩8.5 billion is only 5.9 million dollars.

[quartz osprey]

nah I don’t want education from someone in the dark and darker discord. pretty simple question I asked tho, someone of your caliber should be able to answer

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE ARENA PLEASE

[lyric creek]

Yes — Ironmace legally can sell or transfer all rights to Dark and Darker, including its code and IP
IP (copyrights, source code, trade secrets, trademarks, etc.) is legally treated like property, and the owner has the right to sell or license it to others

^ meaning. Get this, The code is their code. meaning Nexon has 0 rights to it.

Wild right. next reply I have to give is $4.99.

[quartz osprey]

buddy, terry and sdf took code and assets from the P3 project at Nexon to use for dark and darker. now whether they wrote the code and made the assets isn’t publicly disclosed, they still took that nexon property to use for themselves. and by the looks of it they did not write the code because the updates have been trash and the content is not keeping people around.

[wind marsh]

$4.99 for feet pics

[desert orchid]

Bet they wont be buffing druid squire dmg since its like 15 dmg per hit to negative pdr dummy 😂

[flat pier]

do portals spawn in the last circles of ice hell on highroller?

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE ARENA PLEASE

[vast kayak]

how much is $4.99 in won?

[quartz osprey]

this doesn’t even make sense in regard to the point that I am making. dark and darker would not exist without the code/assets from the P3 project at Nexon. If they are under contract at Nexon whatever is made with Nexon is Nexon property lmfao. quite simple, unsure how you’re not understanding.

[lyric creek]

if you went and learned you'd learn that it makes sense because dark and darker isnt nexons game... it never was. Its a completely different project than p3 and what was stolen wasnt what you think was stolen they were build assets. But cause you choose to not now you are in here getting educated.

[shut timber]

3,637.00m usd

[quartz osprey]

bro😭 you must actually be an Ironmace employee like the extent you’re going to here is astounding. if it was a completely different project from p3 why was 8.5 billion won to be paid to Nexon by ironmace?😂 if you’re saying it was a completely different project and the assets that were taken do not apply to dark and darker, why did ironmace have to pay nexon?

[lime verge]

Whats the new gear gunna look like

[quartz osprey]

i’ve never seen someone defend the game like this, it’s as if you have ties to it. seems sus to me but truly I don’t care enough to continue arguing or “getting educated”. game is cooked pal

[unkempt anchor]

WHERE THE FROCK IS MY UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA YOU KOREAN NWORDS

[lyric creek]

The court ruled that game plans and rules created internally at Nexon—the “components and their combinations”—were protected trade secrets. This included elements like class systems, mechanics, and server architecture . It was a petty lawsuit where they sued for things like if nike were to sue you for putting a logo that looks like theirs on something

[lyric creek]

you dont have to have ties to something to stop people from spewing incorrect nonsense. Stop lowering the IQ of the world and educate yourself.

[unkempt anchor]

GAME WILL DIE 🔜 IF THEY DON’T RELEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA U KOREAN NWORDS

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE ARENA PLEASE

[lyric creek]

edit the post, hating a specific country and using racial slurs is still a no no, as well as bypassing the chat filter

[unkempt anchor]

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder ARTIFACT ARENA

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA PLEASE @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[elfin zodiac]

is anyones else game crashing alot??

[stark forge]

is the cursed crown from GK used in a quest this wipe?

[buoyant edge]

Sdf get fired yet? Also is solos and duos back? Surely one of those two things happened in a week right? 😭

[unkempt anchor]

Verify the game files on steam

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder ARTIFACT ARENA?!

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA PLEASE @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[unkempt anchor]

He said that they will be removing SOLO/DUO but in his recent message in “sdf’s burnout” he said that they won’t be removing it but they will remove the circle/zone so probably they will add static blue portals again

[cursive portal]

Why can't I create a voice channel anymore?

[elfin zodiac]

@unkempt anchor how do i verify

[unkempt anchor]

If we are being realistic, artifact/unique arena will come out next friday for the last week of the wipe since that is how they did it last season, that’s however if they do decide to to add it.

[heavy shoal]

Yeah but they should just do it now lol

[unkempt anchor]

Search “how to verify game files on steam” on youtube , i’m sure you will find a simple and easy guide 😉

[unkempt anchor]

Just keep spamming @zinc sparrow and asking him if they will add artifact/unique arena this season, at least that’s what i’m gonna do 🤣

@zinc sparrow We can see that you are online, it’s just a simple question, will there be unique/artifact arena this season for the last week of wipe or no?

[heavy shoal]

same here lol

[unkempt anchor]

It’s takes 10 seconds to respond to such a simple question with a yes/no , come on @zinc sparrow we know your time isn’t as valuable as you make it to be

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA PLEASE @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[unkempt anchor]

@zinc sparrow Community manager my ass, can’t even answer a simple freaking question…

[cursive portal]

On?

[boreal flame]

So sad to see how people are treating devs like @zinc sparrow Who have done everything to deliver to this community.

[unkempt anchor]

Done everything AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[cursive portal]

Almost had me bro

[boreal flame]

Sdf and graysun have dedicated the last 3 years of their life only to be crucified bt youtubers trying to earn some clicks on their videos and it's so disgusting, there should be a defamation suit for the amount of hate and threats brought onto devs by bad actors in the discord. Notlikeus and Todd father need to delete their videos like misleading information right now

[slim aurora]

Anyone not playing the game got some gold they can spare so i can finish my arena kit ?

[boreal flame]

There is another youtuber, Toddfather harassing Graysun and promoting fake news in his videos to garner views for attention/clout

[wicked mesa]

Toddfather is the goat and speaking nothing but the truth, he also just reiterated what Soma and Odin revealed about their working experience with them on their podcast

[buoyant edge]

Yeah I mean only keeping it in high roller is essentially removing it

[boreal flame]

His "truth" is bad faith discussions targeting innocent devs without providing any information with his claims. He's also just a story teller and making bs up

[wicked mesa]

He was literally taking somas and odins statements but ok, keep shilling for these "innocent" devs

[unkempt anchor]

Hop off their D bro , they have not delivered like ever, every single patch is absolute abomination, they stole the idea of the game from Nexon, latest mobs that they have added into their game were bought off of Unreal Engine 5 store for a couple hundred bucks, game is in worst state that it’s ever been in, look at “sdf’s kitchen” it’s absolute cringe fest , all he does is apologise for the things that they haven’t added cause they are lazy and don’t even work on things like for example “Quiver” that was supposed to be added a few years ago, essentially those 3 years they have been feeding us lies and promises without any real work, honestly IRONMACE is on of the worst gaming companies there is out there

[wanton crown]

such a good convept for game abso;utly trashed by iromace

[unkempt anchor]

THIS
concept of the game is amazing but every single change they make is making it worse, wish Nexon would take over the game

[wanton crown]

i have put 1000 hours in, i love the game but hate what its become.

[inner marsh]

The game* the lawsuits documents are semi-public thanks to some Korean media and they are a very interesting read for any law students around

[buoyant edge]

Bro they made so much money and now are letting the game die you actually think they care? Every wipe adds next to nothing and they just up and said they are removing all solos and duos which is probably over 80% of the community. They dgaf

[wanton crown]

reomoving solos was what did it for me,m would probably still hop if i could play solo and not get fucked by 3 dudes

[lyric creek]

you really crying over losing squire kit in norms ? like XD what ?

[sonic maple]

All the rogues want their easy cutthroat solo landmine kills

[inner marsh]

The game was in a decline for me since the teaming rules were added years ago.

We had this thing called social that was great way to have dup and solo players deal with trios as well as the weird fenomenon of people ignoring andies or helping them out because they don't give good loot

Now it's pretty much KOS and the newbie experience is so bad I can't bring mordhau vets to this

[unkempt anchor]

The only thing that i’m excited about now is new Pirate🏴‍☠️ /Water💦 map that is coming on 10th of July, i really do hope it comes with multiple layers so it can finally replace Ruins of forgotten castle

[wanton crown]

no, the game just isnt fun when i cant do anything in the dungeon w out getting bodied by 3 barbs. plus, in high roller if youre not rocking a 10k kit on a meta class youre pretty cooked

[cold radish]

Why would you want a pirate map instead of castle ruins? This isn't sea of thieves

[sonic maple]

Blue Maelstrom

[indigo wagon]

Are the devs not gonna nerf sorcerer? Should I just quit?

[buoyant edge]

Yeah for some reason I doubt you have ever touched any named items xD

[sonic maple]

We wait with baited breath

[lyric creek]

wanna see me running around with my ilusory staff cleric ? I have videos of it

[indigo wagon]

Or they don’t nerf it I’ll just quit not gonna play a game when there are unkillable characters

Pretty sad stuff they don’t seem to care about the game balance

[cold radish]

Mello what class you play

[barren ingot]

There won’t be or it would of been announced

[indigo wagon]

Fighter bro but it shouldn’t matter what class I play I can’t kill sorc

[barren ingot]

Skill issue tbh they aren’t even that bad

[inner marsh]

Sorc was in a horrible state a few patches ago where there wasn't a reason to play them, my humble opinion as a cleric they are fine and we have bigger issues at hand

[indigo wagon]

It’s still in the same state bro

[barren ingot]

How many hours you got?

[indigo wagon]

1200 fame on fighter. I play more than damn near anyone. Trust me guys sorc is broke if you disagree you don’t play Enough

[cold radish]

How about you guys stop being pretentious and give the guy some advice. Mello personally I've had the most success vs sorc using a surv bow. Do you play HR or norms?

[barren ingot]

Played since playtest and I don’t have trouble killing them

[indigo wagon]

You guys are in noob lobbies then you aren’t fighting Morty “best sorc na” or some of these players I am or you wouldn’t be dying this lol

[lyric creek]

https://ibb.co/fY5X7MXP
🙂 bask in my glory, bow before your demi-god
peep my dryads and ilusory
drool at the found by name stamp

[barren ingot]

You just one tricked fighter and never learnt what other classes do by the sound of it. You can outplay them quite easily if you know what to look for

[inner marsh]

All lobbies in EU are noob lobbies, we have matchmaking issues , so we take what we can get

[indigo wagon]

I play all classes except Druid. Sorc isn’t balanced bro it’s ok if you don’t agree

[barren ingot]

Ahh the classical im fighting the best players in the game argument. Love to see it

[cold radish]

I agree sorc isn't balanced this guys name is Hogg cause he's current taking one up the as

[barren ingot]

Sorc is strong but it’s certainly not un killable

[indigo wagon]

I mean I am one of the better players so it makes sense but as of recent I’m really struggling I can’t kill sorc at all. Surv bow was a shout. This timmy Hogg just plays norms ignore him

[barren ingot]

Hahaha whatever makes you sleep at night bud. Been here way longer than you. Keep crying

[indigo wagon]

sorc player found ^ hahahaha

[dry nebula]

learn how to shoot a bow/xbow and sorc is ez

[lyric creek]

you wanna see my nightmare frost skeleton skin too that I wasted 100k to religion on ?
🙂 cause its in that same photo

[inner marsh]

I'm not saying sorc doesn't need tweaks, but they are definitely killable and balance isn't as messy as you believe it is

It's pretty good compared to what we had let's say during sorc release

[barren ingot]

I play every class but I’m actually a warlock/Druid main

[cold radish]

A good sorc will cook you if you try to use xbow

[abstract umbra]

😂

[wheat helm]

graysun has confirmed that there is not artefact arena this wipe

[inner marsh]

Have you considered/ Popping by body morphing constantly you make yourself harder to look at

Using door windows

Range

Teamates

There's many factors in a confrontration, we can't factor in just the vacuum of fighter vs sorc

[cold radish]

??? What does that have anything to do with me saying xbow isn't that effective. Xboxw doesn't apply the DPS pressure you need put them in disadvantage and it makes you much slower and the best advantage vs sorc is staying mobile

[buoyant edge]

Dam dude bought a mid ass artifact one of the cheaper ones too lmao. Congrats dog

[abstract umbra]

80% OF SORCS CANT HIT A SPELL BESIDES LIGHTNING STORM AND FROST LIGHTNING

[barren ingot]

1 crossbow hit and they are less than half hp. That is enough pressure

[tired cape]

donot forget the stupid vortex

[inner marsh]

Xbow is a poke tool, mild harrasment to bait a response from the enemy comp

For sorcs and their stats it's also a resource drain

[abstract umbra]

it says found by him

[cold radish]

Ok and then what? You have to reload. If you reload in the open you're getting nuked sorc has more DPS than xbow good luck dodging while reloading so you both take cover and sorc gets potion bandaid in cover and gets back to 85% health

[abstract umbra]

you out your mind they will electric dash away and heal to full

[inner marsh]

That's one less potion for combat, return to cover and continue draining till they are triggered by the poke and agro onto your team

Pushing in most cases for this game WILL be at a disadvantage

[stark radish]

As a sorc enjoyer i can confirm this

[lyric creek]

says "Found by " on it, meaning i earned it ^^ nice try though.

[barren ingot]

And? They aren’t killing you and you can either reposition or make a push if it’s safe to do so without getting fried on the way

You people think that you just oonga boonga after 1 hit on a sorc? That’s why you people get destroyed. Play to win not to kill in 5 seconds

[cold radish]

I think some people are talking about 1v1 and others 3v3. Crossbow is obviously more useful vs sorc in a team situation than 1v1 I didn't think I'd have to spell that out

[inner marsh]

Game is not balanced around 1v1

[abstract umbra]

nah u fight them on ruins and they are 330 ms tping on top of walls and lightning storming you or they are a duo with a ranger with a windlass and they one shot you bc they frost lightning you

[barren ingot]

I’m talking about 1v1 specifically

[drowsy pollen]

game crashed this is a bad game

[tawdry granite]

no this is a good game

[inner marsh]

If are there rangers can cook them, no cover up there and sorc isn't winning a trade vs a ranger in cover

If they drop down you can safely push depending on wall side and then continue preassure

Things don't end in an instant unless one of the parties has krill issues or a bad build/comp

[barren ingot]

If you aren’t 330 ms with weapon out your building wrong in this meta

[abstract umbra]

"oonga boonga"? i play wiz foh and im 330 with weapon out i just dont have a tp

[barren ingot]

You don’t need one to kill a sorc. Like I don’t get your thought process here

[abstract umbra]

so you want me to just run while we have the same ms and they can tp your out of your mind

[cold radish]

Hogg exposing its IQ frfr

[barren ingot]

Feel like you’re just baiting at this point. Have a good one champ

[abstract umbra]

nice pic go start a family 😂 \

[inner marsh]

1v1 will never be balanced in this sort of game

Duos and Trios are the way

[clear pendant]

Factsss

[abstract umbra]

if are there? what?? im talking about a duo team with sorc and ranger frost lightning and a windless headshot your dead thats after you dodge 90% of there spells bc they cant aim and they bring out frost lightning and lightning storm

[cold radish]

The frost lighting stun is too long 100%

[abstract umbra]

sorc is just broken all around

[inner marsh]

For wall stances you can easily poke them off without pushing to force them out

We also have to take into account the big possibility of third party with that

I agree with our friend word we can't say frost lighting stun IS too strong of a cc tool

[abstract umbra]

your crazy asf man

[inner marsh]

You are*

[abstract umbra]

you just said we cant said frost lightning stun is too strong😂

[inner marsh]

Our friend, word we can't say, better now?

[abstract umbra]

no man u type like a Indian man idk what u trna say

[inner marsh]

Sdf give me patience

I agree with our friend, word we cant say, frost lighting stun is too strong of a CC tool

Now or do I have to go indepth about it?

[drifting raptor]

i lost the tavern goodbye

[mossy wing]

Hey

Spam no

[cold radish]

Holy shit that was fast

[inner marsh]

Another copy pasta to the collection

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA PLEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA

[cold radish]

Hmm DaveGPT a bit slower this time

[mossy wing]

I just woke up man xD

[cold radish]

You flicked that last spam I would have reported for cheating

[mossy wing]

[narrow pike]

Thank you for all the hardwork SDF, I really like the vision of your game! 😄

[heavy shoal]

PLEASE UNIQUE/ARTIFACT ARENA

[trail flicker]

can you use skeletons the lich makes for the purple circle? or no

[carmine vessel]

why wont they fire sdf

[cold radish]

No - but you used to a long time ago I think

[lyric creek]

. .. there's 8 billion people in the world.
Yet for some reason you have the audacity to come to a guys server
On a game he's making
That he's fully in control of
wanting him to get fired . . ?
Why does this have to be explained to you ?

[carmine vessel]

most aware dkrider of game state

[abstract umbra]

he deserves to get fired if a dog bites you once you can forgive 2 times time to put it down

[lyric creek]

no you see, you cant be fired from your own project. If you don't like the game leave. No ones keeping you here.

[abstract umbra]

i dont like the direction its going in goof ball, when a dog bites you 20+ times its on you

[cold radish]

We don't like the game so you should leave

[carmine vessel]

"if you dont like it, leave" said by multiple dying media and evntual fade into death when passionate players only wish for the media to thrive

[lyric creek]

you havent learned after all this time? SDF doesnt care what you do or dont like, its still his project

[opal merlin]

no one cares about him leaving or staying in this, is just a way to demostrate discontent in a fun sentence like fire sdf and that stuff dont be so literal about it

[lyric creek]

you take like 30 seconds and look in the mirror, you're doing nothing to make the game better.

[abstract umbra]

he will care when theres 10 people playing and he has a lawsuit for a dead game im hoping it will happen soon

[cold radish]

Malls it's game discussion not game glazing grow up

[carmine vessel]

what is this statement, i am a player not a dev, wtf is this googaagaa logic

[lyric creek]

its game discussion not broken record repeat squeals of invaluable input.

[abstract umbra]

by your logic so are you stop glazing a Korean man

[opal merlin]

and WHAT can the playerbase do? literally u can see from 1 year of updates that they dont listen the community, in fact sdf dont even care about his devs opinnion

[cold radish]

squeals if you don't like it leave! (Valuable input btw)

[lyric creek]

he dont, so as I said why are you here crying ? You think being a toxic downer to the community is gonna do any good ?

[narrow pike]

wdym bro? they do listen to their community.

[inner marsh]

Investors for IM care abot revenue. And as a traded company are required currently

Reviews hurt revenue according to most studies

Bad press for double A studios unlike triple A is also quite harmful, look at chucklefish

With enough bad press IM will, again, change things

[abstract umbra]

100k in the discord 2800 in the dungeon

[lyric creek]

it is valuable input, like if you touch a hot burner and cry cause its hot and its burning you, best advice , remove yourself from it yeah ?

[opal merlin]

yeah, it will sent a message from a ignore community that happens to be the REASON of dnd success, wtf, u dont know how the ip games work or what ?

[narrow pike]

I honestly think that people should start getting banned for the amount of negativity targeted towards Ironmace dev team. They are trying their absolute hardest.

[carmine vessel]

i was in the dungeonborne discord and this was their EXACT reaction, i wonder where that game is now. dnd is not too big to fail, it will die in this direction

[inner marsh]

[lyric creek]

^ this, I'm tired of the constant spew of blind hate.

[abstract umbra]

😂 bro is trying to silence people foh

[wheat helm]

they aren't 👍

[carmine vessel]

hate is if i disagree with you

[narrow pike]

false how do you know they arent?

[unkempt drift]

i saw SDF on the street yesterday, guy ignored me

[lyric creek]

What have you done with your life ? Like why are you here using this community as your output for your failed life ? go do something with it. We don't care, want, or need you type of people anywhere

[opal merlin]

then leave, no one cares about 2 weeks trial new players, literally this people is making dnd succes by played this game from 2 years even more time for some people