game-discussion

[ember aurora]

More healing off of spells/attacks depending on if your running torture mastery or shadow touch

[hardy hornet]

Chose the wrong wipe to play wizard

[lilac musk]

no it's okay SDF, i didn't wanna ever use my legendary gear anyway

[low helm]

clingin to these replys for energy i see

[upper bolt]

YO MEN PLEASE Hello someone know what is Precious Mirror of the Cyclops use for

[versed spoke]

good to see stupid barbs running around every game now

[gilded ether]

Th Occultist Hood gives magical healing

[median holly]

Bro we don't know and this ain't google

[buoyant kernel]

Whata joke... Someone else agrees with me so I must be right, type of shit.

[gilded ether]

But the mastery give only 2 hp, so how is it scales?

[upper bolt]

why

[grand beacon]

the sorc nerf is so huge its insane, absolutely caught a stray bullet in this fiesta C L O W N show

[low helm]

im not saying im right. im just saying others enjoy the patch like i do so im having fun playing against those people in the game. we all having fun

[ember aurora]

For each point of magical healing the 2 scales up to 3-4-5-6 depending on how much magical healing you stack, most warlocks run like 4-6 magical healing

[grand beacon]

cIown ass dev man wtf

[median holly]

Go watch a guide on warlock it's hard to explain everything here

[keen wren]

💀 💀

[versed spoke]

revert this garbage patch barb is stupid asf

[signal venture]

ngl i play this game cause of the feel of playing in 1 person and need to be very precise in ur action and cant waste a second competitively its rreally nice but now everything around it starting to be complete non sense

[fringe zealot]

And your caps lock is broken. Bad day

[ember aurora]

There’s YouTubers who can explain it in more detail than I can, would recommend watching some of those for more info

[river ivy]

can someone explain to me why BOC warlocks can still cast spells? That needs to be changed BADLY

[sterile anvil]

we're all getting run over by barbarian again arent we..

[versed spoke]

revert the barb buffs cause with movespeed its a joke fr

[prime flume]

is warhammer better now or no?

[summer hearth]

who the hell has 80 k right now ?

[low helm]

i feel u man. i hope they meet ur needs, but if they dont its okay to leave a game behind and move on

[summer hearth]

how much money does everyone have rn ?

[tough belfry]

i did that so maybe somebody would actually notice what i said lol i wanna know if its just me

[prime flume]

is war hammer bettert

[lilac musk]

why dont u play and find out brother

[prime flume]

To lazy did anyhone try trhe warhammer out yet

[full creek]

soo can wyvern drop artifacts now?

[grizzled adder]

its ass don't play it at all

[brazen hatch]

what is Chronicles of the Cursed Crown

[restive parrot]

So they buffed barb again wtf

[faint canopy]

is there a way to see how many bosses you've killed this wipe?

[prime flume]

Whats horsemans axe like now? Said it was resized

[fleet surge]

Nope the one thing that’s BEEN BROKEN and yet they still haven’t fixed it or even addressed the issue

[grizzled adder]

its ass don't play it at all

[full creek]

yessir THIS IS THE VISION

[river ivy]

Why can BOC warlocks still cast spells, needs changed instantly.

[plain nacelle]

move speed buff on barb and two stacks of panther jump this update is clapped

[grizzled adder]

Brother , gear back up stop whining

[river ivy]

said like a warlock main LOL

[fleet surge]

@glad thunder ADD ARTIFACTS BACK TO WYVERN

WE HAVE WAITED TOO LONG

[grizzled adder]

no like someone that couldn't care less u died to one of the less good class lmao

[plain folio]

Same as saying why can a clreic run spells and judge or spells and smite

[neon marten]

how do i use gear slots/what are they

[mild lily]

you figure it out in 10 seconds by your own

[neon marten]

i literally cannot

[mild lily]

they are saving you lots of space by< being able to make 3 whole gear sets

[neon marten]

if i click swap gear set it just removes all my stuff and the gear set remains empty

[lilac musk]

yeah just put an item in the slot

[mild lily]

yeah because you placed nothing inside boy

[neon marten]

you can only place looted gear inside?

[mild lily]

you trolling man

[lean crescent]

They should take away the berserk ms buff or the savage roar ms debuff. Barb only needed one, both is so overtuned xD

[coarse pivot]

Can someone explain the new time distortion changes to me, am I reading it right that it basically nerfs your damage as well as the 300% cooldown?

[lilac musk]

no you can put whatever you want man just put gear into the item slots. is this ragebait or what like good lord

[wanton otter]

Imagine being F2P and getting purple loot and that being DISAPPOINTING.

Flawed design imo

Make normal lobbies Purples

[neon marten]

"supply items cannot be equipped in gear slots"

[errant harbor]

@glad thunder when u plan to fix ur fucking game? Why Im playing vs 2 rangers in arena? Why do u own this project if u dont know how to make games bruh

[lilac musk]

bro ryan you just gotta be trolling atp

[wanton otter]

You can't bring Big Luck potion into normals

[static frost]

You can't put squire gear in there

[neon marten]

ok thank you for clarifying

[wind beacon]

SDF is so out of touch, what a joke of a patch

[hexed mist]

No way that is true

[mild lily]

xou cant put squire gear anywhere, so hes trolling and im new to the system too

[lilac musk]

big potion is purpe rarity so you can't bring it in lmao

[neon marten]

im not trolling i just never understood the point of it, you genuinely are so miserable to interact with and this is my first time talking to you 😭

[wanton otter]

Peasant F2P will have to only use BLUES unless they go back to pve ;3

[keen wren]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[wanton otter]

f2p can't use Grimsmile Rings outside pve lmfao

[plain folio]

Get him away from the stove PLEASE 🙏

[near dagger]

does sorc deal more dmg

[wind beacon]

he's been burning the house down since '69 LOL

[mild lily]

i figured it out in 10 seconds and i really dont understand what you doing, i tell you what to do and you want to put squire gear in there, when you can literally puit squire gear nowhere directly, besides on cour character

[cyan kiln]

How tf am I supposed to kill 2 wisps in one match when only one spawns on the entire fucking map iron mace sucks at making quests

[odd meteor]

Now the lobbies is more empty than ever

[neon marten]

and im sorry i didn't know that???? why are you just a ball of fucking bitching

[hexed mist]

Havent played the patch yet but since it costs 0 gear score to cheat the GSS i expected that you could bring it anyway. Basically bc it is pointless whatsoever

[thin bear]

No joke, so far everything feels rather balanced.. other then savage roar
Imo no ability in the game should both reduce your damage and ms, since this gives you literally 0 counterplay
Can't fight or run
Other then that, everything seems ok

[mild lily]

the thing is you are, i tell you what to do and help you and you trolling, then you are insulting me and trying to tell us you got moral high ground , thats real biching

[frank marsh]

yo anyone know if we lose stuff in arena now ?

[neon marten]

im not trolling??? i just genuinely was lost???

[keen wren]

youre acting like he didnt envision and help create the entire game before that. give the man some credit

[mild lily]

spend half the time of your trolling and follow what i say and you could have it figured out, yes you are not thankful for help, instead you insult

[calm rivet]

Seems to be a bug at the moment were barbs can use 2 shouts at once slow aoe within 20 yards and run really fast with a lot of hp and damage

[stable meteor]

Because meaningless life

[neon marten]

you didn't help me, @static frost did. literally the first thing you said to me was "figure it out yourself,"

fuck off and go learn basic human interaction skills

[lilac musk]

sometimes you gotta just figure stuff out on your own man

[mild lily]

i also told you its for saving space, how the F can you save space when you put squire gear in there that you can put nowhere else, you brain--dead or something? You must be trolling or be really d-mb, i actually made excuse for you not having lowest iq by assuming you troll

[neon marten]

yeah except he says that and then claims he was trying to help me 🥀

[neon marten]

idk maybe cus people might want squire presets?? and they dont want to have to search through everything every time?? maybe stop thinking like a 2d preschooler

[lilac bluff]

People still play this?

[neon marten]

im sorry for assuming i could put squire gear in a service offered BY THE SQUIRE

[lilac musk]

squire presets IS the squire, just change it form game to game, why would you care about squire presets, it changes your build by like +2 agility -2 str at most

[limber cape]

Update any good?

[gusty granite]

Bro he's been cooking for the past year and done nothing but burn the meal, why do you still want him cooking?

[neon marten]

now thats a better answer than just calling me a troll 4 times. I just think it'd be a nice qol thing to have, so i can just quick swap between damage or tank build 🙏 have a good night dude

[keen wren]

playercount is up after last patch why are you dooming

[wanton otter]

personally I don't like the colored brackets very much. but white lobbies are back for ppl that enjoy that low power feel

[mild lily]

possibitlity exluded by telling you straight away its for saving space, you playing dmb and troll i thought, butr actually you are

[zenith badger]

my buddy is getting "server error please try again" when he tries to login to launcher. Any known fixes?

[lilac musk]

the point is that unless you have blue or purple or legendary items, common gear chnages don't affect your build enough to warrant having different loadouts for them, that makes no sense as a qol

[raw onyx]

wait did they remove the specating feature entirely or is the UI after death just different?

[neon marten]

imo they do if you build it right, and even then its and optional thing to do, it doesn't seem like its that hard to implement,

[gusty granite]

Probably because the playerbase has been going down with each wipe? So what if it's up rn, it's a brand new patch so of course people will log in to check it out. But on a wipe by wipe basis, the player count is decreasing, or are you that blind?

[distant flare]

would you believe me if i said the game got even worse

[safe tundra]

Why the f is "GreyKnight" too inappropriate for a character name??? game refused to let me use it no matter how I spell it

[neon marten]

we can just agree to disagree 🙏

[tribal cloak]

worse update ever

[sterile anvil]

WHY is religion back in the same way as last wipe?

[pliant tiger]

why

[restive meteor]

I just lost my arena kit testing the dmg on the dummy in gobbo caves in pve. then leaving early rip

[wet wraith]

bro why is it by gear color now thats so stupid

[rapid ridge]

3 letters

[neon marten]

might be cus knight contains the start to a certain word

[tribal cloak]

the variety in gear score is now stupid big

[pliant tiger]

thats a amazing change???

[safe tundra]

Kni????

[wet wraith]

awful

[rapid ridge]

yup. cant do it

[mild lily]

ryan waste the time for his squire gear sets and "trolling", when he could make 20 gear sets in the same time by switching between rounds what he wants, i will never understand this trashtalkers

[neon marten]

contains 😭

[tribal cloak]

are u dumb?

[safe tundra]

??????????

[pliant tiger]

no osunds like you cant abuse gear in low gear scores anymore

[median holly]

We came back since you left

[keen wren]

games have a naturally declining playercount over time. that doesnt mean that the direction they are taking is bad.

Look at marvel rivals which went from 500k to like 150k this year alone. did they really do that bad? no, people just lost interest over time

[wet wraith]

brop this enables that

[rapid ridge]

!

[safe tundra]

I am actually lost wtf is the issue with Greyknight

[tribal cloak]

i shouldnt be able to get gear score diffed by 100k gold in normals

[mild lily]

i think its good that you cant go in with legendary wepon into normal with ur naked barbarian, but since barbarian is buffed it turns out the same in the end with a blue "axe" now

[pliant tiger]

theres no more gear diffs how??

[distant flare]

we’ve played these games before . it cooks the market and makes minmax even worse

[restive meteor]

NVM I GOT IT BACK

[low helm]

id say 20k players is pretty solid for a work in progress game thats 3 years old now. plus the lobbies seemed filled to me so no complaints here

[mild lily]

or just remove the hole gearscore bs, only keep the squire lobbies and then everything above is its own

[tidal gale]

UNINSTALLED F this game

[pliant tiger]

wait can someone explain why the gear score thing is bad i think im misunderstanding something

[tribal cloak]

bro you can bring brave hunters into normals now

[median holly]

Most predictable ending ever

[wet wraith]

bro taking in a legndary before meant u couldnt have other gear and therefore were weak in all other ways @pliant tiger

[rapid ridge]

be free

[keen wren]

exactly. considering how long the game has been out and the exponential growth it had at the start, i would say it has retained its playerbase exceptionally well

[neon marten]

less variety allowed in gear

[distant flare]

blue gear will be worth more than purple. also it makes the long gold based minmax fest

[low helm]

highly agree

[pliant tiger]

ok thanks guys

[mild lily]

no you are actually pretty strong on chestless lizard barbarian, i saw that trash

[tribal cloak]

skill issue

[neon marten]

forced to take all average gear, rather than being able to sacrifice one to strengthen the other, if im reading all this right

[wet wraith]

one trick pony

[devout pollen]

Gear scored was created because of crybabies, it was a contested idea at first ... Now we have 5 different fking lobbies... which kind of low life is going to gear up to go into a "BLUE GEAR NORMAL" like what ? this whole concept of gear based lobbies was breeded by crybabies that forgot the hardcore nature of the game. I want all the rat rogues back in highroller over this honestly: just make it NORMAL AND HIGHROLLER . DONE

[mild lily]

yeah of course skill issue as always, just as longsword not blocking and chesing your weapon into the charakter model is skill issue, ye ye

[low helm]

people who are mad at this change are the people who min max the best weapons and rolled lower gear people for fun

[distant flare]

i’ve always glazed but this is the worst wipe since multi classing. that’s fact

[smoky estuary]

Is lots of pots quest not tracking right?

[keen wren]

ayo multiclassing was something else bro

[neon marten]

i do not remember multiclassing being a thing, when was that

[gusty granite]

If you honestly think the direction the game has gone has been good and that there's nothing wrong with sdf 's "vision", than I'm sorry but you defending this shit is what's wrong with the game and one of the reasons the game is in the shit state it's in, stop defending shit

[stable meteor]

indeed

[distant flare]

whole wipe was chalked from the beginning

[robust crypt]

Whats the dropchance for the cockatrice egg?

[tulip socket]

WHY DO YOU KEEP BUFFING DRUID AFTER SAYING YOU'LL NERF DRUID SDF

[oak topaz]

The problem is all hr sweats go bully the normal less geared ppl lol

[mild lily]

yeah right, they cried from the start, it was not about the gear but OP barbarians since the playtests and other op ish, they never understood it and its also not baalanced anyway, you get best rolls on your gear you just unmached , especially when you play op barbarian build where you get a bonus for not wearing a chest, it doesnt make any sense - at least you could have the chance of someone ding to pve or unlucky fights and get some big reward, gearscore never was cutting it

[median holly]

Close to zero

[low helm]

naw the people crying patch to patch begging for revert are whats wrong imo. iron mace finally had enough of listening to those people and are sticking true to their plan through and through. a super iron mace w

[devout pollen]

thats not a problem, thats THE GAME

[lost yarrow]

@low helm "true plan" aka barb and barber

[robust crypt]

i am on my way to killing 200 of them

[low helm]

weird somehow im still killing barbs

[jaunty flare]

I think people are dramatic, bard isn't gonna end up that fucking broken lol. It's been useless for weeks

[distant flare]

true plan of nerfing wizard again

[noble aurora]

newer player, can anyone sum up religions for me? ty

[rapid ridge]

sure. they're useless. youre welcome

[median holly]

I gave up on this questline

[low helm]

i guess we shall see what gets adjusted in the future

[civic veldt]

This patch has been the worst patch since I started playing a few months ago

[distant flare]

bro you have been typing all day. there is no way you have played 1 game.

[mild lily]

most builds i play aint stand a chance nowdays anyway anymore, you need big MS for lots of builds or you just never reach the enemy , or you just get fcked by some op fighter or barbarian or ranger, just getting a bonus with the gear. Only some meta builds can compete, thats all there is to it

[low helm]

naw im definetly playing as we speak

[static frost]

You can select one to get whatever buff it lists. As ppl donate to that one it'll get better. You can get that benefit for free. If you want to get the skin & other things it has to offer you need to donate 100k (for maxing it)

[forest mortar]

Just died to a 330 ms full tunic barb in lower tier high roller, over 500gs with the amount of frannies he brought in

[rapid ridge]

they gotta adjust barb by nerfing it worse than it was before ngl

[devout pollen]

@low helm does ironmace give you a salary to drop "W PATCH IRON MACE" in this chat all day or you just been here for 6 hours straight with nothing else to do ?

[woeful raft]

80k for a chest through religion .

[distant flare]

he just said he’s been killing barbs all day

[low helm]

why does my personal life concern u. i enjoy the game and patch and thats all u need to know lol

[oak topaz]

Lmao.
Rank system exist so ppl pvp on a skill based match up.
U just want adults to fight babies hahahahhaha

[mild lily]

classic

[civic veldt]

Religion all about that end skin and trying to semi stabilize the economy by dumping gold

[keen wren]

can you imagine a world where everyone chills, they keep developing the game, release more classes and other content (like they planned), get balancing right and then hype the 1.0 for official release?

I hope when that day comes all the old players, new players and content creators turn to this great game and it reaches the highest player count it ever has

[distant flare]

only arena has a rank system ?

[oak topaz]

How u kill barbs.
M getting bonked by em

[devout pollen]

then make it an actual match making but not based on gear based on performance. also the way it is not with 5 diffrent gear grades is just totally fkin stupid

[mild lily]

ever heard of demigod?

[distant flare]

not a rank it’s a check point for playing the game enough.

[noble aurora]

thanks fam!

[oak topaz]

The rank system i meant other games.
Rank system in dark and darker is basically gear score

[mild lily]

its called a rank...

[civic veldt]

at this rate it aint happening. MS on all gear was insane, and now to basically FORCE it if you don't want to play squire gear is just ..... hello??

[low helm]

well im a wiz so i use range and when they get close i back off and kite and dam and kite and dam. i have cc with wiz as well as inv

[near steeple]

[distant flare]

and the koreans don’t know what the word rank actually means

[static frost]

I would recommend the cooldown reduction one, seems to be the best option

[rapid ridge]

I don't know what people are arguing about now but just know that you're wrong and you should be upset

[mild lily]

i just get fcked in the game if i play anything otherr than the best meta builds

[oak topaz]

What's the class that can destroy u as a wizard?

[vestal ridge]

WHATS THE BEST BOW FOR FIGHTER?

[devout pollen]

druid rogue ranger

[mild lily]

hand crossbow

[keen wren]

yes but lets recognize that when they made bad decisions they backtracked on them and fixed the game. ofcourse they make mistakes and experiment with things. its early access and they are a small team

[civic veldt]

crossbow

[open maple]

used to be able to go into 224 lobbies with green jewelry with true damage, build the rest of gear score with cheaper blues and purples. Now I will be fighting people BiSed out in entire purple kits.

[low helm]

rogue, druid, bard, ranger, a good fighter can do the trick too

[spice mantle]

The removal of gear score is absolutley ass

[distant flare]

bro is keeping barb perfectly at 8m so he’s outside of roar slow range all while trolling chat. insane skill diff

[noble aurora]

yeah im also thinking that seems like most are as well, the luck seems cool but you can't really know how effective it's being at any given time unlike CD reduction

[static frost]

I would second this, unless you're already running weapon mastery, it saves you a perk

[mild lily]

they farming the pve mode

[oak topaz]

I was getting bullied by wizards as a longsword plate fighter.
Now i wanna bully them back

[noble aurora]

what does bis mean? i keep seeing that used

[civic veldt]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize how badly this impacted the game. They're way too slow with player feedback, and it seriously makes me doubt any of them actually play the game

[low helm]

longsword isnt good against wiz since shield is used to block spells

[distant flare]

longbow ranger can 2/3 shot wizards

[static frost]

Best in slot

[oak topaz]

It's not removed it's still unchanged

[gusty granite]

Bro people have wanted them to work on content forever, that's all everyone has wanted. Ironmace is the one doing the back and forth dance constantly playing with the numbers dial and reverting every patch they do. If they spent even half the time they spend doing those things, and actually used that time to develop the game, the game would be in a much better state than it's in now. Why are you defending their incompetence?

[open maple]

best in slot, essentially just superrrrrr expensive gear with max stats a class needs

[keen wren]

yes its true. if they did everything right it could have been more popular. but they have done the best they can and in the end built an amazing product

[static frost]

Yea LS is fun. But it's troll

[keen wren]

why are you so certain that it is incompetence driving their decisions?

[low helm]

they have stated they have a 10 year developement plan, so in terms of developement its still a young toddler

[lyric vault]

Lol buff to barb is to funny they should of buffed druid to

[distant flare]

“why are you so certain the sun will rise tomorrow?”

[shrewd cove]

Is spectral bag recipe next week?

[oak topaz]

It's not troll against melee classes.
Driud bear
Cleric
Barb(not felling axe one)
...

[coral tide]

why this game was good before patch and now its sucks xppp l for developers

[civic veldt]

You need to take a look at games like h1z1 as an example. Amazing game, amazing product, devs took things into their own hands and killed it. You can have an amazing product but if you shit all over it, at the end of the day all it is, is shit smeared trash

[gusty granite]

The game was going on a good direction until sdf decided his "vision" was more important and did that whole patch 69 debacle, and it's gone downhill since then, it's insane people like you are defending "the vision" when that vision is what's wrong with the game, sdf needs to stop being so clingy

[dusky spruce]

Ten Years Later: As a test, we've returned 0-24 and made goblin caves 3x3 again.

[noble aurora]

ty fam ive been watching frwog and i thought he just was saying piss in a funny way LOL

[low helm]

haha that would be hilarious but very unlikely

[open maple]

yeah i think people call bad gear piss or boof

[gusty granite]

Bro at the rate their going, this game is not going to last 10 years, I'm sorry

[distant flare]

smite is back to 0.75 scaling

[static frost]

It is pretty unreliable, and having a shield will win you alot more fights

[halcyon flax]

Sdf has no idea how to avoid this game dying

[open maple]

they manage to piss off both new players and old players

[dusky spruce]

This is take i dont want to agree with buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut....

[low helm]

game grew from last wipe to this wipe. its too early to doom that hard

[shrewd cove]

Spectral coinbag was 150 affinity last wipe. Is it 200 this one?

[distant flare]

HUH

[oak topaz]

But the parry so satisfying.
I once parry headshot barb and cleric 1v2.
Almost cmed hahahhahahahaha (j. K)

[keen wren]

in my opinion patch 69 was a step in the right direction. i agree it was completely unsatisfying in terms of gameplay but it could have easily been worked out in later patches, with changes that me and others suggested.

but instead of building further on that we got a kneejerk revert patch reaction because the community forced them into it by review bombing on steam

[civic veldt]

It's just insane to me how much worse things have gotten. How could you be so out of touch with your own game? The gear score system was FINE. Movement speed restricted to certain items was FINE. Why tweak something that works?

[distant flare]

the mask is slipping with this one

[manic hill]

i mean sure, but the playtests overall did better than the game has done as a whole since them.

[mossy adder]

Honestly I think this is the best gear bracket system so far and the cryfest around it is bizarre. It's straightforward and intuitive instead of arbitrary gearscore numbers and the rarity of gear allowed steps up with the difficulty of the dungeon and the rewards.

[vocal turtle]

how long does it take for someone to respond to your ban ticket ?

[civic veldt]

Because of twitch drops

[gusty granite]

Dude...SO MANY people left because of patch 69 and HATED IT, that's why basically the whole patch got reverted. The fact you think patch 69 was a step in the right direction shows that you are exactly what's wrong with the game

[mild lily]

69 is my fav number

[keen wren]

i think that is shortsighted of you. in my opinion you dont understand the *potential greatness of patch 69

[vocal vine]

savage roar buff is pretty good i like it

[distant flare]

we had 12k players midweek

[low helm]

yeah they did twitch drops for the first time. so why doom now and say its gonna die lmao. its a little harsh

[static frost]

It is pretty funny ngl

[gusty granite]

If the patch was so great, why did they go back on every change they made during it and why so many people hated the patch and left because of it? Riddle me that one

[uneven sage]

hello i have question 10% coldown reduction its 1 s or what time

[distant flare]

uh that was the 2nd twitch drops

[keen wren]

because the community pressured them into it, since they released such an upsetting patch mid-wipe and a lot of people were angry about it. resulting in review bombing on steam

everyone back then agreed (including me) that they should have released that patch on the test servers first. so that it could have been made better with community feedback

[shrewd cove]

Spectral coinbag was 150 affinity last wipe. Is it 200 this one?

[dusky spruce]

The savage roar thing wouldnt even be an issue if Barbarian wasnt the "im going to delete you" class. It's an ability that makes sense in a game where movement isn't the only valid defense you have.

[vocal vine]

savage reckless goes kinda hard. still getting kited by 330 with bow/book out ragned classes but now i feel like i dont auto lose melee as much anymore

[civic veldt]

of all things this is what you're complaining about

[distant flare]

if they were listening to the community we should’ve seen cleric nerf and removing ms rolls

[gusty granite]

I mean if they release a game changing patch for the worse in the middle of a wipe, yeah that's pretty shitty and deserves bad reviews, so I don't see your point and don't understand why you still bend over for Ironmace, I hope the paycheck they're giving you is good

[low helm]

true but either way the game grew from last wipe to this wipe

[manic hill]

there were turning points. the first being alot of the changes after the playtests and the actual EA launch. the second was all attributes and move speed being removed, and then the couple instances of multiclassing, after that they continue to make meta changing even game changing updates in the middle of seasons. and they have at least 3-4 times i can remember brought back things the playerbase overall disliked without any tweaks. then when they actually portray information, its too spread out for normal players to grasp. you have info coming out on other players streams from the devs, in their tavern table twitch thing, you have information in general chats they post, information in announcements, theres no hub anywhere to keep up with all these things unless you are scowering the discord day in and day out.

[dusky spruce]

but eyo lets talk about those religion stats. They want pretty hard with the benefits this wipe

[snow moss]

Hello guys I am new to arena. Which type items are no loss for this mode ? Thanks in advance!

[distant flare]

no it didn’t? look at the charts brudduh mon

[keen wren]

that does not warrant negative reviews in my opinion because its an early access and pretty amazing game.

it makes me chuckle when i read a negative review on steam with 1200 hours. like come on bro

[static frost]

Best u can do there is let them push you, try and play a door way/hall. When they step in you gottem. More or less

[civic veldt]

cdr was a poor choice. Benefits some classes way more than others. Doesn't even do anything for double spell wiz

[low helm]

steam charts arent the full player base of the game brother

[quick ermine]

Nerf rogue but buff Druid lmao this dev gotta have the d syndrome

[keen wren]

[noble aurora]

you dont lose anything at all

[rocky wren]

Game is Deader than it’s ever been 💀 Constantly recycling the same content over n over 💀

[uneven sage]

10% cooldwon reduction what seconds its ?

[dusky spruce]

It's crazy strong on sorc and fighter, but yea the spell recovery one is mandatory for wiz. my issue is that once i pick a religion i feel like thats gonna dictate my class choice.

[woeful raft]

lma o pretty much.

[quick ermine]

Not only same content but makes the absolute worst buffs and nerfs ever actually crazy

[shrewd cove]

Yeah yeah barb buffs wizard nerfs rogue nerfs (good) dumb sorc changes whats new. The only thing not mentioned was the coinbag change. Trying to see if ppl got info I missed

[snow moss]

thanks

[distant flare]

so you think the player count is growing and all the new players are on blacksmith??????
in game count was 12k during the middle of this week?????
less than 30 days into wipe

[gusty granite]

So because it's early access it's not allowed to be shit? So every early access game is never shit because it's early access, is that what you're saying?

[vocal vine]

for sure that was mostly me letting the timmies know that this isnt barb and barber they just have to actually think about ranging/parrying/running away from barbs

[quick ermine]

Gutted rogue this game fukin sucks

[civic veldt]

its really not that bad tbh

[keen wren]

No and i dont want to give them too much slack for being early access. i think if we start doing that it gives developers an excuse to release shittier games.

But my point is that if such a major change was done through the proper channels it would have had a better response from the community. The test server was there for a reason. and a major part of the critisizm and anger towards the changes back then were because it was implemented mid-wipe

[quick ermine]

All our damages in every form got nerfed lmao let me go get three-4 tapped by any other class while I have to land 6-10 hits but it’s not that bad lmao

[gusty granite]

I'll agree to that, the fact the test server is so underused and their way of communicating is via twitch streamers is insane

[worldly flume]

castillon buffed akshually 🤓

[rocky wren]

SDF is to busy blowing off dude to fix the game 💀

[minor creek]

Fun fact the test server dead ass doesn’t work right now and if you submit a ticket they respond saying it’s not their priority and recommend playing on the live servers. I’ve never seen a less competent dev team 🗿

[quick ermine]

That dagger sucks just as much d as sdf lmao

[keen wren]

they have not had it easy and in a lot of situations last year i would not want to be in their shoes

[bitter citrus]

the funny part is people actually paid to have access to those test servers lol

[knotty nova]

you don't get to feel bad for someone that shot their own foot

[distant flare]

that’s what it’s been reduced to but not at the time.

[prime crypt]

They could make castillon the best dagger the game has ever seen and i still wouldnt touch it

[rocky wren]

SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES

[keen wren]

I truly believe they did the best they could, why wouldnt they have? Just incompetence? Is incompetence even a valid reason to hate on someone?

[minor creek]

I’m not gonna argue with that but at the same time they are doing an incredibly bad job the balancing changes they make one could even argue they want their game to die lmao

[worldly flume]

no joke tho short sword still untouched, 33dmg at lego, not as awful to run with how much MS u can get now, kinda maybe very slightly viable

[manic hill]

not enough of a playerbase for a test server at the moment to be fair.

[knotty nova]

....have you seen their patches?

[quick ermine]

Yea but then I lose armor pen from thrust they deadass gutted rogue unless you spend bread to make a vigor move speed kit

[west garden]

How come no one playing arena rn?

[keen wren]

yes. are these not the patches of a company that is doing the best they can to balance income and expenditures while fighting off a lawsuit and releasing new content?

[worldly flume]

true, only viable rogue kit is 180hp 330ms double jumper with short sword rn. like sure let me drop a gk or 2 for 1 kit thats gonna be ass

[quick ermine]

They simply don’t know how to balance the game and only balance it around what the d sucker plays at the current time lmaoo it’s sad

[pliant tiger]

axe speication on bardiche or headshot axe perk

[drowsy pebble]

wtf did the arena leaderboard reset im back to blue?

[rocky wren]

SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES SDF SUCKS OFF DUDES

[pliant tiger]

axe speciation on bardiche or headshot axe perk

[west garden]

Neither

[knotty nova]

what does income and expenditures have to do with being able to competently balance and patch a game? smaller teams and devs do it 1000x better

[pliant tiger]

what perks do i use then

[keen field]

I call it glazing, rhymes with Grug

[keen wren]

so then are you saying that we should be angry because of their incompetence? if they are doing the best they can why would we

[west garden]

You can use Axe

[mint ruin]

you guys hands down are the first game to continuously push patches out and push things that have already been tested out.. then say we cant tell you the vision but its there.. how do investors look at this and say we can get behind this. lmao

[limber jolt]

this!

[knotty nova]

yes? that's a perfectly valid reason to be angry, lol

[west garden]

I got killed by a Druid.

[keen wren]

my point is that they have no motive to make bad changes. they are not trying to ruin the game. lets help them make the game better instead of hating and review bombing like some people with over 1000 hrs in this amazing game

[manic hill]

i get it. the devs do cook sometimes. but acting like their patches are always a step forward is actually contradicting. there have been multiple patches, 3-4 easily i can remember in my mind where they brough back a system that did not work, that had horrible player retention. and they made 0 changes to it. they do actually cook with some great updates sometimes, but acting like the bad ones are okay because they are going through a hard time..... this is a business in the long run and its about making money and making their consumers happy. theyve started advertising again which is good probably because of the money they made from the dlc. but from a longevity standpoint for the game, constantly bringing back old systems with 0 change because they want to test how the playerbase reacts to it wont make the game better. it will lose players in the long run, because these systems theyve constantly brought back and tested time and time again never end up staying for long. so now we end up having 2 years of balancing and rebalancing and no time to actually focus and work on new content.

[knotty nova]

you realize HUNDREDS of people have given them feedback on things and they just ignore it, right?

[bitter citrus]

glazing and defending them do absolutely zero to help the game. criticism does infinitely more. pressure makes diamonds

[west garden]

I got killed my Panther Druid who would run Heal then come back and repeat until I died. Really sdf? :/

[rocky wren]

holy shit budddy wrote a whole ass paragraph ain’t no one reading that shit

[bitter citrus]

bruh went full tldr

[low helm]

u do realized they said theyre done listening and will stick to the vision they thinks best

[quick ermine]

This game is dying quick cause they don’t play their own game and it shows nerfed fucking rogue just to buff Druid and barb like what the actual fuck

[manic hill]

if you could read, it wouldnt be too challenging trust.

[keen wren]

i think the community is not always right about the direction a game should take. for example a hardcore playerbase may want changes that turns a beginning player away, hindering growth of the playerbase

[rocky wren]

@manic hill Terrible rage bait 😭💀

[knotty nova]

oh I realize it, which is why most of us stop playing. SDF's "vision" is comparable to someone wearing a blindfold

[gusty granite]

[low helm]

19k players today. doesnt sound like most stopped playing

[manic hill]

exactly though, yet they release systems that dont work over and over and use the excuse "we want to see how the dungeons change with this system implemented again" and change things based on the players response. thats literally the devs asking the community to give them their take. and then they do nothing with it?

[quick ermine]

Sdf has a vision to make his dev team poor and stop paying them so he puts out the worst patches known to any game in mankind lol

[prisma lava]

bro this barb buff got me opressed af

[knotty nova]

8k bots farming adventure mode for gold is kekw

[bitter citrus]

that's quite a strawman argument. what hardcore players? all the streamers want more noob friendly changes. how do you know what your hypothetical hardcore players want?

[low helm]

projecting?

[scenic wren]

It's exactly this. They act like it's just to see how things are, but like we've collected this data like 3 times already. I'm tired of this amnesiac cycle of doing the same shit over and over as we bleed players

[mint ruin]

@scenic wren thisss

[manic hill]

exactly. how much data do they need to collect from a system before they actually make a change to it?

[feral patrol]

MAKE PVE MODE COMPLETELY SEPARATE PLEASE... U SHOULDNT EVEN BE ABLE TO DO QUESTS ON IT... ITS NOT THE GAME!!!

[jaunty flare]

I'm just curious cause of all the rage in here lol. People thing barb was a good pick before the update? Balanced and tuned to be equal for the other classes? Lol

[knotty nova]

in what way? you really trying to say that a majority of the playerbase isn't SEA on US servers farming gold?

[keen wren]

do you think streamers and the hardcore playerbase are so similar you could consider them the same group? because i think that streamers have different motives compared to anonymous players

[quick ermine]

I wanna beat up sdf so bad

[mystic dagger]

what is the best boss to farm in non-high gear pvp modes. I dont know if banshee drops anything good. Is troll or cyclops good choices?

[low helm]

majority is playing normals low gear pvpve dungeons @knotty nova

[keen wren]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[bitter citrus]

how do you know what either of their motives are or what the hardcore players want en masse?

[civic veldt]

prob troll

[tribal spindle]

WTB PULVERIZING PRAYER message me on discord

[hushed cairn]

How do I fix the "Tavern is not working!" bullshit?

[wanton otter]

f2p can't use Grimsmile Rings outside pve lmfao

[manic hill]

troll for pelt, spectral for fabric, you can do lich for dark matter, and ghost king has okay drops. the other bosses i wouldnt worry about if you are doing norms

[keen wren]

my point was that i can envision a situation where an experienced playerbase wants changes that an inexperienced part of the playerbase does not want. this pertains to balance between expression of skill and performance

[calm torrent]

is it me or is the game crashing much more often after recent patch?

[static frost]

F2p prob don't even know what a grimsmile is tbf

[wanton otter]

No lobster f2p :/

[bitter citrus]

oh so you had a vision of players and in that world that's what they wanted. makes sense now

[low helm]

[wet wraith]

bro what was the logic in this?

[calm torrent]

cyclops if ur lazy and just want easy pile hits for some reason xd

[low helm]

team comp balance

[manic hill]

honestly changes to bracketed lobbys will probably incentivize more people to upgrade from the squire account more money could mean more advertising so its not horrible.

[wet wraith]

im talking about the gear score to rarity

[tribal cloak]

yes because barb is very balenced now

[low helm]

no more min maxers buff when facing low gear players

[keen wren]

i was using that as an argument for why the playerbase may not always be right about the direction the development of a game should take. and you called that a strawman argument. i think that is just a logical conlusion

[tribal spindle]

WTB PULVERIZING PRAYEr

[delicate yew]

"no more min max" bro r u playing the same game

[tribal cloak]

chat we are in copper

[wet wraith]

this makes it way worse tho tf

[low helm]

barb works better in teams now and playing around with diff comps to find good comps is live right now

[delicate yew]

bro barb was already OG team comp meta and was still 100% viable..

[vocal turtle]

i got banned for 12 days for teaming in norms is this normal ?

[heady ridge]

lemme find you in GC while I'm on barb please god

[tribal cloak]

you rage baiting right it was fine before?

[agile rock]

you are stupid lol

[woven void]

sdf mom shoulda s w a l l o w e d

[wet wraith]

also the barb thing is dumb

[manic hill]

the playerbase may not be right but thats the whole thing, they should be taking into account all of the suggestions, not just what streamers say, but thats not up to us thats up to the devs. they get to pick and choose who they listen to, so us having an opinion about the update wether its good or a bad update doesnt matter. in that case theres no point for them to ever use player feedback in the first place, might as well just pick and choose 3 people whos ideas they like

[delicate yew]

Wally ur either rage baiting or gonna eat your words when u get one shot in norms now ;/

[fiery fossil]

SO a barb with bardiche just one shot me full pdr fighter

[delicate yew]

^

[upper mist]

No

[karmic pumice]

yeah that didn't happen pal

[fiery fossil]

I can clip it just happend

[tribal cloak]

SDF vison🙏

[wet wraith]

fair and balanced

[delicate yew]

reckless attack savage barb could already one shot before this just made it more viable gear wise how r u guys so lost

[keen wren]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[woven void]

barb with bardiche and reckless 1 shot anyone rn

[delicate yew]

SDF decision making so lost cause its based on the mentality of u guys holy

[prime crypt]

Those timmies can’t see past their nose don’t mind them

[low helm]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[delicate yew]

W ragebait

[lapis nymph]

What’s different with nightmare troll

[pliant tiger]

barb perk guide?

[distant flare]

wally is king baiter today

[bitter citrus]

well you made up hypothetical players and gave them all hypothetical motives and actions. I think the exact opposite. The most hardcore players are smart and understand the game lives and dies on new players. They would want nothing more than noob friendly features.

[keen wren]

preach

[heady ridge]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇧 🇺 🇷 🇳 🔥 🔥

[woven void]

he does a extra ground slam really easy to dodge

[open maple]

whos excited to face full kits of crafted gear in purple hr?

[quick ermine]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇧 🇺 🇷 🇳 🔥 🔥

[slow salmon]

LOL THEY NERFED ROGUE HAHAHAHAHA

[civic veldt]

Last message and idk I hope sdf sees this on some slim chance. For the first time I am putting the game down for a while, and I truly loved your game. You need to be more in touch with your player base, I understand this is still early access but some of this is truly unacceptable. "Lets test MS on all gear" is the equivalent of adding a chopper gunner killstreak or some shit. It just does not belong in the game. Do you know why games like osrs that are 25 years old continue to thrive? Because they are so in tune with their playerbase. Create a polling system, SOMETHING because ya'll are just making the WORST decisions and it is severely hurting your game. You JUST did twitch drops which boosted your player count for what? To show them THIS version of the game are you serious?? You got passed the lawsuit shit by some miracle, you're now on steam, don't fuckin ruin it.

[quick ermine]

Not just nerfed gutted

[low helm]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[modern vessel]

Well deserved for rogues

[woven void]

rogue nerf is fine still one of the highest dps barb buff is the issue

[slow salmon]

I told everyone that every single patch there has to be a nerf for a rogue and huge buffs for classes that are already broken. It wouldn't be a patch if the guy who patches didnt buff his favorite character and nerf what he never learns to fight

[trim glacier]

Preach

[scenic wren]

the nerf doesn't do much, because rogue scales on true anyway

[distant flare]

rogue still has true. wizard got its weapons all nerfed too

[woven void]

yeah it wasnt much of a nerf imo

[quick ermine]

Exactly people love to complain about the dps when we are literally 2-3 hits from any class lmao unless we drop a gk on a vigor kit they just suck

[heady ridge]

They've already gone and done that, multiple times. This game is like an abusive relationship, we want it to work but it just wont. I'm done beating my wife IM.

[midnight salmon]

why is there a 2 days timer on the religion and what happens when it hits 0?

[slow salmon]

Short sword Rogue was already super strong this patch anyways so all this does is push those who liked stilleto and kris into short sword. Its going to get worse for the player base because rogues will 3 shot instead of 4-5 shot you.

[distant flare]

comparatively that made it out okay

[halcyon lily]

Lol this game will be dead in year from these terrible updates. These devs should start sending out applications to other projects.

[winged herald]

this game is such fucking dogsh1t. im getting hit by a barb for 85% hp in Commons lobby he has a gray bardiche. this game is truly and honestly so bad. it should be so good, but the combat makes no fuck1ng sense and feels so bad every single fuck1ng game. fukc you again today iron mace

[keen wren]

Yes I made that up to make a point. The direction taken with patch 69 would not have been taken so badly had it been released at an appropriate moment, in an appropriate way.

Is it fair to say that the most active part of the playerbase also cares the most about the contents of their stash?

Is it then, also fair to say that if you release a patch mid-wipe which significantly degrades the value of the contents of their stash, it would likely result in a lot of anger and resentment from the community?

The fact that it degrades the value of existing stashes does not necessarily mean that the changes are bad. but it does mean that the community will react saying that the patch is bad.

And to clarify this example is intended to function as a historic example of why changes may be received worse by experienced/existing players, versus new players

[elder arch]

Wait so for druid does 50% less spell power bonus nerf heals as well? Or just dmg

[quick ermine]

You are a fluff ball for saying it’s not a nerf when it nerfed all our daggers damage and the only perk that makes our daggers do damage lmao

[mossy adder]

SDF don't listen to the haters new gear brackets are perfect

[quick ermine]

Also trash

[oak topaz]

Gear brackets?

[warm echo]

Can Bards still spam their music spells?

[left fiber]

are rapiers worth using now?

[mossy adder]

@quick ermine aww wah wah someone gonna cry because of people "minmaxing blues" or whatever nonsense. People are gonna minmax wherever the line is drawn. At least now it's simple and straightforward for new players.

[warm echo]

what does sdf mean

[steel briar]

What are the best barb perks?

[low helm]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[keen wren]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[oak topaz]

He's a Developer working on the game

[open maple]

cant wait to face fully crafted purple kits in 224 HR

[vocal turtle]

@quick ermine do you know anything about ban durations for first offenders ? because i got banned in norms for q sniping and i thought it that was bannable only in HR

[mossy adder]

224 HR doesn't exist bub

[quick ermine]

You’re broke irl and In game since you be playing the lower “gear bracket” lobbies

[open maple]

now its like 400 lmao

[lapis nymph]

How much could a rat pendant with 180 luck cost

[quick ermine]

Q sniping that’s so funny they banned you for that lmao it’s probably only gonna be a day or two

[keen wren]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[vocal turtle]

12 days....

[static frost]

Organic teaming in normals is fine, que sniping to team is not

[quick ermine]

Wtf they barely give cheaters a week ban and gave you 12 days for Q sniping another reason this game is made for nerds lmao I’m sorry that happened man try and text one of the wardens on here and see if it’s possible to appeal

[rustic socket]

whens fighter gona get nerfed? oh right never. devs are too busy smoking crack and buffing classes that dont need it

[vocal turtle]

yeah ig i was playing against a very pissed off dev ig XD

[quick ermine]

Don’t forget nerfing classes that don’t need it and your on the money

[bitter citrus]

yea that's all fair. I was more picking apart the made up people. Just thought it was funny because first thing that popped into my head was what hardcore players is he talking about. solid factual reference points on this one though. much better... although tanking the economy with religion the past 2 wipes is a bit sus

[marsh acorn]

i WAS ALREADY A VANQUISHER ON 4x CHARACTERS AND I WAKE UP TODAY AND YOU WANT ME TO REGRIND THEM ALL TO 2600 NOW??? TF U SMOKING SDF???

[winged herald]

this game is truly dogsh1t. i dont know how you can fuck up this golden opportunity to make the greatest game of the last 20 years but iron mace somehow you never fail

[feral patrol]

strange take maybe longsword with a slight nerf... i think arming sword and buckler need a buff.. cleric was way more crazy b4 the nerf

[quick ermine]

Its because sdf got the game man hopefully he sells it to a different developer that actually cares for the game lol

[keen wren]

Yeah there is no denying they could have done that better. but I want to be understanding considering everything they are dealing with and the size of their team

[sage basalt]

arming sword vs falcion guys.

[rustic socket]

150+ hp, 75% pdr, move speed with new update able to be 315+ very easily, can use any weapon (i.e. bows is the big issue i have), and i know lantern shield isnt exclusive to fighter but it needs a nerf

[static frost]

I'd take falchion if at or around 30% action speed. It swings super fast and hits like a truck. Lower action speed, arming

[ashen geyser]

any configs for fps to make the game look like shit?

[spring trellis]

serious question @glad thunder do yall even care about your own game anymore? Or do yall want it to die at this point....

[modest estuary]

what is chronicles of the cursed crown just pulled it off a table in norms

[bitter citrus]

i mean we all out here short staffed and dealing with stuff. I can send them a free membership to the club if they want. i'm just playing though. i just get on here patch days to see the circus

[ionic trellis]

wtf can u send a pic ive wanted to know what it is @modest estuary

[quick ermine]

Nah nerf rogue f it right lmao hit the nail on the head a good fighter can merk any class

[prisma lava]

All casters are COOKED

[mossy adder]

Lantern shield got nerfed literally like 4 hours ago

[ionic trellis]

lantern shield aint bad still just have 15-20 PP and your chillin

[keen wren]

I think after all this time they have still retained a sizeable playerbase. My hope is that they will go for a big hype 1.0 release that sends the playercount into the stratosphere, if at least for a moment.

[modest estuary]

yea i got u

[ionic trellis]

nah ur chillin i just looked it up i didnt know theyre selling

[balmy cedar]

How do you beat Barb + Druid combo right now? They seem really broken.

[ionic trellis]

ive seen it for a year plus now never knew what it was

[modest estuary]

bru

[static frost]

Ranger fighter should do fairly well against it as long as your ranger can hit their shots on the druid

[balmy cedar]

@static frost Wont the barb just chase down and kill the fighter instantly?

[static frost]

Breakthrough negates savage roar completely

[proven mango]

who's idea was it to add all these barb buff

[cedar dagger]

GOLDEN KEY PRICES????

[tropic cloak]

can you disable adventure results?

[proven mango]

they need to be fired, publicly stoned, and burned at the stake

[ivory tulip]

wait so does blood exchange no longer heal?

[prisma lava]

bro they're at 2k right now. Tf is wrong with this economy

[tropic cloak]

it gives 15% action speed

[balmy ridge]

religion caused this

[gilded ether]

Sorcerer will have healing in the future? Or it will make him too much op?

[ivory tulip]

doesnt heal when you hit stuff anymore though?

[rapid ridge]

Too light tbh. Toothpicks under nails

[uneven sage]

what happening whit keys and chest ?

[proven mango]

legend. this guy gets it

[ivory tulip]

doesnt that just make it a shittier war sacrifice?

[desert orchid]

I wont lie chat 0-24gs was better than what we have rn

[mild lily]

can somebody tell me why lantern shield vs longsword is so much better?

[quick ermine]

Sdf is playing barb right now

[bitter citrus]

ahh, they just need to survive and recover from the lawsuit. once they get a budget back up they'll be fine.

[versed spoke]

sdf i think barb needs a buff its not nearly enough

[true trench]

druids damage scaling is broken you do less damage now with 100% scale then you did with 75% scale

[oak topaz]

Nah he just killed F2P really

[cloud topaz]

is wyvern fixed?

[quick ermine]

Good

[gilded ether]

Do you guys think sorcerer will have healing in the future? Or it will make him too much op?

[low helm]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[rapid ridge]

What was the lawsuit over

[bitter citrus]

long story

[tropic cloak]

stolen models or smh

[tall girder]

Is sdf trolling us chat

[keen wren]

do you think they will fix it?

[quick ermine]

Please let the lawsuit put them out of their misery

[oak topaz]

Kite them

[rapid ridge]

Please let the lawsuit put them out of our misery

[quick ermine]

Fair

[vocal vine]

does luck actually have a cap?

[oak topaz]

No it'll get worse for f2p from this point.
Rn f2p player can't pvp with better than rare gear

[bitter citrus]

i mean if it was then they already would be. you need to post the penalty money up first if you repeal or at least have a financial backer do it. at least here in the states

[low helm]

u guys are so miserable u cant even quit a game u hate

[cloud topaz]

whats the best class rn

[rapid ridge]

It's 500 isn't it

[feral patrol]

i aint vrsd that combo yet since patch.. but if a barb gets treed u cant kite lol

[tropic cloak]

same as tarkov

[quick ermine]

Love the game hate the dev buddy get it right nerd

[neat pasture]

Unable to connect to server, anyone else

[rapid ridge]

I haven't actually played in over a week lol been playing rivals

[vocal vine]

i have no clue

[tropic cloak]

sorcerer i think

[low helm]

so the devs created something u like and u hate them for it???

[quick ermine]

You must be slow

[cloud topaz]

sorc i thought they nerfed caster

[rustic socket]

my bad og didnt see that. didnt contend with any other part of my statement though lmao

[versed spoke]

sdf i think barb buffs werent enough might need more

[keen wren]

For what reason? They cant use market?

[low helm]

u must be unhinged

[rapid ridge]

The devs created something we liked*
Then they ruined it.

[vocal vine]

this. still getting kited by bow/book users with max movespeed with weapons out.

[quick ermine]

Duh doesn’t change the fact that you keep grilled cheeses in your pocket sir

[rapid ridge]

Lmao what

[low helm]

1 not everyone hates it. 2 u can always step away. game has a 10 year plan some maybe come back in a couple years

[quick ermine]

Look up Shane Gillis grilled cheeses in pocket lol you’ll have a good laugh

[balmy cedar]

Yeah, Barbs are overtuned as all hell right now. This is unplayable.

[rapid ridge]

Wildest lie heard sofar

[low helm]

what makes u think everyone hates it? theres 19k people playing right now

[versed spoke]

it needs gigbuffs maybe savage can heal barb to full hp when used

[tropic cloak]

why killing bosses takes like 5/10min while i see people do it in 1min?

[quick ermine]

10 year plan is wild for a game that hasn’t had a increase in players in almost a year and has been at a stalemate

[desert orchid]

gg gold keys tanked 400 gold in 5 seconds

ok it just tanked another 200 gold

[versed spoke]

axe specilization needs to be 100 damage increase not 3 so we can be more in line with sdf vision

[winged herald]

game is so fucking bad

[low helm]

stalemate is good especially for a game that is still being developed

[quick ermine]

lol you’re a coper that’s for sure grilled cheese pocket boy

[upper mist]

Whered you get that cheese danny!?

[low helm]

they sell cosmetics and bundles. theyre making bread lmao

[quick ermine]

When did I say they weren’t making money of course there making money lil guy that’s the point of idk developing a game lmao

[hoary shuttle]

yes yes yes a million times yes

[balmy cedar]

Will Warlock Spell Predation eat a barbarians rage buffs?

[quick ermine]

No you will get barracked

[low helm]

so why was the 10 year plan a crazy thought to you when they have 18-20k playing daily and theyre making bread

[oak topaz]

Reread my msg.
Tf

[balmy cedar]

Ah fuck

[tall pagoda]

can i go into arena without ssf gear and not lose it?

[keen wren]

which one

[quick ermine]

They don’t have that daily tho it’s literally patch day that’s when it’s the highest players lol bro go make another grilled cheese your getting delusional and I’m tired of trying to teach a slow man

[oak topaz]

Nvm keep spamming sdf w msg bro hahahhahahahaha

[near dagger]

yes

[keen wren]

okay lil bro. this one is for you

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[pale marten]

Who developed this game? A group of dwarves with Down syndrome? Who would think it was right to buff druids? It's like facing a fucking tiger in real life as a skunk.

[low helm]

okay so 10 year plan is how many patch days? sounds like the game will continue to gain patch players and sell and make bread for 10 years

[keen wren]

i honestly hope that SDF doesnt need to work another day in his life after this

[oak topaz]

Tf is buff.
It's a nerf

[quick ermine]

Bro your a coper like I said you can watch your girl cheat on you and prolly would try and justify why you should still be with her lol

[vocal vine]

savage doesnt heal so im not sure what your talking about

[low helm]

you resulting to accusations and insults shows everything i need to know

[versed spoke]

but it should cause he yells maybe it can steal hp from enemies

[quick ermine]

Lmao

[vocal vine]

nah barb just needs to move max ms with maul out. then we are gaming.

[low helm]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[keen wren]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[balmy cedar]

I'm calling rubbish. Barbarians are running at mach fuck right now.

[versed spoke]

no he needs more buffs thats not enough

[tropic cloak]

and +50% action speed with two handed weapons

[lone wyvern]

did anyone else lose the kits they had equipped and a bunch of stuff in their stashes?

[quick ermine]

I agree with you what the heck man

[vocal vine]

nah just give barb movespeed and ill be happy

[versed spoke]

make it so barb when he hits u with maul u go flying and hit the wall for extra damage

[nova ginkgo]

Why do red names get to be in arena

[quick ermine]

You want segregation ?

[nova ginkgo]

i dont wanna be on a team with somone who tks so yes

[broken gate]

does anyone know how to fix leathersmith crafting section? im at 150rep but still wont show spectral coin bag, cant craft it..

[quick ermine]

You’re racist that’s it

[slow rune]

Fkn racists

[vocal vine]

because we are also in the game?

[slim aurora]

Is arena still not minted ?

[nova ginkgo]

red names means you did something

[quick ermine]

Like touched you funny cause your racist

[rugged breach]

99% of people with red names are just from friends who downvote eachother lol

[feral patrol]

whats diary of the toz?

[floral hedge]

are people loading upo the game and missing items?? like gear etc?

[pale marten]

REVIVE DUNGEONBORNE THIS IS SINKING TOO

[near dagger]

you can pickpocket from stashes now

[vocal vine]

no it doesnt. people can downvote you for any reason.

[soft karma]

❤️ PIGGY IS THIS U?

[quick ermine]

Yea I have everyone I play with downvote me cause I’m part of the sith

I’m like darth Vader but instead of trying to take the empire I touch racists in spots they don’t wanna be touched

[vocal vine]

<@&988703997378584596>

[keen wren]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[slow rune]

The Devs areg ay

[quick ermine]

Calling for backup aye? Well I’ll touch them too

[keen wren]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[quick ermine]

And Glock 23s are way better then Glock 20s next they patch they should add glocks that only rangers can use

[mint marsh]

@keen wren stop spamming here. You can Post it in #the-tavern

[keen wren]

roger

[median holly]

I know the rogue who did it

[quick ermine]

Good job warden

[low helm]

man the Devs were cooking with this one. W iron mace

[vocal vine]

40 short and weak is not as strong as full 10mm. good try though.

[keen wren]

the playercount increase seems to reflect the overall sentiment. GJ ironmace and SDF

[quick ermine]

10mm won’t even hit me with how inaccurate it is my 40 going through somebodies eyeball

[opal fox]

what are the new religeon rewards?

[vocal vine]

If you cant hit thats an issue not an issme.

[low helm]

nerf and buff

[quick ermine]

Butt stuff rewards

[opal fox]

im assuming their the same rewards no matter which you pick?

[median holly]

[quick ermine]

Yea Wally and maestro def are bad at the game and play barb

[sacred wagon]

anyone else having issue completing tasks?says Im full?

[vocal vine]

2274 and i play barb. But im also bad at the game.

[vocal scroll]

They don't know what they are doing, they buffed smites scaling ratio with the rest of the casters last patch and its been cancer ever since, the casters getting 1 to 1 is fair, but smite is a free 10 dmg, they treat it just like a zap when it should have 50% or lower scaling. Plus it scales with true mag, so if you go full true phs with +4 true mag from a unique helm, its very silly how much you can do with a "healer" class. Not to mention blunt mastery giving 10% for free meanwhile a class like barb gets the same percent but only while being a glass cannon, but cleric is the most tanky class rn with the 30% pdr ability. The pdr should be like 10%, 30% is ridiculous, and the blunt mastery should be around 5%, you can get positive phs power with little investment and no downside which leads to cleric stat checking every class up close. A lot of noobs play cleric but the only way to consistently kill a good, built cleric is with ranger, other ranged classes don't do enough damage.

[low helm]

this guy is super unhinged lmao

[keen wren]

i wont deny this

[quick ermine]

I’ll play with you when I’m off work we will shit on the Wally’s and maestros just cause they are pocket grilled cheesers

[low helm]

low cd spell got higher cd and high cd spells got lowered cd

[sharp belfry]

its nerfed xdd

[quick ermine]

See at least maestro is honest your just a coper

[tribal spindle]

any1 have PULVERIZING PRAYER for sale??

[low helm]

u sound like an unhinged european or a drunk american. which one is it

[vapid herald]

does warlord spawn in pve or do you have to summon him?

[keen wren]

both?

[static frost]

You don't need to summon any bosses in pve/normals

[prime panther]

Chat been at work all day, patch notes long, is it a w or L patch

[low helm]

lmao definetly something

[quick ermine]

American lol but don’t drink or smoke just state facts that a coper like you don’t like to hear lol

[keen wren]

damn son if u aint drinkin you better start

[low helm]

okay drunk american got it lol

[quick ermine]

Are you a bootlicking lib by chance ?

[wet wraith]

major L

[lone wyvern]

anyone else lose a bunch of stuff this update?

[vapid herald]

not my question

[prime panther]

Darn

[jolly flame]

anyone wanna trio up for arena?

[low helm]

no wonder hes wilding in here. dudes stone cold sober

[static frost]

Yes he spawns, sorry only answered half

[quick ermine]

Like I said coper going back and fourth about me being drunk and now saying I should drink cause I’m sober lmao you are so funny man

[vapid herald]

ok ty, tried 8 times to find him and nothin

[keen wren]

probably another of them energy vampires the matrix is sending on us

[low helm]

they hate to see us winning thats for sure

[quick ermine]

Exactly lol

[keen wren]

yall are going to have to come up with something because i got nothing

[low helm]

Finally peace at last

[keen wren]

the forces of evil have been expelled

[frozen pagoda]

why are sorcerers t1 spells on 7sec cd???

[sterile anvil]

arena is unplayable at anything less than 330ms. how on earth did move speed rolls end up in the game again? why have they not been removed already.

[low helm]

W iron mace. W believers. pack it up boys. we won

[frozen pagoda]

isnt it supposed to be 1x3+3

[vocal vine]

just buy the gear

[frozen pagoda]

how in the fuck did they manage to round up 6 to 7?

[low helm]

oh nvm they showed up

[keen wren]

[sterile anvil]

yeah haven't been grinding this wipe because its been trash from the start, dont have the gold to buy the most expensive gear.

[open maple]

just ran wizard for the first time in squire, is the class only good if you run gear? felt super weak

[vocal vine]

you can buy gear for arena and pve mode means you shouldnt be broke

[sterile anvil]

i know, its still 10k for a competitive pair of boots. move speed rolls have no reason being in the game like this, its incredibly stupid to do this again

[tribal spindle]

WTB PULVERIZING PRAYER 10X SK PM ME

[tulip socket]

🇧 🇺 🇫 🇫 🇩 🇷 🇺 ℹ️ 🇩 🇲 🇴 🇷 🇪 🇸 🇩 🇫

[vocal vine]

10k? bro its like 1.5k just got check out lightfoot boots.

[sterile anvil]

"just buy it" is not an argument, i haven't been grinding this wipe and im not gonna start now its been complete garbage all the way through

[quick ermine]

There’s two of you that’s all majority vote wins trash patch

[sterile anvil]

0.1% move speed is 1.5k

[low helm]

begone vampire

[quick ermine]

Just get good at the game nerd

[vocal vine]

you can add rolls yourself to an item. and if your broke then get temp items till you can afford bis timmy.

[slim aurora]

is arena unminted ?

[sterile anvil]

yeah gemming move speed is not viable, rolls are way too low, thats why move speed gear is insanely expensive

[low helm]

u can zero to hero hr and come up with half a kit and then buy the rest

[vocal vine]

2274 barb main prior to patch. if im the slowest fucking classs in the game until just a few hours ago catching people you can too bud.

[sterile anvil]

yeah thats kind of the issue, barb at 330 ms should never happen

[vocal vine]

why not?

[balmy cedar]

Nah man, catching people as the barb is where the skill comes in. No one can beat a barb once they get in melee.

[vocal vine]

longsword lantern shield can. tank double jump rogue can.

[sterile anvil]

because that makes them incredibly over tuned and entirely eliminates the only counter play to tank classes?

[balmy cedar]

Get good and don't hit the long sword.

[polar stag]

why are GKS and SKS going doing can anyone tell me?

[vocal vine]

lol telling me to get good when barbs can actually catch people now. Learn to space timmy.

[balmy cedar]

There's no spacing a barb right now.

[sterile anvil]

are you mentally deficient?

[vocal vine]

sure there is. stay greater than 6m and shoot him repeatedly.

[delicate yew]

Bro im 237 hp with barb in norms rn with 6 true phys and it only cost 1.2k (313 move speed btw)

[balmy cedar]

Ungeared barbs are running at 110%-115% movement speed. You cannot outrun that.

[quick ermine]

Barb is broken it’ll get nerfed when sdf stops playing it lol

[turbid hill]

Anyone know how the damage curve works with longbow? The difference between 15 str and lets say 30

[low helm]

is this with or without shout?

[vocal vine]

in low elo there might be people unable to out run that. However for those of us who actually have a functioning keyboard there are rangers and casters with weapon out at 330. Check our Thelorr using surv bow in dungeon and using mostly purples. arena kit able to do that with recurve timmy.

[pliant tiger]

just killed a goon fighting boss 😭

[balmy cedar]

That's with shout I think.

[stoic shadow]

was bear nerfed?

[low helm]

that shouts on a timer, then barb is back to slow

[pliant tiger]

panther was buffed and bear was nerfed a teeny bit

[quick ermine]

Pete I would love to hear what you have to say about all this

[iron lava]

YEAH BARBS NOT OP BTW 4Head

[vocal vine]

People complaining the class in melee is good in melee now. wild.

[reef kettle]

so does faithfulness add divine damage to ALL attacks or only boost the divine damage of attacks that already have divine damage

[balmy cedar]

I just can't get away from them right now even with my weapons away, they're on you so damn quick now. It's just an oppressive Meta, I can tell you it's bad because every lobby is being dominated by barbarians right now.

[oak topaz]

How many of you guys getting server disconnected abnormally?

[quick ermine]

Barb n barber

[stoic shadow]

advice on panther pvp

[keen wren]

🇱 🇪 🇹 🙏 🇸 🇩 🇫 🇨 🇴 🇴 🇰 🙏

[balmy cedar]

It happens from time to time especially if you leave the menu's up. It shouldn't happen to you in matches though.

[oak topaz]

All cleric magical dmg is Devine magical dmg

[iron lava]

they stick on you now wtf are you on about

[low helm]

if u get within shout distance yeah

[vocal vine]

179th barb at 2274. i dont think barbs are over running the lobbies i think yall just need to get better at the game.

[pliant tiger]

dont play panther but if your gona do it anyways save dash for reset build agil and strength abuse your shitty hixbox

[reef kettle]

but melee dmg doesnt count unless you activate smite?

[oak topaz]

I saw youtubers getting it too.
It happens too much after patch like after every match i restart

[stoic shadow]

so bear it is

[pliant tiger]

bear is kited too easily i wouldnt play bear unless you got them trapped

[pastel yoke]

new patch thoughts ??

[oak topaz]

As i said.
Magical dmg.
Smite is magical dmg so yes

[waxen tide]

still getting 3 tapped by rogues, great patch

[reef kettle]

alr thanks :D

[balmy cedar]

Are they kitted? I got jumped and killed by two rogues earlier but it took them about 6 stabs to kill me in cloth.

[lunar rock]

panther got nerfed as hell. only got a second dash but the dmg curve is trash now

[prime crypt]

Give it to me straight. Is the new HR queue ass or nah? Haven’t tried yet

[pliant tiger]

ok

[low helm]

id much rather be forced to fight the most geared barb than to be forced to fight the most geard rogue

[quick ermine]

That’s cause your really bad that’s all

[fringe mason]

barbs gonna be so fucking dumb, 330MS no matter what, savage roar OP ASF

[balmy cedar]

Yeah, Rogues with a ton of true damage on them can still kill you quick. Just remember they're gambling a very expensive kit when they do so.

[keen wren]

fax

[vocal vine]

4real. oh no hes walking torwards me! vs landmine like how do people even think barb is strong.

[gloomy plover]

Bro. Three wizards. In arena

[pliant tiger]

longsword is a thing

[low helm]

they are stronger today thats for sure. but rogue is ahead by miles

[vocal vine]

barb still doesnt have effective ranged dmg. until barb gets a bow they will be low on the totem pole and only 5 barbs in warlord prove my point.

[mossy ridge]

dude i might just uninstall this POS ass game i was in pve mode and lost connection mid raid as the patch was announced and lost my whole fucking found in raid BIS cleric kit. i log in to my cleric naked as a mole rat.

[balmy cedar]

Barb doesn't need ranged damage right now, they have an unstoppable cling right now.

[quick ermine]

People dying to landmine rogues is so funny like how do you die to that

[low helm]

yeah fr. rogue can shoot u with rupture bolts and kite u to half health easily

[pliant tiger]

exactly

[vocal vine]

they do need a bow. badly. there is a reason fighter has close to 30 warlords and barb has 5.

[keen wren]

you never die to rogue landmine? how?

[balmy cedar]

Barb has no warlords because it was trash before this last patch. They needed a buff.
This is too much of a buff.

[low helm]

hes the landmine rogue lol

[pliant tiger]

barb is not broken at all

[vocal vine]

fighter is still better. in almost every way.

[balmy cedar]

Go fire up the game and play this patch. It doesn't look like you have.

[low helm]

if fighter didnt have a bow they could probably still go toe to toe with barbs

[vocal vine]

longsword lantern shield can.

[low helm]

yeah so how is barb op again lol

[rapid ravine]

what were we smoking when we buffed bardiche and made it an axe

[vocal vine]

im tired of getting shot 30x times im lockpicking on rogue in arena to chill out bud.

[quick ermine]

Becuase I double jump and hit them more then they hit me pretty simple when they can only hit my feet lol weak point and cutthroat

[pliant tiger]

sure buddy 💔

[acoustic lark]

i like the loot changes for the dungeon but not sure why they kept pve at epic losers just be farming that shit

[quick ermine]

I only really die to druids but if you are bad just say that twin it’s good

[stoic shadow]

so what for damage? spear?

[vocal vine]

bro pve mode is sooooo good. should buff it to drop legendaries.

[balmy cedar]

Mate, hit the the rogue with a hamstring axe. One is all it takes.

[quick ermine]

Exactly lol

[pliant tiger]

panther can still be broken rn

[stoic shadow]

agility?

[vocal vine]

ya im lockpicking on rogue. my rogue is like 1400 in luck gear but i be finding 1k+ items every other game.

[mystic dagger]

I'm trying to learn how to kill the cave troll as barbarian. I understand most of its attacks and watched some videos but I believe they don't show one part. He attack me and I dodge by going to the left but sometimes he does a follow up attack in light speed (even before he finishes the animation of the first attack) and 1 shots me. What should I do agains that

[pliant tiger]

not broken i meant panther can still be viable

[reef kettle]

then people would complain a bout balancing :/

[vocal vine]

balancing what? farming simulator?

[keen wren]

💀

[quick ermine]

I mean it’s pretty simple lol I know it blows your mind cause you die to them every time lmao

[keen wren]

im so happy to be talking to the one person that never dies to rogue landmine. its an honor

[quick ermine]

There’s so many people that don’t die to a landmine rogues lmaoo some people that have played the game for more than one or two seasons have game sense lmaoo

[balmy cedar]

Landmine rogues are less common in 2's and 3's. It's pretty rare for me to run into one and die to them.

[keen wren]

lmaoo yeah lol lmaooo

[reef kettle]

whats the point of pvping when your broke

[quick ermine]

Bro acts like a rogue with less then 20percent pdr and 130 health is invincible tells me all I need to know about your skill level

[vocal vine]

you dont understand the game its iaght

[lyric adder]

to make money

[keen wren]

ok bud. it sounds like you are playing the one class that is immune to rogue landmine

[quick ermine]

😭😂

[tidal ridge]

anyone know how to disable the new stats screen at the end of each game?

[viscid meteor]

I have like 700 hours and never once been caught and killed by rogue landmine

[keen wren]

lies

[quick ermine]

It’s not hard when your not bad lmao

[quick ermine]

You play barb and can’t kill a landmine rogue is crazy you two tap them or sometimes even one tap with reckless lmao

[grave cave]

I wish, it's annoying

[viscid meteor]

Literally tho

[keen wren]

propaganda. i play mage btw

[reef kettle]

i wish it at least had actually useful stats

[true thicket]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow remove druid. dumbest character, literally ruins the game when someone just flys at u as a chicken and starts nawing at ur ankles and there is nothing u can do

[viscid meteor]

That’s even worse then why are you getting that close to them?

[keen wren]

its a landmine bro what do u mean

[viscid meteor]

Yeah and you’re being baited like it’s nothing obviously 😂

[quick ermine]

You said earlier that you play barb and now you play mage lmao and it’s even worse you play mage cause a direct fireball will instantly kill a rogue

[keen wren]

why you gotta do me like that

[spark vapor]

Just dropping by to say thanks for breaking the game again and throwing all the work away.

[lavish cliff]

Cool, with one update every class besides Barb became obsolete. Great balancing

[viscid meteor]

Because it’s true especially if you’re a mage you should be trying to get them to push you tf 😂😂

[keen wren]

nah bro you assumed that. i agreed with your statement that i suck. it has nothing to do with playing barb, which was the other part of your statement

[reef kettle]

but what about cleric :[

[vocal vine]

You dont know how to space nor build. This is your problem not a problem with barb.

[quick ermine]

I bet you run through every door and corner withought trying to rogue check it lol

[lavish cliff]

Yeah, "hurrrdurrr just stack 330ms you noob", brilliant argument. The balancing is immaculate.

[snow grotto]

why did gold keys drop in price so much anyone actually know?

[tidal ridge]

religion release

[keen wren]

i bet you dont play wiz

[quick ermine]

Def a skill issue not a rogue is too good issue lmao

[reef kettle]

whys there always drama in this channel :/

[spark vapor]

They broke the economy as usual with religions but at the beginning of wipe ruining the game until it wipee again

[grave cave]

sad game for sad people lol

[rapid lava]

so isnt this like the 100000th time they buff and revert barb weapons? so more movespeed for barb with the perk buff IM is so cooked

[keen wren]

why you in here then

[quick ermine]

My wiz is level 50 I play all classes kid have since torrent days lmao and if you want I’m home in thirty and can show you lmao

[balmy cedar]

If you get paranoid and wait 10 - 15 seconds when you suspect there's a rogue about. Keep an eye out for corpses or signs there are other players.

[frail widget]

This is so wrong it’s crazy

[mystic dagger]

I would remove movement speed stat from the game and make it same for all except abilites and balance the game around it. it fcking stupid

[grave cave]

because I'm a sad gamer obviously

[keen wren]

ok fair

[rapid lava]

fr no reason i should be kitted by a ranger with bow out and still at max ms

[quick ermine]

What do rogues stack mdr now cause last I check if I get hit by a direct fireball not one trying to do splash damage im almost no hp or dead lmao

[keen wren]

youre a rogue main

[quick ermine]

Duh

[frail widget]

It takes 2-3 direct hits to kill a rogue

[keen wren]

so its all propaganda. ofcourse you never get landmined, you ARE The landmine

[quick ermine]

No sir it doesn’t 2 at most sir

[balmy cedar]

Rogues got hit pretty hard with the last nerf. I think they're probbably fine but it might take a few days for the balalnce to shake out. Lets go back to complaining about Barbs.

[shut raptor]

troll boss removed from adventure mode yea?

[quick ermine]

Again play double jump weak point cutthroat but your slow so you don’t retain information ig

[scenic citrus]

Druids with the double escape now, what a way to go

[fallen stirrup]

Did they fix the gear score bug yet?

[keen wren]

yeah lets resort to personal attacks so i can feel like i won the argument hurr durr

[viscid meteor]

Was it? I don’t believe they removed any of the bosses from anything

[frail widget]

Landing even one direct is pretty much impossible if the rogue is half decent. Even more so if you get landmined. You’ll be dead before you can cast the spell

[shut raptor]

none of the areas in adv mode rnj

[prime crypt]

Yeah I’m done

[bold sequoia]

hi

[quick ermine]

Holy hell this is sad I didn’t know so many people still die to landmine rogues lol

[umbral path]

GAME IS CRASHING SO MUCH

[spark vapor]

With so much extraction game coming out and knowing that religion would do that I don't understand the truth, I think they love losing player base.

[viscid meteor]

That’s wild I hope that wasn’t intentional

[keen wren]

well since youre playing rogue, it sounds like a skill issue on your end

failure to landmine

[vocal vine]

there is a solution to the problem you are facing you just choose not to use it.

[bold sequoia]

I'm new at the game anyone wanna come play ?

[quick ermine]

For what I’m fine like I said I have used the same kit for the last week lmao

[reef kettle]

damn yall are still dieing?

[balmy cedar]

I mean up until yesterday I wasn't winning my fights against landmine rogues. They were a bit strong when they had additional weapon damage on. You really just have to play cautiously though so they don't get the jump on you.

[keen wren]

this guy gets it

[quick ermine]

Just play cautiously you said it lmao

[balmy cedar]

I mean that really is the trick. They have ~15 seconds in stealth. Slam a door in their face and they just have to stew in it.

[quick ermine]

This guy runs through doorways and gets obliterated by a rat of course he’s gonna cry

[keen wren]

hey now, thats not very nice, is it?

[balmy cedar]

Yeah lets all be civil. This forum is for complaining about barbs and barbs only!

[keen wren]

Barb and barber

[quick ermine]

It’s hard to be nice when I have said the same thing to you in 20 different fonts and you are crying but yes barbs are a bit over tuned like I said once sdf stops playing barb he will nerf it don’t worry

[balmy cedar]

Somone has to be the loot pinata.

[sick fjord]

Is Error:24 still going on? Haven’t played since this morning.

[quick ermine]

Exactly thanks maestro

[vocal vine]

barb isnt overtuned

[quick ermine]

Oh is that so ?

[reef kettle]

i love when sdf ads useless features and random patches instead of actually fixing his game

[balmy cedar]

Barb is so rediculously overtuned. They're dominating right now to the point where I had to just stop playing.

[keen wren]

🇼💬🇵 🇦 🇹 🇨 🇭💬 🇼 🇻 🇮 🇸 🇮 🇴 🇳🇸 🇩 🇫🔥 🔥🇬 🇴 🇦 🇹🔥

[spark vapor]

The worst thing is that religions not only adds nothing but breaks the game every time it is added I do not understand how knowing that they do the same.

[quick ermine]

Didn’t a warden already tell you to stop posting that ? <@&988703997378584596>

[grave cave]

anyone else have the bug with casters where the cursor is off in some random corner when you press Q/E? instead of the middle?

[keen wren]

damn. honest mistake. are you gonna rat me out?

[quick ermine]

Yup 😁

[reef kettle]

yes. yes he is

[keen wren]

chat, am i cooked?

[quick ermine]

You have no chat, no one wants to watch someone who dies to landmine

[umbral path]

GAME CRASHING WHENEVER U OPEN DISCORD

[low helm]

the energy vamps cant stop us

[reef kettle]

dark and darker players when someone disagrees with them

[vocal vine]

yup fighter still does what barb does but better. barb just has a fighting chance now.

[keen wren]

hell yeah brother, we will protect this flat earth from the forces of evil once and for all

[quick ermine]

I guess if that’s how you see it. It is what it is

[hardy hornet]

Anyone else not hearing footsteps anymore? Im getting snuck up on by barbs and plate fighters

[calm hill]

lol savage road slowing ms by 30 is not a fighting chance its broken

[balmy cedar]

Honestly right now barb is just better than fighter. The barb heals quicker, does more damage and is tankier with their shouts up. They're also faster than a sprinting fighter by far.

[low helm]

yes and protect the BOYS and GIRLS of this flat earth

[umbral path]

unless its 3s with a good one who can dictate space and land shots

[vocal vine]

ranged is better. More effective hp with pdr and second wind. sprint and second wind are better movement abilities. weapons that are complained about constantly such as ANYTHING since weapon mastery is a thing. Fighters do it better 100 percent.

[balmy cedar]

You can't space a barb with the latest patch. They're moving way too quickly right now, have you played in the last few hours?

[quick ermine]

I agree I don’t like fighters with bows they should just have crossbows

[vocal vine]

even if they only had xbows im taking the xbow over frannies with the same dmg as torch.

[quick ermine]

I mean frannys hurt if you have a multitude of them they just don’t go too far

[vocal vine]

if i hit you 10 times sure. bows 2-3 shot people. im taking the bow.

[glass sequoia]

can you get skull key from rare lobbies?

[keen wren]

[quick ermine]

You guys should play duos I feel like that would be funny to watch lmaoo

[neat timber]

an1 beat the new cave troll?

[keen wren]

ngl i think youre onto something

[quick ermine]

And would make it double loot piñatas for us

[steel bluff]

L sdf L iron mace

[low helm]

what class do u play

[fathom hatch]

what is cyclops precious mirror used for?

[quaint oasis]

Giving to me

[torn fiber]

anyone else notgetting their stuff back from goblin merchant PVE adventure mode?

[still cypress]

dead game

[quick ermine]

Any and all little buddy but my main is rogue

[keen wren]

he plays the class that shall not be named. i just inquired him about it

[low helm]

damn i bet all energy vamps play that class

[signal nymph]

Is error 24 fixed or can you still not que with blues ?

[quick ermine]

I really have like wizard and ranger though as well have good kits for all three

[low helm]

figures ur a rogue main

[vocal vine]

i love how as soon as you name your class your called op. like saying cleric druid op is fine or that movement speed ranged meta is op is fine but how are people saying barb op?

[balmy cedar]

Ranger is a ton of fun.

[keen wren]

who wouldve thunk

[viscid meteor]

Savage roar with rage finna be fire 😎

[quick ermine]

lol you two ride me harder than a stripper 😂😂

[tribal spindle]

WTB PULVERIZING PRAYER 13 SK PM ME

[quick ermine]

Super fun man

[low helm]

who replied to who first in the beg of our history?

[prime crypt]

He is going to drive the game and company into the ground all by himself, and terry is just gonna sit back and watch it

[quick ermine]

Who keeps replying to me whenever I don’t mention them at all? Oh yea that’s right you and your bf lol

[low helm]

mhm sure. u replied to us first and just stuck around being a fanBOY

[stoic shadow]

Panther scales with agility?

[hexed willow]

what merchant gives frostlight riveteds?what merchant gives frostlight riveteds?what merchant gives frostlight riveteds?what merchant gives frostlight riveteds?what merchant gives frostlight riveteds?what merchant gives frostlight riveteds?

[worn kernel]

frostlight riveted merchant

[quick ermine]

Like I said a coper and a copier just repeating everything I’m saying to you but back in a different font lol begone drider

[thorny fossil]

"Uh, I actually think that weapons are op because they can kill me"

[signal nymph]

The one that sells riveted gloves gloves

[worn kernel]

packgod humble him 😂😂

[low helm]

lol whatever u say... rogue main

[keen wren]

mr "i never get caught by rogue landmine" happens to play rogue. how convenient LOL

[spark vapor]

People complain about the classes without realizing that they ruined the economy a few days after the wipe, now until the next wipe there will be no economy, no game xdd and that is not fixed with a patch, that's it, it's done...

[quick ermine]

Who’s packed would love to have seen that

[low helm]

"how do yall get killed by the landmine rogue"- The landmine rogue

[pliant nimbus]

It's done guys, it's all over, every patch the game is one patch away from DEATH!!!! Gg boys, was a good run.

[quaint raptor]

goodjob on making normals have no gearscore i love having highroller in normals

[keen wren]

[worn kernel]

yall over here hating on rogues i h8 rangers

[low helm]

some story just write themselves lmao

[vocal vine]

yes getting 30 pdr at a click of a button while maintaining max ms or druid flying across map faster than any class to silence peoiple isnt overpowered. my bad.

[keen wren]

i couldnt have dreamt of such a quality story

[quick ermine]

Again and again still yapping about me lol but again I play double jump weakpoint cutthroat lmao

[merry scroll]

SDF IS TYPING…

[keen wren]

i play rogue double jump and dont get caught by landmine rogues

[low helm]

sittin in corners i bet waiting for a poor victim to ambush

[quick ermine]

How do you run ambush with no hide ?

[alpine wing]

how do you calculate the amount you heal from TM?

[low helm]

sitting in corners duh lmao

[quick ermine]

I’m curious cause that’s not how ambush works lol

[keen wren]

you crouchwalk until you hear someone, you hide in the dark, you wait, footsteps get louder, wait, door opens, wait, backstab enemies = free kills

[low helm]

im not using the perk name im saying u literally ambush people lmao

[quick ermine]

Oh right you wanna play arena and I can kill you real quick in a 1v1 ?

[prime crypt]

Player count is reflecting these decisions for real. It’s gonna be so hard to bring the people back that already left, and I’m just about there myself

[low helm]

okay ready queue now

[keen wren]

player count has only gone up today. stay mad

[quick ermine]

Almost home 10-15 mins max and we can play on the same team and I’ll kill ya

[spark vapor]

Sad because they do a really good patch, they only had to nerf the cleric and the druid.

[low helm]

lol yeah cause u need to know where im at to kill me

[keen wren]

typical

[distant flare]

no way bro is still grind chat, damn both of yall

[quick ermine]

I thought the problem was me ambushing someone ?

[keen wren]

bruh you start within melee distance what do you mean

[quick ermine]

How am I gonna ambush you if you know where I’m at lmaoo

[low helm]

lol are u slow. how is a teamfight 1v1 accurate to dungeon fights?

[vocal vine]

bro these arena maps are something else. im in goblin caves 4 square like wtf.

[gilded lantern]

why did they nerf sorc and buff barb and druid

[keen wren]

based

[quick ermine]

Bro your coping still when I gave you the out of 1v1. Me the fairest way possible lol

[vocal vine]

because barb was a loot pinata and sorc had way to much dmg. druid buffs idk wtf sdf thinking