game-discussion

[urban owl]

Did you buy or grind them

[hexed zephyr]

But I have 4 chests 8 bags and 4 SKS right now, so I can buy as many as I wanted. Half grinded half bought them.

@urban owl

[urban owl]

Which boss did you grind

[rotund violet]

Imagine being this upset at a video game

[static rose]

@rotund violet 330 MS BE LIKE

[hexed zephyr]

Wyvern like 50 times before we noticed it was bugged, was doing lich warlord and ghost king. Pulled the new zweihander unique and sold for 12 sk

[rotund violet]

Brainrot response not registered, try again

[urban owl]

Bloodthirst really is that expensive huh

[hexed zephyr]

All my 4 chests though came from ice caves pile. And yes bloodthirst is insanely busted and expensive rn

Couldn't think of the fucking name

[urban owl]

Has Pete gotten his hands on bloodthirst

[urban owl]

The wyvern piles?

[hexed zephyr]

Not yet I don't think. He's gotten fulgor and shit multiple times lol

[urban owl]

Yeah last time I saw him pulling 2 fulgor in one stream, insanely lucky and unlucky at the same time

[hexed zephyr]

1 was wyvern pile 3 were normal ice caves pile. 1 in normals 2 in 0-224 HR and 1 on wyvern pile 225+

[cedar dove]

So morning star out ranges longsword, makes perfect sense

[urban owl]

Hope that man gets his artifact

[hexed zephyr]

Emphasis on his

[urban owl]

People say bloodthirst is literally artifact for Pete because he loves zwei so much

[hexed zephyr]

Shits actually so busted rn I used it in PvE and it's insane

Legit better than LAD, just hit players or mobs and you're full health

[urban owl]

It’s 20% of the damage dealt right

[hexed zephyr]

Also 30 bleed with 1.0 scaling

Yes to players and mobs!!

[urban owl]

Crazy

[hexed zephyr]

I didn't realize it worked on mobs too it's actually insane

[urban owl]

Should I do bossing in HR, I’ve seen multiple people complain about the current bossing state

[worn kernel]

whats easiest way to get ruby silver

[cedar dove]

doesnt matter what boss you do, rats Always

[urban owl]

That’s why I don’t wanna boss rn

[sly adder]

Fix to rubber banding and teleporting backwards? On Ethernet no vpn

[worn kernel]

?

[cedar dove]

rush hell

[urban owl]

There’s a module in ruins that always has Ruby silver

[fallow basin]

Does +magic healing on gear scale with magic power?

[worn kernel]

which one

[urban owl]

Square, you gotta activate the hidden lever on one of the statues hand and it’ll lower the platform

[worn kernel]

ok thx twin 🫶

[desert orchid]

U play arena to pvp, i play arena to get loot out fast and money
we are not the same

[abstract apex]

Why is bossing so ass now.

[desert orchid]

💸

[urban owl]

The vision

[abstract apex]

Loot is dookie for the cost.

[vocal vine]

im getting real consistent money from arena

[chrome fog]

u type like my friend @shrewd quartz

[abstract apex]

You mean using proper sentences?

[chrome fog]

yea the pretentious grammar and capitalization as if your career is on the line

[granite relic]

is it normal i cant connect to server rn

[dense bay]

ironmace has to be lowering drop rates of quest items each week theres just no way

[pliant tiger]

can we please nerf cleric

[median shell]

no

[pliant tiger]

jus smite bruh

[grave gull]

FIX SPIDERS JESUS CHRIST

[dense pawn]

There is a bug that double jump completely cancels pushback from fireballs or sorcerer spells. I died in HR 3 times in a row to rogues abusing this. If I can't push them back with windblast or lightning vortex there is nothing else I can do once they are next to me.

Oh and windblast is still buggy since release. In close quarters (enemies doesn't even need to be right in your face) sometimes it just fails to work.

I have made my bug reports, do the same if you ran into these issues.

[abstract apex]

remove sorc/warlock/druid/bard only way to fix this.

[dense pawn]

this is the appropriate channel for trolling: https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/989065417161048084

[abstract apex]

100% serious.

[desert orchid]

100% serious is time to uninstall I guess since they aint going anywhere

[frail widget]

Remove every class except Druid

[desert orchid]

only skillfull classes should thrive like druid and wiz

🔥

[frail widget]

Wizard is too low skill they go too

[desert orchid]

😔 rip wiz

[pliant tiger]

why tf is a wizard allowed to use a crossbow

[tame glen]

my friend got banned for 3 days for no reason just cause of a error in dark and darker, can one of the devs just go unban him and anyone else effected ??

[merry crater]

yo same

[coral thistle]

Its funny and ignite crossbow looks cool

[pliant tiger]

yea but that jus dosent make sense

[opaque tulip]

The wizard has a gun

[coral thistle]

PLEASE tell me you didn’t get dumpstered by a crossbow wiz 🙏

[pliant tiger]

i didnt but it jus dont make sense to me bruh

[coral thistle]

Idk its for fun let em keep it

[dull hazel]

Dark and darker is dead.

[pliant tiger]

then stop sayin shi in the discord bruh

[severe minnow]

why are you here then bro, leave 🙂

[pliant tiger]

exactly bruh

[dull hazel]

because i miss when the game was goated

[tame glen]

how do i contact the devs ???

[dull hazel]

@glad thunder Hello, pleasant greetings.

Can we make it so barbarian can use halberd, like Jou’Nar the barbarian with the halberd?

[frail widget]

Bro thinks sdf wants to hear his opinion

[chrome grail]

Since PVE has been added, you think devs would add more to it for non PvPers? Ex: more intricate boss mechanics similar to games like XIV or Lost Ark?

[coral thistle]

Play fighter

[static frost]

Pve/pvp doesn't matter, we all want more content

[dull hazel]

Okay then why did sdf post this video called Jou Nar the barbarian with the halberd

[chrome grail]

Fair point ☝️ I'ma returning player since they added pve which ig technically is considered new content. What content are you hoping to see in the future?

[rain ice]

giant worm no longer in adventure mode ruins?

[chrome grail]

And did they state why they added the new game mode?

[static frost]

More points of interest would be a good start

[queen night]

what does cocatrice merchant do

[vast saffron]

It causes pain

[chrome grail]

Hell yea more bosses, or insane rooms of crazy mobs all of which have different objectives (keys, loot, etc )

[static frost]

Basically to give new players a chance to learn without being W keyd. Which was needed

[mystic scarab]

Game right now is basicly trash because of rangers ?

[lavish shoal]

guys ive got a really good idea what if we made bosses impossible to do and make bosses drop nothing when they are done

[vapid epoch]

does anyone have access to arc raiders?

[chrome grail]

I was saying earlier, bosses should have more mechs vs what they do now. Minus the no drops lol

[amber frigate]

the wyvern dropping named items anyone know?

[static frost]

Still not fixed

[amber frigate]

rip

[neon haven]

did i wasted money on legendary status buying it on Epic...and now it wont conenct to server, can't even get to the page with my migration code

[tacit prawn]

When they buffing rogues ?

[vital turret]

why is tranquility so bad on bard

[spare steppe]

Wish theyd fix this menu bug its so dumb

[reef condor]

goblin caves duos has been empty for like 10 games in a row is something up

high roller 2^

[pliant tiger]

does axe perk work with bardiche

[arctic laurel]

pretty sure they delisted it from epic, you can migrate your account to abother platform though

[neon haven]

@arctic laurel i tried the guide on the website, but when i transfer the game file downloaded from blacksmith to epic, the game still wont connect to the server, and i cant see my migration code

[pseudo shell]

Contact support on discord

[inner token]

god i love PvE... if you can't kill random bards that loot your pile after YOU kill the cyclops, just oneshot them with a mimic :P
best moment of my whole d&d "career" >:3

[neon haven]

@pseudo shell Sorry, little new to discord, how would i do that?

[arctic laurel]

Yeah contact support on discord https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1064421075464761414

[pseudo shell]

Follows instructions on this channel https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1064421075464761414

[bold shadow]

is it better to get Lycan or Lizardman if you play Plate fighter mostly

or is it not big enough of a difference to really matter

[pliant tiger]

does axe perk work with bardiche

[glad horizon]

Continous lobbies BLOW

[coral thistle]

Not anymore I don’t believe.

They reclassified it to a “Polearm” like the Halberd and Spear(?)

[pliant tiger]

??

[solemn lily]

Is there a map of all the locations somewhere?

[glad horizon]

yes, Google, dark and darker interactive map

[coral thistle]

They may have also wanted to know

[rapid ridge]

it isnt updated and they arent working on it

[glad horizon]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N is the closest you will get to a updated map, you could also make one

[molten bone]

SINCE THE DAY 1 OF WYPE WYVERN DON'T DROP ARTEFACT AND STILL NOT DROPPING CAN WE GET A FIX ?

[wise olive]

Omg i earned money buy legendary status?

[rapid ridge]

thats what im talking about. they have a discord. they arent working on it lol.
That map hasnt been updated in a very long time

[glad horizon]

sdf working on buffing druid, nerfing rest of classes

[molten bone]

I would more say buff cleric

[glad horizon]

ok, Thanks, but that's the best we got so ill use it

[glossy sigil]

I have the same problem

[rapid ridge]

if you must. it doesnt show new modules though so its kinda useless if you need those

[glad horizon]

it does for me, i guess im built diff, wait what modules is it missing

[rapid ridge]

yeah you built diff aight gg

[glad horizon]

which is it missing? being serious, i got most my quests done with it

[rapid ridge]

none of the new quests need the new modules. there are several for ruins, crypt, and inferno but i dont know what they are called in the game. go look yourself

[fair gale]

when isdruid finally actually nerfed or removed from the game?

[glad horizon]

i did look, tis why i ask, and i finished all my quests with it

[rapid ridge]

unsure if gob cave got anything but i doubt it. and ice isnt even randomized so it hasnt changed.

[fleet surge]

It’s been nerfed cleric is op rn

2 tap with cleric is nuts

[fair gale]

yea sure druid just still wins tho xD

cleric to strong... doesnt matter tho cause druid is broken from a design point

[cobalt junco]

Give warlocks kris dagger again

[inner egret]

how do yall feel about non ssf arena being out

[graceful storm]

holy shit the leaver pentaly you get if you leave arena 0.001 ms early is so fucking annoying

[hollow cave]

Do you lose gear in arena if its not made or found by me?

[zinc light]

Is arena going to stay "Items retained after a loss: ALL" or is this temporary?

[inner token]

how does the goblin merchant trade thingy (the gamba) work? is that items used by players, who then died and didn't claim them or are these completely random?

[static frost]

Just random

[pliant tiger]

guys can we make the clerics smite thing scale 5.0

[spark dragon]

anyone help me? just need help wondering what’s the best ap farm and how much u guys usually get each raid

[cerulean stirrup]

Is it posible to lose your kit in PvE frost map if you die in the pit?

[spark dragon]

yeah u won’t get it back

[vocal vine]

ranged and ranger but sdf wants this. Back to lock pick rogue to make money.

[cerulean stirrup]

its because of the pit or just PvE in general?

[rich pagoda]

i open every chest in my route (ice caves mainly) kill every mob in my route. all of my routes consist of going to golden/lionhead chests and sub bosses. sub boss AP is kinda my target, and if players get in the way we fight, but never risk the death if its a losing fight. i touch EVERY shrine in route and sometimes step outside of route for shrines that are nearby for the extra 15 AP (pretty sure its 15). on average without going down into the abyss im around 250-300 a run, when i go down and do the same thing, im average around 400-500. i do not hunt for pvp, i do not fight for boss kills. major point is sub boss kills and golden/lionhead chests. i get by fine, at exemplar 3 right now, not grinding like crazy to hit demi as its just gonna happen at some point.

[spark dragon]

i just know my buddy died to the pit in pve and the goblin didn’t give him back his kit lol

[rich pagoda]

the pit solely

[spark dragon]

alright thanks because i’m only getting 300ish which isn’t bad but i would like to get around where u are at (500ish per raid) thanks for the help!!

[rich pagoda]

imagine the goblin goes in to retrieve your gear himself, if your body is not recoverable (the pit) then there is nothing to recover

[hidden mulch]

Where do ppl farm Boss Spawn items ? They seem to cost a lot, not sure they're worth it even

[rich pagoda]

other than the pit goblin always gets your stuff in pve

[rich pagoda]

certain items are on certain mob drop tables, might have to look up what mobs drop those specific items you are reffering to

[spark dragon]

also, is playing duo and trio take longer because the ap gets divided because of assist? and how many games did u take for u to hit ur rank

[hidden mulch]

Ty

[rich pagoda]

i only do my AP grind in solo, so i can't speak for the other game modes. and how many games.... honestly doesnt feel like but maybe 20-30 games without diying feels about right in my head, but i never counted

[vocal vine]

when we getting barb buffs barb is such a joke right now

[rich pagoda]

ummm.... do not let history repeat itself, barb is fine. its like the one class you that when it gets buffed, the rest of the classes become shit grade

learn to use your frans

[spark dragon]

i couldn’t stand buff barb we can’t allow that again

[rich pagoda]

foreal

no class stands a good chance against some of the past barbs, the game dies fast during barb meta

been here long enough to see it happen multiple times

[vocal vine]

ya looking at warlords fighter ranger wiz is overbearing and barb sucks

give barbs bow or actually make them tanky or something cuz im getting 3 tapped by recurves this shit is terrible

[covert yew]

question, whats the difference between a grimsmile ring that gives 10 luck base stat, or another ring thats giving +47 luck? im not too sure but wouldnt the 47 luck just be better, or is the additional stat calculated differently from base stats?

[tame glen]

Dear devs pls fix your game, getting banned for nothing iis not right. I payed for legendary status

[vocal vine]

im running circles around barbs in luck gear on rogue like cmon

[rich pagoda]

the games META sucks, not barbarian. you must be new

[pliant tiger]

cleric is broken that sucks

[merry urchin]

Getting your ap randomly reset sucks ass

[vocal vine]

2k hours and 2400 rated last season close to 2k right now. Barb is terrible

[pliant tiger]

jus to confrim axe perks work on bardiche?

[calm copper]

no

[pliant tiger]

but i saw a reddit post that says it does

[smoky ridge]

You are wrong. The game was played by quite a lot of adults who did not want to waste time on useless grinding, but played 0-24. People have jobs and personal lives! And I definitely don’t want to waste time on grinding to go to 124 or high roll. I know at least 4 people who stopped playing because 124 is a very boring mode. Now you have to collect something, constantly go to this stinking market. You probably haven’t been playing the game for long. I’m fucked in this game, it’s like I came to work after work, I have to farm, I have to trade, I have to collect. And when will it be fun? Oh yeah, when I spend a couple of hours grinding and trading, I can go to the dungeon with friends a couple of times. The most fun mode was just 0-24, it was always fun there. Without anything extra. They even made the arena boring, to play the arena, you need to spend half of the wipe time looking for gear to play the arena. You were told correctly, look in the search, and you will see that there are many people who want 0-24!

[vocal vine]

i love 124 people bring me jewelry on my cleric.

for whatever reason they just keep wanting to feed me money

[merry helm]

so i do not lose any item after lose on arena right?

[pliant tiger]

can a mod tell me if axe perks work on bardiche?
cause somebody said yes somebody said no reddit says yes but item description says no

[ashen hearth]

had anyone even seen a single windigo hoof? I've prob killed like 30 off these things not a single one

[modern saddle]

more melee warlock perks pls ironmace

[surreal arch]

Try it out on figurine in the Ruins, you might get answer faster.

[pliant tiger]

u right

[surreal arch]

By basic logic, Bardiche is "polearm" so it is not "axe" but not sure if the DaD actually have "Polearm" tier of weapons

[pliant tiger]

devs needa clear ts up :(

[vocal vine]

ITS NOT AN AXE

[polar tendon]

only ONE

[broken dome]

dude in my arena team named "JUSTHERETOLOOT" who was, in fact, only looting

[pliant tiger]

yea but it looks exactly like a axe

[polar tendon]

kill and take the timeout like a king amongst men

[vocal vine]

yup until this games ranged meta is chilled out i think ima just loot up and build up a ranger kit from arena.

[wheat jolt]

Yo can someone link me or explain to me where on the wiki I can see which bosses drop which uniques , I can’t find it anywhere

[vale falcon]

I've been playing since the start and this is the least fun I've had

[vocal vine]

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[main garden]

I can give you a small loan but Im charging 15% interest daily compounded

How big of a loan we talkin

I can help you refinance your loans

[hearty crystal]

Does anybody like the ghost king scream change it feels pretty unfair that he just has a move that guaranteed does a good chunk of your health?

[steep dew]

its like 1k gold

[main garden]

Its meant to be BS, only counterplay is to not do too much DPS so that you can deal with each scream, truly the best way to create skill cielings in unavoidable damage

do you have any character names that can serve as collateral

[graceful storm]

ghost king has been like that since day 1

[main garden]

used to do less though

[vale hatch]

guys im down bad need to take loan for family

[vocal vine]

lots of weirdos in the chat wardens. My feet feel endangered

[karmic escarp]

Guys what is the drop chance for artifact from the room after doing both bosses in goblins?

[hearty crystal]

yeah it really feels like a cheap and dishonest way to make the boss harder

[lament iron]

REMOVE SMITE FROM THE GAME

[vocal vine]

barbs being buffed not ok but rogues being tankier than barbs is just fine. what are people actually thinking.

[feral elbow]

The fact that a rouge can just 4 tap you with poison is ridiculous

[left smelt]

What are the most OP classes in Arena?

[wanton radish]

hi

[rapid ridge]

No

[fervent bronze]

MS meta sucks. Make Arena SSF. Make 124 SSF. Adjust bows in some way to make them less consistent in DPS.

[wanton radish]

fakies 😦

[rapid ridge]

away with you foul creature

[vocal vine]

most warlords are ranger wiz fighter last time i checked

[wanton radish]

what the freak whatd i do

[left smelt]

Is it possible to check some arena leaderboard in game or something?

[vocal vine]

yup

[left smelt]

really? I cannot find it anywhere... just regular HR leaderboards

oh, ok I found it

[vocal vine]

and you did it all by yourself. Good job.

[rapid ridge]

⭐

i wish my frens were online :c

[weak horizon]

should we stack additional move speed or % move speed

[raw torrent]

is kill Lich quest bugged?

[scenic carbon]

Where is the cave troll now?

[cunning crescent]

WHERE IS THE CAVE TROLL???????????

[reef kettle]

ice caves ;)

[rapid ridge]

where's the caveman

[cunning crescent]

It should be in goblin cave irght

[crisp carbon]

Rocks break after 1 tap now in mining? - How'd they change this? Quality of pick or anything matter?

[fallow basin]

Can we just remove rogue from arenas, invis mechanics are so anti fun

[sonic maple]

That's only pve

[crisp carbon]

Perfect, ty

[frosty violet]

Would anyone want to trio with me and my duo? We have been looking for a third for pvp/bossing. We are both flexible on what classes we play, and are right around average skill level. We would all buy our own gear and split gear we earn. DM me if your interested.

[native gust]

best class solo rn?

[tawny knoll]

Wizard!

[native gust]

for solo?

[tawny knoll]

yeah bro its sick

[native gust]

top 3?

[tawny knoll]

wizard, druid and ranger]

[wanton otter]

game needs a lil patch as a treat

[lunar wing]

Not sure if this is the right place to do this, but I feel like a combat log would be super sick

[obtuse orchid]

I just came back to the game after a few years off and I dont seem to have my legendary status even though I set it up in the past with migration

I had originally bought the game a few years back before legendary status was a thing so I'm confused as to why I lost it and all my progress

[wicked fulcrum]

has anyone gotten max rep cockatrice?

[tawny knoll]

worst idea this game could have ngl...

[green roost]

there must be a lot of earless goblins in this game

[green roost]

a combat log is the worst idea this game could have?

[lunar wing]

Yeah wtf lol

[green roost]

i actually agree, having more information about what did damage to you and killed you is actually stupid, it only has downsides. why would i want to know what is doing damage to me??? honestly, combat log would kill this game

[merry urchin]

damn the game feels empty already. i think im alone in this lobby lol

[surreal dove]

Worse than offline pve mode smh

[green roost]

i swear people in some of these community discords im in are just so brainrotted to the extreme

[static frost]

Just record your gameplay and watch it back if you're wondering what killed you

[vocal vine]

about 14k gold in about 5 hours boys

[lunar wing]

I'm brainrotted for giving a suggestion..?

That's a bit of a reach

[green roost]

im not talking about you

[graceful storm]

is a combat log the worst thing this game could have?

[green roost]

if it wasnt clear this was sarcasm

a combat log has zero downsides to being added, only upsides

[surreal dove]

Don't worry it's very clear because having a combat log in the death cam is literally just good QoL lol

[muted verge]

where do we go to ask questions about the game? I need to know if I should ditch my looted arena gear or not

[clear ruin]

i want a Arena 1vs1 So bad they need too add this!

[reef kettle]

you can just ask them here or go to the squire discord

[vocal vine]

just lockpicking arenas is legit good. sdf buff melee combat and i might start trying to climb with barb again

[reef kettle]

the squire discord is the bottom one in links btw

[surreal dove]

That's why I try to place my bets on smaller non-public discords for serious discussions

[green roost]

isnt melee the best option in this game

everything i see is 330 ms melees just running people down and 2 shotting them

[reef kettle]

you payed MONEY for a game you enjoy?????

[vocal vine]

then the ranged missed lol

[hardy moat]

cheaters all of you

[vocal vine]

330 recurve getting caught is funny af

[reef kettle]

f2p players SUFFER in the 124s and pve servers

lowkey rogue makes me wanna blow my brains out but in a good way

[upper mist]

I havent died to a rogue since i swapped to cleric

Ive gotten landmined and won somehow clearly by outplaying them and not cause cleric is strong rn

[vocal vine]

man people sure do get upset at me picking locks during arena.

Not sure why. looting is part of the game.

[hard rock]

@reef kettle what is your pfp

[stuck anchor]

what happened to the game and it requires migration?

[warm sage]

After a defeat in the arena, do you lose all your items?

[stuck anchor]

guys help

guys i cant get in the game

how can i migrate

[weary socket]

is anyone experience insane rubber banding at times

[fathom aspen]

So if you die in PvE Ice Abyss to the void... Does the Goblin recover anything?

[iron current]

Yeah and if u switch class after an arena game you crash, these servers are some of the worst ive ever seen ngl

[sturdy mango]

anyone else just log on and can't do arena because of a teamkill penalty (I haven't been on for like 16 hours)

[iron current]

Someone prolly reported you when u got off and it applied when u got on is my best guess

[spice vigil]

If you die to the void ever no matter the mode everything is lost sadly

[balmy cedar]

Late spawns are such a bad fucking idea, I just spawned half a room away from a barbarian and got absolutely murdered before I even had a chance to defend myself.

[spice vigil]

i'd bug report it

[fathom aspen]

That... is kind of what I figured. Though it makes me really sad 😦

[spice vigil]

Ik it's gotten me too at one point lol

[balmy cedar]

Late spawns aren't a bug though, they're by design?

[fathom aspen]

My kit was over 8k >.< Just trying to teach some new players the game lol

[iron current]

I just think spawning with a half game left kinda sucks, in PvE especially everything is already ran sacked

[balmy cedar]

Yeah, PVE is going to be run through after the first 5 minutes with everything of value taken.

[iron current]

I lost my legendary picaxe cuz of void wyv bs

[timber cipher]

sdf pls drop a patch on balance changes please

[iron current]

Nah he gonna buff druid and nerf cleric again

[balmy cedar]

Cleric hits really really hard right now to be fair.*

[void tulip]

When is this game coming to Xbox ???

[pliant tiger]

failed to connect to server 4th time inna row

is this bs?

[iron current]

Nah classic plastic hammer servers

[pliant tiger]

nvm 5th time in a row

[analog tundra]

anyone else crashing anytime they switch classes?

[iron current]

Been a bug since arena came out

Gotta wait like 3 min or u crash after arena game

[pliant tiger]

6th time in a row

[analog tundra]

I see, thanks 🙂

[iron current]

Lol great game, game of the year even

[inner wasp]

does arena gear have to be found by me?

[pliant tiger]

7th time in a row

[pliant tiger]

its like crack ik its horrible but i cant stop

[iron current]

It tingles my tism I know whatchu mean

[frank walrus]

About how much gold worth should u come out with in a normals match if you're not killin bosses?

[pliant tiger]

now it dosent even say cant connect its just stuck on connecting

[iron current]

Like 600 at least if u get a pile somewhere

[balmy cedar]

Depends on what you do, I usually come out with 600-800g on just a regular run though. If you find something juicy you can come out with more.

[pliant tiger]

made it in after 10+ tries

[fervent bronze]

Bow bow bow bow bow

[frank walrus]

@balmy cedar Thank u both, i haven't found a pile yet, i got the interactive map is that all i need to find it?

[balmy cedar]

The easiest treasure pile is in the maze, especially if you play a rogue with traps and locks. It's free. Check there.

There's anther easy one in the icicle cavern and another one in the 2x2 room in the second layer of the forgotten castle.

I'm litterally looting the maze one right now. The others come ready for a fight though

[fervent bronze]

Bows are a crutch

[pliant tiger]

what stat increases buff duration?

[upper mist]

will

[pliant tiger]

k

[hearty cipher]

hey guys, new player here. I start playing fighter and Im close to lvl 20. Is there a newbie guide I should watch? I have a hard time to get out of the raids. And which class you would recommend for a beginner?

[upper mist]

will is all magic, knowledge is knowing how to use the magic

[fervent bronze]

Bows are too easy

[frosty bear]

how do i file a ban appeal on account that never got played. It wants a character name but i didnt even get the chance to make a character

i dont even know what i did

[scarlet hearth]

they gotta nerf ms no?

[upper mist]

how did an account that never got played get banned? What was the ban reason?

[frosty bear]

it was gonna be my first time playing

[frosty bear]

it just said ETC. i didnt get one

[upper mist]

https://www.darkanddarker.com/home

log in and go to support, try to make a ticket im sorry if this doesnt help but its what i would do in your shoes

[blazing hull]

does anyone keep crashing after arena games when swapping characters

[upper mist]

i personally have not but i have heard many people complaining about it

[blazing cairn]

ID:Lockedinmalice, u just lost and report me for cheating in 124, and said i am a dog, can u show me how i was cheating in 124, show me ur reason, do u have mind

[upper mist]

did they pm you that you are cheating?

[blazing cairn]

ye

just one of them

[tacit tiger]

Lorr just dominated partychip in an epic aura battle

[blazing cairn]

who i killed pm me said: dog why u are cheating in 124, funny

[tacit tiger]

pls stop cheat 124

[blazing cairn]

who will cheat in 124

[half zenith]

party chip doesnt even use cam isnt that auto negative neckbeard aura?

[manic cedar]

where do i find rubysilver ore on adventure? is it only in hell, or are there spots on the surface where it spawns?

[somber vapor]

Every arena match is just wizards and sorcerers max ms

[half zenith]

check wiki map or yt vid, it can spawn on ruins too, but mostly in hell

[vocal vine]

dont forget the rogues and rangers

[somber vapor]

Yeah we need a melee weekend

[half zenith]

my favorite are the 50% pdr melee clerics with 330 with mace out personally

[somber vapor]

And smite 2 tapping you at 150 hp with 50%pdr

Devs definitely play casters

[half zenith]

makes sense that the best healing class in the game is also the best melee class in the game

[subtle heart]

@neat sorrel you down play with me and a friend? druid and bard

[half zenith]

imagine saying you play druid out loud

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[subtle heart]

im new to the game 🙁

[half zenith]

change classes now before you sully your soul permanently

[subtle heart]

but movement

and people being mad

and healing

[half zenith]

if you get used to druid movement first youre gonna hate every other class

[subtle heart]

ruh roh

i gotta figure out how to druid still

[past galleon]

can you fucking fix the leaver penalty bug. so fucking annoying to have to wait 5 min to play again when i didnt leave a match in progress

[subtle heart]

i figured out movement ish, can door 1/3 times ish but working on it but idk how to setup builds or do pvp with it

[viscid meteor]

ive never done arena before do you lose your items if you lose?

[vocal vine]

select arena and go to play screen. if you cant figure it out im sorry im not qualified to help you.

[half zenith]

least toxic dnd player

[viscid meteor]

you couldve just said yes or no i had it pulled up in the map section and hadnt fully selected it but thanks for being toxic

[half zenith]

you dont lose anything rn

[viscid meteor]

thank you for the non toxic response good sir

[half zenith]

dw incels op

[vocal vine]

so tired of seeing the question like do a little research of your own.

[viscid meteor]

incase you didnt notice mr.Toxic timmy youre in the game discussion tab

and the main dark and darker discord aka the best place to get info on the game

[opal spear]

anyone know the chances of getting a cockatrice egg?

[half zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/zerosgifs-gif-20855209

[vocal vine]

about tree fiddy

[delicate minnow]

I miss when we got content.

Same quests every wipe.

[vocal vine]

yes you are in it. you can hit the search function in disc to find your answer instead of being the 1 billionth person to ask.

[half zenith]

true lets all type 20 messages instead of 1 answering it

[modest terrace]

why is the game so laggy

[half zenith]

thatll spam less surely

[viscid meteor]

or i can interact with the community and just ask myself but if you have a problem with people asking questions why even be in here besides to show your ass?

[vocal vine]

doing any work for youself is hard isnt it?

[half zenith]

most loved dnd player

[viscid meteor]

pulling up discord and asking a queestion on the main server is literally the same as pulling up google and typing in the exact question takes the same ammount of time and newsflash google dosent always have the answer considering the amount of trolls there are on reddit and such and i have a much better chance at getting a more accurate answer on a server with consttant active players over the 2 people that post something on it on google

if you dont wanna see people asking questions then make your own server with people that actually like you or stop lurking in the game discussion tab where questions are asked all day every day

farquad lookin ass

[vocal vine]

<@&988703997378584596>

[viscid meteor]

go ahead i knew what i was doing

[cold quail]

Whats wrong with lookin like farquad?! He's a rich midget. And... @vocal vine -> Snitch.

[viscid meteor]

i apologize warden go ahead and punish me but someone had to put the toxic timmy in his place\

[odd nacelle]

Please maintain respect in here <3

[viscid meteor]

yes sir im sorry ❤️

[vocal vine]

I do not accept your apology dont let it happen againl.

[viscid meteor]

if it was directed to you id tag you

[delicate minnow]

Dude is just a troll becaue his life is that boring lol.

[inland agate]

Fix wyvern

[viscid meteor]

i can tell

[wraith osprey]

@vocal vine do you lose your items if you lose in arena?

[half zenith]

incels strike again

[viscid meteor]

@vocal vine do you lose your items if you lose in arena

[viscid meteor]

i like your thought process

[vale pumice]

does shadow touch proc zirkzis eye on a normal falchion? or do you need kuma for it to proc off your weapon and activate the magic needles etc. saw someone doin it but didnt check wether it was a normal falc or not

[vocal vine]

search function full capable of getting your answer bud.

[viscid meteor]

i searched and it said to ask @vocal vine

[odd pasture]

is there a way i can transfer my steam account to blacksmith?

[modest terrace]

how come when i have agro on mobs they never switch to my enemies but when my enemies have agro they switch to me from across the room

[viscid meteor]

its more so transfering blacksmith to steam

[wraith osprey]

I’m starting to think @vocal vine doesn’t know the answer himself

[vocal vine]

thats ok you can stop @ ing me. Like i said if you cant find something im not qualified to help you.

[odd pasture]

so theres no way i can transfer my steam account?

[merry urchin]

im on us west and these lobbies are E M P T Y

[viscid meteor]

i think so long as you have them connected you can load it on their launcher as well but idk how you go about it

[vale pumice]

yep, call that the HR PVE region

[viscid meteor]

im miss server hopping lol

[vale pumice]

can anyone answer my question ab zirks plzzzz

i need to know lol

[bold pier]

330 MS ON EVERYCLASS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND

[uneven zodiac]

can we use bought gear in arena rn and not lose it?

[viscid meteor]

i know nothin about artifacts im sorry lol

[viscid meteor]

yes sir

[tame pawn]

my game freezes everytime i hit another player pls help

[vale pumice]

all G, Ive only ran zirkz as a caster never thought ab getting it to proc off mellee so seein that dude use it was wild

[viscid meteor]

yeah me and my friends havent quite started our HR grind yet but i know thats one of the best ones for caster classes and my friend really wants it lol

[crystal juniper]

i have a question if i die and get rezd by alter of sacrifice and leave without grabbing my stuff does the gobbo merchant still grab my stuff ?(pve)

[viscid meteor]

so long as it isnt Hr yes sir

[polar talon]

DO SOMETHING WITH THE FUCKING PLAYERS U JUST KILLED RESPAWN BACK TO YOU

TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT

[crystal juniper]

okay thank you maybe hes taking longer then usual we were in red dungeon so that might be why

[wraith osprey]

Have you tried not being good enough to get a kill

I find that works for me

[polar talon]

let me ask to you mother in law

[viscid meteor]

yeah if youre in HR you want get your sttuff back otherwise its you gotta wait wait for the entire dungeon to finish to get your stuff back so generally youll be waiting a while with ruins

[viscid meteor]

why in law?

[balmy hamlet]

Why cant we just have gear score back to the way we had it before, i cant even use good gear without being "Gear Dif" the the highest degree in HR.

I dont have the gold to even have a "Fair Fight" anymore this wip

[polar talon]

mom wasnt permitted into the chat

[viscid meteor]

ngl bro i just spam ran ice caves for money grind get to about 8k then use that

[balmy hamlet]

I Shouldnt have to do PvE ice runs to get gold

[viscid meteor]

well its the best way to grind money rn sorry buddy

everyones player hunting in pvp rn cause everyones boss hunting thanks to pve

[pliant tiger]

grind gold by killing people

[balmy hamlet]

Ik but this is just not fun being ran over by people with absurd stats and buff balls of Movement speed that can catch me even when naked

cant even disengage from BiS teams

[polar talon]

0-124 is the best thing that hapened to norms. if u are not happy just go on PVE run

[merry urchin]

0-24 was superior

[vocal vine]

im grinding gold by lockpicking arena boxes and this shit is fire

[delicate minnow]

The devs don't know how to balance stats and it is very clear at this point. 124 is the best place to not have to worry about sweats like that. TBH though, game is dying in less than a year with SDF at the helm.

[balmy hamlet]

124 i atleast get one team kill then its off to reds or blues cus one team is running a meta comp

most of the time its zero or one

[vocal vine]

just use cleric in 124 boys like its free

[viscid meteor]

Or Druid

[vocal vine]

cleric with blue morningstar im wrecking house in 124's

[gritty cipher]

for a pdr health rogue kit do i need 0% mag and phys power bonus?

[gleaming owl]

so i know how to do cave troll and cyclops any recomendations on next boss to learn

[tidal star]

there isa bug when i swap characters. game keeps freezing]

[lapis sigil]

anyone found a fix for the infinite "checking network" problem yet?

[fervent bronze]

Stat and Statter Sucks!

Bring Back Dark and Darker!

[silver charm]

giant worm never spawns :/

[pliant tiger]

can we rename the game to bright and brighter so i can actyually see

[polar talon]

find slim forest module and go on the side u will find a secret undertunnel theres a worm there

[silver charm]

ohh ty

[jagged cape]

@sdf hope all u devs get can cer for this movement speed meta

like slow painful shiz horrible stuff

[fervent bronze]

Oof looks like the meta is making the community worse as a whole, @glad thunder Think we need another patch revert mhmmm

[vocal vine]

druid main telling us how to balance lol

[fervent bronze]

Druid main?

[vocal vine]

go play hide and seek bud

[fervent bronze]

You're grumpy

[paper rampart]

I got banned and it says gold coin at the end, i just started playing

[trail jetty]

did they decreas the chance of troll pelt?

[paper rampart]

Does anyone else have a issue with bans? I cant play any mode now for some reason

[still ibex]

what has highest chance to drop moldy bread?

[static frost]

Pretty sure it's saying you can't bring gold coins in, or coin purses

[paper rampart]

Hey you know what i hope you have a great day 😭

it worked

[eternal estuary]

whats the most broken class for trios rn?

[static frost]

You as well, glad it worked

[viscid meteor]

Cleric druid bard or throw fighter in there

[rain ice]

does giant worm still spawn in adventure mode?

[mild sinew]

so Epic Dotted Gold Bangles just never drop cuz damn I got everything after thsi quest and 0 Dotted

[vocal vine]

some combination of fighter wiz with things like bard or cleric

[ruby ore]

Is wyvern dropping artifacts?

[static frost]

Yes, only on ruins

[languid rapids]

just buy them

[static kestrel]

so how do i unlock more quests ive finsihsed tailors quests both of of the three but is that it?

[restive lion]

how do i get the cockatrice's egg?

[proven yacht]

We need controller support as someone who just lost a finger I'm unable to play with keyboard and mouse

[upper sun]

theres a streamer that plays with a controller

[exotic sluice]

So what are these devs thinking they haven't fixed wyvern not dropping artifacts and troll amd cyclops not dropping mystic gems since the start of the WIPE, come on and now a 2 week long patch that will be full of ranger, sorc and druid buffs are we serious come on guys.

[sharp phoenix]

Is there any reason to be farming frost wyvern right now? seems like none of the loot is worth anything

[broken cove]

can we get an emergency patch for this swap character = crash bug, honestly such a shitty dev team man its always something

[mild sinew]

?? auint no waayyyyy you can buty yhyemmte akj; dfj

[languid rapids]

xd

[vocal vine]

you sure can

[crystal juniper]

never got anything back guess i was unlucky thanks for the help tho < 3

[mild sinew]

are Glimmers expensive?

[raven wigeon]

MAKE ARENA PERMANENT

[vocal vine]

perhaps you should check?

[shy crescent]

was troll loot nerfed?

[mild sinew]

ina game

[indigo hemlock]

so is it a known bug for the game to crash around boss or in boss room

[leaden galleon]

Do not get your kit back dying in the lower levels of forgoten castle?

[leaden galleon]

from goblin

[carmine vigil]

Hr or norms

[leaden galleon]

pve

[carmine vigil]

You gotta wait for the lobby to end

Unless you died to void

[leaden galleon]

friend died from warlord

[carmine vigil]

Gotta wait

[cunning acorn]

guys im thinking in arena do you keep only crafted/looted as before ? or all ? havent played it yet

[tulip pagoda]

all it literally says it in the game

[cunning acorn]

u sure i checked and i dont see shit 😒 but i believe u

[tulip pagoda]

yeah been playing all weekend

[cunning acorn]

oh okok maybe cuz im not ranked yet so i got the "play 10 matches", anyway ty

[severe minnow]

how many teams are in duo lobbies?

[dusty charm]

how do i get the cursed bell

[tribal grove]

Give barbarian a perk for heavy armor mastery, where it gives additional pdr and mdr

[shy crescent]

anyone know anything about troll loot being nerfed? only getting shitty blue gear off 225

[safe moat]

do you lose item after lost in arena if they dont have your name

[shy crescent]

no u keep

[safe moat]

okay

[digital pollen]

Barb has already too many mandatory perks

[tribal grove]

Id sacrifice one for more survivability

[digital pollen]

Iron will, robust, berserk. Flex perk is crush potion chugger and moral boost (for trios.) I guess you could drop the flex perk for the pdr perk

[tribal grove]

Exactly, only reason barbarian needs those is bc surviving fights without them is damn near impossible

[digital pollen]

Yeah I'd argue even moral boost is also necessary in trios/duos to survive.

[tropic axle]

Anyone notice the DND servers bugging out after the update with auto server region

[mild sinew]

so why dont devs just make 3 teams per match in Trios , i do not see any negatives here and we have continuous matchmaking

[steel juniper]

Are the damage perks like two handed, axe damage, axe headshot damage not necessary?

[fervent anvil]

they are. full dmg is best build

[gloomy latch]

I'm going to reiterate this exact comment. WHEN IS THIS BEING ADDRESSED

[potent canopy]

Quality of life improvement: give druid forms an indicator on wheel if it's not able to be used in the current position, highlight green or red or something.

If not going to fix the constant terrain clipping atleast give us the option to see what is available

[digital pollen]

Two hander not necessary but can be ran for flex perk but berserk is all you need. You'll most likely run maul or bardiche

Barb doesn't do insane damage anymore since 2h nerfs were the hardest

[rain ice]

has anyone got a cockatrice egg in adventure mode?

[hexed zephyr]

Developers like @glad thunder are incompetent but we can only hope an I right?

FIX RHE DAMN WYVERN

[mild sinew]

devs just make 3 teams per match in Trios , i do not see any negatives here and we have continuous matchmaking

[mild sinew]

bows arent out yet so, what names does Wyvern drop

[warm warren]

theres a bug with the extra character slot thats on a timer it says its gonna delete my main character in whatever days instead of the extra character

[mild sinew]

call their bluff

[fervent anvil]

it will delete whatever character is in that slot when the timer ends

[dire nymph]

why in the ever loving fuck does my shift just randomly get stuck?

ill be mid pvp tryna put potions on my belt and itll drop them

[fervent anvil]

dont put weird shit in your keyboard and the key wont get stuck

[worn pasture]

where do i get gold

[steady folio]

anyone having framerate issues?

[frail bloom]

is arena found only right now?

[tame violet]

NO

you can bring anything you want into it right now

[steady trail]

Is there any dungeon that drops silver commonly?

[tame violet]

alot of them the best in my opinion is goblin caves for silver

[mild sinew]

logitech k120 baby

[broken cove]

windows has a feature called sticky keys, or you may have some sticky keys... 📸

[twin magnet]

if you lose in arena do you loe your gear? it doesnt really help theres no question button. oh i see it

[worn pasture]

where do i get gold

[worn pasture]

click start on arena and it will tell u, pretty sure u dont lose gear, atleast thats what my status says

[trail canopy]

no

[strong mortar]

oh btw i just noticed that there's squire quests
any1 know if there's any benefits from it or not rly lol (kind of like how doing weapn master's quest gives more weapons / better weapon in squire)

[cedar dove]

And they wonder why this fucking wipe died so fast, with unbeatable clerics and 3 tapping rogues nobody wants to fucking play

[fervent mauve]

ofc you complain about cleric lmfao

have u seen druid like bruh...

[bitter stone]

both are busted rn

[fervent mauve]

druid needs to be deleted

[steel juniper]

Better squire gear

[strong mortar]

wait relaly? someone just told me in #the-tavern that it doesn't give better gears, it's just quest rewards

[kindred lance]

to my knowledge doing squire quests doesnt upgrade the gear but doing armorer quests would upgrade your armor offered by the squire

[viscid meteor]

^^^

[strong mortar]

right, that's what i thought as well, but this is the first time i seen squire had quests so i thought there would be something new / different

[viscid meteor]

you get more gear options and some gear goes to white quality instead of grey

[kindred lance]

i think he gives you some pretty neat quests rewards like legendary weapon armor and jewelry but thats about it

[strong mortar]

r u able to confirm that doing squire gears gives better squire gears because more people are saying that it's not the squire quests that gives better squire gears

[brave umbra]

how is is 2025 and we STILL DONT HAEV A SELL ALL BUTTON AT THE JEWLER DUDE

[dire nymph]

It is not my key, it is the game, my friends run into the problem too, my shift works just fine in every other game lmfao

[fervent mauve]

how is it 2025 and druid is not deleted yet?

[dire nymph]

the devs said he was "balanced" too, yeah 1 shotting someone with 140hp 30% pdr is balanced

[fervent mauve]

my point exactly

[strong mortar]

i wish they had a proper balance team. it was confirmed that they don't

[dire nymph]

I wish they had any fucking semblance of a team

[fervent mauve]

its funny how everyone bashes me for playing cleric but i dont even run meta

[dire nymph]

theyre all over the place

clerics always been good, people are just upset that they can move at max ms

[fervent mauve]

like is 290 movement speed and a Warhammer meta + a heater shield???

[dire nymph]

its understandable though, they shouldnt be more than like 102.5% ms

[dire nymph]

nah fr

[strong mortar]

prob. 'cuz they're boomers and remember the cleric meta (basically they're outdated)

[shut cape]

eu 224 lobbies feel fucking dead past 11pm why cant i queue NA east holy shit

[brave umbra]

seirously though, how the hell de we not have a 'Sell all" at the collector.. makes absolutely 0 sense

[fervent mauve]

its lowkey funny that everyone says im a meta abuser lmfao just look at my kit its obviously not...

[shut cape]

show kit fam

[strong mortar]

they're clearly smarter than u bro, they know everything

[fervent mauve]

alr join vc my boi

tavern table 1 🙂

[dire nymph]

are we allowed to put photos of our kits in here?

[tawny isle]

Anybody else crashing when changing characters?

[warm knot]

its annoying af and unplayable

[fervent anvil]

stop rage quitting arena and it wont happen

[silk onyx]

Is anyone else's game crashing every single time they swap characters?

[silent notch]

ive never raig quit and it happens to me everytime. thassts only reason im on discord rn. cause it crashed

[strong mortar]

i was being sarcastic 🥀 just saying how every game got weirdos complaining or saying random sht that's not even correct. omg your character is broken. is literally 45% wr

[silk onyx]

Its not from quitting arena early, it happens no matter what

[coral thistle]

Hide Rogue is a positive and engaging experience for everyone involved.

[fervent mauve]

ask brian he saw my kit lol its not even close to meta...

[strong mortar]

it's ok. i play weird aaa stuff too 🥀 i've been experimenting with castillion dagger-

[fossil sonnet]

anyone have a resolve for the constant crashes?

[fervent mauve]

ya delete the game?

and never reinstall???

[coral thistle]

The devs don’t clearly. Unless the upcoming patch is all recurring bugfixes again

[dusk grove]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[worthy cradle]

the lag in solos rn is so litttttt im so hypeddddd

first time i actually jusdt dont wanna play outa pure server lag

[dire nymph]

so its not just me? thank god

i cant have a game where I dont lag

and on every other game I dont lag at all

[noble aurora]

is it just me or now when i right click and item it just drops instead of going into my inventory during a run?

[dire nymph]

I was just fucking complaining about this too

some stuck up dude said "maybe dont get shit in your keyboard"

[noble aurora]

i keep dropping everything now and theres no setting to adjust it back

now have to double click, shift + right click and regular right click do the same thing now, for sure a dev mistake i think

[noble aurora]

it just went back to normal haha

[jade wing]

When does HR season end?

[fickle rose]

how do you properly quarterstaff the lich orbs?

[distant comet]

probably a month and a half - two months from now

[mortal ginkgo]

Arena is awful with all the card bought kits revert this shit to self found or crafted its dummb as hell

[unkempt raft]

wdym "properly"? as in avoiding the damage? I heard someone say you can do that with spear, ive yet to try it, but you can definitely block it and "eat some damage" rather than just die

[frosty violet]

Would anyone want to trio with me and my duo? We have been looking for a third for pvp/bossing. We are both flexible on what classes we play, and are right around average skill level. We would all buy our own gear and split gear we earn. Also we are gonna do lich tonight so DM me if your interested.

[wheat finch]

is there a reason i didnt get my gear back from goblin merchant after dying in adventure mode?

[fickle rose]

it takes a WHILE

give it like 20 mins

[wheat finch]

interesting ok, its been at least 15

[queen topaz]

@fickle rose is it guranteed? or does it sometimes not offer it back

[fickle rose]

guranteed

[queen topaz]

nice nice, good to know

[unkempt raft]

Did you guys die to the void?
or even worse:
did you die on one floor and your teammates went down a level and you didnt leave before this happened

[queen topaz]

and is this explicitly for adventure mode id assume?

[unkempt raft]

pve + <124
not hr

if you die by falling into the void you dont get shit back

so, press esc and exit to lobby b4 that happens or its gg gear

[queen topaz]

oh snap def good to know lmao

[unkempt raft]

once the map you died on ends, it takes about 5 minutes tho

[idle pawn]

So who on the dev team thought it was a good idea to let 2 or more of the same class be on the same team at a time? Honestly cause why is that even a thing?

Absolutely a horrid idea. 3 wizards on the same team in arena is so stupid

[limpid flume]

i feel like
you gotta have that mindset that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose

[daring urchin]

what happened to servers?

[flint furnace]

fuck the devs this season and last seaoons were ass

lets throw 30 people in a dungeon, that will build ambient feel

lets make every option to just be an ass to other gamers available

games like this bring out the worst in people, cant fucking find a FUCKING FEATHER

[gritty barn]

NAHHHHH @zinc sparrow I GOT KILLED BY A BLATANT ASF ATTACK SPEED HACKER IN A BIS KIT LAST NIGHT. LIL BRO GOT TEMP BANNED>?!?!?! THE FUCK IS THIS MATE

[vocal turtle]

squire kit phanter half hps geared fighter ?

[still cloud]

Why is rogue even a class? Remove rogue from game

[gritty barn]

I seen a lot of hackers go by in this game, seen oceania solos have 5+ gold farming teamers own solos for 2 weeks straight and not a single thing done about it. But to have the utmost blatant attack / speed hacker get TEMP BANNED. Im uninstalling. 5k hours. pt2 player. this game is a waste of my time

[gritty barn]

homie the fight literally went for like 2 minutes, i came in a few times saucing them, used up a few legendary prot pots to trade some hits, then he just walks up to me and once his within 2 meters of me in panther form i just get hit 20 times in half a second and im dead.

turned on his rage hacks

[quiet lance]

Question for yall because im not 100% sure, is there gear recovery in hr?

[gritty barn]

no

[dire nymph]

as rogue if youre running dagger mastery does having two daggers make it activate twice

[gritty barn]

It used to, unlike sword mastery and rapier mastery, dagger mastery only applies during your attack.

[mint oak]

is there an expectancy date for religions?

[dire nymph]

hopefully no religions

[weak moon]

when are new quest

[umbral urchin]

never

[smoky fjord]

is anyone having the glitchwhere you have to restart the game whenever you swap characters?

[peak tundra]

do we think sdf is gonna buff fighter

[abstract apex]

Like fighter needs buffs

[lethal pine]

can anyone help? the interact with treasure hoard quest on the ice map is not advancing when i hit the pile in the center of the map. Is it supposed to be on the ice abyss map?

[dire nymph]

everyone

[dire nymph]

hell no! fighter is balanced as it is rn

[real plume]

Not being able to swap characters without crashing is getting annoying lol

[dire nymph]

agreed

[real plume]

its been every time for me and everyone ive played with tonight... lol

[carmine vigil]

steam or blacksmith?

[fringe schooner]

Dude Can we have some quality of life changes please!!!!!!
Like auto arranging stash, I got lots of friends not coming back to this game because of these problems

[dire nymph]

nah, but we can have a season pass tho apparently, but no qol updates

Make Game Better ❌ Make Season Pass and milk our players more ✅

[mystic scarab]

it does

[real plume]

Steam

[peak tundra]

how else do u expect a free online game to make money

[umbral tinsel]

It’s unplayable free, that’s how they make money

[mellow ice]

Free game no money required

[near gulch]

if your friends quit the game because their stash organization was ass, then they need to really in all honesty grow up.

[mellow ice]

free game? No! Money required!

[umbral tinsel]

Good luck on your quests without HR especially purple gems

[mellow ice]

Fuck quests. Quests are for try hards.

[raw mason]

You can't blame people for being frustrated with game mechanics that you have to deal with after every match

[near gulch]

I mean, if they really have to hold onto that much garbage then I really dont know what to tell you man. There is no way that have at least 3 stash tabs full of actual valuable gear and not just trash

[umbral tinsel]

The whole player base is tryhards even when they’re awful lol

[mellow ice]

I dunno man. I don’t try very hard. Must be a Druid thing.

[umbral tinsel]

Just a competitive game thing

[mellow ice]

This isn’t a competitive game. Competitive games are balanced. This game is a jank trash game with good social potential and devs that want it to be competitive. They don’t know how to do that though.

It’s still fun though. Sometimes

[tranquil forge]

@wicked fulcrumye i did

hope the cockatrice quest was worth it im capped on rep now

[raw mason]

People hoard when they don't know what is valuable and when you're starting a game with this many different random attributes it can be overwhelming deciding what to get rid of. I'm glad you have no problems with it but there are people who do and quality of life would be a good change gettting new players in.

[dusky oracle]

tru

[clear pendant]

The only game that is balanced and competitive is called chess

[peak tundra]

auto-sort is a nice feature but you should also just be good at managing stash space anyway

[umbral tinsel]

Actually the human brain makes it very unbalanced

[mellow ice]

Yes. That’s valid. I guess I was being a bit hyperbolic. I meant compared to other competitive. No stat checking in chess

[heady mural]

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder it is absolutely unacceptable to have 0 communication with your playerbase for over a week especially as an indie dev team seriously you guys always talk about improving your communication but you have yet to act on that please start being more honest and just talk to your community if it’s just a quick announcement message “we are cooking on an update please be patient” or even if graysun and sdf came into general chats every other day and answered questions that would be amazing

[silver smelt]

This has high probability of happening

Hotfix #85

• The maximum movement speed of fighters and barbarians has been changed from 330 → 350

@glad thunder Don't you dare!!!

[oak cypress]

Does anyone else have an issue with changing characters causing the game to crash?

[versed gulch]

Just found a token of honor. What is it for?

[grim ginkgo]

free money magic

[urban owl]

crafting boss summon / quest item

[blissful violet]

I think there is an alt tab bug so alt gets "pressed" on

[fathom relic]

Hy , whats the rewad on arena fights ?

[narrow carbon]

does anyone know if blunt mastery works on a magic staff, doesn't seem to go up on the stats when equipped

[abstract fiber]

can you complete quests in pve mode ?>

[desert cliff]

sO YOU DONT NEED SELF FOUND GEAR FOR ARENAS THIS SEASON?

[exotic tendon]

Yes

Are golden teeth used in crafting grimmies?

[past summit]

killing banshee is extremely unrewarding in hr, 0 time to loot the pile after running in circles around the boss for half the fight due to invulnerability

learned the boss for 0 reward feels bad

[blissful violet]

nothing, should be tokens at minimum imo

[waxen nebula]

Who is sdf

[vital pagoda]

Not who.. where is sdf??

[odd nacelle]

In my heart

[whole linden]

question, do you lose gear you buy from trade in arenas since it doesnt have your name on it?

[clever spruce]

anyone here really well versed with prices? im trying to get a price on something but i cant figure it out.

[tribal grove]

On his multi year coke binge apparently

[odd nacelle]

Arena now not only ssf
So you can buy items and dont lose them

[inland lantern]

Did livebloom druid got nerfed in the last 3 month?

[fickle rose]

are ultimate gold crowns used for any quests?

[frozen umbra]

I love worms able to go through walls, the floor and never changes agro unless you go invisible. Very fun to deal with, I also like that they can fly.

[royal thistle]

this game is dead its crazy to me that it wipes...every one of these sweat streamers have multiple named weapons lol game needs to have a harder skill bracket and

some type of end game...this game is cooked

[verbal creek]

bro istg on pve i never see no one doing the cyclops, but when im trying to finish the goblin questline, i spawn on a game that is going for 5 minutes alredy, and i spawn on the other side of the map when the cyclops is on the opposite side, and i spent most of the match just clearing rooms for me to see him dead when i get there

got its so fucking annoying

[waxen tide]

any1 else crashing while swapping characters?

[civic sleet]

Hey folks, anyone know where to find Demonfly? Or how it looks??

[verbal creek]

you'll find it at hell on the ruins

they look like some beetles but red

[civic sleet]

Hmm we were in hell yesterday but found nothing like that. Is it the Death Beatle hell version? Also do you know which spider drops Spider silk by any chance? 😄

[noble aurora]

you can find them in the goblin caves usually around those fire traps on the ground

[verbal creek]

its also spills some green stuff from them

[lavish spade]

the amount of cheaters in arena is insane! please make the report system the same as the base game

i can care less about the sad state of the game all i play this for is arena

[worn pasture]

Where do i get gold

[verbal creek]

kill the two bosses on goblin cave then enter the room that require you to kill both bosses

then you'll find gold ores for you to mine

[worn pasture]

where is this additional room

[verbal creek]

you know the room that have a lot of mummys and a ressurection altar

that have two walls with chains on it?

[worn pasture]

no

[verbal creek]

i cant send images here XD

[worn pasture]

do you know the name of the module?

[verbal creek]

ill search

cave altar is the name

[dark grail]

Okay let me be completely stinkler. Why does my game keep crashing when I switch characters?! Is this happening to anybody else??

[waxen tide]

me too

[worn pasture]

ty

[verbal creek]

it also have some crazy good loot, and if you are playing on high roller 225, a chance of having a artefact

[misty quail]

i keep getting a leaver penalty for leaving match after its over, do we test anything ironmace? do we know how to test our game!!?!?

[verbal creek]

do the goblin merchant have a higher chance of giving you higher quality items if you have more affinity?

[nimble path]

how about wizard now?

[limpid flume]

goblin skin when

[compact siren]

1character 1marketplace!!

[fervent mauve]

Huh?

[toxic sedge]

do you know if they plan to do a 1vs1 arena mode ?

[errant moat]

why is the least played bracket back in last season "124" the only bracket you can play in normals now? people are jsut abusing it and clearing the dungeon way faster than a normal lobby and everyone is ending up in team fights vs 4 teams

[limpid flume]

how do i change regions again?

[mighty mortar]

https://youtu.be/OT48zVua_Mc

[quaint raptor]

buff the quirky skills and perks of all classes. like who uses dark offering???

[last thunder]

somehow ironmace thinks every two seasons 124 as smallst gs is a great idea, only to turn it into <24 1 patch later
its just cancerous to run into 5 druids every game while questing with 35 agi 35 str and 5 4 truedmg

[errant moat]

yep everyone is just abusing it by bring bis 124 gear in 330 movespeed with wep out

[misty kettle]

why best method to spend gold coin in early game?

[subtle heart]

how do i see how much will/add magic/true magic affects my poison ticks as rogue ?

[gusty sierra]

Isnt people getting inside the SAME lobby AFTER dying supposed to be blocked?!!!!!

[limpid flume]

was it?
this was a thing a few months ago when i played

[stable echo]

They actually gutted it so hard with the buff duration nerfs 😭

[quaint raptor]

also if u guys are nerfing magic power then buff the crystal sword base damage

might as well make rogues have more will since poison now does half damage from this scaling

[sinful gull]

When do you think the spider silk crafts will drop?

[quaint raptor]

probably next wipe

or when sdf stops maining druid

sdf mained fighter for one patch and then nerfed every single barbarian weapon by 10 weapon damage

[velvet river]

fix pre-rating arena so you can actually play with your damn friends

[gusty sierra]

i killed a guy and then bout 1min later i was figting him again, in the same room even

[fallen glade]

What is the point in playing 124's if you end up in 224 or 224+ lobbies after taking red? What is the point in playing 224+ if all you get is people in complete bis and wall cheats, How the heck can you HR boss if you have 3 teams waiting at every door? We can fight 3 back to back poor teams in the first level ruins to only get hit by a 4th and 5th team that are actually geared that joined lobby 5 minutes after it started and have fresh inventories, maps cleared, and are ready to roll us. What is the point in playing PVE when you build a kit, die learning a boss and goblin merchant bugs and you lose the kit? Game is broken and sad.

[main lintel]

Devs. Since solo self found has been deleted from the game your servers are completely devoid of life except the pve servers which are just full of gold sellers farming uninterrupted 247... bring back solo self found permanently... the market has no place ina game like this except for cheats and gold sellers

[fickle rose]

What’s the best way to counter cleric smite dp

[plain folio]

run

[sinful gull]

Rogue with weakpoint/cutthroat.. use daggers+perks and build hp/vig and a little pdr(20%+)

[limber jolt]

It's full of cheater's, In the arena many use the ranger.

And unfortunately all this grinding to find yourself fighting against Op and unbalanced classes (like the Warrior in full plate with 330ms) makes no sense, plus add that many use cheats.

[toxic sedge]

bonk wizard, druid is good also

[fallen glade]

Its so sad bro like i loved this game and i want to enjoy it but when i look at what is supposed to be the peak, its not what someone should expect

[limber jolt]

Yes unfortunately it sucks

[limber jolt]

And this is also the reason why many people buy Gold, which is ridiculous in my opinion.

[toxic sedge]

personally, I'm always thinking in this way "in what game mode I will play if I was a cheater", answer is Arena and 224+ so I literally boycott these mods in game. Sad but in everygame you have a honey pot mode where most of cheaters stick to

good news is that other game modes are more clean

[limber jolt]

Yes HR makes no sense, you only find cheaters and Op classes given by a completely wrong meta

But unfortunately also in 224 hr

[toxic sedge]

try harders, cheaters, meta abusers... It's cool because they all go there and make other game modes clean so I'm ok with it

[limber jolt]

Instead they make me want to uninstall, my interest after 3 seasons is zero

[sinful gull]

that is the right attitude...we have alot of problems to worry about but there are ways to play the game and still have a absolutely great time.. I know with the changes: no 225+ this wipe, no ap grind, no questing, no farming just pvp solo and pvp duo trio lfg.. And pickpocket is peaking too. Going back to no-hide rogue was also good cause its the least countered class in solo(just bonklocks/lantern shield can suck)

[limber jolt]

I'm going to dive into Mistfall and see.

[toxic sedge]

it depends of what you expect from this game, personally I have enough fun in -124 and 224- HR lobbies, I'm playing on different maps, trying to learn every boss, try to build the more profitable runs by learning modules rotations etc. I love the game actually and hope it will be better

[fallen glade]

Mistfall looks cool im playing it on the side now

[sinful gull]

mistfall looks good, i will try it when they have eu servers.

[limber jolt]

It was done well, and surely the Devs are more professional and experienced

Besides being poorly balanced this game also has some big problems, I often get blue screens or crashes

They have little experience and even risk destroying our PC

[toxic sedge]

yes we just have to readjust our own gameplay to extract the more enjoyable part of the game. If in arena / 224+ there are cheaters, they just have to dont go there and play the game in a different way. Thats it.

[limber jolt]

I'm starting to think that the Devs sell Golds, so they do everything to make the game grindy

😅

[toxic sedge]

the only one player who always win is the casino himself X)

[limber jolt]

Strangely enough they do nothing to avoid the Gold sellers

[toxic sedge]

I would do the same if I was D&D devs X)

life is tough, the kid need to be feeded

[limber jolt]

Then they should change jobs

[toxic sedge]

it's the fatalism. I dont believe in the good samaritan mindset. I was probably a 666 warlock in a previous life X)

[limber jolt]

If you love to be penetrated, go ahead. 😂

[teal stirrup]

anyone know how much plus 4 all is going for?

[sinful gull]

i did not grind a minute this wipe.. i pvp and have fun, allways.. when im bored I play something else.. I will still criticise some of the changes this season such as monetization, item rolls, removal of 24gs .. but I have to admit its not hard to have fun in DaD rn. As a veteran I can proudly say i was never demigod, I never completed quests, I never spend alot of time bossfarming, never grinded/mined resources, really. Thats why I still love this game after 3k h.. Im actually happy the cheaters are all in 225+ while I have fun in 224

[toxic sedge]

I didnt say I like it but you know this kind of speech "politicians are bad blabla" it remembers me the teen ager speech who discover the world predation. Game dev who become powerfull will use their notoriety to make money on their playerbase. Thats it.

[primal ether]

yo guys is it my wifi that sucks or the servers are lagging ?

[limber jolt]

They are also in 224 and arena, and the Devs do nothing. And these are the ones who sell Golds too. This will cause them to fail.

[toxic sedge]

if artisanal DEVs sell themselves to the devil for money and spit on their playerbase, I'm not going to cry and pretend "its bad blabla". I'll quit and go play on other game.

[limber jolt]

Mistfall Is the answer

[toxic sedge]

for exemple,

[toxic sedge]

but remember that previously couple of games lead us to think that D&D will fall... they ALL felt

[limber jolt]

Because they were poorly made, indecent combat. But you'll see that something better will come out. For example Mistfall.

[woeful raft]

facts, far form competitive when certain classes are simply overpowered and outshines most others.

i dont think plated fighters, clerics, barbs should be moving 330ms with weapons out, makes no FN sense.
SMITE NEEDS TO BE NERFED. so talented you can run 310ms+ w/ smite and 3 tap people w/ max PDR from divine protection.
i dont think rogues should go COMPLETELY INVIS, INVIS in the dark maybe , BUT in light TRANSLUCENT at most. solo leaderboard shows exactly why its cancer.
i dont think rogues should 3 tap 170+ HP players,
remove TRUE Damage leave armor penn and magin penn.
druids needs a major rework.
phantomize needs to be regen through camp. no reason you should escape death every 20 seconds. you can already be max health the entire fight, . warlocks are so broken and you dont even need a lot of mag healing.. warlock meta was so cancer to the game and im glad they nerfed it but warlock is still OP IMO.
LONG BOWS and range weapons in general needs to be nerfed, WHY TF is a longbow doing 1/3 my health from across the room before the fight even begins.... oh yea tru phys, Ledg Long bow, no drop, Bonus Dam perk... so skillful. so talented.
ALSO THERE IS NO REASON why a wiz should be a front line w/ ignite.

honestly this games a joke. a meme at best.
&& the team doesnt even communicate with the player base after countlessly saying they will lmao

[toxic sedge]

you know the story of the guy who start a new relationship with a woman but still talk bout his ex. D&D is and will awlays be in the player mind.

[split lynx]

Lmao this game has devs?

I thought this was like forever-alpha abandoned game

[toxic sedge]

as a first love, D&D is the first FPS dungeon & dragon crawler

[limber jolt]

The horrible thing about this game is that a class or a gear can easily eliminate another player. Without giving them a chance to counterattack. This completely erases the personal skill helping cheaters who are lonely and useless people.

[fleet surge]

I applaud this 👏 finally someone addressing most if not all the main issues with the balancing and not just crying about ONE class like all the annoying Timmy’s do in this discord

[primal garnet]

the yap and cope is a little bit crazy, just go play pve and shut it

[woeful raft]

and this is coming from place of love, i got over 2k hours in the game, i love it this shit sucks man

[limber jolt]

Mistfall Hunter

[split lynx]

No, it isn't.

[toxic sedge]

first notorious one, yes

[limber jolt]

👍

[timid grail]

why does it say item retained after loss ALL for arena does that mean you can bring in stuff not minted?

[primal garnet]

not my cup of tea

[atomic cove]

So to me, this game isn't just a genre title—it’s a collection of dreams. Initially, we explained it simply as a "medieval fantasy extraction game" to help others understand, but internally, we now refer to it as an "FPS medieval fantasy simulator." After exploring many genre combinations, we’ve realized that strict genre definitions aren't that important to us anymore.~~sdf

its not dungeon crawler anymore

[split lynx]

Anyone playing current dark and darker and pretending the balance isn't aids and marketplace isn't a negative is wild imo

Game is in the worst place ever and there is a reason they are down 87%(?) playerbase

[atomic cove]

you have reason above

[woeful raft]

&& the fd up part.. is theres more.

[toxic sedge]

calm down Sheldon, calm down

[split lynx]

Who cares about semantics? The game was better in playtest than it is now lmao

They have actively made the game worse over the course of two years of additions

[atomic cove]

i cited sdf

[woeful raft]

those players... are the players who play the meta, if barb was suddenly broken tommorw theyd play it.

[atomic cove]

people wanted dungeon crawler and we have medieval fps simulator

so you have it

i hope fog (not fog of war) return one day, it got removed from all maps back when ice map released, TEMPORARILY

[solemn lily]

is there an up-to-date inferno map with all mobs?

[toxic sedge]

if you would be a gladiator and I was Caesar I will give you this nickname: Semanticus Firstdegreeus

[woeful raft]

ive stuck with bard through COUNTLESS wipes && seen it all. majority people just play meta and its not their fault. its a balancing issue. and this team has an issue doing so. cearly.

[atomic cove]

and fog was partially the reason why objects didnt render in front of your eyes, like they do now

also if we have unique mobs on the map can we do bunch more? like give normal skeletons and goblins something like occasional pants, gloves, chest, some visible shit to satiate my eyes

maybe blood moon occasionally

[limber jolt]

Little people

[young heart]

what mob drops torn bat wings ? i cant find it

[atomic cove]

bats in hell

[woeful raft]

yea demon bats

[untold aspen]

does penetrating shot work on ranger?

[atomic cove]

yes, he can penetrate really well

[restive pendant]

Hello, I have a few questions pls.
Is the Troll Pelt dropable in PVE ?
Is the spellbook or the crystalball the best item on wizard ?

[elder basin]

Troll pelt is droppable everywhere, from adventure to high roller+

[atomic cove]

crystal is better, troll pelt has very small chance to drop on pve, pvp pretty small too

when you stack true damage tho spellbook has less movespeed penalty so i would take it on high end

[desert lintel]

Lies I've never seen it in pve

And I've killed troll twice

[restive pendant]

Thanks ! : )

[magic void]

guys one question for a noob player: when you are using longsword How use the second attack when you are on parry ? i saw many ppl doing this and i only know how to do like normal secuency first stockade and then hit the 2º attack

[desert lintel]

Two whole times

[elder basin]

Smaller drop chance to already low drop chance

[desert lintel]

Ohh ok

Pve mode had worse drop rates?

[atomic cove]

yes

[urban owl]

right click again when you hear the noise

[magic void]

thank you!

[grand swallow]

Does riposte scale with phys

Does dex make riposte faster

[humble bloom]

Yes

Action speed does make it faster. Riposte scales with physical dmg

[grand swallow]

I just started playing fighter im a cleric main XD

[humble bloom]

If you take the perks that increase action speed after blocking your riposte comes out real quick.

[obtuse halo]

how easy is it to get banned for toxic names

not because I want to get someone banned, I want to know what I can get away with lol

[hushed vortex]

Everytime I want to switch my class it kicks me out of the game and says "The connection to the server terminated Abnormally. Please restart the client"

[obtuse halo]

did you try restarting your client?

[hushed vortex]

What does that mean?

[brittle nexus]

genuine question, whats the known map and rooms for pvp right now, no matter what i load into with high roller i only come across one timmy or is this just bc the game is dead now

[carmine sage]

does anybody have a boss ranking from hardest to easiest

[radiant swan]

Can you even find Artifacts on G caves uncapped?

[cosmic star]

everyone is doing arena

[wind venture]

The arena maps are so wide open, that it sucks so much to play barb... trash maps man.

[brittle nexus]

who tf cares about arena u aint even win any gear wtf

[zenith lily]

can artifacts be found anywhere in 225 HR? or solely bosses

[wind venture]

A lot of players??? lol

[zenith lily]

I haven't fought all the bosses yet but I do have a banshee kill under my belt and have to say banshees pretty easy once you learn its patterns.

[dry drift]

This highly depends on the class you are fighting it with

[dry drift]

Prob though from easiest to hardest. Spectral Knight, Lich (if not solo), Cyclops, Banshee, Ghost King, Troll, Lich (Solo), Warlord.

honestly the first 3 are all about the same difficulty,

But like if you are cleric, a bunch of them because super easy. Demonform warlock with magic resist and undead damage perks also trivilizes any undead boss fight by taking almost noo damage and having a short CD self heal. If you learn how to parry any longsword class can roflstomp almost all bosses with parry techs.

[vocal turtle]

mann do i love the fact that rogue can just chill in the pile room at ice cavern 40m ground and keep poking people while we loot

[cosmic star]

me when i complain about rogue

[vocal turtle]

yeah i mean what should i do ?

[cosmic star]

:3

[vocal turtle]

im still waiting for the fighter flight update

since sdf's playing fighter now hes bound to do it

[rare helm]

guys how much should i sell this phoenix chocker its legendary with 1 Agility 1 Magic power 1Vigor and 2 Max health

[subtle goblet]

look on the market

[dry drift]

not that much, when you list an item you can hit the search button in the middle of screena nd it'll auto search for item with same stats. At that point if there isn't one for price reference, remove the health stats one by one until you find a price reference. The vigor and max health isn't ideal for a phoenix choker, but it's also not bad.

I mean it'll be a a few hundred maybe even close to a 1000

but it's nothing that special

[weak portal]

Frost, pile room, and afterwards wyern if you are looking for pvp

[jovial spindle]

dead game love seeing 20 rouges in one match just running all game

worse state of the game ive seen in a long time

[nimble pollen]

ok

[plucky rover]

does arena leave in 8 mins or....

[hard fiber]

hi everyone, do you know wnen developers will add patch with ruby crafts

[limber jolt]

Instead of fixing the ms problem they made it bigger, now if you don't have 330 it's useless to play. And if you have 330 expect a warrior in plate that runs faster than you with the weapon out. This all creates a reality where people chase each other instead of fighting.

[noble aurora]

first time trying arena, every match im just killed by an invisible rouge lol is rouge the go-to strat for this?

[covert yew]

are lyres better than pickaxes now for interaction speed? Im seeing so many people use lyres over the pickaxe

[dry drift]

they have always been better

well maybe not ALWAYS but for awhile if the lyre has regular intereaction speed on it

[drowsy pebble]

can u craft brave hunter pants yet?

[covert yew]

I've always wondered because I dont know how much resourcefulness is compared to % reg interact speed

[dry drift]

AGI also increases Regular interaction speed

[covert yew]

yes, but from what i gather resourcefulness gives more, but the comparison atm is from the pick and lyre, one gives flat resource and the other gives % reg interact speed

[dry drift]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Regular_Interaction_Speed

[covert yew]

i tried looking at that, but it made no sense to me

[dry drift]

people tend to have low resourcefulness so adding to that gives a bigger boost at lower values

a bard mgiht do better with a pickaxe honestly idk you'd have to do the math, just because their resourcefulness is alreadys o high

but the fact you can have have resourcefulness AND regular interaction speed is why lyres are soooo good

[vale robin]

Iirc bard does better with a blue+ pickaxe than a blue+ lyre

[dry drift]

Yeah I thought so, but that's only if the lyre doesn't also have regular interaction speed on it

[vale robin]

aye

[dry drift]

bards are nasty miners though, you can make where you mine so fast you can sit in PVE gold room and steal all the gold ores just by going to the node that someone is mining and mining before they are even halfway done

[vale robin]

Anyone seen if you can get a legendary pick axe actually in raids?

I know you can now get epics

[covert yew]

I've seen plenty of them on the market so i would assume so

unless you can craft them then idk

[jovial spindle]

agreed fix the move speed, nerf cleric, honestly pve is already a dead mode being epic loot it was supposed to be to teach people the game but it isnt the same as hr which is the end game.

[sage rampart]

should I use blue health pots/bandages or just stick to grey ones

ive been using them, and they're really ripping up my bank a bit

[jovial spindle]

they make a huge impact in fights but if you trust your spacing and choice making you can go gray

[sage rampart]

oh aight then

[merry crater]

yo my hb got banned for no reason

any devs that can help

[dry drift]

I'd say it's far from dead, still great for newer players. But I would love to see a PVE HR mode with still a max of purple drops but just slightly more chance for purples.

[jovial spindle]

they could just do what tarkov did and make it into its own mode, they have a server they could already just use for it its not like they use the test servers

[dry drift]

Idk, honestly I think that will split the playerbase and make pvers never want to try out pvp. I wouldn't tottaly be opposed to that though. I just think it's got potential to really limit the amount of players that end up playing pvp.

and It honestly gets tired seeing the same 20 people all the time

[jovial spindle]

even in pve currently you have people with 1k hours bringing hordes of mobs to new players and getting them killed that doesnt help them learn

give it a somewhat intro to the game and let them play with there friends and themself and it will make them curios about the pvp version of the game

[dry drift]

I mean you can fix that but just slightly lowering player count for PVE dungeons

which I think they should do by just a tad

[rancid zephyr]

Yo guys i purple ramg arena

[dry drift]

or at least have hidden matchmaking where it tries to put all solos together and etc, but fills if needed

[jovial spindle]

i mean another point you could look at it is that how can new player learn quests and bosses when the experince players just rush it lowering the pop shouldnt fix that

[covert yew]

oh i cant post the screenshot, but your saying my pickaxe/luck set would be better on a bard instead of a rogue?

[dry drift]

Well I also think there might be warrant to increase the rarity of some items like troll pelt to be legendary or something, or just remove t hem from the PVE loot table.

[jovial spindle]

but then you couldnt get it in norms pvp

wait i lied you can ignore me

[dry drift]

you can get legnedarys in nroms

[tame cove]

in queue for 10 mins, great job stone hammer

[dry drift]

They kinda need to look at the super valuable items that drop at purple and below rarity for crafting mats and make them higher rarity or not available in PVE, That will get rid of thousand hour boss runners in PVE

[subtle goblet]

for arena?

[dry drift]

and Im one of those people, I have like 10+ pelts and 20+ fabrics from pve

[jovial spindle]

yea i messed up but if they did change that what other thing would people be doing in raids for hr pvp and norms pvp, it is legit just bossing