game-discussion

[dense berry]

If someone runs away and you still chase them because "they don't deserve their kit" its bullying

[atomic condor]

nobody has argued that, and saying it like this makes you look like a real prick

[pastel walrus]

I’d sell your kit to armorer

[normal sun]

If it’s trash I’ll throw it down to the next 0 to hero guy I see

[pastel walrus]

Let the rat rogues pick it dry lol

[rocky quarry]

they are trying to make it that, cant say this last wipe was much more than that

[normal sun]

Nah those aren’t people we don’t feed them

[pastel walrus]

Lmao

Rat rogues are so funny

I’m sure it’s exhilarating hiding in a dark corner for 15 minutes

[normal sun]

Probably as fun as the ranger pick build in GC watching a number go up the whole run

[pastel walrus]

Just to get 2 tapped cause you have no health or pdr

[brazen grove]

well all i see is going for a lazy way to keep this game alive somehow

[pastel walrus]

I still see rat druids run into floor spikes or zombie gas

[agile depot]

When is wipe?

[pastel walrus]

Or get poisoned by gobs and transform and die instantly to poison tick

[normal sun]

Could be worse could be like planetside merge servers to their worst server then wonder why the player base is in the gutter on merge day

[quick plinth]

Bruh, in what world is pve gonna do anything for anyone lmao. This game has such easy and predictable mobs and bosses, pve is gonna be so fucking boring lmao. And will not be a good place for new players to learn anything besides some of the mob attack patterns. The moment you move from pve to pvp you will get demolished by all the people like me who have 2k hours, and aren’t friendly. All this will do will further fragment an already dying player base. What silly idea

[normal sun]

Wipe isn’t for those who don’t check pins

[shy gull]

when is WIPE?

[normal sun]

Wipe isn’t

[pastel walrus]

Omg dawg wipe happens when wipe happens

[agile depot]

What a goofy reply

[glass silo]

2k hours playin in normal where high tier loots have been removed?

[sand elk]

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[normal sun]

Well if you still don’t know where to find wipes then wipe isn’t

[sand elk]

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[pastel walrus]

It’s not that hard to find out yourself instead of asking chat every 5 seconds

[quick plinth]

2k hours spent in all gear brackets and maps.

[agile depot]

I know you got 5k hours in this game bro. It’s not that serious

[sand elk]

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[agile depot]

Ty!

[normal sun]

Nah I have a bit more time on my hand try asking @quick plinth

[glass silo]

R u the 2k hours u r talkin about? Adventure mode is actually cool and all as new players now can do quests and learn mobs as well as dungeon layout in peace, idk what u talking about

[brazen grove]

pretty much this the game already plays like shit if you play an EU sweater HR round 225+ but it also doesnt offer much on the pve side tbh
instead of fixing the actual problems like gear progression, third partying, 4 teams looking at each other in boss room, mechanics to engage / disengage fights that have counterplay and not flying across a whole module as a chicken

[pastel walrus]

Best part of a game is learning the game not getting your hand held through everything

[normal sun]

I wish you’d hold me

[pastel walrus]

Y’all are like Elon Musk dying to the PoE 2 tutorial boss and rage quitting

[sand elk]

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[normal sun]

[pastel walrus]

Trios would be nice but I only have 1 friend

[normal sun]

Don’t forget quads was still in the development pipeline from time gone by

[glass silo]

Man the trailer vid is hyped af, wipe nowwwwww 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[sand elk]

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[rocky girder]

while elon's rage is quite comical, I think the adventure mode will serve as a tutorial for new players, something the game sorely lacks. Having tried to get my friends to play the game, it is quite hard to not overwhelm them with all the PVE and base mechanics with PVP on top of it too

[sand elk]

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[pastel walrus]

Solos is awful it’s all rat rogues and CoP warlocks

[glass silo]

Bro u can bring nothing into the first bracket of hr now, u like having a naked rogue or druid ratting for 3rd party while u wearin named and shjt?

[brazen grove]

if playing sub 25 norms and you are overwhelmed by it then the game isnt for them

[quick plinth]

I’m saying this will not help new players. All it does is segment your learning into two stages. You will need to put in a lot of hours in pve to learn the mobs and stuff, then move to pvp and have to learn all over again when you play the real game into other people. You will need to fully relearn the game as playing with no pvp is essentially an entirely different game than PvP. Sure you may learn how to kill a skeleton or two, but you just spent 100-200 hours learning bad habits that will not translate to PvP

[pastel walrus]

I taught my girlfriend dark and darker and the only games she played before was Minecraft, Sims and Fortnite

[rocky girder]

respectfully, the sub 15 lobbies were plauged with skilled players skill farming noobs because they lacked the pvp option of arena

[covert mist]

true sub 15 lobbies is where skill makes the biggest difference

[quick plinth]

Yuuuupppp. Nailed it

[rocky girder]

congratulations then, ernestly!

[sand elk]

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[rocky girder]

does she still play?

[glass silo]

Wtf so back then new players dont learn from doing pve then move on to pvp? Its the same but now they just dont have to pve and pvp at the same time

[pastel walrus]

We haven’t played the past week or so cause we are waiting for wipe but yes

[quick plinth]

Yep! Wooden spoon has never had the slightest clue of how to balance. The only place the game is somewhat fair is sub 25 lobbies

[normal sun]

Bro same once season closed out me and bros were like cool see you wipe day 😂

[sand elk]

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[rocky girder]

i fundamentally disagree. Dark and Darker has always been a steep learning curve PRECISELY because you must learn the PVE fundamentals before you can succeed in PVP. This change allows a space for players to master that in a relatively controlled enviornment.

[pastel walrus]

End of wipe is so bad like what do you mean skull keys at 2k

[sand elk]

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[glass silo]

Idk what u trying to say bro, can u rephrase it

[haughty mist]

druid buff

[glass silo]

Cause no one needs it lmao

[keen lark]

aint nobody wanna buy skull keys for 50k to run them on the last day of wipe lmao

[pastel walrus]

No point in running SK cause it’s NEVER a Fulgor

[rocky girder]

if you think that providing a tool to new players to learn at their own pace, the base fundamentals of the gameplay loop and mechanics that many of the current playerbase still dont know, is a bad thing, then you have a rather hot take.

[quick plinth]

Huh? There was no pve mode b4. You had to just learn the game. But at least you’d be learning the game as a whole, instead of learning it in segments. In pve you won’t need to worry about audio, enemies tracking you based on mobs dead, team comps etc. if you do pve you will just be slowing down your progress. Guess what, it’s gonna take pve players playing for the first time 20 raids just to survive their first raid either way. At least in PvP along the way you will be learning the other aspects of the game too like how other classes are played, how enemies track you, what other classes do etc.

[sand elk]

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[sand elk]

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[glass silo]

Yes cause its for the super new ofc

[sand elk]

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[glass silo]

Slowing u down or not it gonna help them not to rage quit after dying 3m in the dungeon by spawn rusher in 24 gs

[sand elk]

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[pastel walrus]

I hope they never introduce SBMM

[glass silo]

U can do quests as well

[quick plinth]

Unfortunately, the pve has never been the hard part of the game. While it does take players awhile to survive their first module, that will still be the case in pve. The only difference is you will be thrown to the wolves the moment you think you know what you are doing because you thought you had it all figured out because you finally killed ur first skeleton mage. I believe how this will actually pan out will be: new player plays 100 pve games, eventually getting half good at survivng into the pve, then move to PvP and get demolished, then either stop playing or go back to pve for another 200 games, rinse and repeat

[sand elk]

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[brazen grove]

they cant they seperated their player base so much you basicallly have the same 100 people in every queue anyway

[pastel walrus]

That’s true

[glass silo]

And its not slowing anyone down jesus its a learning curve, and why would u think learning multiple things at the same time make it faster wtf

[quick plinth]

They still gonna be dying 3m in for the first 50 matches either way.

[pastel walrus]

Exactly what I’m sayin

[rocky girder]

I agree that players should learn that level of meta awareness, but that level of learning comes after mastery of the fundamentals. A moderately experienced player isn't going to even remotely understand things such as tracking players and class v class counters until they have fully understood and turned the base mechanics of the dungeon and enviornment into an automatic process. I think that Adventure mode will help players, especially new ones, get a grasp of those until they become automatic, THEN they can worry about meta information.

[quick plinth]

How would it not??? You learn PvP and pve in the PvP mode lol

[pastel walrus]

Most of the class match ups are common sense for anyone that has played a class based game before

[sand elk]

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[wild marlin]

majority of players quit the game early because they get run down due to forced pvp, i dont see the issue with pve, just don't play it if you cant kill monsters

[sand elk]

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[rocky girder]

this isnt a conversation about PVE being too easy or hard

[sand elk]

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[sand elk]

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[untold void]

when is wipe exactly..?

[sand elk]

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[untold void]

timezone

[boreal snow]

3pm on the 10th KST

[serene crow]

tomorrow night

[untold void]

thx

[pastel walrus]

If you are day 1 you should go and learn ice abyss first thing

[sand elk]

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[boreal snow]

Korean Standard Time

[pastel walrus]

Ice Abyss is amazing

[rancid needle]

if u were that guy helping me out with spectral dm me

[rocky girder]

that is not what I have said. I believe the PVE mode is a tool to teach new players and help even experienced players engage with mechanics that they normally wouldnt.

[quick plinth]

Why would you want to stifle yourself like that? How many games does it take to figure out how a skeleton swings? Isn’t this a hardcore game? Why would you want to learn baby mode then learn big boy mode. Play the game, die like we all did 100 times, get your first kill, feel the rush, want to get better, then get better

[pastel walrus]

I don’t like inferno cause it looks like the walls are made out of meat

[sand elk]

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[glass silo]

How can u learn pvp when u cant even pve, new players would learn pve, find it hard, look up for some tips and tricks on ytband then move to watching ytber with high skills pvpin then thats how they will learn

[brazen grove]

what that would be 24h and 30minutes no?
i never seen them dooing patches at this time

[copper scarab]

Haven't played for like 6 months, how's the game right now? pretty balanced, very unbalanced? Good updates since 6 months ago?

[pastel walrus]

Ice abyss is cool cause you just fight a bunch of people at Wyvern

[quick plinth]

You can already do this in PvP mode. If you ultimately are gonna use yet anyway, then what point is it to even have pve?

[boreal snow]

It's on their pinned in #the-tavern

[glass silo]

How can they learn pvp when fighting 2k hours, tell me how, they dont even know how to or dont even know about spacing, weapon collision, the weapon mechanics and a lot more pvp stuff

[quick plinth]

Yt *

[pastel walrus]

Dawg there is not often 2k hours in squire lobbies

Most of the time if you in 0-24 GC it’s other Timmies

[rocky girder]

While I do share the same mentality, (I love challenging myself until I break through the wall that is blocking me) you do have to consider that ever since the game has gone Free to Play, IRONMACE has to consider the non hardcore playerbase too. hence, a more relaxed, reduced rewards, PVE dungeon crawler mode

[pastel walrus]

Maybe like every 10 games you’ll get a stomper but it’s not that bad like y’all make it out to be

[brazen grove]

nobody with 2k will be on goblin cave for example clearing rooms near the corners of the map in 24- lobbies what are you on about

[pastel walrus]

All the good players go to high roller so they can actually be rewarded for their efforts

[quick plinth]

This is a fundamental problem with the game tho that pve will not help. A 200 hour pve player will still get destroyed by a 2k hour PvP player. It won’t be close. The real move would be to find meaningful ways to promote the 2k hour players to not do low roller. Not to slow down ur learning process

[long vector]

Playr Pop is gonna skyrocket with adventure mode bet

[glass silo]

Why u hating it so much jesus, think of it as a tutorial for new players, u has no purpose for u but it helps new players to finally try sth without getting killed in 2m from players, at least from players

[pastel walrus]

Cause there nothing but piss in normals

[brazen grove]

thats new but nice for my timezone thanks

[rocky girder]

and if Dark and Darker is ever going to survive financially and become a proper marketable commercial success, then they need new blood and new players. We are the old guard, we held the line, but we alone cannot keep this ship afloat.

[long vector]

how long have you been waiting to say that

[dense berry]

People are fighting it mostly because they don't want their supply of new players to beat up on to go away.

[pastel walrus]

That was the corniest thing I’ve ever heard

[rocky girder]

should I have been waiting to say that for some reason?

[glass silo]

Its an option, they dont force u to do pve mode then pvp mode holy shjt, why aint u getting this. New players have their choices to divide it into 2 learning segment or not

[quick plinth]

That just isn’t what dnd is though. And the moment you move to PvP you will realize your 200 hours in pve did nothing for you, and you still need to put in your 2k hours to have s chance into me

[queen tide]

Wipe tomorrow?

[rocky girder]

Thats just off the cuff.

[pastel walrus]

“We are Fortnite” ahh

[glass silo]

I supposed so lmao

[pastel walrus]

How long have you had a victim complex?

[quick plinth]

Because it won’t help them. It will teach them bad habits and not teach them the things they need to learn to be able to compete. All it does it slows down your progress to be able to compete.

[boreal snow]

3PM April 10th KST as mentioned in the Pinned Messaged of #the-tavern

[pastel walrus]

PvE will kill the game

[quick plinth]

Yuuup

[pastel walrus]

Just stop new players from learning properly

[silent notch]

wait is 0-24 being removed?

[quick plinth]

To be fair, wooden spoon already had

[wild marlin]

anyone here think the PvE mode will be like sea of thieves or tarkov and become the more popular mode? Im seeing a lot of people who are saying they'll probably just play PvE only from now on

[queen tide]

Perfect thanks

[glass silo]

Bro someone above mentioned about 2k players and i just include it in my argurment, scroll up and read

[boreal snow]

Changing to 0-224 or 0-124 I forget which

[sand elk]

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[tough depot]

0-124

[boreal snow]

Tyty

[brazen grove]

yeah you realize now your argument makes zero sense

[quick plinth]

Idk who could stomach more than a few rounds of pve if semi competent in the game. The pve is extremely easy once you have a baseline of how mobs work. Looting treasure to kill a mob a little faster will not feel good

[glass silo]

What bad habits :v

[quick plinth]

Not understanding audio/player tracking team comps how other classes work, what stats matter in pvp etc

[glass silo]

???? Thay guy mentioned sth about 2k players, fking scroll up yourself and read

[pastel walrus]

Dawg if you don’t like PvP it’s cause you haven’t gotten a kill yet, once you get your first kill and you see their body flop you’ll crave that high for the rest of your life

[wild marlin]

a lot of people, apparently. half the playerbase is below average skill

[hearty brook]

so looking at the trailer footage, im a little lost. For clerificaiton, is the PVE mode just normal Dungeons but you CANT attack other players? I assumed it was just you and other people you partied up with alone in the dungeon?

[quick plinth]

And will remain their indefinitely while in pve mode

[boreal snow]

Basically normals with no PvP and drastically reduced rewards

[rocky girder]

I've done my time since playtest 3, yet I am not particularly good at PVP. Because despite me playing the game for a long time, I cant dedicate to it like a second job. I only ever got any amount of mastery over the Inferno in season 4. I had to learn Troll and Cyclops when it came out through brutal trial and error like everyone else. I would have loved to have had an adventure mode back then to be able to engage with the non PVP content, so that I could gain some mastery over it in a less frustrating way. Some of the grandest rage quits for players come right after they finally triumph over a great challenge they have been working at for hours or even days, and then suddenly a landmine rouge murders them in their moment of glory and steals their spoils.

and thats just how the game goes, and some people like that. (me), and some people would throw their laptop out a window.

[quick plinth]

I will go into pve mode and find every way possible to get other new players killed.

[brazen grove]

you have 89 iq? i just answered to you saying a new player has no chance to kill a 2k which is right, but in a normal scenario these 2 players rarely meet anyway

[late plinth]

There’s definitely gonna be a dedicated playerbase where they’ll only play PvE mode

[wild marlin]

that is actually sad lol.

[brazen grove]

at first, but not for long

[quick plinth]

I don’t play anymore, but that is the sentiment many players will have

[pastel walrus]

I’m definitely gonna troll as hard as I can in PvE

[wintry tartan]

Are the devs actually adding a ssf mode?

[boreal snow]

I thought you didn't want to play in PvE? Why not just play normals and let Timmies timmy

[pastel walrus]

Ima go in rogue and get a mob train and invis next to a Timmy lol

[quick plinth]

This is a problem with the game that will not be solved by a pve mode. It’s s bandaid solution that will not fix anything

[quick plinth]

Yupppp

[ancient crest]

Very dramatic. PvE will help bring your friends into the game to get a feel for just surviving. You don't PvP when you start because the goblins will get you in like 18 seconds. It also helps with gear fear. If people play PvE and stay there, then they were never going to play in your PvP sandbox. If people play PvE and eventually try to risk it in Normals, then mission accomplished you have a new possible player.

If you're stressing about PvE mode because you won't get to slam newbies into the lockers you've been the problem since multiplayer gaming has existed 30+ years ago

[wild marlin]

seems that way

[hearty brook]

excellent way to put it

[quick plinth]

It will double down gear fear for players moving from pve to PvP. Not lessen it

[glass silo]

So u saying they have to learn this and pve at the same time and it would be a faster process for them to get gud at da game?
First, who cares about team comp when u new to a game :0 and second r u sure u know what the stats in this game even do in your first 50 matches?

[pastel walrus]

Mob train them timmies who’s with me

[gaunt yarrow]

is arena gone for rest of wipe?

[pastel walrus]

I don’t know

[pastel walrus]

Cause it’s funny lol

[quick plinth]

People playing PvP need to care about comp and stats and all the other things said. Not having a clue about any of it just means the moment u leave PvP you have an entirely new gameto learn. People still gonna rq after being dumpstered on by experienced players when they make the move to PvP, and no amount of pve will prepare you for the actual game.

[brazen grove]

yes like 90% of the patches are either only a few numbers they change or bandaid a problem they put in the game 3 patches back. my favourite is going back and forth with numbers like 10 times in a row

[quick plinth]

Moment you leave pve*

[pastel walrus]

My first kill in the game was a person that pushed me and I was terrified to fight but I hit that parry and it was a wrap and it felt amazing, thats the kind of moment a new player needs to be motivated to keep playing

[glass silo]

Bro like pve mode is just there for your first 100 runs or sth so u can get a gist of what this game is, then u can either go for normal to experience pvp or u can stay there move on to learnin bosses, doing quests. Even experienced players cant do some certain bosses

[quick plinth]

The fact of the matter is this is too little too late. If pve was in the game from the start, they would have maybe improved player retention. But now the player base is dead, and the people left have no need for pve. Iron mace is beyond incompetent, and it’s truly incredible if you’ve followed the game from the start watching them add and remove and add and remove the same things over and over again. I mean one of the recent patches just entirely undid all major balance changes for problematic classes from like 3 seasons lmao.

[ancient crest]

You're probably very experienced with this game and may have forgotten what it was like to be new. If your biggest fear is the skeletons, you aren't going to want to be dealing with the warlock trolling you just out of reach. When you have a really good handle on PvE and can clear rooms relatively well, then you can focus on PvP

This has been everyone's experience. They're just trying to make the barrier to entry not as brutal as it was for you and everyone else here. You're not wrong, but like why are you dying on this hill?

Most people get addicted to their first fight, especially their first kill. Just let folks get there their own way

[quick plinth]

That warlock trolling you just taught you a lot about the game by trolling you. You learned some of his spells and what ha can do and what to do into him

[ancient crest]

You can throw your kid into the pool. Or you can go in with them and walk them through the steps. The kid swims at the end of the day. They're going to try walking them through this time...

[quick plinth]

Coming out of pve mode after 100 games learning how s Skelington swings it will feel every bit as bad as it did if u started in PvP

[golden whale]

Believe it or not, some people don't care about pvp. Shocker, right?

[brazen grove]

100% this i dont know what to add here sad to see such a nice game becoming this

[pastel walrus]

Then dont play a PvP game go play Stardew Valley or The Sims

[golden whale]

No u

[ancient crest]

Hah, I knew this response would come out. It's legitimate and fair enough, but really not great for profit margins. Keep that in mind

[wild marlin]

the pvp elitist cope here is sad to see, there's a reason the game is dying

[pastel walrus]

Dawg im not the devs

I could not give less of a damn about profit margins

[ancient crest]

Yea maybe you missed my point. Just saying that they aren't doing this to slight the elite fanbase. They're doing this to try to broaden the fanbase and make more money. You telling people to go play a different game is just crazy

[pastel walrus]

I’m telling people not to waste their time playing a game that isn’t for them

[golden whale]

Don't humor the troll

[pastel walrus]

I don’t play RuneScape but I don’t ask RuneScape the change everything about it’s self I just play something else

[quick plinth]

Sure, but this is likely not the game for you then. I find it very hard to believe anyone will play more than 100 runs of pve in this game. The pve just isn’t dynamic or interesting enough like it is in games like Tarkov, and the gear you get is angled at improving your PvP. So looting things in pve will be basically meaningless. All the pve will do is delay your entrance into the real learning curve by 100 games. And when you emerge from pve you will be essentially no better off than when you started. A better solution would be to prevent experienced players into lobbies with new players so they can get s real game experience into other inexperienced players. But wooden spoon has no clue how to do thst

[ancient crest]

I knew a guy like this. He is still in Felucca on his old Ultima Online server stealing sigils 😄

[mossy wing]

Fair points all around, let's maintain respect towards one another 🙏

[pastel walrus]

Not everything is about wide appeal and profits

[quick plinth]

IM wastes tons of dev times on bandaid solutions like this instead of fixing the actual issues

[pastel walrus]

It’s that same kind of corporate scummy mentality that cause the downfall of the modern age

[ancient crest]

Haha, well now we're on the same page

[pastel walrus]

Is the reason modern AAA games are all slop

And the only games worth playing are Indie

[ancient crest]

Listen, I think we all can respect that we love the game we love. Just gotta keep an open mind and see if this works. This won't be the last time they add something that people wonder why they wasted the cycles doing. But sometimes this stuff is actually a good idea

[mossy wing]

Well if you must know, IronMace is adding PvE due to "extremely high requests for it" as stated by odin

[thorn apex]

is the adventure mode worth a re-install?

[quick plinth]

From players with 5 games that will play another 5 and die and uninstall

[quick plinth]

No

[wild marlin]

yes

[boreal snow]

PvE only game mode with lower gear quality overall

[ancient crest]

Yes lol - try a few games in the new patch and see for yourself. The game is 9gb the cost to try it is super low

[mossy wing]

Most companies don't change development priority for a low amount of people

[strong spruce]

personally, I dislike pvp due to the fact that I live in an area with poor internet and my game lags out whenever other players get within a certain distance, meaning I will never be able to effectively pvp regardless of how much I learn or improve because I will not be able to parry and my hits will land anywhere but where I'm actually aiming. having a pve mode will likely triple or quadruple my hours of played time within a month simply due to the fact that it feels bad dying to another player, but it feels infinitely worse dying to lag even though you could have beaten that other player. now I won't feel bad about losing to someone who I could have beat because I won't be forced into a fight with them

[quick plinth]

Most companies have a concise and understood direction of what they want their game or product to be

[pastel walrus]

If the company cared about money they wouldn’t have given everyone free legendary accounts on Epic

[golden whale]

There's no argument here, casuals run the world and it will always be that way

[mossy wing]

I agree

[ancient crest]

Can you defend this point? Some might argue that giving people the tickets to the show helps them buy more candy and popcorn (cosmetics)

[pastel walrus]

The game already had a free ticket

The popcorn was the legendary status

[quick plinth]

My argument is in 3 patches when there are 30 people on pve they will abandon it like they did the test servers and everything else they wasted 100s of hours of dev time on

[pastel walrus]

They literally had it set up to where you could play the game as much as you want for free and then if you decided we were serious about it you could get the full game for only 30 bucks

[still cypress]

That was a bad move by them, Epic is a horrible platform that is anti-consumer because of their exclusivity deals

[ancient crest]

The F2P model with cosmetic/mtx structure seems to prove otherwise. Legendary status, or pay to play this "free" game, is an old idea and not broadly adopted

[pastel walrus]

F2P with cosmetics is good for a games with lots of cosmetics

[mossy wing]

My counter argument is we really dont know anything and we shall wait and see if it works or not 🫂 💖

[pastel walrus]

Dark and darker has few cosmetics game devs should be allowed to charge for their games

[remote kayak]

I hope you can gather stuff from the adventure mode onto games

[pastel walrus]

The f2p mtx trend killed gaming

[ancient crest]

hah. well your point is valid. I guess we will never know without getting a glimpse of their cash statements

[pastel walrus]

Profitable for companies but bland and soulless for consumers

[ancient crest]

The torch skins are pretty cool. and campfires

[pastel walrus]

Since when is everything about money, what happened to passion projects and love for your work

What about the vision you have for your art

[queen tide]

The new mobs and items seem so boring i’m more excited to see all the balance changes

[ancient crest]

Doesn't always put food on the table, or depending on your goals, a porsche in the driveway

[solemn flicker]

When is wipe

[pastel walrus]

Dawg

#the-tavern

Look there

[quick plinth]

We know a few things:
Iron mace switches up decisions made every other patch
Iron mace abandoned the test servers due to mismanagement of them that resulted in no one playin on them
And iron mace has 0 clue at any one time what is going on with their game or the direction it is going to go

Oh circle was bad let’s remove it. Oh actually circle is good let’s re add it
Players can’t get loot out let’s add expressman so they can get some out. Oh expressman is bad let’s remove it. Oh expressman might be good let’s re add it.
Oh this class is broken let’s nerf this. Actually let’s re add that aspect in now 5 patches in
Oh rangers can’t loot stuff let’s add quiver. Oh we don’t know how to do this let’s add sashes

[fleet merlin]

PVE mode is going to help burn out this game x2 faster for a new player.
It's already accelerated x5 since the addition of the marketplace.
I don't think they've thought this trough.

After you've done all the bosses, what else is there. Arena?
Arena is gatekept by unemployed people with a lot of time on their hands.

[solemn flicker]

@pastel walrus could have just responded to my question with the answer domboss

[ancient crest]

Hah, well every game is survived by the sweats. It'll always be that way. They are the last ones standing

[valid falcon]

BRUH WHAT ARE THEY DOING????? JUST MAKE A 6 V 6 GAMEMODE

[pastel walrus]

Don’t talk to me if you can’t spell

[valid falcon]

EVERYONE PETITION FOR 6v6

[quick plinth]

Yuuuup. Imagine the frustration of putting a few hundred hours into pve mode only to move to PvP and get Molly whopped 30 games in a row cause u still have 0 ideas out the game. That’s gonna be an uninstall

[fleet merlin]

Heck yea!

[valid falcon]

WE ALL WANT 6v6 | LITERALLY NOT HARD TO DO AT ALL

[mossy wing]

Well yes I agree they have flip flopped on alot of things, I feel that is more just the gaming industry than IronMace, Sure IronMace have done it more than most, but atleast they are trying 😄

[pastel walrus]

Screw it 100 player battle royale

[valid falcon]

6 V 6 TDM | 6 V 6 CTF | EZ MAKE ME OWNER OF DND

[ancient crest]

100 player BR, build or no build?

[pastel walrus]

Build ofc

[wild marlin]

build

[ancient crest]

SWEATS

[pastel walrus]

Full boxes the rogue

[solemn flicker]

@pastel walrus Iron mace censors adult words

Even though the game is m rated 🤣

[pastel walrus]

Then don’t use adult words. Swearing doesn’t make you cool

[valid falcon]

6 v 6 CTF | 2 FORTS 1 BRIDGE | 3 LIVES

[quick plinth]

Trying isn’t good enough at this point in the games life cycle. Why waste 100s of hours of dev time on something that ultimately doesn’t add anything to the actual game

[ancient crest]

the insane skill cap that players hit in this game would be diabolical if they added mechanics that were twitchy like BR Build

my old dad fingers would just give up

[solemn flicker]

@pastel walrus this is the real world not ur safe space

[pastel walrus]

Add Titanfall 2 movement

[mossy wing]

I dont know, honestly

[valid falcon]

i should be able to slide and wall jump

[queen tide]

Give wizard arcane jetpack spell so it can compete with sorc

[quick plinth]

Neither do they, unfortunately. Mark my words. Either this next wipe or the one after pve mode will be gone

[pastel walrus]

Says the guy who got mad I told him to do his own research instead of rely on everyone else for answers to questions that take 10 seconds to find out yourself

[quick plinth]

If the game is still even alive by then

[valid falcon]

IF THEY WANT MORE PLAYERS THEY NEED TO ADD A CASINO

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY BLACKJACK AFTER KILLING A SQUAD

[pastel walrus]

Add artificer class that can make nuclear bombs on a 15 second CD

[solemn flicker]

@pastel walrus bro decided to complain and type of a giant paragraph instead of saying April 10th 🤦🤣

[mossy wing]

Okay, I'll remain optimistic, I will mark your words, just know that I fully respect your stance ❤️

[quick plinth]

They have this. It’s called hr solos. Will I get landlmine rogued at extract? Pull that slot arm and find out

[solemn flicker]

Noob

[valid falcon]

also buff the hunting traps, they nerfed it cuz of me

[queen tide]

Last season the day before wipe, the player count went down to 11k this wipe it has gone down to 5k 💀

[quick plinth]

Cool! Don’t care lol

[wild marlin]

you might be onto something

[pastel walrus]

If that’s what you consider a giant paragraph I feel bad for your English teachers, that was like 2 sentences.

[valid falcon]

ik i always have the best ideas

they added arena cuz of me

[wild marlin]

real

[ancient crest]

some of your ideas seem half baked, tbh

[tribal yoke]

I dont think they would remove the mode there releasing in 1 day?

[valid falcon]

now we need 6 v 6 or casino | if they retaliate 50% tariffs

[wild marlin]

texas hold em no limit in the dungeon

[quick plinth]

We didn’t think they’d remove test servers after making it one of the promises for hold the line purchasers, but hey, they did it like 3 patches later

[pastel walrus]

Alright but if we are getting a casino they need to add bars with pool tables into the dungeons so I can order 6 beers at a time

[quick plinth]

We didn’t think they’d remove expressman after half a wipe of it being in, but hey they did! Only to apparently now add it back in

[candid cave]

do we know when the new season will be dropped? I mean the time schedule

[wild marlin]

blackjack, too

[valid falcon]

we need a blackjack or roulette table in the game

[tribal yoke]

Test servers vs live game

[valid falcon]

let me kill a team and take their stuff and lose it all gambling

[pastel walrus]

We need more alcohol than just ale

[quick plinth]

We didn’t think they’d remove circle after it being an integral part of the game but hey they did! Only to re add it 5 wiped later

[pastel walrus]

We need car keys too for when we get drunk

[tribal yoke]

Feature that wasn't in the game to begin with, like goblin express

[quick plinth]

Pve is a feature that wasn’t in the game originally either… what?

[fleet merlin]

Arena has been the best addition for veteran players.

But, they left it half baked still. I'm telling you, in the first week, most of the old players have a legendary set for arena. (Not crazy, but still)
We're burning trough content like a piece of pie.

I need tournaments, some freaking rewards for wining a match, to the least extent to be able to buy meds from it. Or even those Tokens

[subtle heart]

real

[wild marlin]

medieval slot machines should be in every module

[tribal yoke]

Circle you got me there lmao

Id just make a mode like picking group size or gear score👍

[ancient crest]

Be honest though, circle made no sense in this game. It was just borrowed from PUBG/FN because it was "the thing". They should have had a better module based zone collapse instead of just these random circles

[coarse dock]

longsword for barb

[shadow gazelle]

i have a question with the adventure mode, is it gonna be like the normal dungeon crawling experience or is it a boss rush mode?

[valid falcon]

skins for ranks

[pastel walrus]

Dude just give every class longsword

[valid falcon]

WE HAVE A LIST OF DEMANDS! CASINO, 6v6, POOL TABLE, AND GUNS

[quick plinth]

I hated circle and still do. Just using it as an example and proof that from one wipe to the next neither us nor IM has a single clue what is going on with the game

[wild marlin]

the normal dungeon experience, no pvp

[ancient crest]

gotcha, yea i didn't catch all the convo. just circle is not a good idea

[fleet merlin]

PVE mode was asked about a few times in the past and they were 100% certain that they're not going to add this to the game.
I guess this is a result of SDF stepping down from the wheel. I don't think it's their brightest ideea.

[valid falcon]

what if PVE someone aggro all the mobs and mob dump them onto teams

[quick plinth]

Is sdf out? Honestly, no joke, that would be the best possible thing ironmace could do for their game

[valid falcon]

and after mob dump they take all the good stuff

[pastel walrus]

We need medieval carriage racing also

[quick plinth]

Yep. This is what will happen

[fleet merlin]

Not out but they said he's allowing them to be more involved, and make more decisions without his direct supervision of every detail

[valid falcon]

what if in pve I keep shield basing people and pushing them off map while doing ice dragon

[pastel walrus]

I already plan on doing this

[valid falcon]

so is the loot gonna be better in pvp lobbies????

[ancient crest]

bring your invis pots I guess

[fleet merlin]

Bro, keep cooking ,you're giving me ideas on how to make PVE mode actually fun :))

[copper solstice]

yes

[shadow gazelle]

people do that in Shadows of Chroma tower and i am a victim of it

[dry silo]

Where did the patch notes channel go?

[quick plinth]

Sdf has truly been a cancer on the game. The less he is involved in the better

[fleet merlin]

We're giving timmies a propper intro, welcome to the DaD experience

[tribal yoke]

[pastel walrus]

I’m gonna follow people in PvE and wait for them to open chest and then loot everything in it

[valid falcon]

half the season everyone gonna be in pve lobbies and then towards end half everyone will be in pvp lobbies

[tribal yoke]

I love timmys🫂

[quick plinth]

And by this time next wipe 0 people will be in pve and they will abandon it

And the same issues of experienced players stomping newer players will be there

[valid falcon]

6 v 6 gamemode solves everything

[pastel walrus]

Why stop at 6v6

[fleet merlin]

[pastel walrus]

Do 10v10 so we can get one of every class

[quick plinth]

Bruh they can’t balance 3v3 buff ball. Can you imagine barb with 5 supports buffing and healing him 1 shutting everything

[fleet merlin]

The other team will have the same or a different type of broken, Leave balance alone, make it fun

[valid falcon]

still be fun idc

[tribal yoke]

13v13*🤫 as long as they follow d&d which they better

[upper jungle]

Raid. Time, 20v 20!

[quick plinth]

Bruh ur cooked if u think not balancing stuff is fun

[pastel walrus]

13v13 but each team gets 30 PvE mobs they can command

[valid falcon]

6 v 6 capture the flag

[fleet merlin]

The only issue I've got with more than 5x5 is going trough a doorframe

[valid falcon]

boom ez

[upper jungle]

King of the hill!

[tribal yoke]

😇

[quick plinth]

Single file walking through as 5 wizards magic missile you would be so funny

[tribal yoke]

Halo again😇

[fleet merlin]

Windlass crossbow 5 man headshot

[upper jungle]

Noble 6 ;w;

[quick plinth]

Brother ur shooting a corpse with 4 bolts haha

[upper jungle]

Also, a mode where players control demi boss and boss would be funny xD

[tribal yoke]

🪦

[fleet merlin]

They've got every reason to try 10x10 arena and still, we're not getting it. If they put like 500GS range, that is possible for queuing

[pastel walrus]

They should add a voice to arena that says “ Welcome to the arena” and when you reach max rank you get an awkward blonde boy to hold a torch for you

[quick plinth]

Big map with like objectives could be fun. Like 2 or 3 small squads all moving around and having big fights

[valid falcon]

wait pve mode, 12 player lobbies, 12 people in a room, 12 people in a room in inferno

[upper jungle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JX5O3n9K_d0

[tribal yoke]

Why can't you just type squire???

[upper jungle]

Squire, my lovely child!

[dusty coral]

pve mode is such an L update for the health of the game. split the player base even more less than 10k players active and now we have arena , normals, HR, and PVE...

[pastel walrus]

I forgot the squire was an awkward blonde boy

[narrow zinc]

most hated class?

[fleet merlin]

I agree, but considering their dev speed, I'm thinking of what is more realistically possible. For now the current dungeons I don't think they are a good match for more than 5x5 games.

[pastel walrus]

50v50 druid chicken wars

[dusty coral]

this game isnt meant to be easy or to hold your hand that is the joy of dark and darker, adding a pve mode will make all the scrubs go play that instead of accepting there death in the dungeon as meant to be.

[upper jungle]

Bokok!

[fleet merlin]

Yes sir

[tribal yoke]

For my money
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk&pp=ygUOSGFsbyBvZHN0IHJhaW4%3D

[pastel walrus]

We need chicken wars

[narrow zinc]

weak take tbh, sounds like you want more fodder because you're scared of good players taking fights

[valid falcon]

this game is dying fr devs dont know what theyre doing. they should just do what i said and the game will be 10x better

[upper jungle]

I listen to that track regulary

[pastel walrus]

Add that to the list of demands

[dusty coral]

its not a weak take, you take a already low player base and split it more. it just doesnt make sense at all. when the pvp is apart of the game.

[tribal yoke]

Hopefully you listen to it for hope and not sadness

[fluid mason]

Where can I get info for in game event to get cat costumes

[valid falcon]

THEY NEED TO MAKE A DARK AND DARKER MOVIE

[silver smelt]

What should they do

[upper jungle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJjzEEphfM&pp=ygUTcmFpbiBPRFNUIHdpdGggcmFpbg%3D%3D

[valid falcon]

6v6 and casino

[pastel walrus]

In the movie they should treat rat rogues like second class citizens

[tribal yoke]

Campfife is a good touch👌

[tribal yoke]

gambling!!!!!🎲 🎲 🎲 🎲 🎲 🎲 🎲 🎲

[narrow zinc]

nah this doesn't sound like the take of an actual challenge enjoyer, let the casuals have their fun and supply money to ironmace, those who are good will seek the fights, if you want them in the same place as you it's because you're scared being the worst in the lobby, making a pve will ensure more will come, and those that actually want to fight will still seek it out

[wild marlin]

I... am Expressman! (The audience screams and cheers)

[tribal yoke]

❌

[tribal yoke]

People came for otto

[upper jungle]

Can't go wrong with rain ☔

[valid falcon]

WE NEED TO PETITION TO INSTALL 6 v 6 AND CASINO FOR GAMBLING + WILL HELP THE ECONOMY UNTIL WE GET TARIFFED BY CHINESE PLAYERS

[brazen grove]

you can only type like that if you havent played half a wipe in 225+ EU HR lobbies ( it sucks)

[dusty coral]

pve mode will split player base more = dead lobbies which in turn = people uninstalling the game because its become stale and boring.

[narrow zinc]

correct, I don't live in europe

[dusty coral]

who really gets on dark and darker and plays it just to play the pve aspect and not the pvp? like bruh go play skyrim lol

[fluid mason]

Anyone know what I gotta do to get the cat custom or is it not available yet

[narrow zinc]

more players = larger playerbase, anyone who runs to the pve mode wouldn't have been an actual competitor and anyone worth fighting doesn't want to just do pve, hence this is a weakling take

[pastel walrus]

Can we add in game CIA agents to destabilize the economy

[fleet merlin]

People will just burn out all there is PVE content-wise at a 10x rate
And PVE content is the thing they develop at the slowest speed.

They should focus on their end content, which right now is arena, and I think that will always be end content.

Unless they add Seasonal raid bosses for 13 people where you've got to go with the best gear you've got.

[valid falcon]

I HAVE A IDEA | IM ACTUALLY ABOUT TO COOK

2 LIVES IN THE DUNGEON

[fleet merlin]

Nah bro, don't make it even easier

[prime crypt]

who really gets on dark and darker and plays it just to play the pvp aspect and not the pve? like bruh go play fortnite lol

[upper jungle]

Oooh, big raid would be fun as heck

[pastel walrus]

Second life you get a tracker to the person that killed you so you can run it back

[upper jungle]

[wild marlin]

you might have a point

[prime crypt]

[brazen grove]

it goes both ways, the game is great because it is PvPvE

[valid falcon]

2 lives, less empty lobbies and more people in dungeons

[prime crypt]

Hard agree

[upper jungle]

[dusty coral]

i play it for both thats why i like dark and darker, its the only pvp game out there with loot that you aint really gotta worry about cheaters. Coming from EFT that is what drives me and my group to play this game, PVE mode is literally no challenge at all lol.

[narrow zinc]

exactly, if anything the PVE mode will just train people to be more prepared for the pvpve one

[valid falcon]

nah they gotta learn the hard way like i did

[narrow zinc]

which equals a larger playerbase being actually invested by virtue of greater accessability

[pastel walrus]

The CIA assassinated the original Expressman, this new one is a puppet in his place and well sell your information to the United States government

[brazen grove]

dont think so

[dusty coral]

IDK why you think pve will grow the playerbase, It will not lol.

[narrow zinc]

why not? if people get good at the pve, they will seek out the pvp mode as well

[valid falcon]

they just need no gear pvp mode and no gear pve mode

[tribal yoke]

BROKEN GLITCH

If you play with another person, the game glitches out and some code from older playtest appears on your chest that teammates can take off

Now some old structures are also glitched in general and if you bring this code you can get another life

[upper jungle]

It's a weather ballon

[narrow zinc]

wrong but go off queen

[cloud musk]

there's plenty of new players excited for it who wouldn't play otherwise

[dusty coral]

why are you calling me a queen are you ok? am i insulting you?

[tribal yoke]

🤫

[narrow zinc]

why is that an insult? you okay?

[dusty coral]

because im clearly not a queen

bird MAN?

[brazen grove]

that doenst change the fact that they gonna remove GS brackets and the guy that needs or plays pve mode cant ever compete with me or anyone that reguarly plays trio HR like the streamers, sweats etc dont you understand that?

[narrow zinc]

why not?

[pastel walrus]

Okay princess

[charred veldt]

It will alright, I will be coming back because of PVE mode (only thing that brings me joy in this game is bossing and it is SO HORRIBLE to learn bosses in normals when you die the first 30 seconds)

[wild marlin]

making predictions on a mode that isn't out yet and making it seem like a fact is wild

[valid falcon]

NGL THEY FKED UP WHEN THEY MADE THE GAME FOR FREE AND DIDNT CAPITALIZE ON IT

[subtle goblet]

did you just assume someones gender?!?!

[narrow zinc]

it'll get them started, which is the hardest part

[valid falcon]

50k PLAYERS TO NOW 10K

[narrow zinc]

did you? I just said go off queen why are you assuming this is gendered?

cringe tbh

[pastel walrus]

Wait everyone let me cook

[mortal adder]

did they said something about adding pets?

[dusty coral]

going back in forth with you is pointless but pve mode = death of a game we all love watch this wipe is the guillotine. Adding a mode literally nobody asked for.

[charred veldt]

and I am NOT an easy quitter, in fact I bet my buttcheeks I can stand more than most people present (I died 180 times to spectral knight trying to fight him point black with rogue), Lich is much easier but I am not spending 20 minutes per reset

[fleet merlin]

It will give them some map layout knowledge, mob swings, but it's not prepping you for a PVP at all.

You need to understand how other classes work, their strengths, and weakneses.
Where they're at an advantage, when to engage. How to prepare before a fight, to push a door or to wait to be pushed.
All of these things and more you can't learn in PVE

The PVE is not preparing you for anything PVP, just burns out the PVE Game faster, people will stay there and never get into the core game xD

[subtle goblet]

I should be a fisherman, caught me a flounder with low tier bait

[charred veldt]

people complaining about pve had it easy

[valid falcon]

nah pve helps with pvp fs

[tribal yoke]

Lets be nicer yall🫂

[charred veldt]

no

[valid falcon]

i use mobs to parry and kill people

[narrow zinc]

people have been saying that for every decision ironmace has made tbh, but go crazy Nostradamus

[tribal yoke]

YES

[narrow zinc]

lol

[dusty coral]

and look at the player count :/ i mean proof in the pudding

[pastel walrus]

What If we all adopted our own goblins and made them fight to the death in a pit and we could place bets on whose gob would win

[fleet merlin]

Bro, there wasn't any time as easier as the current version of the game :)))

[brazen grove]

you are right but still to learn the bosses you dont need a pve mode something like a little test area would be enough

[charred veldt]

for bossing? get real buddy

[narrow zinc]

I wasn't even fishing for you and yet here we are lmao

[plush owl]

lovw the idea

[charred veldt]

either pve mode or test arena whatever is fine with me

[fair escarp]

This has probably been asked a fair bit but when is wipe?

[subtle goblet]

aiyah, carry on

[dusty coral]

today.

[charred veldt]

but people with pvp burnout can play pve until they go back in pvp

[fleet merlin]

Bossing shouldn't be easy

[charred veldt]

bro

listen here

I died 180 times learning spectral knight

[fair escarp]

Has it happened yet?

[cloud musk]

the same ppl that play hr will still play hr + more, so if anything its gonna be the opposite

[charred veldt]

on point blank range with rogue

only boss in the game I haven't beaten is warlord

I gave it 20 attempts

[narrow zinc]

correct!

[mossy wing]

10th april 3pm kst

[fleet merlin]

I actually died more than that xD

[charred veldt]

no more because it is actual garbage to find

and it is WAY easier than spectral knight

[dusty coral]

na cause this wipe the lobbies are gonna be a ghost fricken town dude, we got normals , 2 tiers of highroller, arena, And now a pve mode lmao

[charred veldt]

but with the 50%, random 5x5 map and reduced fog I gave up

[valid falcon]

if u can kill spectral knight ur better than half the player base

[dusty coral]

they already were empty asf mid wipe on NA servers

[fleet merlin]

Try it in HR, the normal one, sure it's easier

[charred veldt]

I killed it in HR

too

[dusty coral]

persistent lobbies too cant forget that

[charred veldt]

10% action speed a little hard to get used to but nothing like warlord

[tribal yoke]

[valid falcon]

did u kill it using rogue and only ur fist?

i thought so

[brazen grove]

instead of delaying rank grind to a point where like half of the players already quit the wipe they could actually use it and make it something for the sweats use it as matchmaking tool or anything in the direction to separate sweats from newer players

[cloud musk]

they could add 10 normal dungeon queues bro, hr players still queue hr, players that would play pve mode wouldn't queue hr either way, ur complaining about losing players u would never meet.

[narrow zinc]

acting like an end of the world forecaster smh, imagine caring that much while putting in that little thought lmao

[charred veldt]

the issue with spectral knight is that if you dodge at point blank you have to face and stand a certain way or your head gets chopped regardless if you duck the mid swing

[dusty coral]

Tbh i dont even play HR after the recent update not getting kit back on death. I just go bis down to the ground 124. 10k kits

[charred veldt]

also the low swing, I learned it by jumping against the boss instead of away from it, which is WAY harder

[zenith summit]

is there an actual guide on how to get twitch drops

[charred veldt]

use twitch

[fleet merlin]

They should have made bossing adapt to the queue number. Not add PVE mode. Add different variations of the bosses.
For example, why is lich spawning 10 mobs when I want to do it solo.

But I think I'm asking for too much

[dusty coral]

you must not play NA

[narrow zinc]

lmao complaining about HR being dead, doesn't play HR, part of the problem imo

[pastel walrus]

🥀

[brazen grove]

god design just like the black axemen i dont want to know how many people quit after meeting that skeleton. then they actually fixed his animation but thought: nah thats too easy add the old one back that is barely dodgeable with slow classes 🙂

[narrow zinc]

nah I do, got to demigod then vibed in arena

[zenith summit]

😔

[dusty coral]

224 hr is dead go na east gob caves its empty

[narrow zinc]

then they made demi free but oh well

[pastel walrus]

Just watch dark and darker streams on twitch

[narrow zinc]

right now? no wonder dude everyones waiting for wipe

[pastel walrus]

And it’ll go to your twitch notifs and you can redeem from there

[dusty coral]

its been like that for a month or 2 no bullshit.

man i love this game i just dont wanna see it die :/ and each wipe it gets more towards that way

[fleet merlin]

Anyways, we're just wasting time here, go make yourself a coffee, read a book, touch some grass, prefferably enjoy all 3 at the same time

[cloud musk]

cuz na has 2 servers of <224, just go 225+ if u want players, more chances

[dusty coral]

i wish i could drink coffee just had surgery on my tonsils

[narrow zinc]

nah I was playing HR a month ago there was plenty of people

[wild marlin]

ngl, PvE just seems like it'll be a fun, chill mode to play with friends. Only time will tell if it negatively affects the game

[brazen grove]

wait i just realized they gonna add pve mode but also remove 0-24 and make it 0-124 ONCE AGAIN? sad, but this is really the end of the game

[sacred pollen]

Anyone know what time the wipe actually happens?

[dusty coral]

idk i aint making it up lol im not a demigod maybe all the playerbase was too high rank for me to run into them.

[pastel walrus]

0-124 is a little crazy

[dusty coral]

i just know the lobbies where empty and i got bored so i just went bis 124 rest of wipe

[narrow zinc]

inevitable, too niche with no easy access, will die a mordhau death, unless they find ways to breath new life for new players, which is what PVE is attempting to do, which is a fair try imo

barrier to entry will continue to climb as more people get better, anyone new will always be fighting an uphill battle as it stands

[fleet merlin]

I think bossing should come at a cost for PVE mode. Like you actually have to bring those things that spawn the boss.

Or something as such, being able to farm the bosses with top tier gear without worrying about people is going to burn out the game a lot faster

[dusty coral]

tbh new maps and not releasing game breaking updates and occasional other new content

[narrow zinc]

why not it was actually free

[dusty coral]

pve mode to split a already low playerbase i just dont think is the play.

[narrow zinc]

watch the trailer, there were both new modules and new mechanics not related to pve modes, that it still new and interesting content imo

[pastel walrus]

Buff Sorc

Give Sorc magic missile

[chilly rose]

They need to make crafting alot better, like being able to smelt down sellables or whatever to make component's for crafting, will give them alot more value

[narrow zinc]

you gotta, if you force new players into the same pools without letting them get a running start 90% will not play

[pastel walrus]

4 sec CD magic missile on Sorc

[dusty coral]

we were promised a new map this wipe instead we got pve nobody that currently plays really cares for.

[narrow zinc]

did not know there was a promise, does not change that this is not a bad idea

[dusty coral]

0-24 was literally that though it was pve with light pvp half the time ppl crouch spammed and teamed with you it was a super chill experience.

[cloud musk]

u realise new map means more queues too right?

[narrow zinc]

not the first time ironmace has delayed the hell out of a promise tho, but if I look at how things were at the beginning and how they are now it's alot better imo

[mossy wing]

PvE mode was made by IronMace due to "alot of requests for it" as stated by Odin, I think we will get plenty of players for PvE

[brazen grove]

yeah you are right so nobody will play pve only for long anyway but at the same time they put 0-124 back in? so a guy that was playing pve now gets just w keyed by some 124 min maxer that abuses druid. 10/10 player experience once again. and this exactly why dark and darker is dying

[pastel walrus]

Map rotation was cool

[narrow zinc]

wait they removed 0-24?

[pastel walrus]

At least you’d get in full lobbies every time with a full timers

[narrow zinc]

nah no way that's cooked

that's way worse than pve being added imo lmao

[cloud musk]

how so

[pastel walrus]

Realistically it’s not that crazy

[narrow zinc]

people enjoyed not having to grind out perfect gear to be on a level playing field

[feral totem]

When game wipe

[pastel walrus]

Cause in squire you can still kill a BiS 124

[narrow zinc]

it was their highest pop gamemode, and one of the best casual ways to play

[pastel walrus]

It’s just harder

[narrow zinc]

yes, but I already did that without that mode being removed, forcing people to is lame

[feral totem]

When game wipe

[mossy wing]

10th April 3pm Kst

[feral totem]

Thanks

[chilly rose]

Dno man , a full green max hp plate fighter is pretty tough against the squire set that's like 30hp less

[feral totem]

!!

[glacial wave]

WHENS WIPE?!?!!??!

[narrow zinc]

literally killed name item users with base kit wizard in arena, it's tons of fun but that should not have been default

[cloud musk]

u can legit play pve and run the gear u get from that into 0-124, or just queue without nothing to lose, realistically 0-124 is just 5 items, not that big of a deal

[mossy wing]

#game-discussion message

[glacial wave]

shut yo bitchass up and tell me when wipe is

[pastel walrus]

Just skill gap them

[brazen grove]

obviously you can and i dont really mind but tbh i did a few runs in squire gear getting run down by 124 druids and hatchet barbs 3 times in a row and just quit the game for a day thats even worse than fighting 6 LADS in HR

[rocky girder]

dark and darker wipes on the 10th in Korea, so the 9th in the evening for the westerners

[glacial wave]

WHENSSSSSS WIPEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[pastel walrus]

Dawg

[chilly rose]

Click the blue thing you Jester

[narrow zinc]

the min maxxing is what makes it a problem, 124 is still enough space for cheesy builds in what was originally just a fun casual way to play, people who enjoy having to constantly fight up would just queue highroller with nothing, which in my experience is a blast

but should not be the default

[glacial wave]

who the hell just gave me a warning

reveal urself

[chilly rose]

Me

[pastel walrus]

Are you that cognitively impaired you gargling Oompa Loompa just search the discord yourself for the answer

[glacial wave]

dont do it agian or daddy is gonna get angry

understand?

[pastel walrus]

Mods ban this guy

[glacial wave]

goooooooodboyyyyyyyyy

[rocky girder]

brother doesnt know when to quit while they're down

[mossy wing]

Don't discuss moderation in public, please contact a tavern master for any issues.

[glacial wave]

dont tell me what to do bud.

im my own man

[mossy wing]

bye.

[cloud musk]

what minmax is there to do? first few weeks there isnt even market so no minmaxing there, and its just 5-6 items, totally winnable even naked

[glacial wave]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudeeeeeeeeee

[chilly rose]

Easy as that haha

[glacial wave]

i was joooooookingggggggggggg

[pastel walrus]

Bro really thinks he is him lol

[feral totem]

Those who known

[zinc notch]

Lmao at the bot popping up

[wild marlin]

banned any% speedrun

[chilly rose]

People say they are joking, while not being the slightest bit funny

[ornate kraken]

Did they add a solo self found mode yet? Thought there was talk about it but didn’t see anything

[brazen grove]

seems like you never played 0-124 once i have -add a meta 124 build here- no squire gear guy will ever kill me

[rocky girder]

the first 4 weeks of wipe will be zero market and trading post, effectively being solo self found'

[cloud musk]

and yet minmaxers still die sometimes, how is that possible?

[chilly rose]

The thing is, I go for the 25-124 lobbies for the slightly better pvp loot. If they have a bunch of squires running round, it's not really worth it to kill them

[rocky girder]

YOOOO GUYS ITS APRIL 9th LOVING THE WIPE RN YALL ARE MISSING IT WOOOOO.

[brazen grove]

because this game is not a 1v1 arena?

[ornate kraken]

appreciate it, thanks

That’s neat

[narrow zinc]

tbh everything is totally winnable naked if you have a class with enough skill expression and enough experience, that is not a justifiable reason to remove a rung in the learning process

[cloud musk]

exactly, this means its always winnable😂

[brazen grove]

but it is not

[cloud musk]

i can confidently say minmaxers are timmies farming other timmies, so most of them are very killable👍

[rocky girder]

only sith deal in absolutes.

[narrow zinc]

weak arguments and steven universe pfp, this is a fisher with alot of bait

[brazen grove]

it is about someone running down a squire gear guy with a minmaxed 124 meta build which is basically unplayable for alot of classes straight up

[narrow zinc]

bestie probably does NOT queue highroller naked for pvp

[atomic stream]

what TIME does it normally wipe?

[cloud musk]

what's ur beef with steven lmao?

[narrow zinc]

none, but people who have steven pfps are either insane or baiting 99% of the time

good show when I was a kid tbh

[cloud musk]

speaking of weak arguments..

[narrow zinc]

nah that's 100% experience, you can't call me out on a soul read if I'm right

[cloud musk]

so u really think ppl that minmax <124 are good at the game and unkillable?

[hasty valley]

so what are the restrictions on pve mode as in the loot you can bring later on to pvp mode that we know of? couple new friends will try the game out with me on wipe and im contemplating if i'll take them to pve or pvp. i'd just hate, for my own progresses sake, that i wouldnt progress playing pve

[pallid grove]

When the game will be wiped?

[boreal snow]

Loot that drops is capped at purple from bosses and such and loot you can bring in is uncapped, you can take it all out though

[boreal snow]

3PM April 10th KST as mentioned in the Pinned Messages of #the-tavern

[pallid grove]

Why in tavern though not in anouncement?

[wild marlin]

you can get up to purples, and pve gear will be untradeable apparently

[sinful gull]

self found sounds great next wipe, but im afraid the sweatiest players will trade with each other and make the gear gapping even worse in HR vs new/less invested players

[boreal snow]

I only have a copy paste, I do not make choices, I am just here

[rocky girder]

i highly reccomend looking for Ryan6DaysAWeek's video on Youtube, hes a very informative creator that will get you all the relevant information you want for this wipe. Should be his most recent video.

[hasty valley]

that'd be fine then. as long as i can use the gear i find. thanks guys

[wild marlin]

np, have fun on wipe

[brazen grove]

no they are not. are they unkillable for most people playing 0-24 right now? probably. do they die? yes of course. is it fun to try out a new class getting run down by them? no. some classes have literally zero chance in a 1v1 to win against 124 min maxxed druid ? yes. is anything of this good design? obviously not.

[narrow zinc]

nah I'm saying that it's not fair to force timmies to deal with that, if you actually read what I've been saying you would see that I have consistently said I enjoy these types of fights, what you won't hear is that it is unreasonable to force other people to deal with, but it's pretty clear that you are baiting at this point lmao

[stuck hearth]

what times the wipe? not first one the 6th delayed one

[boreal snow]

3PM April 10th KST as mentioned in the Pinned Messages of #the-tavern

[mossy wing]

Got that on control c + v ?? xD

[boreal snow]

Yes I do

Only so many mods and I have nothing better to do

[mossy wing]

We try our best

[boreal snow]

I know you do boss, no disrespect, I just tilt when I see the question so I figured I could whinge or tell people xD

[gloomy storm]

the pve game mode looked like more then one set of 3 can run around

[boreal snow]

Correct, there will be other players

[gloomy storm]

can we just not hurt each other?

[mossy wing]

No, That's why it's PvE 🙂

[boreal snow]

Seems to be that way, players cannot harm players and there is a lower gear availability

[charred veldt]

guys season 6 trailer is fake

[clear pendant]

im not against 0-124, but i can tell you a mana sphere, full stacked true magical wizard is killing you 100% faster than a full naked wizard or random items 124 one

[charred veldt]

spectral knight should have killed

[brazen grove]

So just a lazy version of an actual PvE mode? I mean yeah they did it because people were requesting it but people were also saying that 0-124 sucks hard they did not care multiple times already

[boreal snow]

The idea is it's a place for casuals and less experienced players to get a foot in the door for Norms

[brazen grove]

So they can get stomped by 124min maxers once again makes sense to me

[boreal snow]

You can get the chance to not do that. They had to reduce the number of lobbies somehow

[hardy stump]

because that's how it is, normal game with normal amount of players, you just can't pvp and can bunch up if you want

[hasty valley]

funny how people always find ways to not like their ideas.

[brazen grove]

funny how the game loses players for months now

[hasty valley]

'oh i can play pvp free? cool! but if i go pvp mode someone who knows the game better will kill me, this game sucks'

[wanton otter]

[hasty valley]

as said millions of times, end of wipe in any game pop drops. its natural.

[gleaming nebula]

L season they’ve added 3 mobs :/

[mossy wing]

7... (cough)

[boreal snow]

There are at least 6 IN THE VIDEO xD

[wanton otter]

he's a german shepard he no count gud

honestly im impressed at the keyboard dexterity

[brazen grove]

as said millions of times its still much lower ( by around 40-60% ) as the last day of the wipe before this one

[hasty valley]

no ones forced to play the game, yet still many do.

[wanton otter]

my favorite model in game is female rogue for being a lil goth cutie with the smallest facial scar.

[brazen grove]

yeah, doesn't change the fact that many dont want the game to die because it is unique but IM doing the same mistakes over and over again. (and it is dying)

[mighty axle]

CONNECTING.....

[wanton otter]

rogues/warlocks should have lil "mom" heart tatoos (on their butt)

[ionic condor]

does anyone know if arena will be open again before wipe?

[mossy wing]

I don't think so

[coarse portal]

Yeah but I can pull two rooms of mobs bring them to you and drink an invisible pot to have a good laugh

[mighty axle]

CONNECTING,,,,

[boreal snow]

Sure, and you can get a whole green kit and some grey pots for your effort

[wanton otter]

all is fair in raid

[boreal snow]

Although this won't be my issue anyway cause I play Warlock

[coarse portal]

Why would I go to pve for loot

[wanton otter]

early wipe, all green kit is pog. :3

[mighty axle]

CONNECTING

[boreal snow]

Well if you're interested in killing players why would you go to PvE?

[wanton otter]

I just like violence i don't care abt your kit

[timber osprey]

NEW SEASON LOOKS SO GAS

[mossy wing]

Please attempt to restart your client and launcher multiple times, that's how some people have fixed that

[mighty axle]

SHUT THE

[wanton otter]

i wanted your last moments

[mighty axle]

PVP GAMER

ONLY

[coarse portal]

But I'm not killing them

[hasty valley]

yeah, its an amazing game. i just dont get it myself how bitching in a public discord will do anything about it (not talking specifically about you). so many cry here into the void instead of doing something else they enjoy if the game isnt it at the moment

[wanton otter]

maybe Im in the dungeon looking for romance you don't kno' ppl have different needs

[brazen grove]

because it is kinda obvious for many what mistakes they make and this discord is the only way to get it out so maybe it gets better in the future? basically also the reason they bring PvE mode for example?

[coarse portal]

I'm just playing I won't be doing that but I know people will

[wanton otter]

maybe I reaaaaally like picking flowers.

You get achievements for key crafting metal lockpicks and it has milestones. s'honest livin'

[boreal snow]

Sure, and you'll have plenty of PvP only streamers finding new ways to kill Timmies for laughs but that's generally gonna be unavoidable unless it's bannable which would be kind of nuts given the game as is

[mighty axle]

lol

yall are weak

[wanton otter]

Yeah yall.

[boreal snow]

y'all

[coarse portal]

I don't care for pve as long as they can't bring that gear over to pvp and sell it. That shouldn't be a thing

[wanton otter]

y'ain't'd've

[mighty axle]

CONNACTING

[boreal snow]

They can bring the gear they can't sell it

Or rather can't trade it

[mighty axle]

gg noops

[zealous marten]

are achievements getting wiped on the 10th?

[wanton otter]

mods can time me out for that, i get it

[boreal snow]

THAT is a question I actually have no answer for

[wanton otter]

I think achievemts are permanent..

[coarse portal]

Yeah because now that normals and HR brackets are going to be 0-124 the price of BIS greens are going to sky rocket just like they did before

[wanton otter]

different market, different price eh?

greens go hard.

[mighty axle]

yall would get clapped

[mossy wing]

wat

[mighty axle]

lovely is a fairy

[ionic condor]

will arena be open again?

[boreal snow]

I mean they might except if you have a 0-124 HR Lobby people are just gonna go in naked and make bank regardless with loot how it is rn

[wanton otter]

🧚‍♀️ (u got me)

I'll update your questlog for u

[coarse portal]

Yeah but I only play HR for the AP grind after that no point going back. Unless you're faming boss

[boreal snow]

All I do is farm bosses for the disappointment of having literally never seen a named drop xD

[wanton otter]

I got a zirks once

and some named mobs

[winter badge]

how long does patch usually take into affect after leaderboard count? seems like 6 hours from my reddit deep dives, what yall think

[boreal snow]

I saw a Zirks once in like my first 10 games and I didn't know what it was, died like 9 seconds later

[wanton otter]

Named skeleton didnt have a unique (sadchamp)

[brazen pebble]

are servers down?

[boreal snow]

Never seen a named mob either

[boreal snow]

No

[boreal snow]

Patch is 3PM April 10th KST as mentioned in the Pinned Messages of #the-tavern

As for when it will actually be live and playable between 2 and 5 hours after that if there are normal maintanence issues

[wanton otter]

new mobs, mebbe updated moves for oldt mobs. (i was rly surprised when a basic zwei skele went for the low dragging sweep)

[boreal snow]

Definitely at least 2 new attacks I saw in there, likely more if they've shown that

[last sparrow]

[wanton otter]

I would love a different spear in the game. We got like 5+ maces and several axes, but like 1 spear type. Where are my retrievalble throwing javelins and short spear?

[boreal snow]

Short spear for SURE would go hard as hell, give it a sweeping attack or two and make it fast

[wanton otter]

Where's my shield that has a lil slot for my spear

[brazen grove]

To much work

[wanton otter]

I would agree with you, but the lantern shield exists

that thing is complex

[boreal snow]

Does it though?

Does it really?

[brazen grove]

kinda, but now think about how many new weapon types came out and how long it took them to add the shield

[wanton otter]

has a light, a parry (two attacks), a separate bash animation for fighter, exellent modeling, and it's historically accurate.

[karmic zealot]

what are the opinions on the pve mode

[wanton otter]

They kinda went nuts on lantern shield, I won't agree that a shield with a notch is too much work

[boreal snow]

Mixed, PvP andies hate that they won't have Timmies to diddle and casuals like that there's finally an entry level for the game

[brazen grove]

Maybe next year when another weapon type comes out

[wanton otter]

Im thinkin' punch stuff for monk, and mebbe a scimitar comes out

[boreal snow]

Yes, and some ridiculous move speed garbage that will make me hate my life

It will be cool, it will make me want to expire

[wanton otter]

Lightfoot boots best shoe.

who needs stats when run fast

[arctic mortar]

when is wipe?

[boreal snow]

3PM April 10th KST as mentioned in the Pinned Messages of #the-tavern

[wanton otter]

just gem a good pair of lightfoots and you're golden

[arctic mortar]

oh its in the tavern ok

thank u kid sir

[brazen grove]

yeah thats why 0-124 will be back

[wanton otter]

124 gonna be tiiiight

toxic but tight

[boreal snow]

Is HR Gear Bracket unchanged?

[wanton otter]

ppl will spam the flavor of the weak

[subtle heart]

Is it always gonna be random dunegons?

[boreal snow]

The flavor is going to be Bonk Cleric

[wanton otter]

ye

[subtle heart]

Why?

[wanton otter]

some maps arent updated tho

[boreal snow]

And after that it will be Rogue, and then it will be Barb, and then Bonk Cleric, and around and round we go

[wanton otter]

if ppl memorize every lil thing the game gets boring.

[cerulean crypt]

Bonk Cleric has too many bad MUs

[wanton otter]

is it range?

[cerulean crypt]

Well, that and pushes

[boreal snow]

Ranger and Sorc doesn't seem like too many when they don't really exist in Solos

[cerulean crypt]

Sorc was pretty popular in solos in my experience

[boreal snow]

I mean, solo is all I play and unless I'm in 225HR Ruins, I don't see them, and they don't go down

[cerulean crypt]

Honestly the only classes that Melee Cleric has a good MU against are Barb and PDR Fighter

It's nice to be able to beat Melee Classes at their own game but it's not worth the headache imo

[boreal snow]

Barb, Fighter, Rogue, and Bard all get walked down it's all I've been doing this week and the ONLY fight I've lost was a bised out Warlock who was never in range for Judgement

[cerulean crypt]

Rogue just backs up and throws knives. Bard just backs up and shoots you with Surv bow

[boreal snow]

Idk about Druid because those fights have all ended in the Druid ratting out

Which is what Shield and Judgement are for

[cerulean crypt]

Druid MU is probably neutral in the sense that they can't kill you and you can't kill them

Judgement? lmao wait

When you say Bonk Cleric you're using Judgement?

[boreal snow]

Smite Judgement is what I use

Used*

[cerulean crypt]

Yeah you have 0 winning MUs then

PDR Fighter and Barb just win the melee fight

[boreal snow]

Has not been my experience

[cerulean crypt]

SmiteProt is the only way to out-melee those classes with Cleric

Judgement is kind-of a meme

If a class is fast enough to run away from you they won't get hit by Judgement. If they are slow they're not going to lose in melee without Prot

Unless you outgear really hard

[brazen grove]

Fighter is kinda free unless it is a longsword psycho and barb too unless he has a war maul

[boreal snow]

I certainly am not outgearing in my lobbies but I have had no issues running over people with that set up

[cerulean crypt]

Morning Star is one of the hardest weapons in the game to parry

Cleric has no trouble dealing with LS

[brazen grove]

what?

[cerulean crypt]

It is

It's crazy good at getting past parry

[violet sentinel]

im done for this wipe, anyone want free artifacts n shid?

[brazen grove]

I dont think i have ever won with a morning star against a geared longsword

like ever

[violet sentinel]

DoctorChoppa in trade post if anyone wants one

[boreal snow]

Whatchu got

[violet sentinel]

cinder lad zirk spellweaver

[cerulean crypt]

There's an element of skill to it but I dunno if you saw the Fighter 1v1 event or anything but LS parry loses pretty hard to Morning Star and Rondel Dagger

Funny thing is Morning Star is so good Fighters ran it despite the 5% damage loss. Not sure if it'd still be chosen given they increased it to 10%

[boreal snow]

You're a king

[violet sentinel]

yessir

[boreal snow]

Legit the first Named I've had in my inventory xD

[brazen grove]

Rondel sure, but Morning star? 180 crouch parry killed me so many times

[outer tide]

how long will the wipe take any guesses?

[cerulean crypt]

You can position the attack so it basically can't get parried no matter what they do. It's hard to describe in words but you can feel it when using the weapon imo

[patent blaze]

tmrw

[outer tide]

i mean after timer runs out

thats 2 am for me but im guessing they push it

[cerulean crypt]

I ran Morning Star on my Fighter specifically to avoid getting parried

And well, because it's an insanely good weapon

But I haven't played since last patch

[arctic laurel]

why have they released a announcement for the trailer but its unavailable ahaha

[cerulean crypt]

10% debuff might be too much

[boreal snow]

3PM April 10th KST as mentioned in the Pinned Messages of #the-tavern

[outer tide]

so you belive the game is up by 3pm

lol

[arctic laurel]

Can anyone else see the trailer or is it just me who cant

[boreal snow]

Korean time

[brazen grove]

what 1v1 event are you talking about the ones i found no one even used longsword vs morning star

[outer tide]

watch it on yt

[cerulean crypt]

Nobody uses Longsword in that event. That was my point.

[arctic laurel]

yeah it wont let me, says video unavilable

[cerulean crypt]

The guy that won was asked about why nobody used LS and he said because you'd just lose against Rondel or Morning Star

[brazen grove]

So i looked it up and call it BS

[cerulean crypt]

You can disagree with their takes and mine but it is true nobody in that event ran LS.

If it was such a good answer to Morning Star, which was the weapon used by both 1st and 2nd place, you'd expect it to see use.

[brazen grove]

Not really because it is auto lose vs rondel

I am not even a good LS user and was never killed by a morning star unless i trolled and lost every fight vs a good LS

[cerulean crypt]

Hm. Fair enough I suppose. But the reasoning given by the player that won included Morning Star.

[marsh tangle]

Why did all my ranks get deleted?

[boreal snow]

Wipe tomorrow

[marsh tangle]

So are the ranks just not showing or?

[boreal snow]

No they will be reset since the season has ended

[cerulean crypt]

The quote from the player who won was
"Commenter: "wonder why nobody ran longsword"
Player: "anyone with a dagger or Morningstar would just instantly win""

[marsh tangle]

Will be or have been?

Because I was Pathfinder on fighter and now its back down to nothing

I grinded for a month got pathfinder stopped playing heard new wipe was coming out wanted to check stuff and my ranked progress is just gone.

[boreal snow]

You are unable to rank up currently as the season has ended so until the new AP season starts you won't have any rank

[marsh tangle]

But the old rank is saved or?

It shows me as having no rank

[boreal snow]

For rewards? Yes

[marsh tangle]

Because it shows this

[brazen grove]

Actually might be true in a fighter vs fighter scenario due to faster block but no so much as a cleric vs fighter

[cerulean crypt]

My main experience with Morning Star was on my melee Druid. I pretty much exclusively played Melee Druid last season until they nerfed Life Bloom Aura. I found it very easy to avoid being parried when I used Morning Star.

I switched to melee Cleric after the nerf and continued having no issue avoiding LS parry with Morning Star.

That's just personal experience though.

[wanton otter]

morning star seems to be the popular choice.

I wish the club were a bit lighter for being weaker

[cerulean crypt]

Morning Star imo is one of the best weapons in the game

Really good reach, very generous sweet/sour spots, good slowdown, good damage, very active attacks and really good attack angles

[brazen grove]

Probably only me runs into a guy doing a 180 crouch block into headshot parry multiple times already, i guess

[atomic fossil]

Go to Leader board , change settings: to Exemple Hr- solos sasion... than you can see youre old Rank and the things you get from next sasion 🙂 all is safed

[simple python]

anyone has an idea how to migrate my blacksmith acc to steam?

[marsh tangle]

Aight ty

[noble compass]

whens the wipe exactly?

[shadow crypt]

15mins

[mossy wing]

Imagine flexin on people with that emote

[cerulean crypt]

It is. It's such a good weapon.

[mossy wing]

This wipe might just slap, slap

[simple python]

svensk :D

[small dust]

What time yall think next season going to start?

[wanton otter]

after wipe I imagine

[tame oxide]

3pm kst +9h

[wanton otter]

;3

[zinc sparrow]

That is when the servers go down

[tame oxide]

Season? Uhh add 3 weeks to it

[wanton otter]

oh it captain.

[tame oxide]

Yeah I was guessing the downtime started at 3pm so it'd be over after 9 hours

[twilit cypress]

game died right? 5k ppl online

[hardy stump]

literal wipe tomorrow, doomers aren't even trying anymore

[coral thistle]

Bait/10 try harder

[twilit cypress]

wipe tmr?

[mossy wing]

Wipe is set for 10th April 3pm kst 🙂

[twilit cypress]

so the in game timer is wrong?

[celest imp]

we cannot gain ap anymore in high roller?

[mossy wing]

Hey graysun 🫂💖

[worldly kayak]

Can we just wipe rn?

[silver smelt]

lol graysun is back

[mental stratus]

is 47% ban/report rate good?

[silver smelt]

Expand Map-Specific Effects and Add Ways to Fight Them
Map-specific effects currently occur at the end of every match, such as Ruin's curse, Ice Cavern freezing, and Crypt's swarm. Why not have these effects begin at the start of the match, but with reduced intensity, not causing damage as they do now, and offering players ways to counter them?

Example:

• Ice Cavern could have a slow freezing mechanic, very slowly reducing a player's action and movement speed with each passing minute. Hanging braziers and fireplaces scattered around the map could protect players from freezing. Lighting a campfire, easily craftable warm gear, or a special antifreezing potion could also shield players from the cold.

I think such effects should be limited to the lower levels of the dungeon to reflect the increasing difficulty, while High Roller mode could amplify them to replace the current Circle Swarm mechanic.

upvote? <-

[mossy wing]

Very busy for the wipe 😄 I think

[trim fox]

I wonder how many people are still stuck on epic

[silver smelt]

makes sense. new trailer looks sick

[hexed shell]

yoooooo this trailer 🔥 🔥

the worm can jump now potroasters will love this

[runic badge]

which server is most populated at this time? cant find anyone in duos europe

[timber osprey]

Ik us east usually has players

[runic badge]

kk ty

[quick trail]

east asia(tokyo) is pretty busy around now, 630p here in tokyo. most players from china get put on this server too so its very busy

[mossy wing]

Parry the worm

[runic badge]

thanks

[abstract veldt]

we should remove market place

or while youre selling item it randoms all stats

[silver smelt]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/627289/reduce-item-base-stats-when-no-longer-selffound

[silver smelt]

make your own suggestion

[abstract veldt]

nah, idt i have to

[silver smelt]

dawaj

[wispy scaffold]

wheere is everyohe pvp right now

[rocky girder]

saving their wrists from carpal tunnel until tomorrow when the flood gates open and wipe hits

[finite sundial]

to cleric players: is it viable going for 46 mem cap for double spell skills? can go to 28 with full knowledge squire but still need a lot

[hardy stump]

around wyvern, trust me

[solar sage]

Soooo why are we removing the feedback emojii's from announcements?

Hiding it dosent change public opinion.

We got objectively 0 new content this wipe.

[winter marlin]

^this is a quite good idea

[hardy stump]

-new merchant
-pve mode
-new bosses, sub bosses and mobs
-new crafting items
"wE gEt No NeW cOnTeNt" -insert appropriate spongebob image here

[silver smelt]

have you not seen the trailer?

[mossy wing]

I'd like to know your perspective on how you got to that conclusion 🙂

[mild sinew]

new bosses? trailer only showed sub bosses

[solar sage]

Kool.
5 months for those btw, still no new map.no new weapons,nothing.

[mild sinew]

bro doesnt know about the lawsuit going on for a year now

[fierce jolt]

bro is mad because he cant klown emoji to the news, because he feels good letting devs who are working for the game he plays, that he would do it better

[hardy stump]

btw, PvE is normals difficulty only, isn't it?

[tired furnace]

new ruins hell mobs will also be in ice abyss hell?

[hardy stump]

why hell mobs would be outside of hell?

[acoustic sage]

How long until season 6 actually comes out?

[hardy stump]

on the dawn of 3rd day, look east

[eternal lily]

And call upon the name of the one beholding “the vision”, he will tell you the secrets

[solid mist]

when is the wipe in EST time?

CET*

[eternal lily]

on the dawn of 3rd day, look east. And call upon the name of the one beholding “the vision”, he will tell you it’s secrets

[solid mist]

bro...

[eternal lily]

Check pins vro… 😿 (in general)

[winged dirge]

💀

[acoustic sage]

I'm still lost

[hardy stump]

is it because of fog of war?

[acoustic sage]

Maybe

[solar sage]

Prismatic tower,game is still in playtest and has more features than dark after 3 years of development

[acoustic sage]

Go play it then rather then "wasting your time" here.

[subtle goblet]

Damn bro thats like half a year of content right there

[fierce jolt]

doesnt justify you posting shitty and fake observations

[solar sage]

Try it,its really good (the spellcasting needs a lil work)

[solar sage]

Dosent justify removing the feedback emojii teehee

[acoustic sage]

I might do at some point tbf currently interested in the upcoming wipe as I'm overall new and this is my 1st wipe but after that if game gets a bit stale I might look into it.

[subtle goblet]

Most dark and darker players are NPCs they don't know the meaning of "try something different without shitting on it and gatekeeping the genre"

[hardy stump]

yeah, like 3 classes with 2 skills and no ability to swap them out, or completely empty talent tree, sooooo much more features

[solar sage]

Its in playtest,dosent have pvp quite yet but honestly the visual is really interesting,lotsa neons,vey bold in todays "gritty realistic" graphic meta

[solar sage]

They have a roadmap.

Already better than the real thing just sayin

[acoustic sage]

Ah fair enough it'd probably be something I check out when pvp is there then.

[fierce jolt]

go posting reactions on that discord, be useful

[strong coyote]

Has anyone linked blacksmith with twitch ????

[solar sage]

Oh naur a whole 2k people wont try it-
Ah thats a bummer

[acoustic sage]

Since I can't see to far is there a way i could see if wipe is within 20 hours?

[silk trellis]

There is at least 6-8k returning players on steam

[solar sage]

I think people arent smart enought to get that negative feedback is the only thing that provokes change here.

Patch 69 wasnt reverted with kind words and compliments to the dev team

Wish it could have, but it don't work that way'

[silver smelt]

such a cool game and it's free its insane

[fierce jolt]

yeah smart people use klown emoji on devs notes and then go to discord and says something like 'objetively 0 new content', sure you're making a diference

[solar sage]

My pleasure,always happy to help :3

[tame fjord]

This game is not free, 70% of stuff is locked behind a paywall

[silver smelt]

its free
I regret buying the game

[fierce jolt]

I think people arent smart enought to get that negative feedback is the only thing that provokes change here.

[tame fjord]

I know it's free but everything is behind legendary status

[acoustic sage]

For a free model though it's quite good.

[brisk urchin]

1500g boots o under 24s is crazy