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subtle heart
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I hit vanquisher 1 and had fun this past week once I got my hands on some named weapons

prime crypt
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That’s fine, but the point is they’ve made a mode that takes people OUT of the dungeon, which is a dungeon crawler

cloud spoke
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where can i find ale and lifeleafs?

subtle heart
lilac ether
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LEts just bring arena back till wipe

spark tiger
hard sierra
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Anyone else having issues conneceting currently?

subtle heart
tribal yoke
subtle heart
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You literally could have made several peoples days by just handing stuff out to poor people in trade chat, but you made this boring cringe video instead.

tribal yoke
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Wait nevermind

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NOT THE PEAR

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And the muffin anguish anguish anguish

subtle heart
tribal yoke
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He obviously wasn't going to play raidsnotlikethis

subtle heart
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there was 1000 ways to make some actual content out of all that loot, but instead he released the equivalent of low quality DnD snuff film

subtle heart
tribal yoke
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What if you join the games then leave them across the groundthis schrodingers gear

tribal yoke
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Who knows if anyone found them

subtle heart
winter dune
tribal yoke
subtle heart
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I think that's the first youtube video I've ever down voted

lilac ether
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Lets just bring arena back till wipe

tribal yoke
winter dune
subtle heart
subtle heart
spark tiger
tribal yoke
subtle heart
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ur prob the illusory sorc talking shit in game constantly while you beam people from no where

winter dune
formal grotto
inner egret
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I mean let’s be honest tho illusory sorc is cancer and shouldn’t be in the game
Unique arena is not a fun version of the game tbh disagree if you want but idc its just objectively lame

subtle heart
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All the trolls crawling out of their lairs right now

formal grotto
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not the point. Swuids mad because someone sold their inventory. Comparing it to a snuff film.

winter dune
formal grotto
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INSANE by the way

subtle heart
winter dune
formal grotto
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get yo money up foo

subtle heart
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lol just proving my point about all the trolls. Another one for the block list

tribal yoke
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Look everyone has their own way to play.

And everyone has the right to do so

formal grotto
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For real is the servers falling apart for anyone else? I keep getting dced mid raid and everything is all laggy. Buddies having tyhe same issue. West coast NA

winter dune
balmy owl
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EyesShakeRight 오픈 아레나

subtle heart
inner egret
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The servers for this game went down in quality 2-3 patches ago that’s just facts

lilac ether
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Lets just bring arena back till wipe

formal grotto
tribal yoke
rapid cloud
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so is the game going to last with them losing the lawsuit??

formal grotto
inner egret
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I mean it is lame content tbh
It’s like the YouTubers who buy a tv and smash it type shit type shit

But squid getting a little too emotional about it tbh like it’s a shitty little video who cares

formal grotto
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Exactly

spark tiger
subtle heart
upbeat crest
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whats the point playing now since they removed arena???

winter dune
tribal yoke
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Fair enough

Alright let's drop the subject, no good will come from this

spark tiger
formal grotto
spark tiger
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lol

balmy owl
spark tiger
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i hoped for this @formal grotto

inner egret
spark tiger
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rage bait success

inner egret
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Actually I kinda do wish that for you

formal grotto
spark tiger
subtle heart
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Some people just want to watch the world burn

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and the majority of them are gamers

winged herald
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warlord STILL BUGGED stuck in cage permanently even after its broken. why waste time building kits or even playing

inner egret
upbeat crest
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L devs, should've kept arena till wipe

winter dune
formal grotto
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ANyone else not really like arena?

spark tiger
balmy owl
formal grotto
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I mean I enjoy watching everyone else play it. I just like looting too much

inner egret
balmy owl
formal grotto
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Tomaeto Tomahto

spark tiger
balmy owl
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Guy selling inv is as a bad as Isis

spark tiger
subtle heart
inner egret
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Yall doing squid wrong here tho he obviously didn’t literally mean it’s equivalent to a snuff film let’s be better guys

winter dune
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Just to be clear this is a video game ladies

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Don’t get it twisted

subtle heart
spark tiger
subtle heart
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you gotta remove negativity from your life or else you get consumed by it and become trolls like them

formal grotto
subtle heart
formal grotto
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Meta commentary - no he didnt say that.

balmy owl
formal grotto
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bens thoughts - peanut butter and cinnamon and honey is great on bread

tribal yoke
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I'm not getting into specifics about this

winter dune
balmy owl
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Who thinks they should bring back Arenas ?

lilac ether
balmy owl
lilac ether
upbeat crest
tribal yoke
balmy owl
lilac ether
winter dune
lilac ether
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I joke i joke

tribal yoke
formal grotto
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Im probably the most humble person I have ever seen personally.\

balmy owl
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🙏

inner egret
tribal yoke
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I jest i jest👑

formal grotto
finite yoke
coral thistle
tribal yoke
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Bait for the fishes?

inner egret
formal grotto
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🫡

tribal yoke
spark tiger
tribal yoke
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Yeah will how did you get most of that gear

subtle heart
spark tiger
inner egret
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He said it right there

coral thistle
tribal yoke
inner egret
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It’s a classic wow trope

opal patrol
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How much time in arenas

inner egret
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You just tell people you’re a merchant

coral thistle
tribal yoke
winter dune
spark tiger
tribal yoke
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Id say just combine more rogue perks

opal patrol
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I tried most named items through market manipulation

tribal yoke
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If anything might as well add subclass perks/ mega perks

subtle heart
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No named items for first week and no market for first month of wipe? @tribal yoke

lilac ether
subtle heart
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Is this true?

subtle heart
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Awful update 😂

tribal yoke
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I dont know 100% but I know it was talked about in the podcast

opal patrol
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Nah just some loaded people who sit in trade that aren’t afraid of losing value knowing it’s end of wipe

subtle heart
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That’s crazy

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Why even add that, no point in farming hr bosses

tribal yoke
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Gotta make your own fortune🫰

subtle heart
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So now it’s just farming keys instead? Lame

tribal yoke
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Though I don't remember anything about no named weapons first week max?

subtle heart
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Oh fr?

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That’s all I cared about honestly

tribal yoke
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But again I know as much as you so don't quote me

subtle heart
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Legit zero point in playing the game right now, next wipe is looking extremely grim

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Spawning bosses is kinda an L ngl

winter dune
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I agree

tribal yoke
next harbor
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OPEN ARENA AND I WILL BUY 5 RED SHARDS

subtle heart
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People wanna try doing hr bosses how will they if they need to pay everything to spawn it

tribal yoke
subtle heart
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Like that’s gonna be wild to learn

winter dune
lilac ether
inner egret
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Is the spawning bosses thing actually going to be in?

tribal yoke
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Idk i dont personally like having to bring sub boss drops to summon if that's how it's done

Id just prefer like having to summon the boss via maybe pve kills?

So people CANT just rush boss room.

Maybe even buff that and make it so you need a certain number of pve kills go access the boss room this

next harbor
lilac ether
next harbor
subtle heart
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@glad thunder stop letting ur game drown

lilac ether
calm barn
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I transferred my Epic Games account to Blacksmith since I had the legendary edition (was free on Epic), can I now transfer to Steam? I started the game up and it said legacy blacksmith users can transfer to Steam

lilac ether
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Lets just bring arena back till wipe

eager prawn
upbeat sun
hasty ice
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3 days till pve Joy1

eager prawn
chrome swift
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Ironmace needs to figure out cheating holy shit, I am quitting next season if its not talked about, am tired of chinese names barbarians with reach and action speed hacks running me down

eager prawn
upbeat sun
hasty ice
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I played with a ranger today he wasn't cheating he missed shots and made mistakes ended up facing him and winning 1 v1z

But damn that guy was cracked insane at the game

Jklyn- what a goat r.i.p wipe 5

upbeat sun
calm barn
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Can I not transfer from Blacksmith to Steam?

analog knoll
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Sooo um we cant give offerings to religion anymore???

subtle heart
sturdy flare
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can someone tell me what bosses are in crypts and inferno, and what tiles they spawn in

pearl turret
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just wipe it today

fringe garnet
normal bloom
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barb is way too fast

subtle heart
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The ONLY possible way the game can thrive is ONLY by selling the game to a larger, more capable company or team. Anything short of this will not work, Ironmace cannot keep this game alive for 10+ years let alone 3+ years

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I don’t think there is a person out there who actually hates pve mode unlike what the reddit timmies say, Everyone is just upset because there is ZERO content, and they are INCREASING wipe durations because they know they have nothing to release

quaint phoenix
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Why no play arena if game not wipe yet

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😔

subtle heart
ionic trellis
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bro these barbs doing some exploit to queue together as a duo barbarian with LAD that’s crazy

coarse falcon
runic forum
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does pesti scale with magi power ? or just true/additional

halcyon arrow
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How tf am I supposed to queue up if my GS is above 124?

surreal flame
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Let it die please, I’d much rather have a competent dev team step in

coral thistle
halcyon arrow
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Ah, so I got paywalled

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Nice

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Thanks!

surreal flame
dusky oxide
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What day is wipe?

coral thistle
cloud musk
halcyon arrow
silver smelt
halcyon arrow
cloud musk
tidal star
halcyon arrow
cloud musk
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ah mb then

halcyon arrow
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Np

tidal star
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why shouldnt they be able to play it?

cloud musk
tidal star
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its not a bad thing

cloud musk
halcyon arrow
tidal star
tidal star
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people in the 0-24 gs brackets will all have similar gear

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level doesnt = gear

cloud musk
halcyon arrow
tidal star
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highest you can go is 124 which again people cant have miles better kits in

cloud musk
tidal star
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hes complaining and doesnt even fully understand what hes complaining about

halcyon arrow
tidal star
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you literally proved you dont know what youre complaining about when you said you were vsing people with way better gear because of their level

halcyon arrow
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...Suure, whatever you say.

tidal star
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what do you think level does in this game

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it quite literally changes nothing past lvl 20 aside from being a number

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thats what im telling him

subtle heart
jade kayak
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Rogue Should have access to the survival bow, even if it costs 10 MS

coral thistle
halcyon arrow
jade kayak
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As a guy who doesn't know anything about game balance, I think it'd be neat

tidal star
elfin acorn
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remove true dmg next wipe

cloud musk
elfin acorn
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negative

jade kayak
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Add something Stupid and niche in the next wipe

coral thistle
halcyon arrow
coral thistle
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If you fight the higher skill player, you learn. If you end up queueing with one, they can teach you about the game.

jade kayak
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Or a dueling system for dungeon runs where you and the other guy play Russian roulette

tidal star
coral thistle
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Same HP, Same damage.

Lower speed

OR

Same HP, Lower damage

Same speed

Still needs the HP, health tanking frontline but shouldnt have the oppressive chasedown it has rn. Kinda just facetanking things

tidal star
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you can NOT build 250hp squire barb lmfao

fading garnet
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What barb has 250 hp in greys ?

solid cypress
jade kayak
jade kayak
cobalt monolith
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is asnyones game crashing at launch

cloud musk
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war cry + rage BarbStare

halcyon arrow
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Hmm, that doesnt sound that bad honestly. Maybe Normals restricted to lvl 20 and below, and remove the GS thresholds for the upper one? The 0-24 can stay that way.

fading garnet
coral thistle
tidal star
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hes not gonna like that one

cloud musk
torn thorn
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Still need to fix MS meta, tired of shirtless agilcat warlocks

long topaz
torn thorn
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Doesn't stop people from doing it, my guy

coral thistle
abstract apex
halcyon arrow
lusty mica
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when is next wipe again?

ionic trellis
silver smelt
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Mundo in league of legends cannot kill himself with Q.

All of Warlock spells already costs health. Why not make immortal lament a passive, as noone really uses it.

And yes torture mastery is too strong and needs a nerf.

solid cypress
coral thistle
# cloud musk how is warlock unfinished?

Hardly any spells (some of the ones we have are pretty mid too)

Ray of Darkness does bad damage.

Hellfire is purely mob cheese (bad for the game and useless besides breaking doors in pvp).

Bloodstained blade is not worth the cast time and gives a negligible buff for all the harm it causes the caster.

Curse of weakness is also not worth the cast time, as any damage you gain from shaving 15% off someones pdr (not flat, an actual 15%) is negated by the fact that instead of doing 5 more melee damage you couldve hit them with any other damage spell and been better off.

Lifedrain is terrible without hydra.

Not to mention you have only 9 memcap to start with, so hydrain BY ITSELF can’t even be used with base knowledge.

Half the skills are not great.

Demon can’t be used for more than like 12 seconds without an IV of 90 proof Trolls Blood (also the claws hit for nothing take away the weapons and give them a buff).

Dark Offering is an actual meme. So atrociously unusable, a build that can actually utilize it requires a ridiculous amount of will and resourcefulness (as well as meticulously upkeeping the buff for THE ENTIRE RAID)

Kid named yapperton

vocal wren
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Why even close Arenas

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This game is so dead

reef pike
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the main game is pretty dead when arena is open to be fair

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and as a new player, i want my experience in raid

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not in some 1v1

coral thistle
reef pike
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its an extraction based game after all.

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I feel that though.

vast wasp
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So im taking a look at allegro/accelerando, and they say they apply a stack every 1 sec to nearby allies, and the buffs stack up to 3 times. Does this mean I only need to play it once to get 3 stacks? Also, how many seconds are stacks applied after you play it? It seems a bit ambiguous

reef pike
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i think its a really cool idea for end of wipe

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but if you're gonna get rid of wipe...

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or was that a joke

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my timing is for sure whats bad.

main lintel
reef pike
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but i didn't wanna get into it during a fresh wipe. i want an advantage.

main lintel
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wipes should be 1 month long tops

reef pike
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at least its not tarkov wipes.

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half the year is gone on there lol

tidal star
cloud musk
# coral thistle Hardly any spells (some of the ones we have are pretty mid too) Ray of Darkness...

ray of darkness does very good damage if build correctly, hellfire is good only bcz of the clear + doors, not all spells need to be pvp spells,bloodstained is decent with survival but not worth,weakness is STRONG, its 15% pdr + mdr and 15% of every stat, hydra is still one of the best spells in the game, lifedrain is mid, demon is good with enough gear and healer, dark offering would use a rework, and u didnt even talk abt the good spells..

fallen marten
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so whats this 250 price tag for boss im confused?

coral thistle
fallen marten
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what?

vast wasp
# tidal star yes you only need to play it once and it says how long its applied in the descri...

So it effectively lasts for 8 seconds, since it lasts for 6s, is pulsed once immediately, then twice again after 1s/2s? Seems pretty good. I should probably start using them lol
I don't quite remember from when I was playing (I really should lol), but does music playing incur the spell casting movement speed penalty? Wiki only states a .65 multiplier for casting/channeling, and I'm not sure if bard's music counts.

cloud musk
fallen marten
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okay ur ate up can anyone explain this better

tidal star
silver smelt
# coral thistle Hardly any spells (some of the ones we have are pretty mid too) Ray of Darkness...

Ray is perfectly balanced as it is easiest spell to hit in the game.

Hellfire is useful no need to change it

Bloodstain needs a buff not weapon damage one

Curse of weakness could get this change but I think it's good curse. It works very good on Bards.

Life drain could get some rework.

9mem cap is a challenge but it's good as class Identity restriction. Maybe special mem cap perk is needed for 2 spell memory playstyle.

That's what demon is for you get power up but not forever.

Dark offering a meme

vernal ember
tidal star
fallen marten
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I did lay off the kool aid

vast wasp
coral thistle
narrow bane
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Whens new wipe?

sleek lark
fallen marten
sleek lark
tidal star
fallen marten
tidal star
tidal star
sleek lark
upper forum
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It's not like they buy the asset and it's magically a part of the game, it's just a 3d model. IM still does animating, effects and behaviour logic for monsters which take up a bunch of time on their own...

tidal star
upper forum
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Yeah, imo they still look and feel pretty good and fit the game. I think they mentioned they had one monster guy that works on them (they probably have a couple more people now hoplefully), so for a small team like that it's a good way to outsource and speed up that part of the work

main lintel
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they only work on the animations that specifically relate to d a d... other than that, everything is just a store bought asset and come with some rudimentary animation also in some cases and skeletons. you can look for yourself in the store

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yeah so they are deadset just buying assets. haha

slate notch
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when is wipe?

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thank you:)

slender orchid
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Game offline? Stuck on connecting

coral thistle
slender orchid
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was there a huge graphics overhaul or something recently

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everything looks different and better

tidal star
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they made the game darker but other than that nothing that i know of

slender orchid
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Ah.. first time playing with actual HDR. That might be it

manic hill
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it wasnt really a graphics overhaul. it was a contrast/saturation adjustment to prevent people from tweaking their settings and cheating to see in spots you otherwise should not.

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alot of people were complaining when it dropped, that it looked bad. only if they knew it was to help them. its called dark and darker for a reason. you are supposed to be able to hide in the shadows, theres a class that literally revolves around it.

slender orchid
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I didn't like it until I witnessed it in HDR.. huge difference.

silver smelt
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Give Campfires an Overhealing Mechanic
Overall, campfires feel underutilized and don’t seem to have much of a purpose beyond restoring Second Wind or Wizard Spells. What if campfires provided additional health like Cleric’s Overheal, say 5%-30% based on rarity, that stays until worn down by damage?

Link <-

tidal star
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👎

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also would make 3rd partying worse than it already was if i have to deal with a team all with 30% more health than before

silver smelt
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numbers can be adjusted

silver smelt
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i want for campfires to be worth using

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so you just use campfire and blue pot lasts longer?

lament pawn
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does spellbook get buffed by blunt weapon mastery

willow monolith
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you can no longer rematch or is it just me?

stark wedge
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@zinc sparrow why remove arena? 😦 untill the last 24 hours of the sesonal wipe?

polar talon
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they should have keep arena for the last days. without any rating. and giving every artifacts to everyones for arena

stark wedge
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dude @polar talon you can have mine if Graysun anwser me again 😄 free

silver smelt
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I don't think it's enough of a buff. I mean, this comfy buff would need to last at least 3 minutes to make extending a potion's duration actually worthwhile. And even then, would people really want to use a campfire just for slightly longer buffs?

polar talon
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bro theres 3 days left until wipe. relax XD

stark wedge
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agree.

polar talon
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arena is done anyways

stark wedge
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hahaha. damn straight got DB for you Loup when Graysun get in here

polar talon
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its okay wiz ahah personally i dont care im just waiting room for wipe

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im helping timmies on 24 lobbies to learn the game right now

stark wedge
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see thats the point :/ why remove it....

polar talon
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that is why i said lets give all artifacts for everyone for the last 3 days on arena arena is out. it would be a good ooportunity for new players having a chance to taste artifacts

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arena doesnt matter now for the last 3 days

stark wedge
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i am in a dilamma i do agree and disagree 😄

silver smelt
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The problem with the campfire buff is that you never know when you're going to run into an enemy, and the buff should be stronger than any other utility since it requires a long animation and forces you to sit in one place for a while.

fair maple
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who wants some coins and health potions

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i got alot losin my accnt givin it away

old hazel
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Can ironmace please bring back the map rotation system and remove the seperate map queue, this system inputted has killed the game for smaller regions like oceania resulting in the player base splitting by 3x and I have only seen 4 people in 20 games, this is horrid for a pvp player like me and makes the game unplayable.

tardy forge
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Quick question, if u die in hr you dont recover anything still right?

main lintel
# old hazel Can ironmace please bring back the map rotation system and remove the seperate m...

it hasnt split the playerbase by 3 times... its split the playerbase into sub 24s... 3 maps. 124s 3 maps. 224s 3 maps. open bracket 3 maps... then on 2 of the maps they are multi level... so for a region like oceanic it has split the 100 strong playerbase into 12 brackets.. and then add arena into that mix when arena is on and its even more brackets because of MMR... so you have diddly squat chance of seeing anyone that isnt a FREE to play gold farmer wtih alphabet soup names

silver smelt
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there should be higher chance of recovery for Self-found items to help new players Salute

main lintel
late heath
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anyone els got a game update?

silver smelt
fathom crater
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when wipe

raw musk
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After wipe pls close auction house for 4 weeks also instant start the season …

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Season start 1 month later is so dumb it kills the wipe feeling

ember igloo
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Question, if you place a pavise down during frost wyvern's phases, can that protect you from Its breath and knockback, or does it need to be the ice blocks?

raw musk
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Closed auction house for 4 weeks after wipe would make every item you find so strong and you actually have a wipe and it’s not all about making gold to buy everything

fathom crater
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when is wipe tho

midnight igloo
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is there any post on what changes to expect on 10. april?

hardy stump
mossy wing
silk mulch
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when wipe game is ded as hell rn

main lintel
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and if he only returned or you were only able to insure self found items... this would solve the issue... the the insurance would be extortionately high

silver smelt
main lintel
main lintel
silver smelt
abstract umbra
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if u see someone named pingponglong with a red name in normals kill him he duos with a cleric and will kill you off spawn bros a lsoer

main lintel
abstract umbra
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the mod bot is dumb asf said dont witch hunt other players when pingponglong witch hunts you in game

main lintel
# abstract umbra the mod bot is dumb asf said dont witch hunt other players when pingponglong wit...

yeah dont worry... i used to post a ban list here (ironmaces ban list that they post to me every evening when i log in) and i got a timeout for posting their own ban list... because often it would show people how many players are cheating on oce.... and the players who were banned and buying other accounts and naming themselves the exact same name again (zero iq play) would report me for exposing them

clear wing
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fallout 3 is peak, fallout 4 is peak, todd howard can do no wrong, fallout new vegas is the work of the devil himself

dry nebula
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The devil has got good taste then

bitter vortex
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does anti magic work against lich?

tacit tiger
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my favorite thing in this whole game my absolute most favorite part ITS PUTTING KITS TOGETHER THEN DYING TO ONE OF THESE DERP ASS GLITCHES bring back some kind of recovery please assking for the 100th times i pay u guys twice for this game and it would be nice to not waste all my time putting kits together when ghostking does some hyper phase slerp ballblast triple black bat bullshit

barren mortar
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when is wipe?

plain folio
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10th

opal patrol
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2 days 14 hours lmao

floral hedge
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when they wipe is that also gonna be the start of new season

weary shoal
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omg pls no wipe

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i have best loot

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no no pls no

upper jungle
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You got about two days to enjoy it!

main lintel
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just wipe today.. there is nothing happening in game... make wipes last 1 month.. release all quests day 1 and lets get this on... the wipe is the ONLY thing keeping these games alive....

stiff pasture
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does that mean

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that the temp ban is really actually the wipe?

opal patrol
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thats what the leaderboard says not sure, u got a ss>

frosty tulip
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Deth bloom 45 k trade

stiff pasture
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oh god. im here super worried i got banned but from what i am searching this "ban" is actually maintenance?

kindred warren
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When is wipe on the east coast?

stiff pasture
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wipe here is 2d12hr (asia)

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i think

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that or i am actually banned

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xD

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hope not

kindred warren
stiff pasture
main lintel
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must be serious... they dont ban anyone hahahahah unless its blatant

stiff pasture
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but @opal patrol message of time before wipe

kindred warren
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U got something funky on ur pc

stiff pasture
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coincides with my remaining time

stiff pasture
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and overwolf

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other than that. nada

mild sinew
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and Trojan virus made me get banned long ago, make sure

hollow moss
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Hey ya’ll. Sub 200 hours player here.

Been playing duos since I started and haven’t really played HR that much, been focusing on earning money/pvp skills with my 122 GS normal runs.

A friend of mine recently started playing aswell and we wanna start playing trio HR’s next wipe.

We’ve been trying to figure out what comp we wanna run but find information from more experienced players difficult to find online.

Do any of ya’ll any good sources/videos or tips you can give for a Good trio comp i’d really appreciate it! Thanks a lot

stiff pasture
slow girder
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what did they updated?

stiff pasture
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apex legends also has anti cheat and ive played for hundreds of hours and it does not flag me

mild sinew
frosty tulip
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DETHBLOOM ON market 45 k gold

pseudo void
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@stiff pasture repair the client then it will make you update

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Game let me back in without updating and the game freaked out

hollow moss
frosty tulip
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DETHBLOOM ON market 45 k gold

mild sinew
stiff pasture
mild sinew
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just verify

pseudo void
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I just updated. If on steam there is a post that shows you how to do transfer to blacksmith

mint stratus
mild sinew
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Taverncomn_1_1 is the anti cheat btw guys, it doesnt stop when you close the game either

cloud musk
short sand
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can i ask, what is the point on wizard anymore when sorc can basically do everything but better?

mild sinew
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wizard has more firepower @short sand

pseudo void
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I mean i just repaired then it updated* @stiff pasture

mint stratus
cloud musk
short sand
mild sinew
peak shore
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i wish wope was today tired of waiting

stiff pasture
pseudo void
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I use blacksmith not steam. So if it doesn’t work just google the problem but gl @stiff pasture

stiff pasture
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also have not experienced this much sorrow since this is my supposedly first VAC ban ever. would hate if this happen cause i would not know what to do next time since i dont have/use third party software aside from overwolf and nvidia overlay

short sand
mild sinew
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you got windblast and a longsword

mild sinew
crystal cradle
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hello i have a problem im a fighter but i cannot equip hevvy armor like helmets

short sand
crystal cradle
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is it cuz i chose a women fighter or what

stiff pasture
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unequip it and you are good to go :>

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that or your base gears are still in the early game

crystal cradle
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i love you

mild sinew
cosmic plume
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When is wipe?

mild sinew
cosmic plume
short sand
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fire bending rules XD

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ill try that shank build thou seems fun cibbing tf outta people as a wizzy

mild sinew
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make sure to have a Quarterstaff for a secondary, blocking method

short sand
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ok

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ty

mild sinew
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so the mana sphere takes MS away, if you need to chase someone, you ignite and unequip and you can run w your knife to chase and most of the time as Wizard youre fast so its a good method to use as well

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i like running Haste and ignite together for this reason, but most of the time chasing gets you killed so up to you

tidal rune
#

Arena is closed when we are waiting for a reset? Why

mild sinew
sturdy flare
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what greathall does banshee spawn in

coral thistle
hardy stump
regal grotto
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why does dnd keep saying connecting and never loads up??

coral thistle
coral thistle
trim fox
earnest current
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With all the LOVE from ironmace for spell and ranger , this game need a gun or bazoka for melee class , game balance never happens, the first problem is running speed, how the hell do priests or witches have the same base speed as fighters or barbarians and rangers needless to say, just 1 hit will lose 70% of their health, even if it's not a headshot, they will still lose 40% and other close range classes all have iron on their feet while witches run fast, cast spells and then turn around and run while enemies heal and then cast a bunch of long range spells

cloud musk
fading coral
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when they are gonna remove creep from barb and fighter?

hollow moss
swift grotto
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wen iz wipe

median holly
quick grove
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spell casters have to sweat to win

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melee doesn't

weak sinew
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I can't wait to become a light orb enjoyer in adventure mode crunchywiz

median holly
quick grove
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q

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e

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w

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m1

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m1

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ez

median holly
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Oops miss played lets just pop a second wind and actually restore more than half my hp while fighting giving fighter more than 200 effective HP

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Let's also ignore how horrible the sound in this game is, you can sometimes just walk to people if they aren't looking because they can't hear you

sharp iron
fading coral
median holly
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The sound simply doesn't work sometimes, i had plate fighters come up close to me and i never heard a single sound, surprise silent barbarian is also common

fervent anvil
fading coral
soft karma
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💔

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or turn up your audio

median holly
soft karma
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cause people who play on 100% audio with good headphones dont got this problem Wakeup

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guess im the odd one out then idk anguish

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and if you really got bad audio problems get a sound limiter so you can make everything not so loud but the quiet sounds stay the same. idk if that is considered cheating tho

dry nebula
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I have spacial audio and Dolby atmos precision settings and sometimes still don’t hear people walking up to me lol

soft karma
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everything ive listed can still help and ntm you can change alot of shitty render and unoptimized stuff in the config files

fervent anvil
viral flint
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Hello guys! When Epic Games gave away the game, did they give away the free version or the legendary status one?

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Okay! I'm having problems migrating my game.

empty granite
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friendly reminder your game is in such a dogwater place right now. who the hell wants to NEVER know where they are going EVERY ROUND. WHY WOULD ANYONE LIKE THIS. ITs sooooo bad ur game is soooo bad rn. No one wants to be completely confused on where boss rooms are EVERY ROUND. Why would you impliment such a terrible game killing mechanic before having it fleshed out. Its not even close to fun or good. your killing your game for no reason. It was so fun before this wipe. LOOOOVEEEEE playing the guessing game each round and never seeing anyone. So so awful

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also when is wipe

hardy stump
empty granite
hardy stump
empty granite
empty granite
hardy stump
empty granite
hardy stump
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I know this, but do you think newbies do?

hardy stump
mossy wing
hardy stump
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I'll have a bunch of friends coming back for PvE mode, so at least these couple newbies will have a proper guidance 😄

empty granite
empty granite
primal plover
hardy stump
empty granite
primal plover
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not gonna defend the state of the game where it is now but if you are saying you didnt have fun in those 100s of hours learning the game im calling cap or sunk cost fallacy on your end

empty granite
primal plover
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I find a boss room every single game unless I die to PVP man finding rooms isn't that much more difficult just frustrating at times.

hardy stump
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I had plenty of fun during that time, my entire first season was learning preriod, but tell me, how many players are willing to learn new game this long? Staff that took me the longest were bare basics, because nothing tells you how to properly prepare and start the game, tome of knowledge we eventually got is not only garbage, its hidden from anyone who does not specifically go over every single UI icon

median wren
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we want arena back

empty granite
hardy stump
primal plover
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i thought timmy lobs were based off account or is it based off fame?

safe mountain
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Once again. Why is arena closed with what 4 days until wipe. My friends are literally play the test server right now because they have nothing to do.

hardy stump
empty granite
hardy stump
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you genuinely miss the point, or its on purpose?

empty granite
primal plover
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Uh yes there is - the rookie system they implemented like 2 months ago

hard rock
hardy stump
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you sure this has nothing to do with you having couple of thousands of hours played, experiencing severe burnout, but being in denial about it?

grizzled comet
empty granite
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if they left it alone like last season id still be playin all day

hard rock
hardy stump
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guess you're not hardcore enough for it anymore lol

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I do like fog of war and random dungeon, but I hate HR fortnite mode

empty granite
primal plover
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i wonder what the 0/10 (bait) rookie system they implemented and spoke of in announcements is then?..huh..learn something new every day.

empty granite
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burn out is real, what i am experiencing is not burn out, i know myself enough to say that lmao

empty granite
hardy stump
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so we're back to being in denial about burnout

fierce jolt
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denial is a river

empty granite
viral flint
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guys is there a way to get the migration code now from epic?

hard rock
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Wait so is this Buddha guy trolling?

primal plover
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yeah so you are just going dude: trust me. I have 2.8k hours so would of never landed in one of those lobbies regardless but even though it's ironmace and the chance they didn't implement something is 50/50 - you just objectively saying it doesn't exist due to some anecdotal evidence is kinda not valid lol but either way you are probably correct.

hardy stump
# empty granite i think ur delulu brotha

am I tho? you sure its not a projection?
I voice out what I like and don't like at the game, you just repeat "IZ BAD LMAO" on loop, that's burnout my friend if you can't even name things you don't like

empty granite
primal plover
empty granite
hard rock
wooden pawn
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Hi, I'm pretty new, and I'd like to know which class is best for support. I'm playing Rogue, but it seems very useless.
And since I play with two rather dumb friends, I want something balanced that supports but also hits.
They told me about the cleric, but I'd like to hear more opinions.
Thanks.

primal plover
empty granite
hard rock
hardy stump
hard rock
empty granite
tropic flicker
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if u cant traverse the map and clear fog in order to proceed ur just bad tbh. Fog & random module is there to make spawn rushing and insta dungeon down strats harder.

hardy stump
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I am sorry your goblin caves fight club is gone now, but playing HR will still lead you to other sweats

primal plover
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well no you dont need to say anecdotal, your evidence of your claim is anecdotal though that's just fact. And you were saying it doesn't exist as if it i is objective truth when it's just subjective and based on your view. As I said, you are most likely correct but you just saying it doesn't exist because you don't experience it isn't really valid. It doesn't stand up in an argument anyway.

wooden pawn
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we play trio usually

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1 knight and 1 warlock

primal plover
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subjective facts but objective in our own asserted realities 😉

fierce jolt
hard rock
tropic flicker
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good rogue is really good in trios because he can solo any caster and get out free. wich other classes cannot.

wooden pawn
tropic flicker
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lmao ok KEKW

fierce jolt
primal plover
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well this is interesting as in my reality i am never wrong, yet in yours you aren't..unstoppable force meets immoveable object?

tropic flicker
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rip no gifs

primal plover
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lol

fierce jolt
primal plover
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imagine doing drugs

tropic flicker
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imagine not doing drugs

wooden pawn
primal plover
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ok john lennon

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you can cap people so hard with the lute lol

hard rock
#

Does anyone here play the souls series I need some help

hard rock
tropic flicker
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why tf y asking in dnd discord

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also yes

primal plover
marsh monolith
primal plover
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i bet john wishes he wrote it in his past diary

hard rock
tropic flicker
hard rock
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Known troll on the discord

tropic flicker
tidal star
hard rock
primal plover
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you're not missing much

hard rock
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I picked the prisoner guy and tried to kill the tree guy

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But couldn't kill him so I went to the castle

tropic flicker
hard rock
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My spells seem weak tho

tropic flicker
#

find his shackles u can stunn him, use bell summon

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and dont be bad

primal plover
#

you could always do the true method of going away and coming back 30 levels higher

tropic flicker
tacit tiger
#

This game has become 99.9% making a kit simulator @zinc sparrow once again for like the 10,000th time. please add the recovery back or some form of it. ur game is too glitchy to just waste all our time per glitch

primal plover
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just do a 360 and walk away

tropic flicker
thick knoll
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Why the F is arena closed? @zinc sparrow @glad thunder There is 0 reason to have it closed right now with wipe coming in 2 days....and u wonder why the game has been on the decline for the last year? Stupid decisions like this....

primal plover
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arena shmerena

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im honestly shocked by how people only keep 1 kit

tropic flicker
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i think u should loose ur kit if u loose in arena

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winner keeps all

primal plover
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but thats dungeons

tropic flicker
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would make it more intresting

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exactly

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also betting

primal plover
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now we're talking

tropic flicker
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u could risk gold

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b4 the match and if enemy team does not want to match or raise they fold the match

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dnd arena meets texas holdem KEKW

fringe garnet
tropic flicker
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or bring back the gathering hall system have a "wager" board that ppl posted their bets u could accept it and match would begin

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i mean thats what i would like, would bring depth to the game and feed into ppls cravings of risk vs reward.

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i would play it prolly 85% of time

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only raid if i loose everything KEKW

dusky grove
#

So when's wipe?

hard rock
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10th

dusky grove
#

Ok

hard rock
#

You okay brotha

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Game is dead rn

primal plover
hard rock
#

Probably on US West

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Random like my asshol

primal plover
hard rock
primal plover
hard rock
mild sinew
open obsidian
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why is it i have 14000 points in HR but says i have no rank.... anyone else?

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should still tell me my rank from this season and the last one but they are all blank

hard rock
#

My b bro intrusive thoughts

wooden gulch
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chaos is life YoloRage

open obsidian
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❤️ i

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❤️ u

pseudo garden
#

This intermediate period is fried tbh just start the next season when the previous one is over. Kills the momentum of the game

open obsidian
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they want to but have to make sure the patch works before giving us 3 day wait time to play cuz patch sucked

pseudo garden
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There’s got to be another way to ensure the patch rolls out smoothly

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I’ve seen way smaller dev teams pull that off

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I get that but maybe just a day down time aside from a week

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Sometimes they have done this and still gets messed up

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Just no grind though

glass crypt
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Games not down. It’s down bad right now lol

pseudo garden
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Exactly

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@devteam

hard rock
unborn adder
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buff druid

silver smelt
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stop buffing things that do not struggle in the game

solemn dagger
#

Wipe is this Thursday right? Waiting to hop back in and see what's changed. I have played maybe 4 hours since sorc was added.

tropic flicker
tropic flicker
wooden gulch
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ComfyOttoRight hyped for the new wipe

patent breach
#

I have not played in a few months
What's the most op broken stuff rn

harsh dagger
#

anyone stuck on connecting screen

silver smelt
harsh dagger
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i aint on black smith but steam , , its sorted it self out now after a hour of just screen connectinog

hasty ice
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Na but fr it's sorc, druid, warlock

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Same culprits over and over

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Cleric aswell

winged herald
#

Ironmace are you ever going to fix the warlord bug where you get perma-stuck after breaking a cage? dying to that bug over and over feels so bad

patent breach
#

When will druid stop being so good ;-;

hasty ice
silver smelt
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lets make a tier list

  1. druid panther
  2. rogue hide, double jump
  3. sorc
  4. cleric mele
    5 warlock tm

Am I missing something important?

hasty ice
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Double jump rouge is only broken bc they can build 186 hp 50% pdr

trim fox
#

sounds like barbarian is in fact balanced, if not even in the top

hasty ice
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Also can't headshot them

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Warlock needs to have torture mastrey not able to be used if you use phantomize

silver smelt
hasty ice
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Sorc - wind mastrey, infinite wind blast spam bs perk busted

swift oyster
trim fox
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I dont remember, but apparently people crying about barb all this time were in fact wrong, but what do people not cry about every single day

hasty ice
vast niche
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guys if i migrate my account from epic to steam or ironmace do iloose my legendary status?

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pls sum1 help

hasty ice
# swift oyster 315-323 ms

Slayer fighter is the only one who could realistically build that much ms and have it constantly

And slayer is ass bc you fold in 2 hits

swift oyster
hasty ice
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Yea please if you would

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In lobby

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None sprint active

swift oyster
#

Yup its best way to build fighter

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Can i send it in here?

hasty ice
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Prob not you can dm me tough

vast niche
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tnx much friend

tidal shell
#

When is wipe

hasty ice
#

So the 15th

tidal shell
hasty ice
swift oyster
cosmic swan
fringe garnet
#

Will always remember the one time they did a seamless wipe, no maintenance

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They had just advertised during Summer Game's Fest 2024 and, in an effort to allow as many on as possible, wiped the game instantly the moment it changed to that day utc

gleaming nebula
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Get this shit WIPED

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NOW!!!

hasty ice
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Im on a work trip atm till Thursday glad I got to enjoy arena till it closed that shit was lit

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I never had as much fun with randoms in dark and darker then I did this weekend

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Everyone was yapping and talking the ish in dms and meming it was great

obsidian scarab
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not sure if this is the right channel, but no matter what i do dark and darker refuses to connect

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gives failed to connect message

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on epic games

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anyone else experiencing this?

hasty ice
#

Anyway NoWs ThE perfect time for me to tell you about jonheboat and how I stole his lad it was like taking candy from a baby

hard rock
#

Is this game any good?

hasty ice
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And no

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Its like a bad relationship yea your dad is abusive but it's your dad you gotta love him right? Right...

hasty ice
wispy siren
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Restore arena til wipe thanks

wooden gulch
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weird take. And yes this game is good and unique, most people that are dooming because of weak mind would be crying if the game was shut down

winged herald
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Ironmace please fix the warlord bug where we get stuck permanently even after breaking out of the cage. its such a stupid way for us to lose our gearsets for nothing

thorn sparrow
#

Is there any info if IM is gonna prolong the arenas till wipe day? Closing down arenas three days before the wipe is so stupid

stiff pasture
#

finally got unbanneeed

winged herald
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i know u dont want to or incapable of balancing the game, but at least fix the bugs fighting warlord so we dont waste all our time and gear, it feels so bad and its actually a bug im not even talking about balance issues rn

obsidian scarab
azure bronze
#

Mid and Midder

obsidian scarab
#

looking as i cant get into the game

hasty ice
wooden gulch
lofty hemlock
#

what was the lil update?

hasty ice
quick grove
#

will pve be available for free to plays

smoky tendon
#

Most likely NOT

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Just buy the game tho brokie

hardy dirge
#

When wipe?

quick grove
karmic zealot
#

What class takes the most skill

hasty ice
karmic zealot
#

Defo Druid right

hasty ice
odd nacelle
rapid arrow
#

Is arena back?

hasty ice
#

Looking at you morning star

hard rock
wild trout
#

have they added multiclass yet

hard rock
#

Sorry Tom that was meant to be a message for me

tiny briar
#

game dead til wipe?

tidal star
#

yup

hard rock
light oasis
hard rock
light oasis
#

One of the worst received updates in the history of the game.

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Poorly balanced.

wild trout
#

it's end of wipe it's supposed to be

light oasis
#

Way too many broken combos to even try to handle balancing.

lethal quartz
light oasis
hasty ice
analog raven
meager atlas
#

is it true we are getting first 2-4 weeks of wipe without the marketplace?

stiff pasture
#

i got banned again

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after getting unbanned

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i think is is only happening to me at goblin caves

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am experiencing stuttering there due to fps drops. maybe it counts as delays or something

thorn eagle
#

Does anyone know when twitch drop date is?

tawny stirrup
#

Did they reset the ranks in the past month?

ornate raft
tawny stirrup
#

alright thanks, that was scary for a sec

eager mulch
#

knee grows

silk trellis
#

Is wipe the 10th?

peak lynx
#

That’s what I heard

hard rock
thorn eagle
eager mulch
thorn eagle
#

I think they should experiment

static frost
#

I'm excited for it

thorn eagle
thorn eagle
thorn eagle
peak lynx
#

Unemployed mfrs: “god this game sucks wtf they need more content”

Average DnD enjoyer:

thorn eagle
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i dont trust link XD

eager mulch
#

employed dnd veterans : “god this game sucks wtf they need more content”

peak lynx
#

It was supposed to be the chad gif idk why discord not just dropping it as a gif

thorn eagle
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oh ok lol

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does it for me too

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wierd

light oasis
peak lynx
#

It is 8am. On a Monday. U did not work overtime yet. Stop capping

light oasis
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Not sure how being employed has anything to do with the argument lmao.

wanton otter
#

There needs to be more leather/cloth helmets that fighter can equip in the future imo. only Leather Cap currently. Wouldn't mind a Hard Leather helmet, maybe a rugby looking thing..

peak lynx
#

So that’s 8 hours in total. Two 4 hour shifts. Not OT. But yea idc I’m not trying to gatekeep. Idk man I literally play like an hour maybe a day then on weekends and still have not got a orange item. Like the game is fine

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Mfrs who have named items and rush bosses and bla bla bla

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It’s like. Be fr. The game is fine stop bitching

abstract apex
#

only ones complaining are the ones who put 18-19 hours a day and treat this game like their life.

light oasis
light oasis
sullen urchin
#

remove cmm please

stone spade
worn zephyr
#

When is season 6

late hemlock
worn zephyr
#

alr alr thanks 🙏 @late hemlock

tropic flicker
#

how does not one know at this point when its announced weeks ago.

wanton otter
subtle heart
hard rock
golden yacht
#

How do I heal myself in game

subtle heart
# hard rock Why did it fail

Multiclassing will never work, even if you were allowed to take a single perk or skill, it would become extremely unbalanced and completely breaks class identity. TM warlock 320-330 ms with phantomize dreamwalk can quit literally never die unless they choose to

silver smelt
subtle heart
silver smelt
elfin rain
#

Was wipe today?

subtle heart
hard rock
gritty scroll
dry nebula
#

grow some balls perhaps

subtle heart
subtle heart
echo sparrow
#

🧢

hard rock
silver smelt
subtle heart
gritty scroll
subtle heart
hard rock
ember igloo
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Third though, thats probably gonna work a treat

static frost
#

First phase you don't even need ice blocks, easily avoidable

ember igloo
#

Even so, if pavise can make it easier, im all for it

peak lynx
ember igloo
#

Though I failed at getting it down in time on the last phase just

peak lynx
#

If u put in 8billion hours and have a busted multiclass and kill me im not even mad. U deserve that shit. Just bring back multiclass but make leveling up to the requirements way harder. Maybe make it quest item instead of just time sink? That could be cool too. Idc. The game is gunna be busted anyways. And most the time if ur sneaky or can space yourself properly and get the first hit off you’ll win the match up. And if u can’t win like that you know shields exist in the game right.

abstract apex
peak lynx
#

I think balancing aside, the most important thing this game needs is a FISHING map, and then to make the gathering halls into common in game areas like before how they had the rematch lobby as a tavern and just turn on proximity chat.

abstract apex
#

Every single time multi class has came out it always devolved into barb + 2 OP abilites.

peak lynx
#

Weapon skins could be nice too but I understand wanting to flex the rare gear as the only way to look dripped out. That way u can’t be a bum at the game AND look cool at the same time.

abstract apex
#

also actin like shields are gonna save you 100% of the time is crazy considering you can W into a shield and poke thru it

austere nest
#

@glad thunder open the arena pleasee

abstract apex
#

yeah skill def to the dummy using a shield and gave me a free kit lmao.

cunning canopy
austere nest
#

i dont want to go highroll with fucking illusory and fulgor let me play with them in arena wtf

stone spade
gritty scroll
cobalt tulip
#

Do we know what stats the new Pathfinder skin gives?

abstract apex
silver smelt
gritty scroll
cobalt tulip
peak lynx
#

Game isn’t PvP based. So you’ve got your priorities mixed up. Go play arena with ur 10 second attention span.

abstract apex
#

running away to live isn't a joke lol.

peak lynx
#

Make mobs harder, introduce new mobs, and add tavern back. Easy clap

#

Anyone who complains about balance can go play adventure mode

silver smelt
#

game was wayyy better balanced before patch 69

gritty scroll
silver smelt
#

content is good. I talk abbout class balance

gritty scroll
#

New classes are new content imo 😉

abstract apex
#

class balance was a joke pre patch 69 and still is.

surreal dove
#

Tbh I would probably enjoy the PvP aspect of the Game alot more if fights weren't so extremily reliant on stats

abstract apex
#

The only thing in pvp that needs to be addressed it ranged weapons. Longbows 2 tapping ppl after just being drawn is insane.

surreal arch
abstract apex
#

rest of trios problems only exist cuz of poor teamplay. same thing for duos. In solos Don't ever expect solos to be balanced lol.

gritty scroll
#

I've accepted that someone will always be unhappy with the balance no matter what.

stone spade
echo sparrow
#

i thought cleric was the broken class? and barbarian? and fighter?

silver smelt
#

I would enjoy game if the most broken abilities in entire game stop being buffed for no reason.

abstract apex
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every class is "broken"

gritty scroll
abstract apex
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when in reality there is only one really OP thing RN and its the ranged meta.

echo sparrow
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shield are your friend

abstract apex
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except when the arrow goes thru the shield cuz it doesn't have a complete hitbox.

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literally just better to run than block.

gritty scroll
river ivy
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This game has been ruined this last year of installments

abstract apex
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Shields need to be wall like entities that can full on just stop blows. No more of thing spear going thru shield daggers going thru shield Arrows going thru shield. Fucking spells go thru shields 1/3 of the time.

river ivy
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A room of monkeys could develop this game better than the current team.

echo sparrow
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use a bigger shield

gritty scroll
river ivy
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Coal, you are a garbage player I know. Go run around with a sorc or warlock and leave this cha.

stone spade
# gritty scroll This is far from the first game I've played that involves a changing meta and ga...

Holy shit you keep doing it. The games balance is fucked! Why in the fucking fuck fud they buff smite and nerf fighter. It makes no sense. And besides the balancing, why did they completely break the ui and lightning. I get a headache when I play because everything is so eye straining and I have seen people defending this change aswell which makes no sense cause the game was completely fine before it.

abstract apex
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the game needs to not worry about adding and needs to focus on fixing.

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I'd rather a wipe where a bunch of glitches get fixed then a few new buggy mobs. a new buggy class.

river ivy
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Anyone that adds TTV into their name holds zero weight to any topic. Esp dark and darker content LOL

proper rapids
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i dont think people are actually loading in to games. havent ran into a single person in 3 hours.

gritty scroll
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I don't respond to ad hominem attacks.

river ivy
abstract apex
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only bad thing with comps rn is being able to get 2+ of the same class in a grp.

stone spade
gritty scroll
subtle heart
abstract apex
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not sure how ppl are premading 2x LaD barbs b4 arena shutdown but they were.

river ivy
abstract apex
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Most of that is just skill issue. you tend to die when u run at 3 ppl and ur team leaves u alone

trail laurel
subtle heart
river ivy
ember igloo
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stone spade
gritty scroll
river ivy
nova bluff
static frost
stone spade
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