game-discussion

[tight sierra]

perhaps but the approach has changed rather than before where people just ran straight to the boss room, if youre after pvp, you'd be in the hotspots, if not, you'd be in the edge of the map, where pvpers dont care to go around on.

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[hardy stump]

you're not hardcore enough, clearly hardcore issue

sweaty try hards will always complain this is not dueling game when they are getting jumped, but I noticed most of them have no issue 3rd partying themselves

[winter tinsel]

You’re not hardcore unless you live hardcore!

[serene mesa]

have you tried not dying? you know that the opponents in arena are fake bots right? how did you lose?

[topaz lintel]

true, third partying is just a made up word for "i got caught with my pants down and got outplayed" its just another way for people to complain that other people are just playing the game.

[kind ermine]

cant remember worse state of the game than current one lmfao new HRs are unfunny joke fr

[hardy stump]

I don't eat honey, I chew bees

[cerulean crypt]

You're at least correct that it's a part of the game. But It's pretty much impossible to win a 3v3 without taking any damage and without using any resources like spells. So obviously if a 3rd team rushes you just as you win a 3v3 you're likely going to be low on spells/health or whatever.

[stone lynx]

How to be hardcore?

[topaz lintel]

yes i suppose they should wait for you to loot and heal up and then start running away before they push you right

[serene mesa]

dkd ty

[cerulean crypt]

Nah of course not. You should take any advantage you can get. Why wouldn't you?

[topaz lintel]

^ exactly

[cerulean crypt]

I'm just saying while it is a part of the game it's also still a real thing that can feel bad for the team who it happens to.

[topaz lintel]

sure, but they shouldent complain and whine about it

[cerulean crypt]

Why not? 99% of what people complain about is part of the game.

[topaz lintel]

yeah but like i said what do they want people to do? just wait for them to heal before pushing?

[cerulean crypt]

I think the thing is you can complain about something without expecting players to not do it.

[topaz lintel]

for the other complaints about the game there isnt a thing like that, its just genuine complaints about stupid systems that these devs thought up in their sleep

[cerulean crypt]

Like it sucks to get 3rd partied but pretty much all of us will take an easy 3rd party if we see it.

I might complain because it feels bad and I don't like it but I wouldn't demand or expect people to not do it.

[cedar rapids]

Surely pre season 3 starts today

[tight sierra]

I didnt complain about being 3rd partied or 3rd partying people, I "complained" about how it feels like it feels more often with the new changes, while this could just be a cope thing, it isnt entirely on the playerbase's fault, continuous dungeon for example promotes constant combat in the dungeon and this is all on the devs.

[astral cloak]

this new update is so shit I might just quit, goblin caves are now random so if your a noob good luck and if you are good then only reason your there is to boss, inferno is bigger but also randomized so good luck finding ghost king

[stone kernel]

i feel this is just wrong, in theory it sounds right in practice i dont actually see it hash out as youre describing

[astral cloak]

randomized maps aren't better nor fun when you can't see them, it's very hard to kill a boss when you don't know where they are and joining in mid match makes it worse

[topaz lintel]

random maps good, fog of war pointless and annoyin tho

[tight sierra]

hence why i said i could just be coping, but me and my friends ACTIVELY seeked out fights before the changes happened in the goblin caves, it was actually pretty boring trying to find people on hotspots and seeing how theres no one even attempting to do bosses on some lobbies. I wasn't entirely complaining tbh someone just decided i was, but just saying what it feels like to me currently. Heck i dont mind the 3rd partying.

[astral cloak]

once I was trying to kill cyclops but couldn't bc I wasted the whole time fighting players who kept spawing next to cyclops room, I had to kill 6 players and had to play cat and mouse for 10min straight and bc this was <24 lobby I got nothing for waisting so much time

[swift ether]

You missed or desync

[astral cloak]

YES, EXACTLY

it's ok to randomize maps bc we have to switch up our plan depending on room locations but when you can't see the map your just making it very vary annoying

for weeks I haven't done one quest from armour which is to interact woch axe traps and to explore "long bridge" location

[olive dragon]

THE CIRCLE IS THE WORST FUCKING THING IVE EVER DEALT IN MY FUCKING LIFE. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED, I WISH NEXON WON THE COURT CASE

[topaz lintel]

😂

[olive dragon]

LAST FUCKING CIRCLE HELL DIED STANDING IN TINY CIRCLE NO PORTALS

[winter tinsel]

The final circle has a guaranteed portal wym

[olive dragon]

SUPER HARCORE SDF THANKS BUDDY

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[topaz lintel]

no lol. had like 20 times at least so far in hr with last circle and no portal

[olive dragon]

promise to you and 2 people watching me that wasnt the case

[astral cloak]

also "explore ------ location" on forgotten castle is the most time wasting, annoying, infuriating and stupid quest right now bc map is not only randomized but we also can't see it

[rugged lichen]

I agree tokoboko

[astral cloak]

yes, compared to other games movement is slow and clunky, in a similar game like tarkov or arena breakout which are looter shooters they have limited but still very fast movement

[rugged lichen]

please**

[olive dragon]

ban him please

[rugged lichen]

??

[dire mesa]

why can you get people stuck in gates? wtf is this hot diarrhea mechanic? sdf is you ok?

like no way that is a mechanic you keep in the game after 2 years, you chicken poop sized brain

[astral cloak]

one final thing I will say is, I play fighter as my main but I have tried out cleric and it was a fun class so nurfing it to oblivion was a very stupid move, especially when bc cleric is so slow and doesn't realy have long range capabilities only thing going for it was its blessings and buffs so now it's even worse, so unless your playing paladin cleric the class is shit bc all blessing last for 6sec which will probably ware off before you can go in to a fight

[winter tinsel]

That was the whole point, to nerf pre-buffing aka buff ball. Look at wizard for example. But I agree it’s a little silly when you consider how strong Druid HoTs are

[dusky oxide]

Can I use my bought gear in arena yet or is sdf being useless again?

[spice oar]

do u still get ur stufff back from goblin merchant in hr if no one loot?

[winter tinsel]

Nope

[woeful raft]

@glad thunder REMOVE MANA SPHERE FROM FIGHTER. CANCER ASS META

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[uncut cove]

Before the zone fully closes in, the white circle will be very small and that's the exact location a guarranteed triple portal will spawn

[solemn flicker]

people were crying about cleric being OP, which he never was, cleric is the slowest class in the game with damn near zero range, people just suck at the game, cleric is now so bad, druid healer is better then cleric healer in eeryway, and druid is aids/low skill/broken class

[topaz lintel]

😂

[solemn flicker]

people wer ecreying about smite like they cant literally jsut bait it out then walk away, people are just bad at the game and want rogue to be OP

[digital bronze]

is there any tutorial/guide for newbie ?

[worn lily]

depends on what you're trying to learn but yeah on youtube there is tons

[jovial marten]

losing is fun lmao

[topaz lintel]

also if you have the game on blacksmith and want to learn bosses you can do it on test server cause there is only like 50 players using the test server

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[devout hull]

Good luck on that one, they wanted to remove it for ages and a lot of people are happy its gone. Dont think we seeing it again

[subtle heart]

hello i hope everyone is enjoying our favourite dead and doomed game

[uncut cove]

I sure am

[dire mesa]

too many bad mechanics in this game, get punished for total bs

[topaz lintel]

• Next Patch
• Fog Of War Removed From All Game Modes
• Insurance Returns Enabled On HR Again As Well As Entry Fee
• Swarm Removed From All Game Modes

( hoping, coping, smokin )

[devout hull]

Theyll prob buff druid instead

[topaz lintel]

hope so, it needs it

if rat form doesn't get an electric guitar im uninstalling

[devout hull]

I think they should just remove all extracts from the game so we can have a true hardcore experience

[topaz lintel]

they already did that in hell

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[golden forge]

what the hell happened in past 2 days why is gold 2k and why is gold powder 4k

[cerulean crypt]

It became possible to actually lose gear in the market resulting in higher prices for gear resulting in higher prices for crafting mats for gear.

[golden forge]

wdym losing gear in market

[stiff crow]

there's a joke about the human mindset where a guy's house is cramped and needs space, so he puts 3 pigs in his house and makes it worse, but when he removes the 3 pigs, the house feels spacious again
in ironmace's case, they are removing the horrible patch to make the game good again

[kind sphinx]

anyone know when next reset is or around when it should be ?

[cerulean crypt]

I'm talking about an actual loss in real supply. With Goblin recovery there are really only 2 outcomes for a piece of gear. Either someone yoinks it or it gets sent back to you. Either way the supply in the market doesn't decrease. More gear is always being looted so over time this generates a downward pressure on gear prices.

Now Goblin recovery doesn't apply to HR. So a lot of gear is permanently lost and removed from the market. This creates an upward pressure on prices as supply decreases.

[tranquil drum]

when is arena 3 comming

[olive dragon]

and i promise you that didnt happened. played since playtest 3. nice try tho.

[fair idol]

Which is how it should be… why are people crying when the game was most popular when gear was lost every time. High risk high reward. We don’t need endless gear in the game

[topaz lintel]

it wasnt

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[steady cosmos]

Why are cloaks price up right now ? They are like 300-400g they used to be like not even 100g a few weeks ago lol

[charred ice]

more players playing, more cloaks looted, more cloaks put on market, more undercutting, more price decrease

[cerulean crypt]

I agree. I think Goblin recovery is stupid.

[steady cosmos]

so you are saying theres less players playing rn thats why the prices are going up

[glossy veldt]

my game audio cut out mid dungeon

[cerulean crypt]

Guys the answer for why cloaks are going up is the same as why all gear is going up. No Goblin Recovery.

[steady cosmos]

they completely removed that last patch right ?

[ocean mountain]

mainly no gob and arena prep

[charred ice]

yes, when its people playing and trying to make bank, they loot and put up everything, making money, all the money collecting during this season is now coming down to spending your money, buying out everything on the market

people are done with making money, now its time to spend it

[main lintel]

is non minted arena a thing yet or unique arena?

[cosmic sparrow]

Removing AP loss and the goblin merchant disincentivizes people from bringing gear into HR; change my mind.

[main lintel]

100 % fights are boring and people are mostly in garbage........ its been mega boring

[sly lake]

Worst change IMO completely agree!

[cerulean crypt]

It technically does but people still bring it in because increases the odds of winning by a lot.

[somber mirage]

You are correct

[ocean mountain]

let’s get a patch going

[somber mirage]

Cringe

[eager carbon]

Remove Iron Will. Magic dmg is gutted no reason for that trash to exist

[charred ice]

what are you saying? when the ap worked different and goblin merchant was available, people would only run "gear good enough that people wouldn't pickup" just so they could get it back through goblin, which majority of times is just as good as whatever they found in the dungeon
if they brought decent gear they knew its getting swooped after a pvp
the only exception is times when they die to PvE and no one finds them, but for a hardcore extraction game, why are you meant to be rewarded with receiving your full good kit when you died to PvE out of all things

[topaz lintel]

jesus christ can they add a confirmation for "exit game" lmao

[plush quarry]

Bring b hop back

[charred ice]

the moment goblin merchant is back with swarm still in HR, you will have people running deep into the swarm just to die there and not be recovered, that's gonna be the "taking of static red/blue" you had a patch or two back

[plush quarry]

remove dark swarm no idea why they broughjt that shit bak

[topaz lintel]

just do what they did with ice cave void, if you die to void = dont get your items on insurance, if you die to swarm, dont get your items in insurance

[charred ice]

dark swarm is good, bhop gone is also good

[plush quarry]

br wain dmg

[bright sparrow]

why is there no one in my games

[mortal rose]

anyone know what quest lines unlock permanent rewards like emotes?

[errant bramble]

Always goblin, tavern master and i dont rember the 3rd one, i think treasorer or collector, just look which quest Line have a final quest alone

[odd nacelle]

Goblin, tavern master and collector or treasurer

[static pike]

D.E.A.D G.A.M.E

[lone wadi]

Add 0-24gs hr mode

[stoic jetty]

After suffering through 4 hours of playing the rouge class I finally got my level to 20.
Now I don’t die to mobs 😭
And most of my deaths are either from players or cave ins.
When it comes to cave ins how much hp do you need to survive them?

[shy vector]

Can someone explain to me the wailing ones door and forsaken knight's door and how to open them?

[ocean mountain]

you have to kill spectral and banshee respectively for each door

[shy vector]

?

elaborate pls

[clever furnace]

does the perk where you get 7 mkagical power when using bare hands to cast on sorc mean i cant use gloves?

[dapper junco]

cave ins?

[ocean mountain]

if you kill banshee the banshee door opens if you kill spectral the spectral door opens

[shy vector]

are these bosses?

[ocean mountain]

yeah

[shy vector]

wdym bruh

[tiny ether]

Ur a bot

[ocean mountain]

mb yeah it’s in ruins

[shy vector]

ok thx

[stoic jetty]

I believe when the cave grows darker part

[dapper junco]

you dont survive, you either escape/go to lower level or you die, its end of map

[topaz lintel]

you need to find an exit or red ( down ) stairs before the timer goes out mang

[stone kernel]

any tips on farming unique gems besides just hitting pile

[jovial marten]

Every time I roam through a random Goblin Cave, I feel like I'm losing my mind. damn, random generation is amazing.

I get why fixed dungeons have intentional design. But the advantages of random dungeons are just too great to ignore.

[tawdry nimbus]

duos feels dead asf

[analog python]

Sorry to disrupt, but
during the first Open Beta, around 2 years ago, on the dev's website under their public kits, they had the entire library of sound effects used for the game. I had downloaded them at the time but the hard drive that contained it went kaputz last year and I haven't been able to find those sounds again. Does anyone have these files?

[ocean mountain]

unfortunately not but they should all be in unreal engine assets

[rustic mica]

they need to remove dark swarm its hot garbage

this isnt fork knife

[glad jackal]

They got to remove that fog of war, that's pure garbage

[analog python]

ah! Thanks

[pearl grail]

does treasure pile from bosses differ in loot from the other ones like key and crypts piles?

[distant flare]

17k players online nice

[mint nebula]

Anyone know if hotfix 81 for sure drops today?

[cedar rapids]

unlikely

[ocean mountain]

we prob get it on monday or tuesday

[astral cloak]

well i have spent 500+ hours on this game as a fight but when i tried out cleric it was fun, lacking in range and vary weak solo but fun and every time people died to me was bc they were cornored or chose to not walk away, are u losing to cleric? walk away and think how shitty player you have to be to not realize cleric is slow and weak in ranged combat

[stone lynx]

Games dead?

[jovial marten]

I find it fascinating that we have both Dark Swarm haters and Fog of War haters in this chaotic situation.

If you look at Reddit right now, people are calling it a whining cesspool.

If Patch #80 was truly terrible, everyone would be blaming Ironmace. But instead, the #80 haters have gathered on Reddit, while others are actually satisfied with the patch. This makes Reddit users look like a bunch of complainers who don't even play the game.

#80 is a truly interesting patch. It seems like opinions are highly polarized based on player preferences. I believe Ironmace is working on a solution that can satisfy both sides.

[astral cloak]

if they make such shitty updates like right now then it will be soon

[distant flare]

wipe less than month away 17k is really good

[ocean mountain]

i miss when you could stack cleric prots with blue prots and also when u could stack 5 healing potions

[blazing sorrel]

What once was great, is being made bad..
By devs who are dumb, and make their players sad.

[distant flare]

fow is okay but it should reveal more, little timmy cant even see the red portal on the map even tho its 30 feet away

[inner token]

is the mimic tooth used for something? i was searching on the wiki, but it doesn't say anything about it

[atomic condor]

Just a quest item

[stone lynx]

Does wipe include character level?

[astral cloak]

i think that would be op so its good that its patched out bc with high lvl blue prot and with cleric buff u would get 50pdr wich is op but the resent nerf was very unnecassary

[inner token]

alrighty, thanks ^^

[stone lynx]

Man at least give us 2 or 3 character limite... 1 is just stupid af

[astral cloak]

no

[stiff crow]

she random on my dungeons till i quit

[ocean mountain]

lowkey f2p players should def have 2 char slots that sucks

[stone lynx]

Thats dumb 😭😭whats the point then

[stone lynx]

• hr
  Whats the point of hoarding high loot if i cant sell it on market nor i can use it

[astral cloak]

well yes but no, fame remanes but lvl goes down to 1

[stone lynx]

Thats better

[astral cloak]

fame can tell you there total amount of lvls so u can tell that if someone is lvl200 and 200fame they are new or its there new charechter but if some one has lvl200 but 800fame means they played before

[mortal rose]

what gets you the most AP?

[scenic mesa]

is it recommended to migrate my account or should I just stay in the launcher?

[astral cloak]

but i would like a 3rd ability slot, like most fighter players are still runing sprint and 2ndwind bc other abilitys are just way worse

[astral cloak]

idk but i know that opening portals gives u ap so u can go around and open every portal

and as i remember it gives u a lot so ppl farm portals

[stiff crow]

100% definitely migrate to blacksmith

[blazing sorrel]

@zinc sparrow are you in charge of making decisions in this game or no? Can we please get a poll on updates or live reviews like Old School Runescape? It would drastically increaes engagement in this game - ensuring it's long-term survival.. @glad thunder @oblique isle @whole acorn @eternal bough Who else do I need to ping?????

[steady trail]

As awesome as that would be, would probably be unbalanced for a lot of classes

[stiff crow]

2nd wind isnt as good as you think once you try spell reflect, taunt, or adrenaline rush

[steady trail]

I personally use adrenaline rush

[astral cloak]

well i know but it would be good to have a 3rd ability

[spice dock]

Have they changed FOV? HAven't played for a few months and came back to try and our eyes are in pain because of the weird FOV 🤔

[hushed crane]

I have one question. HOW TO BEAT DRUID ANY CLASS??

[stiff crow]

the 3rd ability could just be for the perks that are least used by statistics
so you wouldn't be able to put 2nd wind in your 3rd slot

[austere geyser]

we need 5th perk not 3rd skill

[astral cloak]

spell reflection is good at a magic caster but rouges, bards, other fighters, rangers and more dont cast spells

[blazing sorrel]

@Graysun are you in charge of making decisions in this game or no? Can we please get a poll on updates or live reviews like Old School Runescape? It would drastically increaes engagement in this game - ensuring it's long-term survival.. @sdf @shoXy @Auberry @buoyant cobalt [DE/EN] Who else do I need to ping?????

[still cypress]

would be nice but they should really just nerf second wind it's been OP since forever and never gotten a single nerf. It's obvious it doesn't matter that they buffed shield slam and the others as people still use sprint and second wind

[stiff crow]

spell reflect is only for warlock curses, wizard fireball or hitscan spells like wind blast and zap

[weak sinew]

Please note that spamming pings on IronMace staff is going to eventually have you removed - you can leave suggestions in chat, Graysun may read it

[stiff crow]

you had me in the 1st half, not gonna lie

[jovial marten]

Today is sunday dude

[astral cloak]

i know but most of the time i die to rouges, barbs and rangers

[jovial marten]

They must rest. Because we torture them weekdays

[topaz lintel]

@zinc sparrow when will AP fee return to HR

[jovial marten]

We have AP fee now. Just its not AP, its gear.

[astral cloak]

one time i wanted to kill cyclops but a rouge wouldnt let me, and every time i chased him he would run away bc he was much faster and after 10min of cat and mouse and countless hand held crossbow shots later i killed him and gont no potions, no bandages, no campfire, no good loot, no dead cyclops and waisted 10min of my life

[charred ice]

there never was a real ap fee, since it was so generous it didnt matter, but it still swayed people away from going higher than certain threshold

[topaz lintel]

but gear is free anyway

[naive seal]

anyone been just randomly lagging out, but not DCing just stuck in weird animation

[topaz lintel]

we also need goblin merchant back to hr asap, sick of killing teams and only being able to loot potions and trash. 20 kills later not a single person even had a damn grimmy

[jovial marten]

Yeah, 200 gold trash epic weapon is almost free. I don't know how to control it. Maybe not.

[austere geyser]

i heavily dispute this, but let me get out of this run first

[charred ice]

if you needed to die 4 times to go even after 1 run in Exemplar, the ap fee's were just a strain on your mental if anything

[topaz lintel]

everyone says the ap fee is irrelevant until i suggested to make it 10x more in higher ranks then people cry

[austere geyser]

My problem with having an AP fee at all is that you don't have agency over what you do. For example, yesterday I pulled a gold chest from spectral knight pile... I love farming spectral knight. Of course with a chest I took a blue right away, at Exemplar 2 that would have been a big AP loss for nothing.

[topaz lintel]

how is it for nothing when you got a chest from it

[charred ice]

if you consider -100 a big ap loss...

[austere geyser]

I do, I dont want to grind AP, I want to farm spectral knight and players

[topaz lintel]

which you can do

[austere geyser]

In solos, the way people change when the HR AP system opens up changes significantly. Pete even had a video talking about it. That vibe has changed now.

[charred ice]

so now its better than it was, whats the issue

[ionic sluice]

what is the fastest way to grind xp to hit level 200?

[austere geyser]

There is no issue, its signifcantly better now than it was. Maybe we misunderstood each other.

[topaz lintel]

prob bosses and quests?

[charred ice]

im saying previously it wasnt as bad as people thought, but seeing they would take heavy ap losses, they would never consider playing it for fun, now its win or winner no matter what they do

[blazing sorrel]

Everyone is leaving suggestions.. Over and over..

[keen pollen]

Does anyone know how to fix the long load in times?

[topaz lintel]

ide rather pay 2x AP but have gear insurance

[upbeat swallow]

i need help selling something, ive let this item expire on marketplace twice over when its cheaper/same price as worse alternatives. also how do you link items in trade

[weak sinew]

No need to break rules because you feel you are unheard - be kind to the staff

[visual bloom]

@glad thunder PVP is my favorite part of the game but bringing back the random portals and zone isn’t the move. Sure it helps force PVP but also takes away from the dungeon crawler experience. The continuous lobby was a much better solution especially after you ironed out some of the bugs. If you haven’t noticed your lobbies are empty again.

[charred ice]

install the game on your ssd, it also loads longer into matches if its a new lobby (so start of timer)

[blazing sorrel]

I've tried being polite over nad over... The devs only listen when literally everyone is constantly complaining. Are you on staff? I'd literally love to speak with you if you are.

[charred ice]

I love the small little touch each person gives at the end, "I am right, because lobbies are empty now", everyone has their own way to emphasize how good they are with their suggestions

[peak shore]

do we lose gear in arena this weekend?

[charred ice]

yes, all non mint goes poof

[jovial marten]

Lmao.

I am, and maybe you are, too. We are evil people who gas light sdf

[visual bloom]

It was more of an observation. Not a suggestion.

[wind venture]

What are some great new season wipe gold making? (besides named/keys)

[visual bloom]

High level socket gems/ troll pelt/ spectral fabric.

[wind venture]

@visual bloomI hid the gold pile easily 300x. unique gems are a myth

[jovial marten]

Spider silk maybe good option for no high skill user.

[lament oak]

what is em in the trading post?

[gritty skiff]

lmao there is like 8 teams teaming on solos atm

[lavish spade]

late wipe AP clans what serever are they in?

[gritty skiff]

it was east coast, 24 gear score lol

[jovial marten]

Thats fine. 24 allow teaming

[lavish spade]

ohhh well that's just some weirdos

[gritty skiff]

well when it happens almost all interactions this morning as a new player kinda blow ngl haha

[jovial marten]

Just go and be them. Lets go 9 teaming

[gritty skiff]

never happened before tho. just this morn

[cedar rapids]

just hit it even more fr

[lavish spade]

yeah i wont say its super rare! but its still very odd when it happens

[gritty skiff]

it is what it is

[dire mesa]

no wonder

[crystal scarab]

Got dced during an arena match, now everytime i try to load in it tries to reconnect me to the match over and over. ive tried exiting/restarting the game 4 times and it keeps happening. any tips?

[languid cloak]

Ggz I think you are cooked

[warped stump]

hr is dead

[sonic mauve]

What server and map would you play if you want to PVP? Swear every game I go into im the only one in the server

[warped stump]

us east all maps

[topaz lintel]

dead, and when you do find someone, hes got 50 common potions and already dropped his entry gear on the floor somewhere and has nothing else to loot 😦

[obsidian shell]

US EAST, 25-124 GS bracket, Ruins

[warped stump]

normal is too soft

[violet furnace]

Buff Pickpocket

[sonic mauve]

Appreciate Y'all

[wind venture]

It's crtazy to me that a wizard is almost the... best melee class? Ignite with rondel, the shield. Just lost to someone cause the wizard had 181 HP what is... just crazy? Wizard shouldn't be able to do that.

[noble sentinel]

Will has been nerfed into the ground mate, if you are still complaining at this point you just got out skilled.

[warped raft]

Wizbarian 🙂

[wind venture]

@noble sentinelMelee wiz basically beats every melee wtf you mean xD

[noble sentinel]

Cleric melee is better, barbarian with iron will is better, I don't know what you want. At a certain point you gotta realize not every class is magically OP just cause it killed you once

[violet furnace]

Add more fun perks/skills and less murder. Make Rogue better by making Creep and double jump(without movement speed debuff) as a default character trait while combining stealth and invis mastery. Give Barb crush by default and so on...

[ornate mica]

can someone tell me when wipe is? im casual af and didnt see when seasons ended

[noble sentinel]

April 10th~

[ornate mica]

thank you

[turbid loom]

why so many cheaters in tokyo ?

[noble sentinel]

Closer you are to china the more cheaters you are gonna get

[jovial marten]

"XiaoZhao042"

[topaz lintel]

no

[violet furnace]

L. Bro wants this game to fail like every esport ever

[last hemlock]

I think i lost my account during the Epic > Ironmace transfer. Anyone got the same issue?

[violet furnace]

I don't know what to do cause my main is on Blacksmith 😦

[lapis forge]

So true

[last hemlock]

Just create a new email address and use both? I don't understand

[violet furnace]

Ah

[noble sentinel]

This game shouldn't ever be an esport in the first place, that's what makes games die and get stupid balance decisions.
But hopefuly when (or rather IF) they add in the talent tree we can get skills or ideas like this

[last hemlock]

I transfered from Epic to Blacksmith and it actually transfered my free steam account !! 😭

[topaz lintel]

no

[violet furnace]

This guy is a troll. W bait. Nice to see we still got reply guys in here lol

[jovial marten]

I don't see a talent tree as a solution.

Games with talent trees seem to offer endless possibilities, but in practice, only a few viable options exist—because humans are the ones balancing them.

If a talent tree were introduced, we'd definitely see some interesting perks. The mutual exclusivity of certain choices would increase the diversity of viable builds, and it could even enable multiclassing.

However, it would require a significant amount of resources to implement properly.

[stone lynx]

Are there any benefits from fame points?

[bronze anchor]

is double classing back

[violet furnace]

Yeah. Sadly everyone who plays this game has to meta game the fun out. Which is why the constant back and forth on balance has been killing the game when everyone who plays can feel the issues in the first 5 minutes of play.

[untold oar]

played 4 hr matches all empty lobbies lol

[errant bramble]

ITS an issue in every game sadly multiplayer are doom

[errant bramble]

And They wanna add a new maps ..

[lament oak]

do u have to use skull key in highroller?

[violet furnace]

Sadly yes. And people will often say "you can't perfectly balance this game" and they're very wrong. It's just never been tried. I don't think every class should be the same, but why does wizard, cleric, and druid have to sit on the ground when Warlock and Sorc exist?

[errant bramble]

No in normal you can without

[hushed crane]

How do you know who's hacker in this game? Like there is no things u can cheat in this??

[cedar rapids]

yes you can only use it in HR. In normals you can open the room without the key but it doesnt have the chance to spawn named items

[cedar rapids]

Theres ESP, reach and action speed cheats for example. I believe aimbot is also a thing

[hushed crane]

Which religion should I choose I can't understand what's their difference? ._.

[tough shuttle]

Is there now a way to merge the former Epic Games account with Steam?

[cedar rapids]

there is no difference atm. They all give luck and the same rewards

[hushed crane]

You can merge Epic Games account to Blacksmith launcher

[hushed crane]

Which one is cooler?

[violet furnace]

Sun god

[cedar rapids]

Most people choose solaris. But all of their "lore" is kinda ass since its just the description and nothing else in the game has to do with them so far

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[stone lynx]

Bring back warlock 5 stack

[noble sentinel]

I mean there will always be a meta but how is that any different to how perks are now? Anything that increases build diversity should be pushed for. In a game like this more people are willing to experiment and have fun, especially in norm's (where 50% of the players stay)

[wintry mango]

where does the rubysilver ore spawn? me and my party searched in hell but didnt found it, perhaps we just missed the room?

[noble sentinel]

Spider lair is the best module for it in hell.
But you can also farm it in the first level of ruins, the room with the 4 states with the healthshrine in the corner. The statue with two arms has a hidden lever and you can go down, 1 ruby ore always spawns and sometimes there is two ores

[topaz lintel]

there is also 2 spots in ruins ( a cave ) and also a mini-boss area that spawns it

[wintry mango]

okay thank you!!!

[ionic needle]

Ya'll think a flail weapon would make it to the game? Even the two handed flails?

I dont know how these would work but maybe it wraps around the shield and hit's limbs or the head if you aim it well

[jovial marten]

Absolutly. It must

[ionic needle]

Drawback has to be it flying around meaning youd hit the area more often if you decide to go in tight spaces

[surreal mural]

hey guys how do i find exits now in HR? i cant see any on the map

[noble sentinel]

I'd 100% love for a flail to be in the game. But I highly doubt it'd work great in here cause we don't really have physics for it and since hit reg is client side would probably lead to lots of attacks looking like they didn't hit that did, etc

[woeful plume]

Also in the ruins are up to 3 golems that can drop either cobalt ore, rubysilver ore or gold.

[fallow hatch]

Are the game servers down? When I try to load into the game I get a pop up saying “failed to connect to sever” “ quit game”

[wise crest]

sup guys. so, i won a arena game and i lost 11 points, is that right?

[violet furnace]

Run around like a headless chicken until a blue shows up

[ionic needle]

I see

meanwhile for the upcoming monk class could give us Brass knuckles or dedicated gauntlets for us to use or just bandage wraps. I would like variations to my unarmed hits, it would be nice seeing possible unique weapons from this monk we'll be getting one day

[stark oar]

how do i report when im ot of the lobby?

[fleet garnet]

When will Druid be fixed?

[ionic needle]

I guess so. I dont know how hard is it exactly to make a flail weapon work in dark and darker but it would be nice to have to give clerics and the possible paladin class some extra weapons and a different playstyle

[noble sentinel]

I mean we know they are reworking unarmed combat for monk. So lots of cool shit to come, might be the first class to get me off druid.

[topaz lintel]

isnt monk supposed to have a staff?

[noble sentinel]

I mean I'm sure it'll be a build for it, but there is a quarterstaff already in the game

[ionic needle]

Please I hope they give us unique knuckles or bandage wraps that influence our attack pattern. Maybe one where its focused around chest strikes or perhaps heavy gauntlets that allow a hammer strike or uppercut

[topaz lintel]

lol so its just gonna be lee-sin 😄

[obtuse stream]

tricky, cause then you need an obvious visual to let other players know what type of hitting pattern to expect, like we have with diff weapons

[noble sentinel]

Monks did hand to hand combat before league....
Or Iron Fist if you need references to other media

[ionic needle]

I cant wait for another dedicated melee class to come in. Friend of mine thinks it would be like a support barbarian in dark and darker

I hope this monk can tank also Id love to tthrow hands with the nearest fighter

[noble sentinel]

DnD monks are also soft casters sometimes who work like the avatar (the air bender) and can do elemental attacks. They can also manipulate Ki to do kamehameha waves
So we will have to see how they implment them in DaD

[ionic needle]

I woulddnt mind a caster. Like how clerics being a tanky caster in dark and darker

Or perhaps a middle ground between wizards or clerics

[teal pilot]

If we get another caster I might tweak

[ionic needle]

I mean youd focus alot more on how they move their bodies. Like for the uppercut they would slouch down and proceed to drive it to your chin

Or its like how the rondel dagger going straight forward.

[smoky remnant]

do i keep my items in arena that are marked by found by?

[ionic needle]

Ughhh I cant wait for more content, hopefully not too focused on balance changes cuz this game would have alot more players to do more stuff

Im excited for this monk to come out

[wise crest]

guys, is it normal to lose rating at arena after winning a game?

[noble sentinel]

This would be best case scenario IMO. If they just have lots of skills, no spell wheel. And could have options like uppercut or roundhouse kick.
I think they said they wanted to try to get monk out soonTM (next season) but it's not likely

[smoky remnant]

yes if you are high and dont do much dmg

[charred ice]

you keep stuff on the character that you found it on

[wise crest]

i was second most damage and most kills

[wintry mango]

Do any type of oak chest count for "Oaken up" quest or only oak chest, like small oak chests count yes or no for example?

[woeful plume]

Just oak chests. Small don't count.

[ionic needle]

My god I would love this. Tho I think feet moves should stay with skills. I hope it would make for another brawler class to go up against the big 3 clerics, fighters and barbs. Maybe the caster part is more for covering your fists in elements like fire fists like in the concept art with the monk present

I hope they give us the WIP state like they did sorcerer

[wintry mango]

aw, alright thanks!

[noble sentinel]

Or the WIP state of bard when we first got it
Where half the songs didn't even work and it was basically a dud of a class. But yeah maybe if they see enough people complaining about the lack of content updates recently they will push it out sooner than later

[ionic needle]

Less balancing changes that piss people off and more content to attract more players is what this game needs. Because as much as I want them to fix cleric's buffs to 15 seconds instead of 6 or 8 I would like more content to attract future players

[terse dust]

why is it that every single match I've been in since 2 weeks ago has been a rubberband fest. i don't understand, its insanely annoying.

[topaz lintel]

no freeekin way episode 11 gonna end like dat im gonna pull my hair out

[gaunt kelp]

Sounds like a skill issue

[shy agate]

How much is a ultimate emerald

[terse dust]

must be, i guess im just not hardcore enough.

[gaunt kelp]

lol exactly that’s the mentality they want

[drifting smelt]

Is the high roller dungeon just filled with geeks?

[graceful storm]

when non minted arena

[drifting smelt]

what

[charred ice]

patch 81

[cobalt relic]

anyone know which three give the cosmetic rewards? goblin, tavern guy and who else?

[ionic needle]

I know this is too far in the future...But how would an artificier work in this game? Like after the eventual paladin which Im gonna guess comes out next year

[keen elbow]

do you get your lad back if you go down a floor??

[torpid rain]

Remove the circle from the game or iam gonna split both cheeks and spray black tar all over next public bathroom iam in.

[ionic needle]

No. It forces highroller players to fight eachother

[topaz lintel]

no it doesnt lol

[noble sentinel]

Goblin tavern, and collector I'm pretty sure.
If you look through the quest log and scroll to the bottom it'll be the guy with a solo quest

[terse dust]

i gotta agree, it really dosnt

[graceful storm]

it kinda does tho

[ionic needle]

Yes it does ive had more encounters than ever with the swarm back. Also there is no problem with the swarm just go deeper within

[terse dust]

nah, people just run to reds instantly and then hang out in one room until a blue shows up lol

[karmic quiver]

What happened to the game that I can't log in anymore? It's saying "Failed to connect to server."

[keen elbow]

do you get your lad back if you go down a floor??

[topaz lintel]

if its epic games then you need to update it and transfer to blacksmith launcher

[terse dust]

No im pretty sure

[karmic quiver]

I'm in blacksmith

[topaz lintel]

oh, should be working then

[ionic needle]

Then they should tweak it I understand warlocks are a pain in the ass sitting and constatnly healing themselves but other than players hanging out they should keep the swarm in highrollers because again those who want a fight are forced to go deeper to meet others

[karmic quiver]

Are you able to get in?

[exotic bronze]

@karmic quiver then it's your McDonald's internet or something, keep trying

[topaz lintel]

on steam yeah

[ionic needle]

I wish there was a healing reduction within the swarm because I still see those pests sitting in a corner

[radiant furnace]

the swarm forces nothing its souly annoying. This is a take of somebody that hasnt played HR at all. The swarm does very little damage and theres plenty of exits outside of the zone. Its literally implemented for 0 reason other than to annoy people and kill the player base.

[cobalt oriole]

If you read the patch note and not just regurgitate the crap you read. You would see it BIG LETTERS LIKE THE REST OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT. 70%reduced healing in sworm

[manic shell]

NO

[topaz lintel]

in arena only

[ionic needle]

Well then they should make the swarm do more damage might aswell stop people from using spells if your very deep within. They already removed statics but in my opinion they become unusable within

[jagged furnace]

can anyone else not remove their base gear from squire?

[topaz lintel]

i dont know why people think mindlessly forcing everyone to rush to middle of circle to pvp is somehow genius game design

[ionic needle]

Read it again and slowly Go ahead and read the patch again

Also repeat what that person told you here

[terse dust]

Big L brother.

[cloud musk]

[pallid jackal]

Good day chat - remove fog of war

[cinder dust]

based

[ionic needle]

I agree why is it in normals. I was under the assumption it would be for highrollers

[radiant furnace]

because they are the bottom % of the player base that theyre trying to cater too. They even said they wanna appeal to the noobs

[topaz lintel]

it would be super insufferable in high roller to also have fow tbh

[graceful storm]

eh I disagree

[ionic needle]

It makes sense to make it harder but why on earth is it in normals. What about the new players who havennt paid for legendary.

[topaz lintel]

HR is hard enough though, 100% does not need FOW. But then again, Normals doesnt need it either. its just a stupid game mechanic. offers nothing positive to the game.

[cloud musk]

it does lol, normal needs fow

[sweet marlin]

it does not

[dark pagoda]

guys in the new update for goblin caves the gold has been removed ?

[sweet marlin]

nah its in another module

[cloud musk]

either keep fow in norms or remove boss drops from norms

[cobalt oriole]

More than anything FoW is for streamers who kept crying sTrEam sNipErs

[dark pagoda]

oh damn inside those stone doors with weird names ? on the square module with revive in the middle

[topaz lintel]

yup

[keen pollen]

are ruby vestments still worth it for wizards with the magic dmg nerfs?

[ionic needle]

I can agree to this. I dont know what SDF was thinking this would be good considering peeps in squire status cant even go to highrollers . And when people want to practice bosses like troll and cyclops as a start before they move on to the others. Its pointless to make it have fog of war there and it should just be randoms and nothing more

[sweet marlin]

yea that weird stone door indeed, the stinking troll door and sth idk lmao

[modest mica]

Hot goblin girl skin when?

[dark pagoda]

hahaha alright dudes thanks very muchh

[terse dust]

idk man, it takes like 10 mins to get geared enough for HR

[sweet marlin]

np man

[topaz lintel]

Exactly. These devs always want to throw 10 different shits at a wall with this game every patch, hoping something sticks, and 90% of the time its a fail.

[rare venture]

You are usually getting a lot of defensive stats, so ruby robes are great with max health plus built in PDR, then hopefully as many stats as possible. Getting 50% magic damage is still good.

[topaz lintel]

one eyed something something door cant remember lol

[terse dust]

my bad didnt read the whole thing.

[ionic needle]

I was about to say something but dont worry. I just want new players to practice and get warmed up to the game cuz I had a friend who hated it at first until he played more months after. He hated squire status

And the nail in the coffin was when I told him about the wipes

I had to get used to losing all of my hard earned loot starting out

[topaz lintel]

extraction games without wipes would be so boring after couple months

[blazing pulsar]

if silence is going to stay in the game then make a spell that will stop melee swings and bow shots...

[ionic needle]

Yes but some people dont like their hard work going to the dumpster. I understood it especially with the economy but not everyone is me and you who doesnt mind the wipe

But now he doesnt mind it as much but I still hear people thinking the player count is too low

This leads to my dislike for being shoved in late lobbies

[topaz lintel]

yeah player count is low because towards end of wipe but its MORE because of this TERRIBLE patch imho.

[stoic jetty]

How many days are in a wipe?

[terse dust]

between 1 and Infinity

[ionic needle]

Yes the patches that makes no sense. Good god hearing people's favorite classes beign stoned saddens me when they want to try their favorite dungeons and dragons class. I reminded my friend that his buffs are terrible when he played cleric. DIdnt want to touch druids or bard to buff people but wanted cleric

Again I hope moving forward , I keep saying this is more focused on contetnt than it is for balancing because they are terrible at it

[topaz lintel]

but then you will get people complaining about balance all the time if they just focus on content. cant please everyone. imho though they need to stop with new content, we just need a new map and then stop adding new classes. and just fix the damn game. at this point we will have 3 maps and 50 classes that are all unbalanced and broken and in 15 years the game will still be incomplete

they also need to make up their minds, is this game going to be fully balanced to trios or not, instead of this weird back and forth every wipe

[rich horizon]

i went to hr for the first time and died to mobs, maybe i need to get better at hitting them before i go back 😭

[topaz lintel]

it takes getting used to if you are new 😄

[ionic needle]

Yeah im aware of that. People complain and complaints arent being listened to.

I know new content would just be a bandage but it would give them time to make a proper decision than half baking it. Or better yet listen to more players.

[plain folio]

Saying it like the game will be alive in 15 years, with the path im geussing 6 months max before they shutdown servers

[ionic needle]

Dont worry its your first time. I suggest you listen to PVE guides because you are gonna need it along wwith practicing it

[charred ice]

its always all about baiting a hit out, hitting when they're on attack cd, and not to lure many troublesome mobs at once

[ionic needle]

Nightmares are veeery different especially some of the more annoying skeletons like axeman

[rich horizon]

i’m watching videos on how to kite and farm all the different kinds of mobs. but i’m still learning the layouts of the maps, so sometimes i accidentally pull too much at once or try to run but aggro more mobs and die

[topaz lintel]

helps if you play a class that can have a bow of some sort too ( like rogue with his hand crossbow )

[charred ice]

if anything, just never kite "inside" any of the modules you havent explored, its just a chain reaction to having 10 mobs on you, fun stuff

[ionic needle]

Yep sounds about right. Take things slow. Attract one at a time with bows or crossbows or if you have good aim chuck a torch at their bodies. Pretty soon youll be owning groups of em without a single hit

[prime crypt]

Cause they’re pvp drones that want a medieval battle royale

[rich horizon]

i feel like such a noob every time i end up dying in a corner lol. but the spatial awareness and map awareness will develop in time. i want to try something ranged though since i have a cleric right now

[cinder dust]

i mean im a main PVP hunting player and even i dont like circle xd

[topaz lintel]

cleric is good if your on ruins though. has good abilities to kill like 4-5 skeletons all at once

[cinder dust]

any reduction in player agency is cringe IMO xd(unless its a mechanic that breaks the game EG hotswapping)

[prime crypt]

I just liked being able to choose looting and bossing or only pvp, but now it’s almost only pvp

[charred ice]

cleric might be the most annoying one to start with, warlock is a good one to go instead, especially seeing the PvE perks, phantomize out of any problematic scenario, and even closing yourself in the room and killing everything with hellfire through the wall

[cinder dust]

i agree,i like having the agency to do as i please,and for others to have the same agency

hell ive just started to play barb,game wants me to ooonga bunga things ooonga bunga i shall xd

[topaz lintel]

exactly. bad game design = 1# RNG elements, 2# restricting players freedom.

This patch added to many of both things.

[cinder dust]

yknow i actually agree with ur point lmao

[rich horizon]

i ended up going with a cleric because i died so so much on other classes. warlock seems really fun, and i prefer magic/mage type styles of play versus melee, i just had an assumption it might be too hard

[cinder dust]

cleric is amazing i mained cleric for like 1/3rd of this patch,and warlock with torture mastery is a really easy to get running caster,as u essentialy have infinate HP with mobs around

[topaz lintel]

if you are playing goblin caves do something other than cleric but imho if you are playing ruins cleric is actually good for newbies.

[charred ice]

warlock been the easiest class until they added druid, but druid isnt something id recommend in the beginning

[stable echo]

Warlock is a really good class to learn how to fight mobs on because it has a lot of healing built into its kit so you can make more mistakes without dying instantly. Just don’t get to used to making a ton of mistakes or you’ll be screwed for other classes

[cinder dust]

and phantomise as a get out of jail free card

[prime crypt]

Yeah I’ve played maybe 5-10 matches since the patch and I can’t be bothered to open it anymore. I just read stuff in here for now lmaoo

[rich horizon]

thank you for all of the advice everyone. i’m going to go make a warlock and try it out

[cyan escarp]

CuRsE oF pAiN

[topaz lintel]

make sure you get curse mastery ( i think thats the name ) otherwise you will die to your own curses

[charred ice]

gl, shadow touch, infernal pledge, longsword and gg

[ionic needle]

That and vampirism for extra healing.

[topaz lintel]

yeah i mean if you havent grinded demi thats kinda the only reason to play at the moment otherwise meh

[prime hemlock]

anyone try out crystal sword builds after the magic scaling nerf? how do they perform?

[unkempt zodiac]

good

[wintry mango]

whats the name of that room

[stoic jetty]

So wipe hasn’t happened yet? lol I’m new at the game

[topaz lintel]

not yet , 10th april

[sonic mauve]

Whats the point of buying gold chest if were close to wipe?

[topaz lintel]

ask yourself if its worth it to you lol

[sonic mauve]

im jw cause I see people asking for it all the time on the market. Thought I was missing something

[topaz lintel]

oh nah they prob just got to much gold

[noble sentinel]

Cause the item itself is worth money. So people trade in items as it's more efficient

Same logic how people trade in skull keys. No one is actually trying to use them for their intended purpose. It's just an easy way to have gold value

[languid belfry]

sorry for the noob q, what can I bring into arena and get back? is it only crafted items or looted by me items as well?

[noble sentinel]

Yes

[languid belfry]

ty bud

[drifting spoke]

why does my game keep crashing?

[static rose]

can we just take druid out of the game already\

[stiff crow]

she randomize on my dungeons till i quit

[light oasis]

Hot take Hr changes are boring and noob friendly. No fog is easy to navigate and you can just take reds till you can edge portal, half the time I don’t see anyone. It’s fun don’t get me wrong but the opposite of what IM said.

[topaz lintel]

you said its boring AND fun ?

[light oasis]

Boring as in everyone rats, but fun because it’s easy to navigate. Circle is bad, but I’d rather have it than fow. Normals become so tedious to play.

[pallid jackal]

fog of war is bad

[light oasis]

I mean at least show me the entire module.

[topaz lintel]

yeah, if we HAVE to choose between swarm and* FOW, ide choose swarm. But neither of them add anything fun or good to the game

[light oasis]

Yep.

[copper crypt]

can someone join 225+ goblins solo? already played 2 games alone XD

[stoic jetty]

How long do they usually last when they wipe starts over?

[copper crypt]

guys pls?

[topaz lintel]

3 months or somethin

[stoic jetty]

Oh that’s much better than rust lol

[pallid jackal]

Update so good you have to beg people to play the game with you

[topaz lintel]

oh yeah 100% lol rust feels boring if it doesnt wipe weekly

[edgy gulch]

Someone help me for quests in castle pls

[somber mirage]

is arena still un-minted gear allowed

[stable urchin]

rouge been feelin a bit too strong these days, the rupture poison weapon weakpoint combo hit like reckless in gear lol

[wanton crown]

game is sub 10k players thats p bad no?

[stable urchin]

usually around where it sits, never climbs over but dips down to 5k at night sometimes

[charred ice]

its over 15k

[unreal snow]

remove the fucking mobs from arena

[deft trail]

The mobs are a part of the enviornment in the game what?

[unreal snow]

arena, the pvp focused mode of the game, does not need extra mobs trying to kill you

[deft trail]

You have to deal with them all the time unless you happened to have cleared the room. and Fact is using those mobs is part of PVP

[plain folio]

its not but ok

[charred ice]

how come? was just playing, there were 9k in dungeon, 8k in lobby

[plain folio]

7k in dung 6k in lobby

[unreal snow]

you can literally lose games just because a mob has been chasing you the whole time and only focus on you instead of the enemies in front of them

[charred ice]

kinda unfair for warlocks not to have anything to heal off, bro needs some skellys

[calm jewel]

Its the last month of wipe so the pop will be low, also coming on the heels of a bad update that changed the game too much

[cerulean crypt]

I was actually kinda surprised how high pop was today

[deft trail]

You can lose an entire kit to that in a regular game tho. Its more realistic pvp than without them being there.

[unreal snow]

in the regular game you expect and want pve not when you're actively hunting eachother down

[deft trail]

I think most people expect it in Arena as well in a PvPvE game

[unreal snow]

nobody expected it in arena

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[forest jolt]

Do you think they're keeping the randomized/dark maps?

[deft trail]

Weird cause my entire friend group did. Dealing with the Ai is part of the game In arena and normal games. Rogues Using stealth to drop mobs on you is a part of their Kit period, Removing the mobs takes that away from them. Let alone Fighters using them to Parry reposte, or a lock to heal etc. Theirs tons of reasons to have the mobs in the Arena.

[cerulean crypt]

The PvE behaves in entirely predictable ways. Their aggro isn't RNG or anything it's absolutely determined by last damage source, or where this is no last damage source distance. So it's very much an element that skillful players can play with and around as part of their match.

That being said I personally would prefer raw fights without PvE.

[noble sentinel]

Randomized is here to stay, it's one of the best changes the game has ever had since launch.
Fog of war? Probably I hope it goes on to be in HR as well. Since without fog of war people can still just rush down modules if they know where everything is

[cerulean crypt]

That's why it isn't in HR though. If everyone rushes to the hotspots it means getting to loot them requires winning PvP.

[devout hull]

hard to say, they added circle back after all this time without it, i hope they remove fog and random and circle and go back to peak but who knows

[noble sentinel]

I mean the current way circle works forces everyone together regardless. Especially in trios where the random portals are only 1 man

I do think they will change up HR again, just no idea in what direction they are gonna push it.

[cerulean crypt]

I've been playing a good amount of HR since the patch and my experience is the final circle is usually empty. There isn't a ton of fighting there.

[stable urchin]

games just cooked they cant decide if its a solos game or a trios game and its killin both player bases

[noble sentinel]

HR trios?

[woven reef]

agreed there is rarley anyone in final circle

[cerulean crypt]

Solos and Duos

[noble sentinel]

You ignored my point then. The random portals are fine for solo/duo players. But trio players aren't going to be using 1 man portals as often

[forest jolt]

It makes it so much harder to play as a returning player. I used to have a annotated map I made for my party so we could remember generally where we wanted to gravitate. Now it feels like most of the game is based off of where I happen to spawn, to a much, much higher power than before. Very frustrating to relearn the game with so much less commonalities between each round

[cerulean crypt]

Well, do you think FoW should only be added to Trios then?

[noble sentinel]

I mean we might still get them removing solo/duo queue entirely for HR next season like they talked about in the table

[cerulean crypt]

I actually do think it's be a good thing to do. But I don't believe Ironmace will do it.

[forest jolt]

If they had a decent playerbase they could probably seperate it into multiple queues, but they kind of killed off most of their new players it feels like

[devout hull]

yeah i think it's a bad change. newer players disagree because this way they don't have to learn the map, and they haven't gotten to the point where they start wanting to do specific objectives each game and are fine just roaming randomly. it gets really dull when you're past the point of random farming modules and want to target bosses/pvp/ore/etc

[cerulean crypt]

They're way too afraid of their own players to do things that upset them.

[cerulean crypt]

Isn't that just the intended effect? They want it to be good for new players and hamper experienced ones. That's the point.

[lone garnet]

no they arent lol, they just did

[cerulean crypt]

True but that's why I expect a revert.

[devout hull]

intended or not, it's not a good change because eventually new players get experienced, then they realize the flaw with the system they advocated but it's too late and they wind up getting bored and quitting too

[lament oak]

whats a good kit to run on bard?

[woven reef]

EXCACTLY its so terrible having to roam around the map the entire game just to want to mine It just slowly drains the life out of me

[lament oak]

:(

[devout hull]

yeah im like 2.5k hours played, and was playing pretty consistently until this last patch and i just went from loving the game to being completely demotivated to play it and haven't touched it since

[forest jolt]

I really want to start bosses, but the only one I can consistently find is the lich. I'm not able to start on the cave troll or anything because me and my kit are completely at the mercy of where it spawns and if I run into people. I'm back to where I want to do quests and progress further in skill and items, but I'm incredibly limited by luck. Very frustrating

[cerulean crypt]

Ironmace shouldn't care if people get bored and quit. If they want to make their game successful it's more important to get new players invested at all. Even if you lose them once they hit 500 hours or w.e., it's better to have had them at all.

[lone garnet]

...

[devout hull]

well they want to be a hardcore game, typically that means catering to more experienced/hardcore players, not newcomers that will quit out short term anyway, you target the longterm audience

[noble sentinel]

I mean I think it'd be healthy for HR as well despite being a solo HR player. Force people to use gathering hall more and their random queue system. If they keep it where HR doesn't lose AP on death then I think less people would be angry about accidental or random deaths against premades. So time will tell only 25~ days left

[clear pendant]

theres no arena player who really wants pve in arena, just ignore that guy

[woven reef]

yeah but this game isnt advertising itself for new players and not many new people are coming to this game this game thrives off of veterans and I highly doubt that will ever change

[keen pollen]

Oh you wanna play arena? no. triple ranger on other team.

[woven reef]

they need those players to stay in order for this game to stay alive

[cerulean crypt]

I don't think so. They've spent pretty much the entire last year making the game easier and more appealing for casual/new players. The HR change to a more 'hardcore' design is mainly because they've realised nobody plays HR anyway. If casual/new players don't engage with HR at all no matter how easy they make it then they can have their cake and eat essentially. Have norms be the casual noob-friendly wonderland they've been working on for a year while HR goes back to how the game was in the playtests. But all this said HR is still a tiny fraction of the playerbase- it's not the main game mode. That's actually 0-24.

[woven reef]

but they have literally said they want this game to be more hardcore that theyve been straying away from that aspect

[lone garnet]

they have said this recently

[cerulean crypt]

Probably. DaD suffers from niche competitive game syndrome. New players can't compete no matter how easy Ironmace makes the game. Experienced players will dumpster them for 100 hours and 99% of people won't play a game for 100 hours just to start taking Ws.

[inland egret]

anyone know how to fix rubberbanding??

[devout hull]

all they ever needed was a rough, hidden, elo system, remove gs brackets besides <25

[forest jolt]

buy new everything

[hasty ice]

Buff slayer

[woven reef]

I agree entirely

[cerulean crypt]

They want HR to be more 'hardcore'. To quote the Dev QnA

"Additionally, we have been constantly considering the fact that players with a gear score of 0-24 make up more than 50% of our player base. We have been working to make the game more suitable for casual players by testing various gear score pools and exploring ways to make dungeon escapes easier, allowing players to achieve at least minimal success. However, this also resulted in a loss of game tension and made the experience feel dull.
As a result, we have decided to completely separate the two modes, with High Roller mode returning to its original vision. "

[terse dust]

seriously, WTF is going on with the servers these past few weeks!? ive got fiber internet, only my PC connected to it, EVERY SINGLE MATCH DURING PEAK HOURS IS A RUBBERBANDING NIGHTMARE. this legit only started 2 weeks ago. ive dont EVERYTHING i can think of, i even went as far as trying to isolate the IP for the server i get sent to in order to ping it in command prompt to see my ping on the servers end, it stays at 40MS solid, i have no clue why this is happening but its INFURIATING when im legit unable to move every few seconds for seeming NO reason! does ANYONE have any idea wtf is going on or is this SOLELY my issue!?!?!?

[cerulean crypt]

I kinda agree. A basic MMR system and reducing the number of queues could be a much better solution.

[celest maple]

how is using a HE keyboard in dark and darker? about to get my own soon

[honest dirge]

anyone know what the mdr cap is?

[terse dust]

65% im pretty sure

[stark belfry]

guys im very late on my interact with golden chests in ruins quest from weapon smith, do yall know if doing it in norms with rogue would be alright, i dont see many golden chests in normals. (i already got 3 done )

[honest dirge]

cool. thankks

[lone garnet]

@terse dust have you done any driver updates recently ? it might not be the case, but it was for me.

[fleet pelican]

Yes that works

[terse dust]

no not since before this ever started, i guess ill check for any updates currently. but im going insaine lol

[blazing pulsar]

don't forget that this game is a direct reflection of the developers intelligence.

[deft trail]

Way to provide anything useful to the conversation to support your side. Instead state your feelings and say ignore him. GG

[lone garnet]

@terse dust sometimes you have to use the right drivers, updating to newest ones might not work

[rapid hornet]

#📢announcements message

anyone knows how long will the code last ?
like for example I login to epic copied my code uninstalled game on epic but I dont install the game on blacksmith yet and hold off until I feel like playing

[candid gate]

When is wipe?

[pallid jackal]

remove fog of war

[gray ether]

Around 10 minutes from getting the migration code.

[candid gate]

When is wipe

[charred ice]

in 26 days

[blazing pulsar]

meta builds are cheating so report them

[bright nest]

Do you lose anything if you transfer your account from Blacksmith to Steam?

[fast geyser]

servers eating ass today?

[noble sentinel]

If they can kill me they are cheating. Report them

[unreal snow]

what is wipe

is it just everyone losing progress

[woeful plume]

Wipe is kind of like Diablo 'seasons'. When the current one is over, they wipe the servers, leaving you with only your characters/names and back to level 1.

[charred ice]

can you even transfer your acc from blacksmith to steam

[manic shell]

yes

[charred ice]

then I wonder why they never brought it up, being an option moving from epic to blacksmith, and then blacksmith to steam

[manic shell]

oh my b
its just epic to blacksmith i believe

[noble sentinel]

You can't. It was a one time thing when they first released the steam version.

[charred ice]

it was a one time thing, then they removed it, then I think they put it in again, but I havent seen it being suggested recently or mentioned by anyone

[fervent relic]

hi guys, what class should i pick? my friend plays ranger and my other friend barb/rogue

[graceful storm]

druid

[fervent relic]

but idk how to play him, constantly attacking with the bear and it doesnt seem i do sh*t to them

[graceful storm]

druid is VERY gear dependant but the strongest class in the game rn

[fervent relic]

what about wizard? should i pick him?

[stone lynx]

Ur message and ur name 😭

[noble sentinel]

You only transform when fighting players. Against mobs you are always gonna be using spear.
That said use what you find fun. Though it'd make the most since to play a healer if you are caring about team comp.
Heck you could go life bloom druid and not even worry about transforming anymore since it disables it and go full healer.
Alternatively healer cleric or just going Bard

[winged apex]

Are religion rewards going to be changed to permanent rewards? This season only stuff is kinda cringe

[graceful storm]

panther against mobs is best

[noble sentinel]

What do you mean? The cosmetics are permanent.

[cerulean mason]

wizard is kinda dead now bc of magic nerfs
@plush quarry do NOT bring back bhop

[plush quarry]

bring back b hop

[winged apex]

Red text underneath rewards list says all rewards are this season only

[fervent relic]

alright thank u guys for help

[dapper junco]

all reward ITEMS, emote and skin are permanent

[noble sentinel]

"In game item"
IE not cosmetics....

[winged apex]

OOO i cant read based thx yall

[short otter]

I think fighter is the most fun and easiest to get a grasp of the game from. That or ranger. Figter forces you to learn the mob patterns and is ver versitile. Ranger allows you to heavily damage mobs from range in a sustained safe way plus spear.

[dapper junco]

the skins crap but the emote is sweet, throwing bags of gold like a rapper with terrible financial ideas

[unreal snow]

do you keep your gear in stash tho?

[dapper junco]

nothing. just name and fame level

[noble sentinel]

No you lose all that, you even lose the stash tabs and quest progress.
It's so everyone is on equal footing again

[dapper junco]

i also think it's fun personally, this would get too boring without wipes lol

[warm notch]

any one in need of a fence

[winged apex]

Na ikr I love throwing money around, wish the skin was better tho

[woeful plume]

Don't get too attached to gear in this game. Easy come, easy go and there is always more gear just waiting for you to pick up so if you die, or lose it, don't worry about it, there's plenty more.

[rich horizon]

i just got one tapped by a barb as soon as i opened a door that was terrifying LOL

well i didnt have much on me anyways i was just trying to find the boss room

[leaden lion]

witam serwery wyjebalo

[ashen holly]

wyjebalo serwey moze naprawicie

[next raft]

Guys how does the map work in game?

[drifting wyvern]

is true phy good on barb?
or should i just go action speed or pdr

[rain geode]

what quest on alc unlocks grim?

[cobalt oriole]

Depends what Gear bracket, barb builds change depending on -124 224 224+

[noble sentinel]

Press "M" to open it.
Unless you have a more specific questionn. Goblin caves/Castle are RNG rooms now. However certain rooms will always be in certain spots. IE Graveyard will always be along the wall of ruins and never in the middle

[dim mortar]

can say im officially done with this garbage

[dusky oxide]

can i use bought gear in arena yet?

[fervent anvil]

just cause you dont like the game anymore dont make it bad :). take time off if your not having fun :)

[dim mortar]

nah game just isnt good now

Was a good run though

[noble sentinel]

Best season they've had to far. I've put more hours into than any other season. So that's just like your opinion man

[dim mortar]

player count says otherwise

[ember temple]

Yeah i stopped Playing too, i hope it will be more balanced someday

[noble sentinel]

It's end of wipe, this is par for the course of extraction games.
You need to be less angry and like others said take a break. Burning yourself out on a game isn't healthy

[dim mortar]

yea maybe, new updates is garbe. Going backwards instead of forwards lol

who said anybody was angry, stop projecting. I havent played it a lot recently either what are u sayin

[noble sentinel]

Yeah haven't played a lot but game is bad and you feel the need to project it here? Sounds like some cope to me

[dim mortar]

In comparisson to last season, I have played less. Cause it sucks.

[slim dome]

Yes, that's why everyone hates each patch more and more

[cerulean crypt]

The playerbase just hates change

[dim mortar]

why did I need to break that down

[hard rock]

I dont like games or change either cause I'm poor but I do own several types of gold in Dark and Smarker 2

[small dome]

when are we gonna see the ranked rewards already?

[next raft]

so basically there is modules that are always on the edge and modules that are only at the center? Because I see some sources like the interactive map saying they are static but in game there aren't

[lyric lark]

so when wipe

[noble sentinel]

None of them are static anymore. Only ice caves/abyss are static

[dim mortar]

Yea even hitting demi god which you can do in one day, and getting rich which you can do in a day or two the game still isnt better

[cerulean crypt]

Demi in one game 🤔

[noble sentinel]

Typical grifter spouting lies to back his emotions

[still karma]

yeah they made the game way to easy.. reddit always wins

[next raft]

But the stuff in the interactive map are still true like its chest locations and items

[fringe zealot]

Goomba fallacy.

[cerulean crypt]

They made the game easy and people complained so they made HR hard and people complained

[noble sentinel]

Correct, rooms are still the same. Individual rooms won't change but where they are at in the map are

[dim mortar]

Coffee, you can hit demi god and get rich in one day. I did it last season and this season lmfao.

[nova onyx]

How to get good on the game

[dim mortar]

play rogue and use hide. Its easy and rondel most op weapon in game

[noble sentinel]

Plays lots and watch guides. The average player who is good has 500+ hours

[cerulean crypt]

If Ironmace changes stuff people say they should just make more content and leave the balance alone. If Ironmace doesn't nerf something within 1 week people talk like they've abandoned the game.

There is genuinely no winning and I'm so sick of Ironmace bending over backwards to appease a mob that will simply never be happy.

[stone lynx]

Is warlock weak or do i just suck at it?

[cobalt oriole]

Lmfao another who think scrubtube builds are the best when they arnt. So ya know. Scrub toobers use rondel because they cant aim lmfao castion shts on it hands down. Thats why Icefang is a castion and the only dag that has True Dmg on it.

[dim mortar]

People would treat them different if they didnt suck lol, and give us proof of that over and over.

[noble sentinel]

This man gets it.
They make changes that sometimes even I don't agree with, but it's never been a "the game is dead cause they made this one change now I can never play again"

[stuck crystal]

Can someone help me to kill wyern please?

[dim mortar]

I dont use daggers or play rogue btw. rondel has the most dps with an endless pattern. Its common sense and a known thing stupid

[mint nebula]

@zinc sparrow hotfix 81 drops when??

[nova onyx]

@noble sentinel i want to know how to deal with skeletons thier range is high attacks can't be dodged unless a miracle (the mele ones)

[dim mortar]

also who tf said anything about a scrub tube build? What are you on about

[cerulean crypt]

Well, I think that's what you should do. If you don't like a patch or change just stop playing. Heck that is what I've done. I'm one of the few that was gutted when they removed Multiclass and I quit for a few months afterwards.

[mint nebula]

@zinc sparrow ill even take an estimate man im FEINDIN HERE T . T

[noble sentinel]

They all can be dodged by the simple pattern of how you deal with most mobs. Bait and then attack. Don't go for your full attack combos.
Depending on your weapon/class you can also start blocking with shields or even weapons like spear/longsword

What class you playing now k4reem21?

[wet tendon]

there is no way wipe will be ready for 15th

[noble sentinel]

You mean the 10th?
But this has been the longest season we've had. They said the pirate map was finished but the swimming mechanics were what needed to be fleshed out more, so we will see

[rough current]

its 10th of april? or am I wrong

[mint nebula]

@nova onyx if you want ill run through the mobs with you hop in Duo party 178

[nova onyx]

@noble sentinel a no axe barabarian

A quad staff is the favorite wepon

@mint nebula sorry playing with a party of 3 right now

[gritty scroll]

You should be able to dodge any of the normal mobs fairly easily. And I believe the staff can be used to block

[mint nebula]

no biggie you can also request a knight at the lobby, its how i learned warloard and started wyvern

[uncut siren]

Why do people walk through my wind blast half the time why doesn't it work at all

[gritty scroll]

Iron will?

[noble sentinel]

Quarter staff has very little range, but as barbarian use the shout that fears enemies and just focus on being very mobile. Just go for 1 or two taps at most. Then stop swinging, since attacking reduces your movespeed by a metric ton

[uncut siren]

Does iron will negate wind blast? I have not played in a while I thought it was just magic damage negation

[nova onyx]

@mint nebula @noble sentinel thx

[uncut siren]

Wait what the hell is the point of wind blast if the one class I want to go away literally ignores it

[gritty scroll]

Not all barbs use iron will

[subtle heart]

Man I’m just tired. Iron mace is just a headache now. Two games in a row just lagged and killed by mobs, every time I play iron mace it’s just a hassle and annoying. These dudes suck at developing. And hr gear can’t be retrieved even though it’s THEIR FAULT

[uncut siren]

So far they have

[gritty scroll]

I mean... It's a popular perk for that exact reason

[noble sentinel]

Rock paper scissors exist. You can't counter every class. But barb is strong but also has 0 ranged options so you have to poke and run

[eager ginkgo]

how dare you have minimal expectations for smegmahammer

[real basalt]

all games are empty and the worst part is , if you get stuck against some stupid PVE bs... you still die and cant buy back your gear.. awful.. not playing again until we have the preupdate back

[uncut siren]

Thanks even though I didn't ask you gave me a synopsis on the class you are so kind.

Instead of poking and running though I think I'll just swap to barb so I can just achilles heel franny and then run down every class that 'has to poke and run'

[noble sentinel]

I mean if you think barb is the best class in the game more power to you.
As a druid I find them pretty easy to deal with, so I'll wait to see what class you complain about next

[plain folio]

Jesus not the druids

[uncut siren]

Isn't druid widely considered the strongest class and very broken?

[noble sentinel]

Any class that people die to is considered the strongest

Ranger is probably the actual best class in the game right now due to double dipping strength for bow with back step spear

[cerulean crypt]

"Best class in the game" is hard to interpret because it depends so much on the context

[lean peak]

Druida nerf when?

[eternal storm]

+1

[cerulean crypt]

If you look at Arena performance then Wizard is the best class in the game.

[eager ginkgo]

ranger counters most classes and most maps including arena is very open

[cerulean crypt]

Well, it's inarguable that Wizard is the highest performing class in Arena.

I wouldn't agree Ranger counters most classes. That's really weird phrasing. It has a good MU against a lot of classes. I'd probably only say it counters Sorc and Wizard but even that can depend a lot on context.

[uncut siren]

Okay mr druid

[fathom raptor]

Did the B goblin maze have ore removed?

[small vale]

how is the game looking? Stoped playing after the patch 69 fiasco

[lean peak]

Im not talking about arena.

[cerulean crypt]

Did you even say anything?

[ocean mountain]

druid slander will not be tolerated

[small vale]

did they added fishing yet?

[lean peak]

Ye i said nerf druid

[small vale]

any new content or just random balance changes? I saw that they added sorceress

[cerulean crypt]

And you didn't mean to nerf it only for Arena? Cool.

[lean peak]

I didnt play arena at all..

[cerulean crypt]

[lean peak]

nice pic of u

[gritty scroll]

Gob caves is random now, and they've added / reintroduced some modules.

Oh and ruins is random now too

[noble sentinel]

Hell is also a 5x5 instead of a 3x3

[pallid jackal]

Remove fog of war

[mint nebula]

@zinc sparrow hotfix 81 when? pls bro we just wanna use our nameds in arena

[edgy raptor]

whats that low poly medieval game called again

[mint nebula]

Morrowind?

Pumba typing a whole reddit post out here

[edgy raptor]

huh no thats not low poly

[slow crest]

Would it be cool or op if they made it so that crystal sword had a blocking hotbox during the charge animation? Maybe if you get hit with anything higher than a 2 impact it breaks your block and if you get hit with anything at all it cancels your cast to block it? I think it would make it more appealing for the lower tier use since nobody really uses them below epic grade. and since they're two-handers that don't get good till higher rarity that basically means they're only good in 225+ imo... Just a thought. Thematically I love the crystal sword, I just wish I felt compelled to use them instead of my white bardiche when I find a blue one in hr lol.

[rapid nest]

what module is the treasure room after you kill cyclops /troll

[iron lagoon]

Does anyone know, if you had Dark and Darker - Legendary Status on Epic, will that transfer over to Blacksmith?

[split gate]

yes

[flint crescent]

does anyone know when the next wipe is?

[iron lagoon]

Was that "Yes" to my question Arky? if so, thank you! 😁

[noble sentinel]

April 10th~

[split gate]

yes it does transfer the legendary status

[south pebble]

do I get anything more by getting higher ranks on different characters or is 1 enough? (my first season)

[charred ice]

1 is enough

[polar reef]

its now the room where the revive shrine is with the 3 mummys and skelly crossbow

[fleet pelican]

I think the first two ranks give you consumables and gold for the characters that reach them

[wraith wigeon]

Is the game good again?

[dense sable]

Far from it unfortunately

[jolly musk]

when is hotfix81?

[severe hamlet]

sorry for stupid question, but how to group-chat? I'm confused with blue and green chat colors.....

Is every message without /w in group-chat?

[fervent anvil]

prob a week before wipe happens

[blazing pulsar]

spell casting bug fix when?

[jolly halo]

[fickle vale]

im begging for random maps to be goneeee

[wet tendon]

why

[limpid remnant]

i have arena problem. After evry connect it instantly disconnect me with banner: "The match is currently in progress. Wait while we reconnect." and i can recconect afte 1st round if I die.

[wet tendon]

happed to one peg alot, u will not be able to reconnect

[upper hinge]

how long will the epic to blacksmith transfer last? am I late? 😦

[lean shale]

update the game fast back to last patch

[limpid remnant]

and did he fix it?

[tawny aspen]

cant stand druid why did u add this class

[cobalt relic]

Anyone know when wipe will be?

[blazing pulsar]

dont forget this game is a reflection of the developers competence.

[wet tendon]

no its a bug. u loose ur stuff. move on.

[mint nebula]

april 10th-15th '

[plush quarry]

brong back b hop

[fervent meadow]

how do i report a teammate in arena? "r" doesnt work ...

how do i report a teammate in arena? "r" doesnt work ...

[rustic laurel]

Damn i really thought the update would make the game playable again

[merry vault]

does anyone know if you can still transfer from blacksmith to steam?

[blazing pulsar]

capslock

[left pagoda]

did they mess the game up more after the last update?

[brisk dune]

why did they nerf bard and take away his group utility when druid and sorc are so oppressive?

i think they just take the new classes out of the game until they can be balanced correctly

[zenith garden]

those guys teaming up in solos are boring, no updates on the reports

[rough narwhal]

Arena season is over right?

[eager ginkgo]

yes

[polar reef]

is it safe playing arena rn or its possible to lose gear

[sterile wadi]

Is the best AP farm abyss or ruins rn

[rare oracle]

I am encountering problem where player is invisible and then hits me with knife while invisible. Then none of my abilities work and he kills me. Solutions?

[halcyon girder]

play barb

[plain canyon]

does strength scale with ranger, say a longbow will it increase its dmg ?

[sterile wadi]

Yeah that’s a problem every1 has dumbest class in the game to be honest. If they were too remove it no one would care honestly

[halcyon girder]

no u need magic power for it to actually increase damage

[olive mural]

squire gibs 3 saved loadouts meow? this p cool 😄

[plain canyon]

what

[hallow bison]

bring back hotfix 79

[sterile wadi]

Bring back the first 2 days of beta when rogue got temp removed

[hallow bison]

and continues dungens

[fleet pelican]

Yes it does

[dry hedge]

when is wipe

[halcyon girder]

10th april

[next raft]

So the frost mountains are static but the maps in goblin caves and the ruins are always procedural?

[rich horizon]

i understand that goblin caves are random, which means the boss could be anywhere right? or that it only has a few fixed patterns for where it spawns?

[gritty scroll]

Probably only a few places it can appear

[swift totem]

f

[gritty scroll]

Based on how the modules link together and how the boss rooms connect

[uncut cove]

Ok bro. I've literally had several games, both in the playtests and in HR today, give that guaranteed portal.

[olive dragon]

cool my dude, never heard of a bug? its ironmace and everything they do they retract and need fixes. full stop homie.

[rich horizon]

ok thanks ! still learning the maps

[cedar rapids]

they dont connect anymore. Now you gotta kill both and then find cave altar to access the gold room there

[gritty scroll]

Oh ok

[rich horizon]

theres.. 2? 😨

[cedar rapids]

theres cyclops and troll

[rich horizon]

oh ok cool. i read some guides on the troll. its just hard for me to traverse across the map quickly bc i dont really know the rooms or where im going

[copper crypt]

guys start duo on goblins 225+ europe

want to meet someone instead of 5 or more alone lobby in a row

[heady ridge]

+1 weapon dmg or +2% - 2.7% PDB on spear?

[cosmic swan]

Weapon damage, always

[dusky barn]

why i got a 2k second tk timer bro???? wtf

[charred ice]

how much damage is the spear
2% off 40 is more than 1 wep dmg, like the guy told you, its wrong

[dusky barn]

35m tk timer is crazy bro wtf gg game

[copper crypt]

11k people online and Im getting empty lobby on duo goblins since 2 days like wtf... guys just play game. On ruins the same..

[heady ridge]

46, has 3 max health, 2 phys power, and 1.8% action speed, also is frost, im changing debuff

[charred ice]

2 phys power is +2% dmg, its literallyt as simple as +2% off 46 dmg

2% off 50 is +1
so if you have a wep with over 50 dmg, 2% bonus is better than 1 wep dmg

so its not always 1 wep dmg better, the lower dmg wep, +1 wep dmg +1 true etc is then better, high dmg weps profit from % more than a stiletto for example

[fleet pelican]

Doesn’t additional weapon damage scale with phys power though? I know additional phys damage doesn’t but I though add weapon damage did

[charred ice]

the way add wep dmg scales is, if you have +1 add wep dmg, the headshot modified works with the 1.5x

[cosmic swan]

Add weapon damage is litteraly +1 weapon damage so yes it's scale

[sweet sapphire]

a way to go down on the goblin caves would be peak. Make it the spider caves with a giant spider boss

[copper crypt]

true true bro

[dawn moon]

wtf is cleric even about he just dealt half my hp

[civic ruin]

does anybody know when wipe is?

[oblique knot]

Is there pickpocket possible in arena? 😮

[cosmic swan]

No, you can't take the perk in arena

[oblique knot]

We lost our selffound stuff. 3 rings and two cloaks against a rouge. Strange. Thank you for response

[fleet pelican]

No that’s additional physical damage

[ember pond]

I think that every module in ruins should be the bridge module

[copper crypt]

ok guys 225+ ruins duo pls start game want to meet someone

[rapid nest]

qi agree

[charred ice]

thats the same for additional and wep...

[jolly falcon]

Yall is the game dead ?

[idle shard]

game is full of cheaters pathetic ass game devs and engine

[pallid jackal]

remove fog of war

[rapid nest]

play highroller

[idle shard]

cancer ass fucking devs

[timber osprey]

chilllllllllll

[brisk mason]

Yes and no add wpn scales off phys power bonus, then is effected by armor, limb or head multipliers, etc.then add phys is the same but doesn’t scale off phys damage bonus

[timber osprey]

can i get a cooler shield to play with

im tired of the heater shield it sucks

[rapid nest]

lantern shield

[timber osprey]

no. its ugly and too small

[fleet pelican]

No it isn’t, the additional weapon damage you can roll on a weapon gets increased by physical damage bonus. Additional and true physical damage like what you can roll on rings doesn’t scale with physical damage bonus at all

[glossy veldt]

this game has codes?

[dusk jacinth]

Run #6 in a row where I haven't seen the vault module for the quest /sigh

[grand forum]

remove FOW

[timber osprey]

remove FOW

[dapper junco]

keep FOW, thanks sdf

[noble sentinel]

add FOW to HR

[dusk jacinth]

remove map and mini map forever k thx
j/k

[dusky oxide]

can i use bought gear in arena yet?

[dire nymph]

Holy crap remove cliffs from arena

[glossy veldt]

What’s FOW?

[grand forum]

fog of war

[glossy veldt]

What’s fog of war…

[atomic condor]

the black over your map that you have to discover by navigating the map

[glossy veldt]

Ohhhh (yeah remove that (I’m a new player))

[low cloud]

anyone else unable to get into the game rn? just getting the failed to connect to server message

[timber osprey]

Blehblehbleh

[low cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-gif-27574448

[dusk jacinth]

click your item then click search under 'My listings'. Does exactly what you ask

[dapper junco]

lmao

[pliant tiger]

Should there be a gear score for arena or is that stupid

[tawdry oasis]

can someone help me, i want to buy an item thatll hold value so that i dont have so much gold in my stash, what item/items can i buy?

[pliant tiger]

idk wolf pelts or some or like a void blade

[tawdry oasis]

will something like a skullkey lose value towards the end of the wipe?

[pliant tiger]

i mean since wipe jus go crazy with your gold

[main lintel]

wipe isnt for like a full month......

[pliant tiger]

Should there be a gear score for arena or is that stupid thing to ask tho

[tawdry oasis]

idk i just need something small that i can buy a lot of so i can have my wealth on diffrent characters without having to buy a million stashes

or 100 coin bags

[timber osprey]

Hi

[lethal summit]

Placing a "looted" item onto a same kind "handled" one makes a pile of 2 handled items, that's cringe.

And if you separate them the looted one is transformed into handled

[grave jasper]

change FOG for only HR ‼️ ‼️ ‼️

[main lintel]

100%... having no fog for hr but having it in normals is the most backwards mindset ever

[grave jasper]

right 😭

most players in HR already know where to go and not having it normals makes the game so much less beginner friendly

[main lintel]

especially after they made this big song and dance about "we want high roller to be a hardcore experience" but then next patch... here... have a full map layout with NO fog of war hahaha and complete map to every boss and POI..... absolute hand holding

[grave jasper]

😭 😭 hardcore experience my ass

[tawdry oasis]

idk if someone can help me with this 😓

[main lintel]

anyone that thinks this game hasnt lost its way from the original game design is blind... the game used to actually be great. and mobs hit harder... our weapons and damage was MUCH lower. it was great.. now its making it like fortnite more and more every patch

[grave jasper]

gems and skull keys if u have the money

[tawdry oasis]

is there a specific gem i should buy and do skull keys lose value later?

[fossil blaze]

CAN IRONMACE PLEASE FIX ARENA QUEUEING I JUST LOADED INTO A MATCH AGAINST TWO RANGERS AND A LONGBOW FIGHTER ON LIBRARY 😭

[grave jasper]

i miss old dark and darker when everything was much stronger

[main lintel]

and player damage was MUCH LOWER!!! time to kill was so much longer

[grave jasper]

i miss being more scared to pve then being scared of not being able to leave

[main lintel]

i have messaged you if you want info. pm me

[flint wyvern]

Anyon having long queue times? it was usually instant sitting like 2 mins...

[rich horizon]

what the hell is this skelly floating around with a butchers axe? hes so fast wtf

[elder mulch]

ranger buff was NOT needed

ironmace wth u thinking

[thorn agate]

MORE RANGER BUFFS

[fleet sundial]

easier to kill warlord by killing or ignoring the ads?

[rapid nest]

yes more ranger buffs and more barbarian buffs and weapopn mastery6 giives 50% damage bonus

[hot nova]

Hows 225+ right now? Is it still dead?

[dapper junco]

It's the Wraith, it's a sub boss

[flat token]

give buff rogue 220 hp

[rich horizon]

the area where it was was pretty small, i kept trying to loop like dbd but i got caught eventually lol. to dodge the hits do i need to do the crouch look down thing? i was just poking it from a distance

[fossil blaze]

circle to its left, if its anything other than a nightmare one then you'll be fine if you keep the right distancing

[dapper junco]

i think its the least stress to just circle him or lead him around static object as you hit him, or climb onto something and hit down on him

[rich horizon]

tyvm

[charred ice]

for wraith, you just circle right+jump on each of his attacks, unless its the hardest nightmare wraith, then just cheese

[west oyster]

Is there going to be a wipe soon? And how do we know?

[charred ice]

both his standard attack and dash do not hit you on circle right jump @west oyster they announced wipe officially april 10th

[west oyster]

Ty

[runic harness]

Do you still lose items in arena if bought from market?

[stone lynx]

Thats higher than barb 😭

[charred ice]

yes

[random swan]

Most busted thing about Druid is gear score considering no need for weapons, he outclasses everyone in 224 or less.

[indigo ginkgo]

Runing Valheim with mods is much more fun!!

[tame mica]

Dies anyone else feel like cleric was absolutely gutted?

[random swan]

If you’re running 10 spells it did and you shouldn’t be running spells at all at this point, Druid is the healer.

[tame mica]

i was running 5 spell, still feel like i lost a good portion of my power

i guess i can just switch to judge smite, but its just a different class almost

[random swan]

Running 3 healing spells with magical healing Is probably still decent in trios. Don’t focus on will the curve is gutted.

[rich scroll]

why i cant sell ultimate emerald on trade, everything works but when i try to put emerald it says you cant trade with this person

[autumn grotto]

Do people actually, generally like random dungeon or is it just veteran/long-time players? I was just fully learning the map before they implemented the change, and I hate it.

[rapid nest]

as a veteran its prettyyu lame

[autumn grotto]

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I don't even know if it's possible to successfully clear two bosses during a match, they might as well remove the treasure room that unlocks from clearing both bosses.

[pallid jackal]

its possible but the good RNG required is crazy lol

[autumn grotto]

Yeah, I don't know why they would make Goblin Caves so rng based, I felt like that was the playground/practice mode for players who are unexperienced or learning the game.

[flat canopy]

when is the new update

[elder mulch]

bruh why am i dying in 3 hits to a ranger i have 220 hp and 30 pdr

[pallid jackal]

raengr

[dense fulcrum]

when is next patch thursday?

[elder mulch]

yk i have to get close to the ranger, and after i get close if god forbid i dont take damage before hand he can pull out the 5 shot with each arrow having 20% pdr and god forbid if that doesnt work he backsteps twice and pulls out the spear

golden child ranger is wild rn

[sonic maple]

Screw ranger

[acoustic sage]

I feel like this game desperately needs some form of damage feed back like a log post death.

What's rangers running these days?

[primal lichen]

Hey does anyone know when the wipe is?

[wary magnet]

arena has total dmg but i think they should show how much dmg you dealt to each person and how much dmg was dealt to you by each person

[elder heart]

anyone know where cyclops is at?

[pallid jackal]

Goblin Maze A

[acoustic sage]

Ye thats interesting what's the ins and outs of arena can I just go in there with squire gear?

[urban jetty]

They've said April 10 might be when wipe happens, it could be mid April though.

[primal lichen]

Awesome thank you @urban jetty

[elder heart]

and where is that at

[wary magnet]

no restrictions apart from unique gear (for now)
but you do lose anything that doesn't have the "Found by..." tag with your character's name on it (for now)

[acoustic sage]

Interesting thanks is there any benefits like if I kill some guy do I get their stuff?

[wary magnet]

no it's really just for fun, you gain nothing unless you loot the chests and enemies inside the modules themselves

[pallid jackal]

goblin caves is randomized you just have to stumble on it

remove fog of war

[wary magnet]

play hr

[rigid lagoon]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇹 🅾️ 🇵 🅰️ 🇹 🇨 🇭 7️⃣ 9️⃣

[low vine]

Frost caves

[pallid jackal]

thats a whole different game mode with a whole different vibe

[pallid jackal]

its only gonna be non fogged for another few updatessss

[hot nova]

Go play another game. You dont make the calls. Ironmace does. Get a life.

[gilded grail]

their should be 2 arenas 1 that maxes out on legendary items and 1 that lets you bring uniques and named items

[atomic condor]

worth noting, ignoring arena, we already have 288 separate dungeon queues in the game to split the player base

[scenic wren]

Why don't druid animal forms cost knowledge? I feel like that would honestly fix a lot of the spam

[gilded grail]

^

[sage rune]

D/D mobile is better

[scenic wren]

I really think it wouldn't be a big deal if you just put the animal forms on the spell wheel instead of having a separate one either. Then give druid some active abilities

[glossy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/ronald-mcdonald-point-wink-gif-1122406417951465225

[fleet violet]

Remove druid already class shouldn't be in the game...

[woeful plume]

Druid is a standard hybrid class in dungeons and dragons...which is what dark and darker is.

[vast current]

how the hell do i farm gold ore now? i just got back to the game after a month and the GC boss rooms dont link anymore

[pliant tiger]

d/d mobile some buns

[cosmic anvil]

How would you recommend a player share their distaste for the patch?

[woeful plume]

I find most of mine on golems in the ruins. Sometimes there are three of them to loot. They drop cobalt, rubysilver and gold ores. Copper in normals.

[inland wadi]

Worst patch, high roller boring. random portals bad (harder to get out, lame, duo trios need to split up and cant get out together, literally just increase interaction time or time to leave in blues, that solves camping blues), storm sucks (cant do what you want to do or go where you want to go, limitations for no reason forcing PvP with the same 20 players playing high roller. No goblin merchat or insurance (50k-100k kit chads dont want your gear? too bad, it goes to the void, no one gets it and you don't get it back. Tarkov figured this out forever ago. The difficulty of the game is AI and PvP, clearing 10-20 nightmare mobs a room to hopefully find a random portal at the end while also PvPing with no insurance is not fun. Player drop incoming.

[drowsy oxide]

wwhen was the last wipe

[copper crypt]

guys start lobby on ruins cause I want to meet people

[topaz lintel]

They are always about 3 months apart

[median mauve]

hey, if i transferred my account from epic to blacksmith will the legacy remains or should i transfer it to steam

[stiff crow]

nobody in <224 HR

[drowsy oxide]

still doesnt answer the question of when was the last wipe

[fervent garnet]

Did IM confirm they are removing solo and duo queues in HR next season?

[uncut cove]

Evidently not
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[cloud spoke]

when is the wipe?

[heavy otter]

april 10

[drowsy oxide]

damn didnt know this game was full of toxic cucs

[jovial marten]

A talent tree could make multiclassing work well.

Talent trees are difficult to design, but by removing simultaneity, they naturally block overly toxic combinations.

Damn, though—a bare-handed Wizard sounds terrifying.

As for Sorcerer’s spell merging, the limitations on cross-class spell merge would probably push it to a level 20 talent, right?

[night folio]

Not dark and darker anymore. Their team separated from IronMace. Even mobile game companies don't wanna associate with them lmaooooo

[keen echo]

is it just me or is just random dungons kind of sucks bad rng just lost us the game thats not fun ied like to see if im just crazy

[drowsy jetty]

I migrated from epic to blacksmith and now I don't have champ stat anymore, is this a bug or was it mean't to be this way?

[iron slate]

is there any prize for finishing as top 3 on religion?

[tulip lily]

How are people surviving inferno in normals?? Literally 10 runs, no portal in 4 rooms. I can't clear five freaking rooms solo just to find an exit. Leaves me 0 time for looting.

[dusk jacinth]

secure portal first then loot

[lyric valve]

Agreed, can’t even loot in inferno where the best loot is suppose to be but you have to spend the whole match securing a portal. Super dumb and can’t imagine how hard it is for new players to learn inferno

[umbral path]

druid gas too much in their kit and isnt directly countered by any class, nerf them

[lucid laurel]

How exactly does quest credit work, when in a party is it just who gets the last hit gets credit on the monster or what

[timid grail]

If you close to the the ad when it dies it should count or just get one hit to make sure

[worldly warren]

progression is shared doesnt matter who last hits. not sure if theres a niche range limit tho

[lucid laurel]

alright ty

[uncut igloo]

any idea when hotfix 81 will be?