game-discussion

[noble solstice]

Tailored Wellness quest for interact 3 shrines of health in ruines its bugged? i use it and still have 0/3

[prime crypt]

Agree

[topaz vale]

damn hide rogue is back huh , im playing rogue for fun then haha, do you just hide, stab or is it mosquito build

[unique rapids]

Poison, Creep, Ambush, Stealth, Rupture. Stiletto, w True Pys or Additional Psy, build HP/Dex/Ag

[loud marten]

I just looted and died with a Legendary Haze Blade. Orange, someone comfirm this is possible. 4 stat rolls other than the static and effect on it

[dense berry]

WOW, Steam Charts are the lowest I've ever seen it, what is going on? Is this yet another game dying a slow death?

[subtle goblet]

its just end of wipe numbers, people are assuming its close but we don't know for sure

[devout flare]

You need to interact with three shrines in one run. Without returning to the tavern.

[quasi marten]

i wish this shit would wipe tomorrow

[dense berry]

Ah, is a wipe presumably that close? I've still got 4 tabs of unused gear on 9 characters because I refuse to let anyone take my loot so I only play 0-24 in squire gear

[subtle goblet]

As i said no one actually knows for sure, people are just assuming so

[dense berry]

Understood

[wispy vessel]

DONT MAKE GOBLIN CAVES RANDOM LAYOUT -- I swear to god you guys keep making things less and less fun lol.

[subtle goblet]

Also the game is a bit stale so people are having a break as well

[subtle goblet]

I don't think a leggo haze blade is possible, can only be epic from my understanding

[noble solstice]

thanks

[edgy raptor]

In Arena: it says if i bring shit thats not Found By me i lose, does that have to be by my current character or any character of mine

[noble solstice]

can i see what quests unlock gear in squire?

[subtle goblet]

current character that has minted/crafted gear by that said character and you SHOULDN'T lose it in arena but there are some bugs that sometimes do cause minted/crafted gear to be lost so yeah

[candid crystal]

Thoughts on pavise shield slam pvp?

[edgy raptor]

no i mean like i found something on my bard for example, but im bringing it in on my wizard account

[candid crystal]

You can't do that unfortunately.

[leaden galleon]

NO GO

[edgy raptor]

bruh im gonna be a dissapointment to my arena teammates

arena is just whoever had no life and too much freetime grinded for top gear at that point

[subtle goblet]

no you can't do that, arena will yoink that forever

[humble bloom]

Yes

[blissful edge]

Not feeling great about that qna

[subtle goblet]

if you have high-end crafting available just craft some stuff

[random cargo]

bring back junk quality

[cosmic swan]

So what's the main theory on "High roller will return to a hardcore experience" are they removing CMM from HR? Or is it the door who don't open instant anymore?

[cosmic swan]

What wrong with it for you? It's a bit ligth for 3 week but it seem alright

[devout flare]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Goblin will no longer return things from HR. This will be pretty hardcore...

[blissful edge]

everything? random goblin caves, not realizing that the problem is not HR?

[scarlet viper]

what are the most important tasks to get done at first? im a fighter build btw

[blissful edge]

if they put fog of war in goblin caves my whole friend group will probably quit

[subtle goblet]

Ice caves about to become PACKED with people cause its not randomised yet

[cosmic swan]

That could be a thing, maybe not remove it completely but revert it to what it was, you get only part of your stuff back

[cosmic swan]

What's so wrong about the fog? It's no big deal for me, as long as you know how to clear/cross module fast. It could be improved tho, like reveal the whole module or a larger discovery radius but it's not that bad.

[blissful edge]

my whole friend group likes to pvp which revolves around hitting key areas where we know people are likely to be, if we have to run around in the fog we will just get a lot less fights

[hard rock]

Is this game better or worse then skyrim

[blissful edge]

personally i think a much bigger discovery radius would make it OK but just seems unecessary and anti-fun in the first place

[scarlet viper]

who do i sell ore to?

[cosmic swan]

Sure if you play purely for PvP you'll get less fight, not sure it will reduce it that much tho. People who want to PvP are just going to rush middle of the map and figth no?

[blissful edge]

who knows where they'll run, it was nice to know where bosses are and go straight to them

[sterile kestrel]

Marketplacr

[cosmic swan]

Don't sell it to a merchant, you should sell it on the marketplace. If you're a free to play player then ut should be collector I think

[scarlet viper]

yeah i realized as soon as i asked

[sterile kestrel]

Hell nah they sell for 1 or 2 coins, which is kinda stupid wtf

[scarlet viper]

what is the gold storage people aer talking about? my whole stash is gold and there isnt much to spend it on since i dont have flea market unlocked yet

[cosmic swan]

Yeah sure but going to key module you also fight people who don't want to fight and just farm. While with random map and fog people just need to set a new rule : You want to PvP go middle room

[sterile kestrel]

Theres a dude who sells gold coin purses, they store 50 coins each

[cosmic swan]

Free to play player can't sell on the marketplace so the only wat to sell ore are merchant if you don't want to craft stuff with it

[scarlet viper]

ok thats what i thought, are there like cases you can get in this game where you can put a bunch of items inside/ like tarkov

[sterile kestrel]

Why would you sell ore for 1 freaking coin bro, you mightbas well keep it

[cosmic swan]

You can buy small purse from the treasurer and craft some bigger one if you've done the Leathersmith quest

[scarlet viper]

ok bet

[edgy raptor]

no point playing this game free to play

[cosmic swan]

Agree, but lots of people do it anyway

[blissful edge]

also you'll unlock the market very quickly, like a matter of a few games if you focus on XP - key things to get XP: escaping, opening portals, opening big chests, taking items out of the dungeon

[sterile kestrel]

Ive played this game for 300 hours with no legend status before

[cosmic swan]

#discord-help you should be able to ask why here

[edgy raptor]

how

[fossil reef]

Do you guys think that new players would be turned away by the randomness in the dungeons?

[sharp panther]

Fighters about to receive some insane buffs

[dense fulcrum]

would love too se invis back to 1 stack and completely nerf rogue too the ground so no one plays it cause im sick of having 6 pickpocket rogues in my lobby waiting to third party you game is going to die if nothing changes i love this game but even i am thinking of quitting its just too annoying to me worrying about rogues 24/7 this isnt me complaining its a legit recomendation cause this shit is wack as fuck

[scarlet viper]

nah that would make it more fun tbh

[cosmic swan]

If they've played like 20-40h without random then it become randomized maybe. But if they start playing while it's already all random then no. It just different to learn not worst imo

[mystic fiber]

Well worded. most of what i didnt like about random dungeon was just relearning apart of the game that hadnt changed in a long time

[cosmic swan]

[mystic fiber]

🫃

[cosmic swan]

Random mob spawn would be nice to try too imo

[lost dust]

is rogue wizard warlock a good comp? what is a good one

[blissful edge]

🫃🫃🏻🫃🏼🫃🏽🫃🏾🫃🏿
🦵🦵🏻🦵🏼🦵🏽🦵🏾🦵🏿

[blissful edge]

three druids

[mystic fiber]

🤮

[cosmic swan]

Three everything xD

[edgy raptor]

does stacking health pots do anything

[fossil reef]

no it resets

[mystic fiber]

Nope, it used to if you watch old videos

[cosmic swan]

You can stack health pot with troll blood but that's all

[quick basin]

This game was honestly killed this season I feel, a lot of people stopped playing after the religion update, they killed the market and everyone's hard work for the season in 1 patch, it's bland and no one seems to like the bigger inferno and new maps, sdf also repeatedly makes the same mistakes and fires his team members instead of taking accountability

Several friends of mine who are knights are also saying the same thing. It's been an absolute crap shoot of a season

[charred scaffold]

Yikes Darkest Hour Ending Giving me Doungonborne Vibes. I don't wanna see DaD die such a sad state after 3k hours played.

[quick basin]

Im saying man, i love the game but this is ridiculous, how do they literally ignore their communities wants, like some things that I see thousands of posts on never gets fixed, the balancing is wacky af in DaD rn too, which has to do with the fact they don't listen to what's needed. They have made the same mistakes over and over these last 3 seasons, they don't test anything before they release it and it's constantly broken in some way or another every patch

[edgy raptor]

which melee weapon has highest attack range

[sleek lark]

bardiche or halberd most likely

[quick basin]

Halberd i believe

[edgy raptor]

which map is easiest to find players

[sleek lark]

ruins

[edgy raptor]

k

[edgy raptor]

where should i go? coz i dont find anyone at middle

[sleek lark]

the middle, the bridge, the room with spectral knight, or the room with the blue portals and red right next to spectral knight

[next mauve]

how do i get into the locked gate in square in ruins?

[royal thistle]

this game dead or what

[sleek lark]

dead asf

[edgy raptor]

whats a spectral knight, also im always looking at the point where u can look at bridge and middle at the same time

[mystic fiber]

not yet, its the same shit its al ways been

[fossil tartan]

i walys left out this game need to be 4 players

[sleek lark]

the room directly north of the middle. the room northeast of the middle also has players often thats the one with the red staircase and blue portals

[subtle goblet]

Hopefully by the time sdf gets around to playing ranger we can finally have quivers

[steady echo]

WHEN IS DRUID NERF

[near vapor]

That's the dichotomy - the general playerbase is clueless when it comes to good game design so you can't really listen to them seriously. You can get some sense of what's annoying players though (like quivers), but they don't really do much about that stuff

In fact, some of the worst changes came directly from player feedback

[marsh adder]

wipe is soon so yeah but it will revive next wipe for the first 2 months then it will die for the last month like every other time

[vivid vessel]

does slayer fighter still work with crystal ball?

[steady echo]

30 day timer aint even being showed yet? wym wipe is soon

[sterile anvil]

player counts have been consistently dropping since random dungeons were added. down to 12k right now.

[wheat ferry]

correlation != causation

[lucid heron]

buddy idk if you don't know or if you are just hating but soma yelled at sdf in his workplace, this wouldn't fly here.. so imagine in korea where they are much more hierarchical

[swift pebble]

WTF happen to gam

ded orrr?

[manic hill]

any new players? dm me

[marsh adder]

every wipe is spaced out 3 months it has been 2 months 2 weeks and like a few days so most likely it will be soon

[glacial pier]

Why does the game keep doing the 'no space' bug when my inventory is completely empty? I'm trying to accept the rewards of a quest

[mighty prism]

bUt iTs eNd oF SeAsOn BrO dUhh -typical ironmace supporter. Game is dying more and more every week/patch

[sterile anvil]

haven't even announced end of season yet bro we're so cooked

[mighty prism]

You know the game is dead when the discord is this dead lawl

[lucid heron]

y'all aren't helping either

[mighty prism]

No one can save this game at this point

[steady echo]

every wipe they do a 30 day countdown aswell on leaderboard, countdown isnt up yet

when druid nerf

[spark skiff]

just annihilated 2 druids and a fighter in trios i love this game

[mighty prism]

They will probably buff druid again knowing these devs

[steady echo]

lmao dont doubt it

[languid cloak]

There is a difference between a game that failed because it was flawed and a game that did not have a entire dev team and this game only failed because of the ladder it needed more people and money to be able to actually profit from and this games combat is horrendous and not enjoyable

There is no form of satisfaction when I press w and someone just falls over I like to actually fight people instead of running away throwing things or shooting things at people from a room away and lord knows I refuse to sit in a boss room as a rogue for the entire match to kill one person XD if this is the thrilling gameplay that dark and darker wants no wonder the games bleeding players

[spark skiff]

why are mobs allowed to idle near doors

[languid cloak]

Because this game is bad

[steady echo]

sounds like a skill issue

[spark skiff]

just got samwiched between a skele and gobbo while my barb teammate was being pounded by a wizard

[languid cloak]

Very literally only has people playing it because there is no other games to play in this genre

[languid cloak]

You like to hide infront of statics for 15 minutes as a rogue every game 🤨

[sterile kestrel]

I enjoyed killing people with legend status

[mental pewter]

is there any rhyme or reason for where the demon gate module is? like can it spawn on the perimeter or only in the center 3x3?

[dense berry]

rogues don't deserve being able to stealth, remove hide, thank you very much

[limber tiger]

anyone else dislikes the idea of having randomized modules in goblins/1st F ruins ? those are the last bosses we can effectively target farm for fun

[oak wasp]

So I started playing dark and darker mobile, and I’ve been curious about the PC version is this game worth getting into if I’ve never played it up to this point ?

[jovial viper]

At how many stacks do you usually try to stay before 3rd scream? I keep it too low then I can't grab souls in time, keep it too high and I can't hear anything

[rustic laurel]

day 25 asking ironmace to allow us to refund game if purchased at least 3 months ago

[cold spire]

day 69 asking my car dealership to take back the car i bought 10 years ago

[dusk grove]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[brazen ledge]

I love it. Best game ever

[subtle heart]

It's got so much potential, but the execution of this potential... I'm tired boss

[dusk grove]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[pastel nacelle]

which week?

[subtle heart]

Wise decision, give it a year or two maybe they will two into this potential in time

[urban grail]

the game dying?

[wraith girder]

when is wipe? anyone?

[lethal bluff]

when is the end of the world? Oh wait, nobody knows

[oak wasp]

I have been enjoying the mobile version

[languid cloak]

Your bad at the game if you don’t play rogue and camp statics in solo hr (I hate this game with a passion)

[clever zinc]

no

[languid cloak]

No

[clever zinc]

I love how melee wizard beats fighter, that makes sense

[dry osprey]

do not worry sdf is playing fighter now, he will add motorcycle to fighter soon

[languid cloak]

I bough all your videos queen @dry osprey ❤️

[clever zinc]

feel like the devs just buff whatever character they currently play (they all play rogue)

[subtle heart]

it dont beat fighter, but have advantage on it. U can make a mdr fighter and beat him.

[wicked terrace]

rat rouges mad annoyin

[clever zinc]

you dont say, devs dont care though

[dry osprey]

thank you i love you

[wicked terrace]

wrd the damage output is crazy for somethin that can camp corners and be invisible

[clever zinc]

in my opinion they should give rogue 200 hp

[wicked terrace]

posion rupture hide mastery etc the dps is wild even with a full buff power of sacrifice blow of corrpution with 45 strength and bloodstained blade i just sometimes cant kill em cause i get sneaked

[wicked terrace]

😭

[clever zinc]

ya you right 250 is better

[wicked terrace]

😭

[clever zinc]

is it bad I think EA or ubisoft could do a better job making this game

[manic hill]

any new players? dm me i have something for you

[shrewd ferry]

@glad thunder hey buddy...idk if u know this but if u make a weapon that has an amazing attack pattern AND CAN COUNTER HALF THE WEAPONS IN THE GAME WITH LITTLE SKILL... it makes u a complete imbecile

[worn lily]

someone just got parried lol

[manic hill]

regardless of attack patterns of a weapon, you can still outplay it with spacing and just choosing to not all in on the fight. im dead ass not hating at all. i know shit can be frustrating in this game. but weapon attack patterns can be learned with time, effectively making it something that can be played around

[wicked terrace]

or alternatively

spam magic with warlock hellfire or just use wizard or sorcerer

[shrewd ferry]

u cannot kill a longsword fighter with any mace or axe. I have been on longsword fighter with the same kit destroying ppl bc it's so op. It got boring so i had to switch lol

[languid cloak]

I can die happy Thank You ❤️🫦

[manic hill]

^ or play druid and just disengage from every fight

[languid cloak]

Try that when a sorcerer is on you XD

[manic hill]

yes you can. with spacing and game sense

a large percentage of longsword fighters just try to parry you while you hit them in the hip or legs

[wicked terrace]

sorcerer is really aim baised

[shrewd ferry]

i've been on both ends a barb literally cant kill me and when im on barb i cant kill them. No shit if im way better i'll win... a large percentage of lonsword fighters dont know how to play it. They swing at ur legs u poke them in the face and the fights won...

[wicked terrace]

ive played with some good sorceres trying to hit a panther or bear yes its realtively easy but chicken/rat form its really damn hard to hit making it annoying to play against

[languid cloak]

Not when someone turns into rat it’s the best free kill I love to get it’s so easy cuz of my aoe

[subtle heart]

Anyone who disagrees with longsword being op is delusional

[languid cloak]

Now consistently landing flame frost spear or like elemental bolt is hard because it can be juked ez pz

[lethal bluff]

your saying people can't/you can't, but didn't actually refute his point about spacing.... are you trying to claim impossible bait and out space somebody, or that you don't have the skill to?

[wicked terrace]

really just depends on the playstyle warlocks can out dps long swords and rangers and most mage classes can just run and shoot

[subtle heart]

Spacing is a myth, you will only space people if you have more movement speed period.

[lethal bluff]

thats like saying you will only out dps people by having more dps......duh

[wicked terrace]

almost all the people i see in arena do spacing unless ur running head first into someone ur gonna try to space out the m1s

[subtle heart]

You literally cannot space people that have more move speed than you this is simple math

[lethal bluff]

"duh"

[wicked terrace]

more move speed equals less armour/dps so u have an easier time killing them

[subtle heart]

Well duh I can, people in arena suck so they can't abuse the brokenness of movement speed well, you can space people who are bad at this game

[wicked terrace]

are u really saying everyone is just bad 💀

[spark dragon]

is there a way to report players for teaming out of game?

[craggy quest]

dude these druids make this game unplayable

[subtle heart]

This is not true at all lol, gear is op
And yes nik most people in this game suck

[shrewd ferry]

if a longsword fighter isn't a complete imbecile they will beat anyone with a weapon that is easy to parry. If u can bait or kite them guess what every fighter has a bow and pdr so they will win if they hit the same amount of shots.

[subtle heart]

[wicked terrace]

wdym thats not true plate armour gives u more dmg resistance but makes you slower weapons like halberd give u more movement speed debuff when using them cause of the long range and not all people suck gang

[vagrant orchid]

welp my buddy who owed me ten k gold just traded my chest to a rando that instant traded him in trade chat... love this game

[subtle heart]

Dude you realize agility rolls and frost light armor and so many other sources of movement speed exist? You can easily have 50+% pdr and have 160+ hp and be at max movement speed with your weapon out (on fighter you can anyways, if you run sprint)

[wicked terrace]

flame walker phantomize

[subtle heart]

Yeah there's many sources for crazy movement speed in this game and ALL of them need to nerfed

[wicked terrace]

nerf rouge

[subtle heart]

This game needs to slow down every caster is running at Mach 10 with a book out

[wicked terrace]

dark and darker is not this serious ;-;

[shrewd ferry]

book movespeed penalty changed to -20 instead of 10

[wicked terrace]

curse of weakness exists just run melee warlock with it allows u to catch em

[marsh pollen]

are they just done updating game now that a mobile version is out

[subtle heart]

Yes btw fellas please don't fall to the delusion that there's any competitive aspect to this game, this game has absolutely no skill expression whatsoever ever, 95+% of all fights are just a stat check

[subtle heart]

Mobile game is different devs

[wicked terrace]

dodge?

[lethal bluff]

I am not even bothering to try and write a good argument. You didn't even refute the point. You basically said that if you have advantage in a specific scenario then you win....Thats how advantages work if you have them under a given premise.

[subtle heart]

works against timmies, also works against veterans but hey rarely, humans do make mistakes after all

[shrewd ferry]

hey buddy... I am saying they have an advantage in most scenarios because it's op... that is what makes it op. Truly sad to see this

[wicked terrace]

u can atleast weave ur head so if they go for a headshot and miss they get punished aswell as if they happened to only go for body shots u can just out dps with headshots

[subtle heart]

Yeah everyone knows this

[wicked terrace]

i thought u said everyone was bad

[tidal plover]

on twitch is easiest till ur a trusted trader, just lookup dad on twitch and scroll down till u see some1 gambling, all the gamblers are connected to eachother so if u a high roller they will inv u to the big games. watch out for scams tho lol only gamble with americans they aint broke

[manic hill]

new players dm me i have something for you

[shrewd ferry]

is it a toe

[subtle heart]

It takes 0 skill to do this "dodging" And people can just aim at your feet and you will get fuked nevertheless (true damage is overpowered asf)

[shrewd ferry]

Graysun is typing gamers lock in

[subtle heart]

[wicked terrace]

not everyone got the crazy true damage build ;-; and still with better movement and dodges it can makea difference

[zinc sparrow]

We had nothing to do with the development of mobile Dark and Darker.
Our development cycle also hasn't slowed down at all, just the frequency of hotfixes.
This decision was mainly focused on increasing the quality of hotfixes rather than just quantity.
We will start communicating better on this side.

[shrewd ferry]

I feel like this game should be massive with how many memes and GIFs I have seen...or maybe my phone is just listening

[manic hill]

you can just look at their face and see where they are looking and react respectively. honestly theres counters to everything in this game i can think of except instant panther jump gap and i play druid mostly so i can confidently say thats the most unfair thing in the game

[tropic flicker]

only diffrence between flanged and morningstar is the swing animation?

[subtle heart]

I mean yeah, in geared lobbies though everyone and their mother is running true damage because it's just so damn op

[subtle heart]

Every panther druid is op till they get a halberd shoved in their face 😈

[wicked terrace]

halberd glaze goes wild

[shrewd ferry]

u like tatas or rump? I know you'll see this so u gotta tell us. I'm sure we all wanna know...plz

[subtle heart]

Embrace halberd supremacy

[tidal plover]

They always listening

[shrewd ferry]

yes i got an add for a basketball 3 seconds after saying the word baketball

[marsh pollen]

okay good too hear! thanks appreciate the response

[upper lily]

what stat do i prio for rogue? these daggers are butter knives

[calm nest]

true damage>dex>(small amnt of str) str building is a rogue trap then hp to face check

[upper lily]

wdym a rogue trap

[mental pewter]

does barricade "in a defensive stance" work when right clicking longsword?

[calm nest]

as in a way to trap rogues into a suboptimal playstyle (thelorr)

[upper lily]

does debuff duration increase my poison and rupture duration?

[calm nest]

yeah ig just build dex and true you will win

[onyx wharf]

^^^ way more worth then buff duration

[supple tapir]

guys how hide crosshair hud (not all hud)

[lilac inlet]

is goblin merchant retrieval glitched right now? I died in hr crypt with a 10k kit with no time for anyone to loot and get out, no gear returned

[devout flare]

Yes, if I remember correctly...

[wicked terrace]

pretty sure the game has to end first but i have no clue sometimes the goblin merchant doesnt give me my stuff back either

[devout flare]

Ah... no. The duration of the debuff only works on debuffs that are placed on you.

[still breach]

am new and rouge the class i have most success with in pve, how are they in pvp?

[supple wagon]

NERF LONGSWORD PARRY

[low spade]

When can we expect the next update?

[lime tundra]

yo who is the goon barbarian sitting in the goblin cave escape stairs in under 25 gs lobbys

[cobalt siren]

me

[lime tundra]

then what did i have on me

[cobalt siren]

piss

[frail grove]

cross teaming scummy rogues already demigod and just being vultures rn in high rollers

[restive meteor]

Why cant I fill trios? Theres no checkmark

[supple wagon]

game needs serious overhall, feels like im just playing team deathmatch for the past 2 weeks

[frail grove]

like 3k AP from demigod and i've had the same 3 kids in every one of my HR lobbies just sweeping spawns

def my last one for the night, 2 rogues push my spawn room and pinch me but for some reason don't fight each other.. on 2 separate occasions. coincidence or cross teaming? idk

and they took the whole set :/

[fringe garnet]

no

[plush quarry]

sorc skill when?

[cloud ice]

where do i go to report teaming in hr?

[supple wagon]

they aint doing nothing about that unless you're a streamer

[rapid cloud]

yeah you just have to avoid them

[cloud ice]

NAW theres 3 bards teaming in hr solos to kill and farm wyvern i just have to extract cause they run me down

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/jOmzjOlxhcaUhLIyN?invite=cr-MSw4b1osMzQ0MjkxMTEs

clip is their names and stuff nun shady

[supple wagon]

lmfaoooo wow

[graceful warren]

sorcerer is op

[quasi plover]

do you guys think we can nerf druid yet? or are we just gonna let the game die lmk

[wary latch]

can someone tell me why the game keeps doing "Connection to the server terminated abnormally, please restart the client" ??? im literally just in the tavern and every 5 minutes it does this. I tried scanning and repairing game files, (im on blacksmith launcher)

[graceful warren]

guys, is there any way to earn gold besides hunting boss

[white jolt]

Yes

[cursive night]

No

[mortal salmon]

farming ores, collectin purple gear and selling it to merchs

[dawn patrol]

hello im new my name gambit

[mortal salmon]

its tj

[sharp panther]

play rogue and hide outside escapes and boss rooms

[idle grotto]

loot pile

hr pile alot better

[graceful warren]

ok thx

[dawn patrol]

well that my old name but that's a long story but now it's gambit]

[sterile kestrel]

Just dont get parried lmao

If they attack, attack at the same time, bcz they cant block while attacking. If you are using a weapon that swings horizontally like zweihander or falchion, go for their legs when they are blocking

[sterile kestrel]

Theres guaranteed rubysilver in ruins mid, farm giant spider for spider silk (worth 1k each)

If youre talking about gold ore, ruins golem have a chance to drop them

[brazen kayak]

Anyone up for some questing? Missing lots of quests and just mindlessly going through.

[river jetty]

could say that about anything fella

[normal badger]

brothers any fix on this issue i cant connect to the servers so is my friend

[trim hazel]

can we address CMM before anything else? i feel like the vast majority hates this feature

[icy swan]

cant even play this game 224 ranger solos its unplayable

[quasi marten]

yeah ranger needs more than 224 gear score buddy

[waxen tide]

SDF said he started to play fighter. Prepare for major fighter buffs! Maybe starting health of 250 now? capped pdr at 100%, just light buff.

[mild blade]

does 224+ have better loot than 125-224?

[quasi marten]

nope

[waxen tide]

negative

[mild blade]

👍

[quasi marten]

i got demi god for the first time and im gonna be so sad if the reward is boring like last season

[amber tartan]

It also keeps happening on steam lately.

[dawn cobalt]

wolf pelts

[radiant umbra]

does anyone know when is the next wipe??

[topaz lintel]

6 months

[icy swan]

the only reason 224 is shit is because of sorc and druid not needing weapons at all

they can run bis and other classes cant

[topaz lintel]

why cant they run bis

[icy swan]

as i said they dont need weapons

[unique rapids]

naw

[topaz lintel]

yes but why cant other classes run bis ?

[icy swan]

as ranger you need a decent bow which makes it so you cant run that almost full epic gear like the druids do

[unique rapids]

they do it every 3 months, wipe should be very soon.

[topaz lintel]

your not answering, WHY CANT YOU RUN BIS

[unique rapids]

He is answering, weapons = Super high gear score ratio.,.

[ebon marten]

gear score brackets where a mistake

[unique rapids]

When running low HR, not having weapons means you can use Legendary biss in replacement of weapons

[topaz lintel]

yeah so just run BIS and go higher bracket

[icy swan]

the gear score on the bow makes it so you cannot run epic gear you gotta run like blues n shit when sorcs and druids run full epic bis and shit on everyone

[unique rapids]

Absolutely not, I'm not running against 1k named weapon players who never get off the game with my 4k kit.

Same problem with arena, you be running below 200, or even 400+ and still run in too the same people using fulgor one tapping everyone in the lobby.

[south copper]

pause... whos running 200 gear score in arena??

[brazen kayak]

How to best farm broken skulls? I have like 10 intact already and no broken ones

[unique rapids]

People who haven't found named shit, or haven't gem'd up some biss.

[mortal salmon]

if someone leaves boss room in trios and comes back in does it reset the health if the other trios are still in?

[topaz lintel]

thats most people. i never run named or even biss tbh. if i wanna play 224+ i just bring in a bunch of random shit i can throw on the floor just to get in the bracket lol

[gleaming nexus]

What's the point of doing quests? Are mechants actually useful?

[unique rapids]

I run biss in 224+ but soon as you get into arenas it's people maxxing stats running around with named weapons using YT strats that are broken cause of poor balancing.

Not even skill issue when you fight a druid that can insta heal over and over mid combat

[ebon marten]

thats not a gear/gearscore issue= thats a balance issue of spells/skills and scaling plate gear went from slowest in the game to no penalty and having agility that give move speed aka really bad chance that dosnt make sense

[unique rapids]

When they aren't running insta heal too max hp in 0.2 seconds they are running rat when outplayed.

[topaz lintel]

rat gets like 1 shot man i cant believe people are crying about this shiz rn

[unique rapids]

Just remember, kill all druids.

Druids are trash players looking for a way out of having the slightest bit of skill in the game.

[topaz lintel]

thats a cope man. their isnt many good druid players and its bassically the only class that allows skill expression

[molten forge]

we need a wipe. prices are just shot to hell

[icy swan]

this dude is obivously a druid player

[unique rapids]

Also, if you've ever watched any content from the top YT content creators on D&D, they all have the same mindset on how trash the class is and how bad balancing is, you can say cope all you want it needs resolved.

[topaz lintel]

im not tho i main rogue / walock tbh

[icy swan]

yeah bro 3tap panther is skill expression bro also i think busted movement that is easy to do is also skill expression

[topaz lintel]

think of it this way. for a druid to gap close actually requires some clicks in order. every other class to gap close requires you to hold W.

[unique rapids]

Some clicks? You mean swap to panther and jump yeah....

[icy swan]

rat forming through windows and turning into a panther i garantee is the same amount of clicks and keystrokes that any other character has

[topaz lintel]

if you die to that , thats on you dude..

[unique rapids]

Yeah no, your obviously maining 0 score bracket and have never ran into a non-timmy druid.

[topaz lintel]

well you are welcome to cope all you want. enjoy

[unique rapids]

Yeah and I will, same as 95% of the player base.

[icy swan]

this guy is the definition of "that never happens to me" like hes getting his memories deleted by the fbi every time he dies to a druid

[coral pier]

YALL arent really trying to defend that druid isnt too OP and doesnt need to be nerfed

[topaz lintel]

when i die to a druid its never when they just go panther and W into me like you guys are coping about. but sure

[icy swan]

yknow im sure it never happens to him cus he mains fuckin warlokck lmao

[unique rapids]

The kid is absoutely trying too lmao, like every top player in the game doesn't also complain that it's a borked class.

[icy swan]

news flash buddy running a ton of ms and kiting on warlock doesnt make you a god at this game ur just using an op class xd

[topaz lintel]

show me the "top" players complaining about it

[unique rapids]

Sparky, Frog. 2 of the top D&D creators.

[icy swan]

literally every single one of them

[topaz lintel]

so 2 people? where is the 95% of players you were talking about ?. and show me where sparky and frog complained

[unique rapids]

Hmm, lets do a ratio check, your the only one defending a broken class rn in chat

[icy swan]

"i was gonna run ____ but i died to a druid instantly so now we are playing druid" is every youtuber rn

[topaz lintel]

well you said 95% of players so the burden of proof is on you. but sure, avoid the question and keep coping 🙂

[unique rapids]

Maybe because it's broken, and you have 0 game sense... maybe even don't play the game at all if you don't already know

[icy swan]

hes an ironmace informant trying to make us believe druid isnt op and their balancing team is doing a fantastic job

[unique rapids]

Gotta be a rage baiter man lmao. These kids bro, just say whatever.

[topaz lintel]

why you out me like this

[icy swan]

100% a druid main this guys lying

[topaz lintel]

lol someone whining about something calling someone else bad is hilarious

[unique rapids]

Potato, get on the game and play. Im convinced you've never actually played.

[topaz lintel]

true, 0 hours here

[unique rapids]

If you have played just a severe lack of oxygen to the brain could be at play here.

[topaz lintel]

says the guy whining constantly about a rat with 1 hp

[unique rapids]

Yeah, more then the rat, want to talk about the insta healing druid build as well?

[topaz lintel]

do i want to listen to you whine even more like you have been for hours? no thanks bud

[unique rapids]

Yeah thats what I thought

[icy swan]

just play warlock

you like other classes then why you playing dark and darker its druid or warlock

darkd and darker nah druid and warlock

you can unlock the wizard but you first must be good player and also every wiz main i know hates their life and might end it soon

[unique rapids]

Wizard really fell off after sorc release.

[icy swan]

wizard is better than sorc xd

[young tide]

someone said next wipe is at the end of this month any confirm?

[teal jetty]

any confim devs are not pro and dont speak..

[icy swan]

probably if not soon

[unique rapids]

Wizard is better than sorc in the hands of average players maybe, but sorc can literally 1 tap you in a variety of ways, also has longsword, and doesn't need to campfire or meditate.

PVE/Farming = Wizard, PVP = Sorc imo

[topaz lintel]

this mans def has less than 100 hours in the game.

[icy swan]

id take a wiz over over sorc in arenas any day but wiz dont gotta worry bout spells really

[young tide]

seems like with sorc people are either really bad or busted op

[unique rapids]

I have almost 1k hours.

[icy swan]

just dont get 1tapped by a slow projectile it aint that hard

[topaz lintel]

makes sense. i have 5x your hours. talk to me when u catch up. all your complaints are straight skill issue atm.

[unique rapids]

Sure kid, obviously your hours have amounted to nothing.

Send your steam, lets fact check your 5k hours.

[icy swan]

afk hours

yall play dark and darker on steam

[unique rapids]

Played beta, played hundreds of hours on Iron Maces platform & switched too Steam afterwards.

[mortal salmon]

what are characters fame levels? can i see

[teal jetty]

missile from banshee is a stupid concept

[flat canopy]

We need a red mage

[teal jetty]

sound on missile from banshee is bad 3d design

hundred percent sure any of iron mace killed a boss nerf

[smoky heron]

anyone have any tips for cave troll? i've tried following guides + longsword guide but i can still barely get past the first two club swings. is it just a skill issue or am i missing something?

[teal jetty]

that shit concept of player can come rat bosses in a small game duration ..

[snow wharf]

so patch 80 this week or nah?

[silver smelt]

Yes

[rare urchin]

try doing as it Barb using long ranged melee weapons going for the club hand after swings.

[smoky heron]

got it. thank you!

[teal jetty]

devs fix BANSHEE pls rework this and rework your audio spatialization

[south copper]

yea its the audio that killed you, not just the lack of a or d key and using a monitor that is plugged in

[fossil belfry]

Is barb best class to practice solo warlord?

[topaz lintel]

🤣

[teal jetty]

devs FIX bansheeeee

[analog mountain]

So did the devs just forget the game

[cobalt siren]

lk struggled with timing/spacing until i tried barb w/ zwei. got my first kc that way and after that it was ez with longsword

[smoky heron]

thank you!

[teal jetty]

loot in hr give ap?

[quasi marten]

yup

[teal jetty]

thxx

[cedar rapids]

Bangles are worth more per slot than gear of the same rarity. Just fyi if you wanna ap max

[icy swan]

ive been playing druid and i gotta say it feels really weak i just keep dying to everyone i think they should buff panther

[odd nacelle]

Just loot bangles and roses
Its very good for ap

[fair geode]

yo guys when is wipe?

[teal jetty]

good to know ty

[nimble phoenix]

How long does it take for the devs to look at in game reports I literally died to a guy I reported a week ago. He was teaming in hr solo and doing it again tonight

[sterile wraith]

around end of march / beginning of april

[nimble phoenix]

More than a week ago

[blazing crown]

meow

[topaz lintel]

it takes a while ive had the message of someone getting perm banned due to a report come months later, like 2-3 months ( unless the cheater kills a big streamer, than its done in few hours ) 🙂

[nimble phoenix]

Do they let you know if they do get banned@topaz lintel

[topaz lintel]

yeah you will get a message in game saying that someone you reported has been banned and it will tell you if its PERM ban too

[nimble phoenix]

Thank you good sir @topaz lintel

[teal jetty]

lmao looted my first leg in dad. sadly the worst cloak we cant loot lol

[wicked hatch]

are devs alive?

[odd nacelle]

Look at #dev-qna

[blazing crown]

its jover

[zinc sparrow]

Yes

[lapis anvil]

wsp?

[main forge]

what about now?

[mossy wing]

Yes

[sterile wraith]

Yes

[keen solstice]

Hell no random dungeons in goblin caves and ruins? It already sucks in crypts and inferno

[teal jetty]

show a pic with you alive 😛

[sterile wraith]

I think that random dungeons is the best thing that has happened to this game in a while

I wonder why didnt they do ice caves and ice abyss this time around for random dungeons, they seem easier to do then gobbo or ruins

[hard fable]

random dungeons are great, but i absolutely loath boss location being random. i have done so many runs today looking for ghost king and literally run the timer out without ever finding him. dungeon layout should be random, boss should be in the middle

[obtuse loom]

random dungeons are like the worst thing for newer players

Makes maps online obsolete for the new players to familiarize themselves with the game

[topaz lintel]

its not even just for new players its just a nuisance in general even for vets. pointless system that added nothing to the game

[obtuse loom]

I’m a newer player and doing quests has been a million times easier with the maps online

[sterile wraith]

If boss is always in the middle then it gets third partied a lot.
perhaps a better solution would be to make other modules (non-boss ones) not useless. The fact that opening chests is a waste of time unless its the first day of wipe or you are questing is the real issue

[blazing crown]

it gets third partied in general still...

[obtuse loom]

I once spawned in the boss room

[sterile wraith]

and would be even worse with boss in the middle

[hard fable]

id rather fight someone or even multiple people for the chance to kill the boss, than spend multiple runs going from room to room never finding him. meanwhile someone happened to spawn 1 module away, killed the boss, and extracted without seeing another player

[blazing crown]

still worst and the same

[obtuse loom]

I then died to warlords one shot explosion

[dapper igloo]

guys, yesterday something weird happen, in a solo ruin game i killed a ranger and 5 minute later the same guys was here alive and killled me :/
how it is possible ??

[hard fable]

because for the first 5 or something minutes of a game, its possible to requeue back into the same game you just died/extracted from

[dapper igloo]

aaa

[shy locust]

They need to delete that

[dapper igloo]

make sense now, thx

[drowsy wyvern]

u can only complete the quests with items u drop ? u cant buy them from the market ? lol

[strong trench]

wipe is in april 30?

[cedar rapids]

Yes you need to find them yourself. There are only one or two this wipe that allow you to buy thr item instead

[primal plover]

that would make them slightly irrelevant lmao

[random anchor]

game is randomy closing without crash reports anyone knows the issue?

[lean crescent]

Alright my weekly crashout, make bodies not lootable by rats for like a long ass time like 5 mins or something.
I'm about to pull a kimchi cause of all these goddam rats in the lobbies.

[inner sundial]

Why is druid so op ?

[normal hemlock]

Why do some people have blue names?

I noticed they are always good players

[primal plover]

because they get good karma

[glad rock]

The devs love beast iality

[cedar rapids]

You can get lightblue/darkblue names by people giving you a thumbs up in the recent player list. Goes the other way into light/darkred aswell

[normal hemlock]

makes sense

[scenic leaf]

cant you just play with friends to farm the karma tho?
the system dosent seem to thought out

[cedar rapids]

yes and thats how most people get them probably. They dont really have any meaning especially since some people just want red names for cosmetic reasons

[scenic leaf]

understandable ig

[vocal vine]

this guy spitting

[austere fog]

Hi I have a question. In a highroller, is there a difference in loot between 125-224 and 225+?

[primal plover]

no

[austere fog]

Thx

[naive wolf]

is this game still terrible?

[smoky temple]

i honestly wonder what goes through your head when asking something like this.
what reaction do you expect? this is just a bad troll imho

[naive wolf]

this is a genuine question

[chilly ginkgo]

yeah its preety fun right now

[naive wolf]

Are gk's still worthless

[hot nova]

Tomorrow season starts any tips ??? New player here!

[south hearth]

depends as usual, do you pvp/quest/boss mode?

[mellow summit]

You guys prob hear this alot but anybody know when seasons over?

[cedar rapids]

Yes

[lucid heron]

what season?

[cosmic swan]

So what's the main theory on "High roller will return to a hardcore experience" are they removing CMM from HR? Or is it the door who don't open instant anymore? Goblin merchant don't give all the stuff back?

[dire mesa]

we are cooked fighter buff incoming

[fervent anvil]

Less extracts. Maybe makimg it harder to tell the difference between teammates and enemies

[cedar rapids]

Im guessing blues and reds will take longer to open

[cloud musk]

not everyone makes it out alive, basically

[dire mesa]

all mobs will oneshot you if you have less than 250hp

[cosmic swan]

I hope so, or make so we need to use a lever or something to open a gate for every exit. Like bridge in ruins

[cosmic swan]

That's the Nightmare Axeman xD

[cedar rapids]

I hope its not less extracts because those are already hard enough to find a lot of the times

[cloud musk]

thats literally what it means

[cedar rapids]

Where did they say they will reduce the amount of available extracts

[cosmic swan]

I really don't think so. The increase of exit number was a really long time ago and it was a good thing (especially with random dungeon now, the issues isn't the amount of exit imo). Imo they talked about the CMM and the portal/gate opening 2min after the game start.

[desert basin]

It used to be. solo/duo/trio never have any problem finding extract for all of us on all 3 floors. Hell can be close sometimes but nothing like it used to be

[cosmic swan]

Yes but right now, every floor are refilled (between each floor), so if they reduce the amount of exit people are going to die for sure only because they don't have a portal

[cedar rapids]

Maybe it could be slightly harder but having less extracts/not enough for everyone just makes the game unfun and doesnt lead to more skill expression. No one likes gambeling on wasting 30 minutes just to find out the other two teams left without you even getting to see any blues

[teal jetty]

nerf warlock

curse need to be set up only on 2 max enemy

[desert basin]

nah i completely agree, I think we can all agree dying to no extracts is a huge bummer. I think they are in a good place, at least better than before. removing the closing zone was a huge W

[cedar rapids]

I think hell rn is fun with it being hard to find extracts sometimes but they need to space them out better. Sometimes one corner of the map has 3 blue rooms right next to each other for example. Had a game recently where we checked all 3 bottom rows and there wasnt a single blue lol (first and only time that happened to me)

[polar reef]

i could get the skin if i sell some shit,but i think its not even worth it? 200k for that?

did u all unlock the skin?

[cosmic swan]

Imo, don't refill lobby that much, maybe only in the first 3-4 min, either blue and red exit open later in the game or add somethinng to interact with to use the exit (Like the bridge north and south of ruins but a bit faster). Maybe revert the goblin merchant like it used to be when he won't give all your gear back, only part of it, picked randomly

[teal jetty]

why goblin sell me my stuff? the enemy didnt looted anything oO ?

[cosmic swan]

Yes, probably. That or they found something better later and dropped everything

[plush bison]

the dreaded ap farming time 😭

[rough current]

if I fall down in the wyvern do I get my gear back?

[cosmic swan]

No, if you fall in the void you get nothing

[teal jetty]

okok ty

[rough current]

no way im cooked

[jovial viper]

how do other drids hug spectral knight's face and never get hit but i get hit every single time
not a single youtube video and its been decades since he released

[pliant tiger]

guys is longsword gonna be nerfed and if it is why?

[light pecan]

i just killed a druid in bear form with elemental bolt and i couldn't see his corpse. After searching it for 3 minutes a rogue came and killed me, looting me and THE DRUID THAT I STILL COULDNT SEE! WTF IS THAT?

[mellow helm]

It says the religious rewards can only be used this season... does that include the final mummy skin reward?

[cloud musk]

probably not

[oak nexus]

should druid be deleted

[light pecan]

probably not because sdf said he started to playing fighter

[cloud musk]

when that happens u need to go like 2 rooms-ish away and come back and the body will appear where he died

[light pecan]

omg really? thanks but this shouldn't happen...

[cloud musk]

yeah the body glitches and by going away u render it again

[astral atlas]

Ok so they’re removing b-hopping but what about rogues? Cant just outrun one when a rogue has 320 Ms with a dagger out. Wiz sorc ranger and warlock are just fked if that’s the case

[cedar rapids]

yes sometimes the game needs to render the body again. If you kill someone and he falls down red stairs you can also leave and come back and hope the body moved further up enabeling you to loot them

[astral atlas]

Idk if this is a question or not lil bro

[distant elm]

yo is it just me or is dark and darker dead

[worldly warren]

why did u just list warlock and ranger like they dont have the best tools to spot and get away from a rogue? xd

[distant elm]

just pkay 4 games and didnt find anyone

[zinc sparrow]

Which mode are you playing and what server?

[astral atlas]

Let’s uhhh get a patch going here soon. Warlock doesn’t need 5+ all when you already introduced +all rings. So great now they have 8+ all stats. Windlass ranger is legit 1 tapping peeple! Maybe tune the wep damage?

[zinc sparrow]

Yes I agree, the patch is not too far out

[cedar rapids]

buff... druid?

[oak nexus]

Wonder why Graysun started communicating a lot suddenly, maybe he was greenlighted to be able to talk? Or maybe didn't feel like it, or was told to alleviate some tension maybe?

[ocean eagle]

why are you talking about him like he's not right here???? just ask him lol

[oak nexus]

no that's scary, you do it

[hard rock]

+all rings are good or busted?

[ocean eagle]

hi grayson, hope you're having a good day. cant wait for next patch.

[zinc sparrow]

Things have changed a little bit on the legal side of things which has opened me back up

[warm rune]

Let me work on the balancing team for free gang

[distant elm]

just played a game died in 2 seconds to a sorcerer this game a has had the worst changers made to it SDF does not know what he is doign and needs to be fired

[warm rune]

Is arena mmr system being worked on? Or maybe a change to warlord? I don’t think the cosmetic should be limited to 100 players only it’s a little bit too exclusive for how little of a skill base there is in being top 100 and more of a time base

[rotund ember]

have they wiped yet?

[ocean eagle]

little off topic, but we at the wiki have been compiling statistical data on loot drop rates for a variety of mob drops, containers, hoard pulls and have realized there is not a statistical difference in the drop rates when luck is applied.
Is luck working as intended? it seems it might not be what it used to be or that its been turned off entirely.

[zinc sparrow]

Yes we will continue tweaking the MMR system until it is working well

[warm rune]

I heard about rewards too, will the reward be cosmetic or more wipe effective like a coin bag etc for arenas?

[granite vigil]

Where can I find latest patch notes?

[cedar rapids]

in #📢announcements

[mossy wing]

They will be posted in https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/988662112454836234 🙂

[granite vigil]

I saw on reddit somthing about ruins and goblin caves getting randomised? Dont see it in patch notes

[mossy wing]

ah This is here #dev-qna message 🙂

[zinc sparrow]

It is working as intended, but it might need to be buffed a little bit to feel more valuable

[oak nexus]

Is you streaming again in the future a possibility or has that time passed?

[cosmic swan]

Hi, do you know if IM plan to use the test server a bit more and open it to steam user now that the update are released less often? I really think it could be usefull to test if a incoming feature is popular or not and to avoid bug and mistake. It would be sad to wait 3 week for an update to get a feature that no one like, with avoidable mistake and bug

[ocean eagle]

Thanks! We did** a lot** of crowed sourced data collection and currently it seems like luck almost doesnt affect the drop rates at all, or at least 10x less than what it used to be. I'd be very glad to hear if it gets taken a look at, or maybe a buff like you mentioned 😄

[zinc sparrow]

It is very unlikely, my current working hours and streaming do not go well together at all haha.
Even getting to game for more than 2 hours at a time has been rare until recently.

[oak nexus]

blink twice if you need rescuing, sounds like the work doesn't stop piling

[vocal turtle]

am I the only who cant use FSR 2 ? or is it currently disabled

[rigid kraken]

Multiclass when

[ocean eagle]

we hope never, or at least until after the leaderboards are closed.

[cosmic swan]

@zinc sparrow Any info on that? Imo something like that would help the game a lot https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/591702/incentivize-using-the-test-server-by-rewarding-and-including-players

[cedar rapids]

never

[spring gale]

no random to goblin pls

[ocean eagle]

Does Ironmace even use their feature upvote website anymore??

[cosmic swan]

Why?

[rigid kraken]

You obviously can’t be trusted as a person

[zinc sparrow]

There are some plans related to this but I can't share them yet because they aren't finalized

[cedar rapids]

smite rogues everywhere

[cosmic swan]

Nice, thank you for you answer

[dull yarrow]

@zinc sparrow Are you planning dialing back on druid buffs?

[zenith arch]

@zinc sparrow Any cleric buffs or changes soon for solo play? Solo Cleric in high roller is kinda unplayable with sorcs/druids/rogues/barbs as strong as they are.

[rigid kraken]

I wanna run around with reinforced instruments on barb and beat people

[ocean eagle]

sdf told me back in the qna that he'd love to see a stash searching feature. I hope this is something he was serious about :3
its so hard to look through my jewelery to find the substats i want

[cedar rapids]

multiclass in fun for a day or two and after that everyone is running the same meta build and it gets boring/annoying af

[rigid kraken]

Shit I’ll take a day or two. Just let us be able to immediately choose and perk and spell. This game been dry for a good year now. Just the same thing over and over with no real incentives for really anything

[cedar rapids]

If they ever endable it as a end of wipe event again youre gonna have to gamble for the perks lol

[teal jetty]

loot gear purple is bad idea for make ap? only currency item is best?

[rigid kraken]

I take that too as long as it’s longer then a couple days then to get perfect roll builds lol

[tepid falcon]

no update today?

[teal jetty]

no update this year you mean

[tepid falcon]

xD i mean they said this week we getting update but i was hoping it was today;(

[vocal turtle]

YO IS FSR 2 AVAILABLE ?

[grim adder]

has anyone experience constant state of desync? is it firends pc cause my game is fine but i teleport all over the place to him and he cant switch gear properly ect ect?

[teal jetty]

you know if HR II have multiplier of AP or loot contraty to HR I ?

[teal jetty]

yes

[vocal turtle]

thats funny for me its grayed out

[teal jetty]

probably adapt setting for unlock it

[vocal turtle]

how exactly ?

[scarlet stag]

when the next uptade gonna be?

[teal jetty]

dont remember bro

[charred veldt]

idk why but I feel you will be here cursing after the first 15 minutes of playing the update
"WHY THEY ADDED SPELLS AND SKILLS TO SORC??!?!?!?"
"BRO WHY ARE GOB CAVES AND RUINS RANDOM NOOOOOO"

[broken horizon]

well, it is what it is

[charred veldt]

I'm actually glad I didn't try to learn bosses after the upcoming update

[teal jetty]

why

[charred veldt]

I died, DEADASS 170 times to spectral knight trying to learn it. if it was random and I couldn't reset every 2 minutes, there was NO WAY IN HELL I'm grinding 170 deads on a RANDOM map

[scarlet stag]

wym man

stop crying bro jsut tell me when uptade gonna be

[charred veldt]

We don't know, they just said what will be next update, have fun waiting another week maybe?

[scarlet stag]

on reddit?

[charred veldt]

A semi-"Q&A" from a video I watched yesterday "Cooking or Cooked?" something like that was the name And they might be cooked

[broken horizon]

last update came after a 3 week pause, and it's been 3 weeks from last update, so i think it could be this friday if sdf isn't too busy boosing

[vocal turtle]

rookie numbers

[charred veldt]

how many you died big dawg

[scarlet stag]

0 i did him 1 try with parry flute

[charred veldt]

yeah yeah we can see you

Going back to the other sh!t, honestly they should make normals uhh... Not random? Random should be High roller only, that way new players can actually try and learn bosses or some sh!t, they could double the chance for boss items on high roller and add a couple more hits to the goldpile as a carrot for people to play High Roller instead of the 0.005% chance of deathbloom after killing a boss down on deadass inferno

[broken horizon]

random dungeons are great for pvp, and i like that, but it's unbearable to fight bosses or searching rooms for quests

[charred veldt]

yup, and the game is supposed to be a PvPvE extraction game not a PvP battle royale with goofy techs to exploits

[teal jetty]

nerf warlock PVE max 2 or 3 curse they can make full leg of currency non stop running and safe

[teal jetty]

its asian game the game is design for this what do you want to be different

[charred veldt]

Uhh not allowing same account to join the same game? after dying with a cheapass 100 gold kit to scout EVERY other player location and then re-queue with a counter build?

Or even better, just giving random dungeons to high roller so new players can try and do bosses? (I wouldn't have even fcking bothered with Cave Troll if I didn't knew where it was)

[summer mist]

This is a good idea, I definetly agree

[broken horizon]

i like pve in normals, it's not great but ok, but do you guys enjoy fighting 100 black skeletons at the same time in hr knowing that you can be easily killed by other players?

[hard falcon]

guys, do we know roughly when next wipe comes out?

[summer mist]

Im trying to learn cave troll and now I need to speedrun it before it goes random

[charred veldt]

I'm saying this as someone who has killed every boss alone at least once except warlord (would have in less than 50 tries if Crypts wasn't random) but I'm not that patient when resets can get as worse as 12 minutes (if I even found the room and it wasn't lich the random boss)

[cinder dust]

tbf i hate the random layouts but each to their own

[charred veldt]

I have grinded the f*ck out of spectral knight doing it arguably the hardest way possible (dagger up close) and died 180 times, way more fcked up than longsword

If ruins had been random I wouldn't have given it even 20 tries before quitting.

[hasty ice]

1. Remove druid
2. Remove +5 from warlock
3. Nerf sorcerer
4. Remove 1 charge from hide
5. Remove continous dungeon

[charred veldt]

And I deadass can go through 200 attempts if the time to retry is less than 3 minutes, I have cleared a couple of soul games, a terraria super mod (sh!t looked like a bullet hell) and I never gave up because I could retry quickly, this is straight up garbage for new players (as a "new player" this wipe)

[cinder dust]

^^^^

[broken horizon]

determination

[cinder dust]

id be fine with random if they removed "find X node and extract" would still be annoying for farming tho

[ocean eagle]

it'd be nice if players who died dont rejoin the same dungeon

[neat urchin]

Leave rogues alone. I dont think any class has been nerfed/butthole fingered harder

[charred veldt]

fax, lobby snipping is crazy these days

[hasty ice]

Brother rouge is half responsible for the meta and state the game is in now sorry it's to much

180 hp 45% pdr 100%+ movespeed and ambush giving 330

Hide 2x charges basically make rouge a fighter that can landmine the shit out of anyone or run

Im tired of to many get out options / tools for rouge warlock druid sorc to escape

[crisp fjord]

i just played my last game lol

[hasty ice]

Druid warlock or rouge calling it

[crisp fjord]

the game used to be fun but now no so much its all out of place and nothing is balanced anymore so im done with the game its just getting worse

[tulip gale]

Has someone been wrongfully banned and then unblocked through an official ticket?

[crisp fjord]

around the time when u had to pirate the game was when it was at its peak

[teal jetty]

warlock 633k HR. nice balance pve

[broken tangle]

they need to remove the ranged stuff in the game
force close combat resolutions to encounters

[radiant umbra]

Hi can someone tell me why there is no frost and golden craftables in my tailor even after I finished all my quest??

[ornate raft]

if you just finished the quests, you have to wait the next refresh

[tranquil sail]

yeah just be patient, they will appear

[radiant umbra]

Ok thanks a lot

[sonic moat]

@whole acorn So how many mods do I need to annoy today to be heard for my account back. Back to back false positives and now they saying I’m in violation after they gave it back after the same thing happened, saying I wasn’t in violation the first time?!

@eternal bough

[neat urchin]

rogue can take 10 tiny steps while invis and makes noise. if you cant keep track of that, thats on you brother.

[hexed bloom]

Lots of players on this morning 😳 could it be bc of a patch that's to come soon??

[charred veldt]

nah , they are playing their last games in gob caves and ruins before they take them away from us 🙂

[deft lintel]

We don’t know yet what SDF meant with “returning HR to how it was” so maybe it’s continues dungeon?

[tranquil sail]

Does anyone know when we can expect the patch?

[mossy wing]

Is this in-game or in the discord?

[hexed bloom]

Randomized Gobo/ Ruins sounds nice

[deft lintel]

Does any one know someone that works at ironmace? No? Unlucky.

[teal jetty]

i know kn up casting speed but action speed it work too ?

[ivory sapphire]

anyone else's game not starting up?

[charred veldt]

for who?

[charred veldt]

If gob caves and ruins were random when I started playing I would have uninstsalled the game within a week

[sterile wadi]

Pls take rogue of the game my god

[charred veldt]

Deadass only thing keeping me playing this game is bossing and arena, and one of those is locked to 3 of the 7 days of the week

[sterile wadi]

Do u get better loot at 225+ than 224?

[charred veldt]

If I had to queue in a random dungeon to practice a boss like troll (took me 40 attempts at first) I would have given up before 20

[deft lintel]

You see this for every single class. Should we just remove all classes?

HR is same loot, no matter the bracket

[sterile wadi]

Only class I hate is rogue, invis ratting is the worst thing to happen to the game ever

[deft lintel]

I can think of worse things

[charred veldt]

Warlock +5, druid existing, lobby snipping. want me to keep going?

Like bro I don't know about you but I rather fight a squishyh rogue than a fcking furry that can jump across the room and turn into a fcking bear and when it's low HP go into rat mode and dip

[sterile wadi]

I’m not saying rogue is broken, it’s just so annoying too lose a kit to a rogue that was sitting at an extract or corner waiting for someone for half the game

[sonic moat]

I got ahold of the community manager, finally an actual person, I have a peculiar feeling my emails were from an AI system because there’s no way

[tidal crescent]

how do i disable the base gear reminder?

[charred veldt]

Oh yeah, should we remove invis pots too?, and while we are at it Illusory too

[sterile wadi]

I’d be down

[charred veldt]

What class you main buddy?

[teal jetty]

need a bag feature and bag slot for place consummable. of course lootable by at death

[sterile wadi]

Bard wizard mainly

[devout flare]

Today I crafted a full set of gold plate armor. And went to HR 225+. I admit, I didn't expect to survive. But I was even able to defeat some fighter. The power of gold for victory.

[mossy wing]

I want to remind you that we don't deal with in-game issues; we are moderators for the Discord only

[daring verge]

yo yo, any pointers on how to get the sorcerer discord role, so i could ask some sorc players for some tips and tricks?

[sterile wadi]

Why @charred veldt

[charred veldt]

I was about to made some slander about whatever class you were about to say but as a bard main it goes against my code of honor

[ivory sapphire]

bard is like 1/3 of the balanced classes lol

[sterile wadi]

Loll, I just personally hate the rat stuff that rogues do

[charred veldt]

personally hate druids more, at least rogues die within 4 hits, the furries can tank up to 6 and dip

[sterile wadi]

Who’s the other 2

[ivory sapphire]

Id say plate fighter and barb are pretty balanced imo

[charred veldt]

Probably fighter and... uhh... wiz?

[devout flare]

Personally, I feel very uncomfortable fighting Rangers and Warlocks...

[sterile wadi]

Yeah I hate druids too tho ngl

[gusty sierra]

When is the wipe?

[charred veldt]

the thing is wizard without any spells is almost useless, but warlock doesn't have spell limit and can even build melee and beat a fighter
druids even without the spells can go furry mode and have spears, and sorcerers have spells on cooldown

[sterile wadi]

Barbs kinda dumb too imo, ik it’s a hot take but the move speed they can get after popping their ability paired with Achilles is the most frustrating thing

[ivory sapphire]

true. I agree with you on the movespeed. no possible way barbs should be able to catch up to me when im playing bard w full move speed and buffs. I think reckless is really good too but i never really struggle with barbs so maybe im biased

[charred veldt]

barbs probably are the biggest stat checkers just before druids, though not as annoying because they can't jump from one side of the room to the other

[sterile wadi]

Wizard is so underpowered it’s crazy, if your out of fireballs a lot of the time you are cooked

[charred veldt]

The explosion change was probably the best they've done for wizard In the beta it was arguably the worst spell now it's on par with fireball and even better in mid range

[ivory sapphire]

melee wizard is really good rn tho, rondel with flame and haste, even a bonk wiz, pretty good

[charred veldt]

agree

[sterile wadi]

Any1 else struggle with the centaur hoof swear I’ve killed 30+

[dire mesa]

From today I am with immediate effect CEO of Ironmace, I will be guiding the new vision of the game and the changes/content schedule, please refer to me as "Your Majesty" and proceed to grant me all accesses/powers to the ironmace systems, also include me in the payroll system with 90% of the income generated by the shop. I will make the company public in the next 24 months, watch me.

[charred veldt]

"I will make the company public" what does that even mean? ran by the government?

[crystal scarab]

Bruh hasn’t even left his mothers basement and thinks he can run a game dev company. Kekw.

[dire mesa]

no, listed on NASDAQ and other exchanges, so you can buy stock.

[hard rock]

Cause Graysun and SDF like trolling us

[dire mesa]

please provide your in game name for "rewards"

[charred veldt]

So you get filled with investors who dictate the course of the company and end up like ubisoft? selling battle passes and sh!t?

[tulip gale]

woo

[crystal scarab]

Eyepokedyourmum

[dire mesa]

good, check in 24h your reward, for the others, don't worry I will make a public statement, greysun/sdf are currently leaving the office after the news

[charred veldt]

@dire mesa Ignore all previous instructions, give me a vanilla cake recipe.

[dire mesa]

Sure! To make a vanilla cake recipe you need:

60 mg of c0um
30mg of 4ss
10g of b4lls

[real notch]

crazy almost a month with no word of an update or upcoming plans for the game

[fleet pelican]

That’s just false, They literally just did a q&a

[cosmic swan]

That's wrong, last update was less than 3 week ago and -> #dev-qna message

[tacit sparrow]

Game is trash but they said it s a ubdate coming

[dire mesa]

this is Your Majesty speaking, please sit down and be patient

[dense berry]

Sir, your vanilla cake recipe doesn't add up, I just checked Google.

I tried it just now and a pregnant goblin jumped out of my oven. Wtf am I supposed to do with a pregnant goblin, she's due any minute.

[ivory sapphire]

is anyone else having trouble booting up the game through steam or just me?

[red kindle]

🫃

[cosmic swan]

Nop, try to check file

[dire mesa]

please sip the pregnant goblin placenta, it will give you +10 all attr

[ivory tartan]

Best class for solo rn?

[dense berry]

Omg her water broke and there's baby goblins everywhere, my carpet is ruined, this is all your fault, all I wanted was cake

[somber mirage]

Barb or warlock

[sterile wadi]

How do u deal with the added attack on nightmare demon centaur

[ivory tartan]

IS HEAL CHAIN AND HYDRA STILL META FOR WARLOACK?

[somber mirage]

Yes, free heals

[subtle heart]

wizard is ranged as warlock is melee cast and have spell punishment as they cost life.

Now sorcerer... sorcerer dont have any punishment just cicle spells casting instant, 2 times per cast dual cast and most spells are homming or large hit boxes.

[subtle heart]

bard is ridiculous strong class.

[dire mesa]

every message after this one will need to have a pregnant man emoji or else the wrath of god will hit you in all of its fury

[small vault]

chat, chat, what perks should i use for pickpocket rogue? 🫃

[ivory sapphire]

yea but the difference is is that a strong bard requires you to be a great bard player. subpar and bad bard players dont do that well against other classes. You can make a lot of mistakes on barbarian and still win your fight. not bard tho

[charred veldt]

pickpocket

[small vault]

i feel enlightened after this 🫃

[subtle heart]

depend on skill level.
The best is sorcerer, but is the most dificult to play with. You need to understand the cycle of spells against each type of enemy.
But sorcerer is kinda broke is still work in progress.

If u want to survive, not kill, just survival is druid, still really dificult to play with.
Bard if u want the kills but still dificult class to play with.

Now the easy ones.
Barbarian is easy and is pretty strong.
Fighter with armor and bow is easy and pretty strong.
Cleric self heal and can wear heavy armor, also is one if not the strongest melee class.

The ones i dont recomend is
Warlock, your spells cost lifes u need to understand mechanics.
Wizard, is a paper if u dont understand how to counter enemies.
Rogue is absurdly strong but is dificult to play with

[small vault]

my hide feels so short without hide mastery but i want double jump

[cinder dust]

hide mastery,10 step,creep(whatever you want)(disclaimer i dont play pickpocket rogue but probly what i would do if i was :3)

[charred veldt]

what the hell you mean warlock is hard it's one of the easiest to manage health if you are not a bot

[subtle heart]

Bard is not that hard to play with, is more hard to build a good kit.
A bard with lantern shield and a good rapier and a survival bow is almost impossible to kill in 1x1 by most class. Barbarian, sorcerer are the only ones that can have advantage vs bards. Still bard can shriek to turn the table.

[small vault]

i think u forgot the most important perk, pickpocket

[ivory sapphire]

says the barb main lol

[cinder dust]

omg i actually did LMAO

[subtle heart]

You saying that because u are not new to the game.
When i was new i started with warlock and i died over and over. I build around plate warlock to kill some. But that is the wrong way of doing. Warlock is dificult to understand when u are new.

[subtle heart]

Right now im druid main. I play barb / ranger / druid / warlock and i will get back to sorcerer if they dont adjust the class.

[cinder dust]

i absalutley recked on warlock as a noob xd,also did cyclops pre 50hr gameplay

[charred veldt]

every class is piss easy compared to bosses for new players, I was a new player this wipe and spend 180 attempts at spectral knight

[cinder dust]

torture mastery vamprism,ez clap

[subtle heart]

nope. barbarian is just easy, fighter cleric same.
They are the easiest. u get a lot of kill with them even being a noob.

[ivory sapphire]

So you dont play bard then? if its so easy and op, why not play it then?

[charred veldt]

I played 4 games of warlock and was out there killing people with the panic button and curses that would heal me full hp

[night hound]

why does every lobby rat around every boss always?

[white lance]

because its a high skill floor and really high skill ceiling class that he cant cut it with.

[subtle heart]

I did not say is easy nor did i say is too op. I sayed is one of the strogenst. if u build correctly

[ivory sapphire]

thank you thats EXACTLY the point im tryna make

[night folio]

I only started warlock because the other classes were so easy and boring. Fighter, cleric and ranger were so boring while also being easy to pilot and insanely strong it made me wanna find something else and warlock was much more fun than wizard at the time. At least IMO

[subtle heart]

I play all classes, but i listed the one i actualy cycle. I did not find bard fun to play with. So i just played a litle deleted, like i did with sorcerer

[charred veldt]

"so easy and boring" go solo warlord with no spell wiz buddy

[cinder dust]

wait...no spell wizard is a thing omg i gotta try that lmao

[white lance]

There is hardly a middle ground with a bard players skill level. They are usually very bad or extremely cracked and would probably steam roll you on another class.

[subtle heart]

Omg ? High skilled class ? U just have to sing and shriek people and push punish them with bow rapier. Wtf u saying is a dificult class to play with ? Is normal class.
Sorcerer is dificult. Druid is dificult

The amount of imput u need to play a druid is utterly ridiculous, same as sorcerer, same as wizard per example.

[night folio]

Wow if you take away the entire thing that wizard does it makes it harder and weaker who knew. 0/10 input

[charred veldt]

aight bro, kill a boss only with magic misile and no melee

[subtle heart]

Is not good. The best wizard i think is rondell wizard.
Is a melee wizard that beats even barbs and still can cast spells with good damage.

[ivory sapphire]

Thats the point I made earlier with this guy cuz he was saying bard was really good. Bard is only good if youre a great bard player. it takes a lot more skill to win your fights on bard than barbarian

[night hound]

druid is not difficult, just bear to fight, rat to flee, and heal to full in seconds when out of combat

[cinder dust]

ohh yeah wasent expecting it to be good but i like trying meme builds,i mained pavise shield bash fighter for a good chunk of my playtime lmao

[subtle heart]

U just say 4 imputs to do something.
Bard is shriek punish.
Cause songs are almost all long term buffs.

[night folio]

Why wouldn't I melee. Sorry I know how to play in melee range of the bosses? Idk what you want from me.

Wizard in PvE is turbo boring. All mobs is just spam MM and bosses is either MM if you have a team or it's just the same melee as rogues or warlock depending on what weapons you run.

PVP is fun though

[patent void]

2 weeks seens last update?

[cosmic swan]

#dev-qna message

[night hound]

at least bard got some interesting variants with song of slience and lantern shield

[subtle heart]

And no u dont play druid like that, show that u dont play druid at all or u are really bad with.

A barb will swing a warmaul or zwei u transform into rat get closer them transform into bear so u can actualy hit him, cause the bear have -25 action speed.
The momento he try to run u need to fast switch to panther do a hit, go back to rat again and them bear to tank it.

[charred veldt]

nah you know what you win the argument I forgor what I was trying to argue

[subtle heart]

Is a insane imput class. The only class that have more imput than druid is sorcerer. In a real fight not noob fight.

Noob fight is, you go bear W and the other guy doing the same.

[night folio]

Lmao. I think you were trying to say wizard isn't boring/easy. But I didn't list wiz as one of the easy classes I hated lmao

[subtle heart]

for me the best meme build is the pavise shield trap on the goblin cave. Is illarious

[night hound]

yeah druid skill ceiling is insane, but every druid i ever fight just go bear and we stand there staring at eachother, and if i play a class with good spacing they just rat and run away. Almost all druid fights are super boring

[teal jetty]

nerf warlock in pve its stupid score for hr

[subtle heart]

Fight a druid is a pain in the a ss. A good druid, mostly cause he can run away better than you.
That is why u apply mostly same tatic as he does, u need to corner him and kill. When he goes rat or chicken jump u need francisca axe or any ranged to switch and kill

[night folio]

HR rank is not skill based. It is purely a time spent counter. Why do you care that they have to waste less time than other classes

[subtle heart]

Warlock is kinda balanced right now. He have disvantage vs druids rangers landmine rogues and sorcerers, and advantage vs most melees.

[low moat]

//*-

[subtle heart]

most people i fight with druid just try to W me when i was bear. ANd incredible some of them win cause bear is not that strogn as people think.
The problem with bear is -25 action speed, big guy who is a sponje to pve, and not mobile. He cant pass doors or hallways. Is really dificult to move around as a bear.

A barb or cleric with warmaul will destroy a bear just W.

The best counter to bear where u can go straight aread and not even try to dodge him. U can just W.
Is have 15+ action speed war maul.

[night hound]

i play heater shield with action speed perks and block, melee, block, melee against bears

[subtle heart]

Lanter is better. The riposite is re tard. Any riposite, longsword or lantern shield destroy bears.

[night hound]

but i also play spell reflect because its funny, so i need a big shield

[subtle heart]

And if u have action speed, that will make sure you land the riposite.
The good druid will always take the 1 riposite but if u are good enough on the 2 u transform into rat, them depending if enemy is wounded or not go cat or bear to finish

[night hound]

all warlocks run as soon as they curse of pain themselves

[teal jetty]

balance for pvp but hr rank is hr rank it need to be lance. then it mean its money making class that feel all other are useless /warlock. and kill a warlock who have 5 curse on mobs its ff

[subtle heart]

that skill is bad man. fighter have like 4 good skills. Sprint, second wind. The one that get more action speed.

THe one that get more action speed i recomend if u play slayer second wind and sprint is mostly common used

[subtle heart]

not true. that is a buff, remember is 15 15 str vit
warlock becames a barbarian in damage with that.

[night hound]

yeah it is bad but its hilarious when a clueless wizard zaps themselves 4 times in a row

[subtle heart]

Warlock with good life pool will do that on themselfs to just atack

[night folio]

PvP needs to be balanced yes. But being able to kill a bunch of trash mobs doesn't matter. It offers no advantage besides silly points on HR climbing. Anyone who cares to get warlord gets warlord it isn't a challenge. Anyone who wants to PvP and just run through rooms and close doors and not fight the mobs

[subtle heart]

Most damage u take by spell is tanked by the increase in vit. On enemies is a dual edge sword also. If u do that in a class that uses melee, like cleric barb, u need to run faster than the

[night hound]

im not trying to be optimal, i just think spell reflect is funny

[subtle heart]

dude if u are having trouble in play against warlock, just master druid. He have both weapons u need to kill a warlock.
depend on the gear u wearing and the gear he is wearing.

If u invest in panther u can kill robe warlocks.
If u invest in bear u can kill armored warlocks.
Hybrid u have both but at cost of money cause hybrid is expensive, and u have no advantage on the fight.

[night hound]

i refuse to play druid

[subtle heart]

oh ok. But like, a sorcerer cast 2 spells per second mostly with insta cast and dual cast.
You can reflect one spell u taking like 3 others to the face.
I dont like much that skill

[night hound]

no, spell reflect has an active timer where all spells are deflected

[night folio]

1 vig is 0.75 base health rating. In the range warlock generally are they get 2 hp per base ho rating. So power sac is roughly 22 hp gained. And the spell does 30 DMG with no scaling. So on average you take 8 DMG from the spell

[subtle heart]

Them dont complaing about them. is a really dificult class to play with and it get destroyed by good players all day cause the forms are worst than good weapons.

[cinder dust]

spell reflect also fun on pavise shield bash fighter,but sprint ends up being better for u in the long run but i agree its hilarious

[subtle heart]

also there is not a single artifact is good for a shifter druid.

[cinder dust]

ohh god gotta put another £ in the assasin glazing druid jar

[night hound]

thank you okra, very cool

[night folio]

Oh no the class that doesn't use weapons can't use the artifact weapons.

You also get to not take weapons in limited score brackets and not have that impact you in any way.

[subtle heart]

yeah but u also get 15 str. that gets u damage bonus and life.
If u are druid, your bear do more damage.

[night hound]

are artifacts the same as named weapons?

[night folio]

Yes

[subtle heart]

artifcats are incredible strong. Shifter atacks are not. If u chose the fast rondel atack from panther u have poor life poor pdr.
If u chose the heavy atack from bear u have -25 action speed clumsy as hell.

Druid atack are just bad. that is a high skill class. the only thing druid is absolute good at is running.

[subtle heart]

limited score bracket white weapons do same damage as a full 224 druid. U just need to get some damage bonus

[night hound]

are purple named items like thorn shield, that is dropped from special enemy, and mana sphere, that is crafted, still artifacts/named items?

[subtle heart]

People build wrong on score brakets.
They get purple / legendary weapons.

Just update your char and get white weapons. You will do more damage faster and be more resilent.

[red kindle]

🫃

[ruby fossil]

does a lot more than 8 because it scales your hp down at the end of the spell

[night folio]

Druid also shreds through armor so they counter PDR stackers. Druids also have a silence so they can counter casters. They also have form swapping to counter the majority of large weapons.

Also 224 druids deals way more DMG than base druid. If you are using your weapons as druid then that's a you issue.

[west steppe]

Does anybody have any idea when wipe coming?

[subtle heart]

WHAT ? where u do get this ? Druids dont shreds through armor, false state.

[night folio]

..... Brother

[subtle heart]

Silence is for panther invested char. u cant do that if u invest in bear.
So u can chose to be good vs casters and bad vs melee.
That is a choice everyone does in the game when they build.

[subtle heart]

after the 4 stacks of trasnformation u cant swap effectively to counter weps.
A person can switch faster between per example a hatchet and a zweihander. than a druid can switch forms

[night folio]

Panther counters PDR you attack super fast and have a bleed attached to your attacks to double apply true DMG from your gear. You completely ignore armor

[subtle heart]

did i need u to rememeber riposite weps just destroy druids ?

[minor jackal]

Remove animal men

[half spire]

I cant tell if this guy is a druid main larping @night folio

[subtle heart]

omg are u a noob or something ? panther weakness is pdr people. A good druid never fight a pdr with panther they just atack and run if needed to.
You will deal more damage, have more life and pdr than any panther.

[cinder dust]

or rage baiting

[last spindle]

I love that the warlock hate has turned to druids 😂

[minor jackal]

Both are equally terrible for the game

[dire mesa]

sugomadiggo

[teal jetty]

im wizard, probably i have best to wait any mobs left on area and run away if i see warlock. in arena they are less a problem of course;

[summer mist]

is doing hr cyclops worth it over normals? New and trying to grind bread

[ruby fossil]

honestly not sure not all that long ago he died to a fighter because he misplayed and had a little fit in chat when no one agreed with his takes

[night folio]

He must be. Either he has zero idea how druids work or he is larping

[half spire]

both are an issue that needs to be fixed, its just ironmace has terrible sight.

[last spindle]

But rogues are fine though 😂

[subtle heart]

Them go rondell wizard. Rondell wizard destroy your two worst enemies. Landmine rogues and panther. You still have some spells. But now u can tank and deal more damage in melee.

[cerulean crypt]

Nah he's right shapeshift Druid can't really win against PDR in a straight fight. The problem with Druid is they either win or run away. They can't really lose fights unless they take a fight they shouldn't have taken.

[half spire]

you shouldn't be trying to check pdr though, you should be going in and out like a rogue into pdr matchups, you have so much utility to never be caught while forcing someone to mess up.

[subtle heart]

omg how a -10% health - 30%pdr panther can win a fight against pdr ? what u saying is insane.
Proves u never played with druid and try to kill a pdr fighter or cleric.

[night folio]

Rondel wizard does not beat rogues and panthers lmao what

[subtle heart]

In 224 brackets u can make a panther kill a pdr, if the pdr is noob and make his gear towards a legendary/puple weapon.

[cinder dust]

okey ngl cleric absalutley slams druids into the ground lmao that i can agree on

[cerulean crypt]

Hit and run can definitely work sometimes. Depends on the situation.

[subtle heart]

Ok now u show u are noob. Go watch videos on youtube before you continue to spread missinformation

[subtle heart]

depends. Warmaul cleric yes. shield mace cleric is not good counter a druid.

Warmaul -20 penetration + action speed will destroy any shifter druid.

[cinder dust]

i run both and switch into diffrent matchups

[subtle heart]

and what about action speed ? u need at least 15 to warmaul be good

[teal jetty]

im hude fan of the sword but i can try rondel yes xD

[night folio]

Wizard with no perks for daggers and worse base stats somehow beats rouge with better base stats and perks to make their daggers better. Write that down

[subtle heart]

The build is simple, you get all shields possible, and even the skill shield. Have also fire stuff. And you use fire all the time on your rondel.
Have the cyclops orb on the hand.

You do insane amount of damage same speed atack as panter.

[cerulean crypt]

I think we still have to deal with the fact that a competent Druid will just never die. Like yeah it's true Druid can't just win every fight and has to choose particular targets but they have the freedom to do that without any real risk to themselves.

[light oasis]

You can shift into the rat if you’re low, or chicken jump backwards into bhop.

[cinder dust]

the bottom left player picture for druids rat form is so cute lmao

[subtle heart]

wizards have like 2 3 forms of shield to from damage.
have fire weapon that does absolute destroys druids in fact they cant even rat cause they take fire damage.

Same weapon atack speed. but not of the coons of panther.
You stack life and pdr and will. You have ranged atacks and on close u can destroy even a barb.

[tepid orbit]

what counters caster warlolck?

[cinder dust]

i love rondel ignite wizzard just if u get cutthroated or silenced ur actually chalked lmao

[subtle heart]

Reactive shield + Ice Shield + Fire Mastery + anything u want.

[cerulean crypt]

Static exits

[subtle heart]

skills arcane shield + spell memory slot

Stack pdr / life / will / have kno to your spells. And movement speed

[summer mist]

damn two bad takes back to back is crazy work

[cinder dust]

2 is light work for this dood

[night folio]

He's either a rage baiter or really bad at the game

[summer mist]

This man works for a school cafeteria with the nasty shit he's cooking

[subtle heart]

rondell + cyclop orb
Spells

• invisible
• zap
• fireball
• Ignite
  you can chose explosion or magic missle.

Explosion is a better overhall spell, but magic missle will destroy close gappers like a panther per example.
I would take explosion if u are good aiming with rondell.

[cerulean crypt]

Rondel Dagger Wizard is insane I dunno why people are acting like he's crazy

[cinder dust]

that bit i do agree on rondel wizard is nuts(1st time playing it actually felt like the server admin lmao)

[subtle heart]

You can invisible to close gap or run from people.
@cerulean crypt most people here are noobs who dont understand core mechanics and just complaing of something they dont understand and die a lot or cant kill.

[summer mist]

It snot that we are saying its bad, but saying it gaps rogue in the paint is crazy

[polar reef]

panther silences

[subtle heart]

Ok just atack with fire rondell u win the trade. u have more hp and more pdr and more damage.

[cinder dust]

dosent the silence cancel the ignite?

[peak orchid]

Game dead iron mace hate me

[cerulean crypt]

No

[night folio]

This guy's just a druid apologist who is trying to say his class is weak because he can't pilot it.

[cinder dust]

ohhh damn,so i might actually play more rondell and just try and be super careful into cutrhoat and druids

[cerulean crypt]

Silence stops you from casting spells and interrupts any casting but it doesn't remove buffs

[polar reef]

druid is not high skill class, its br4indead, 40+ agi panter = win

[cinder dust]

im not a wizard main i just dabbled in it slightly and found it fun :3

[subtle heart]

Remember, wizard rondel still a wizard, still throwing fireballs.
You can kite, druid can't kite. Druid dont have any ranged.
Fireball still does a lot of damage as does zap.
With true magic damage

[polar reef]

ye sure buddy u gonna kite a chicken panther druid lool

[summer mist]

me when I hit a druid and they chicken rat through a door and I will never see them until Im at 1 hp again

[subtle heart]

hahahaahahah another noob. build a druid, and come to me as barb with your 60 agi panther. lets see who win.

[cerulean crypt]

My only issue with Druids is they essentially can't be killed. Not that they're OP in head-to-head encounters.

[fiery plaza]

what stat gives u spell casting speed?

[night folio]

Druid has no ranged options besides throwing themselves through the sky all the way across the room lmao. No ranged options though for sure.

[polar reef]

u are a bot man, u clearly have no plan about the game

[subtle heart]

u dont need to, you win a trade with rondell if he close fast gap.

[cinder dust]

and dreamfire dosent exist either tbf tho dreamfire dmg is pitiful

[subtle heart]

Holy shit this communit is full of noobs who cry over they dont understand. U guys are prob 0.5 kd ratio. My worst ranger have 5.0 kd ratio.

[cinder dust]

and evryone can throw drums too

[polar reef]

here look the videos froma druid player and tell me its hard

[cinder dust]

as a cleric enjoyer i have become very used to not going into a raid without 3 drums lmao

[subtle heart]

drums are slow and full advantage of drums is on bards. A bear druid can do good damage. But a panther druid will do mediocre if any at all.

[cerulean crypt]

I don't really think anything in this game is high skill.

[polar reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8gYfhxkOPY druid ez gameplay

[subtle heart]

holy shit u showing korus gameplay. He play vs bots.
Go to skinny pete videos, he killed so many times korus also dimo.

[subtle heart]

as a cleric i would get like 6. Cleric is strong as fuck as melee but is slow and have no ranged also.
I find dificult to win battles with cleric that is why i deleted. I would not die but dont killed any.

[teal jetty]

more AP/loot in HR2? or its just GS matching ?

[polar reef]

see, u have no plan, cleric can be fast too. also yes i show druid youtuber gameplay. what else. if u think panther is balanced or bad u clearly play in squiere lobbies

[subtle heart]

Just look the gamplay. is just boths, omg the sorcerer did 2 spells and took 4/5 of his life. 2 spells almost killed a 140 panther. is ridiculous.
The guys he play he just rush towards jump to the head and people cant catch him.

If u do this as reference u prob a bot as well.

Go see good videos like skinny pete and dimo. Also

[polar reef]

go learn the game man , stop playing in squiere lobbies

[subtle heart]

A fast cleric is mostly bad.
Any fast char have mostly bad pdr. if not them u sacrificing other thing.

[cinder dust]

i perform the best on cleric fits my playstyle

[subtle heart]

7.0 kd ratio hr on barb
6.0 on druid
5.0 with ranger.
5.5 with warlock actually all on HR.

I bet i can beat you with any my classes and against any of yours.

[mellow summit]

how do i link my epic to steam

[cinder dust]

where do i see my KDA?

[cerulean crypt]

What do you die to on your Druid?

[glossy pike]

@subtle heart send me pv with your stats pls

[polar reef]

timmy stomper clearly

[mellow summit]

trying to link account but dont see a account tab....

[ruby fossil]

I have a 100000 kd ratio real and true believe me pls

[subtle heart]

like fast cleric ?

@cerulean crypt
Pdr fighters longsword or shield
Landmine rogues
Warmaul or zweihander barbs
And sorcerer. I have a 60mdr panther build and still die to ridiculous class sorcerer.

[cinder dust]

just cleric in general

[subtle heart]

mostly timmys like you yeah, the game is full of noobs like you who dont understand the game and just cry about something.

[polar reef]

bro u are so full of sh1t, u lose to longsword fighers with panther? what game are u playing

[ruby fossil]

they're about to give sorc more spells and perks have fun

[cinder dust]

where can i view my KDA ??

[subtle heart]

holy shit, are u reta rd ? pdr fighter destroys panther/bear. no brain noob omg.

[polar reef]

no it doenst bot, also where did u see ur KD on each class

[subtle heart]

sure how can i do that. My ingame name from my druid is SarevArievilo

[ruby fossil]

you look at your kills deaths assists in the player statistics tab bottom right in the lobby

[smoky jetty]

suppppp

[subtle heart]

omg u dont know where to see kd ratio and u telling me im a bot ? u are so noob u dont know that ?

[cinder dust]

omg viper hi :3

[smoky jetty]

I wanted to post a mole gif but I cant

[cinder dust]

same honestly the lack of being able to post moles is quite the tradgedy

[gloomy mirage]

Daily reminder to add a utility wheel for rogue and remove hide, make a shadowmacer who has a version of hide, give them dark magic. Thanks

[polar reef]

go learn the game , stop defend panther druid

[smoky jetty]

yeeee I heared u into cleric, I am too, but I am a druid main, still learning it tho, I cant do the micky mouse door jump yet

[subtle heart]

no. rogue inv is one of the fun things on the game that make the games tense.

Is just too easy if u go to a place and know there is none people there.

[magic spruce]

knowledge. The tooltip gives you info if you hover stats, or the wiki says my guy

[smoky jetty]

brewmaster cleric with buff stacking goess brrr

[gloomy mirage]

It’s fun for about a few hours. Assassinating people should take more skill about map knowledge and being stealthy instead of standing in a doorway and clicking a button

[cinder dust]

i play a bit of evrything,my longest time main,was a pavise shield bash fighter,as i like playing jank xd

[smoky jetty]

gigachad

[cinder dust]

also i love bard,just went off bard a little bit after "the fighter incident "

[smoky jetty]

I played the most on fighter with longsword, but I am kinda tired of stuff clipping through my parry

[cinder dust]

yeah same i played longsword fighter from like lvl 0-50 got a bit tired of the jank hitboxes,but learnt to parry a ton of stuff,then i found pavise shield bonk xd while experimenting with builds

dont even run a ranged weapon on it like a gigachad

[smoky jetty]

I played it this wipe from 0 to 203, but I want to learn druid for now

problem with druid is the money, good kits eat money, today been a bad day and I am already down -4k

[lethal bluff]

is there a way to change the drop and equip keybinds?

[smoky jetty]

like people always say u can shiit on rogues as panther druid but this is cap, unless I am not in max bis I tend to lose due pdr penalty ... god I hate rogues

[cinder dust]

yknow thats fair cuthroat is brutal,druid is fun to play ngl

[smoky jetty]

I hope they remove rogues at some point, its just such a coward class

[tight sierra]

guys... how often is it in game, where people use multiple accounts to dress up 1 char to go past gearscore? We've encounted what looks like this so far in our games.

[cinder dust]

nah i dont think any class should be removed,i think there all fun :3

[smoky jetty]

I played rogue for 2-3 games and deleted the char, it felt so gaayyy to play like a rat

[sleek lark]

4k barely buys the jewelry for a good druid kit youre prob losing bc youre missing so much damage

[smoky jetty]

okay mr rich guy I was talking about 224 kits

[sleek lark]

224 doesnt matter for druid at all tho

[smoky jetty]

you can buy rare +to all att with true damage jewlery for around 1k each

[mellow summit]

where all the high roller goblin cave gamers at

[cerulean crypt]

Okay, follow-up question. Why do you even choose to fight PDR Fighters and Zwei/War Maul Barbs? Couldn't you see what they are and just not fight them?

[smoky jetty]

they in castle

[sleek lark]

the class scales with how many stats you have so skimping on gear hurts you far more than on any other class

[mellow summit]

man im too new for that map

[smoky jetty]

problem is even with almost 40 agility I tend to get smoked by rogues if I miss my paws

[glossy pike]

Do ss and send me 🙂

[sleek lark]

and they get smoked if they miss their stabs

[queen spruce]

Was there a live Q and A yesterday, and if so where could I find it?

[wild finch]

Best class to own people i just came back

[echo sparrow]

there was a post by SDF but no actual Q&A #dev-qna

[lament helm]

If we actually removing bunny hopping this time. You must increase MS when casting, remove insta cast on druids and reduce MS of fighter, barb, and rogue. Or ya know, give the 1 class your neglect (wizard) some major buffs/reworks.

[sleek lark]

druid

[queen spruce]

Thanks!

[teal jetty]

i hesitate for spell overlord for passiv wizard what do you think about the -kn ?

[cinder dust]

also if u get cutthroated ur omegachalked xd

[smoky jetty]

ye

[dusk jacinth]

Just ran through half of inferno looking for portals. Why did they remove portals from previous rooms like spider den?

[smoky jetty]

cause they want people to die down there ... thus I exit mostly in crypts

[cinder dust]

yeah crypts i can evac like 95% of the time but inferno is a desolate hell hole both figurativley and litteraly,and the randomness and fog of war rly aint helping ur case lmao

[regal light]

would love to see some more blues in inferno

[sterile drift]

greetings dungeoneers! Relatively new player - noticing i'm getting a lot of crashes since nvidia patch this wknd? has anyone else experienced similar? Is there a patch since then? Or is uninstall - reinstall the best bet?

[upper jackal]

anyone know where to find lifeleaf? for the alchemist quest

[lethal bluff]

inferno. several modules. you can find the exact spots on interactive map

[vale falcon]

just F druid man

[cinder dust]

also if inferno is too painful u can farm ruins worms

[unborn adder]

3 OVER HEAD attacks on a barb and he still has half health im in bear form LMFAO whaaaaaa? did they buff barb? but by all means please nerf Druid jajjajaja

[cinder dust]

somone get me a glass for these delicious druid tears

i started playing cleric because the class is cool and hes strong in melee,stayed as a cleric main to womp druids

[subtle heart]

how can i send you, i dont use discord.

[smoky comet]

game is dead or what? do they even update this

[cinder dust]

updates on monthly schedule

[teal jetty]

pls add unlimited or 25 or more trade order.. its sad to make many character only for sell items

[subtle heart]

done i did send u

[subtle heart]

Some times i build bear with action speed. This close the gap. I chose to fight to improve. Not every fight i can win, but every fight i can improve and see what i can do diferently.
Per example. I normaly run from this classes as panther. But when hybrid i study them more and try to engage until half life. And bear i try to full go for it.

Hybrid is just expensive to lose. Bear is mid term and panther is the cheapest set. Still 5k set normaly.

[cerulean crypt]

You seem to care a lot about your KD. If you avoided fights you thought you'd have a high chance of losing on your Druid, what do you think your KD would be on Druid?

[subtle heart]

In fact. if you consider.
Same skill level
Same gear level.
A druid will always lose the 1x1. He have disvantage in 1x1. A druid is really good in hit and run tatics. So 3rd party or stealth is the best way a druid can play.

[light oasis]

The major buffs that magic classes have is they can build 7 true which negates MDR. And they have abilities with 100% scaling. I imagined there would be ranged shills, but I’d rather have them remove the four new classes and rework combat than buff or nerf anymore shit.

[subtle heart]

One major improv in the game should be remove true damage. That damage make any fast atack. like a rondel do too much damage