game-discussion

[worn nova]

why?

[chrome sun]

You are acting like all you sent was a list? No you used it as a gateway to down others.

Dont act dumb like you arent tryna use it as an excuse to call others timmys and try and talk about how bad they are at the game cuz they can't keep up with sweats

[misty axle]

You just dont understanding some ppl reaction speed is no the same from their vessel design. Some folk out here want to enjoy the game not being a sweat and hunt everyone down

[thorn nimbus]

the game is about killing whether you like it or not if you refuse to engage in pvp thats on you

[misty axle]

In the other hand i can also say ruining other players game is also on you

[dry kite]

If i were to word his "advices" in another way, you should look up guides on youtube as there are plenty of them, be it for beginners or high-end players. But I do agree with him on the complaining part as it won't help you learn anything, but note that you'll have to invest a fair amount of time to learn the basics first then everything else about the game

EDIT : Also you should avoid taking people here seriously as some (many) are very, VERY toxic. In fact the lesser time you spend here, the better your mental health

[chrome sun]

If the next thing you have to provide me is just calling me a timmy or "how are you supposed to get better if I dont call you a timmy?" or just ignore what this whole argument is about them imma block you cuz the energy just isnt worth it.

[rocky coral]

if I equip a weapon with+ 3 bonus health and I get no health is the game bugged

[dry kite]

You have to hold the weapon in game to get the bonus

[misty axle]

Only affect stats from weapon while you holding in your hand

[chrome sun]

Why feel the need to call someone a timmy or just tell them to uninstall the game? Was there any need for it? Was I blowing up about how bad the game is cuz I can't pvp well? No? Then where was the trigger for being called a "timmy" and told to "uninstall" the game every other message from you.

You sent one list started insulting and act like you provided the gospel to the game

[hard rock]

YEAH THIS GAME SUCKS BRO I CANT WIN

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[sweet ore]

154gs, ran into someone straight away that was 540, died obviously, checked the lobby and 4 others were 450+
Matchmaking working as intended I see

[chrome sun]

<25 gs, 25-125 gs, and 125+ lobbies. stay under 125gs

most I usually bring with me is 50 or 60 gs

[sweet ore]

I thought 125+ they were matching GS close to yours?

[forest sail]

when you run into a group of 4 teaming timmies in solo gobby caves and you casually slaughter them without having to pop second wind

[chrome sun]

This is legit the only discord, you are the ONLY discord user, I have ever seen try and use Timmy in a way that isnt calling them a kiddie.
Just call someone a noob, its something everyone can be like "yeah I'm a noob lol", and wont get insulted by

[dry kite]

It's true for HR, but i don't know about normal (it should be tho)

[forest sail]

actually timmy is the textbook term for newbie in dark and darker

[chrome sun]

Ofc it is, why would I expect anything less from a community of sweats.
Just gotta be toxic towards new players.

[pure beacon]

The teaming issue is just getting worse and worse every patch. Its nearly as close as the old time where everyone was frightend about zwei barbs farming portals for ap points

[forest sail]

well get good and then you wont be called a timmy now will you

[stark yew]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-3094746547306242594

[chrome sun]

must be an extraction game term, this and level zero extraction are the first games I've played in extraction.

@forest sail still no need though to constantly tell a player they should uninstall the game. They installed and bought it perhaps because they were willing to put in the effort and hours to get better? I've had it for 40 hours no need to tell me every message to uninstall it

[worn nova]

its a term in extraction games, getting offended by it is your thing only

[chrome sun]

I'm not offended by that tbh, I only was pointing out its toxic (typically outside of extraction ig), to call someone a timmy over and over.

I also pointed out how he doesnt need to be telling someone to uninstall the game over and over

[thorn nimbus]

ok timmy

[worn nova]

y'all will call anything offensive

[chrome sun]

Offended, no. I'm new to the game. I deal with toxic ppl online all the time. The only reason its gone on this long with me is cuz I'm patient and dont succumb to peer pressure. So being called a "kid", "timmy" "discordian", I'm used to all that. I am someone that enjoys supporting giving new players less pressure to get better at the game, just because I happen to be a new player doesnt mean I'm just bias to it in this game alone. I will put up the energy to argue it. Only reason I threatened to block Generous OP is because I can see when an argument is going in circles and when someone just refuses to reason, hence not worth the energy.

[stark yew]

I just aim to be slightly less trash than the round before .

[fervent anvil]

:[]

[chrome sun]

So I will call out telling someone to uninstall is toxic af. No reason to. Especially when every single message you send is just telling them "uninstall the game"

[forest sail]

i have literally said to uninstall it 0 times i actually offered to teach you but you are being too busy acting like a woman on her time of the month to take any constructive criticism or advice and all you want to do is complain complain complain my guy how do you expect to get good at anything ever if you just wanna complain nonstop and not the time to play it. the reason people are getting more rude and toxic towards you is because you are continually getting butthurt over people trying to help you so now when theyre saying to uninstall you wanna act like a victim lmao

[chrome sun]

Read GenerousOP's messages. This whole time I've only been arguing with him. Sorry if I made it seem like I was bickering at you. Every message, including the one with the oh so helpful list, was saying to "uninstall cuz maybe the game isnt for me"

[dry wraith]

pls give arming sword base damage roll of 31-32 tysm IM u r the bestestestestestest

[chrome sun]

Why tell someone to uninstall when there is no refunds. Support them getting better, why just shoo them away?

[worn nova]

nuh uh

[chrome sun]

The fine print specifically said on the legendary status button there is no refunds

[stark yew]

Brah provided a list to get better. The only takeaway from that was I'm angry about being a timmy and told to uninstall

[forest sail]

what part of this was for my incredible self?

[chrome sun]

Yes I'm such a victim cri cri, no. This whole time I've just been pointing out how bad it is for a community to universally accept tryna feed into pissing off its new users and shooing them away. Yall wanna try and piss me off by doing the "ur being a victim" argument

[forest sail]

ah okay cool

[chrome sun]

In what way is telling me I should uninstall the game helping. Did I say your list of tips was the problem? I'm in USA, no refunds for me.

Are you high? Can you not focus on the convo rn? It feels like you are skimming over it like a book assignment in middle school

actually throwing my shoes on rn, should be walking out the door rn but I'm not used to a discord having 1 minute slowdown at all times

[ornate acorn]

Why does every person who plays this game have big ego battles in the main Discord

[forest sail]

my real goal all along was to make you late for work so you get fired and have to play dar kand dakrer nonstop

[chrome sun]

nah I have a saying "if not 30 minutes early you're late", so I have time lol. I always have time.

I'm 22 lol, I have bills to pay wish I could be unemployed tho.
Aight I'm walking out the door cyall.

@forest sail Imma hyu for pvp practice after I get off work in 9 hours

[forest sail]

bruh this fkin game doesnt wanna give me the one set of beetle wings i need

[warm whale]

the squire wont let me go into a dungeon because i have something legendary or higher on me when i dont?

[rapid vapor]

Do you have coins or coin bags on you?

[warm whale]

the feckin coins

[forest sail]

i can troll you into a fight, i think ranger is a underpowered class and needs to be buffed

most likely lol

[proven swift]

do infernos count as howling crypt

[hard rock]

Yeah I'm Uninstalling I'm just done with this game

Totally broken bosses can't even beat them with fighter

[glass jewel]

bring back the circle.

[high sapphire]

another reason warlock is op. they diff every boss

[hard rock]

Will Ironmace ever fix game

[runic turtle]

What bosses? Fighter is good at bosses

[void field]

does the frost skeleton add +1 weapon damage to bows?

[swift grove]

yes

[void field]

thats crazy

[swift grove]

also adds 1 weapon damage to thrown weapons, hand crossbows, torches, bare fists, druid forms, instruments and of course flute parry

[void field]

THE MUTHERFUCKIN FLUTE

[high sapphire]

idk if ur new but the game is in a pretty ok state now. i just dont like the double ms roll boots for pvp. i think its too expensive for normal people to run and such a big difference when you dont have them. such a big gear diff with a big price tag just for ms

[forest sail]

will you ever get good at this game? ||spoilers the answer is no||

[fervent anvil]

Imagine being good.

[violet wedge]

How do u get crystal sword in the squire? Like what quest do I do?

[fervent anvil]

Clearly the armorer

[void field]

new petention, mix the campfire perk withe the trap perk on ranger

[fervent anvil]

Placement mastery?

[void field]

yup

[forest sail]

new petition: wizards explosion size and damage should be x10

[vapid arch]

new petition: wizard explosion should only affect the enemy's prostate

[forest sail]

new petition, ice bolt should freeze enemies for the entire game, get rid of that pesky w key

[void field]

good idea

[forest sail]

New Petition: Druid's rat form should be the size of bear form, but with the same health ||(im full of good ideas)||

[untold plume]

skins for the transformations would be cool

[desert orchid]

nah druid needs tree of life buff 🙏

[frozen adder]

what should I do when a teamate in random matchmaking is pushy and only want others teamate to follow him to engage in PvP and play as if it's battle royal ?

[warped quarry]

Is anyone else experiencing completely empty lobbies? I haven't had a match with more than two parties in game since they changed matchmaking.

[fervent anvil]

Ignore him and play however you want. It aint like he can force you

[runic turtle]

call him a nerd

[frozen adder]

I don,t want to compliment him

ok I'll just mute/ignore and go lone wolf

[stone haven]

It is a battle Royale fyi

[arctic latch]

https://outplayed.tv/dark-and-darker/Zgbzn5

[void field]

guyssssssssssss, what are the best ranger perks lol asking for a friend

[frozen adder]

killing other player doesn,t give you the win. escaping does.

[hard rock]

Yeah nice bait I'm blocking you permanently

[arctic latch]

awesome game

[oblique fossil]

does gold give ap?

[exotic cipher]

If I grind for champ skeleton race can I use the skin on other characters or only the character I used to get it?

[runic turtle]

cosmetics are account wide

[exotic cipher]

Thank you

[fervent anvil]

Sounds like you got a skill issue

[high sapphire]

just my opinion ok lol. dont gotta get that upset damn

[torn fulcrum]

IF THE TAVERN IS NO LONGER ACCESSIBLE, WE DEMAND THAT YOU ALLOW US TO FIND AND EXTRACT FROM THE DUNGEONS WITH OTTO.

[dark hinge]

no

[oblique fossil]

thx, ive never taken it with me so i was curious

[high sapphire]

i just wanna be able to test my dmg or build before going in

[worthy hedge]

did they ever show what the highroller skins and stuff are gonna look like in a sneak peak or something

[oblique fossil]

IM honestly tired of all the phantasms and the druid being able to freely shapeshift is annoying, but i agree the dbl ms roll needs to be killed

[runic turtle]

theyre working on a new social hub thing

[high sapphire]

i just dont like the door jump. thats my only problem

[oblique fossil]

they could turn the ruins lobby into a training arena and just throw otto in there

[worthy hedge]

what class is best with skeleton skin

[azure panther]

anyone else having q issues? been tryna q for 6 minutes now and not gotten into a raid

[narrow fern]

How are the high roller matches with the new patches coming along?

[high sapphire]

ruiins needs to be a map again!!!!

[oblique fossil]

they ruined it by giving rouges dbl jump

[distant forge]

goblin merch bugged with the recovery thing ? gave my friend a void blade and when he extracted it gave me the dialogue from goblin merch saying my friend brought something out but i dont have it and its not in the merchans service tab \

[minor bolt]

after wipe are you going to have to do the same task for the quests?

[stone haven]

Mostly the same

[high sapphire]

DJ is back and i hope ruins is back. im a pickpocket main lol. been pvpinga lot more the last 2 seasons

[arctic latch]

rats

[terse crystal]

i hate the new wyvern feel wierd with him walking lol

[fervent bronze]

Anyone finding only one other team in there gobbo trios? 5 games in a row, only one team

[fervent anvil]

Have you tried looking around?

[fervent bronze]

yup. both ways. twice

[barren grail]

does skill based matchmaking exist?

[oblique fossil]

no, its based off gear

[barren grail]

the second this matchmaking update came out everyone i play against in normal is 10x better

[dense yoke]

Anyone else feels that rangers are massively outclassed by almost all other classes? Or do I need to git gud?

[oblique fossil]

i doubt that, do you know whats BIS for ur class?

[dense yoke]

Mostly yeah, but other than Wyrm, I can't solo any of the bosses and in pvp all other classes basically can get in my face easily outdamaging me

[young garden]

make it so i can pick the fucking map

[oblique fossil]

i dont rly play fighter but isnt full pdr the meta right now?

[viscid badge]

just fucking lost a kit bcuz of a random disconnect

[dense yoke]

I guess, but the fact that SW allows a fighter to come up to my face, rip me in half, and end the fight practically unscathed, has become on of my pet peeves

[runic turtle]

lil bit of git gud, barb with iron will can counter you but every other match up is pretty winnable. you basically have to use traps and lead ppl to them

[devout swan]

hey does magical damage weapons like the crystal sword scale with will?

[dense yoke]

Thought so, tbh I feel like other than the traps, Ranger is missing a true class identity

[urban anchor]

Is it a known bug that the summoned treants don't attack bosses?

my Tree Brother just took a 1,1,2 combo from Cyclops and went to sleep

[runic turtle]

yea i think. theres a fighter will build with crystal sword

[devout swan]

tnx

[dull surge]

Love the fact most of us miss pre game lobbies and only the sweats complain about it

[vapid arch]

the only people that miss pre game are the people who can only play with meta knowledge going into a raid

[smoky coyote]

can anyone in here send me a inv to trading discord

[proven flare]

hello guys does melt perk on wizard if used with rondel dagger and ignite stack on each hit or its a one time debuff

[scarlet cedar]

i liked the tavern vibes of the pregame lobby even if it wasnt practical for some ppl. like it connected the tavern feel of the normal lobby to the rest of the gameplay. love that tavern vibe and will miss it

[runic turtle]

pretty sure theyre working on a social hub

[scarlet cedar]

i have high hopes. this game is still really fun anyway

[runic turtle]

it just refreshes the debuff. fire mastery is better for melee dps imo

[vagrant furnace]

Hey guys I just lost a bis set. The other guy was cheating right? Or using OP class? All I know it wasnt my fault

[oblique fossil]

whats even the point of a social hub when the game is instance based? i dont rly get it

[arctic latch]

game is going down the spiral. trust me guys this is going to be the last one season!

[nimble zodiac]

hey guys, sorry if this was asked often before but i bought the game yesterday after 45 hours f2p. i applied to become a seller and i just wanted to ask if there is like a list of items with all the best enchantments on them to know what i should pick up and not to pick up? i dont know all classes and what kinda stats they like so it would be great if someone has something like that

[arctic latch]

i mean the last best season. then the game will be boring flashy and corny

[nimble zodiac]

wdym? the game will die very soon?

[jaunty steeple]

gotta learn the attacks fella

[winter parcel]

the HR needs a freaking bracket system...just got put into a lobby as a 225 wizzard with 600+ people

[vapid arch]

HR is the place for people to bring in their best gear, brackets would defeat the point of that

[lean rover]

This doesn't make sense

[winter parcel]

HR is a JOKE! how can you expect to get any bit of rank if you are paired at such huge discrepancy?

[vapid arch]

then don't bring in ass kits that barely meet the minimum gear required, if you don't have a good kit then don't run HR yet
its the end of wipe, everyone's using their juiced kits before they lose it

[lean rover]

You don't know what high roller is, honestly.

[winter parcel]

so i am supposed to run normal for 2-3 weeks just to get 1 kit into high roller only for some highranker or a cheater to kill me? you make 0 sense dude

[vapid arch]

if it takes you 2-3 weeks to get a good kit then that's on you
you don't understand that this is a loot based game and after over 2 months everyone has really good loot, so bringing in terrible loot means you're going to die

[winter parcel]

you should just go play solitaire or dungeonborne

[vapid arch]

im not the one crying in discord about how i can't survive in HR

[winter parcel]

guess i have 1 more dead brain person on my block list. cheers @vapid arch

[lean rover]

It's honestly your fault, he completely ignores the point of HR and you keep paying him attention , just don't mind him.

[vapid arch]

brother's mad

[slender sedge]

What is yall's vision of high roller?

[sage socket]

lots of money

[winter parcel]

i just blocked him. i usually do if they dont make any sense

[vapid arch]

high roller is high risk for high reward, people bring in good gear to mitigate the risk and increase their chances of extracting with loot
by extension of that logic HR is the place for people to bring in their best sets

[sage socket]

i just downloaded the game and haven't played yet. watching IEM cologne

[slender sedge]

Absolutely a fair take

[runic turtle]

its really not hard to make money in this game. just pvp alot iin normals with budget kits and sell ppls gear

[slate geode]

is there a bug where your frame drops around other people?

[flat crater]

any fix for amd?

[runic turtle]

wym my game runs fine on amd

[tidal mortar]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on classes atm?

[runic turtle]

rondel buckler fighter is dumb and lame

[vapid arch]

decreasing damage and increasing healing across the board has only highlighted the issues with combat in this game, all classes are inherently jank in the ways that they're allowed to be played
pdr rondel buckler survival fighter, buff duration demonlock, frontline cleric, stat stick barb, 20 bear trap ranger and the revival of wizard
all of this is made worse with move speed meta and people constantly kiting and not actually fighting

[toxic fern]

anyone else still rubberbanding and even a lil worse since patch?

[tiny idol]

can we get an end of wipe event where loot drops like crazy

[runic turtle]

The skeleton merchant gives u legendaries lol

[tiny idol]

bruh im tryin to go in with nothin and leave with viola lmao

[vapid arch]

farm HR wyvern with squire warlock then

[plucky arrow]

If they remove pregame lobby i'd like to see them adding Otto to a map where he is just chilling in a safe room, and if you pet him he raises his head and reveals like a fix drop lockpick/1slot treasure with a higher chance of better quality.
Also who else thinks that there should be an explosive item (kinda a like a c4 charge or something) that you set down for a pretty long time and then have like 5-10 seconds before it explodes somewhat like a fireball but breaks ice pillars in 1 go even if its not a "direct hit". I think that would be cool

[vast lichen]

Hi guys, what is your top 3 map in the game ? i am rly curious about it, thanks

[rocky lagoon]

staff has a melee attack spellbook doesnt, spellbook casts faster

[fervent anvil]

Bonk and no bonk

[rocky lagoon]

its probably on the wiki or some website, but if you use them you can notice the difference

[dull surge]

Why did removing the pre lobbies make this game so much more... bland

[plucky arrow]

Goblin caves, Inferno, Ice caves. (abyss needs work and crypts can get boring but has some of the best map parts imo)

[sonic schooner]

in the dark and darker wiki
Spellbook: 1s
Crystal ball: 1.1s
Crystal sword: 1.9s
Magic Staff: 1.6s

[dull surge]

Hello sweat

[low shuttle]

ok im glad we can all que up randomly with people

[rocky lagoon]

no but they have different magic damage values and those affect it

[low shuttle]

but lets fix it so we arent qued against 3 people who are together, so when you que with randoms you play against other people qued with randoms, i just qued up got 2 randoms. ran into 3 full golded out crossbow rangers sitting in the dark shooting people who have never played with each other

[dull surge]

Yea that made it more entertaining when I go in juicy its because I'm spoiling for a fight with this I don't see voip being used at all anymore cause no one tries to talk themselves out of a fight or really ever talks at all its just a mundane ass grindfest ya don't know what or who you're playing against which makes it all the more boring as its kinda killed the fact you could get a feel of how you can play who you could talk into a team or out of fighting you or into having a nice little 1v1 duel

[low shuttle]

so if i que against people with randoms, i want to fight other randoms queing with randoms. not full sith lord teams already playing with each other 2000 times

[mental obsidian]

WHY IS THE UPDATE ERROR STILL AROUND????

[lucid swan]

looks at patch notes gets excited I'll finally be able to buy the frostwalker skin notices its only for the frost skele skin in-game and that it costs $10 premium currency

[runic turtle]

That would be nice but that would make queue times super long

[blissful hawk]

Are quests not account wide? Change class and had to restart …?

[dull surge]

Bring back pre lobbies dammit they made the game so much better and I didn't even realize it till they were gone!!!

[lucid swan]

And have people pre-inspect me to see what exact build and kit im using? no thank you

[low shuttle]

guys the party system is broken u will que against teams who play together

[runic turtle]

They’re gone for a good reason. Inspect was dumb. They’re also working on a social hub

[dull surge]

Hi sweat who can't handle going in full 20k kit and doesn't have the skill to keep his kit lmao

[mental obsidian]

WHY IS THE UPDATE ERROR STILL AROUND????

[minor bolt]

why do some fighters use the crystal sword?

[runic turtle]

Will fighter build actually does decent dmg with crystal sword if built right. But you might as well play warlock

[chilly patio]

Do you keep races across slots?

[solid dew]

will + magic power build. Very very fun when you dont want to do basic damage and take advantage of people not building for magic resistance

[dull surge]

They're gone because of you sweaty no skill gear dependant schmucks who can't handle a good fight inspect was nice it let you make plans on who to avoid who you could get a good fight against and who was and wasn't gonna be chill the game is less enjoyable overall without it as it completely removes the point or use for voip as no one has it on anymore which was a big selling point for quite a few players the fact we could talk before a match and shit talk before a match

[vapid arch]

not being able to inspect everyone is healthy for the game, idk why you think that's sweaty

[runic turtle]

Brother what

[minor bolt]

thanks @runic turtle and @solid dew , I didn't think about that

[manic gorge]

so it been a while since i played but all my stuffs gone and my characters are lvl 1 again why?

[runic turtle]

If you came in juiced you would basically have to fight the whole lobby and they would team most the time if they knew you had good gear. How is the juiced player sweaty in this scenario

[dull surge]

Congrats you've proven my point. You're scared of being teamed on when you run your big kits. I enjoyed being teamed I ran my big kits it made it more interesting enjoyable made me play different and smarter you just want easy fights because you depend on your gear to win your fights which is fucking boring

[runic turtle]

Cap 🧢

[dull surge]

i go into trio lobbies solo on norms cause its more fun

[lucid swan]

im flattered you think im good enough to go in with a 20k god kit

[vapid arch]

you call people sweats for not wanting people to have more knowledge than they should going into a game, and don't think you're sweaty by wanting that ability back so you can survive more often?

[dull surge]

Bro i only live when I don't go for pvp i died 9 times out of ten but I have fun fights this shit nowadays its just bland I don't get to interact with the other players I don't get to enjoy some pre game chaos its just right into the dungeon and don't know why but it kills the game for me makes it almost unplayable used to get excited when I see trolls pelt today got one and honestly felt nothing sold it and moved on

[vapid arch]

sounds like you're projecting the normalisation of the game for yourself onto others by calling them sweats for wanting changes that are healthy for the game

[dull surge]

its just boring now I didn't inspect usually either less they inspected me went in tested my weapons and talked only thing I made a note of was what classes I was against and maybe bully the warlocks

[runic turtle]

That’s nice but most ppl abused the inspect to do things I said previously like teaming

[dull surge]

bro it takes longer to get into matches and overall player count has dropped its not healthier this update may kill the game.

[vapid arch]

you know that inspect and pre lobby if anything was in favour of the sweats, right? people that want to spam pvp would know exactly what classes are in a game and what gear people have to play accordingly
it goes both ways, your ability to enjoy the occassional social interaction was a detriment to everyone else as the tools at hand were used to the strategic advantage of people that want to pvp

[solid dew]

imo its the downtime from not doing anything which SUCKS. At least in pre lobbies you could run around and hit dummies or pet otto

[woven nebula]

Is there somewhere that we can go to see player counts? People keep talking about how updates impact player counts, but I didn't know we could see that data.

[vapid arch]

playercount always drops approaching wipe, this is nothing new
game will sharply rise in numbers again after wipe

[runic turtle]

They’re working on adding a social hub

[dull surge]

Player count spikes towards end of wipes... So folks can run their gear into the ground before they lose it

[vapid arch]

i've been playing since last year, player count has always declined because people run all the gear they have then quit playing for the wipe
you're talking out your ass

[solid dew]

Will we be accessing that before games or is that separate like the gathering hub?

[woven nebula]

You think player counts in live games go up when the content is super stale and everyone's about to lose all the progress they worked for? That is wild. That is an F Tier hot take.

[plain stone]

DUNGEON RECOVERY SYSTEM JUST YEETED MY KIT.

[dull surge]

I've been playing since second playtest my guy.

[feral granite]

whats the stats for the mummy race?

[vapid arch]

good for you, you're still ignorant to how the game works after all this time though

[mild vault]

Got another clip for ya all!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1euokbk/druid_vs_duo_dark_and_darker/

[runic turtle]

Literally every game drops player count when a season is about to end and goes up when a new one drops

[dull surge]

Then tell me why we've consistently been losing about 200-300 players daily for the last month?

[vapid arch]

because the game had a massive influx of people due to f2p and the numbers are regulating to a standard amount overtime, as well as progressively approaching wipe

[runic turtle]

+1 vigor -1 agility

[frozen crag]

yo! is bardiche barbarian still viable after nerfs?

[dull surge]

With a massive spike of 1k around when this update dropped? and consistently losing players since said update when it was stable at 25k earlier

[runic turtle]

Yes

[vapid arch]

i'd say changes to matchmaking were far more prevalent for people not playing anymore as opposed to removing pre game lobby
me personally i only played one game today and haven't played properly since about 2 weeks ago just because im not enjoying the gameplay loop of pvp currently

[dull surge]

Its about how you play the weapon know its reach and all that remember if someone rushes you to swap to a one handed or closer ranged weapon or you'll be hitting like a wet noodle

[hoary roost]

what weapon should i instantly buy from the skelly npc (will prob give profit)

[dull surge]

The massive infux was 57,164 players it stabilized at 30k afterwards and was consistently at 27k even at non peak hours this update hit earlier this week and suddenly were losing players by the hundreds daily when last patch I saw a consistent increase in players in the last two weeks of wipe for last minute ap grinding

[plucky arrow]

Pregame lobbies were great because you didnt sit in finding match for minutes...

[vapid arch]

correlation doesn't equal causation
like i said changes to matchmaking would be more of an issue for people to stop playing as opposed to pre lobby, and again numbers have and will always drop approaching a wipe

[dull surge]

We are currently sitting at a measly 20k players I haven't seen numbers this low outside of alpha test 5 when we had to torrent the game to be able to play

[polar turtle]

what quests would i need to do to get base gear survival bow for bard

[vapid arch]

queues before with pre lobby still could take up to several minutes
@dull surge numbers have been lower in previous wipes, i think the lowest i saw was 5k
20k isn't measly by any stretch of the imagination, a playerbase of even 10k is more than enough to support a game

[dull surge]

You just need to clear a certain amount of quests overall so aim for easy to clear ones

[thorn nimbus]

then bring actual kits and dont be at a disadvantage

[warm tendon]

Day #? of complaining about the new Cyclops rockfall, you cannot see the shadows in the dark, if you take out your torch you do not see the shadows and even standing close to a shadow will get you hit. Please remove this mechanic and bring back the old mechanic. Thank you.

[thorn nimbus]

are you actually this dumb or pretending ? we are like 2 weeks from wipe no one is playing games like this when wipe is this close its the sole reason tarkov does pre wipe events

[dull surge]

You might be colorblind as I have no issue seeing the shadows when I have a torch on each door and am sitting in the middle fighting under the crystal

[warm tendon]

Even when under the crystal in the center, it is very hard to see and i need to be looking down.

[runic turtle]

How is 20k measly wtf? Lmao

[abstract spire]

from all classes the druid is only one to be able to summon anything ?

[warm tendon]

Warlock can summon a Hydra.

[thorn nimbus]

warlock, hydra

[dull surge]

Well yea how else would you see shadows if not looking down do you expect the attack to be as bad as it was when you had no chance at all to dodge before this change and would just have to pray or look up risking max damage from said rocks?

[plucky arrow]

btw did they fuck up audio?

[warm tendon]

Before you had a 100% chance to dodge it, I liked that much more. Just listening to the audio queue and then jump.

[dull surge]

Tarkovs dying so irrelevant to this I personally haven't seen the numbers dip under 30k even before this wipe in between wipes yea but before a wipe no.

[thorn nimbus]

then you are blind too and it has nothing to do with any dying its the natural thing when wipes aproach

[dull surge]

My guy you can check the dark and darker player counts since release lowest numbers before now was 27k

[graceful goblet]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/575528/resourcefulnes-buff-phyisicalmagical-buffs-and-debuffs-duration

What do you guys think of this suggestion

[plucky arrow]

Your just a throwaway troll i guess, cause the new cyclops is so far the easiest, i was geniuenly surprise to take it down 3 times without taking ANY damage from the cyclops

[thorn nimbus]

yes on steam lmao

[warm tendon]

Not a troll, GC demigod, over a 1000 Cyclops kills. I liked it better before, this new mechanic feels random to me and I have already practiced at it for many many hours.

[thorn nimbus]

also wtf are you looking at it was 23k peak today and its been this way for months now it has decreased by like 3k from june

[plucky arrow]

I didnt know about the cyclops change when i met it first and even while not expecting it, it was 0 trouble, i guess you need to work on adapting to the game and lessening acousticism

[graceful goblet]

bro since the update I can always kill the cyclops he became easy asf

[warm tendon]

I find him way harder now, before the rock fall lasted no longer then 5 seconds and took 0 damage. Now the rockfall takes like 20 seconds and I still get damage. I have been trying to adapt, have practiced the rockfall for over hours trying to find a mechanic to dodging other than looking at the floor. No luck so far.

[leaden carbon]

I may or may not be attempting to remake crypts 2 in minecraft

[thorn nimbus]

I refuse to look at the floor so I die to an attack thats possible to be dodged by looking at the floor

[warm tendon]

That would be super cool!

[leaden carbon]

I basically have to get a ton of screen shots of the game, cross reference them with the interactive map, and then make it in minecraft

[warm tendon]

As is said, I have been practicing, not standing on a shadow will still get you hit from the splash damage.

[thorn nimbus]

never had that happen to me

[solid dew]

tldr how does new rockfall work?

[swift grove]

what do you mean by lessening acousticism

[thorn nimbus]

shadows appear on the floor and if you arent in the shadow you dont take dmg

[solid dew]

Interesting. I always considered him a fat sponge anyways. I guess he's more interesting now

[plucky arrow]

It means to pay attention to your sorrounding while playing the game, like while playing in a trio you need to pay attention to a lot of things while fighting

[swift grove]

okay, today is my first time seeing that word and google wasn't showing any results. thanks for clearing it up

[modest yarrow]

Ghost king jump seems different for some reason. This last patch i’ve been hit by it 4 times.

[swift grove]

Every time I see someone do it on stream it looks like they're jumping too late, but they clear it anyway. Maybe you're jumping too early? *im a dirty druid main, I cheese the jump with chicken form, wish I could be more helpful

[wild scaffold]

fix friendly recovery system, it doesnt work half the time boy brings out my full kit just for it to completely be gone how you gunna implement such a shitty function that doesnt even work properly

[modest yarrow]

I don’t know. I haven’t changed my jump queue since i’ve learned it, but this last patch both my friend and myself have been getting smacked by him on times when we both thought we were absolutely clear. Maybe we’ll hear about it more in the next week

[grave jewel]

is wizard better now? havent played in like 4 months

[terse hull]

Unscathed Escapes is a very annoying quest ong, any tips

[thorn nimbus]

unchanged

[olive vapor]

Wizard has always been good

[thorn nimbus]

if its crypts literally just clear out a path to the nearest extraction and go back to ur spawn room and just afk there for 10 mins alternatively hide in some weird room no one bother to check

[olive vapor]

Yall think they are going to changed Druid any time soon? Class doesn’t seem to fit well

[bright crystal]

Does Smite trigger Faithfulness?

[thorn nimbus]

yes

[livid pilot]

the cheaters in this game are just wildly out of control

[terse hull]

i d ont think ive seen a single person i can confidently say is for sure cheating but go off king

[solid dew]

Teamers for sure. Cheaters ?

[livid pilot]

teaming is cheating. and that's cool. some people dont like playing high roller. i get it. the walling is nuts

[terse hull]

i play HR ??

and teaming is unfair but cheating typically is used for hacking/exploiting
what class do you play?

[plucky arrow]

There wouldnt be a problem with teaming, but so many people cried so much that the normal people rarely do it, so there are rarely honorable teams where they wait for 1v1s to finish. I blame the crybabies

[livid pilot]

fighter/barb/wiz in solos. all over 150 this season. if you dont see em you're not good enough to notice, no offense, or you're not actually in HR that much. i know for a FACTat least 2 of the big companies have fully functioning cheats that are undetectable by ironmace. aimbot and ESP

[terse hull]

so bc i dont see rampant cheating its a skill issue on my end?

thats pure cope

[solid dew]

I just want to clarify and say that "Pre Teaming" has been more rampant

[livid pilot]

"i d ont think ive seen a single person i can confidently say is for sure cheating but go off king" if you want to start off with this. be confident the person you're interacting with is going to have something to say about it. i'm good enough to see the cheating. i'm telling you it's rampant. i have facts. i have people ive watched stream the ESP hacks. maybe take in what someone else is saying or try to learn instead of starting off a conversation that's sure to turn hostile.if you wanna hop in the DMs i've got hard proof i can send you. i'm sure it's against ToS to even list the names of the sites here.

let alone the injectors used or programs

[undone rivet]

3 times in a row against the same duo with 500+ gear score, and me and my duo with under 200.. Really nice matchmaking

[solid dew]

BRUH I JUST RAN INTO SOME TEAMERS WTF

[plucky arrow]

there are cheaters, just like in every single online game. If its possible people will do it.
If you deny that there are cheater in this game you probably dont have much experience yet (Not necessarily with dark and darker)
There are a bunch of type of cheats based on what they do[Not limiting to dark and darker], it can even be as simple as having optifine from minecraft so you dont have black shadows, changes in textures and models, aimbot, wallhacks whatever

I dont know how often people see cheaters nowadays but i havent seen that many in the past month, given i didnt play as much either

[little helm]

Anyone else starting to feel like the game is becoming more about the "kit" that you rock vs anything else?

[solid dew]

...what ?

[terse hull]

i feel like you are just taking this game too seriously, i really dont think cheating is out of control, i have not seen a single person i feel confident saying they are using hacks, and i dont run into teamers that often either

and i dont think there are zero cheaters, i am certain they are out there, but to say it is out of control is a little hyperbolic and that was my point

[little helm]

People are building these kits and builds that are basically 1-2 shot. I am noticing it more and more now. Its pretty obvious

[terse hull]

its an extraction game about looting and buiulding kits with the loot, so the game is very kit focused, but skill can make up for some of the gear difference

[swift grove]

If you dont want to go against high geared enemies, stay under 124 GS in normals. Normal gear brackets are 0-24, 25-124, and 125+. In HR, its only 225+. The top normals bracket and HR will 100% have VERY geared players

[solid dew]

Get your PDR up ? Sounds like there building for strength or magic damage of some sort

[waxen karma]

anyone know how we can remove afk person from our party?

[swift grove]

remake the party

[terse hull]

pretty sure you can kick them from the player list menu in the lower right

oh nvm idk

[waxen karma]

in the discord

[hard raptor]

as a ranger do you fully have to draw your bow?

[pseudo zinc]

blcoking as a whole needs a serious overhaul ngl

[terse hull]

yes

[plucky arrow]

Not really an advice when there are people like me who get a ton of armor pen because of the pdr fighters XD
Just today i saw like 3 videos of people building oneshot builds focusing on penetration

[frank swan]

Gear opinion :

-1 good green/blue alongside white gear is nice for normal lobbies / <25
-unique, legendaries (maybe 1-2 epic when u're poor) are nice for HR

Until reals brackets are here, most of greens and blues are trash because you're using them just to get wrecked by juicers with full legendary kits. You need to be full white with 1 green/blue or full legendary. Change my mind.

[solid dew]

Does your build have any magic resistance?

[signal ibex]

Anyone possibly heard when wizard, or really any class, might get updated or new abilities? Or is that on hold until new classes are worked on??

[vapid arch]

wizard is getting changed with or after sorcerers release

[urban anchor]

Why is the bear druid still damaging me when I block the over head slam?

[ocean gale]

people gonna be real mad about sorcerer, I think the plan is to make the wizard more support based right?

[vapid arch]

yes

[plucky arrow]

My build for hr got like over 22% pdr and mdr, the low cost version got like barely any reductions and my experience shows that if something were to 2 shot you because you got like 110 hp, it doesnt matter that much how much pdr you got. Take uncle Piccolo's advice and dodge. I've seen so many ways to dodge attacks, there was a streamer who ran up against his main weapon and basically turned his opponent into a mob because of the dodges. (i know it doesnt always work)

[solid dew]

Agreed on that front. Low health characters just HAVE to out manuever their opponents

[hardy bane]

anyone feels like the spawn right now are pretty shitty? feels like there's 9/10 times someone next to my module at the start, pretty lame

[solid dew]

Swear half the map spawns on me when im mining lmao

[royal summit]

is there anti team gear steal in random matchmaking?

[plucky arrow]

For sure, i've made a full hp and pdr barb with decent speed just to mess around. The result was that i beat a bardiche barbarian with a hatchet, simply by half assed manouvers to get closer, he didnt know i had like 280 hp and bloodexchange while he had like 160 hp and no pdr. Cause what can you do when your opponent doesnt die after you hit them 4 times and you're low af

@royal summit I think if you take out a teammates items, the goblin will give it back to them

[swift grove]

yes

[meager kite]

what are the quest rewards btw?

[misty axle]

what is the skin locking behind yeti teeth? seems it wont drop the whole season anyway

[terse hull]

Tavern Master- Mummy Skin
Goblin merchant- Gobbo Dance
Collector- bone/skull Campfire skin

assuming you meant seasonal cosmetic rewards

[misty axle]

dang it skull campfire this is the skip i want

[feral ember]

For the kill bosses quest, do you need ot get the last hit for it to count?

[misty axle]

always unless duo or trio, it wont count in duo or trio if you die during boss fight

[terse hull]

you or someone on your team has to get last hit
if for example the skeleton archers kill lich, you probably arent gonna get the kill for your quest as far as i am aware

[signal ibex]

but like, are they going to take spells away from wizard that it has now? lol

[misty axle]

any new qna here talking about sorcerer?

[mortal lichen]

man they need to add ruins back these maps are getting old

[frigid kettle]

anyone experincing repeated crashing?

[exotic arrow]

In anyone else’s experience, do gold coins, bagged or not, give ap?

[feral ember]

ic, also are bone drop rates just fucked? i swear i never see them

[terse hull]

i got them all fairly quickly in crypts, but its RNG so sometimes you just get unlucky

i struggled for like 2-3 weeks on centaur hoof killing like 6-8 each day i played just grinding that quest, just super unlucky sometimes

[swift grove]

coins give 1 AP per but only as loose change. they turn handled if you put them into a coin purse making them worth 0 AP

[feral ember]

unlucky, ive done 2 inferno runs cleared like 10 modules saw 0 bones
i thought maybe red skellies had higher drop rate guess not

[exotic arrow]

Thank you!

[hushed tangle]

Getting 3 tapped by a bard with a rapier on barbarian is so disheartening after barb got nerfed AGAIN

[swift grove]

no worries

[atomic flame]

aint no way bro you had to be at like half hp already you lying

[hushed tangle]

was at 85% hp and had robust. headshot multiplier + shriek goes hard

[solid shoal]

quick question, do highroller rewards count for each categorry seperatly, i mean if i get points in solo duo and trio cue on one character, will i get 3x the same reward?

[timber sand]

Guys whats the best barb weapon atm?

[timber sand]

Yeah its separetly

[swift grove]

You can only claim each ranked reward once per character. So you can't grind wanderer on one character in solo, duo, and trio and expect 3 gold bags. You'll only get one

[atomic flame]

@burnt pivot why would you kill stanky you actual dweeb

[storm shard]

Can we make ladders work properly please

[lilac edge]

is buying frost skeleton worth it

[atomic flame]

its a skin that gives -3 movespeed and 1 damage you decide if you want to spend the 10 schmeckles

[lilac edge]

is that bad if i play platelock / longsword fighter tho

[rigid patio]

Make sure you look up when you climb I had this problem lol

[torn fulcrum]

felling axe is super fun, but the recovery time when you miss is pretty awful compared to the other weapons. just be sure to pick up achilles strike if you run it. also, i think the bardiche, despite getting a nerf recently is still good w/ axe spec? maybe someone else can confirm on that though

[storm shard]

was looking at the cealing and it still happened

[terse hull]

unscathed escaope might be my least favorite quest so far, at least on other quests even if i dont roll the rng i need, i still can just play a raid out fairly normally

this quest i just sit in the dark for 10 minutes and try to extract and if i get hit a player, mob or trap i get to try again

[rigid patio]

yea I've not had that problem yet but i did get attacked out of stealth by a spider during a fight today feels bad lol

[burnt pivot]

@atomic flame huh?

[atomic flame]

so you have the same exact name as someone in a youtubers video, what a coincidence, unless of course you are the rogue '

[burnt pivot]

link me i have no idea what your talking about, i havent even played in a week almost

[atomic flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5EsLlOPs8 at 13 minutes, is that you? if so shame on you bro

[atomic flame]

fun police over here smh

[burnt pivot]

@atomic flame oh yes that was me lmfao.. if you saw my perspect rite before that there was fighting close and then i saw what i though was him looting / dropping stuff but then quickly realized what i had done lmfaoooo

[atomic flame]

shame on you sir 😔

[hushed tangle]

just found another bard to show this to you at the end of a sub 25 lobby so you can see i'll dm it to you

[burnt pivot]

@atomic flame there is no shame nor honor in the dungeons riperino shop keep

[vapid arch]

show me too

[frosty hill]

does Staff Mastery effect the staff's melee damage or spell damage? Or is it both?

[burnt pivot]

melee

[hushed tangle]

for anyone that doesn't believe it, a bard can 2 shot a barbarian from max hp with rapier even in sub 25 lobbies... WITHOUT shriek. Tired of people crying about barb op.

[long lichen]

Yeah and I've tried pretty much everything to fix it atp and nothing works

[frosty hill]

thank you

[hushed tangle]

same

[floral lynx]

can anyone help me kill warlord on OCE

[long lichen]

how tf can a bard do that much damage with a rapier

[floral lynx]

anyone completed this fucking quest ? MYSTICAL GEMS

[fervent anvil]

Imagine not completing it

[floral lynx]

still no gem drop sadly

[hollow star]

Do we know when the current season ends?

Thanks

[floral lynx]

it says timer on leaderboard

[timber sand]

Any1 know whats the best weapon for barb?

[floral lynx]

bardiche is pretty fuckign good

[timber sand]

Im having problems with Felling axe due to range

[floral lynx]

felling is pretty limited with combo and punishing if u miss alot but bardiche is pretty meta

if ur rocking agility build bardiche is good for that swing speed

[bright crystal]

Which classes are absolute shit in normal 0-24 and not to be played?

[floral lynx]

sub 25 all mages are shit

u get 1 shot by barbarian or longsword fighter

[fervent anvil]

Rogue. @floral lynx wiz is good in sub 25s so idk what you are on

[plucky peak]

timmy wizards are bad in sub 25s

[fervent anvil]

I play wiz in sub 25s? I run around as a naked green lizard just bonking people and blowing them up

[hushed tangle]

i'll dm you the clip. barb just isn't as tanky as people think. an extra 20hp often makes 0 difference

[long lichen]

I know barb isnt as tanky as people think, I decided to try it and got pissed and quit because I kept dying to rangers
not an extra 20hp though I got 160hp under 25

[timber sand]

And Bardiche is too slow for me

[wintry violet]

is there a fix for the tavern error yet

[astral meteor]

Do bosses regenerate health outside of combat ?

[surreal vale]

i there anything i need the dog collar for or is it safe to sell? i dont do inferno often

[surreal vale]

i believe so if it de aggros it full resets

[oblique steeple]

what's the fastest way to deal with wendigo's as barb, it takes 900 years, any stabby weapons you can equip on barb? on fighter i kill it in 15 seconds

[brazen finch]

Is ray of darkness strong with darkness shards?

[rustic egret]

I just dance circling it to my right and I crouch jump his left-hand attack while getting in 1-2 felling axe shots per rotation

[ancient summit]

bardiche / halberd stab att on the heart

[swift grove]

2nd attack on halberd, bardiche, or 3rd on zwei is a stab. or you can learn the left-right shuffle crouching in front of the wendy and hit it with felling/horsemans. the reach weps are prob safer tho

[high fern]

WTF is abnormal behavior detected. i get kicked and lose my gear real fuckin ciikl

[sweet umbra]

What is a LOD system?

They need to remove the improved movement speed while blocking from fighter and give it to barbarian. Barbarian has always had higher movement with a shield over a fighter. It’s historic and lore! Idk why fighter has to have everything when it already has full plate.

[final sky]

how do you deal with the rock slam phase of the cyclops

[median flint]

barbarian is garbage its a dead class. only ever had one build and continues to be one noted....

[native hedge]

My 100% armor pen shouting lizard would like to disagree

[proper tundra]

is anyone else gamba quest bugged?

[median flint]

yeah and are you using axes? also why are you lizard when you scale with vigor

[stark flint]

the game is thrash. Door locking simulator, benny hill and 2 tapping by rangers.

[native hedge]

Yup
Double axe is my go to usually tho I might try bardiche with the new changes

And lizard because I like catching up to ppl (I only swap out lizard if I have copper straw hat)

[limber verge]

then dont play it. It really is that simple little guy.

[stone haven]

Axes do not scale with vigor. Who misinformed you?

[turbid pine]

lycan is better than lizard for barb because of his perk directly scaling off vigor

[wise oyster]

genuine ask here, what beats wizards? feels impossible to play against a squad with 2 of them

[median flint]

right exactly my point been axes since launch! nothing has changed minus the bardiche which was a cool micro meta for a bit. But in all honesty the class has very minimally changed over the time its been developed. @stone haven youre trolling right Robust!!!! he said lizard... why would you trade health and sitdown heal speed over 20 armor...

[stone haven]

Ah yes the main thing that makes barbarian good, sit down heal speed.

[swift grove]

cutthroat rogues, rangers, or a landmine druid

[stark flint]

Yup. You're absolutely right. I've been taking breaks from the game every wipe. Time to let it go.

[native hedge]

Because I don't care much about health
I have enough to tank 1 hit, while the enemy won't have enough to tank 2 (or even 1 on squishy classes)

[limber verge]

Yeah adults usually have the self control to not subject themselves needlessly to things they dont like.

[median flint]

you're a troll dude stop being weird man. Learn how to communicate without passive aggressive sarcasm. You can communicate normally! or your young and havent developed enough to understand and i wont hold it against yopu

[median flint]

so you just like the skin! Ok, i get that!

[stark flint]

Ok then, big guy. Making some assumptions here. Will let you keep them. Have fun with your adult controlled life!

[stone haven]

I just dislike people that act like they know what’s good when they don’t.

[hushed tangle]

can we get frannies from the woodsman regularly for fks sake? we have ONE GARBAGE ranged option on barb and it CYCLES????

[median flint]

bro its mathematically better to use Vigor stats with Robust! Idk what you're arguing about here. Dude likes the skin its all good. The subject was that barbarian has been one noted from the start. Would like to see some other avenues over just two handed axes. Youre derailing the point with things that dont matter!

[native hedge]

That too, but it's mostly due to the movement speed I save by not having a helmet while still having at least a bit of the armor a helmet would give

[forest relic]

you think robust isn’t good??

[median flint]

i guess ill clarify. Lycan has the same heashot stats and instead of armor rating which is less than the health scaling you get from vigor and rubust i was curious as to why you chose lizard; i find lizard to be better for fighter where you can scale armor

[limber verge]

"I dont like this game, it's bad. I keep coming back to it every wipe. I dont have control of my life or my decisions."

[stark flint]

That's the spirit, adult man. 😗

[native hedge]

Oh you were comparing lizard to lycan not lizard to no skin xd
I run reckless so having that 20 armor can really make a difference in case I get hit before I can land my hit
But I get why lycan would be a good option too

[undone belfry]

druid is so broken, as is wizard get it together iron mace

[sour sigil]

I agree with the wizard but I still think druid is one of the most underpowered classes yet

[limber verge]

it's the newest class, still being developed and it will more properly fill it's niche in the future.

[dark hinge]

druids can literally decide if they want to fight or not, thats alot of overpower

[hushed tangle]

is barb lowest dps in the game?

[median flint]

ohhh i see! that makes sense. I should of clarified from the start with lycan vs. lizard. Was my bad! But i just learned something! It also makes sense with Rage too! hmm I dont run rage but makes me think it might be less an issue. I normally stack +10% physical reduction when i run rage but the lizard might pull its weight more Edit: yeah 13.1 vs. 7% now im not in the negative! Epic.

[final sky]

how do you deal with the rock slam phase of the cyclops

[native hedge]

Yeah when I wasn't paying attention I had problems with negative pdr
I think the worst I've had so far was like +80% incoming physical damage with reckless and let me tell you getting hit by anything at that point HURTS

[median flint]

yeah i stopped running rage and reckless attack because of that! I switched to savage with rage or blood exchange and you stack vigor with lycan. And go chugger with magical healing gear and drop trolls blood with duel weild and a heal pot and you can tank 4 people easily.

[native hedge]

Ye the skinny pete special is op af if you have enough hp xd

[hushed tangle]

nah they're just going to nerf barb again because people are too trash at melee combat

[tardy pelican]

you deal enough damage to the cyclops while also crouch jumping the rockfall damage

[stone haven]

I think Lycan and lizard are more or less the same.

[lean nebula]

holy shit can they bring back map select

[native hedge]

Imo depends on the build
Like if you're in full gear vigor for the max HP will give u more EHP. If you're running half naked speedy gonzales the lizard can make up 25% of your total armor rating which helps out a ton

[terse hull]

unscathed escapes is going to drive me to madness its confirmed

2/3 now but omg its so annoying

[gloomy valve]

soooo can someone quickly let me know if there are still multiple gear brackets or if it's just 25 and lower and then everyone else in the other pool but TRYING to keep values similar?

[terse hull]

0-24, 25-124, 125+

[swift grove]

Normal: 0-24, 25-124, 125+
HR: 225+

[worn salmon]

is 125 under a thing still???

[gloomy valve]

Thanks folks! Appreciate it, good luck out there 🙂

[native hedge]

Oh wait they still kept the brackets on top of the new matchmaking??
I thought it'd just try and match ppl to ur gearscore if you're 25+

[swift grove]

#📢announcements message

[manic haven]

is a planted pavise breaking to one hit from lich projectile fixed?

[hallow cypress]

they tried it but cos it prios match numbers over gearscore it was filling lobbies by expanding gearscore range

[high sapphire]

just got double spawnrushed by two min maxed -125 gs players. im just tryna fuck around with shield bash lol. GC is crazy rn

[spare elbow]

They got rid of 25-124 for about a day before adding it back

[civic ivy]

.

[hushed tangle]

game is bad so people are just bored in spawn rush. genuinely can't figure out why anyone (myself included) plays this dumpsterfire piece of garbage

[high sapphire]

the spawn rushing in gc is really bad rn. it how i die half my runs in there and im not a new player lol

[median flint]

honestly i should break based on its impact score! So you can stack the ability with it and have more hits like 8 or what ever it scales to

[hushed tangle]

its just a symptom of a dozen other problems including a bad gameplay loop

[tawny glacier]

Can confirm warlock squire build is exceptional for spawn rushing, actually the only way to enjoy this game now

[manic haven]

does it currently work that way?
seems weird that a giant pavise on the ground would only take 8 hits, but a buckler held by someone could take an unlimited number

[brazen finch]

What does demon form skill do

[final sky]

is there a way to predict when the cyclops s about to do a stomp because the wind up is miniscule

[runic turtle]

I get out of spawn as quick as I can in GC helps avoid spawn rush cause they have the spots memorized

[chrome sun]

Guys guys, we all know what the next major update should include, no nerf or buff is as important as this:

Make the game true hardcore and make us lose our characters entirely when they die.

[high sapphire]

nah its a few spots were they show up instantly every time i spawn there. i kill a mob or 2 and im getting w keyed

[spare elbow]

Yea some spawn closer than others

[runic turtle]

Yea I straight up run out the spawn room without killing anything

[high sapphire]

its wild how close because i get spawn rushed every time i spawn in them spots

[spare elbow]

Yea given how close some spawns are, it shouldnt be so easy to just walk past mobs to spawn rush imo.

[twilit walrus]

I am currently getting put into games with only one or 2 people, been this way since matchmaking patch, anyone else experiencing this?

[chrome sun]

whats gc oh prolly goblin cave yeah I feel it.

Onetime I spawned, opened a door to my right, and was immediately rushed by a team of 3 wizards

[runic turtle]

GC is the map you play if you want straight pvp. Most pvpers play that map more than any other map

[solid dew]

I need a concensus on this. Wizard vs Barb who should generally be winning

[chrome sun]

I only go there cuz I need goblin ears lmao

[dull sparrow]

does anyone know how the reward tokens work my friend who was level 4 had 20 of them i have 9 as level 90

[runic turtle]

Skill matchup tbh. Speaking for solos only, barb should be winning if they have magic resist and iron will. But it’s still a skill matchup since barb ranged dmg is limited and wizards biggest counter is ranged dmg (bow/crossbow)

[chrome sun]

dreamfire is a weak ass spell that needs a buff on druid, doesnt slow nothin down and 15 damage aint shit

[vapid arch]

given everything else they can do, no

[chrome sun]

Then just remove dreamfire cuz its a pointless spell lmfao, not good for combat neither player nor npc

[vapid arch]

"my ranged damage option isn't broken so remove my range damage"

[chrome sun]

"isnt broken"? Bro it takes all 5 charges just to kill one mummy.
and you gotta meditate to get em back.

Its cast time is slow af

[vapid arch]

brother's using deamfire on pve, opinion disregarded

[violet swift]

High risk high reward. Use a melee weapon. You’re in danger more, but you do more damage. You use range spells? Low risk, so low damage output

[chrome sun]

Actually no, like I said useless spell. Why would I use it when I have entangling vines and wall of thorns

[swift grove]

dreamfire is best used in pvp or to single pull monsters. or if you need healing, you can spend 1 nature's touch 1 dreamfire and hit a stack of monsters for a good bit of health. also works to take hard aggro on monsters so they dont hit your tree

[chrome sun]

Also can anyone enlighten me, whats the left set of spells thats red and says "Spell memory required" for druid

[rich tree]

its literally impossible to fight now. the lag is unbearable. nonstop rubberbanding and lag its awful

[high sapphire]

remove rat jump

[chrome sun]

dunno what rat jump is. I figured out going through doors as rat tho thats fun, but I always time it wrong while I'm in a panic on the run

[high sapphire]

yeah door jump with rat need to be GONEEEE

[chrome sun]

Should be implemented into the game, but properly. Going through doors as rat to scout out rooms should be a thing. Seems like it isnt hard at all to spot someone as rat either cuz I get caught everytime

[inner sierra]

dreamfire heals ALL your team mates that are effected by natures touch as well

[chrome sun]

Oh W I see

[high sapphire]

nah bro infinite door jump in solos is the fucking worst. free reset after free rest no matter how low u get them they door jump a few times and heal. while you have to open all the doors and potentially clear mobs too

[inner sierra]

anyone spamming rat door jumping is probably dying 9/10 to jank man

[chrome sun]

Thats why I said it should be implemented where maybe theres an interaction time that doesnt let you just "hop through it", but you can squeeze through without opening it and making a bunch of noise

Otherwise whats supposed to be the point of rat besides it can squeeze into small spaces. Tryna flee as it just gets you blasted by a fireball.

Chicken form does just fine for dodging attacks

[inner sierra]

rat lets you run under the legs

[chrome sun]

Crazy, can you go up their pants and bite them? No just gonna get fireball'd cuz they know you onetap

[inner sierra]

going rat is the wrong play almost every match up but especially vs a wizard thats not even a consideration

[chrome sun]

Other players can use explosive bottles and oil lanterns

[high sapphire]

ur making no sense bro. if they can just phase through a door thats even worse

[inner sierra]

u want to know something rage enducing is when you get hit by a TORCH from half a module away through mobs and on a bridge with tons of terrain around you. but noooooo they land a perfect shot on a rat they cant see ;]

[amber cipher]

🇳 🇪 🇷 🇫 🇼 🇮 🇿 🇦 🇷 🇩 🇸

[chrome sun]

Same interaction time as opening the door, except it doesnt open it and make a bunch of noise. Not everyone goes KOS in this game. Stealth is still an option

[arctic latch]

🇳 🇪 🇷 🇫 🇼 🇮 🇿 🇦 🇷 🇩 🇸

[high sapphire]

ok if the rat has to stand still to get through a door thats fine with me

[inner sierra]

CAN

but they dont (usually)

[arctic latch]

2 TAP WIZARD! COME ON IM FIX UR GAME BRO

[chrome sun]

also whats with the enemy AI, games been out for how long now and has such a simple AI for the NPC's. I see them die to traps all the time like wut, bro you LIVE here how did you die to your own homes traps.

Solution they have instead is just add flying enemies over the traps.

also in terms of game lore what are the dungeons? Who handles sending players in? Why do they collapse every 10 minutes

[nimble hinge]

anyone have rough timers (or exact if they exist) for stuff like crypts blue exits appearing/gates opening

[chrome sun]

5 minutes some open, 2 minutes others open. I think its random between that amount of time. Prolly to keep people from tryna camp exits

[inner sierra]

the merchants tell you lore

[hushed tangle]

can anyone list anything good about this game? no idea why i play this trash

[inner sierra]

the jingle jangle noise the boxes make when you open them

[frozen robin]

Idk man wizard kinda weak rn.

[vagrant frost]

do you lose AP if you die even if you get more AP than entrance fee? Is escaping necessary to get the AP?

[swift grove]

yes

[chrome sun]

The experiences can be unique.

One time me and my friend were tryna extract and didnt want the smoke, and when we ran into another squad we were running while a warlock was shooting at us through the wall, we thought we got away but while we were about to go into another room they put a hydra in front of us like something out of scooby doo.

Onetime while I was playing solo I was looting some areas someone else already looted, didnt hear no one so figured they must've been on their way, I opened a door, dark, didnt go in all the way but looked right looked left and there was a rogue right in front of me getting ready to stab me. Immediately changed into a rat went through some bars and got away. He scared the shit out of me

[amber cipher]

🇳 🇪 🇷 🇫 🇼 🇮 🇿 🇦 🇷 🇩 🇸

[fervent anvil]

no

[arctic latch]

🇳 🇪 🇷 🇫 🇼 🇮 🇿 🇦 🇷 🇩 🇸

[solid spoke]

Do i have to end as pathfinder for the rewards? or is just hitting it enough.

[vapid arch]

the idea and implementation is wholly unique to the point that dungeons and dragons can be experienced in a completely new albeit slightly different way and that other companies created cheap knockoffs to leech off the success and innovation of ironmace

[solid spoke]

Its DnD Tarkov.

[vapid arch]

yes

[solid spoke]

I wouldnt say Extraction looter is wholly unique, but turning it into a Medieval fantasy in the vein of DnD. I dont even like tarkov or play shooters, but this game got me hooked.

[hushed tangle]

crazy that 90% of the people who come to this game come to it for dungeon diving and hate it

[chrome sun]

Its not unique, but its fun

[vapid arch]

fantasy elements in the extraction looter genre is wholly unique

[wide walrus]

how the hell can u hit anyone with felling axe when they duck and weave now im out of kits so easy to dodge!!!!

[solid spoke]

@wide walrus oh dude I AM WITH YOU. i see barbs use the felling axe most, swings faster ,makes sense. I fucking hate its range

[velvet kelp]

Hey guys I got into an argument in a youtube comment section (never a good idea). The video was a 'I'm stacking armor pen!' video, and in the video the content creator got to almost 50% armor pen. But they also put a bunch of +true damage on the gear. . I commented why would they build true damage in a build that is all about pen, since the true damage doesnt benefit from it at all, and +Additional damage actually scales, is cheaper, and has higher max values. Bunch of people came in the comments saying I was wrong, but I don't really understand how. If I had a league of legends champ that did mostly true damage, why would I build armor pen on them? how is this different? Can any veterans of the game clear this up for me?

[hallow cypress]

im no expert so take this comment with a grain of salt but i would guess the logic is true damage does its true damage thing then the armor pen is used to mitigate armor on the non true damage portion

[undone belfry]

does the base armor pen on a off hand weapon stack to the main hand when using slayer?

[frozen robin]

yeah pretty sure you just gain the stats of your held weapons

[hallow cypress]

it has faster swing, the range is annoying but w key at enemy swining it works and its the only barb two hander that didnt have damage reduced in last patch

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp So since you mentioned league ill use it as an example. So consider the true damage a flat number stat on an ability. Say Old Elise Q (it used to do hp% true dmg small amounts) She always priotized full pen regardless because that true dmg was a flat number therefore the pen was for the Non-true dmg being done to hit higher numbers. the amount of Additional dmg you get wont compete with true, even with pen, absent of full 100 Pen, you wont get it to do as much dmg as the same amount of pts of true dmg.

[frozen robin]

felling axe has the con that if you miss your first hit then you are probably dead.

[hallow cypress]

yes, any stats on both weapons are active at the time you have weapon drawn so stats would be applied to use of either weapon

[swift grove]

Add and True dmg both increase the damage dealt by one. The difference between the two is where they apply in the damage formula. Add damage gets applied before location based damage multipliers, so it can ACTUALLY be .5 for an arm/leg shot or 1.5 dmg for a headshot BEFORE enemy damage reduction. True damage applies dead last in the damage formula, so it is always 1 extra damage. (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Damage )

[hushed tangle]

it's also the easiest weapon in the game to dodge. you won't hit anyone that is even half decent with it. kind of true for barb in general. the class is garbage and only good for killing bad players...

[velvet kelp]

I'm really trying to wrap my head around your comment, because if the true damage is the main source of damage (in the Elise example), then you would want to max CDR, not pen. So in DaD terms, you would want to stack CDR/action speed with true damage right? Why would this content creator even care about stacking pen at all if true damage is going to be superior anyway?

[solid spoke]

@hushed tangle i wouldnt say garbage but yeah having no ranged options in a Ranged/Move Speed Meta, makes life alot harder.

[chrome sun]

any info on when the next wipe is?

[hushed tangle]

and bad weapon attack patterns. the game in general also has terrible melee mechanics which makes the ranged meta feel even worse

[solid spoke]

end of month, in-game go to leaderboard, top left has countdown @chrome sun

[velvet kelp]

Thanks man, I did read that wiki page but you didn't really answer my question haha

[chrome sun]

thanks!

[swift grove]

If that didnt answer your question, nothing will. gl

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp I mean True-damage daggers are fucking deadly as fuck so yes action speed +true dmg is a build.

[chrome fog]

ur right bro, i saw the same vid and i immediately was questioning the true dmg but i know the guy just pvps and isnt a numbers guy so i shrugged it off, his money not mine. the only argument is that u probably would get more dmg overall out of the true just bc true applies 100% of the time, additional only wins if the pen shot skill is up

[high sapphire]

omg pickpocket is so back with DJ. i love fucking with timmies lmao

[velvet kelp]

It basically said, 'yeah, armor pen doesn't affect the true damage. it just scales the non-true damage part of it'. so was i correct that it makes no sense to try to break the bank stacking armor pen AND true damage since they have no interaction with each other?

[cursive cape]

Guys how do you unlock the squire to carry a gray spear

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp no, if you are just maximizing damage then you want true it does more in the end. You WILL do less dmg with additional dmg

[chrome fog]

he was ranger surv bow

[subtle heart]

Depends on the class, but you generally unlock more base gear loot as you finish quests for merchants

[swift grove]

increase your affinity with the weaponsmith via questing to unlock more/higher quality weapons from the squire

[cursive cape]

Ahh okay thank you 🙂

[velvet kelp]

I don't think that's true when you factor in headshots.

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp Statisically speaking unless you only hit headshots. true comes out ontop over at the end of a run

[swift grove]

block the troll bruh

[velvet kelp]

It just... going back to league, it's like Camille building an armor pen item when she has a massive true damage ability up every couple of seconds... she would get flamed in a league game haha

[chrome fog]

no one goes for headshots in this game when they use a surv bow (which is bad, itll change over time as ppl get better) so thats why everyone wants true dmg 9.9/10 times

[solid spoke]

@chrome fog havent seen the vid but he mentioned wouldnt action speed/cdr be better then. i was like well yeah truedmg +action speed is a very good nad Expensive build.

[velvet kelp]

lmao wtf is your problem, i'm coming in here with a genuine question and a reasonable argument and im prepared to be wrong. go get some fresh air maybe?

[gray remnant]

I feel like ima get alot of negativity cause its barb but like
what race should i gravitate towards for barb?
I was thinking frost skeleton or lycan for hp/dmg

[chrome fog]

are u HR or sub 125/sub24 norms? that matters

[solid spoke]

@gray remnant flavor mostly but i honestly say after the update lycan, +4 vigor is the most rewarding thing youll get out of there as a barb

[amber cipher]

🇳 🇪 🇷 🇫 🇼 🇮 🇿 🇦 🇷 🇩 🇸

[gray remnant]

i haven't a clue as to what ANY of that means. i consider myself relatively new to the game :<

[chrome fog]

well theres gear score brackets, so if youre playing in the lower brackets then its lycan or lizard bc u cant wear a helmet, keeping your gearscore lower

otherwise do whatever

[gray remnant]

ah, okay
Thank you guys

[velvet kelp]

It wasn't a surv bow build. it was a one-shot barb build. something i've also realised in researching this is that pen is MULTIPLICATIVE, not additive, so 20% pen into 20%DR doesnt make it zero, it makes IT 16%

So in conclusion i think it makes zero sense to build armor pen on a fast build like surv bow or daggers, since you need +true to do good damage anyway. If you wanted to make a bonk build where you 1-2 shot them with well-placed headshots, then +additional is superior. that fair?

or +weapon damage, since that actually scales with your power bonus too. I think people will start getting better at the behind the scenes math stuff as they get better at the game

[hollow sparrow]

so just came back after a long break and was solo in the ice cavern i think (new map from when i played) I died from the blizzard.... what even is that? i did not see a circle or anything is that some new mechanic or is it just the same as the regular just reskinned an my health was lower than i thought?

[vapid oyster]

leave before time runs out

[swift grove]

circles are gone. every map has a way to kill you if you don't leave in time. Ice Cavern is the blizzard. You start to take damage around 1:00 remaining and if you don't leave by ~00:10 you will quickly freeze to death

[hollow sparrow]

leave where? everone else in the lobby was still alive and i was spectating them... i did not see any portals

[swift grove]

extraction points are marked on the map now, but this can help you get familiar with there they are: https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-N

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp Ok so i wasnt saying Pen+Speed was good i was saying True Dmg +speed was good. Please read correctly before shooting a short essay at me. man said In conclusion and everything

[vapid oyster]

exit stairs, elevator in the north, two boats spawn periodically

[hollow sparrow]

oh ok, so that map has fixed exits... there should be a tooltip for ppl who dont know that

[velvet kelp]

wasn't shooting an essay at you man, I'm just trying to figure out a game mechanic. fucksake you and @swift grove are so hostile to newer players

[swift grove]

every map has fixed exits

[flint sandal]

do big and lil luck potion effects stack if you drink both in the same run?

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp Ive been trying to explain but youre either misreading or not understanding. Im just some other player trying to be helpful dude, at a point idc if you get it or not anymore.

[velvet kelp]

and i didn't say that you said pen+speed was good? lol

[swift grove]

troll bruh. tried tellin ya

[hollow sparrow]

everyone else was in the game still alive and they didnt leave so ill just go in no gear to figure out how it works

[finite heath]

Cleric Spells keep miscasting and exhausting the spell, pretty sure its a bug

[velvet kelp]

I'm understanding perfectly, but in a normal conversation, people ask follow up questions

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp Its just the math. Additional dmg can Scale down. True Dmg cant. Statisically speaking true dmg wins every time. Unless youre a headshot god.

[velvet kelp]

well i said multiple times i was specifically talking about a headshot bonk build, so you are the one not reading my words correctly. i understand that true damage is good lol. I just didn't think it made sense to also build pen in a build that relies on true damage

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp additional is the cheap hooker, True dmg is the Escort.

[swift grove]

If you died at 00:55 from blizzard and saw players still, know that they were ALSO soon to die if they didn't extract. The blizzard deals damage after 1 minute remaining, and will auto-kill players with low will at 00:10. On Goblin cave and forgotten castle, a similar mechanic exists (but without the slow). Its called Cave-In on GC and Death Beetles on crypts. You don't auto-die at 00:10 on these maps

You may also have been spectating players awaiting entry to the ice abyss, which is the 2nd floor of the ice cavern

[solid spoke]

@velvet kelp just hammer it in your head unless ironmace changes the math True Damage > Additional Every Time

[velvet kelp]

funnily enough, i just went back to youtube to look at some of the builds, and Lt.Sama has a new armor pen video out

[solid spoke]

ok maybe not everytime im just annoyed now. Ironmace give us crit chance so additional can shine!

[velvet kelp]

It's so weird that you and the pathetic ape get annoyed at someone asking follow up questions in a 'game DISCUSSION' thread.

[swift grove]

There sure are alot of redditors coming to the discord lately

[velvet kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55KpQUyGwp8

[swift grove]

luck potion will overwrite your previous luck potion. the only benefit to bringing in multiples is to reroll for better luck bonuses

[solid spoke]

I dont believe in luck. thats not a saying i mean the stat, swear that shit doesnt work

[velvet kelp]

Well you are just straight up confidently incorrect, you came in with useless information (true damage doesnt get reduced on non headshots???? OMG!) and on top of that you were a jerk about it. you're the one with the redditor vibes mate. see this video and that you are just wrong lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55KpQUyGwp8

[brisk urchin]

where can i find copper ore in goblincaves?

[swift grove]

"goblin mine" in the northeast. You can check spawns of things on the interactive maps: https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/GoblinCave-5x5-01-N

edit no copper mid anymore, my mistake

[stone haven]

It works but in reality it does very little for you and is mostly a waste of gold

[wet osprey]

unless I am absurdly unlucky there is no copper mid

[lament oak]

can u get golden key from skelly champion ?

[swift grove]

Yes

[wet osprey]

ive been told it can drop in norms is that true?

[brisk urchin]

thank u sir

[lament oak]

i just got one in a nors idk what to do with it

[swift grove]

Yes. (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Skeleton_Champion Common Variant; Skeletonchampion_Misc drop table)

[wet osprey]

sell it on the market or trading post is what i'd do if you're a newer player

[swift grove]

Yep. Or if you're feeling brave you can kit up in HR and try to use the key. You might get an artifact, or a useless epic ceremonial staff.

[wet osprey]

I've been told its just not worth it to open the room so I never have and probably wont unless it changes. seems to just be used as currency tbh

[swift grove]

Mostly just used as a currency. Its not a complete throw to run a golden key late in the season though, as prices will continue to fall until the final days of wipe

[nimble hinge]

does the lich spread/stack circle do more damage if theres more players in the room? me and a friend got one shot from 100% from the stack mechanic (two players were in the room apart from us and left )

[chrome sun]

We ARE in the final days of the wipe. Just 12 more

[swift grove]

Purple circle you'll want as many players in the AOE as possible, you split the damage amongst you.
Blue circle you want everyone to get away from the circle. It'll multiply damage taken

If you got one shot by a purple circle, you didnt have anyone in the circle with you and you were missing at least 5% HP.

The amount of players in the room doesn't matter. Only the # of people in the AoE

[nimble hinge]

so if they left the room does it count as them been 4 people

[swift grove]

Player count in the room doesn't matter. Only the # of people in the blue or purple circle

[nimble hinge]

hmm but how does the purple circle decide on a damage amount?

[terse hull]

1 person = 95% Max Health True Damage + 65% Max Health Heal
2 people = 50% Max Health True Damage + 35% Max Health Heal
3 people = 15% Max Health True Damage + 10% Max Health Heal
4 people = 5% Max Health True Damage + 3.5% Max Health Heal
5 people = 2.5% Max Health True Damage + 1.5% Max Health Heal

[swift grove]

Curse of Gathering = Spawns a purple circle underneath the player that detonates after 5 seconds. The circle will deal less damage as the number of players are inside it increase. Heals back some amount of damage over 20 seconds.
1 person = 95% Max Health True Damage + 65% Max Health Heal
2 people = 50% Max Health True Damage + 35% Max Health Heal
3 people = 15% Max Health True Damage + 10% Max Health Heal
4 people = 5% Max Health True Damage + 3.5% Max Health Heal
5 people = 2.5% Max Health True Damage + 1.5% Max Health Heal

(Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Lich )

[velvet kelp]

im telling you bro, this guy has no idea what he is talking about. he's literally hitting the wiki to answer your question as we speak

[nimble hinge]

whats the heal referring to

[swift grove]

after you take the damage from the spell effect, you heal back a percentage of it slowly. this is why clerics dont bring protection from evil to fight lich. It'll make the 5second delay into like 3 seconds and you wont get the full healing back from the effect afterward

[vapid oyster]

wouldn't refering to the wiki for info be the correct move

[dull sail]

anyone need a cleric healer on their team?

[terse hull]

dont you think its a little silly to just keep commenting stuff about him if he has you blocked?

and its also seperately a bit silly to act like him going to the wiki to provide detailed answers is somehow a negative thing

like i knew that being inside the purple circle reduces the damage and that it is most important to have at least 1 other person in the circle with you to prevent it from being a potential instakill, but i didnt know the exact damage values or how it was calc'd so i pulled up the wiki and copy/pasted the relevant info

idk what started the animosity and i dont really care enough to go back and reread the chat to find out, but if he has you blocked its over and not worth commenting on no?

[swift grove]

dudes a troll bud, ez block

[swift grove]

You'll have an easier time finding teammates in the regional LFG channels. #lfg-northamerica #lfg-europe #lfg-oceania there are others, dont want to spam em all here. You can check id:customize to gain access

[desert orchid]

is it possible to tell if dead guy ragequit?

[dull sail]

aight

[signal osprey]

cant snowball off normals can we remove the stupid HR requirements now?

[terse hull]

kinda, you could try /w "username" and if it says player not found its probably bc that character is not online anymore, but that could just be that they changed to a diff class

[desert orchid]

kinda sad u cant tell if a dead guy dced they rly gotta add that to the game

[swift grove]

solid tip. I knew the d/c icon wouldnt show if they're dead but never thought to try the whisper system

[terse hull]

you can easily go sub25 to 225 in a single dungeon run if you go crypts and have inferno to go deeper and get more loot

or maybe itll take you 2-3 raids to get a suitable kit but its def doable in 1

might not be the best kit though, its a lot to easier to quickly slap kits together once you get the relavant merchant affinity up

[chrome sun]

^ This

[signal osprey]

i dont agree with being forced into normals for any reason dont think its the devs place to decide which gamemode im to play

[storm goblet]

how long till the whipe?

[terse hull]

you wanna run a duo with me and ill show you how to get a basic HR kit

its really not hard, and it keeps HR from being full of players with no gear and no risk

wouldnt be very High Roller to not have any risk

[signal osprey]

I do not want to play normals for anyreason id rather not play entirely

[wild scaffold]

does magic heal help life drain without torture mastery???

[terse hull]

ok word

[chrome sun]

mmmm I kinda wanna go with someone to do a high roller run. I've done one high roller run and I left before tryna get good loot from it cuz I was struggling for a bit to get HR gear (now its easy just go with 9 gear score and grind money to buy gear from marketplace)

[swift grove]

Tentative (unconfirmed) wipe date Sept 6th

[swift grove]

Im pretty sure the only things that impact healing received by life drain are vampirism and magic damage

[chrome sun]

you could also just inflate your gearscore lol.
dont need to bring actual good gear in

[dense pine]

so does Fighter just do Ranger's job better

[next marsh]

Pretty sure i know this answer, but does additional weapon damage apply to crystal swords magic weapon damage as well as to the regular weapon damage?

[terse hull]

no they do seperate things, only real overlap is ability to shoot a bow

[chrome sun]

Going high roller anyone wanna duo?

[dense pine]

I hear fighters do ranged just better

[velvet kelp]

Well he permanently put me off coming here ever again to ask a question so i wanted new players to be wary of him

[swift grove]

No. "Weapon Damage" and "Magical Damage" are the two types of damage modifier to the front end of the damage formula. They're separate things. (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Damage )

[eternal violet]

whens the next wipe

[terse hull]

rangers deal better ranged damage and do it faster, and have multiple skills that buff their bow usage

fighters can tank more hits, and do better in melee, but rangers have traps and generally better MS, plus multishot can just delete players if you get good with it for melee range fights on ranger

[tidal lynx]

any tips on fighting demon stuff. cuz they too strong

[swift grove]

Tentative (unconfirmed) wipe date Sept 6th

[eternal violet]

ty

[terse hull]

each enemy has set attack animations which can be dodged once you learn them, or if you have any ranged weapons/attacks you can get into spots they cant reach you and just shoot them in the head repeatedly until they die

[chrome sun]

going highroller solo in goblin cave wish me luck guys. Prays I dont end up spawning next to a bunch of bugs

[swift grove]

Ryan6DaysAWeek has good video guides on how to fight various monsters in the dungeons. Try https://youtu.be/ydD1ZHWHVQU?si=Iw_I5zaeOZr4TA_P and https://youtu.be/S9fXlLWOtvI?si=TRfJQqAGU3xtGLc3

[chrome sun]

This one is good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsQzKe1kb4

[pliant umbra]

anyone have advice for taking on barbs as bard in <25gs solos? Feels impossibe to kite them and once they close in it's over

[chrome sun]

Almost died to the first goblin archer, great start

[terse hull]

if you have a shield most of the common barb weapons are fairly easy to block, but bard is a squishy class that from what i understand doesnt do particularly well in low gs, where barbs thrive in low GS

[severe otter]

Gotta get over the fear brother. Don't necesarily try to just escape. Try to learn the mobs and how to kill them. That way you will have a better time in hr faster.

[chrome sun]

Ik lol it was a tight corridoor

[swift grove]

shriek of weakness and lament of languor (if you can get enough mem cap for it) are very helpful vs barbarians. keep your buffs up, debuff them when you get a chance to shut a door on them and then beat them with finesse. bait their attacks and punish misses with good spacing. chip damage with the surv bow if you have any kite time at all

[chilly ivy]

what is the best solo class right now?

[swift grove]

for ap farm: warlock
for PVP: barbarian or wizard
for getting rich avoiding players: druid

[severe otter]

Ranger is also nuts + bard tbh

[desert orchid]

is there a single mic user in EU random queues?

[dense pine]

rogue is so bad they arent even good at avoiding players

[swift grove]

Its kind of a meme how few voip users there are in EU

[severe otter]

nah they are good

[dense pine]

this person hasnt played one

[terse hull]

they can, but i find many rogues are a littel bloodthirsty and think they can kite and skirmish you to death and many times they overcommit too early and die instead

[severe otter]

i used to be a rogue main its still pretty good. Hard class to balance with invis. Honestly would be a much better class if invis were gone and they buffed a ton of other aspects

[dense pine]

rogue has been nerfed hard since youve played

[terse hull]

i keep seeing suggestions to change them into having a poison memory akin to spell memory, or just a toolbelt with more utility stuff like maybe being able to lock a door, or drop caltrops/smoke from utility belt instead of taking 1 skill slot for either of those

i think those all sound like much better class features than invis and burst damage

tbf i dont play much rogue so who knows

[chrome sun]

I made it out of HR with a bunch of stuff to sell, good haul money wise. God it was so scary lmfao. Mostly when I was tryna find an exit, cant really just run through mobs

[swift grove]

Jokester, Doublejump, Traps n Locks, Ambush (only used as a mini sprint) Abilities: Smoke Pot + Hide. Shirtless lycan with utility gloves, lightfoot boots, loose trousers, and a lyre. Use your ludicrous interaction speed, smoke pot, and ambush speed boost to kite players to infinity. You open and close 2 doors before they can open the first. Thats how I rogue. Rat for free dungeon loot and if you see a player, you skidaddle

[terse hull]

bless, anything you learned from that run or any particularly juicy loot rolls

[chrome sun]

Not really anything good loot wise. I learned moneys good though for selling loot

[hazy sable]

Does HR have only one matchmaking gearscore lobby?

[swift grove]

HR is 225+, everyone queues together

[terse hull]

for getting to extract at the end, i reccomend securing an extract before the timer hits 4 mins if possible just to alleviate having to juke mobs to get to a portal or staircase

but if you make it out with 10 seconds or 6 minutes you still made it out

[severe otter]

i feel like they should remove hide entirely (i know it kinda is the whole class atm) and focus more on poking abilities + get away. Like imagine a skill where you dash forwards, do 2 stabs and dash backwards. getting in and out of combat doing dmg, but if you get hit you take so much dmg because you are squishy.

[chrome sun]

Still had a couple minutes but my worry is more about running into a sweat lmfao

[terse hull]

fs, the group extracts tend to be more rife with player activity even in solo just because people know its more likel there is still at least one portal left, and extracts along the outskirts of the map tend to be a bit more lax

[jagged cape]

they need so much more content, 2 years of testing and its getting boring

[terse hull]

i still got plenty left but i havent playing for 2 years, extraction games are good games to sit out fora wipe or two if you feel like the grind/gameplay is feeling a littel stale

i do agree that more content would be nice, and specifically some quests are just aids to complete (Unscathed Escape is literally a 0 enjoyment quest imo, the only way to reliably complete the quest is to essentially afk farm until you get lucky enough with spawns and player movement to get your 3 extracts with zero damage)

[chrome sun]

The real treasure was the trading master we met along the way

[velvet kelp]

Noone cares, but if there are @mods here, I felt bullied by @swift grove who, after I asked a question in good faith, called me a troll and instructed others to block me and not answer my questions. I didn't do anything to deserve that and have been put off ever coming to this discord again to participate in the community. Hopefully not everyone in this community condones that, and yeah I'm just sensitive but seeing how active he is on here, I don't want other new players to get bullied by him too. Peace

[severe otter]

mate go to sleep. you are riding a dead horse. He blocked you, so just block him. Move on. 👋

[velvet kelp]

You're telling me to move on after i just said i'm moving on and not coming back. also it's 2pm in New zealand lol

[chrome sun]

guys, I hate myself, therefore I decided to solo HR frost mountain

[manic rover]

🫡🫡

[stark elbow]

how does the goblin merchant wortk if your friend takes the stuff out for you?

[swift grove]

Your gear should appear in the service tab

[solid spoke]

@chrome sun its not easy but its effecient if you are avoiding pvp and just want to ap farm

[stark elbow]

like instantly? because i got the pop up that said my teamate had stuff and now its not there

[swift grove]

I've seen this from a couple of people today. I think there may be a bug with gear not showing up if you survive and extract? I'm not positive. #report-a-bug if you encountered something weird

[mystic obsidian]

as a fighter with sovereigb's ghostblade should i build true mag or phys?

[swift grove]

unless you're running a pestilence with it, you should prob go with phys. your ranged damage won't receive any benefit from true mag

[mystic obsidian]

thank you

[swift grove]

no worries 🙂

[crystal lynx]

hmm is there an invisible weapon cheat going around or did I just get screwed by a bug 😥

[native pine]

what number do the main stats fall off at

[swift grove]

it varies https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats

[chrome sun]

ooooooof I died. I got greedy and tried using the lift to escape, level was .1 seconds away from activating it when the yeti jumped into me

[frozen robin]

How do I report a cheater? My buddy has it on video but it wont let him put it in the report section.

[swift grove]

#in-game-reports

[frozen robin]

thanks

[thorn crown]

do we know if account wide affinity will be available next season?

[brazen finch]

Does true magical damage work with shadow touch perk as a warlock?

[swift grove]

No. Shadow touch doesn't scale

[brazen finch]

Thanks, also is there any way to tell what stuff scales and what's not, maybe description tells something i don't understand

[swift grove]

Usually if the ability or whatever has damage scaling, it'll show a (1.0) or like (.1) in the description to denote 100% scaling or 10% scaling. The wiki also has info on ability damage scaling (Source: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Warlock#Perks-0 for warlock's Shadow Touch for example)

[brazen finch]

I always thought what these numbers meant, thank you

[swift grove]

no worries 🙂

[earnest ruin]

i want my kit back bruh https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/iuNLWliVHJLEbBKrt/d1337hhmX9s1?invite=cr-MSxyaVEsMzA4OTg2OTMs

[normal minnow]

What do you guys think about the map rotation btw, I kinda dislike having to wait till map changes

[swift grove]

Its a good way to organize the available playerbase into queues without empty lobbies. We already split the playerbase many many times with different maps, GBMM brackets and HR/Normals... the map rotation is necessary to keep the lobbies as populated as possible

[spare elbow]

Its a little annoying but feels better than sitting in a 5-10 minute queue

[normal minnow]

I mean I kinda disagree, cause if you sit 6 minutes to wait for a map or 6 minutes in queue makes no difference, but at least you have a chance to start sooner if enough people join the lobby

and with 12k in dungeon and 12k in lobby there should be enough people imho

[cursive shuttle]

LISTEN HERE IM!!!!

HOW TF DO I FREEZE ON AN ELEVATOR GOING UP IN FROST CAVES BUT MY TEAMMATE STAYS IN LONGER AND DOES NOT FREEZE!!!! WTAF IS THIS GAME!!!!

[normal minnow]

Cause the airflow in elevator room is stronger so your body cools out faster

[cursive shuttle]

I have no idea man. That is one of the wonkiest things to ever happen to me in this game lol.

[tidal mortar]

i miss ruins man

[jovial lynx]

best way to find leather caps for quest?

[swift grove]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Leather_Cap#Dropped_By

[marble blaze]

been gone a few days, do we know gear score caps for norms?

[proven spear]

under 25 works ok. beyond that is matchmaking you with whatever gear score it founs. i was 119 and got paired with 450+ just now

[cursive shuttle]

Loot chests and break boxes and barrels.

[marble blaze]

heard, thanks

[balmy minnow]

i thought there was 124 normals?

[blazing pulsar]

dont forget to report ALL barbarians for cheating

[proven spear]

was. idk what change they did on last patch. but i was the lowest GS and there where 2 450+ and the rest had between 124 and 250

[balmy minnow]

i thought they went back on that pretty quick tho. i saw nan got taken out of the cage on reddit. to the brackets there was before. 0-24. 124. +

[last garden]

the new matchmaking seems to have some really good features. With a fresh account on a Steam Deck, there were just newbies in the matches dying to PvE in goblin caves

[proven spear]

well im just telling the exp i had

[bold galleon]

wait so what happened with ruins, are they adding that back or never

[sweet iris]

Hello why im getting this message when trying to buy redstone shard "You need to purchase the prerequisite product before you can buy this item."

[turbid pine]

it will be readded next season after they finish overhauling it

[swift grove]

600 AP is the entry fee for ice cavern at Voy 1. Are you sure you're looking at the right map's entry fees? There is a dropdown

[formal nexus]

Nvm my UI was lagging a refresh was correct
Hyped for ruins

[tropic anchor]

watch ryan6daysaweeks most recent video he explains how to do it. BUT I D NEVER EVER DO IT EVNEN IF I REALLY REALLY HATED MYSELF... good luck 🙂

[tropic anchor]

isnt it the same on every map?

[glossy flax]

this game gonna die if they dont nerf wizard

[balmy minnow]

everybody in here crying over a fireball buff and some cast speed.

[fathom acorn]

does anyone know what they're doing to GBMM? I'm going in with 60 gearscore in normals and runing into people in full blues

[tropic anchor]

I think in this new update the lobbies are absolutely random... so you can run against 400 gear score dude while having 60 yourself

[sick zenith]

whats the max amount of time goblin merchant can take to bring kit back after death? 30min? I wanna hop off for the night but lost insane gear to pve. lol

[earnest ruin]

i just wanna play the game bro https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/iuPNIlwtJbegA7-_s/d1337Ffauziz?invite=cr-MSxCWU0sMzA4OTg2OTMs

[tulip kindle]

zwei bloodlust achilles is amazing lol but ya in trios barb sucks. good thing this game is best played duos n solos

[dawn musk]

Whens the wipe

[turbid pine]

September 6th

[jovial goblet]

anyone know why the wyvern exit just randomly stopped floating me and I lost legendaries cuz of it?

[subtle heart]

So i am f2p and i dont have 30 dollar legendary account. So i dont understand what doo I need money for if i cant even access marketplace...

[turbid pine]

you can still purchase listings as f2p, you just can't put your own up to sell.

[subtle heart]

oh i see how do i access listings?

[turbid pine]

should just be under the trading tab
just the trading post (live trading) and "put up your own offer" parts will be blocked off

[subtle heart]

Thanks ill check it in a bit i am in a dungeon

[radiant crater]

just got disconnected after beasting someone in gabo caves very sad

[cosmic swan]

Nop try #report-a-bug

[wicked ore]

is there any way to increase outgoing buffs and debuffs as classes other than bard?

[wise cipher]

does quick reload perk work with crossbow?

[solemn glacier]

no

[versed pendant]

is ironmace gonna add like how much people r in ur game like 10/12 people typa thing?

[pseudo zinc]

is blocking ever going to ever actually give a benefit to the guy who blocks because its borderline uesless unless you have a riposte or fighter perks. People can literally whiff the air and you cant approach without a trade. If you block and try to throw out a strike after said successful block, you more than likely are going to trade. If you hold m1 and just hope they run into your combo, youll both still probably end up in a trade. Why is there no actual back and forth in the combat past just spacing?

[solemn glacier]

no because it helps the teamers out and cheaters

[solemn glacier]

wild take comes down to skill issue

[pseudo zinc]

thats not a wild take or a skill issue??? Its a genuine problem as the mechanic is just borderline useless. A fighter comes at you just holding w+m1 and no matter how many times you block it you cannot approach him without gaining any advantage. Then whats the point of the block??? All its doing is just delaying inevitably taking damage, which at that point I might as well just be dodging through spacing and trying to thread in a hit which has the same problem. Blocking is a risk vs reward without any actual reward

[normal minnow]

Also please, delete freaking longsword from this game ..

[normal minnow]

Coudln´t agree more, just blocked the stab attack of a fighter with his longsword, did my swing after he riposte and kills me with the two riposte strikes

like .. comon .. just delete longsword it´s not even funny

and now I have to stare at the screen for 5 minutes for the map to come again .. getting tired of it

[pseudo zinc]

See though there I disagree! If you blocked and swung, then he blocked and riposted, thats an actual skill issue because thats the back and forth nature of a melee fight as it SHOULD be. He blocked after you tried to counter his attack and suceeded so he should be rewarded and you should have to react and go back on the defensive

[normal minnow]

Yeah no but my block swing isn´t a riposte dealing a gazillion dmg ...

[pseudo zinc]

thats because the longswords block is actually really bad when it comes to coverage. Even less than a buckler, so it should get rewarded for doing so.

[fervent bison]

does druid heals scale with buff duration? or it just makes them worse, because nature’s touch count as a buff as long as restore, like dreamwalk does

[normal minnow]

So is my bardiche
Like blocking his stab was more a lucky punch than anything to be honest

[pseudo zinc]

Exactly my point. Longsword has benefits for blocking so should the bardiche, even if its minimal but right now it has nothing. Maybe it could get a butt poke that disorients people or something

[normal minnow]

If you ask me, delete the riposte from longsword, give each block frame advantage (like in Tekken games for example, or most fighting games) where if you block an attack, enemy has recover frames where they cant swing or block
and a big shield might only put -5 frames on enemy wheras blocking with bardiche or longsword gives -12 or smth

[crystal lynx]

brooo idk if I just bugged or something but can nightmare goblin mage cancel their buff channel to do magic missile again?

[pseudo zinc]

See tho deleting the riposte gets rid of a lot of uniqueness when it could be something for a few weapons of the same general idea. If you got rid of the riposte right now itd be one of the worst weapons in the game because the intial poke is slow. You should be able to pick whatever attack you want to start off with full stop but thats a different issue entirely. This game having its damage based in a combo system holding m1 turns it into a glorified DPS fest since people get more benefits holding the attack button since theres no actual punishment for whiffing.

[brave storm]

is matchmaking broken is the game that dead? 10 games in a row no people anywhere

[atomic flame]

lmao no longsword takes actual skill to use, your frame idea is good tho

[crystal lynx]

bro my games have never been better what gear score r u queuing

[brave storm]

at first giga looted HR but after 3 games zero players we have been playing 124 lobbies and its been like this all tonight and yesterday just complete zero player dead lobbies

[crystal lynx]

weiiiird, cause my HR lobbies r always popping as are my 124 lobbies. What server u guys on?

[brave storm]

east lobbies no one to be seen anywhere

[crystal lynx]

whack I play on west

[normal minnow]

No see blocking with a longsword would still be a lot better than blocking with a shield you´d get a longer time window to attack. In that sense the skill it takes to block with it would still be rewarded

[crystal lynx]

one of you wants a fighting game and the other wants chivalry I think its safe to say you wil never agree

[normal minnow]

Also no punishment for whiffing ... try the felling axe

[acoustic flare]

How do you get to the high ground in dual cavern in ice cavern?

[pseudo zinc]

Right! its the only weapon that is actually punished. Thats a problem.

[flint sandal]

does + magical healing make heal pots more effective?

[slim juniper]

is anyone thinking theres a small balance issue with wizards, as long as they know enough they can easily kill anyone, there should be a samage nerf or magic restiance buff i think

[fervent wind]

Where are death skulls in goblin caves? The map I was using says ants nest or goblin town but every time I go there even if I spawn next to them I can’t find any so wasn’t sure if the map is out of date

[marsh lark]

can you still get named items from goblin merchant?

[mental wolf]

Is it worth buying and using a Frozen iorn key

[manic walrus]

That is a thing already
If you swing and hit a block you do get minus frames in the form of recovery

[wild chasm]

nah i think they maybe just overdid wizard cast speed, hes supposed to do damage and hard counter pdr fighters

[slim juniper]

Ah, that makes sense, im just salty at grtting destroyed by them

[polar dagger]

they gotta add a squad up feature for the matchmaking system, would be lit if u could see a list of partys, and join one based on your gear score

[floral ledge]

at what point do stats start getting diminishing returns?

[modest frost]

Where would i make a suggestion?

[wild chasm]

how has matchmaking been for everyone? i consistently get like 7 player game

[ocean eagle]

Rank the classes from 1 to 9 (1 being the best) for how good the class is for PVP in solo games. I'll go first, let me see your lists.

1 Fighter
2 Barb
3 Ranger
4 Wizard
5 Cleric (maybe higher, recent nerfs changed some things)
6 Druid
7 Warlock
8 Rogue
9 Bard

I feel rogue is a very arguable class as a solo pvper, if they get the surprise attack on someone they can be very successful, but in a 1v1 where both players see each other and are fighting and kiting, rogue is often not very good unless they are VERY well kitted. Rogues in the under 25 lobbies can often get the surprise attack and still lose against some classes such as fighter or barb. Warlock can also be good if its well kitted, their main source of long range is dark bolt. If they could use hand crossbows i think they'd be higher.

[nimble spire]

is trolls club rare? and how much is it worth, just got back froma 3 month break and started farming troll first time getting this drop also its an epic not sure if it changes between rarities or not

[chrome sorrel]

Bard 9 lmfao

[manic walrus]

Bard at last? Lool

[nimble spire]

Anyone?

[plush quarry]

get rid of map rotate we dont need it now

[ocean eagle]

where do yall think barD belongs? I was ranking this for solos

[static flare]

is anyone else lobbys compleatly dead after new matchmaking or is it just oce ?

[jade lake]

how much gear

[harsh plank]

Guys, does anyone tried stacking knowledge on rogue to use invisibility potions?

[ocean eagle]

it works. You can use hide, then use invis pot, then use hide again at the end of cooldown and stay pretty much invis

[harsh plank]

damn

[fading canopy]

how much does a gold coin chest sell for?

[manic walrus]

1080 gold

[fading canopy]

💀 no it doesnt

[manic walrus]

If you know why you asking? What info do you have and what info do you need

[inland roost]

Haven't done Lich for quite some time. How do you stop the orb that follows you. Are walls still reliable or only skeletons?

[fading canopy]

i mean dude a gold coin bag sells for more and a chest is better so dude cmon

[manic walrus]

Ok thanks for clarifying
To answer your question: 7800

[fading canopy]

why did you say 1080????

[fast basin]

Hello guys im new at the game someone ready to play with me? Send me dm or inv:DanyPjukeny

[lucid saffron]

Daily request to remove ranger traps already please they are horrible for the everybody and make the game worse

[ocean eagle]

Average barbarian.

[lucid saffron]

probably played more ranger than any other class buddy lol

[ocean eagle]

Oh so you stepped in your own trap. ha.

I do think rangers should be able to see their own traps highlighted like the rogue ability "traps and locks"
It would be a nice QOL for rangers.

[lucid saffron]

gr8 b8 m8

[grizzled meteor]

Bard is anywhere in top 3

[hoary edge]

ran a duos today HR we both had a GS around 400, just under, got matched into a lobby with a frostlite ranger , elven bow of truth 1035 GS and a 800+ GS rogue with unique orndel..

thanks ironmace!!! Rondel**

the new matching making syhstem is DEF WROKING, DEF NOT GETTING GEAR CHECKED M

[crystal lynx]

it depends on the times you're playing at. If your server is low pop you'll get gear checked for s ure. But when its popping I've had great games of lobbies with everyone i run into at like 200gs, or 300gs its pretty poggers

[hoary edge]

BY 250K gold+ Frostlite ranger with elven bow.. def not happening, its working!! def not ruinning into 1800+ GS team when we are under 800

[prime flare]

would a system that grants u 1 talent point for each successful escape, in a talent tree that increase certain aspects of your build VERY slightly be a welcoming change, could this be interesting?

[crystal lynx]

Oh wait this bros talking about HR nvm he's just dumb

[hoary edge]

ya no.. sat afternoon west coast is def off peak, the new matching making system is def working G

love handing gear over to 1800+ GS duos team when we are under 800 duos.. tots

[grizzled meteor]

HR has no matchmaking
The new system is just for norms

[prime flare]

well u got a chance to grab gear 10x your own value?

[crystal lynx]

bro is blaming something that doesn't exist in HR for the reason he sucks

[spice sand]

Hello friends, could anybody tell me what the heck is going on with Abnormal Behavior detection rn? Got kicked from the game for the 3rd time for no apparent reason

[wanton otter]

[livid fossil]

Delirium 4 sk boss

[wind venture]

I Swear if you want to become rich. Go in geared into HR ice cavern. Tap friendly and open chests and loot corpses for a little bits before suddenly killing the one you did friendly too.

[subtle heart]

-100000 aura

[wind venture]

+100000 gold!

[pastel birch]

Anyone want to duo HR? I'm trying to get to pathfinder and am currently wanderererer 3

[jade delta]

Why 90 gear score players are put against 600+ gear score ones?

[wraith smelt]

if i have voip set to party am i unable to hear other team's proximity ?

[rugged basin]

yes

[reef siren]

hican some one explain what the lyre lute ans drum do?

[vapid arch]

allows the bard to play songs which give certain buffs

[lethal anvil]

has anyone heard if people are experiencing stuttering since last update?

had no issues until the matchmaking update

[ornate canyon]

are mobs stronger in higher gearscore brackets or are they the same in all brackets?

[terse hull]

Mobs are can spawn as Normal, Elite or Nightmare variants

In normals most mobs are Normal, witha few being elite, and maybe 1-2 nightmare, but almost never more than 1-2 and usually its goblins or mummies and nothing major

HR is almost exclusively Elite and nightmare mobs with manyt more skewing towards Nightmare

Elite=red
Nightmare=Black

so GS brackets in normals does not change mob spawns, but HR does

[ornate canyon]

@terse hull ty

[thorn nimbus]

I don't think nightmares can spawn in normals outside of inferno and abyss

[dire lily]

Guys anyone knows this warcry mechanic ? for example i have 200 hp with warcry i get to 250 then i got 100 hp hit, now will my hp 150 after warcry ends or 100hp?

[signal ibex]

You will always have the same % of hp after the effect ends

[rapid sapphire]

Where will my friends 450gs worth of gear return to?

[silk egret]

like it how dungeon recoveries is working as intented

[signal ibex]

So like if you're hit for 100 from 250hp, that's 40% of your HP gone. So consider when the warcry ends you'll be left with 60% of your hp, from the original value of 200

[chrome sun]

I thought it was random whether you got the chance to recover items, since he's never got anything I really needed

[silk egret]

last time i got all back when my friend picked em up now i got only 2 items and i have to pay for those , pretty dog shiet

[dire lily]

ohh, then it is not that op i guess. it is not that much. thanks for the info

[signal ibex]

So war cry saves like 20 hps in that instance. Also consider it does work for the team, too /shrug

[rapid sapphire]

So, goblin prompt dungeon recovery does not work yet? Can I decline his modal and transfer items myself?

[silk egret]

goblin recovery does not work

[plush comet]

Hello, I just got a named weapon for the first time, just curious how do you build around pestilence on a ranger?. Do I stack magic and physical?

[signal ibex]

Yeah it gave me the prompt that I got my buddies stuff back, even showed me the stuff, and he didn't get the stuff even after he got the message

[silk egret]

just lost my 500gs ranger set cause of that , those gears are in the black hole of dog shit goblin

[rapid sapphire]

next time I'll try to restart the client maybe

[signal ibex]

Yah we lost 4 legendary items, oh well lol, new system indeed

[chrome sun]

oof

[brittle vault]

Can we just ban all chinese players like the second three chinese accounts form a team of triple barb and que hr why arent they immediatly banned \

[short sparrow]

To avoid false bans

[brittle vault]

its not false literally every chinese person on east trios hr are esp even more so on west

[manic ravine]

i was just rn booted out of the game because of "abnormal activity" with no option to reconnect
so with IM behavior every single player, legit or not, could be banned

[chrome sun]

dang dude if only there was a single time a player was like "yeah, I wouldnt wanna be killed either", especially when the dude is saying "I really dont have anything on me lets just kill this thing together"

why do all the solo runners I spectate team up but everyone wants to swing at me 😭

(Didnt lose anything I dont go into base dungeon with stuff)

[gray comet]

I think an option to stay as a team will be a good addition to the match making system.

[split reef]

why am i crashing when pulling items from inv to chest

[mental elbow]

why wizard is so fucking strong this days

[signal ibex]

Wiz isnt that bad when you know how to play against them

[lunar bloom]

I mean, that highly depends on the skill of the wizard. If you’re going against a crazy wizard not much you can do when they’re landing every zap, slow, and all that crap

[mental elbow]

so what i can do vs wiz when im on barb for example

[signal ibex]

A wiz wants to keep you at medium range. You either out range them or find a way to close the gap that doesn't involve holding W. If you miss your abilities to slow them down, or fight on their terms, you'll have a bad time

[lunar bloom]

1. Run away
2. Try to bait them to get close
3. Throw a Achilles strike Francisca at them, and close in and slam em while dodging all their spells

[chrome sun]

Running from a wizard always ends in death if they've already started the chase

[signal ibex]

Good players dodge a majority of the wizard spell library and also bait fireballs. Don't be afraid to reset if you're on bad footing. Wait for them to press if that's the case. A pushing wizard is very weak, they always want to be kiting, imo

[lunar bloom]

Def not, with a speedy barbarian build with crush it’s very easy to get away

[signal ibex]

A bad barbarian is like candy for a wizard. A good barb makes me cry lol. They only need to hit you once and it's over

[runic turtle]

You can also bait the fireball when you try to open a door, wait for them to shoot then dodge and run thru

[abstract summit]

beo does the dungeon recovery just not work at all why did they add this? cant bring friends gear out anymore

[lunar bloom]

As a barb main wizards don’t scare me at all. But pdr fighters? Nightmare fuel

[signal ibex]

Fighters that know how to shield and press are scary as hell. Honestly? Any player that knows their class is scary

[chrome sun]

Guys I met 2 peaceful players in solo omg its a real thing. Players can just go their own way instead of engaging every time 😄

[mental elbow]

So what do you build on bard i cant do a shit vs wiz these last days

[signal ibex]

I do tend to believe that the classes are all fairly balanced and effective. Perhaps the recent warlock build combined with phantomize simply requires.. less skill to pull off

[runic turtle]

I honestly don’t have trouble killing warlocks as a barb

[lunar bloom]

I always run a crush fast barb build and then once I get relatively close, hit ‘em with a Achilles strike Francisca axe, and push them while dodging their spells (I also run iron will). If I miss the axe I run and wait for CD

[signal ibex]

Barb vs wiz is knowing when to put weapons away, when to Achilles, baiting spells to get their counts lower and committing to a good press if you land ranged or if they don't run from your shout to reset you

[lunar bloom]

^ basically, except real chads don’t bait spells and instead kill em before they’re out 😎

[spice quartz]

bro fix the god dam fuckign wizard man having magic missile fucking NOT JOKKINE HOMMING FUCKING MISSLES APE FUCKING DOG DEVS NEVER PLAYED THERE OWN GAME

[runic turtle]

I just try to bait fireballs and zaps. Every other spell is easier to dodge

[signal ibex]

Barb is the only class that can have pretty decent magic resist, I feel? With iron will. I know armor slows them down of course. Anyways, most wizards want to fireball you right away. It's all position for a melee guy

[runic turtle]

[vast shoal]

Warlock has really good magic resist

[spice quartz]

bro i just lost a kit so fucking ass u know how ?? let me tell you a ranger and a wizard one spams arrows other fucking guy spams me with fire ball ice and magic missle ????? in a span of 2 seconds and i as a rouge what can i do ?? run away cant slowed not only that missle fucking followed me thats how i died kept spinning around me for 5 seconds straight until it hit me delete that class

[lunar bloom]

Nah most barbs are pretty fast. But yeah with iron will, the time it takes wizards to cast a fireball takes so long that barbs take up so much ground and then don’t even take back knock back cuz of iron will 😂

[signal ibex]

Lmao magic missile following around the person is so funny

[wind venture]

use invis

[lunar bloom]

Just become a landmine rogue 😛

[spice quartz]

never

[wind venture]

smoke bomb is also an option

[vast shoal]

Does anyone know if there are external factors to spawn loaction? I've gotten the mummy room spawn 5 times in a row. I like farming the mummies with Hellfire but it's throwing me off

[signal ibex]

I agree. They literally give you the wizard counter perk. If you don't take it when playing solo, that's your fault. I think a lot of complaining people do has to do with them wanting to play a certain way and not adapting to overcome. Also at the same time complaints can be warranted and true and that's up to the devs to decide and for me to sound very black and white about 😄

[runic turtle]

Tbh I just think fireball was overtuned. All the wizard changes were good tho besides fireball. I think it was fine how it was pre buff

[lunar bloom]

I think most classes are pretty balanced to be fair

Besides Druid, I hate that stupid little rat form

[runic turtle]

Yea druids and rangers make me want to punch my monitor tho

[lunar bloom]

Agreed

[wraith olive]

Druid is actually the most nerfed class

[viral python]

do is ghost king have high roller attack?

[signal ibex]

It's hard to balance classes that have high skill expression(druid) and also very low skill expression(warlock)

[lunar bloom]

Idc how strong it is, I don’t mind fighting them I hate them running away

[runic turtle]

I used to hate warlock a lot a couple patches ago but I feel pretty confident in killing them now as a barb

[toxic anvil]

is 1.5% move speed bonus and +5 additional move speed a perfect roll on rare adventure boots?

[wraith olive]

Well its good

[toxic anvil]

i think it's a perfect roll on an item that gives you 24gs allowing you to be fast as f boi in -25 lobbies

[lunar bloom]

Well 1.5% MS bonus is perfect

[wraith olive]

Most people just go lightfoot anyways

[toxic anvil]

dont need lightfoot in -25 with these, you will have over 305+ ms and +4 dex which helps with attack, block, weapon/utility switching significantly. current offer is 6k

[wraith olive]

That's way too much ngl "for rare"

[toxic anvil]

if it's the current offer then it is not way too much. im asking 30k for the proll rare adventure boots that would easily allow a player to dominate -25

[obtuse torrent]

How long does it take for frostlight craftables to come back

[toxic anvil]

trading market has 3 on it for 4.5k+. you can wear 1 rare item in -25

[wraith olive]

There are tons of perfect rolls for 2k