game-discussion

[lofty smelt]

Mr. Bones is never off topic

[rich needle]

If I save them will I still have them?

[echo granite]

why is gc so bad recently? been dying all the time here but any other map is great.

[rapid vapor]

No

[low kelp]

Is the mummy skin locked to your account or does it get wiped with the next wipe?

[rapid vapor]

Cosmetics are unlocked for your account and are permanent

[dark shadow]

Do Bluestone shards reset in between wipes?

[topaz lance]

@dark shadow No

[rough yew]

does anyone know is old quest rewards "not ranked" will be available ever again? like the frost skelly

[kind fractal]

Anyone else having problems buying Redstone shards on the og launcher? It redirects me to the website but on the payment page it's just blank

[rotund pawn]

Buff warlock

[finite yoke]

You are malding over nerfs to perks that didn't matter anyways

[rotund pawn]

I don’t play warlock bad class needs buffs

[finite yoke]

How can you say the class is bad if you have not played it? It sounds like you are angry that you tried it once or twice then died.

[wet orchid]

I heard somewhere that the plan is to have previous reward cosmetics available in 2 seasons in the shop

[rotund pawn]

Nah I used to play it like 2 seasons ago came back this season to play fighter played a little warlock it was bad now I just stomp warlocks as a pdr fighter it’s great really have been enjoying fighter tho super fun and extremely easy class

[finite yoke]

"played a little warlock" So I was right.

[rotund pawn]

Yea a little bit haha it was my fav class now it’s booty I’d rather do 70 dmg with my bow than 20 dmg curse that got bad range

[finite yoke]

Well, you get healing from your curses, and unlike curses, you can't run out of arrows.
Plus you can just phantomise and the arrows don't damage you.

[rotund pawn]

Trust me I’m not using all 60 of my arrows haha and my blue healing pots heal way more than curses on my fighter also I just count when they phantomize and try and get them as soon as they’re out like I said I’ve been loving fighter

[finite yoke]

You could, hear me out, drink a pot AND use a curse :O

[rotund pawn]

I could actually was thinking about it today just playing warlock without the torture mastery (no healing) and just use pots it seems more effective but fighter makes pvp so easy I don’t wanna go back to kiting people that shit is boring

[finite yoke]

First you're using a bow, now you don't want to kite? Seems contradictory.

[rotund pawn]

It’s a different type of kiting because what I truly want is to weaken them and then melee it’s very different from warlock gameplay also if another person got a bow I’m not just gonna run at them and eat arrows the meta is ranged not using a bow is very bad

[pure bramble]

remove druid from the game

[obsidian leaf]

Where is 'The Ruins' map

[finite yoke]

But with warlock gameplay, you kite them to weaken at range then melee. Seems like the same thing to me, except you can press a button for a free escape

[obsidian leaf]

Now it's only the Howling Crypts?

[rotund pawn]

Nah you almost never want a melee fight as a caster warlock you do everything in your power to not engage in melee you can do a hybrid build but it’s not worth it you’re losing out on things like BOC can’t have BOC spells and phantom. Melee is really only viable with BOC and then you don’t have phantomize

I’m just gonna stick to my fighter so much easier of a class and makes pvp so simple and easy I fell in love this season 😍

[finite yoke]

Warlock longsword can go crazy, you can't discount it just because you can't pull it off. You can melee when its favorable than phantomize when it gets bad. Just because you don't like warlock doesn't mean it needs a buff.

[rotund pawn]

I’m a longsword fighter haha that’s my bread and butter nothing like hitting a parry just such a huge dopamine rush I’m an addict warlocks just don’t have good pdr or dmg with it like yea it’ll hit things but you’re just playing a worse fighter atp

[finite yoke]

Warlock can take the plate perk and have the same PDR? Warlock works just fine as a fighter with more sustain.

[zealous chasm]

Thye should expand Otto's role in the game, have him wander around the map, untouchable.

[rotund pawn]

Nah the plate anit it for me I hate being so damn slow fighter got that swift perk plus I don’t have a bow so range just cooks me because curse range isn’t bow range and dark bolt is the easiest thing in the game to dodge

[finite yoke]

You could just... go into cover so they can't shoot you.

[rotund pawn]

I mean yea but sometimes you can’t do that and sometimes you lose the advantage in the fight doing that I’m just not of fan of being slow like I said fighter is just the game on easy mode it’s a nice change up from sweaty warlock gameplay

[finite yoke]

Sounds like you're saying fighter needs a nerf rather than Warlock needing a buff, then.

[rotund pawn]

Fighter for sure needs some tweaking imo but I don’t think the community agrees I also don’t play trios so idk how fighter plays in trios I stick to duos mainly little bit of solos but I just said buff warlock to spark a little outrage all I know is that in its current state I’m not touching warlock I’ll stick to my easy fighter

[finite yoke]

Hey, if you don't have the skillset for warlock, thats alright. Glad you admitted you were just doing a little trolling when you said "buff warlock"

[spiral verge]

Hey guys how do I make Druid strong

[rotund pawn]

I mean I wouldn’t say that haha I’m a very good warlock better than the average at least but I’m it’s state rn I refuse to play it and yea basically just trolling but also some truth I just don’t see the class to really be that strong when compared to the other classes like wizard that shit is crazy strong

[finite yoke]

Warlock can be quite strong as a hit and run class. Phantomise and cloth gear make for a great combo regarding that. If you were really a "very good warlock player" you would know that.

[rotund pawn]

That’s All I ran as warlock ms is huge on that class but phantomize really isn’t that strong unless you can break los but even then I just pop sprint and chase them with my bow and land two arrows and the fights over haha

[finite yoke]

phantomise lets you phase though players AND mobs, which is a huge plus, as well as just giving a buff to movement speed. A fighter can't just sprint though a couple of mobs, a warlock can, then can go on to heal off those mobs with ease or use a hydra while the enemy clears them.

[rotund pawn]

I’d say my rank but ranks really don’t mean anything but I got 1200 hours and probably 800 of them on warlock also don’t judge me I got no life

[rotund pawn]

My 4 sec blue bandage heals more than the average hydrain kit now a days haha hydrain is dead and tbh as a fighter main I don’t find mobs to be an issue while facing a warlock I feel it’s very easy to just go around them I’d prefer to face a phantomize warlock over a Kris BOC warlork any day of the week that’s just me tho

[finite yoke]

You can run out of bandages, and its hard to use them while fighting mobs. A warlock will never run out of hydras.
All you need to do is build a few white mag heal gear pieces.

[rotund pawn]

They have to stop and be out of los and mobs can’t be near them and I can totally pop a bandy around mobs in HR also magic healing is awful haha white magic healing gear won’t do anything I’m healing more from my green pot maybe even a white pot lol

[finite yoke]

If you're going in geared you can just build mag heal on movespeed gear, or movespeed on mag heal gear. It becomes stronger if we're talking HR

[rotund pawn]

Eh even at the top of the line magic heal it’s still not great I still cook those warlocks on my fighter and get free expensive gear because for some reason magic heal is still expensive

[finite yoke]

Just because you kill bad warlocks doesn't mean the class is bad. That'd be like me saying I killed a few fighters so fighter is a bad class.

[rotund pawn]

I’m just saying it’s a much harder fight against a wiz than a warlock even higher ranks and especially if both are geared give me a 24 magic healing warlock any day over a geared wiz

[finite yoke]

Nah, once you close distance on a wiz it is an easy kill, they don't have a get out of jail free phantomize. If they try a magic missile, you can just take two steps back and strafe it.

[rotund pawn]

Yea no hahah how you getting close when zap takes a 1/3 of my hp and forget about it if you get hit with a fireball half you hp is gone I don’t even try against wiz but a warlock ez also the get out of jail free card really isn’t that strong because I do more dmg than them at range they can’t heal fast enough when one arrow takes half their hp😈

[finite yoke]

It sounds like you're not building any magic resistance and are then surprised when you take magic damage. A few pieces of MR gear can go a long way.

[rotund pawn]

Nah they still chunk you it’s not worth dropping other stats just for wiz then my builds are less effective against other classes I’ll just run from a wiz or try and hit them with two arrows to kill them

[finite yoke]

Well the wiz has fireball and ice bolt to fight back at range as well. Not as 1 sided as you might think

[rotund pawn]

Ice bolt isn’t to hard to dodge imo fireball is hard if you’re facing a good wizard but if not wiz is super free at range when you deal half their hp in one arrow I rarely kill wizards in melee combat especially since I don’t have a shield to block magic attacks with I love the long sword way too much I can’t give it up no matter how better other builds are

[finite yoke]

Fire ball can also be used for indirect hits as well, your bow cannot.

[stray yoke]

Fire ball travel time is like 3x slower tho?

[vapid frigate]

what you guys think patch tomorrow or friday? im guessing friday

[rotund pawn]

That’s true and good wizards use that to their advantage so it’s kind of hit or miss depending on the skill of the wiz

[finite yoke]

Warlock just has more escape options than a wiz, and a wiz has only so many fireballs, a warlock has unlimited spells.

[rotund pawn]

Yea but their spells don’t deal dmg to me and like I said being an ex warlock player phantomize doesn’t bother me at all I understand how to gain the advantage when they use it

[finite yoke]

And yet you don't know how to use it to gain an advantage, it sounds like.

[wooden spoke]

hey

can i get some help with info about wipes

[rotund pawn]

I mean I do just got tired of dying after it to a max ms rogue haha other than that it’s pretty easy to gain an advantage with but also gives your opponent a chance to get the advantage as well because the only thing you can do is run also idk why you keep attacking my skill haha I’m just saying as a fighter one of the easiest kills I get is on warlocks
@bright lake yes it’s kinda of to do you have to be further back from him and go inbetween I do not recommend tho

[bright lake]

is there any way to dodge warlords knifes without crouching?

[finite yoke]

It just seems like a lot of your complaints are skill related. Even a max ms rogue can't run through mobs, so just run through an uncleared room with phantomise, preferably with mobs in the doorway. Like I said before, you can't beg for a buff just because you managed to kill a few bad players and can't play the class effectively yourself.

[rotund pawn]

Haha I could say the same to you thinking warlocks are actually a strong class haha I’m just saying fighter is 10x easier than warlock

[finite yoke]

Just because you play an OP class doesn't mean you should cry about other classes needing a buff.

[rotund pawn]

Fighter might be OP the community is not ready for that 😂😂

[finite yoke]

Most people agree that fighter is one of the stronger classes right now, you're just huffing copium if you say otherwise.

[rotund pawn]

I think they are the strongest I don’t think alot of people agree with that tho

[finite yoke]

Oh, but they do.

[zealous chasm]

Good reason to stop playing, until they fix the game, it's Fighter's Online right now.

[rotund pawn]

I see wat more people complain about Warlock than fighter I don’t see too many people complaining about fighter

[finite yoke]

I see people talk about how fighter is OP all the time, I have no clue where you are. Maybe you spend all your time in the fighter channel?

[rotund pawn]

Nah mainly Warlock they got the best people to talk to and this channel

[finite yoke]

Okay. Everyone here, thoughts on Fighter?

[candid void]

I play it and it's pretty tanky and good dmg too. Honestly by 225 gs you're already pretty well off. I'm not the greatest at pvp tho lol

[zealous chasm]

Fighter is BAF, can use every weapon in the game, run around naked and stabby stab. It's over.

[rotund pawn]

What’s stronger fighter or Warlock?

[zealous chasm]

Fighter can use...Felling Axe? JC!

[finite yoke]

See, everyone knows that fighter is one of the more OP classes.

[candid void]

Right now I'd say Warlock. I had a damn good kit in high roller and got merked in 4 hits with a kris dagger and demon form. I got alot of hits in and he was about half health

[finite yoke]

And Heathcliff wants a warlock buff because he can't play it well.

[random coral]

Imagine saying warlock is bad 💀

[candid void]

That's honestly a skill issue then. If warlock with kris and demon form can kill fighters and barbs with ease then you know your doing something wrong if you can't.

[rotund pawn]

I never said I don’t play it well 😂 it’s just boring gameplay compared to fighter

[finite yoke]

You said Warlock needed a buff and complained that it was hard to get kills compared to fighter.

[random coral]

I mean, demon form = LIFE STEAL. End of the joke. Even if it consumes hp, it's broken asf to have lifesteal on a game like that

[rotund pawn]

Nah I feel demon is very strong rn but everything else on lock is cheeks demon is very strong

[bright lake]

why did skull keys drop so much in value?

[candid void]

Tbh I think warlock looks alot more fun gameplay wise. Could just be me getting tired of holding right click and hitting between blocks lol

[turbid pine]

they got duped. that was the reason for the emergency hotfix a few days ago

[finite yoke]

I was manipulating the market by buying skull keys at an inflated price, I have now begun selling the keys for cheap. I have a lot of gold so I figured I'd do a little trolling.

[rotund pawn]

Caster warlock is what I played and it’s legit just kiting and is very boring imo I tried demon lock it was fun but I still prefer fighter
@bright lake only down from here

[bright lake]

yall think the values gonna go back up?

[subtle heart]

grinding 100 skulls for the quest is so boring 🛌

[candid void]

Facts. The whole build needs a nerf or a change. Warlock should not be able to do all that. Should need a little bit a spacing and skill lol. Not just hehe stab stab

[rotund pawn]

I agree also same thing with rondel fighter both are very strong but I think demon is even stronger which is hard to do

[violet remnant]

Quick question, does anyone know when the goblin merchant recovers your items? I know they weren't looted.

[candid void]

I don't know much about rondel fighter. Any yt vids on it?

[rotund pawn]

Yea there’s tons extremely strong build extremely broken I dislike it very much but I used it to hit demigod and I’m ashamed to admit it

[random coral]

Agree

[bright lake]

lol its so over

[rotund pawn]

Also it gets expensive my kits were all well over 10k

[candid void]

I meann.. I've been getting pretty tired of dying to all the warlocks lmao. If there is a counter build you bet your ass I'll use it to defend myself while grinding for exemplar

[haughty marsh]

is cyclops bugged? rocks fell when he didnt hit the ground

[rotund pawn]

Nah demon locks still cook your ass demon locks are truly the only threat to a fighter Caster locks die in 3 arrows lol warlocks hard counter is bows trust me they are more scared of a bow than you are of them

[bright lake]

just build true dmg on jewelry and necklace and max health and dex on the other pieces

[candid void]

Valid. Most of em catch up before I can even pull it out lol. but a good longbow shot to the face and I might be able to get away

[rotund pawn]

Gotta get that 75% pdr with 180 hp too

[neon girder]

Yo opinions what’s the most fun class

[bright lake]

ong then u gotta get 3 tapped by a wizard and lose everything 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[rotund pawn]

What do you mean catch up? Caster locks shouldn’t be going into melee at all and demon locks legit the counter is just run never face a demon they have the upper hand make them deal dmg to theirselves

[candid void]

Damn I got 158 health on my fighter and I thought I was pushing the upper limits. I'm also not following any builds tho. @rotund pawn talking abt the demon locks. Running doesn't do much really

[bright lake]

158 health is fine for a 5k kit i ran a similiar health kit rondel fighter today and i was killing juicers

[rotund pawn]

My best build had 198 hp 75% pdr was at like 288 ms and i forget my action speed but I didn’t worry about it too much maybe like 6%? Also only 7 true dmg I couldn’t afford a legendary frost with the rolls I wanted

[bright lake]

godamn is that pdr with shield out or no?

[candid void]

I ran for an entire match against a demon lock and he caught up to me still. And as you know atp kris go stab stab and I'm dead lol

[wet orchid]

if they outrun you, bait out the lifedrain skill then go in after it runs out

[rotund pawn]

With shield I think it was like 68% without my shield when I had my bow out @candid void yea man I still haven’t figured out demon locks I just try and make them waste hp

[bright lake]

close doors

[undone peak]

pre teaming is really ruining my ingame solo experience

ive lost 2 10k+ kits to pre-teaming in 24 hours. teaming in solo's should just be perma ban tbh. or make it so people who are on friends lists with each other cant join each others games.

[rotund pawn]

I’m sorry to hear that brother that does suck. What servers you play on ? I rarely run into teamers in US East but that shit does suck

[undone peak]

us east, i havent seen much this wipe until the past couple days

[rotund pawn]

Ahhh I see that sucks man one of the worse ways to die hope it doesn’t kill your drive to play brother

[undone peak]

seems like such a easy fix to make it where friends cant join each others games. just sends them to another lobby.

[wheat ferry]

I'm ngl I'm annoyed that we need bones again. I've been wasting them on alts

[undone peak]

the punishment for pre-teaming should be wiping your characters to level 1 and any progress. i garuntee people wouldn't do it again

[smoky stirrup]

what quests do i need to do to unlock crossbows on squire?

[wheat ferry]

Woodsman

[solid dew]

So, how do you grind AP as a new player if everyone decides to kill on sight

[turbid pine]

kill em back
HR doesn't have to cater to new players. It's supposed to be the "newgame+" mode

[stray yoke]

Become not a new player

[solid dew]

Are these meme answers or for real? Because its easier to quit a game this frustrating than grind it out tbh

[stray yoke]

You could say that about literally any competitive game with ranked rewards? Obv you wont be rank 1 at 10hrs gametime

edit: yeah what he said LOL vvvv

[turbid pine]

Ranked rewards take time and effort to get in literally any game
edit: yeah what he said LOL

[river jetty]

skill issue

[sour sigil]

I am probs the last one that should be giving advice bc I am still TRASH at the game LMAOO but I would recommend going for treasure (like trinkets and whatnot ) loot higher quality gear, and then slay mobs.. Of course try to kill the players when they push but if you don't feel comfortable, make sure you learn the map so you have escapes planned out yk?

[nocturne walrus]

Love running around to every exit on the map just for them to all be taken. Really good game design and not shitty at all

[solid dew]

In a game where experience and gear have such a massive prominence over how a fight goes. Again I ask, how am I as a NEW PLAYER supposed to survive this? Is this intentional game design? Don't touch HR till you can successfully murder an entire regular lobby by yourself with your eyes closed? 300 hours deep I'd think i'd have some sort of understanding of how to play this game but these last 3 days spent in HR are legitimately ruining the fun for me

[thick basin]

essentially yeah unfortunately. come back to HR when you are comfortable with the map and fighting people that outgear you

[stray yoke]

You learn without high roller, it's that simple - every good player in this game has braved through insufferable deaths early on lmao

You only need to extract ~1/6 times to reach pathfinder and the other ranks are reserved for people who are actually good.

Load into crypts once you're confident with PVE and you'll natually climb from the 1/4 runs you don't run into anyone lol

[maiden crypt]

Does armor pen work on monsters

[solid dew]

Thanks for the advice everyone

[wet orchid]

most monsters already have negative armor rating, so it wouldn't. Armor reduction (not penetration) from stuff like shriek of weakness works though

[thick basin]

only other real advice i can give is maybe try a server thats off hours. people are generally more chill in the middle of the night

[hexed cliff]

All I can really say is that I'm slowly losing will to keep playing this game with the HR gear score requirement. I need to learn those mobs. Doing normals is getting to be a tedious task "just to" have "some stuff" to get in.

From the perspective of a player who is exceedingly PVE but still fights when made to, the fact that "rat/crow" playstyle being the reason for the change just feels like I've been punished for the actions of someone else. I very specifically paid for this game for the ability to play the HR dungeon.

I don't even feel like I /risk/. I pay a hard fee of shit loot for the chance to face that nightmare axe skeleton I won't see in the normal layer until feep inferno

PVP isn't even a concern of mine. I've won fights, I've lost. I just really hate the time between HR runs

[wet orchid]

souds like you should stay a bit longer in normals, just consider HR the "ranked" version of other competitive games like league of legends, where most people don't have fun but it's to show how good you are at the game

[hexed cliff]

No, you don't get it. I don't have fun in normals.

[lost mural]

In the words of the average person here, "skill issue"

This is all anyone here will say in response to anyone else

[stray yoke]

Lol

[hexed cliff]

it's boring, it's tedious, it'st just a bar I have to pass to have a wallet and nothing more

[stray yoke]

Then play normals until you have a fat wallet, and make cash in HR

[hexed cliff]

I did that. When the HR ante was in place, I made 2k and did runs once I had it saved

[solid dew]

The DaD "Here's how to get DemiGod in 24 hours!" vids make this look so easy and chill lmao. How do yall do this

[hexed cliff]

-> oh shit I died -> ok spend some time getting gear together again either with stash, auction, or -> ohshit map rotation changed to goblin caves again -> FINALLY IN -> First mob is the nemesis skeleton I'm trying to learn to fight , both a blessing and curse- > 50/50 on whether I die and get out

Meanwhile,If I run a norm, I don't die, I get loot barely worth the time, I'm not quite skilled enhough to hard push players but I do try since I'm forced to when I don't have cash toget, it's a 20-40 minute sigh-burger of gameplay

In every case except the one where you extract with what you had and go back in, at every economic status and skill ,replaying the HR dungeon has become spaced out by an exponential increases in preptime that the only real argument thrown in my face in support of for is "There SHOULD be in investment"

My question is why does ithave to be Time when I dropped my money on this game in a state when that requeue time was 0

And don't get me wrong, Even while I make this empassioned rant, I'm trying to learn the ice wyvern for SOMETHING TO DO IN BETWEEN HR RUNS THAT ISN"T BORING

[fleet socket]

dungeon recovery isnt working, last 3 deaths i wasnt able to buy anything back, running wyvern in norms, only one in abyss and still not getting anything back, no one looted me

[bright ridge]

I wish there was a pve-like game for DAD. like, just a chill dungeon simulator with friends

[fringe ember]

I just saw a video Abt arena mode is that just a troll or is arena a real thing?

[hexed cliff]

and for clarity on this, I'm very very very specifically talking about the /time between getting into a run/ in HR. Even when I've HAD kits ready , swapping them in and catching the map I want to go into has often been an exercise in dumb frustration

[stray yoke]

Yea idk bro i dont have this issue just work on ur anger management or somethin

[hexed cliff]

imagine video games being fun not frustrating

I can deal with the skill checks, that's not a skill check

[stray yoke]

You're the one making it frustrating for yourself, if you dont like it you can play a different game that doesnt frustrate you lol

[hexed cliff]

IT wasn't frustrating before? I died and went back in? I went broke I knew I could save up ?

[smoky stirrup]

Can they please make longsword parry an actual parry where its more precise and harder to do and not just derr hold right click derr

[thick basin]

if you really want to practice mobs, just go in squire gear with an inventory full of cheap epics. an epic war hammer is 100g

[stray yoke]

You can still do this... you dont need to actually wear the gearscore requirement, just bring in random cheap shit and grey gear

[fringe ember]

Just hit legs or arm it's not that hard

[hexed cliff]

I was one of the first people to say that. Now the game wants me to have 3k not 500 as a warchest to really put in theHR experience grind. And yes, I wvery specifically am needing the experience of map layouts and how to fight mobs that AREN'T in Norms hell

I'm trying to pass my endurance check on HR not Norms now

[modest wharf]

my game crashed and when i try rejoining the match it crashes again

[stray yoke]

3k for what?

[hexed cliff]

any level of cheese including green weapons, up to a full kit in the case of serious pvpers

[stray yoke]

Are you saying you're spending 3k to enter and frustrated you need to re-gear in 3k worth of loot every time?

[hexed cliff]

no. I very specifically just fucking run norms and fill inv and go in because thats just time efficient

[thick basin]

im not really sure what you're getting at. you dont like the new HR requirements but you were ok with the 100g ante before? bring in 3 epic warhammers in your inventory and its basically the same as the old requirement except it costs you like 400g now instead of 100g

[stray yoke]

That's what I'm getting at lol

[hexed cliff]

I was ok with the 100g, because it didn't require me to have anything prepped. I could find it /in/ HR, the stuff I would need to use, and would WANT to use, which would be otherwise uncommon in normals . blues didn't give me any sort of hard edge against anyone., Extracting and just going right back in was fine with me, and I started to have a rhythm of buildup in both experience and gold I was enjoying

It's gone now. I toss it all into just having a run whenI can get it because I very very very much am just .... getting through these normals with slowly dercreasing motivation

[stray yoke]

Okay it's now clear you just want to complain... there is a perfect solution here that is minimal effort - buy 30 war hammers for 100g each, then do exaclty what you did before but move 3 across before you search for your game... if that is too hard for you, this is a you problem not the game

[hexed cliff]

ok so how long would it take you to get 400g from broke?

[stray yoke]

One normal gob cave run, and then I dont go immediately into HR because that would waste all my money instead of building a bankroll

[hexed cliff]

because I can do a 7 min norm and have an hr run, but typically it's two norms. and you've completely ignored my other point of prepping and then missing the map queue due to prep

[thick basin]

if you're going completely broke after a run then you need to rethink your strategy. you could go mine some copper in goblin caves and easily make that much in 1 run or learn troll/cyclops for quick runs

[hexed cliff]

I do do that, and get ganked, and eat my loss, and /am very specifically not complaining about that/

[stray yoke]

Or even just loot up blues and learn what sells, blue rawhide/riveted/lightfoots/longsword/armingsword all sell for 100ea + and that's only a few, green fran axes are 70ea

[hexed cliff]

like you're asking me to simultaneously boss, and bankroll, and have like, wahat, howmuch is enough saved for you for the privilege of an afternoon of only HR runs? the gameplay that was my motivator to pay for this game?

[subtle mauve]

anyone got bugged lich? the homing missile 1 shot is going through walls

[stray yoke]

Yes so what we've figured is that you're specifically complaining about the time it takes you to re-gear now...

As we mentioned earlier, three purchases and you're back in-game.

Always 6k+, sometimes it dips below to 3k just from bad rng but at least you can still run HR

[maiden bough]

i hope the new matchmaking fixes having to wait 3 minutes for matches to start after you join a lobby with less than a minute left in the queue... this shit is so annoying

[dusk patio]

It’s been like that since the warlock patch

[subtle mauve]

Eww...

[dusk patio]

I’m saying and that was the day I went to go fight him!! Another tip it can’t hurt you out side his room cuz you’ll prolly kill him with one on you now

[hexed cliff]

6k? I said some colorful words Irl relating to the pleasuring of oneself. The time it would take to make that would see me having more fun with my current pace, which is already excrutiating

[dusk patio]

Let’s complain about the state of the market!!!

[stray yoke]

Do goblin merchant questline and you will get 6k just from the drops, all doable in NORMAL mode

[hallow cypress]

is there any reason why matchmaking is purely gearscore and not level bracketed or some sort elo system?

[thick basin]

not really sure what to say but sincerely maybe the game just isnt for you. or maybe take a break and come back during the next wipe

[dusk patio]

That’s my struggle I make money on taxing really good items but they aren’t selling any more

[subtle mauve]

Yea I didnt know so was hanging right next to a wall then I saw a purple sfx next to me and got jump scared

Wonder if it can hit you with phantomize

[hexed cliff]

Gonna say it again. My motivating factor toPAY FOR this game was the access to the HR dungeon, in the state it was presented at the time.I tryied to adapt to the change, I have sincererely done as much as I can to enjoy the state of the /gameplay I wish to access/. the Runs I want Are still there, but the game is asking too much to have a steady access to it. it went from /0/ with funding to 3-40 minutes

[stray yoke]

You'd hate to hear what it was like in the past lol, this game has been through countless fked updates just deal with it or wait until it's fixed for you

[hexed cliff]

might as well voice my displeasure in the maentime while trying to longsword chad another nightmare axeman

[ashen hinge]

ty for whoever was teaming in HR solos with ur Cleric and Warlock buddy thinking u were gonna beat me, ty for the free AP. next time dont team in Solo if u aint ready to get robbed

[dusk patio]

It’ll buy you some time but still won’t go away gotta drop it off on a mob

[limpid chasm]

It was bugged before not going through walls. This is how they want it, either run it into enemies or shield it

[dusk patio]

You can block it?!

[bleak cobalt]

Can you kite it back into the lich if all the skeletons are dead

[subtle mauve]

tried it went through the ribcages of the mobs

[dusk patio]

It’s the only way I’ve found…I’ve tried passing it through lich too…haven’t seen it go through him but it definitely should have and I’ve seen the bs if it going through their rib cages too

[drowsy iris]

Are there any quests rewards that persist between wipes aside from the mummy skin, skeleton quest, and goblin dance?

[thick basin]

the collector has a campfire skin too

[merry reef]

Whats the best Rogue playstyle? I've been playing Mosquito but i see sooooo many Landmines

[glossy pagoda]

Why can we not que and find random team mates? instead of if nobody is online been forced to play solo and suffer that experience

[thick basin]

just pure speculation but its probably to curb griefing. your random teammate could kill you and steal all your gear without warning

[glossy pagoda]

True i didnt think of that. they would surely be able to do something to counter that tho. make it bannable and easily reportable maybe

[glossy juniper]

yo why am i sever muted

[flint dune]

anyone else have very slow reactions from server? in just like the menu buying etc? everything takes like sec

[tepid scaffold]

why its lobby interaction sooooooo laggy

[weak ledge]

225 gear score on hr sucks

whats the cheapest way to get in?

[thick basin]

just bring in cheap epic gear

you dont need to have it equipped

[twin shard]

how can i dodge the cyclops stones

[thick basin]

the rock smash phase? its just jump timing. i think jump 1 second after the initial smash then 0.5 seconds for the smashes after

[twin shard]

okay, thanks!

[thorny gulch]

yo what do you guys think is the most effective fighter build with just squire gear? im tryna improve pvp without committing my gold and i just want to find a reliable build to run

[serene remnant]

can you report a player for slurs on voip?

[warm rune]

Best setup for lock skills/perks?

[stray yoke]

depends what ur going for but 20+ magic healing build is pretty sick

Phantomize

Vampirism, Torture Mastery, Curse Mastery, Malice

Curse of Weakness, Curse of Pain, Hellfire, Life Drain, Bolt of Darkness

Can play with the spells a bit

[deep galleon]

Ironmace when Rogue needs a rework:
Ironmace when they think Rogue should get bandaid fixes that don't solve the issue and continue to perpetuate the problem because they don't know WHY Rogue is actually as unhealthy for the game as they are:

[stark flint]

fu*k this imbalanced game. Waste of time.

[drowsy iris]

Hey, now. You need to cool off and rethink things!

[stark flint]

If you mean I need to rethink my gameplay, I have 650+ hours in the game and it's always been like that. Players chase meta and squeese every drop our of streamers builds. There is no place for chill testing. You will meet sweating tryharders almost every game. And if you look into how the devs struggle with balance, it's just a sh*t show.

[stark flint]

If you mean I should rethink my life, I do that every year or two. I'm in a good place. Thank you for the advice. It's a good advice.

[stark flint]

And if you want to sound mature, but in fact you are 16 and repeat words you don't really understand, stop. Grow and mature on your own.

[strong veldt]

Says the one that’s just cried 3 bibles over a game 🧂🧂🧂

[mossy wing]

I highly suggest you maintain respect in the discord.

[stark flint]

Which part of this sentence is disrespectful?

[mossy wing]

"but in fact you are 16 and repeat words you don't really understand, stop" is speaking down on someone's intelligence and telling them to be quiet, no further questions shall be answered. If you have an issue with moderation please contact a Tavern master.

[deep galleon]

What Ironmace should be doing about Rogue instead of bandaid patching them to no effect:
-Rogue's Vigor is increased from 10 to 13.
-Rogue's Agility is reduced from 21 to 18.
-Rogue's Dexterity is reduced from 25 to 20.
-Rogue's Resourcefulness is increased from 20 to 25.
-Dagger Mastery damage bonus is reduced from 15% to 10%.
-Hide Mastery is removed.
-Pickpocket now also increases regular interaction speed by 25% when pickpocketing.
-Thrust armor penetration bonus is reduced from 20% to 10%.
-Traps and Locks now also increases regular interaction speed by 25% when picking locks or disarming traps.
-Hide now has a duration of 20 seconds, but an activation time of 5 seconds and deactivation time of 2 seconds.
-Poisoned Weapon is now a Skill and replaces Rupture, now granting Rogue the ability to poison enemies similar to how the perk version works, but with a duration of 12 seconds.
-Weakpoint Attack now applies a multiplicative reduction in armor rating instead of a flat reduction in armor rating.
-Weakpoint Attack now applies only a 25% reduction in armor rating, but adds 25% headshot damage bonus.

And what they should do about Daggers:
-Rondel and Stiletto Dagger damage is reduced by 2 across the board.
-Rondel and Stiletto Dagger headshot damage is reduced from 150% to 110%.
-Castillon Dagger damage is increased by 2 across the board.
-Castillon Dagger damage bonus is increased from 100%/100%/130% to 100%/115%/130%.

[stark flint]

Ok, I agree.

[mossy wing]

Thank you for your understanding, adventurer

[vapid arch]

bro's back with another terrible take

[deep galleon]

Bro's back with another act of disrespect.

[lucid saffron]

can we remove ranger traps from the game all together yet ? They are such an anti fun mechanic and do absolutely nothing to make the experience better.

[marsh star]

stepping on one is basically just a guaranteed death

[waxen wadi]

does true magic damage stack with magic weapon damage? like for a crystal sword, or staff mastery

[harsh knoll]

anyone else crash?

[dawn musk]

Seems good but some needs some reconsideration

[deep galleon]

Tbh I think reworking Rogue would be their best option. Like a complete overhaul.

[pale tinsel]

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[pure beacon]

With the current changes to healing warlock feels like the worst class rn .. everybody just pots and is back up way to fast + somehow everywhere i go every class has a magic potion

[wraith yacht]

hellfire scaling better with true magical damage or will?

[vapid arch]

now everyone heals as much as warlock so the class is redundant

[fallen bluff]

is there any way to view the market while you’re not in game?

[sick depot]

Warlocks can bring health pots and bandages as well.

[thorn nimbus]

Wha
Ok I dont play rogues but this would really make them useless

[earnest cliff]

does luck increase the chance for skull tokens?

[novel ferry]

does high roller pair Neophytes with ALL Higher tier ranked players too? this is F'ing garbage...

[cobalt belfry]

damn you really hate rogues huh

I'm glad you're not on IM's balance team

Nerf everything, destroy daggers and hide, and give a buff to pickpocket and resourcefulness... brilliant

[flint charm]

Change Agility from 21 to 8? Are you serious

[novel ferry]

FIX HR - ROGUES DIE IN ONE HIT, if you die to a rogue its cause you suck.

[inner beacon]

So these Silver Skull Tokens, they just randomly spawn in chests on every map or?

[green thunder]

Is anyone else experiencing extreme rubber banding of late? I play with my friend and recently Dark and Darker keeps throwing him around (and occasionally me). Our internet connections are okay and we play much more heavy games. Is it a server issue or maybe an issue with the OCE server?

[fiery elbow]

Will, to know how exatly that work, see the base damage of spell, if it's a high number (Like hellfire 60 base damage) scale better with will, if is low damage (Like curse of pain base 7 damage) scale better with true magical damage

[stray yoke]

Each will/magical power is between +10% and +0.5% magical damage bonus

(It’s more at the start, but becomes less potent the more you have)

[teal hearth]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569559/updated-spells-and-perks-my-vision check

[vapid arch]

they tried having hidden MMR and matchmaking based on rank before and it didn't work, people used the system against itself to their advantage

[pure saffron]

I think you should try to play ranger, then you will understand how a good trap placement makes rangers balanced vs Barb, rogue, fighters.
and without it you are left to press "x" and run until they catch you.

[dawn musk]

Does anyone know the stats for skeleton champion skin

[unreal obsidian]

+40% pdr
-15 ms

[shut kite]

anyone else think the cyclops blind is just stupid intense? feels like when I get hit by it- even though I shouldn't be half the time... its like someone just turns my monitor off for like 5 to 8 seconds and I am pretty much dead every time

[novel ferry]

ranks should be GS brackets just like normals. the higher the rank the higher the GS req. i dunno

[vapid arch]

so people go into HR and farm bosses and rank for free with 0 consequence
people complain about getting gear diffed all the time, allowing those players to farm for free will only worsen that gap

[winter marlin]

wat

[calm yoke]

Anyone know when the next wipe is?

Sometime this August?

[vapid arch]

september 6th

[weak path]

Hi m8s, Excuse me i am very new to this Game and to Discord. Can anyone tell me something about the WIPE system they ae using? I started this game about june and pretty much liked it, i started to gather epic and legendary shit and yesterday got my first golden key! Today I am reading its all worth shit, cause they delete all i have aquired even my GOLD and extra STASH for 8 Chars now? Is that real? Then i can go play something else till they release ist someday 2030 to come back?

[vapid arch]

every 3 months the game wipes and you start from a fresh slate, its very common place in the looter extraction genre

[shrewd grotto]

A Question that Has been asked many Times i think How Do i increase The DMG from BLOW of corruption 1. Wich weapon too use? 2. added or True Magic dmg? 3. Will or Magic power/bonus/Pen?

[calm yoke]

Mate, this happens in Rust, too. Players lose EVERYTHING on every favorited server. The best you can do is to suck it up and join the rest of us.

[vapid arch]

wipes are needed for games like this and rust, if servers never wipe all that happens is the top players have every weapon and resource hoarded while everyone else has nothing

[weak path]

thank you guys for your fast answers, i am also new to this genre

[calm yoke]

Exactly! The only thing I'd point out is that it'd suck for the players that grind hard and will kill everybody in the match to gain exp, killing newer players in PvP or just getting started. It's sad to see but maybe they're fixing that.

[vapid arch]

its better to start taking this game seriously when the game wipes on september 6th, anything up until then just try to learn the game so you're in a better place when everyone starts from scratch

[weak path]

i really liked this game but as a solo gamer without some fast farming friends i will fall way back while the pros get everything fast up in no time.... so the wipe does not make any sense to me..... MMR and doin some different lobbies would

[calm yoke]

No worries! Sorry if I was coming off as rude to you @weak path .

[weak path]

no offense taken @calm yoke

[vapid arch]

people that put more time and effort into anything will reap the rewards, its just how things work
this game or genre isn't meant for a casual audience but if you enjoy the game casually that's fine, just don't expect the devs to make major changes for you

[weak path]

i mean it took me about 150 hours to get some legendary equip and be proud of it, good players get it what? in 3-4 runs in trio?

[calm yoke]

Most of it is based off of something called "Gear Score," which means the rarity of your loot will change who your going up against in lobbies. Currently <25 is for beginners, 25-124 is intermediate, and 125> is experienced. Again, the Gear Score/MMR is a little busted for the first few days, but I guess thats why there's High Rollers. which is a whole different level of higher experience and costs like 100 gold to get into each match. So you gotta be careful with that.

[vapid arch]

which is exactly why they need to wipe
if they didn't wipe you as a new player would be facing people that have been farming legendary BIS gear since last august
you would not have a fun time

[calm yoke]

Although, recently, I've run into some trio matches who kill right off the get-go, not even two minutes. It's weird since nobody would have good gear or loot then.

[vapid arch]

the less people in a lobby means the less likely you are to die, they're either killing them for their gear or killing them for their own safety
or they just want to pvp

[calm yoke]

Again, understandable, but that wouldn't be great for newer players (or people who suck at PvP to begin with, like myself 🤣 😅 )

[weak path]

@vapid arch yeah but they will get the items faster by now with their teams.... so the time GAP between gaining max gear gets shorter and there is no wipe which could prevent that? So in essence the wipe is not as effective as putting pros with high MMRs in other lobbies? And still enough High end players

the wipe just lets me start again with a bunch of really nasty pros? 😦

[calm yoke]

I don't know about that. It'd just make matches quicker for them to get through the levels and get better gear. For some, its annoying, but others can find the challenge inviting. It's all about adapting.

[vapid arch]

i don't know what you're saying, but MMR has been tested before and it didn't work
the best system they've made so far is what's in right now with gear brackets in norms while having a gear requirement in HR

[weak path]

but why are so many level 400+ players playing in lobbies with me?

[calm yoke]

Yeah, but even then, it doesn't keep high-level/experienced players from wiping out the newer players making baby steps. They just get into lobbies and switch out their good gear from other characters.

[vapid arch]

any time you implement a system that affects lobbies and matchmaking like MMR there's always a way for people to exploit it too
in the past they've split up lobbies based on over and under level 15 as well as over and under a certain rank in HR
both instances people just created new characters and traded their gear over to farm lobbies easier

[vapid arch]

read the above, and like i said gear score in normals is the best thing they have currently
even if you fight an experienced player you're on the exact same footing in terms of gear, and even though skill and game sense matters more you're probably going to learn faster by fighting people that are better than you
there's only so much they can or need to do in order to cater towards new and casual players

[weak path]

It still feels like a weird way to seperate them from early steps ppl, but thank you guys for the talk, its kinda nice getting others impressions on it

[calm yoke]

That's fair. Ig that makes sense. Hopefully, though, they might make MMR based on the account/profile in Steam. That could divide which players are new and old from clashing with one another. But that's just my quick take on it. I'm no genius when it comes to game development. 😅

[weak path]

WAIT WTF all items means my cool 7 Gold coin BAGS wipe too right???

[calm yoke]

Yes. When they mean everything, they mean EVERYTHING. Just the characters themselves will stay. Every character will reset to Level 1 and start with base kits.

[weak path]

RIP -.-

how often do they wipe?

[vapid arch]

3 months

[mystic glade]

So I have a question about reporting pre-teaming. If one gets rolled by 2-3 people in solo's, how is one supposed to know if they pre teamed or teamed mid game and report it in the appropriate circumstance? im really confuzed on this, it seems impossible

[vapid arch]

just report anyway and they should be able to tell with backend data or something

[weak path]

Thank you guys again for beeing very informative, pleasant and not toxic! Seems to get fewer these days....

[mystic glade]

I feel like it should just be disallowed across the board no? unless Iron mace has backend access to peoples private discords lol

[vapid arch]

i imagine they'd be able to tell by seeing how often they get into the same games with each other and how often they team in those matches
banning teaming entirely would result in weird situations where if there's multiple teams in one room they'd have to just draw straws on who fights who

organic teaming also runs the risk of the random guy you trust just killing you and taking all your stuff as well

[mystic glade]

nws, thanks for clarifying,it still feels weird tho, if 5 solo players in a battle royale meet, they dont draw straws, they just fight until 1 guy remains lol

[unreal obsidian]

Finally finished the royal gems quest.. found 3 gems in normal inferno without luck kits or potions..

[vapid arch]

i know, but what i mean is that all 5 people can't fight the other 4 at the exact same time
in some capacity two or more people are going to attack one guy at once which could be perceived as teaming

[mystic glade]

but wouldn't they then spectate and see that they are now fighting eachother and therefore not teaming, or in the other direction see they are peaceful with eachother and are teaming? p.s not trying to stir anything, its just interesting to me as ive not seen any other games have this issue as bad as it is in DnD

[weak path]

@All can anyone show me how to kill the cyclops?

[vapid arch]

look up youtube videos

[potent vale]

Swing at it until it dies

[weak path]

yeah its kinda like he swings and i die XD

[past robin]

Inconsistently every few months

[weak path]

i watched the ryan6days thing but i think i have not the right positioningi always get dirt in face.... i hope its dirt

[trim umbra]

anyone think barb needs a nerf? just curious

[potent vale]

Next wipe is coming up September 6th right?

[shut kite]

all you can do is keep trying and keep improving- going to take time

unless you go in with a team of trios and beat it with a team who knows what they are doing but if you are a solo player like me expect a lot of trial and errors(deaths)

and yes, the dirt is annoying.. I can't see anything and almost always die if I get hit by it

[weak path]

which class is best to kill him?

[shut kite]

anything with good mobility and some defense? fighter, barbarian, bard, rogue

I am trying to do it on Wizard because its my only character and I can only take three hits before I die and go back to the lobby so not much room for error

[weak path]

@trim umbra my opinion a definite pvp nerf, i get constantly hunted by them as new player, and they are the only ones never talking or helping just PVPing

[old moat]

Haven't played in a while, how is game balance now between different classes?

[ruby fossil]

I still die to things so the balance is dog shit

[past robin]

Talking or helping???

[past robin]

Skill issue most likely

[ruby fossil]

Nope if it kills me it's op if I use it it's skillful and balanced

[past robin]

Skill issue

[woeful plume]

Do you think they'll ever bring back the collector's edition for purchase, now that DD is on Steam??

[ruby fossil]

Do you know who I am??? I would never die to something balanced BUDDY

[past robin]

Yes you would, skill issue

[woeful plume]

Are people supposed to know who you are? Because I have no idea. Are you important to IM?

[ruby fossil]

Yes I am VERY important I am what they would call "that guy"

[woeful plume]

Ok, just checking. I figured since literally no one has heard of you or knows who you are that you're just another Discord chatty person.

[past robin]

Youre like a mouse whos cinvinced hes a lion

[ruby fossil]

Spelling error gg

[woeful plume]

Most of us who are fluent in 'typo' wouldn't feel the need to point that out. gg

[past robin]

Didnt think someone high and mighty like yourself was bothered by such small things. You really are all bark

[ruby fossil]

It saddens me deeply to see people commit such atrocities when it comes to the English language

[past robin]

skill issue

[ruby fossil]

Says you pssht pssht pssht

[past robin]

Nah youre actually weird

[ruby fossil]

What did I do mang I'm just having a peaceful discussion on my favorite discord with my best bud

[errant hamlet]

You dont complain every 2words, such a weird Guy herr

[ruby fossil]

it's so over I never realized

[errant hamlet]

You dont belong here
Now u do

[ruby fossil]

chat can we nerf warlock

[rare oracle]

No healing in phantomize and class is balanced imo

[night quarry]

Do demon bats spawn in very specific rooms of hell? I haven't been able to find any for my Tailor quest

[turbid pine]

Yeah. They only spawn in Waiting Room (Layout 1) and Demon Mouth/Blood River(Layout 2)

[night quarry]

Thank you so much

[turbid pine]

(for where those rooms acutally are on the map, it's middle-right, top-right, and top-left respectively)

[rare oracle]

Your first character is wizard? That’s is tough man! Easier to learn game on fighter to start, but if you do stick with wizard, magic missle and meditate will be your friend for clearing pve

[languid ferry]

Hows everyone doing today?

[turbid wren]

I'm off all next week. One day closer to vacation.

[languid ferry]

Congrats! Vacations (or staycations) are beyond exciting

[shut kite]

I played my first day as a fighter, got bored of it really quickly- tried bard for 3 or 4 days, didn't like the whole meta strategizing surrounding it

now I am on wizard and going strong, think I have had this character for 11 days and I am still yet to finish the quest which is "kill a wizard" and the one for "kill a cleric" because there are either none ever online or they kill me the instant I find them haha

[dim cloud]

What's the outplay to Ice Hounds? I can't find anything online, unless you're a speed build I don't see how you're supposed to dodge them consistently.

[languid ferry]

Run screaming. Itll help

[dim cloud]

I thought so, ty.

[dawn musk]

Whats ice hound

[languid ferry]

In all honesty. I have no idea.. I often stand on a chest or something. I find their attack pattern super fast and the last attack of the chain is hard to dodge.

[shut kite]

yell at me if this is against the rules or something but Notlikethis has youtube video guides on every mob in the game and how to beat/dodge them

can't recall the ice hound strategy he recommends but I do know its mentioned in the ice caverns video

[languid ferry]

In Ice Abyss. They are death machines

[rapid vapor]

You can just kite them and stab them in between attacks. You can also try dodging their attacks because their hitboxes are actually pretty small, but I really don't recommend it

[rare oracle]

Respect for sticking with it. And agreed. Bard requires too much mini game haha. I’d suggest watching some guides from cng blade to improve your wizarding. But at the end of the day it’s a glass cannon, taking hits isn’t forgiving! Gl gl

[shut kite]

I haven't even bothered going to the icy abyss yet after almost playing for 2 weeks, still trying to master and figure out the crypt abyss or inferno whatever it is

[languid ferry]

Good way to do it. Do Inferno until you can get out every time 🙂

[shut kite]

yeah I am nowhere near solo farming the bosses in the inferno but I am making it out alive more than I am dying now which is great 🙆‍♀️

[rare oracle]

I’d imagine 95% of the player base or more of wizard doesn’t have inferno bosses on farm solo. Not easy

[ebon tundra]

does anyone else agree that daggers need to be nerfed?

[past robin]

Warlock struggling rn actually

[zealous chasm]

So...over coffee, we had a discussion.
What is the point of playing this game?
Do we get anything out of it?
Are we being paid for our time that could be used productively somewhere else.
We like pay!

[balmy kindle]

if you become a streamer you can be paid for your time :D

[zealous chasm]

Most don't make enough on it to get by.
It doesn't have a health plan.
There is no retirement plan either.
Sounds like a bad deal.

[delicate sierra]

what class should i go for just got back into the game

[echo granite]

Is there a way to get into HR without dropping loads of money to get to the 225 gs

[limpid moth]

Guys for the Seasonal Achivements is solo play and duo rewards linked or seperate and you can get double the rewards if you finished both?

[keen perch]

Buy 3 cheap blue 2 hand weapons

[echo granite]

Double axe?

[keen perch]

Prices change daily. Check.

[drowsy creek]

servers lagging? cant sell stuff to merchants for some reason

[keen perch]

The staffs are cheap, the zewihandrer is cheap. They used to be 40-50 each. Now people are buying them for HR so they go up to $100 each

[woeful plume]

Dungeon restrictions need to go. It's just silly.

[pale crag]

I hope they remove rockfall phase or rework it to not be rng on Cyclops. The game already throws so many obstacles in your face, that to essentially have the fate of your kit and run be out of your hands should you decide to boss is ludicrous.

[rare oracle]

Have you tried the hybrid plate life drain build. Kinda sick. Endless heal. Still have dark bolt and curse range. And you are in fulll plate with a halbard.

[alpine sand]

I've picked the game up again after playing the open alpha tests, and recently I've been getting my ass handed to me. I get some decent armor and helmet, but some naked dude comes around with throwing knives and picks me off without breaking a sweat. Is just the meta now throwables? I've tried doing so, but I feel like I am missing the obvious. Anyone have any advice?

How long has that been the case? I feel like that's an obvious thing to notice

[rare oracle]

Where are you seeing this? I assume under 25 ?

[alpine sand]

I am seeing this in both >25 and <25

[past robin]

hydra is just a slightly faster normal heal, its still a static heal unlike TM

[alpine sand]

I'm trying out just bringing a bow/crossbow with me as I play fighter to combat it, and it's not too bad of a counter

I was also gonna say this, they need to rework the gear score system at some point. Here's why:

I go into a game with roughly 5 gear score with a base kit, nothing fancy or new; but I am still playing with guys with plate-armor, stacking like 15 potions in their inventory. I know magic stuff raises it a shit-ton, but I feel the smaller stuff should also bump that score up, and if it already does then it needs to be increased. Since I think below 25 should be the lowest of the low.

I could also just be dog-shit, which is the most likely answer

[signal sundial]

Healing items are slow, if you are having problems running into guys option stacking and losing because of it, then you need to improve you PVE skills because you can clear everything without taking damage

[zealous chasm]

Well...
All that gear is white, they bought Common gear from the market.
All those pots and bands are free, when you play many games and don't use them all, they start to stack up as each match you visit the Squire and he gives you new ones/more.
So you just need to use the Squire for free pots.
Escape with some loot, and buy Common gear.

[signal sundial]

Gear score is more about an item that gives you an immediate advantage in combat

[rough whale]

empty lobbies in normal 125+ and hr gc lol

[worn nova]

Damn, can't connect to the game. Also can't connect to voice channels in discord

[limpid moth]

Guys for the Seasonal Achivements is solo play and duo rewards linked or seperate and you can get double the rewards if you finished both?

[dark thorn]

Hi, looking for suggestion or help from community. Running most of time 2 man, what ideal hero would be? Currently running Fighter and Cleirc or Fighter and Warlock. Second week in game

[tidal fern]

whats the best perks for wizard?

[misty harness]

it depends on your game style u have

[tidal fern]

whats the meta rn

[fleet creek]

5 second surgicals makes a lot of sense

[quaint heron]

hello everyone. can any warlocks explain when i should be using curse of pain vs power of sacrifice?

[edgy glacier]

If you are using Torture Mastery you would want to use both as they return HP to you when put on an enemy.

[quaint heron]

@edgy glacier i was under the impression that they dont stack is that right or wrong?

[edgy glacier]

They do stack, but if you use it in they do get 15 Str and 15 vig for 12 secs but return HP to you every sec. Power of Sacrifice that is

[quaint heron]

oh wow that makes it better then. i figured once i sacrificed an enemy my curse of pain would disappear. thank you

[edgy glacier]

No Problem. Good luck. Also make sure to use gear that has some Magic Healing as that is how to scale the healing effect on Torture Mastery spells.

[quaint heron]

ill check it out. im still not comfortable enought to leave <25 ha

[edgy glacier]

hehe no problem, squire gear Occultist Hood and Mystic Gloves give Magic healing

[random sinew]

Whites and greys and little or no effect on gear score. If they brought in green potions, bandages, etc. they would be over 25 very quickly. Just stock up on em too. Cheap expense.

[rare oracle]

Yeah I mean if they are naked. And hard to catch. Shoot them with something they are low armor? Though I admit I don’t play a lot of under 25s outside farming troll. So I’m not as familiar.

[lofty smelt]

Rapier should absolutely have a parry, it's a fencing weapon

[slate walrus]

anyone know why lantern shield has weapon damage and how that works?

[rare oracle]

That would be fun

[burnt pier]

i love waiting around for the map to change...

[atomic flame]

its 3 minutes max you will live

[modern niche]

If i have same account on 2 platforms, how can i only make it be on 1? im trying to swap 2 accounts across 2 platforms, steam and epic games.

[burnt pier]

its 6+, not including waiting in pregame. if you think games should be ok with their players doing nothing for that amount of time i dont know what to say

[subtle heart]

Shield parry

[atomic flame]

why you lying bro i play the game too its literally 3 minutes plus 90% of the time the pre lobby is instant. complaining just to complain bro. yknow tarkov is 10 minutes minimum

[wind crown]

While I try to walk sometimes my character starts stuttering and I am getting stuck for a place where I am for an half a second. Is it because of a client sided or server sided problem. This is starting to get real frustrating

[slate walrus]

what is that?

[steel dragon]

can t wait for warlock to be nerfed into the ground lmao

[burnt pier]

you cant math well huh? its 3 maps, you have to wait thourgh 2, each being 3+.. are you being intentionaly dense? .. and tarkov is not ok with it being 10 minutes either you dufus

[subtle heart]

Hold out ur block, when your shield gets hit instantly press right click again and you will do an attack.

[worthy hedge]

anyone got a guide to where all the secret chests are in the crypts and the marvelous ones the wiki isnt showing where the levers are either

[slate walrus]

wow i didnt know that. thats crazy

[atomic flame]

nope guess again 99% of the time after you get out of a game you only have to wait for one rotation

[burnt pier]

there you go mathing again, 99% LOL 33% chance you have to wait 6 minutes.

[worthy hedge]

guys why am i not getting 1000 ap in voyager is it because im not killing enough enemys or something

[open badge]

where are golden key and skull key rooms locations?

[nova garnet]

You playing on antarctica server or what? Cuz nobody has the same problem like u

[burnt pier]

i didnt realize simple math was hard for people, my bad

[atomic flame]

i didnt realize waiting a few minutes was so hard for people, my bad, hop off tiktok or sum homie

[upper wren]

Are you guys ap grinding on ice caves or crypts

[nova garnet]

Skull room is in inferno on the bottom center of the map, but only in one module. Golden room is in the south east, same as skull room only in one module.

[open badge]

golden key is on inferno as well?

[nova garnet]

nah, normal crypts and both only in HR

[burnt pier]

its poor design. why make players not play for any amount of time more than they should. but its fine. im now aware im talking with people who think 1/3 = 99%.

[atomic flame]

nope its not guess again, they did it for a reason, if you dont understand why then you got bigger problems homie

[slate walrus]

its probably to make sure games get filled quick

[atomic flame]

bingo, this guy knows how to think

[gritty crescent]

hey is anybody else's main menu really laggy?

[high sapphire]

dude why do people play fiughter when they just run away with a bow? not even slayer just longsword fighters never wanna fight its so annoying

[vapid arch]

move speed meta and buff to heals means everyone perma kites

[high sapphire]

yeah its so cool

[native olive]

is there a way to see KDA in HR?

[vapid arch]

lobby - player statistics on bottom right - HR maps

[noble stirrup]

I just found out that almost a year ago I took too many bong rips, came up with the idea of a co-operative dragon fight in a new map that would force teams to work together for the duration of the boss fight and then fight over the loot, left it in the suggestion page, and forgot about it.

Tfw you accidentally invented the original concept for frost wyvern and then forgot about it and you still haven't even attempted a frost wyvern fight because you just barely killed the lich the first time😂

[maiden girder]

They should add a cop miniboss and a brick utility item

[brazen finch]

i tried playing with a bow but there were more situations i would prefer longsword because i like it more, so i changed it for a melee perk

[brazen finch]

I was in the abyss for like a third time and heard someone fighting wyvern, so i was curious and wanted to help and got instantly yeeted in the abyss’s abyss

[bitter coyote]

anyone getting frame drops on the new patch?

[odd moth]

does holy purification work on demon mobs?

[bitter coyote]

nope

[leaden carbon]

bruh these spawn locations are ass

[atomic flame]

sorry about that

[glad rock]

Can you please fix the reporting system, this is the 3rd time in two days I've been team killed and lost all my gear, once again people do it because there really isn't any deterent or punishment, I had it yesterday doing HR with some random and he starts hacking at me while I'm sitting at a campfire then to top it off he reported me and I was the one with the red name, I clicked the icon for reporting him and he just had a white normal name, so I get teamkilled and I'm the one punished, seriously sort it out, this bloody community is horrible ngl

[twin ore]

Do we know something about skeletton champion skin please ?

[atomic flame]

what?

[buoyant dragon]

Can you report players for extreme toxicity in /w chat ?

[twin ore]

Pathfinder reward

[atomic flame]

yeah i know, i dont understand your question, if you mean do we know the stats, no we arent the devs

[twin ore]

225 GS thing is annoying for me

[chilly pike]

Yeah here at #in-game-reports

[short socket]

Anyone getting extreme stutters? 2 games in a row in abyss my game has gone to 0 frames for a few seconds

[narrow dock]

Yes the game has been stuttering/lagging a lot for me for the past 2 days.

[short socket]

Yes it needs fixing asap loosing a full kit and an inv of treasure in abyss is beyond tilting

[glad rock]

Thank you, I didn't have that option until I joined the channel now

[jagged yarrow]

Anyone else have absolutely game-breaking lag that ends up in you getting full-zero without being able to move out of a single spot? Happens to me way more than it should, and only in this game

It's not a stutter on my end, I get frames, I just get rubberbanded nonstop

[short socket]

read 2 messages above

[leaden carbon]

I hate barbs, all they do is make the game harder. I will be chilling in a room waiting for the portal to appear, only for a barb with an ungodly amount of skellies to run past and aggro them all on me

[narrow dock]

I'm playing on the east coast servers. I think they've had issues for the past few days: constant stuttering/ 1-2 second delays.

[turbid wren]

Pied Piper Gaming

[jagged yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pied-piper-gif-18164155

[atomic flame]

thats bard not barb

[jagged yarrow]

toot toot

[lean crown]

bardarian

[bitter coyote]

yes bro

[rigid tartan]

Jank and Janker is janky? Whaaaaat?

[narrow dock]

I just restarted and changed settings to test. I bought potions from the alchemist and there was a 2 second lag before it registered. Anyone else having this level of lag on east coast servers?

[vapid arch]

lol

[wise cipher]

is there any cannon lore written anywhere to read?

[vapid arch]

in the quests

[glad pasture]

Do we have an idea of what the next big updates for the game will be?

[wise cipher]

sept, look Coutdown in leaderboard

[jagged yarrow]

alpha test of arena, sorc alpha test

[jagged basalt]

are servers down?

[crude sinew]

whats the best rouge build rnn?

[vapid arch]

trading all your gear over to bard is the best build

[sharp kettle]

anyone getting bug on wizard when u pull out 2nd weapon and u cant switch nor loot nor pop potions or run?

[shut kite]

I had a similar bug but it turned out it was because I had a connection issue

Could try dying and going back to lobby, alt + f4 and reconnect?

[pliant vine]

Anyone else bummed that the collectors box is already sold out, I just came home from work and seen the announcement, went to buy and can't wtf

[crude sinew]

xD

[leaden carbon]

It would be cool if we had scavs in DaD.

[craggy kiln]

YO WE SHOULD VOTE TO REVERT THE ITEM MOVEMENT SOUNDS BACK TO NORMAL✅ check this mark

[rotund yarrow]

i really dont enjoy new trap placements lol almost certain that spike trap wasnt there before pathc

[pseudo fern]

Why are all the sweats in under 25 lobbies now…

[limber verge]

end of wipe and people are bored

[whole terrace]

leveling to 20

[shut kite]

yeah, no losing gear and thats where all the new players are so its easy for the higher tier players to go in there and just kill new players- probably drive a bunch of casual players away too

nobody is going to pick up the game to try out or play with their friends, get absolutely destroyed by a spawn rushing pro 14 seconds into the game and decide its a good idea to keep playing when they only have a few hours a night to play a game

[leaden carbon]

I hate bard sweats. I'm new to the game and I'm just trying to learn, only for some bard to come around and kill me

The same room on every goblin caves map has a bard sweat camping the extract

[shut kite]

the worst part is the disproportionate amount of players on classes

for me in the AU servers, about 60% of the lobbies are all Barbarians now

at least in the <25 gearscore lobbies- because they are just so overpowered at that tier of the game

can fold basically any class except another barbarian or a fighter with full armour on

[devout ivy]

basically my experiance so far 😐

Ive started taking Hide again so I can go invis at the start of game.

[vapid arch]

the game or genre isn't meant for a casual audience

[leaden carbon]

Due to work and other shit, I can only play two hours a day. I'm not wasting those precious two hours on a game where there are Timmy stompers actively blocking my progression

[shut kite]

makes sense, just seems kind of odd is all

eventually those who do play will get bored and quit and with no new players coming in it seems like a slow death sort of deal

[leaden carbon]

I would love a game mode with only bots, it'd be great for people to learn how to play and actually get some experience

[shut kite]

happened to SA Matra KOTH on Arma 3, happened to PUBG, even happening to EFT now- they even had to fold and put a PvE mode into the game

[ebon palm]

that's where the best pvp is tbh

[shut kite]

yeah the game definitely has potential for a PvE focused mode- but if it isn't in the developers vision it may not go that route

it would just divide the player base in half and the game would eventually lose its entertaining value if you aren't constantly facing new and interesting player opponents

[leaden carbon]

I wish your level effected gear score. Timmy stomping would be thwarted

[thick basin]

personal opinion but i think a PVE only mode would get stale fast because look how fast people breeze through content when there's PVP enabled. taking out PVP would just speed that up even faster

[dawn musk]

why did it take 200 ap when it says it takes 100 ap on wanderer 3

[soft eagle]

Is anyone else lagging excessively on the menu or is it just blacksmith launcher

[shut kite]

yeah the PvE content would take hours to complete instead of days or weeks

naturally it would only take someone who knows how to play the game days or hours even to finish the PvE content but for new players who get murdered by more experience players every match it takes quite a bit longer

[elfin fern]

market/menu servers seem to be borked yes

[rotund pawn]

Each map takes different amounts of ap your prob looking at goblin caves

[soft eagle]

Which launcher do you use brother?

[gritty flume]

game's been out how long and goblin mage projectile still spins around you and doesn't disappear perma tracking

[elfin fern]

steam

[dawn musk]

ice

[restive locust]

Does anyone know if solos, duos and trios AP progression gives you a gold bag each, or is it just 1 per character

[lone helm]

how to unlock wizard chat

[soft eagle]

thanks man I wanted to know if there's was any difference I'm still using blacksmith

[hoary narwhal]

when I swap my melee to my hands in air I still get a decent debuff cause my weapon takes longer to stash away. swapping it to the torch removes that debuff in ms much better. Isnt this kinda shitty

[ruby helm]

Anyone else having connection issues with the server? I keep getting errors and have to restart my game

[rotund pawn]

Yea I’ve carverns take the most ap of the 3

[fair marsh]

People just refuse to counterplay it idk

[slender chasm]

honestly definitely depends what map you enjoy playing the most as well

[whole terrace]

There is no reason to bring loot into the dungeon before they nerf wizard. IM is a disgusting freak company

[idle snow]

did they disable the ability to turn in quest items from the shared stash?

[solid plaza]

i dont think i touched ground after wizard started shooting balls at me

[odd chasm]

Wipe is sep 6th right?

[grim snow]

what makes wizard so much more powerful than other classes?

[boreal sky]

Game froze and crashed, never made it in to lobby. When i rebooted and asked to join game to get my gear i clicked yes, but was never able to connect. Lost a BIS set. Any chance to get gear back? @zinc sparrow

[grim snow]

EXACT thing happened to me two days ago. lost 2K in gear because game wouldn’t load or let me reconnect.

[rocky lagoon]

anyone know what the emote is from the coffee box

[old tree]

surely there will be a way to unlock the rainbow torch since its 2x brighter than any other lightsource in the game

[vapid arch]

considering people donated money to a charity for it probably not

[wind venture]

So you just need to split up the gold skulls for more AP right?

[old tree]

weirdest instance of p2w of any game lmao (its just annoyingly bright compared to normal torches)
Couldn't they just donate all store proceeds from it to the charity? I thought it was from a twitch event (I don't use twitch so I didn't even try to get it)

[lofty smelt]

I am once again asking for Rapier to have a parry so double jump rogue can adopt an Inigo Montoya playstyle and actually be fun

[whole terrace]

once again asking for the game to be fun

[cedar forge]

can clerics please get 1 crossbow to use and just make smite melee only. they have zero range and just get merked

[lofty smelt]

Honestly, double jump rapier rogue is some of the most fun I've had in a while. I try not to take it too seriously since I can't really deal with stuff like pdr fighter or >lmao anything cleric

[old tree]

As a former cleric main the class would be insufferable if it also had range (Kind've like warlock has been for months 🙂 )

[cedar forge]

every class truly can outperform cleric, their perks are garbage or pve based. the good ones got gutted too which is just sad.

I can only win fights when the opponent severely misplays.

[old tree]

Well it was only like a month ago they were incredibly broken, and you should still win 50% of fights by default

[lofty smelt]

What planet are you on brother? Cleric is fantastic

It's just S tier now instead of Cleric tier lmao

[old tree]

We should devote more community outrage to firing the developer that designs warlock and telling the UK police they made unsavory facebook comments

[cedar forge]

why play cleric when bard exists lol.

[vapid arch]

survival bow funny

[old tree]

What cleric build are you playing that you're finding it impossible to win any fights?

[rare oracle]

You killed my father. Prepare to die.

[lofty smelt]

This guy gets it

[half pike]

does anyone know when the next wipe is? Aprox?

[vapid arch]

6th september

[cedar forge]

I'm not finding it impossible, they just zero counterplay against range unless you hold a corner and camp it. every class besides barb arguably has legit range that pdr smite clerics can't really fight and judgement is just bad rn.

[fathom goblet]

is there a fast way to level up in triumph levels?

[old tree]

Are you finding that you W key stat check any melee class and are just dying to rangers and wizards and warlocks and thus have strengths and weaknesses or nah

[rocky lagoon]

extract

[leaden carbon]

If I had a nickel for every time I killed skellies to help a cleric, crouched several times (universal sign of peace), put away my weapon, and still died, I would have 2 nickels

[fathom goblet]

do i need to have kills loot or som?

[marble yoke]

anyone getting kicked off server?

[shut kite]

leaving the match via an exit is the way to get exp, so pick and play class that is strong and hard to kill- like barb or fighter

[rocky lagoon]

go deeper and extract

[fathom goblet]

aight

[chilly viper]

patch today or tomorrow

[fluid thunder]

I don’t know

[leaden carbon]

I have issues with pve so I play ranger, the best pve class. I now am having issues with pvp because ranger is the worst pvp class

[cedar forge]

I only play around doors for pvp or high ground for barbs. they just need more than what they have. 4 weapons and only 2 are worth. 3 cleanse options and only 1 is worth. holy aura is just bad.

[fallen shuttle]

lightfoots and loose trousers need to be druid ranger rogue only.

[cedar forge]

copper Lightfoot op 25-125

[narrow sand]

do you get to keep rented stash spaces until the end of wipe?
also are rented stash spaces shared?

[rare oracle]

Ranger is one of the best pvp classes

[leaden carbon]

Only if you sneak around

[wet orchid]

ranger is really good in solos and duos pvp

[rare oracle]

Nah build some move speed and dex. Some ap. That backstep and the pushback shots. Class goes incredibly hard

[rapid vapor]

Stash tabs are per character and last until wipe

[left zealot]

This is still an issue, or rather it's now doing it for me when it wasn't before lol "Fixed an issue where characters existing on page 2 would not be displayed at the top of page 1 even if they were recently logged in."

[rain plaza]

adventurers BEWARE! today I crossed paths with this riff-raff (known DUPER of rare spellbooks) deep in the goblin caves. I caught him RED-HANDED trying to sell his duplicated wares to the goblin merchant in a desperate attempt to curry favour. report him to the IRONMACE authorities and HEED my warning!

[fallen shuttle]

op period bro, they need to hire someone with competence and experience in competitive balancing

[narrow sand]

I beg your deepest pardon?

[left zealot]

You keep them until wipe, and no it's not shared

[rain plaza]

you know what you did.

[sour cloak]

best class for easy solo high roller farming?

[late venture]

Probs warlock but I go in as barb for the pvp. Warlock for chill farming time tho.

[rare oracle]

Warlock fo sho. Druid you never gonna die to pvp. And bard is very effective but obv annoying doing all the song uptime.

[rotund pawn]

Buff warlock this patch!

[vapid arch]

they've been strong for 2 wipes, no

[rotund pawn]

But I want them buffed 😭

[tall drift]

anyone else open the game to having ZERO characters?!

[carmine granite]

yo could someone do the cyclops for me? i got the one-eyed foe quest, i can solo it on rogue but cant on ranger can someone help?

[vapid arch]

how can you do it on rogue but not ranger

[carmine granite]

double jump, cant really get the timing been doing it for so long without double

[languid ferry]

Did you switch launchers? If not I recommend contacting https://www.darkanddarker.com/support/contact

[vapid arch]

crouch jump 1 second after he slams the ground in first phase and 0.5 seconds in the second phase, easy

[carmine granite]

i know, i been trying like so many times without but still cant grasp it

[left zealot]

Cheaters can now shoot through doors and go through them without opening them? Too bad it didn't record because I saw someone do that while leaving to lobby :/

[tall drift]

all i had to do was relaunch it! thanks though!

[languid ferry]

Thats always the first step. Sorry. Glad you fixed it 🙂

[carmine granite]

u can shoot thru the small windows in doors

[left zealot]

they were shooting at the corner of the door and also walked through the door

[vapid arch]

the physics is really specific in this game, you can shoot through any small hole

[left zealot]

as I said they also walked through the door

[vapid arch]

sounds like a druid with a bow to me

there's also sometimes a bug when you destroy a door its still there visually just not as an object

[worn nova]

is there any fix for the server connection issues?

[cerulean mantle]

Fix selecting duos and then being forced into trios, please

[languid ferry]

#the-tavern message Please read the last message I sent.

[restive wing]

just did it nvm^^

[rocky lagoon]

so all keys dropped in price, did all gold storage things (gold bags, gold chests, etc) also drop heavily?

[vapid arch]

all gold sinks drop in price approaching wipe

[winged osprey]

giant centipede hits wizard once and burns 2/3 health... dude come the fuck on

[rocky lagoon]

I bought a ton of gold ingots + keys, the ingots didnt drop very much

[vapid arch]

gold ingots aren't really a gold sink anymore

[rocky lagoon]

sure they arent as space efficient but they're not that bad

[winged osprey]

This game is so frustrating, and not for reasons that should make it frustrating

[vapid arch]

they're not as valuable as they once were, they're not used as gold sinks so they won't crash like skull keys or bags

[rocky lagoon]

are keys actually worth using now since they're so cheap

[vapid arch]

probably not

[copper ivy]

is the rank display messes up for u guys as well?

cause I cant seem to see my rank progress

[tribal sleet]

P sure I'm not the first person to ask this but how do I fix the Unauthorized/Debugger program detected issue?

[acoustic prism]

@chrome copper yoo

[worn nova]

not getting hit by it is very easy to do

[floral girder]

heey, what's the best spot for the last goblin merchant's quest?

[ripe umbra]

Warlock nerf wen?

[worn nova]

only buff

[untold cove]

anyone know if the lich change is still in effect

[lunar harness]

Wtf has happened to barbarians? They're waaaay to OP

[cyan wing]

why the fk is there a map rotation, its so cringe having to wait

[rapid vapor]

Yes

[winged osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-funny-kid-meme-sour-make-face-gif-16610932

[worn nova]

its that simple

[sage rampart]

new warlock here! i dont seem to be healing when applying curse of pain... How does one self-heal?

[finite island]

You need Torture Mastery.

[regal creek]

is the lich ball meant to go through the wall and mobs sometimeS? 😺

[rocky lagoon]

yeah they messed it up

[rapid vapor]

Apparently it's supposed to go through walls but not mobs

[stuck sage]

add the zone back

[vapid arch]

no

[subtle heart]

guys can someone please help me with black screen when i boot up dark and darker please

[rustic hollow]

guys did they change something, lich homing projectile seems to go trough walls now?

[timid juniper]

How the f I hit fighter 6 times with rapier as a bard and he is still alive, while he 3 taps me, bard is strong

[stuck sage]

bro does not play anything but sub 25

[vapid arch]

got whatever the purple rank is but ok

[stuck sage]

good job you farmed treasures remove all maps but crypts remove zone playerbase is too split with all the different gear brackets and different queues

[rustic hollow]

guys did they change something, lich homing projectile seems to go trough walls now?

[vapid arch]

the game has over 20 thousand players, its fine with the current system
lobbies aren't dead for any queue

[slow totem]

servs fixed?

[stuck sage]

yeah theyre dead for hr crypts the main map and even geared normals they are dead

[vapid arch]

haven't played geared trios but i imagine its due to teams not liking the current state of the game
trios has always been the main mode with the most amount of players so i dont know why it would be dead otherwise

[dense fulcrum]

is shriek od wqeakness not op as fuck\

[vapid arch]

its pretty strong

[quick shuttle]

Does magic healing affect second wind? and if so does it affect it per tick or just overall healing. for instance if i have 10 mhealing and second wind would normally heal 50, how does that affect it?

[trim musk]

second wind heals a flat 40% of your max health so I'd assume it's not affected by any healing modifier

[quiet kite]

guy's does quest item gives AP in HR ? like treasure ?

[trim musk]

wdym item quest

[quiet kite]

like dog collar

[queen gate]

Yo is that storm planet

[quiet kite]

intact skull item like this

[stuck sage]

you can increase the amount it heals by getting buff duration

[brave geyser]

For high roller, should I be looting weapons, armor, or treasure more?

[trim musk]

the AP is calculated by per-slot and the rarity of the item, and more for treasure items/valuables

[brave geyser]

Oh. So I should just be looting the little treasure things then?

[vapid arch]

Loot as many 1x1 treasures as possible

[brave geyser]

Thanks!

[rocky lagoon]

anyone else being kicked from the game constantly

[steady valley]

cheapest madrinas bundle to get pouring out emote?

[rocky lagoon]

dang I was 1 game away from demi and now I get spawn rushed by teamers 4 games in a row

[formal lynx]

Bardiche meta happened

[drifting fossil]

what hr rank u gotta get to for the skin??

[sterile hill]

I'm a bit confused about how vig/str affects health. Wiki page states "20 Strength and 25 Vigor equates to 117.5 base Health using the graphs found at Max Health stat." but shouldn't it be 132,5?

Max health rating:20 * 0.25 + 25 * 0.75 = 23,75
Using the graph it shows: 75 + 10*3 + 13,75*2 = 132,5.
Am I missing something?

[fickle pebble]

was running duo fighter in HR goblin caves with a buddy of mine just now and wound up fighting in the goblin prison(the 3 floor one) against a Warlock/Ranger duo
I managed to trade with the warlock and it was down to my buddy vs the ranger, but he kept taking cover and was using a falchion+buckler(for some reason idk)
he got obscenely salty at the ranger when he died but he kept hiding in cover waiting for sprint to recharge

I lost like 2.5k from losing that kit, but I missed a lot of arrows and swings so im not mad

[timid juniper]

blue it's easy to get it

[signal osprey]

why the hell is there a gearscore requirement on highrollers???? what is the reasoning behind that and is it actually doing what its intened for?? can someone fill me in?

[wraith robin]

Cuz or rat unskilled abuser. lobby was fill with naked unskilled rat players

[fickle pebble]

anti-rat measures

[acoustic fog]

patch notes: to avoid rat gameplay. going in naked as a rogue or druid, and loot other peoples corpses while they were fighting on. if your team kills the target, you get a nearly instant loot, otherwise it's 12 seconds. Plus you can;t queue up for duo/trios anymore

[serene rivet]

It's meant to force people to have geared PVP interactions, gear rewards when killing other players, and reduce ratting. It's kind of worked but there are simple workarounds like dropping a bunch of green gear after getting in. Now people team more than ever because they don't want to regear.

[fickle pebble]

I just find it an immense hassle to get all that gear again when I die, im not sad I lost cool stuff, I'm annoyed that I have to now go get enough money for a kit again

[heady jewel]

can squire affinity please carry over

[serene rivet]

I enjoy the menuing of the game but not enough to regear/purchase the gear needed to do a ranked grind. It's too much downtime from active play.

[ashen light]

I think mainly just prevents more inexperienced players from playing bc either you team or get destroyed in pvp and chances are newer players are dying to mobs and pvp so there is no shot they can play high roller unless they are grinding for gold all day in normal to lose it in one game of hr

[fickle pebble]

yeah, exactly my point
I want to run high roller, but I can't until I get a kit together, which is a lot of menuing and grinding gold, and generally avoiding PVP, just ratting in <25 normals til I can get money

[tall drift]

nerf wizard >.<

[icy locust]

is it just me or anyone notice that the stiletto or rondel daggers been going thru peoples head with out taking damage?

[narrow sand]

anyone know where to find cobalt? I swear last time I played it was everywhere but now there's nothing but copper and iron every time I run the goblin caves

[fickle pebble]

it's in the middle of goblin caves exclusively

[trim musk]

center room of goblin caves, can sometimes spawn in the goblin mine

[acoustic fog]

if you have quest finished, you can buy blue gear from vendor, which is actually cheap. With a full blue gear you can enter HR and collect good loot for your next adventures. Started on my wizard a few days ago and I have 1 tab full of good purples, just visitiong Trader for rings or amulets.

[ashen light]

either in the goblin mine or the middle with the lift extract

[fickle pebble]

I'm pretty sure I'm still only getting greys off of every trader aside from a couple whites

[signal osprey]

why are they trying to force gameplay like that cuz nerds couldnt watch there bodies? all the geared people are still only playing normals anyway highroller is litterally just for cosmetics it doesnt make sense to me to try and force interactions

[trim musk]

gotta have a bunch of quests finished for the greens and blues

[acoustic fog]

if you play fighter focus on Armorer/weaponsmith questline, shop changes every 30 minutes, you can buy your longswords and plates dirt cheap

[signal osprey]

i have an idea maybe stop letting people take gear into normals and than highroller will be that geared mode again or better yet remove one of the gamemodes as having both of them has done nothing but cause issues that ironmace constantly trys to bandaid instead of just doing what they need to do which is blending hr/normals

thats one of the risks of having a dead body on the ground is that its lootable by anyone the devs shouldnt be trying to help anyone in that regard thats a personal resbonsibility thing not a devs can we have this instead thing

[ashen light]

or just have a gear based match making in hr like they do in normals so you can play around what you want if you wan thigh gear score pvp go ahead but dont force it upon all

[fickle pebble]

<25GS will become what everyone does to grind AP, then it'll be where people go to get ez player kills for AP, and geared people play normals cause no one's doing HR geared

[signal osprey]

sure but in the end its another bandaid that will def have its own set of problems. should be 1 game mode with startergear lobbies and armor lobbies

[lucid notch]

Do you get triple rewards if you are a rank in all solo duo and trios?

[signal osprey]

ap is for cosmetics tho it shouldnt be a good enough reason to make gameplay changes just for ap rates the whole ranked system is a dud from the start and itl continue to have stupid problems until they bite the bullet and make a better ranked system

[acoustic fog]

< 25 it's a dead zone. you can grind AP up to a point, where AP fee is higher than you earn. without gear it will take a long time to kill things

[signal osprey]

changes made to force gameplay/behavior is never well thought out or a good idea. if they want to change player behavior they need to change the incentives for that behavior not force anything

[fickle pebble]

yeah, I just keep getting hardlocked at their pvp quests cause I am AWFUL at PVP, a vast majority of the time when I win it's because the enemy made a lot of mistakes/misses
similar thing for the demon quests, I die repeatedly while trying to fight them simply because I am bad at dodging
I keep going cause there's no other way to improve but damn

[deep galleon]

{Barbarian}
Multiple Perks and Skills are Reworked:
-Carnage grants 25 armor rating for each enemy slain, up to 75 armor rating, but reduces that armor rating by that same amount each time you are hit by a physical attack.
-Crush now grants some one-handed weapons the ability to destroy chests.
-Iron Will grants 75 magic resistance while reducing knockback received by 50%.
-Two Hander grants 10% action speed bonus when swinging any two-handed weapon and adds the ability to use the Halberd, Spear and Crystal Sword weapons.
-Blood Exchange now grants 50% lifesteal proportionate to damage dealt rather than a flat 10% per tick of damage. It no longer reduces your maximum health, however, to compensate.
-War Sacrifice now grants 50 armor rating and magic resistance, as well as +5 all attributes bonus, for as long as the ability is active, but now consumes 1.5% HP per second the ability is active and 3 HP per attack.

{Wizard}
Multiple Perks, Skills and Spells are Reworked or Toned Down:
-Spell Overload now afflicts a -30% base magic damage penalty, but no longer reduces the spell capacity bonus.
-Staff Mastery now grants 30% SP proportionate to physical damage dealt by staff weapons, distributed flat across all spells.
-Meditation is changed to "Clarity of Mind", and can now be channeled while moving. This new skill grants the same effects, but reduces movement speed by 30% and you lose the ability to perform other actions until it's cancelled.
-Zap now deals 15 magical damage, 50% scaling.
-Ice Bolt now deals 20 magical damage, 50% scaling.
-Lightning Strike now deals 25 magical damage.
-Invisibility no longer produces afterimages, but reveals the silhouette of the moving target.
-Explosion no longer sticks to enemies, but rather draws them toward it with a suction effect. Damage is also now based on range from 50 epicenter magic damage to 10 far away splash magic damage.

[fallen shuttle]

I should not have to play a meta class to compete with this 106 movespeed barbs

[quaint heron]

does AI health scale for solo/duo/trios?

[acoustic fog]

I started on my pdr fighter, putting green/blue pieces on me to have a higher PDR and tanked mobs until I understood mechanics. Search on youtube, how to fight every mob. there are quite a few guides which explains mobs mechanics.
it's a tought world in the dungeons.
I struggle with bosses right now.

[fickle pebble]

I've seen guides on dodging mobs, I just need to get it into practice
like the zerker combo dodges, I've gotta make em work with longsword

[twilit glen]

tell me about it. my thing is ive been stuck on the lich for about a month now... makeing it there after surviving pvp with many casters as a meta while im a fighter, hoping its the right boss, then when it is, the ball goes through the enemies so i spend so much time tracking the ball through multiple times and run out of time to kill

that and the quest where you gotta interact with the horde... you know how many times ive killed the boss only to be ganked right at the end by an archer or SB fighter? 4 today thats for sure lol

[acoustic fog]

longsword it's beautiful to learn mobs. if you get into riposte, you can melt them. You can watch Sparkykawa on YT. he plays a lot of fighter

[amber sky]

yo what is a wipe i dont understand it somebody exp pls

[fickle pebble]

when the game resets everyone

[amber sky]

so all my shit in my entire stash gets deleted

[atomic flame]

yes

[fickle pebble]

yes, and you go back to level 1, and all quest completion goes back to nil, you do keep your fame

[acoustic fog]

yes, you keep your character fame.

[cursive ibex]

There is a chance skin like frost skeleton, nightmare skeleton... can be reobtained in the future ?

[static compass]

It was my own fault, but to the Barbarian werewolf that put a fire down for me and then charged up and dropped me with an axe when i sat down - thank you for opening my eyes - I won't trust anyone again haha

[fallen shuttle]

Stop adding new shit to balance and actually balance the game.

[jaunty topaz]

How about actually do something about all the cheaters, I swear every HR lobby has one

[delicate terrace]

since when can i find rings and amulets in chests? or is it specific ones? i even find on normal goblins.. blue rings lol

[chrome sorrel]

This is cope

[next kraken]

what classes are good to start out under 25 gear in solos/trios? thinking of playing warlock(drain/hydra) or cleric

[jaunty topaz]

Delulu
You wallbanging too or what dawg cuz everyone with a brain knows that the cheating problem is bad

[chrome sorrel]

I’ve been demigod for over a month now bro running high roller in 10k+ kits and I’ve never once felt that I died to a cheater this season idk what to say it’s cope

[noble zodiac]

in the center elevator room. Upstairs and down you can get like 21 i think

[jaunty topaz]

It's not cope lol there's so many clips on youtube on how bad the cheating problem is

Just because you haven't died to one doesn't mean they don't exist

Unless of course you have a good gamer chair too and are just trying to downplay the issue

[young fossil]

does slayer perk work on 2h swords as a warrior class does anyone know please ?

[jaunty topaz]

You need two separate weapons (one in each hand) to gain the benefits of Slayer

[random flame]

why do people spawn rush in below gear score 25 lobbies

[young fossil]

@jaunty topaz much thanks

[elder cave]

Pvp is something a lot of people like in a pvpve game

[jaunty topaz]

The loot in Normals is dogwater, Normals is pretty much only played for PvP

[random flame]

i don't think level 200s should be rushing spawns against people with no gear its not even a challenge

[elder cave]

unfortunately thats just how match making is in low population games. Some people also dont like the amount of clicks you have to do to put on a good kit so they just reque in squire gear

If it makes you feel any better, People will be spawn pushing you in every bracket/version of this game you que into.

[grim hull]

blame the quest design where you have to kill a certain ammount of players

[mossy viper]

back after a few months are the lich orbs bugged??

[gleaming pagoda]

Can we fix the fact that my gear score is less than a hundred but people come sprinting at me as soon as the game starts with a gear score of 500 decked out in epic or legendary gear

[elder cave]

i know it can feel like this, But this is not possible outside of very rare instances. If this happens to you consistently id recommend recording it, but for some reason people never seem to be able to put up the video

[tidal fjord]

why is teaming not bannable in this game

[gleaming pagoda]

most people dont know how to record but i can try

[dry moth]

why is everyone hating on bards ingame, they hunt them down on low gearscore lobbys

[stray yoke]

I’ve read all of your recent suggestions and think I would enjoy the game less if any of them were approved

[elder cave]

based and true

[naive schooner]

can i still get frost skele archer skin?

[vagrant gull]

hey does anyone know how the debuff you get in ice caverns works? Hovering over the icon doesnt tell you anything but the edges of my screen turn frosty and it feels like it slows me

[thick girder]

a friend and I are learning ghost king, what triggers his tp? we thought it was distance between players in the room and the boss but we're super close to the boss and eachother but he still TPs multiple times in a row

[thorny socket]

anyone else really hating the 225 gear score requirement in HR for AP farming? I don't get why I have to waste a decent amount of gold to go in with a decent kit to farm AP (most boring way to play). Even if I buy only like a few 2 handed uncommon weapons to get me over the gear score limit, I still run the chance of getting absolutely stomped by massively geared players

then if I lose all my money, I then have to grind gold to buy kits to then play boring AP farming

and then there's also the AP entrance fee, I just don't get what's fun about this to anyone who isn't insanely rich

[strong merlin]

"high roller" not grey gear rat around sim

[turbid pine]

what do you consider insanely rich

[thorny socket]

enough that even if you lose 5-6 kits, you're still chillin

[thorny socket]

But the game itself insentivized rat gameplay in HR, cause that's how you get the most AP. You don't get good amount of AP for killing other players, instead it's for collecting high quality treasure from chests/crates. They need to either lower the gear score requirement or the AP entrance fee. I'd prefer the latter.

i think it's the entrance fee specifically that's the problem, cause 600-700 at exemplar is actually insane. It makes it so you have to fill every single slot with treasure and to avoid players, which awards rat gameplay

if they just lower the entrance fee + award players with AP for killing other players, it'd kinda fix AP grinding and make it more fun and enjoyable

[turbid pine]

If AP ante increases with rank why doesn't GS ante?
let Neophytes need only bring in a few greens/blue
and leave the full BIS sets for the demigods
(ofc this would also mean matching people of the same rank together)

I think letting people get into HR for cheap to start with and then evenutally requiring 225 after you've gone up a league or two would make the mode WAY more attractive for people too scared/poor to even try HR

[thorny socket]

probably cause rank =/= how good you are at the game.

All rank measures is how good you collect treasure and how good you are at not dying to mobs and extracting

Plenty of mediocre players are farming AP for the skins only even while being kinda bad at the game (like me)

I'd agree with you tho if majority of the AP you got was from killing players

[turbid pine]

I think the perfect balance for PvP in HR is
"worth doing as it occurs, but a waste of time to actively seek out"
the gamemode doesn't need PvP 24/7, that's what Arena will fufill
at the same time having PvP be worth so little AP it just becomes a PvE farmer would be extremely boring

you could even make AP you get from kills go up as you increase in ranks (which would help balance out the increasing AP ante with each rank)
so timmies can get used to the nightmare mobs in neophyte/wanderer without worrying about getting jumped
before starting to fight each other in pathfinder+ as it becomes worth it to do

[thorny socket]

yea I agree, personally my solution would be:

• Lower AP ante
• Reward players with AP for PvP (maybe like 400-500 per player kill or smth like that or like you said make even that scale with rank)
• Make GS ante scale with Rank for HR in the new season (not now, cause system is different now)

[turbid pine]

While I do really like the cosmetic rewards for HR
it does feel like its the only reason to play the gamemode. I can make more money in norms lol

Imo they just need a more natural implentation of the mode into the gameplay loop, because way too many people didn't even try the mode until the shiny ranked rewards were already revealed.

[bright lake]

whats the best way to make gold rn besides killing players

[thorny socket]

farming troll/wyvern is my go to or at least used to be cause prices tanked for troll pelt

[turbid pine]

in order of best to worst

1. Wyvern and mining Froststone Ore
2. Double gob cave bossing and mining Gold Ore
3. Inferno bossing and mining Rubysilver Ore
4. One gob cave boss (ideally Troll over Cyclops)

[bright lake]

preciate it

[thorny socket]

also what class do you guys recommend me to use for AP farm, I'm trying rogue but im almost getting one shot in abyss, it's insane, even with 140 hp

[turbid pine]

I just used the same class I've been maining all wipe lol
can't really play another class with the way quests are rn...

[thorny socket]

Oh yeah don't lemme get started on quests, them being locked to each class is actually so dumb, what's even the point in that lol

[turbid pine]

I'm not fully confident I'll even be able to finish every quest before wipe ends
but I'm damn sure gonna try

[thorny socket]

I might try warlock for AP grind

[loud perch]

servers down?

[thorny socket]

don't think so?

[loud perch]

everytime i load the game it gets stuck on connecting and then says "Failed to connect to the server. Quit the game."

[thorny socket]

I'm not sure, never had that problem, maybe try a VPN? see if that works

[vapid frigate]

why is it more expensive to buy 3 potions instead of 1 3 times

[remote scaffold]

So now that I am in pathfinder 3 I can just wait till next month without touching my lock and get the Skeletal Champion skin?

[cinder mesa]

so i am trying to complete the quest for the surgeon called "Silent entry" where i need to interact with a golden chest. I am having great troubles trying to figure this one out and even seached online and found little to no information on this quest. Anyone know how to complete

[turbid pine]

have you never seen a Golden chest and that's what you're confused on?
or do you not know what counts as "interacting" with them. You need to open them, which means using Lockpicks.

[cinder mesa]

Okay thank you! makes since I have been looting the ones that werent locked which is probably the reason being for lack of completion lol. Thanks again

[turbid pine]

if you thought it was a Golden chest and it wasn't locked, it was in reality probably a Lion's chest (or even a Marvelous)
Golden chests are ALWAYS locked

[gray verge]

Speaking of lockpicks; in crypts what is the purpose of the locked jail door in hall D? Looks like bait to waste a lockpick??

[zenith crater]

does these game servers just suck or does my internet suck? i am connected to ethernet yet still rubber band every step i take

[cinder mesa]

Perfect. That was the information I was looking for! appreciate your help

[turbid pine]

You know, some classes effectively have infinite lockpicks
Rogue, Bard, etc. (....idk if there's a 3rd acutally)

[wanton otter]

Nerf Door interaction speed so we can stop showering ourselves in constantly slamming them shut over and over and over. Peak gameplay.

[vocal bramble]

warlock is the easiest class for demi, rogue is like playing dark souls until you learn all pve attack animations and how to dodge them. I have a ice abyss ap guide for rogue if you plan on sticking it out but warlock will save your sanity

[wanton cairn]

Can someone explain to me warlocks? they keep getting me, it seems they cast cast cast and never have to recharge or something? I'm spectating one and he has casted curse of pain probably 30 plus times. Hows it "regen"

[wanton otter]

costs hp and TM warlocks regen off curse of pain so it's an infinite loop for them.

[vocal bramble]

how to kill warlocks in general or how to kill them as a rogue?

[brazen berry]

Can't seem to find consistent information on rubysilver ore spawning locations. Some say only in inferno, some say only in the HR crypts. Can anyone tell me what modules the ore locations spawn?

[turbid pine]

Warlock has no spell spots and instead expends health as a cost for every spell.
Warlock can heal in four ways--meleeing with "Shadow Touch" perk, meeling in Demon Form, channeling Lifedrain, and (most importantly to the kiting playstyle) off Curse of Pain with the "Torture Mastery" perk.
With enough +Magical Healing from equipment, each Curse of Pain evenutally becomes a net increase in hp instead of decrease.

[wanton cairn]

yeah just got kitted for awhile and kept getting hit with curse of pain

[wanton otter]

I enjoy Drain because it scales off damage and the Vampirism perk exclusively. I don't have to spec mag healing and the rest of my spells smash.

[obtuse mirage]

Isn't drain completely unusable now?

[rotund pawn]

Yea an average set only heals like 30-40 whereas before the same set would heal like 80 also bandages are faster and heal almost as much with the higher rarity

[plush summit]

are the servers bad rn?

[dense fulcrum]

anyone in a game with 3757140 he is cheating just exit the lobby as fast as possible

[steep oyster]

game dead? can't get any 25-125 lobby with more than 3 teams

[dusk sleet]

STOP THE CHINESE INVASION ON AUSSIE SERVERS

[exotic flax]

Make curse of pain do less damage on hit, make its duration longer, buff the healing of tm a bit but make the dot only be able to be active on one target at a time. Make tm heal less on boss enemies

[turbid pine]

I wouldn't mind TM healing exclusively on players tbh
they still have lifedrain hydra, shadow touch, or y'know med like everyone else. They don't need infinite hp from PvE.

[exotic flax]

Make wyvern stomp attack to be much slower so that melee classes can dodge it from being in melee range- so that we don't have to wait till it decides to stomp to attack ever

[turbid pine]

Yeah wyvern def need some changes to be more possible on melee

[exotic flax]

Imagine if cyclops slam or troll club attack was instant- the entire fight would revolve around either ranged spam or waiting until they decide to use the ability before going in, would be extremely lame. That's what the wyvern is right now

[grim zephyr]

is legendary status worth it?

[rotund pawn]

Life steal is dead and worthless to run if you have tm on I do like some of your ideas but no one in their right mind would use hydrain with tm way to many spell slots to do that

[turbid pine]

I'd like to shift warlock shift more towards his big spells anyway
give him more base knowledge and a lower a different stat to compensate
He's supposed to be a caster but he never uses more than the same 1-3 spells over and over lol

[drowsy iris]

How do I lower the wendigo in the lower-left corner of the map?

[solid dew]

Yes for the shared stash alone

[turbid pine]

I think making Longsword require a perk slot would be a nice step towards making Warlock more of a primary caster
Ranger has to take a perk to use Spears, and that's a much weaker weapon than Longsword imo
(the -cast speed from Demon Armor NEEDS to go though)

[rotund pawn]

Bro I agree I used to play the class it’s extremely boring not having a lot of good spells like I said I like your ideas

[exotic flax]

Give rogue lockpicking perk +resourcefulness/item interaction speed

Make barbarian crush give interaction speed only for the purpose of mining ores-
Hell, id be fine with reworking ores specifically to scale adaptively towards either your resourcefulness or strength stat, whichever is the highest.

Doesn't make sense that a skinny rogue mines faster than a buff Chad

[inner beacon]

Best way to get Skull Tokens? Literally just run around and prayge for small coffer spawns or what?

[turbid pine]

If you specifically want to farm them, go to Pyramid in Ice Cavern
it has a lot of chests so there's a high chance of atleast one Coffer spawning
then you can go and take the first boat to extract and repeat

but really, it's just a passive grind. focus on other things and you'll acquire them naturally over a long enough period of time.

[vocal fractal]

can goblin merchant give named items??

[manic haven]

Just tried lich and found that the purple ball was going through skeleton shields and skeletons. Is there some nuance I'm missing or did we just get some desync?

[turbid pine]

No, but the Reward Tokens can.
(afaik anyway)

[rich needle]

if I do the skeleton quests on 1 character will the emote transfer to all?

[vocal fractal]

ayy thank you

[turbid pine]

Yes, getting the emote on one character is enough to use it on all of them. Every cosmetic in this game is account-wide.

[crude prawn]

So i think i was muted in game chat, i dont even curse or anything. imagine getting muted for RP'ing lol

[leaden gulch]

I see guilds are not a thing, is there a place to find cool people?

rando peopl are fine, just didnt know if there are guilds and stuff

[lethal willow]

what kind of hitbox this are https://streamable.com/dotg3n

[leaden gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/this-much-open-arms-linus-tech-tips-ltt-wide-arms-gif-25216294

[lethal willow]

this spear is so op

wide ahh hitbox

[rich relic]

I swore they updated on Thursday, am I trippin

[cursive ibex]

What is the best class in trio

[turbid pine]

depends on the other 2 classes you're running with
but Bard and Cleric are good for any comp

[feral rain]

PLAY MORE BARDS I NEED TO KILL THEM FOR QUESTS

[buoyant gorge]

just lost 5k kit to a random fucking hole in the corner of a room in frost mountain. i get that the brutality is something people like but this just seems stupid to me. dying to the "void" in a game with no fall damage, because of a hidden little hole with no indication of it being there? i know im complaining but this just seems pointless and not fun for anyone

[late pewter]

Where are the most skilled players found? 125+ Normal or High Roller?( for Solos )

[remote shadow]

i want old ruins back

[sand zenith]

I find a lot of high gear pvp in HR.

[pulsar ferry]

why is the spellbook available for fighter in squire

[gloomy scaffold]

Hey guys high roller has no gear caps right?

[turbid pine]

Probably because it was easier for them to code to just include everything for Weapon Mastery

[pulsar ferry]

does it actually include everything ?

[sand zenith]

Brackets, no.

[turbid pine]

every weapon? I would assume so if it includes fuckin Spellbook
I haven't touched Fighter myself

[gloomy scaffold]

cool TY for confirm

[hard rock]

This game is ass I'm done. Keep dying to magic as a ranger

[slate ore]

why is wizard so broken

[plush quarry]

plz

[fresh orbit]

man i cant delete my wizard character even though the name i enter is the exact same

[solid dew]

Does HR matchmake based off rank or does it throw everyone into one mix?

[pliant umbra]

wtf, I was just on the bottom right module of inferno2 and the portal never appeared

[trim musk]

There's a bug where portals just legit don't even spawn, it's only ever happened to me twice but it seems to still happen at random

[pliant umbra]

at least I didn't have a hoof on me

[trim musk]

yeah I had a rough time getting one for the quest too

[nova bronze]

Yes, terribly so.

[misty stirrup]

When you kill and loot someone in HR, does their gear give you AP? Or does "Handled" stuff not give AP?

[trim musk]

Handled stuff does not grant AP to my knowledge

[pliant umbra]

orby is a helpful dude

[earnest cliff]

yes 100%

[trim musk]

🤝

[misty stirrup]

The wiki says

Craftable items can now be looted as of Patch:6.4#Hotfix 46 as killed player's gear are converted to Looted.
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Adventure_Rank
but I was watching a youtube clip from yesterday that shows someone looting a player they killed and their gear being Handled. So maybe they changed it in the past and then changed it back. Idk. Seems kinda dumb if you have to choose between your kill's loot (which is potentially worth a lot) or getting AP.

[trim musk]

Treasure will always be worth more than kill loot, unfortunately, so it's generally a good idea to loot and leave to just reset and go for treasure AP the next time

[trim musk]

Oh and yeah I completely forgot about that change, they did convert it, but the treasure AP will always outweigh gear AP

[tardy temple]

does dagger mastery work when off handing a dagger. like does my rapier benefit?

[trim musk]

Dagger mastery effects dagger-type weapons, just like sword mastery wouldn't apply to a dagger in the off-hand

[rustic laurel]

good to know other people are having fun in this game even if you aren't

[cosmic moon]

best class rn?

[trim musk]

depends on who you ask

[earnest cliff]

falchion is so damn hard to block

[rich needle]

was loading in to a trios game and it crashed me and put my teammates in a duo trio situation and now my game is glitched

[jolly sequoia]

anyone know what the skelly champ reward is for PF?

[turbid pine]

wdym
it's a player skin. a race

if you mean the stats, we won't know until next season comes out.

[civic fox]

any body getting a video memory error?

[subtle mauve]

Is ap for event token counting how many you have in a stack or just per slot?

[jolly sequoia]

yeah thats what i meant lol... it doesnt say what it is ig

[turbid pine]

yea it's just past precedent
pathfinder = player skin

[jolly sequoia]

ah got ya thx

[delicate rock]

I asked this in general chat, but it looks like the chat moved on sadly so I figured I'd ask here. I have the download version from many moons ago, but fell off of playing for a while. Is there any way I can link the old account I had from the download new updates from the torrent era to the new F2P account? I'd like to not pay for the same game twice.

[late fog]

does luck affect bone drops from skeletons?

[tulip kindle]

when are they adding the market bottom buy option to just rebuy your kit instantly buying into the bottom of the list for the cheapest price on your pre selected kit items? they have this for the stock market and NFTs. biggest issue with this game is the downtime between matches. especially if you die, but even when you dont as well(merching and market listing loot)

also how come i have to go to the market to see what something is selling for instead of it just telling me what the bottom price is of this item?

[wheat summit]

anyone who plays barb and spawn rushes in sub 25 is just shit at the game, you cant change my mind

[stray yoke]

anyone who plays in sub 25 is just shit at the game, you can’t change my mind

[wheat summit]

if youre just trying to do the quests that are "survive x times in x dungeon" why wouldn't you...

[stray yoke]

Hey I’m just trying to ruffle some feathers over here, high roller or riot

[wheat summit]

ah so you're just a troll then.

[stray yoke]

I mean I still agree with my statement, sub 125 is arguably easier than lowkey smurfing in sub 25s

I don’t know anyone other than experienced players that would be sitting in pre-25s, inexperienced players wouldn’t know about the matchmaking gearscore lock so they’d just bring in basic >25 gear after their first run

[maiden bough]

i hate how barbarian takes Zero brain power. 150+ hp at minimum and just W key with rage and achiles strike. How is such a brainless class in this game

[undone panther]

how to get stuff as beginner

this game is too hard

[earnest mist]

this move speed meta is the worst its ever been

[wheat summit]

probably just watch some guides, they'll probably have more condensed and more helpful information than you'll get from this discord server

[potent raptor]

Add quiver slots please...

[wheat summit]

devs only play druid and warlock so its never gonna happen

[jagged yarrow]

Anyone know the chances of a yeti tooth at 101 luck?

ayo?

[misty stirrup]

it's 9%. you can see these kinds of things on the monster's wiki page https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Yeti
above the "luck effect" graph, there's some buttons for different types of drops. you'll want to select the quest one so that yeti tooth shows up in the drop table. and then on the right side there should be buttons for different luck amounts. you cant choose 101 specifically, but there's 100 so close enough.

[dusk sleet]

glad im not the only one feeling it

[hybrid girder]

never met more fake fucking people in any game than this

everyone fake surrenders in HR then kills you behind your back cause all you guys cant fight you need to play like pussys

[ivory cape]

Are there 2 or 3 permanent cosmetics? Goblin gives a dance, tavern master gives mummy skin, is there a third? If so what merchant and what reward please ❤️

[past edge]

Collector gives bone campfire.

[turbid pine]

4 now.
Collector gives a campfire skin and Skeleton gives a lobby emote

[ivory cape]

Bone campfire eh? Is there a preview of it somewhere or no

[turbid pine]

I've dm'd you an image of it

[ivory cape]

Terrible fomo going to have me spending 16h a day to do these quests. Tytyty.

[wheat ferry]

Do any of the dungeons spawn more of the skull token coffers than others or is it pretty even?

[jagged yarrow]

yeah I managed to get to 150 in under 124 gs so I'm running that with a luck potion

[tight dove]

nerf wizard

[ivory cape]

Wiz gets victimized by Rangers barbs rogues, it's just rock paper scissors 😉

[flat cave]

Does anyone know if there are any emotes as quest rewards besides the goblin dance from the goblin merchant quest

[slow bobcat]

Is there anyway to see the name of someone who had killed me after having left the lobby?

[jagged yarrow]

died with my luck kit, rip in pasta

[raven shore]

so is the demi reward just gonna be for holding a heart cause i dunno if this grind is worth my sanity honestly

[jagged yarrow]

the yeti tooth is a worse grind, quests like this that rely on rng need to be either a guarantee after x number of kills or have their spawn rates greatly increased if you're in HR

Same with the rare crystal ball x3, abysmal quest

[raven shore]

factual statement spent over a week straight locked out by crystal balls

[still cliff]

whats best charcter to use

[trim musk]

never found a single one, started playing HR for the first time, found all three (and another three for my brother) within a day

[spare elbow]

i only found 2/3 after playing to voyager 1 in hr...

[trim musk]

case in point

[wheat ferry]

The skeleton quest reward is a lobby emote I believe

[trim musk]

It's a cute little cake lobby emote

[crystal lynx]

guys which inferno boss is hardest

[raven shore]

warlord all day

[wheat ferry]

I need 36 more silver tokens

[trim musk]

My advice would be to farm mobs as they usually have them, afaik all containers can spawn a couple, the small coffers have a high chance of spawning them too

[raven shore]

i need barbarian to not feel like grinding my dong against rusty metal

[wheat ferry]

Aw I like barbarian

[bronze aurora]

Can anyone help me with fighting the lich

[raven shore]

its my main but honestly going against so many warlocks and fighters is making me wanna rip my hair out.

[crystal lynx]

is lich the middle or the easiest 🤔 gotta do him for the tavern master cosmetic

[wheat ferry]

I main druid so I feel your pain

[raven shore]

hands down easiest all day

[crystal lynx]

okok its pretty much just kite skellies and orbs right?

[ocean gale]

walk in circle, spam projectiles. Job done

[crystal lynx]

oh so its even easier for a ranger? cause thats my main

[ocean gale]

Ranger big EZ. just take in a shiiiit ton of arrows/bolts

[raven shore]

yeh but bring boocoo arrows

[crystal lynx]

full inventory of arrows got it

[shut kite]

would be interesting if they added a sling and rocks to the game for clerics and druids ranged- low damage, slow to shoot but better than nothing

[ocean gale]

only meme is, if you hit a lot of limbs shots/low damage shots the arrows can eat his drops

[raven shore]

honestly sling for barb would be great seeing as every other class gets range that isnt a franny

[turbid pine]

not true
the inventory just increases to accommodate space for both
you need an ungodly amount of arrows to see it take effect anyway. realistically it's just not going to happen

[exotic flax]

Suggested game changes
Rogue: Give the lockpick perk some additional interaction speed/resourcefulness
make the smoke pot skill 1 use rechargable with campfire

Warlock: Buff TM healing, reduce the damage curse of pain does on hit but increase the duration of the effect, but also make the dot effect only effect one target at a time
Then make TM heal significantly less vs boss mobs

Barbarian: make crush give bonus mining speed

fighter: make shield bash an active animation similar to rogue backflip, a shove directly forward with your shield, can be sidestepped with enough ms but has decent forward momentum and knocks back, can be used with any shield but since you cant angle the shield during the animation, pavise would benefit from also covering the head during the animation- additionally, 1 of 2 things should probably be true: It should do dmg based on the ar of the shield, OR it should ignore limb specific damage and always deal dmg with a 1x modifier as you will always be hitting limbs with it

wizard: make the lock spell also unlock, make doors you lock with the spell lock for longer but also make it take longer to restore the spell

General: Make wyverns stomp attack reactable from melee range similar to Cyclops stomp and Troll's 2handed club slam, so that melee classes can engage with the boss without having to wait for it to rng use the attack as if you go in before it uses it, it using it WILL kill you.

add more doors within room segments that can be locked as "shortcut" or "convinience" paths to allow classes like rogue or bard to have a niche use unlocking alternate paths, similar to how rats can explore more areas.

[turbid pine]

Imo unlock should be a seperate spell, getting the utility of both for one slot sounds a bit strong
Bards being able to magically open locked chests before Wizards is truly ridiculous though

[raven shore]

give barb a friggin sling plz man ;-; im dying here

[crystal lynx]

give ranger a glock

[raven shore]

give ranger a nuke at this point tbh mid class tbh

[exotic flax]

wizard is about to have a lot of its spotlight taken by the new sorcerer class, might even get some spells removed from wizard, where as wizard is intended to be more utility focused, I feel unlocking things is a great utility

Also unlocking things is just that- utility. lockpicks are extremely easy to stock up on, but you'd still never use a lockpick on like, for example the "center altar" room in crypts has a gate that can be locked, I think that gate is so fun in concept because it being occasionally locked/unlocked changes the dynamic and playable area of the segment dramatically, and being able to unlock it would change a lot

and I think more rooms should have that kind of gate

[crystal lynx]

yeah i just got one shot by lightsaber wizard 🙂

[turbid pine]

yeah Wizard def needs more utility. Having unlock is something he should def have in addition to his current lock spell
I just don't think they should be on the same spell

[exotic flax]

I think the reason it should be the same spell is that it makes sense. you cast the spell on things that are locked to unlock them, and you cast it on things that aren't locked to temporarily lock them, if you seperated them nobody would use them- hell if you put the spells together into 1 people still wouldnt use it, nobody uses bards "unchained harmony" spell despite it being REALLY good for both fleeing and chasing

[turbid pine]

Also Earthquake for Wizard make it happpen
That shit has zero business being a Cleric spell that's just straight up Evocation

[crystal lynx]

lmao this guy thinks he's being slick with his map hacks in this game. its totally the normal play to beeline after killing me straight to cabin module and leap straight into the water right at another player clearing mobs underwater and under the main building without ever checking any other room in the map

[exotic flax]

The only two benefits imo of the rogue's lockpicking perk is that 1: you can open misc doors with it you wouldnt waste a lockpick on
and 2: in rooms with a ton of traps you can turn off all the lights in the room and still be able to see the traps and navigate around them, making it your playground in complete darkness

I think that this perk specifically should be given some interaction speed, I think that then it would be in a perfect spot

im tired of hide, I never run it- I want a world where rogue can be utility/damage and not just damage landmine

we are so close- cutthroat is a very good anti mage spell and not taking hide means you have enough perk slots to go thinks like

jokester, dagger mastery, double jump, poisoned weapons

but Id love to be able to justify slotting lockpicking in there, just give it a tiny bit more of a reason, like +10% interaction speed or +3 resourcefullness idk bro

[faint sparrow]

classes that take no skill
rouge
wizard
warlock

[shut kite]

you mean barbarian and fighter

[faint sparrow]

how is barb broken?

[exotic flax]

rogue takes a lot of skill if you aren't using hide. the spacing you have to do in melee tussles is wild

also wizard while annoying, has a very high skillcap, probs the highest in the game rn, good wizards show

warlock takes no skill.

[faint sparrow]

key ward “if” when <90% of people use hide

wizard had high skill cap? lmao???
how does wizard have a high skill cap

[turbid pine]

The number will likely be adjusted over time, but I really doubt any possibility of its complete removal

[crystal lynx]

I think the GS requirement is good, but if they make player kills give more AP it'll probably be in a decent spot overall

[trim musk]

kills aren't worth a rats ass rn its so lame

[crystal lynx]

yeah. I can see them upping AP on kills, but also making it so you don't get turbo cooked if you die in PVP? if that makes sense, that way there's two ways to play HR and both are rewarding

[exotic flax]

Wizard has the highest skillcap in the game rn imo

Look at the top players in every other class and then look at top wizard players, its a different world

[trim musk]

PVP rn kinda bites cheeks considering every human on the planet is going for the HR rewards since they were announced